December 17th, 2009

Ver Are Your Papers?

In a gaffe worthy of Nicola Murray and the DoSaC team from the The Thick of It, the stasi-esque titled Identity Minister, Meg Hillier, turned up to an ID card unveiling in Liverpool without her ID card.  As the Liverpool Post reports:

The former journalist and mother patted herself down and checked her handbag for the missing card before putting the slip-up down to the demands of looking after her baby. She then posed in front of the city’s landmark Liver Buildings alongside the vast River Mersey without her card.

What a fantastic advertisement for those simple and effective cards that make life and travel so much easier. Hillier was there to encourage residents of the North West to take up the scheme but in one cock-up has summed up just how pointless it is.  This non-entity Minister should lose her job as well as her identity card.


  1. 1
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Point missed Guido: this was a visit to LIVERPOOL so it went the same way as her hubcaps.

  2. 2
    ian e says:

    ‘This non-entity Minister should lose her job as well as her identity card.’

    Not long now!

  3. 3
    hard working briton says:

    Guido, stop attacking schemes that will make us all safer….

  4. 4
    Hugh Janus says:

    We appear to have a minister for absolutely everything these days. The inverse rule applies – the more we have the bigger the shambles. Oh for slim, streamlined, inexpensive governmemt. It’s not going to happen of course because the political class is in charge and it’s jobs for the boys now, wherever you look.

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    Dick the Prick says:

    Dunno – she seems a bit over qualified to be a Labour minister – no one died or lost their job.

  7. 7
    The Inquisition says:

    Financial misconduct = Conservatives

  8. 8
    Zamanfer Cameron says:

    Pah!, humbug!

  9. 9
    Watt Tyler says:

    New ID cards are supposed to be ‘unforgeable’ – but it took our expert 12 minutes to clone one, and programme it with false data:

  10. 10
    Koba says:

    Guido, you don’t say if she was allowed in or not

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    NotaSheep says:

    Can these incompetents get anything right, ever? When carrying ID cards is compulsory will the excuse of too busy looking after a baby be considered valid for a member of the general public? Of course not, one law for us and no laws applied to them.

    This country is in an increasingly poor state and for the first time in 28 years I feel that violent revolution is not impossible to imagine.

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    backwoodsman says:

    ….Which is a very opportune moment to remind everyone, particularly members of nulab, that it was on this day that the Ceausecu’s , were taken out by the people and summarily shot.

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    Uh ? … Meg Hitler … ? … Ohh, no Meg HILLIER … whew

  14. 14

    hasnt she got fucking driving licence then?

    wot a twot she probably doesnt even know who she is now she has lost her card. I’ll tell you what I am losing. The will to live in this shithole anymore

  15. 15
    Swinger says:

    On 10 December, there were 15 local council byelections across the nation. The average swing away from the Tories in these votes was 6.5% and the swing to Labour 6.9%, in most cases since May 2008. At Weymouth, the swing away from the Tories was 30%. At Nuneaton in what you call “the electorally decisive Midlands” (Old Labour resurgence, December 15), the swing to Labour was 17%. The Tories gained no seats. An independent gained one, the Liberal Democrats three and Labour four, one of these from the Lib Dems and one from the BNP. Such numbers as these would more convincingly illustrate your front-page headline, “Labour back in race”, than the theoretical evidence of opinion polls.

  16. 16
    No Champions League says:


  17. 17

    Gives a whole new meaning to “window dressing”

  18. 18
    Private Parts says:


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    Steve says:

    Hillier is useless. She’s my MP and doesn’t even reply to letters. I always think that’s the least you should be able to expect.

  20. 20
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Quality incompetence.
    Hey at least she’s getting *some* press – this total non-event would have got zilch otherwise.

  21. 21
    The Decameron says:


    This shows how stupid a scheme this is, criminalising millions of people for walking around without some artificial, state-imposed papers.

    If you want to travel somewhere, you get a passport – it’s a trade-off for a service.

    If you want to drive, you get a licence – it’s a trade-off for a service.

    If you want to get a bank account, you get a bank card – it’s a trade-off for a service.


  22. 22
    jdennis_99 says:

    Explain to me, why, exactly, this government demanding that I submit to an invasive cataloguing of my personally distinguishable marks and requiring me to carry around a document to identify myself to the Police State whenever it requires improves my safety.

    It does not improve my safety. It violates my privacy. And sets us on a dangerous road where the end result is ‘guilty until proven innocent’.

  23. 23
    Dave Cameron says:

    I’ve just been diagnosed with leprosy.

    I’m in bits.

  24. 24
    i'm bloody freezing says:

    i’ve got 2 babies so presumably i will never be expected to carry an id card. well done love.

  25. 25

    Really? Where have you been since 1997?

  26. 26
    Harman says:

    Shut up whinger.She’s got a baby to look after.You men make me sick.

  27. 27
    The In Quizz attention! says:

    Man City = Dubai

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    streamfisher says:

    I understand the I.D. cards are being trialled in Manchester, roll up… roll up and pay up. Can someone tell me if this is such a fantastic idea (nothing to fear nothing to hide) why have our Labour M.Ps and Police not set an example and enrolled?, ditto DNA.

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    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    And the chances of seeing her embarrassed fumbling on the BBC, the same way it would make headline news if a tory did it, are about the same as Liverpool winning the Premiership this year.

  30. 30
    The IMF is coming says:

    Non-Identity Minister = Non-Entity Minister

  31. 31
    streamfisher says:


  32. 32
    Scouse says:

    I don’t understand this story. Why would a Scouser want an ID card?

  33. 33
    Johnathan Aitken says:

    Prison, actually

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    VEE6 says:

    If you’ve ever lived with ID cards then you’ll know that “safe” is the wrong word. As above it is total surveillance no more no less.

  36. 36
    Gordon Brown says:

    For fucks sake,what is Dave playing at ????

    A first class Hoon

    Tory leader David Cameron will today visit an area of the country that was devastated by flooding on a “Biblical” scale.

    Parts of Cumbria was thrown into chaos after more than a foot of rain fell in 24 hours, sweeping away bridges, roads and power lines and forcing hundreds of people from their homes and businesses

  37. 37

    I have today sent the Identity Minister a sample of my DNA

  38. 38
    Sir Trev Skint MP says:

    Labour = Incompetent women MPs.

  39. 39
    Anonymous says:

    Hillier used to claim that she had been in the merchant navy, but I doubt if she could find her way from one side of the Mersey to the other.

  40. 40
    IMF Backs Brown on Stimulus says:

    Said the non-entity.

  41. 41

    Don’t send her letters. Send her Anthrax

  42. 42
    Slipping in the Poles says:

    Tories on the slide, the tide has turned.

  43. 43
    Private Parts says:

    Three words:

    Mobile phone


  44. 44
    Effrum the ratarded rabbit says:

    Well you should spit not swallow then !

  45. 45
    The IMF is coming says:

    Labour = incompetent MP’s

  46. 46
    Trees a crowd says:

    And thrown out on the dump in January

  47. 47
    Thats News says:

    And yet this bunch of useless creatures still think they are fit to govern! Remarkable!

    Incidentally, they seem to resent anyone trying to tell them anything…
    Lib Dem MP appeals ‘fine’ Ministers don’t like input of Prince Charles (how sad for them!) Supreme Court in bonkers ruling, latest war crime news and how food waste campaigners could put your child at risk

  48. 48
    Road_Hog says:

    Papieren, bitte! Schnell, schnell!

  49. 49
    V for Vendetta says:

    Several more words:


  50. 50
    Spend it like Gordon says:

    Jacqui Smith: I wasn’t at all prepared or qualified to be Home Secretary!

  51. 51
    The IMF is coming says:

    Still haven’t heard you disagree that The Honourable Gordon Brown is the worst PM this country has ever had, presiding over the worst Government ever

  52. 52
    Financial Incontinence=Labour Pains says:


    Whoever authorised this, and the hand written letter, and the youtube gurning is the only No10 staffer who deserves a bonus

    Keep up the good work!

  53. 53
    Browned off says:

    We await a “Minister For Nothing (much)”

    When these millions of public sector jobs do eventually get weeded out,the jobless will be over 6 million.

    We are dooooomed.

  54. 54
    Minister for Walking on cracks in pavements says:

    That’s simply not true

  55. 55
    Live from the balcony,Bucharest says:

    Why wait until summer before shooting,it will be much too hot,close to boiling?

    Lets do it now.

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    Minister for booing at the London Paladium says:

    We do appear to be quite numerous under NuLabour

  58. 58
    Ding dong says:

    The scouse postmen will only steal it O-H.

  59. 59
    DG says:

    Well if you don’t want ID cards vote Conservative at the next election!

  60. 60
    TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

    Dubai? Not Abu Dhabi? Hmmmmmmm

  61. 61
    Deputy Vice Minister for booing at the London Paladium says:

    True, but very necessary.

    That is all.

  62. 62
    Celebrity Squires says:

    New Labour = The Comedy Gift that keeps on giving

  63. 63
    Brian JA says:

    I could not agree more -who has “real” accountability for anything anymore?? It’s all down to blaming some one else whilst keeping the snout in the trough. We are really in the “poo” & we cant seem to see a way to get out of it

  64. 64

    What’s an “Identity Minister”?

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    The IMF is coming says:

    ‘Don’t say Thank you’

  67. 67
    From the BBC (so take it with a pinch of salt) says:

    Breaking News

    “The latest figures from the Student Loans Company suggest 28,000 people from England are still waiting to receive their loans and grants.”

    And they started their courses back in September while our troughing bastardo MP’s keep on stealing our money.

  68. 68
    I love Shami says:

    Another example of an ugly posh bird becoming a socialist (qv Harriet Hardon, Polly Toynbee, Margaret Hodge) – let’s face it, if they were better looking they’d have married Old Etonians and spent their lives usefully raising litters of kids with names like Hugo and Camilla…….

  69. 69
    TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

    So very funny!

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    Animal says:

    Are you feking serious, so-called hard working briton? Or are you another Millbank desk jockey – in which case your postname is somewhat ironic.

    There is no proof whatsoever that supports the lie that ID cards will make this country safer. None.

    For once in your life get the shit out of your eyes and ears and stop being the sock puppet of this disgraced Administration.

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    Financial Incontinence=Labour Pains says:

    Their whole attitude was captured by Tony MacNullentity on Daily Politics.

    It’s not just expenses they don’t get, include Honesty, Economy…

  72. 72
    I love Shami says:

    sorry, forgot Tessa Jowell

  73. 73
    Little Black Sambo says:

    And is “Meg” a name?

  74. 74
    Colonello Pazzo Valerio says:

    Festive red piano wire.Auguri.

  75. 75
    Confused of Engerland says:

    I am now very confused. Gordon has just told Boulton that the money to save the world is coming from the private sector…Does he mean taxation

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    Kezza the Hat says:

    Stupid bitch, the whole thing should have been cancelled as we can’t be sure who she is without her ID card. Her website states ‘Meg has also worked to highlight inequalities in mental health’ – so thats probably how she met Gordon and got her job!

  77. 77
    Animal says:

    So she’s a semen lover then?

  78. 78
    TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

    So why would anyone buy an identity card voluntarily, and just how many people have been recruited, trained, housed in new offices, expensed, salaried, private health cared, pensions set up etc. to issue, change, monitor these cards.
    Which failure to carry around if Labour get in for a record 4th time (Thanks to Postal Votes) will of course carry swingeing penalties. It is like night following day. The Bastards.

  79. 79
    Sam Hart says:

    I’ve never heard of her. In an age of public sector cut backs, here’s one ministerial salary and office expenses we can all agree to stop.

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    Hugo & Camilla says:


  81. 81
    Disco Biscuit says:

    Weren’t they intending to make it a criminal offence to be without your ID card?

  82. 82
    Minister for Window Licking says:

    Well of course, it fits the govt agenda for rights and responsibilities. A minister is responsible for whatever, in order to massage the public angst. In return I get the right to claim a better place at the trough.

  83. 83
    Herr Grupenfeuher Ed 'Steamer Club' Von Copperballs says:



    *as spittle flies into unfortunate targets face*

  84. 84
    Hugo & Camilla says:

    Only hen preceded with “Nut”

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    The Entire Labour Party together as one says:

    Not long now until we join you then

  86. 86
    Capt Con O'Sullivan says:

    The thing they don’t tell the five people in Manchester who volunteered for the ID card trial is that in the small print there is a requirement for the holder to have the details updated on it every time circumstances change. And a £1,000 fine if you don’t update it.

    Also- what kind of nutter would volunteer to have a file opened on them by this shower of shyte?

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    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Look, you’re all missing the obvious explanation. The real Meg Hillier is locked up in a basement somewhere, and the person who turned up to the ID card unveiling is an imposter. The fact that she didn’t have an ID card should have alerted everyone to that immediately.

    She clearly needs to be locked up until the real Meg Hillier is found.

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    Animal says:

    The only highlighting Hillier does involves a pen on lots and lots of paper to make her feel important.

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    fruitcake says:

    Oh oh men in uniform…
    No she’s totally incompetent, the one job she has is to appear with the id card, and she blew it. That should be a nokia with a p45 wrapped around it for her.

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    The Decameron says:

    So let me get this straight, she was taking the train all the way from London to Liverpool, just for a PHOTO OP? And she forgot her card?

    Haven’t these guys heard of photoshop?

    Classic NuLabour written all over it.

  91. 91
    I love Shami says:

    So….if your mum is well bred, privately educated but a tug boat (see previous examples) she might now be the Minister for Smoking Cessation Delivery Targets or something and be REALLY BOSSY

  92. 92
    BBC says:

    The BBC has backed down.


    My Lord, on behalf of the BBC I accept everything my friend has said. The BBC withdraws the allegation that deaths, miscarriages or serious or long-term injuries were caused by the waste and apologises to Trafigura for having claimed otherwise.

  93. 93
    Socialist twats always giving away others money says:

    Just met Hillary Clinton. Her support for the 100bn figure should help us shift the dynamic.

    -Gordon Browns Twitter

  94. 94
    fruitcake says:

    My MP is called Hugo…he doesn’t give a sh*t about his constituents, but at least he isn’t Labour

  95. 95

    Direct Democracy in action

    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.

  96. 96
    RestandBthankful says:

    World leaders arrive in Copenhagen – just seen John Prescott being interviewed – in his capacity as exactly what? I must have missed the speech he is talking about – “Gordon Brown’s brilliant speech”.

    There’s talk that Obamah Beach won’t attend tomorrow.

  97. 97
    Cacti Cumin Finds Loan says:

    cacti find muc in loans

  98. 98
    Carter Ruck says:


    My Lord, it only remains for me to request leave that the record be withdrawn.

    Carter-Ruck BBC Litigation Department

  99. 99
    TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

    Do they want us all to be as mental as them? Is that what they mean? FFS

  100. 100
    The IMF is coming says:

    Also said it was time to get cards on the table.
    What a farce, playing whist.

  101. 101
    miss piggys pantaloons says:

    Animal, me thinks you missed the joke somewhat. get back behind your drumkit until you learn about sarcasm

  102. 102
    Minister for wiping bottoms says:

    remember to wash your hands dearies

  103. 103
    Andy says:

    She should have had a quiet word with James Purnell. He could have given her some tips on how to get the ID card into the pictures after the event…

  104. 104
    Anonymous says:

    Haven’t we still got “Ministers without portfolio”?

  105. 105
    Index on censorship says:

    Libel: BBC backs down on Trafigura report
    17 Dec 2009
    The BBC has today withdrawn claims made on flagship news programme Newsnight that oil-trading company Trafigura caused deaths in the Ivory Coast after toxic waste was dumped there. in a settlement designed to head off a potentially massively expensive libel case, the BBC will make a small donation to charity at Trafigura’s request.

    While other sources, including the British government, claimed that Trafigura’s actions had caused deaths in Abidjan, the Ivory Coast’s largest city, Newsnight was unable to independently verify the claim.

    Sources at the BBC say the corporation faced up to £3 million in legal costs if it defended the case against Trafigura.

  106. 106
    Inamicus says:

    We are in a financial crisis, and this government create 23,000 public sector jobs in the last 3 months, their attitude is clear FFS

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    lolol says:

    Id cards must have been a great sucess in Manunia and these idiots are hoping to sell a load of these things in Liverpool,ps, wrong city and wrong people to try and sell crap too.

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    Kezza the Hat says:

    Yeah, and Brown has already given Gore a quickie in a broom cupboard.

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    Wombat says:

    My MP is called Mohammed….he doesn’t even speak English but at least he isn’t Tory.

  110. 110

    Martin Bishop, an accountant from Peterborough, said: “In our house we have a strict timetable. Homework, supper and then wine tasting from 8pm until about three in the morning. After that it’s two or three brandies and then it’s straight off to bed.”

    He added: “My 12 year-old has had to give up trumpet lessons until he can talk me through the finer points of a Semillon Chardonnay from the Bergerac area of the southern Dordogne. That boy will learn even if I have to take a stick to him.”

    Bill McKay, an architect from Doncaster, said: “It does sound as if he’s talking shit again. Not only that, but he’s ignoring the vitally important point that drunk children are much funnier and more interesting.

    “Most of the time my 15 year-old is a miserable, self-absorbed little tit. But give him three glasses of Cloudy Bay and he’ll do an incredibly bad Shakin’ Stevens impersonation. It’s better than Midsomer Murders.”

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    The IMF is coming says:

    In the real world, imagine if you turned up to do an important presentation to clients.

    Oops sorry I forgot it….must have been distracted by my family this morning…..anyway it’s really good.

    You lose credibility, lose the sale and the very least get a bollocking

  112. 112
    Gennady Ivanovich Ripov says:

    This is very disappointing. We have made a huge investment in the relevant technology for producing ID cards and our clients in Pakistan, Libya and Sudan will be very displeased.

  113. 113
    Anonymous says:

    Mobile phones and the internet are not compulsory, as these cards will be if our oh so esteemed so called rulers have their way.

    You are a prize fuckwit Parts.

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    Raving Loon says:

    The armbands will be next to mark out what group we are designated part of.
    As Ayn Rand said, the only difference between a welfare and a police state is a matter of time.

  115. 115

    The budget cuts now means that the Minister for Walking on cracks in pavements and the Minister for booing at the London Paladium will be amalgamated to become the Minister for Booing New Pavements or BNP.

    To reduce costs the new ministry for BNP will be based in Bradford.

  116. 116

    Yet more proof that women are best suited to ironing shirts, looking after babies, doing the washing and cleaning and making dinner, rather than the important business of fiscally raping the wealth creators in order to create a nation of Morlocks.

  117. 117
    Anonymous says:

    Analysts say the absence of people shows Brown lacks the human touch

  118. 118
    buzzbee says:

    not the bloody turkey baster again!

  119. 119
    labour is a cancer on society says:

    Not just postal vote fraud but ballot box stuffing if the overnight counts are cancelled as THEY are proposing on the grounds of ‘efficiency’. We are sliding into an authoritarian, one party state. God help us.

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    tat says:

    ah, so the new labour trolls are posting stupid comments under stupid names like hard working briton(what sort of a dick would call themselves that?) and when a real reader pulls them up on what a stupid comment it is the new labour trolls say “don’t you know what sarcasm is?”
    pathetic and weak propaganda. useless. totally bloody useless.
    the new labour government is falling apart in front of our eyes.
    what a shower of shit.

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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Im all in favour of ID cards for Scousers
    Build a big wall around the place(and Jockland, wales & Tyneside) and keep the fuckers trapped behind a big wall

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    Sir William Waad says:

    Thanks to the efforts of Messrs Carter-Ruck, there are now millions of people who are firmly (even if quite wrongly) convinced that this Disfiguram company has poisoned thousand of people in Ivory Coast, where previously they would have ignored the story altogether. Good work, chaps!

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    Sir William Waad says:

    I didn’t think NuLab drones actually had individual identities. I thought they were like the Borg. “We are NuLab. Resistance is futile.”

  124. 124
    Sir William Waad says:

    I’m not sure about that. Brown was smiling, while Gore kept his mouth tightly closed – waiting to find somewhere to spit, perhaps?

  125. 125
    tat says:

    exclaimed the raving lunatic.

  126. 126
    Wombat says:

    In which book? Atlas Shrugged?

  127. 127
    Meg Hitlier says:

    I am pro-torture.

  128. 128
    Wombat says:

    P45 and out the door these days

  129. 129
    Private Parts says:

    Tory morale crumbling.

  130. 130
    Lookalike says:

    Hilary Clinton has morphed into Peggy Mitchell!!

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    Kevin T says:

    She failed to present her papers. I hope she was wrestled to the ground, sprayed in the face with CS gas, taken into custody, put in the cells until her identity could be verified, given an on the spot fine and her DNA taken.

  132. 132
    Wombat says:

    Lets face it not many people are going to have any humour left after being affected by this government for over the past decade.

    Humour is luxury only the party faithful protected from the real world can enjoy.

  133. 133

    Tell you what thought. Old Ceausescu may have been a murderous tyrant, but when the end came, he bollocked out the fellers running the kangeroo court, and said right then, “just shoot me” AND his missus then said “and you can shoot me by his side”. Can you imagine Brown doing that? Can you imagine his missus doing that?

    A bad life – no doubt about that – but a good death. I hope I have balls enough to tell the guy with the Ak to go fuck himself.

  134. 134
    Meg Hitlier says:

    My party tortures detained combatants.

  135. 135
    Carter Ruck 'the caring face of law'. says:

    It gives the c00ns something to eat anyway

  136. 136
    Labour Party debt keeps growing and growing says:

    Labour party membership non existant.

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  138. 138's a must for a vibrant, multicultural Britain says:

    There is only one valid reason for ID cards at this time….the chaos caused by immigration both ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’.

    The ‘records’ our new citizens submit (or not) are of overwhelming confusion…multiplicity of birth certificates, marriage documents etc in every language and script under the sun, that ID cards is the only way to standardise and facilitate their trouble-free access to benefits.

    ID is the price to be paid to get some ‘control’ over entitlement transfers.

    Why do you think that only 30 years are required now for a full state pension.

    It was 44 years or 39 for a woman.

    Average age of immigrant male circa 28 to 33.

    They only have a shade over 30 years ‘working’ or ‘benefit’ drawing credits before they become ‘pensioners’.

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    TheBigYin says:

    There are two ladies in the picture above, which one is Meg Hillier?

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    Animal says:

    Do you mean the sarcasm so subtle it isn’t actually there?

    Pull your pantaloons back up from round your ankles, piggy knickers.

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    “Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me…”

    Live on Radio 5

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    tat says:

    the one who looks like friar tuck.

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    Lil Olmey says:

    I can tell you that one of my kids is still waiting for his loan to come through.
    Gasp – shock – horror – Al Jebeeba accidentally tells the truth.

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    Missed tricks says:

    But the simpletons in that meeting did not turn the screws on her. They should ahve turned her away for not having a valid and easily identifiable identity document. Then she would feel like a tight ar*e and know what it will be like when New Labour decide to make random people “non-people” for refusing the SS ID cards.

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    Labour Party debt keeps growing and growing says:

    the one of the left

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    care in the community says:

    takes one to know one

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    Lil Olmey says:

    Answer me this, someone : if you’re homeless and living on the streets and have no money, you sure as hell aren’t going to be able to get an ID card. So what’s the plan ? Are the police going to go round shooting such people ? Is that the one-eyed one’s idea of eliminating poverty ?

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    tat stop stealing my usernames says:

    you pesky troll

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    Give them the finger says:

    If the ID card / database is unforgeable, how will the UK’s spies continue having their multiple identities? New Labour don’t want to tell you that, because they are lying to joe / jane d1ckhead Labour voter about the ID card database and DNA database.

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    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    No, Meg Hilter!

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    Animal says:

    Tell us, how does it feel to support a Government that serves only itself and treats the citizens of this country like fools?

    Do any of your precious polls show this Government to be the first choice for a majority of people? Nope. But hey, that doesn’t fit in with your publicly subsidised posts so you won’t want to mention that of course.

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    Kezza the Hat says:

    Don’t be stupid, didn’t you know that there is one law for them and one law for us?

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    Scrobs... says:

    Perfect OH!

    A plastic soon-to-be-packed-away bauble, hanging from a load of pricks with lots of red Balls clustering around and hoping to stay in the bunch for as long as possible…

    Hedgehogdiplomacy – rather like Nopenhagen – depicted here; roll up and stick your pricks out…

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    Is he checking up on how many bridges have not been repaired by Brown’s inability to use the Army to aid the civil powers.

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    A bridge too far says:


  156. 156
    Anonymous says:

    How do ID cards help with that, though? If what you’re saying is that the ID card will have all that information in a handy easy to read form then fine as far as it goes, but the information still has to come from somewhere in the first place and be verified somehow before it can make it on to the card. So the benefit must be marginal at best.

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    I D cards are a waste of time, but ddin’t Darling imply that the scheme would be dropped in favour of biometric passports.

    The state should be our servant not our master.

    But perhaps this wonderfully useless minister would like to tell us how many people in Manchester have bothered to volunteer to hand over money to have one of these highly desirable objects.

    The ID card is illiberal, regressive and a tax on all of us. A pox on Gordon Brown and his snooping lackeys.

  158. 158
    Penfold says:

    No I.D. card, Mizz Hillier, come with us please, we need to make further enquiries.
    You will be charged with failure to produce a valid I.D. Card when requested, a fixed penalty of £150-00 will apply, your driving licence and passport will be taken away for a period of 90 days and you will be required to report to your local council reporting centre twice a week for a period of 90 days.
    You have a child?, well social services will be advised of this failure and your abject failure to comply with basic law. This may mean your child being taken into care as you represent a risk to that child. If you cannot comply with the law then you may well be a bad parent and not have the better interests of your child(ren) at heart.
    Do you have any means of proving who you claim to be.
    No, ahh, well that means we will have to take DNA and your fingerprints and search the National Database.
    You will please sign here, its a caution and acceptance that you have committed an offence, you will, there is no alternative.
    Thank you, now please step this way for processing and leave your personal effects here, you won’t need them where you’re going.
    Open the shower doors, the prisoner will just step inside and strip please. It’s all for processing madam.
    Thank you and goodbye.
    That will make the bastards carry their cards for the future.
    Heh heh.


  159. 159
    Thats News says:

    The former journalist and mother patted herself down and checked her handbag for the missing card before putting the slip-up down to the demands of looking after her baby.

    And this excuse would work for an ordinary member of the public found to be without their ID card, then? No. Of course it wouldn’t.

  160. 160
    Infanta of Castile says:

    I was amazed that the charmless thug had the chutzpah to turn up to a review of the year, given his record on expenses.

  161. 161
    Infanta of Castile says:

    best thing to do if you can manage it

  162. 162
    Taxi for McLetchie! says:

    Even with an identity card……who is she?.

  163. 163
    tat says:

    the raving lunatic’s boyfriend declared.

  164. 164
    tat says:

    and what happens if you lose your ID card? what do you do, stay at home until the new one is sent out or be arrested for not showing it when asked? and will replacement cards be sent by secure post or will we have to collect new ones? and what if criminals claim they are us and say they have lost the cards. will they send them to the address of whoever claims lost the card or will they send it to the latest address on the database.
    it is a complete mess innit.
    just like everything else the new labour party does.
    gordon brown is the person pushing ID cards. when brown is dead ID cards will be dead.

  165. 165
    steven gerrard says:

    “……a visit to LIVERPOOL so it went the same way as her hubcaps.”

    same old boring fucking stereotype – wanker

  166. 166
    Private Sparts says:

    Are you fucking serious?

  167. 167
    Eat my shorts says:

  168. 168

    It was most of the Merchant Navy that had been in Hillier, IIRC.

  169. 169
    Minister for Sport hahahaha says:

    My MP is named Gerard, but is known as Numpty.

  170. 170
    City Lad says:

    These must be the two least attractive women in London today.

    Have a lovely afternoon and Guido try posting some real totty.

  171. 171
    The Ape man commeth says:

    Is that a fact? What is the latest on the Tory position vis-à-vis ID chips, sorry cards?

    Indecently most of the posts on ID cards, rightly, warn of the massive amount of intrusion into our private lives, the restrictions on our liberty, and the potential for control over our lives by the state, but in my opinion that is only half of the story as they should be viewed as being like the Scottish monsters infamous PPP’s or PPI’s. in so much as capitol will have its half of our lives. I’m referring to the likes of all the big multinational (global) Insurance companies and banks, supermarkets, the soon to come private hospitals and clinics, the drug companies, not to mention the green industries, and so on. In short all our financial transactions will be directed through our chip and consequently also through the state; the whole picture is complex and has been a long time in the making and cannot be reduced to simple populist ideas like immigration and crime (incidentally one way our oppressors have been trying to sell them is that it will combat ‘identity-theft’, a fu’king sick joke as in true Orwellian terms it is precisely our identity that THEY will be stealing). No, woolly headed twerps who imagine ID cards are going to be like little brown folded pieces of card similar to the ones issued during the 2 WW need to wake up to the realities of electronic information.

  172. 172
    City Lad says:

    I will guarantee this does not apply to pikies; only the law abiding, tax paying, decent, hard working families

  173. 173
    The Ape man commeth says:

    opps ‘Incidentally’

  174. 174
    City Lad says:

    I see no ladies. I see two old bags.

  175. 175
    deeznuts says:

    adolf *hillier would be so proud (*see what i did there…..! )

    and “the inq”……seen the state of the country ??? its bee “governed” by labour
    the mess has nothing todo with the conservatives… wanker

  176. 176
    Foxy Fuchsochs says:

    There was nothing random about the way in which Himmler’s victims were chosen: they arose logically from the twisted racial ideology of Nazism.

    Wikipedia, in unusually lucid form, cites:

    “.. some six million Jews, between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma, many prisoners of war, and possibly another three to four million Poles, communists, or other groups whom the Nazis deemed unworthy to live or simply “in the way”, including homosexuals, people with physical and mental disabilities…”

    Citing the Labour party in this context is exceptionally poor taste, however much one might detest them.

    Happy Chanukah.

  177. 177
    Anonymous says:

    Romanians have blood in their veins, the British have cold tea, to be polite.

  178. 178
    BillyBob ... reduce our carbon footprint, stop immigration? says:

    Our Great Leaders in this Government are about as much use as chocolate fireguards !!

  179. 179
    Anonymous says:

    You have obviously never parked in Sunderland, the car crime capital of Europe.

  180. 180
    Matt says:

    Eyesight’s not all it was, but did you say Meg Hitler??

  181. 181

    So stop working hard, obeying the law and paying taxes then

    It ain’t rocket science. As long as we are part of the system, the system works. Take us away and they’re fucked.

  182. 182
    Anonymous says:

    Ah yes, talk about safety cameras…

    It used to be the prerogative of the gods to be virtually in 3 different places at once. With nu layber’s virtual ID database, once your details have been stolen, you too can find yourself in 3 different places at once and spending your own real money.

    Never happen you say? Indeed not, while the data readers and terminals are imaginary. Which is exactly why there is definite demand for ID cards in Manchester and Liverpool. Private enterprise will ensure these are quickly cloned and made available to the yoof at a tenner each, so ensuring our nation’s yoof may safely continue drinking in the usual manner.

    Now piss off fuckwit.

  183. 183
    Real Alternative says:

    Some other words:

    Mobile Phone – PAYG, cheap, use it for a bit and then throw it away

    Internet – anonymisers, proxies; cyber cafes; wifi war driving

    In other words, if you don’t want to be tracked, then use your head.

    ID cards are a different thing altogether.

  184. 184
    Matt says:

    Actually, the beauty of this story has just dawned on me. In 10 years’ time when the Stasi pull me over demanding I.D. I will simply refer to this story. And they will laugh and say “Thank you, you’ve made us realise what a foolish waste of time and money this whole I.D. database exercise was. It only serves to let us spy on and control the population, and therefore has no positive value in a liberal democracy. Is there any way that we can help you? No? OK, then we’re sorry to have wasted your time. Please feel free to carry on about your business.”

    Nah, only kidding! We’re fucked people, unless we tell the tossers where to shove it.

  185. 185
    Cyco Billy says:

    is a clown butt
    is sillier

  186. 186
    Real Alternative says:

    Finger, here’s a clue: the spies are part of the state and the state issues the ID cards. Even if the cards are unforgeable it does not mean that multiple copies cannot be made.

  187. 187
    Talwin says:

    Just imagine if she had to look after a baby and had a REAL job.

  188. 188
    Shemale says:

    I notice she/he/it:

    # Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war.
    # Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.

    A typical Nu Liebore token sock-puppet shemale. These all-shemale candidate lists have been a disaster for Britain. They have generated a hideous retarded gang of corrupt conniving shemales in government, that are no better than chocolate pigs.

  189. 189
    Mangled says:

    Nein, nein …

    You both have it wrong … it is Hister … get it HISTER.

    It was Anonymous’s responsibility to make sure … after our Reichmarks were cut … thank you to our central bankers (including Byoir), I have your names in my little black book … to wind down and destroy our gene experiments, including that of xxx10666/HIST/M. (The dot is not part of the nitrogen cell naming btw. where this particular experiment was deposited.)

    We of NaziULab were most concerned that we tracked ALL records.

    In fact we have compiled a compete document of EVERY contribution that Anonymous has made to this particularly insidious and subversive site and will make sure that anybody that ridicules us will … erm … yes … ‘pay the price.’

    Oh, yes … we salute Fuhrer (Nick) Brown … full of instinctive leadership.

    So there …

    (P.S. Can we come out now … I here (from spies) … that it may be OUR TIME … and the bogs are full and we’re running out of baked beans … and some of us really need to take a piss …)

  190. 190
    Real Alternative says:

    “hasnt she got fucking driving licence then?”

    Unfortunately that is irrelevent. It is not the identity the jobsworth want to check, it is the ID card. This is the problem.

    When we have compulsory ID cards and you go to get a prescription, or a doctor’s appointment, you could have every identity document you have, but if you don’t have your national ID card you will not get the service. The reason is that only your national ID card will have your unique ID number (the key into your National ID database record) and without that number you are not treated as being a citizen.

  191. 191
    Real Alternative says:

    Will they have special card issuing machines in maternity wards?

  192. 192
    Anonymous says:

    Exactly… one rule for them…

    When they are compulsory, it’d be a fine/jail for not carrying it – no excuse that you have a busy lifestyle.

    Maybe if we all got to spank her then she can keep her job.

  193. 193
    final salary civil servant pensioner says:

    I can completely understand why she forgot her ID card – it serves no use whatsoever

  194. 194
    City Lad says:

    I have opted out of the lousy public health system, the hopeless schools, the inefficient public sector – you name it.

    Hard to opt out of PAYE, IHT, Council Tax

    Wish it were possible to opt out of everything this hopeless, useless country has to “offer” (read compulsorarily use).

    And to thin people out there are stupid enough to want to vote for some idiot like Brown and his ignoramus henchmen (read henchpeople for the pc brigade)

  195. 195
    Tax is taxing says:

    mibi she did what I intend to do to mine if ever forced to carry one – 30 seconds in the microwave on high

  196. 196
    Lomcevak says:

    Yes … just like our local MP … Natascha Engel … a perfect product of the NuLab clone experiment.

    After a year of writing … by me … without responses … in the light of the expense exposure … she finally came clean … after trying to assert that she and her family ‘lived’ in NE Derbyshire.

    She has now said that ‘when’ she leaves the constituency she will donate all that expensive stuff she bought, shod most of ‘value’ out of the doors (characterized as one of the most extravant of the 2005 induction) to charity.

    Well wup… ti … do

    Here’s to your £30-00 a piece champaign flutes Natascha, as you celebrate Christmas … there are kids on the streets here and oversease that would like to have a piece of this action …

  197. 197
    Lomcevak says:

    Apart from the pigs with their snouts in a trough and in our pockets … you are right … best wishes on seasons as they go …

  198. 198
    Lomcevak says:

    Oh, yeah … I should add this … in her ‘comming clean’ … she’s still not said what she’s going to do about Capital Gains Tax since clearly, before the scam has been broken-up, taxpayers money was being used to give them a ‘property portfolio.’ (There’s lots of bleating on her ‘new’ website about their ‘remortgaging’ of property so that they could ‘invest’ £200 000 pounds in an apparently ‘derelict’ property in NE Derbyshire so she should be ‘part of the community.’

    Anybody want to buy that bridge over there … going cheap …

  199. 199
    Mr Ned says:

    To ensure the court convicts the right person!

  200. 200
    Mr Ned says:

    Re: Malcom Tucker freaks out! CLASSIC!!! PMSL!

  201. 201
    Mr Ned says:

    Fuck off foxy,

    The current incumbents of the global order are trying to create a system that will cause death on a scale that will make Hitler’s look like a children’s picnic.

    When Brown, Obama and co get done with the Climate Change legislation, we in the west will be taxed into oblivion to pay to kill hundreds and hundreds of millions of people through starvation and through cold. food and fuel are set to be hit BIG TIME.

    These evil bastards are going for a global genocide. Fuck your measly 6 million Jews, this is going to be global and billions are going to die.

    “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
    – Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

    “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
    – Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

    “… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.”
    – Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
    – Prof Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb

    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
    – Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

    “I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
    – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

    “The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
    – Christopher Manes, Earth First!

    “Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
    – David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    When Hitler killed 10 million, he was labelled a monster. Environmentalists wants to kill BILLIONS they give them the Nobel Peace Prize.

  202. 202
    Mr Ned says:

    Keep grasping at those straws!

    I remember an impressive list of 10 “real” council by-elections in 1997 that convinced the tories that they would win that general election too. Large swings to the tories in these polls were cited as proof that the media was hyping a false swing to labour in the opinon polls.

    The tories were thrashed anyway. People vote a lot differently in local by-elections (with a 20% turnout) than they do in national polls!

  203. 203
    Mr Ned says:

    Indeed. Cameron will scrap the labour proposals, and implement the same proposals when they come from the EU, because he will not have the power to stop ID cards being forced on us from the EU.

    Only UKIP will prevent them.

  204. 204
    Mr Ned says:

    True. It is the responsibility of the card-holder to keep the 57 (and counting) seperate pieces of personal information up-to-date. The card-holder will have to pay to have the card updated with the latest data and will face a £1000 fine for non-compliance. EVEN if errors are on the card due to the mistakes of the card issuing agency. So if you give them the correct information and they get that wrong on your card, you will have to pay again to correct it or face a £1000 fine.

  205. 205
    Mr Ned says:

    At least the tories have some morale to crumble.

    Labour MP’s are still on suicide watch!

  206. 206
    Anonymous says:

    You’re quite right to point out that Labourites are not like Nazis.

    The Nazis killed communists, for example.

    Labourites, on the other hand, have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

  207. 207
    Parliamentary Under Secretary of State For Creating Ministerial Posts says:

    A few of my better efforts.

  208. 208
    Hooness Scottie says:

    It worked for me

  209. 209
    Anonymous says:

    or an ‘S’

  210. 210

    Posed many times outside Liver bldgs.
    Once in 1940, and then ????

    Our U-Baots access the Murkey?

  211. 211
    Anonymous says:



  212. 212
    Withnail says:

    To sell in the pub to an illegal immigrant, stoopid

  213. 213
    christy says:

    To Andy.
    Yes sir,they don’t call Purnell the hospital man for nowt.

  214. 214
    English Liberation Front says:

    Inquisition = Wanker

    (And a very boring one too)

  215. 215
    English Liberation Front says:

    Identity Minister – fuck off bitch!

  216. 216
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Parked? To lose your hubcaps in liverpool you just have to drive under 30mph.

  217. 217
    Hide the Decline says:

    Its the Fourth Sector innit !!!!

  218. 218
    Hide the Decline says:

    Hard working North Briton

  219. 219
    Minister for Fuck All says:

    Hi I’m the Minister for Fuck All .

  220. 220
    normal person says:

    I ‘ll watch newsnight to see if they are keeping an eye on things….yawn

  221. 221
    Anonymous says:

    I’ll lend u mine if u loose urs tat.

  222. 222

    On one level this simply illustrates the abysmal quality of leadership in this government; but on another it shows just how impractical these ID things are going to be.

    If a minister specifically on her way to promote these bloody things can leave the damned card at home, how does she think the rest of the population are going to fare?

    “ID, please, citizen. What’s that? You’ve left it at home? That’s a likely story.

    “We’d better take you down to the station to check your DNA against the database then.

    “No don’t worry, citizen, it’ll only take about 24 hours then you’ll be free to go on your way. Unless we discover you have outstanding transgressions that is.”

  223. 223

    Just met Hillary Clinton. Her support for the 100bn figure should help us shift the dynamic.

    If he truly believes that then he’s an even bigger twat than we’ve suspected so far. The Septics have form for pledging big money to worthy causes then forgetting to send the cheque.

    Partly, I suspect it’s because they like to show off. More importantly, as I understand it, Uncle Sam can’t spend money unless Congress says he can. Barry and Hillie can make as many promises as they like; if it’s not yet approved spending and the honourable representative from Pig Knuckle, Arkansas don’t like the deal, he and his chums can scupper it toot sweet on the floor of the House.

    Whatever, Brown’s truly a gullible moron if he believes Hilary’s “promise” is worth anything.

  224. 224
    Minister for Hand Washing says:

    Hey! Stop trying to muscle onto my turf sunshine.

  225. 225


    I think you are right; evil shites that they were, at least Heinrich’s lads worked to a plan. A better analogy might be Comrade Stalin’s NKVD.

    Apparently at the height of the purges NKVD offices would simply be mailed monthly quotas of the number of “enemies of the state” they were expected to arrest. These targets were then met by the simple expedient of grabbing the requisite quantity of bodies.

    From all we’ve seen of NuLabour and the apparat it has created my guess would be that this is the way of the future.

  226. 226
    MegHistor says:

    I represent that information … and I’ll see you in court … or possibly some where else … any suggestions, big boy ;-)

  227. 227
    MegHistor says:

    You mean the ‘not real’ Meg Hillier could be a … gasp … a terrorist …

    ‘Nuff said … I call for 90 days detention until this matter gets sorted.

  228. 228
    Mangled says:

    Aha … another one for Nick Brown’s little black book …

  229. 229

    Of course there’s one law for them and another for the proles:

    When caught without her compulsory ID Card you can expect any NuLab ministerial bimbo to immediately throw a hissy fit and scream: “Don’t you know who I am?” at the offending Fingerman.

  230. 230
    Louise says:

    I vote for Nicola Murray.

  231. 231
    Guard 461 says:

    She should have been puinshed there & then for not carrying one. A typical punishment I recommend…..hmmmm

  232. 232
    Gus Mac says:

    Is this true? An ‘Identity Minister’ called Meg Hitler. Sorry, Hillier.

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