November 18th, 2009

Buscombe Reconfirms, Greenslade Corrects
and the Comrades Collectively Respond

The unpopular parts of the blogosphere have got all in a tizzy about the PCC expanding into regulating blogs.  Round robins have been signed, letters have been sent to ministers, high horses have been mounted. For nothing.  It was all a misinterpretation which could have been corrected by one of them simply calling the PCC and asking them for comment.  Guido did this basic check.  This apparently makes him an establishment toady.  Guido thought it was just good journalistic practice.

Roy Greenslade has just published a clarification:

Buscombe clarifies blogging intentions: only volunteers will be regulated: PCC chairman Peta Buscombe has said she does not want to regulate bloggers after all unless they sign up for it

In her letter she refers to “my apparent proposal to regulate the blogosphere” and clarifies what she said to The Independent’s media writer Ian Burrell. She writes:

“My point to him was about the dangers of over-regulation, the misplaced desire that can be common to governments to seek to control areas of freedom.  Blogging, as your letter rightly suggests, is a clear area where freedom of expression is absolutely paramount. I have no desire to infringe on that.  My point was that, as there is already pressure to increase regulation of the internet, it is important to make clear that this must not lead to some form of statutory interference.  Rather, a system of self-regulation (such as exists by the PCC for newspapers) would be more appropriate, if any bloggers wished to go down that route. [my italics]  I say ‘wish’, because any advance in this area would have to be consensual. Self-regulation is about collaboration between willing parties.  The PCC is not in any way constituted to impose its views on the unwilling and cannot simply extend its remit to cover non-newspaper sites.”

In other words, she is making it clear that she does not want to regulate bloggers after all unless they sign up for it.

The Fabian Society’s Sunda Katawala has tried to do some rebuttal, as well as some sub-editing, but the fact remains, the PCC had no intention of regulating blogs, nor could it without consent and no consent will be forthcoming.  Guido also spoke with the Indy’s Ian Burrell, he confirms the obvious “Regarding blog regulations, I don’t think they are going to impose it. They can’t impose it can they? They would need to work with people voluntarily”. So comrade bloggers, don’t fear, the storm in a tea-cup is abated…


  1. 1
    Ken Lorp says:

    Oh good!

    I shall sleep soundly tonight.


  2. 2
    gone fuckin mental says:

    its free speech or censorship , simples


  3. 3
    rick says:

    It always starts like this. Why would anybody voluntarily sign up to be regulated by a bunch of crooks in the first place?


    • 140
      streamfisher says:

      Watch Manchester, first place where you can give the Government 30 quid to take all your details and get an I.D.card, great Xmas present for people you don’t like.


    • 161
      Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

      Like income taxpayers do, Rick?

      Before you start, 16 months income tax in the last 38years. The other taxes could not be so easily avoided, except of course the Poll Tax, of which I never paid a penny; just went further underground. Paid some car tax, not too much to often.

      15 years in Europe, not a cent of income tax.

      My lifestyle is not for everybody, which is just as well, possibly?


  4. 4
    Nick says:

    So how many newspapers? 100 at most.

    How many seats on the PCC? basically most of them.

    So if 100 bloggers sign up does that mean they get half the seats?

    If so, I’m all for it. A majority of bloggers on the PCC, plus some other bloggers making complaints would be a laugh


    • 177
      Steve Expat says:

      There’s less than a dozen national newspaper titles, possibly a hundred or so including local publishers.

      The problem with trying to regulate bloggers is one of jurisdiction. Some bloggers may be based in the UK, Guido is quite open that his comments are published by a company in the Caribbean (St. Kitts?) and his server is in the US – so how is the UK PCC supposed to regulate this site on a voluntary basis?


  5. 5
    gone fuckin mental says:

    O/t daves doing a good speech


    • 7
      The IMF is coming says:

      Getting stuck in
      Stoats for the goats


    • 34
      Steve Expat says:

      Very good speech. Makes a change from the usual Wednesday lunchtime slanging match.

      This is one of the very few times that the Leader of the Opposition has a chance to lead the debate – the bit where he asked Grodoom to stand up (twice) and confirm that he will work with the other parties to implement Kelly’s recommendations was a good indication of what Broon thinks on that subject.

      “The Children’s Secretary is incapable of sitting quietly in the class” was a superb retort to Balls being told to shut up by the Speaker!


      • 40
        Mr Ned says:

        I am working and too busy to watch just now. (watching code compile zzzZZZZZ)

        I wonder if all of it will be available on iplayer or youtube.

        From past experience, the BBC have a habit of showing everything Brown says, but cutting away during Cameron’s speech to get the inane ramblings of some old dinosaurs.


      • 100
        CHIPPY says:

        Having been caught out talking a load of bullshit everytime he and his fellow knuckle heads open their mouths.We are now being told they will pass a law to stop them telling porkies .Brown would make a good script writer for a Carry On film.Dave made him look what he is a right idiot, when asked Brown to back the Kelly verdict on MPs fiddles.As usual bottler was true to form.


        • 216
          Down with Brown! says:

          Absolutely disgusting that there was nothing in the Queen’s speech about expenses. Vote Labour to reward troughers.


  6. 6
    Thats News says:

    Why does Sundra always sound so up himelf? Oh. Silly question.


  7. 9
  8. 10
    Anonymous says:

    “Political calculation dressed up as moral conviction”

    nice one Cameron


  9. 11
    gone fuckin mental says:

    good speech dave


  10. 12
    Fubar_Saunders says:

    It demonstrates the awful bias of the BBC. And it’s allegiance to Brown.

    Which makes me sick to the stomach. Especially the 10’000’000 stooges they hire to vote for them. All on the pay roll.

    One big conspiracy. All stooges. Everyone who watches the BBC is also a stooge. Paid by brown to boost BBC viewing figures


  11. 14
    Russell Brand (Alledgedly) says:

    I hope no-one will be stupid enough to submit to a code of conduct! Next thing you know,the Government will point to some abuse (probably contrived) and use it as a reason to crack down.Stay away from association with Governments.


  12. 15
    SO17 says:

    ‘Voluntarily’ like ‘incentive’ could mean try living without it.
    ID cards would be voluntary to begin with but those of us that chose not to conform would find paying a bill or buying anything without ID impossible in future.


  13. 17
    Rexel 56 says:

    Slovakia doubling it’s troops in Afghanistan!!! Anyone know what fuck-all x two equals?


  14. 19
    gone fuckin mental says:

    brown is shit at jokes


  15. 21
    Sir William Waad says:

    It’s a relief to know that Guido’s competitors will remain free to publish lies, gossip, unsubstantiated rumour and malevolent ad hominem attacks.


  16. 23
    Fubar_Saunders says:

    You should really check out the BBC blogs. They have hired 250 stooges to pretend to be Labour voters.

    One even had the gall to call me biased


    • 37
      Steve Expat says:

      25% of the adult population (10 million?) are STILL telling pollsters they will vote Liebour. I guess that’s the 5 million on “Benefits” and the 5 million civil servants??


      • 60
        Doled But Not Bowled says:

        here don’t be cheeky son

        since the collapse of my third marriage and having nowhere to live and no job I’m glad to at least survive, even if it is in this vomit infested country – i don’t vote anyway – so look out who your talking about


      • 108
        Sir William Waad says:

        Many retired people also assume that they will do better under Labour. They especially value the NHS which, rightly or wrongly, they assume will be more favoured under a Labour government.


        • 121
          Master Baiter says:

          Older people have more experience than the young. Older people have more health issues and don’t suffer from the invincible and immortal delusion of the young.
          The old know the Conservitudes views on the National Health Service. Please don’t refer to it as the NHS as though it were some former colonial far eastern victorian drug pushers’ bank that scurried to the UK after the surrender of a colony.

          It’s the National Health Service, isn’t it?


        • 123
          13eastie (169 days: Goodbye Gordon!) says:

          Are these the same retired people whom NHS staff routinely invite to disclose whether they own their own home so that this information can be passed on to Social Services?

          The same elderly folk for whom a hospital admission frequently results in the seizure and sale of their property, sometimes without their knowledge?

          Even if they were/are mis-guided enough to vote Labour, they deserve better than this?


          • Master Baiter says:

            No it’s a different one. The system that clean’s people out of their possessions is the one operating in the US of A. The fake land of the free. Where working people get ten days holiday per year. Where people frequently lose everything and are thrown out on the street when a family member succumbs to a chronic illness because of exorbitant thieving medical mafias.

            Ask Dan Hannan, he’s all for the US system because it allows scuzzy ‘insurance’ companies to fleece people to the extent that health care costs twice as much to deliver in the US as in the UK.

            Isn’t it?


          • 13eastie (169 days: Goodbye Gordon!) says:

            As usual, you’re wrong, Charles.

            This is what happens every day under Labour.

            Lower middle class folk — often people who have worked hard all their lives to become the first generation of their family in living memory to own a property — get admitted to hospital, commence long-term anti-psychotic ‘therapy’, and eventually leave (often worse than they came in) bound for a care home, paid for by the state from the proceeds of the forced sale of the only asset they own.

            The rich don’t need social care — they don’t have as many health problems anyway and they can afford private nursing.

            The poor or life-long-lazy get everything for free.

            It is the socially-mobile grafters that Labour really despises.


          • A system that makes people pay for their own health!

            It’s much better that every one else pays, and gives jobs to bureaucrats and then the make the ill hope for a ration of treatment after a long wait.

            The NHS is the worst treatment, with the worst incentives and funded in the worst possible way.


          • Master Baiter says:

            The medical insurance company bureaucrats in the US far outweigh the number and overhead of the UK National Health Service and that is why US health care costs so much more and delivers so much less.

            The fake ‘free market’ nostrums don’t wash any more.


          • Master Baiter says:

            People who are ill in this country, for the moment, get free health care. The Labour Party brought in the National Health Service.

            Is the National Health Service safe in the hands of people like Dan Hannan?

            Maybe not.


          • 13eastie (169 days: Goodbye Gordon!) says:


            I know you can’t stick to the subject and I suspect that this is because you cannot make a cohesive argument about anything.

            The simple point being made is that, as a percentage of any wealth they have, the elderly (who, by the way have already paid a whole lifetime of tax and NI towards their retirement and care), especially if they have striven to climb the social ladder during their working lives, get screwed more than anyone else by Labour, whose class-war antics serve to negate and disincentivise aspiration and work.

            This is nothing to do with UK healthcare provision.

            It is to do with Labour’s contemptuous content with pulling the rug from beneath people who have worked hard to improve their lot.

            Labour: Keeping You Poor


          • Yep, they are stopped from competing across state lines by regulation.

            The U.S. System of Healthcare delivers treatment, it merely needs to be regulated less.

            Tort law reform is what’s needed to reduce punitive damages.

            It’s self evident that if we can’t all pay for our own health then no-one else can. Health is a personal thing so extortion funding would actively harm the population due to incentives.


          • Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

            May I just mention that the legislation being suggested is already running in Scotland. All this means is the you get free personal care, which means that you pay for all the other things but they will wash your face for free. Oh and Master Baiter, the National Health Service is really the Jewel in the Liberal Parties Crown, it has been systematically ruined by both the Labour and funnily enough less by the Tories in the years since it was conceived.
            I now I am grateful for it in so many ways, and to all those that knock it, you’ll be sorry!!!


          • Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

            Sorry I meant know instead of now.


          • BillyBob poops on ZaNuLab says:

            MB = thrush ….. so perhaps you can get that sorted on the NHS you irritating bunt !!


  17. 27
    Reg511 says:

    Lord Manhandleson on the Queens speech on BBC News at 1,

    ‘It is not for the conservative to decide, it is for the public’

    Gets CMD off the hook


    • 117
      I'm (A) Free(man) says:

      I noticed that mince was on the HoC/HoL canteen menu today.

      Did anyone else see the looks on Warts’ and Mangledbum’s faces during the walk today? Miserable gits.


  18. 29
    Anonymous says:

    Cast I Ron guarantees are going to haunt the Tories – they will have to remind everyone about the promise in the Labour Manifesto re referendum in 2005.

    Alky Ada is strangely absent today.


  19. 31
    Sir William Waad says:

    Has anyone else noticed the logical error in that ad on the right of the page?

    “Bet against each other for bigger wins.”

    Let’s take this slowly. If you and I bet agsinst each other and I secure a bigger win…..then you must suffer…..can you guess?…..a bigger loss!


  20. 32
    Sukyspook says:

    Whatever people might think of US Internet radio show host Alex Jones (who? – some will ask), he tells far more truths than ANY of our MP’s/Congresspeople and in case you hadn’t noticed, especially since 911, what happens over there/here today – happens over here/there tomorrow, cos it’s the same agenda innit:

    “Maximum Alert: Establishment Launches Huge Purge Against Alex Jones, Patriot Community” (Nov 17 09)

    “The Anti-Defamation League has launched a vicious new assault on Alex Jones and members of the patriot community in the form of a new report that equates skepticism and distrust of government with “a toxic atmosphere of rage,” which is threatening to boil over in the form of violence.

    The tone of the ADL’s hit piece basically implies that Alex Jones and his ilk are such a threat to the establishment that they should be removed from society, which ironically is exactly how Hitler dealt with his political enemies.

    The true significance of this gargantuan hit piece on Alex Jones and the patriot movement is the fact that the establishment has firmly moved away from ignorance and ridicule and is now directly targeting us for elimination – an effective purge of the undesirables – by implying we want to commit violence and should therfore be neutralized.

    The fact that we have constantly urged unity and discouraged division, while promoting a peaceful message of non-violence, has infuriated the increasingly incensed establishment because as their credibility has collapsed, ours has grown in leaps and bounds – and as a result their agenda is beginning to stall.

    For the first time, the ADL and their cohorts are acknowledging that the grass roots has the power to stop their agenda for world government in its tracks. This represents a massive sea change and proves that we are having an important impact, but it also serves as a warning because it’s glaringly obvious that the establishment is now committed to taking us down, either by means of character assassination, set-up, or worse.”


    rest at:


    • 54
      GR says:

      Isn’t the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) a Jewish pressure group?

      What have they got against that particular blog?


    • 57
      Bill says:

      Guido probably supports the ADL. He probably sends them pizza!


    • 78
      Mr Ned says:

      Alex Jones has woken a lot of people up to the impending implementation of the global fascist dictatorship, for that he is to be commended. However, he is not a fountain of truth and he does post a great deal of disinfo as well.

      Think about it. IF the state of the world, and America was as bad as he postulates, then he would not be allowed to publish or broadcast. So long as he is allowed to continue broadcasting, then the fascists have not completely taken over, yet.

      Also he will not touch the Zionist angle with a bargepole and sees Christianity as uniquely outside of the “globalists control grid” and not, as say, David Icke would postulate, that all global religions, especially the Abrahamic religions, have been co-opted by the conspiracy to utilise Babylonian symbolism and sun-god worship as a way to manifest the religion of Lucifer.

      I listened to a David Icke interview on the Alex Jones show and Jones was utterly incredulous that Icke would even dare suggest that Christianity is as much of a con as any other religion.

      In my opinion, Jones is very entertaining, and has been very accurate with some things, but take his pronouncements with a big pinch of salt and do not get drawn in to the fearmongering.


      • 85
        Mr Ned says:

        I must admit, I am rather perplexed as to why the ADL would target Jones, one of the few “conspiracists” who does NOT support the “Jewish conspiracy” line. He more accurately sees the conspiracy as having some senior members who happen to be notionally Jewish, rather than the whole conspiracy for global control being a plot of the Jews.

        The top families in what is believed to be this conspiracy are publicly Christian and Jew, but in reality they are babylonian sun worshipers, or followers of Lucifer, the morning star, Bringer of light and enlightenment, the bringer of illumination, or the Illuminati.


        • 96
          Adam Weishaupt says:

          Illuminati? That’s me that is.


          • Ignatius Loyala says:

            Adam Weshaupt – sir, I beg to differ in that it was ‘I’, Ignatius Loyola who pre-dated you and ‘took’ the Magi/Moorish info/QBLH and sequestered it via Spain, Ashkenazis, Frankfurt/Judengasse/Bauer/Rome (!) etc etc into certain ‘religions’/schools/BANKS/tax exempt foundations ultimately and the rest is fragmented ‘history’. You sir, are just another ‘front’.

            Agreed on some points Mr Ned – however, as I said – Alex Jones tells more truths than EVER ‘governments’ do. Once Alex puts the info out there – it’s up to each one of us to do with it what we will ie patch the big picture together.


        • 175
          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          Lizards under the bed????????????????


          • George Orwell Jnr says:

            He is ‘far right’ so an enemy of the state.


          • Urban Pope says:

            ”The Abrahamic religions, have been co-opted by the conspiracy to utilise Babylonian symbolism and sun-god worship as a way to manifest the religion of Lucifer.”

            This is the crux of the matter and the truth, the Talmud, Bible, Quran all indoctrinate with the sole and underlining purpose to recreate the tower of babel, so man will be struck down again or perish undertaking a futile task.


  21. 35
    BillyBob poops on ZaNuLab says:

    Not a very good effort Gordo… power since 1997 and this is the best you can do? You and your cronies have been rumbled, even the visually challenged we can see through the verbal diarrhea.

    The wilderness years beckon……… hehehehehe


  22. 39
    gone fuckin mental says:

    What number relaunch is this ?


  23. 43
    Parp! says:

    Does anyone called “Peta” realise that it’s French for “S/he farted”?


  24. 48
    !? says:

    Was Roy Greenslade the Mirror journalist who, back in the seventies, lied about Arthur Scargill getting thousands of pounds in backhanders from Gaddafi?


  25. 49
    Brown the bully boy - some says:

    It is clear when one watches Brown on the TV at the moment,this is a man with a terrible temper.

    I have had reports from inside his Party (from long time Labour supporters in the North East – Durham to be precise),that the tempers he lapses into are the most foul mouthed tirades.He does throw objects,not so much AT people but at the walls or the floor.

    He evidently has an extremely low threshold and there are Ministers who cower before him as he bulldozes anyone who does not fit his view.

    They say that the lowest point was the infamous Normandy beaches visit,when he was booed by veterans.Brown was so upset at this that he could not believe it was true.


    • 61
      headworker says:

      Brown is what psychologists refer to as a ‘malignant narcissist’ aka a narcissistic personality disorder or sociopath.

      He obtains what he wants by a method known as ‘covert aggression’. Eventually more and more people realise what he is up to and challenge him. He then resorts to infantile temper tantrums and rages when he can’t get what he wants.


  26. 53
    13eastie says:

    What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

    This is a debate on the Queen’s Speech.

    Why the fuck is the Prime Minister unable to talk about anything except what he would like us to believe the Tory election manifesto will contain.



    • 66
      Steve Expat says:

      Maybe he thinks that as Cameron spoke first he must be the PM now.

      This is supposed to be about the PM elaborating on what the Queen said – he did write it, after all – the fact that he went on and on about what the Tories may or may not do in a few months’ time shows that he’s shitting himself about what is about to happen.

      Broon is now, to quote Mr Hannan “The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued government”, the election cannot come a single day too soon.


      • 72
        Master Baiter says:

        Dan Hannan currently is wrapped up in duct tape and cannot respond to anything. He is frightened of being deselcted by the high command, also known as the notting hill mob.


        • 81
          Steve Expat says:

          Hannan’s keeping his head down in public after he resigned from the EU front bench – because he disagrees with the leadership on the issue of EU membership.

          Contrast that with the resignations of Blears, Flint and Purnell recently, when they couldn’t wait to tell the world that Broon was a cnut and should resign on the day of the EU elections – where Labour went on to do so abysmally…


          • Mr Ned says:

            You mean when labour was beaten into fourth place BEHIND UKIP!!!


            OH that was a most glorious and happy day when labour officially became a fringe, extremist party.


          • Master Baiter says:

            Dan Hannan is a hypocrite. He is following the Cameo pardee line on Lisbon, isn’t it?

            Further proof of Hannan’s lunacy is his being an arch fan of Iceland and its ‘free market’ (kleptomaniac) ways.

            Hannan’s not saying anything because he doesn’t want to lose the easiest and safest job in the world. He does not have principles just prattles.


          • Steve Expat says:

            MB, Hannan is a man of principle, which is why he has resigned quietly from his cushy front bench job, and is keeping his head down for a bit as he doesn’t want to rock the boat – unlike those Liebour ministers who regigned in a blaze of glory hoping the party would go for their own leader.


          • Master Baiter says:

            Dan Hannan has been told to shut up and is obeying orders because ahead of all else he wants to keep the easiest and safest job in the world.
            Dan Hannan is a prize spineless joke.


          • I am Sick says:

            “Dan Hannan is a prize spineless joke.”

            LOL, you really do not have a clue do you? You will see AFTER the coming election just what a prize know nothing imbecile, you are.


        • 98
          13eastie (169 days: Goodbye Gordon!) says:

          Notting Hill Mob!

          How very drôle! Did you come up with that on your own, Charles?

          Dastardly and Muttley, anyone?


      • 79
        13eastie (169 days: Goodbye Gordon!) says:

        I hadn’t yet thought of that eventuality.

        Labour (if it still exists) will surely ditch Brown after the election, but it will be so slow to do so, and McDoom’s pig-headedness is such, that we will be treated to Brown as LOTO at PMQ’s:

        1) Chippy, ill-disposed, gurning refusal to congratulate Cameron
        2) Immediate blaming of record unemployment on Osbourne / Thatcher
        etcetera ad nauseam…

        Here’s to waiting!


      • 195
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        …of a devalued country.


    • 80
      When is a word NOT a word? When Brown pronounces it. says:

      It was actually quite interesting to watch it as a PMQ’s type of session once the c*unt Brown is booted in to oblivion and Cameron is in office.

      And I must say that Brown’s thugs – AKA the Cabinet of totally f’ing no talents – actually looked like they will look come the first day they ARE in Opposition – morose,surly and depressed.

      Can’t wait for the Friday after the night before,sometime in May (I personally think it will be February).


      • 88
        Steve Expat says:

        There will be (possibly more than) a few of them missing once they are in Opposition. Those remaining might just be glad to be back!

        Would prefer December myself, but February is better than May.


      • 91
        Mr Ned says:

        I do not mind when it happens TBH, just so long as it is the one week when labour are at their most hated of the next 6 months.

        I want to see them utterly and completely annihilated, crushed, wiped out!


    • 116
      Watching the politicos says:

      Brown did make for him an “amusing” sally when he was referring to Emily Thornberry’s trip to the Artic and her sled ride with huskies stating that he couldn’t confirm that they were the same pack that ran into David Cameron and a party of passing photographers.

      As regards the “Queens Speech” it is just a taster of the Labour Manifesto for the 2010 election – very little of it should be taken seriously as very little of the proposals will ever appear on the statute book. Labour know it;the Conservatives know it;the majority of the Commons knows it and so do the media. We are now entering the “Phoney War” period before the election. Nobody is serious about this legislative programme not even the government’s business managers. We will have 6 months of totally pointless action when what’s really needed is for a General Election to be called so that a new government can start tackling the enormous economic problems and the deficit and not, as Labour is doing, engage in purely party political stunts under the guise of “The Queens Speech”


  27. 58
    Cheerio says:

    This reveals the current pisspoor state of journalism more than anything else.


  28. 59
    Wazza says:

    Guido . Get on this 1 please. Gordo fibbing again.

    “I actually said: ‘No more Tory boom and bust’.”

    “So our approach is to reject the old vicious circle of the…the old boom and bust.”
    Pre-Budget Report, 8 November 2000

    “Mr Deputy Speaker we will not return to boom and bust.”
    Budget Statement, 7 March 2001

    “As I have said before Mr Deputy Speaker: No return to boom and bust.”
    Budget Statement, 22 March 2006

    “And we will never return to the old boom and bust.”
    Budget Statement, 21 March 2007


  29. 62
    Mrs Valerie Parnham says:

    Fight fight where ever you may be, we are the Labour women from the West Country


  30. 63
    Anonymous says:

    I did like Cameron mentioning the Rt Hon etc (Balls) “chuntering on” during the two addresses and the camera then cut to Balls – who was chuntering away at Cameron like a loon – does the oik not realise we can’t hear what he’s saying – just see him – well – chuntering.


  31. 64
    Fubar_Saunders says:

    The Queen is a Labour stooge. A cynical plant by Labour, to support their plight.

    She pretends to be a monarch. She’s actually on the Labour pay roll, being paid to post on BBC boards


  32. 65
    Master Baiter says:

    PCC (Press Complaints Commission) is not a regulator.
    Never has been, never will be.


    • 120
      Random facts says:

      Gordon Brown is not a suitable Prime Minister, never was never will be

      Labour party not a suitable government, never was never will be


    • 136
      That's a fact says:

      Master Baiter is not a properly functioning human being.
      Never has been. Never will be.


  33. 68
    X-Fuctor says:

    Well at least I now know who Baroness Bust-Cum is. Which I have to say I didn’t know before, so well done her for getting her name in the news.
    I have decided that I am going to regulate MPs expenses. I hope it makes me as famous as Lady Bust-Cum
    (By the way does anyone know whether this is the same as a soapy tit-wank?)


  34. 74
    English Liberation Front says:


    The New Labour code was here:-

    “as there is already pressure to increase regulation of the internet”

    Most of their infringing regulation and legislation has been based on an exaggerated risk and an over-stated case of what “people want” them to do. The subsequent “consultation” largely involves those paragons of democracy ACPO and the vested interests self-lobbying quangos and fake charities which New Labour use to get their own way. All these people want increased state powers to intrude and interfere, to control everything we do and to ban the things they don’t like. It has been a consistent theme of the last 12 years.

    The “voluntary” stuff will be like ID cards – a gradually tightening noose where those who don’t sign up “voluntarily” will find themselves unable to operate or obtain services.


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    caesars wife says:

    I rather enjoyed Frank dobsons speech as well , it was a bit of roll call of left icons many of which were berthed in different era , but its a while since i heard some good oratory , Emily Thornberry seemed to be the ghost of emily pankhurst but again it was left. Cameron did a good job “leavin on jet plane at at green conference ” but best bit was “never have so many stoats died for so many goats” CW was in tears at that one . and lord Digby Jones “when they run out of spending other peoples money” however what was rather devasting was the ruins non connect with camerons kelly report challenge , he kept muttering to harriet , which given he said the indepndent reports recommendations would be followed is curious ignorant even.
    The ruin was wrong i think on his 1997 employment figures but it was interesting how he framed some things to fit that it was going to be about policy , eric pickles sky news attack on fiscal management isnt it what goverments are supposed to do was usefull .

    i though Bill cashes question nearly got going , but then again i think ruin is treacherous not only to his country but his voters as europe has at best been sneaky and devious .

    As for ruins roll call i couldnt help but feel that he was to hoisted by his petard . nick clegg did a jaunty little speech , although i thought members should have at least have the coutesy to hear him even though it was long session of long speeches, labour front bench zoomed off .

    bit of day for anoraks and CW laments that how jedward are doing will take up more peoples interests rather than what our once great primary legislature is up to


  37. 95
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    When our glorious Prime Minister had finished responding to David Cameron, and at that very moment Nick Clegg stood up to make his address, the Great Gorgon indicated that he’d finished with his backbencher “plants” who took, en masse, the opportunity to escape the scrunity of his remaiming evil eye.


    • 103
      Watching the politicos says:

      There seems to be an “unwritten custom” that whenever Clegg stands up that the Chamber empties – apart from when he’s asking his 2 alloted questions at PMQs They have to listen to him at PMQs because Brown has to stay until the end but there seems to be a strategy afoot to show everyone watching that Clegg and the LibDems are political non-entities totally inconsequential Watch next time Clegg or any LibDem responds to a government statement.


      • 113
        Anonymous says:

        Bercow was complicit in that exodus by drawing attention to members leaving the House – I thought it a tad obvious too.


        • 128
          Watching the politicos says:

          He did also tell off Andrew Robatham, MP for Blaby and Conservative Deputy Chief Whip. I can’t remember the exact wording but it was roughly.

          “I must remind the honourable member for Blaby that as Shadow Deputy Chief Whip and a member of this House for 17 years that he should know a lot better how to behave and be setting an example for other members!”

          That’s Bercow off the Conservatives HQ Christmas Card list then


          • caesars wife says:

            mr speaker let it be know he had chosen not to wear the traditional stocking and supender under his gown and opted for a modern lounge suite and camisole top and knicker set underneath


          • Watching the politicos says:

            “……….modern lounge suite…………”

            A nice chintzy pattern no doubt complete with matching anti-mocassas ?


  38. 99
    TJ says:

    Another bad day for Gordon Brown who now appears to have completely lost touch with reality.


    • 127
      CHIPPY says:

      Anyone from whatever political spectrum they come from.After seeing Browns performance today.Cannot seriously think Brown can be the one to sort this country out.He is nothing more than a number cruncher even then he gets them wrong.


    • 131
      Watching the politicos says:

      He also had the wierd grin again during Cameron’s speech especially when Cameron was basically mocking him for his record. The TV Cameras are doing a lot more cutaway shots during speeches now to guage reaction. Someone should really tell Brown that when we said smile it’s best not to do that sort of grin particularly when the leader of the opposition is kicking you in the nuts(metaphorically speaking)


    • 151
      Reality says:

      Gordon…you never call me any more! What did I do? What did I say?


  39. 104
    best placed for bankruptcy says:

    gordons speech+15 new bills……….

    only he forgot to mention the massive bill for 12 years of effing up the economy!!!!!!

    anyone care to take a guess at how much money has been pissed away?

    money for india? china? anyone else?
    forms in every language?
    govt. offices?
    ‘fact-finding’ foreign holidays(sorry,trips)
    keeping people off the dole figures?

    2 wars?
    helicopters that dont work?

    just how may trillions of pounds have they wasted?


    • 165
      Steve Expat says:

      You forgot:

      ID cards
      All the non-jobs in the public sector (1 million of them since 1997)
      All the council snooping on people putting their bins out on the wrong day, or trying to get their kids into the only good school in the area…

      12 years of borrowing during the good times, so that when we come across the bad times there is no cash in the attic.

      Election can’t be soon enough now…


  40. 105
    JKL says:

    Just seen this on :

    490.Hate to lower the tone of elevated political discussion…but the following piece of unattributed gossip just got posted on popbitch (a gossip website just like this, but full of sniping, bitchiness and backbiting…so actually just like this)
    Gossip goes
    “spent a couple of hours with a senior ‘protection officer’ last night and he’s just come off Gordon Brown watch. Apparently our man ‘never speaks to staff, so he isn’t rude so much as entirely non-communicative’ and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…”


    • 109
      beardie beardie beard says:

      “…….he (Brown) and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other…..”



      • 199
        Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

        There was always a rumour of it having spoken to people who actually live in his constituency, probably not the people who elected him.


    • 114
      Sir William Waad says:

      He sounds like the kind of bloke the police like to fit up when there’s a high-profile unsolved murder in the neighbourhood. “He kept himself to himself” said neighbour Margaret Darling, 53, “He was a bit of a loner, really, but sometimes my husband had to go round and complain when things crashed against our wall during the night.”


    • 124
      Ted says:

      “he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other.”

      Sounds like a bit of a sham marriage to me. Was it just arranged to help Gordon take over as PM?


      • 133
        Sarah Brown's Dildo says:



      • 138
        Edmundo Ross and his Orchestra says:

        Perhaps Sarah should be a contestant on the next “Strictly Come Dancing” series. A quick “American Smooth” followed by a”Foxtrot” could do wonders for her outlook.


      • 142

        It’s not like his holidays in “bohemian” Cape Cod were organised by Mandy.


        • 153
          Master Baiter says:

          Aunty Zit, the feverish excitement about Cape Cod is bizarre.

          Cape Cod is famous primarily as it is the summer stomping ground of the US liberal political elite.
          Gordon Brown is devoted to politics.
          Ever heard of the Kennedys?
          Even the Bush family summer not many miles further north at Kennebunkport.


          • That’s not where he went though.


          • Sir William Waad says:

            ‘Not many miles north’ of Cape Cod puts you in the Atlantic Ocean. Kennebunkport is a LONG way north of Cape Cod.


          • Master Baiter says:

            Kennebunkport to East Dennis is 163 miles and 2 hours 44 minutes by car. In America that is not many miles, nor is it a long drive, honestly.

            In any event the north east coast in summer is where the US establishment go, isn’t it. It’s where the Ivy League Universities and the Prep schools are, it is establishment America, isn’t it?


          • I somehow doubt Gordon was there in pursuit of Bush, MB.


          • Sam says:

            Brown went to Cape Cod for his holidays regularly because it’s the gay holiday capital of America and he likes hanging out with the boys.


      • 168

        He is a waste of space, whereas she’s merely the Baster space.


      • 183
        barefootcontessa says:

        Don’t be mad! What woman would want to touch him with a barge pole!


      • 196
        Ignatius Loyala says:

        I wonder which part of the house they keep the turkey baster in…..sick, I know – but didn’t YOU hear the rumours at the time that in order to be PM he had to become credible by becoming a ‘family man’ first by getting ‘married’????


    • 170
      Anonymous says:

      “…..and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…””

      Little wonder he’s her hero if he keeps the fuck out of the way.


  41. 119
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    A Bill to Cut the Deficit? Sounds awfully like a government on the way out. Can I recommend Pickfords!


  42. 126
    Right Bastard says:

    When Zanulab get obliterated at the next GE, will McSnot sit on the opposition benches and carry on his socialist crusade or will he slink off to the nearest hole?


    • 149
      streamfisher says:

      Brown has already stated that he would like to do social/charity work cos that’s the sort of good guy he is, and my god hasn’t he got an (one) eye for a growth industry after 12 years of…………………………………………………………………….you know who.


    • 156
      Preston Panns says:

      Stupid Boy ! There is absolutely no way that Brown will be prepared to sit on the front bench as Leader of the Opposition and in keeping with his “socialist” credentials he will not of course accept the normal peerage offered to ex-PMs although he may not be averse to accepting “The Order of the Thistle” – a purely Scottish award you understand for the Sons of Alba


  43. 130

    In other words, she is making it clear that she does not want to regulate bloggers after all unless they sign up for it.

    Oh Guido…

    My point was that, as there is already pressure to increase regulation of the internet, it is important to make clear that this must not lead to some form of statutory interference. Rather, a system of self-regulation (such as exists by the PCC for newspapers) would be more appropriate, if any bloggers wished to go down that route. [my italics] I say ‘wish’, because any advance in this area would have to be consensual.

    Put your tinfoil hat on for a moment – “would be more appropriate, if any bloggers wished to go down that route” Any. Would be more appropriate for *those* bloggers if they chose to go down that route, or would be more appropriate for *bloggers* if “any” went down that route?

    Try this analogy – the govt is convinced that ID cards will be voluntary. And they will be, in their world, becuase if you don’t want a passport, you don’t ened to register… See what I mean? So let’s say that blog regulation is *entirely* voluntary. You do not need to sign up to any code of practice, at all.

    But if you don’t, you won’t be permitted to deliver content within the UK digital wall… your IP will go on the home office blacklist, along with paedo sites, pirate bay, other enemies of the state….

    You’re far too sanguine about this. Do you remember when we were both young, a government being mental enough to legislate against repetative beats? Governments do stupid, vindictive, irrational things. it’s in their nature


  44. 132
    Second the Motion says:

    The best part of Brown ran down the crack of his mother’s ass and ended up a stain on the bedsheet.


  45. 134
    Madeyeshannan says:

    Oh do fuck off you patronising tossers.


  46. 166

    O/T but…

    Wonderfully fouled up headline in The Times:

    before it goes…


  47. 167
    Agent 99 says:

    “only volunteers will be regulated: PCC chairman Peta Buscombe has said she does not want to regulate bloggers after all unless they sign up for it”

    Are they not saying as good as the same thing about the introduction and use of National Identity cards?


  48. 179
    Lizzie says:

    All this fuss for nothing. Seems to me that people in Britain are suffering from “Brown Burnout”. This Labour goernment are control freaks, over 500 new laws passed under Labour in just twelve short years, all designed to cramp your style, so paranoia is understandable.
    Love the way little grey Guido runs across the screen carrying his little red letter, ah, so sweet!


  49. 192
    Vote Vote Vote for Jacqui. says:

    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    TaT,TaT,can you believe it. I have just noted that on SKY channel 306
    SKY Drama there is a two hour film “Thick as Thieves”at 8pm.
    Are you in it? Are you demonstrating the art of Skull Crushing?
    Will I see your face? Are you a man ,a woman,or something else maybe?
    TaT,I have discovered this expose,can I stop being a wanker now?
    Am I accepted by you for upping my game?
    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    Thank you TaT for helping me from the gutter.
    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    I must not double space.
    Can I have the second lesson now.


    • 244
      thick as thieves says:

      dear fan,
      here is your second lesson:
      -thick as thieves skull crushing course for beginners-
      lesson 2) pay your fucking fee.
      lesson 3 will commence as soon as you have completed lesson 2.
      oh yeah, the great thick as thieves skull crushing course retails at £99.99.
      if you paypal me the dollars then I will send you everything I know about skull crushing and trolls and all that shit, whatever you want. the whole package comes in one readily available and easily readable email format which will be immediately transmitted to you upon receipt of your payment.


  50. 198
    Anonymous says:

    something for Theresa May to ponder

    (anyone ever clicked on those lose lbs from your stomach ads? dying to know what ancient secret is)


  51. 202
    Shoot them all says:

    The queen is a right old trout, why not grow a spine and say look dickheads clean up your act or i’ll dissolve you.

    We are now one of the most corrupt countries in the world a report said.


  52. 206
    A question for the ladies says:


    Can you use hair removal cream on the same area twice in the same day or will you get chemical burns?


  53. 207
    Dave "Cast Iron Guarantee" Cameron says:

    I humbly apologise to all my supporters for fucking up big time at the debate after the Queens Speech today.

    I will never hear the end of “cast iron guarantee”

    Think I’ll get stoned tonight


  54. 208
    Middle age is no fun says:

    Does anyone else feel like a dinosaur blundering slowly through the minefields of changing cultural norms?

    What kind of country are we living in, how did it change so much in a decade.


  55. 209
    Down with Brown! says:

    Ed Balls on Channel 4 doing what he does best, talking shite.

    Labour really have scraped the bottom of the barrel with this Queen’s speech of half-baked ideas. The sooner we get them out of government for good the better.


  56. 213
    Smile_its_nearly Friday says:

    The PCC would be too PC regulating blogs accessed by PCs.


  57. 229
    Gayboy Brown says:

    I hate my wife, I hate my life.


  58. 232
    Mr C H4RDW3DG3 says:

    There is no single road to happiness, not even for the same person.


  59. 233
    Mr C H4RDW3DG3 says:

    We are living in a buyers market at the moment thanks to the steadfast and genius work of Mr Brown.

    The middle classes are doing very well thanks to Labour.

    Now stop complaining grasshopper


  60. 236
    The Queen says:

    Does anyone give a fuck about blogging and bloggers?

    OK, if they could galvanise people to march on Westminster great. But no, bloggers are geeks with a gob bigger than Yvette the Pixie.

    Go to sleep you Maladroit Tossers and get a life.

    There are animals dying out there that are older, have survived longer and deserve preserving more than any blogger!!!

    Get afukin life!!


  61. 240
    Smiley-In-Your-Stout says:

    No more boost and bum.


  62. 242
    gaybrownwatch says:

    You can’t fool all of the people all of the time:

    “Spent a couple of hours with
    a senior ‘protection officer’ last night and he’s just come off Gordon Brown watch. Apparently our man ‘never speaks to staff, so he isn’t rude so much as entirely non-communicative’ and he and Sarah sleep in different rooms in different parts of the house and barely speak to each other. More as it breakzzzz…”

    “I believe that major Hollywood stars also access the stuntwife directory. So that’s two lines of work open to you.”


  63. 245
    mutley says:

    I have signed up for it!!


  64. 246

    Sometimes a little pre-emptive outrage is justifiable. Wouldn’t be the first time an idea has been trailed and then denied.


  65. 247
    Anonymous says:

    Fabian Solutions says:
    November 18, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    If you want you see whats instore for Britan if the poison fucker gets in again google this

    Christopher Newsom / Channon Christian murders.

    i bet you never heard about that one, thanks to the poison bastard these acts will never get reported here and the reason is that the victims were white, when the victim is black we never hear the fucking end of it.


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