Ver Are Your Papers?
In a gaffe worthy of Nicola Murray and the DoSaC team from the The Thick of It, the stasi-esque titled Identity Minister, Meg Hillier, turned up to an ID card unveiling in Liverpool without her ID card. As the Liverpool Post reports:
The former journalist and mother patted herself down and checked her handbag for the missing card before putting the slip-up down to the demands of looking after her baby. She then posed in front of the city’s landmark Liver Buildings alongside the vast River Mersey without her card.
What a fantastic advertisement for those simple and effective cards that make life and travel so much easier. Hillier was there to encourage residents of the North West to take up the scheme but in one cock-up has summed up just how pointless it is. This non-entity Minister should lose her job as well as her identity card.
Point missed Guido: this was a visit to LIVERPOOL so it went the same way as her hubcaps.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Inquisition=Scouser
Man City = Dubai
Dubai? Not Abu Dhabi? Hmmmmmmm
PAPERS!!!! PAPERS!!!!! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!!!!!
VE KNOW VER YOU LIVE!!!!!
*as spittle flies into unfortunate targets face*
So let me get this straight, she was taking the train all the way from London to Liverpool, just for a PHOTO OP? And she forgot her card?
Haven’t these guys heard of photoshop?
Classic NuLabour written all over it.
Yet more proof that women are best suited to ironing shirts, looking after babies, doing the washing and cleaning and making dinner, rather than the important business of fiscally raping the wealth creators in order to create a nation of Morlocks.
On one level this simply illustrates the abysmal quality of leadership in this government; but on another it shows just how impractical these ID things are going to be.
If a minister specifically on her way to promote these bloody things can leave the damned card at home, how does she think the rest of the population are going to fare?
“ID, please, citizen. What’s that? You’ve left it at home? That’s a likely story.
“We’d better take you down to the station to check your DNA against the database then.
“No don’t worry, citizen, it’ll only take about 24 hours then you’ll be free to go on your way. Unless we discover you have outstanding transgressions that is.”
Horray!
FANTASTIC!
This shows how stupid a scheme this is, criminalising millions of people for walking around without some artificial, state-imposed papers.
If you want to travel somewhere, you get a passport – it’s a trade-off for a service.
If you want to drive, you get a licence – it’s a trade-off for a service.
If you want to get a bank account, you get a bank card – it’s a trade-off for a service.
BUT A COMPULSORY CARD JUST TO PROVE THAT YOU EXIST???!!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Really? Where have you been since 1997?
Prison, actually
Not long now until we join you then
Browns official Xmas card
No10, hanging by a thread
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/6826082/What-politicians-Christmas-cards-say-about-them.html
And thrown out on the dump in January
Classic!
Whoever authorised this, and the hand written letter, and the youtube gurning is the only No10 staffer who deserves a bonus
Keep up the good work!
great spot!
Festive red piano wire.Auguri.
Analysts say the absence of people shows Brown lacks the human touch
Perfect OH!
A plastic soon-to-be-packed-away bauble, hanging from a load of pricks with lots of red Balls clustering around and hoping to stay in the bunch for as long as possible…
Hedgehogdiplomacy – rather like Nopenhagen – depicted here; roll up and stick your pricks out…
cacti find muc in loans
adolf *hillier would be so proud (*see what i did there…..! )
and “the inq”……seen the state of the country ??? its bee “governed” by labour
the mess has nothing todo with the conservatives…..you wanker
Inquisition = Wanker
(And a very boring one too)
I don’t understand this story. Why would a Scouser want an ID card?
To ensure the court convicts the right person!
To sell in the pub to an illegal immigrant, stoopid
Labour = Incompetent women MPs.
Labour = incompetent MP’s
Jacqui Smith: I wasn’t at all prepared or qualified to be Home Secretary!
Re: Malcom Tucker freaks out! CLASSIC!!! PMSL!
I am now very confused. Gordon has just told Boulton that the money to save the world is coming from the private sector…Does he mean taxation
Just met Hillary Clinton. Her support for the 100bn figure should help us shift the dynamic.
-Gordon Browns Twitter
Also said it was time to get cards on the table.
What a farce, playing whist.
“Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me…”
Live on Radio 5
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8418158.stm
Whist?
Just met Hillary Clinton. Her support for the 100bn figure should help us shift the dynamic.
If he truly believes that then he’s an even bigger twat than we’ve suspected so far. The Septics have form for pledging big money to worthy causes then forgetting to send the cheque.
Partly, I suspect it’s because they like to show off. More importantly, as I understand it, Uncle Sam can’t spend money unless Congress says he can. Barry and Hillie can make as many promises as they like; if it’s not yet approved spending and the honourable representative from Pig Knuckle, Arkansas don’t like the deal, he and his chums can scupper it toot sweet on the floor of the House.
Whatever, Brown’s truly a gullible moron if he believes Hilary’s “promise” is worth anything.
The BBC has backed down.
Defendant
My Lord, on behalf of the BBC I accept everything my friend has said. The BBC withdraws the allegation that deaths, miscarriages or serious or long-term injuries were caused by the waste and apologises to Trafigura for having claimed otherwise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8417913.stm
Claimant
My Lord, it only remains for me to request leave that the record be withdrawn.
Carter-Ruck BBC Litigation Department
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8417913.stm
Libel: BBC backs down on Trafigura report
17 Dec 2009
The BBC has today withdrawn claims made on flagship news programme Newsnight that oil-trading company Trafigura caused deaths in the Ivory Coast after toxic waste was dumped there. in a settlement designed to head off a potentially massively expensive libel case, the BBC will make a small donation to charity at Trafigura’s request.
While other sources, including the British government, claimed that Trafigura’s actions had caused deaths in Abidjan, the Ivory Coast’s largest city, Newsnight was unable to independently verify the claim.
Sources at the BBC say the corporation faced up to £3 million in legal costs if it defended the case against Trafigura.
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/12/libel-bbc-backs-down-on-trafigura-report/
Thanks to the efforts of Messrs Carter-Ruck, there are now millions of people who are firmly (even if quite wrongly) convinced that this Disfiguram company has poisoned thousand of people in Ivory Coast, where previously they would have ignored the story altogether. Good work, chaps!
It gives the c00ns something to eat anyway
But the simpletons in that meeting did not turn the screws on her. They should ahve turned her away for not having a valid and easily identifiable identity document. Then she would feel like a tight ar*e and know what it will be like when New Labour decide to make random people “non-people” for refusing the SS ID cards.
There was nothing random about the way in which Himmler’s victims were chosen: they arose logically from the twisted racial ideology of Nazism.
Wikipedia, in unusually lucid form, cites:
“.. some six million Jews, between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma, many prisoners of war, and possibly another three to four million Poles, communists, or other groups whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live or simply “in the way”, including homosexuals, people with physical and mental disabilities…”
Citing the Labour party in this context is exceptionally poor taste, however much one might detest them.
Happy Chanukah.
Fuck off foxy,
The current incumbents of the global order are trying to create a system that will cause death on a scale that will make Hitler’s look like a children’s picnic.
When Brown, Obama and co get done with the Climate Change legislation, we in the west will be taxed into oblivion to pay to kill hundreds and hundreds of millions of people through starvation and through cold. food and fuel are set to be hit BIG TIME.
These evil bastards are going for a global genocide. Fuck your measly 6 million Jews, this is going to be global and billions are going to die.
“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
- Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
- Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor
“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.”
- Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind
“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
- Prof Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb
“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
- Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund
“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
“The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
- Christopher Manes, Earth First!
“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
- David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
When Hitler killed 10 million, he was labelled a monster. Environmentalists wants to kill BILLIONS they give them the Nobel Peace Prize.
You’re quite right to point out that Labourites are not like Nazis.
The Nazis killed communists, for example.
Labourites, on the other hand, have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Foxy,
I think you are right; evil shites that they were, at least Heinrich’s lads worked to a plan. A better analogy might be Comrade Stalin’s NKVD.
Apparently at the height of the purges NKVD offices would simply be mailed monthly quotas of the number of “enemies of the state” they were expected to arrest. These targets were then met by the simple expedient of grabbing the requisite quantity of bodies.
From all we’ve seen of NuLabour and the apparat it has created my guess would be that this is the way of the future.
“……a visit to LIVERPOOL so it went the same way as her hubcaps.”
same old boring fucking stereotype – wanker
You have obviously never parked in Sunderland, the car crime capital of Europe.
Parked? To lose your hubcaps in liverpool you just have to drive under 30mph.
Its the Fourth Sector innit !!!!
‘This non-entity Minister should lose her job as well as her identity card.’
Not long now!
Dunno – she seems a bit over qualified to be a Labour minister – no one died or lost their job.
Even with an identity card……who is she?.
Exactly… one rule for them…
When they are compulsory, it’d be a fine/jail for not carrying it – no excuse that you have a busy lifestyle.
Maybe if we all got to spank her then she can keep her job.
It worked for me
Of course there’s one law for them and another for the proles:
When caught without her compulsory ID Card you can expect any NuLab ministerial bimbo to immediately throw a hissy fit and scream: “Don’t you know who I am?” at the offending Fingerman.
Guido, stop attacking schemes that will make us all safer….
Explain to me, why, exactly, this government demanding that I submit to an invasive cataloguing of my personally distinguishable marks and requiring me to carry around a document to identify myself to the Police State whenever it requires improves my safety.
It does not improve my safety. It violates my privacy. And sets us on a dangerous road where the end result is ‘guilty until proven innocent’.
If you’ve ever lived with ID cards then you’ll know that “safe” is the wrong word. As above it is total surveillance no more no less.
Three words:
Mobile phone
Internet
Several more words:
You
Are
An
Unintelligible
Fuckwit
Mobile phones and the internet are not compulsory, as these cards will be if our oh so esteemed so called rulers have their way.
You are a prize fuckwit Parts.
Some other words:
Mobile Phone – PAYG, cheap, use it for a bit and then throw it away
Internet – anonymisers, proxies; cyber cafes; wifi war driving
In other words, if you don’t want to be tracked, then use your head.
ID cards are a different thing altogether.
Papieren, bitte! Schnell, schnell!
‘Don’t say Thank you’
Ah yes, talk about safety cameras…
It used to be the prerogative of the gods to be virtually in 3 different places at once. With nu layber’s virtual ID database, once your details have been stolen, you too can find yourself in 3 different places at once and spending your own real money.
Never happen you say? Indeed not, while the data readers and terminals are imaginary. Which is exactly why there is definite demand for ID cards in Manchester and Liverpool. Private enterprise will ensure these are quickly cloned and made available to the yoof at a tenner each, so ensuring our nation’s yoof may safely continue drinking in the usual manner.
Now piss off fuckwit.
I have today sent the Identity Minister a sample of my DNA
What’s an “Identity Minister”?
And is “Meg” a name?
Only hen preceded with “Nut”
or an ‘S’
So very funny!
not the bloody turkey baster again!
Are you feking serious, so-called hard working briton? Or are you another Millbank desk jockey – in which case your postname is somewhat ironic.
There is no proof whatsoever that supports the lie that ID cards will make this country safer. None.
For once in your life get the shit out of your eyes and ears and stop being the sock puppet of this disgraced Administration.
Animal, me thinks you missed the joke somewhat. get back behind your drumkit until you learn about sarcasm
ah, so the new labour trolls are posting stupid comments under stupid names like hard working briton(what sort of a dick would call themselves that?) and when a real reader pulls them up on what a stupid comment it is the new labour trolls say “don’t you know what sarcasm is?”
pathetic and weak propaganda. useless. totally bloody useless.
the new labour government is falling apart in front of our eyes.
what a shower of shit.
Lets face it not many people are going to have any humour left after being affected by this government for over the past decade.
Humour is luxury only the party faithful protected from the real world can enjoy.
Hard working North Briton
Do you mean the sarcasm so subtle it isn’t actually there?
Pull your pantaloons back up from round your ankles, piggy knickers.
Martin Bishop, an accountant from Peterborough, said: “In our house we have a strict timetable. Homework, supper and then wine tasting from 8pm until about three in the morning. After that it’s two or three brandies and then it’s straight off to bed.”
He added: “My 12 year-old has had to give up trumpet lessons until he can talk me through the finer points of a Semillon Chardonnay from the Bergerac area of the southern Dordogne. That boy will learn even if I have to take a stick to him.”
Bill McKay, an architect from Doncaster, said: “It does sound as if he’s talking shit again. Not only that, but he’s ignoring the vitally important point that drunk children are much funnier and more interesting.
“Most of the time my 15 year-old is a miserable, self-absorbed little tit. But give him three glasses of Cloudy Bay and he’ll do an incredibly bad Shakin’ Stevens impersonation. It’s better than Midsomer Murders.”
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2317&Itemid=81
There is only one valid reason for ID cards at this time….the chaos caused by immigration both ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’.
The ‘records’ our new citizens submit (or not) are of overwhelming confusion…multiplicity of birth certificates, marriage documents etc in every language and script under the sun, that ID cards is the only way to standardise and facilitate their trouble-free access to benefits.
ID is the price to be paid to get some ‘control’ over entitlement transfers.
Why do you think that only 30 years are required now for a full state pension.
It was 44 years or 39 for a woman.
Average age of immigrant male circa 28 to 33.
They only have a shade over 30 years ‘working’ or ‘benefit’ drawing credits before they become ‘pensioners’.
How do ID cards help with that, though? If what you’re saying is that the ID card will have all that information in a handy easy to read form then fine as far as it goes, but the information still has to come from somewhere in the first place and be verified somehow before it can make it on to the card. So the benefit must be marginal at best.
We appear to have a minister for absolutely everything these days. The inverse rule applies – the more we have the bigger the shambles. Oh for slim, streamlined, inexpensive governmemt. It’s not going to happen of course because the political class is in charge and it’s jobs for the boys now, wherever you look.
We await a “Minister For Nothing (much)”
When these millions of public sector jobs do eventually get weeded out,the jobless will be over 6 million.
We are dooooomed.
Haven’t we still got “Ministers without portfolio”?
Hi I’m the Minister for Fuck All .
That’s simply not true
We do appear to be quite numerous under NuLabour
True, but very necessary.
That is all.
A few of my better efforts.
The budget cuts now means that the Minister for Walking on cracks in pavements and the Minister for booing at the London Paladium will be amalgamated to become the Minister for Booing New Pavements or BNP.
To reduce costs the new ministry for BNP will be based in Bradford.
I could not agree more -who has “real” accountability for anything anymore?? It’s all down to blaming some one else whilst keeping the snout in the trough. We are really in the “poo” & we cant seem to see a way to get out of it
Well of course, it fits the govt agenda for rights and responsibilities. A minister is responsible for whatever, in order to massage the public angst. In return I get the right to claim a better place at the trough.
remember to wash your hands dearies
Hey! Stop trying to muscle onto my turf sunshine.
Identity Minister – fuck off bitch!
Gordon Brown -the one-eyed monster: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/2009-new-labour-unelected-p-m-gordon-brown-parasite/
Pah!, humbug!
New ID cards are supposed to be ‘unforgeable’ – but it took our expert 12 minutes to clone one, and programme it with false data: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/new-id-cards-are-supposed-to-be-unforgeable-but-it-took-our-expert-12-minutes-to-clone-one-and-programme-it-with-false-data/
If the ID card / database is unforgeable, how will the UK’s spies continue having their multiple identities? New Labour don’t want to tell you that, because they are lying to joe / jane d1ckhead Labour voter about the ID card database and DNA database.
Finger, here’s a clue: the spies are part of the state and the state issues the ID cards. Even if the cards are unforgeable it does not mean that multiple copies cannot be made.
Guido, you don’t say if she was allowed in or not
Quality incompetence.
Hey at least she’s getting *some* press – this total non-event would have got zilch otherwise.
Can these incompetents get anything right, ever? When carrying ID cards is compulsory will the excuse of too busy looking after a baby be considered valid for a member of the general public? Of course not, one law for us and no laws applied to them.
This country is in an increasingly poor state and for the first time in 28 years I feel that violent revolution is not impossible to imagine.
So why would anyone buy an identity card voluntarily, and just how many people have been recruited, trained, housed in new offices, expensed, salaried, private health cared, pensions set up etc. to issue, change, monitor these cards.
Which failure to carry around if Labour get in for a record 4th time (Thanks to Postal Votes) will of course carry swingeing penalties. It is like night following day. The Bastards.
Not just postal vote fraud but ballot box stuffing if the overnight counts are cancelled as THEY are proposing on the grounds of ‘efficiency’. We are sliding into an authoritarian, one party state. God help us.
I ‘ll watch newsnight to see if they are keeping an eye on things….yawn
….Which is a very opportune moment to remind everyone, particularly members of nulab, that it was on this day that the Ceausecu’s , were taken out by the people and summarily shot.
Why wait until summer before shooting,it will be much too hot,close to boiling?
Lets do it now.
Direct Democracy in action
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
Tell you what thought. Old Ceausescu may have been a murderous tyrant, but when the end came, he bollocked out the fellers running the kangeroo court, and said right then, “just shoot me” AND his missus then said “and you can shoot me by his side”. Can you imagine Brown doing that? Can you imagine his missus doing that?
A bad life – no doubt about that – but a good death. I hope I have balls enough to tell the guy with the Ak to go fuck himself.
Romanians have blood in their veins, the British have cold tea, to be polite.
Uh ? … Meg Hitler … ? … Ohh, no Meg HILLIER … whew
Hilary Clinton has morphed into Peggy Mitchell!!
No, Meg Hilter!
Nein, nein …
You both have it wrong … it is Hister … get it HISTER.
It was Anonymous’s responsibility to make sure … after our Reichmarks were cut … thank you to our central bankers (including Byoir), I have your names in my little black book … to wind down and destroy our gene experiments, including that of xxx10666/HIST/M. (The dot is not part of the nitrogen cell naming btw. where this particular experiment was deposited.)
We of NaziULab were most concerned that we tracked ALL records.
In fact we have compiled a compete document of EVERY contribution that Anonymous has made to this particularly insidious and subversive site and will make sure that anybody that ridicules us will … erm … yes … ‘pay the price.’
Oh, yes … we salute Fuhrer (Nick) Brown … full of instinctive leadership.
So there …
(P.S. Can we come out now … I here (from spies) … that it may be OUR TIME … and the bogs are full and we’re running out of baked beans … and some of us really need to take a piss …)
hasnt she got fucking driving licence then?
wot a twot she probably doesnt even know who she is now she has lost her card. I’ll tell you what I am losing. The will to live in this shithole anymore
“hasnt she got fucking driving licence then?”
Unfortunately that is irrelevent. It is not the identity the jobsworth want to check, it is the ID card. This is the problem.
When we have compulsory ID cards and you go to get a prescription, or a doctor’s appointment, you could have every identity document you have, but if you don’t have your national ID card you will not get the service. The reason is that only your national ID card will have your unique ID number (the key into your National ID database record) and without that number you are not treated as being a citizen.
On 10 December, there were 15 local council byelections across the nation. The average swing away from the Tories in these votes was 6.5% and the swing to Labour 6.9%, in most cases since May 2008. At Weymouth, the swing away from the Tories was 30%. At Nuneaton in what you call “the electorally decisive Midlands” (Old Labour resurgence, December 15), the swing to Labour was 17%. The Tories gained no seats. An independent gained one, the Liberal Democrats three and Labour four, one of these from the Lib Dems and one from the BNP. Such numbers as these would more convincingly illustrate your front-page headline, “Labour back in race”, than the theoretical evidence of opinion polls.
Keep grasping at those straws!
I remember an impressive list of 10 “real” council by-elections in 1997 that convinced the tories that they would win that general election too. Large swings to the tories in these polls were cited as proof that the media was hyping a false swing to labour in the opinon polls.
The tories were thrashed anyway. People vote a lot differently in local by-elections (with a 20% turnout) than they do in national polls!
Gives a whole new meaning to “window dressing”
Hillier is useless. She’s my MP and doesn’t even reply to letters. I always think that’s the least you should be able to expect.
i’ve got 2 babies so presumably i will never be expected to carry an id card. well done love.
Shut up whinger.She’s got a baby to look after.You men make me sick.
Well you should spit not swallow then !
Don’t send her letters. Send her Anthrax
The scouse postmen will only steal it O-H.
Oh oh men in uniform…
No she’s totally incompetent, the one job she has is to appear with the id card, and she blew it. That should be a nokia with a p45 wrapped around it for her.
In the real world, imagine if you turned up to do an important presentation to clients.
Oops sorry I forgot it….must have been distracted by my family this morning…..anyway it’s really good.
You lose credibility, lose the sale and the very least get a bollocking
P45 and out the door these days
I’ve just been diagnosed with leprosy.
I’m in bits.
Hillier used to claim that she had been in the merchant navy, but I doubt if she could find her way from one side of the Mersey to the other.
So she’s a semen lover then?
It was most of the Merchant Navy that had been in Hillier, IIRC.
I represent that information … and I’ll see you in court … or possibly some where else … any suggestions, big boy
I understand the I.D. cards are being trialled in Manchester, roll up… roll up and pay up. Can someone tell me if this is such a fantastic idea (nothing to fear nothing to hide) why have our Labour M.Ps and Police not set an example and enrolled?, ditto DNA.
NOTHING TO FEAR, NOTHING TO HIDE.
And the chances of seeing her embarrassed fumbling on the BBC, the same way it would make headline news if a tory did it, are about the same as Liverpool winning the Premiership this year.
Non-Identity Minister = Non-Entity Minister
Said the non-entity.
Still haven’t heard you disagree that The Honourable Gordon Brown is the worst PM this country has ever had, presiding over the worst Government ever
For fucks sake,what is Dave playing at ????
A first class Hoon
Tory leader David Cameron will today visit an area of the country that was devastated by flooding on a “Biblical” scale.
Parts of Cumbria was thrown into chaos after more than a foot of rain fell in 24 hours, sweeping away bridges, roads and power lines and forcing hundreds of people from their homes and businesses
Is he checking up on how many bridges have not been repaired by Brown’s inability to use the Army to aid the civil powers.
Tories on the slide, the tide has turned.
And yet this bunch of useless creatures still think they are fit to govern! Remarkable!
Incidentally, they seem to resent anyone trying to tell them anything…
Lib Dem MP appeals ‘fine’ Ministers don’t like input of Prince Charles (how sad for them!) Supreme Court in bonkers ruling, latest war crime news and how food waste campaigners could put your child at risk
Their whole attitude was captured by Tony MacNullentity on Daily Politics.
It’s not just expenses they don’t get, include Honesty, Economy…
We are in a financial crisis, and this government create 23,000 public sector jobs in the last 3 months, their attitude is clear FFS
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6827619/Triple-the-pay-rise-in-public-sector-official-figures-show.html
I was amazed that the charmless thug had the chutzpah to turn up to a review of the year, given his record on expenses.
Well if you don’t want ID cards vote Conservative at the next election!
Is that a fact? What is the latest on the Tory position vis-à-vis ID chips, sorry cards?
Indecently most of the posts on ID cards, rightly, warn of the massive amount of intrusion into our private lives, the restrictions on our liberty, and the potential for control over our lives by the state, but in my opinion that is only half of the story as they should be viewed as being like the Scottish monsters infamous PPP’s or PPI’s. in so much as capitol will have its half of our lives. I’m referring to the likes of all the big multinational (global) Insurance companies and banks, supermarkets, the soon to come private hospitals and clinics, the drug companies, not to mention the green industries, and so on. In short all our financial transactions will be directed through our chip and consequently also through the state; the whole picture is complex and has been a long time in the making and cannot be reduced to simple populist ideas like immigration and crime (incidentally one way our oppressors have been trying to sell them is that it will combat ‘identity-theft’, a fu’king sick joke as in true Orwellian terms it is precisely our identity that THEY will be stealing). No, woolly headed twerps who imagine ID cards are going to be like little brown folded pieces of card similar to the ones issued during the 2 WW need to wake up to the realities of electronic information.
opps ‘Incidentally’
Indeed. Cameron will scrap the labour proposals, and implement the same proposals when they come from the EU, because he will not have the power to stop ID cards being forced on us from the EU.
Only UKIP will prevent them.
ONLY THE TORIES CAN PREVENT 5 MORE YEARS OF BROWN THOUGH
TOUGH DECISION HUH?
New Labour = The Comedy Gift that keeps on giving
Breaking News
“The latest figures from the Student Loans Company suggest 28,000 people from England are still waiting to receive their loans and grants.”
And they started their courses back in September while our troughing bastardo MP’s keep on stealing our money.
I can tell you that one of my kids is still waiting for his loan to come through.
Gasp – shock – horror – Al Jebeeba accidentally tells the truth.
Another example of an ugly posh bird becoming a socialist (qv Harriet Hardon, Polly Toynbee, Margaret Hodge) – let’s face it, if they were better looking they’d have married Old Etonians and spent their lives usefully raising litters of kids with names like Hugo and Camilla…….
So!
So….if your mum is well bred, privately educated but a tug boat (see previous examples) she might now be the Minister for Smoking Cessation Delivery Targets or something and be REALLY BOSSY
My MP is called Hugo…he doesn’t give a sh*t about his constituents, but at least he isn’t Labour
My MP is called Mohammed….he doesn’t even speak English but at least he isn’t Tory.
My MP is named Gerard, but is known as Numpty.
sorry, forgot Tessa Jowell
best thing to do if you can manage it
Stupid bitch, the whole thing should have been cancelled as we can’t be sure who she is without her ID card. Her website states ‘Meg has also worked to highlight inequalities in mental health’ – so thats probably how she met Gordon and got her job!
The only highlighting Hillier does involves a pen on lots and lots of paper to make her feel important.
Do they want us all to be as mental as them? Is that what they mean? FFS
exclaimed the raving lunatic.
takes one to know one
the raving lunatic’s boyfriend declared.
I’ve never heard of her. In an age of public sector cut backs, here’s one ministerial salary and office expenses we can all agree to stop.
Weren’t they intending to make it a criminal offence to be without your ID card?
Answer me this, someone : if you’re homeless and living on the streets and have no money, you sure as hell aren’t going to be able to get an ID card. So what’s the plan ? Are the police going to go round shooting such people ? Is that the one-eyed one’s idea of eliminating poverty ?
Will they have special card issuing machines in maternity wards?
The thing they don’t tell the five people in Manchester who volunteered for the ID card trial is that in the small print there is a requirement for the holder to have the details updated on it every time circumstances change. And a £1,000 fine if you don’t update it.
Also- what kind of nutter would volunteer to have a file opened on them by this shower of shyte?
True. It is the responsibility of the card-holder to keep the 57 (and counting) seperate pieces of personal information up-to-date. The card-holder will have to pay to have the card updated with the latest data and will face a £1000 fine for non-compliance. EVEN if errors are on the card due to the mistakes of the card issuing agency. So if you give them the correct information and they get that wrong on your card, you will have to pay again to correct it or face a £1000 fine.
Look, you’re all missing the obvious explanation. The real Meg Hillier is locked up in a basement somewhere, and the person who turned up to the ID card unveiling is an imposter. The fact that she didn’t have an ID card should have alerted everyone to that immediately.
She clearly needs to be locked up until the real Meg Hillier is found.
You mean the ‘not real’ Meg Hillier could be a … gasp … a terrorist …
‘Nuff said … I call for 90 days detention until this matter gets sorted.
World leaders arrive in Copenhagen – just seen John Prescott being interviewed – in his capacity as exactly what? I must have missed the speech he is talking about – “Gordon Brown’s brilliant speech”.
There’s talk that Obamah Beach won’t attend tomorrow.
Yeah, and Brown has already given Gore a quickie in a broom cupboard.
I’m not sure about that. Brown was smiling, while Gore kept his mouth tightly closed – waiting to find somewhere to spit, perhaps?
She should have had a quiet word with James Purnell. He could have given her some tips on how to get the ID card into the pictures after the event…
To Andy.
Yes sir,they don’t call Purnell the hospital man for nowt.
Id cards must have been a great sucess in Manunia and these idiots are hoping to sell a load of these things in Liverpool,ps, wrong city and wrong people to try and sell crap too.
This is very disappointing. We have made a huge investment in the relevant technology for producing ID cards and our clients in Pakistan, Libya and Sudan will be very displeased.
The armbands will be next to mark out what group we are designated part of.
As Ayn Rand said, the only difference between a welfare and a police state is a matter of time.
In which book? Atlas Shrugged?
Im all in favour of ID cards for Scousers
Build a big wall around the place(and Jockland, wales & Tyneside) and keep the fuckers trapped behind a big wall
I didn’t think NuLab drones actually had individual identities. I thought they were like the Borg. “We are NuLab. Resistance is futile.”
I am pro-torture.
Tory morale crumbling.
My party tortures detained combatants.
Labour party membership non existant.
Tell us, how does it feel to support a Government that serves only itself and treats the citizens of this country like fools?
Do any of your precious polls show this Government to be the first choice for a majority of people? Nope. But hey, that doesn’t fit in with your publicly subsidised posts so you won’t want to mention that of course.
Are you fucking serious?
At least the tories have some morale to crumble.
Labour MP’s are still on suicide watch!
She failed to present her papers. I hope she was wrestled to the ground, sprayed in the face with CS gas, taken into custody, put in the cells until her identity could be verified, given an on the spot fine and her DNA taken.
Don’t be stupid, didn’t you know that there is one law for them and one law for us?
There are two ladies in the picture above, which one is Meg Hillier?
the one who looks like friar tuck.
the one of the left
I see no ladies. I see two old bags.
you pesky troll
I D cards are a waste of time, but ddin’t Darling imply that the scheme would be dropped in favour of biometric passports.
The state should be our servant not our master.
But perhaps this wonderfully useless minister would like to tell us how many people in Manchester have bothered to volunteer to hand over money to have one of these highly desirable objects.
The ID card is illiberal, regressive and a tax on all of us. A pox on Gordon Brown and his snooping lackeys.
The former journalist and mother patted herself down and checked her handbag for the missing card before putting the slip-up down to the demands of looking after her baby.
And this excuse would work for an ordinary member of the public found to be without their ID card, then? No. Of course it wouldn’t.
Just imagine if she had to look after a baby and had a REAL job.
No I.D. card, Mizz Hillier, come with us please, we need to make further enquiries.
You will be charged with failure to produce a valid I.D. Card when requested, a fixed penalty of £150-00 will apply, your driving licence and passport will be taken away for a period of 90 days and you will be required to report to your local council reporting centre twice a week for a period of 90 days.
You have a child?, well social services will be advised of this failure and your abject failure to comply with basic law. This may mean your child being taken into care as you represent a risk to that child. If you cannot comply with the law then you may well be a bad parent and not have the better interests of your child(ren) at heart.
Do you have any means of proving who you claim to be.
No, ahh, well that means we will have to take DNA and your fingerprints and search the National Database.
You will please sign here, its a caution and acceptance that you have committed an offence, you will, there is no alternative.
Thank you, now please step this way for processing and leave your personal effects here, you won’t need them where you’re going.
Open the shower doors, the prisoner will just step inside and strip please. It’s all for processing madam.
Thank you and goodbye.
That will make the bastards carry their cards for the future.
Heh heh.
Next……
I will guarantee this does not apply to pikies; only the law abiding, tax paying, decent, hard working families
So stop working hard, obeying the law and paying taxes then
It ain’t rocket science. As long as we are part of the system, the system works. Take us away and they’re fucked.
I have opted out of the lousy public health system, the hopeless schools, the inefficient public sector – you name it.
Hard to opt out of PAYE, IHT, Council Tax
Wish it were possible to opt out of everything this hopeless, useless country has to “offer” (read compulsorarily use).
And to thin people out there are stupid enough to want to vote for some idiot like Brown and his ignoramus henchmen (read henchpeople for the pc brigade)
and what happens if you lose your ID card? what do you do, stay at home until the new one is sent out or be arrested for not showing it when asked? and will replacement cards be sent by secure post or will we have to collect new ones? and what if criminals claim they are us and say they have lost the cards. will they send them to the address of whoever claims lost the card or will they send it to the latest address on the database.
it is a complete mess innit.
just like everything else the new labour party does.
gordon brown is the person pushing ID cards. when brown is dead ID cards will be dead.
good.
I’ll lend u mine if u loose urs tat.
These must be the two least attractive women in London today.
Have a lovely afternoon and Guido try posting some real totty.
Our Great Leaders in this Government are about as much use as chocolate fireguards !!
Eyesight’s not all it was, but did you say Meg Hitler??
Actually, the beauty of this story has just dawned on me. In 10 years’ time when the Stasi pull me over demanding I.D. I will simply refer to this story. And they will laugh and say “Thank you, you’ve made us realise what a foolish waste of time and money this whole I.D. database exercise was. It only serves to let us spy on and control the population, and therefore has no positive value in a liberal democracy. Is there any way that we can help you? No? OK, then we’re sorry to have wasted your time. Please feel free to carry on about your business.”
Nah, only kidding! We’re fucked people, unless we tell the tossers where to shove it.
Aha … another one for Nick Brown’s little black book …
Brown
is a clown butt
Hillier
is sillier
I notice she/he/it:
# Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war.
# Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
A typical Nu Liebore token sock-puppet shemale. These all-shemale candidate lists have been a disaster for Britain. They have generated a hideous retarded gang of corrupt conniving shemales in government, that are no better than chocolate pigs.
Yes … just like our local MP … Natascha Engel … a perfect product of the NuLab clone experiment.
After a year of writing … by me … without responses … in the light of the expense exposure … she finally came clean … after trying to assert that she and her family ‘lived’ in NE Derbyshire.
She has now said that ‘when’ she leaves the constituency she will donate all that expensive stuff she bought, shod most of ‘value’ out of the doors (characterized as one of the most extravant of the 2005 induction) to charity.
Well wup… ti … do
Here’s to your £30-00 a piece champaign flutes Natascha, as you celebrate Christmas … there are kids on the streets here and oversease that would like to have a piece of this action …
Oh, yeah … I should add this … in her ‘comming clean’ … she’s still not said what she’s going to do about Capital Gains Tax since clearly, before the scam has been broken-up, taxpayers money was being used to give them a ‘property portfolio.’ (There’s lots of bleating on her ‘new’ website about their ‘remortgaging’ of property so that they could ‘invest’ £200 000 pounds in an apparently ‘derelict’ property in NE Derbyshire so she should be ‘part of the community.’
Anybody want to buy that bridge over there … going cheap …
I can completely understand why she forgot her ID card – it serves no use whatsoever
Apart from the pigs with their snouts in a trough and in our pockets … you are right … best wishes on seasons as they go …
mibi she did what I intend to do to mine if ever forced to carry one – 30 seconds in the microwave on high
Posed many times outside Liver bldgs.
Once in 1940, and then ????
Our U-Baots access the Murkey?
I vote for Nicola Murray.
She should have been puinshed there & then for not carrying one. A typical punishment I recommend…..hmmmm
Is this true? An ‘Identity Minister’ called Meg Hitler. Sorry, Hillier.