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	<title>Comments on: Yes Ms Palin, Britain Does Have NHS Death Panels</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/20/yes-ms-palin-britain-does-have-nhs-death-panels/#comment-362989</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[all alone at home with Kilroy, Kleenex and more than time on your hands again, you tragic onanistic whinging Huhne.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all alone at home with Kilroy, Kleenex and more than time on your hands again, you tragic onanistic whinging Huhne.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you really are a fucking idiot, aren&#039;t you?  &quot;they tested my father at public expense but there wasn&#039;t anything wrong with him&quot; is a pathetic &quot;look at me whining on the internet&quot; complaint.  Presumably you feel it would be better for noone to be tested, then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really are a fucking idiot, aren&#8217;t you?  &#8220;they tested my father at public expense but there wasn&#8217;t anything wrong with him&#8221; is a pathetic &#8220;look at me whining on the internet&#8221; complaint.  Presumably you feel it would be better for noone to be tested, then?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So gypsies should be denied hospital care? This sort of thing was tried 70 years ago in another large European country, and we all know what a delightful society that was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So gypsies should be denied hospital care? This sort of thing was tried 70 years ago in another large European country, and we all know what a delightful society that was.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty naive to think that cutting out the trust managers would free up enough funding to &#039;fix&#039; all of these issues that you people seem to think the NHS has caused.

Assuming every trust sacked their managers at this apparently-standard £300k that everyone keeps spouting. There was 147 PCTs in the country, this would save a total of 44million, give or take. If you had any idea what a drop in the ocean for NHS funding that was, you would realise that the problem you all have with the &#039;parasites&#039; isn&#039;t the problem.

The problem is a country full of fat, drinking smokers who don&#039;t take enough care of themselves. But no, we&#039;re not allowed to say it out loud.

The media can&#039;t be seen to upset Joe Public. THEY MIGHT STOP PAYING THEM! Better just keep crying a feckin&#039; river over managers being paid too much. That&#039;ll fi it right up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty naive to think that cutting out the trust managers would free up enough funding to &#8216;fix&#8217;all of these issues that you people seem to think the NHS has caused.</p>
<p>Assuming every trust sacked their managers at this apparently-standard £300k that everyone keeps spouting. There was 147 PCTs in the country, this would save a total of 44million, give or take. If you had any idea what a drop in the ocean for NHS funding that was, you would realise that the problem you all have with the &#8216;parasites&#8217;isn&#8217;t the problem.</p>
<p>The problem is a country full of fat, drinking smokers who don&#8217;t take enough care of themselves. But no, we&#8217;re not allowed to say it out loud.</p>
<p>The media can&#8217;t be seen to upset Joe Public. THEY MIGHT STOP PAYING THEM! Better just keep crying a feckin&#8217;river over managers being paid too much. That&#8217;ll fi it right up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The amount of value you add to the debate is less than fucking zero.&quot;

Oh, the bitter, means-tested irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The amount of value you add to the debate is less than fucking zero.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, the bitter, means-tested irony.</p>
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		<title>By: zionista</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zionista]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wat]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wat</p>
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		<title>By: spEak You&#39;re bRanes &#187; Undeniable Correlation</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/20/yes-ms-palin-britain-does-have-nhs-death-panels/#comment-358333</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spEak You&#39;re bRanes &#187; Undeniable Correlation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] or punch ourselves in the face until our fists bleed, but Alan has found us a gem of a comment from Guido Fawkes (Honestly, don&#8217;t even read the article itself, or if you do, don&#8217;t discuss it here). It [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or punch ourselves in the face until our fists bleed, but Alan has found us a gem of a comment from Guido Fawkes (Honestly, don&#8217;t even read the article itself, or if you do, don&#8217;t discuss it here). It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Edwards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup the NHS stinks, I would guess if you took the real cost and divided that between the people who should be entitled to use it (no illegal immigrants, gypsies etc) then you could get private cover and change. It does not work, the cleaners are overpaid and often careless, the admin is out of control, it is dangerous. In Truro the NHS hospital is next to a private one, one has had no MSRA infection, the other has killed several patients. I moved to Canada, their health service is provincial not national, it is not perfect but heaps better than UK, but those with the money, for now, go to the USA because it is better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup the NHS stinks, I would guess if you took the real cost and divided that between the people who should be entitled to use it (no illegal immigrants, gypsies etc) then you could get private cover and change. It does not work, the cleaners are overpaid and often careless, the admin is out of control, it is dangerous. In Truro the NHS hospital is next to a private one, one has had no MSRA infection, the other has killed several patients. I moved to Canada, their health service is provincial not national, it is not perfect but heaps better than UK, but those with the money, for now, go to the USA because it is better.</p>
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		<title>By: politicoassassin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[politicoassassin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ho ho, this is an entertaining place. Has anyone mentioned yet that we need to get over the delusion that we can or should keep people alive forever with medical science? Any society that decided it would spend the majority of its resources (because that&#039;s how it would end up if the drugs companies got their way) keeping people alive for a few years longer would soon collapse on itself. 

If your relative lived till 90 instead of 92 because of an NHS decision I can understand why you&#039;d feel upset. But death is part of life, and it has to be faced sometime, and perhaps you should focus on the fact that they lived to 90 instead of 70 with the help of lifelong free medicine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho ho, this is an entertaining place. Has anyone mentioned yet that we need to get over the delusion that we can or should keep people alive forever with medical science? Any society that decided it would spend the majority of its resources (because that&#8217;s how it would end up if the drugs companies got their way) keeping people alive for a few years longer would soon collapse on itself. </p>
<p>If your relative lived till 90 instead of 92 because of an NHS decision I can understand why you&#8217;d feel upset. But death is part of life, and it has to be faced sometime, and perhaps you should focus on the fact that they lived to 90 instead of 70 with the help of lifelong free medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree. This is the stupidist entry I have read on this blog for a long while. 

Would have expected Guido to be at the forefront of efforts to publicly expose the opportunity costs and trade-offs involved in determining where best to invest the public&#039;s money. The criteria NICE uses to make these decisions is published on their website - enabling a more informed debate about health and drugs spending than in the past, where often, the NHS was regarded as a bottomless pit. 

What a load of b****ks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree. This is the stupidist entry I have read on this blog for a long while. </p>
<p>Would have expected Guido to be at the forefront of efforts to publicly expose the opportunity costs and trade-offs involved in determining where best to invest the public&#8217;s money. The criteria NICE uses to make these decisions is published on their website &#8211; enabling a more informed debate about health and drugs spending than in the past, where often, the NHS was regarded as a bottomless pit. </p>
<p>What a load of b****ks</p>
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