December 12th, 2009

‘Dickensian’Dougie’s Invisible Magic Chimney Sweep

Dizzy highlights the strange oversight by left-wing blogs like LabourList and Left Foot Forward.   Whereas conservative-leaning Dizzy is happy to condemn both wee Dougie Alexander and George Osborne for charging taxpayers for their chimney sweeping, Labour’s Alex Smith and Will Straw only condemn Osborne for his Dickensian ways.  Labour’s election campaign strategist Dougie Alexander must have an invisible magical chimney sweep that they can’t see.  This example seems to Guido to show in a nutshell why the unpopular end of the blogosphere is unpopular, it is just too slavish to the official party line to be interesting.  It is a sign of weakness not strength.

Left-wing and Green bloggers have been banging on about how Iain Dale and other Tory bloggers don’t toe the official Conservative Party policy line on on the environment, as if they think the honest heterodoxy of the Tory blogosphere is a bug, not a feature.  If people want to read on-message press releases, they can go to the official party websites.  There is a lesson here.


295 Comments

  1. 1
    thick as thieves says:

    SMASH THE PARTY MACHINE VOTE INDEPENDENT

    • 8
      An Honourable Member says:

      Serjeant-at-arms, please remove this irritating little man. Good chap.

      • 33

        Dougie and Wendy. Brother like sister

      • 62
        I need to get out more says:

        Is a woman, Jill Pay, copperwash hairdo, previously the Commons accommodation manager.

        • 182
          labour thought-crime team leader says:

          The old system had two huge flaws:

          The job often went to a white male – therefore it was institutionally racist and sexist.

          The previous type of occupants of the job would never have allowed the police to raid opposition MP’s offices without a warrant.

          Therefore it was modernised. We’ll get the BBC to run a feature proclaiming it a success.

    • 9
      concrete pump says:

      Any independent……..or do you have someone in mind ?

      • 45
        thick as thieves says:

        any reasonable independent candidate will do, preferably local.
        and I repeat my earlier warning: top boy’s propaganda unit fully supports Esther Rantzen and her attempt to become an independent MP. I will be watching closely and will kick the shit out of anyone who says a single word against Esther because she is decent citizen but the scum parties she is up against are cheating thieves and cannot be trusted to act like gentlemen in their campaign against such an independently minded citizen as Esther.
        voting for an independent candidate like Esther does ofcourse entail some research and effort to find out which independents are standing and it could even involve contacting the candidate and discussing their views. that is called democratic participation and is the type of scrutiny that has been sadly lacking on the part of the electorate. that has been our democractic downfall, that is our collective fault.
        the truth of the matter is this: people have become, largely due to living such busy and productive lives, spoon-fed by politicians of all the parties.
        the people have let the politicians do our thinking for us and look where that has got us. war, torture and occupation. oh and an economic meltdown.
        results of politicians performance:
        A BIG FAT MOTHERFUCKING F MINUS – FAIL – FUCKING USELESS – FUCK OFF
        and now these thieves want to charge green tax on the public to make up for the losses their mismanagement of public funds has so far accumulated? fuck off c’unts. you c’unts don’t know what the fuck you are doing FFS. retards.
        ’tis time for people to start thinking for themselves again. we will get more sense.
        the political parties have proved to be untrustworthy. as trust is the essential ingredient of good governance that means none of the parties are fit to govern.
        therefore the only logical choice is to vote independent.
        innit.

    • 21
      Anonymous says:

      You vile lump of filth.

      Just shows Labour supporters in their true colours I suppose.

      • 41
        Just a question, no offence says:

        How sick can you be strap explosives to a living person for political aims?

        • 138
          rick says:

          Or drop explosives onto living people from the air – like Sick Tony did for money and political aims.

        • 167
          BillyBob ... reduce our carbon footprint, stop immigration? says:

          Do you think these suicide bombers go to heaven and lots of virgins????

          yeah, I think it is bollocks toooooooooo……. I bet they get a sock when they get to the other side and there is f8ck all there !!

    • 27
      Gooey Blob says:

      That’s all very well if the independent has a chance of winning, but most of them don’t. My constituency is a straight Labour-Conservative fight. If I vote for an independent I will be wasting my time. I can either vote to support the government, vote to remove it, or I can stay at home.

      • 50
        thick as thieves says:

        by voting for the parties you are voting against democracy.
        it is a matter of principle gooey blob.
        you’ve been fucking brainwashed.
        you sound like a fucking fooball hooligan you c’unt.

        • 78
          Pete says:

          You stupid twat!

          Yeah, let’s let a matter of principle give the snot gobbler another 5 years…

          • Budgie says:

            Snivel, snivel, whinge, drool, let’s vote for the big parties because the independents don’t have a chance, drool, snuffle, phlegm, whinge, lick, lick …..

            Doh, that’s why the big parties stay big, duh!

        • 79
          Sungei Patani says:

          You sound quite irrational and really rather vulgar.

          • thick as thieves says:

            why are you trolls so very dim?
            you miss the point.
            voter turnout is at its lowest levels ever. by voting independent even if your candidate does not win you are still actively engaging in the collapse of the mandate of whichever corrupt party gains power.
            brown has no mandate as it is, do you seriously think he can survive a hung parliament.
            don’t talk fucking daft Pete.
            you fucking idiot.

        • 177
          final salary civil service pensioner says:

          Is this ‘vote independent’idea the first you have had?

        • 191
          Gonzo says:

          Yoy need to up your ‘meds’TAT you tit you really do.

        • 196
          Early eighties football hooligan says:

          Tat’s gonna get his fucking head kicked in!

      • 81
        Mr Ned says:

        So what you are saying, Gooeyblob, is that you can either vote for an incompetent bunch of lying, treasonous scum who will put the global elite before the people of this country every time, or you can vote for an incompetent bunch of lying, treasonous scum who will put the global elite before the people of this country every time, OR you can stay home and allow a party who are an incompetent bunch of lying, treasonous scum who will put the global elite before the people of this country every time to win by default.

        I disagree, You can either allow these new world order traitors to win by default, or you can get up off your ass and do something about it. I don’t care if you vote independent, or UKIP, or B&P, but get out and vote FOR this country and it’s people, and NOT for the treasonous traitors who have failed this country and her people consistently and continuously for the last 60 years!

        • 96

          Vote for for anyone you like. Just make sure they have NEVER been in Parliament before.

          This lot got us here, they are hardly the best to get us out. 646 new faces would be a right laugh.

          • Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

            What we need is a ‘none of the above’box on the voting form.

            That way, if the protest votes exceeded those cast for any of the party candidates, an MP would not be elected and a by-election would have to be run.

            In the by-election the independents could organise themselves to put up a single candidate, who would romp home.

            That’s a simple way to break the party stranglehold….which is why we’ll never get it.

      • 275
        LutonHousewomansGuild says:

        WE’RE RIGHT BEHIND YOU TAT

        HANGBAAAAAAGS

    • 35
      Bubbles Lamnot says:

      I will comment at greater length when I have completed my Night Soil duties near Ancrum.

    • 165
      Labour Toffs says:

      You missed this Guido

      Quentin Davies, Labour Toff, Claimed for the sweeping of 3 Chimneys at his country estat2

      http://mpsallowances.parliament.uk/mpslordsandoffices/hocallowances/allowances-by-mp/quentin-davies/Quentin_Davies_0809_ACA.pdf

      Page 23

    • 172
      TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

      One man. Several Identities. No power. No fun. No higher thinking. Just low level abuse and automatic Gainsaying. Have a Merry little Xmas everyone else.

    • 178
      Sooty says:

      What’s the problem with having the Chimney swept? Better a clean flue than having the Fire brigade pumping gallons oe water down the chimney and ruining the house.

      FFS most houses in the UK have a Chimney.

      • 186
        Sweep says:

        MPs think it beneath them to fork out ten quid for a set of Chimney rods and a brush, then get their hands a tad dirty cleaning their chimney unlike the rest of us perhaps?

      • 188
        Top Tip says:

        When sweeping your Chimney rotate the rods CLOCKWISE to make sure they stay screwed together.

      • 278
        Biffo says:

        No problem having a chimney swept. Problem occurs when you make the taxpayer pay for it. ‘vital to carrying out their role as an MP’?

    • 193
      Zacaroo says:

      UKIP?

  2. 2
    Mr Ned says:

    It shows that people of the left are utterly void of reason and have to be told what to think by the party, whereas tories are capable of more reason. Independents are the real free thinkers and employ reason far more than any party slave.

    • 13
      An Honourable Member says:

      Are you in some way related to Mr Ed, the talking horse? I think we should be told!

    • 70
      Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

      Shows the left is a sham. It can’t take criticism and so resorts to spin, lies, smears, bullying and eventually genocide. Witness the mess they are in with AGW.

      • 117
        Mr Ned says:

        “Climate gate was only a couple of emails sent 10 years ago and picked up and taken out of context and exagerrated by deniers” – AL Gore.

        “The earths Mantle is millions of degrees” – AL Gore.

        And anyone still takes that utterly imbecilic fuckwit seriously? FFS!

        One thing I have noticed since climategate broke into the news. There have been many people looking at the records that the CRU used. They are publicly available online from GCHN. These are the records that CRU and NASA Giss use.

        These records as a raw dataset show that many many places have cooled since 1780. These datasets are, by necessity, adjusted or homogonised to take into account changes in the surface station over time. EG, when stations are moved, or the equipment is updated or the station closed or other stations opened nearby.

        The problem is that the raw data is such a mess, (with huge gaps and stations being moved and taken off-line) that it is almost imposible to actually measure what has happened over the last 200 years from the surface record. It is like measuring the size of a constantly changing shape object with a ruler whose measurements are continuously changing too.

        This leaves another massive problem. The people who are doing the homogonisation of the raw data… These are groups lead by people who are admitted climate extremists. They are religious in their approach to climate change and NOT scientific. By their own admission, they with-hold their data and methodology, they bully and threaten publications and they have perverted the peer-review process, and now the analysis of the GCHN raw data we see why.

        We are left to trust on pure faith alone that these people are accurately and honestly adjusting the temperature records to show what has actually happened, and NOT to fuck with the data in any way to implement their own bias into the record. These are people who we know are committed to a political agenda that is entirely and completely dependent upon the temperature showing warming.

        We are asking bank-robbers to guard the vaults!

        Well when the original individual station records are analysed and compared with the NASA Giss record, the result is that NASA Giss has made adjustments to the record to show warming where the actual data shows no warming, and in several cases cooling.

        This adjusted data is the record that is then used to underpin thousands of other climate reasearch papers. So there is consensus due to the data that underpins that research being fixed before the other research is even started.

        There needs to be a complete and total re-examination of ALL the raw data in open and in public.

        What is worse is that there is now evidence that much of this raw data is NOW being manipulated to show rising temperatures, where the data showed falling temperatures. In other words, they are no longer providing the raw data, but a homogonised data-set that already has been rigged to show warming, where the original station data showed cooling.

        http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/11/giss-raw-station-data-before-and-after/

        Then people say, oh well the two different satellite records are accurate and show warming. Well the satellite equipment has been calibrated using the fixed data, so will record temperature incorrectly.

        So the infamous “trick” to “hide the decline” email does show that there was sinister intentionality to hiding an inconvenient decline in temperatures.

        It was a record reconstructed by Briffa et all from tree-ring proxies. This showed a record that was consistent with other studies, until 1960, when the temperature indication in the tree ring proxies diverged from the other studies. It showed that the temperatures declined from the 1960′s (in line with the new ice age scares at the time) whereas the thermometer record from surface stations showed temperatures increasing. So they incorporated the thermometer record and smoothed the different series.

        Well as we are now discovering, the thermometer record is NOT an accurate record of anything at all. For just one example, when a mountain station in California closed, the data for that station was then “filled in” from a station on the california coast. This will obviously create a warmer record than would otherwise be the case. hundreds of Siberian records went off-line in the 1990s with the collapse of the Soviet Empire. This removed a LOT of cold stations from the global record. we saw a jump in the global temps in the official record over this time. So the use d a “trick” of removing the Briffa tree data after 1960 and using the fixed thermometer data instead to show warming more than had actually been the case.

        Mann Made Global Warming IS a scam. It is a fraud it is about time people realised how BIG a scam it really is.

        • 173
          Number 7 says:

          WRT dendrology (tree ring analysis), can somebody please explain to me how they extrapolate “a good summer” from this evidence.

          Tree growth depends on climate – no argument.

          Warm + Wet = Growth
          Cold + Wet = Less Growth
          Hot + Dry = Less Growth

          Discuss!

          • Number 7 says:

            Good posting Ned

          • Shaun Woodward, That's Life dog says:

            grroooood prrrost rrred. Sausages

          • Gardener says:

            It is fairly easy to differentiate between species of trees. Native broadleaf trees will grow in any temperature above 14C, which would include every bad summer on record.

            Since much of the disputed data is post 1961 there are millions of trees in million of gardens to choose from. A hot dry summer would retard native conifer and deciduous growth alike, but would probably cause Mediterranean species, such as the Olea (olive) and Viti- (grape) to thrive. Not rocket science really. Ask a gardener!

        • 195

          “It is like measuring the size of a constantly changing shape object with a ruler whose measurements are continuously changing too.”

          Are you Dawn French’s tailor, Mr. Ned?

        • 273
          Madame Defarge says:

          Reply to Mr Ned (No 119)

          There is a very comprehensive website on the subject, unfortunately mostly in French, where, however, some parts are translated – especially an analysis of the CRU files. Well worth having a look at. Come on, fellow “deniers”, be brave, exercise you language skills!

          Just type: pensee unique Jean Martin

          It should be the first link on your box.

      • 231
        Adolf Schicklegruber says:

        You are casting aspersions on the integrity of Socialists. Socialists would never resort to genocide. I was a socialist and I never did.

    • 174
      stilyagi_air_corps says:

      Same with New Labour’s reactions to hostage crises – frozen, useless, nailed to the floor with fear, until they get ‘word from above’… From Gordon. Fucking Marxist dinosaurs, unfit for the job. New Government, please!

  3. 3
    joe says:

    “toe the official Conservative Party policy line”, not “tow the official Conservative Party policy line”.

    Otherwise excellent – 9.5 / 10

    • 30
      Unsworth says:

      He’s right – ‘toe’, not ‘tow’, the party line. C’mon Guido – you know better than that, I think.

      • 63
        I feel a play coming on says:

        tow be or not toe be
        that is the question

        • 115
          Number 7 says:

          Boring information – but correct.

          “Toe the line” is very closely related to “Coming up to scratch”. Both are terms that were used in prize fighting. When a fighter was knocked down the round ended and after, I think it was, a minute each fighter had be able to stand up and “come to scratch” ( A line drawn in the ring ) and be fit to “toe the line”. Nothing to do with pulling Becket’s caravan.

          Here ends the lesson.

          • The Duchess of York preferred toe jobs.

          • Simon the Sailor says:

            Wouldn’t like to disagree with you Number 7 but wasn’t the origin of “Toe the Line” from the Royal Navy, where seamen would muster on deck and form up by putting the front of their feet on the joins between the deck planks (the lines)?
            Of course, may also have been used in boxing…

          • Randy Andy was always sticking his foot in it

          • Budgie says:

            I think “toeing the line” referred to the practice of requiring British sailors to prove they were not incapacitated (ie drunk), in the age of sail.

    • 244
      Zacaroo says:

      Guido spends his weekends caravanning.

  4. 4
    NB says:

    It’s toe the line, not tow. :-)

    • 22
      Anonymous says:

      WHS

      Gets on my tits almost as much as “should of”

      • 64
        Grammar Grandma says:

        Exactly.
        Exactly as it should have.

      • 164
        Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

        And ‘would of’, ‘could of’and their various cousins……..and ‘bored of’.

        (Ever stopped to think how utterly incompetent most public-sector teachers must be not to have stamped this out? No doubt they would argue that they can’t fight an entire culture. But that would depend on their understanding the problem, which in some cases may be questionable.)

        The only solace I get among the many pieces of evidence of the ruination of our civilisation is that, down through the ages, people have always said this sort of thing, so perhaps it’s all part of the human condition.

        • 291
          Osama the Nazarene says:

          For all these “right on” teachers it is more important that their charges “express” themselves without being encumbered by the tedium of grammatical correctness. Hence the result, the little darlings write drivel and it takes twice as long to understand what they are trying to articulate!

    • 116
      Number 7 says:

      See above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (113)

  5. 5
    Jamal says:

    Mr Guido, I demand that you expose the racist tory party, and how they harbour vile climate change deniers & advocates of withdrawing from the EU. thankyou

    • 7
      The Plain People of England says:

      All together now – sod off!

      • 10
        Jamal says:

        The EU has created millions of jobs in the UK and enriched our economy, whilst preventing another WWII, only a lunatic would want to leave! If anything we should be in favour for even greater integration… Climate change is an accepted scientific fact, and yet people here seem to believe it is a huge conspiracy involving hundreds of PhDs. I call on Mr. Guido to accept these two facts!

        • 11
          concrete pump says:

          I call on you to fuck off.

          Bell end !

          • Jamal says:

            Little Englander

          • concrete pump says:

            If you think that’s an insult, your wrong.

            I love my country of England, just not the c*nts in parliament, and especially those c*nts on the left.

            You, however despise this country.

            I have a suggestion.

            Fuck off to N. Korea or Cuba, and live the life of a socialist there.

            Because in those countries, people might give a fuck about what you say.

            Btw, Sunny Hundal is awaiting your flaccid cock in his arse.

            Chop chop.

          • ENGLAND says:

            Yes, fuck off, Jamhole. Go and have a chat with your socialist chumps like B£iar, Brown and Straw all of who were instrumental in launching the war in Iraq.

          • Number 7 says:

            Love it or leave it!

        • 16
          An Honourable Member says:

          Shhhhhhhhhhutthefuckup Jamal!

          We need organs like this to make our fanciful ideas seem the norm and critics the nutjobs.

        • 28
          Anonymous says:

          You cant have “another” World war 2 u stupid c unt, it wud be world war 3. And any fucking way it was NATO and our nuclear deterent together with America that stopped such an event. Prick !!

          • HASH GORDON (saviour of the universe) says:

            But the surender of all the countries to the EU Against the wishes of the Populations Could result in a third world war When the shit hits the fan and they realize what the fuck has gone on !

          • Agent 99 says:

            we could have a WW 2.1 I suppose

          • Biffo says:

            Hash Gordon – not another World War – an uprising within individual countries against their lying, traitorous scum in govt who have sold them, their children & their childrens’children into abject slavery to the EU – a totalitarian, authoritarian & totally corrupt bunch of c’nts

        • 32
          Anonymous says:

          How could there be “another WWII”, idiot? Methinks what you are trying to refer to, if it were to come to pass, might well be called – and this is just a shot in the dark – WWIII.

          • I think we’ve already had WW3 – the cold war was pretty hot in places, and millions died in those proxy wars.

            WW4 is already underway, undeclared and mostly unrecognisable as such, but like art, it’s one of those things you know when you see it.

            WW5 will be fought with sticks and stones.

        • 47
          Addanc says:

          I suggest that NATO has more to do with preventing WWIII. When the PhD start publishing their methods and raw data people may start taking the possibility of AWG seriously; catastrophic man made climate change IS NOT an accepted scientific fact.

        • 59
          Sir William Waad says:

          There is no such thing as a ‘fact’in science. There are observations and theories. Anyone who uses the phrase ‘scientific fact’betrays their complete ignorance of science.

          • Pete says:

            … as do those who refer to scientific ‘concensus’…

          • Another Engineer says:

            Quite right, except perhaps the laws of thermodynamics.

            You can’t win, you can’t break even, you can’t quit playing the game.

            Bit like death and taxes.

            Every time some non-scientist PPE politician tw*t comes on telling me to do this that or the other, because x, y or z is going to happen, I feel free to ignore it.

            Last one was that idiot on This Week telling us it was all true, but didn’t himself know the difference between a logarithm and an algorithm…

          • Engineer says:

            That’s easy. Log-a-rhythm is having regular bowel movements, Al Gore Rhythm is regularly beating a climate warming panic spreader.

        • 87
          Sungei Patani says:

          Jamal,

          The only jobs that can be seen to have been produced by the EU are for civil servants and politicians no evidence of anything else except perhaps French farm labourers which has enriched their economy – not ours.

          I think you will find that it has been NATO, rather than the EU, that has ensured that Europe has not had a war (other than in the Balkans) since 1945.

          Since two of your “facts” are demonstrably wrong perhaps your comments on global warming are a little suspect as well.

        • 166
          Sarge says:

          It has ‘enriched’our economy by giving us back our own money -we are net contributors. I suggest the combined experiences of two world wars have done far more to prevent another one than the undemocratic and corrupt EU.

          Why do you promote undemocratic and corrupt political institutions?

    • 113
      Anonymous Misogynist says:

      Jamal @ 3.15

      If climate change is a ‘scientific fact’, why are we still pumping millions of £’s, $’s €’s etc. into research?

      • 120
        Technomist says:

        To stop anyone else doing it who will check on the real data

      • 121
        Mr Ned says:

        It’s not research, it is propaganda. When scientists apply for funding they have to show on the grant application how their study will show man made climate change.

        They start with the conclusion and then fix the data to fit or they don’t get funding!

        • 171
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Mr Ned.

          Like you I read WUWT everyday and totally agree that this politicised climate change is a scam, I always have!
          I’d like to see a grant application form, have you seen one? Propaganda works both ways, no?

          ‘No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right, a single experiment can prove me wrong.’ Albert Einstein.

    • 159
      Bernie says:

      Jamal being a socialist is like putting the chains back on. Have some self respect for yourself and family.

    • 201

      Shouldn’t that be “vial climate change deniers”

    • 266
      Frank says:

      I’m not as racist as you

  6. 6
    Mitch says:

    The gap between labor spin and reality is now so large that their drones have to have it explained to them using very small words.
    Gordon has to have it mimed to him.

    • 75
      Interesting_Times. says:

      I’d hate to see the mime when they were telling him that Cockermouth was flooded.

      • 184
        Anonymous says:

        Or when he is getting briefed about the Large Hadron Collider !

        Not that the stupid narrow minded fuck would understand it !!

  7. 14
    Vote Vote Vote for Jacqui. says:

    WORLD LEADER LIES COMPETION RESULTS

    4th Place. “There are weapons of Mass Destruction capable of being fired within 45 minutes.” Anthony C.L.BLAIR

    3rd Place . “I like to jog about three miles most days” James G.BROWN.

    2nd Place. ” I did not have sex with that woman” William F.CLINTON.

    1st Place. ” I did not eat that bogey” James G.BROWN.

    Gordon the SnotGobbler takes 3rd and 1st places in the Global DenialCompetition.

  8. 15
    Andrew K says:

    Not sure about young Dougie, I would be more than happy to sweep the lovely Wendy Alexander’s chimney for free.

  9. 18
    Irene says:

    I love this blog and laugh out loud at some of the comments, I had to look up heterodoxy by the way.

    • 20
      miserable old git says:

      Me too,I also had to look up some of the “Anglo Sazon” phrases- must be my sheltered upbringing,but I am learning

      • 25
        Mr Plum says:

        I thought there must be a word ‘homodoxy’and there is.
        Though i I could not understand the description.

    • 26
      BillyBob ... preparing for Gov't. says:

      Yeah…… just like Honest Labour, makes me laugh…..some would suggest it is an oxymoron !!

      • 69
        Brown's Psychiatrist says:

        Ruin: ‘Dr. Dr. I think I’m a homodoc.’Dr: ‘Calm down you oxymoron. Just lie about it…’

    • 89
      Engineer says:

      Heterodoxy is impressive and sounds posh, but on balance I think I prefer hetero and foxy.

  10. 23
    Jimmy says:

    “it is just too slavish to the official party line to be interesting. ”

    The trick of course is being just slavish enough.

  11. 24
    Dave "Cast Iron Guarantee" Cameron says:

    I applaud thick as thieves on his comments and well said

    Thick As Thieves told the BBC: “As Brits who have gone through the suffering and the agony of Gordon Brown’s regime, we support Tony Blair’s statement.

    “I believe it was worth it. I believe Gordon Brown’s regime was an affront to the international community, to the international consciousness because of the atrocities, the crimes, he has committed.”

    • 55
      thick as thieves says:

      bloody hell, you aren’t still upset about that good fucking hiding I gave you on the last thread are you? face it: you are just a bad loser.
      get over it.
      if you can’t take it fuck off.

  12. 31
    Kezza the Hat says:

    “Please Sir can I have some more…. expenses?”

  13. 36
    Anonymous says:

    It has not escaped the notice of even the BBC that Tony Blairs latest admission is a bombshell which has very interesting , some would say serious implications for the perceived “legality” of the War in Iraq.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8409596.stm

    • 42

      Does it hell.

      Bliar could tell the truth – that we went to war because god told him to do it – and it still wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference. He’ll never stand in a dock, ‘cus he’s a made man; one of the elite. He can do no wrong

    • 51
      BillyBob ... reduce our carbon footprint, stop immigration? says:

      The previous Great Leader is preparing us, so that when he appears before the Inquiry he has already answered most of the probing questions likely to be put to him…….so no massive headlines and revelations.

    • 58
      Sir William Waad says:

      Blair seems to be saying “If we hadn’t made up that particular lie, we would have had to invent another one. Removing Saddam was right because I say so.”

      • 254
        Budgie says:

        It was the right thing to do.
        It started in America.
        It is for hardworking British families.
        It wasnae me.

    • 91
      HASH GORDON (saviour of the universe) says:

      Blair may yet get to reside On main land europe Not in the custom built palace he would have liked but in a 12′x 8′ cell in the pokie !

    • 169
      Sarge says:

      He must be worried. He and Campbell have recorded a tv interview with that tough interviewer Fern Britton

  14. 43
    Dave "Cast Iron Guarantee" Cameron says:

    Thick As Thieves walks into a pharmacy and asks for some viagra.
    “I am sorry sir, I cannot give you that without a prescription, do you not have one?”
    Thick As Thives replies:
    “No, but take a look at this photo of my wife”

    • 44
      Anonymous says:

      You are Bernard Manning and I claim my £5

    • 56
      Sir William Waad says:

      Fabian Solutions walks into a pharmacy and asks for some deodorant.

      “Ball or aerosol?” asks the assistant.

      “No – it’s for under my arms.”

      • 76
        concrete pump says:

        I laughed……loudly.

        • 104
          julian sneerswagger says:

          “No, but take a look at this photo of my wife”

          I didn’t lol, because we all know he has a boyfriend, not a missus. The dopey fucker missed an open goal. More training needed at the comedy store I’m afraid.

      • 119
        Gerald the Gorilla says:

        Ah. The good ‘ol days of ‘Not the Nine O’Clock News’.

        ‘Was Gerald wild when you captured him?’Gerald interrupts, ‘Wild. I was livid.’
        Happy days!

      • 189
        Mum Rolette says:

        Remove top and push up bottom

  15. 49
    Anonymous says:

    Well with regard to Iain Dales blog, it’s no longer possible to comment anonymously. He also asked why the Tories were doing so badly in local elections and why nationally they seem to be dropping down a few points.

    Do you really not know?

    Most people I speak to say that there isnt much difference between the 2 and that’s true. Europe wont change under them and neither will immigration. We all see Cameron as Blair mark 2, very wary of having another phoney Tony!
    I wrote to my local tory council leader re the council tax level and he didnt even bother to reply.

    In truth the tories really arnt tories, just blue labour. Or to put it more crudely, its like looking at 2 poos down the loo, one looks better than the other; then you realise they are still both shit!

    I was going to vote tory but its UKIP for me now. I’m still a tory but the tories arent. I dont care now whether they win or whether labour get back in.
    The country is fucked any way and the tories arnt going to make any difference. Far too timid with no discernable difference between them and labour.

    Cant wait for retirement now and fuck off and leave you all to pay for labour bankrupting England again. The scots have really fucked England, well and truly!

    • 194
      Anonymous says:

      Why do you Pikeys not accept the rather obvious fact that since the Labour Government has more English members than Scottish ones, and that this is reflected in the Cabinet, then Pikeys must also carry the blame.
      Oh but I forgot you are bigoted little c unts who are as fanatical about your Orwellian mind set as the the Global Warming fraudsters.
      You only see what you want to see.

      • 219
        Growser says:

        Because we wouldn’t have a Labour Government without Scotch Pikeys making up the numbers, of whom unlike English MPs we can not rid ourselves.

        Roll on Scotch Independence.

        BTW I know ‘scotch’is incorrect but I hope it pisses you off.

        • 288
          Guy on Wikipedia.org says:

          117 Celtic MP seats.

          Democratic Unionist (9)
          Plaid Cymru (3)
          Scottish National (7)
          Sinn Fein (5)
          Social Democratic & Labour Party (3)
          Ulster Unionist (1)
          and at least 1 Liberal Democrat.

          Assigning 117 – 28 to Labour would give them 89 seats and that would mean that 261 of their MPs are English with 533 MPs in total being English.

          Of course Labour do not have all the other seats so a majority of English MPs are Labour.

        • 294
          Anonymous says:

          No such thing as Scotch Pikeys since pikeys are those born south of the border and live in a land called Engerlund. You stupid pikey.

      • 255
        Budgie says:

        I think you have to be a little more understanding. We (all of us) have been ruled by the EU provincial government populated in the main by Scots. Apart, of course, from the odd Straw and Blunkett – and boy are they odd. But not as odd as Bliar and McDebt.

        • 292
          Anonymous says:

          No budgie what pisses me off is your failure to recognise it is Socialism that is the problem here not Scottishness. As long as asswipes like you continue to delude yourself with nationalistic bigotry then the supreme Soviet will continue to dominate under your very noses. Ignorant Arsehole that you are.

    • 204
      C.Eng says:

      My sentiments entirely.

      The trouble with buggering off and saying ‘Sod the lot of you’, is that it’s our childrens futures that have been destroyed. They can’t all leave, and why should they have to.

      I guess we all knew Socialism would bankrupt us, but it didn’t occur to many of us that they would cynically destroy the future for decades to come, nor did it occur to us that the Conservative Pary would become NuLabour Mark II.

      Still, as some one has already posted, I’m the only one who gets angry about it in our family because the rest of them are too politically unaware to realise what’s been done to them.

    • 227
      C.Eng says:

      I agree with all this, but for some reason the main man didn’t like the way I said it last time, so this is the short version.

  16. 52
    Sir William Waad says:

    Conservative bloggers support the Conservative Party because they have conservative ideas. Labour bloggers express labour ideas because they support the Labour Party. Green bloggers express green ideas because they like to feel superior to other people.

    • 57
      thick as thieves says:

      and top boy says what he fucking likes because he is top boy.
      innit.

      • 179
        Mr Slater's Parrot says:

        SQUAAAARRRRKK!!!!

        • 226
          TaT's 'special' Gay Friend says:

          So very sad really. Pride isn’t what it used to be. Perhaps the extra strong medication will help. Crack Cocaine use, and other substance abuse really does fry the brain.

          • Mr Slater's Parrot says:

            KRAAAWWKK-KK!! (click) (ting) BALDIE!!!! (cuttle) BRRRRRR-BRRRRRR! BRRRRRR-BRRRRRR! A-AARRKK!!!

  17. 61
    Indigo says:

    Paging Frank Field – I rang BBC Any Answers to complain that, although half the country does not believe that global warming is man-made, the BBC could not manage to put on the panel even one non-believer to represent their views. I was told (as if this would pacify me) that you are to be on next Friday’s Any Questions. I replied, but that’s after Copenhagen.

    I also pointed out to the long-suffering Any Answers call centre person that CO2 levels during the Jurassic and Cambrian ages were 5 or 18 times higher than now, and the planet is still here; that in recorded memory there have been two periods lasting hundreds of years (so-called medieval and Roman warm periods) that were warmer than now, and humanity is still here. Yes, the planet is getting warmer but that’s what you would expect as we come out of the Little Ice Age (skating on the Thames etc etc). I said a few other things as well.

    But I am still furious about the total want of balance. I hope, Frank, that you will berate the BBC for that in such a way that they can’t edit it out before transmission.

    • 131
      Number 7 says:

      Come The Revolution.

      If only.

    • 192
      The Balls Braodcasting Service says:

      Forthwith the once popular programme “Any Questions” and its counterpart “Any Answers” is to be replaced with “Any dissent will not be tolerated”.
      Thank You

      Edward Balls
      Fat Controller
      BBC

    • 218

      Most dinosaurs in the Jurassic were devotees of the then very popular 2-stroke monkey bikes, which led to HGW*.

      *Hadrasaur-made Global Warming

    • 262
      fewqwer says:

      I’m happy for the BBC reinforce the impression that AGW is something only infantile moonbats and professional liars (politicians and journalists) ‘care’about.

      Are you sure you want to present yourself as a spokesman for the forces of reason?

      By the way, what was the sun like 300 million years ago? Warmer or cooler? What about the sea level?

      If natural variation can produce a period warmer than the present even in the absence of human-added CO2, then it’s worse than we thought isn’t it?

      How long before you shout “Fuck off!” and slam the phone down?

      • 270
        Anonymous says:

        Not sure which side your coming down on here. Perhaps you should structure your arguments better.

  18. 67

    probably OT but

    Our local Labour councillors have just sent us a “Season’s Greetings” card, bulk mailing hand delivered to everyone in the ward

    Heavily badged with the red rose etc

    Does that fall within the election materials budget? always supposing that they haven’t pushed the cost onto the local rate payer. Anyone know the specific part of the Act?:

    • 73
      Engineer says:

      Just be grateful it didn’t say “Happy Winterval”.

    • 84
      HASH GORDON (saviour of the universe) says:

      I Always Post Mine Back (Without a stamp) Not Known At This Adress
      How Dare These Scum Walk Up My Drive !

    • 271
      Anonymous says:

      What fucking “season” are they talking about ? Is it the Premier League 2009-2020 season they have in mind, in which case surely they should have pictures of The Arsenal and Old Trafford on the cards and perhaps a quote or two from John Motson and Gary Lineker.

  19. 71
    Engineer says:

    Guido makes it quite clear that he doesn’t toe (or, indeed tow) anybody’s party line. Long may that continue. Round here, we’re free-thinking people who vote according to whichever party or individual best represents us at the time. Except the trolls – they think we’re all conservatives, and therefore act like the deluded and partisan Labour shills that they are.

    Also, we like a bit of a laugh now and then. Don’t get that on Labourlost, and Greens are some of the most humourless people I’ve ever met. All earnestness, not a chuckle for months. What’s the point of life if you can’t have a bit of a giggle at it?

    Maybe that’s one of the fundamental differences between the Left and Right of politics. The Left are far to earnest and up themselves – take it all far too seriously. The Right are a bit more free-thinking and accept that life will never be perfect – hence the wry humour. Think Marcus Brigstocke, and you’ll see what I mean.

  20. 72
    Anonymous says:

    Why can you support an independent Scotland, Ireland and Wales? but be a little Englander if you support an indepedent England?

  21. 74
    HASH GORDON (saviour of the universe) says:

    If Mc Bust had his way we would all be chimney sweeps or sewer rats “The Lower Class” = Labours Core Vote !

  22. 88
    Anonymous says:

    Blair up to his fucking phoney tricks again, appearing on ferns christian show to talk about iraq. wat a Huhne. he really should be prosecuted for war crimes and for inciting hatred. every one i know hates the Huhne!

    • 156
      Anonymous Misogynist says:

      Don’t you mean The Ministry of Truth (BBC) up to their old tricks again?

    • 220
      rocknrolla says:

      Can hardly believe it but there is finally something on the mirror’s terrible site I agree with:

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/columnists/parsons/2009/12/12/we-should-tax-tony-blair-until-he-squeaks-for-mercy-115875-21891067/

      A windfall tax on Tony sounds about right, then put him on trial for treason – he is now admitting to starting a war of aggression because he felt like it and dubya said it would be a good idea while they were eating bbq in texas. British soldiers have died, many more civilians have been killed and he can’t be allowed to get off scot free – he is now basically admitting he lied to parliament and the whole country in order to start a war. Any historians or lawyers here? Anyone know what can be done to get some justice?

      • 246
        C.Eng says:

        Surely you are forgetting that St Tony had divine guidance in that God told him to do it, so he can’t be blamed for any of the results of his actions because he was directed by the Almighty.

        • 264
          Anonymous says:

          Theres only one thing worse than an evil man, and thats a “good” man doing evil for the greater good !

  23. 90
    Anonymous says:

    Is there any difference between the tories and liebour?

    there wont be any difference on the eu or immigration, so i cant vote for them.

    what do they stand for? just economic policy?

    blair mark2?

    bluelabour?
    cameron is woeful

    • 123
      Anonymous says:

      you see, there is no difference between labour and tories, all just as vengeful and full of hate, just as i said

    • 128
      Anonymous says:

      if i wasnt welcome, guido wouldnt have let me post. so are you the new owner then? or are you just like the left? only your view counts?

      you assume too much my friend, your comments are woeful and offensive, just like thebeaandpea

      • 139
        Anonymous says:

        waiting for guido to tell me im not welcome here you fat obnoxious c u n t.

        you are not welcome in our country so fuck off yourself, you snivelling low life scum

      • 143
        Sorry do not pass go do not collect 200 says:

        I hate to agree with thicko but;

        You are not welcome here, Guido has said on many he thinks you are twats, he didn’t call Nick Griffin; Dick Sniffin for no reason now did he.

      • 157
        the pleasure industry says:

        Is there a DVD?

      • 213
        Jaquie Spliff MP says:

        I’ll just check in hubby’s collection he might have it.

  24. 94
    Anonymous says:

    Itler didnt like dissent did he? just like those who prosecute the climate warmin g theory.

    • 106
      My Other Cars Not A Prius Either! says:

      Hitler was a socialist,an enviromentalist,a vegitarian who banned smoking and created many silly uniformed civilian corps not unlike our present dictatorship

      • 112
        Anonymous says:

        he certainly believed in a form of population control! he just killed them all

        • 135
          Tomorrow belongs to????? says:

          He did admire his best mate Ernst Roehm and his Brownshirt “chums” though(until he had him and them killed) and he loved his dog too(whom he had killed) and his niece, Geli Raubal(until he drove her to shoot herself ).he was very loyal to Mussolini(until he was shot)and he did quite like the Goebbels family and especiallyadored the Goebbels children(until their parents killed them and themselves)and he tolerated Eva Braun(until she killed herself)and finally having run out of people he liked he poisoned and shot himself……..There’s a thread emerging there I think … don’t be bestmates with Hitler!!!!

          • Legion decrees says:

            We have returned.

          • Doc Trough says:

            He wasn’t a vegetarian though. Stephen of Uppingham said so on QI. I reckon Gefreiter Schickelgrueber liked his Eintopf mit Speck as much as the next Eilos dictator.

      • 235

        Herr Schickelgruber nailed the lie that you can’t be both a vegetarian and a coprophiliac.

  25. 100
    Pricky Gayes says:

    So why did you completely ignore the hilarious story about Douglas Carswell claiming £800 for a love seat – if not that you too exercise double standards?

  26. 101
    Hive attack says:

    “There is a lesson here….”

    The lesson is that lefties are like programmed worker ants with no individualism, or one single independent thought.

  27. 102
    Proper Mackem Lad says:

    No one wants to read what gay boy Will Straw has to say anyway

  28. 105
    Legion decrees says:

    Religion is old

  29. 111
    Watt Tyler says:

    (2009) New Labour M.P. Douglas Alexander -LEECH ON THE TAXPAYER http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/2009-new-labour-m-p-douglas-alexander-leech-on-the-taxpayer/

    George Osborne, “Mistress Pain”, and cocaine: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/236-george-osborne-m-p/

  30. 122
    caesars wife says:

    “Cheeta Woods” thankyou for that post , outdid the sun !!
    There are some canny people who blogg on here LOL

    • 144
      Vote Vote Vote for Jacqui. says:

      hy aint none of Tiger’s tarts black?
      Everyone so far has been an overweight blond bimbo.
      Is he rasist?
      See TaT,no double spaving,I’m fucking cured.

  31. 127
    the ghost of bob monkhouse says:

    Do you make these jokes up? No, you cut and paste them from a ‘joke’book on the internet, and most of them aren’t even fucking funny.

    I rest my case.

  32. 133
    Maddy Industry Spokesperson says:

    Kate and Gerry are to make an emotional return to the apartment where Maddy disappeared.

    • 134
      Elf'n'Safety Officer says:

      Don’t forget to lock the door this time.

      • 175
        What Carter Ruck do not want you to hear says:

        They know where she is because it was them that got rid of her.

        • 209
          Watching the World Go By says:

          If public self-flagellation makes them feel better, then why not? But parading their “grief” year after year is starting to look a bit suspicious.

        • 215
          Sungei Patani says:

          What kind of sick mind would make a posting like this?

          Unless that is you have some real evidence that is. Perhaps you can share it.

          • Porto Potti says:

            Apparently they are going to do a rerun of the night to try and jog peoples memories

            So that will be put two kids and a baby in the bedroom and go to the the other side of the complex on the piss for the next 3 hours then

          • nell says:

            Actually I think what really went on is closely akin to what has happened in Guernsey.

            I think Amaral had a pretty good idea of who did the deed, and acted to cover it up.

            And,of course, the Portuguese people want to make the McCanns into villians because their tourist trade has suffered from their rubbish police performance in the search for madeleine.

            Why would anyone want to go on holiday there now , when they know they will never be protected by these ‘keystone cop’people!!

          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Well said, Sungei!

          • What Carter Ruck do not want you to hear says:

            Sungei ask yourself this if they have nothing to hide why have the got carter ruck on the case to block detective Amaral’s book and documentary from being sold and seen in the UK?

          • What Carter Ruck do not want you to hear says:

            Also what kind of sick people use donation money to pay bits of a mortgage off with while their daughter is missing?

          • Sungei Patani says:

            What evidence do you have for these wholly unpleasant slurs?

            Just making these sort of statements without any justification, when you are accusing parents who have lost a child is sick in the extreme.

  33. 136
    Stupid is as stupid does. says:

    I wonder what the 1000+ union members i.e. ex workers (see: thickos) at the recently closed Corus plant think about being kicked out on the dole so the owners with the help of their friend ex EU trade commissioner Peter Mandelson could make a cool billion in cash from carbon credits?

    I wonder how the feel while they where losing their jobs that their Union didn’t care about them enough to help, Unite was too busy spending it’s subs on printing out ‘Stop the facist B*N*P*’& ‘Stop the facist EDL’banners and arranging buses for activists to travel to Nottingham.

    Where was the great working man’s party then?

    Still thinking of voting Labour, thickos?

    • 155
      bergen says:

      When Corus was bought by Tata,it was obvious that when the blast furnaces from the old BSC reached the end of their working lives,they would not be replaced but “unfinished”product from the third world would be imported instead.

      Within a decade no more iron ore will be smelted here even though we first devised the processes.

      Labour do not care-remember Blair lobbying the EU for Mittal to buy a Romanian steelworks after he had given a bung to the party coffers.

    • 181
      resurgemus says:

      You might also ask why Unite bankrolled the people who destroyed more manufacturing jobs than any other government and continued to suck up to the man who stole their members’pensions .

      • 214
        Watching the World Go By says:

        Don’t worry. They’ll soon be giving the Tories hell for trying to rebuild the nation’s finances and manufacturing base to narrow the poverty gap and deliver work for their members.

    • 238
      C.Eng says:

      Perhaps if Dave wore a cloth cap and kept pigeons he might stand a chance, but I suspect they’d still vote labour even as the lid was nailed down.

      • 248
        nell says:

        Well now mandy has deserted gordon since gordon failed to nominate him for the EU Foreign Minister’s job.

        The only people who are going to vote for gordon are the one’s on benefits.

        And most of those don’t even bother to vote at all.

        I suspect gordon is in trouble here!!!!

  34. 141
    do us a favour says:

    Anybody wanting to cut and paste their own jokes between wanks, please visit this site, or hundreds of other sites like it, and save yourself the pain of reading them on here as posted by’Dave “Cast Iron Guarantee” Cameron.’
    It’s a no brainer.

  35. 148
  36. 151
    Watt Tyler says:

    (2009) New Labour M.P. Douglas Alexander -LEECH ON THE TAXPAYER http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/2009-new-labour-m-p-douglas-alexander-leech-on-the-taxpayer/

  37. 152
    Watt Tyler says:

    George Osborne, “Mistress Pain”, and cocaine: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/236-george-osborne-m-p/

    • 265
      13eastie (145 Days: Good-bye, Gordon!) says:

      Who gives a shit?

      Labour’s £1Trillion debt is costing us £100m/day in interest alone.

      More than £1,000 every second.

  38. 180
    large piece says:

    I’m voting for Gordon Brown at the next election, Wednesdays just wouldn’t be the same without Mrrrrr Mrrrrrr Mrrrrrr Mrrrrrrrr Speaker.

  39. 187
    Anonymous says:

    Could I suggest that following the “well deserved” presentation of the nobel peace prize to the messianic President Obama , that he be allowed to keep it since no one will ever deserve it more than him.
    In its place can I further suggest we introduce the Tiger Woods Nobel “Integrity” prize which can be presented every year at The University of East Anglia .
    Comments ?

  40. 208
    Pole Star says:


    ComRes poll for the Independent on Sunday:

    Con 41% (+4)
    Lab 24% (-3)
    LD 21% (+1)
    Others 14% (-2)
    Incl Green 5% (+1)
    UKIP 4% (-2)

  41. 234
    State of the Nation says:

    ComRes Poll

    Thieving,bastard,EU cocksucking,chimney sweeping Conservative party;41%
    Thieving,bastard,EU cocksucking,chimney sweeping Labour party;24%
    Thieving,bastard,EU cocksucking Lib Dem party;21%
    Others;Fighting amongst themselves.

  42. 274
    legless and angry says:

    tat/tit/tot/tut
    youre a cun’t. I reckon you’re a muslim pretending to be a whatever (top boy?) don’t make me larf!!! I’m one of these cripples you are so keen to rubbish but the thing is tat I’m an amputee.
    And I fucken hate your attitude. you’re scum the lowest common denominator and I reckon that I could best you in a match of Queensbury Rules. You need to unnerstan you’s a cun’t. you need to feel the ire of people that get irate with the shite that drips out your mouth. top boy? nah you’s a spacker lover you have obviously been spurned by some dude with one great leg and it hurts. I’m not surprised in your 16 byears on earth you haven’t even approached a woman in fact woman scare you with their feminine charms. one day, your wish will come true and you might even fondle a woman’s breast but until then, I’m watching and will take great pleasure in winding your effeminate arse up you have picked on the wrong disability.
    try me you spacker wishing hermaphrodite.
    runskippyrun@aol.com
    cun’t.
    you’re a bob ainsworth.

  43. 284
    Harriet Harman says:

    Just for reference, I haven’t slept with Tiger Woods.

  44. 285
    Tabby Forest says:

    Somebody with PhotoShop has built a picture of me with a few slappers. As I would always open with a 9 iron so it’s easy to spot the forgery.



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