January 9th, 2010

Mandelson and Darling Outflanking
Balls, Brown, Cameron and Osborne

Darling has to be given some credit for stating what should be axiomatic “Many departments will have less money in the next few years.. [The cuts] are utterly totally non-negotiable.’ £57 billion in cuts is going to mean that “the next spending review will be the toughest we have had for 20 years”. For months now the kamikaze economics advocated by Balls and Brown has been terrifying, they seemed set on destroying the economy to advance their factional interest over the national interest.  Will Balls and Brown stick to the Mandelson-Darling line?

Peter Mandelson’s speech on Wednesday was overshadowed by events, parts of it sounded more right-wing than anything Cameron has said in years:

The 1980s saw the timely privatization of industries that were long overdue for return to the commercial sector. Industrial relations underwent a sea change. The quality of management in our best firms improved, and with it, corporate profitability.

First and foremost we need to foster a new climate for enterprise in Britain. There is no substitute for this – no substitute for the drive and ambition that it brings … it is the single most important engine of economic progress. The recovery cannot be driven by consumer debt or public spending. It will be driven by private sector investment and private enterprise.

Enterprise and reward go hand in hand. Much as it shocked many of my friends when I said I was comfortable with people making themselves “filthy rich”, in the context I was speaking I was simply stating a simple truth: that enterprise and effort should be rewarded. It sets goals to spur people and brings gains to us all … there is never a case for punitive taxation. There is never a case for rates of tax that remove the incentive to self-improvement or to build a business.

Mandelson sounded positively Thatcherite. Can you imagine Cameron delivering a speech written by Steve Hilton which sounded like that? Cameron’s opening speech of the year promised a new high-speed rail network and the creation of 100,000 apprenticeships. Dave sounded more like Gordon Brown than Maggie.


307 Comments

  1. 1
    Cromwell says:

    “Dave sounded more like Gordon Brown than Maggie”

    No he didn’t you thick mick cock.

    • 3
      Spartacus says:

      err……. yes he did.
      Guido spot on as usual.

      • 25
        Dame Peter Manmybum says:

        Do micks have thick cocks? I’m interested.

        • 150
          Iris Robinson says:

          So am I! Hello boys!

          • 19 year boy says:

            Here’s to you Mrs Robinson.

          • UDA Pimp says:

            That’ll be five thousand pounds.

          • Lord Mandelscum and his amazing disappearing moustache says:

            Much as it shocked many of my friends when I said I was comfortable with people making themselves “filthy rich”

            In much the same way people would be shocked if Hannibal Lecter said he wasn’t a vegetarian

            And everyone thought he spent his days sucking up to Millionaires in the City and Billionaires on yachts to further the interests of street sweepers and shipbuilder’s unions

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            Sinn Fein loves you more than you will know.

      • 33
        cogitodexter says:

        I wonder… is Mandelson laying the groundwork to cross over to the Tories after they win the election?

        I wouldn’t put it past the old schemer to do such a thing to keep his career alive for as long as possible…

        http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com

        • 48
          Mr Ned says:

          Mandy has already said that he would happily work in a Tory Government.

          The labour party tries to pretend that they are united, yet we have Mandy preaching outright Thatcherism whilst Brown is still engaged in a ‘hate the wealthy’ style socialist class warfare.

          Broad church? Insane Asylum more like!

          They are a complete mess.

          • PM says:

            Yep, guaranteed he’ll switch over when the Conservatives win.

          • Meanwhile, David Tennent, who has been rewarded very richly by the BBC is standing by Brown

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8449895.stm

          • Rotten to the core says:

            I hope that this new realism from Darling and Mandelson erodes the Labour core vote.With a little luck Labour will disappear from public life and a new opposition can form.I long for the total and final ruination of Labour.

          • dead gorgeous and loving it says:

            “Meanwhile, David Tennent, who has been rewarded very richly by the BBC is standing by Brown.”

            He’s a fucking Jock, so ignore it.

          • Fried Bread Spread With Marge n ten embassy regal says:

            Another jock who ditches his accent to sound english to appeal to the english, is a turncoat traitor in my opinion.

            They can take our accent, but they can never take our freedom

          • Down with Brown! says:

            David Tennant has gone from Dr Who to Dr Hoon.

          • Fuck off back to Scotland McMong says:

            Who wants that little fag in the Tory party?

          • Jan says:

            O/T David Tennant appeared on Who Do You Think You Are some three years ago. Being a leftie Nu-Liebor jock he was really really shocked and disgusted when he found out that he had family who had been in the Orange Order in Ulster. Not only members but actually high up in the order, some Grand master blah,blah,blah .I remember a pupil I was supporting at the time was completing his coursework on Northern Ireland.He came running in to see me the day after the programme .He couldn’t stop laughing at Tennant’s obvious shock and embarrassment at having ancestors on the wrong ‘side’. I thought Tennant acted like a prick on the programme.I think he is a smug little git,he is sooooo full of himself. His ancestors wouldn’t go down well with Nu-Liebor would they as NL are all for the Catholic, green white and gold mafia in Glasgow.

          • Anonymous says:

            Please help me on this one, David Tennant is an actor and I am a Building Surveyor. Does he have a better intellectual insight in to the politics of this country than me? How many votes does Mr. Tennant have? Is his job of more value to society than mine?

            Why do we have to treat the opinions of “celebrities” as being “more relevant” than anyone else’s. Have the BBC put the views of Sid and Doris Bonkers on their website?

          • Allan@Aberdeen says:

            They’re not a mess: they are one and the same. There is no discernable difference of substance between Blair/Brown’s Labour and Cast Iron Dave’s Cons and the absorption of the UK into the EU will continue under Dave. The Cons were even going to keep the same squandering plans as Labour until the Crunch.

          • Fried Bread Spread With Marge n ten embassy regal says:

            Tennent is “the’ actor of the day, he is the politicized face of the entertainment industry, the beau de jour.

            The BBC’s labour political wing, have been building his star steadily for some time, and they have timed his departure as Doctor Who to perfection, to thrust him to into the public limelight and smack into Joe Publics face in an election year, endorsing his Jock-Dwarf mate Gordon Brown.

            Expect his grinning cheesy face to pop on the TV everyday now between now and election night, and in contrived outfits that give a nod to the Doctor Who, (everyones favorite timelord). He will sing Brown’s praises like a fag at a Barbara Streisand concert, he will suck him like a new dyson vacuum cleaner in prisoners wing. Until we are brainwashed with the Doctor Who votes for Gordon crap.

            I’m sick to be Scottish, and that isn’t mae diet laddie!

        • 137
          Service rendered says:

          The only place Mandelson should be crossing is straight into HM Prison to serve his sentence for mortgage fraud and accepting bungs from oligarchs.

      • 108
        Cheese Lover says:

        Cameron’s speech was written by an intern.

        • 197
          Lazarus says:

          Another young girl from Neath
          who circumcised men with her teeth
          it wasn’t for money
          or anything funny
          but that little bit of cheese underneath

          • Lord Fondlebum says:

            Oh dear, I was just tucking into a bit of ripe stilton when I read that.

            Mindst, it did bring back some fond memories…..

      • 255
        He's Spartacus says:

        No he didn’t. But he is no different from Brown – that’s for sure. We need a Ronald Reagan. From his inaugural..

        “We are a nation that has a government—not the other way around. And this makes us special among the nations of the Earth. Our Government has no power except that granted it by the people. It is time to check and reverse the growth of government which shows signs of having grown beyond the consent of the governed.

        It is my intention to curb the size and influence of the Federal establishment and to demand recognition of the distinction between the powers granted to the Federal Government and those reserved to the States or to the people. All of us need to be reminded that the Federal Government did not create the States; the States created the Federal Government.

        Now, so there will be no misunderstanding, it is not my intention to do away with government. It is, rather, to make it work—work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it.

        If we look to the answer as to why, for so many years, we achieved so much, prospered as no other people on Earth, it was because here, in this land, we unleashed the energy and individual genius of man to a greater extent than has ever been done before. Freedom and the dignity of the individual have been more available and assured here than in any other place on Earth. The price for this freedom at times has been high, but we have never been unwilling to pay that price. ”

        Regards,

        Tom

        • 297
          Leading beyond authority says:

          All very well Tom, but you know as well as me that Cameron won’t do that, nor will Clegg.

          And if any politician did happen to come along who might,

          Common Purpose

          is so well entrenched across the whole of the public sector in the UK that there is no chance of reform. The UK is well and truly stuffed thanks to Blair, Prescott, Brown and Mandelson. And Julia Middleton.

    • 11
      UKIP says:

      er second, third and fourth that. Brown is right about one thing and one thing only; Cameroooooon is a PR man

      • 34
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Agreed. Empty vessels make the most noise.

      • 192

        Face it, if Cameron wins the next election you’ll get three terms of more New Labour policies. That will mean that any chance of getting out of the EU will be dead for a decade or more. Conversely, if Brown wins, he’ll win a hung parliament and won’t be able to do anything, and there will be an election a year later. But Cameron will be politically dead. Cameron will be replaced by a real Conservative who will win a landslide in the 2011 election. Prime Minister Hannan will make sure that we get out of the EU and the recovery will start immediately.

        It may sound unpalatable but a Brown victor at the General Election is the best case because it is only that way that we will get a real Conservative administration – you’ll just have to wait another yearto get it.

        • 210
          Golden Days says:

          The Hitchens position, which once irritated me, but is now beginning to make sense.
          But can we wait for the catastrophe that Brown will bring upon us? If only the Tories had not fallen for one polished, bravura performance when selecting Cameron. Scared witless at the thought of permanent opposition, they saw their own Blair-figure in front of them and plumped for it.
          Well, I expect it will work electorally, but will it bring Conservatism any closer?

          • Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

            Real alternative

            Why – if the voting patterns led to a hung parliament – would the country then suddenly swing to a more traditional conservative a few months later?

          • udderly 'orrible says:

            As the IMF would be in the front door 48 hours after McSnoteater’s re-election , the answer is YES.

            Let him face the music for the disaster which he and his Marxist mob have wrought.

            Can just see him now on the JugEars show: “We are, as you know Andrew, slashing spending by 75% across every department and blocking all state sector pensions, as the IMF has ordered and, actually, because its the right thing to do.”

          • Greychatter says:

            If Labour wins the next election Gordon Brown says he will serve a full 4 year term. Narcissists will never let go.

            Vote Conservative for goodness sake, first time you get a chance!! It is the only chance this country will get to clear the Socialist scourge from Britain.

            Some of us have worked through THREE Disasterous Labour Governments, David Cameron is the only chance you will get to reveres that experience for furture generations.

    • 19
      Mr Ned says:

      Yes he did. The reason that Cameron has failed to capitalise on the utterly incomprehensibly bad Labour clusterfuck is that he increasingly looks like more of the same.

      When you can take speeches by labour and tory, and looking at the text, you cannot tell the parties apart, that tells you all you need to know.

      THEY ARE THE FUCKING SAME!!!

      It is only in the delusional and heavily conditioned heads of their ripped off supporters that any difference exists. The top of both parties are the same and want the same things.

      If you really want change, vote UKIP, because tory and labour are the fucking same thing!

      • 167
        random idiot says:

        “It is only in the delusional and heavily conditioned heads of their ripped off supporters that any difference exists. The top of both parties are the same and want the same things.”

        Bang on the money, Mr. Ned. There hasn’t been a committed idealist at the top since Thatcher. The rest are just power-mad pragmatists, following in her wake. And the British public continue to lend them their vote, time and time again, because whether they like it or not, know it or not, they’re Thatcherites too.

    • 21
      Wet Wet Wet says:

      it sounded more right-wing than anything Cameron has said in years:

      Has liberal socialist Dave ever said “anything that is right wing?

      • 51
        Mr Ned says:

        He is far too scared of the BBC to risk doing anything like that. Or at least, that is his excuse.

        • 91
          Dick Scratcher says:

          Fuck the BBC. People vote every day when they buy their newspaper. Largest circ = The Sun; fastest growing = Daily Mail. Snooty should understand this & adapt, but he won’t. Knob.

        • 144
          Find out says:

          We’ll find out tomorrow, Cameron’s due to appear on Andrew Marr show (10 Jan).

          • Anonymous says:

            i hope he is better than gordons pathtic effott last week,

          • Give Me A Reason To Vote Tory says:

            PLEASE, Dave – no more hoodies, polar bears, bicycle clips or windmills.

            Let’s have some POLICIES!!

      • 176
        Brown Hater says:

        He needs to get elected first, without frightening the horses. The paranoid leftie-luvvie MSM would crucify any attempt at a “return the Thatcherism” and the sheeple would go for it like a liberal with a rent-boy!!

        • 195

          “without frightening the horses”

          Bollocks. He’s a coward and a leftie. Maggie didn’t care about the fucking horses, she knew that she was right. Cast-iron is pathetic.

          • Golden Days says:

            Remember, he’s a product of the years of Blairist catch-all policies, when the mere mention of Maggie would likely lead to a revolver and a finger pointing at the library.
            May be he’ll turn into the savage, Right-wing toff that Brown tries to frighten the sheeple with: the only thing that Brown ever got right.

          • Brown Hater says:

            Vote Labour then!

        • 231

          Brown Hater: agreed – his current positioning could be that or merely the regrettable fact that he’s True Blue Labour.

    • 31
      Hoorah says:

      “Mandelson and Darling Outflanking Balls, Brown, Cameron and Osborne”

      Thank fuck for that. Balls, Brown, Cameron and Osborne all sing from the same hymn sheet and they are a danger to the future of the UK.

      Probably find Mandy is the only one of those not following the cult of man made Global warming.

      • 76
        Tapestry says:

        Mandelson’s job is to seek a hung parliament and stop Cameron from getting his hands on renegotiating the Lisbon Treaty. If he does that, he’s achieved his mission. To stop Cameron he’ll even become Thatcherite. It’s a measure of the EU’s desperation to stop Cameron.

        • 96
          Dick Scratcher says:

          eh? Stop Cam from doing what? You don’t really think cast-iron Dave will bother the EU do you? Fat Ken will throw his weight around…small / no majority.

          • Gordon Brown stole my pension says:

            We know Dave won’t do anything, because he said so. When he revealed that his cast iron guarantee was just fluff – a lie – he went on to say (and you can google this) that his EU policy will be to sit at the back of the EU room and stay quiet and smile to people and nod and not making any noise or anything.

            Now, I know that when Dave says he’s going to do something, you have to take it with a bucket of salt (qv cast iron guarantee), but when he says he’s not going to do anything to upset our unelected Belgian emperor (can anyone remember that guy’s name?), I’m inclined to believe him. And hate him.

          • Mr Ned says:

            Von Rompuy. I always make sure to know the name of the dictator in charge.

        • 152
          Mr Ned says:

          “Mandelson’s job is to seek a hung parliament and stop Cameron from getting his hands on renegotiating the Lisbon Treaty.”

          You do not believe that he can renegotiate the treaty do you?

          It took 7 years for 27 pro federalist Governments to ratify this treaty. It would only take one stubborn one to veto Cameron’s wish to renegotiate it, as it is at least 20 would happilly veto any attempt to renegotiate it. It is NOT going to happen.

          The only options are accept full integration with the destruction of nation state democracy, or pull out altogether.

        • 202

          Cast-iron will never renegotiate the Lisbon Treaty, where do you get such nonsense from? He must be removed and replace by a real Conservative. The only way to do that is for Cameron to lose the election. If Cameron gets into power it will be the same old, same old New Labour policies. If there is a hung parliament with Brown winning, Cameron will be replaced by the Tories with a real Conservative leader. Then the next election (2011) we will get a real Conservative government. The choice at the next election will ne New Labour or Blue Labour.

          • CHIPPY says:

            Why all this hand wringing about the EU.Within the next ten years it will not excist.Once the former USSR satelites have become rich on the money from Germany and GB.France in the meanwhile will get less to prop up their fantasy excistance.The smaller countries will start getting stoppy then it will all hit the fan.

          • Al says:

            Real Alternative is a spotty Labour troll.

            Simple as that.

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            It not about new labour or blue labour. Labour has always been NuLabour and in many respects is further right than Maggie. Labour became conservative with a small c yet preached to its labour base and what did it do, yep you got it, they followed like sheep.

    • 80
      Great British Public says:

      I think that’s clear now: so there will be three main parties to vote for on the ballot paper:-

      1. Conservatives
      2.Labour ( Lost Plotters )
      3. Mandy’s Mendacious Muppets

      Somehow I don’t think I’ll be opting for number 2 or 3.

    • 87
      Jethro Walrus-Titty says:

      Can anyone see the resemblance between Gordon and Jabba the Hutt?

      GORDON
      http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_jabba_1.jpg

      JABBA
      http://futilitymonster.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/gordon-brown.jpg

    • 162
      Sir Trev Skint MP says:

      This is nothing new from the Dark Ring of the Lords.

      This could have been a speech from the Blairite mid 90′s. All he is doing is trying to appeal to the industrialists again. Probably for money, if you consider Labour’s 12 million quid overdraft.

      This kind of polarised representation from the two faces of Labour is a classic case of having your cake and eat it.

      It just shows what biggoted hoons they were then and are still today.

      • 290
        Anonymous says:

        Sounds ,to me,like Lord M is getting ready to withdraw ( or make it seem that way) from the 50% tax rate and try to make Dave look a right Twat.

  2. 2
    Mine d'Boggles says:

    Simple: no principles. Just turning with the breeze.

  3. 4
    Anonymous says:

    He’s always too eager to please the BBC and The Guardian

  4. 5
    Mitch says:

    I’m thinking that Cameron just aint the man for the job. Gordons a tosser and his GOAT just looks lame but fukin hell this is weak…..

    fix the fukin economy first you chinless fuckpig then businesses will start training people, force the issue and these poor kids will spend 2 yrs making tea and having pranks played on them…..
    I despair i really do.

    Gordon Brown will ask voters to give him “a full second term” at the election, I don’t remember them giving him the first one…..Blairs castoffs don’t count you monocular moron.

    • 13
      I am Sick says:

      Red tory Cameron being outflanked on the right, by Meddlesome and Darling! You could not make Dismal Dave up, none would believe such a person could ever be tory leader…oh wait…

  5. 6
    Mine d'Boggles says:

    And with Mandelsohn, the breeze is always loaded with money. So, the question is: who has got to him now? And why?

  6. 7

    Cameron’s opening speech of the year promised a new high-speed rail network and the creation of 100,000 apprenticeships.

    Presumably because the civil service is already primed with these projects

    It would be much more refreshing if an incoming legislature had to hire the civil servants rather than rely upon the incumbents

    …and back to Mandy…maybe he is touting for a job in Cameron’s cabinet

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/matthew_parris/article6981484.ece

    • 15
      I am Sick says:

      Meddlesome is too right wing for EcoDave, perhaps Ken Livingstone might have more of a chance?

  7. 8

    Mandelson may of course only be pitching for a job of some kind under an incoming Tory government. How refreshing it will be, in marked contrast, when his reptilian false charm is banished from public life for once and for all.

  8. 9
    John Cipher says:

    The speech is just the standard saying a lot and meaning nowt, empty loose made for TV verbiage of New Britian that lacks Bran Flakes fibre.

    Mr. Mandelson should see the light and learn fibre between the thighs of a good women.

    • 20
      15 years of Labour oblivion says:

      It’s all NuLab double speak. This sort of thing went on all the time under Blair. If a Tory said anything different to the leader, they’d be screaming headlines of a Tory split right across the media, but Labour are given the slack of having differing points of view across all portfolios, having the best of all worlds.

      This is why Dave is so careful.

      • 127
        David Tentant says:

        I think you will find Grodon is the cleverest person in the tardis. That cam bloke scares me more than the cyber men.

        • 170
          Mr Ned says:

          Stick to acting. You are only hurting your own credibility by backing Brown.

        • 237
          Yard Arm says:

          Gordon still wouldn`t be the cleverest person in the room if he was in a fucking `phone box.

          • Madness says:

            If Gb was the only person in a room he still wouldn’t be the cleverest.

          • cant hunter says:

            Have you seen the Mail on Sunday online ? Apparently Jonah Cyclops would refuse to step down, as Labour leader, following an election defeat, because Cameron would have only a small overall majority and would inevitably face another election. The prize lunatic is convinced that he alone has the ability to lead the country out of the mess ( largely of his making) and that the country would turn to him .Ye gods have you ever read anything more delusional in your life. What an absolute moron, for gods sake can no one put him, and us, out of his and our misery. It really is the time for the men in white coats.

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            It was time for the men in white coats some time ago. Blair new that and is now laughing so much he has constant stitch. The fact is there is no one in the labour party fit to lead this sorry excuse for a political party. Like a lot of people here I am open minded about DC but one thing is very clear he will stand head and shoulders above Brown.

        • 254
          Madness says:

          You need to stop drinking in the morning.

      • 208

        Cast-iron is not being careful, he’s a coward.

  9. 10
    gregor says:

    Yeah, let’s not forget that a vote for Darling and Mandelson is a vote for Brown and Balls. They’re all in this shit together.

    • 199
      Infanta of Castile says:

      Precisely.
      If (perish the thought) Labour were re-elected, it would be Brown who was prime minister with a shiny new 5 year term and the back benchers would all be desperate for promotion so wouldn’t rock the boat. Mandy and Darling’s leverage would be gone so whatever policies they espouse now would be irrelevant and Brown would be free to keep on rodgering the country at will by handing out any money that is left to single mothers of five kids and so on. New Labour doesn’t have a great track record on honouring manifesto commitments e.g. referendum on Lisbon treaty and no introduction of top-up fees so any salt which can be spared from the roads should be reserved for their election promises.

  10. 12
    I love Shami says:

    Why can’t these idiots just GRASP the NETTLE and order a systematic cull of non-jobs in the public sector? Start with everyone on a temporary contract (free to get rid of), any job that has the word “diversity” in it’s title, and 50% of the non-clinical staff in the NHS.

    • 24
      Mr Ned says:

      and any job whose title has the word ‘Climate’ in it too!

      • 63
        Archer Karcher says:

        Can`t touch environment jobs, just like in nazi Germany when there were SS men in every walk of life, to monitor all dissenters to the regime, today we have envirofascists installed in every part of society, who nothing can get past without their approval and that of our masters in Brussels.

    • 262
      No-oneHereUnderstandsHowtheNHSworks says:

      Shami-lover: great idea, getting rid of half of NHS non-clinical staff. So from now doctors will be typing all their own letters while the Nurses fix the plumbing in the toilets, and then hang out the washing. Junior doctors will man all the phones, while physios hunt for your casenotes.

      I mean, “non-clinical staff” just tick boxes all day, like the Daily Mail tells you.

      • 299
        I love Shami says:

        NHS ? Work? Hmmm…….Did nurses ever fix the plumbing or hang out the laundry? Did doctors write their own letters and answer the phones, or physios do the filing? No of course not – my point is that these jobs have always been done by dedicated teams within the NHS and long may it continue. However the “managers”, “administrators”, “co-ordinators” and “facilitators” that do little more than attempt to justify their own jobs (and pensions) need to be got rid of en masse. Are you one of those by any chance? By the way I don’t read the Daily Mail, I only read Asian Babes…..x

    • 279
      Allan@Aberdeen says:

      Just tally up every public sector non-job advertised in The Guardian since 1997 and terminate them. That will save £billions and make the public sector provide real services more efficiently.

  11. 14
    Mine d'Boggles says:

    Mandelson could be described as the arch-exponent of Modern Fascism: the personal link between government and big business. Follow the money back to … where?

  12. 16

    Mangledbutt knows just which side to spread his KY jelly.

  13. 22
    Ratsniffer says:

    With mates like Tuscany Polly, no wonder Boy Dave sounds positively NuLabour.

    Just when the country needs an Iron lady, it gets a dripping wet man.

  14. 23
    Norfolk & Chance says:

    I predict 2 party elections coming up

    Brown out, Mandy in.

    Cameron out, but who in ????????????????????

  15. 26
    dodgy dave says:

    Good sentiments from Manglebum, but sounds like a desperate ‘false flag’ to get the middles back. Must push harder! (ooh err)

    • 45
      golden delicious says:

      A false fag more like.

    • 46
      I'll have some of that says:

      Mandelson is streets ahead of any other politician in the UK in his ability. He did a great job in the EU, driving through a more free market competitive agenda, much to the dismay of the French. His instincts on the UK economy – more liberalisation, privatise PO, don’t bail out lame ducks etc, shows more authentic right wing commitment than Dismal Dave ever has.

      Yes – he’s a villain. He has enriched himself tremendously, he’s a master of manipulation and spin. But his ability to rise repeatedly from the dead is testament to his capabilities.

      He’s by far better PM material than any of the current generation of political pygmies we’re infested by.

  16. 28
    Anon, anon, anon..... says:

    Dave, yesterday when responding to the fact we are low on salt said
    ” We are going to have to plan things better in the future because we are going to suffer more extremes.”
    Sounds like we are all to be forced to move to higher ground and buy 4x4s.
    Is that a promise or a forecast? Bring out the entrails

    • 30
      Mr Ned says:

      Is that him trying to claim that excessive and continuing freezing is a symptom of global warming?

      WHAT A FUCKWIT!

      I think I hate Cameron almost as much as I hate Gordon Brown.

      • 39
        Archer Karcher says:

        Cameron is either thick as shit, thinks we are, or is as decietful as the filth in power. There can be no other conclusions.

        • 49
          Mine d'Boggles says:

          Cameron has never had a job. He isn’t thick. Just no sense of human values or proportion. Sad.

      • 43
        concrete pump says:

        “I think I hate Cameron almost as much as I hate Gordon Brown.”

        Steady Neddy.

        • 54
          tas dancing slag says:

          He’s gonna end up with a fucking coronary if he carries on like that, hopefully.

      • 47
        Anonymous says:

        Gordon Borrower, Labour’s gift to Britain.

    • 38
      Dave the apostle says:

      I heard him say that too. Dave as an apostle of the AGW sect defines any form of weather as proof that their God exists.

    • 42

      some numpty on R4 saying this weather was “not forecast”

      certainly not by our politically controlled Met Office with it’s fat trougher in charge, but why would anyone base their plans based on the forecasts coming from the Met Office?

      but Brillo managed to get the forecast, and grille the Met Office supremo on his department’s mistake

      • 77
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Brillo was excellent in that interview. More of the same please.

        Why has that wet fart Dimbleby got the BBC Leader Debate gig? Yawn.

        Prediction: Out of Dimbleby, Adam Boulton & Alistair Stewart, AS will shit all over the other two. ITN have got their Fox News heads on at the mo. Tom Bradby will line up some good Qs.

        • 186
          Brown Hater says:

          Dimbleby is a Bullingdon Boy with a third…good BBC stock! Top talent – bah!

    • 88
      Those who can Do says:

      Isn’t it ironic that all those despised 4×4 owners are now the only ones to be able to get about on the roads and keep Brown’s failing economy from a complete collapse.

      The present snow is evidence of Global Warming – I think not.

      • 116
        Goyish George says:

        no

      • 131
        Gordon says:

        The resilience of the British many the 4 wheel drivers pulling together comrades in arms whilst the privilaged few just sit in their mansions

        I did not mean to tax them really…(did we Ed?)

      • 172
        cant hunter says:

        Yes damn it ; I imagine sales of these bloody tanks will escalate in the next few months.

  17. 37
    Dack Blog says:

    This is the crux of the apathy issue. Though I’ve never voted Labour/New Labour or Tory, at least you knew which policies you agreed/disgreed with and why. Now they’re merging into one increasingly desperate and incompetent blur.

    • 44
      Archer Karcher says:

      That has been the plan all along, consensus politics eventually leads to the same destination, whoever you vote for. Dismal Dave is very big on consensus, very big indeed.

    • 238
      Moley says:

      Politics has become indistinguishable from football.

      Two teams playing the same game according to the same rules with the same referee.

      Some people support one, some support the other, but there is no difference between them.

  18. 40
    concrete pump says:

    Don’t be put off people. As useless as Cameron is, we must not let ourselves be confused about what we must do.

    We must vote Tory in order to get Labour out, painful for some i know, we all know Cameron isn’t a real Tory.

    WHEN the Conservatives get in, we must hammer them into shape.

    Campaign, write letters, e mails, get on to the streets.

    We must FORCE them to become recognisable Conservatives again.

    I want to see the Tories the ruling party with UKIP as opposition. This ( i hope) will come in good time.

    But for now, don’t waste your vote. I still have faith that right minded people in this country will do the right thing.

    Get me.

    • 55
      Susie says:

      Got you.

    • 61
      Raving Loon says:

      Cameron will not do the right thing. He will be the Labour party for 4 more years. People need to stop moaning and vote for different parties if they actually want things to change. Vote UKIP or Green depending on your preferences, but don’t vote LibLabCon ever again. They are the same party and the sooner people realise this, the better.

      • 305
        Gordon (my PhD is in Scottish Labour Party history - how the hell did I become Chancellor???) Brown says:

        Vote Green?
        Caroline Lucas is off her heed.
        Feck, she makes me look sensible.

    • 64
      Dick Scratcher says:

      …but if Snooty was more right wing now, he would get a/bigger majority. He thinks London IS the UK.

      There was a prog on BBC2 last night that stated there are over 50 ethnic groups in London that have over 10k population. The tail is wagging the dog.

      • 74
        Mr Ned says:

        I saw the same program, it was like an extended party political broadcast for the labour party.

      • 97
        Archer Karcher says:

        “He thinks London IS the UK.”

        I am from South London, along with many others, I left nearly 20 years ago.
        It`s a foreign country now.

        • 109
          Alien Mothership says:

          I like London. Its like going on holiday.

          • The London Tourist Board says:

            There really is no need to produce all that air mile carbon and risk getting blown up to see the world. Visit London today!

    • 66
      nell says:

      The truth is cameron as PM will have to perform well otherwise the conservative party will get rid of him; they are famous for their decisive knives in backs if things are not going well. That should be a pretty good incentive for cameron to up his game as he moves into no.10.

      As opposed to labour who clearly lack the backbone to get rid of dire gordon. It is even now being said that labour mp’s are afraid they won’t even be able to get shut of gordon after he has lost the election.

      I think that is a good enough reason, for now, for voting for cameron.

      • 138
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Snooty’s egg timer ran out ages ago. That fat Hunt Frank Luntz has a lot to answer for. If it wasn’t for that berk we wouldn’t have Cam in place.

        Don’t forget, Cam nearly got the boot just before Broon fucked up his election decision.

      • 209
        Cyco Billy says:

        I read it the same way, nell. If Cameo goes soft, he will find he has one 300lb gorilla all over his back called tory mps. There are sure signs of tory mps cultivating appetites for when they get power – right now I would think they are carving up the agenda between themselves so as not to duplicate future efforts.

      • 295
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        Inclined to agree. Brown must be defeated big time and with strong government and strong economic policies we might get through this difficult situation. There are many issues to consider but surely the over-riding issue is to get rid of this failed NuLabour government. The spin the lies and the failed policies and the severe mismanagement.

    • 67
      Mr Ned says:

      I understand where you are coming from, but I do not think that the owners, (the real owners) of the tory party will give a shit about what the people think, but go ahead, vote tory as that is better than voting labour or abstaining.

      I hope you are correct. I shall do my part in trying to get UKIP to be at least the official opposition.

    • 68
      Ratsniffer says:

      I see where you’re coming from Pump, but what if it works the other way? What if when Boy Dave gets in, it is he and his bunch of dripping wet hand-wringing liberal chums who slowly but surely get rid of anyone who does not subscribe to their touchy feel Polly-friendly brand of NooTory? We could simply end up with BluLabour.

      I agree, we need to do anything to get rid of the likes of Snotty and Harmperson, but what are we getting in their place? More of the same?

      • 107
        hackney marsh says:

        Remember Douglas Hurd at the Home Office? He signed up to every looney tune, marxist fuckwittery going just for a quiet life, so this is nothing new for a Tory government.

    • 98
      lol says:

      “concrete pump says:
      January 9, 2010 at 2:19 pm

      Don’t be put off people. As useless as Cameron is, we must not let ourselves be confused about what we must do……”

      I don’t think it is a matter of confusion. It’s more a case of looking at what’s on offer and thinking ‘fuck me is that it???’

  19. 50
    what has become of our country says:

    FFS they are the same. They are self interested, incompetent, thieving scum. The words mean nothing. Mandlebum knows what’s coming, and as with the badger, is rowing away as quickly as possible from the wreck. Better mind the sharks ! Bastards all of them.

  20. 52
    Dick Scratcher says:

    OK, the common consensus is that Lord Snooty is bloody useless.

    FACT: The Tories have never won an election without a sizeable working class vote. In the 1960s & 70s it was the Alf Garnets. In the 80s & 90s it was Loadsamoneys. CMD offers nothing to the working classes.

    He is soft on immigration, law & order, public sector waste, multi-culturalism and is a social liberal. Grrrrreat. He will not change.

    What do we do now? Get Peter Lilley & Nadine Dorris to send out an email asking for secret ballot?

    Who is the leadership candidate of nationalist populism? Suggestions please?

  21. 53
    Hugh Jardon says:

    http://toryardvaark.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/badgerface-to-be-culled/

    Would darling resign if Cyclops shafts him…??

    • 62
      Mitch says:

      How many labor ministers have resigned over a “real” principal eh?

      • 82
        Mr Ned says:

        Just two. The education Secretary some years ago who admitted that she was simply not good enough to do the job. She resigned on the Principle that the children deserved better. The other was Robin Cook who gave a great resignation speech. He even nearly told the truth about Saddam NOT being a threat to the UK.

        They are the only ones I can think of.

        • 235
          Mitch says:

          in 12 years of extreme fuckwittery.

        • 277
          Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

          Estelle Morris was the Education Secretary

          Boot face Short resigned over Iraq as well but I suspect that was more out of pique at lack of advancement rather than principle. Since then she’s given a passable impression of Ted Heath on the back benches.

  22. 56
    Anonymous says:

    Mandelson is a lot like Stephen Hawking – he can talk the talk but he cannot walk the walk.

    If Mandelson and Labour had delivered on speeches like that, the economy would not be in its current mess. The public sector would not be as bloated as it is. The private sector and the individual citizen would not be languishing beneath an unprecedented tax burden.

  23. 59
    I Squiggle says:

    So, why didn’t Darling say, what he is now saying, in his Pre-Budget Statement? Sounds like he wasn’t allowed to – but after this weeks events, now can. What does that say about Brown’s authority now?

  24. 65
    nigella says:

    simple….. I’ll vote for whoever stops me having to pay massive amounts of tax to support a load of useless fuckwits, who are ever increasingly fucking up our society and making it an intolerable place to live.

    Just make it happen, I’ve had enough rhetoric and cack supplied form all parties – sort it out.

  25. 69
    Cassandra says:

    Are you all as thick as you appear.

    Gordon Brown and David Cameron are the same???

    Gordon Brown has destroyed this countries wealth for a generation, consistently worked against the family and, with Blair, completely buggered up our energy policy.

    David Cameron knows that he can’t win the country without the centre ground, in case you haven’t noticed it is likely that the Conservative vote will have to be streets ahead of Labour just to win a small majority and I am sure he will need much more to govern without significant compromise.

    OK so he’s wrong about AGW, but if he said any different he would get annihilated, also he doesn’t sound right wing. If he did we would be ****** because we wouldn’t win the centre. Its not difficult to understand.

    Please get a grip. Another five years of these jokers would be too much for me to stand.

    • 111
      Mr Ned says:

      “Please get a grip. Another five years of these jokers would be too much for me to stand.”

      But you are going to vote for it anyway, aren’t you?

      Yes you are, because Cameron will not have the authority or the power or the legal ability to implement anything other than a continuation of what the current jokers are doing.

      The EU will not let him!!!!

      He can do NOTHING about immigration, climate taxes, carbon laws, employment laws, abuse of the human rights legislation, terrorism, ID cards, state surveillance or a whole host of other problems.

      Had he not been lying about ‘not letting matters rest’ post Lisbon, then I just might have been willing to give him a chance.

      Even IF (very big if) IF Cameron was wanting substantive and significant change in policies from those of the current losers in Government, the EU will not allow it!

      The EU will (now Lisbon is law) create over 80% of our laws, rules and direktives.

      Cameron is a puppet, window dressing, a con-trick.

      So no, we are not as thick as we appear at all. We see the big picture, we see how the tory supporters and labour supporters are being lied to repeatedly by their leaders unto believing that labour and tory are any different in application. It is highly effective neuro-conditioning, AKA Brainwashing.

      The sad fact is, they both are puppets working to the same Agenda of continuing social incohesion, societal decay, the failure of the nation, so that a supra national body can run things by diktat. No elections, no democracy, no say whatsoever on our future.

      It is the “post democratic age” that Common Purpose (who have infiltrated all major pro EU parties) trains its graduates to be the leaders of.

      No we are not thick. We are awake and aware of what is REALLY going on.

      • 129
        Cassandra says:

        I think you would be delighted to stand on the sidelines shouting out your principles and it would make you feel good.

        Your UKIP stance, which is not just a wasted vote but practically a Labour vote, is all very well but we have to deal in the world as it is and not just as we would like it to be.

        • 164
          Anonymous says:

          vote for a real tory , not dave

        • 183
          Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

          Cameron’s problem is he’s adopting what is centre ground now, but events could soon shift the mainstream to the right. AGW will become widely accepted as a scam and voters over here will start realise what a incompetent puppet Obama is, as most US voters have already. Cameron has embraced AGW and publicly praises Obama at every opportunity. He’s even called himself a ‘progressive’! Where will that leave him in 2012? Hannan isn’t going away just because Cameron gets elected.

        • 188
          Mr Ned says:

          I vote according to my conscience. I cannot vote for more anti-British extremists to replace the current anti-British extremists.

          There is a BIG problem in this country caused by labour. And not matter how much we both hate the labour party, the fact is, the tories are NOT the answer.

          I would love for them to be, I really would, but wishful thinking backed delusion will NOT make the tories into the solution.

          BTW in a democracy, there is no such thing as a wasted vote, to suggest that it is, is the argument of a profoundly anti-democratic mind. The whole point of voting is to have your say, no matter what that is. Even writing “You are all a bunch of wankers” is not wasted. If you are seriously suggesting that people should not vote with their conscience as that is a waste of a vote, then why allow people to vote how they wish at all?

          Following that way of thinking, would you support a law that mandated only voting either labour or tory?

          You will be admitting that I am right about the tories within a few short, disappointing years.

          • Cassandra says:

            The point of voting is to have your say. Rubbish, if we all determined the policy of the government according to what we thought was right that would be correct but we don’t because we have a party system, you don’t have to like it but that is the way it is.

            Compromise isn’t just a part of the system, it is the system. Otherwise we would all vote for every bill which went through Parliament.

            Your attitude is destructive to the party which is most likely to be close to your beliefs. I am not pro EU. However, if lots of people vote UKIP the party who stand to gain most isn’t UKIP, its Labour, and they don’t agree with you on anything.

            You have a vote, thats right and yes you have the right to make up your own mind. That doesn’t stop me thinking that you are stupid for thinking that voting the way you do will help your cause rather than hinder it.

            I am at least as democratic in my views as you are, and probably more anti EU, but to reduce their power I want my vote to count for something not be wasted, or worse still be a means to let these useless morons stay in power for a further four years.

          • windowlicker says:

            You are both tools contributing to a lack of voting.

            Nothing you say makes any different.

            Dave will be weak, because he is weak, it is why he was chosen.

            You hate politicians without principle or policy and then continue to vote for them.

            You are everything wrong with modern politics.

            You are everything wrong with the UK

            You are the enablers.

            Vote how you fucking want. Pro EU or Anti-EU. Just vote.

            Early and often.

            Double spacing over.

  26. 71
    Dave Cameron says:

    If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a hundred times

    “I DON’T WANT TO BE PRIME MINISTER”

    A vote for the Conservative Party is a wasted vote

    • 84
      Cassandra says:

      Lets try and find someone who admits to having voted for Labour four years ago. Not so easy is it?

    • 89
      1st class says:

      Too late Dave, Brown is so fucking awful and useless, you’re going to have to put up or shut up, preferably both.

      Now get on with learning your lines.

  27. 72
    50 Calibre says:

    I have no time for Mandleson. He just latches on to whomsoever he thinks will advance his career, but Oh that Cameron could have delivered those paragraphs. They certainly hit the spot that Mrs T would be aiming for right now were she in a position so to do…

    • 189
      Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

      Mandy doesn’t give a fuck about his public facing career. He is a Bilderberger and that is all he cares about. He could be Labour Leader, Tory Foreign Secretary, Lib Dem Transport spokesman for all it matters. As long as everything is going to plan he is happy. You did see him munching the apple? Everything *is* going to plan, crunch!

  28. 73
    Anonymous says:

    “Can you imagine Cameron delivering a speech written by Steve Hilton like that? ”

    Yes I can. I am quite sure that if he was briefed properly he could do it. It does not matter what he says, he does not understand any of it. He might believe it, but understanding is beyond him. He certainly does not understand the voters.

    He is just a fashion follower. If he continues to go to the electorate as a single leader he will fail. His only choice is to put up a proper core team approach and spend the next month, as a team, immersed with real people.

    • 94
      Cassandra says:

      He has played a blinder mate. He has a 10ish% lead and it may get higher as Labour destroy themselves over the next few weeks.

      The point here is winning, shouting your principles from the sidelines counts for nothing.

      • 102
        Dack Blog says:

        ‘ …it may get higher as Labour destroy themselves over the next few weeks.’

        That doesn’t make you a winner – more the ‘best loser.’

        Surely he’s got to come up with (concrete) reasons to vote for him, rather than sit back and wait for Labour to create more reasons to vote against them?

        That ‘against’ vote may not be for a Tory candidate.

        Labour are often criticised for ‘creating’ parties like the B&P. Dave must also accept some of the blame for not giving swing voters another credible option.

      • 117
        I'll have some of that says:

        He’s another Ted Heath. We’ve 4 or 5 more desperate years of the country going down the toilet, with our shot to bits economy being run by wee Georgie Osborne, the Public sector on strike every other day, the eco loons trashing 4×4′s and the countryside, power cuts, and back to the 3 day week.

        Obama is Jimmy Carter II. The pop music will be as crap as the Bay City Rollers at their worst.

        Yes – it’s Back to the Future with call me Dave.

        And no – there isn’t anybody else, realistically. Vote Esther Rancid?

        • 132
          Cassandra says:

          You are all talking a load of B*******.

          There is a long history of conservative governments putting right Labour **** ups. This will be no different. Once in power you can make things happen, when you are on the sidelines you can do very little except respond to the govt. agenda.

          Vote Conservative, you know it makes sense.

          • Dick Scratcher says:

            I didn’t know CCO worked weekends. Ashcroft must be paying overtime.

          • Benny Fitz-Clements says:

            Muppet ! Work is for losers.

          • Mr Ned says:

            Whenever did Ted Heath correct labour fuck-ups?

            He was a tory who pretended to be labour to appease the socialists and the unions. He was a disaster and a traitor and he sold the whole country out.

            Cameron looks like another Ted Heath.

          • Mr Ned says:

            Cassandra, don’t blame me for switching from the tories (several years ago) to UKIP, Blame Cameron, Osborne et al, for leaving me no option.

            He could have finished UKIP completely, He could have guaranteed himself a massive landslide victory, but he is on the way to a hung Parliament.

            Ask yourself WHY? Why would Cameron rather appease a foreign dictatorship (the EU) than support the overwhelming majority of the people of this country?

            He is a traitor. Why should I vote for a weak, dithering, treasonous bandwagon jumping con-artist like Cameron?

          • Granny smith says:

            I do, and i will.

      • 173
        Anonymous says:

        Put someone behind a curtain to mark a paper will mean their selfish views will come forward.

        If you trust polling, you do not understand the purpose of the Brown handout culture.

  29. 75
    streamfisher says:

    Peter Mandelson says it really doesn’t matter which way you go, the Cheshire cat can appear and disappear at will.

  30. 79
    Eva Brown says:

    Counting the days until Hoon gives evidence at the Iraq enquiry, I am sure he will give Gordon a glowing endorsement over said events to take into the election.

  31. 93
    Peter Grimes says:

    Is that the speech given by Princess Mandolina this week in the brand spanking (pace Mandy) new premises of the non-charity charity The Work Foundation? You know, the fake charity whose puffy propaganda pieces are produced for this piss-poor ‘government’ and whose CE is the rent-a-gob, ex-Grauniad ZaNuLieBor sycophant Will Hutton?

    I guess that the ‘government’ needed a new neutral venue now that the Smith Institute can’t use the Treasury for its propaganda meetings!

  32. 100
    Mr Plum says:

    Seems to be a lot of Labour Luvvies on here today.
    Keep up the good work Dave, hold your nerve while labour self destruct.

    • 125
      Mr Ned says:

      Labour luvvies? Could you point them out? Or are you another tory whose delusions and paranoia lead you to the mistaken belief that criticism of the tories in general and Cameron in particular is some-how pro labour?

      I have read all the comments on this thread and see no influx of labour support.

    • 160
      Dick Scratcher (Tebbitite) says:

      CMD is ineffective. Emperor’s clothes.

    • 306
      Gordon (my PhD is in Scottish Labour Party history - how the hell did I become Chancellor???) Brown says:

      Aye, keep it up Dave – I might end up winning this fucking election!!!

  33. 104
    filipinomonkey says:

    Completely and utterly off topic but worth a read in my opinion.

    In the space of just four months during the desert campaign of 1942, Jack Toms won two Military Crosses, the second for his extraordinary bravery and foresight during the two most crucial days of the Battle of El Alamein.

    The date was October 26, 1942. Montgomery had launched the 8th Army’s attack three days earlier, but it had met spirited resistance from the enemy. With the Italians putting up an uncharacteristically stubborn defence and the Germans mounting counter-attacks, Montgomery became seriously worried about the outcome – and a deep gloom descended on Churchill in London.

    Kidney Ridge (also known as the Snipe) now became the focus of a desperate struggle in which German and Italian tank commanders exerted every sinew to break through anti-tank defences, which included a troop of 6-pounder guns of the 2nd Battalion The Rifle Brigade under the command of Second Lieutenant Jack Toms.

    Toms had taken up position on the vital western flank of the hill, but was almost immediately attacked by enemy tanks before his guns could be dug in. Nevertheless, throughout the day The Rifle Brigade’s 6-pounders took a spirited toll of their assailants.

    During the following morning further tank attacks were met and repulsed, but as the day wore on Toms’s guns began to run short of ammunition and their crews began to take severe casualties from the overwhelming weight of the enemy’s tank gunfire. He was soon down to one functioning 6-pounder and the entire southwestern sector of the British position was now threatened.

    In the words of the battalion commander, Major Vic Turner (later to be awarded the Victoria Cross): “By now the position had become extremely hot in both senses of the word. The desert was quivering with heat. The gun detachments squatted in their pits, the sweat running in rivers down their dust-caked faces . . . The flies swarmed in black clouds upon the dead bodies, and tormented the wounded . . .”

    In the early afternoon the crisis became even more acute when a force of eight tanks supported by self-propelled guns bore down on the position manned by Toms’s troop, which they evidently regarded as being incapable of returning their fire. Manning the only undamaged gun that could be brought to bear on the enemy, Toms, Turner and the 6-pounder’s commander, Sergeant Charles Calistan, formed themselves into a gun’s crew and opened a devastatingly accurate fire with their remaining ammunition, knocking out five of the tanks.

    But with only two rounds left, the remaining three continued to come on, subjecting the lone artillery piece to a withering fire to which it could make no reply. Realising that they must shortly be overwhelmed, Toms ran to his Jeep a hundred yards away and quickly loaded on to it several boxes of 6-pounder shells from another gun which had been put out of action. He drove back with the precious ammunition, with machinegun bullets from the three tanks streaming down on him in what was later described as an almost suicidal act. In doing so he was wounded in the right hand.

    The Jeep was riddled with bullets and burst into flames ten yards short of the guns. Nevertheless, Toms, Turner and another NCO, Corporal Francis, lugged the ammunition from the burning vehicle and got it to Calistan’s gun which was brought to bear on the advancing enemy, now only 200 yards away. Calistan then coolly picked off the three remaining tanks one by one, assisted by his loader Sergeant Chard, who was in turn fed with ammunition by the two officers and by Francis.

    The Axis attack, which half an hour before had seemed virtually irresistible, was simply blown away, and The Rifle Brigade position, crucial at that juncture to the outcome of the entire battle, was saved.

    Although suffering considerable pain from his wounds, Toms continued to command his troop throughout the rest of the day, during which it accounted for a total of 23 tanks as well as other vehicles and guns. When the troop was relieved, he walked from the position among his soldiers, rather than accept transport.

    Educated at Eton, John Edward Bowring Toms joined The Rifle Brigade soon after the outbreak of war

    Oh Eton, isn’t that supposed to make him useless?

    • 114
      Maladroit Labour Chump says:

      ‘The Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton’ is a quote attributed to the Duke of Wellington.

      We abolished patriotism and National Pride in 1997 and replaced it with celebrating multi-culturalism. Do keep up, please.

      IF you object you are a racist. Q.E.D.

    • 120
      The Dirty Rat says:

      Kidney Ridge. Mandelson has had a few contacts at that location.

    • 128
      Mr Ned says:

      The hatred of Eton in the left is a sign of hypocrisy and jealousy. Hypocricy because the labour manifesto were dreamt up on the playing fields of Fettes and half a dozen other fee-paying toff schools, and jealousy because they produced current third raters in the labour cabinet.

    • 133
      COVLAD says:

      Well done that man ! Good post, point well made.

      God blessToms and those who fought with him.

    • 163
      Dick Scratcher says:

      There are currently 56k British forces & MOD personnel in Germany. Why? More waste.

  34. 105
    Peter Handlesmen says:

    Steady on Fawkes ! Are you suggesting I’m a self-serving, back-stabbing, scheming schmoozer who’s just aiming to be as wealthy as T.B£iar ??

  35. 106
    Steve Hilton says:

    Doesn’t take much to “outflank Osborne”.
    My information is that Dave will ditch the stupid bugger very soon.
    He is the weak link and preventing a glorious Conservative victory

    • 110
      the money tree says:

      Fucking hell, another Gideon denier.

      • 118
        Steve Hilton says:

        This is the reason

        George Osborne has backed Gordon Brown as Prime Minister.

        “I would still rather have Gordon Brown than David Cameron,” Osborne told the latest edition of Pink News.

        “I would rather have a prime minister who is the cleverest person in the room, than a prime minister who looks good in a suit.”

        “I think David Cameron is a terrifying prospect,” added Osborne

        • 126
          out of his head on skunk says:

          Fair enough, I think I saw that somewhere.

        • 165
          Maladroit Labour Chump says:

          It’s a typical load of twaddle. Bet the BBC have got a hand in that pile of dogshit.

        • 191
          cant hunter says:

          One money saver I will never ever part with good money to see that funny looking David Tennant perform again, not, given his very irritating Hamlet performance that I would have been inclined to; he’s just so weird looking. Still at least his “political” views explain why the BBC patronises him so exhaustively.

    • 169
      Dick Scratcher says:

      Gideon has started smoking big cigars to make his voice deeper & have gravitas…it’ll never happen George.

  36. 134
    Tony says:

    Darling drops a bombshell and forces Labour into dropping it’s cuts versus investment bullshit.

    And Nick Robinson has nothing to say. What a useless bag of shite.

  37. 135
    julian says:

    “Mandelson and Darling Outspanking
    Balls, Brown, Cameron and Osborne.”

    Where did get this strapline, Spanking for Britain?

  38. 136
    angelnstar says:

    http://bit.ly/8Xeuk1 OK chaps, you want a good speech? Get a load of this. Boris is wowing them in West Hampstead. Afterwards, people were hanging from the windows, cheering him to his bike.

    The link is the video.

  39. 148
    Jonah Watch says:

    Smashing article by Peter “Ahhhhh” Oborne (esp for those who despise Ed Balls) (also the obligatory brown looking a twat photo).

    “……In the hours after the release of their letter inviting fellow Labour MPs to organise a ballot on Brown’s future, the beleaguered Prime Minister’s survival was in the balance and he was forced to make a series of important concessions to his political enemies.
    These concessions mean that Brown has become a prisoner of his own Cabinet.
    It is worth spelling out what happened in some detail.
    Crucially, Ed Balls, the Prime Minister’s chief courtier and chosen successor, has been cut down to size. ….”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1241780/PETER-OBORNE-He-survived-week-thanks-Mandy–But-assassins-strike-election.html

    • 159
      Cassandra says:

      If true, then Brown will be forced to stop playing the class card and also be more honest about public finances.

      I don’t think he is capable of taking criticism on board though, so the fallout may be quite interesting.

      • 174
        Jonah Watch says:

        that is the intriguing part, can BrownBalls hold this new line (& it is a new line Marr interview) when their instincts are pointing them in the other direction!

        • 221
          South of the M4 says:

          Nope. ‘cos it is just a statement for public consumption. They know what the voters want to hear, but have no intention of giving it to them because we are wrong – and they are right. This is no more than a strategy to diminish and split the Tory vote. What this lot say, is never what they do.

  40. 156
    BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

    You can always rely on Mandy to come along the back passage and catch them unawares !!!

  41. 157
    Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, we're stuck in the middle with them! says:

    The Conservatives have been saying for ages that the public sector needs to be sorted out. Only now the left have been forced into admitting cuts will need to be made, not “investing in recovery” b0ll0cks. This should be easy to attack New Labour with, their dishonesty in covering up the true dire state of the economy in an attempt to buy New Labour votes from the thick class.

    Labour now claim we need massive cuts, but are still continuing to roll out the £18bn ID cards + database. They are still pushing the BT / GCHQ spy database on every phone line (now you know why BT is so eager to change the network to 21CN – all IP based network is easier to track and record).

    However the reality is, that NONE of the three main parties are willing to take a proper axe to all the waste, there are too many voters they could p1ss off. And so the UK will continue to sink into the police state that New Labour created for their European New World Order masters like Van Rompuy.

    • 207
      Mr Ned says:

      Correct.

      • 280
        Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

        The reason for the coup – and Darling’s sudden conversion to real-world economics – is simply the upcoming end of QE and the ’80 percent’ (copyright Ed Ball’s brother) chance of the UK’s credit rating being downgraded before the election.

        Even the new Labour dolly from the FT said on Newsnight said she expected the ratings agencies to move by the spring.

        Funny how Ed Ball’s brother seems to have saved the bug-eyed stutterer from destroying the Labour party with his ‘dividing lines’.

  42. 158
    AC1 says:

    Guido Fawkes you Dave Arse licker you!

    /sarcasm.

  43. 177
    bofl says:

    oh dear.wasnt the cowdenbeath cont waffling on a few weeks ago about cuts being anti-british?

    so now the cabinet have told him and us that the govt will have to make savage cuts………..everyone except the ‘brain’ knows what lies ahead……….

    the man is a disgrace and should be prosecuted for every lie he has ever told…….

    ‘best placed’??????????

    just how will all the jobs come back?
    the govt. is bust.
    the banks dont want or need to lend money because the govt. has given them free funding……..

    and many individuals are facing tough times…
    bankruptcies are at a record.

    in the real world inflation never falls.

    rail rises,petrol,gas etc……….

    the uk is finished.we will never recover……….

    but that is the plan surely?

  44. 181
    bofl says:

    what is it with the modding on here?

    did glasnost pass you by guido?

    at least post some rules on what can and can’t be said………..

  45. 204
    Think this says:

    Wow . Wonder what mandy thinks about the 50p rate?

  46. 206
    Nu Arsesuckers says:

    Wow! That Mandybumandfistyerson speech can be distilled into:

    “I have a right good wank when I reflect on the relentless thieving off the poor by the rich that has taken place in Britain over the last 30 years. And, from now on, I sincerely want the rich to pay no taxes at all, and the poor to be taxed until they become a new species of malnourished dwarfs with a life expectancy of 45 years.”

    It is a genuinely Satanic speech from a deeply evil Hunt.

  47. 213
    andrew says:

    he shouldn’t “get credit”, he should be shamed for saying the exact opposite right up to today.

    • 242
      South of the M4 says:

      Correct. And for all the other NuLabour MP’s who have also sat and watched McRuin destroy everything he touches.

  48. 214
    Fuck off back to Scotland McMong says:

    It doesn’t matter, the one eyed Scottish idiot is still in denial about cuts, McMong really is like Hitler in the bunker, only instead of moving around non existent armies, the thick jock simply moves around non existent wads of money.

    IT does make you wonder how many doses of drugs they have to pump into Mcshit to get him out in front of the cameras.

    • 219
      Thatcher's 'snatch says:

      Gosh you’re one of the boys aren’t you?

    • 307
      Gordon (my PhD is in Scottish Labour Party history - how the hell did I become Chancellor???) Brown says:

      Aye, I never liked that Jock David Tennent.

  49. 225
    Apagusta says:

    ‘Enterprise and reward go hand in hand’…the only things going in and out of mandie’s dandies is Gordon’s dick and Ed’s balls..the twats a self serving
    two faced shit shuffler who now sits in the lords playing Mr Aloof…the scumbag needs an oligarch’s steamer up his scuttlebucket to wipe that smarmy look off his face once and for all.

  50. 227
    Fuck off back to Scotland McMong says:

    ********Fucking BBC Hunts********

    Just watched the BBC 1 news. Alistair Darling’s mention of HUGE public sector spending cuts got 5 seconds. Could you imagine if Cameron or Osborne had said that today? The fucking Cocaine using rent boy raping wankers at the BBC wouldn’t have shut up about it.

    Fuck off you BBC shit stabbing molesters.

    • 241
      South of the M4 says:

      ‘cos 5 seconds is the amount or time Darling will spend on this subject. Soundbite only. No real action will follow.

  51. 228
    crackers says:

    Norman Tebbit are you still alive?

    If so your party needs you.

    Dream Ticket:

    PM Norm
    Chancellor Redwood

  52. 230
    P H M May says:

    Listen Hard Team !!!

    Cameron has got the Tories to 12 points ahead with four months to go!

    It’s easy for Lord Fondlebum to make such comments and to suggest ‘he’ is outflanking DC – the 12 points suggest not

    We all know what Tories believe; DC is no different

    Four months to go and we have it to lose – it’s ours

    Do not frighten the horses – steady as she goes

    The Tories can afford to appear just half a step behind such statements by Mandy – it matters not!

    As for Mandy and the Tories – drop it – waste of time!

    Lots of Trolls today – another indication that the Tories are on target for 100 seat win!

    Just like Collingwood – one ball at a time – no need to attempt to throw a six!!

    All the hard work has been done – we’re coasting to a Tory victory

    New Labour is truly fecked and they know it – the words ‘Titanic’ and ‘deckchairs’ spring to mind – Labour has been soundly thrashed

    • 264
      Flat Earther says:

      Spot on.
      I’ve listened to Blair for over a decade promising everything and delivering sweet fa.
      What have the likes of Mandleson, Brown and Darling delivered in the last 13 years? one almighty fucking disaster of a bust.

    • 284
      udderly 'orrible says:

      Well he’d better up his game, dump global warmist crap, spell out — in words of one syllable — the size of every single departmental cut (forget ring-fenced NHS foreign aid and the rest), admit the only spending will be on reducing spending, and commit to repealing 4000 Marxist new labour laws from Day One.
      If he can’t, better to leave McRuined-the-world in place to face the IMF and national riots.

      • 303
        windowlicker says:

        Polling doesn’t reflect true intention.

        There will be a massive third party upset.

        Dave may be on that landscape because Dave is on telly –

        But Dave will not own that landscape.

        He will be owned by it.

        He will have a fifty two seat majority and think himself lucky.

        That is all.

  53. 239
    angelnstar says:

    This is what a real orator sounds like! You’ve read the report, now on your Saturday night, watch the video, hahahah. Dump Avatar and The Hurt Locker, this is better.

    http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/boris-galvanises-west-hampstead/

  54. 240
    denverthen says:

    Good post, Guido.

  55. 248
    Stephen Byrne says:

    Doesn’t matter what Lord Mandelson says (he’ll say almost anything); it’s what the government actually does e.g. raising national insurance and making employment law so complicated that no one but the government can manage its burdens. If he believes in enterprise, then he can get Mr Darling to lower income tax, reduce corporation tax and increase the tax thresholds for employers. This is just for starters, in order to show us that he means what he says. There’s no chance of that, though, is there?

  56. 250
    Anonymous says:

    If you suffer from “silver spoon” disease you feel you have to do things like that to win points with the electorate even though it’s Brown/Balls economics.

  57. 251
    An Englishman says:

    It’s not a problem if Brownstuff and Ballsup smash the Labour Party into the ground.

    But they’re also smashing the country into the ground, and that’s terrifying.

    I want the madman to stay leader because every day he’s wrecking Labour’s prospects in the election. Yet I know that every day he’s wrecking Labour, he’s also wrecking the country. Can’t anyone do anything to force an early election for the nation’s sake?

    Even a military coup would be better than this.

  58. 252
    Socialism has murdered 150 million human beings pride says:

    Oborne (a Broon arse-kisser in my book) called it right in the Mail. As the price for “support” against HewitHoon the Bottle Fed Boy is to drop the “Back to the (18)80′s class war bollocks while Mandy tries to keep the middle-class mugs on board with more New Lab shite about “enterprise” and keeping the money you earn etc. Brown has never kept a deal in his scum-sucking life and the middle classes-apart from Guardian reading twats–have gone far beyond recall. Its all damage control now.

  59. 263
    Sick of fucking liberals and communists trashing the place says:

    Dave Cameron: We can’t go on like this, I’ll cut spending not the NHS….

    No mate you can simply fuck off cause i aint voting for a red in the bed Manchurian Candidate like you.

  60. 270
    Cameron = Blair = Tossers says:

    “Dave sounded more like Gordon Brown than Maggie.” – Absolutely, and that is why the Conservatives will not be getting my vote again until they have a leader who is actually a Conservative and not some kind of limp LibDem in drag.

  61. 282
    Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

    Get down to the bookies and lay £20 on a 70+seat majority.

    At the 2005 election Michael Howard (PBUH) came within 1000 votes in 33 seats of a hung parliament.

    The 2005 election was 33,000 english votes from a hung parliament.

    The ‘Tories great mountain to climb’ was mostly conquered by Howard.

  62. 286
    Middle-class, middle aged Cheshire bloke with a few bob who should be a Tory but is too pissed off says:

    OK- I’ve had a letter/survey form today from the Tories today, asking about my voting intentions and about any suggestions I might have.

    My reply will be tp the effect that CMD needs to grow a pair of bollocks and ditch the green/AGW/social democrat bollocks and to simultaneously commit to a genuine Conservative agenda. This will involve (amongst other things)renegotiation of our EU membership, development of immigration policies that meet our genuine needs as a society and not some half-arsed social engineering fuckwittery, depoliticising of the Civil Service and police, a real eductaion system- you get the picture.

    I want my country back, and CMD and crew aren’t getting my vote or one red cent until I see something I can believe in. Until then, they can fuck off as I’ll be voting UKIP.

  63. 288
    Anonymous says:

    Dave Tennant is the new Richard Wilson.

  64. 289
    Worried Tory says:

    Guido,

    I’ve read your site for a few years and this is the best post you’ve written.

    Keep it up!

  65. 304
    Gordon (my PhD is in Scottish Labour Party history - how the hell did I become Chancellor???) Brown says:

    They will cut – WE WILL SPEND!!!!!!



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