James Macintyre says that his Downing Street sources say that their private polling shows Labour ahead in the polls.
Not sure if this is the same source that told him Blair would be President of Europe…
LibDemVoice Ignores Party’s Censorious Illiberalism – Shane Frith
Election is a Battle for Hearts More than Minds – Matthew D’Ancona
Will MacShane Stop Writing for The Guardian? – Iain Dale
Speculators Are Doing God’s Work – Paul Murphy
Labour “Won’t Increase Taxes” – Adam Smith Institute
Brussels is Run by and for Lobby Groups - Dan Hannan
How Liberal / Authoritarian is Your MP? – LibdemVoice
SNP Demand Purcell Cocaine & Crooks Investigation – Holyrood
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Ben Wallace MP, Tory shadow spokesman for Scotland, says…
“Scotland’s biggest Labour donor is in receipt of millions of pounds of Labour-controlled government funds. It’s back to the old Labour days: it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.”
-Gilts (Mar)
As of 26 Feb 2010
Flat – No Positions
As of 23 Feb 2010 +30.81%
-Gilts (Mar)
As of 19 Feb 2010 +20.13%
If Labour are ahead, then Brown must have the courage to call a GE.
As if.
Sarah says he’s too shy to call an election.
Sorry, that should be ‘too fucking shit scared’
The Inquisition
How much more will the WAR in Afghanistan cost the country. This fraudulent War to back a fraudulent government responsible for the worlds heroin supply. Dosn’t make any sense unless you read the Politics of Heroin by Alfred McCoy. Capitalism don’t like War.
The Tories wont get in as its all the same BS. Nothing ever changes in this bankrupt undemocratic country. You can only get a doctorate or work in education if you follow the political establishment. Any one questioning the State is Sacked. Dyke. Bull, Kelly. No he got assasinated, I mean suicide?
What happened to OBAMA and change. I don’t see any change Same War Same Strategy. He has obviously come up against the prevailing power in the US and it ain’t in the White House. Democracy my Arse who have we been kidding ? At least the Communist Chinese No how to run a Capitalist monetary Policy. Ha Ha It would be laughable if it wasn’t as serious. How many people are to lose their homes because big Ear Big Ego Bliar took us to WAR.
If only we believed David Kelly on WMD so many people would still be alive today.I just hope he doesnt come back to haunt us.
I reckon some Labour apparatchiks are trying to trick the Tories into attacking Labour so hard that the public are turned off by the apparent kicking of a down-and-out.
Of course the Tories are much too sensible to get caught out by such silly psychological games…
http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/is-labour-trying-to-play-psychology-with-the-psephology/
Let the sad phucks in the bunker belive the bullshit !
As for the “New ” Statesman, well talk about a lack of credibility. The whole country knows Brown and his henchmen are fucked.
brown didn’t call an election two years ago because his private pollsters told him he’d get a good kicking.
things have got even worse for brown in the last two years so the only conclusion I can reach on this matter is that:
JAMES MACINTYRE IS A FUCKING LIAR INNIT.
desperate, desperate stuff from brown’s thugs to keep brown in a job until the next election.
’twill be a hung parliament.
there is no question of that.
Unleash or client state dole hordes, unleash them on this nation!
Mwwaa hahaha
as long as they get off their backsides and vote for the new labour war party you would have a point.
however, you have so dumbed down and lazied up the benefit scroungers that I think the only way you will get them to turn up is if they can collect their dole money when they vote.
which isn’t possible.
oh well, hung parliament it is then.
or you can give em free burgers
Unleash them on the hoons who have totally Mangledbummed their chances of ever getting anything beyond more depraved more like.
James Macintyre says that his Downing Street sources say that their private polling shows Labour ahead.
Not surprising when call me Cast Iron Dave has thrown so many potential votes away on his broken cast iron guarantee.
Blatant spin. I prefer to believe the betting market.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/11/23/mori-moves-the-labour-spread-by-just-one-seat/
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Labour = Election losers
e=mc^2
thick as thieves=top boy.
thick as thieves = bottom boy = gayer = arsebandit
said the rimmer.
No you twat, Financial Misconduct = Labour; Sexual Misconduct = Conservatives.
Me I’d infinitely rather be governed by shaggers who know how to enjoy themselves rather than by thieves solely intent on stopping any of us having a good time.
Labour are heading for another 18 years in the political wilderness and extremely well deserved it is too.
Inquisition = fuckwit
Spin is only another word for avoiding telling the truth.
Or as some people say :-
Lying!!!!
Macintyre…….New Statesmans cum swapper.
I think it is something to do with Dave, I can’t quite put my finger on it but he has recently come across as one Who can NOT be trusted.
So lets just stick with Brown then, shall we?
I’d rather stick pins in my eyes!
gorgon did that and buggered one of them
What’s the point of Cameron?
He won’t hold a Euro referendum.
He won’t build the 3rd runway at Heathrow
He puts windmills on his roof
He does drugs
He takes photoshoots in wargraves
His financial policies changes with the wind
He fiddles his 2nd home mortgage
He believes he causes climate change
He won’t scrap the 50p tax
He wants to keep interest rates artificially low(today anyway)
Just what is the point of Him?
Thanks Gordon = lickspittle fuckwit
I think it fair to say that you would still vote Labour if the Cabinet gang raped your wife…what a compete sucker.
So he’s not all bad then?
He won’t build a third runway at heathrow?
Not all bad then ?
The point of Dave is that he is not Gordon.
Gordon helps to fill the wargraves by underequiping his cannon fodder.
Yes indeed Cameron is a lying Hoon, but Brown is still worse. What a fucking shame that this nation is incapable of producing someone worth leading us.
David Cameron was cloned in a pod from a lump of Blair’s shit. His back story is a fantasy put about by the lizards.
You’re suggesting the New Statesman should be re-branded the Newts’ Placeman ??
It takes a real “expert” to lose out against Broon & co even in opinion polls.
I can understand why Gordon is so popular, given that he is giving £825 million to India and £1 million to cumbria. Gordon is a very generous man, with other people`s money.
As Workington and Cockermouth is a Labour stronghold it is easy to see why the natives are greatful for the million squid in Gordon’s right hand and are oblivious to the 825 million squid his left hand is giving to India (a nuclear and space power)
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page14329
Gordon is also going to build 13 (unlucky for some) Universities in India and can’t even find one Bailey bridge for his fellow countrymen.
It’s the right thing to do.
The Gorgon:
It is right that India should have a space program, and it is entirely right that we should finance it. Many hardworking people I have spoken to in Cumbria agree with me on this point. We are making a difference unlike the do-nothing party opposite.
£825m to india?! How much is gay gordon giving to the other BRIC nations (Brazil, Russia and China)?!
He truly is a fucking moron….
Unbelievable, when we have so many children lacking the basics in education that gorgon gives nearly a billion to educate foreign children, and not just any children, the future workers of a nation who will be a dominant superpower. Gorgon really is the worst prime minister in british history – and that’s saying something.
Not to mention building prisons in Nigeria, while serious, serial criminals are let out early in the UK, because of prison cell shortages.
I used to think ZaNuLab were incompetent, now I realise they are just pure evil.
Hasn’t India just bought from the IMF 200 tonnes of gold for $6.7 billion? Gordon’s (sorry, ours) £825 million prezzy (plus, presumably a wedge from the USA & other generous buggers) will have helped out nicely.
He doesn’t pay any attention to the polls, remember? He’s just getting on with the job (of wrecking what is left of the economy, jobs, pensions….).
I’m no friend of Brown, but I’ll be voting labour with Polly, Toilets, Marr, and Toenails.
So that’s 100% support and an increased majority! Well done, Gordon.
A wise move.
When Liebour gets back in again at least it will have the dubious pleasure of shovelling its way out from under the enormous pile of economic sh*te that 12 years of treasonous Marxist misrule have excreted. That means hello to the IMF within 2 weeks of a return to office, a crushed currency, vast unemployment, wealth destruction on a scale not seen since Cockermouth, and etc.
Bravo lads, Liebour will be buried under its own giant Brownian turd for ever.
Long therefore may they rule and ruin, For the most reactionary Conservative leader who takes over thereafter (and it will not be the heir to Bliar) will have carte blanche to slash and burn across the public and quasi- public sectors, end welfare dependency and “entitlement” , repatriate every last extremist and follower of the camel riders, reinstate respect for the rule of law and generally reintroduce a modicum of the common sense that not so long ago was the hallmark of this country.
You did forget to mention that if New Labour got back in, the credit agencies would INSTANTLY downgrade the UK’s credit worthiness from the current AAA rating to junk status.
I agree with voting labour next time (vote Labour – get IMF) – but I think that to regain control of our immigration policy the UK also has to leave the EU. Still, heir of Brown will probably be able to at least propose it without major embarrassment…
I’m not a supporter of Brown but I think that his ability to look good in a flood is winning back voters. I’m not a Brown fan but back in 2007 he looked good in a flood situation too.
I believe that there is a massive flood, or a dam can be arranged to burst, in April 2010 then Gordon will call an election.
I’m no fan of Gordon but I expect him to win.
Mrs L.B.R. Troll
So that El Gordo can plug the breach with his body and win outstanding praise as a hero, like the little dutch boy sticking his finger in a hole in a dyke,trouble is he would not be able to escape.
I’m sorry but Gordon did not look good in a flood in 2007 , ask anyone in Gloucestershire. He doesn’t look good in Cumbria presently. But he will look good nailed to the front door of number 10 anytime soon.
Not the door of No 10. It is not busy enough. He is why there is still an empty plinth in Trafalgar Square. Just put a spike of wrought iron into it so that we have something to display the thieving pensions rapist from.
I’m not a fan of Brown in fact I think he is a raving lunatic and the sooner the men in white coats arrive the better.
p.s. why are non friends and non supporters of fxxcking retarded brown flooding these sites with eulogies of him? I hope taxpayer’s money is not funding it or if it is which department of state is running it?
Eulogies? Er, irony.
Labour ahead of who though??? Monster Raving Loony Party perhaps.
Ahead of whom? The Monster Raving looney Party.
Though at least it may make the Conservatives up their game and not take anythng for granted.
W.W.
Though never underestimate the skills of the Dark Lord, he will be pulling every trick in his book.
And it’s a big book.
W.W.
pulling every dick in his nook more like. And it’s a big nook.
The Dark Lord is always pulling – you just don’t know whose it is
All this talk of a hung Parliament could backfire on Liebour – it will make people think twice about votes for UKIP and get out a lot the tactical voters who want to see anyone but Liebour win the election.
Dave may be looking a bit more human over the past few weeks, but the massive ABL vote should see him past the post.
The masochist in me thinks it would be quite funny to seen Broon get back in, and have to clear up his own scorched earth mess without the IMF knocking on the door – cue another election very quickly afterwards
fuck off steve.
the next parliament will be a hung parliament with the conservatives holding the most seats. they will enter into a pact with the libdems.
welcome to the future steve. top boy speaks and the future is shaped.
suck it up.
oh shit, I shouldn’t have said that, it will probably trigger your crackcocaine cravings.
You may be right about the hung parliament tat, and I could see the LDs and the Tories co-operating to keep Labour out, even if not forming a formal coalition.
But as I said above, all this talk of the stalemate outcome makes a larger Tory victory MORE likely, as people turn out to vote and vote for the party most likely to kick out the incumbants. Same as in 1997.
nah, not the same as 1997.
the EU carve up, the economy and the expenses fraud are the main differences.
politicians are considered by the public to be as thick as thieves and the swing vote this time is not disaffected tories but benefit claimants.
big differences steve, very big differences.
the probability of a hung parliament is an outcome directly caused by the politicians own criminal and deceitful behaviour. to expect some sort of workable majority for the conservative party, a party whose leader is a thief and benefit cheat is just wishful thinking on the tories part.
a hung parliament will prevent any leader shooting off doing their own thing like thatcher and blair and brown have done.
it is called democracy steve, and judging by the comments on this thread the tories do not like it.
tough shit innit.
Similar to 1997 is the general feeling that the government has run its course and needs to be replaced. Expect there to be lots of tactical voting as there was in 1997, designed to achieve this. Expect Tories to vote SNP or LD if they have the best chance at giving Labour a kicking!
Also there is the issue of trust in politics and expenses – expect more tactical voting to unseat incumbents of all colours no matter how safe they thought their seats were (Alan Duncan is the first name that springs to mind there!)
It must be interesting to poll all these ‘erm, postal voters.
Labour pollster: If there was a GE called tomorrow, who would you be voting for?
Postal voter: Labour. 50 times.
Vote early, vote often!
It’s the (US) Democratic thing to do.
Mock not you are too close to the truth, except I think the postal voter answer would be more likely a 100 given that clan chiefs can command the votes of whole streets of illiterates in some parts of what was once Britain.
Simples , Its shit
Downing Street sources…the cleaners, the security blokes, the cat?
Does anyone give a flying fig for anything that spews forth from the Bunker anymore…apart from Toilets, Toenails and the BBC?
As a parting shot, just why IS Toenails called Toenails?
He so far up Brown’s chuff, that’s all that can be seen.
Ugh! What an image………..
I’ve just had and lost my lunch!!
Watch the Gorgon closely next time he’s on the telly. When he opens his mouth wide enough you can just make out a glint by his uvula. It’s Toenails’ specs.
Toenails – explained as I can see, but where did toilets get his name?
Unfortunate predilection for snooping on ladies using loos. Nulab seems to attract some really very squalid types.
Now that people have wised up to the nulab postal vote scams, you’d have to be a very sick puppy to see them retaining more than a rump of core seats.
Meanwhile,back in Cumbria….
The BBC media machine sends scores of reporters to the region,dare I say flood the place with reporters?
Then we get the total crap of 15 minutes ago on BBC News channel with one tosser standing in a shop with shopkeeper;
Reporter; “So what’s this?” (pointing to a Wall’s ice cream freezer)
Shopkeeper; “It’s an ice cream freezer”
Reporter; “And that’s a coffee machine” (obviously a clever bloke,this one)
Shopkeeper; “Yes”
Reporter; Doesn’t say anything,simply looks at shopkeeper and pulls a Brown’esque gurn as if to say – “shit,what else can I possibly bollock on about to fill this 2 minute slot?”
Shopkeeper; Gurns in return.
Reporter; “Well,lets go to X who is at bridge y which is about to collapse at any time”
Bridge Reporter; “Thanks,yes the bridge closure here is causing traffic chaos here”
And the point of this crap is?
to get to the bit where they tell us Gordon saved every man, woman, child, cat, dog, and budgie in Cumbria.
f*ckin BBC
But why can’t Brown just simply drop dead?
But, but, but…he gave Cumbria a million pounds!
That’s nearly as much as Simon Cowell earns in a week.
Go and screw yourself Sarah – evidently you have to anyway,so we have heard.
self-insemination, its called
Wandering around someone’s wrecked home in galoshes, a gloating beeboid asked a householder, ‘How do you feel?’ and was roundly told to use his imagination. With any luck, one of them will be moved to dunk a beeboid’s head under the water and give them a massive dose of dysentry.
well it only happens once in a thousand years, after all. Either that or annually, I can never remember which.
just reminding you who’s Boss…
Locusts, as someone else predicted, look imminent!
It’s great in Belgium, pissing down, bit at 400 mts…
Maybe if all the journalists in Cumbria got out of the water, the level might fall enough to save some of these homes and businesses they seem to be gloating so much about being ruined…
> And the point of this crap is?
So they don’t have to report that the IPCC report and AGW is a fraud?
that is a happy coincidence but in all honesty we’d never have let the public hear about that anyway, indeed we had a special programme lined up just in case to smear those who talk about it as closet racists.
the reason we spent so much time and money following the floods is that in 2007 we know Prime Minister Brown (how proud I am to say that) performed so well in the face of natural disasters, he can stand in front of the camera, say he will help, pledge other peoples money and nobody argues. So we had to be there to cover every angle of Brown’s triumph.
It is a new labour myth that Brown managed the floods in 2007 well. He did fuck all about anything. Local people and councils etc did the work. Brown took the credit, as is his usual position. Can’t we just nail this once and for all – nail him to the front door of downing street – they’d be a journo/photo opportunity like no other for him then
Fighters and Believers, Comrades, Fighters and Believers.
I don’t believe you are a fighter jimmy.
you’ve got no balls.
innit.
True. The wife has mine.
Wrong on Jedward.
Wrong on Susan Boyle.
Wrong at every turn. The do nothing party.
Wrong on the flood
Wrong on the causes of the flood
Wrong on the bridges
Wrong on the causes of the bridges falling AND which ones falling
Wrong on the plastic gloves for shopkeepers
Oh and here’s £1M to help the region.
Average house price in Cumbria; £128,000
£1m divided by £128,000 = 7.8 homes.
No wonder the Army is under resourced and under equipped – this criminal Brown is a total Soviet criminal.
£1m aid for Cumbria announced by Brown last week – £172.5m aid announced for Ethiopia last week.
plus several billion more for the Indian space exploration programme.
this aid for Cumbria is money that is already targetted for the area IT IS NOT NEW
7.8 home. That’s handy as it exactly the number of homes left.
£825,000,000 for India, a nuclear and space power, £172,000,000 for Ethiopia and £1,000,000 for Cumbria. The hoon quite literally, hates the British to his core.
Lets not forget 5 bullets per soldier sent into a war zone, ZaNuLab are utter filth.
CASH is KING
£1 M today OK
BILLIONS TOMORROW OK
More than £1 M today – SORRY AIN’t got it – ASK ALISTAIR
It is all part of his cunning plan!
Buying votes for President of the World!
I wish the IMF would hurry up and come, then the voters would really see how fracked our “country” is
All in good time
I think you’ll find their kitty is empty by now. When that bloated turd Healey called them in last time around, the fuckwittery had not been global but confined to this country.
P.S. It’s about time Healey died. Then the BBC can canonize him.
deeznuts,
U a BSG fan too?
BSG ??…….ive read the BFG !!! whats a BSG ?
“Not sure if this is the same source that told him Blair would be President of Europe…”
Probably.
McMong and his jock cronies will be looking to being in Hamad Karzi for advice on how to rig a poll.
Just ask the person in charge of the UKBA. She has experience from Birmingham……………..
Typical bollocks that we’ll have to put up with till the next poll.
See Guido? When you comment on things you understand you can do some amusing/interesting stuff.
Well done you.
said the patronising oaf.
thick as thieves = bottom boy = bummer
mandelson is that you?
leave me alone you woolly woofter.
OT: I didn’t realise Afghanistan was also an oil war. Stands to reason – we know Iraq was and they lied about it, we’ve heard every lame excuse for Afghanistan apart from oil. Must be the big secret they know is so sensitive after Iraq it cannot ever be aired in public.
Word is they want to stabilize the country enough to run a pipeline through it.
So now we know! The more things change…
from and to where?
will there be signs every 20 yards telling the friendly locals to leave it alone?
The Unocal pipeline is old hat.
The ‘war’ is fuck all to do with Osama Bin Liner, Alka Eeda or bringing democracy to the poor Afghanizanians.
Last time I looked, Afghanistarrrrrrrrnnnn bordered that forward thinking, oil rich, pro western and friendly country of IRAN.
Don’t they just love having half a million US Marines on their border.
Why do you keep repeating the pipeline shit ? its utter bollox, get the fricken atlas out and see for yourself !
Maybe so, maybe not. One thing is certain though Afghanistan has massive mineral deposits, that can only be mined, if the population there is pacified.
“Undiscovered petroleum resources in the assessed region of northern Afghanistan range from 3.581 to 36.462 trillion cubic feet (TCF) of natural gas, with a mean of 15.687 TCF. Estimates of oil range from 0.391 to 3.559 billion barrels (BBO), with a mean of 1.596 BB0. Estimates for natural gas liquids range from 126 to 1,325 million barrels (MMB) with a mean of 562 MMB.”
Add to that massive copper, tantalum and potential gold deposits, Afghanistan makes so much more sense as an economic proposition. The war is not about freeing anyone, saving anything or even giving democracy.
Wise up people.
hey, labour trailing by 6% *is* a lead in a GE, the way they have rigged the vote….
Vote rigging ? You’re not suggesting that Neather was telling the truth ??
Indeed. The Tories could win the popular vote comfortably yet Labour could still win a majority. Labour will be routed in most of England, of course, but if they can get ‘their people’ out to vote in their marginals, they could yet cling onto power.
To be honest, I can see Labour winning because they are prepared to do anything to remain in power and they have the tools of government at their disposal. And as is all too obvious, Gordon Brown is more than happy to use public resources for partisan purposes.
And if I do I wake up on 7 May and find Gordon Brown is still prime minister, I shall close my business and move to Germany. I simply cannot face (or afford) another five years of Labour Party government.
If you wake up on 7th May and Brown has won an election then by 8 o’clock when the financial markets open the British pound will have lost 25% against every major currency and by 1:01PM, a minute after opening time on Wall Street Fitch will have downgraded UK PLC.
Before you go to bed interest rates will be at 8%
It will be too late to sell up and even if you do sell up your GBP will buy you fuck all in Germany.
I’ll be there by lunchtime
go easy on the cocaine jgm2.
it makes you talk bollocks.
gordon brown has got more chance of being assassinated than he has of winning the next election.
do keep up.
thankyou.
I hope you’re right about the assassination thing tat.
Brown looks as if gerbils have been pissing in his hair.
Yeah, I hope you’re right about it too. The fucker deserves to be double tapped.
so do I.
it would be fucking great to see that c’unts brains blown out all over sarah’s lap.
but it would though, wouldn’t it?
and how the crowds would laugh and cheer!
we could even hold a national sniper’s day to commemorate the event.
National snipers Day.
I like it.
There’s just one teeny problem. The fucker is still alive.
nothing a well aimed bullet wouldn’t remedy.
they assassinated JFK, why not brown?
thick as thieves = bottom boy = gayer = mattress muncher
Good riddance you pompous oaf.
Dave can fuck off, I would rather live in a communist country with Brown at the leader, at least you know where you stand.
Dave is a fucking wanker giving us hope with a “cast iron” guarantee then just saying naaaaahhh
Very good, MB.
You ARE living in a communist country, you chump.
Brown is NOT the leader though.
You are NOT a country any more, either. You are just a satellite state of the EUSSR.
Yes indeedy, – but I do think Tone has done awfully well for himself, – and his missus.
I think many people do.
Blairstrip One
Postman Pat, Postman Pat
Postman Pat and his black and white cat
Rumpy pumpy pumpy
Ear-lie in the morning …
BWAAAA-ha-ha-ha !!
Excellent point Jo!
I am not usually a Gordon Brown fan! I was under the impression that Mr Brown had made an election manifesto pledge to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/constitution. And there’s me thinking that it was not Mr Cameron’s fault because he is not the PM and could do nothing about it!
Silly old me!
Long live the elected leader of our country, bravely battling to keep Britain afloat (sic)!
Brown and Election Pleadge?
Brown doesn’t do elections!!!
dosen’t do manifestos that are worth a shit either by the looks
Remember Mike its not a constitution. So fortunately we didn’t need a referendum.
Its a “tidying up exercise” nothing worth worrying about at all.
Meanwhile we are now at war with Oceania, we have always been at war with Oceania…
Blair made that pledge
Blair also pledged to serve a full term. Brown made a liar of him over that too. Not that Blair needed any encouragement to be made a liar.
Tone Bliar was really awful mendacious shit, but his follow up act makes him look like a superstar.
I can’t believe I am saying this, but Bliar was a class act once. He pissed all the potential away and made us (and himself) look like turds .
I bloody hate liebour (and the tories)
Great to see that state education paying off.
Gordon Brown – proof that there IS life after death and it’s not all that pleasant.
There was an economically illiterate hoon called Brhoon,
Who, for some unaccountable reason, thought ‘He’ was the brightest ‘Man’ in toon.
Every banker
Thought ‘Him’ a wanker
And played ‘Him’ like the fool ‘He’ was (is)
Wasn’t Jackie Ashley saying recently she had been told private polling suggested labour were doing even worse than was thought. Who to believe? Ashley, Macintyre or the weight of publically available polls?
Don’t forget if 10 people when asked say they will vote Labour I expect on the day around 6 of them will, the rest can’t be bothered to get off their arse or are not registered ( because they are lazy, disorganised scum )
If 10 people say they will vote Tory – you can bet that at least 8 of them will.
As the Glenrothes results prove – if 10 people say they will vote Labour then they will. Twice. At least.
As a real election nears there is a tightening in the polls.
Predictions of a Labour 10 seat majority if realised would make some laugh and laugh and laugh.
Hahahaha
STOP CACKLING LIKE THAT AND GET BACK IN YOUR NICE PADDED ROOM !
Bollocks as usual from Master Wanker.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/11/23/is-alex-right-about-the-system-bias-towards-labour/
As defeat looms there is a tightening of the prime ministerial scrotum…….Gordon has only 15 days left to save the world!
Save the world? He is not up to speed re: Climategate?
Silly me, nobody is supposed to have noticed, that the cat is well and truly out of the proverbial global warming bag.
tell that to the bbc…….they arte still banging on about global warming across the news today , ffs !
Quite correst Sir William – incidently did I give you the Sirship? You must come round for dinner. Sarah is splendid at cooking.
Any way, yes, 15 days, that’s erm 8th December, right.
Oh shit, I’ve got an opticians appointment that day. Harrumph, I’ll have to delay things for a while ….. now, where’s my diary…….?
As a life long conservative, I hope to see labour re-elected. It would be fascintating to watch brown handle the aftermath of his incompetent destruction of the economy. I can imagine the riots now.
If I was wealthy and lived overseas it would be great fun to watch him twitch and gurn himslef to death.
BUT I am not wealthy and I live here and have two children whose financial lives are ruined by this Brown c*unt.
Let me have just one minute with him.
You will have to get in the back of the long queue, which is very, very long! Most of us would like to “have a go”
No I don’t. I would much rather Labour than the Tories any day.
So that’s you AND Brown to be strung up by the bollocks then. We know where you live
He’d probably claim that he’s just discovered a previously unknown financial problem left over from the last Tory Government that’s going to neccessitate doubling taxes and halving public services.
I have to ask you a very delicate question ” are you a sadist?” that can be the only logical explanation for someone wanting Labour to be re-elected.
Dormant Dave’s doing all he can to see your dream come true.
Simon, your wish is superficially appealing if we could organise some kind of experiment where only those people voting Labour were exposed to the full consequences of their (imbecile) actions. Unfortunately since the rest of us also have to suffer the consequences I am unwilling to be party to food riots, troops on the street and martial law just for the entertainment of seeing a few Labour voters get shot.
get a fucking job jgm2 FFS and stop wasting our time with your piffle.
you dole scrounging c’unt.
Riots may be the case when an IOU, newly printed by Merv, arrives instead of the weekly Giro.
good fucking point.
Nice thought but unlikely, you know Jeremy Kyle starts about 9:30 these days and it’s on 3 times a day!
How could one possibly riot with prospect of missing such a highlight of televisual entertainment?
I could riot on Jeremy Kyle’s head and day
If you are poor and live overseas it is a mixture of I told you all so, morbid amusement and utter horror!
“James Macintyre says that his Downing Street sources say that their private polling shows Labour ahead in the polls.”
He’d even be laughed out of the Union of Black Propaganda for that one.
Hahahahahahahaha…
It was private polling within Downing Street.
and Labour won with a 7,234 seat majority
Did they ‘lose’ the voters register again as well
2010 Election Results are secure in the No 10 safe, I have seen them.
The poll results have been scrutinised in advance by the newly appointed EU labour stooge and approved for release whenever a GE is called.
LibDems – 17%
Tories – 44%
Others – 9%
Labour – 85%
Therefore giving Brown a majority of 742 for another 5 year plan.
The defeat that Brown will suffer will be so great,so astonishing and so utterly devasting for the Labour Party that it will never again function as an organisation.
One can dream.
…and you think that it is currently functioning as a machine?
Speaking of clapped out old bangers I’ve got back to an image of the EU and Rosa Klebb…[runs away to be violently sick!]
I haven’t read the New Statesman since Rik Mayall left.
Is anyone else planning to leave the country if Labour win the next election?
Sooty and Sweep?
I doubt they could afford to. The impact on the Treasury tax-take would be nil in this case.
Bye bye everyone, bye bye!
No. Having outlived the Soviet Union I am determined to outlive the Labour Party, the BBC and Last of the Summer Wine also.
It’s just the prospect of another 4 years of Labour is so depressing. I could always return in 2014, I suppose.
It would be funny for a bit though, to see his face when he realised he had to deal with the consequences of his ’scorched earth’
Also would have to write to Dunfermline Library – Dear Sirs, due to unforseen circumstance I am no longer able to take up the position of trainee Librarian…
Yes
No but if the Tories won I would seriously consider doing so .They are a self seeking bunch of lilly livered toffs.Ugh!
yes many of us are planning on leaving if the gorgon is re-elected.the only question is where to go.
No, I won’t be leaving, but a generous donation of say five mil could certainly change my mind. Since I fell asleep and crashed my ship at Roswell things have been a bit tight.
I have heard it all now;
BBC Reporter near a bridge in Cumbria;
‘Let me tell you what the problem is – this bridge has a two inch crack….”
And so do you madam,but we don’t want to see it,least of all talk about it.
Bridge Too far
Good job it didn’t need a roof
You mean it doesn’t have a thatch ?
I thought it was racist to use inches? – millimetres please! 50.8 rolls of the tongue so much better than 2.
James Macintyre claims that his polling statistics came from a totally reliable source…..a member of Parliament called Mr James Gordon Brown. Anyone here here of him?
Mackintyre has been all over No10 and polled all his sources in the house, and guess what….Labour are ahead in the polls, surprise, surprise. More accurate would be Labour are “up the poles”.
LieBore have their heads so far up their own . . oh never mind!
The ‘private polling’ will be coming from the same numbers factory that told Brown it was okay to run 35bn quid deficits right through the peak of a housing and credit boom.
Ie the number factory in his own fucked-up head.
He obviously put the phone down before the Downing St. wonk could finish his sentence.
“James Macintyre says that his Downing Street sources say that their private polling shows Labour ahead in the polls……..in Kirkaldy.”
Do they only poll the postal voters?
Hmm, now let me see…
Brown does enormous favour for his favourite pollster’s wife by parachuting her into top Brussels position … couple of days later, ‘private’ polling finds surprise result favourable to Brown…
Coincidence??
complete coincidence, next thing you’ll be suggesting that deborah mathesons’ polls in favour of gordon are influenced by her public sector contracts.
They call it an election ‘Pledge’ because it disappears after use, leaving only a shine and a faint smell behind.
Something only Polish people understand
And Kiwi’s
You forgot the land of Ajax
is that your pledge?
I am unemployed,trying to get a job.
Company leader on the TV at the CBI conference;
“My business has hundreds of millions of pounds waiting to be allocated and used,but we are waiting for leadership”.
And that says it all.
Brown must be taken to a place and hung by the neck until dead.
Enough is enough – Cameron – stop fucking around,we cannot afford Brown any longer.
Great Britain cannot afford Gordon Brown any longer.
and we cannot afford a useless c’unt like cameron either.
so a hung parliament is in the national interest.
It’s not in the national interest if it’s a Lib-Lab pact dominated by the same Labour imbeciles of the past 12 years with Clegg and Cable bought off by having their wages doubled and made Ministers for Shagging and Old People respectively.
Which in any hung parliament situation is the most likely scenario.
you are a woman and so politics is beyond you.
leave it to the men, love.
we’ve got bigger brains.
I do f*cking hope not.
The truth is this.As we have more graduates in this country now you will have more Labour voters.If you are intelligent you cannot seriously consider voting Tory.The attitudes inherent in the Tory Party are based upon prejudice and a me first principle.If we had relied on the Tories we would not have had a health service or free universal education. They look after their own. I am really pleased that the tide has turned for Labour.God Bless you Gordon.
Free Compulsory education was established in England and Wales in 1870. Over 30 years before the establishment of the abomination that is todays Labour Party.
Yes but not many of the Tory bunch in parliament have ever been to a state school or send their kids to one.What do they know about the rest of us?
S’cuse me. How many of the Labour front bench have been to state school for that matter?
Funny how where you went to school wasn’t an issue at all when Blair was PM. Now suddenly it’s a big deal again. One would almost think the new Labour ‘narrative’ was about preserving their core vote by re-igniting the politics of envy rather than fixing the monumental fuck-up tehy’d made of the UK economy.
Jgm2 you are a Tory troll sod off.
Hey Rev(yeah right!)
Satans going to toast your bollocks and thats before he hands you over to a party of daytrippers from Heaven. They will be just a few of the millions of butchered victims of socialism and after they have torn you to shreds then there will be millions more buses full of the victims of socialism all wanting a piece of you–but don’t worry, it can’t last for more than a few million years before they have all had their revenge.
Maybe they could send all the unsold copies up to Cumbria for a spot of mopping up
Dont know if any of you have have been to Cumbria
It fucking pisses down every day, the locals are even bigger thieves than the twat Paki who charges me 65 p for a can of coke (the french are worse)
The only reason I would go to cum bria is to throw a hercules full of wogs down and let the RAF use them for target practise rather than sheep.
Sheep taste better
fuck off twat
Why no one reads the New Statesmen any more, discuss!, Answer… nobody knows and nobody cares.
Well – that’s Margaret Thatcher dead then – Brown has just shaken her hand as she enters Downing St to unveil a portrait of her.
Will the funeral be at Westminster Abbey – will give Brown another photo opportunity…..
Told you we would start the week with a “Brown Down” moment. Brown is about to greet Baroness Thatcher, her portrait is about to hang in the hall at No10, then she can watch Brown everyday…ha,ha. Just getting things organised for the Tories taking over next year, called forward planning.
said the crackhead whore.
Sticks and Stones….Ha,ha
well done lizzie. you are learning.
I wish Gordon Brown was found hanging inside Downing Street
you sir are a patriot.
No, I don’t want Gordon Brown to die. I’d like him to win the next election so that he can devote himself to the sisyphean task of rebuilding the economy whilst choking on IMF imposed budget cuts.
Once the ex client voters riot it really will be hell on earth for him…
The NuLiebore blog trolls are out in force today
Trying to make up for Clegg and Dave showing Gordon as the shifty, lying wanker that he is at the CBI.
I have to laugh when Gordo says “I will halve the budget deficit in four years” ….. does he think he lives on planet free money???? Errrr….. yes he does…. you only have to turn the printer out and WHAM, more money…….simples
He will later claim he meant “double” “not halve” and the media misrepresented him.
We have to retake the asylum
‘Halve the budget deficit’? In the same way that he abolished boom and bust no doubt. And held a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. And held a referendum on PR. And abolished house price crashes.
It is just cruel to have to listen to the nutcase spouting such utter bollocks while the TV commentators and news readers just sit there as if this was all a rock-solid, coherent and consistent message.
We need more BBC journalists giving ‘asides’ along the lines of ‘and if you believe that I’ve got a bridge I want to sell you’
shut up you boring fuck.
get a fucking job bitch.
Stalking isn’t normally your style tat. Therefore I suspect a spoof tat.
no, ’tis me.
I am in no mood for bullshit today thankyou very much.
No. ‘Tis not you. ‘Tis MB sowing dissent and FUD. Comme d’habitude.
do not backchat top boy jgm2.
I am carrying out an experiment.
I will post my conclusions in due course.
I think I know what you’re up to tat.
Gordoom is obviously relying on printing enough money to pay off the budget defecit before the IMF come knocking.
200bn printed, 200bn overspent this year – coincidence?
oh fuck steve expat the tramp has turned up.
soup kitchen closed today is it steve?
Afternoon tat, I see the kind nurse let you use her computer again..?
Oh Steve, don’t be like that.
We love him here, he makes us laugh.
He can get excitable but that’s when we lock him away again, for his own safety you realise. He’s going to have fish fingers and chips for tea tonight. And if he’s really good, he can have a pudding too, maybe jelly and ice cream or something
Where is George Osborne and why is he?
Probably matching his ‘exposure’ time to Alistair ‘The Invisible Man’ Darling.
look out, BITCH FIGHT BETWEEN MISS BAITER AND JGM2.
scratch her fucking eyes out!
Hurray. Some capitals.
I will explain why I am being so horrible to you later.
That’s what you said last time and then you hit me in the face with a chair.
Spoofa, don’t forget the loofa, isn’t it?
I like it when tat uses all CAPS.
It gives the blog a bit of edge.
Probably being painted out of the picture, no patron no power, corr phew!
Probably – but surely Darling will react against being scape-goated and marginalised sooner or later.
Its spelt Corfu, dolt!
Dimwit, the island may be but the exclamation is definitely corr phew!
As in ‘Phew what a scorcher – Labour annihilated in election meltdown – It was the Sun Wot Won it’
No as in George Osborne is a despearate oik with no patron and no power. Corr phew!
Hahahaha
Tremble Conservitudes our scrounging dole hordes who suck at the withered teat of Labour will help crush you. Especially in our client states like Glasgow!
Hahahaha
It’s clearly a typo. It is supposed to say “Labour’s a head on the pole”, presumably a simile for the likely outcome at the next election.
I can think of several Labour heads I would like to see on poles.
Today this site is very edgy as in nervous, jumpy, agitated, isn’t it?
No.
And Labour are shit.
Today this Master Baiter is very edgy as in nervous, jumpy, agitated, isn’t it?
Random
Random like Brown’s budget projections?
Reproduced here for general entertainment and for guidance as to how likely the Maximum Imbecile is to being able to halve the deficit in four years.
2002 projected to be 11 billions this financial year and in future years 13, 13, 17 and 18 billions
2003 this year.. …. £27 billion, £24 billion, £23 billion, £22 billion and £22 billion.
2004 £37.5 billions, £33 billions, and then £31, £27, £27 and £23 billions.
2005 £34bn this year falling to £32bn £29bn, falling to £27bn, then to £24bn and then £22bn.
2006 will be £37bn this year, £36bn next year, then £30bn, falling to £25bn, £24bn and £23bn
2007 will be £35 billion then 34, 30, 28, 26 and 24 billion
2008 next year will rise to £43 billion… £38 billion and then £32 billion, £27 billion and £23 billion
2009 Public borrowing to increase to £175bn this year, £173bn, £140bn, £118bn and £97bn
And here’s where the additional debt of +800bn came from. The difference between his predicted expenditure and his actual expenditure…
2002 11, 13, 13, 17, 18
2003 27, 24, 23, 22, 22
2004 37.5, 33,31,27,27, 23
2005 34, 32, 29, 27, 24, 22
2006 37, 36, 30, 25, 24, 22
2007 35, 34, 30, 28, 26, 24
2008 43, 38, 32, 27, 23
2009 175, 173, 140, 118, 97
11+27+37.5+34+37+35+43+175+173+140+118+97
= 890.5bn quid.
But note too that in no year did he actually predict he’d balance the budget. His entire ‘economic’ strategy, such as it is, since 2001 has been to borrow enough to avoid the fact that his numbers don’t add up spilling through into reduced GDP. Hence 2 -3% of GDP projected borrowing every year.
And now, because his numbers really, really, really don’t add up it’s 13% of GDP, 12% of GDP, 10% GDP, 7% GDP.
He’s simply printing money to try and buy a single quarter of GDP ‘growth’ so he can declare ‘victory’. But it is not a victory over economics. It is a victory of insanity over reality.
I beat my wife when taking a break from the rather pitiful job I have of posting rubbish propaganda on here.
Corr phew!
I thought you were a practitioner of beating yourself. An Onanist.
Oooo… a Buy The SUN ad. Must get one tomorrow. (Wot no tits?)
Why doesn’t Brown state to UK Business “you have got to halve the deficit in 4 years” because that is the only way it can be done.
Can someone with a big forehead work out the approximate turnover / profits that will be required to generate the TAX to acheive this.
Someone please explainm the difference to this dimwit between the deficit and the national debt, pretty please!
It’s easy to see where confusion could arise.
The national debt is at an all-time high.
The national deficit is at an all time high.
Having so completely fucked the economy that halving the deficit to a ‘mere’ 7% of GDP in four years is not the kind of target any prudent PM would be bragging about.
Although when your PM is insane it’s probably the best you can hope for.
Plus, like his pledge to end ‘boom and bust’ it’s not worth the paper it’s written on.
Why Mr Baiter, don’t you know?
I think he understands it well enough, but for any out there who don’t:
A. The deficit is an astronomically large figure that has grown enormously under Labour and is now completely out of control.
B. The National Debt is an astronomically large figure that has grown enormously under labour and is now completely out of control.
B increases every year by A.
Surely B increases by A plus (A+B)*Interest rate.
It’s going exponential.
We’re going to need bigger banknotes just to fit all the zeroes on.
Plus the interest on B
Beat me to it, I was doing some work in the interviening period.
So it’s then – how much do we owe?
PRINT IT & GO
Broon was going on about halving the annual deficit (currently 200bn ish) in 4 years’ time. That means that in 2014 the national debt will still be going UP by 100bn a year, by which time it will be about 1200bn or 80% of GDP!!
To raise 100bn, the standard rate of income tax would have to go up to about 45% or VAT to about the same level – or he could just cut spending instead…
Income tax at 45%? Surely we could just print 200bn quid a year instead and keep income tax where it is.
Oh.
And then when that all goes to shit we can just seize everybodies pension assets.
Because it’s the right thing to do. Because we’ve totally fucked the economy.
He’s done that already.
True. He did that up-front in 1997. Thus encouraging a generation of Baby-Boomers to invest in the only tax-free store of mass wealth left. Property ownership. And as flipping MP’s prove – multiple home ownership is no bar to avoiding CGT on the sale of multiple properties.
So Brown, with his typically short-sighted, imbecile-driven grab of ‘easy money’ set in chain the whole BTL shit-pot that drove house prices stratospheric and underpinned his borrow and squander economy.
He really is the jackass de tutti jackasses.
That’s the free market for you.
Hahahaha
Conservitudes are stalled in the polls and sliding.
Hahahaha
Good. It’ll keep the voters on their toes. The biggest potential enemy to getting rid of the current crop of imbeciles is complacency. And postal voting.
Complacency and Post voting.
And the BBC.
Complacency, postal voting and the BBC.
And rigged figures.
The biggest potential enemies to getting rid of this crop of incompetent Labour Jackasses are compacency, postal voting, the BBC and rigged figures.
The biggest asset to Labour is the narrow minded bigots that tend to support the Conservitudes, which phenomenon repulses the normal voter.
Hahahaha
Naaaaah. Postal voting. And the BBC. And complacency. And rigged figures.
I don’t like the Tories but I fucking hate you ZaNu shite.
I will be voting for Cameron just to smash you you labour turd.
It’s the
Sunpostal votes wot won it!I am no friend of Labour, but your witty and incisive comments have made me start to love Labour!
No doubt.
Labour are stools in the pond and stinking.
I’m with Mike Naylor. 80% of the posting on here is crap. 10% funny 5% very funny. 10% quite informed.
are your figures the result of a postal vote?
Are you a Labour vote counter, Anon ??
80% plus 10% plus 5% plus 10% equals a narrowing in the Conservative poll lead.
or a Labour 105% lead according to these figures.
Can I add that I picked up a copy of the ‘Statesman’ the other day and I have to say that it has certainly moved with the times.
They have started a new Fox-Hunting column written by that filly Stella McCartney and I got the distinct impression from the editorial that they now believe that the death penalty should be brought back for bicycle theft.
Obviously the retarded cocksuckers are allowed out of their cells after 2pm and get straight on to this site.
MB
TAT
Remind me of the angry man in the bar – never done a thing in their life.
Lifeless.
And at 14:30 comes a dimwit called And now it’s their turn
said the fuckwit
Gordon and Sarah, separate beds y’know.
Turkey Baster
Master Baiter
Isn’t it?
“James Macintyre says that his Downing Street sources say that their private polling shows Labour ahead in the polls”
To parody a very famous line from Air Marshal Dowding during the Battle of Britain when the counting of British losses in the air was given by the German news as three times what was actually being experienced …..
“If we are right they will give up! but if they are are right they will call and immeadiate General election and be marching victorious down Whitehall in three weeks time”
Thats all that can be said and the only answer to such a statement coming out from the bunker.
I was thinking more of the Iraqi Information Minister saying that there were no Allied troops anywhere near Bagdhad, as the US tanks came literally rolling over the hill behind him…
As long as Gordo believes it, he’ll stay put, which is great, as he’s electoral poison.
” LOOTERS REMOVING WHEELS FROM ABANDONED BMWs IN COCKERMOUTH….ARMY TOLD TO SHOOT ON SIGHT”
Army Spokesperson ” Give us the guns and ammo and we’ll do the job”
He added “We would have installed Bailey Bridges but thet’ve been melted down to make railings”
hopefully there are no more than 5 looters or they will run out of bullets
A couple of years ago, I bought a copy of the “New Statesman” just to see what all the fuss was about.
It was drivel. Just a lot of wordy, boring articles by self-satisfied and rather deluded C-listers and semi-politicos who didn’t really seem to have much real idea about what they were writing about, and rather gave the impression that they couldn’t be bothered to do any research. Actually, it wasn’t all drivel – there were some adverts, as well. Mind you, most of those were boring.
I bought a copy of the “Spectator” at the same time. That was marginally better, but not much. Some of the adverts were mildly interesting.
I’ve never bothered since.
Do not worry, it will be a majority of 40 seats for the Conservatives. Labour have lost their core voters, and do you really think middle England wants Brown as PM?
hung parliament.
you can bet on it.
I have.
Loser.
I always win lizzie.
I am top boy.
thick as thieves = top girl
naughty naughty!
don’t do it again.
thankyou.
OT but the email/uea story spreads
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125883405294859215.html
Just seen Gordo and Sarah welcome Maggie to No. 10
I would love to know what she said after the door shut
She probably need a stiffner, I wonder if he had the good stuff to hand.
Maggie never needed a stiffener its all the others that need a good dose of viagra.
Wouldn’t particularly surprise me, when you consider the number of parasites that live off government handouts (ie our money) these days.
Of course this would inlude people on welfare, most government workers of one kind or another and those whose jobs depend on government activities. eg workers for synthetic charities, most university staff etc.
I’ve never ruled out a Nulabor victory.
Want to see just what a twat Toilets Maguire is?
http://dizzythinks.net/2009/03/keviun-macguire-short-memory-on-union.html
I have heard that Macguire hits his wife.
I’ve heard that he’s stopped that now. Although I’m not sure when. Perhaps somebody could ask him and clear that up.
Master Baiter – I understand it completely, the deficit is far more worrying that the national debt.
Having a big mortgage is one thing, but spending more cash than you are earning is a different matter
I think Brown needs to be sat down and given a lesson in COMPOUND INTEREST, that is all you need to know
100 billions @3% interest
1
1.03 + 1 = 2.03
2.09 + 1 = 3.09
3.15 + 1 = 4.15
Even “halving” the defecit means it is increasing in real terms – if you add 1/2 of the compound deficit, it really is bananas
Can’t some Tory get his calculator out and work of the figures?
I am not a Tory but…
Total debt = (National Debt So Far [ND] + This years deficit [TYD]) * (1+interest rate/100 [IR])
If TYD is a constant then after n years
Total debt = (ND)* (IR)^n + TYD*IR + TYD*IR^2 + TYD*IR^3+ ….+ TYD*IR^N
Or, in language the BBC and Labour voters should be able to understand – We’re fucked. Mathematically speaking.
We’re fucked.
To make life even more interesting, the UK currently pays about 3.5% interest on it’s Gilts – on the National Debt, in effect. Current ND is about £830 billion, so we pay out £29.05 billion a year. (That’s more than the defence budget.) We only pay 3.5% because the international money markets think there is a very small risk of the UK government defaulting on any of it’s debts, so awards us an AAA rating – the best there is.
If the money markets get a bit jittery about our ability to pay up, they might downrate the UK. The lenders would then compensate by demanding higher interest rates – so our annual interest bill will rise significantly even without us adding to the debt pile.
Apologies to those who already know this (most people), but Master Baiter might like to consider the implications of wild, uncontrolled borrowing “to stimulate the economy”. In the end, you lose out more by borrowing than by saving.
Engineer. The problem is that most voters do not realise this simple fact. Just as most voters were happily voting Labour (or at least not voting for prudent economics) this past 12 years.
Just as Brown has successfully scape-goated the yanks and the banks for the failure of his reckless, imbecile economic policy then you can be sure, in the event of a down-grading and the international money markets demanding higher interest rates it will be the fault of the wicked ratings agencies and not his own imbecile policies.
There are parallels to be drawn from history here. The scape-goating of foreign banking interests for home-grown economic fuckwittery but oddly nobody seems to be making them in the media.
This will not end well. And anybody who thinks we just have to borrow 200bn quid this year, 200bn next and ‘halve the deficit’ inside four years and this will all be sorted is an utter fucking lunatic who believes in fairies at the bottom of the garden.
I cannot stress how fucked this is and how much more fucked it gets with every passing day of this government of imbeciles.
But Gordon told us all he’s the Master of All Things Financial ??
Remember ‘Fiscal Prudence and Stability’ ? Remember ‘No Booms, No Busts’ ?
Are you inferring that he LIED to us all to keep his job ??
Mr Darling’s own figures say that the interest paid on debt is 31.1bn this fiscal year, rising to 43bn in 2010-11 – that’s about 7% of all public spending, just on interest.
Add to that nearly 10bn of repayments for PFI schemes (which is surely just borrowing by another name).
Gross debt will rise from 793bn to 1198bn in the next two years, as GDP rises from 1413bn to 1535bn – therefore the national debt will be 85% of GDP by April 2011
Source: 2009 budget report, not known for its optimism in recent months…
Au contraire UK budget reports under Brown have been characterised by their reckless optimism. Which shows how politicised the Treasury number-wallahs have become. If they’re predicting 85% then 100% of GDP is more likely than a single percentage suprise on the low side.
I could have said that better, having spent ages looking up the figures!
I meant of course, that Darling’s figures are known for generally being optimistic compared to the actual outcomes, in other words we are undoubtedly far deeper in the shit than he will admit to us!!
Yep. We’re fucked. By economic imbeciles. From Labour.
Guido, hope your blackbird is fixed soon we need some comments on this totalitarian turd Jones from the University of East Anglia and his attempts to hide the facts and remove all opposition to his theories from ACADEMIC (sic) journal boards.
Perhaps you could add some quotes from Sarah Palin, that will really wind up the totalitarian “trolley dollies” stealing your reader’s monikers on this site!
UK debt to GDP ratio is lower than any other G7 nation except Canada, isn’t it?
Hahahaha
UK debt is increasing at a higher rate than any other G7 nation. Bar none. With no credible signs of stopping its exponential growth.
Nor indeed any other Developed nation. Including Iceland. Which everybody knows is completely fucked.
Isn’t it though?
UK GDP debt ratio is 44.32%
GErman GDP debt ratio is 76.99%
Hahahaha
UK GDP debt ratio forecast for 2010-11 year is for GDP dept ratio to be 85% and still climbing.
Source: Budget report 2009
It will undoubtedly go over 100%, unless all the printed money lowers the debt by inflation
Yep. That’s right Steve. And already Public sector debt is well over 50% and will be of the order of 65% of GDP by March 2010. Meanwhile the German economy is growing and their deficit is reducing whereas our economy is still shrinking and our deficit is still accelerating into the stratosphere.
We’re fucked by this bunch of Labour economic imbeciles.
That figure of 44% is pure bullshit – show us the Treasury link (for 2009 not 1996) for that figure.
The 44% is 2007-08’s figure
2008-9 is around 57% (round figures borrowing 800bn, GDP 1400bn)
2009-10 is around 71% (1000bn, 1400bn)
2010-11 85%
Source: Budget 09
Tut-tut. Nu Lab troll using dodgy, out-of-date figures? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell ya.
And let us recall that budget ‘09 figure was calling for debt of a deficit of a mere 175bn quid whereas educated economists have it closer to 225bn. I think we’re looking at 62% – 65% by March 2010.
Certainly not 44%.
we are talking about deficit you bell end
Alot of the dimwits commenting on this site are unaware of the difference between national debt and the deficit.
The UK national debt is lower than most other leading economies.
Isn’t it?
The UK’s deficit (out of control) is higher than every other leading and non-leading economy.
And with no credible means of reducing it apart from massive tax rises and/or massive public spending paycuts/jobcuts.
Isn’t it though?
The UK deficit is out of control.
The UK national debt is out of control.
This is complicated but simple Brown has “done us in”.
If in doubt, resort to Crib Sheet of bullshit pseudo-factoids issued by Bunker Control.
Master Baiter – if you are up to your eyeballs in debt, you have far less financial freedom because you have to pay for those debts.
If you’re in a hole, stop digging.
Master Baiter appears to be Welsh – isn’t it
How’s the household debt standing?
Better than corporate debt, isn’t it?
thanks to ‘private equity’ financial spivs vast numbers of corporations have been bought on borrowed moeny, stuffed with that borrowed money as corporate debt and milked of any spare by thieving financiers via fees and bonuses, isn’t it?
That’s the free market for you.
Try: total Uk debt £400bn
Try total UK debt = 280bn quid. The level it was in 1997.
Try total UK debt = nil billion. The level it should be at now after 12 years of ‘growth’ and ‘prudent’ economics as opposed to the 900bn we will have by March 2010. Ie in four months time.
Better than government debt. Individuals have realised the insanity of borrowing more than they earn every year and are paying off their debts. The imbeciles in government though are stuck in their one-trick pony mode and borrowing ‘whatever it takes’ to try and rig a single quarter of ‘growth’.
After all it ‘worked’ from 2002 to 2007.
Spot on as usual!
Newlabour used the economics of those spiv remortgage firms that encouraged people to ‘release extra funds’ in their houses to roll up all their debts into one gigantic loan and still have some left over to pay for new plasma screens/holidays etc and when the extra money ran out another spiv remortgage form would write to you for yet another special offer to release yet more funds from the value of your house.
Never never economics brought to by the funders of the newlabour party, spend now and pay later Brownian economics set up to fake growth, no wonder the UK is up shit street.
Tut tut, Cassandra. You should know by now that the ‘problem’ according to Brown is not too much borrowing but the fact that the yanks and the banks have turned off the borrowing. According to Labour the ‘cure’ is to get borrowing and house prices back at the same insane levels as 2007.
And because we’re all at heart prudent, recalcitrant savers, it falls to the Maximum Imbecile to take up the borrowing on our behalf and piss 200bn quid we don’t have into the economy this year in an effort to reinflate the borrowing binge. Or, failing that, simply inflate away all the debt with printed cash.
Try this.
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/crisis-explained-one-chart-debt-gdp/11570
Ha ha ha ha……not.
As a youngster I used to hide my credit card bills under the sofa using the logic that if I couldnt see the bill it wouldnt exist. Unfortunately it never worked out, the bill was replaced by another and another untill one day I had to pay.
The moral of story is that Brown is a lying blind hoon!
Brown is still in the ‘hiding bills under the pillow’ stage. Only the grown-ups in the electorate or the IMF will bring him to his rational senses. Or at least cut up his credit card.
On climate change again check out Brillo’s politics program today at,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p6sdy/The_Daily_Politics_23_11_2009/
At least through Brillo’s good offices aljahbeeba are letting some MMCC sceptic academics have a say in public.
Instead of talking about deficit, can’t we talk about VIZA bill
Is Brown talking about halving 200 Billion in 4 year time or
200 year 1
200 year 2
200 year 3
200 year 4
—–
800 / 2 = £400 Billion
Or is he talking about doubling the deficit to £ 400.00, increasing at £100.00 per year?
he’s saying that instead of being 180bn a year down, he’ll only be 90bn a year down.
Still down, still down by a total of 1535bn by April 2011 and going up until 2018..
Oh my God! so many billions to worry about! How does Brown sleep at night, is he on the red pills or the blue pills.
Both. And the green ones. And the black ones. And anything Ali Campbell leaves lying about the place.
Odd how Alistair Campbell and lying just come naturally to mind.
They could not lie straight in bed…………….. odious excrement !!
The left are now reduced to talking to themselves and/or this was the final part of the media offensive that began with the planned ‘return to growth’.
The last major political offensive directed from the desperate bunker, all their lickspittle media running dogs were on board, the hundreds of billions in forged and borrowed ’stimulus money’ was supposed to inflate the economy temporarily just enough to show enough growth to crow that Brownian economics was a stunning success and culminating in a rigged poll showing a phoenix like rise in newlabours poll fortunes, ta daaaa! what could possibly go wrang? A cunning plan set up to run like a Soviet Army assault, no deviations, no alterations, no modifications and it all went pear shaped from the get go, from the moment the GDP showed continued contraction the great Brown offensive called the battle of the bulge part two went wrong and now the last twitch is a rigged poll, when a corpse twitches it doesnt mean that the corpse is in fact ready for a night out on the town followed by a night of rumpy pumpy!
When you look at articles like this you are seeing the fag end of a desperate and dying regime whose time in the sun has come to an end, like the bloke at the party who never wants to leave, newlabour have become the party bore.
After reading all this, I think think I need a poo.
Oooh – that is music to my ears.
Just a week or so ago Labour sources were telling the Grauniad that private polling showed they faced being reduced to 120 seats at the next election. We all took that claim with a pinch of salt, and we’ll take this with one too.
It’s no wonder Brown is confused when Labour spin doctors such as his master Peter Mandelson have no idea whether they are coming or going, or what message they wish to send out.
I think they’re going!
Mandlebum only knows when he is coming or going when is arsefucking a bumboy.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.”
Mr. Micawber (Who should have been running the economy)
This morning I stumbled into a Grauniad blog by mistake.
I couldn’t believe what I was reading, but there in print it said ‘I would rather saw my arm off than vote Tory’ ‘I can’t stand the thought of the evil Tory cuts’ etc etc.
So we have to remember that there are at least 30% out there who are loonies and will vote Labour come what may, many of them dependant on Brown’s largesse with our money to dish out their benefits and to fund the whole Public Waste Machine including the NHS.
Why Dave, the Chocolate Teapot, can’t explain some of these basics about the Deficit and the Debt, and the virtue of living within one’s means defeats me.
So I’m resigned to seeing an almighty Fuck Up at the next election and if Brown gets in again it will be fun watching them shovel their own shit. The problem over the past 60 years has been that every time Labour fucked the economy, the Tories had to sort it out and get the blame.
Now it’s time for the Labour morons to see what really happens when the wheels come off under Labour control, and of course the morons are the ones who will suffer most, since taxing the rich might sound good but yields almost nothing, so it’s the majority that will get hit to get to stave off penury.
Then he’ll have to turn the pages of his Grauniad one handed then won’t he….
A reason to be cheerful !
I can only assume that statisticians from Hadley CRU are responsible for Labours private polling.
They have manufactured a hockey stick graph to put in front of Brown to compliment the Vallium.
Posted elsewhere but more OT here. Private polling predictions fall apart a few hours later; they tell each other lies, it helps the pain. Here’s UK Polling’s take:
Ha! Ha! Ha! You’re Having A Larf!
And what happened next:
Oooops!
It’s a rollercoaster out there!
Gordon’s been getting his private poling from me for years.
I haven’t laughed so much since aunt mable caught her left tit in the mangle !!!
I presume the poll was done in Liverpool or some similar socialist cesspit !!
Latest poll: Angus Reid. CON 39%(+1), LAB 22%(-2), LDEM 21%(+1). That’s a 17 point lead.
Who’s up for a porn film?