Saturday Seven Up
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Sarah Palin said…
“A year later, I gotta ask the supporters of all that, ‘How’s that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?’ “
-Gilts (Mar)
As of 28 Jan 2010 +5.8%
Behind … but only just.
“You are either in front of Guido, or you are behind”
What bout alongside?
Or on top!
What if he’s farting?
Can I have time to think about this?
He is in this Saturday Seven Up feature – and smelling ‘em!
not sure about Seven Up, can I have a Tango?
To Peter Hain.
Forget the 7-up or the Tango. Just smear yourself in weasel shit. That’ll feel much more appropriate to you.
to engineer.
you fucking pillock. top boy says: you do not give the politicians tips on how to avoid the lynch mob from hanging them you imbecile.
I mean, who the fuck is going to grab hold of hain if he is covered in shit?
you are a pro eu stooge engineer, you are a tory turncoat.
fuck off to conservativefoam and bore them with your bullshit, we have had quite enough of your lies and treachery here thankyou very much.
you stupid scum tory.
fuck off wanker.
Engineer, TaT’s caring advice comes, as always, from the heart. He is too good for this world, too soft, too sentimental and indulgent. TaT, you must toughen up!
Besides, where these days can you get weasel shit in industrial quantities?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/08/guy_fawkes_demo/
There’s some spitting going on:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225864/Tory-faithful-spitting-blood-Camerons-U-turn-Europe-Hague-warned.html
And there is a price to pay for breaking your promise:
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/11/06/boosts-for-ukip-and-the-bnp-in-latest-pb-angus-reid-poll/
The DM ‘Comment’ summed it up well, too.
WHERE’S OUR REFERENDUM DODGY DAVE? Why were you such a limp dick opposing socio-ecomonic war criminals Blair and Brown? ‘Cos you’re a part of the same scam, innit? Well, you will learn a lesson soon…
The spitting will continue.
Miliband thinks Cameron’s EU policy is dangerous and could lead to Britain leaving the EU.
Farage thinks Cameron’s EU policy is meaningless and will not lead to the UK leaving the EU.
If the experts are confused, what hope Joe Public?
If Miliband is right, Farage is out of a job.
If Farage is right, Farage can keep is job. NO wonder he’s so desperate to tell everyone that Cameron is the new bogeyman. In truth non-cooperation and non-obedience to Lisbon is the only way to go from here for the eurosceptic Conservative Party. It’s massive progress for a Party that was me-too Blair two years ago.
So we have the choice between McSnot or bogeyman, yuck!
If you cut the civil service by 50% and tell the remainder that they are left on sufference that they don’t try enforcing any eu crap , which is not in the interests of the country, then eu membership is not a problem. Works for the French, the Greeks & Spanish.
If the MPs do Not accept the Kelly report in full then I am voting for a newcomer and I don’t care if it is BNP. Fuck M.
Why are MPs allowed to sign passpoert applications, I can not think of a more untrustworthy bunch.
And Dave you deserve singling out, you knew that your cast iron referendum was thought by most to be whether ratified or not and you did nothing to correct this. You sir are a complete rogue and traitor to your country.
It is expected that Labour will betray the country, that is what socialists do.
It is not expected that a Tory Leader will betray the country, betrayal is not what Tories are supposed to do. Dave is not fit to be a Tory PM, Dave is only fit to be a socialist PM.
Dave should be roasted on a spit, with French fries. Traitor.
Freedom fries, shurely, since the French and the Germans are the axis of evil about which the EUSSR rotateth?
Giving in to Ken Clarke was bad enough but if Wavy Davy wimps out on Kelly then he’s sealing his own doom as are the other Big Parties
Up with this, the public will not put
2.40pm,
griffin blew his brains out on QT and you talk of voting for the cripple?
shut up you fucking spastic.
vote independent.
essentially all the parties are fascistic to some degree and so to vote for any political party is essentially anti-democratic.
BE INDEPENDENT VOTE INDEPENDENT
VOTE INDEPENDENT TO SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY
this is the last chance you will have: as Lord Hailsham explained, the party system has gradually eroded our democratic principles for the parties’ benefit so that they can exist in perpertuity. the politicians have created, in front of our very eyes, an elective dictatorship. brown is a prime example, he is the manifestation of the political classes contempt for the electorate. by allowing gordon brown to remain in office the political class is openly taking the piss and sticking two fingers up at the electorate. that is why they are so angry at being called to account for thieving public funds under the guise of claiming expenses. they think, like royalty, that they are better than us, a different, higher class than the Great British Public. the truth is ofcourse that they are thieving scum shitting on the public’s faces and deserve to be lynched.
but to cut to the chase: if you do not vote independent in the next election then these cockroach party politicians will ensure the dissolution of democracy in Great Britain as they have already done in europe.
that is a certainty.
top boy has spoken: no appeals will be heard.
Top post Dude.
We need a republic.
We tried a republic in the 17th century. We decided it didn’t suit us, and went back to a constitutional monarchy. That’s done us pretty well for 350 years.
Vote independent, vote Esther Rantzen….wibble wibble.
I’m sure you’re right about voting independent, tat. I just hope the sheeple wake up bloody quick and do so at election time. Somehow, however, I doubt it. :-(
I am 2.40
I agree with every word you say. But we will not all get an independent to vote for, what then?
“I am 2.40″
2 far gone, more like.
Well said tat. Public must wake up sharpish and vote independent, not the bloody B*P though!
Bloody hell, tat and I are in agreement. I am staying anonymous but will vote even for Esther Rantzen id that is all I am offerred. BNP is going a bit far though.
Dickhead a no party state is a communist state,why not vote IMF you cretin!
er, no. a communist state is a one party state, not a no party state.
DOH!
you fucking cripple!
Labour are fucking communists you nonga!
new labour are war criminals.
Come on tat, get a life. It’s Saturday night and you have been there all evening. Even an old git like me has found a party to go to.
Come on tat, get a life. It’s Saturday night and you have been there all evening.
24/7 mongrel. 24/7 motherfucker.
the great thick as thieves will not rest until he has reached the promised land that is known as “the hung parliament.”
I am not a poxy part timer like the party trolls who clock off at weekends.
get used to it.
top boy is always in attendance.
Be independent. Vote independent.
Like it.
If the MPs do Not accept the Kelly report in full then I am voting for a newcomer and I don’t care if it is BNΡ. Fuck M.
Why are MPs allowed to sign passport applications, I can not think of a more untrustworthy bunch.
And Dave you deserve singling out, you knew that your cast iron referendum was thought by most to be whether ratified or not and you did nothing to correct this. You sir are a complete rogue, traitor to your country and devious CUNΤ .
Remember John Stonehouse (WEst Brom/Wednesbury)
Faked his own death. Used dead resident ID and signed the passport form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stonehouse
Wrong and wrong again. Only herberts like you trying to pedal the Labour propogander to cover up what they did thought that. It was made clear time and time and time again that if ratified something else would be required if not then a referendum. What part of that simple fucking statement did you not understand?
You people make me laugh and sick at the same time. You want to get angry well get angry at the lying toerags that signed your rights away. By the way I hope you never ever voted for Labour? Not once?…. anywhere at all? even in the council elections?
If you did you are part of the problem that caused this and our rights to be signed away and a total hypocrite to boot.
Tories are equally to blame
Keyword COMPLACENCY
Cameroons need a kick up their arse.
Who holds power at present? Who can authorise a referendum? Her Majesty’s loyal opposition cannot.
Who has been calling for a referendum? Who consistently promised one if they came to power before the treaty was ratified? Clearly not the governing party.
Labour manifesto pledge 2005 – referendum promise on Constitution. Difference between Constitution and Treaty? According to Valery Giscard Destaing (who wrote it) – damn all.
Labour have sold us out, not the Tories.
Engineer. I agree that Cameron was not in a position to authorise a referendum.
His position was that a referendum would be held. If held before ratification, it would be a judgment on the treaty. If held after ratification it would have to be on in or out of the EC.
The referendum was the small light in a darkening world that offered a way out of ever tightening EC regulation.The postmen, farmers and fishermen of Britain already see their future.
Cameron extinguished that light. He is reaping the reward for that action.
Brown extingusished the light and all hope as well. Save your anger for the ones responsible and do not allow Labour to cause you to misdirect that anger away from them as they want you to do.
One Labour MP took the piss about the ‘cast iron guarantee’ in the house of commons and did not reflect for a second on his and his governments own treachery. See they don’t care what the fuck you think.
Keep the barrels pointing at Labour and then after they are buried we start on the others and the first in line is the EU and any troughers Tory, Labour Lib dum or otherwise..
Keep the barrels pointing at Labour and then after they are buried we start on the others and the first in line is the EU and any troughers Tory, Labour Lib dum or otherwise..
Yeh, well do that… put Cameroon in, then we’ll go after his torughing mates. Some hope. Id rather be honest with myself and not vote for the Tories after that Cast iron bulls**t.
Big D. I’m as angry about Lisbon as you, but what good would a referendum do now, except as a futile gesture? The treaty is done and dusted, and there’s damn all we can do about it, apart from the long haul of renegotiating and trying to change the EU from within (and no, I’m not holding my breath either).
We’ve lost a battle, but not necessarily the war. There are too many people in this country who still think EU membership is a good thing, and don’t understand the implications for the way we are governed, and the way we live our lives. There are some who don’t care. They have to be woken up, and perhaps when reality starts to bite, they might. Perhaps public opinion will harden and coalesce; perhaps the next government might find the clamour in, say, four year’s time such that a referendum might do more good then. Going to Brussels with a 70% majority is a rather stronger bargaining position than a 53% majority.
I hate the EU in it’s current form, it just doesn’t fit with the British way of doing things. Maybe that’s it’s weakness; when people really start to see this, the current disquiet of a small majority will harden into anger of a larger majority.
Well said.
I agree, as if that matters.
let’s be clear, eurosceptics are not a fringe wing of the Conservative Party they are the large majority along with the British Public
whining that Cameron isn’t in power yet so can’t have any Policies or that the dumb kid did it too is no excuse for not having a referendum
far from being useless it would actually give the Conservatives a massive bargaining chip as the publics clear no to Lisbon would enable abrogation or even renegotiaition because as it stands now there is nothing to stop any of the 26 countries simply telling Cameron NO and that’s the end of it
it’s a eurocrat treaty not the fucking word of God
Britain is a Sovereign country and can abrogate any treaty it wishes
who will be arrested by whom for breaking any supposed legal minutia hidden in Lisbon ? that’s assuming there even are any that can over-ride the British Parlaiment and it’s Prime Minister
but the fact that Cameron can’t even promise ANY kind of referendum is the proof that he just wants eurosceptics to shut up and take it up the arse from Lisbon, Brussels, and Ken Clarkes fringe europhile wing of the Party
Correct Cameron played his cast iron guarantee for all that he could, even though he KNEW his small print said the guarantee was worthless.
Dave is a CON!!!!!
Don’t be so fucking Stupid.
David Davis came out against cameron this week. What more proof do you need that cameron is a Europhile?
Cameron could have easily explained the get out clause of his Cast Iron warranty years ago, but he chose not to and let us all believe that he would hold a referendum.
Dave CAN NOT BE TRUSTED anymore.
The phrase is:
PAUVRE CON
So,
UKIP can be trusted can they? What’s the plan apart from the ‘negotiate a free trade agreement’ with no explanation of how, or what risks this would bring to our economy. If we are to change our relationship with the EU it needs careful planning and implementing. I have asked UKIP this question and received no answer. I would have thought after many years of putting this policy forward,they might have an idea of how it would work. If not,they are just another bunch of shysters. Voting for them on the basis of ‘they have not kicked me in the balls yet and are telling me what I want to hear’ is plain,fucking stupid.
The vote independent brigade are also deluded. That will not give us a Parliament with 600 odd independent thinkers. It will just let Labour back in. They can depend on 20 or so % of the vote come what may.
They can also get the Lib Dem weasels to form a coalition if required.
You want 5 more years of this shit? Vote UKIP and Independent and that’s what you will get. Don’t forget UKIP might go bust before we get to an election.
Face the truth -the democratic system is completely fucked and your vote is a complete waste -whoever gets in will line their own pockets first and shaft us in the process. All promises will vanish once the votes are counted.
Oh dear Cameron has backed out of a promise. Good he has proved what he is – so what have Brown/Clegg etc done? What will king trougher Farage do? Obviously he only milked EU expenses to expose the system,so he will be donating the sums claimed to charity I presume? If nor,what has he done with them?
When will the Lib Dems be repaying the 2.4. million donation which was the proceeds of crime? Never according to Clegg.
The fucking lot deserve one thing – a revolution.
Well I just despair that MPs are still trying to maintain their expenses scams.
What will it take to make them realise that they can not thieve anymore?
The Whole world thinks Gordon is a bozo.
Gordon Brown: worldwide snub over tax plans
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6521548/Gordon-Brown-worldwide-snub-over-tax-plans.html
he casts an enormous shadow
I am pleased Cast Iron Dave’s broken cast iron guarantee is top of the list.
Dave is no better than Gordon on holding referendums.
Hmm… cast iron… It isn’t that strong. I had a sturdy seaside spade with a blade made of it. It snapped in two when I tried to dig up a couple of deep-seated clams. Cast iron breaks fairly easily. That’s one reason steel was invented.
I loved hearing Gordy referring to Dave’s ‘Eye-ron casst’ guarantees almost as much as hearing him say ‘Alky Ada.’
Hardly anything is forever in politics. Pragmatism! Pragmatism! Realpolitik! Realpolitik. Get real folks.
Apart from CMD couldn’t hold a referendum and was never in a position too. McDoom and Bliar on the other hand promised we WOULD have the vote, won an election on it, then lied all the way to signing the f*cking thing without our consent.
Was n’t it Gordon, referring to Teflon Tony B£iar, who screamed,
“I’ll never believe anything you say any more” ?
Seems they’re all serial liars.
Dave is no better that Brown??????
I think you will find it was Brown that signed your rights away in a darkened room after the event.
All of the same ilk
It doesn’t matter whether Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee signed the treacherous instrument.
You could expect no better of Brown.
Cameron could have brought the country to a fever pitch of protest, just as he could have done over the immigration scandal. Even the narrow interests of his own party in having its potential electoral base diluted should have turned him into an avenging angel on that score. Ditto the revelations of Labour’s entrenched communist Quislings.
What did he do? Bugger all.
As for the “cast iron” guarantee, if his get-out clause is deemed to be the second sentence of the quotation repeated so often on here, whatever hallowed alma maters he is the finished product of cannot have taught comprehension.
You are a Labour troll!
You are a Tory Central Office Spinner! (or rimmer)
I’m next !!!
Liked your one about the cat scratching the other day. T’was thought for the day!
brace yourselves for BluLabour
Yes, assume the brace position and brace yourself for a shafting. The seamless transition from NuLabour to BluLabour will soon be upon us.
Yes, Nu to Blue. Sadly we really do get the government we deserve. Today we happily tolerate anything except intolerance.
I see the UKIP taxi has arrived. No more room on top.
Tories 2 points down in the polls. Newlabour 1 point up. This mainly due to gains by UKIP and BNP.
All within the margin of error, and until the next poll comes out.
’seamless’ is right… you wont see the join… or feel any change in direction.
In fact nothing! Zanucon is coming soon.
UKIP are a waste of oxygen.
As someone said earlier.
‘Hardly anything is forever in politics. Pragmatism! Pragmatism! Realpolitik! Realpolitik. Get real folks.’
Spot on.
‘Hardly anything is forever in politics. Pragmatism! Pragmatism! Realpolitik! Realpolitik. Get real folks.’
I wonder if the people who thought that at the end of the Weimar Republic in 1933 thought the same thing twelve years later. Those that were still alive that is.
Spot prize for the most pointless and lazy Third Reich reference, little D.
“UKIP are a waste of oxygen.”
I said Broon is a waste of oxygen earlier in the week – and he creates an unjustifiably huge clunking fistful of CO2 which in and of itself is a danger to humanity and the planet….
Broon ought to have the CO2 pumped from him and stored in one of those ridiculous tanks underground which are planned for CO2. In a couple of hundred years time those tanks will have to be ‘mined’ for their CO2 as there will likely be a shortage of said CO2 in the atmosphere by then.
Man shouldn’t interfere with the forces of Creation and the natural order but in Broon and Bliar’s case I think God might be prepared to make an exception – if we ask nicely.
Oh come on Suky. Sucking out Zanu’s CO2 is no punishment for them at all.
Methane is the gas that drives Zanu and they’re expelling it at 1000’s of cubic tonnes per month. Although, if given a preference, I’d rather we prioritised the 100% removal of their oxygen and nitorogen.
No wonder the HoP’s known as the ‘Westminster gasworks’. Energy problem solved for a while.
I wish those people who rush to blame Cameron for all the Tory part ills, are destroying any chance we have of getting rid of Broon and his govt. We only have one chance, lets not mess it up. Otherwise we’re into political oblivion for another 10 years or so.
I never typed that comment above No 77.
As much as I really do agree with it I didnt type it or send it!! Whats going on?
Vote for a another liar? No chance.
Pretty naive in Swindon. They are all liars. You have to vote for the one who is least likely to damage the country, and however well Nige comes across he has even less managerial capability in his party than the other three. I would back Hague against anyone UKIP have got to negotiate protection or exit from EU.
Hague looking ever so anxious since bad news for tories after referendum climb down. Gave a rather limp interview the other night on Newsnight. Think he’s been told to keep his mouth shut, and tow the party line. That’s what’s taken the wind out of his sails. Better not to attack the tories just now, only plays in to the bastard newlabour party. The gorgon giving us a Presbyterian dissertation every day – when we will be trid of him?! and them!
I would have liked to vote for DC but after the Tuesday evening wait and see, which so easily could have been followed up with a commitment to an in or out referendum. But it wasn’t and surely it must have been considered – and rejected because they calculated they would loose. Thus denying the will of the people..
Trid? Result of getting over heated at the sound of the gorgon’s voice!!!!!
Off topic, slightly.
Last night on the Blogs, someone mentioned a spectator diary publication mentioned by the Mail. Very interesting stuff. Many of us will have been thinking this for years, it’s nice to see proof of McDooms personal groomers dark history…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225637/How-Kremlin-hijacked-Labour-Diary-Kremlin-insider-reveals-hold-Soviets-Labour-politicians.html
So all those rumours about reds under the bed were true, except they weren’t under the bed, they were on top screwing the fuck out of us.
And getting paid for it, the b*stards. This really should be front page news.
Gordon Brown on his handler Jack Jones (He of a Kremlin salary)…
“All of us who were personal friends of Jack will miss his advice, his courage and his inspiration”
Yeah, looks like He also arranged Brown one and only safe seat, funny that.
nobody fucked me dearie
One thing to remember about this is Labours continuous hatred of the nuclear deterrent which helped keep us safe for many years.
Many of these scumbags were in CND and then became MP’s Joan Ruddick being the typical example and none other than Bliar hinself was a member. If we had listened to Labour we would have been defenseless as some will remember that Kinnock stated a day before the elction if he won he would recall all the polaris submarines. Most think Kinnock lost votes at the end of the hustings because of his air punching ‘Allllwright’ antics. It wasn’t it was because he made that statement that scared the shit out of all of us all and he was decimated at the polls.
Labour and N Labour wrong on defence wrong on the economy wrong on public services just about wrong on everything.
The latest revelations tell us why they tthought like that. The last time we dodged the communist bullet but will we this time with the EU? Doubt it as the British population just slept walk into a similar scenario.
I did,nt write the above, but totally agree with it!
Strange goings on.
(The real One Flew over the No 10 Bunker)
Every Labour MP should have that article in his mail box.
The trend is still continuing with Milibands family history quite interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Miliband
Will the son of the manse be ditched- if Labour gain power again after the election – only to be replaced by someone more extreme?
Creeping Socialism??
CREEPY socialism….
Creeping socialism = the Cameroons,
SEAMLESS SOCIALISM of Zanucon
We only do the ’seamy’ side, not the ’seamless’
unfortunately becomming so very true.
Lord Haw Haw
You do not have a clue what you are talking about so just give us all a break huh?
Cameroon = BluLabour
you are a lib-demo and i claim my five pounds
Harry Pollitt: any relation to Pollitt Oynbee ??
K-SRRRRAWWWKK!!! (ping) PRETTYPOLLY! (hic)
Nice mullet.
dont bring the FISH into this
Bloop……bloop….
So THAT’S how Gormless is controlling us !
Pretty good – whats the name of the movie?
It’s called They Live. You can watch the whole film on Youtube. It’s quite an interesting concept. Not all of us need fancy sunglasses to see what’s going on around us, though.
thank you.
Just finished scanning around sky-tv – wot a load of crap.
On one history channel, we’re “informed” that the anglo-saxons did,nt real exist, and the English were purely an invention around the 10th Century.
Another channel was arguing for Young Gypsy rights in the community. Showed pikies in Appleby chaving it up.
My god, non stop propagande from all sources…
In real life it works like this:
From childhood onwards we are taught to sell our dignity for the respect of hypocrites;
we are bombarded with these subliminal messages;
we are taught to eat shit and say yummy, because it is sugar coated.
I did not drop out in 1970 and stay dropped out until today because I am stupid.
Au contraire!
We come here fully equipped, with courage, dignity, honour, compassion and all the sweet gifts of Life.
Whether we embrace that, or the ugly stuff is ultimately our individual choice.
My personal politics state:
If I want something to change, I must make that change myself.
Then something changed.
Then I set an example that others can see, not empty words.
Wow – watched that part and cannot stop watching it!
So this is what Brown’s Britain will be like if he wins again!
Do Boots do these glasses own label or is it a Ray Ban cost?
Bet you’ve never seen it on TV either. I wonder why?
None of them are worth electing. Just draw lots from the general public, we’d get a far better government that way. Politicians have never had qualifications for the job. They suffer from verbal diarrhoea and they’re great liars!
Come to the conclusion that when my voting documents arrive I will return them to sender, not interested any more, we are about as democratic as Afghanistan and they are mostly still living in the stone age.
Streamfisher if you don’t vote then you can’t complain,use your vote,vote for anybody but use it.
Dave is the best hope we have, and sooner you realise this – the better, now down us a favour and clear off.
Oi !!!!
Choose your own name and don’t use mine you twat.
I agree with what you say but pick your own nickname all the same.
Don’t vote, you only encourage them!
vote ANYTHING, but avoid Lab/Con/LibDem
even B&P if you must, personally Im going UKIP.
UKIP will do very well out this tory mess. The Julie Kirkbride stuff will no doubt give them more opportunities in that part of the UK. Alot of bromsgrove people cant stand her, whilst others love her – strange divide. She “owns” alot of folk around her.
Another nulabour troll, this place of full of them.
bugger off no.10 you’re full of pro-cameroonian shite!
Yep make your vote count- Count against the troughers and scum that infest parliament.
Dont just waste it, use it as a nail in their coffin.
If enough people wake up and do the same things WILL change, theyll have to. Forced by numbers.
Spread the word.
I resent that comment about us living in the Stone Age. We have a social and political structure evolved over hundreds and thousands of years based on a model of local power and consultation that your top down Western so-called democracies cannot approach. The fittest, strongest and cleverest win power at the local level, going right up to the highest levels of society. Ask Darwin if our model for society is better than yours.
Based on that philosophy re Darwin the fittest strongest and cleverest reside in the U.S.A, they could quite easily bomb you back into the….. stone age?
Poor Afghanistan, has anybody given a thought to the people who try to get on with their lives there? I saw the people of Coventry the other night in a film about the German bombings during last war. The families were distraught with fear and trauma. The families in Afghanistan will feel the same trauma. Does anyone think about them?
NO
You wouldn’t would you?
I fully support the lovely Julie~K, and her continuning troughing in the Bromsgrove contituency. Never again shall I accept any resignation from any torugher, especially one that is so good looking.
you’re boring me mr sausage.
I’d shag it (Julie not mr.s)
Youd shag someone with no morality?
How bout shagging brown?
Stop butting in on my patch! Or did I post as ‘Cast Iron Dave’. I have lost it big time.
And as you know, I eat my own poo. So there.
That is all.
Everyone posts as “cast iron” but never again….
sorry we dont believe you
‘Cast iron posts’. Stop it, you’re giving me ideas…
In out, in out, shake it all about.
Do I need a receipt for that quote…?
Call me Lady-K [hurry up David]
cameron has told her constituency that they must hold an open primary to find an acceptable candidate.
I doubt she’s going to fare very well in that given that there is a strong community campaign running against her.
Nell ignore the prat above its a troll with nothing better to say than repeat.
By the way I still hope she does go and is voted out by the locals but thats democracy in action. Labour might remember that of course but given the way they sneaked through the Liesbon Constitreaty and won a lost battle in Glenrothes and instantly loss the record to prove otherwise I very much doubt it.
Sorry Nell, Im the Prat, got confused (again).
?????????
Thats Not me Nell
You see the mentality of these people. Can’t even give a good argument without sneaking around the edges by using someone else moniker. Like Brown an Labour who sneak around in the darkness,
grow up and stop using my moniker.
oh shut up silly man
I see we have had an imposter on here. Only the first comment was mine.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1934946,00.html
wildly off topic
Just imagine someone causing a panic to distract attention. Lucky it can’t happen here.
Look at the MMR jab, the recent anti-cervical cancer jab.
I wouldnt let the state near my kids with any of their home-made brews.
Some schools are apparently denying places to kids who have,nt been
vacinated. When they are ready these cnts will issue an anti pigflu jab and if you dont take it, you’ll be removed from your GPs list.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet…..
Pleae enlighten us with your knowledge.
Three very pretty women on a bus, two wearing masks, does not a panic make.
The masks might have something to do with the fact that everyone is using “traditional folk remedies” i.e. raw onion, garlic and vodka.
It is not many months ago that we closed schools in this country. It was clearly a waste of time.
They weren’t amsks they were burkhas!
Genuine request for inf about something on this week’s highly entertaining Guy News (not a bit surprised about the antics of N Winterton BTW)…
WHO is the woman singing in such an entrancing incantatory fashion in the voice-over as the newscast finally fades out? Please could one of Guido’s helpers reply if she/he has time?
Nicolette – No Government
ps – not a Guido helper, just googled the lyrics then confirmed it on youtube.
Thanks for that.
yes Guido’s helpers. Has the gamin Emily been ‘discovered’ so quickly by Sky or ITN maybe?
Good news for John & Edward on x-factor….Gordon Brown says they are not very good and didn’t wish them well!!!! They are certain to win now.
Utter rubbish, go away you Prat.
Fuck off from using my moniker.
‘You can’t have politicians stepping into the scientific arena’?
You can’t have people like gordon and aintbustinagut stepping into the military one either.
This self confessed son of the manse, ‘with a moral compass, who never tells a lie’, gave a speech yesterday that said in one breath ‘we can never walk away from afghanistan’ and in the other , to karzai ’stop the corruption or we’ll withdraw our troops’.
This is all a political game to gordon, he doesn’t give a damn about our people out there or the price they are paying for his posturing on the international stage.
He promises 500 extra troops – but doesn’t send them.
He tell us he will send more helicopters – but they’ve never arrived.
He says he will get the ridgebacks out of dubai and into afghanistan – but it just never happens.
No wonder the generals are happy to keep embarrassing him and showing him up for the straw man that he is.
Gordon has started enacting Defence cuts – as if we did n’t know.
Enacting defence cuts well remember they hate the military anyway. In the meaantime they pour out another few billions to the banks at the point where other countries have changed direction but we cannot as we are deep shit unlike them. Another Broon lie then.
Apparently they always say Helicopter coverage has been increased by 60% but of course 60 % of the square root of fuckall is still the squareroot of fuckall. You will never ever hear them give an actual number of the increase though because they are
sneaky lying and totally devious with our troops who inceasingly when not providing photo apportunities for Labour end up dying for the fag end of a corrupt, useless, tratorous, evil government.
Fuck off from using my moniker
Gordon doesn’t know what to do because Obama hasn’t made his mind up what to do, remember Blair and Bush?
I used to be indecisive, but now I’m nae sae sure.
But nothin’s ma fault, ye understan’.
and if Obama goes for a large troop deployment it will take anything up to a year to even get them out there
so this is Camerons problem if he backs it now
make no mistake about that
he’d best start practicing spinning how much good this catastrophe is doing us because he’s going to be doing it for the entire 5 years he’s in office if he doesn’t start calling for a withdrawall date
Dying for the vanity of gordon.
There seem to be a number of suggestions floating about the media (U.S.)that there are not enough US soldiers, thay are having to do too many tours of duty and that a volunteer army recruits from too narrow a field.
There is also a comment that the real rate of unemployment is 17.5% if one includes people on short time who want full time and those who have given up looking for work.
Is it just me, or are they paving the way for conscription to be reintroduced as the answer to the US and UK’s problems in Afghanistan?
You could be right about constription. I have some friends over in the US and they have been thinking about this for more than a few years now and are really worried more so those with young sons and with Vietnam at the back of their minds.
It could be the graveyard for the politicians that introduce it of course which is why hopefully it is very unlikely. The concern is if they really start to lose in Afghanistan it would be political oblivion anyway for them so the politicians may have little or nothing to lose by doing it.
I too am worried about “constription”
Seems like a nice boy.
Oops!
Conscription it is however I suspect that original version would be closer to the truth if as you suggest Mangledbum gets involved.
Fuck off from using my moniker!!!
Britain has already adopted a “semi-conscription” policy by deploying TA units, something we are only supposed to do in emergency conditions.
There was a report a week or two ago that recruitment in the South Wales area was well up on normal, despite the Afghan situation. This may have more to do with the economic situation biting in that area, and school-leavers seeing military service as a positive career option.
Sounds about right, take a job with the possibility of death rather than live in the hell hole that Liebor have created!
Sounds right to me. NuLiebor paradise in those valleys. Those boys and girls are choosing Afghanistan over the NuLiebor paradise! Says it all>
You do not have a clue what you are talking about so just give us all a break.
Care to set out the “true” position then?
Engineer
that was not my comment but a troll trying to shut down the argument and seeming to be doing quite well (check through this thread and you will see). I am actually in total agreement with unfortunately what happened to you the other day is now happening to me.
CVriticise or point out the failings of Labour and they try to smear and shut you down
The real ‘One flew’
The army is nearly at 100% manning thanks to Gordon Browns no boom no bust and no more money in your pocket antics which have drove young people to sign up left, right and centre as they have little to no other choice or options avaliable to them.
Not that I am complaining BUT, I hate to see more young lives ruined on a mad communist dictators whim.
“One Flew”
From the tone of the comment, I rather gathered that a troll was at work. Interesting that said troll has no constructive argument to offer – that speaks volumes.
said the tory troll.
Listen to Brown talking shit at some G20 meeting, floating some attempt at grabbing the headlines whilst actually begging those out of recession to keep up fiscal stimulus.
All I care about is getting the nail biting mendacious and slime dripping Brown and party oput of power.
I was reading in the International Herald Tribune that countries are now moving away from the QE (they did some QE but not as much as us). These countries are now even reducing taxes to provided incentives. These are all the main countries in the G7 of course all these countries we were better placed than according to Boown but have now come out of recession while we remain in recession until Brown fixes the figures for the 2009 fourth quarter to claim recovery! dont put is at risk! All bollox of course.
As you say correctly the nail biting mendacious and slime dripping Brown and party should be removed from power and completly destroyed as a credible party for ever before ANYTHING else. Then we start on the rest of them and the EU.
“I was reading in the International Herald Tribune”
TWAT
what the paper or the truth?
My! there are some trolls around today but the truth really hurts like we remain in recession and not as the one eyed liar would make out ‘best placed’
Sorry
Wrong target
So why does ickle Georgieboy back quantitative easing then ?
one flew over number 10’s bunker,
you keep banging on about trolls.
tell us, what party do you support?
erm tat
remember the bloke with a quiff?
sang songs by Pete Waterman?
you’re Rick Astley you are
ah, so one flew over is a bn p troll.
thought so.
thanks, sofablob.
you dopey c’unt.
Saw it too. What a mendacious son of a bitch. And the media just lap this crap up. When the revolution comes – and it will, eventually – these media bastards will be the first to line up against the wall.
What was it during the war – Quisling?
You do not have a clue what you are talking about so just give us a break?
P*ss off why dont you.
Rip van winkle
This is a troll posting under my moniker
It is not the real OFOTN10B but he is having the desired effect
I’m a total wanker
and then we can have CAST IRON DAVE… fantastic!
labour trolls active again!
tory trolls active again!
again not the real one flew I’m afraid
I like this game…
ah, so you are not a tory. very interesting.
perhaps you are a lib dem?
not ashamed of your political affiliations are you?
cough up you c’unt. who do you support?
I support the Esther Rantzen ( with the emphasis on the rant) Party for wackos and deadbeats.
oh dear. you are ashamed to name the party you are a member of.
that means you are a bn p troll.
yet earlier you were accusing other poster of being trolls!
fucking hell you really are a totally full of shit lying fascist wanker innit.
the great thick as thieves particularly enjoys cracking bn p trolls skulls.
they are so thick that they make a very lound cracking noise when you cleave them in two.
better put your tin hat on for I am going to cave your skull in you inadequate fascist spastic.
let the game begin…
If Dave is cast iron, Gordon must be plastic, or something a bit sticky like blancmange.
both made of shite!
I want to be shite as well.
Please be advised that we have a simple minded troll on her using my moniker very similar to what happened to Engineer etc.
Seems like they must be Labour trolls as they sneak around and lie and deceive just like real Labour yet cannot argue with the truth and get upset when you point out the facts.
Come on you hoon put up an fucking argument if you don’t agree but or haven’t you got the guts or an answer. Yeah thats it your a coward how very apt and nothing to base an argument on.
No doubt this one will also be replied too with my moniker.
One Flew over the No 10 bunker (The real one)
Fuck off from using my moniker!.
again not the real ‘One flew’ I’m afraid. Whats the rules on this or do we have to steal everyones moniker to basically make the site unreadable or perhaps thats hat they want
shut down the argument if they can’t win it how very Nu labour
Cowards to a man, or woman, or gay, transexual or horrible little wanker.
How dare you call DMC that!
“Please be advised” what a pompous oaf you are!
fuck off one flew over the no 10 bunker. you fucking tit.
top boy says: you’re an arsehole.
fuck off back to your bn p nasty fascist site you prick.
what a prize fucking tool.
Fuck off and have a nervous breakdown somewhere else, faggot.
remember the bloke with a quiff?
sang songs by Pete Waterman?
you’re Rick Astley you are
have you got alzheimers?
and we all know that is you, one flew over number 10’s bunker.
you are sad and pathetic.
you are a very sad and dimwitted character indeed.
what a fuckwit
we know that is you aswell one flew over number 10.
you are creepy.
stalk someone else c’unt.
Hey real One Flew over the No 10 Bunker this is just typical of Nuliebor. Throughout their existence their method was to use spin and deceit learnt at the knees of Dr Goebbels and refined in Stalin’s paradise. They even do this to each other. Brown’s Gestapo slandered Blair’s henchmen and Blair’s Stasi did the same to Brown’s arse lickers.
********SHOCK HORROR IN BELGIUM**********
I just saw a load of white guys, on the telly, walking around a town, playing their musical instruments,
all blacked up as ‘Black and White Minstrels’, all the clobber, the whole dogs bollocks.
The sooner we get Harriet and J Straw over here to sort out these bastard racists then the sooner I will be leaving the Holy Roman Empire.
It is not that they haven’t got the hang of political correctness around here, they do not know what it is.
Still lost in old fashioned politeness and, good manners, the retards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vive la Belge
Just been a case of a guy here in the UK who has been banned for doing just that in a tribute type act.
Funny old world really.
his act wqas S**T thats why hw got banned.
HandSE – done one’s head in, literallly.
Is it ‘cos I was black?
wacko
jacko
Mammy!
damn this k3yboard
Nick
vive la belge = long live the belgian woman.
Have you shagging the nextdoor neighbour again ?
Res,
she is a very nice lady but I am an appalling romantic. The best looking woman around here is here.
I once got thrown out of a germans friends house, when the husband was not there, for refusing to give her one. I have very high standards!
Reading the lads dribbling about these mediocre Brit women makes me laugh!
The Wallys:
It’s the Province de Luxembourg here, origanally part of the Grand Duchy.
They want to go home. Still moaning about the Treaty of Utrecht or somewhere.
Give them another 400 plus years and they will wake up to Lisbon!
Nick
so if your daughter is half brit half continental does that mean she only shaves under one armpit ?
We are expecting a daughter very soon, with luck etc.
I happen to be very keen on hairy women!
Saves money on Christmas trees.
Just stop the missus shaving her legs for a couple of months and wrap the lights around those long, long legs!
These germans were Bhagwhanis!
The wife and Bea the Bitch from Berlin once gave me a naked massage. I was naked.
My poor buddy, the husband was dying.
I got thrown out of the same house again because of B the B from B.
They were both jealous! Free sex and open relationships was their ‘Way’
Funny firm the germans.
Just do not start me upon when I lived in the female german sex therapists gaff.
Nick
I’ll pick you up on that next week.
Now off to the local bonfire ( see you’d forgotten !) we’re burning an effigy of a one eyed fascist leader take your pick
Griffin
Brown
Le Pen
cheers.
Real Conservatives are burning the lisbon treaty.
Raleigh up boys, raliegh up (cycle joke there!)
Support my glorious leadership… Never again will I accept resignations from beautiful ladies in the Mildnads area. My brain aches with decisions, and I cant keep making Cast Iron statements which I later have to withdraw. The pain , the pain of leadership…
Remove those from your armpits who remark “Blu-labour”.
We are conservatism with a social face!
another labour troll
One Flew over the No 10 bunker (The real one)
another Tory troll
Onehad his tongue rammed up Cast Iron Dave’s arse-crack (The real one)
As a government we make tough decisions, and I have finally decided that I like anything with chocolate on.
Kirkbrides not beautiful, get your eyes tested.
Looks like she fell out the ugly tree and busted every branch on the way down.
ffs raise your standards and stop going after pigs.
I have a pigmy’s cock
That’s OK, I’m a little сunt.
Not me, this is not my post.
It appears that I have got to someone.. Come on out you chicken shit and have the argument but you won’t will you because you are a smneaky little coward hiding behind someones moniker and not using your own
Come on have the argument you labour twat put your point of view
For a brain.
MPs still don’t get it! They continue to piss on the people! About time we had a revolution! The french knew how to handle them. Let them eat cake!? – they couldn’t care less, those self serving, greedy, third rate, low life carpet baggers!
Are you related to the lingerie chain?
Not me I’m afraid its the labour troll again trying to shut down the argument
Kirkbride et Cameroon
we are pricks. we like Gordon Brown.
Watch me drop-kick England’s rugger bugger bum boys to victory over the convicts.
I think England were phoned by Brown and wished good luck, and guess what….”the Curse” hit and the convicts won.
Shame Lizzie. Shit, you racist. These are convicts that have built a solid nation. Turn your head 180 degrees.
Im fed up of the scum-bag chavs, and untermensch we have here.
A tory govt will soon have you boys back at work!
Retard.
Ok last warning twat stop using my moniker OK. You fucking little prick.
Retard
Your precious tory government will do fuck all except continue to involve us with ever deeper integration into the EUSSR. Dave (El Cid) is a useless pile of lying shite.
That’s just not true. Where is your evidence for that?
Absolutely correct.
No firm commitments from dave the power crave just promises and we all know what he thinks about honouring those.
Vote UKIP! Vote independent, just done vote for the 3 “fuckyou” parties that want to continue fucking us over.
Gordon Brown’s plans to reform the banking system by taxing transactions has been rejected by the US.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA WANKER!!
Brown is becoming more unpopular with the overseas people who matter. Recently “Little Napoleon” and Frauline Merkel have given him the cold shoulder, turning down his offer of Tony Blair for EU President, and now his financial plans are tossed one side. The Pakistan President refused to meet Brown a while ago, and the words of the Labour election song have been updated now “things can only get better when Browns gone”.
I know the mills of god grind slow but exceeding small but what has Britain done to warrant 13 years of purgatory waiting for an arrogant, incompetent, pigheaded scots bully to get his comeuppance.
Repeat after me Brown’s a Tosser. You know it makes sense and now the other world leaders are falling into line.
It’s what they (the BBC) call a lukewarm response.
It’s been rejected by the head of the ECB, too. Brown’s a worse-than-useless, one-eyed fucking numbskull with no clue about how to repay the truly enormous debt he’s signed everyone up to. Someone needs to put a bullet through his fat, porridge-filled head.
I slagged off Jedward; looks like I shall have to be known now as Deadwood…
O what is that sound which so thrills the ear
Down in the valley drumming, drumming?
Only the scarlet soldiers, dear,
The soldiers coming.
O what is that light I see flashing so clear
Over the distance brightly, brightly?
Only the sun on their weapons, dear,
As they step lightly.
O what are they doing with all that gear,
What are they doing this morning, this morning?
Only their usual manoeuvres, dear.
Or perhaps a warning.
O why have they left the road down there,
Why are they suddenly wheeling, wheeling?
Perhaps a change in their orders, dear.
Why are you kneeling?
O haven’t they stopped for the doctor’s care,
Haven’t they reined their horses, their horses?
Why, they are none of them wounded, dear.
None of these forces.
O is it the parson they want, with white hair,
Is it the parson, is it, is it?
No, they are passing his gateway, dear,
Without a visit.
O it must be the farmer who lives so near.
It must be the farmer so cunning, so cunning?
They have passed the farmyard already, dear,
And now they are running.
O where are you going? Stay with me here!
Were the vows you swore deceiving, deceiving?
No, I promised to love you, dear,
But I must be leaving.
O it’s broken the lock and splintered the door,
O it’s the gate where they’re turning, turning;
Their boots are heavy on the floor
And their eyes are burning.
– W. H. Auden
Great poem, by a great poet!
A serious question.
We, (and Cameron) always knew that there were only two possibilities regarding Lisbon.
Either it would be ratified before the election or it would not.
Why did he not spell out clearly what his actions would be following both eventualities?
I have my own ideas; but would someone who knows care to tell us?
You first.
a)
Done it aagin.
a) He hadn’t made his mind up.
b) He was pretending to be in a powerful position with an unloaded gun.
c) He was waiting for information / decisions of an undisclosed nature from undisclosed parties which might affect his position and subsequent actions.
Election timing perhaps?
For my money, he would have been in a better more honest position if he had been clear from the start, and I cannot see why he wsasn’t.
He could have dramatically influenced events by announcing that there definitely would be a post ratification referendum.
Europe is still pretending that it is democratic and would not in the least like being exposed for the dictatorship it actually is.
He chose the worst of both worlds.
Read this for another view along the same lines.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6521187/The-end-of-the-great-deception.html
And another.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/matthewd_ancona/6521571/The-transfer-of-authority-to-David-Cameron-has-already-begun.html
Exactly. It’s not about what he did/didn’t promise, or did/didn’t deliver. The point is he was stupid to have said it without covering all eventualities (in language accessible to your average Sun reader). So he’s an oaf. Don’t vote for him.
Haven’t read those two links yet, but my take is that they just wanted to get through the conference without any serious shitstorms (you could see the BBC and the rest of the press were drooling like dogs for a Tory Euro bust-up story that they could exploit all week) and then just stuck to the line until the ratification occured.
Glad to see Booker can still give free speech in DT. Ancona’s piece was deceitful propoganda.
I had thought that camerons position was Eurosceptic , indeed the soventriy bill to me had an interesting prospect . If reading between the lines it will not do the business and wrest us from the cold hand of EU rule then it is still a matter of order and timing .
the lib dems would offer no change and let us slip into EU rule , goodness knows what another term of labour would be like , the conservatives are the best hope at at least governing the UK better , we can sort europe out later , the real problem is labour and lib dems stance .
Trying to weaken the eurosceptic argument by boiling the conservatives in there own liquor is counterproductive , however I do stand by the idea that if the eursceptic voices in the conservatives are being badly promised then it is an internal matter that needs to be internally secured , “not letting matters rest there” is my understanding . It isnt that hard a decision to honour , i dont fear the pro european argument only its continued inposition by undemocratic means .
The ability for us to choose who governs us was not labours or any other party to give away . I dont not wish to be ruled by president with a supra mandate by I did not vote for .
Cammo is not a Euro-skeptic, far from it dear boy
Thats easy to answer.
Short version first.
He’s a c’unt.
Long version.
He made his promise simply to generate support.
There was never any intention to grant a referendum ( how gracious of him to actually grant us our rights eh?) it was done to keep the sceptics on side for as long as possible and to project a persona of honesty and decisivness.
Well that all fell apart when the coawardice and betrayal inherent in people like him finally got exposed.
Heir to blair/brown.
My opinions on brown the fat cock doing exactly the same thing?
Needs a gunshot to the skull really from a heavy calibre weapon.
Most of the current crop of politicians similarly with a few exceptions.
Bit disgruntled with BBC today, we never seem to be able to watch live England rugby on tv.
Not really interested in watching Wales that much.
Do the Welsh and Scots pay extra for there license fee.
Why do you want to watch a load of sweaty, ugly blokes running after each and touching each other up?
As bad as footballers all french kissing each other and giving love bites… very homo.
You are Peter Mangledbum and i claim my 5 bucks.
Only like watching a load of English ugly blokes running after each and touching each other up?
Mangledbum will take what he can get.
It was Madlebum in the Kitchen with the Rolling pin up his arse.
Oops that was Prof. Plum my mistake!
It was brown, in the study with the nokia.
Been watching the programme about the Berlin Wall and the Stasi… on tv. Puts me in mind of the present government here. Cameras everywhere, dna records, id cards on the way, innocent people fitted up, corrupt politicians, no freedom of speech, seems amazing to me that some people will sell their principles for a few miserable bawbees. There all here in Britain …..now.
I went over when it came down and got a bit of the wall. (Ah, youth…). I may add some to it and brick up no 10 when the twat’s asleep.
Oh… that could backfire. I should brick it up when he’s out.
Good idea. Wonder what would happen to any of us if we demonstrated against our government? Governments do such terrible damage to their people pretending it is done for their own good, whereas it is to prop up their own corruption, and support their own egos.
Nice save.
Labour filth probably taking notes for some tips. I bet they particularly like the idea of having a vast network of informers. Jo Brand would have done well in the GDR.
Wonder what the reaction of Straw, Livingstone, Galloway and all the rest the Marxist scum was 20 years ago to the news of the Berlin wall coming down. They must have been fucking gutted. Good. Now it’s time to make them gutted all over again.
Proves that it’s all in the hands of the people. When the people speak as one anything can be achieved.
Most don’t seem to have much of a grasp.
Galloway did say that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the saddest day of his life.
anonymous 9.21: agree the Marxist scum here must have been gutted when the Berlin Wall came down – but it didn’t make them change their ideas: they just went underground and plotted behind the scenes until 1997 gave them their chance to wreak havoc on the country. They don’t give up easily
it was a fabulous programme, though – should be compulsory viewing for leftists everywhere. Almost worth the license fee
Judging by your analytical ability, you must have been a wonderful social worker. Quite what the Berlin Wall has to do with Marxism I don’t know. Eastern Europe was blighted by state sponsored totalitarianism and was nothing to do with Marxism. Of course you’ve not read any of Marx’s writings as even a cursory glance at his work confirms that your comments are the indolent and slow-witted rants of an ignoramus. Have you thought of working in politics, by the way?
Marx = fuckwit
Marx = Arschloch
Marx= connard
Marx = cono
Marx = merda
Marx= kuracs
Marx= Hain
Which Marx brother are you on about?
The irony of browns speech didnt go unoticed the few making the many suffer , a image of the whole labour front bench sprang to mind !!
I had hoped for a quiet weekend , be carefull , it isnt just about scorched earth .
“A statement issued after the G20 meeting says the recovery is “uneven” and remains dependent on support, while unemployment is a “major” concern.
Earlier, British PM Gordon Brown called for a fund for bank bailouts, possibly paid for by a tax on transactions.
But the proposal received a lukewarm response from other G20 countries.”
BBC Online 7th November
Gordon, you half-wit, the banks need to know that if they screw up they will just collapse. A fund just encourages them to carry on (moral hazard). Too big to fail will be replaced by “the bailout fund”. Only depositers cash should be fully protected not the speculative risk taking which has wrecked the economy.
What an idiot and on the international stage, too!
BREAKING NEWS
Is Gordon supporting our guy against the other long guy 7 stones heavier?
It’’s on 5 Live now – something about Ian Don King Smith :-)
So has he finally been found out as an economically illiterate fraud and charlatan?
Of course, we all knew that anyway.
SPOT ON
The small signs of recovery are within the normal variation – ie the figures tell us nothng other than that data vary a little all the time.
Up, down, all around, just like see-saw. You remember that, Don Covay and the Good Timers, Stax, 1966.
Your job is not complete yet. Things to do:
1) Get HMRC to go after the flippers, if that is possible. Half the cabinet were at it. They should repay CGT, like Blears did.
2) Watch out for that Kennedy twat who is encouraging the unravelling of Kellly!
Gordo looks uneasily uncomfortable in the Albert Hall. Strange as he is in the company of his fellow heroes. He betrays a distinct lack of rhythm in his clapping to the ‘muster’ music.
I’m here too !!!! Wave to me !!
sent from my Taxpayer funded Blackberry
In my life I have yet to meet a left winger who would do fuck all for anyone without being paid.
Teacher,social worker,politician,charity worker,trade unionist,probation officer,film maker,musician,comedian,actor,journalist,writer and so on and so forth.
Even the lefty students wont get their skanky ass out of bed unless there is a fucking pop concert as a reward.
The day I meet an ‘Activist’ who would do something for an old neighbour or shave their balls for charity in the local boozer will be the day I eat my skidmarked pants.
DON’T FORGET US !!
Phew, I was scared someone had found a link to Karl Marx with a shaven haven.
From the Telegraph article (posted by Moley above). ‘…. many Tory sceptics are more like born-again Christians, incapable of thinking of anything else.’ Too true on this blog but – out in the real world – if I say ‘Lisbon treaty’ to anyone, they have no idea what I’m talking about. So vote UKIP in protest if you like, but don’t delude yourselves that it will be a defining electoral issue.
Yes, you do have a small brain.
This may be off message, but the Welsh Fascists are at it again. This is from BBC Wales website. Note the police said there was nothing to link the fires to Welsh extremism – well, no links they can find after a rigorous five minute inquiry.
Warnings after deliberate arsons
Fire crews were called to two fires within 40 minutes of each incident
A warning for vigilance is issued after the cause of two house fires within a few miles of each other were found to have been started deliberately.
The advice was issued by police and firefighters on Anglesey.
On Saturday morning, crews tackled a fire in a house at Ty Croes. Just a few miles away at Pencarnisiog, another fire was reported 40 minutes later.
Both fires at unoccupied holiday homes were found to have been started deliberately. No-one was injured.
North Wales Police and North Wales Fire and Rescue Service launched a joint investigation into the incidents which were caused deliberately and appear to be connected.
Both properties were unoccupied holiday homes.
Police said there was nothing to suggest that the fires were related to any Welsh extremism and police are focussing their inquiry within the locality of the offences.
Anyone who knows anything about this incident should contact their local police station or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.
OOOOOOOOPS !! SEEMS WE’VE BEEN EXTRA ‘MALADROIT’….
In answer to 272 and other moderating voices, it is true that nobody really knows what the Lisbon treaty holds in store for any of us living in this small group of islands.
None of us would be willing to scan such a vast document, most older people knowing full well that the founders of the movement i.e.. France & Germany and countries too small to do anything except fish are still the net beneficiaries (regulation nets of course).
I think some of the more independent countries, such as Spain have a slightly different attitude towards the EU project – but they have been willing to try out the Euro, despite the horrendous inflation it has caused, not to mention being relatively uncompromising on the subject of national sovereignty and other cultural sticking points that are definitely not ‘up for grabs’. They know that if all else fails the Peseta is waiting for them as a return currency.
Just reading the newspapers today, such as the Times it is very difficult not to feel an overwhelming sense of defeatism in every article. Such abject surrender would be totally alien to a new and burgeoning country such as Spain. They would not sanction such trash that we willingly tolerate out of a misplaced sense of self-effacement.
The Iberians have, moreover not banned bullfighting out of some sort of apologetic gesture towards other non-Spanish cultures: they are proud to be the people they have always been – in the face of raging unemployment and the effects of taking on foreign commitments that have made living for them both expensive and problematic.
So – in response to the question about Lisbon it would be a little misleading to say that its effect would be unequivocally bad for us. We simply do not know. Our attitude towards Lisbon, however – most of us do know already.
Perhaps when we have made fox hunting legal again and revived one or two other of our national treasured pastimes (can anyone remember what they are? – we are told weekly here what we are not allowed to do) we may be allowed to regain some of that vital confidence that the past twenty or so years has sapped from our collective psyche.
If not then we are doomed to become another boring and dull Belguim, unfortunately surrounded by a choppy sea and whipped by winds that we can not even harness for enery.
337,000 fast track immigration checks, staff encouraged to “take risks” and the secret New Labour government policy documents to swamp Britain with third world New Labour voters illegally withheld from FOI requests:-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6907991.ece
New Labour = Traitors and criminals. Hughes = criminal traitor. Straw = criminal traitor.
They have power over us. They call the shots. They run the police. So did the Nazi hierarchy and most of them ended up swinging from the gallows. Resist them! Fight now for freedom and the truth. When England has been liberated put them on trial for their crimes.
Huge, Huge, Huge, Story, what will the Tories have to say? Feck all no doubt.
As per the Times online article page 3
“Yesterday, the Tories said they would be demanding an urgent explanation of the documents from the government.
Chris Grayling, the shadow home secretary, said: “This is shaping up to become one of the major political scandals of recent times. Ministers quite clearly broke the law and deliberately misled the public to cover up a policy which most reasonable people would say was utterly irresponsible.”
I want my country back!!!!
The Sunday Times article ends with
!!!! “With up to 80% of ethnic minorities voting Labour, it is
obvious that the more immigrants who get the right to vote, the greater is Labour’s electoral share. Perhaps Mullin has stumbled on a smoking gun.” !!!!
They can’t vote, if they hold other passports (though I’ll have to check). Hell, sis-in-law, Italian passport, here for 40 years odd can’t vote. If ZanuLab are dishing votes for any new chancer. surely this is illegal.
Are they encouraged to settle in marginal constituencys by any chance?
What about Sir Bill Jeffrey who was DG of the Immigration Dept? He presided over this mess.Guess where he is now? He’s the senior civil servant causing huge problems at the MOD He should be sent to the Tower along with his boss Gus O’Donnell.
Don’t bother – just hang them.
This is dynamite, but not surprising. Zanulab hate Britain, and have had a policy of national destruction from the day they were born. It all fits in with Lisbon treaty, too. I’ve much sympathy for genuine asylum seekers, e.g. Iraquis and Afganis fleeing from Zanlabcon wars, but ‘Prison Island UK State of EUSSR’ seems to be the EU and Zanulabcon policy.
Why are these idiots having pointless wars, knowing full well the consequences? Thought for the day…
They have power over us. They call the shots. They run the police. So did the Nazi hierarchy and most of them ended up swinging from the gallows.”
Quite so-but it was only due to the yanks and russkis efforts! We are totally on our own now, remember! Only people power of our citizenry may work, but hey-we lost our bottle back in 1916, don’t you know!
No, they don’t hold power over us. This a crucial time in history to regain control.
Shocking, quite shocking! Newlabour can’t fall further into the cess pit of corruption surely, can they?
Its too late to fight back – we now are being ruled by an unelected European Government that cannot be dismissed.
Pravda, of all newspapers, greeted the news last week with the headline: “Twenty years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the EU is now a reincarnation of the Soviet Union”.
Game set and match to the Socialists!
Ruled by Germany and their poodle France – at last! and all for a few measly jobs in the short term! It won’t be long before the EU are gathering up a substantial army, then the problems will really start!
No.
They cant rule us when we wont consent to it.
That road lies revolution, bloody and prolonged and unfortunately it may be the only way for talking hasnt worked- they dont want to hear you.
The fight is clearly on and its up to us- the public to resist and infiltrate, attack and bring it down around their unelected ears.
Whatever it takes, whatever means are deemed appropriate and necessary to get our sovereignty back and the socialists/communists/totalitarianists buried.
That wont happen in 5 minutes and it wont happen without some kind of insurrection but it will happen all the same if we care to stand up and be counted.
I am NOT a chattel of the eu, or indeed any state, I AM free to decide my own future.
I will not be enslaved by laws drafted by communistic scum and filth in brussels or any other place.
Try to force the issue and reap the whirlwind.
On a war footing from this day forth.
What a load of bow locks and hardly intelligent, not even articulate. You just reduce the EU constitution to talking about bullfighting in Spain! There is absolutely no doubt in any one’s mind now that the EU project is about creating a UNITED STATES OF EUROPE, whether the masses want it or not. And even if the masses don’t want it! That’s why they daren’t let the people have a vote on it cos the unelected political elite know best,just like itler.
itler was democratically elected and went on take take all powers himself, just like the unelected bureaucrats are doing in Brussels. You obviously have no respect nor consideration for democracy.
Millions of our fellow country men died in 2 world wars to keep us free and democratic. They should not have bothered. Blair and Brown have sold this country out and bankrupted us in the process!
Yeah exactly. So what are you going to do about it?
My local is doin a bonfire night special…
You get 2 beers, a muslim, a can of petrol and box of matches.
It’s called ‘Two pints of lager and a p’aki to crisp’!!!!
Love it!!!
I lolled!!!
So did I
Fuck me!I’ve wet ‘em.
Don’t be such disgusting racists!
Would it be racist if the muslim was white?
two pints of lager and a packet of crisps lol…
How about this then guys and gals ??
Twitter. The bit of skin between twat and shitter.
http://little-object-a.blogspot.com/2009/11/home-office-covered-up-immigration-risk_08.html
Bastards bastards bastards
Fuck off you cυnt Fawkes
I posted a gentle tease about tat’s lack of a social life and got modded, then some seriously crude abuse at Guido and it got through. Ergo Guido is protecting tat, so he’s not really top boy at all. Come on Guido, stop protecting him. I love his posts but he must be able to take it as well as dish it out.
I am not sure if that is an accusation or a compliment
That Tat’s a born comedian and rabble rouser.Will we ever learn his true identity?I picture an excitable 14 year old with tourettes,fidgeting at his work station,whilst whacking out his energy into cyberspace.The reality is probably a 45 year old accounts clerk who lives with his mother in suburbia.
He once pulled here,but it proved to be a doomed affair,and he is proof of the old adage of it is better to have loved and to have lost than to have never taken prisoners at all.
oh contrair , i think TaT is about 30 and works in the legal profession or finance .
peado shorts on the other hand is a cambridge graduate who got turned down for media work by david arrononvitch
top boy’s sunday meditation(cripples’ edition):
medidate on this motherfuckers: we must all know our place.
you know, everyone needs to know what their position in the queue is.
you are my fans so you are at the back of the queue, you are not really important at all so it does not matter if you have to queue up for fucking ages.
I am top boy, so I am, ofcourse, at the front of the queue.
you see, we must all know our place.
it’d be anarchy otherwise, innit.
here endeth today’s meditation.
ps I trust all of you have ensured that your thick as thieves subscription fees are up to date? there will ofcourse be an extra charge made by direct debit upon your bank accounts for the face time you have been privileged to enjoy with your hero today.
consider it the price of an education.
Interesting theory on ruin calling general elction early so he doesnt have to make a budget !!
unelected , unable to answer questions on economy , trying to abscond before budget !! I think that would fall into the crook catagory .
CW met up with some devoute labour people today (and lib dems) and they rolled out the sort of confident party lines designed to corner right wing opinions from the start , they quickly worked out I hadnt turned zombie yet and then bizzrely didnt want to engage me , and even better started getting a bit irate . I thought hang on somthings wrong here they usueally drench me in cockwaffle about any subject they like , despite the confident front , they looked a bit uneasy , mention the ruin and they go ballistic , CW thinks ruin is costing them dear on doorstep and some core voters are using the word betrayed ! Dont know whats going off , but there was a whiff of scorched earth locally
Interesting. So ze McRuin is a liability n’est pas? As sure as day follows night, this was spotted at the dawn of ZanuLab Eco-Socio War Criminal Party. RIP Zanu Crooks. Yippee!…
CW. You’re obviously ‘in’ with the Labour crowd. Q: Why does no-one have the guts to sink Gordon McSnotgobbler Eco-socio War Criminal Brown? Just curious!
Add… no defence review for years and ending of traditional annual treasury reports and probably a few others which I cant bring to mind at the moment, put it all together and you get a one man Mc Dictator. No mention on Marr of him making a prat of himself again at G20 (surprise, surprise).
These Sat 7 up postings are so rubbish.
What happened to promises on this blog earlier this year about having the ability to vote up or down comments like digg or reddit ?
Thumbs appeared for a few hours – but shagged the site so much they disappeared again.
It was hilarious!
All these posts were shooting up and down the page as it loaded on to the screen.
And the up and down thumbs were waving up and down as much as Brown’s jaw.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Should read
Your country is awaiting molestation by the EUSSR
Oh us Little Englishlanders are going to get such a kicking from EUSSR. Toxic dumping ground for EU waste and that’s more immigration!
A must read
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/liamhalligan/6521350/This-financial-mess-isnt-even-the-end-of-the-beginning-for-UK-wealth.html
By Liam Halligan
Published: 8:49PM GMT 07 Nov 2009
Liam’s explaining the bleeding obvious, in a good way. First step is to consign Zanulab to the dustbin. We can’t keep these parasites alive.
If CMD was an honest broker then from the very beginning he would and could have laid his cards on the table.
(a) What we will do if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified
(b) What we will do in the unlikely event that the Lisbon \Treaty is not ratified.
Simples.
When we heard about his proposed referendum I am sure there were many of us who asked ourselves – “and if the Treaty is ratified before you are elected CMD – what then?”
It was never very likely that the Treaty was not going to be ratified before the next election was there? It was a done deal.
Is it ok to come out now?
Didn’t do me any harm, dear, I’m now a well-paid New Labour court jester!
Yes, but manage it better than I did.
Just go on Gaydar in your best knickers – worked for me, I’ve had tons of offers. Not all of them that kind, it must be said.
I can’t give you any advice on this, really.
Great line from Louis Walsh on last night’s x-factor “”Gordon Brown and Simon Cowell both have something in common. Neither of them know what the public want.”
Brown has become a national and international joke.
Music and politics (well, society) going the same way. All style and no substance, manipulative mind-numbing crap. We should take the vote from anyone who watches this braindead wank. Ferfuxsake.
AND the Yanks and Canadians take 5 seconds to dismiss Brown’s “Cunning Plan” or a banking tax
“U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner flatly rejected the idea, as did Canadian finance minister Jim Flaherty and their Russian counterpart Alexei Kudrin.
Mr Geithner said: ‘A day-to-day financial transaction tax is not something we are prepared to support.’
He later told a news conference: ‘This is an idea that has been around for a long time.
‘Many countries have a lot of experience with the design of these kinds of taxes. I think, frankly, the experience has been mixed.’
And Mr Flaherty said: ‘We are not in the business of raising taxes, we are in the business of lowering taxes in Canada. It is not an idea we would look at.’
Mr Kudrin said: ‘I am a sceptic on such taxes. Gordon Brown is known for always raising taxes.’
The head of the IMF, Dominique Strauss-Khan, said he believed a transaction tax was unlikely to be adopted as ‘transactions’ were difficult to measure.
To work, the tax would have had to be adopted by all the world’s major financial centres.
And the British Bankers’ Association chief executive Angela Knight said: ‘The reason it has never been implemented is, while theoretically it is OK, practically it doesn’t operate.’ ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226013/Humiliation-Brown-plan-global-banking-tax-rejected-U-S-G20-meeting.html#ixzz0WG9EHkR8
Other countries it seems will take no lectures from the leader of a bankrupted country still in recession and who will be unemployed himself in 7 months
Thats cos browns a big fat failure mode walking around with fuck all idea of anything.
He thinks hes the bees knees, the reality is he’s a load of old bollocks.
I reckon his heads full to the brim with pig shit just a swilling around.
I bet Haye is glad that Brown didn’t wish him luck before his fight.
Rewatched HIGNFY in the wee small hours and noticed something which escaped me the first time round. Hope Toenails enjoyed his small beer.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/07/article-1226069-070CB833000005DC-120_468×626.jpg
Caption: Mandelson-appointed minder steers Brown towards a patch of woodland.
There’s more than a passing resemblance to Tony Hancock I feel.
McSnot (in Hancock’s voice): Stone Me!
Crowd: Gladly! Watkins – another brick please….
Exit stage left
Gordon, helpfully, “Is that a gun in your bum-bag, Big Boy? Can we jog through the woods together?”
Why has the policeman got three legs? Is he Special Branch?
cos he’s well endowed…
Blimey -the bodyguard has a belly too!
This is simply another PR effort to project fatso mouth grinder.
Of all the people who will sadly have a heart attack this coming week,why can’t this piece of crap have one?
It’s just not fair.
What a fucking mess he looks, what a sack of shit, it looks like the first and only time he has ever jogged in his life, the worthless tosser!
well done Haye ,now take gordon out
Found this in the mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226031/EXPOSED-How-Labour-depends-votes-Welfare-Britain.html
Addict society. As long as it seems Labour will cut less than anyone else they will get back in. Voting is nothing to do with tax rates or interest rates. Too many voters never see a tax bill or an interest rate in any way related to the bank rate.
It is a hand out culture. Bonuses for banking. Expenses for MPs. Tax credits for the poor. Single parent paid housing etc. Huge promise of payments for unviable power generation. Free country wide travel. Pointless local council jobs. Local community projects/bribes.
Forget the old politics, this country can not stand any thought of suffering cold turkey in May. It is hooked on Labour.
The only alternate is to promise something impossible under EU law: a meaning to life. While it seems that others can take your born right, right to an affordable secure home, right to a living wage if you work, a right to a higher rewards for working harder, the right to plan for the future without the rules changing/wealth stolen, everyone will cling to the only security blanket they have; Labour.
Just wait for Blu-Labour.
Why, will it clean under the rim after a dodgy biryani?
Not really. It looks quite nice in the can, but when you deploy it, it all turns to shit…
Regarding Gordon’s “transaction tax” for banking, has anyone noticed that his solution to almost every problem involves taking money from people?
Clue: Caledonian C’unt
He’s a lunatic, fixated on raising tax from anything. I say lower taxes, but the guy’s a total socio-path, so I won’t bother saying where the tax should come from, whilst the lunatic is still running the asylum. FFS will someone put a bullet in his head?
No, I hadn’t noticed, to be perfectly frank. I’m far too busy surviving financially to notice small details like that.
the jonah curse carrys on
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6908003.ece
fawkes love the guidogram ,how long before gordon taxes it ?
No cuts gordon ? wont harm the young gordon ?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/08/labour-spending-cuts-training-young
AND THIS TOO:
Graduate Unemployment tops 100,000 and unemployment of under 25’s to top 1 million(THAT’S ONE MILLION GORDON) according to ONS.It will be 2013 BEFORE Graduates unemployment starts to level out.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article6908090.ece
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/career_and_jobs/graduate_management/article6907910.ece
how can I get poo stripes out of the matress?
I’ve got an idea..
Shit, someone’s using my moniker too. Shit.
Mark Oaten.
NOT MY POST!
Mine neither.
I wouldn’t worry about it too much one flew over.
your posts are shit and your imposter’s posts are shit as well.
you are both as shit as each other.
I wish you would just both fuck off.
you pair of wankers.
331 he looks a bit of a retard in that picture does he not. Imagine meeting that in the street as you go for your morning run – doesn’t bear thinking about.
Semen
Any more news on Mad Nad?
If she didn’t exist you would have to invent her.
You really have picked a right one with her.
Hypocrisy is only the start.
A bit like yourself.
Big question is what “lengths” has she taken to get a social life after her man did a runner?
David Cameron is an FSB agent, codnamed “cast Iron” (литое железо),
once installed, completes few years moves onto Euro-commissar.
Again we have fooled you pathetiski English
Good Morning Comrade,
Hope you are well?
OT perhaps but this is I think an open post.
I listened to Vince Cable and others on AQ yestreday and was struck just how spineless, British hating and indeed seemingly self-hating our political classes seem to be. It is as if they want to fail in Afghanistan so they can blame everybody else for it happening, without at all considering the consequences.
In the wake of an American panellist, who’s name I can’t even be bothered to recall who tried utterly wrongly – to compar Afghanistan to Vietnam, Vince Cable in particluar was happy to bang on about how Britian lost twice in Afghanistan and had an army of 20,000 ‘massacred’. His grasp of history, like so many post-colonial self haters, is partial.
The notable destruction of a British column on the notorius retrest from Kabul occured in atrocius conditions against overwhelming odds. Most in the column were civilians – only one British Infantry Battalion was present, the 44th. They were finally overrun when out of ammunition at Gandemack. They fought to the last man. Their stand remains fokelore – in Afghanistan – were Britsh soldiers remain respected as ‘the Sons of Lions’. Furthermore, a British columne re-entered Afghanistan the following spring and destroyed an Afghan army outside Kabul, torched the place a marched home to secure the forntier and no one bothered them. Got that Vince?
So, is the war in Afganhistan winnable? Like all wars, yes – dependent on how much effort and the level of rescources one is willign to commit. Louis XIV once asked one of his key military advisors, Baron Gibreval what was needed to be succesful in war. he replied, “Three things, sire. Money, Money and Money”.
What was appalling to me listening to Flint, Cable et al yesterday was the actual disconnect these people have with the reality of our situation and how it all ties together. To listen to them point score againt each other is nothing short of offensive given the times we find ourselves in.
To win in Afghanistan we need to first fix the economy, in order to deliver the revenues to procure and deliver the resources to fight and to win – in military, political and developmental terms.
Second, we need leadership – a loyal pro-British government in Westminster that believes in the primacy of the UK to make descisons alone and with its allies. We need a government that morally, politically and patriotically (sorry unfashionable word I know these days) – supports the Military in the conflict. What resides in Westminster at the moment is the anti-thesis of this requirment. Recent ‘revelations’ about Labours loyalties to Moscow and not ‘revelations’ to many of us. Now the Soviet Union has gone and they can’t make us Britian SSR Labour have opted for subborning us to their new masters in Brussels. A government that is not loyal to its own country and people cannot succeed in war. Labours treachery to the UK and hatred of the Military is summed up in the appointment of the current incumbent Defence Minister, one IRA sympathiser Bob Ainsworth.
Thirdly, it needs explained why we are there. No-one seems to know. The recent statement by yet another Labour minister, that it is to secure the UKs borders is so ridiculous it defies description. Thanks to a Labour government that we now know through uncontrolled mass immigartion – deliberalty committed demographic terrorism against the UK to ‘rub the Rights nose in diversity’ has ensured that a deadly enemy is already amongst us and most in constituencies voting Labour.
So three points so far. Not enough money, resources to fight as the government have wrecked the economy and refuse to fix it properly to save the country but instead their own hopelsss politcal short term position. The UK is led by a government who are as much enemies and a threat to the UK as AQ, Taleban or home grown Islamist Terror group. In other words we are fighting on three fronts, in Afghanistan, Westminster and in the Streets and Mosques of places like Bradford, Dewsbury and Finsbury Park. All the while of course, through their dismissal of Britsh Military history in effect ‘lionise’ the enemy.
And finally our own response. Five soldiers are killed in a murderous and cowardly attack. Thats war, thats terrorism. It happens. If we decided after our first defate in North Africa in WW2, “Oh dear, we had some people killed, lets bring the troops home” Well folks here is a newsflash, we’d all be speaking German now (or Russian). As a former serviceman I buried seven comrades over th course of the years and we dind’t have a Wooton Bassett. The grief of widows and fatehrless children is tangible and it is very sad. But such people do not become experts on military or geo-strategic affairs on the death of a loved one. I am quite sure that we are approaching the point where a celebrity widow will emerge, no doubt interviewed every time there is a casualty, in order to get her expert insight as to the prosecution of the war. One may even end up on X-factor as a judge. I wouldn’t wrtie that possibilty off. perhaps we may even have a “War Bereaved Commissioner” to follow the recent “Victims Commissioner”. My point being of course, in war soldiers get killed. It is sad for their families – but given our casualty levels are very small indeed compared even to the relatively recent Falklands war in 1982, then we muat ask ourselves what level of spinelessness have we fallen to as a country if we want to turn tail and run when soldiers are killed. A country that cannot sustain in war, cannot sustain as a state.
Respect for our past, respect for our forces, politcal will to fix the econmy to rpovide the resources needed to win. melded with a will to win and the leadrship to do so, to explain to the country why and to tackle the enemey here at home too. An injection of some spine. This is what is needed. Afghanisatn will always be a pretty lawless place, but managable. We can win. The alternative is unthinkable, because it is a nuclear armed Jihadist movement on the warpath.
Removing our enemey government next may is necessary to reduce the fighting from three to two fronts. At least it will be a start.
Afghanistan used to be a ‘Just’ war once. But even then I suspected the motives of wanker Blair.
The level of Britains commitment is way out of proportion to our other European ‘Friends’.
They all sent small contingents of troops. Many have a leaving date. And Obama has his tongue up their arse.Maybe Britain should learn to pay hard to get.
It is the spirit in which our guys were sent and the hypocritical self serving bastards who sent them that I think is the problem for the public.
What’s your point? Lives are being lost, for a war of sinister reasons not disclosed to the public.
We are invading another country on several false premises, and for reasons that have never been truthfully/adequately explained. Spare a thought for the lives of the indigenous people in Afghanistan. Their lives have been totally wrecked. Remember, there would not be terrorists to fight if the bastard Blair hadn’t illegally invaded Iraq.
Was it not all about the Caspian Sea pipe line?
Too long …………..
Hey McRuin. You and your fascist gov’t are gone soon. You won’t read articles like the one above, ‘cos you don’t care about our troops, ‘cos you don’t care about Britain. We will try to forget you, but will remember our troops sacrifices. You’re a complete arsehole… ARE YOU LISTENING, IDIOT.
Is this a comedy post ? a piss-take ? because it’s so ludicrously out of touch with what is happening in Afghanistan it must be.
“To win in Afghanistan we need to first fix the economy, in order to deliver the revenues to procure and deliver the resources to fight and to win”
The Big projects military spends which are under threat from the recession are Trident, the Aircraft Carriers and the Eurofighter. Perhaps you could explain how any of these are going to help in mountainous landlocked Afghanistan ? Or where you think we can magic up say a quarter of a million troops (roughly the same the soviets had when before got their arses booted out of Afghanistan) and the Helicopters and troop carrying equipment to keep them safe ?
“Second, we need leadership – a loyal pro-British government in Westminster that believes in the primacy of the UK to make descisons alone and with its allies. We need a government that morally, politically and patriotically (sorry unfashionable word I know these days) – supports the Military in the conflict. ”
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to imply Afghanistan is an unwinnable Quagmire because New Labour are Soviet plants ? DO fuck off and have that tin-foil hat looked at.
The Political Leadership needed is in AFGHANISTAN. One that isn’t a corrupt fraudulent Taliban recruiter. Sorry chum we’re stuck with the sleazy Mayor of Kabul for another 4 years so that ain’t gonna happen. If you think a new twat in number 10 waving a Union Jack every time he talks about Afghanistan is going to turn this around you are equally delusional.
“Thirdly, it needs explained why we are there. No-one seems to know.”
Including you.
You think Cameron or anyone else is going to pull a magic justification out of their arse do you ? Not going to happen. The public knows the so called ‘justifications’ don’t stack up and after 8 years it’s too late now to make any new ones up.
“And finally our own response. Five soldiers are killed in a murderous and cowardly attack. Thats war, thats terrorism. It happens. If we decided after our first defate in North Africa in WW2,”
It’s terrorism committed by the very Police that are supposed to be being trained to take the British Army’s place. So it highlights how fucking far from reality that is and the kind of thugs and militia some are pretending could enforce Law in the country instead of taking bribes, taking drugs, robbing, commiting violence on the population and generally ensuring the Taliban are welcomed rather than hated.
“An injection of some spine. This is what is needed.”
A stiff upper lip. Yeah right Colonel blimp! That will turn around a viscious insurgency in a country of some 38 million with a corrupt Government.
Jeeesus Christ!
This isn’t World War 2 though it has gone on longer.
It simply doesn’t have any clear aims, moral imperative or coherent exit strategy.
The public were behind the Falklands and World War 2. They aren’t behind this disasterous mess.
“The alternative is unthinkable, because it is a nuclear armed Jihadist movement on the warpath.”
And you certainly haven’t put very much thought into that.
The insurgency is Afghanistan is about Afghanistan which contains no wepaons of mass destruction.
The insurgency are not global jihadists but consist of Pushtun seperatists, Warlords, tribal leaders, religious councils, Tajiks, drug kingpinbs and many other disperate factions the lazy like to lump into a fictitious homogenised Taliban. They are united by wanting foreign troops out of their country and a corrupt Government in Kabul.
The faction in the northeast border provinces of P-stan have always been obsessed by P-stan because most of them were trained and funded by the P-stan ISI.
P-stan has Nuclear Weapons not Afghanistan. If we want to stop them from falling into extremist hands continuing to destabalise P-Stan by supplying more and more radicalised Afghans from the occupation into the extremists hands seems a bit dumb.
If you want to help P-Stan then put the case for troops in P-Stan because fighting in Helmand is a very long way from that fight.
But you continue living in a dreamworld because the reality is Britain’s strategy is being decided in the US right now. If Obama pumps more troops in as expected then Cameron has 5 years of this pointless carnage to try and turn around with public relations spin. His only other choice is having his own Policy on the War and setting a withdrawall date which some on his back-benches are urging right now.
How Ironic, you reinforce my own thoughts with your own words! You seem to add two and two and come up with fourteen. A beneficiary of our wonderful anti=knowledge state school system perhaps?
Resources, Leadership and Willpower. We need these we have little or none.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/6528767/To-abandon-Afghanistan-now-would-be-a-betrayal-of-the-fallen.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article6907747.ece
Mandelson gets shunted up the rear again !!
Superb writing.
Tie Mandelson to the front of a van and drive him round the country until he’s dead. Great idea, I think there will be much support around the country. I fell asleep at the wheel earlier this year, so maybe I could drive?
Brilliant. Little wonder the left, and even the BBC who employee him, hate him so much.
I wonder if Top Gear will come back.
The first pargraph of a cracking rant.
“I’ve given the matter a great deal of thought all week, and I’m afraid I’ve decided that it’s no good putting Peter Mandelson in a prison. I’m afraid he will have to be tied to the front of a van and driven round the country until he isn’t alive any more.”
Great stuff! Not a great fan of Clarkson, but he’s got the guts to tell it as it is! Love to see him grapple with mandlescum and skewer him onto the front of a white ford transit! He would get on ok in France where the country is quite obsessed with vintage and retro cars, people nice, and long-suffering, and the climate vg in parts.
My apologies for the Typos in my last post. AQ yesterday really wound me up.
Brown’s political career started the evening he carefully loaded two house bricks and some empty cans into a carrier bags and set out into the night to defraud his fellow students, going to a social gathering drinking beer paid for by others whilst he contributed a bag of nothing.
Since that evening, his lies have grown exponentially to a point where the numbers are actually too big ……………. a global tax on financial transactions?
Brown is a fraudster, a liar, a sneak, a cheat and a failure
It’s a proven fact how criminals invariably stick their MO throughout their careers.
Fookin in el. BBC Marr: Hague’s digging a hole. There won’t be another treaty or amendments, Thicko. WHERE’S OUR REFERENDUM DODGY DAVE?
… and McRuin can piss off to the graveyard. What a Chump.
EuroDave has SPOKEN…
On the contrary, he’s digging himself and the Tories out of a hole. The MSM would have loved to be able to beat the Tories over the head with the Euro stick come the election. The battle for getting us out of Europe has been lost, but surely the war goes on. In fact ‘Europe’ as a concept will crumble in time of it’s own inertia, just as surely as the Soviet Union did. Centalising socialists don’t really get how the real world works.
The battle has not been lost, just because Dave’s flying the white flag.
Correct. It must not be!
Err…I said the battle has been lost but not the war you fucking retards. Can’t you fucking read FFS?!!k
Yeah. but why can’t we get it over with now, democratically, instead of civil wars in 5 years time? These EU thickos really are thick.
Brown at The Cenotaph – looking like a man who has crawled out of a hole not far away having been interrupted from his task of analysing tractor production figures.
Never has one man done so much harm to so many in the name of the nasty socialism that he brews from his communist teapot.
The ONLY consolation is that in exactly one year’s time – to the minute – he will not be there.
and him squinting to rediscover his position with Bliar gurning in the back ground
Just back from our own little ceremony. Haven’t seen TV footage yet. What in the name of all that’s holy was Blair doing there? FFS – it’s him and his sewermates that perpetuate war.
Bastard Blair, the man who started it all, surely he didn’t have the nerve to turn up did he?
A brew made with polonium teabags, the radioactive trail can be followed after the event but by then its too late, a slow, lingering and inevitable death will follow, there is no antidote.
I wonder wher he in fact will be in exactly a year’s time?
We should re-open one of those fantastic old Victorian Mental Hospitals, you know, the ones that sat rotting behind a screen of diseased Elms, and strap him onto a long-disused bench in an abandoned ECT suite. We could then take turns in administering dynamo-loads of fizzing, popping leccy to his nasty brain. I’d like to bring along some vile New Labour neighbours of mine, too. See if they’d also like some action.
Unusually Brown had a lobotomy first and was then given the job of Chancellor of the Exchequer and Prime Minister.
But a lobotomy is only a small part of the brain removed. There must be something left for us to fry? A shrivelled amygdala, perhaps.
Now here’s a true story about one of the huge mental institutes – I was a salesman back in the mid ’80’s and we had the contract for the NHS/MOD to supply cooking oil etc.
I visited one of the Mental Hospital’s in Hertfordshire – was it Leavesdon?
I met the Catering Manager and wrapped up the visit,returning to my car in the hospital car park, where I sat and wrote my notes.I looked up and in the rear view mirror,I saw a manhole in the car park lifting up.
I sat transfixed as I saw 3 men pull themselves up out of the man hole ,replace the cover and walk off.
To this day,I have no idea who they were – contractors,staff,inmates?
Most of those places have been turned in to elegant apartments – perhaps one of them could be re-opened for the whole of the Labour cabinet.
Of course Brown deserves his own wing – not the “West Wing” – more like “The Detested Wing”.
He should be manacled to the bastard Blair, joined together forever and ever and ever.
Why couldnt the Hoon even bow his head for a moment after laying the wreath?
He can’t think straight with all the shit I’m feeding him.
Having watched the Cenotaph remembrance sevice. I can only conclude that the true friends of Britain are the commonwealth countries.
STUFF EUROPE, STUFF BROWN and STUFF HEATH.
although who was the commonwealth representative who was chewing gum?
That arrogant turd Brown “the Snot” is. He was the only politician NOT to bow his head after laying a wreath at the Cenotaph just now. If they were Israeli soldiers he’d be crawling on his hands and knees. What a vile little shit he is.
Guido, for the sake of our boys in the forces, please get video of this and big it up.
The biggest threat to UK security is Gordon fuckwit brown and his moronic cabinet.
Wait till the Cameroons get in, even this blog will be full of his “wonderous deeds”.
Zanulab, Zanucon, no difference. Things will contniue AS THEY WILL .
AS IT IS, So Be it…
Unbelievable!
Brown went up to the Cenotaph, left his wreath, took two steps back and then simply walked away!!!
This idiot, this cretin, this freak of nature forgot to bow his head.
Our Dear Prime Minister shows his true contempt for our military.
Absolutely disgraceful!!!
Truly despicable
Thats because of his brass neck
And hideous head attached with bolts.
The Labour scum look totally out of place and very uncomfortable indeed at these sort of events. A lifetime hating, plotting and scheming against this country cannot be hidden so easily with a suit and a poppy.
I would have preferred it if all the political swine stayed away. We don’t need your grandstanding. The dead and living weren’t fighting for you establishment bastards to piss away our country, so fuck off.
Never mind he won’t be present next year – certainly not as PM and I doubt very much if he’ll attend his his capacity as an ex-PM either
He’s totally self absorbed. Yesterday in Scotland when he was being booed he scuttled in to the building without a backward glance to check if his wife was ok and safely coming along behind!
In Gordon’s defence he is slightly pre occupied by the force fed shit I am serving him on a daily basis. All this means is that Sarah and you serfs are on the back burner for a while while we aim to conclude our agenda.
Thanks to all for your co-operation!
He didn’t “forget” to bow his head. He wanted to show his contempt for our generals and troops and the fact that he bows to no man.
I hope the troops remember this gross act of disrespect. It would make me sick if the Queen ever bestows any honour on this hubristic freak.
I think that today, at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month should be for rememberance, nothing more, nothing less. The fallen should be remembered for their sacrifice, this is not a time to pass comment on the participants. This is a day when we should remember the fallen. My family lost loved ones in the first world war and the second world war, and this is the day, we think of them and their comrades, the Cenotaph ceremony is very humbling.
This is the 8th day.
It’s very humbug too! I love to see the brave men who were conscripts in the first and second world wars, and the other heroes. But to see men in long black coats who have been responsible for starting wars, illegal wars, and thus responsible for their deaths makes me mad. They are 100% hypocrits. Also I think innocent people who are killed during the course of war should be remembered.
If you read your history, the Armistice Treaty was signed in a railway carriage in the Compiegne Forest on 11th November 1918 to come into effect at 11am, that is what I was referring to. I do not want to be dogmatic about the moment. To some it means something to others it means nothing, it depends who you are. It means a lot to me and my family. As I am sure you know that the ceremony falls to the first Sunday in November, that is why it is the 8th today.
Let the record show that the Cameron government came into being on November 4 2009.
dodgy dave, what have you done?
you made a fool of the constitution
you’ve made a fool of everyone
dodgy dave oh what have you done
dodgy dave, you broke the constitution
you ripped it up for all to see
you ripped it up for all to see
dodgy dave you broke the constitution
a sunny day the constitution was looking for a defender
you came along to stitch up everyone
dodgy dave the most useless c’unt of all
dodgy dave how can you sleep?
the constitution was depending on you
the constitution was depending on you
dodgy dave oh oh how do you sleep?
dodgy dave you’ll get yours yet
however big you think you are
however big you think you are
dodgy dave oh yeah you’ll get yours yet
you did and said anything to sit at the table
just a smile and the rest was just lying
dodgy dave he is the latest and the greatest of the whores
you made a fool of the constitution
however big you think you are
you’ll get yours c’unt.
john lennon (with slight tat adjustments)
Pure tat.
Good on ye tat, but what about referring to the gorgon and the bastard Blair, who started it all, while you’re about it?
Honoured TAT. Now I’ve screwed things up, where’s that line?
FFS. WHERE’S OUR REFERENDUM DODGY DAVE? (repeat 20 times a day, until you believe)
Labour have no money to fight the election and are having cuts forced on them by their bankers.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6908003.ece
It comes as no surprise that in the run up to our election, UKIP MEPs are being targeted by Europe in financial investigations. Labour pulling strings again?
Given that Europe has produced no properly audited accounts for years, this tactic is a little obvious; are UKIP the only suspicious characters in Europe?
What about all those MEPs who were filmed clocking on with packed suitcases ready for a quick getaway?
Yes Morley.
For those of you who may have missed it: Troughing MEP’s