November 19th, 2009

Loser Labour Candidates Want Electoral Reform Shocker!

Thirty-four Labour PPCs  have written to Gordon begging him for a referendum on reforming the electoral system to be the final installment of his outgoing scorched earth policy.  The letter that has the backing of the left-wing front-group “Vote for Change” reads “we do not believe that Labour will benefit at the next general election unless voters see that we are prepared to actually deliver a chance of real change.” All very nice, but it doesn’t take long before you see their true reasons for wanting the vote:

“A referendum on polling day on a system that delivers real voter choice would see hundreds of Liberal Democrats switching to Labour, hundreds more stay-at-home Labour supporters coming out to vote for the government and every Tory opponent on the back foot trying to explain why the failed old system is worth keeping and why Cameron wouldn’t give the people a say.”

A quick look through these thirty-four wannabes shows that just one of them – former Portillo slayer and 2005 Enfield loser Stephen Twigg  - has any chance of winning their seat. With the average losing majority (at the prevailing polls levels) expected to be 28% no wonder they are so keen on widening the goalposts, just look at the predicted* majorities they are up against:

Would they be backing the vote if the odds were not overwhelming stacked against them?


190 Comments

  1. 1
    NLJD says:

    Guido

    Where’s your homework?
    You know how much corporation tax News International pays in the UK?
    How much profit does KY TV / the Scum make from our boys?
    The cost of top quality body armour?

    • 3
      The Queen says:

      You are such a numpty young LayBore boy.

      • 13
        Shotgun Election says:

        It looks like Labour will do anything to stop the people having their say.

        Labour does not believe in democracy.

        • 22
          • Hang The Bastards says:

            These fkin Labour scum are foing to get all they deserve !

          • Guido, you nicked them from Labourlist comments, tsk.

            Alex Hilton Chelsea and Fulham Predicted Tory majority 45.61%
            Andrew Pakes Milton Keynes North Predicted Tory majority 15.24%
            Andrew Skudder Horsham Predicted Tory majority 34.68%
            Cath Arakelian Chingford and Woodford Green Predicted Tory majority 45.37%
            Colin Swindell Derbyshire Dales Predicted Tory majority 44.04%
            Damien Welfare Chipping Barnet Predicted Tory majority 29.33%
            Daniel Zeichner Cambridge Predicted Tory majority 11.41%
            Darren Barrenger Harwich and North Essex Predicted Tory majority 25.85%
            Dave Rowntree Cities of London & Westminster Predicted Tory majority 40.42%
            Ian Saunders Beverley and Holderness Predicted Tory majority 22.87%
            Jack Scott Sheffield Hallam Predicted Lib Dem majority 1.95%
            James Alexander York Outer Predicted Tory majority 9.18%
            James Normington Sleaford and North Hykeham Predicted Tory majority 40.58%
            John Piasecki Bracknell Predicted Tory majority 38.36%
            John Tizard Mid Bedfordshire Predicted Tory majority 38.62%
            Jon Tandy Shrewsbury and Atcham Predicted Tory majority 21.81%
            Jude Robinson Camborne and Redruth Predicted Tory majority 1.77%
            Julian Ware-Lane Castle Point Predicted Tory majority 34.55%
            Kathryn White Aylesbury Predicted Tory majority 31.76%
            Kevin Bonavia Southend East Predicted Tory majority 30.91%
            Liam Robinson Fylde Predicted Tory majority 42.84%
            Matthew May South Northamptonshire Predicted Tory majority 45.61%
            Michael Castle Norfolk South Predicted Tory majority 27.18%
            Nancy Platts Brighton Pavilion Predicted Tory majority 4.92%
            Pat Merrick Eddisbury Predicted Tory majority 33.72%
            Robert Smith Havant Predicted Tory majority 33.83%
            Sharon Carr-Brown Bournemouth West Predicted Tory majority 15.07%
            Simon Brugess Brighton Kemptown Predicted Tory majority 12.24%
            Stephen Morgan Orpington Predicted Tory majority 21.48%
            Stephen Twigg Liverpool West Derby Predicted Labour majority 35.23%
            Steve Terry Hertford & Stortford Predicted Tory majority 43.99%
            Swatantra Nandanwar Maldon Predicted Tory majority 49.39%
            Tim Shand Guildford Predicted Tory majority 10.74%
            Tom Flynn Southend West Predicted Tory majority 36.19%

          • Jimmy says:

            He has to nick stories. His big scoop yesterday was it rained in Kent. Of course normally it’s just copying the latest expenses story from the Daily Mail, but this breaks up the monotony. I think that’s the theory anyway.

          • Alright, you got some numbers, but the story is nonetheless late.

          • Sorry Guido old fruit but unless you can prove all those Labour MPs were against P.R. recently then this is what is known as a NON story with some speculative numbers and a graph to tart it up.

            There has always been a small constituency in the Labour AND the Tory Party who wanted an end to first past the post.

            Even the odd Cameroon has bent Dave’s ear about it because of wasted votes, demographics and an aging population eroding a key conservative votebase.

        • 69
          cogitodexter says:

          They’re only up for PR when they’re losing (badly).

          That says a lot.

          http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com

          • I love Shami says:

            Matthew J May (South Northants) was in my tutor group at university. He wasn’t a bundle of laughs then, so i’m not surprised to see that he’s joined Gordon’s comedy circus.

      • 21
        NLJD says:

        Maj

        Its the way I tell’em.

        You have my sympathy, you really have had a hard time from the republican colonials at the Scum / NI / KY TV.

        First of all they bug your phone
        Then they don’t pay their share to keep your troops in the manner they deserve.
        And now they have you blogging in support of Semen on “Spunky Spunky”.

        • 44
          thick as thieves says:

          charles, we know that is you.
          you have been rumbled.
          now fuck off.
          no refund.

        • 81
          Anonymous says:

          NLJD

          You’ve been telt already ya c’unt. Next time yer gettin chibbed

        • 83
          CJ says:

          You’ve been telt already ya jobbie. Next time yer gettin chibbed

          • NLJD says:

            Lord Strathy

            Have you been hanging out with the Tollcross Wee Men again?
            Makes a change from the city centre rent boys.

            Away and bile yer heid ya fat muppet.
            YKP ya bass!

          • rigger says:

            Fuck off and get pissed somewhere else ya jock tranny.

          • CJ says:

            NLJD

            So, now we know your in Glasgow, nice.

          • NLJD says:

            Reggie Perrin’s useless boss

            No shit sherlock, looks like you have gotten it wrong again.
            Your analysis of gangland culture in West Central Scotland is about as lucid as your take on current politics.

            Consequently, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

          • CJ says:

            NLJD

            So then, actually you’re a sad overweight friendless wanker with too much time to kill,,,bless

    • 10
      Master Baiter says:

      These MPs are simply worried that they might be out of a job in the not too distant.

      Have pity on them Conservitudes.

      That is all, isn’t it?

    • 30
      Political rig says:

      What have they got to worry about, the postal voting system has already been heavily rigged by New Labour for New Labour.

    • 46
      • 90
        RavingMad says:

        I’m running out of things to say about new labour and mandelson – have just heard, whilst driving, Vernon Coaker MP trying to smooth over the issue of poor results by poor white boys in school. When challenged about being in power for the last 12 years his response was something like yes, that’s why we’re investing more money for one to one tuition – they accept no responsibility for the trashing of this country and the unelected mandelson seems intent on breaking all records for putting the uk at the bottom of the class. They are indeed shit.

      • 100
        Nick says:

        How New Labour. The latest policy hasn’t been officially announced yet and it is already due for ‘updating’ by statutory instrument.

        I’d be interested to know how NL intends to police the major online storage sites – if they try to blacklist them then I would imagine that they could be sued.

        Also typical to read that the already legally questionable 3 strikes proposal will be strengthened by a rule giving ‘any person as may be specified’ additional powers under the Copyright Act.

        The new rules may be ‘intended’ to stop filesharing, but there’s nothing to stop them being used to restrict freedom of speech and information.

      • 156
        Billy Sarsted says:

        But, rather difficult for them to track people using Peerblock!

    • 151
      Can you believe it? says:

      Yep, the real reason that the Forces in Theatre are struggling to be fully equipped and tooled up for the job, is because News Int. hasn’t sponsored them.

      Tell me again who our Military work for?, and what would Labour’s reaction be if Murdoch decided to put his hand in pocket and buy say 5 Choppers, all the latest and best body armour, and working rifles, and comms that worked, and boots that were right for the conditions, and adequate accommodation etc. etc.

      Think the withdrawl of the Sun’s support has really, really hurt your pride, and belief system.

      Ha, ha suck it up boys!!

      Always a job in ‘Stan. Gr5* rates of pay. And no where near as dangerous as being one of 170 Spin Doctors in Whitehall.

      Bastards

    • 161
      miranda bliar says:

      A couple of MOD chairs i think

      • 167
        Great Granddad says:

        We have a proportionate representation system where I live. It is one of the more corrupt systems that I have ever come across although there may be better versions.

    • 180
      Sarge says:

      Too lazy to write a new post? Repeats I can get on the BBC. Fuck Off.

  2. 2
    Andy Carpark says:

    the tool of the bishop of truro
    was a rich colorado maduro
    and the real cognoscenta
    said his balls were magenta
    shot through with charioscuro

    • 57
      Road_Hog says:

      Ha, ha, the real conundrum for them is how do they fix the system so they can keep seats but not let they minority parties in. Because let’s face it, NuLabour don’t want proper democratic reform, oh no. This has been discussed on Labour forums.

      If they were to go for PR, then that would let in the B&P & UKIP and we wouldn’t what the voters getting the MPs that they wanted, no, they must only choose NuLabour or BluLabour. So now they’re coming out with some contrived AV system, which will be so complicated that the general public will not have any idea of who they’re really voting for.

      I’d certainly vote for PR even with all its faults, because Labour would get spanked by the B&P and the Tories would get a good kicking from UKIP every time they decided to ignore the concerns of the voter, such as the EU & immigration.

  3. 4
    Dick the Prick says:

    Quelle surprise. They really are a bunch of mendacious hoons of the highest order.

  4. 5
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    Gordon Brown U-Turn over X-Factor Jedward…

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/news/a187678/gordon-brown-clarifies-jedward-remark.html

    • 12
      Premier Gordon Brown says:

      I like Jamie Afro best. I’m backing him to win X-Factor.

    • 28
      Number 7 says:

      How do you reverse the kiss of death?

    • 31
      Thud Hardbutt says:

      Look’s like Stacey has just been blessed with the Jonah Curse! Run for the Hills Stacey cos your career is now fooked beyond your wildest expectations! I bet Danni Minougue now just wants to put her head in the oven! c”,)

    • 39
      Mike Naylor says:

      ‘Brown also said that his children enjoy Danyl Johnson’s performances, but mistakenly referred to the teacher as “Daryl”‘

      I blame the Sun

  5. 6
    Lizzie says:

    Ah…I see it is survival of the Labour fattest, oh sorry fittest, yes. If it wasn’t so serious I am sure we could laugh. Don’t these Labour MPs remind you of some one…..they are called “cannibals”.

    • 74
      Master Baiter says:

      Chew on this Lizzie:

      1997 result

      Labour 416
      Conservitude 165

      What is Port a loo doing now?

      • 94
      • 107
        Mongrel says:

        Chew on this wankpot:
        1997 result recast for PR, as these Hoons now say they want:
        Labour 285
        Conservative 202
        LibDem 111
        Others 61
        So there would have been a hung parliament, and the last 12 years would not have happened.
        Only now, as they are being herded towards the abattoir, do they start squealing for PR, which shows how dishonest you all are.

      • 127
        McGroom says:

        I can’t wait to see Jim Knight, Ben Bradshaw, Jim Murphy, Alistair Darling, Jack Straw, Liam Byrne, John Denham, Dawn Primarolo, Sadiq Khan and Tessa Jowell all have their Portillio moment in Peckham on the morning of 7th May 2010.

        They should all be unseated unless there is an unisually high number of postal votes

        • 145
          McRetard says:

          I assume your omission of Five Bellies is not admiration but difficulty with thinking about Ladysmith being rewarded with a lifetime troughing opportunity.

      • 181
        Sarge says:

        Yes, chew on this time warp boy -it’s fucking 2009 so 1997 is irrelevant?

        If you really want to let’s chat about Michael Foot etc.

        Get a grip.

  6. 7
    Stepney says:

    Gordon Brown, as we know, is a PASSIONATE supporter of Electoral Reform.

    So PASSIONATE is he, that for his entire political life he has kept his PASSION a complete secret.*

    He really is that passionate about it.

    * until faced with electoral meltdown and the legacy of being the man that killed the Labour movement.

    • 9
      Lizzie says:

      I would never have put Brown in the “passionate” column. Rumour has it he doesn’t sleep with Sarah.

      • 15
        NLJD says:

        They sleep in separate beds with a turkey baster in a glass case case mounted on the landing in case Gordon feels like trying another one of his disastrous popularity stunts.

        • 34
          NLJD says:

          Lowest of the Low

          Away and get your own identity ya muppet.
          How ill you know the correct NLJD?

          The NI / Scum hypocrisy question.
          Haw Murdock away and pay yer corporation tax.
          Stop mucking about with the phones.

          As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

          • NLJD says:

            Master Baiter, Turkey Baster
            Master Baiter, Turkey Baster

          • Master Baiter says:

            Who is the real me?

            Even I chuckled as I rolled the words…

            Master Baiter, Turkey Baster around for a min or two.

            Isn’t it?

          • Australian says:

            The real NLJD will always be known from his dreadful spelling and the meaningless garbage that he spouts.

            Simple really!

          • Anonymous says:

            All these New Labour Jock Drones look the same to me.

          • NLJD says:

            Mousey

            And all you rabid right wing mentalist loons who inhabit “Spunky Spunky” without putting up your names are shitehawks of the highest order.

            Put up or shut up!

          • Anonymous says:

            NLJD

            You’ve been telt already ya Huhne. Next time yer gettin chibbed

          • Once more with feeling says:

            Lord Strathy

            Have you been hanging out with the Tollcross Wee Men again?
            Makes a change from the city centre rent boys.

            Away and bile yer heid ya fat muppet.
            YKP ya bass!

          • NLJD says:

            The Labour party is the party of eternal war, friend of fraudulent bankers, courageous swindler of peoples pensions, poverty inducing taxation, corporatist fascism, police statism, corruption, war crimes and treason.

            I stand by them to the bitter end, long live Labour!!!

      • 54
        Waking the dead says:

        Brown never sleeps – he simply closes his eye.

    • 19
      Paddy Ashdown says:

      He promised it’d happen.

      You don’t think he lied to me, do you?

      I enjoyed sitting in the cabinet room with the big boys, though.

      • 45
        jgm2 says:

        I’ll bet you did Paddy. Right up until they revealed your little affair to the meeja. The Lib Dems rather took their eye off the PR Bill they were promised after that.

        Typical Campbell that. Smear you and then if you complain that they’d reneged over PR, he’d just say it was ‘sour grapes’ and anyway, who were you to be complaining about reneging when you’d reneged on your wife.

        Labour – because being in power is an end in itself.

    • 62
      NotaSheep says:

      Id be more interested if Brown honestly explained why he “wouldn’t give the people a say” on the EU Constitution.

      • 73
        jgm2 says:

        Brown is incapable of honesty. His natural response to any question is to attempt to triangulate where this is all leading. And since any series of questions, honestly answered by Brown would expose him as a serial liar, fantasist and lunatic he is now at the point where he doesn’t even bother triangulating since there is no scenario, no matter how implausible, that would be consistent with the series of knee-jerk lies and bullshit he’s spouted this past 12 years.

        So now he quite literally says the first thing that comes into his head. As long as it’s a lie.

        And if you pulled him up on it five minutes later he’d flat-out deny he ever said it.

        Lie upon lie upon lie.

        Oh – and lest we get distracted by PR, Afghan war, x-Factor etc etc. The economy is still fucked and it was this imbecile Labour government of all the imbeciles that fucked it.

  7. 8
    Mitch says:

    PR is superficially attractive but fundamentally flawed. Nobody would understand it and the winnng candidate would be the ‘least worst’. And we’d probably have those anti-democratic constituency lists as well.

    The turkeys at Westminster will never vote for it; too un-predictable.

    Oh, and there’d have to be a refrendum on such a big constitutional change.

    • 14
      Lizzie says:

      You will never get a referendum out of Gordon if he thinks it will go against his will, he ego will not permit it. Bring on Leaders Debate in 3D please.

    • 16
      Gordon Brown says:

      Why do I need to have a refrendum? I didn’t have one for the LIEbon Treaty.

    • 23
      X marks the spot says:

      I haven’t lived in a constituency with any prospect of a Tory majority since I was a teenager. I’ll be voting LibDem at the GE because my priority is to ensure the Labour candidate loses but, if we had PR, I’d almost certainly vote Tory this time around.

      • 32
        Mitch says:

        Exactly – tactical voting would get so complicated we’d end up voting for the suport-him-because-he’ll-stop-her-and-then-I’ll-get-mine-in-probably candidate.

        • 101
          Sir William Waad says:

          PR voting is simple, as long as you can mark a cross, or in the more complex systems, count to three. No vote is wasted. The people get the Parliament they voted for. You don’t get a minority party like NuLab pretending that the psephological accident that put it in power gives it a mandate to go on a five-year, self-indulgent destructive binge. The different parties often have to work together. Most legislation is based on consensus. PR-elected governments are only ‘weak’ in the sense that democracy is weak compared with Stalinism.

          • Archer Karcher says:

            Can someone explain why the Green Party, who have never won more than 260,000 votes in any GE, have their ecoloon policies adopted by the three major parties, without exception or question?

            If this really is consensus politics, then surely you must ask, what is it the consensus of?

            Because it sure as hell is not the consensus of the British people.

    • 63

      I’ll take least worst please. Everytime.

  8. 11
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Brown’s still in denial about the level of public debt, but at least someone else has finally woken up:

    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article6922325.ece

    • 17
      Lizzie says:

      Yes…you see it is not coming out of his personal bank account, the money is coming out of yours, easy to be in denial then.

      • 29
        Boycott the Licence Fee says:

        It’s not coming out of mine, love. I saw it all being engineered through the early to mid part of this decade and sold out of sterling and dollars at the peak. I put this all down to not believing anything the government assures me of, nor anything in the Daily Express, the BBC etc. This bill will have to be picked up by your soap-watching sheeple. The wages of ignorance is skintitude.

      • 35
        labour=scum says:

        that is the problem-these hoons have no accountability!

        if we all stopped paying tax then they would be stuffed!!!!!!

        no more wars-no more expenses-no more bailouts-no more aid!!!!!!

        brown and darling will escape with NO financial worries.unlike millions of us who are paying for the lunacy………..

        even O’bama has woken up!

        (after the u.s have enslaved them selves to the chinese-phuqwits)!

        • 51
          Billy Sarsted says:

          If it was possible for us all to stop paying tax they would be fucked, not even any money for themselves but unfortunately, unlikely, unless anyone knows any different.

    • 36
      McGroom says:

      At least Obama has a basic understanding of economics

      where Brown has a socialists understanding of economics where you keep spending until you get thrown out of office

      ask Mikhail Gorbachev

      • 138
        Archer Karcher says:

        Obama has a basic understanding of economics?!?!?

        Wow, now I have heard everything. He is as dumb as McSnot, he is just looks good and articulates better than McRuin, when he has a teleprompter in front of him.

  9. 20
    Number 7 says:

    This was on ukpolls.uk on13/11/09.

    Wake up Guido!

    They’re coming round othe blind side (just for a change).

  10. 24
    McGroom says:

    too little too late

    Labour don’t have the funds to fight marginals, so most of the right hand end of the graph will be deselected anyway

    financial misconduct = no candidates

  11. 27
    labour=scum says:

    all they care about is themselves!!!!!!!!!

    they would steal,cheat and lie all day long-just to keep themselves in power or for financial gain……….

    they sicken me…….

    send them all to fight in shitistan………

  12. 42
    James says:

    They’ll never put PR in the Commons, ‘cos then all the fringe parties will wind up with seats, and the old school won’t want to be seen with them.

    I can see them trying to get AV in the Commons, ‘cos that’ll confuse the electorate and put them off voting.

    Elections Rulebook:
    Rule 1: try to get people to vote for you.
    Rule 2: if they won’t vote for you, try to put them off voting at all.

    • 61
      jgm2 says:

      Yep. PR – that’s the system that returned Nick Griffin and his mate to the EU trough. They’ll struggle todo well under PR in the UK with an electorate that voted them fourth (thats fourth) the last time they got a PR opportunity.

      Tee hee.

  13. 50
    On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

    What these Labour numpties don’t realise is that because the First Past The Post system is so horribly skewed in their favour, any alternative system results in a loss of seats for Labour.

    And the AV+ system that they’ll recommend will be a hard sell to the voters – a “top up” system of completely unaccountable party apparatchiks? Yeah, that sounds like what we need.

    • 72
      THX1138 says:

      You are sooo right. They should be careful what they wish for.

      Try adding up the 2009 EU results as an example.

      Tory + UKIP + BNP = about 40
      Lib + Lab + SNP + Plaid Cymru + Sinn Feinn + DUP + UP = about 30

      First item on the agenda by Farage and Old Nick

      “No Tory business until the country gets a referendum on leaving the EU.”

      2 X BNP successes put the dampers on PR.

    • 96
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Look for the silver lining. There will be fewer “Completely unaccountable party apparatchiks”, AKA “the Unelectables”, clogging the arteries of good governance in the Civil Service as SPADs.

    • 183
      On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

      The Electoral Reform Society’s review of the 2005 election was interesting – it showed that under STV (the best system, and the one the Lib Dems would put in) the Tories would have the same number of seats, the fringe parties would get a dozen, and Labour would lose over a hundred to the Lib Dems.

      Which means that if there’s a hung parliament, you could see a short-lived Lib/Con “electoral reform” government.

  14. 52
    Baron Bumchomper says:

    If Tarzan was alive today, Gordon Brown would hit him with a Swingers Tax

  15. 55
    Rumpole says:

    It’s nice to see so many English names there.

  16. 58
    jgm2 says:

    In any case if they do propose a referendum on PR in their manifesto that will just give the green light to every commentator, LibDem spokesman and Tory spokesman to ask them why we’re having another PR referendum so soon on the back of the one we had in 1997.

    Oh we didn’t?

    Just like we didn’t get the referendum on Lisbon that both Labour and the Lib Dems promised in their last manifesto.

    I think we can safely assume that there will be no PR referendum commitment. Surely the LibDem leadership and their voters wouldn’t fall for the same lie twice in only 13 years.

    • 65
      Master Baiter says:

      The thing is nobody expected the UK general election, 1997 held on 1 May 1997, more than five years after the previous election on 9 April 1992.
      The Labour Party won the general election in a landslide victory with 418 seats, the most seats the party has ever held. The Conservatives ended up with 165 seats, the fewest seats they have held since the 1906 General Election, and with no MPs for seats in Scotland or Wales.

      Labour 418
      Conservitude 165

      Hahahaha

      • 67
        Master Baiter says:

        Master Baiter, Turkey Baster
        Master Baiter, Turkey Baster

        Hahahahahahohohohohoheeheeheehee.

      • 75
        jgm2 says:

        So Labour won more seats than they expected and so reneged on their manifesto commitment.

        The first of many lies.

        • 82
          Master Baiter says:

          Pretty convincing victory really.

          Hahahaha happy days

        • 85
          Master Baiter says:

          It’s not as if it was a cast iron guarantee is it?

          • Fragmeister says:

            I heard yesterday a certain Scottish mono-optical idiot say something about a cast i-Ron. Is this like an i-Pod? Can I store my entire collection of idiotic Labour promises on it? Like a referendum on Lisbon before said Scottish twat sneaked off on his own to sign it in a broom cupboard away from the prying eyes of anyone who might not want him to sign it.

            By the way, these rhymes about Master Baiter and the turkey remind me of a passage on Sylvia Plath’s The Bell Jar where she likens a penis to a turkey neck. Apt.

      • 84
        James says:

        Yeah…

        Labour aren’t really going to laughing next June. At this rate, they could be pushed into 3rd place.

        Plus, I don’t really think ANY government holding such a massive majority is conducive to a proper democracy, where legislation is scrutinised as opposed to just being slung onto the statute book. The general understanding in the Commons is that a Bill ‘should’ receive cross-party consensus before it’s put into law. Unfortunately, with Labour having such large majorities, esp. in their first 2 terms, have just forced Bills through on the whip.

        You call that representative democracy?

        • 144
          Archer Karcher says:

          They do not even bother putting Bills through the house these days. The fascist ZaNuRats use statutory instruments, thus avoiding the tiresome process of democracy altogether.

          The parasites need to be destroyed forever.

      • 87
        Gordon Brown stole my pension says:

        It’s a bit sad to be celebrating the victory of 1997. I wonder if the bunting’s still up in Number 10 — put up by Mr Blair, when he jumped up and down shouting, “I’m Prime Minister! I’m Prime Minister”, before calming down to spend the next decade wanking over Britain, destroying the fabric of our society and killing tens of thousands of men, women and children in countries that had previously admired us.

        Let’s see what the results are like in 6 months’ time, when the Tories, lead as they are by a vacuous opportunistic lying little shit, piss all over Labour.

        Hahahahahaha. Cretin.

        • 93
          Master Baiter says:

          Is it misery?

          Out in the cold dark blankness?

          Hahahaha

          • Mongrel says:

            You are going to find out very soon. And there won’t be any jobs going in state-funded Quangos for scum like you, so enjoy your dole.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Ah, on the dole was it, how frightful.

            The yearning to win and losing all the time must be a real burden.

          • McGroom says:

            You’ll find out in May next year

          • Mongrel says:

            Don’t be such a twat. The only time I have been on the dole was when I was a student 35 years ago. And as I am not a member or supporter of any political party, the idea of being “out in the cold” means nothing to me. But your lot are so comprehensively shit that it has become critically important to get them out.

  17. 59
    Master Baiter says:

    What with Conservitudes bleating about ‘Localismo’ and ‘Volunteerismo’ and other ‘o’s whilst at the same time ramming candidates up local parties and down their throats it is relevant to consider the constitutions of political parties.

    Who gets selected, how whips operate, stuff like that.

    Unfortunately the intellectually lightweight blog host Guidiot the Big Oaf has no clue on such details of the real workings of the UK’s representative democracy, isn’t it?

    We do know that Dan Hannan is so scared of being knocked off the top of the Conservitude list for the EU Parliament that he has taped his own mouth shut with Duck Tape.

    Hahahaha

    • 66
      Master Baiter says:

      Too long,

      have a happy loofa spoofa.

      Hahahahahaha

      • 78
        Master Baiter says:

        Ah diddums, working very hard, don’t forget to scrub hard with that lovely loofa, spoofa.

        Hahahaha

      • 86
        NLJD says:

        MB

        At some point on here the rabid right wing loons will work out that it is not the Tory Party that will be up for election at the next GE it will be the Scratchy Appreciation Society.

        Yiou have got to hand it to him that he really has worked a flanker with all these exotic candidates, some of them even have tits you know, he has managed to foist onto Smugshire Coastal and Suburbia Good Life.

        They owe nothing to the good denizens who will be electing them but everything to Team Scratchy. I fear the seeds of discontent are being sown as the plebs wake up to the fact that they have been royally rogered by Toffs r’ Us.

        Slow burner but it will get interesting.

    • 170
      Master Baiter says:

      Did I really write that? What an unmitigated little shit I am.

      Isn’t it.

      Hahahahaha – ulp!

  18. 68
    NLJD says:

    Piss off multiple Baiters, I’m the only paid up Labour goon on this site.

    • 91
      NLJD says:

      Lowest of the Low

      Where is the Scum / NI corporation tax question?

      What are there revenues in the UK?
      What is the operating profit in the UK?
      What is the corporation tax payment in the UK?

      • 119
        English Heretic says:

        Offshore – like the The Guardian Group’s is?

      • 148
        NLJD says:

        Where is all the billions we gave to the banks gone?

        Where are all the billions we have given the EU gone, dont ask them their accountants dont know either.

        Where has all the billions on PFI gone?

        Where has all the money in millions of peoples pensions, robbed by Gordon McRuin gone?

        How many troops lives could the murderer have saved if he had protected our soldiers, instead of paying hundreds of millions of pounds to pen pushers in bonus payments?

        WHEN WILL LABOURS ETERNAL WARS EVER END?

        • 153
          NLJD says:

          I have to admit to walking around all day with my favourite ‘Love Balls’

          That is why I am so happy all the Time.

          Have slept with a dark prince once, but he tore my anus badly.

          • NLJD says:

            Oh my God there are two of them.

            It just gets better and better.

            Therapy howling at the moon for rabid right wing nutters.
            Bullying at your second string private schools must have been worse than I thought.

            Seme, I have to hand it too you, “Spunky Spunky” is doing its bit to aid these sad individuals in their time of need.

            As mentioned before the only people to have lost out are the manufacturers of green ink.

            Why waste a stamp when you can rant and rave to your heart’s content without having to deal with real people.

            I fear they have just got over the Great Reform bill but universal suffrage is a step too far at the moment. You can spot them as they still wear a cap to doff at any passing aristo or Scratchy minion.

            Consequently back to work you shower of rent boy using shite:

            1) What is the Scum / NI / KY TV’s UK turnover?
            2) What is there operating profit margin?
            3) How much corporation tax do they pay in the UK?

            Regarding the Grauniad, their time will come, shower of Cameron loving shysters that they are.

            However they are not the hypocrites that NI / Jnr Jnr / Raging Rebecca are.

            Remember the real “NLJD” is the only one who asks the NI / Scum / KY TV corporation tax question.

            No question — Not real.

          • thick as thieves says:

            you have already been warned fuckers! spoofing names is the domain of Top Boy and ONLY Top Boy.I will rip your fucking lungs out and there will be severe consequences if any of you shit-munchers continue this without my premission. You may now go.
            innit?

      • 164
        miranda bliar says:

        Is my close friend tony bliar paying U.K taxes?He seems to be offshore quite a lot.The Scum seems to be panicking some of my fellow socialists.Funny how we kept quiet when it supported the brothers.

  19. 70
    anonymouse in the Treasury skirting boards says:

    ROTFLMAO – There really is a Labour candidate called Damien Welfare?

    Has he a middle name? Livinon, perhaps, or Wheresmy, maybe?

    Couldn’t make it up!

  20. 79
    Mr Plum says:

    Lab worms are stunned by ‘phaser’

    Scientists have shown off an effect not unlike that of the “phasers” in the show Star Trek.

    John Redwood denies any involvment.

  21. 89
    Master Baiter says:

    Both sides are going to have to lie like they’ve never lied before.

    Hahahaha

  22. 95
    Sir William Waad says:

    Hmmm……people getting the Parliament they voted for……can’t have that!

  23. 97
    Anonymous says:

    It’s all about money; always has been, always will be.

    They want more troughing money and don’t want to lose.

    They don’t give a flying fuck about the country or about other people generally, they’re the kind of people who would sell their grannies for a new iphone.

    They are complete scum, they are like de-evolved humans; lower than chimps.

  24. 102

    [...] on Guido Fawkes’s blog of parliamentary plots and rumour; but today he breaks the news that 34 Labour PPCs have written to Gordon Brown “begging him for a referendum on reforming the electoral system.” According to Guido, [...]

  25. 103
    kinder says:

    So why didn’t Mandlepump give it the go ahead, as they all seemed quite keen not so long ago?

  26. 106
    Master Baiter says:

    If Guidiot the Big Oaf as he claims has such high traffic why doesn’t he show on a counter how many are on line?
    Maybe someone else can do it for him?
    It seems to be about six, max.

    Hahaha

    • 172
      Master Baiter says:

      If MB the little shit as he claims has such an obsessive compulsive disorder why doesn’t he show on a counter how many times he posts for deary-weary Gordon and the other fucking traitors in Liebore?
      Maybe someone else can do it for him? One of his troll SPAD scrotes from Liebore Huhnery
      It seems to be about six thousand
      Innit

  27. 109
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    “Straws” and “grasping” comes to mind

    Isn’t Gordon in favour of the single transferable vote until a candidate gets over 50% of the votes cast? Hardly more representative than the current first past the post

  28. 112
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    Is there REALLY a Nulab MP called Damien Welfare???

    You couldn’t make it up.

  29. 120
    Master Baiter says:

    Voting should be compulsory, it is in Australia.

    However insted of a modest fine for not casting a ballot there should be a small emolument for doing so.

    Say twenty five pounds?

  30. 125
    I hate new Labour says:

    Don’t worry Labour scum, there’ll be *change* all right…

  31. 134
    Hughes. says:

    The boundary changes gradually moving the Conservatives way again is the sole reason Brown started talking about electoral reform. Like the last 12 years, the next opposition would be running to standstill in terms of gaining seats. If we get rid of these fiscally incompetent bastards they could well spend another generation out of power. The longer it is before they get their hands on the Treasury again, the better.

  32. 136
    Number 7 says:

    OT – Harperson’s being prosecuting for diving into a parked car.

    Wimmin drivers!

  33. 139
    Anonymous says:

    Hope UKIP’s candidate in Beckenham is up to speed.

  34. 141
    Sir William Waad says:

    Can anybody explain this trollish obsession with spaff?

  35. 143
    Anonymous says:

    Desperate Labour Politicians= cheating bastards !

  36. 149
    RavingMad says:

    the only reform I can think of would not be liked by new labour – it would be the publc hanging of the lot of them, without trial, that can wait until later.

  37. 154
    Prodicus says:

    I’ve only heard of one of these bastards and that’s only because he’s a blogger. They will all be sorely missed.

  38. 158
    Miguel M says:

    The correct spelling is :

    INSTALMENT.

    Education, education, education.

  39. 165
    Susie says:

    One small requestte Guido… couldn’t you get them to change that belly fat womanbot? She reminds me of 5 bellies wearing Sarah Borwn’s head. Most off-putting.

  40. 173
    Master Baiter says:

    Harriet the Mad Bitch to be prosecuted.

    Good.

  41. 174
    Moley says:

    I can see why these people are agrieved.

    Mr Swindell should clearly have been in the Cabinet and on the standards and privileges committee, and surely they could have found a place in a Labour cabinet for Mr Welfare?

  42. 175
    Anonymous says:

    Holborn,

    I sent this to Guido, its th truth. So what if it is on TwatList.org?

  43. 179
    Spam Javelin says:

    that graph looks like one of ian dale’s ties

  44. 182
    Spam Javelin says:

    that graph looks like one of iain dale’s ties

  45. 184

    Look Guido, it’s all very well to joke but this is a serious issue. We have an overwhelmingly corrupted House of Commons. And that’s because 400 out of 646 MPs are in safe seats. They get elected once and as long as they do two tours of parliament and a dinner once a year – and don’t break any serious laws – they will get reselected. So there’s a culture of disregard for the voters.

    So they didn’t give a toss about the voters when they filled in their expenses forms and they didn’t give a toss about the voters when they made the expenses rules. Because safe seats are the enemy of the people.

    So yes I want electoral reform Guido. Because I do want to be elected and I do want to achieve something. And every election, I want to have the chance to lose my seat if I wasn’t good enough in the previous four years. And for 400 MPs that isn’t the case. Which is why there are so many lazy, mad decrepit, stupid and downright bad MPs.

    Guido, you should be lauding us. We’re trying to inject a free market into politics where people get to choose their representatives rather than party leaderships; where crap MPs and lose their seats so standards can be driven up; and where the voters everywhere matter, not just the 150,000 swing voters in marginal seats.

    So you have a pretty graph, well done. Now get your head out of your arse and do something useful for once and use your blog to back electoral reform. Otherwise all your waffle about how bad MPs are is just onanistic guff.

    Yours,

    Alex Hilton
    Labour candidate for Chelsea & Fulham

  46. 185
    christanne says:

    basis made retreat century

  47. 186
    Stephen says:

    Have you ever thought of recruiting a correspondent who actually knows anything about the Labour Party and its people.

    I only ask because of all the people I personally know on that list, they’ve all been committed to PR since they started in politics & they were all members of LCER.

    Twigg and Pakes for example were both NUS presidents elected by PR who have vocally supported PR since their teens.

    I know this is a partisan website but this is like revealing Ken Clarke as a pro European.

  48. 188
    Cardinal del Monte says:

    What’s happened to Guido? Is he dead, or just hungover?

  49. 190
    neilfutureboy says:

    That these guys expect to benefit from PR is irrelevent to whether, in itself, it is a good & democratic measure, which it is. You could at least equally well point out that the politicians who support this corrupt system are uniformly the ones that support it.

    For example at the Euro elections Labour & Conservatives, the only parties who appear to benefit from this corruption & what may be the wildest of coincidences, the only ones who support it got fewer than half the votes.

    Apart from high explosives the way to make Britain a democracy is to have an electoral system whereby the parties elected represent us in a way closely representative of the way we chose to vote for them. Anybthing else is not only undemocratic it entrenches in party appartchiks in a power monoploy. Ease of market entry is better than monopoly in economics & even moreso in politics.

    And of course these MPs are absolutely right that doing so & the Tories refusing us the choice is probably the only thing that could get Labour back in this election & would be likely to get them back at the next.



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