Listen to Mrs Janes Berate Gordon Brown
Here.
‘Mr Brown, listen to me… I know every injury that my child sustained. My son could have survived but he bled to death’
“How would you like it if one of your children, God forbid, went to a war – helping protect his Queen and country – and because of lack, LACK of helicopters, lack of equipment your child bled to death? “And then you had the coroner have to tell you his every injury?”
Do you understand Mr Brown? Lack of equipment.
The PM replied: “I do understand but I think you have got to also understand that I feel very strongly about this as, as you do.”
….
JJ: Right, can I now just say how I feel?
GB: Yes please.
JJ: Many many years ago, in 18-something, somebody said the biggest enemy of our Army was our Treasury… they were so right.
GB: I, I…
JJ: Even to this day..
GB: I, I…
JJ: Mr Brown, to this day, I know as fact helping my sons buy equipment themselves before they go to war, I know of every mother, the letters I have received off mothers whose sons have been killed, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, you know, friends of mine that were killed in Northern Ireland.
I know that our Government are letting our troops down, big time.
GB: But I’m sorry I would not send anybody abroad unless I felt that they were properly equipped and, er, what I’ve told the Army chiefs that we cannot send people abroad unless we can properly equip them.
JJ: But they’re not properly equipped and we both know this.
Full transcript.
I thought it was illegal to record a phone conversation without the person knowing? Bloody stupid of Gordon to phone the woman on the night that the story goes to press, the Sun was obviously hoping that Gordon would phone her.
GOTCHA
Since I’m sure Cheltenham records all Brown’s phonecalls anyway you can be sure that Brown was well aware the call was being recorded. Only he didn’t realise ‘The Sun’ was recording too.
It’s easy to record all your phone calls automatically onto your hard drive, devices are available to purchase for under £20 that connect via USB to your PC and extension cable to a phone socket; I’ve been using one for years.
The results can be hilarious and financially benefial at the same time: I recall a half hour conversation with the RAC when they refused to accept I had renewed my breakdown cover, but was able to locate the recording of the call when I had paid over the phone with my debit card and play the call back to them, dumb silence followed by a retraction of their position ensued. Everyone should have one of these things, if only for the joy of being able to tell that argumentative little sod at a call centre that they are not the only party recording the call.
The device I have also interfaces to Skype and allows me to use my home phone line from anywhere in the world via PC to make calls in the UK at the same rate as if dialling the number on my own home phone.
Can’t imagine the one-eyed son of the manse getting on the blower to me, but if he did it could be uploaded in seconds.
BIG WOBBLING TITTIES AND BINGO FOR ALL!!!!!!!!
CAN WE HAVE A STREET PART WHEN BROWN DIES ??
The last street party we have was for the Queens 25th Jubilee. It was fkin great, a time when things were good.
Now lets party when this useless kunt finally keels over and dies a painful death, or when someone gets close enuff to smack the ugly phucker.
Just went to the number 10 website to send an e-mail to those bastards to ask for a street party when that koont dies.
However they have stopped all e-mails since Aug 2008 !!! FFS! and they say they will have service back as soon as possible … see here
Tuesday 12 August 2008
Email Number 10
We have decided at this time that it is important to take another look at the E-mail Number 10 service to ensure that it meets the same high standards as the other content and communication measures that the website delivers.
Unfortunately, this means that we will be unable to replace the service as quickly as we had hoped, but we aim to have it up and running as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Thanks for the transcript link Guido, I couldn’t listen to the conversation, this line is a classic.
GB: I’m sorry, Miss Janes, we have tried to give the troops the equipment they need and I have tried my best…
JJ: And failed…
She has him on the ropes, if this was a fight, the ref would have stepped in by now.
I got the impression from listening to the conversation that the Prime Mentalist was still in politician speaking mode and not in speaking sympathetically mode. If he can’t get out of quoting tractor, sorry helicopter numbers rather than actually just apologising for making a mistake then he obviously doesn’t have a caring bone in his body about the troops, shown by the fact that if he did care he would have done more to equip them regardless of cost.
The Sun could have handled this better.
They could have kept up the pressure on Brown about his inept sympathy letter without mentioning they’d recorded the conversation. At some point Brown would be bound to claim that he’d spoken with Mrs Janes and they’d had a conversation and that she’d accepted his apology and it was now time to move on blah blah at which point they’d be able to trap him in yet another lie.
Brown you are a fucking disgrace.
I actually think that BROWN is more hated than HITLER !
exactly!!
Can we actually confirm this is real? Surely even Brow isn’t dumb enough to actually argue with a woman whose son has died like that? Just unbelievable. Everytime he speaks it reminds me of alan partridge or david brent trying to twist some terrible failure into a resounding success.
Can brown survive this? i mean he actually argues with her!! surely lord mandelslime told him just say sorry, don’t talk back and take the medicine/listen to her – suck it up. Utter hoons who have destroyed our country and are socially inept to boot.
Jgm2, you should be working in politics, you have Machiavellian qualities!
Shame on the Scum in the Sun who are using a woman’s grief for political purposes, have they no decency at all?
Is there nothing they won’t do to score a cheap political point?
Where is the criticism of the Army generals?
Where is the criticism of the MOD desk jockeys?
Where is the criticism of Tricky Dicky and his political agenda.
Main point is being missed by all.
The Army is fighting a war using the NI Tactics handbook.
They got chased out of Basra and now they are in panic mode in the A’stan.
Consequently many more will die not because of any politician but through the chronic lack of leadership and tactical awareness of the leadership on the ground.
We are trying to win a light infantry war using anti terrorist tactics and Cold War armoured infantry formations.
Shambles upon shambles upon shambles.
Why try and think when we can just blame GB?
The libertarian scum have a lot to answer for.
What I can’t understand is how his keepers actually let Brown do this.
No PM has ever sent a personal note of condolence to the family of a soldier killed on duty; probably because they were aware of the political minefield they would be entering if they did. Ergo there was no rational reason for Brown to break precedent.
Assuming he did this out of genuine emotion I guess we can’t criticise his motives (on the other hand, if it was just politics then he deserves all the criticism we can throw at him) but surely someone in his entourage must know that Brown is a politician with absolutely zero people skills. He’s the last person on earth you’d let within a mile of a grieving parent of a dead soldier.
About the only rational explanation I can find is that Mandie put him up to this, telling him it would make the people love him, but knowing the absolute opposite was the case. No effort is too small in the campaign to ensure the Lord High Typist of the Nation gets to lead NuMandieLabour.
None of the who dissent from the points raised by NLJD will address them other than with vitriol.
Pathetic really.
tell us NLJD: what party do you support?
Thats what happens when you think you’re Bertie Big Bollocks and you go in out of your depth. A family who have been providing infantry soldiers for 5 generations wont need to take any instruction from ol’ Gordy…
I hated Hitler like you would not believe.I am a born-again atheist but I prayed for Hitler’s death virtually every night from Sept.39 to May45.
Imagine how I feel. I find now that I hate Eva Braun the wee scots jessie of the Westminster Bunker A THOUSAND times more.
Gordon Brown does not do humility, he has no respect for anyone as proved in front of millions last Sunday at the Cenotaph.
He is an arrogant shite,he has no respect from the Nation, and no one will mourn his passing.
He should hang his head in shame!
Im wondering if Harman is ready to eat her ” we have superman here” words yet?
The stupid c’unt.
HA HA HA.
FUCKING HILARIOUS, A GRIEVING MOTHER BEING USED BY NEWS INTERNATIONAL TO UP SALES AND PUT POLITICAL PRESSURE ON BROWN.
YOU ABSOLUTE TIT.
IT DOESN’T EXCUSE GORDON & CO. NOR THEIR ACTIONS PROVIDE REASON TO MANIPULATE HER.
Question is, who is manipulating whom. I am sure Brown would rather pretened to that he gives a damn about this soldiers life, than talk about the complete pointlessness of the war in Afghanistan.
He is also now in the position whereby the more he hacks off the electorate, the better the chances of re-election. Simply by fragmenting the vote. Things …..can only get better…..
Brown has been manipulating the media by his smear and spin techniques for years. This is just a case of “the biter bit”. I have absolutely no sympathy for the man at all.
Engineer, serious comment (honestly).
It’s not a question of the effect on Brown.
It’s a question of the newpaper, its editor and its journalists exploiting this woman in the middle of her grief and exploiting all the other recently berieved mothers, fathers and other family members of dead service people.
That is morally outrageous. If Brown has behaved similarly in the past it does not excuse this behaviour by the newspaper.
The newspaper is playing politics on the bodies of the dead and their grieving parents, shame on Murdoch.
If the lady was indeed being ‘used’ by News International, I get the impression she was more than happy to go along with it – she has good reason to attack Brown.
the mother approached the newspaper.
oh dear masterbaiter, your bullshit has no traction whatsoever.
tough luck loser.
oh, and stop abusing the mother of a dead soldier to score political points for gordon brown.
you sick fuck. show some respect for our dead soldiers and their families.
you are fucking scum masterbaiter.
new labour scum.
tat, let’s see what the recordings of Mrs Janes’ discussion’s with Noose International turn up shall we? If the recordings exist that is, which nowadays is highly likely, isn’t it?
Isn’t it though!
tat, now a cheerleader for Murdoch and his war mongering Focks Noose channel, how sar cast ironic. Don’t forget the pom poms!
tat, now a Focks Noose clone, hmmmmm……
oh so now you are calling the mother of a dead soldier a liar?
you lowlife scum.
fuck off you nonce.
Master Baiter. Appreciate that you are trying to make a serious point, but I feel that I must beg to differ.
Brown (and others in the Labour party – Bliar was a master of this) has been the most ‘party political’ senior politian I can ever recall. Most politicians, when in government, try to act in the best interests of the country. Callaghan and Healy did in the late 1970’s when the country was in an economic mess, they introduced spending cuts even though it was obvious that it harmed their electoral chances. Major and Clarke did in the late 1990’s, even though electoral bribes may have helped them in the 97 election.
Brown has not – he has always – always – acted for party political advantage, not for the good of the country. He continues to do so, with the economy, with health, with education, with immigration, probably with the EU, even with the Afghanistan crisis.
For that, the man is, for me, utterly beneath contempt. He is by far the worst prime minister of my lifetime, and probably one of the worst Britain has ever had. He thouroughly deserves all the stick he gets, from the Sun or anywhere else.
I don’t believe I have ever typed a post on this blog with quite so much feeling and sheer venom. I utterly destest and despise Brown, and have only total contempt for him.
tat, Mrs Janes has not lied and it isn’t being suggested that she lied. Noose International probably manipulated cajoled and prompted Mrs Janes. If there are recordings of those manipulations, and nowadays there are likely to be, it would be interesting to hear them. After all Noose International has previous form in this area.
Hear, hear Engineer. That’s the galling truth. Everybody has known for at least 18 months that the squandering needs to stop. But Brown is deliberately setting the Tories up for a Tory ‘v’ union scrap to be played out from 2010 onwards just so that Labour can jeer from the sidelines claiming that the spending cuts and tax rises were completely unnecessary.
It would be much appreciated by the entire electorate if a left-wing government could begin the process just to deny the commies at UNITE and the GMB the fig-leaf of it being a Tory ‘v’ unions spat. But they won’t. It’s all fucking politics to the bastards.
This must surely be the end for Brown’s “media manager” Nicola Burdett. We are paying her wages – to insult people like this. It is horrifying.
IF someone other than “New Labour” wins the next election, the solution is simple. All the Whitehall and MOD scumbags, who collect taxation-monies and spend as little as they can get away with on “kit”, delivering it in the longest ppossiblt time after request, can be sent to, let’s say, “Helmand”.
They can have all the kit that they allowed, per “staff member”, but no more. Ten, let the real Squaddies watch from the Stands, while the pennypinchers are put into battle against this “Taliban” fellow, whoever he is. He clearly has lots of French and Russian kit, plus what he’s bought off the Pakistani Army.
Let’s see how many minutes the Pennypinchers survive. WE could send even a bookie to take punts.
The brutal reality of death as put by this poor woman. Brown in no way can empathize with her and bungles his way through this conversation.
How could this man ever each High office….indeed any office except the psychiatrists?
Is it fair on the Country that this man will just walk away after the damage he has inflicted??
Brown is the UK’s Adolf Hitler and the parallels between them are uncanny.
I was blamed for being pointless when I pointed this out on a thread on Saturday.
Yes, just look at the aintworthyofit creature he’s got at defence! Creepy.
ADOLF HITLER?????
YOU UTTER PRAT.
Brown is a bullying despot. Hitler was worse, but it doesn’t make Brown in any way competent or acceptable.
Of course he is wankstain!!Hitler-one ball, Brown, one eye, both mental, both live in a bunker surrounded by yes men, both no idea of reality.
Now fu@k off you village idiot!
DUNCAN why don’t you stop making a CU”NT of yourself?-go away and have your MORNING MASTURABATION SESSION
Herr Braunfuehrer says: ETC ETC
OF COURSE, YES.
HITLER IS BEST KNOWN FOR HIS TESTICULAR SHORTAGE.
I THINK NOT.
USE SOMEONE LIKE HITLER TO ADD STRENGTH TO A VERY WEAK POINT. BUT IT DIDNT WORK.
IT MADE YOU LOOK SILLY.
VERY.
Mr Nice says: ETC ETC
WOW. WHAT A POST.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Lets have an XFACTOR style vote !
Question: “Who’s more popular HILTER or BROWN ?”
Apparantly a similar on-line vote had Hitler at 72%, Brown at 4%, and “Both or em are Kunts at 24%
Gordon displays his Character trait. Even though it is blindingly obvious that he mispelled the lad’s name he till denys it. Gordon finds it impossible to admit that he is wrong.
That Gordon thinks he can phone a grieving mother who blames him for the death of her son and make it alright in just 10 minutes, is quite telling. Surely if Sarah had known what he was up to she would have stopped him.
He should just have accepted that the mother does not like him. nothing he could say would change her mind and left it at that.
Sarah?
Are you joking?
Brown and his government have proposed to introduce the logging of emails and mobile phnone numbers.
He does’t like it when a private converstation of his is recorded, so why should there be faux sympathy for this controlling freak?
Yeah. I’m surprised that Sarah didn’t phone first as the warm up act.
I want to know how much redundancy money Sarah gets in her ’severance’. My estimate would be £10 million. Any other estimates?
Anyone know details of pre-nuptual?
Anyone at Hadaway and Shite, solicitors,Newcastle and Edinburgh willing to blow the whistle?
He’s desperate for votes!
Quite Right! I hope the b’tard gives me a call I’ll tell im straight and no change given GRRRRR
Actually you idiot he denied having made 25 spelling mistakes – read the transcript.
Mr Brown claimed: “…I was trying to say your right name. And I spelt Jamie right as well I understand”.
Mrs Janes responded: “Erm, I beg to differ. I’ve got the letter in front of me so I do beg to differ…
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Gordon-Brown-Denies-Spelling-Mistakes-In-Letter-To-Jacqui-Janes-Mother-Of-Guardsman-Jamie-Janes/Article/200911215447984?lpos=Politics_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15447984_Gordon_Brown_Denies_Spelling_Mistakes_In_Letter_To_Jacqui_Janes%2C_Mother_Of_Guardsman_Jamie_Janes
Mr Brown claimed: “…I was trying to say your right name. And I spelt Jamie right as well I understand”.
Mrs Janes responded: “Erm, I beg to differ. I’ve got the letter in front of me so I do beg to differ…
SPOT ON.
REPEATEDLY THIS IS HIS CRIME AND SHORT COMING.
A SIGN OF A VERY WEAK MAN THAT SUPPORTS THE CHARGES OF BULLYING LEVELLED AGAINST HIM.
You’re perfectly entitled to record a conversation, however if you don’t inform the other party that you are doing so, you may not be able to use it for legal (court) purposes.
Can I record telephone conversations on my home phone?
Yes. The relevant law, RIPA, does not prohibit individuals from recording their own communications provided that the recording is for their own use. Recording or monitoring are only prohibited where some of the contents of the communication – which can be a phone conversation or an e-mail – are made available to a third party, ie someone who was neither the caller or sender nor the intended recipient of the original communication. For further information see the Home Office website where RIPA is posted
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/consumer/advice/faqs/prvfaq3.htm
I’d say that the Sun was a third party and not the intended recipient. Gordon would be a fool to sue Mrs Janes though.
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
Except in the case of our Prime Minister
spot on…
Entertainingly, the link to the Home Office’s website from the Ofcom link you posted is out of action….
There’ll be a Treasury Solicitor along any moment…
The Penguin
Please DO not believe web sites made by this government. They have been altering popular law for ages. The actual laws are quite sensible.
Sites not to trust Ofcom, BBC, ICO, DVLA, MCA.
RIPA:
(6) The circumstances in which a person makes an interception of a communication in the course of its transmission by means of a private telecommunication system are such that his conduct is excluded from criminal liability under subsection (2) if—
(a)he is a person with a right to control the operation or the use of the system; or
(b)he has the express or implied consent of such a person to make the interception.
22 Obtaining and disclosing communications data …
(2) It is necessary on grounds falling within this subsection to obtain communications data if it is necessary—
(a) in the interests of national security;
(g) for the purpose, in an emergency, of preventing death or injury or any damage to a person’s physical or mental health, or of mitigating any injury or damage to a person’s physical or mental health; or
If highlighting the PM’s inability to comprehend his actions is not an emergency what is?
is there anyone else you dont want us to look at or visit. I think the word communist and nazi starts springing to mind here……by the way isnt that what millions died for in the second world war, a choice?
Tommo. Who said “look at or visit”
“not to trust” is the key to freedom. You make up your own mind.
But then I think your mind does not have room for external reality. Learn to read. Then afterwards you might comprehend.
“May” being the operative word. Insurance companies have been adducing covert surveillance footage of try-on merchants in court for years, on the basis that the probative value outweighs any prejudice suffered. Same principle applies to telephone calls…
It’s perfectly addmissable in the Court of Public Opinion.
Dear Mrs Joans
Ah’m truly sorry man’s dominion has broken nature’s social union. Ah’m truly fucken soarry that mah wee letter was completely unintelligible but ah canna see, ah canna see. Ah’m lawked here in the shunky cos ah dinnae trust the fuckaz upstairs and the smallest room is the only one that isnae bugged, ye ken whit ah mean?
Anywa’, I’m truly sorry your son, Tommy, copped it in Afghanistan. Ah feel your pain, Mrs Jenkins. It’s a bad business, so it is.
Eeehhh? The walls! The walls! The fuckaz are coming oot o’ the walls!
Eeehhh, Howay!!!
[Here the manuscript breaks off]
:0)
And it was nae ma fault. It started in America!!
“I thought it was illegal to record a phone conversation without the person knowing?”
Yes, I’m sure it would be a great bit of PR if Brown had the grieving mother prosecuted wouldn’t it?
The useless sod got what he deserved.
Wouldn’t put it past them to have a go at her.
Because it is the right thing to do. For hard-working families.
You missed out for hard working service families…
The timing of the phone call is confirmation, if any more were needed, that Brown has absolutely no manners at all — no calls made later than 9 pm especially on a Sunday — unless it’s an emergency. I expect he let matters stew through the day to see if the story was going to go away, but realized it wasn’t by 10 pm, so he phoned her.
Ah, but he was getting on with the job.
British Phone Calls For British Bereaved!
It’s the Right Thing to do.
The Penguin
Wouldn’t be surprised if McBridlewear has been emailing his old boss with some smears to circulate about Mrs Janes. He’s got form for this sort of caper.
He will wait a few months for it to drop out of the news then go after her or her family – it’s what Labour does.
One could say he has been hoisted by his own petard
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html
Well worth reading.
The Government proposes to keep records of every e mail, every web site visited, every phonecall, every electronic transaction, every message, left by everyone, with widespread access allowed to a large number of people under RIPA.
MPs should note before they pass this legislation that they too will have no where to hide, but in their case, the information will be quietly used to control them completely.
The rise of the national security state. Every local authority jobsworth who fancies himself as 007 will be out there snooping on we who fund their meal tickets. We are all regarded as criminals now. So I suppose they are reading this. In that case….
Go fuck yourselves you useless bunch of chair polishing, tax eating, arrogant, unaccountable parasite clerks and get a proper friggin` job.
Please Yardarm, do not refer to our snivelling servants in such a deferential way. Tell the bastards what you really think! In no uncertain terms.
i expect my records will be shredded though – i can do whatever i want ha ha ha
Er sorry to be a damp squib, but this has been the case since 1997.
The only reason that it is being revealed is that our Oppressors would like us to stop saying naughty things about them.
All phonecalls, fax, e-mails, sms/txt, every keystroke on your competer in fact is
logged.
It is what you call ‘Freedom’, as told by the Ministry of Truth.
Same happens in Canada, Australia, NZ etc
We are not alone!!!
They want us to stop saying nasty things about them?
Fat chance!
Big fat useless waste of atoms the lot of them.
They should all be forwarded to the front line and used to clear mines.
Telegraph:-
State to ’spy’ on every phone call, email and web search
This is something we can fight back at, the government have been told that criminals use Skype to communicate and Skype will not give the encryption code away so it seems a bit pointless collecting the whole country’s data, emails, web searches etc particularly when there is free software to stop it being collected, use Peerblock and also check out the Tor Project.
All my emails go via a US station. They are encrypted at source and decrypted in the US. That includes the headers and destination.
All returns come the same way.
Not that I have anything to hide it is just the system I used when travelling in unsecure countries. Pays for itself as they do compression and spam filtering. Great for phone access.
As with all technology laws, they can only be aimed at the innocent.
“As with all technology laws, they can only be aimed at the innocent.”
Good phrase. They always trot out the, it’s for our benefit, safeguards against criminals and terrorists, when anyone with half a brain knows that there is always a way around it, even if it does require a bit of money thrown at it.
So who does that leave for them to spy on/monitor, Joe Public. Which is why something 99% usage of RIPA powers have nothing to do with terrorists.
Do you trust your browser encryption?
Nothing to do with a browser
anon @1.15 said:
‘Nothing to do with a browser’
Ever heard of Key Escrow? Would you trust Microsoft when it records what you do in hidden Files to assist forensic analysis.
There is a world outside microsoft?
Agreed there’s Linux (open source),
Part of a wider initiative : Have a look at what’s related to PROJECT INDECT
Scary
Better hoisted up a lampost(cast Iron) and piano wire!
The Sun’s political editor has just told BBC news that they had nothing to do with the recording. Gordon phoned MRs Janes on Sunday night after the paper had gone to press. Mrs Janes had friends in her house and was so suprised to hear Gordon that she put the converatuion onto speakerphone and one of her friends recorded it on a PDA.
Next Day Peter Mandelson et al started spinning the converation in Gordon’s favour. This upset Mrs Janes and she decided right I will put my version of this phone call into the public domain.
In that case, it’s not a recording of a phone call but just a recording of the room at the time.
Just like on ‘watchdog’ when they show adverts they always show a recording of a tv showing the advert.
Makes sense as if it was proper recording equipment then you’d hear him better.
Mrs Janes has colluded with The Sun for a variety of reasons.She is wrong to use the death of her son in such a vindictive manner .The Sun is JUST WRONG in its callous attempt to boost readership through the pain of a mother.Gordon Brown displayed the right sentiments but should have written a neater and more correct version of the letter.The phone call was an attempt to rectify the situation but he was fooled into a trap in the Janes household.The whole thing makes me sick as no one can win.Brown is actually getting masses of sympathy over this issue as displayed on the Radio 5 phone in this morning. The Sun and Murdoch are at fault and their exploitation knows no bounds.
PM getting masses of sympathy?
Are you joking?
If you regard Mrs Janes as vindictive then what how on earth do you describe this Prime Minister and the nastiest Adminstration to govern this country?
What a joke Thatcher was the nastiest by a long way . This lot are amateurs in the nasty stakes.More people died in the Falklands and what about the poor miners and the desimated communities.
Brown is actually getting masses of sympathy over this issue as displayed on the Radio 5 phone in this morning
What gives it a away is the one word and number ‘Radio 5′
Nuff said
Mandy has spun this one well. Charlie Whelan FFS has been on the Beeb defending the PM against these slurs. Is he in the clear on Dorriesgate yet?
I regard the Thick Of It as the greatest TV programme of all time.
But, very seriously, Ianucci and co could not have come up with this in their wildest dreams. It’s utterly beyond comprehension.
And Mandy spining it without checking…incredible.
Still, there are thousands out there who have wanted to say this to New Labour and give it both barrels over its canon fodder attitude to the services.
What a joy to see somebody at the bottom of the pile get access to the clown at the top and smash him in a million pieces.
You’d almost believe in divine intervention…
Bit like last Saturday’s edition where they tried to use the bereaved widow for their political ends but ended up with a crock of shite.
No, that’s not the case.
I mean it is not the case that it is illegal to record phone calls, or so I believe.
My understanding was that is is perfectly legal to record any conversation in which you are a party, whether the conversation is on the telephone/computer, or in person.
I was once at a complaints tribunal (though about ten years ago) supporting a friend. I brought a mini-disc player and recorded the entire thing. The other side brought a stenographer who made about 2 million errors in a hour or so, comically bad! I used my recording to raise points of order and inaccuracies in transcription, and was told that my evidence was not acceptable because I had ’secretly’ recorded it. When I referred it back to their solicitor, he had to tell them that what I did was perfectly legal.
AFAIK that is still the case, but I would like to know if it isn’t because I’m about to start recording all my calls with my local authority.
Anyone out there know for sure?
More on topic, I often wonder how the Afghan ‘war’ would be conducted if mums were allowed to formulate military strategy.
I think it would all be over in about a month.
RIPA: Read it:
http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/legResults.aspx?LegType=All+Legislation&Year=2000&number=23&searchEnacted=0&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&TYPE=QS&NavFrom=0&activeTextDocId=1757378&PageNumber=1&SortAlpha=0
Look at quotes above.
Record everything. The key to a successful life is to keep your mouth shut and camera going.
Thanks, you’re right.
This wasn’t some trap to snare Brown. The woman didn’t know he was going to phone her. When he phoned her out of the blue late at night she soon realised he was going to try to wheedle his way out of any responsibility or try to intimidate her so she just switched on her answer-phone machine to record it as proof of what an odious piece of shit he is.
Good on her and to her late son’s memory. We should commend this woman given her loss and grief she has my untold admiration. I wish her and her family well. Her son like so many others are true heroes.
Mrs Janes came across as angry and out for revenge ,not a pretty sight.
Out for revenge?
well I guess the Lady has earnt that at least given her son has made the ultimate sacrifice on all our behalf’s.
or maybe you would disagree?
Popular misconception Gotcha – there is actually no legal obligation to tell people a telephone conversation is being recorded. The messages you get when calling call centres are merely a courtesy. The legal requirement is that one person in the conversation knows the call is being recorded, not both.
see post 31
“I can not believe I have been brought down to the level of having an argument with the Prime Minister of my own country”
Do you think this line was intended to mean what it seems to? That the office of Prime Minister is so far beneath her she’s disgusted that she should have to bother speaking to him?
That’s how I read it. Spot on.
No, quite the reverse.
She is saying she is ashamed to find herself in an argument with the PM.
It is a low act to have a full on argument with the PM and she wishes she was not in that position.
I was brought up the articulate, dignified, working classes and they still measure themselves by old-fashioned standards of behaviour.
You might not have the education or money or status, but you could show your civility through the state of your house, your personal turn-out and by your civility in public.
Having a stand up row the PM would be seen as far worse than brawling in the street.
As I say, that how I read it – but then I just couldn’t bring myself to listen to the recording. The sound of Gordon’s voice is just too sick-making.
I think it’s more that she can’t believe she’s having to have the argument with the prime minister as he should know everything already .. as in “I can’t believe I’m having to tell the pm how to do his job”
If you listen to it, I think it’s an incomplete sentence which she isn’t sure where she’s going with it… which is fair enough, she’s a grieving mother not a public speaker.
So who is telling the Truth?
Mother says son bled to death because of lack of helicopters
or
Gordon says no lack of helicopters
MOD Says
Guardsman Janes was killed as a result of an explosion that happened whilst on a foot patrol near to Nad e-Ali district centre in central Helmand province. He was mortally wounded by an improvised explosive device, which also wounded three of his colleagues. The explosion was followed up by an insurgent ambush which the patrol then had to fight off before evacuating the wounded soldiers. Unfortunately Guardsman Janes died en route to hospital.
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/MilitaryOperations/GuardsmanJamieJanesKilledInAfghanistan.htm
I suppose it all boils down to what was the transport that he died in en route to hospital.
Mrs Jones – SHUT UP!
This one’s for you Mrs Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIjxlLfcM4
# Me and Mrs. Jones… and Murdoch
# We got a thing goin’on
# We both know that it’s wrong
# But it’s much too strong
# To let it go now
Gordon’s mistake do you mean Janes ,see how easy it is to make a mistake.
I agree with you about Mrs Jacob
Look at the photo of Mrs Jason on the phone.
“OK Mrs Josip, I’m the Sun photographer. I want you to hold the phone there and look glum. More glum please. Hold the phone in closer to your face. That’s lovely! Lovely! Great Mrs Josef!”
There was a post on here yesterday about 3 stooges employed by Brown’s dirty ops team to counter the “best rated” posts in the Daily Mail.
Have a look at the Daily Mail today and the same story – EVERY top rated post is one criticising Mrs Janes and supporting Brown.
This is extremely suspicious,GIVEN the standard vitriol Brown suffers on the Daily Mail website postings usually.
I think you will find that they are working the Sun’s message boards and the news channels emails too.
They are working ALL media websites,including The Times.
Wow – the battle for control of the British people happening as we speak/write,led by a dirty ops team in Brown’s bunker.
Remember,Brown’s first thoughts in ANY situation are “what is the political angle” and “how can I screw the other person?”
Inside Gordon`s war room Gordon leads his propaganda team. Notice that they are monitoring live TV news.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2124747.ece
Bloody hell – and there’s actually a fax machine between his legs?
Now he’s f*cking the fax machines!
On a serious point – all that technology and firepower and the cursed man writes a letter like he does to Mrs Janes – I reckon his henchmen are deliberatley allowing him to commit suicide.
Gordon Brown – the only man to write a suicide note dressed up as a sympathy note.
Isn’t that Watson fatso in the background?
I hope they are reading what’s being posted on this site,few freinds here.
Twatson looks like he’s forcing out a rasper to whet Soupy’s appetite for Brown Windsor.
Ah! That would explain this in The Telegraph then. Doesn’t stop the writer getting a right shit-kicking though! Don’t tell me our people are finally bestirring themselves? About fucking time, you lot!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/maryriddell/6533366/Gordon-Brown-should-say-the-unsayable-immigration-has-been-a-boon.html?state=target#postacomment&postingId=6535729
While Gordon’s busy doing this, who’s minding the shop?
Given Brown’s apparent descent into insanity, just about anyone else would be an improvement.
Do we know the names of the three stooges? Or their aliases?
“They” are also pulling the strings at the BBC.
Throughout BBC Breakfast this morning there were lots of emails being read out that were in support of Brown.
Same shit, different day.
It was a Brown love-in on BBC Breakfast this morning. The poor bloke only has one eye….They did not mention the inconsistency of the fact that brown can see well enough to read his own speeches, but not, apparently to check his own spelling in a letter to a bereaved Mother.
On Toady, Norman Smith and Justin WorldyWide on Toady related Brown’s ‘Janes’ reaction to Blair’s Election Reaction outside the hospital and Thatcher’s Belgrano Sinking reaction all in the same breath.
WTF!!Fecking Labour Shills!!
Later it was Evan Davies & CooperBollox against Theresa May!!
BBC brought in their partially sighted political commentator for added emphasis.
they were all over the mail yesterday same as the UKIP the other week traitors all of them.
they wont be happy if the cant do wrong one eyed twat gets back we will all be fucked
define traitor?
Two have just surfaced on our local newsgroup — Michael Kilpatrick and Frederick Williams — we usually avoid any politics or event that doesn’t have a direct connection to our town, but here they are… Kilpatrick:
“Janes, James, whatever. Seems to me like a wholy contrived argument mostly orchestrated by the Sun, no doubt… So yes, I’m sure if one of our boys were in the army and came back on a slab I would feel very upset to have a letter from the Prime Minister offering condolences for the loss of a Kirkpatrick, Killpatrick, FitzClarence, or any other imaginary person. But I damned well wouldn’t be trotting off down to the offices of The Sun just to give those toady little bastards another feather in their cap.”
and Williams:
“Just for once my sympathies are with the Prime Minister. If a secretary
had typed a letter he would have been criticized for being impersonal.
If the Minister of Defence had written it he would have been criticized
for not replying himself. Damned if he did, damned if he didn’t.”
Not damned if he did it himself and took the time to spell it correctly.
Look on the bright side: it keeps the a’holes off here until the afternoon.
Well said, good afternoon
Guido, dig into this if you can. This operation is obviously huge. In just one day they have totally subverted the Mail, Times, Sun message boards. This is more than three people… For a start, there’s a technical structure there allowing them to create, track, manage hundreds of fake users – including email addresses and IP addresses. There must be an outside contractor involved in that – or spooks. Plus, someone has drawn up the scripts, or has trained these little pricks in what to say – who is that? Alistair?
I reckon not. They’re *not bad*. The approach of criticising your Fuhrer, a little, appearing to be an opponent, then praising him a lot, thus seeming to be a credible source, is very American. Used in US mayoral elections. Whoever is running this is either a yank or has spent time with yank cmapaign managers I reckon. But also, they think they know how the comment memes work, right here. I’d suspect involvment from current/former staff, or perhaps interns, from major message boards here.
Now, they’re not *that* good. I’m picking them up easily enough but after all these years I’ve got a good nose. How about some kind of name and shame for exceptionally repugnant examples of the art?
Further, a credible leak, a credible exposure, *could* stop this dead. I think that would be desirable – this is only going to get worse, and I see it as polluting a natural resource. It should be stopped.
And further still…. why now? Has it really taken them this long to get a decent campaign organised? Is this perhaps the result of Dark Lord spending too much time with ISPs?
No registration needed at all to click on the Mails’ comments arrows. Just hop over and hit the red or green arrow as you please, indeed we could all toddle over and start to reverse the flow, I just did.
but you can only do it once from the same IP address as I cannot red arrow twice. To do it multiple times requires either multiple different IP addresses and / or multiple people with different IP addresses.
Not an expert but I think thats what would have to be done?
Nobody is influenced by the feckin’ arrows anyway!!
I have often thought this.
What about the case that they are all genuine and are part of the UK Stockholm syndrome.
Their hostage-taker provides the food and the money for their life. They are dependant on him as an addict or like a hostage. They are imprisoned in the Tax/welfare trap. They even get hand outs of computers and internet.
So when their captor is threatened they defend him.
There is no conspiracy other than to create a dependant society.
That’s just not true, ok?
Just done a test. It might be that the numbers are actually fake.
What ever I try to do they always go back to the same numbers!
Sunday Times pulled an article by that lefty Clarkson.
Anyone got a link?
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/11/mandelson-censors-jeremy-clarkson.html
Thanks.
Come on Jeremy get of the fence!
I searched under columnists and it is still there:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article6907747.ece
Yes, it can be found when you search but when you try to open the link to it you get a broken link.
Brilliant piece.
This has been going on for some time, you only have to scour the comments on the Richard Littlejohn column weekly to see the evidence.
We need a whistleblower!
Come on, you only have a job for 6 months now anyway – do the right thing for once.
I’ll give five hundred pounds to the first astroturfer to go public with documentary evidence of the plot.
Five hundred quid – c’mon fellers. Stick your hands in your pockets everyone. Let’s try *bribing* this government into collapse.
Let’s give these odious little twerps a cash incentive to screw Gordon.
Ah but here’s what happens to whistleblowers:
standpointmag.co.uk/node/2310
Gordon seems to have come out quite well on the radio. A lot of support for a poor , half blind, crippled PM.
The spin doctors seem to be winning the battle.
Problem is , its a battle they should not have fought. Should have let it go straight away. Now its the main story.
LBC this morning was full of people giving support to brown – when Nick Ferrari pressed them they couldn’t really give a reason why. Also, some of them were simply unintelligible and not the normal cockney ranters.
I thought it sounded a bit odd – Ferrari used to be as outspoken as Clarkson but since the takeover by Global Radio and their adverts replaced by Liebour government propaganda, it’s almost as though Ferrari has become stifled.
Global Radio – control all the mainstream commercial medi perhaps?
Something for the conspiracy theorists there…
He’s changing his name by Deed Poll to Nick Maserati
I disagree about the stooges. I despise Bruin but even I think publication of a private conversation like this is below the belt and I’m not the only one. If this is eliciting some sympathy for Brown from someone like me then you can be sure that others more to the left feel even more strongly that this is kicking someone when they’re down. I think this attack by the Sun will massively backfire. People can see that he’s trying to do the right thing even if, in his own cack handed way, he buggers it up.
Wouldn’t you go public if the Lord Voldemort and his cronies were spinning that you and McDooom had gone all lovey-dovey after he was good enough to telephone you to explain how you were wrong and he was right?
Of course you would! Unless you had even less backbone than Millipede.
The Penguin
Same as the Economy and everything else, then. ‘Buggers it up’? I should coco.
Off course anon a stooge would write exactly what you just have.
You’re a Labour stooge and I claim my £5
Nope, no stooge here I’m afraid. I’d like t o see Brown, Mandelson, Blair, Hoon, Blears, Straw, fuck I can go on for years, hang for what they’ve done to this country but when I hear my old man, who’s to the right of Genghis Khan, mutter, “I’m starting to feel sorry for Brown” then I know that this attack isn’t having the desired effect. There’s plenty to skewer the fuckers with – I just think that this is a distraction that allows Labour to play the sympathy card and I don’t want a single wavering voter to think that they should give them another chance because they feel sorry for Brown!
Yep, well I could feel sorry for the rat I shot in my garden yesterday.
Still shot the bastard, though.
Well I’m going to give them another chance because of the way the dirty Sun is trying to control our country.Go on The Labour Party win again!Dave Cameron,friend of the poor,what a joke!
There’s one Lesser Spotted ApparaChick!
They’re much more common this year.
The Sun have handled this in a really cack-handed manner. They are actually creating sympathy for this twat, Brown.
As a comment above noted, the Sun should have sat on this and waited for Brown, or one of his remaining aides, to state that Brown made an apology and then release the recording to prove that Brown is a liar.
As it is, the spin that this is only an orchestrated Sun campaign against Brown, so it is merely biased reportage.
I agree. I loathe Brown – and the lady’s got him bang to rights.
But he’s such a fucking spazz it’s like watching the class wimp getting his head beat in, you feel like calling them off.
I also agree with NLJD in an earlier post. WTF are the army doing? They KNOW they’re resource constrained. They KNOW the equipt is shit. So why don’t they act accordingly?? They should operate within the limits of their resources. If that means doing fuck all, then do fuck all. But currently we seem to be getting a murderously expensive lesson in total pointlessness. Commanders have a responsibility to their troops.
Listening to Jock Stirrup the Chief of the Defence Staff the other day, I’d say his resposibility was limited to himself and New Labour. Troops don’t come in to it. Likewise the UK.
The troops would be of much more use taking military action against the traitors in this country.
They really would be greeted on a carpet of flower petals as liberators if they liberated us from the treasonous bastards who are selling us out to the EU.
Stirrup is a politician and fuck all to do with real soldiers.
It is known as Social Media Maniupulation.
I am very proud to have the most red arrows on the DM website for the Gordo story. I really wanted to say ‘the man is a total Hoon’ but I don’t think they would have allowed that.
Not really because this was also the same on radio 5 this morning. Lots of people in my West Country town sympathise with Brown in the street .Could the Sun have made a huge tactical blunder?
The simply fact being, so things are so low, that even Daily Mail readers disagree with them.
Oddly, i think Anon is totally right.
The spiners should never have made the issue worse , but , almost by luck, Brown has actually come of this better off.
He looked so tired and feeble and beaten today that many people will have thought ‘He’s had enough lads, leave ‘im be.”
Quite surprised that the mother has come of it so badly. She is the only one who has suffered any actual loss.
Listening to the whole phone conversation just now – Brown actually states that he DID write her name correctly!
Listen to it – it is quite early in the 12 minutes conversation.
So now day is night and night is day.
When is a misspelling a correct spelling? When Gordon Brown tells you so.
Very sinister – you can feel the panic that Labour are losing control of the plebs.
The Stasi are losing control….
The way he speaks to her shows his total contempt for her and her son. He is a vile piece of shit.
He’s even trying to bully her during the call. His character shines through so clearly.
Doesn’t he realise she’s go nothing to loose? She’s lost her son. Now she’s angry and he’s the target. He can’t bully her, he can’t conjugal her he has no leverage.
And she knows it
You are a brave man. I can no longer listen to a word that lying, disingenuous bastard says without clenching my fists and the bile rising in my throat. It’s probably just because I associate him with marching the UK into a completely avoidable and unnecessary total economic clusterfuck while all the time proclaiming his economic brilliance.
Gordon Brown is not a man to be trusted. Quite the opposite. His ‘go to’ position is a lie. Not even the best lie. Just any old lie. Anything but the truth.
My mum was like that. It would drive you insane. Any time you asked her a question you could see the wheels turning ‘Why is he asking that..?’ ‘Where is this going..?’ So in order to throw some imagined line of questioning off-target from the beginning she’d simply say the first lie that popped into her head. But it had to be a lie.
Gordon Brown is the same. He’s long ago given up triangulating any possible line of questioning in favour of simply lying and then denying that he’d lied if you question him at some later point. This works (kind of) if you’re my mum ‘cos she wasn’t recorded on tape or film with every public utterance so she could claim it’s the other party that has made a mistake/’no I never said that’/'you’re the one who is mistaken’ – and it probably worked for Brown while he was a low-level chiseller and back-stabber but it doesn’t work when you’re PM. All your pronouncements (lies) are there on camera. He still can’t adjust to the new reality though.
His ‘go to’ position is still the forceful lie.
I don’t agree with you at all. Gordon Brown is a hardworking man who is much wronged by the gutter right wing press/blogs. If Cameron ever becomes PM he will know that the honeymoon ends with the election result. I would rather have Brown,laws and all than that twat Cameron. Milliband would be much better,go David M.
*vomits*
Vomiting is a natural reaction to too much alcohol or food poisoning. It is not a reaction to reading. I also agree that anyone except Cameron would be good,perhaps David or Ed Milliband if Brown retires early.
They’ll play this at his trial.
Christmas morning, the tower of london, a howling mob outside, gordon gaffer taped to a chair in front of a hand picked jury of murderous patriots. He’ll get a fair trial and a decent hearing and then will either walk free, without a blemish to his character, or be dragged kicking, screaming and weeping, howling like the cowardly corrupt cur he is, to the nearest wall and shot to fucking shreds.
It is not for us, ladies and gentlemen, to prejudge that trial result.
But don’t shoot him in the face – the fucker has an appointment at Traitor’s Gate.
Rebellion is an ancient right enshrined in our Bill of Rights of 1689. Although not an individual right, it IS a community right and more a DUTY and must be used in the protection and defence of freedom and sovereignty and to prevent despotism, tyranny and dictatorship.
Rebellion, peaceful or otherwise, is entirely lawful and is the legal duty of patriots everywhere.
Use it or lose it.
Mr Ned, that will be an English right then, given that the Union of Parliaments was not until 1707. This time I will let you carry on, I do not give a tinker’s cus for Broon.
It started as an English right, but that right goes along with the Act of Union, and the later acts internationally recognised in laws and state and national constitutions all over the world.
So long as there is an active and fully participatory democracy, then it could be argued that the rebellion should firstly come from the ballot box.
However, where such systems exist which preclude electoral accountability, and tyranny is enacted, then rebellion is not only a legal right, but a DUTY.
Hence lawful revolutions in the United States and France and elsewhere.
BTW, when is the last time we got a vote directly on anyone that creates and enacts EU law? the Commision? Nope! the Council of ministers? Nah, Brown was only elected by 24,000 council tennants. None of the rest of us have had a say. What about the EU Parliament? They do not create law.
The time may be very near, when the act of rebellion becomes a lawful duty once more.
We need to knock down a wall. But where?
The first one that comes to mind are the railings at the end of Downing Street – not a wall but it’ll do imo.
And we need the police who are guarding it – and the troops who are fighting very sadly for disinfo in foreign climes – to wake up and whistleblow too before it’s too late for us all but especially future generations.
We only have three weeks until the Lisbon Reform Treaty becomes British law.
Until then, the sovereign people still have our Bill of Rights to lawfully protect us and any rebellion.
Time is short.
Has anyone the courage to overthrow the state to erase the traitors and usurpers and those who would debase our sovereignty in treason against us all?
Brown lied as usual, claiming they have done their best to get the equipment. It was BROON who as exchequer seriously cut the defense budget and particularly the helicopter supply.
Defense ? Learn english.
Brown is an idiot, all his leftie friends are out in force. The BBC are a joke, they are ‘disgusted’ that a dead soldier be used for political purposes, BUT remember how the BBC used to cheerlead for Cindy Sheehan all the time?
And why does the BBC insist in using BLIND Gary O’Donnell to comment on this story all the time?
YES – very interesting use of a specific reporter. All credit to him for being a reporter,just an interesting use – perhaps being manipulated himself?
I must say that I find O’Donoghue’s reports rather more even handed than most on the BBC.
Sadly I must agree with that statement. His reports are generally even handed and give both sides.
It’s rather like using only Scottish reporters to cover Scottish news items, whereas the rest of us have to suffer Scottish reporters covering English items. The West Lothian question doesn’t only exist in the H of C!
Hugh, obviously this never bothered you until Broon appeared. Have a little of what we put up with and I have put up with for more years than you have lived.
Ah… so two wrongs make a right??
Don’t know about Hugh – but it bothered me before Broon got to the helm. Only first heard about the WLQ after I moved to Scotland. For some reason the BBC don’t like to talk about it much down here in the Shires…..
The BBC is the organisation that revealed the whole excuse for war was a pack of lies and yet ended up apologising to the government plus firing the reporter that broke the story and the DG for good measure.
David Kelly was just the Admiral Byng of the piece.
Why do you think they’re now so shit scared of offending the government, all the PC nonsense and leftism has definitely got worse in the last 6 or 7 years.
History of course proves that Gilligan was right all the way along, and that Bliar was a deceitful little scrote who not only took the country to war on a false premise, but hounded out the journalist and his boss for daring to mention that he had discovered the truth.
Kelly, one of the most respected nuclear scientists in the world, paid the ultimate price. RIP, he should also be on the roll of Honour.
The judge that delivered the verdict exonerating the government might want to look to his conscience too. Although expecting anybody in the legal profession to have a conscience is probably as naive as believing in the tooth fairy.
Dr Kelly was actually a microbiologist and an expert in biological or germ warfare… not a nuclear scientist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_%28weapons_expert%29
That’s what the lizards want you to believe.
Is that you Mr Icke?
On yesterday’s Daily Politics, Anita read out just one e-mail about this. It purported to be from the mother of a lad killed in a road accident who thought that she would have been jolly grateful to get any kind of letter from a politician and it was ungracious to quibble about spelling mistakes. There was no analysis of whether a situation where one’s son has died on Her Majesty’s service and could have been saved by availability of the right equipment is different from a death from a road accident. Both are tragedies but the PM is directly implicated in the former and not in the latter.
I noticed that BBC breakfast continued in this vein this morning. Somehow, this is now being presented as Brown being himself the victim of tragedy and coping manfully with disability. Unfortunately, I know many people who have dealt with a lot of personal tragedy – ill health, disabled and sick children, loss of their jobs and pensions . They do not continually use their misfortunes to excuse any inability to function decently.
Nice to see Nick Robinson on the Today program believe that Gordon Brown is paying a “terrible price” for his actions as chancellor and Prime Minister. That will be the same terrible price that the dead soldiers paid will it.
The BBC. Sympathy for Labour, thats what we do.
Spot on, and why is it wrong to beat up on the one eyed twat yet OK to beat up on George W Bush?
Bush has taken more of a beating on this that any Liebour scumbag ever did.
I have to agree that Brown is coming out looking like a victim of disability….Al-jeBeeba saying things like “you have to take in to account his eyesight” etc etc ad nauseum.
Does being partially sighted stop one from being able to spell?
Off-topic, but I couldn’t help noticing that the last time I saw Frank Gardner on BBC News, they made a point of panning the camera round from the side to make sure we saw his wheelchair, before zooming in on the man himself…
So what?
BRING OUT YOUR CRIPPLES!
BRING OUT YOUR CRIPPLES! WE NEED THEM TO DEFEND GORDON
GORDON IS SUCH A PATHETIC FUCKING EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING THAT WE NEED AS MANY CRIPPLES AND BLIND C’UNTS AS WE CAN FOR HIM TO HIDE BEHIND
LEPERS, CRIPPLES, BLIND PEOPLE, DOWN’S SYNDROME C’UNTS LIKE NICK ROBINSON
ANY OLD CRIPPLE WILL DO WE NEED TO SAVE BROWN
JUST GET THOSE CRIPPLES OUT THERE DEFENDING GORDON FOR FUCKS SAKE
HE IS SO PATHETIC AND WEAK AND HAS NO POPULAR SUPPORT SO WE MUST PLAY THE CRIPPLE CARD
DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND? WAR TORTURE OCCUPATION RETARDS AND CRIPPLES
THAT IS THE NEW LABOUR PROJECT IN A NUTSHELL INNIT
VOTE LABOUR VOTE SPASTIC
There was never any report of Mr Brown’s health issues when he entered no 11 or no 10. He obviously only uses them as an excuse when he needs to.
Shame Gardner can’t be bothered to point out it was MUSLIMS that put him in the wheelchair. The man with him wasn’t so lucky.
How exactly to you console a Mother who has lost her son in an unwinnable war with no just cause?
The handwritten note shows how poor Brown’s cognitive skills are.
The phonecall demonstrates a total lack of empathy, but at least Helicopter resources are 60% up.
He does love his tractor statistics.
Yes – helicopters up from 6 to 9.4.
Not to mention that there are eight more Chinooks sitting unserviceable at Ohiam for the last decade that are STILL not ready,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Chinook_%28UK_variants%29#Chinook_HC3
And don’t forget the new armoured cars that they had to ship in because there wasn’t enough heavy ailift capacity – the ones that sat at the port in Dubai for weeks waiting for someone to pick them up while men were being lost in the old “Snatch” Landies…
War has always been as much about organisation, logistics, equipment as it has about shooting people. From Napolean’s trip to Moscow to the Hawker Tornado.
War is a bit shit like that.
And it’s the bit we always fuck up.
We have the best trained soldiers in the world, but there is absolutely no point in sending them half way around the world if their equipment doesn’t go with them!
I don’t know whether other countries balls things up too, but I suspect its the case.
No one celebrates the pen pushers of 1944.
Hawker? Think you mean Panavia
Hahhha aha ha ha ha. No.
You fell in to my trap.
No one celebrates the pen pushers of 1944.
That is the biggest load of bollox I have ever read on this blog. It was the planning that did the deed. A massive undertaking planned to the Nth degree that finally saved many lives though many were lost. I find it incredible that people are so ignorant of one of our greatest moments can even write something like that.
They were pen pushers but they made it happen without a single computer anywhere. Today if the same thing happened it would be
’soreee all our computers are down can you invade tomorrow?”
Jeeez!!!!
New armoured cars (Warthogs) for our army being made in Malaya.
Thats Pish
Singapore actually.
Malaya doesn’t exist, a bit colonial don’t you think?
New stuff bought because the existing British Waste of Space antiques were not up to the job.
Sorry to be pedantic but the Chinooks sans their software codes are not sitting at Odiham.
Have they started moving them to Boscombe yet?
Apparently they’ve ordered a few more today, let’s hope these are not confined to flying in VMC (ie not in cloud or sandstorms)!
And some UK RAF Search and Rescue helicopters are only working daylight hours at the moment.
This helicopter shortage has been going on for years – ever since 1997 (although to be fair someone had messed up prior to that and all the new orders were obsolete before we got them), Bertha’s brother left the army air corps a few years ago because the pilots could barely keep their hours quota up, they were so short of helicopters. In addition they were cannabilising the oldest one to make running repairs on others and keep them airworthy. He lost three mates when their bird crashed – don’t know what the “official” accident report said but they all knew the equipment was poo. He quit not long after that.
He now works for a private company who do search and rescue because we haven’t got enough helicopters to do it for ourselves.
As for Mrs. Janes good on her, five generations of infantry men from the same family. Brown’s not fit to lick their boots.
Damn right, Bertha.
Even the ones in the air are never all up at the same time.
The ground crew swap the electronics, as they land, onto the next helicopter.
(Source ex-Chinook ground maintenance engineer)
But they could find a helicopter for Wills to take a joyride in to have lunch with his girlfriend some months ago!
My sympathy to Mrs Janes and all the mothers who have lost their children, but I do have one question for them.
Knowing that the British Army has never at any time cared for the soldiers who fight why did they think there would be a change today.
I would rather shoot my own kids than let them go to war for Britain. If they want to fight then let them join the American Army, they at least look after their soldiers providing lifelon gheathcare and education if desired. You end up on the streets here.
Agrred Bertha, personally I would do fuck all for this country now.
Id rather fuck off as a draft dodger than serve Broon or the Cameroons. Both have vested interests elsewhere, none will protect our lads over there – NONE!
Draft dodger? Not me pardner!
Does that mean we had 10 and now we have 16?
Mrs Janes speaks out! She had the facts and figures and Broon wasn’t allowed to hide behind his mythical tractors. It’s straight from The Thick of It, without the swearing. Brown was mental to think of phoning her, but once he had done so he couldn’t just hang up. He’s fucked.
As if the death of her son wasn’t enough for the woman to have to deal with . . . .
Brown the mumber 1 chump
I’d say he’s a total fuckwit, whoever made this arse PM should do the right thing by this country and take the lead painkiller.
Brown is pond scum.
Does he realise just how much he is hated?
no he doesn’t. He cannot ever face the truth, no matter how obvious it is to everyone else, he cannot admit that he is wrong, he is surrounded by toadies who tell him how wonderful he is. On top of that, he has nothing but contempt for “ordinary hard-working families” which is why they are only even mentioning the issues that have plagued the rest of us in this country, a few months before a general election.
those “Downfall” videos of McDoom are rather accurate. Who else but an inveterate and self-deluded fantasist could seriously believe that he’d single-handedly “saved the world” not once, but twice!
The man is a nucking cruitfake, have no doubt about it, thankfully though all the spin-doctors and crawling Beeb journos and Liebore interweb trolls will not save him come next May, no matter how hard they try.
Keyword: DENIAL
I have never denied anything that I have been responsible for and have always sacked the person responsible.
Please let this be the end of Labour. We must all work together and drive a steak through the evil, corrupt, heart of this vile Labour government.
Traitors to the last.
Would that be T-bone or sirloin? I agree with the sentiment, though!
This is shite.
Fuck the spelling mistakes that daft bint never questioned the war that killed her son.
She looks like a crack.
. . . head.
And you look like you don’t know how to use the blog – useless c’nut
She does look like a crackhead – Gordon Brown, unable to out argue a crackhead. Unable to outthink a crackhead. Gordon Brown, beaten in the character and humanity stakes, by a crackhead.
Not looking good for the treasonous fucking moron, is it?
She’s looking like a mother who had to bury her 20 year old son.
That was the brief given to the photographer at the sun.
Sometimes I forget how truely vile New Labour wonks are.
Thanks for reminding me.
Not me. Perhaps you need to be reminded how truely vile tabloids are.
So you don’t think the sun would be trying to maximise the impact of their story?
Regarding your last comment.
Yes the tabs are vile and I’m sure they are playing her to an extent and will drop her like a stone come the next story to bash Brown with
But thats a whole lot different from suggesting she’s doing anything other than any grief stricken mother would do in her situation.
Stop trying to smear the poor woman and attack the Sun instead if you want to defend Brown
You’re really making things up lurker.
Neither comment says anything the slightest bit unpleasant about Mrs Janes herself, never mind a “smear”.
You say “playing her”, I suggest “selecting a photograph appropriate for the story”. You’re closer to a smear than me there you know.
Exactly.
A comment too far.
Any parent who has had their child killed will not be looking their best.
Soldier’s wives cannot afford the Cherie Blair style makeover.
well said
here here
Kate McCann always scrubbed up well…..oh, hang on, her child wasn’t dead, was she?
no amount of expensive makeovers can improve the way that Cherie Bliar looks – you’d need a fvcking wall to hide that gash of a three-dick gob.
After a certain age your character shows in your face… Cherie’s got a gob that could swallow the Harrods Sale i.e. GREED.
I have to say that I agree with you, nothing ever made Cherie Blair look good. I always thought that she could not be that intelligent to be caught so often with her mouth open.
bang on…
No.20 Go f*ck yourself. No one will weap for you come the day you die – fact.
. . .head.
No thanks I’m spent.
My organisation is beginning to lose control!
Tried his best… best isn’t good enough…. NEXT!
Spot on,spot on.
And that’s the point, He get’s it wrong almost constantly and when confronted with the facts hides behind misleading statistics and argues black is white.
His ‘go to’ position is a lie. He knows that the truth will not look good hence he lies. Any old lie. This worked when he was a no-mark lecturer and MP because every word wasn’t being recorded for posterity so he could simply deny he ever said any such thing.
It doesn’t work when you’re chancellor/PM but he still hasn’t adapted. Old habits die hard.
maybe he should have offered her a biscuit? I hear that he has very strong feelings about biscuits.
All he needs now is a silent cinema piano player on a little motorised dais to follow him everywhere he goes.
What is the fairy queen waiting for?
Finish him.
Well found! Exactly what I meant, but with Keystone Cops joanna.
O/T, a good day to bury bad news…?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6534319/State-to-spy-on-every-phone-call-email-and-web-search.html
All telecoms companies and internet service providers will be required by law to keep a record of every customer’s personal communications, showing who they have contacted, when and where, as well as the websites they have visited.
653 public bodies will be given access to the information, including police, local councils, the Financial Services Authority, the ambulance service, fire authorities and even prison governors.
They will not require the permission of a judge or a magistrate to obtain the information, but simply the authorisation of a senior police officer or the equivalent of a deputy head of department at a local authority.
I think we can crash such a system, can’t we?
There is more in the pipeline, you can bet that this will not just be used for copyright.
http://blacklistednews.com/news-6197-0-32-32–.html
Anyone who thinks the internet is beyond the control of the political class is sorely mistaken.
This directly contravenes the data protection act and the Human rights act to preserve freedom and privacy.
this has to be resisted at all costs – and ID cards were dismissed as too intrusive.
Last gasp act of a totalitarian government to monitor every aspect of our lives.
Cameron better come in and dismantle big government or I will vote UKIP and then emigrate
There is no sign at the moment that Cameron has any intention whatsoever to dismantle big Government. Instead he has stated he will spend 5 years negotiating with the EU, all the while the state will at LEAST stay the same size as it is now, but, more likely is that it will continue to grow as ever more EU directives are enacted which transfer our public services over to the Private Sector via the “third sector” or the great quangocracy.
This is how they are planning to REMOVE our ability to remain as a separate, distinct, independent sovereign state over the next 20 years.
This is how the national borders will be slowly erased. Pan national regions of bureaucratic control of sectors of public services.
There is a slow and deliberate hand-over of power from national governments to regional quangos. These regions are geographically different for each sector, so there will be one hard border around the EU under which EU law is supreme. This law will be enacted regionally by regional agencies. The borders of these agencies will be geographically different for each service sector.
For example, in the South East of England, one would live in one house that is in one geographical location. BUT, you would live under the statutes of several, geographically diverse regions each with a headquarters that may be in a different former nation state. So despite living in Kent, you may find that your educational headquarters are in Paris, your building regulations are controlled by bureaucrats in Luxembourg, your Regional police headquarters are in Liege, and your health Authority is headquarters in Birmingham.
Under such a system, it would become impossible for the people of Britain to ever again become a free, independent nation again.
The plan is to make every former nation, utterly dependent on the other nations that surround them, for everything.
They are merging once distinct and seperate nations together in such a way as to prevent them ever being able to separate. Like coloured strands of plasticine, once mixed enough, there is no separating them.
The national borders will not be removed in one swift move. They will be made to be more and more irrelevant, slowly over time, until one-day we turn around and notice and state, Hang on! We once had a border over there and it’s not being used for anything anymore.
By the time we reach that destination, it will be too late to do anything about it.
I believe that we, the sovereign people of the UK should be given a say on this, BEFORE it is too late.
If we are not given a say in a referendum, then we have to take matters into our own hands, and the ONLY way to do that, is to use the General Election next year and register our say by voting UKIP.
IF anyone has any better way of lawfully preventing the above scenario, please do tell me now, because I cannot think of one.
IF you think that voting tory will make everything OK, then the signs are that you are in for a MASSIVE disappointment and that you will merely get a slightly better continuation of more of the same.
Please tory voters on here, point to one substantive policy that Cameron has shown will be materially different from Brown’s. JUST ONE. And then tell me how his craven capitulation to the EU would empower him to enact that change anyway?
The very sad, but very very real fact is, YOU CANNOT DEFEND BRITISH SOVEREIGNTY BY VOTING CONSERVATIVE OR LABOUR.
By voting labour or conservative, you are voting AGAINST a referendum on the EU and voting FOR further continuing integration into the EU without the direct and expressed majority consent of the British People.
The GDR has arrived.
The Stasi are here
You are being watched, monitored, controlled.
Nothing escapes the preying eyes and ears of your local Council!
a bunch of James Bond wannabee`s down the Civic Centre, spying on us rather than emptying the bins and keeping the library open. Fuck me Jesus, it`s come to this. The frightening thing is that there is no individual Blofeld figure behind it all. If there was he could be exposed and neutralised. It`s down to thousands of faceless bueareaucrats, funded by us who regard us as criminals.
And where are the politicians ? Lining their pockets and scrambling for jobs. Utter scum.
The leader is a Scotsman called Bloatface…
Poor Soul wants to be English. I would prefer if you would give the B*st*rd asylum. Any mental establishment that you can lock him up in for the remainder of his life.
There is a great market for offshore proxies who can re-route calls, emails and internet browsing but are safely outside the jurisdiction.
Agreed. Companies selling encryption services might do rather well too…
Watch out the web browser encryption is not crippled, what is claimed to be say 128 bit encryption appears to the security forces as 48 bit due to key escrow. Use a trusted browser, web tunnelling, offshore secure email and pgp for text.
Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security known as traffic analysis.
Tor protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, and it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location. Tor works with many of your existing applications, including web browsers, instant messaging clients, remote login, and other applications based on the TCP protocol.
Hundreds of thousands of people around the world use Tor for a wide variety of reasons: journalists and bloggers, human rights workers, law enforcement officers, soldiers, corporations, citizens of repressive regimes, and just ordinary citizens. See the Who Uses Tor? page for examples of typical Tor users. See the overview page for a more detailed explanation of what Tor does, and why this diversity of users is important.
Tor doesn’t magically encrypt all of your Internet activities, though. You should understand what Tor does and does not do for you.
Tor’s security improves as its user base grows and as more people volunteer to run relays. (It isn’t nearly as hard to set up as you might think, and can significantly enhance your own security.) If running a relay isn’t for you, we need help with many other aspects of the project, and we need funds to continue making the Tor network faster and easier to use while maintaining good security.
http://www.torproject.org/download.html.en
Two words: web proxy.
Without the constraints of the usual politician v politician, politician v angry memeber of the public is always much more enlightening.
Don’t expect to see the PM in publice very much now
So that’s phone calls finished.
Face to face meetings with “We,the People” has never happened and never will as he would be verbally ripped to pieces live on TV.
Letters are now out.
Interviews with Adam Boulton/Sky are out
Interviews with The Sun are out
The live debate with Cameron/Clegg will not happen
Mums.net is out – far too dangerous questions and they are ALL women and women give Brown a hard time
Brown has painted himself in to a corner here – he has no way of “communicating” anymore.
All he has left is GMTV.
And the good ol’ BBC. They always give him all the airtime he needs to spout all the bollocks he cares to. ‘Cos it’s the right thing to do.
Up here in your despised Jockland, we had the sight of Darling chatting to a checkout girl in Glasgow during the Glasgow NE by election.
The BBC news summed it up as every little bit helps.
There’s a TESCO in Glasgow? I thought it was all ASDA, Morrisons, Co-Op and Farmfoods in Glasgow.
Ooooh. TESCO, we are getting posh.
Who said Tesco?
Isn’t ‘Every little helps’ the Tesco catchphrase? Supermarket – every little helps – Tesco..?
Didn’t I hear that you were getting a Waitrose as well, gosh we will get the Glaswiegian to stop smoking and eat veges and stop voting Liebour. Aye right!
There was a Scottish chain of supermarkets called William Low, but they were bought out by Teco about 15 years ago
We’ve had several Tescos here in Glasgow for years.
And BTW even up here many of us think the Prime Mentalist is scum who has pissed away the economy through his deceitful lies and statistic fiddling.
youtube is out
In ref to the above mentioned three stooges…one of them is almost certainly a using an alias called Mark Sawtell on Facebook.
This person comments everyday on the 5live breakfast debate about how nasty the Tory party is and how nu labour have saved us.
If he does is there something wrong with that?
Yes, it’s called stooging propaganda, and I should know
They don’t like it up ‘em!
Hey, how’s your postal voting doing. That’s the Liebour way.
So richly amusing to listen to the Labour luvin, sneering, smug, Scotch kunt Nicky Campbell on Radio Five Dead proclaiming:
‘Is it time to give Gordon a break?’
‘Is he being hounded?’
Fook off Celt Kunt Campbell, that hate filled, smearing, bullying, one eyed, spendaholic, lying wretch deserves all the pity and compassion he has shown the hard working, tax paying, decent people who play by the rules and get shafted for it.
As for the equipment denied to those cry babies in the Army, because all the cash has gone on scroungers, bankrupt banks in Labour’s heartlands, the workshy, disability fraudsters, and state employed paper shufflers, we can only hope McDoom takes a ride on a flat bottomed vehicle in northern Helmand, fookin pronto
And I am unanimous in that
Here! Here! except please stop swearing, we don’t all like Broonie here in Scotland many of us loath him with a vengeance.
Perhaps Brown’s letter could be used as a toilet roll – each sheet is a Brown letter.
Would be a Christmas bestseller for sure.
Brown would literally be wiped out…..
The Sun performs a public service by publicising this phone call. It shows Mrs Janes pain and Mr Brown’s ineptness. He’s like the weirdo who sits next to you on the bus and won’t leave you alone. He gives me the creeps.
By now he should getting it: calling and writing to the bereaved relatives might be heightening their trauma, not comforting them. This caring ‘father of the nation’ routine isn’t working Mr Brown stop it.
Does he get it?
I’ve loathed the Sun for years and have never bought it, but in it’s confrontation with McDoom I wholeheartedly support Rupe Murdoch, regardless of his motives. Besides, it’s a bit rich for Liebore scum to complain that the Currant-Bun’s picking on Gordo, when the Trots tore it up live telly and said it was only any use for arsewipe. Doubt that a battling ocker like Rupe is going to take that lying down.
And it’s a given that the Sun is more in touch with the feelings and opinions of the bulk of working people in this country than McMental and his Stasi and ZaNu cronies.
about time someone rubbed the sanctimonious gits face in the mess he caused by cutting funding to the armed forces. bliar might have been a vainglorious duplicitous fool but brown deliberately shorted the forces money especially for helicopters to fund his client state.
and just how insulting to someone who had just lost her child is the line … “I do understand but I think you have got to also understand that I feel very strongly about this as, as you do.” That is simply an empty platitude as he tries to escape. the man is scum.
Mrs Janes is a formidable woman and much respect to her.
Think back to the early years of the nulab regime and there are plenty of examples of labour mp’s boasting about how they were going to cut the military down to size , it was one of their articles of faith – good to see its come back to bite them – its just tragic that loss of life and decent life as well, is involved.
Pretty shameful when a mother has to buy decent kit for her sons, because service issue kit isn’t fit for use.
I’m sorry, I can’t bear to listen to it.
THIS IS WHERE GORDON LIKES TO BE BEST OF ALL – RIGHT IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST, THE EUSSR:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8351506.stm
Above all else,is Brown’s letter something that a bereaved mother will keep in a shoebox and take out and read in the years to come as she goes through the grieving process?
The answer is no.
My blog in this is simple:
Lessons in life #142
Never argue with a mother
Ampers
With Never argue with a mother a link to the Sun article. At the last count my blog goes to 82 different countries so it isn’t too good for getting the message over in England sadly. But as our local supermarket keeps telling us – every little helps!
A.
I think, never tell a mother that you killed her son, but you feel just as bad as her about it.
I’d say that is as great a misjudgement as it is possible for any human being to make.
Gordon Brown, worst person in the world.
I’m not sure – it could be a 4-way tie with Bliar, Mandelson and Al Gore. (Oh, does Beelzebub count as a ‘person’?)
Gordon Brown has come over as a person who lacks maturity, certainly he has never cultivated any people skills which worries me as the job he has chosen is one in which he should. Over the years I have heard him described as being ‘charming’ ‘funny’ caring’ by various people, one who actually knew him as a junior civil servant. I have never seen this. I have only seen him in the flesh once, unfortunately there was glass in the way or I might have thrown something. I took a complete dislike to him that day and my opinion has never been changed. This is a man reared in the Tribal Labour Party, Scottish Branch. This is perhaps the most deplorable part of the Labour Party, if you belong to any other Party you discover how dreadful they are, and if you are a member of the Scottish National Party you are beyond the pale.
Mrs. Broon, when he was called “funny” was that “funny haha” or “funny peculiar”?
PHUCK OFF
I hope I have spelt that correctly
No doubt in my mind this was an ambush. But like the Marshal in The Fugitive. I don’t care.
What I do care about is who is, in theory, ‘running’ this country and how good a job they are doing. Taking on a war widow, no matter how egged on is a no win… but so far ‘handled’ in just the manner expected… with surly semantic evasions and tractor stats.
This latest episode is like watching the Black Knight in the Holy Grail http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno
Accepting that little in politics is always ‘fair’, one wonders if we are to be left with a pair of lips mouthing ‘lessons will be learned’ before some accept that in addition to varying levels of competence (especially when it comes to matters of delegation and/or having anyone who might point out the odd pitfall, much less listening to ‘em) there seems a Napoleonic level of delusion to match the lack of luck.
Decent, possibly. Maybe even plucky to some. But… hardly the best way to run a country.
This is typical of the micro-management for which he is so infamous.
All Brown had to do for the first 10 years was make sure he didn’t financially ruin the UK. Make sure the books balanced. But he couldn’t do this simple task. Because he was too busy sticking his fucking nose into every single department and playing God with their budget. So that he could then get up on budget day giving it ‘I have made umpty billion extra available for the NHS…blah blah..’
When what he should have been doing was making sure the books balanced. But when you’re getting involved in writing letters to ‘X-Factor’ wannabes and shafting the Armed Forces then you haven’t realy got your eye on the big picture.
Hence the complete clusterfuck in which we find ourselves.
The jackass.
It really shows how much he distrusts his staff and is totally unable to delegate-a truly dreadful trait for someone in his position and unsustainable for a politician.It baffles me how he seems to have got away with it for so long.There was a legend that Curzon as Foreign Secretary was similar.He used to set out the place cards at State banquets himself.
Meanwhile, helicopters that could be transporting our troops are still sitting in a hangar since 2001 awaiting avionics modification, all because we tried to save a few quid when the MOD originally ordered them. Hopefully they will be deployed next year, but then that’s probably only so McSnot can make an announcement prior to the election.
http://news.parliament.uk/2009/03/report-on-mods-chinook-helicopter-programme/
Fuck me, how the fuckitty fuck does it take 9 fucking years to sort a problem out when we’re fighting two wars?
+++BREAKING NEWS+++
MOD announces it has finally found a way to blow up the dams of the Ruhr valley. A bouncing bomb will be installed in specially adpated Lancaster bombers. Modifications to the bombers are expected to take 9 years.
In the interests of soshul harmonisation soshulists will always allow you to be inept. Just because you are not tall does not mean that you cannot be treated as 7′2″; just because you are not clever does not mean that you cannot have a degree. Everything must be equal.
And that means that nothing much works in the UK but to grease the wheels somewhat to give the impression of progress they throw large amounts of money at everything. So what that we are inept they think, the capitalists and landed gentry were also in their minds inept but they had cash. So be as inept as you want to be because cash will equalise everything. And every rubbish pop star, D list celebrity, crap TV programme, lottery winner and gummint initiative proves the case.
We will overcome, with cash. And then the cash runs out.
Got it in one.
http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html
THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.
Some things about living still weren’t quite right, though. April, for instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron’s fourteen-year-old son, Harrison, away.
It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn’t think about it very hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn’t think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a government transmitter. Every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains.
Brilliant post, AC1. Many thanks. I’ve read only a couple of Vonnegut novels but never seen this before. If only we could reincarnate him and Orwell.
Someone posted a Kipling poem yesterday that exactly and uncannily summed up our Glorious Leader. Before long, we’ll have people thinking that these litterateurs have actually got hold of something…….
Which sould lead neatly to the Ballard novel about the burning of the books, Fahrenheit 451.
exactly what time was the phone call?
I bet £50 it wasn’t made during X-Factor
Maybe he was ringing through to vote for Lucy.
The Left appear to think that having good intentions is enough
Competence is what is required
Sadly, good intentions (with regard to their own careers and personal fortunes) do seem to be enough – and not one of them has felt an assassin’s bullet!
How very true and succinctly put. Take aside all the emotion that Brown’s deceit raises, it must be for this reason that this government are seen to be unfit to govern.
A vote for David Cameron’s chums means this.
You have been warned
a return to the Thatcherite approach that caused long-term unemployment to soar and child poverty to double
Let’s see who is right
But under Brown long-term unemployment has soared. They’re just all hidden on various ‘disability allowances’, ‘long-term disability allowances’ or any other number of economically inactive allowances. Brown has simply rigged the figures to hide them from the official designation of ‘unemployed’.
The number of ‘economically inactive’ is the same as it was under Thatch. In fact it’s gone up.
As for the child poverty figures..
1) I could cure ‘child poverty’ overnight – in fact I could cure it in as long as it takes me to sign my name to a redefinition of ‘child poverty.
2) Using Brown’s and Labour’s preferred definition it too has got worse under Labour.
Labour – fucking everything up because they’re totally incompetent.
If I hear the phrase “child poverty” again I will do murder. So fooking watch it; debased trite and fooking meaningless shite. I need a lie down now.
Sorry But I’ll Have To Say It One More Time !
In Britain there is no such thing as “Child Poverty”
This is a government spin ,there are poor children yes but poor nowadays means they havent got an Exbox or £100 trainers they do live in squalid conditions but this is down to their lazy arsed parents ! Soap and water costs nothing !
So get their fucking doleite scum breeding parents out of fucking bed and down to the job center and make them work !
Ive worked with these scum and their kids have nothing ,but bruises ,no toys dirty beds scruffy clothes filthy house etc . but the parents sit on their lazy fat stinking arses all fucking day smoking, drinking and taking drugs that my friends is where ALL the money given to these pondlife goes !
People will fall for this. Cameron is losing credibility because he doesn’t seem to have any policies. Few people are interested in ‘Europe’. There needs to be a message of hope, something that will make people feel good if they vote Tory.
The only message of ‘hope’ Cameron need exude is ‘We’re not this incompetent Labour government’.
That’ll do for me.
I have a message of hope for the British people – that mong Brown is out on his arse come the next GE.
You got my vote then
excuse me……the idiot posting as Gordon Brown….what fucking planet have you been on
Unemployment has risen under every Labour government there ever was
Public Debt has also risen under every Labour government there ever was
and the poor have become poorer under this government
You are obviously another new labour apologist blog troll, paid by the taxpayer to spread lies and half truths.
I suggest you have a close look at where you are going to work after the 7th May 2010, assuming you haven’t been exposed and tried for sedition.
McGroom,
Good morning, loser. Note how this story isn’t running so well on the newspapers’ comments. People are more accustomed to the rampant spinning on the part of The Second Son and Noose Interventional, it is, excuse the expression, blowing up in their faces.
Hahahahaha
Please note that MB hasn’t been too busy on here today. Probably roped into making multiple comments on all the online news media.
Gotcha!
Whatever is happening on the newspapers’ comments it’s not running in favour of the Noose International line.
Maybe people are sickened by Noose International’s war jingoism one minute and undermining military morale the next and all from the makers of Focks Noose.
I just listened to the whole transcript.
Absolutely painful.
He is a total disaster. How do people support such a man? A serious question.
I would be unable to “work” for someone of that calibre. I appeal to all those in Downing St to look at themselves in the mirror and ask themselves if what they are doing is in the best interests of our Nation (not themselves) in serving such a person.
Not long now and he will go down in history (if it is still taught in our schools) as the worst Prime Minister of all time.
I am truly ashamed to be British
He’s Scottish. If you’re English, you’re okay.
No Hes Not, He Has Given Up The Right to Be Scotish When He Signed The BizzBum Treaty He Is Now European And I Hope They See Through The Useless C*nt And Dont Let Him Near Anything Important Ever Again !
I am not ashamed to be British – I am ashamed that HE is British!
Well said, sir.
How can any Prime Minister survive this?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722106/Mum-at-war-Jacqui-Janes-the-full-transcript.html
How can he be thrashed like this, and continue? It beggars belief.
I was obliged to leave the United Condom in 1995 when my way of life, van dwelling hippy, no address, was made illegal by Major!
I warned everybody that I knew this was the beginning of fascism in the Condom.
I moved to Germany, same lifestyle, same trade, craftsman and artist.
The germans would often ask me
‘What is a van dwelling, Brit Hip doing living in Germany?’
‘I have more freedom here in Germany’ was my honest reply!
I was educated by the older boys in the village in the ’50’s that I must be brave enough to be able to kill a German!
Can you imagine how humbling it was to be obliged to be honest to the Krauts and tell them that I have MORE FREEDOM HERE IN GERMANY!
As I have discovered in the last 3 years since moving into a house, having regular access to the net and the Teletubbygraph, things are 100 times worse in the Condom than when I left!
LA HONTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I read the transcipt!
Speechless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mrs H has found a new way of torturing me.
She turns up the volume when the Thing speaks on the telly!
I am a bit deaf and can then hear that, that utter shitbags voice even if I hide in the kitchen!
The Europeans think that Gordoom is very, very, very funny!
THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU ALL
We stopped being British years ago. Gordon is the ONLY British person left and for that we read English. Your welcome to him.
Another of our lads killed while serving our country and he cannot be arsed writing just one single letter properly. The least he could have done is get hold of someone who can fucking spell. Or did McBride used to pen all his letters?
CVs sent to our company with any hint of sloppiness get binned. This is many orders of magnitude more serious. Brown is a phony that doesn’t believe in a word he says.
Never mind letters – I think he should be made to personally receive every returning serviceman’s coffin and help carry it to the hearse – only knowing him he’d drop it.
When a Prime Minister is openly ridiculed by the rest of the World and he no longers commands the respect of the electorate;the armed services;the media and the Sovereign methinks anything he attempts even from the best motives is doomed to failure. However Brown’s greatest personal humiliation is yet to come – the General Election – when a tsunami of contempt will wash him and his government into political oblivion leaving a wasteland of economic desolation behind them.
Just wait until Labour triumph in the Glasgow North East by election this thursday.
That will be turning point for Labour
Labour will probably win that with an increased turnout. Just like Glenrothes. I trust they’ll keep a closer eye on the voter register this time. The SNP should ask the EU or Castro to provide independent election observers.
It will be very fair
Not as fair as mine!
They have already arranged to “lose” the marked-up Electoral Register, the company that shredded the Glenrothes one has the contract.
And of course, the McPatel’s postal votes…
The Penguin
McTwat has already visited the constituency, so it must be a done deal.
election victory by postal vote manipulation and ballot box stuffing , yes indeed it will be (another) turning point.
Fuck off and get a brain!!!!!!!!.
Postal Votes anyone! The People of Glasgow deserve everything they get if they vote for the Labour Party and they usually do.
But it is no less than he deserves.
Imagine the sense of betrayal and disappointment Major must have felt when he handed over a thriving and solvent economy to this bunch of incompetent jackasses. Imagine having to sit through 12 years of watching these monkeys utterly destroy the economy as some kind of collective punishment for the Poll Tax.
You’d think being voted out of power was punishment enough but it must be excruciating watching a bunch of utter ignoramuses and braying, incompetent jackasses completely destroying the economy for no other reason than, at best, utter incompetence and at worse pure malicious spite.
I bet it wasn’t as bad as when everyone started immediately thinking about him screwing Edwina.
I’d have screwed Edwina.
The Penguin
We all did.
Six more brave soldiers to be repatriated to-day via Wooton Bassett. Will Brown be too busy at his monthly news conference defending the indefensible to be arsed to attend ? What do you thin ?
No Minister has ever turned up there, why should today be any different? No shadow minister dares to turn up either, scared of being accused of making a party political point about lost soldiers.
Dave, when you get in make sure someone is always at Lyneham to see them home, it is the least they can do, to show respect to those making the ultimate sacrifice on their behalf.
RIP six more brave men
“to see them home”
That there is nobody from a govt that has sent them is so disgusting – what has this country become that there is no one there “to see them home”?
Of course,We – the People – will always be there to “see them home”,just as we will be there when they take Brown out of Downing Street next year,but to see him OFF.
Exactly some of our best lads dying out there, meanwhile the youth left behind just piss on war memorials.
I thin he won’t be there; I thin he’ll be thin air.
Where’s Gordon ?
Shitting himself with fear and shame.
Ooooooooooh!
I don’t know where he is but I do know he’d look better with a bayonet through his neck.
I wish Gordon Brown would go do the right thing – stick his head up a very rancid dead dog’s bum.
brown is finished.
If only you were right on this one.
MRS JANES You should stand for parliament : you can get your point across so much better than the mental buffoon !
God Bless You And Yours !
May I suggest Covenrty North East, home to Defence Sec. Bob Ainsworthless and his 14,000 majority?
or Coventry North West, MP Geoffrey Robinson?
Has been a recruiting ground for Fusiliers for decades.
Agreed.
Mrs Janes your country needs MPs like you in Parliament representing our interests like never before.
Well done Mrs. Janes, you have my sympathy and I applaud you for your continued support in your ultimate sacrifice; i am not sure I would have so gracious.
What this conversation reveals is why Gordon Brown locks himself away in his bunker and avoids all contact with the public apart from stage managed visits surrounded by the party faithful, children or beneficiaries of New Labours largesse.
If Gordon actually ventured out in public, I am not sure the protection squad would be able to ensure his safety, given current rage and anger.
Gordon avoids this kind of encounter because it upsets his fragile sensibilities and rightious self belief that he is doing the right thing.
Those around him know that if a chink of self doubt creeps in, he will fall apart and there isn’t really a cabinet minister that wants to accept the poison chalice of succession.
Mrs. Janes speaks for us all, but many I suspect would have gone a lot further.
Gordon is a busted flush and the Labour party know it.
Let us see how the spin doctors deal with this one
I was driving along a quiet road in Scotland during the summer and the driver of a passing Jag looked liked Mr Brown. I flicked the V’s just in case.
They’re already well on the case – look at the comments being poured out everywhere by the bunker apparatchiks.
I do hope that David Cameron and his team are ready to have all the computers/ Government mobile telephones etc. in Downing Street, The Cabinet Officer, seized and checked to discover which ones were used to send out messages on behalf of Brown.
This is not only a disgraceful waste of public money, it is also insidious and communistic. Remember when this crowd attacked an old aged pensioner over the NHS. How they attack, attack anyone who may oppose them
We have got to be organised to ensure that every one of these rats that operate, AT OUR EXPENSE, is identified and if a criminal charge can be made – Like Theft of Electricity-Theft Act 1968!!!! they must be charged.
Then the Labour Party must be shown to be the germs that they are and never ever again given any opportunity to govern this country.
Lets put Labour on the dole permanently!
Bring the whole shambles up before a Nuremberg Tribunal for Grand Treason and reinstate the death penalty for that crime
Better still, make each one of them spar 10 rounds with Nikolai Valuev.
What? That loser?
Ouch, big bastard that Russian isn’t he?
One can’t help feeling that perhaps our soldiers are nowhere near as under equipped as our unelected Prime Minister.
What a superb statement.
The difference is,one DESERVES to be equipped and the other deserves NOTHING.
Mandy. Put us out of our misery. PULL THE PLUG.
I am so glad that Mrs Janes stuck it to Gordon Brown. It’s not the fact that he insists on writing his own letters though he is too blind to do so, but the fact that he lies about the availibility of equipment to parents of boys who bled to death because, years ago, as Chancellor, Gordon Brown decided to play politics with his colleagues in government and cut back on defence spending in order to mess things up for them.
Jacqui Janes sticks it to Brown, wrath of Greens aimed at E. Miliband, D. Miliband fuels EU job speculation, More problems over tuition fees, More names for Brown’s Wall of Shame, Does Jane Kennedy have a point? Welcome to Gordon Brown’s Britain, where 6-year-old gangs attack ambulance staff and the government doesn’t care
If Communism was such an abysmal failure that the populace rose up against it, why have New £iebour introduce it to this country ?
Because they think they know better.
Narcissistic personality disorder underlies socialism.
Anyone know when we can look forward to seeing this programme on C4?
They won’t be able to hang her ‘cos there ain’t enough rope to go round her necks.
Burn her alive is best and use the fat created to manufacture some candles,millions
of them in fact.
Patek Philippe anyone? Don’t ask anyone where it’s come from, the blood will wipe off with a moist J-Cloth.
Labour has mobilised its vast army of the unemployed and welfare dependent to fight on its behalf.
The correct media response is to offer £10,000 for the details of how the operation is being run and managed.
Anybody remember the details of the “Jennifers ear” story, which played during a previous election campaign.?
Does all this mean the election is very close?
The election will not be held until the last possible moment, as liebours demolition will be so total there effectively won’t be a party at all. Everything Bruin and his cronies are doing now is to try to maximize their personal income after it. Even deliberately screwing things up for the tories is no longer a priority as liebour will be in the wilderness for at least 10 years, by which time they will be past “helping” it anyway.
10? 110 surely.
You lot who constantly criticise the P.M. make me cringe. Bet you’ll be doing the same all over when the next is elected. Moan moan moan, why don’t you.How about some constuctive comment & constructive support for servicemen instead of mealy mouthed back stabbing?
fuck off
Well thought through Frank Fisher, you knob. Fucking useless Sun “newspaper” with this no account story.
What effect do you think you are having on the front line?
you cannot even think up a name you cripple so do not lecture others on the subject of thinking.
and you sound very interested in the front line.
got your tin hat on? ready to go to the front line are you?
no? then shut the fuck up you arsehole.
Says the fifth rater
don’t be such a bad loser anonospaz.
I am top boy and you are the fifth rater.
the reader can figure that one out for themselves innit
you are just another lying new labour war troll pumping out new labour war party bullshit.
but it doesn’t work anymore.
tough shit loser.
Steam yet to come up?
said the loser.
Very lame tat, very lame.
Boiler not even warm yet?
I win you lose.
I thought I told you to fuck off?
Frank Field can be found at 39 Victoria Street, London SW1H 0HA working in a foaming pit of New Labour blog trolls.
His real name is Grima Wormtongue
Or even Frank Fisher
“what effect do you think you are having at the front line?”
Why, merely telling the soldiers stuck on the other side of the world that the majority of people ay home (am I still allowed to call it that?) think the same of this rancid government s they do. Stick your faux ‘patriotism’ up your ARRSE.
Sure thing Damian. Now get back to scrubbing the school toilets.
Welcome to the blog Mr ’small businesses are moaners’ Sugar, enterprise tzar
Sounds like a great idea, constructive support for servicemen. Gordon Brown is in power he can get the right equipment to our troops. I will make a constuctive comment when he does.
here’s something constructive
Ben Elton’s emigrating ( had enough of Uk under labour )
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1226529/After-25-years-moaning-Britain-comedian-Ben-Elton-Australia.html
commiserations to Australia
Better. Necessary equipment and men to the front line NOW. Where are those Yanks (again)
Waiting for Obama to make his mind up.
The communist twat doesn’t want to pay the 50% tax rate!
Feckin hoon!
Never thought I’d consider emigrating back to UK until now.
BTW I don’t see how he qualifies. He doesn’t get enough points and he has no skill we need – unless he’s an asylum seeker?
Unluckily for you, Ben Elton has held dual nationality since 2004. He married an Australian and sorted it, so you can’t keep him out. Never mind, at least it won’t be Geldorf coming over, who is even more irritating and sanctimonious. Not after, you know, all that business we don’t talk about.
If you support Brown on this, then you are the sort of person who will carry out orders if he signs away the lives of millions with a stroke of the pen.
“I think I think I was trying to say Janes, as your right name. Maybe, maybe my writing looks bad but I was trying to say your right name. And I spelt Jamie right as well I understand.”
What the fucking fuck is he on about? What the fucking fuck does this madman reckon he’s doing? He think he thinks? He spelt it right, he understands? He talks as if he’s a puppet, as if someone else did these things. Dissociation. Flattening of affect. Plain refusal to acept factual errors. He is barking fucking mad. The man is mad. Our PM is nuts. This is bloody astonishing.
gordon brown is a fucking psychopath, frank.
the man is a raving fucking lunatic.
and the fact that he is allowed to stay in post tells you everything you need to know about the utter contempt the electorate are held in by the political parties.
they all know gordon brown is mentally unstable yet they let him remain as PM.
unfortunately for them this letter and telephone call have exposed brown for the utterly useless fucking bullying bullshitting c’unt he is.
and the fact that a lunatic like gordon brown has managed to reach the very highest office of the land should concern us all very deeply. there is something fundamentally wrong with our system when the political class are happy to conspire together to hide the fact that a prime minister is mentally unstable.
but we should expect nothing more than that from this ROTTEN PARLIAMENT.
innit.
Fucking hell TAT – I actually agree with you for once!
You’re not an impostor are you?
’tis me.
I am forming a coalition of the unwilling.
welcome aboard.
I know I’ve not been here much of late, but has Thick As Thieves been transmogrified and humanised into an new improved TAT (complete with brain cells)?
Can’t believe I’d ever find any agreement with the old unreconstructed model.
The Penguin
That’s because it’s a fake tat, it’ll rub off with time.
seconded
It’s just all the normal politician’s deniable truth bollocks.
They are all careful to be certain that nothing they ever say can be taken apart in a court of law and proved beyond reasonable doubt to be an un-truth.
Hence all the “I understand”, “I believe”, “I think” qualifications for every sentence.
In the context of this particular conversation it is truly pathetic.
How did GB ever propose?
I believe I feel it would be in your best interests to form an alliance with me, Sally, if you can understand what I’m saying, I want you to know that I am aware we could make a partnership, Susan..
Mind you the bigger mystery is why she EVER accepted she must be madder than me.
for the power and the need to Twitter.
Sybian Solutions.
Brown is supposed to have been a lecturer in History or Politics at some obscure Tech College in the West of Scotland, isn’t it rather odd that no one has crawled out of the woodwork to tell the world about how great a teacher Dr James Gordon Brown was, and how he single handedly helped them achieve their goals.
Yet we do not know if he subjected his students to a tirade of abuse if they dared to criticsse him in any way. Is there a history of flying blackboard rubbers? Perhaps a Scottish contributor knows someone who knows someelse who saw Brown teach?
On the other hand, he either cancelled his lecturers, or no one bothered to turn up. Perhaps all the attendees have been eliminated.
It was a political railway siding. He was parked up on the public purse while his KGB-influenced handlers figured out where to insert him into the system. Think about it – A HISTORY teacher at a TECHNICAL college.
That’s as much use as a fucking dance choreographer at NASA.
There were no history students at a technical college. It was money for old rope.
If there were students at this Tech College who attended Brown’s lectures, at least one of them would have gone to a newspaper, radio station or TV station to sing the praises of his now famous lecturer.
Or is this one of the F Lying Scotsman’s tall tales?
And why the name switch from James (1st name) to Gordon (2nd name). When and why did that happen?
Or was Brown a racist who didn’t want the same name as the Godfather of Soul?
Another insightful and intriguing post, jgm2. Worthy of further investigation.
watch him at the press conference
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Guido, I do not know if BBC Radio 5 do podcasts, but this mornings programme with Little Nicky Campbell was classic. Try to get a copy.
They allowed Charlie Whelan to spin and spin again in defence of Gordon Brown. This story is all the Tory and Suns fault. It was classic, he even attacked you, not in name, but as a collective Tory bloggers attacking Brown.
Smear Gordon, a classic defence.
They just do not get it, as an employer, if I received a letter from an applicant or saw his spelling and handwriting, I would sack him. We deserve to Brown to the court of public opinion an election. The man is a thug, he wanted to impress and push this women by calling her, I am glad she turned the tables, I hope she stands for parliament as an independent.
Talk Fitch are goiung to downgrade UK from AAA again, if this happens we must have an immediate election.
Gordon Brown has tried to intimidate this women just like he tried to intimidate that young girl last week who confronted him over the death of her father who was killed by thugs.
Your Court of Public Opinion is impotent now.
All matters have to be referred here now….
Charlie Whelan spinning and spinning again? Poor little Nicky must have thought he was back on Wheel of Fortune, but then again he’d found his level then and should have stayed there, the pretentious lefty cock.
God botherer to boot
Conference starting late – obviously the dose is being increased….
He seems remarkably slow.
Largactil will do that …
Comfortably numb. Is there anybody out there?
As usual he didnt listen to what somebody was saying, even a grieving mother
HOON!
I reported here yesterday how publicly-paid staff at Downing St were bombarding the Daily Mail site with posts, under many different names, defending Gordon Brown and casting unpleasant aspertions on the deceased soldier’s mother.
Today they are employing the same tactics by bombarding the Sun site. It is becoming so obvious now that someone from the Sun or Mail must be inclined to investigate what is going on.
Meanwhile, they are wheeling out Charlie Whelan to go on the attack on behalf of Gordon. Downing St are terrified this story is going to go nuclear.
Read the comments and spot the similiarities:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722174/Mum-Jacqui-Janes-at-war-PM-is-humbled.html
Give us the detail – give Guido the detail, c’mon. Do the decent thing.
There’s a drink in it too..
This must be investigated further. We should not be paying tax for Labour stooges to be paid to troll web sites with propaganda.
a friend of mine works for the local council.he told me that they have teams of people pushing out propaganda telling us how wonderful they are……….
the hospitals too!!!!!!
and we see it every day in the comments section of the papers and bloggers……
scum!
this message was checked with a spell checker-
my brain and one eye!
It is everywhere under this government. Just check out the number of “Press Officers” that any department has.
Nothing can ever go out from my local council without it going via ‘Comms’ (communications dept) first – just to make sure it ‘gives the right impression’, you understand.
wow – he’s doped up to his eyeballs.
Wheeled out Burnham as a prop.
If you look closely and have high definition,you can see the strings that are pulling Brown.
It’s Armistice day today, apparently!
Heard that and looked at my calendar – surely today is the 10th?
The stupid fucker – yet more evidence of his foot-in-mouth disrespect to our fallen.
How can he be taken seriously as PM when he doesn’t even know what day it is ?
He’s well on the ropes. One little push this morning and he’ll be carted off!
He is very near the end. Mandy is the undertaker. He’ll be gone by the end of the week.
Brown is really really speaking very slowly – any medical men to update us on why?
Neuroleptics?
Because he’s nuts.
It has only belatedly dawned on him that every word he’s said for the past ten years is on film or tape somewhere. His early life tactic of saying any old shit and then denying it afterwards (where’s the proof?) just doesn’t work when you’re chancellor/PM.
So he’s having to think about what he says. Again, if he was telling the truth then speech would come naturally but when you’re dancing about trying to avoid telling the truth you have to pick your words very carefully. Blair was a natural at this.
Thanks for the compliment !
Anyone got a link to the crazy smile Brown did in Berlin? It was up there with the youtube one!
Amongst all this anyone notice how the liebour spin machine failed dismally to exploit CMD’s “Cast Iron” difficulties? Too busy firefighting – and theres an inferno blowing right now.
The tories are in next time, that’s obvious. Vote LibDem to ensure liebour come third – they would be as crap as the official opposition as they were in power.
Good spot, mate.
He is now blaming poor Mrs Janes for her outburst as she isn’t dealing with her grief very well!!!!!!!!
Neu Liebor’s latest “18 Week NHS Treatment Promise” sounds good until you realise that it’s approaching “6 months”. Fuck me, I could be dead in six months.
Oh no – Alky Ada again.
Not answering the question,desperately trying to run the clock down by bullsh*tting on and on.
Get the questions out Mr Reporters skewer, this vile man
They have increased Brown’s dose of largactil. He is on the ropes.
As for Downing St’s mass trolling of the Sun, Mail, Times sites etc, I understand that the Mail and Sun are both investigating this.
They should trace the IP addresses and if multiple pro-labour posts are coming from the same location, and that location was Labour HQ or Downing St…well, that’d make a good front page headline wouldnt it?
Here comes 60% more choppers
Followed closely by Afghan girls get to go to school.
So Afghan girlls has got chopers?
shouldn’t you be Janes Goody?
What so they can learn how to be raped by their husbands?
He refuses to apologise. What a vile sociopathic bastard.
This is the endgame for Brown. It is the most excuciatingly awful press conference I have ever seen. He has just committed electoral suicide.
Ceaucescu.
To a tee.
He’s starting to lose it – voice getting louder and he’s knocking the podium as he gets angrier and angrier.
The bully boy Brown does not like it.
Somebody ask him why he totally fucked the UK economy by pissing money about like a submariner on shore leave instead of being prudent.
I taught him all he knows.
A C4 Docu-Drama exploring the relationship of the people of Britain with their unelected leader, in the wake of all their money being burned or given to thugs and their country handed over to a Staninist uber-bureaucracy.
Contains scenes of the rectal mis-use of fireworks.
I am a shy person!
That a conference has to happen and our PM says this – for gods sake,this is pathetic.
This country is a laughing stock with this commie bastard here.
I’d swear I just saw a laser from a British Army sniper’s rifle ficker across Brown’s ugly mug.
If only…
Here is the key question for Labour to answer.
“JJ: So where’s all the money? You can save a bank. You can put seven whatever into saving a bank. Why not put it into the troops? We all know they are not going to be brought home and I am glad they are there to help.”
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2722106/Mum-at-war-Jacqui-Janes-the-full-transcript.html#ixzz0WS1183K6
In case you missed this FACT – our brave troops are commemorated upon the stone walls of an Egyptian sun temple – titled ‘Arboretum’ (aka GROVE, where pagan sacrifices were made):
The National Forces Monument, Alrewas, Staffordshire:
http://www.thenma.org.uk/images/sub_header.jpg
An arboretum is simply “a collection of trees”. It does not mean a ‘grove’ which implies that the trees are deliberately planted close together. An arboretum can be acres of trees, planted any which way. The defining characteristic is that the trees are deliberately collected from diverse places and species. The word arboretum was first used in the English in the 1830s. It was not used in classical/pagan times to refer to any kind of grove.
So no, it isn’t a sacrificial site to Yog Sothoth.
I take Alki Ada when I’ve got indigestion…
********MACBROWN*********
The tragedy of a Scottish Son of the Manse
Final Act, Scene 1
The scene is set on Death Row. Macbrown is sat in a padded cell on 24 hour suicide watch, up to his knees in snot and fingers chewed to the knuckles.
Macbrown: (rocking backward and forward and mumbling) it wasnae me, it wasnae me……..
*Flashback* The Court of Public Opinion, 1 week earlier.
Judge: How find you the prisoner, guilty or not guilty?
Foreman of the Jury: Guilty m’lud.
Judge; (donning his black wig) Macbrown, the Court of Public Opinion finds you guilty on the following counts:- Treason for signing away sovereign rights in the Lisbon Treaty, Treason for complicity in waging an illegal war against a sovereign country, wilful destruction of the British economy, wilful underfunding of British troops resulting in needless deaths.
You will be taken to a place of execution and sentenced to death by hanging at a time of your own choosing, but no later than 5th June 2010.
Take the prisoner down.
Brown: (dragged from the court by two burly officers, screaming) It wasnae mah fault, it wasnae me………
* Final Act, Scene 2. Christmas on Death Row (to be broadcasted)
* Final Act Scene 3. The Execution (to be broadcasted)
Blair and Mandelson would love that outcome. Then they’d be able to pin the entire 12 year clusterfuck on Brown, the fallguy.
But Brown was only able to wreck the UK economy because Blair didn’t sack him. Preferring instead to play Russian roulette with the economy while he polished up his ‘International Statesman’ CV by taking it up the shitter from Bush over Iraq with a view to doing an Al Gore and establishing himself on the more-money-then-sense rubber-chicken after dinner circuit.
Gets the UK involved in an unnecessary war in Iraq and then gets himself appointed as some international peace negotiator in the Middle East? WTF?
These people are just taking the piss.
Very good. I think there were not a few other serious charges missed off the charge sheet, though; not the least of which bussing in shedloads of immigrants in an attempt to ethnically-cleanse the British from their own islands.
Brown really hates that Alky Ada wonder what she did to him.
Didn’t she used to be in Coronation Street?
So where is the “brave’ reporter who asks the burning question;
“Brown – you are unelected,hated,mistrusted and a fraudster – you must stop now and stand down immediately – why don’t you?.”
When is a reporter going to ask him why he doesn’t just fuck off?
Perhaps for a short walk in the countryside?
And now the arms are waving – Mandelson is in the attic above him pulling the arms with utmost skill.
Ah well – he says he’s open to discussion and talking and listening to people.
Why doesn’t he fuck off then? One well pitched question in the next 10 minutes and they’ll have to scrape him out of the carpet.
But it won’t come,it never does.
There is no question that Brown cannot ignore or simply sidestep with a collection of rigged statistics. Blair was the same.
What is needed is a co-ordinated approach from the journalists so that when he sidesteps the question from journalist A with a tirade of rigged figures journalist B simply gives it ‘those figures were utterly irrelevant to the question Prime Minister so I’d like to ask the same question again – just why did you think running deficits of 3% of GDP in your self-proclaimed longest sustained boom in UK history was sound economic management..?
When asked by C5 ,I think, whether he would categorically deny the alleged lack of helicopter rescue for Jamie Janes,he did not answer the question..just more platitudes of ‘under normal circmstances’..I am seeking assurances’ etc. He knows the answer,but won’t give it honestly..in other words,he’s more concerned with his own face saving than anything else.
Browns body language also displays no compassion for these events..just anger that he has been exposed before his peers.
Disgraceful.
Can’t stop Conservitudes, busy posting under various names elsewhere in yet another push to prop up saggy Gordon!
Barely enough time for a wank!
Lets hope this c*nt misses out on the so called 18 week pledge!
This would be the respected and sympathised with Gordon you mentioned yesterday?
Saggy he is today then? How the mighty have slumped.
MB fuck off ragyed
Oh come on mb you’re the wanker wanker !.
43 countries operating in Afghanistan????
Bet it’s only the Americans, Brits, Canadians and a couple more that are actually taking casualties. For the remainder it’s party time!
Yeah – The eye ties (they only have reverse gear in their tanks) pay the enemy not to attack them.
I want to emigrate to another planet,let alone another country.
I don’ t think it’s as many as that. However, the tally of countries comprising this ‘coalition’ comprises tiny countries sending as few as two soldiers to fight. It’s a joke.
To the Daily Politics
Copy to Guido Fawkes
The PM and his gang are running scared – he’s now trying desperately to save his premiership with a huge ‘counter’ operation
All media (including the Times, Mail and Sun) are currently under attack – receiving texts and emails supporting Brown
Independent blogs and those on all newspaper message boards are being ‘worked’ by Brown’s ‘dirty ops’ henchmen from the No 10 bunker.
Of course you won’t report it – but it’s important for you to know that we do know what’s going on – and we shall not forget!
Perhaps Andrew will be brave enough and mention this on Thursday evening after the ‘watershed’
Can’t answer the question re: Kalvis’ petition. Twat!
Not sure he heard/understood it – answered about grieving
He understood it, that’s why he used his usual tactic and answered a different question.
Bit like his 3 lines of cockwaffle reply we all found in our in our inboxes.
I told him to go and f*ck himself after that one pinged in.
My demand has obviously worked – he’s sure fu*king himself this week,as with every other week.
for a supposed history scholar our commie traitor mcsnot really seems to have learned …..nothing!
why are our troops in afghanistan?
according to him and millipede it’s always protecting us from al queda…….
there have been NO proven uk attacks by al queda!
as we all know a/q means ‘the base’ and was set up by the cia!!!!!
we had 30 years of ‘the troubles’ in northern island and or soldiers could not beat a guerrilla army-therefore teflon tony caved in ………
why do our govt. of mad commies and rent boy abusers think that they can defeat a proud bunch of tribesman with a fierce history of warfare?
and poor gordon WAS the man (?) who deliberately held back the troops funding!!!!!!!
to get at tony!!!!!
all you labour trolls should resign……….
YOU ARE A TOTAL DISGRACE!!!
the man deserves NO SYMPATHY WHATSOEVER!!!!!
So listen to the troop commanders, not the politicians – none of them.
Blimey – great question on the petition we all signed – and he talks about Afghanistan and being a parent.
This man is mentally ill,so out of touch with reality that he must be marched off the premises.
His Cabinet must be charged with wilful neglect of a country and its wellbeing.
Told you. There is no question he will not sidestep. No matter how obvious and ungainly it is to the casual observer he has succeeded in not-answering-the question.
The only news that will be reported of this is some sympathetic report from the BBC which will show Brow empathising with his whole ‘tragedy…blah blah… loss of a child..blah blah..’ The context of him getting this innappropriate soundbite out to a question on whether or not he should resign will be completely glossed over.
The whole thing is a fucking farce. It’s pure 1984.
Well said.
Robinson has just been on saying how No.10 staff must be so upset they allowed the PM to send this letter, makes him sound like some kind of pin headed inbred loon locked in an upstairs room and not allowed access to sharp objects for his own good.
Was I just dreaming?
Some guy asked Brown about the petition for him to resign,and whether people just wasted their time signing it
He banged on about the grief people feel when faced with tragedy.
Does this devil not understand questions?
He has to be insane.
We do feel grief – for the tragedy that is Gordon Brown.
I feel grief for this Country,in having to endure the humiliation of having a Prime Minister that is an utter disgrace,and who has made Britain the laughing stock of the World.
Standard training for live interviews. If you do not like the question, answer another one. That trait, annoying as it is, is not just Brown’s.
“Managed immigration, not uncontrolled immigration.”
Fucking lying bastard.
Harder to “rub the right’s nose in diversity” with ‘managed’ immigration isn’t it?
Another Brown endorsement for Bliar as President. Keep it up, Gordo.
Could you spell out your travel arrangements for the rest of the day?
Completely insane – when asked the “Glasgow has been wrecked by Labour over the past 12 yrs” question,he does not even stop to make an answer – simply piles in to the attack.
How can his colleagues allow him to continue?
Simply amazing
Only the last 12 years? Glasgow has had a Labour council since about 1920.
That worked out well.
And still the jackasses will vote Labour. Just you watch, it’ll be Glenrothes II.
Labour? It’s like a fanatical religion to them. Goes through them like a stick of rock.
He’s much happier trotting out tractor stats than answering questions; that much is clear.
Yes – his arms wave about and he gets this look with his eyes closing together as if in deep contemplation.
Well Brown,I have something for you to contemplate – life after your electoral death next year.
Asperger syndrome.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia.
“Asperger syndrome is an autism spectrum disorder, and people with it therefore show significant difficulties in social interaction, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behaviour and interests. It differs from other autism spectrum disorders by its relative preservation of linguistic and cognitive development. Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical use of language are frequently reported.
The exact cause is unknown, although research supports the likelihood of a genetic basis.”
From my own experience I can tell you that people with Asperger’s can also be very stubborn and self willed. They can be very self centered and just do not empathise with other peoples misfortunes. They act upon what they have been told is the right thing to do rather that which comes from the heart. They are also quick to blame others and can not see their own faults nor will they apologise when they do wrong. They are not violent or nasty but do tend to live in their own world and sometimes have strange or weird points of view about life and will readily subscribe to conspiracy theories. They can also be high achievers as they can focus on subjects very deeply and will exclude family & friends completely sometimes.
Ring any bells?
In other words, ‘Asperger’s Syndrome’ is a label attached to some people who are not ill, but are unusually shy. It serves to medicalise certain patterns of behaviour, with a variety of effects, some good, others bad. The good effects are I suggest that the individual and others may recognise his or her personality type more clearly, making it easier for the person to overcome difficulties that it presents, while others may understand better that the person is not being ‘rude’. Among the bad effects are that it tends to stigmatise people who are said to ’suffer’ from this syndrome when they may prefer to be left alone and that it creates a new industry, drumming up possibly unnecessary paid work for medics and others.
Worst of all, it leads to ridiculous folk-diagnoses of people, including Gordon Brown.
You seem to have put two and two together very quickly. Did I mention Gordon Brown?
And your personal experience or medical qualifications are?
If you want to do some good back in the bunker check his letters properly before they get posted.
Yes, I have personal experience of dealing with a relative with Asperger. He was far better off when others understood that he had a different personality from most of us than when the matter was medicalised.
You implied that GB suffered from Asperger. You have to explain how, then, he is able to speak in public, give live interviews, conduct Cabinet meetings and so on. The chances of a person with Asperger doing these things are, frankly, about as good as my chance of winning an Olympic long jump medal.
I’m afraid I just hate folk-psychology as it triviliases people, is wrong and leads to our excusing bad behaviour. GB doesn’t have to behave badly because of some unfortunate illness. He could behave better if he chose to.
It all depends where on the spectrum the individual is, indeed whether it is a unidimensional or multidimensional spectrum and, if the latter whether the different spectra are correlated or independent.
SOMETHING’S BLOODYWELL WRONG WITH HIM
Brown is not Aspergers, he is a sociopath, aka personality disorder.
Google sociopath and you will identify his patterns of behaviour.
My wee boy suffers from Aspergers but he in no way mirrors Brown’s behaviour.
Brown is devious and a terrible user of people for his own ends – Aspies are not that devious and forward-looking.
Brown is not autistic – just a devious man trying to stake his place in history and line his pocket.
He has succeeded – the most venal, mendacious, incompetent and devious example of the political class ever to sully the highest office.
Brown isn’t ill. He’s just full of shit…
Agreed.
Oh God he’s off – on and on .
Why not aks – “why is it you are bringing in an 18 week health treatment guarantee just a few months before an election?”
I would like to know why he’s bringing in a six month treatment guarantee when only a few weeks ago he was going to bring in a two week guarantee and cure cancer completely.
What happened Gordon? Did somebody accidently erase the file for curing cancer and you’ll have to start from scratch?
Sorry chinky, can’t understand a word you’re saying.
How sick – he’s using the arrival of troops killed in Afg” to Wootton Bassett for a reason to stop the press conference.
The real people who must shoulder the responsibility for this mess are all those who voted Labour
In fairness, they were conned. If Labour voters had known things would turn out like this, would most of them still have voted Labour? I suspect some (the tribal idiots) might – but most people are rather more thoughtful than that.
In those far off days of a fresh faced Tony Blair, looking all pert and clean, we (many) were taken in by a promise of a new start and a break from the warring Tory party. It keeps happening. Shit begets shit.
Never trust a smiling cat.
Hello, my friends. I have a friend who suffers from schizophrenia. I know that this is a very difficult disease. One of his symptoms is that he is not being able to show emotions at all. Is this common for this kind of patients? I would appreciate all your replies considering this.
It’s common for all sorts of disorders – and non-disorders, too! This kind of question is impossible to answer. The cultural /ethnic background of the individual also makes a big difference. Stoicism is expected in some countries where emotional coldness – or perhaps the inability to show emotion are considered normal.
Tell him not to be a politcian – more especially a Prime Minister.
What was the point of that? Was there a single straight answer to any question at all???
Decent Questions.
Doesn’t answer the question by waffling.
No chance of riposte, therefore can be asked anything as it won’t be answered.
Reminiscent of the Two Ronnie’s sketch where the specialist subject on Matermind was answering the next question before it is asked
The shamless fucker even uses “sarah” to try and appear human during his obscene phone call to this fine and brave woman, also 22:00 hrs????
Did it not occur to him that she may have be trying to get some rest with her family and friends.
Ol Ma Beast usually goes to bed before that time
He is just despicable and its heart breaking to see his ugly mug next to the photo of that handsome proud young soldier.
Oooo Brown doesn’t like that climate change question,how dare people not believe in climate change,you know we have the end of the world at the beginning of December
Yes,another example of the way he jumps down people’s throats,bullies and shouts and claims nothing but that he is right and everyone is wrong.
A hateful man.
That Aussie bird specifically asked Brown about man-made global warming. Brown totally excised the man-made aspect from his response. Typical.
That’s cos he was in a hurry to vacate the room(having already mentioned the repatriation at Wooton Bassett to-day )- before the C17 touched down at RAF Lynham ay 11am and the media outlets were able to split screen him at the podium and the C17 landing – but first he had a tortuous question from a Japanese reporter regarding Copenhagen not helped by the guy’s accent – Brown looked at Burnham in confusion for a moment and then the “sheila” from “Oz” asked him about the view expressed on climate change by some unknown Australian Conservative blokes. At the end Brown couldn’t get out of the room quick enough. He exited with 30 secs to spare as the BBC switched immediately to RAF Lynham and the C17 landing. Perhaps Brown is starting to realise that he’s suffered a massive hit on this one. He was even wearing a black tie which MUST be a first !!!!!
Unknown solely because the legacy media filtered it out.
If you don’t view legacy media, you’d know who he was.
Jeeze. Lloyds were cutting 4000 jobs 10 minutes ago according to Sky’s newsstrap. It’s 5000 now!
GERDON BRIWN
YUO ARE THE WEAKWST LINK – GOUDBUY
Let’s hope the grieving mother has recorded her sessions with the Noose International crew. All they’ve done is manipulate a poor vulnerable person in the middle of her grief.
Anyone know the name of the person that’s been handling her? Whoever it is this is going to haunt them eventually.
that is the mother of a dead soldier that you are abusing to score political points.
fuck off you scum piece of shit.
rot in hell masterbaiter, rot in hell. your sins will haunt you until the day you die.
and when you get to hell you will suck satan’s cock for eternity.
Done the Mail comments already?
Don’t interrupt him, he’s busy all over the internet today.
So a grieving mother can’t have opinions,somebody must be manipulating her, as always another sick bunker excuse.
All news is manipulated – well the presentation of it is. Black is white and white is black with all hues in between. It depends on who is telling it. Don’t ever trust politicians ’tisall. EVER. (or the Sun)
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To MB.
Ragyed.
Two words for you mate.
Jennifers Ear.
You fuckers are as manipulative as they come. You’re just getting a taste of your own.
Told you it might not be a good idea to make an enemy of Mr Murdoch, didnt we?
“I do not want to interact in political debate.”
It is the right thing to do I am getting on with the job BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLSHIT BULLSHIT SELF SERVING WANK BLAH BLAH BLAH BULLSHIT.
The awful Nick Robinson saying that someone should have said to Brown;
“Prime Minister,that letter – perhaps you should do it again?”
Holy F*ck! The evil man is of such a poor calibre that we have to give him another chance to right to a bereaved mother after 25 spelling mistakes and writing over the man’s name!
This country must have a death wish for allowing him to stay in office.
MARCH NOW.
or even write!
He’s got me at it now!
He has absolutely no ability to contact with the general public. We now know why he is such a bad leader. He’s given himself away good and proper with his inadequate letter and even worse telephone call.
or even…
Have not read all of above so forgive me if already raised but what about Straws efforts to remove certain cases from the Coroners Courts and instead hold secure secret investigations of deaths where a Minister thinks it appropriate! All put in place after his efforts to have secret Inquests was thrown out! The man is the lowest creature on this planet. I watched some of the debate last night and nearly fell off my seat when he said something like “this will not be abused for Political gain the honourable members will just have to trust me on that – they know my track record” FFS . did not see how the vote finished though. Though I did watch long enough to hear a lady sitting next to hime order him to “keep talking” so that they reached the end of time alloted to the issue. After an hour or so debate the speaker then ruled that there could not be the vote on the amendment because they were out of time!!!! There was uproar until Straw – probably wanting to avoid examination of the tactic – said that he would allow a vote. I will be interested to see what Hansard says.
Jack the Straw is an abominable man. He knew perfectly well about rendition, but denied it, and he is Minister for justice – God preserve us!
Just read that Commons voted to allow secret inquiries and now it’s a battle between them and the lords. Fact is if this goes through Mrs Janes would probably never have known how her son died. This is what they want.
FUCKING DIDGRACE.
Sorry used Brown’s dictionary should have said FUCKING DISGRACE
He knows about a lot more than that, believe me.
McTwat bangs on about training the Afghan Police and Army taking over their own country’s internal security. Well they have had eight years to do something about that and have singularly failed largely because the Afghan’s only interest in the training is slanted to what’s in it for them in terms of drugs, sex, money, power over other Afghans, etc., etc. They have no real interest in becoming a modern democratic state. There’s nothing in that for them.
By contrast Guardsman Jamie Janes joined up in April 2009, less than 8 month’s ago, and was considered sufficiently and suitably trained for active service in a war zone where he was wounded and subsequently lost his life for lack of resources where they were most needed.
So for the Brits it’s join up, get sent to the world’s arsehole for reasons nobody understands, get shot and/or blown up, bleed to death in no time at all whilst the Afghan is armed, put under some form of training regime whislt he waits for NATO to get out of his country when he will join up with his favourite warlord and go back to business as usual.
And that keeps the streets of Britain safe, does it?
Do you ever listen to any of the Chief’s of Staff?
I think it was Lord Salisbury who said if he listened to the Chiefs of Staff for any length of time they’d be asking for resources to defend the Moon from attacks by Mars.
Car crash news conference at the same time as the £45 million couple were on the red button and 5000 jobs going at Llyods. All followed within minutes by the 6 bodies landing at RAF Lyneham and then Nick Robinson spouting the ‘it was everyone else’s fault for not checking his handwriting’ line fed to him by the spin doctors. Its all quite surreal
The first question by “Toenails” was an obvious previously discussed plant regarding the Janes telephone call. “Look – Nick – if you could just immediately broach this I’ll pick you first!” “Certainly Prime Minister and I’ll tell you what immediately after I’ll do a live piece to camera outside No10 blaming the staff inside. OK ?” “Thanks that’d be very helpful Nick and I’ll make sure you get the “exclusive” before Andy next time and Boulton can just take a running jump!”
Just sums up the dreadful world we live in – money,death,corruption,lying,and on and on.
If we could only get Brown out,at least it’s a start towards a country fit for the heroes who fight in our name.
I can’t fault your argument — until… whose next? oh yes, Cast Iron Dave. Hobsons Choice?
Would you be the one to tell him he had misspelt Miss janes name etc? Robinson is becoming an embarrassment and the way he says ‘tories’……..
How do you say tories?
Just say no.
McSnot says “toorees”.
Yvette Cooper suffers from verbal diarrhoea. In her interview on radio 4 this morning she managed to out talk both Evan Davis and Theresa May. Evan Davis just didn’t know how to handle a near bust up between two women.
Just add mud.
I’m afraid Evan was clearly a lightweight in that contest.
R4 Today is a hoot anyway. How long can you hog the microphone?
I have given up screaming shut the f… up nearly every day. Then they crash the pips.
Isn’t Evan famously light on his feet? Surprised he didn’t join in!
Ladyboy cow-balls “over talked” rather than out talked. She shouted, screeched and repeating her hectoring lines like a dervish on Afghan shit.
She and Horrid Harpic head the ratings as Liebour’s worst wimmin.
Vet!
I witnessed the great overtalk by Yvette on Newsnight, but this really took the biscuit on R4 Today. I think she’s had special training in this dubious skill. What a performance – pity the listener could only hear 1 word in a 100.
Congratulations Mrs Janes for hanging out to dry this Kircoddy piece of shite.
You have gone some way towards making people realise what motivates this apology of a man.
It is probably one of the few instances when he has been forced to answer rather than his usual evasion and we are all witness to the result.
You are referring to Prudence. Watch yer lip.
The current fiasco might do for him?
After a press conference like that, easily the worst I’ve ever seen anyone give, let alone a PM, Prick Robinson can only blame organisational failure at Downing St for a poor letter going out? What about the phone call Nick? What about Brown’s utter failure to deal with any straight question?
Oh, and what about his rather obvious stark staring lunacy?
Let’s be clear about where we are today folks. Today. In real life. We have a massive government campaign to rewrite reality by spamming every single media organisation, every phone in, every message board. We have tame journalists pumping out identical lines. We have the state broadcaster simply refusing to cover three quarters of the story. Oh and we’re in a war we shouldn’t be in. We’re facing, today, a massive upsurge in electronic surveillance. We’ve last week handed control of half our country to the EU, we yesterday handed planning decisions to an unaccountable quango.
Things are moving rather quickly towards a place I don’t want to fucking be in. This is what it looks like as a country moves towards totalitarianism.
No?
Well what *would* it look like, if not this? How would it differ?
This is good. We’ve moving towards an open fight.
Again and again,I am ready to march on London and demand HM Queen ejects Brown.
Peaceful but huge protest – imagine the world watching as 1 million Brits camp out on The Mall and refusing to go home until HM calls for Brown to resign for a General Election under emergency powers (cue the posts from “experts” on royal legalise…).
What prod,insult,upset,sin,lie or outrage does it need to make WE,The People,march in quiet but massive protest against this evil man and his cronies.
I’m with you !!!
Let me know when it starts and I’ll come back to the remains of the UK. I like a fight…
I’ll be robbing yer ‘ouse.
“We’ve last week handed control of half our country to the EU”
I assume you typed that on the basis that 1/2 was already under EU control.
By f*ck and it’s only Tuesday – forget Wilson’s “a week is a long time in politics”
For Brown, “a day is a long time in politics” – such is his curse on the world.
A week? A Day? With Imbecilius maximus, it is non fucking stop. and to think I gave up a good job with Micky D’s for this…..
Brilliant!
Oh fuck! Everyone has realised that I am totally full of shit, a bullying bullshit artist who doesn’t give a fuck about anyone but myself.
Shit! The game is up for me.
Time to step aside before a lynch mob gets hold of me and rips me apart.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1226236/Why-Gordon-Brown-middle-aged-men-away-jogging-pants.html
Pity we didn’t know gordon was going to have a photo op jog at 7am on this particular morning we could all have lined his route and jeered him as he went round.
When I yell “Move”, he had better – fast. When the boys with the piano wire and pitchforks arrive, we are OFF.
Did you see his legs?!!!!!!! Even under those track suit bottoms!!!! His knees were buckling, his jaw was buckling, and Oh those his dreadful out of date trainers! Even Sarky looks better than that!
what the fuck is an oul lad like that out jogging for?
Attention whore.
Wise up.
It could be that Brown actually believes he’s equipped the troops well. Which is perhaps the most disturbing take on this.
The real villains in this piece are the Labour party MPs who knew about Brown but still let him bludgeon his way into the highest office in the land.
so they could claim their expenses……
And, as I keep saying, that’s the question that *must* be answered. How did Brown get to this position? Why was he shoved forward as the only candidate? What is the story about his rise to power? A man with no talents, no friends, no charisma, no political sense. What can have taken a man like that, and put him in Number Ten? Given that we now *know* his early political backers were paid KGB assets, this question cannot be ignored any longer.
Yes. We need to know.
That’s the fact. the only people who can legally end this nightmare are the parliamentary Labour Party. Now, to even the most clueless person it has been obvious since the collapse of Northern Rock that the entire ‘boom’ was perched on nothing more than a pyramid of reckless borrowing perched on nothing more than the insane over-valuation of our houses.
Folk were in denial of this for years before the inevitable happened but now there is no doubt. And who was in the most denial? Why, the Maximum Imbecile himself. But now the cat is out of the bag there is no need to pretend the whole boom period was anything other than what it has proven to be. Reckless borrowing by the government and individuals. An utterly unsustainable la-la land.
And yet the Labour Parety continues to claim that no economies need to be made. That the pay-rises and massive recruitment of pointless government bedwetters since 2002 is sound economic policy and does not have to be unwound. And to prove it they’re going to borrow another 200bn quid this year just to pay ‘em all until things blow over.
There ain’t going to be a ‘blowing over’. It’s unsustainable. Everybody knows it. including all those Labour MPs and yet they’re content for personal and political reasons to squander another 200bn quid just to pretend that when the Tory party makes the inevitable cuts and tax hikes that it is ‘cos they (the Tories) are evl and not ‘cos they (Labour) have utterly fucked the economy.
200bn quid extra just so they don’t have to admit they made a mistake.
Bastards.
I am sick to death of all this “its because he is nearly blind” crap.My father is
completely blind but he can write a letter without any spelling mistakes by using a computer with specialist software.
Brown is a cnut and will always be a cnut.
Listening to the conversation Brown tries to bully the lady but she was not having any of it.
But not a hand written letter in his own hand.
then he should not have hand written the letter, now should he masterbaiter?
it should have been dictated and signed.
oh dear, you have just painted yourself into a corner.
you dopey c’unt.
brown hand wrote the letter to spin that he cared.
his scrawl and bad spelling prove he does not.
brown is finished.
If its hand written he cant be blind can he.The writing and spelling looks like the scrawl of someone with limited intelligence telling the milkman that he wants 2 pints today.
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Look it up Baiter. Go to the rear of the bunker, you’ll find a copy of JSP751.
Chapter1 Subsection 8. Look under the bit where it says “Ministers”, section 0121, if I recall correctly.
Established procedure. He just thought he was better. Man’s a cock.
I see some newspaper commentators, those on gordon’s side are trying to twist the story by saying that Mrs Janes has been used by The Sun.
She has not been used, she has used the media effectively to strike a very well-placed public blow for the Armed Services and their need for more men, more helicopters and proper equipment. And she has done it whilst grieving for her son. I think she is a very brave lady and I salute her.
Unfortunately gordon, who never forgives a slight, will now wheel out his spin and smear machine to try and discredit her.
Good to see you up and about Nell.
Let’s march.
She better not even think about taking a walk in the country…
Whats the latest betting on Brown quitting before Xmas? Is the letter a psy op to stoke up the health issue,thus providing him with a get out.I can’t believe he’s going to fight an election knowing he will be humiliated.
Never ever underestimate – Hubris and Self-deceit. It’s what socipaths do best !!
I am right and everyone else is wrong says Brown I am a grossly misunderstood intellectual titan !
Trust me – Brown will be there at the very end as the SS Labour Party sinks slowly and ungracefully below the waves of public odium in the election.
Gordons eye number 1
Snot tae chew, number 2
Wasnae me, number 3
Number 4, Mandy’s whore
Semen
You shitebag!
You fearty Stalinist shitebag!!
You fearty Stalinist Robbo receiving shitebag!!!
What’s wrong if you were named after a character in Captain Pugwash?
159Anne Onimouse says:
November 10, 2009 at 9:52 am
I was driving along a quiet road in Scotland during the summer and the driver of a passing Jag looked liked Mr Brown. I flicked the V’s just in case.
loved the post
on the subject at hand
im not bothered about 24 spelling mistakes–but the 25th his NAME–is UNFORGIVABLE
Well it couldn’t have been Brown driving….he can’t drive!
Although, if I were you spotting a man with only a failing half of one good eye, driving a Jag on the twisties, I would have found a way off the road pretty quick!!!
Shambles and disgrace. When can the Queen demand his resignation?
OT – Guido – can we have something on the Jack Straw debacle last night as Labour attempt to erode more libertarian values with secret hearings for suspicious death inquiries?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-forces-secret-inquests-bill-through-the-commons-1817711.html
Just how spineless (with the notable exception of Bob Marshall-Andrews seemingly) are the governing party?
Does this mean that if the Bill was law 7 years ago, the David Kelly hearing would have been behind closed doors?
Yes and as I say above Mrs Janes would probably have known nothing of the circumstances of her son’s death. Straw is the lowest of the low.
He’s much lower than that!
Might as well have been anyway. It just doesn’t matter any more. When you can have an Iraq war ‘enquiry’ that exonerates Blair and has the BBC fire the reporter and the DG despite all the evidence even at the time pointing to the fact that they (Gilligan and Kelly) were right then it matters not a jot if they simply formalise the whitewashing process by holding such enquiries in private.
It’s fucked. The only sanction we have is to withold our labour. Refuse to work. Refuse to pay tax to support this bunch of murderous criminal bastards that have hi-jacked the UK government.
Just watch what happens when tax goes up to 50% (51% with the NI). Just watch the high earners melt away.
Yes and isn’t that strange because there are legal moves afoot to have a Coroner’s hearing into Dr David Kelly’s death and according to something I read a few weeks ago the lawyers are hopeful that they will succeed.
Are straw and labour trying to hush up the Dr Kelly affair all over again?
Why did Nick Robinson blame the PM’s advisors for the letter. Gordon wrote it FFS!!!
And it was Gordon who scared of the Sun’s headlines wast stupid enough to phone a mother late at night who blamed him for the death of her son to try and convince her otherwise.
Nick it is no one elses fault. You are as bad as Gordon trying to pass the blame on.
Come on, we can hardly expect the PM of this country to be able to spell, write and exercise judgment on the appropriate nature of his actions can we?
BTW more evidence of his judgment, AAA rating on verge of being withdrawn:-
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=amATYJjt.4y0
Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) — The U.K.’s sovereign credit rating is most at risk among top-rated nations, Fitch Ratings said, citing concern over the country’s budget deficit.
The rating faces risks because the U.K. needs “the largest budget adjustment,” David Riley, head of global sovereign ratings at Fitch, said in an e-mailed statement. “Our stable rating outlook reflected our expectation that the U.K. government will articulate a stronger fiscal consolidation program next year.”
Gordon Brown says I take full responsibility for the letter to Mrs Janes and that is why I have sacked the No10 post Clerk – It IS the right thing to do !!
Come on brothers .Lets talk about something else to keep our boss out of the news.Lets be honest,we dont give a f–k about the loss of gordons cannon fodder
What about emulating the BBC and going with the £45.5 million Lottery Winners ??
Milliband wants to climb into Gorgon’s shoes.
Milliband Jr will be as much an asset to Britain as Grand daddy Milliband was to Poland.
Gordon Brown never does nuffink wrong. He is perfect and his arsehole tastes perfect I should know I rim it every day and all night long. Sarah and her turkery baster can’t get a look in when I am rimming Gordon’s arsehole.
I just can’t get enough of the taste of Gordon’s ringpiece.
Yum Yum.
I am a New Labour Propagandist pretending to be a journalist and in return for carrying out propaganda for the New Labour War and Torture Party Gordon let’s me lick his arsehole clean of shit.
Thank you Gordon I love you. You are my master.
masterbaiter you know i read your posts with an open mind, but you are being an atypical socialist/idiot. Always blame the fucking messenger. How can you phone a grieving Mother and argue with her, he never gave up a single point.
That conversation gets played on sky the evening before the next election and brown and your beloved labour party are going to be fucking history. Brown was disgusting.
That call wasn’t anything about a grieving Mother and everything about a damage limitation exercise, that as usual with brown showed a lack of empathy, a crass lack of judgement, and an overall feeling the bloke may be comfortable with statistics and numbers, but has absolutely no idea about people.
brown should have stayed the faceless official he really is. No other country breeds so many faceless officials, and boy when we get one are they good at it.
That call will be the end of brown
It may or it may not. The recording on the Noose International link does not include the whole conversation. It may well be that there are more sensitive responses and comments from Brown that have been excluded, who knows?
Also there may be recordings of the dialogue between the Noose International editorial staff and Mrs Janes, who knows?
brown is finished masterbaiter.
you are debasing yourself and wasting your time defending the lying c’unt.
tat, best get out of bed with Murdoch and his Noose International makers of Focks Noose.
murdoch is an old man who will soon be dead, he is a wanker, like you.
but you are a new labour warrior and your party was AS THICK AS THIEVES with the sun newspapaper when they supported the new labour war party.
so it is far too rich for you to be accusing others of what you yourself are guilty of when the new labour war party has been sucking murdoch’s cock for the last decade, innit?
you fucking stupid c’unt.
you lose I win.
tat, get out of bed with Murdoch, loser.
However, Murdoch has been more than good enough to be your mouthpiece over the past twelve years.
No questions asked.
If he is that bad,you have kept strangely quiet about it until quite recently.
Your lot have exploited the media in a number of unpleasant ways -having let that genie out of the bottle, expect no sympathy from the public or mercy from the press.
You reap what you sew.
Just give up now, MB.
The Sun is on Gordoom’s case, and his doom is now even more assured than it was before. (That also applies for Nulabour- and indeed yourself.)
In comparison, your feeble ramblings “are like grass – the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more.”
Damian, you might be out of a job by Christmas if Finchley Catholic High School catch you posting from their computers, who knows?
Indeed
Wanker Baiter go back to the Sun site and listen to the second FULL recording that’s also available, you can hear Snotarse hang up at the end so forget anymore pathetic spinning for the unspeakable monster.
He’s a dead parrot nailed to his perch for a few more weeks until you’re all ready to be buried alive in lime forever, communist schmucks.
If we are not carefull Brown make take his ball home and then where would we be?
Hi
I fink evrybody is being unfair to Gordun Brown.
It dont matter that e is illit…….
can’t spell
I am happy to no that e and Peter Mentelsun r busy getting on wiv the job
and savin the wurld from them nasti tories.
The woman shuld fank brown for bovvering to right to her
Wonder how much the Sun is paying her? Most of us make some spelling mistakes in handwritten letters – all this proves is that Brown actually writes them.
don’t abuse the mother of a dead soldier with your nasty unfounded gossip.
you nonce.
She is setting up a fund for bereaved relatives, and not taking any money for herself.- Sun Editor just now.
thanks for that BFC. as I thought, neil craig is a lying new labour c’unt.
fuck off neil and don’t come back.
Your website is sooo fuckin boring.
Tractor stats all-over it!!!!!
What a pile of shit this tossers blog is – have a look – a total load of utter bollocks
Thank you for your detailed and eloquent analysis.
As a leading coprophile, I’m sure substantial thought will be afforded to your….ahem…outpourings.
Sun’s not paying her anything at all. New Pol Ed just said so on DP. Willing to donate to her foundation to help families who find themselves in the Janes’ position when she sets it up.
See also: Tat’s comment.
Your comment is despicable.
Firstly,The Sun have said that not a penny has been paid…OK,that’s open for interpretation..perhaps thay have paid into the fund for bereaved relatives.
But,frankly,how can you even try to justify the excrutiating letter and its grammar?
The worst spelling error..’cumfort’????
We are entitled to think that our Prime Minister should have mastered some basic English Language..this is 6 year old stuff.
If you are on the payroll,you should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to brush this to one side.
That’s ‘they’ btw.
mmm. How much are you getting paid for this? Is the taxpayer footing the bill?
Lets get this right, shes just buried her 20 year old son but shes playing up the grief for money?
New Labour wonks are truely vile.
Enjoy your last 6 months in power while you can
Fucking troll. Hope you choke on Charlies 30 pieces of silver you judas c.unt.
Phil Woolas making excuses for the gorgon on Politics with Brillo NOW.
Ahhh – Philip Woolas -5 minutes with this moron and a couple of Gurkha’s – when theyhave finished,he won’t only be clueless,he will be tongue less
The last time I saw WoolyArse in person he was sat on top of a bus shelter by Westminster Bridge identifying protestors to Plod – that was the student grants demo back in the 80s where we blocked the bridge with a sit down. I was an anarchist back then but now have softened into a middle-aged libertarian.
He’ll lose more than his tongue if I catch up with the grassing bastard…
[...] Will it be Sarah that tells Gordon to quit? As James Forsyth says, in the Spectator’s politics blog, Gordon is on the rack. Meanwhile The Sun recorded Gordon’s conversation yesterday with Mrs Janes, mother soldier killed in Afghanistan, and Guido has the transcript of Gordon’s converstaion to read online. [...]
For once I’m in agreement with the Sun!
Woolas complaining about how politics is reported in the press, oh the fucking irony after 12 years of deliberate press manipulation.
note to phil woolas: if you cannot take the heat then fuck off out of it you useless c’unt.
Woolas banged on about the contradictory reporting of the Mega Data Base, then there was no follow up on from Neil on what the government’s position was.
Woolas dug a hole for himself and Al Beeb let the bastard off.
The BBC: letting Labour bastards off; it’s what we do.
Fuckin A, TAT.
Would this be the pres that uncritically helped in the complete rewriting of economic history after the bank bailout as per their written briefing from Number 10?
Mathew Taylor, Mathew Taylor, Mathew Taylor, ……Isn’t there anyone else who can make ’so-called’ comments about politics for the BBC?
Matthew Taylor was exposed by GF a while ago.
Using his student union Marxist techniques he took over the sleepy RSA by The Strand and took it from being a very old institution supporting commerce and manufacturing and turned it into a marxist/blairite think tank, funded by handing out fellowships to every ‘disadavantaged’ councillor and ‘activist’ in the country. The RSA’s mission statement is now ‘removing the barriers to social progress’.
For ‘Mr Sofa Government’ himself it is the sinecure of sinecures. Keeping the Blairite candle warm. Just note the number of political speeches being made ‘to the RSA’. something that will go exponential when the Labour leadership campaign begins.
But the real deal is that the RSA’s royal status depends on it being apolitical. I urge everybody to write to the Duke of Edinburgh and demand that either Taylor removes himself from politics or Taylor is removed from the RSA.
And if neither, ‘Royal’ should be removed from the name.
What a c*nt.
The Daily Politics: “Most emails and texts to the BBC support Gordon.”
Beyond satire
new labour uses the same tactic as the bn p by organising to flood particular programmes to give a false impression as to their level of support.
the bbc must be a bunch of dumb motherfuckers not to figure that one out.
the bbc really is a sinister organisation.
The BBC are the ones whose ‘contributors’ have now branched out to flood the other on-line forums (fora?) with their socialist misinformation.
No change there then!!
Now they will be going for the messenger with the whole of the party propaganda machine, this could get nasty!!
Well we saw the “in field” testing of all the lines from the trolls here yesterday, didn’t we ? Same old same old trotted out on the Beeb this morning.
Unlike here, where they were rumbled in two minutes flat, AlJaBeeba don’t have the intelligence or inclination to put obvious trolling under any sort of scrutiny.
What a load of old shite.
They probably missed off the second part “…being hung by his neck with piano wire from a Whitehall lamp-post with his severed goolies in his gob”
He should be proud, very proud, because he would have got an A* ‘A’ level in English Language for that letter.
“I always wanted to be a Prime Mentalist, now I are one”
Listening to the phone call it seems he has difficulty speaking in English let alone writing it:-
‘if you feel that my writing was not right’
‘I think I think I was trying to say Janes, as your right name’
was not correct, correct name.
D- Mr Brown.
Bottom of the fucking class.
PMQs – 3 pm tomorrow !!
Won’t be covered, Cameron will not associate himself with it.
Daily Politics – 2pm start
Sorry, just meant that this letter/phone call will not be covered in the questions.
I accept your point masterbaiter, and the general precept that the sun is using. Nontheless the call was crass, ill-judged. All the guy needed to do was to listen. The cold fact is there is never enough equipment, not ever. The guys fighting these wars are ill-equiped, fact, and brown arguing they are not was cruel.
He is the prime minister, he’s the fall back guy. He’s the guy when all else fails, saves the situation. He’s the leader, at the charge of the light brigade he’s the guy on the leading horse, first in, last out.
The fact is he is none of these, and the party that keeps insisting that he is are going to pay dearly for it
The fact is he doesn’t know what to do and his advisors are crap !!
Even when he tries to do “the right thing” – it vaporises !!
BRING ON THE ELECTION
Question is when did we ever have the right equipment?
Enough helicopters — Falklands? I don’t think so.
The Army and the MOD are riddled with petty jealousies and pet projects.
People buying stuff not based on military need but future career development when they move into the private sector
These are the issues that need to be addressed.
That and the upper middle class welfare state that the MOD / Army supports.
How much money is being wasted putting the sprogs of the offcer corps through private schools?
I wonder when that will be debated in the media
Probably never given who benefits.
Trevor over at the Speccy = Check
GP-W ex Scum = Check
Deal with the big issues and leave the poor woman to grieve in peace.
It is a form of pornography to make public private grief.
Who wins in all this?
Suddenly you’re worried about making private grief public? What about pushy Blair and his missus inviting themselves to Lady Di’s funeral for political reasons?
It just gets worse and worse.
Ex queen in waiting cops it in tragic circumstances.
Two young boys left without a mother in full public glare.
Why shouldn’t there be an outpouring of public grief?
She had already taken enough shite from “any royal cock will do” and her mentalist grandson with an unhealthy appetite for another man’s munter.
If her brother had added in a paragraph on strming the gates at Buck House into his eulogy there would have been a revolution.
Why shouldn’t the PM of the day and his wife go to the funeral?
If they hadn’t gone you would have the first to criticise.
That reminds me, GB’s big problem is that he doesn’t have a wife like TB’s so that the easily led libertarian shite can divide the hate between two targets.
Grow up, Semen is growing rich on the back of your anger.
Easily led libertarian shite…?? No doubt you’ve got your “access all areas” ID card already. You defend a PM nobody voted for, you’ve screwed the taxpayer to pay bankers bonuses, you spy, cheat, lie, assuming the “people” are simply your meal ticket, your means to power and control. Your ends are futile, your means beneath contempt -and you think “libertarians” are easily led??
You have the arrogance of a true “socialist” my friend. Your long march through the institutions has paid off – and is ending in absolute fucking disaster.
Its certainly true that the infantry units in the army have always been underfunded, I remember my grandfather, a bren gunner in the 2nd world war being amazed at seeing footage of soldiers boarding troop ships for the Falklands, carrying the self same bren guns on board.
However Brown has made a career out of deliberately underfunding the defence budget, and refusing demands for extra cash in order to make a political point to Blair about who holds the purse strings.
There is also no doubt Brown dislikes the military as it is traditionally establishment conservative organistation, the reorganization of the regiments underlined Labour’s clear wish to ‘break’ it, as it has tried to break every aspect of society it sees as backward, including the English people as a whole.
The present state of the infantry, the present lack of helicopters and even basic equipment like correct boots for somewhere like Afghanistan is therefore down to him.
oh fuck off baiter, trying a different log in with that fucking officers sprogs boarding school shite.
The reason there wasnt enough fucking choppers in the falklands is cos most of them went to the bottom of the sea on the Atlantic Conveyor when she was hit by an exocet. All except one, Bravo November, which is still in Afghan!
Oh Christ. Mickey Shite’s woken up on Sky.
Unfortunately the Scum has revived the well worn Tory classic with another episode of “Gallipolli Wives – The Helicopter Diaries”.
The people who are working this woman’s grief for political ends really are the scum of the earth.
Closely behind come the fellow travellers in the media who piggy back on this.
Where Oh where were the grieving mothers after the various shambles in the Falklands?
There were enough grieving mothers.
There were enough military shambles.
There were enough shameful stories.
My favourite was the workies sent down south with redundancy notices in their pockets – encapsulates the Thatcher years perfectly for me.
The question then is, what was missing from all the above?
A press with an agenda to destroy the government of the day.
Consequently snarl all you like libertarian shite.
You are being used by the Great News Corp over the water.
I suppose the main thing missing was the popularity and easy understanding of the war, the Falklands were fought to recover British territory, and the conflict itself was short and successful.
Renault People Carrier
Tell that to the survivors of HMS Sheffield?
Tell that the “H” Jones’ widow.
Tell that to the Welsh Guards
If you have a compliant press you can do anything.
That includes lose Britsh territory to a bunch of goose stepping student torturers and then hope that the Navy can pull a rabbit out a hat.
Sunny Jim manages to keep the Argies out the Falklands twice and the yahoos out of Belize ion his watch and what happens when Maggie gets involved, the Falklnads and Grenada.
Oh well, she has a tame Aussie to help in the press so everything is OK.
I am not sure a compliant press comes into it, almost all the press with the exception of a small left wing element support the war in Afghanistan, including the Sun, yet polls show 2 thirds of the British people want the troops out.
Fuck off Archie.
If you’re upset because one newspaper has turned on Brown then try and imagine what it’s been like spending 12 years in the country while Brown and Balir got a free ride from the press and BBC while manifestly implementing policies that were completely fucking the UK economy.
Imagine watching that fuckwit Brown every fucking budget day declare he was going to borrow another 35bn quid this year in the middle of a boom and wondering why it was that the papers weren’t taking him apart for his financila idiocy.
Now we know it was all ‘access’ and ‘patronage’ that kept these so-called journalists eating Labour shit and uncritically reprinting it as ‘fact’. But the damage is done. National debt of one trillion quid nailed on by these incompetent arseholes and now I’m supposed to give a shit because one paper has turned on the whores?
I’ll only be content when Ben Elton and Spitting Image are resurrected and giving it 100% anti-Labour 24 hours a day until the election.
Like they were in 1997.
jgm2 That was pathetic, honestly pathetic.
There is an institutional problem in defence, that’s NLJD’s point, dimwit!
I thought JGM2 was rather on the nail with that one.
And breath, and breath …
If only your grasp of economics was as good as your understanding of TV.
One year out on the demise of Spitting Image, the economics?
Well where to start, £35bill deficit in the middle of a boom.
Pray tell when was that?
I know we missed the 2001 recession but the boom must have passed me by.
More a case of much needed public investment to make up for the 18 wasted years of Maggie and Shagger.
Consequently away and throw shite at yersel, ya trumpet.
Go on, have your last gasp and fucking die. You’re lot won’t get back into government for a generation, if ever.
Keyboard Hard Man
Put up or shut up.
Either you can’t work the blog or you don’t have the balls to identify yourself.
What is is?
Shitebag or useless tawt?
Your call.
said the cripple who was too frightened to say which party he supported.
you’re just an asshole NLJD.
NLJD – New Labour Jissum Drinker
You gormless commie tosser, get the feck off my planet asshole!
Thank you for revisiting 1982. Care to comment on the injustices of 1997-2009?
Strange that -the Sun seemed more than good enough for you until 2009,no questions asked.
Please explain what the press were doing between 1995-7 if they were not ‘ A press with an agenda to destroy the government of the day’
You launched the attack dogs -don’t be surprised if your arse gets bitten.
Petrograd secret agent
You forget about the Tory civil war over the EU.
That was the reason that the press turned against Shagger.
The Scum only changed when the result was inevitable.
It was TB’s lack of confidence that made it into a big issue / major coup for the party.
If only they had said great, now can we have the truth about Hillsborough he would have kept them at arms length and won some praise from his core vote.
could’ve would’ve should’ve.
too late for all your bullshit now.
fuck off wanker.
“Unfortunately the Scum has revived the well worn Tory classic with another episode of “Gallipolli Wives – The Helicopter Diaries”.”
Unfortunately for you, you twat.
Baiter, you and your fellow travellers spent the last 12 years sucking Murdoch’s dick.
You’re getting a taste of your own.
It fucking serves you right. Lie down with dogs and you get fleas.
Your bleating and whining at being found out is pathetic.
You c.unts are finished.
Scenic, dead right, Leave this one well alone, the sun seems to be managing quite well on it’s own
Ive never liked Brown and still dont and the way the letter to greiving parents has got out of hand is his fault. The problem with Brown is thathe has surrounded himself with yes men/women, all sycophants to a man/woman.
He could have done the letter in crayon and they would have said, ‘very good prime minister’! There isnt anyone keeping a weather eye on him, which is why he has got himself in this situation. The thoughts are maybe well meaning, but is lost in the attrocious writing and spelling. Blaming the writing quality on him having one eye is just a sop. There are people with 2 eyes that write just as bad!
I also find it strange that Mrs Janes just happened to have some freinds with her when she took the call and that one of the freinds just happened to have a PDA. Anyway they are perfectly entitled to record. But its another thing for the SUN to start twisting in on this.
By the way allthough it maybe legal to record phone convesations, you may find that you need to advise the other person that your recording
Hence when calling Banks/Insurance co’s et al that you get the ‘your phone call may be recorded for training purposes etc etc’ at the start.
I have a pda i carry it all the time because its my phone as well, so no mystery there! if she knew he was going to phone at 10 on a sunday then you may have a point but she didn’t so the fecks that bit up and she’s just lost here son who the feck do you think would be visiting? her the bloody candle stick maker ?
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT A CRAP PAPER THE SUN AND ITS EDITOR ARE.
IM NO FAN OF GORDON BROWN, BUT I HAVE EVEN LESS FOR MRS JAMES [SIC] AND THE SUN.
Fuck off Master Meatbeater.
So does putting the caps lock on make you feel big and hard ?.
The War Widows Assiciation comes out in support of our PM Gordon Brown, in a time when we need national unity.
Clearly the cynical exploitation of a mother’s grief at the loss of her soldier son in defence of our country’s interest is not going down too well in middle England.
These dirty tricks by The Sun can only backfire.
Iain Dale stays well out of it.
Guido is the usual disgrace.
The Sun fights dirty, it always has and its always worked, they did it for Thatcher and Major, did it for Blair, I think the crazed response by Labour’s spin machine now losing control of the media and reduced to posting on blogs and newspaper comment sections shows how worried they are by this.
What will the Sun do during the election campaign one wonders.
They’re shitting themselves. 7 more months to go of this shitstorm, serve the lying, spinning fuckers right. They don’t like it up ‘em.
All the right notes oboe, keep the opus playing. The commie scum are heading for the non-recyclable bin.
‘The War Widows Assiciation comes out in support of our PM Gordon Brown, in a time when we need national unity’
Link please?
Whilst you and your kind have been busy making the lives of the average citizen ever more difficult for years, when did you start giving a fuck about national unity or middle England,or ‘hard working’ families,or the military?
Would that be whilst you were taxing us to the hilt, underfunding the services or selling us to the EU without a referendum?
Hypocrite.
It is totally disgraceful and utterly unprecedented that our leaders are under such continual attack for cynical party political advantage.
No matter what one’s internal political preference this treachery will find itself on the losing side.
Cameron and his Eton boys will find that very few will be supportive of what they’re up to.
And make no mistake, this is louche amoral Eton boys against the great mass of the British public!
Troll !! and a really bad one at that! god is that play school politics the best you can do ? oh and are you saying everyone who went to Eton is bad ?
That link you were after. Its at the bottom of the story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8352041.stm
I read a great article in The Times once, about right wing voters.
It’s a mind set. They don’t have the subtle intelligence levels to be reasoned, and take in more than one point of view, so they get drawn to rabid, one sided titles like The Sun, Guido and The Mail.
In a similar vein, if they see anything that contravenes this one sided “attack” format, they deem it to be biased, or some sort of conspiracy.
Fools on here, claiming that about 300 different Mail reader accounts (easily 80-90% of all comments) are Labour plants.
You’d make a great case study.
Now and again the ranting tory right of morons, misfits, and retards get exposed for what they really are.
Agenda driven loonys who will attack anything.
The problem being, if you attack everything with the same verocity, no matter how petty – then eventually your opinion becomes “neutral”.
This website serves staunch tory voters. It would take someone with an IQ of about 5 to come on here, as an “undecided” and decide to base their vote on such agenda driven garbage.
The Sun has just stepped into this world. And has become politically neutral. Nobody will ever trust their opinion again.
hahahahah god its like lord of the rings with all these well spoken trolls on here ! i hope you are saving what they are paying you! as you only have 6 months for that one way trip to Cuba !.
Keep spinning kiddo.
Red, yellow or blue, it makes no difference. You’re all a shower of theiving, sneaky, devious, deceitful, lying bastards.
Now go ahead and take your ball home. I don’t care. I’m not interested in playing stupid games with such wastes of DNA.
One thought occurred, if his writing is so bad then why did he not get his wife to write the letters (presuming her writing is better). It could be just as personal and perhaps even more suitable when written to the widow or mother of a serviceman who has been killed.
That Gordon Brown fellow’s a complete prune in my view. Like the rest of his useless government.
But frankly, the way the Sun is exploiting good people’s losses makes me hesitate to wipe myself down with it after a biological exchange.
I post on the Mail board all the time. Both positively or negatively, dependent on my feeling on the story.
As in, democracy, and freedom of speech.
The assertation by weirdos on here that people backing Gordon Brown (it’s a vast minority every single time I should add) are doing so as they somehow work for Labour.
You know, it’s a classic example of the right wing mindset. And why you actually like moronic, one sided web sites like this and the mail.
You really can’t handle debate. Or differing point of views.
You’ve missed the point, Labourite.
After 12 years of spin and deception, people now *expect* any skulduggery to be the result of Labour machinations.
Nothing to do with a right-wing mindset.
Oh, and I think you’ll find it’s Brown who’s the ‘weirdo’…
Why should anyone give a stuff? If you don’t like it you know what you can do. You want debate? This is not the site for you, sunshine. Read what’s written on the can.
Fuck off Bryant.
Sir, please follow me to claim your five pounds.
:)
This is the problem you see. You spent the last 12 years manipulating the press, resorting to every under hand trick in the book.
Is it any wonder that there are people out there who will believe that you are capable of ANYTHING to further your own ends?
You reap what you sow and this shitstorm is coming to get you.
There’s a great post in the thread “The Sun: shameful and shameless” on LabourList that sums up Labour and it’s supporters.
“…a bitter and vindictive woman wanting to have a go. “
I think the shrieking left wing lunatics have bombarded all the boards, but they’ve completely ignored the fact she made some very valid points about equipment.
Which Brown of course, completely denies.
And FFS, how long are they going to keep banging on about his eyesight. Look, he’s either able to do the job, or not. If he is, the eye isn’t an issue, so stop mentioning it.
It his lack of brainpower, not eyesight that should be the problem.
No-one excused Blunkett’s howlers because of his eyesight (mistresses aside).
Just when you think Murdoch can’t get any sleazier. How does he follow this? Buy the corpse for a photo spread? Coulson’s legacy is alive and well.
Why is it Murdoch’s fault that Brown can’t be bothered to spell somebody’s name right?
Or provide troops with the right equipment? Is that News International’s fault too?
BIG BREASTS! and harrowing photographic evidence of our troops being slaughtered in a War we fuilly support because we are braindead idiots
the right fucking equipment
Puuuuuhhhleeeease
Maybe Brown should have bought that ACME bloody intractable insurgency and quagmire fixer from Wily Coyote instead of Trident, the Aircraft Carriers and the Eurofighters then ?
Except it doesn’t exist
Much like an end to the slaughter, carnage and corruption in this vietnam style idiocy
Send your best ideas to the Sun Jimmy, and cut out the middleman FFS.
From the Grauniad today:
Murdoch was asked in an interview with Sky News Australia about his relationship with his editors and the extent to which he shaped his papers’ editorial standpoint, claiming he played less of a role than was thought.
“The editors in Britain for instance have turned very much against Gordon Brown, who is a friend of mine. I regret it.”
Asked if he therefore did not support the papers’ views, the chairman and chief executive of News Corporation replied: “No, I think they’re probably right that he has been a disappointment as a prime minister.
“He has been an unlucky man. But you know the end of 13 years of one-party rule, the idea of change is probably good.”
UNLUCKY?
We’re the fucking unlucky ones having this freak in control, ruining the country, squandering billions on failed banks (whicj he encouraged) and financing needless and bloody wars.
I’ll give you unlucky you antipodean twat.
When Rupe was working in London and had his hands on the tiller he was also far more in touch with what his readers – the “folks” – were thinking.
Now that he’s living on another planet for tax reasons, he’s completely lost touch, especially if he thinks that Broon and his slimey stinking bunch of marxist rabble are anything else but hated, despised and loathed by most of the population of this country, labour supporters included.
Darren Chant was born in Walthamstow on 5 September 1969. He completed his basic training at the Guards Depot, Pirbright, in 1986 and was deployed to South Armagh, Northern Ireland, in 1993.
After an attachment to the Pathfinder Platoon from 1997 to 1999, he returned to the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards before being posted to the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst (RMAS) as a Colour Sergeant instructor until 2003. At Sandhurst WO1 (RSM) Chant quickly made a name for himself with his straight-talking, no nonsense approach to training and soldiering.
After two years at Sandhurst, WO1 (RSM) Chant rejoined the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards. As the Company Sergeant Major of Inkerman Company he deployed to Bosnia from September 2004 to June 2005 as part of NATO’s, and latterly the European Union’s, peacekeeping operation.
On return from Bosnia he was posted back to RMAS as a Company Sergeant Major from August 2005 until December 2006 where he met his future wife. After a year at RMAS he returned to the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards, firstly as a Liaison Officer for the battalion while deployed to Afghanistan on Operation HERRICK 6 in 2007.
On return to the UK he took up the post of Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (Technical). In the summer of 2008 he was appointed Sergeant Major and moved with the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards to London and on to pre-deployment training. In September 2009 he deployed to Afghanistan on Operation HERRICK 11 as the Sergeant Major of the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards on operations at the town of Nadi Ali in central Helmand.
Instead of returning, however, Darren Chant, was this weekend being honoured on Remembrance Sunday as yet another casualty of the war in Afghanistan.
RSM Chant leaves behind three children from his first marriage and a grieving widow who is carrying his unborn child. He died last Tuesday at the hands of an Afghan policeman believed to be called Gulbuddin, who turned on him and four other British soldiers who were also killed when they were resting in a compound.
In an interview with the Evening Standard, Darren Chant’s mother Elizabeth said his wife had to send the London-born Grenadier guardsman a duvet because he was not given adequate bedding to cope with the bitterly cold Afghan nights.
“My son said Afghanistan was a living hell. They need more of everything, more equipment, more troops, more rifles and more clothes and boots which fit properly.
“Gordon Brown is a joke. He should never have been put in power. Darren’s wife had to send him a duvet – bought out of her own pocket – because it was so cold at night”.
http://archipelago-of-truth.blog.co.uk/2009/11/09/rsm-darren-chant-7334885/
This has got to stop.
Comments like this will make the Army a laughing stock.
What next, it will only go into battle if it has a police escort?
Another poor grieving woman used by the press.
I am no fan of The Sun but they have been doing a lot to support British servicemen in recent times so it is no surprise that they are highlighting this mother’s story. To accuse them of exploiting her is ridiculous and smells of Downing Street spin, lets hope she is not found under a tree with her wrists cut for crossing ZanuLab.
The Scum supports our boys?
What do our boys need, apart from leadership and tactics, equipment?
How are we going to pay for it when NI gets all exotic about its tax arrangements.
NI takes our money quick enough but wants everyone else to pay their tax.
Hypocrisy of the highest order, hey but thats the Scum for you.
Ask the right questions and you will understand.
Did I or did I not hear The SnotGobbler say “Two more questions and we must stop there because the FIVE dead soldiers bodies will be arriving at
Wooton Basset” He is even massaging the number of coffins.
I wish he was in one.
To think that some of the nutcases on here voting UKIP are giving this tosspot a chance of remaining to haunt us for another five years,get out vote tory and consign labour new and old to the oblivion they so richly deserve.
Agree totally.
Farage and Co have every right to stand but if people think a protest vote on Europe is more important than getting rid of NL then they deserve another 5 years of Brown destroying the economy,Stasi surveillance and all his other achievements.
“have every right to stand ”
Well, that’s generous of you.
Grow up you t*sser
So what do you think Caneron is actually going to do ?
Probably not much.
But thats because your boss has pissed away all the money leaving Cameron with debt repayments and PFI liabilities that that will dwarf the budgets for education, defence, transport etc anyway
Anythings got to be better than this.
Nothing new!
Run the country why what do you think ? kill kittens? burn old folk ? .
Some shitbag from Labour HQ (he rings in a lot pretending not to be a Liebour supporter) rang into to the Vicki Pollard show on Radio 5 claiming that Mrs Janes was wrong and that there were now more than enough helicopters in Afghanistan and she should shut up as she does not know what she’s talking about.
This would be a woman who has another Son in the army and the family has had 5 generations serving in the forces and know that Liebour have shafted the military.
The Labour Hoon that rang in is probably only into fucking small boys up the arse, snorting Cocaine with BBC presenters and arse licking Muslims
That Celt Kunt Nicky Campbell is almost in tears the way ‘is ‘ero McDoom is being treated.
Who feels sorry when the bully is bullied? A massive Celt Kunt that’s ooo
And I am unanimous on that
Spot on, for years the fucking one eyed cowardly jock mong had his goons terrorising anyone in the Liebour party that opposed him, he tired to fuck Blair at every opportunity and NOW the BBC thinks we should be sorry for this fucking halfwit.
Fuck off and die Brown, you’re not wanted.
Always remember what that BBC gobshyte, Jane Garvey said of post election night ‘97.
‘When I came into work that morning I was struck by the empty Champagne bottles everywhere’.
I loathe the worthless, vermin who infest this pointless corporation.
NUJ – contributors to the Labour lie machine.
How can the workers of the free press be allowed to contribute to a political party???
Those who live by the sword…….No sympathy from me. Sooner gone completely from the political scene the better.
Ere we go, two three four….
Lol – and how many people do you think will get a Jilted John reference?
These odious turds in government are determined to ensure the mess they leave next year will take generations to sort out, the way that Mrs Janes is being treated for speaking out is typical of their arrogance.
Marxists have always been indifferent to the lives of citizens..
I note that Harperson is looking to tax us to death: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1226521/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Harmans-promise.html
Too *loody late. I’m nearly there. Hope its not a cold winter.
Coming from a long standing military family I despair of politicians trying to make political capital of our countries fighting men and women but even worse is the media salivating over conflict – with one purpose, to sell more papers. What the country needs is more journos on the front line … recruit all the self righteous hypocrites from the Sun, Mail, Express, Mirror, Star and send them out to Afghanistan, rather like the Lads companies from World War 1, name them the Hacks Brigade or something similar. Readers could sponsor parts of their uniforms and/or equipment.
“Pals” regiments ?
More like Nest of Hoons regiments
I only exist due to the fact that my great grandfathers best friend was killed and Great Grandfather he survived
Tom my Great Grandfathers best friend was engaged to My great grandmother
He was killed
They both joined the mob on day one
How dare that fuckwit Brown ring that lady
And who would want that twat to turn up and meet the coffins of our loved ones?
Let alone get an obscene phonecall late at night.
*spits blood and froth*
Our Government is imploding
Our Prime Minister is mental
The Cabinet are made up of shallow, impressionable not fit for purpose weaklings with little experience other than provincial town hall politics.
The backbenchers on all sides of the House are made up of thieving, greedy, hopeless, useless little people in it only for themselves.
Our Country is bankrupt, overpopulated, over regulated with draconian laws.
Our Nation is just a side show in a larger Europe who have in 10 years failed to sign off on their accounts. Europe per se is unsustainable, uneconomic, undemocratic.
Good, now that’s off my chest, see you in Switzerland.
He sounds like Darth Brown. The man is obviously mentally ill can not ANYONE RID THE NATION OF HIM? WHAT IS HER MAJ DOING? COUNTING HER MONEY
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There is no question that the money is there within the MOD budget, Can’t blame brown for lack of money, even though in real terms it has been cut.
Like all socialist administrations they just throw the money at the wall, hoping some will stick.
The war office/mod has always been a mire, the arms industry in general is a bucket of shit, and not one politician dare open it up. The moment a real lid is lifted the maggots will crawl out.
labours attitude to the armed forces is shocking, it may be that before the next election the economy and overall trend will improve. But this war will not. bLiar & brown are going to be blamed, because they are to blame, and for one time only, middle britain is not going to vote with it’s house price. And about time
From the Sun:-
Mr Brown said: “I’ve got the letter in front of me and if you feel that my writing was not right then I’m sorry about that.”
So he had a copy of his hand written note? The same note her personally folded and stuffed into an envelope?
Maybe he had a copy of the Sun :)
Or maybe he is a liar?
Ouch, what a creaming.
Murdoch has achieved the impossible. I feel sorry for Brownstain. :(
“I can not believe I have been brought down to the level of having an argument with the Prime Minister of my own country”
The silly argument about Brown’s hand-writing / spelling aside, this observation from Mrs Jane really does highlight how out-of-his-depth the Prime Mentalist actually is.
Instead of offering a simple apology for the state of his letter and keeping the conversation firmly on the topic of the condolences he wanted to offer the lady, he let his ego get the better of him and succeeding in making things worse.
Instead of simply acknowledging Mrs Janes’ various points of view, assuring her that he took her seriously, and empathising with her, he decided to pick a fight with her and tried to beat her down.
Did he not know he was on a hiding to nothing? He actually chose to interrupt and to argue with a grieving mother about the number of spelling mistakes he had made, before plunging feet first into a row about what his leader-less MOD has been doing.
The man continues to be a complete liability. If this is how he acquits himself confronting a meek housewife in private, how the hell can we imagine he gets on with rivals in Cabinet / EU / G20 / NATO?
Truly frightening.
Jesus wept…
Here here.
He has never done anything that hasn’t made me gawp in sheer bemused astonishment at just how socially inept or gauche he is. I have met people detained at her Majesty’s pleasure with greater interpersonal skills which is astounding for a politician when communication skills would be required as the only pre-requisite, unless you include blindly following your party whip through the chosen lobby as the only spineless and talentless way to define your shitty, pointless little career.
I try not to swear ,but this telephone call is a disgrace let alone the letter .
nothing on last nights nail biting berlin speech , probebly just as well that was a load of rubbish as well .
CW was intrigued by Yvette and Terresa spat , evanomics managed to be partial (not really news on this blogg) as yvette made claims about conservative policy that were just unture , but the startling figure was then revelaed that if labour hadnt supported the system 5 million would be unemployed (blanchflower) CW spat the mothfull of tea out , What The !!!!
5 million is somthing aproaching more than just a recession , it means that whole goverment policy is wrong , how do you create an economy that can turn into 5 million uemployed (plus incapacity) if you dont put state subsidies in ??
The ruin hasnt so much saved jobs by “investment” its that he has created endemic unemployment the total ammount is being offset by subsidies .
There are 31,000 civilian MoD employees in working London alone. These parasites have jobs functions like, ‘exploring ways to reduce payout to troops disabled in action’, and ‘robustly challenging compensation claims from amputees’.
As you might expect, these MoD parasites are paid way more than the military, and also enjoy massive final salary pensions at the taxpayers expense.
The function of the Mod, under the fascist dictatorship of Nu Libore, has been to thieve from the military budget to enrich themselves, and grow the MoD like a cancer.
In the financial year 2008/09, Ministry of Defence ‘civil servants’ gave themselves £52m in bonus payments out of the defence budget. This, of course, is on top of their massive salaries, huge pensions and massive expenses.
http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=11201
Their is absolutely no question that the MoD civilian kleptocracy is killing British troops (by depleting the equipment budget) to enrich themselves.
Nu Liebore have expended the kleptocratic Public sector (by millions of parasitic supernumeraries who divert taxpayers money from functional activites to themselves) to garner votes.
Har har bastards. I beat the jam rags to the story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1227067/MoD-penpushers-pocket-300m-British-soldiers-die-Afghanistan-lack-equipment.html
My apologies if this has already been noted, I didn’t have several hours to go through all the comments about this. But has anyone seen this in the gruniad >>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/10/transcript-jacqui-janes-gordon-brown
A shocking interpretation ! And the final paragraph >> “Brown could easily have responded by discussing the consequences of a financial meltdown, but he chooses not to and instead just tells Janes he is sorry.”
Erm – well, no he didn’t say he was sorry. He did say he was “sorry” that “she couldn’t read his handwriting” – ie HER FAULT – NOT HIS !
The transcript is shocking – any normal person would have expressed their deep regret; admiration for a fallen soldier; we are doing our best etc etc.
Today they are spinning that as his child died he knows exactly how she feels and implies that once she is over the grieving she will understand his point of view. I thought he didn’t use his family to score cheap political points ? Apart from “twitter” sarah ?
Of course it’s sad his new-born baby died – my heart goes out to him, and also to David Cameron for his son – but he’s missing the point.
Young men are being sent to a war that doesn’t seem to have been explained properly to the electorate and we are suffering many casualties which many high up people in the army are blaming on lack of resources.
Where would the money have been better spent ? Several billion bailing out a bank, or a few hundred million better equipping the military on active duty ?
Truly truly shocking !
I don’t believe for one moment that Gordon Brown is any kind of “evil” person.
That’s just crap IMO.
However, he is (as Guido has pointed out) one helluvua “jinxed” person.
He has the “Total Anti-MidasTouch” that turns everything into shit.
Jeez… even a letter to a grieving mother….
I’ve never liked GB’s personality, but had to give him credit in the past for stewardship of the Economy, year after year, since everything seemed to be going so well.
But now I realize he was just lucky and not smart at all!
He was just riding a wave, or sitting on the surface of an ever expanding bubble.
It was just a daydream, that even he probably believed himself…
Now?
He’s not competent to be PM of Britain..(and most of his team of pocket-lining social climbers, frankly.)
Sheesh…I’m only a common Engineer, yet even “I” have the savvy not to send somebody a hastily written note of fake sincere condolences.
Best just leave it than write anything at all IMO.
The thing that distrurbs me most of all, is that folk with poor judgement like that are not only part of running the country, but the bloody head of it!
Also… why is beer so dear in pubs these days? LOL!
Get back in your filthy shit hole – you low Nu Libore Nazi fascist retard.
Gordon Brown is deeply evil. He deliberately sends, what he sees as expendable working class trash, to die in the war (slaughter) against illiterate goat farmers in Afghanistan, because he would rather spend the defence budget garnering votes by bloating the MoD with NuLibore voting supernumerary shit, than provide proper safety equipment for troops (who honourably hesitate and are confused about killing civilians at random, and die as a result).
Gordon Brown is evil beyond imagination. He deserves all the hate that humans can muster on Earth. I will dance a jig when the evil Satanic filth dies of cancer.
Gordon Brown is evil evil evil evil filth.
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