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		<title>By: RSS For Gadgets &#187; Political bloggers hail review of lobby briefing system</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-350610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RSS For Gadgets &#187; Political bloggers hail review of lobby briefing system]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Fawkes, the author of the UK&#8217;s most popular political blog, was quick to crow &#8220;Guido killed the lobby star&#8221; – a reference to his long-running attacks on the cosy relationship between Downing Street [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fawkes, the author of the UK&#8217;s most popular political blog, was quick to crow &#8220;Guido killed the lobby star&#8221; – a reference to his long-running attacks on the cosy relationship between Downing Street [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tapestry</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tapestry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mandelson still thinks we&#039;re in 2003 when the Media Class signed us into the Iraq War, all opposition was crushed in totalitarian style while major Blair-lies were disseminated.  

He wants to lie to us all over again and bypass Parliament and any other democratic system with his twice weekly spin-show.

We still for some reason trusted government spokesmen in 2003, but these days, his proposed TV broadcasts would be met with universal cynicism.

They&#039;ve burned all the trust out of the system.  The only way back is Cameron&#039;s rebuilding of institutions, combined with the media neutralised as the only source of political power. 

The Blair, mandelson, Campbell enthusiasm for totalitarian techniques is past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandelson still thinks we&#8217;re in 2003 when the Media Class signed us into the Iraq War, all opposition was crushed in totalitarian style while major Blair-lies were disseminated.  </p>
<p>He wants to lie to us all over again and bypass Parliament and any other democratic system with his twice weekly spin-show.</p>
<p>We still for some reason trusted government spokesmen in 2003, but these days, his proposed TV broadcasts would be met with universal cynicism.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve burned all the trust out of the system.  The only way back is Cameron&#8217;s rebuilding of institutions, combined with the media neutralised as the only source of political power. </p>
<p>The Blair, mandelson, Campbell enthusiasm for totalitarian techniques is past.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown's a Tosser</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brown's a Tosser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WSH: Oh you are awful, but I like you not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WSH: Oh you are awful, but I like you not.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown's a Tosser</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brown's a Tosser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have taken redaction to a new level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have taken redaction to a new level.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Granddad</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Great Granddad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny thing that. This is what happened to the banks. From the late seventies two degrees was the requirement. Didn&#039;t matter what they were, the only object was to capture future management from the top percentile of the population. Ended up with people like Fred the Shredding Machine, an accountant by trade, who knew less about banking than real bankers knew about quantum physics, running the banks.  Not all of them were honest by a long way, and none of them had the training that they should have got by the time they were eighteen. Add to that the fact that they all had their focus on bonuses and the result is the system collapse that is laughingly called a recession. Meanwhile, we have King et al, the same people who got us into this mess, describing the shape and timing of the economy&#039;s coming upward curve. 

As upward curves don&#039;t occur after a system collapse, I advise my blogging friends not to hold their breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing that. This is what happened to the banks. From the late seventies two degrees was the requirement. Didn&#8217;t matter what they were, the only object was to capture future management from the top percentile of the population. Ended up with people like Fred the Shredding Machine, an accountant by trade, who knew less about banking than real bankers knew about quantum physics, running the banks.  Not all of them were honest by a long way, and none of them had the training that they should have got by the time they were eighteen. Add to that the fact that they all had their focus on bonuses and the result is the system collapse that is laughingly called a recession. Meanwhile, we have King et al, the same people who got us into this mess, describing the shape and timing of the economy&#8217;s coming upward curve. </p>
<p>As upward curves don&#8217;t occur after a system collapse, I advise my blogging friends not to hold their breath.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Fred</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too good for them, well too quick and not painful enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too good for them, well too quick and not painful enough.</p>
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		<title>By: UK Fred</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you mean Talking Horse Spheroids of Mangledbum?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean Talking Horse Spheroids of Mangledbum?</p>
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		<title>By: UK Fred</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anon @10:35, why not insist that the MPs pay for the priviledge of sitting on the Green Benches, say £10,000 a year?  

And as part of their job, they should have to spend at least a week in a public facing role in every &quot;service&quot; in the public sector, so a week at an Inland Revenue Customer Enquiry Centre (Tax Office) dealing with real members of the public to see how badly they&#039;ve screwed up the tax system, a week dealing with claimants, preferably druggies, in a Social Security Office, a week on nights, starting on a Friday night as a receptionist at a hospital accident and emergency unit, a week going to see farmers to dish out and explain their subsidy payments under the EU common agricultural policy, and a charge of, say £1000 for every time they make a mistake.  If we hit them in the pocket then they might get the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon @10:35, why not insist that the MPs pay for the priviledge of sitting on the Green Benches, say £10,000 a year?  </p>
<p>And as part of their job, they should have to spend at least a week in a public facing role in every &#8220;service&#8221; in the public sector, so a week at an Inland Revenue Customer Enquiry Centre (Tax Office) dealing with real members of the public to see how badly they&#8217;ve screwed up the tax system, a week dealing with claimants, preferably druggies, in a Social Security Office, a week on nights, starting on a Friday night as a receptionist at a hospital accident and emergency unit, a week going to see farmers to dish out and explain their subsidy payments under the EU common agricultural policy, and a charge of, say £1000 for every time they make a mistake.  If we hit them in the pocket then they might get the message.</p>
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		<title>By: Beautiful Day</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beautiful Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday in the HoC Milliband, Ed, announced the sites for new nuclear power stations, saying Dungeness had been left out due to concers over rising sea levels and the proximity of a nature reserve. This didn&#039;t go down too well with the locals, who were having a good say on regional TV last night complaining ther were few jobs apart from nuclear power, smuggling and sheep rustling. This obviously got reported back to Brown who was in Kent today, and when asked about it said this was just the first round and he hoped to see a new site at Dungeness in future rounds.

SSSHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTT - the curse of McDoom has been visited on a nuclear power station, time to emigrate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday in the HoC Milliband, Ed, announced the sites for new nuclear power stations, saying Dungeness had been left out due to concers over rising sea levels and the proximity of a nature reserve. This didn&#8217;t go down too well with the locals, who were having a good say on regional TV last night complaining ther were few jobs apart from nuclear power, smuggling and sheep rustling. This obviously got reported back to Brown who was in Kent today, and when asked about it said this was just the first round and he hoped to see a new site at Dungeness in future rounds.</p>
<p>SSSHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTT &#8211; the curse of McDoom has been visited on a nuclear power station, time to emigrate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/11/12/guido-killed-the-lobby-star/#comment-341158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teachers( who have never left school ) are adults amongst children and children amongst adults. Many of them have a fucking unreal sense of entitlement .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers( who have never left school ) are adults amongst children and children amongst adults. Many of them have a fucking unreal sense of entitlement .</p>
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