Why Did Labour Want to Avoid Expenses Issue?
The total absence of anything in the Queen’s Speech on the expenses issue is glaring, could the above be why? The Telegraph reports that Keir Starmer, the Director of Public Prosecutions, will shortly receive a police file on half-a-dozen suspected political financial fraudsters. A source told The Times: “The investigation is progressing and a file will be ready to go to the CPS by Christmas.”
In the dock we are likely to see three Labour MPs Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine, as well as two Labour peers Baroness Uddin and Lord Clarke of Hampstead joined by one Tory peer Lord Hanningfield. Tony McNulty, Jacqui Smith and Geoff Hoon have not had police investigations produce a file of evidence for the CPS. Though they still face the possibility of private prosecutions being brought by the Sunlight Centre and/or the Taxpayers’ Alliance (supported by the Daily Mail).
You can see why Gordon might not be too keen on bringing the expenses issue front and centre…
Christ – Morley’s head looks like its going to explode – all that £400 per month of food!
The charges If the CPS finally has the guts will be around January
Brown not having legislation for exepenses doesn’t tie in with that date
What legislation and new laws are needed to implement Kelly BTW?
why can’t these pigs just do the right thing for a change
“It is disappointing that today’s Queen’s Speech did not contain measures to address the changes we believe to be necessary affecting the remit, powers and independence of the new body being established to regulate expenses.
“There is no reason why the relatively straightforward legislation needed in this area should prevent the new regulatory body from getting other important changes underway.”
To implement Kelly, the Tory leader claimed, 11 separate measures still need to be passed into law.
A Downing Street source told Sky News: “We will implement Kelly’s recommendations in full and will take all the necessary steps.
“If legislation is needed, I’m sure we will see it through.”
But speaking on Channel 4 News, Schools Secretary Ed Balls said new laws were not necessary to reform expenses.
“The idea that we need to have new legislation (is) to play politics about this, when what we actually need to do all together is to get consensus on the way forward for expenses.”
Why do we need specific legislation for a few hundred people? There are perfectly adequate laws governing theft and fraud!!
Shariah Justice is the answer for this lot
love the hot Arab babes on your blog although the Azerbaijani one wow
Why don’t HMRC actually apply tax law relating to reimbursed expenses and benefits in kind? If, as the Telegraph article states that they’re ready to charge (only?) 27 MPs with fraud then full speed ahead on that. But there’s absolutely nothing to stop them from approaching every MP with details of their expenses and issuing a tax investigation.
I know that HMRC have for a long time been under pressure to ramp up the investigation settlement income, and that when little people come under the spotlight then they are pressurised (by a Tax Inspector or Revenue Executive) to declare their sins and offer a settlement to the Crown. Some of the transgressions that give rise to investigations are comparatively small (certainly by the standards of the MPs’ expenses) & HMRC have the manpower nationally to carry out such an exercise. When will they?
Lucky Bastard
Lets hear it for the lawyers.
Need something done, invent new laws.
Am I missing something, do we not have 6 in the firing line?
What are they going to be charged with if we need new laws?
I fear Semen has been tipped the wink by his friend Scratchy.
Say anything to get the rabib right wing mentalists / loons / GIBy’s on “Spunky Spunky” howling at the moon.
Bag of shite the lot of it.
Shame on the numpties who fall for the Pavlov’s dog trick all the time.
Away and think for yourselves ya bunch of sheep.
I’m sure there was logic in there some where but remain baffled as to where.
said the spinning poodle of the warmongering banker bailerout and cocksucker
over 100 MPs are quitting already over expenses
“Bag of shite the lot of it”
and you’re full of it
PORK FOR CHRISTMAS !
lovely jubbly !
Still Wrong
I have finally made it, I now have a stalker on “Spunky Spunky”.
Mark up another victory for progressive politics over the rabid right wing loons of GIBy Land.
If they are worrying about me they are not spouting pish about GB.
Your attempts at working out what “NLJD” stands for says more about you than it does about me.
Away and throw shite at yersel ya Daily Express reading muppet.
You still haven’t got over universal suffrage so the past 12 years must have shaken you to the core.
One down, 27 to go.
And yet Gordy managed to pronounce on such issues as ‘real peace for Northern Ireland’ and ‘ an education for every child.’
Just a statement of intent would have done.
But he fluffed it again. And of all the people to ask for advice when put under the spot by Cameron, and under pressure, he asks Harman.
He asks his rival for the job what does she think he should do. See how she barely contains a chortle as bungler Brown picks the wrong option yet again.
Again Gordon’s long prepared, into the night evil machinations don’t survive contact with the enemy.
If only he was half as clever as he thinks he is.
An education for every child is a total waste of taxpayers’ money. How much education does it take to wear a hoody, watch TV, smoke crack, twoc motors and die young? If we’ve got to have public spending cuts, universal ‘education’ is a good place to start.
Gordon is Mandelsons “Fluffer” (google fluffer)
On Labournight last night I got the impression that if not introduced now then the changes would be introduced until after the next election- ie 5 years away.
In other words all the troughers that are booted after the forthcoming election out can still get their hands on the very generous pay off rather than the realistic 3 months severance recommended by Kelly
Cynical.
Yet the facts don’t bear this out. Miss Truss, who has fought and lost several other seats, was picked by a six-strong local selection panel from 151 names which had been sorted by central office
151 candidates after the expenses scandal and measures had been announced.doesn’t sound like a shortage does it ?
Yeah, the troughers have been given at LEAST the length of the next parliamentary term (5 years) to make personal adjustments before their troughing ends, but IF these recommendations are put on hold for a few months and they are then introduced just after the next election, then that gives the greedy thieving bastards a total of 10 years at the trough!
My guess is that the DPS will say there is insufficent evidence on which to proceed
Just you watch.
None of them will be jailed they will get away with a bolloking at best and perhaps a small fine which we will have to pay.
Nobody charged the Atorney general for being in breach of employment laws i.e. no pay slips or tax deducted for the cleaner
They do what the fuck they like !!
With Queer Stammer in charge we can all be truly thankful that not one member of the Labour Party will face any charges. Obviously it is all a Great Tory Plot to discredit the noble efforts of years of the like of Ramsay MacDonald, Clement Atlee and, dare I say, Kier Hardie’s own efforts to bring down the establishment and lead us to true socialism in our own lifetime.
PS Neither Jack Jones (or Lord Jones, that famous communist) or Michael Foot were abject traitors to their country, their party or all that they believed in. Whoever says that is either a Tory Party Poof or another Comunist Lickspittle of te discredited Soviet Union’s former KGB.
Looking at that rogues’ gallery I suspect someone got carried away with the ugly stick.
Hopefully the unlovely Udders is about to get her pre-Eid due , knacker better detain her though in case she hops off to that marble palace in Bangla and finds it may not suit her to return.
A FULL investigation into Uddin’s finances needs to be conducted. HMRC can go back up to 20 years – this seems a suitable time for her since it would cover pretty much all her time working in local government, councils, etc and her time since joining the Lords.
Of particular interest is how did she manage to fund that foreign palace?
I suggest the police also check the gas, electricity etc usage for the Kent flat at the time she claims to have been spending several nights a week there. Wouldn’t it be odd if they showed nil usage? Seems like an open and shut case to me.
Only 6?
This is a joke, surely?
Police have decided not to investigate “flipping” although according to The Telegraph report HMRC are to investigate 27 “others” for tax irregularities and possible non-payment of capital gains tax but don’t hold your breath on that one !!
I take it we will never know then as this will take place in confidence.
What happened to Harman’s Fail to Stop and Fail to Report. Thats gone all quiet. Most people would have been told within a few days if they were gointg to be summonsed. Waiting for the 6 month prosecution limit to expire???
HM Revenue and Customs have launched inquiries into 27 MPs – GCT on flipping
hopefully.
Also those found to have claimed for non-essential items could now face a tax bill of up to 40 per cent on their value, plus interest and fines.
If it happens then it is some redress but not enough
yeah – I though there was something dodgy meant to be going on with the round named one and his wife but it was being kept a bit quiet.. what happened to that?
But yes, it will be because of the payoff that they are putting this off till next election and it’ll probably be forgotten and brushed under the carpet (into the EU) by then.
Whadda you mean ‘only 6′? Have you any idea how much it costs to bring legal cases. An asbo costs about 15k and that’s why you can never get one on the local village yobbo
There’s a fair bit of weight carried by five of them!
Which one doesn’t have the double chin?
It’s nice to see those in public life transcending the barriers of class, race, religion, gender and politics and pulling together to achieve something they passionately believe in.
Good point, though Baroness Uddin doesn’t seem to practice Sharia banking .
Semen
How is your homework getting on?
Hypocrisy and the Murdocks.
NI’s corporation tax payments to the UK?
The price of body armour for our boys.
then get your hero Broon to actually do something about it instead of whining like a little pussy
New Labour tosser.
Get your head out of the bunker.
Is NLJD actually NuLabour. Even compared to that shower of shite his drivel is incomprehensible bollox.
Do your own homework you idle little shit!
Start doing some proper work instead of bleating and whining on the internet!
I didn’t see you raise Murdoch’s tax issues when the Sun was ‘on message’ Who let them get away with it for the last 12 years?
quite right – political accomodations paid for in blood -so why are you apologising for the government which allowed it happen?
In house spastic’s footwear
Answer the question or shut the fuck up.
Hypocrisy in the press — Scum / NI edition.
Start thinking and stop howling at the moon.
The Scum to support Scratchy and Sniffy?
Excellent news, progressive politics never needed them.
Unhappy that TB and GB humoured them for so long.
Consequently now a free fire zone on that shower of shite.
The phone tapping issue is bubbling away nicely.
More to come on that front.
Expenses is a second rate scandal in that company.
NLJD: you are such a gobby c’unt but when I last asked you a question you ran away like a yellow bellied coward.
as you are here gobbing off again you loud mouthed c’unt I will take this opportunity to ask the question a second time, so let’s see if you are brave enough to answer or will you run away for a second time?
tell us, what party do you support?
You really do think everybody on here is a rabid right wing loon, don’t you? It shows how far life in the bunker is from reality.
Humour Murdoch (not Murdock) = lick his arse.
£400 a month for food? Let me see …. just got a letter from DWP telling me that the Pension Service has given me £250 to help meet the costs of winter heating bills. Oh Sir, thank you sir, Prime Minister sir, thank you, Mr. Pension, for giving me some of your hard-earned money in these difficult times, is there anything I can do sir, lick your boots? vote UKIP? oops, sorrry sir, no offence meant, what do you mean ‘domestic offender’?
Someone called me from a mobile phone and said If I keep my head down for a bit longer everyone should have forgotten about me. The person got cut off quite quickly though but I heard some words like ‘you know where you can fi…. “and then the connection was lost. Could have at least said bye!
Don’t worry love, there is a possibility of me having 2 troughs.Dave hasn’t noticed yet.
Quote from the Labour peer on Brown’s cynical old people’s care “trick”;
“I’m not looking forward to the night of the next general election but, if the result goes as I expect, one of the consolations will be that one of the most irresponsible acts to be put forward by a prime minister in the recent history of this country will be swept away with his government,”
Government borrowing for October worst since records began in 1946.
OECD tells government to come up with a both a credible plan to reduce debt and also to cut the growth forecast
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article6922794.ece
This is blatantly unfair and I demand to know why no Conservative M.P.’s or Peers are mentioned.
Yet again this is keeping Labour in the media and the public’s eye.
We in the Conservative Party need to get the real issues over to the electorate…….
KEEP TROUGHING CONSERVATIVE
Eye-ron cast, uh, cast ey-ron, er, oh fuck I’m an incoherent rambling joke. Mandy – time to try the pity card again.
Yeah – lets go and abuse another bereaved mother and give her shit on the phone.
How do you spell her name again ?
S Y M P A T H Y V O T E S .
I thought you NuLab trolls didn’t get into the office until 10am. I hope Mandy’s giving you time off in lieu for coming in early.
I thought you Tory trolls didn’t get into the office until 10am. I hope Coulson’s giving you time off in lieu for coming in early
Because whilst claims by some Tory MPs may be viewed as dubious they haven’t actually broken the law ? Although there may well still be investigations pending so let’s wait and see
Dave “Cast Iron Guarantee” Cameron should have a look at how many front bench Labour MP’s are now millionaires when they were poor as church mice when they were elected.
The expenses system was brought in by Labour as they were intensely relaxed about becoming filty rich at the taxpayers expense. Labour troughers are the worst, because they have betrayed the very people they claim to represent.
In the chamber yesterday, Brown mocked Cameron for doing a U turn on the Lisbon Treaty.
That was just about the most traitorous, seditious act I have seen given that Brown was the b4stard that didn’t give us a choice in the first place.
As we know, Brown has no shame, dignity, conscience or idea.
The problem with Lab/Con/Lib Dem troughers is that unlike in the past they have decided on politics as a career, rather than as a public duty _after_ a career. Both Tory & Labour benches are replete with people who started their political careers in uni, were appointed as special advisers, got non jobs in the public sector/unions/media, then finally achieved their ambition of being elected. In other words they have set out to enrich themselves from the public purse rather than making their money in the real world.
The main difference as I see it is that more Tory MPs have had a previous career (or still operate a second one), and may have more experience of civic conduct in the real world. Naturally New Labour sought to outlaw second careers and to smear Tory MPs who had them…
On a related note, MPs have traditionally sought to justify their generous salaries (and fantastically generous expenses) on the alternative bases that “they’re worth it”, ie they could earn far more in the real world, and that it’s prudent to pay them well to avoid bribery & corruption. Most MPs have no relevant, applicable or recent experience of the real world and would struggle to justify their salaries alone. And paying Lords generous expenses didn’t stop four Labour peers from _offering_ (not agreeing) to influence legislation for cash, did it? (Naturally they haven’t been charged either.)
He did give us a referendum. He promised. You must have missed it.
We all voted for the EU, increased NI payments, More Terror Laws, Extra Congestion charges, and more BIN laws.
He is a lovely fellow that Mr Brown. I was nearly sick when he attacked Cameron on the Referendum issue. Just shows how warped his mind really is.
Did you not read the blog, are there too many long words for you to understand or were you just having an “Against All Odds” moment?
Quote: “joined by one Tory peer Lord Hanningfield.”
Perhaps you should go back to your more usual duties – or does the copier still have paper in it?
Being a Labour troll is obviously too demanding for you.
Actually I think you’ll find that I didn’t bring it up because that is the right thing to do. Just like selling the gold was – because I bought Euros, so only racists oppose me.
It started in America
You sorted for Es ‘n Whizz?
I’m getting on with the job and taking the hard decisions. Minister for Truth Mandelson informs me that my popularity is now at a record high.
This sort of gutter politics has no place in british politics, except when people like mcbride do it, or when the sun are supporting labour – then it’s fine.
I take no pills. I’m totally sane. Barack Omaha says so. Did I mention that he’s a close friend and ally?
I’ve told you – stop calling. I’m not coming over and I don’t want to speak to you. Go away.
What I do?
Hold him down.
Only 17 days 23 hours 54 mins 48 seconds to go to “Save the World” – Gordon. Now “Get to it !” after all “It is THE right thing to do !”
I think you’ll find Gordon’s more a roofies & mogadon man…
I think you’ll find Dave’s more a skunk and columbian-sherbert man…
Perfectly normal, then…
I see that the NuLabour blog troll Master Baiter/The Inquisition has developed delusions of Squander and is now posting as G. Brown.
“It started in America” my arse
We have been through this before and still (like the Nu Labour blog troll you are) you continue to peddle your lies.
It started in 2002 in Curzon Street Mayfair where AIG London sold credit insurance to lenders so they didn’t care if the borrower defaulted.
Keep spreading the filth while you look for another job after 7th May 2010
McGroom
AIG = American International Group
AIG now under US Federal government control following a US Federal government bailout.
Hahahaha
The crisis started in America, it’s a global crisis.
No it didn’t and no it isn’t, you imbecile MB. You have been told this many times before with facts to show how wrong you are.
Why don’t you stop showing off to the world how truly idiotic you are?
Here’s a letter from the BBC’s ‘Have Your Say’ about what you think about the Queen’s speech.
“I did like the spectacle of the State Opening of Parliament and I was amazed at this 83 year old Lady reading as she did. Never mind the contents of the speech, which were expectedly without surprise.
I wonder, if at 83, I could sit there with the weight of a very heavy “hat” (I do not own any crowns) and read out loud for those 6 1/2 minutes without trying to have a drink or taking my cough mixture etc.”
[alexandrelegrand], London, United Kingdom
What can you say?
Be fair – Elizabeth has had a bit of practice… although IMO she did appear to be scowling when she read through the speech handed to her!
Liz was probably thinking that the royal family have had its fair share of inbred mongs, but that one eyed jock one really is the biggest wanker of the lot.
What about Vaz? And Darling?
Can you imagine how much noise the bbc would be making if it was 5 tory and 1 labour instead?
It would depend on which side was expected to be drawing up the Prime Minister’s resignation list.
Listening to that ill educated, ill mannered BBC clot (Mr Humphreys) interview Dave – on the Toady programme this morning – simply reinforces my view that a full scale review of the BBCs editiorial direction is needed as soon as we regain power in May.
That nice Lord Tebbit is the ideal man to chair such review.
I completely agree.
The problem is not John Humphreys,who does his job,but the way Labour counterparts are kept away from him.Instead we have Jim(“when we’ve won the election”)Naughtie and others feeding them lines.There will need to be a thorough sort-out at the BBC.
yeah but no but yeah but norman tebbit called for poor people to be made to ride their bicyles to the workhouses and for foreigners who can’t play cricket to international standard to be called foreigners.
you tories are so ignorant. next you’ll tell me that the unemployment of the early 80s wasn’t maggie thatcher’s fault but because of mistakes made by the previous governments, in fact the economy of the 70s was a keynesian paradise with near full employment.
go fourth for 2010, not flash just gordon
“you tories are so ignorant. next you’ll tell me that the unemployment of the early 80s wasn’t maggie thatcher’s fault but because of mistakes made by the previous governments, in fact the economy of the 70s was a keynesian paradise with near full employment”
You have never heard the term ‘The sick man of Europe’ then I presume.
Thought not.
“Go fourth in 2010″
Labour finish fourth in 2010?
Hopefully.
“in fact the economy of the 70s was a keynesian paradise with near full employment.”
Were you born in the 70’s you complete fuckwit?
You remember the three day week, unemployment heading for a million and Labour Isnt Working?
Fucking knob.
I think you guys have missed the (not so) subtle irony in “guardian reader’s” post!
I disagree – Humphrys was perfectly entitled to ask difficult questions. It’s a pity he’s not allowed to interview other big beast politicians that often, as I think that they generally get far too easy a ride on the BBC. That may be because (in the case of Labour in the recent past) access to ministers was a privilege to be granted to friendly journos, and if one of them rocked the boat they’d be denied future access to interviews, lobby briefings etc.
It’d also be nice to hear Humphrys interview Nick Griffin – at the risk of giving the B*N*P the oxygen of publicity actually exploring their policies (rather than Griffin’s unpleasant past) would be a good way to debate the issues. I don’t expect that many potential B*N*P voters listen to Radio 4, but I live in the hope that the issues raised would make it into the red-top press.
Besides which… since hunting was banned, a Humphrys political interview is the only socially acceptable bloodsport!
Is this a ‘why did the chicken cross the road’- type question?
Because the ‘fees office’ was on the other side?
Insufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction…not in the public interest…etc etc
The usual story.
Difficult to believe in five bellies case ! I thought plods’ duty logs would have constituted fairly conclusive evidence.
Perhaps it should go to the ‘court of public opinion’ then?
….in other words there is insufficient chance of a successful acquittal….if any these bastards get before a jury they’re going down
And the good news is that the offences mentioned (fraud and false accounting) are serious enough to go to the Crown Court – in front of a jury of twelve.
Who’s going to find them not guilty, two of them managed to forget they’d paid off their fucking mortgages, FFS!. Everyone I have ever known pay off their mortgage might as well have shares in Moet & Chandon, they drank so much of the stuff!
Guido points to the divisive nature of Plod’s investigations – it looks deliciously like one law for the members and a different law for the hoonorable members. That should make for an interesting unanimity in Parliament.
But there is a different way of looking at this – why would Plod be backing off investigating Privy Councillors? They’re not special in any way are they?
Dirty thieving little shits with a bullying, hate filled, spendaholic, maladroit, Scotch retard as their leader, its no wonder they are so close to the Tories in the polls.
True, true. Dave’s wisteria chimmney is the clincher for me. I respect a bit of sainsbury’s front. But not in a politician. Sorry Dave I’m voting for the party of independence from you lot
Good choice!
I don’t agree.
Whilst 29% of the population who are eligible to vote are stupid enough to vote Labour we can’t take any chances.
Vote Conservative. Destroying the Labour Partyand Socialism is priority number 1. Independence from Europe number 2.
Great! Vote UKIP and get the Unintended Konsequences Idiots Produce
Very smart of you I’m sure.
They all seem to have excellent double-chins in their mug shots. A result of rich living?
Theft mainly.
Hamster mush stuffing syndrome probably.
The expenses are a side show.
Cameron has to raise his game at PMQ’s if he is to convince us he will make a good PM.
Without getting personal he needs to highlight how Gordon Brown is so compromised he will leave calling a General Election until the last moment because he is going to lose.
He has to highlight that unemployment has risen under every Labour Government and this one is among the worst.
He has to highlight that public debt has risen under every Labour Government and this one is the worst.
He has to highlight that this government takes more of workers earnings than any other government in history and has still racked up unprecedented public debt.
He has to highlight that under Labour, poor people have actually got poorer.
Economic recovery will not be sustainable until consumers and small businesses have confidence to spend and invest. Throwing money at banks and big buisnesses just transfers corporate debt to public debt and thet take their best opportunities by investing abroad. Just look at the roaring stock market which gets most of it’s earnings from overseas and is not (as Brown claims) an indicator of UK economic strength.
Cameron has to highlight that 4.6 million (or 99.3% of the total) of UK companies are Small or Medium Size Enterprise. Brown claiming to have helped just 200,000 small businesses is a drop in the ocean and at least 10 times that figure needs to be done.
The “Fiscal Responsibility Bill” is actually the reverse as it rescues big businesses and banks who invest government money overseas while the struggling smaller companies in the financial industry are over regulated and going to the wall.
Above all, Cameron has to highlight that Gordon Brown has wrecked this country with his failed polices, so how can any one in their right mind think that he is the right person to fix it?
Get those points across and I might vote Tory.
But the Conservative Party IS the only party of high unemployment and high taxation.
Recite our mantra
CUT,CUT,CUT,CUT
WE are the Party of high ( yoof ) unemployment and more and more Stealth Taxes.
I would give you my Solid Gold Guarantee but unfortunately I sold all our gold reserves at the bottom of the market.
You forget to add that you sold the gold at the bottom of the market precisely because you told everyone six months ahead of the time that you were going to dump several tons of gold into the market.
It wasn’t simply a poor investment decision, it was a peice of (deliberate?) sabotage.
Agreed
Out of all of that shambles the one thing I could never really understand is that he announced it worldwide way before he did it instead of releasing bits at a time at a far better price. More to the point why sell it at all!!!!!! The Euro was certainly involved here. Was it done for political purposes?
I just feel when this stone is turned over there will be many little cockroaches scurrying around.
The sale of gold was only $12 billion – it is a tiny amount and doesn’t deserve all the hoopla.
What it does deserve is noting that Brown told the market what he was doing before he did it and collapsed the market.
He really hasn’t got a clue
Yes. Cut!Cut! Cut! And then cut some more. If you had any real experience in dealing with government bodies you should know that unchecked, profligate spending is the norm. There are armies of useless NuLab supporting strategic paper-shufflers to be culled, without having any real impact at all on ‘real’ front line services.
Consider: 10% Tory cuts= slaughter of the innocents, yet 9.3% Labour cuts = investing in public services.
These Labour tossers are both liars and financial incompetent. A heady mix.
the 9.3% cut is actually a 0% rise in public spending though.
With maths like that, it is no wonder that Brown slaughtered the healthiest economy any incoming labour government had ever inherited.
LOSE LOSE LOSE
Yes Cameron needs to raise his game but Brown’s going down. It’s obvious to most people in the country that he (Brown) is a surly, incompetent nutter.
Top top post.
I almost think there is a case for Cameron to refuse to take part in PMQs until Brown actually answers questions. All the fucking Mctwat does is rant lunatic shite and then ask Harbitch what to say next
Agree – he can simply sit there and not ask anything – now that would be interesting.
I reckon wait a month or so until it is too late for Labore to have a new leader, then get stuck in. There is potentially 6 more months of all this so just let Brown create more rope
Why wait? Gordon himself reckons that none of his colleagues are as good as he is – attack him ruthlessly, and let the other rats decapitate him then fight each other like ferrets in a sack for the leadership.
They’re all so thoroughly compromised that Labour is still likely to sink without trace.
That’s it ,I’ve had enough and feel a John Major moment coming on.
I off home to watch a recording of our Party Conference and play “I’m a believer” by The Monkees over and over again.
Gordon was right ,politics is no place for a novice
Good Morning
John Major won an general election he seem destined to lose. Remember the soapbox.
Also, Major’s government left the country’s finances in good order. Major’s biggest mistake was shagging Edwina Currie.
These are two achievements Gordon McShite is not going match. The incompetent Brown has ruined the country’s finances and avoids elections at all costs.
Clarification: Shagging Edwina Currie does not rank among Major’s achievements.
Too right – he’s not shagging me.
Clarification: Shagging Edwina Currie does not rank among Major’s achievements.
More of a duty.
more of a vice
More of an act of extreme generosity and selflessness
…or a kink!
Jon Major was a brilliant Prime Minister, but an appalling leader. His biggest mistake was not holding a referendum on the Maastricht treaty.
His opt-out from joining the Euro was excellent, but he should have gone further and he was in charge of the most sleaze ridden Government on record up to that point.
However, Blair and Brown made Major look like a rank amateur on the sleaze scale.
I mean, compare 2k in a brown envelope to a very very junior minister, just to ask a question (and to this day we have no clue as to the impact on anyone’s life of that question), to 1.5 million quid to the party’s leadership to buy a massive U-turn in that partiy’s flagship health policy with regards to cigarette company sponsorship.
Labour were selling policy to the highest bidder in BLATANT contravention of their “whiter than white” declaration.
Where the fuck was the media on that one? Too busy sucking Blair’s arse as Blair was more committed to getting the agenda implemented. what agenda? The one that the OWNERS of the media and Government decree is going to happen. The new world order. YES, the SAME new world order that Gordon Brown keeps banging on about!
Now that the public have (finally) seen through the new labour charade and have understandably decided to hate Brown for it, the Owners are ready to swap puppets and have Cameron implement more of their agenda.
What he meant to say was “politics is no place for no vice”
John Major was not a great leader but he was a beacon of honour and decency compared to Brown and he got to shag Edwina.
Brown will go down in history as the worst PM of all time unfit to lace Major’s boots and Brown never got to shag Edwina.
Many books will be written analysing just how awful Brown was. His incompetence and dishonesty will be recalled for decades to come. This man has plumbed depths undreamed of and the Labour Party put him where he is. He is an English hating cu#t and we will never forget!
Seeing as you’re quoting Popbitch, also from their messageboard…
“Spent a couple of hours with a senior ‘protection officer’ last night and he’s just come off Gordon Brown watch. Apparently our man ‘never speaks to staff, so he isn’t rude so much as entirely non-communicative’ and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…”
A good comment about HMG in the Times today – “the head is off but the legs are still running round the farmyard”.
Yep. Its about time the monocled, white pussy stroking Lord Mandelson said
‘We don’t tolerate failure number 2′ and shoves him into the piranha tank.
Aw, why a piranha tank? Piranhas are timid and skittish fish. You really have to wind them up to get them to bite.
I have a Serrasalmus Rhombeus. (black diamond piranha) Meant to be the meanest of the mean of the Piranha world. What a fucking wuss it is!
I used to keep red-belly piranhas too. They were quite fierce. I found that Oscars and Jack Dempseys were much more brutal though.
heheh now this is a good post ! :}
‘Yep. Its about time the monocled, white pussy stroking Lord Mandelson said…’
I don’t think you’ll find Mandelson stroking any kind of pussy, white or otherwise.
He’s not that kind of boy.
It’s a start.
But where is Baroness Scotland’s CPS file?
I think we should be told.
Where has that story gone?
SHHHHHHHHH !!! Buried under lots of Labour bad news.
Every day’s a good day to bury bad news under worse news in Labourland
In my intray
Seems to be a huge row back occurring now
No10 seems to have realised that the comments made yesterday have resonated outside parliament and now Hattie is saying it will be implemented in full, and where things already in the bill will be dropped if they don’t agree with the independent committee
So looks more likely that the long grass may disguise what they leave out
Ms Campbell PPC Gets the Vote Out…
Bea Campbell has opened her campaign as Green Party PPC for Hampstead and Kilburn on the Guardian’s CIF: here.
The commenters btl have been less than enthusiastic, and the PPC has been prevailed upon by an adoring Matt Seaton (I confess I’m a Bea Campbell fan ? partly because she’s undaunted by this sort of drubbing: she believes in what she believes in, and she just keep chugging along. And whatever you think of the ideological journey she’s been on, I believe the ‘mission to make a difference’ bit is the common thread, totally sincere and deserving of some respect. Beats easy cynicism in my book, any day.) to respond to her critics.
Way to get the vote out:
Sorry dear readers, it has taken me until mid evening to reply. Got home after work and child care, made something to eat for my partner and myself, logged on to CiF and – forgive me for being candid – read a litany of responses that I could have scripted. So predictable. So furious. So ignorant. Does anything make any difference to you? I ask because it is hard to respond to all this because it is virtually impossible to discern an argument in the bilious abuse.
Does it make any difference to insist that I wasn’t a stalinist, supported the opposition to the invasion of Czechoslovakia; like many on the left I felt attracted to the communist party precisely because of its working class base; like – no doubt – a few – I felt there was a chance it could be redeemed.
Does it make any difference to you lot to say I was opposed to the Leninist notion of democratic centralism – indeed in the early 1970s happily joined tendencies, factions, streams, whatever, because I believed anyone should have the right to talk to and organise with anyone they wanted;
Does it make any difference to say that I was one of the founders of Red Rag, a marxist and feminist magazine – we women were called in by the executive and told we must desist. We didn’t. Or that I was part of a group of journalists on the Morning Star who petitioned the editor – not allowed, but we did it anyway…..and I stayed in the Communist Party to support the relative autonomy of Marxism Today – an influential journal that resonated far beyond the CP and offered what became an authoritative theory of Thatcherism…and so on…
No I don’t suppose it makes any difference because the discernible politics that seem to animate most comments are either Trotskyist or Tory and view the communist party as stalinist, full stop, whatever the anti-stalinists within it thought they were; or furious about some children’s evidence of abuse by anybody whatever they believe or sexist – anything feminist seems to drive some of you crazy; or misanthropic – anybody is a target for anything;
Come on, you’re not talking about politics, you’re not even talking about me, you are parading your own enraged obsessions.
Beatrix Campbell
The milkman’s horse has a huge John Thomas
Known in certain circles as a ‘horses hand brake’…apparently.
Green is the new red.
The truly odius thing about the Green party (which I voted for once in local elections a long long time ago), is how they hate people more than the BNP.
The BNP hate certain groups of people based on ethnicity and religion which is odious.
On the other hand the Greens just hate people. Period. Take a close look at what Greens in the UK and in Europe propose in temrs of energy and development for Africa. Essentially they will comdemn millions to die, to die young er then need be or to live in poverty. Ask why thye want to impose som called ‘green’ energy on Africans, energy which costs seven times per unit, what energy costs us in the developed north, to be paid for by people of whom milliosn live on around 2 US Dollars per day.
A Green vote is a genocidal vote.
spot on !.
Edward Teller, the Hungarian born physicist said that in his life he had fought against three sets of fascists – the Browns, the Reds – and now the Greens.
The Portuguese call their Greens watermelons … for obvious reasons.
“A Green vote is a genocidal vote.”
The elitist cabal at the heart of the “green movement” are indeed some of the most awful people with the most outrageous hatred towards humankind, except themselves of course, on the planet.
Greens really are up there with socialists as totalitarian mass murdering fanatics of the very worst kind.
Google how many millions died directly as a result of the banning of DDT, by these Gaia cult extremist`s for just one of many examples.
Yes. And global warming is overplayed lefty bollocks too.
It suggest it makes about as much difference as knowing that Hitler was kind to animals.
Beatrix? At least you escaped being called “Nutkin”.
Have you ever heard of netiquette?
Thought not.
B Campbell? don’t you mean A Campbell?
Well, one of my misguided relatives is toying with voting Green in protest against the three main parties. Since they live in that constituency hopefully Campbell’s narcissistic rant will bring them to their senses.
The Greens are even more anti-British extremists than labour. If that is even possible. They are anti-Human.
If people really want to engage in the Green Agenda, then they should lead by example and kill themselves.
Otherwise they are fucking hypocrites.
Spot on Neddy.
Commie bitch.
Interesting to note that, like all “true” Commies of her ilk, she lives it up in leafy Hampstead, safely away from all those nasty, dirty proles. She’d soon change her tune if half the residents of Bermondsey decided to come and camp on her front lawn!
Bah !! You’re all racists !
Don’t worry my lady, we’ll make sure the plebs are told what disgusting reactionary conservatives they are.
They really are so appalling bad at everything they do – they make a 17 year old youth on his first day of work experience at a Job Centre Super Plus Plus look like a Harvard graduate.
You mean a Harvard Business School graduate. Please don’t insult those of us from the other fine Crimson schools.
Ga….Ga….slurp…..where’s my nokia…….what time is it?….what day is it? I won’t calm down, I won’t. I won’t. Don’t you know who I am? I made you who you are Peter….and you Silly Bland……you were all nobodies when you met me…..
And you will be nobodies in the future. But richer.
Cannot understand why Mackay and Kirkbride are not in this list. They clearly lied about having “first homes” in order to claim two lots of “second home” expenses.
Obtaining money by deception would appear to be the appropriate charge here.
Agreed
Because call me Dave and Broon ran a mile from having Kelly look into house flipping and mortgage fiddling.
For hilariously obvious reasons.
It’s me folks! Like my new names? I was getting humiliated as MB so changed tack.
Oh..you think I’m a poo eating Goebbels for Gordon do you? Oh.
Spoofa not humiliated at all.
In fact have seen off many a dimwit who no longer dares to use their previous ‘name’
Hahaha
We’ve not finished with him yet…
The poor sods, they are just copying the nice people that bought them.
American banks, the usual suspects, set aside 150 billion dollars for bonuses, CNN told me last night.
How many noughts is that.
France qualify for world cup with a blatant and blatantly ignored handball from froggy. Tough luck Guido! If only you had Chiracs money you could have bought the result à la France v Brasil for the last x years. Bit like the ref er end um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poofs game anyway, footy!
It all started in the brains of sick perverts; not footy, that was the Japs! Ok, even footy!
Personally, I blame it all on those f’in hippies.
Spend their lives ignoring authority, pay sod all income tax, lead a simple life based upon my old gran’s motto of ‘waste not want not.’
I have an Italian buddy in Luxembourg town, very good business man with 2 businesses.
We met when his son bought a bracelet from me. Whenever he passed through Place D’Armes he would stop and chat, often about our shared mistake of having married English bitches.
Then I did not see him for months until one evening when he came through the square with his new asiatic girlfriend. She came over and to look at my wares.
He stood behind her, saying nothing as we looked at each other, then he turned to my then 16 year old daughter and said:
I hate your father
Why, she laughed.
Because he only comes out to work when the sun is shining and I slave all day to pay taxes.
You should see the look on his face when he sees me with Mrs H nowadays!
Time to meditate, laters guys.
I give you my Cast-iron guarrantee that I shall bring every conservative trougher to justice.
He should concentate on bringing Blair and Brown to justice for sedition and treason……
….assuming we still have a country to govern by the time Brown is toppled
Does that incliude EVERY Labour one as well
HEEELLLLPPP !!!
I am a Harvard graduate
They need to keep asking themselves what if ordinary people were caught doing any of this.
that kind of legal interpretation was canceled in 1997, now we have two separate laws – get used to it.
We would already be inside!
Well THERE’S a difficult question!
And they are all bar one fat, troughing, piggy-looking kunts!
Pig-faced thieving Nazi bastards.
We need a ‘Baader Meinhof’ type group in Britain start burning these evil Nazi criminals. There is only one party in the sewer that is parliament. It is the Klepto party, and it includes every last dirty filthy pig in parliament.
Burn all the dirty evil corrupt war criminal filth.
It’s such a nice day, why don’t you go for a bike ride
He parked his front wheel in Elliot Morley’s bum-crack and now can’t get it out.
I get the sentiment, but perhaps a tad harsh?
Mmm no, I don’t think that’s too harsh.
History tells us corrupt rulers will exploit, oppress and sneer at their populations for years, decades, even centuries. But in the end, t’proles rise up and cut their heads off.
It’s the way it works. They knew the risks. Fuck ‘em.
Frank, on second thoughts you’re right. They should all be painfully killed and their children sterilsed to prevent further contamination of the national gene pool.
[...] are to have the files on the police investigation into their expense claims passed to the CPS and Guido indicates that others still face the possibility of private prosecutions being brought by the [...]
I’m enjoying this!
Where can one buy equity in this firm?
Starmer is a Labour stooge and no case will come to court before the election
another corrupt Labour cover up
That is a very apposite comment – I don’t expect any proceedings before the GE (if it is ever called).
O/T Interesting contrast between the Today interview with David Cameron (by John Humphreys) this morning and yesterday’s with Lord Mandelson (by Evan Davies). Cameron got a thorough interrogating by Humphreys and answered the questions despite many interruptions. Mandelson spouted the usual irrelevancies and was not really pushed on any subject.
Which made me wonder when the last time a senior government minister was interviewed by John Humphreys. I can’t recall it being in the past year. So, are they avoiding JH, does the BBC not put JH in to interview ministers or is it just coincidence?
“Scrumpy Jack” Mandelson used the phrase “with love and respect Evan” yesterday – meaning “shove a had raised pork pie up your arse”
Yes – Evan Davis started to ask rapidfire challenging questions and Mandleson had to call a timeout so he could get back on track with his meaningless platitudes, misrepresentations, smears and “narratives”.
I don’t know why many posters focus on Mandelson’s sexuality when choosing epithets for him. If anything, (to me) he’s more reminiscent of Snowball, the devious propagandist in Animal Farm. After all, wasn’t he a communist in the past?
Strange – Mandy alwys seems to like it when he’s given a hard time.
Yes I agree – do you recall when Harperson was absolutely slaughtered by JH?
Evan’s interview of Mandy made me feel that I was listening to a private intimate discussion between close friends sharing a common failing – naughty boys !!
Yes – I think the BBC could have sold tickets and got Graham Norton to host the show – along the lines of Round the Horne – ‘aaawwww he didn’t did he?
Thank Evan it’s Mandy
I thank you !!!
Thank Heaven it’s Friday – Thank Evan it’s Mandy – geddit?
Friday is Thankfuckits Day – every week
Evan Davies is useless as an combative interviewer. He’s a nice bloke but way out of his depth when interviewing slimeballs like Mandy. It seems all the NuLabs are frightened of JH that’s why they are happy to accept a second-rate, chummy talk with Evan.
“………….does the BBC not put JH in to interview ministers or is it just coincidence?”
The Corporation has now been put on election campaign status – so what do you think ?
No it hasn’t. Once the election has been officially launched by the Prime Minister then the legally binding equality kicks in. Equal time to each party, etc etc…
That has not happened. What has happened is the BBC has started electioneering for labour (while it still can) before the official election campaign kicks off.
A modern Cautionary Tale : Troughing makes you look like a pig
Alan Douglas
Oh its sooo boring at the moment!
Roll on March/April/May.
da de da de da de da…….did you watch telly last night?…..de da da da de de da
God its so boring.
It’s only five past ten.
It should be 60, but I have passed a bill that all bad numbers have to be reduced by 10 to make my CRAP government look good. Of course all tractor stats have already been inflated by 100. OK better get on with putting the NOKIA back together.
£175 per night,without receipts,for peers to attend HoL.
Advanced liver cancer patients denied life prolonging drugs because at £3000 per month,its considered too expensive.
How many sleepless nights would that be?
17.142857
Very quickly done, about to go and sign on (I get fuck all, I just my N.I. paid because my wife works full time and we have a mortgage – whilst the feral feckless get their rented homes, Stella, young brats and hoodies paid for) so forgive me if I’m wrong.
I think there’s about 670 allowed to sit in the HoL, with an average of 30.42 days per month, that’s 670 x 30.42 = 20,381 sleepless nights at £170 per night…
£3,464,770 P.A.
Which would help prolong 96 lives per year.
Whats more important? 96 lives or countless Lords a’troughing? Hmm…
Bollocks, £175 a night – thats 99 lives.
Bloody hell! The standard of maths education in Britain really has got worse.
There are 365 days in the year, but the Lords only work Monday to Friday so that’s 260 possible work days. But then we have to account for the fact that the b’stards get about four month’s of holiday each year. So now we’re actually talking about 174 days. (260 x 8/12)
The amount the taxpaying public shell out to keep their Lordship’s trough full is therefore given by the following expression:
670 x 175 x 174
which comes to 20.4 million per annum.
If the treatment costs 36,000 per annum and we assume a course lasts for a full year, that means abolishing the Lords’ trough for one year would allow the treatment of 566 people.
My rather embarrassing mistake whilst rushing out. Next time I’ll wait until I have time to do such a simple thing right rather than jumping in and trying to do it without thinking (that sounds very much like this Government). It’s a lot!
O/T Borrowing figures released, higher than expected, £11.4 Billion, this is economics of the mad house, these guys have not got a clue, conitinuing to spend, continuing to commit to more spending. Can some one not say enough is enough, your time is up, your experiment or the great NL project is dead, election before Christmas please?
Link?
Guido – can you stop these bloody adverts blowing up in my face!
Jesus! Fucking stuff flying everywhere!
I think you might need to issue a warning to Epileptics.
There’s adverts on here??
I haven’t seen any adverts.
And epileptics, apparantly.
Off Thread but of interest re: climate change. I refer you to the second sentence in particular.
“To be sure, the fond hope is that ‘green energy’, notably the non-hydro or ‘new’ renewables, and to some extent energy saving could quite quickly replace or economize oil in the economy.
Selling this to a recalcitrant mass consumer public totally hooked on oil-based consumer goods and services supposedly requires the big stick of Climate Apocalypse fantasy, rather than informing the same public of peak oil reality.
In turn, this makes the likely failure of the COP15 ‘climate summit’ problematic for the image management of OECD political leaderships, terrified of losing face”.
Ok where is the quote from? is there a link?
Yep well i’m sat here in wales looking at a wind farm and it’s blowing up to 30+mph winds and the whole lot are shut down producing nothing ! even when they are on 25% are shut down due to failures , but the nuclear power station up the road purring along 24/7 and the greenies here want that shut down now !
The correct ‘environmental friendly ‘ action would have been the delaying of wind farm construction until the technology of the turbine had advanced. Investment there, resulting in more efficient and durable turbines, would have been money better spent. That would of course have been the right long-term view, but politicians do not do the long-term view.
If the politicians really were convinced of all this GW crap they would be taking actions to promote genuine global improvements. First through advancing technology, and helping with the same the most polluting nations. Thus far it is just a tax vehicle.
You seem to be falling for “the end of the world as we know it” syndrome. How do you know that oil supplies have peaked? A figure of 40 years is often given as the length of time left before oil runs out. However, this figure is based on known reserves. People always forget about technological advances. Even the BBC acknowledge this. There are still vast areas of the world unexplored, including the deep seas. For example, there is thought to be more oil still left in Canada than was ever found in Saudia Arabian. You can bet methods to get that oil out will be developed. Have confidence in mankind! Greeenpeace et al will be proved wrong – they always have been and always will.
Don’t forget about Methane Hydrates – much of the sea bed covers thick layers of them. Not to mention natural gas – according to the Economist recently a US Gas Analyst said that owing to the improvement in extraction techniques over the past five years “America is drowning in natural gas”. (Five years ago he only said that America was “floating on natural gas”.)
chicken train
runnin’ all day
chicken train
runnin’ all day
chicken train
runnin’ all day
I can’t get on
I can’t get off
chicken train take your chickens away
braaa… braaaaaccck… braaaaaaaa….
(more chicken sounds…)
Seeing that Labour peers have already put the boot in to the Queen’s Speech (which Queen??) and Mandelson has been trying to pretend that if you are against increased tax, you must hate the elderly, then it is all starting to look a bit sad for Brown. Still, he’s able to keep on sending out our troops without the body armour they require, so no change there, then.
Mandelson conflates, Shameful Brown kills more of our troops, Sir Paul Stephenson, empire builder, Labour falling to bits as its own peers attack Queen’s speech
Pork is not stretching the guidelines on allowances.
Pork is buying military bang bang toys at the highest price possible.
Always has been always will be.
Isn’t it?
You silly sausage
I thought that was just incompetence, unless you are suggesting that folk in the Ministry of Defence take bribes.
No, but they are crap. And then people lower down the MOD food chain have to do their best to make certain the troops get what they need.
And Captain Auto-Erotic isn’t helping his cause, is he?
Bribes?
Hahahaha
’stretching the guidelines on allowances’ = ‘thought I would never be caught’ = no excuse.
‘buying military bang bang toys at the highest price possible’=incompetence/fraud
Not connected=what’s is your point
Labour incontinence=bedwetters
Pork barrel is a derogatory term referring to appropriation of government spending for localized projects secured solely or primarily to bring money to a representative’s district.
That’s pork, isn’t it?
If you read the Wikipedia entry further for ‘Pork Barrel’ you will also see;
‘The term is rarely used in British English, although similar terms exist: election sweetener, tax sweetener, or just sweetener’
So Pork Barrel=election sweetener=Labour’s Queen Speech
Pork is not stretching guidelines on allowances. Allowances are more like chicken feed, isn’t it?
Phillip Hammond Conservitude treasury spokesperson (since Osborne forced silence), failed to declare three million pounds income from dividends, isn’t it? Three million pounds income in dividends, impressed. That’s why many Conservitude MPs are against declaring other income, because of the embarrassment of people knowing how little they’re worth.
Hahahaha
Yet another whinge from the religion of piss is it mishandjob?
This could be my new job !! Replacing Bruce Forsyth ( is he a Scot as well – give him a Peerage )
If any of these people ever make it into a court of law, I’ll eat my hat.
CPS?? Forget it. To repeat George Carlin:
“it’s a big club – and YOU ain’t in it”.
I LOVE that Carlin vid.
“they don’t give a fuck about you, THEY DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU! they OWN you. They own every body!”
And if you understand enough about legalese then you would know that they are right. Every ‘person’ writing here is owned outright!
but I have asked for a day off to go to children in need
fuck a trail just hang the fuckers
Terry Pratchett actually had the right idea when describing politics on the Islad Continent of Fourecks. The day after an election the winners were immediately gaoled. The assumption being that they must have done something corrupt to win and would doubtless continue to engage in corrupt practices once in office so automatic imprisonment saved everyone a lot of time and money.
Peter Madelson like nothing more than a teaspoon of Cambell’s Soup
mmmmmmmmmm – sounds like gentlemens relish to me!
‘The UK’s public sector net borrowing reached £11.42bn last month, official figures have shown.
The figure was the highest for the month of October since records began in 1993 and was much higher than economists had expected.
The ONS said public sector net debt as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) totalled 59.2% in October, also the highest since records began.
The Treasury said it expected the figures to start improving soon – hopefully, with a bit luck, a following wind, downhill, all things being equal, at the end of the day, when it’s all said and done, low lying fruit, bluesky thinking.
In your dreams
I wonder how much corporation tax NI paid in October?
Big company, very profitable so the tax payment to the UK should be quite substantial. That money should help pay for the much needed new body armour and helicopters in A’stan!
Northern Ireland is a country not a big company.
He’s referring to Merde Dog’s Noose International, isn’t it?
Sun complex. SAD
Who was it that gave NI such a big tax break? Hmmmmmmmm?
I shall give you a clue. They have been in power for the last 12 and a half years.
I shall give you another clue. NEW LABOUR!
That was what Blair flew half way around the world to suck on Murdoch’s dick for wasn’t it? That and to get the Sun to back Blair, in spite of the fact that the sun disapproved of 80% of everything Blair stood for.
But those labour tax-breaks sure made Murdoch happy and the way Tony swapped Murdoch’s blackened cum with Mandleson and then swallowed his seed for Murdoch’s entertainment pleased him so much, Blair got the endorsement he craved. The cost? Sell out the working classes.
So you only NOW turn on the sun?
I have hated them for years, do catch up!
Gordon is praying that the economic figures for the 4th quarter of 2009 when published early January will show a small positive growth instead of yet another negative figure and is working “tirelessly” to ensure that they do “whatever it takes”!If it doesn’t or his gargantuan labours fail then he IS well and truly “fooked”
He is fooked anyway but there will be a small positive growth as there has to be. It will be fixed, spun or whatever to ensure there is then the line will be running up to the GE
Dont put the recovery at risk!!
So obvious but hopefully sheeple won’t fall for the bullshit again
When I say positive growth then a fall from -0.6 to -0.5 will be spun as a postive growth in McRuins eyes and the BBC no doubt will declare the recession over.
Where is Mr peston when you need him? Is he away writing a book?
Yes fat jock female beeboid on Radio 5 claimed that we need all this borrowing to pay for important things like “skoolz and ozpitals”.
So not to pay for millions of public sector scum who do nothing (except vote Liebour) and the millions on council estates that do fuck all except take Heroin, fuck 14 year old girls and smash car windows… oh and claim benefits.
Well if blatantly and openly printing hundreds of billions of extra pounds cannot get this country out of recession, even temporarily, it shows just how fucked labour has made this economy.
Any growth will not be the result of a normal, increase in economic activity, but purely down to even more excessive borrowing.
It would be like me claiming my income has gone up, because I used my credit card more.
Any growth in the economy will be a complete con. The BBC will fall for it though and try their damnedest to try to fool as many of us as possible too.
I’ve just sat down to watch phil n holly and the twat is now on itv – his head is enormous – he has put me off my hob nob.
Why can’t I find mention of this story on the BBC news website? I’m betting if it was mostly Tories we wouldn’t hear the end of it.
No doubt Labour shit stabber Toenails will spin this for Brown today
brown says he has persuaded banks to lend more to people.
50,000 families in this Country who cause problems
he says he’ll kick neighbours out if they cause a problem
we have a low debt! (lower than America etc)…
top rate of tax is going up, pension tax and NI going up – Chancellor to make up any more tax rises in pre budget report.
i think i must have put something in my tea.
The investigation files go to the CPS and that’s the last we will hear of it – like all the other New Labour CRIMES.
It will take a popular uprising to nail these fuckers. Only when the scum are dragged out like Cousesceau from the protection of their rigged parliament, suborned CPS and bought police and shot against a wall will true justice be done.
You forgot to say “after a fair trial”. So long as you say “after a fair trial”, it isn’t inciting terrorism. I am assured. And hell, we’re Englishmen, we’ll give them a fair trial. I don’t begrudge Gordon that. And the time spent on that will give just enough time for the bubbly to chill!
seriously guys, give me the authority of a court and half a dozen bullets and it’s job done. no fucking messing.
we have identified the guilty so all we need now is a court to rubber stamp it and then it’s up against the wall motherfuckers double tap end of story.
easy, so easy innit.
the politicians must learn to be afraid of us. at present they are not.
they must be taught fear.
we would only have to hang or shoot, with a court’s permission, a couple of them to make the others fear us.
Hey lightweight, give it up and shut up.
oh dear.
how’s business masterbaiter?
I hear you got sacked by the labour bunker for not posting enough comments here and towards the end even the ones you did post were cut and past jobs.
oh well.
but you have only yourself to blame masterbaiter. if you weren’t such a lazy fucking c’unt you would still be earning £5 per post from you labour masters.
you are simply surplus to anybodys requirements MB and now you have been wrenched away from sucking from the public’s tit you will have to enter the real world and go out and get a real job and pay your own way instead of living off the backs of others as you have been doing all your life so far.
top boy says: you won’t last five minutes you useless c’unt.
Why don’t you both just go outside on your fag break and handbag each other?
YOU DO NOT STEP IN WHEN TOP BOY IS GOING ABOUT HIS BUSINESS!
YOU NOSEY FUCKING SLAG GET BACK IN YOUR FUCKING BOX!
cheeky c’unt.
never step in when top boy is attending to his business, minekiller.
you are a dimwit but you will be taught some manners.
What’s this? Only six? Where’s William Cash, Wig head and Kirkbride, Duck Pond, Gideon Osborne, Hoon et al? Forget your petty party politcs: they’re all in it together.
Guido – am I right in thinking that the Lords have recently and retrospectively changed their rules to “bring on side” overnight expense allowances even if a Peer has a house in London. That is rather like rubbing the pubic’s nose in it.
Yes – seemingly to defend Baroness Uddin.
Ah…….the “Rogues Gallery” I believe. what a shower! Where would we be today without the insder “Mole” in the House of Very Common People.
sorry insider.
Why does the BBC when talking about MP expenses still use sill references to ‘moats’ and ‘duck houses’?
What about that jock wanker Tam the wankers 18 thousands for two fucking book cases?
What about all the dodgy mortgages from Liebour MPs?
and why is the BBC trying to make out that Kelly has done a deal with Cameron to embarrass the one eyed jock mong?
So Harriet Hymen is being brought to book at last! Driving without care, Using a mobile phone whilst driving, Leaving the scene of an accident.
Took plod a long time to sort that out, let’s hope she has some expenses money removed from her and a few brownie points.
The big parties are all disgraced. Hasn’t the time come for all the smaller parties who work on the basis of policies to join together in a single message: Tory, Labour and Lib Dem, I will not vote for them again!