December 31st, 2009

The Online Left Thinks 2010 Will Be Their Year

Look away if you hate blogging on blogging. The unpopular left-wing part of the blogosphere is convincing itself that 2010 will be the year they take off. Prospect’s editor James Crabtree has an article in the New Statesman to that effect.

Most critics and even the right-wing blogosphere gives Will Straw’s Left Foot Forward credit as the best new online offering from the left.  It does what successful blogs need to do, produces timely original content that runs ahead of the mainstream media’s news agenda.  Will knows this won’t directly achieve much electorally, instead he aims realistically to influence and frame the media debate, rather than win votes, which he doesn’t think any blogs can deliver.  Sometimes we can Will.  Yes, we can

LabourList is, like LabourHome before it, a bit directionless and seems more about cheering up the troops than scaring the enemy. That might be a valid role. It is of course way better than back in Draper’s day. Boy, does Guido miss him. To match up to ConservativeHome’s influence and be taken as seriously by the host party as Tim Montgomerie is will take some doing.

  • Sunny Hundal’s Liberal Conspiracy suffers from what Lenin would call an “infantilist disorder”, that is the kind of leftism Guido wants to see dominate the Labour Party in the next decade.  A modernised version of the loony left of the eighties would be ideal fodder for this blog.
  • Hopi Sen, Tom Watson and Tom Harris all write well, but are they really willing or able to put in the hours Dale does?
  • As for Twitter, it isn’t going to win any votes and is a tool, not a means. Forget it.
  • This blog?  Guido plans to be in the same position, performing the same role under the next government as this one.

The left has to get the post-election civil war out of the way first before it re-groups. Given that the online left is way to the left of the electorate, there is a good chance that the Labour blogosphere will help consign the Labour Party to irrelevance for a good while. 

There is a good chance the Labour blogosphere will be as much of a hindrance to the Labour Party in 2010 as it was in 2009…


214 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    The delusion continues.

  2. 2
    gone fuckin mental says:

    Why dont you a dolly get a civil partnership , you are like a lovesick teenager

  3. 3
    BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

    The wilderness years beckon, but only after they have completed their scorched earth policies on the run up to the election !!

  4. 4
    Uncle Si says:

    Is there any ‘left’ left? Right, Left and the ones in the middle all look the same to me!

  5. 5
    Brown Hater says:

    The most important hinderance to the Labour Party is doing the right thing…let him get on with the job! The most valuable thing he can do for this country is to carry on till May.

    His lasting and quite appropriate legacy will be to consign the Labour Party to the political lunatic fringes.

    Oh yes, I nearly forgot, I hate him.

  6. 6

    I read some readers’ letters on The Guardian website just now.

    It was a timely reminder as to why I stopped buying The Guardian

    Barking. Every one.

  7. 7
    ian e says:

    The only trouble is that ‘hate’ is such a mild little word – language can really limit one!

  8. 8
    Dave "Tally Ho" Cameron says:

    I’ve challenged myself to have 6000 wanks in 2010.

    This will be easy after attaining 2009’s 5000 wank target with one hand tied behind my back.

  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Uncle Si-Thats because theres an election looming and victories are won claiming the centre round.After the election the winning party will assume their true stance.Cameron will give us,for example, massive (warranted) spending cuts , overhaul of the public sector ,declare Britain is open for business.Brown will tax the middle classes out of existence and turn us into a debt ridden shithole.

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    why can’t the British left come up with anything as entertaining and vicious as the formerly russian and now, (more parochial but still often interesting) american http://www.exiledonline.com ? check out their archive stuff at http://www.exile.ru

  11. 11

    Brown’s New Year’s resolution.

    * Cut down on impulse spending announcements
    * Jog properly, not just that fat boy shuffle. {Peter says he can help me get my knees right up!}
    * Spend more time with whassername, erm..the twittery woman.
    * Take dog out more {see above}
    * restrict myself to just one or two U-turns a week
    * Hold election {really must do it this years}

  12. 12
    50 Calibre says:

    You couldn’t make it up…

  13. 13
    tat says:

    independent bloggers think 2010 will be their year and they are right.
    top boy confidently predicts his blog will piss all over everyone elses poxy efforts.
    welcome to my world motherfuckers.
    hold on tight, it’s gonna be a rough ride.

  14. 14

    UK’s debt is now so large it can be seen from space.

  15. 15
    tat says:

    top boy’s new year resolution
    *chop off brown’s head and stick on spike.
    *burn body.

  16. 16
    Four eyes says:

    Tom Harris is a complete hoon.

  17. 17
    Ratsniffer says:

    There’s nothing wrong with a bit of blog navel-gazing, same thing happened, no doubt, when newspapers were first printed, it certainly happened with TV (BBC top brass were convinced it would always be a minority interest with radio leading the way) and of course, it happened with the birth of the internet “The internet is strictly for geeks” – J.Street Porter”
    As with all of the above media, it’s quality and popularity which will win through in the end. Natural selection will weed out the shite. (having said that, the guardian still survives…)

  18. 18

    New Lab have lost The Muslim vote.

  19. 19
    Ratsniffer says:

    I’ll come and have a peek, Tat, if I may. I don’t always agree with you, but I like the fact you are allowed to say it without having the Stasi dropping through your roof on ropes and bundling you away to a “re-education” camp. How long will this freedom last though? how long before blogs are suddenly, mysteriously “taken off air”?

  20. 20
    tat says:

    I am just about to test that question to destruction ratsniffer.

  21. 21
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    On the contrary, Tom Harris is living proof that realism can exist in Lefty hearts and minds, if only fleetingly.

  22. 22
    Master Of War says:

    The online left can talk as much shit as they want it will not get them anywhere fast, post election unless certain things come to pass.

    1) The inevitable blood bath and butchering within the party as the new overtake the old, with some cases of the old refusing to go and being forced out.

    Ala Mr Balls and Mr Straw Snr and alot of the other current tainted that will have to be sacrificed to the public alter.

    The old dyanmic offers nothing, accept that now and you will be able to adapt to your enemy quicker, the ‘HEAVY’ top down approach the internal machinations of the Labour party use is finished.

    You cannot bring in new blood and let it stagnate like Labour predictably does time and time again.

    Pace and speed is of the essence, if you linger like a wounded beast you achieve nothing but enthusing even timid people to attack you.

    2) Re-evaluation and re branding of what Labour stands for and hope to achieve. Which in turn will probably bring a short term ideology conflict to erupt.

    Thus at times will seem as if it will tear the party apart but this is natural ‘within the eye of the storm’ over reaction/over magnified cause and effect.

    It will pass, but keep in mind the long term picture and gains over the short term.

    3) Pick your enemies and battles carefully.

    The men behind the scenes will know what i am talking about, you will have new eager and inexperienced blood wanting to jump both feet in.

    As the custodians of the party and experienced veterans you will have to reinforce this point time and time again. Until you have whipped your force into a reliable army.

  23. 23
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    I would suggest you burn Snotty first and then cut off his head* / stick it on a spike.

    More pain involved that way

    *Blunt saw optional

  24. 24
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    ….. only because of wodges of public money provided for an obsolete service by a shite government. Take away the public service job ads, and the Guardian is history. As will be P Toynbee.

  25. 25
    Uncle Si says:

    Dam and I was so looking forward to this decade!

  26. 26
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Good post. I’d call this giving aid and comfort to the Enemy of the People, but for the certainty that those who read it won’t understand it. Military Concepts are not a Lefty core value.

  27. 27
    The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

    Dismal Dave is a not so closet socialist, expect more of the same, though not so useless as McGabe and his woeful gang of shit.

  28. 28
    HSE says:

    Don’t forget more than 3 shakes at pee pee time counts as a wank when attempting a wankerthon and have you done a risk accessment?

  29. 29
    tat says:

    top boys blog will cripple every other blog in 2010. 2010 will be the year that all other blogs die when top boys blog is launched. you have been warned cripples. top boy has spoken.

  30. 30
    PMK says:

    The Left doesn’t exist anymore, and it is a real shame (no real debates, just idiotic ‘dividing lines’ and sound-bites left). Labour is a disgraced shell, with only the name remaining on a proud tradition.

    As someone on the left myself, I actually look forward to the next Tory Govt. as it will merely continue with the same Tory principles (with which Labour has governed since 1997), but will be open about doing so.

    The recent ‘Class War’ stuff from Crash Gordon is so counter-productive it is unbelievable. It will, if anything, lose him votes in traditional heartland areas, as people can recognise a liar and a cheat when they see one. They know they have been taken for granted while the prosperous South has been placated, and now Labour needs them again – and think shouting insults at the opposition is the best way to win them back – their remaining support will evaporate.

  31. 31
    oldfella says:

    agree with ABS here

    in fact hang all of them and have the trials afterwards

  32. 32
    AC1 says:

    And a 50% stake in AutoTrader.
    And a tax-avoiding Trust structure.

  33. 33
    Sick of tat says:

    Are you fuck, you mongoloid tramp bastard.

  34. 34
    MikeSC says:

    We’ll have to see how far the Tory blogosphere is taken seriously when they’re in government, the Tory right-wing blogs have been dominant while in the luxury of opposition- the Labour right-wing blogs (Rentoul and company) have had it hard.

    The left-wing blogs will likely gain with the Tories in- Labour’s policies may have more in common with Thatcher than Attlee but they’re still part of the left-wing mythology I suppose. The Tories can get in, continue with pretty much the same policies, and put the right-wing blogs on the defensive.

  35. 35
    AC1 says:

    Wow Delusional stuff.

    I’ll give you a quick clue.

    Socialism Kills.

  36. 36
    a bit older and wiser now says:

    thank you all for this blog in my day we didnt have anything like this and had to rely on msm i have found this blog fantastic and enlightening and now know where to come to understand whats really going on out there and have advised my kids to do the same happy new year keep up the good work…grumpy old lady…

  37. 37
    allan akhbar says:

    the left??????????

    just who are the left??????

    blair? mandy?
    sainsbury? myners? sugar?

    Dont make me laugh………
    what about darling? 5 homes stolen from..everyone…….
    ed (goe)balls and his gobshite ‘partner’ (in crime) yvette ‘the tories eat babies’.

    how much have those Hunts stolen?

    NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LEFTIES!!!!!!!

    they are vain attention seeking hypocrites that have hijacked a vehicle to use for their own ends…………nearly all have privileged backgrounds,with free education and conservative parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    none of them give a stuff about the poor….just filling up their own bank accounts and property portfolios………..isnt that right gordon?????????

    and they realised that there are enough thickos that vote ‘labour’ because of historical ties or have bought votes with over 1million govt. stooges on the payroll.

    none of the 3 major parties will EVER HELP JOE PUBLIC………..WAKE UP…….

  38. 38
    Brown Hater says:

    I think that a wrist assessment may be more appropriate!

  39. 39
    olo says:

    will your blog be coloured in or what?

  40. 40
    joe bonanno says:

    Tom Harris is earnest but not very bright.

  41. 41
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.labourlist.org/gordon-browns-new-year-message

    “The last 18 months have been difficult, and too many people were hit by a crisis that originated in the US housing market and then came rolling across the Atlantic towards us”

    They still don’t seem to understand that the line of “it’s all the americans’ fault, nothing we could have done. our economy has been run perfectly” is something that the electorate know to be total bullshit.

    A totally party political speech, paid for illegally by official number10 resources.

    Brown/Labour; you’re a bunch of lying negligent evil bastards who have destroyed this country’s economy even more than hitler did. You fucking bastards deserve to hang.

  42. 42
    tat says:

    1.55pm: you are banned from my blog. don’t even bother.

  43. 43
    Sick of tat says:

    coloured in like a dirty protest H block cell.

  44. 44
    concrete pump says:

    Have you thought of a blog title yet Thieves ?

  45. 45
    Brown Hater says:

    Good sharp insight!

    Was it Grant or Sherman that said something along the lines of… war is a brutal business; the more brutal you are then the quicker it’s over.

  46. 46
    Sick of tat says:

    tat. I’m banned? Lol. I’d sooner part your gypo arsecheeks and have my way with your well used hole than visit any retarded playschool blog your carers might create for you.

  47. 47
    tat says:

    like I said, don’t bother darkening my blogstep, you will not be allowed admittance.

  48. 48
    tat says:

    you’ll be turning up every day like a crackhead whore.

  49. 49
    Brown Hater says:

    In it’s various disguises it has killed millions thus far!

  50. 50
    Confused says:

    Question if I’m right-handed but every now and then I will use my left hand, does this make me unfaithful and therefore I will be dammed by the Lord?

  51. 51
    Sick of tat says:

    No tat. I’m not your mum.

  52. 52
    islingtonmike says:

    Surprised you missed out on Luke’s, tireless loyal supporter of the party line.

    Interesting if you really know what’s happening because he misses out the difficult bits which tells you what the comrade’s weaknesses are.

    Example: He’s completely blanked out the Brown character issue.

    I

  53. 53
    Ghoul says:

    I hope that Sunny Hundal’s crowing about Russ Limbaugh’s hospitalisation hasn’t attracted the evil eye to Sunny.

  54. 54
    Gerry Mandering says:

    NOT if you include the five million postal voters.

  55. 55
    Nick says:

    The critical part is to make sure the electorate realise how large it is, and what it costs them to service the debt, all of it, pensions included.

    A doomsday book of debt is part of it, and a labour tax to pay for it.

    If people see thousands if poor, tens of thousands if middle class going to pay for labour’s legacy, they won’t get a look in.

    The downside is that we might have to pay for police protection for lots of Labour MPs. However, exile Scotland might work.

  56. 56
    Nick says:

    Well, there is Frank Field, but he’s been on the expenses.

    Nick

  57. 57
    oldfella says:

    agree

    bliar and his sycophantic friends saw an opportunity and went for it in the mid90’s

    the opportunity was to get labour, rebranded new labour, elected; the means was to crush the opposition within labour not the conservatives and the outcome was personal gain for himself and illegal wars, police state and debt for the rest of us

    and up to now, he’s got away with it

    and most mps and peers are luxuriating in the wake of what has happened

    and you know what?

    they couldn’t give a fuck

  58. 58
    tat says:

    I love sausages.

  59. 59
    tat says:

    I know, my mum isn’t a crackhead whore.
    DOH!

  60. 60
    oldfella says:

    Can I just say that Sunny Hundal is a twat

    I’ve met too many people like him and his only interest is …… Sunny

  61. 61
    Labour Youth says:

    “Infantilist disorder” might be a hint at other interests.

  62. 62
    tat's mum says:

    Suck you off for ten quid? No? Five quid? I just need one more rock!! I’ll give up after one more rock!

  63. 63
    Technomist says:

    Who is Sunny Hundal?

  64. 64
    Uncle Si says:

    Just a thought I thought Nu lab was squint? How are they going to pay for the run up campaign? used bus tickets?

  65. 65
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    60 million postal votes
    inshallah

  66. 66
    Sick of sick of tat says:

    Pathetic.

  67. 67
    Sick of tat says:

    sick of sick of tat? Really? Good comeback there tat. You fucking spastic.

  68. 68
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    “As with all of the above media, it’s quality and popularity which will win through in the end. ” – Quote Ratsniffer!

    Ehh??? You trying to say it’s the quality of journalism that makes Aljabeeba 24 the most popular news-channel in Britain??

  69. 69
    The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

    “Re-evaluation and re branding of what Labour stands for”

    Social fascism or fascist socialism is what it has always stood for. Socialism in all its forms, is inherently doomed to eventual failure.

    ZaNuLabour tried under Bliar to hide its spots and convince the institutions that it was fit again for government, it has ended as it always would, in utter failure and viewed with contempt by the majority of the population.

    The best thing the Labour Party can do is fuck off and die in some hopefully desolate wasteland / heartland, surrounded by the deluded oafs who imagine that somehow millionaire looters or self serving liars “care” for their plight and only those very same looters and liars, can “lift” them out of their, usually self inflicted, circumstances.

    The lie is an old one, envy and class hatred, like racism, is an easy rallying point, self reliance and freedom from the state, somewhat more difficult, yet in the end, the more honest and beneficial of the two.

  70. 70
    UK Fred says:

    Surely the first cut in public sopending has got to be police protection for ZaNu Lie Baaah ex-MPs.

  71. 71
    Bill Murphy says:

    Good morning Britainistan

  72. 72
    tat says:

    I agree. and i love sausages.

  73. 73
    Anonymous says:

    Where is the constituency of Inshallah? must be a big one.

  74. 74
    Tom FD says:

    “The unpopular left-wing part of the blogosphere is convincing itself that 2010 will be the year they take off.”

    Just like they’ve taken every other year off.

  75. 75
    TwAT Twattery says:

    oh do fuck off

  76. 76
    Seasick Dave says:

    It happened on the Glasgow Herald as the ‘Labour minded journos’ didn’t like it up ‘em.

    Nobody visits the rehashed site anymore.

  77. 77
    Four eyes says:

    I don’t think that you heard me right – he’s a complete HOON.

  78. 78
  79. 79
    Piss Poor Politics says:

    Someone mentioned old Tat and Gypos, its just I need my drive re tarmac-ed any chance with all the spare time on your hands?

  80. 80
    Agent 99 says:

    take off for anywhere but here hopefully

  81. 81
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Bradford

  82. 82
    Mitch says:

    someone (not me) should work out how much of the world we could paper over with £10 notes out of Browns debt and stick it on billboards all over the UK.
    A giant globe covered in money would really get the message across….so come on davy boy grow a pair and put snotty out of our misery.

  83. 83
    Ratsniffer says:

    No, but they throw money at it (our money) to make it accessable, and easy to use. The BBC contorts the market being able to throw hundreds of millions of pounds creating and promoting their web services. But do people believe it all? I wonder.

  84. 84
    Ratsniffer says:

    I fear the boy dave’s nuts will remain pea sized – he is the heir to blair, ready to take on the mantle of the caring, sharing, huggy luvie left of centre NuTories. When what we really need is some tough ass-kicking, decision making strong leadership….

  85. 85
    The White Heather Club says:

    “However, exile Scotland might work.”

    Fat chance..the Scottish exiles currently in Westminster don’t!!

  86. 86
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    Are you going to ask Jonah to launch it? – If so I would expect much in the way of adsense revenue

  87. 87
    tat says:

    do you want your tiny skull crushed too? three years and counting of crushing tory troll skulls. you’ll be on my blog too, like a crackwhore.

  88. 88
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    Labour, socialism, trades unions nothing but traitors that destroy our pride and heritage.

    Away with the fuckers….AWAY!

  89. 89
    I'm At My Club says:

    They simply possess the tradesman’s mentality for cash.

  90. 90
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    A satisfied customer Guido, you should have her stuffed!

  91. 91
    Norman Tebbit says:

    I’ve been telling him that for about three years. Not much joy yet, I fear.

  92. 92
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Tat you’ve been publicising your new blog on this site for days, its all very well doing these things when you have time on your time during the Xmas school holidays but what about your A level studies this year Dave sorry I meant Tat.

  93. 93
    Upton Park-istan says:

    We’re not too far behind.

  94. 94
    Max says:

    Guido says: “Hopi Sen, Tom Watson and Tom Harris all write well, but are they really willing or able to put in the hours Dale does?”

    Well all I can say is that someone is putting in the hours on Tom Harris’ blog because I was modded/deleted this week for thanking another contributor for providing a source to a previous post of mine (in my absence because I was enjoying a hangover) and pointing out to some dur-brain Liebore fantasist that he should maybe question his own sources before questioning mine; especially so because his source was Prezza lying through his teeth re The Sun newspaper circulation figures and easily checked.

    No swear words, keywords and nothing contentious, I was modded off simply for pointing out that ZNL lies to its own people, just like every cult does (didn’t use those words). That was enough, I am now banished!

    [I only strayed on to read the article Guido was linking to re the class war; wouldn’t have bothered usually]

  95. 95
    tat says:

    don’t darken my blog or I will crush your tory troll skull. you are banned.

  96. 96
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    Blair, Mandelson and cohorts are typical lefties. They destroy democracy and render the public powerless, just like their communist cousins in the politburo.

    Just because they sip Champagne and live the high-life, don’t ever mistake them for capitalists. They use the money and yatchs of the state or their wealthy friends and like true communists never use their own.

  97. 97
    Max says:

    See my post at 92; Tom Harris “whatever”, but I was still redacted by the communist party machinery!

  98. 98
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Seriously when is it live and where is it?

  99. 99
    tat says:

    do not steal my name 1.34pm. you will be banned.

  100. 100
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    Hopefully Lord Paul will be inside and his assets sequestrated.

  101. 101
    tat says:

    you are banned. you do not need to know. tory trolls need not apply.

  102. 102
    School for Scoundrels says:

    The only way you could describe 2010 as being a good year for the left, is if you compare it to the year for the left in general.

  103. 103
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Please I promise to clean up after me!

  104. 104
    tat says:

    okay cripples. my party political independant blog is now live. you may visit. any tory trolls be warned though, I will still be crushing skulls.

    http://www.notwinks.net/

  105. 105
    Agent 99 says:

    Jack Straw provokes police fury by saying form-filling officers want to stay in ‘warm stations’

    ouch!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1239679/Jack-Straw-provokes-police-fury-saying-form-filling-officers-want-stay-warm-stations.html

  106. 106
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Please Dave I need a laugh, I promise to clean up after me!

  107. 107
    bandersnatch says:

    Don’t let the side down by changing your tactics under a right of centre government, will you Guido? Do just as you say in your script above. Carry on just as now, and lift the lid off every can of worms you turn up.

    “This blog? Guido plans to be in the same position, performing the same role under the next government as this one. ”

    Stick with it chap! Who knows, it might be even more exhilarating than running before the bulls… and twice as useful.

  108. 108
    Unsworth says:

    What is a sunny hundal?

  109. 109
    Hugh Janus says:

    “Brown will tax the middle classes out of existence and turn us into a debt ridden shithole.”

    You speak as if this will happen in the future….the debt-ridden shithole is well and truly here, and in some style may I say.

  110. 110
    R.McGeddon says:

    ‘The Online Left Thinks’.

    That is what is termed a rodomontade of equal foolishness to Gormless Gordon’s ‘decade of shared prosperity’.

    Rodomontade: it’s in Gordon’s D-N-A.

  111. 111
    Unsworth says:

    Excellent. Now will you fuck off?

  112. 112
  113. 113
    White feathered dad says:

    Labour appealing to its core vote;criminals.

  114. 114
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Ta

  115. 115

    Rumours of a new Left-leaning blog:

    LabourListless

  116. 116
    Max says:

    Jeez, at least here they’ve kept their clothes on:

    Thick As Thieves

    In fact rather reminds of the last Max family wedding…

  117. 117

    Fucking mentalist is more appropriate

    http://www.pickledpolitics.com/

  118. 118
  119. 119
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    If you had any charity within you, you would make it a sponsored wank!

  120. 120
    Max says:

    We’re all stuffed.

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    Engineer says:

    The Labour party is now irrelevant. The reasons for it’s formation – fairness for the working man and woman – have been achieved. Everyone has access to an education, everyone has the right to earn a place at University, so anyone prepared to put the effort in can do well for themselves. Everyone has access to healthcare, everyone over the age of 18 has a vote. There is equality of the sexes enshrined in law. Nobody argues that these things should be abolished or removed. Consequently, the Labour party is rather thrashing around wondering what it’s supposed to stand for, and coming up with spurious ‘dividing lines’ like the pointless class war.

    The one thing Labour has never really grasped is the importance of basic financial management – the nation not spending more than it earns, and working hard to earn its living. Until they grasp that, and practice it, they’ll only ever be a party of relatively short-term governments, periodically slung out by an electorate sick of being wrung dry.

  123. 123
    R.McGeddon says:

    Love Labour’s Losses – revised William Shakespeare comedy to be staged whenever Gordon has the courage to call a General Election.

  124. 124
    Max says:

    I’ve googled it:

    Sunny Hyundal

    Just been offered two grand for it at HM Govt Green Motors’R’Us.

  125. 125
    The Morris Dancing club of Engurland says:

    We are a bunch of pussies !

  126. 126
    gerry marsden says:

    you’ll never walk again…!!

  127. 127
    THION THIMON says:

    Guido,

    you forget that my friend, Tom, my friend Tom Waston – he’th a propper blogga….

  128. 128
    tats imaginary Blog says:

    tat, this blog of yours is a figment of your fevered imagination. Sausages !

  129. 129
    bobby vee says:

    like a rubber ball I’ll come bouncing back on you ououooooo

  130. 130
    Hugh Janus says:

    “There is a good chance the Labour blogosphere will be as much of a hindrance to the Labour Party in 2010 as it was in 2009…”

    Some good news then! And is it any wonder that this should be so when they try to exert such a rigid control over what is said on their blogs? When did you last read anything witty or challenging on a leftie blog? Until they drop their congenital hatred of free speech nothing much will change, in 2010 or beyond.

    The truth always hurts, and in the case of NuLiebour the pain would be completely unbearable after 12 years of the most apalling incompetence.

  131. 131
    James Thurston says:

    Yes, Sunny is a twat.

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  133. 133
    Hugh Janus says:

    How To Win Friends And Influence People – by Jackass Straw.

  134. 134
    AC1 says:

    One thing Socialism has never grapsed is Comparative Advantage.

  135. 135
    Anonymous says:

    Dont be so hasty they have still to achive full voting rights for children. They are more pliable to their brainwashing you see. The Childrens Parliament coming your way.

  136. 136
    Morrison senior trolleyman says:

    errr…no. I usually use two hands for wheeling my company vehicle. but I sometimes use my right hand for steering and the left hand for groping ladies, usually on the fresh vegetables isle. the left hand is also used for steering with the right hand delicately picking my nose.

    note: you have not been billed for this public announcement

  137. 137
    Anonymous says:

    Or post election Blog- “Labourlast”

  138. 138
    Not Einstein says:

    Total world surface approx (averaged not allowing for compression)
    510,072,000,000 m²

    Area of a 10 pound note =0.0074 x 0.0104cm = 0.0796m2

    Total owed 800 billion (ish) so say 80billion £10 notes

    80,000,000,000 x 0.0796 =6,368,000,000 m2 coverage of £10 notes

    or about 1/80th of the worlds surface or put another way

    United Kingdom area = 244,820 km2 so you cover the uk about 3000 times over with £10 notes

    I am sure someone with better maths may be more accurate or even point out any errors. Bear in mind this does not take into account the thousands of pounds increase every second servicing the debt. so add another hundred thousand to that coz maths I’m slow at working out.

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    Max says:

    Lest we forget.

    The man “in charge” of Digital Britain. Hand picked by the Gurning One.

  142. 142
    Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

    extremely boring posting by Forkes

  143. 143
    Frodo Mandelson and the Ring of Power says:

    Very nice tat – I shall be slipping in from time to time.

  144. 144
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Dave got me there the little tinker, is this part of your A level Media studies course?

  145. 145
    Class War says:

    I don’t like the colour.Too dark.

  146. 146
    Uncle Si says:

    very good! great name by the way

  147. 147
    Engineer says:

    TaT, if you ban everybody before your blog’s up and running, you might not get many hits…

  148. 148
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    I swear Straw is the ugliest fucker I have ever met.

    He has a terrible problem with halitosis and if you sit next to him on the front bench he has no contol over his bowels, slipping out subdued farts constantly. I’m certain he doesn’t know he’s doing it.

  149. 149
    Hugh Janus says:

    Not for much longer.

  150. 150
    Max says:

    Dave who? A Levels? Tell me more!

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    It was Sherman
    War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.

    but he also said

    There will soon come an armed contest between capital and labor. They will oppose each other, not with words and arguments, but with shot and shell, gun-powder and cannon. The better classes are tired of the insane howling of the lower strata and they mean to stop them.
    William Tecumseh Sherman

  152. 152
    Max says:

    Yep, rolling out universal 2mb by 2012. Can’t wait, that’ll take me up to 102mb. Will make a great difference. Not.

  153. 153
    Sex War says:

    Sunny may not realise this because he’s thick but to describe two men as hysterical(see OH link) is sexist.Ignorance is no defence.Sunny Boy is a hate criminal.

  154. 154
    Hugh Janus says:

    “There is a good chance the Labour blogosphere will be as much of a hindrance to the Labour Party in 2010 as it was in 2009…”

    No question 41. Now, if you can find a way of convincing the idiotic 28% who still seem to think that NuLiebour is a good idea….

  155. 155

    And another good one of Sherman’s

    I think I understand what military fame is; to be killed on the field of battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers.

    We’ll never forget you Jane Gruddy

  156. 156
    Max says:

    You’re only going to scrap it! Who cares what colour? You do scrap them don’t you? They’re not going out in containers to the Chinese to recycle are they? Are they?

  157. 157
    Hugh Janus says:

    Sorry, made a complete balls of that….

    “Brown/Labour; you’re a bunch of lying negligent evil bastards who have destroyed this country’s economy even more than hitler did. You fucking bastards deserve to hang.”

    No question 41. Now, if you can find a way of convincing the idiotic 28% who still seem to think that NuLiebour is a good idea….

  158. 158
    BillyBob ... reduce crime, national debt and carbon footprint, stop immigration? Every little helps! says:

    Looking forward to seeing the faces of the marxist excrement when the cameras catch them losing their seats …… another one bites the dust !!

    But, I also have my suspicions that the traditional Election Night TV might just be cancelled, to save money of course!!

  159. 159
    Cyn Kinship says:

    LabourListsmore

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    tat says:

    Do not steal my name.
    You will be banned from my lovely bedsit.
    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

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    Uncle Si says:

    That 28% are the idle 2 million Glass Backs who haven’t worked for the last 10 years because Nu Lab have let them, its not in their interest to vote against Nu Lab.

  162. 162
    Engineer says:

    Whatever way you work it out, it’s a lot of paper, so a lot of dead trees, so proving that huge debts are not carbon-neutral.

  163. 163

    13 years isn’t very short term Engineer.
    Lets try and keep them to 4 year maximums in future.

  164. 164
    Bingo Wings says:

    rat tat tat tat!

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    Mr Slater's Parrot says:

    U-UUUURRRKK!!! (splutter) (choke) THICKASTHIEVES!! THICKASTHIEVES!!! (snigger) OOZEAPRETTYBOYZEN!!! ARRRRWWKK!!!

  166. 166
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Dam did I say Dave, I meant to say Tat he will be cross, but I’ve been his priest for the last 18 years, he is such a lovely lad and a very good soprano. We will miss him in Church so much once he has completed his studies and goes on his gap year, digging wells in sunnier climes.

  167. 167
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Gary ‘War Nerd’ Brecher Rules OK!!! The rest is standard-fare Chomskeyised crud.

  168. 168
    Bill Murphy says:

    And you are most welcome to it.

  169. 169

    You only get the 2 grand when you trade your old NuLabourite Hyundal in for a New E-Communist model.

    The DaiHundal has only two seats in the front.{no one should be left in the back} Left hand drive only. Has Sap Nav and electrode seats is an option on the Rendition model.
    Only available in Blood Red or Weepy Willow Green.

  170. 170
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Get on with it then. TaT… Chop chop.

  171. 171
    The Admiral says:

    EEEEEEEEEuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwggggghhhhhhhhhhhh spit…

  172. 172
    Confused says:

    True Story ….I did a bit of retail work for a bit and was zooming the security camera on a pretty girl’s bits one day, when her boyfriend noticed the camera following her, he went mad big time started smashing up the place !!!!! happy days

  173. 173
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Digging wells? I bet TaT wouldn’t know how to use a pick-axe. Or even one’s handle, except in his fantasies.

  174. 174
    thick as thieves says:

    it is not a popularity contest for me engineer.
    it is all about the number of skulls I can crush.
    ps. you’re banned too.

  175. 175
    thick as thieves says:

    I haven’t even gone live with my blog and yet I have got the new labour war trolls on the fucking run.
    they are scared of the great thick as thieves and they have good reason to be: they are grendel’s mob, and grendel brown will soon be dead and so they will be dead too for they are nothing without brown’s black magic spells to protect them.
    and when brown is destroyed and his henchmen lynched and torn apart by the angry crowds the people will cheer and shout with delight and hold impromptu street parties and enjoy life as it was before the evil scottish beast, grendel brown and his thug followers came down from his lair in scoterland to terrorise the English.
    soon we will be free from the monster.
    soon grendel brown will be dead.
    I will do my part.
    ps. 3.06-3.28pm thief if you steal my name again I will smash your troll head into the pavement until you and the tarmac are one.
    no joke.
    you new labour warmongering scum are drowning in shit.
    it is time for your heads to be pushed under and for scum like you to be exterminated. for the greater good.

  176. 176
    thick as thieves says:

    SAC, the above poster is not me. it is some cripple from new labour HQ.
    fucking desperate stuff innit?

  177. 177
    thick as thieves says:

    your banned you c’unt. no new labour scum allowed, ‘fraid.
    and despite the scuppering campaign being run by the dullards at new labour HQ, thick as thieves site will not be going live until the new year.
    end of statement.

  178. 178
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Two cyclops and Blunkett
    No fucking wonder only ugly women join the Labour party, its the only way that they can get a fuck, unless its with a dyke armed with a strapon

  179. 179
    Lord Im a pillow biter and take it up the shitter from boys says:

    Laugh if you like ,but with my steady hand upon McJonahs tiller we will triumph

  180. 180
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    Dam you mean I’ve been Trolling the wrong Tat, how are we supposed to tell who’s the real one is and when & where do you go live! the last one sent me to a site with men doing things with their thingies

  181. 181
    P*ss Poor Politics says:

    And there’s always that surprised and then relieved look he gets when he realises he hasn’t followed through!
    Take that either way ,bowel movement or Nu Lab U turn ,much the same!

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    Engineer says:

    True – the economic hole is deeper this time because we’ve been daft enough to let them stay in government for longer. Let’s hope the general population has learned the lesson – but I must admit, I’m not too convinced about that. There are still far too many rather blinkered lefty drones sucking from the teat of public money, and living in the delusion that the government can do and pay for everything.

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    Engineer says:

    Have you decided which year?

  184. 184
    Brown Hater says:

    He had it about right Bill. Seems to be a reasonble sort of guy?

    Thanks for the info.

  185. 185
    I'm At My Club says:

    The achievement of fairness, et cetera, for the lower classes was actually achieved by Mrs Thatcher, not the national insurgency of TUC militancy.

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    Watt Tyler says:

    In addition to blogging, the Left are very adept in the forces of terrorism:

    (2009) New Labour David Miliband M.P. -PARASITE AND SUPPORTER OF TERRORISM

    http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/2009-new-labour-david-miliband-m-p-parsite/

    That’s right, people, the British Army is carrying out the orders of a government within which are supporters of terrorism.

  187. 187
    The voice of Justice says:

    Sunny Hundal is a Hunt.

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    Guido's Conspiracy Central says:

    some of those fuckwits are so far gone they think there will be death camps under Van Rumpy Pumpy

  189. 189
    Budgie says:

    If tat keeps banning people from his new site he will soon be into negative readership figures.

  190. 190
    Budgie says:

    tat’s blog: it’s window lickin’ good.

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    Bloggers delude themselves every year says:

    if 2009 proved one thing it was that an old fashioned Newspaper Scoop can still cause a political earthquake wheras blogging can at best cause a minor rumble with the political classes turning round and wondering who farted.

    But Guido and the bloggers know this in their hearts, in fact Guido whether subconsciously or not, described blogs perfectly.

    “it isn’t going to win any votes and is a tool, not a means. Forget it.”

    What goes for Twitter goes for the blogs.

    I mean it’s sweet that bloggers think the universe revolves around them, it really is, but Coulson is a press man and so was Campbell and that isn’t a co-incidence. Neither was Coulson’s hilarious snubbing of bloggers as he showed exactly how seriously he rates them. The Parties will use blogs if they feel like it but 9 times out of 10 the Political Leaders use em to try and appear “in touch” and with it with their own cringeworthy efforts of WebCameron and Browntube and it’s usually just after they are mocked for doing so they round on the PR spads who thought it was a great idea and ask them how many people that actually reached?

    I dip in and out of blogs to see how certifiable the fringes of each Party are. After the Election no doubt the left ones wil be fit to be tied as they purge the worst Brownites and shit on the worst Blairites.
    But not even the most deluded Conservative blogger thinks there will be a 97 landslide for Cameron anymore, so if it’s tight, and particularly if it’s really tight, there will soon be a war on Camerons home front as he struggles to keep every single Eurosceptic tax cutting climate denying rebel in line as he has to slash spending and put taxes up while trying to keep his centrist Eco Dave who isn’t stuck in the past about Europe PR image going.

    Bloggers are always far more comfortable just attacking things and shouting at them than defending or coming up with solutions. That won’t change after Cameron gets in either.

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    George Osborne's Anal Beads says:

    My hands firmly on Dave’s tiller as we speak

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    Budgie says:

    Actually a tenner is sized 74mm x 142mm = 0.074m x 0.142m = 0.010508m2, where m = meter.

    If the UK land area really is 244820 km2 this equals 244820 x 10^6 m2. So 80 billion (10^9) £10 notes (= £800 billion) would cover the uk:

    (0.010508m2 x 80 x 10^9)/(244820 x 10^6 m2) = 0.0034337 times.

    Sorry.

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    Engineer says:

    Be fair – the McBride Smeargate episode did rock the political establishment, and blogs did have quite a bit of leverage with the ongoing Expenses saga.

    If you read this blog regularly, you’ll know that many people post references to reports and comment in other media – television, radio, newspapers – so blogging is an additional source of information, not a substitutional one.

    Another advantage of this blog is that it is known that all the main political parties monitor it, and many senior politicians read it when they can. I can think of no other way for an ordinary member of the general public, not particularly politically active but passionate about his country, can get his thoughts and opinions seen by such people other than by posting them here. It’s good fun too – Guido lets us have a bit of a laugh, which is all too often missing from most political comment, and he doesn’t moderate too heavily (so it is free speech) unlike many other blogs.

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    Engineer says:

    Budgie – it’s New Year’s Eve – what on earth are we doing working out the area of ten-pound notes? Sad, or what?

    Have a glass of something cheering!

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    Engineer says:

    P.S. I’ve checked the sums, and I think Budgie’s right.

    I’m off for a glass of something now.

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    I'm At My Club says:

    Brown’s an absolute stinker, a rotter!

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    I'm At My Club says:

    He’s an absolute stinker, sir!

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    I'm At My Club says:

    You’ll come to a sticky end…

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    Gordon Brown stole my pension says:

    Every tosser who supports Dave “Stupid Empty-Headed Socialist” Cameron says this. “Oh, Dave will show his true colours once he’s been elected. Just wait and see, he’ll trounce those Socialists. Yeah. He’s just pretending not to have any policies in case Labour steal them.”

    No he fuckin isn’t. No he fuckin’ won’t. Dave Cameron is an empty headed wanker. He woke up one morning and found himself leading a party. Just like Blair. Does he have a clue what to do? No, he f*cking doesn’t. Just like Blair.

    Dave “Cast iron guarantee” Traitor will be a wreck. VOTE LABOUR. Let Brown suffer the ignominy of calling in the IMF. Let Labour be cast into Hell for 20 years. Let the Conservatives rid themselves of the Cameron disgrace and come to power in 2011 with a proper leader. One who, unlike Dave Cameron, isn’t shit beyond belief.

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    Herr Honiker says:

    It already is – and worse.

    I spent the afternoon reading New Labour’s planning laws – regional planning boards, city regions, local partnerships, statutory instruments, Secretary of State powers to do wtf he wants. Britain has turned into a soviet state and no-one noticed.

  202. 202
    Gorbachev says:

    Exactly right.

    Anyhow, Common Purpose is running the country now, not any elected politician.

  203. 203
    Mandy Rice David Davies says:

    Bet you can’t manage it with both hands tied behind your back….!

  204. 204
    John Berk Ow says:

    Did you take advantage of yourself while focussed on her bits? Or did you just LYAO?

  205. 205
    I Not at Your Club says:

    Again

  206. 206
    Bresniev says:

    It’s worse than that – it has infected al te main parties and the country is actually run by a stasi-like alliance of smug hgihly-paid quangocrats.

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    Anonymous says:

    That self-hooning hoon can do press-ups with both hands tied behind his back.

  208. 208
    Anonymous says:

    “The reasons for its formation – fairness for the working man and woman – have been achieved…”

    And now they’ve been torn asunder and destroyed. Thanks, snotty!

  209. 209
    terence patrick hewett says:

    Fair point BDTEY but it seems to have been the ONLY newspaper scoop since pa fell off the tram. Newspapers have given up on campaigning journalism and it has been the blogosphere that has made the running.

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    udderly 'orrible says:

    “debt ridden shithole”
    – thought snotface had already done that, can it get worse?

  211. 211
    udderly 'orrible says:

    First Law of Doomsday Debt UK – NO police protection ever for any Labour MP/Minister.

    Second Law of Doomsday Debt UK – All Labour MPs contacts and addresses to be published on the New Nuremberg Economic Sabotage Trial website, with a very special section for the cabinet ministers.

    Treason and betrayal deserve no pity or protection.
    Let them walk in fear for the rest of time.

  212. 212
    John Snell says:

    Can’t wait for the next Tory disaster. Vote for no change Dave. We are all in it together. Except some of us will be more in it than Dave and Ozzie.

  213. 213
    danny_daz says:

    well said, the nearest to free speech one can have, in economic region 7

  214. 214

    […] political blogger Guido Fawkesmade an interesting observation the other day that the Left are once again saying that 2010 will be …in a run up to an election and beyond.    As he points out, they’ve also said this in 2007, […]

  215. 215
    Labour Peir says:

    The left will never gain any meaningful advance online until there is a Tory government.

    The reason?

    Everyone hates the government (i.e. the government at any given time).

    The best move for Labour is to let the Tories get in.

  216. 216

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