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Let ‘em burn!!
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Of course..it’s those naughty tories isn’t it?
FFS
equally as bad as nulab
The Conservitudes’ are a bent bunch.
they are ALL BENT!
I like them any way they come ducky.
IT’S ALL THATCHER’S FAULT!!
See you all tomorrow. BRING CAMERAS
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/11/november-5th-remember-remember.html
Important Statement
Today I stand before the British people and with a heavy heart have to tell them that the Lisbon Treaty has been ratified and that my “cast iron” promise of a referendum is now little more than a rusting hulk at the bottom of the UK garden.
However, I pledge to work tirelessly with our parners in the EU, I further pledge that I will personally, if elected, sign an amendment that will never again allow any future treaty to be passed without the approval of the British people.
I understand that there are some out there who will say that no future treaty is required and that Lisbon is self amending, so no future British Government will have any say whatsoever in future EU legislation.
Well I say to them quite candidly, yes that may be true, however I will not indulge in gesture politics, cast iron guarantees, or meaningless promises, the British people are, rightly fed up with such politics and rightly we have listened to them and from now on, my party will not get involved in such matters.
Instead we will work with our European partners delivering the kind of country that they feel the UK should be.
I therefore ask the British people to buy my redundant Referendum Lock, and proclaim with cast iron determination, NEVER AGAIN!!
Harriden Pride>>>> Where are those lezzy pictures that you promised me?
The Inquisition
I didn’t expect that.
nobody does.
I had wondered if Guido had been so well refuelled by the Gruaniad hacks that he had forgotten again.
good article that…
If the article is true and cabinet minsters do read the articles I’d like to take the opportunity to say a big ‘FUCK OFF’ to our Minister for Torture, Jack fucking Straw.
Thank you.
I would like to add the words:
Traitor & Rope
Happy reading Jack – & dont forget to claim an EU Passport – you are going to need somewhere to run like the rest of your treasonous recycled marxist whores in New Labour
I notice the Strawman had a contented smirk on his face during PQT. Europe’s going his way and on schedule. Thanks Dave.
Straw Man has always had looked like smug git, he’s just got one of those faces that you want to punch. I first met him in 1980 or ‘81, can’t entirely remember now, but I recall thinking on that first meeting, what a slimy twat! Oddly enough we bumped into Eric Heffer later that day and he called the Straw Man an oily twat too : top fella Eric (for a scouser)
lol, rather amusing. Well written article though, obviously the Grauniad hack didn’t partake in quite as many beverages as our host!
What article??
yeah man what article
Seen Elsewhere link
‘Shit I missed PMQ..’
Can’t run either by the sound of things.
‘He’s just scum,’ says someone close to McBride.
[Right, so that's either McBride's mum or the school janitor.]
‘Yeah, well, y’know,’ says Fawkes, folding his hands behind his head, ‘I’ve got the whole world queueing up to give me a blowjob.’
[Well, all right, not quite. But nearly.]
Can I be the first?
Is it pension day?
Is it Giro Day Tom?
Just been told that in Newcastle there are going to be effigies of Brown hung from lamp-posts on Nov 5th! In Newcastle!!! I think I am going to copy that idea here in Durham- I bet i can get a brown mask from a joke shop…
can we get the real thing?
yeah but hang Brown REALLY slowly.
Can we hang the whole Cabinet, one from each lamp post on Westminster Bridge?
Bugger. There aren’t any lamp-posts near here.
Imagine a dog relieving itself against a cast iron lamp post.
Imagine Cameo’s guarantee on a plebiscite on the Lisbon Treaty.
Imagine the Conservitudes’ view of the ordinary people of Britain.
Tally ho!
That would probably tally with the socialist view of the ordinary people of Britain.
Remind me who made a manifesto commitment to a referendum, then signed the treaty on the quiet?
Of course Labour manifesto commitments cannot therefore be ‘cast iron guarantees’ either based on past performance.
Cast iron guarantee
Tory nutters locked in their kennels, how does it feel?
Hahahaha
Imagine you with a brain.
MB does have a valid point…
Imagine a dog stooped over, straining at the base of a cast iron lamp post.
Imagine Cameo’s cast iron guarantee of a plebiscite on the Lisbon Treaty.
Imagine Cameo’s view of ordinary British people.
Tally ho!
“Imagine you with a brain.”
Sorry, it’s just not working.
Is this what you imagine when you’re having a wank MB, you sad little tosser?
No.
What’s it like being locked in a dirty kennel with all the other Tory Euro Septic loonies?
What’s the view like?
I’ll take that as a yes.
Dunno, MB, I’m not a Tory so I can’t say.
Maybe you can tell us what it feels like to whore for a bunch of fraudsters and war criminals? Is your Mum proud of what you’ve become?
MB = retard
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht! Gordon’s balls are the size of frozen peas (after they have thawed out). Mumsie, where is my rocket salad!
Cameo?
Word up!
Like some Tory Faggot
Tory BEAR (get my frift darlings)
Effigies of Newcastle Brown Ale, I think you’ll find. Just like any other night in the Bigg Market.
OT
Nice quotes from War Hero Chris Finney there.
After the ‘Up Yours’ picture of Brown this morning Labour are going to be lucky to get 150 seats if The Sun keeps up that kind of coverage for the next six months.
That so called war hero is talking out of his arse.
He said, “I couldn’t believe it when I read that Gordon Brown had phoned Simon Cowell to ask how Britain’s Got Talent contestant Susan Boyle was when she had a breakdown. He doesn’t phone any of the bereaved families. I thought that was absolutely disgusting, a real slap in the face for the parents of the hundreds of soldiers killed.”
Gordon hates the trivialisation of politics and he said so himself in an interview with pop gossip, Piers Morgan.
Telephoning to ask about Susan Boyle shows that he cares and he has the common touch.
Medusa touch morelike.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
We’re in favour of QE (quantitative easing) continuing, print money!
Now we’re in favour of the Lisbon Treaty too.
Reverse, reverse, reverse!
Oops!
oh dear.
you can’t even do the most basic propaganda without fucking it up.
you useless c’unt.
Kerching!
tat is a guidiot the oaf clone used to flatter the site’s stats.
a tatbot (cheer up guidiot the secret is safe)
The usual witless dross from MB.
Yawn.
You are the arse.
Stupid gullible twit.
Some people like to masquerade as Master Baiter, like the person above insulting ex-soldiers. Illustrates well the mind set of the dimwitted right wing trollops that infest this site.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Ah how sweet, the blog host can see what’s going on (as can others), so unless the person doing the masquerading is guidiot the oaf, it’s a precarious tactic, hardly surprising though with the right wing and shallow end of the gene pool that infests this site.
Hahahaha
But no phone calls to the grieving families of British soldiers from Heir Brown.
Funny that.
It would seem that you are providing a loud chorus from the same place.He is not a ’so called’ war hero – he was awarded the George Cross.
Of course this cannot match the bravery you exhibit in you various delusional postings on here.
Tell me what makes you think smearing soldiers is clever?
Try to make some form of rendezvous with reality, lumpen one.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
‘So called war hero’.
Explain yourself jackass.
And then fuck off stalker.
The recipient of the George Cross is a hero.
Good luck to him he deserves it, why not give him a job?
The person masquerading as Master Baiter above is simply insulting a hero.
So you aren’t masquerading as Master Baiter? That really is the name you’re going to be getting on your identity card?
That’s not MB either.
The real MB, in character, would never defend the military. See General Dannat for details.
General Dannatt is or more accurately was staff who decide how and where to send people to be shot at and so fair game.
Dimwit
If Dannat is ’staff’ responsible for sending people to be shot at and so ‘fair game’ then I look forward to your whole-hearted condemnation of the Labour liars Blair, Campbell and the entire Labour cabinet that got us involved in Iraq.
Honorable exception to Robin Cook (posthumous). And Clare Short (belatedly).
Being ‘fair game’ and all.
You’re on very fucking thin ice, Baiter.
Be fucking warned.
The person masquerading as Master Baiter is on thin ice, guidiot the oaf can probably inform those who genuinely wish to know, the identity of the clown.
Fuck off Coco.
We know who you are. How is Alderney this morning?
Sorry withdraw that
Dammit.
Missed the obvious spoof there.
‘Gordon hates the trivialisation of politics and he said so himself in an interview with pop gossip, Piers Morgan.’
Busted.
In one!
It certainly got Master Baiter in a bit of a flap.
It wasn’t me! A big bad boy did it and ran away etc etc.
Piece of advice, best not to insult people who are getting shot at. This medium is more transparent than many realise. The military don’t take kindly to it and have good relations with the intelligence services.
Dimwit.
Is your bedroom tidy yet?
Remember to bin the crispy sock.
You used to fall for most of mine too, genius.
ah MB I have your secret!
“Telephoning to ask about Susan Boyle shows that he cares and he has the common touch.”
no-one could possibly write this with a straight face except Gorgon himself. You’re just messing us about, playing at being a Liebore troll for the laugh, unless you are actually McDoom who is the only person in EU “Transmanche” Eco-Region 17 who would believe that statement. Your comment about McGormless and Piers Morgan pretty much gave the game away, I hadn’t spotted your particular slant before then.
Rumour is Brown is preparing to meet the five fallen when they return, after seeing Obama propaganda of saluting the brave Amerikenyans retruning in coffins Brown wants to adopt the same photo op’s iin the run up to the election.
If true, you heard it here first.
What a Hoon that man is
Don’t the relatives have a say? If it were my son/brother.husband I wouldn’t want that traitor using their dead bodies as a photo op.
We could surround the base — there’d be six coffins…
“Rumour is Brown is preparing to meet the five fallen when they return, after seeing Obama propaganda of saluting the brave Amerikenyans retruning in coffins Brown wants to adopt the same photo op’s iin the run up to the election.”
Presumably it’s the “right thing to do” – if you’re a wanker like Broon that is.
What a waste of oxygen that “man” is.
I hope one of the bereaved mentions the blood on Brown and this treacherous “government’s” hands.
May those brave soldiers and Military Police all rest in peace and with condolences to all the families…
TROOPS HOME NOW – we have traitors within for our troops to deal with.
can they choose what side to wear their poppies on?
Bercow tells Brown to Shut up!
More of this please.
Theresa May wearing a black sleeping bag.
Hopefully the Labour Party will be in body bas before too long.
Europe.. ? No
Expenses.. ? No
Another bank bailout.. ? No
C’mon Dave, get into him. It’s the right thing to do !
Hooray – finally the first mention of the “expenses” word since the troughers returned from their 90 week holiday !
How the hell can Cameron think I would vote for him when he f’s off 6 questions on completely unimportant stuff (in the scheme of things).
Who gives a toss? brown never answers questions anyway. PMQs justs gets an arbitrary 2.5 minutes on the news, thats all that matters politically.
Czech out Cameo, what a cast iron lamp post!
Up Yours ! moronic master of wank.Cheers.
Calm down!
It’s worth looking in to and Czeching the facts, no?
What’s it like having Cameo lock all the Tory Euro Bilge group nutters in a dirty kennel. It must really stink in there and they’ll never ever be let out.
Hannan looked in tears, ut won’t do anything to risk his safe easy well paid job, will he?
What are you going to do when the bunker staff are all made redundant next May?
MB will be signin on next year init,the clocks tickin MB, to when your masters get their orders to fuckoff :0)
Lisbon here you. It was Labour who broke the promise.
Cast iron lamp post, dog relieving itself, Cameo.
Loony Tory Eurobsessives locked in a dog kennel by Cameo, left to sniff each other all day long.
Hahahaha
Well it ain’t working. David Davis has already made a statement, so has Hannan. Cameron has 12 hours to promise a referendum on EUmembership or he’s going to get a knife in his back long before he faces an election.
Don’t you mean iron-cast, like your moronic fuck-witted wanker of a leader said repeatedly. I mean, what’s so fucking hard about cast iron? He must have rehearsed it multiple times beforehand and still said the words in reverse. Useless, thick, one-eyed, jocko Hoon.
Couldn’t get his lying mouth around the word Nimrod… “Mmmimrod”, He’ll be confusing Obama and Omaha next.
Cameo’s plywood guarantee
pliable
Whereas the Labour Party honoured their manifesto pledge on a referendum which was held on, um, er…
Our Party is united on Europe – you plebs will do what you are bloody well told, because it is the right thing to do.
You have to laugh at NuLabour just a bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites. I tell you there are some very angry people out there right now and I for one would gladly stick my fist down GB’s throat. The man is lower than the low a complete f*cking disgrace.
I couldn’t agree more. I totally despise the Labour Party now, they have, in cahoots with the Liberal Democrats, destroyed the link between the governors and the governed, a link that took centuries to forge has been destroyed for what?
I truly hope that a mob drags every last Labour scumbag who reneged on the referendum promise into the street and blinds them and pushes them into the river, scum.
The nation’s waiting for Cameron’s statement at 4 pm just like they were waiting for Churchill in ‘39…
Brown reneged on a manifesto “promise” to give us a referendum.
Explain please.
Brown: Hold on it was not a cast iron guarantee though. Or is it iron clad or iron cast he said I think four different versions of the same saying in one PMQ’s. This is our great leader. WTF is going on in this country with a man like this at the helm we are doomed.
I think it was in the same category as “there will be no legislation to introduce universit top-up fees in the life of this parliament”
Just like Labour’s…..
Master Baiter’s argument. Threadbare
like my Syrup.
£10.99 from Tesco online – Bastards!
Read the text masterbaiter, Cameron said the there should be a referendum before ratification.
Why are you so keen to join Brown in the lying stakes?
Copied below is what Cameo wrote:
“Today, I will give this cast-iron guarantee: If I become PM a Conservative government will hold a referendum on any EU treaty that emerges from these negotiations.
No treaty should be ratified without consulting the British people in a referendum.”
For the Tory Europhiles (who are they) there is no problem they are not locked in the kennels with all the other Loony Tory Eurobsessives sniffing each other all day long, Cameo had to do it.
Still, it’s more than a bit dodgy.
Hahahaha
“Today, I will give this cast-iron guarantee: If I become PM a Conservative government will hold a referendum on any EU treaty that emerges from these negotiations.
No treaty should be ratified without consulting the British people in a referendum.”
So, is he the PM then?
Cameo has withdrawn the “cast iron guarantee” before the transaction so probably the purchase won’t go ahead.
Who would buy it?
Cameo too much of a lightweight for ‘cast iron guarantees’, innit?
It doesn’t matter.
If his statement quoted above is complete, accurate and was not qualified by further remarks, he either holds the referundum on becoming PM or breaks his word.
The two sentences are entirely separate declarations. The first is one of determined intent; the second is merely a peripheral observation.
In those circumstances, if he reneges on that promise or now withdraws it, the only logical reason he can give is that neither he nor his script-writer understood the English language sufficiently to define his actual intentions.
It’s the last sentence that matters you thick Hoon. “No treaty should be ratified”. Too late now you cum-stained fuckwit.
It all counts, for nothing.
Cast iron lamp post, dog relieving itself on Cameo’s word.
MB – it is clear to everyone here that you have a very unhealthy obsession with the lavatorial habits of dogs. Why do you persist in not only demonstrating yourself to be an imbecile, but also a person of rather disgusting interests?
and maybe if he keeps practising he will one day be as proficient a liar as gordon brown.
oh and one more thing master baiter. if you post one more comment knocking the army then I am going to knock your fucking lights out you piece of shit.
you are scum.
you are on the list.
It’s my fault. Too many times seeing me done doggy style by soldiers – that’s why he hates them too) and then cocking my leg over the toilet to let the cum dribble out of my ass
tat must be losing steam again, get the rings seen to, go into a siding and get shunted and lastly hiss off.
Choo! choo!
if you post one more comment knocking the army then I am going to knock your fucking lights out you piece of shit.
Precisely wanker – “No treaty should be ratified”.
The treaty has now been ratified so it cannot be put to a refendum.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
A wank I think.
Well come on master bates, expalin why brown reneging on a “promise” is any more different to camerhoon doing precisely the same thing?
The clue as you seem incable of forming a cherent response is: Theyre both the fucking same. Doh!
Brown actually signed the fucking treaty along with bananaboy, not camerhoon so i dont blame camerhoon for that just for acting like your superhero brownstain.
Now that my dogs just relieved itself all over your cast iron pms “promise”, can you address the first point i made? Or are you as big a cocknocker (or bigger) that i suspect you to be?
I wont hold my breath tho….
uking eyboard!
“I-Ron cast guarantees.”
Is there anything he doesn’t fuck up?
Yeah, I noticed that too.
NO NO NO Nothing he can’t even speak is a f*cking Tosser don’t you know. My wife has started to hide thing for fear they might get thrown at the TV while GB is on. Sad but true.
Can’t speak, can’t smile. Well, at least he’s honest…
Oh wait.
Cameo credibility called into question, crumbs could be ’cause of cast iron guarantee cracking up.
Whereas browns credibility is “rock” solid?
Do try to stop being a nob, people are looking at you.
Your right Brown is cracking up.
I’m still having orgasms over stuff nobody gives a shit about..
Hahahaha….they’re coming to take me away….Haha.
Brown might have been able to score some points if only he could pronounce the word “iron” properly. Oh well.
and say ‘cast iron’ instead of iron cast’. Total waste of a skin.
Brazen Brown! I am incandescent that lying toad Prime Mentalist was able to get away with saying on two occasions that he keeps his promises and guarantees. Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!!!
Where was the referendum promised by Labour in its last General Election Manifesto on the EUConstitution aka the Lisbon Treaty?
God – I want to poke McTwit’s remaining good eye out and then slow roast him on a spit!!!
Brown Out! Labour Out! Lying f’wits the lot of them!!!!
I hate him
I’d gladly do life to get rid of this complete prick.
It started on day one.
How did that referendum on PR go? The one promised in Labour’s 1997 manifesto?
You seem as outraged as me and that is saying something.
Don’t worry, he’ll be history after the election.They haven’t the number of activists left to mount a successful Glenrothoes style fraud at a national level.
Yeah, that really isn’t the way to go with it is it? What a moron Brown is – we all know he lied through his teeth about giving a referendum on Lisbon. Cameron still has a “get out of jail free” card. He can promise a referendum on the EU now and even if he is a closet euphile he can campaign later for continued entry. Labour are quite probably in the process of making themselves look like complete twats if Cameron does indeed offer a referendum on EU membership. Gordon has also telegraphed that if he doesn’t that will be all we will hear about from now until the next election so does Cam really have a choice? Seems like he is being backed into standing on the same platform as UKIP, which to be honest won’t do the Tories any real harm at all as they will probably pick up their votes.
Agreed.
Is that a giraffe sat on his right?
She’s got enough neck.
Do not Giraffes rest standing up, flicking their ears and keeping one eye open alternately to keep alert. They have got to be ready to run away from harm sums up Harmon. They also find it difficult to mate so that will please her.
FFS
I would cheer like a loon if the whole House was blown to smithereens right now.
They are all bastards.
Ditto
Ditto Ditto
Thrice Ditto
Amen.
Praise the Lord
If it happens tomorrow then you can mop up any survivors en passant.
I don’t want to give politicians a vote, I want to give them a ride in a tumbril
They’re all buggering off at the sight of that jacket.
It’s not been off her back since she got it. One hopes the undergarments are rotated with greater frequency.
One doesn’t care. One would prefer not to think about her undergarments at all, clean or dirty.
Theresa MAY looks like she has just escaped from the set of a remake of Lord of the Rings.
She looks like one of the Ringraiths. Fucking scarey what.
Nice legs for a Dominican.
Cast Enron guarantees from Brown.
Cameron ought to focus on turfing Brown out now, not waiting for Brown to chose when to go. Why on earth do we need this shower of shit to stay on in office until May 2010?
Berclow still needs to force Brown to answer the questions. If Call Me Dave is so concerned about Afghanistan why doesn’t he call for a full debate rather than to misuse PMQs?
I guess that Cameron could have done more to call Ministers to account on Expenses.
Konnie the Hack on Yoof Parliaments, what a fucking joke.
The reason was buried back in the preamble – only 37% voted for ZaNu last time.
Get a new ZaNu yoof wing into the equation with “E-voting” FFS, and it’s an instant Kharzi-esque shoe-in for the Gorgon and his motley crew next time….
Next week, Konnie will fix the voting system with sticky back plastic.
The elephant in the room will crap all over it
Funny how Daily Politics inadvertedly forgot to mention that Konnie’s sister is involved with Labour.
Silly bitch has no idea how to keep the electoral system secure. Perhaps she would like to go back to school and teach a class of chavs about responsibilities and voting.
I wouldn’t mind fixing Konnie on her back in plastic to be honest.
Nah her beaver is so hairy you`ll end up looking like a sasquatch.
It’s a risk I’m prepared to take.
A hair between the teeth is a small price to pay
I’d give her a sticky back
Back off. That’s my ouevre.
Another thing which really annoys me, is this Labour obsession with lowering the voting age to 16. It is the most ridiculous idea I have heard of – you cannot buy drinks until 18, you cannot drive a car until 17, but Labour want to give callow, spotty youths with very little life experience the vote. Simple gerrymandering – they obviously think spotty youths would vote Labour en masse.
It’s already happening :
Step 1 : DfES aims to raise school leaving age to 18 by 2013
Step 2 : EMA £30 a week for all those in education over the age of 16
Step 3 : Lower voting age to 16 and rake in the bought votes.
Could it be, because they are probably still gullible enough to swallow the socialist dreamworld shit, surely not !
Isn’t Ronnie Campbell MP everything that Labour is and represents?
Isn’t it fun all our troops being killed to spare Gordon’s blushes.
And isn’t it fantastic how he sold the country out to the EU.
I am now going to go on and on about David Cameron being a liar to try to divert attention away form the fact that Gordon Brown is a liar and CIA stooge.
Another five soldiers lost in one day due to Gordon Brown’s failed foreign policy?
So what? Who cares?
Not me, I am a New Labour supporter and we have never liked the army. I am glad to see them get killed and being cut down to size. They were getting far too big for their boots anyway.
The truth is that I am glad those soldiers died. We are going to have a European army soon so that will teach them, won’t it?
Soldiers die, big deal.
I don’t give a fuck.
This is why I suspect Master Baiter to be a Tory plant.
Although this is an obvious spoof it essentially the same glib, dismissive, fuckwitted manner of MB and as such is designed to make people resolve and redouble their efforts to make Labour history.
Labour trolls, no matter how stupid, couldn’t think that such nasty misinformation and lies would persuade anybody to love the parteh and so the only rational conclusion is that MB is a Tory troll.
The dodo above is masquerading as Master Baiter.
Only the most dimwitted of the admittedly largely dimwitted right wing dinosaurs that infest this site would be fooled.
Ah well!
What part of ‘obvious spoof’ did you not understand?
Stalker.
Still smarting over the bank bail out and the four year time frame break up.
Try reading something other than the tripe on here, it might lead to some enlightenment.
Dimwit.
You seem to have me confused with somebody else Archie.
‘Smarting over the bank bailout’? Huh?
Stalker.
>> it might lead to some enlightenment.
Charles? Charles? Is that you?
Right-wing dimwits? Have you read the Guardian lately?
No I’m the real Baiter! Ha ha ha , ‘Ere stop messin’ abahht! Gordon is a jolly good fellow, mummy where are my new brogues!
You forgot the:
Hahahahaha
What part of Master Baiter did you not understand?
Leave me out of it.
And me
Just passing through
Can I interest anyone in my new religion?
Bit flat today
funny you should say that
I have a pressing engagement
I can’t rock I’m afraid. The people below don’t like the squealing.
Run to the Hills!
I am not a walk over
Some mention an Iron?
You left your pants round here sweetie x
Anyone for a beer? Who’s round is it?
I have an ASBO.
That Andrew Neil’s a right prat, and definitely far too ugly for television.
See how angry he gets when someone points out he’s wrong about something.
Neil was pratting on about IPSA just being another committee but Robinson corrected him.
“What’s the epistemological difference between a committee and an authority”?, the prat asks Robinson.
One’s internal and the other’s external, dipstick!!
“Oh, I was only teasing”, says the dipstick.
What’s the epistemological difference between real hair and a Brillo pad, eh dipstick?
He was losing it with John McFall yesterday too.
We’d have more fun on Daily Politics if people set out to wind the prat up. He’s a real sucker for it, and gets visibly angry and red gaced.
More of this, please.
Why has Andrew Neil gone all pro-Labour in recent weeks?
I like it when peolle get angry. Shows they care. People don’t get angry enough these days.
Yeah, but he only gets angry after someone shows him up as wrong about something.
Angry and right is OK, but angry and wrong is just arrogant dipstick.
You want angry and wrong?
I give you our Prime Minister.
“Our”???
He’s now just the Prime Minister of Euro Region 7.
Better Brillo than a fucking Dimbleby
“the report will be referred for implementation to an independent committee”
fuck me, so the kelly report was just a report on the feasibility of a report, which in turn will be subjected to another committee/report? how many fucking levels of this beaurocratic bullshit do they need?
for fuck’s sake, why can’t they bin all this “report” and “committee” wank and just say “we’ll follow hmrc law/guidelines like everyone else does” ?
fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking useless fucking wankstain pissing fuckwit bastards.
Easy now……….
It is a joke. You do not need a committee let the people decide call a GE now that will sort much of this out with a tick in the box.
I think you’ve seen through them. While making lots of noise in public about how wonderful the Kelly report is and how it must be implemented in full, in private they will make sure that it spends so many years going through all the various committees that the current lot of MPs are all long since retired before anything actually changes.
Loving your work…!!
OT
Brown’s ‘justification’ for selling gold at an all time low was that even at such a low price gold represented too a high a percentage of our total foreign currency reserves.
Surely, with gold at an all time high the remainder represents an even bigger percentage and should be sold immediately.
Expect an announcement and the price of gold to plummet.
I can assure you PLEBS, there will be NO cast Iron guarrantees!
Pip Pip Suckers
Get back to work, the lot of you. It’s lunchtime and the customers want their burgers.
Mr Brown embarrased himself again, when he can’t even get the two words cast and iron the right way round, even though he’s been rehearsing them non-stop all morning. I suspect it’s because he doesn’t even know what they mean.
I see that he couldn’t get it right when talking about the Nimrod inquiry either – almost as if he didn’t understand what a Nimrod is. How come he has such difficulty with saying simnple words that are relevant to his day to day job? It didn’t come out today, but he regularly says Bullions when he means Billions, and often says Bullions when he actually means Billion. I think he is Prescott without the charm.
Oh yes, and his tie was the usual mess.
I must say ’saved the banking system.’
I must not say ’saved the world’.
I must not say ’saved the world’.
I must not say ’saved the world’.
I must not say ’saved the world’.
Bugger.
Gordon Brown helped save the world banking system. He moved first and led the rest of the world in propping up the banks, so avoiding a global financial catastrophe far worse than the one now being experienced.
Cameo used the expression cast iron guarantee, it should have been ‘iron clad guarantee’.
The more usual expression in that context is ‘iron clad guarantee’. Imparting the meaning of safe and secure, as an iron clad battleship is safe. It is used frequently in guarantees for products.
What does cast iron guarantee mean?
In the case of Cameo and the Lisbon Treat, obviously, nothing.
Certainly it cracked easily.
You are bonkers! No-one says iron-clad (or “clad-iron” in Brown-speak) these days. Cast iron just means heavy, strong, firm, solid, etc. It’s really not that difficult.
Cast Iron/Clad Iron/ Iron Clad = MB for P45 soon
Broon promised a referendum whilst in power and lied his guts out. Cameron can’t have a referendum because he isn’t PM, but the marxist press are attacking the Tories and not Broon???
How’s that for feckin fair press.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…
You really are full of it aren’t you?
Tell me, do you ever tire of sucking Gordon’s c*ck?
No, I love it!
Can’t get enough!!
Nom, nom, nom…
Saved the world banking system did he? What Santander? Lehmans? ING? BNP Paribas?
Oh no, it was Northern Rock. Although I’m not sure I would call them “saved”….
I thought Ireland saved their banking system first. So Ireland saved the world. Or, more honestly, it’s just that Ireland’s property-fuelled, binge-borrowing economy were about two or three weeks more fucked than Britains property-fuelled, binge-borrowing economy.
Of course the Labour chumps had no idea what was happening on their watch since 2002. They simply listened to their paid ‘economists’ and ignored the IMF and any rational warnings.
Then tried to blame it all on the banks and the yanks.
If even part of what you say was true then we, in the UK, having ‘lead the world’ into recession would be out of recession by now. Having moved first blahblah….
But we aint. We are uniquely fucked and we didn’t lead any fucker anywhere. We reacted to our own specific problems as they arose just like every other country only – thanks to the uniquely fuck-witted handling of our economy by the imbecile Brown we have less room for manouver than any other developed country and will have the highest deficit of any developed this year and the highest in our history and we are still in recession.
These things are known and widely accepted:
It’s a global crisis, it started in America.
Once the crisis erupted Brown took the right action, the Conservitudes opposed every step and since have reversed direction, accepting that the steps were correct.
US banks and car companies are state controlled because of the crisis.
This is not widely accepted and yet true:
The UK has a deficit in real infrastructure, in the crisis it would be best to deal with and fix that infrastructure deficit now instead of throwing generations of people on to the scrap heap as the Conservitudes would do, and which ‘do nothing’ stance would cost more.
Stop it MB – you are lying again. Just go back to your usual posts about the lavatory habits of dogs – that is more to your standard of intellectual “achievement”.
Imbecile.
Kanga
Roo
Oh the irony of letting a complete imbecile anywhere the technlogical complexity that is a computer.
MB would you be so kind as to change my order for tomorrow lunchtime? I won’t be needing the portion of fries, nor the ice in my fanta.
K? Thanx!
I think Gordon Brown needs to save himself first, he is as mad as a hatter!
What is it with thge mentakl patient that he cannot say iron but needs to say Hi -Ron
I hope when the Hoon dies they disect his little brain to find out what wires were crossed so this problem can be resolved in future imbeciles.
The man and I use that word lightly is a Hoon.
Surely… Preens in front of reinforced mirror for daily ritual…
“I must, I must, improve my Bust!”
“MMimrodm Nimrod”, “MMimrod…”
He might find Comet easier to say!!
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht! I’m the real Baiter!
Too confusing, hisself and Bob Jobsworth would think it was a retail outlet for kitchen appliances.
Don’t get me started about how upset I felt the first time I walked into Currys. Not a single naan bread. Lying bastards!
i hate parliment
That sounds entirely sane to me. I pronounce you cured.
Me too!
Mr Putin save us all and invade Europe
Actually, Mr. Putin, save yourself the bother and just invade the UK. No-one in Europe will lift a finger to help and now that Broon has pissed off the Americans, you don’t need worry about them.
Failing that, does anyone know any friendly aliens who would like to abduct the Cabinet? A lifetime of painful vivisection sounds about right for them all.
“Look, Zod, I have just grafted a war criminal onto a mad Scotsman.”
Putin doesn’t have to invade the UK. He has the EUSSR. Merkel, who likes to drone on and on about how awful it was living under the Stasi, is always sucking up to ex-KGB man Putin.
They really are all cut from the same cloth and sadly the German’s are too easily led to see it all.
Germans? Easily led? Surely not
Yeah but they started it!
Good luck to Magna and their takeover of Opel and Vauxhall
Korean cars for British workers thanks to our scrappage scheme.
I’m currently driving a Hyundai. I tell you Korean cars are a fuck sight more reliable than any Ford / Vauxhall I’ve ever owned.
Please do not type while you drive – submit yourself to the nearest driver correctional centre for re-education, pronto…
Bit of cheer from labour with blunkets question , mr speaker telling the PM off for using the time as propoganda .
CW is sorry for todays dead also
Not very clever Blunkett’s question, just draws attention really to the fact that a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty promised by Brown and Labour wasn’t given to the British people. “There are some wounds that never heal”, Labour failing to give that referendum will be one of those wounds for Labour at the next General Election.
Did anyone mention Neathergate?
Ooooh, noooooo.
Nethergate was not mentioned. I wonder why.
Nethergate? Sounds scrummy
I did once but I think I got away with it.
Sir Christopher said the recommendations “recognise the unique circumstances of an MP’s life”
eh? are MPs the only people in the country who have 2 offices then?
They are one of the few classes left that ‘have a life’ anymore, If you get my drift.
No, but theyr’e the only ones who get to make the law so that they can give themselves specific exemptions from paying taxes on expenses that would be taxable for anyone else.
The “son of the manse” has lied again, blaming Cameron for pulling out of holding a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. I know Brown is a dimwit but does he not remember it was him and his Labour government who promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty to the British people, Cameron promised one if Brown failed to hold one, but now the treaty has been ratified and has come into law, game over for referendum on it. Brown is ingenious, shameful the the un-elected PM to take Britain into the EU without the British people having their say, how does this man sleep at night! perhaps he doesn’t and that is why he looks a wreck. Let’s hope Brown’s “Blair EU Trojan Horse”, doesn’t get across the channel! Et tu Brown.
It’s all politics to scum like Brown. Reality is just a gossamer thread to him. If he can twist the facts to ‘win’ a point then that’s okay by him. It’s all about showing how he can proclaim black is white, freedom is slavery, recklessness is prudence, bust is boom and putting it to his chosen enemies.
The other shit? The boring shit? Running the country? Doing a good job? Avoiding complete economic meltdown, record national debt, record budget deficits, the longest recession in UK history? That shit? That’s just detail.
What’s important is that he sells out the UK but gets to make a jibe as if it’s all Cameron’s fault.
Golly. How clever.
Utter, utter, unprincipled, soulless, incompetent scum.
I wish I believed in God because then I would sleep happier in the knowledge that scum like Brown would burn in hell. As it is I have to live with the revolting thought that he’ll die of old age in a comfy bed. Paid for by me probably.
Well said, and I agree with your summary on “The Life of Brown”, of course he still wants to be on the fourth plinth.
You can just picture the leering chump heading back to his office to brag to the Labour chumps.
‘Did you see what I did there? Did you? Did you see what I did? I reneged on giving the UK a referendum using the most blatant sophistry imaginable and then I stuck it to Dave about him not having a vote.’
‘Did you see that?’
‘I’m fucking great me. I think I’ll celebrate by printing another 25bn quid and pissing away another half billion quid today.’
‘Best fucking PM ever, me.’
If the Lisbon Treaty is not a constitution which is why it could be slipped past the French and Dutch who had voted down the constitution.
Cast iron lamp post, a dog relieving itself.
Loony Tory Eurobsessives locked in a kennel together. Left to sniff each other for the rest of their political careers.
Hahahaha
It was ‘Constitution’ enough for the Irish to have another go at getting the ‘right’ answer.
Riddle me that stalker.
Shouldn’t bother with trying to get debate from him, he just reads off the daily NuLiebour on-message document he receives each day to repeat on blogs.
Cameo has closed the kennel door, time to keep quiet or no walks in the park.
Do the rest of the loony tory eurobsessives sniff around all day too?
The authors are on record as having said that the same document would have to be rebranded so the various referenda could be sidestepped. Utter contempt for democracy, which is why we have to leave.
I prefer my own, shorter summary of Brown: he’s an incompetent, deluded bag of shit.
‘Nuff said.
I’m getting really confused. If the Lisbon Treaty / EU Constitution is such a really good idea, WHY is Brown trying to blame Cameron for our ratification of the Treaty? Should he not be claiming success for a job well done?
Anyone got any answers?
Lizzie
The “son of the manse” has lied again, blaming Cameron for pulling out of holding a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. I know Brown is a dimwit but does he not remember it was him and his Labour government who promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty to the British people.
I agree with you Lizzie BUT Cameron is to little to late we need to take a much harder stance, not just on Lisbon but on all the mess that Brown has Engineered in.
Cameron should have said referendum not matter what and reversed the situation of taken us out. No fight in the man, he is not a leader. The sad thing is they have got the man for the job, may not be to late….
Just seen Mandelbum on telly.
By the strange, wax-like look of his face I reckon he’s had botox injections. The vain git.
Makes a change from receiving his usual regime of ‘buttocks’ injections I suppose.
Bet he dyes his pubes as well.
He does, my teeth are stained from sucking up to him.
Sarah gets so angry when I get home, she won’t kiss me ever!
Did Brown read out the death toll again? or was he more interested in rapidly moving on this time to a subject of political advantage, or maybe he just didn’t show.
He had the more-difficult-than-usual job of having no names to read out of the five brave soldiers. DC followed up with four questions on military strategy and one challenging Broon to accept Kelly’s report as his party was doing. Clegg did the same.
PMQs was really sombre, not sure if it were Afghanistan or Kelly’s report that did it though.
I expect that the French and Germans have now told him exactly what signing up to Lisbon meant. Goodbye Gordo, even if you win the next election it won’t be worth f-all will it.
Another PMQ, another failure by Cameron.
How many open goals is he going to miss?
Any old iron, any old iron, any, any, any cast iron?
He looks neat. Ain’t he sweet?
He’s got bigger flippers than a kipper in heat
Eton style, worth a pile
He’s the old blues’ pale pink lion
You wouldn’t give ‘em tuppence for their half a brain. Old iron. Scrap iron.
Don’t worry, all this expenses stuff is now in the safe hands of Prof Kennedy, who is in charge of a thoroughly independent committee, and will make totally fair and unbiased judgements on it.
Just as fair and unbiased as anyone would be if you were hand-picked by Parliament for the job and given a £100K salary to do it.
Must have lost the plot again, Kennedy? thought Legg had sorted that one (a likely story), more chance of a necrophiliac shagging Marilyn Monroe…. after the cremation.
These ‘independent’ experts will be a bit like ‘renumeration committees’ in the City. They always over compensate because what goes around comes around. Useless.
I have decided to leave the scumbag socialist party as I can’t stand the stench in their meeting rooms.
I have decided to become a Conservative, a proper upstanding citizen.
Why should I spout socialist crap when my concience tells me to be a decent human being and support David Cameron.
I feel much better now.
I’m disgusted
If you’re going to spoof MB at least spell the name right.
And then you can pretend to be the ‘real’ MB and get upset about it too.
You can stay out of our party you lemon. Go join the Liberals you hoon!
MB the tosser is changing his name so often she spelt it wrong, serves her right, stop messin abhaat!!
Oooopss
That’s disgusting!
I do the work of 20 men here. But I am only a lady socialist he he he!
A lady? Hahahahahaha!
All fur coat and no knickers!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Another five soldiers have been killed by an Afghanistan police man.
Get it? We are training Afghan policemen how to kill our soldiers.
It is a very funny joke, isn’t it. It is one of Gordon Brown’s jokes, so as well as being a great and courageous leader of Britain he is also a funny guy with a great sense of humour.
And if that’s not a good enough joke what about the one about the European countries who won’t send troops over to help us but will force us to follow their laws and also, heard the one about the European parliament which occupied Great Britain and lorded it over the British people who let them do so without a bullet being fired in defence of the country. The punchline is; we just rolled over like Vichy France. Oh how Peter Mandelson and Gordon Brown and Tony Blair laughed over that one, they laughed like drains.
Why aren’t you lot laughing? Come on, these are funny gags, don’t be so uptight about it guys, it is only the soldiers who are not laughing.
Let us remember, the soldiers are dying for a greater cause. They are dying to prevent Gordon Brown being embarrassed and having to admit that wehe made a mistake not sending enough helicopters to Afghanistan.
The tears are rolling down my cheeks.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Another dead soldier?
So what.
Look on the funny side!
You disgust me!
Don’t insult people who get shot at, they don’t like it.
You are filth.
agreed susie.
master baiter you are scum and you deserve a bullet in the head for what you have said on this thread about our boys.
Kerching!
tat is a guidiot the oaf clone used to flatter the sites’ stats.
where’s all the love?
don’t worry the secret is safe, isn’t it guidiot?
Anyone have a view who would win – tat and MB in a pussy fight to the death?
Won’t be tat. For all his claims to be “top boy”, I know what he used to do behind the bike sheds with the other lads.
He’s a bottom. Always has been always be. “Brown Major” always kept him in his place.
I always win.
that is why I am top boy.
innit.
I bet you would never say that in person. School lunch must be finished by now, have you not got a class to attend
MasturbNation.
It is a very poor impersonation of MB.
And quite shoddy too – using those brave mens deaths to attack a political opponent is really low.
By all means have a go at MB, but attack him for his stance & opinions.
Don’t degrade yourself & your argument – & certainly do not denigrate the memories of those serving soldiers who have paid the ultimate price for New Labours duplicity, vanity & “ethical foreign policy”.
For shame.
Regards
RRW (Mrs)
Don’t know which MB you are addressing but the Fore shame should be directed at our glorious leaders. Irony? ever heard of that.
Yes, I have thank you.
There is nothing ironic about using our glorious war dead to make any kind of point.
You may go.
VOTE LABOUR GET WAR YOU KNOW THE FUCKING SCORE
WE NEED TO KILL EVERY SINGLE AFGHAN
WHY DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MRS RIGHTY RIGHT?
WHY DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SOLDIERS MUST DIE
GORDON BROWN’S POSITION MUST BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS
AND IF SOLDIERS HAVE TO DIE FOR THAT TO BE ACHIEVED
SO WHAT?
STOP BEING A PACIFIST CRYBABY AND START BEING A NEW LABOUR WARRIOR!
VOTE FOR MORE SOLDIERS TO DIE FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO SAVE GORDON
VOTE LABOUR VOTE DEATH VOTE GORDON
Getting too convoluted in these threads, everybody is speaking in riddles, is this a back lash against our politically correct society?, the Hungarians used to do it with Cartoon posters to flummox the Stasi, not easy trying to juggle soot.
As I explained elsewhere, my lad MB’s dislike of soldiers come from him watching me being regularly gang-banged by squaddies. Sometimes whole battalions. His dog urinating fetish has similar origins.
Credit where it is due I thought the little man in the chair tried hgard today, he sorted Browns planted attacks well.
Bravo Mr speaker you are still a nasty little Hoon, but you may well be our little piece of gash rather than the smelly Labour trout gash
We are waiting Dave.
Will it be a guarantee of Kryptonite today?
I gather Kryptonite does not rust or go soft after a few months exposure.
Just to expand a little it depends what kind of Kryptonite he guarantees as different colours and types produce different results for example;
White Kryptonite; kills all plant life
Orange Kryptonite; gives superpowers
etc. etc.
All entirely fictional of course. Which would be appropriate.
Krypton is a real chemical element but an entirely unreactive gas, and cannot make any chemical compounds. Even if someone has managed to in the past few years it wouldn’t be stable, so wouldnt be a rock, so unlikely to have the “ite” suffix.
Gordon wanst a I-ron cast guarantee. Vote Tory and get a referendum on srepatriation of laws back from Europe and a once and for all in-out.
Come on Dave you can do it, I know it is the Nuke option, but it will scare the shit out of Gordon Brown and the fuckers in Brussels
If Cameron is the ansewer than its a bloody silly question probably asked by Brown
Gordon, never mind fannying about in Parliament. You only have 34 days left to save the world!
The rest of you MPs – get back to your one-bedroomed flats in Harlesden!
I’ve got to go now – Dave, the plumber, is coming to fix the antique-effect cast-iron bath tub. It cracked and it turns out that the firm that gave me the guarantee has gone morally bankrupt.
Splodgenessabounds!
Cameo to party
Here Fido, come here little puppy!
Arf, arf, arf!
Bang, now stay there, slobbering loony and don’t make any noise.
With good behaviour there will be occasional walks in the park.
Hahaha
I’m such a twat ha ha ha
Dad, Mum said stop wanking and go down the offy and get her some Lambrusco for her tea.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
We agree with QE now, print money!
We agree with the Lisbon Treaty now too.
Lock the loony tory euro hounds up in the kennel and stop them barking.
Tally ho!
Ouch!
Soldiers die.
So what?
Shit happens, get over it and stop complaining.
For goodness sake, who gives a damn if a few soldiers are slotted by the Afghans?
Look at the bigger picture, Gordon is more important than the cannon fodder.
Gordon Brown’s position must be protected at all costs. It’s a no brainer!
Get over yourselves.
Ooow! ‘e’s a brave one!
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Print money, we love QE (quantitiative easing) now.
Lisbon’s got a lovely Treaty, no problem.
Oh and lock the brugges dogs up they really smell!
Tally ho! Ouch!
We really are all in it together, see?
I am the real Baiter and I’m getting very cross at you all for impersonating me.
Haa haaa, ‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!, a wank I think etc
I like to dress up in women’s clothes whilst I’m online.
Oh gasp, the feel of silk so close to the skin makes my heart pound.
I’ve even discarded my computer chair in favour of a poof decorated in a floral pattern, it’s so pretty.
Darlings, one of these days I’m coming online as Mistress Baiter.
I’m a real hoon aren’t I friends?? ha ha ha
Quiet, you fool, you’ll give the game away!
Disgusting if you ask me!
Anyone else notice the glaring anomaly today. The two major themes were 1)Afgahanistan and 2) Europe. The second is useless on the first, where America and UK do all the heavy lifting. The self-serving EU political scumbags want to be able to swan around the world ’stopping traffic’ but they are gutless wankers who, at every major difficulty in the past 15 years, have sat with their fingers in their ass. Without NATO we’d be fucked.
Srebrenica was carried out under Dutch UN troops. As a EU satellite country our boys will always be put at the front line in every conflict from now on, just as those from the Baltic states were sent to Afghanistan by the USSR… there were hardly any Russians at the sharp end.
Don’t join up lads… you are not fighting for Queen and country anymore.
Never forget the lies these c’nuts told to get us involved and the way the grasping scumbags have no morals about making money out of it. A reminder from the start of this year…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1111702/John-shot-fired-Reids-50-000-Iraq-security-job.html
Dr (ha) John Reid is one of the biggest scumbags of all. Get’s away with it now because memories are short.
People hold politicians in low esteem when they pay themselves vast sums of money for doing f**k all when it comes to scrutinising legislation like Lisbon, DNA databases, RIPA, 90 days, the list is nearly endless.
P.S. when did Ma Dale alter her blog comment rules?
I’m sorry to tell you that Master Baiter got caught in my hay baler, apparently while trying to sabotage it with remaindered copies of David Blunkett’s memoires. He is well and truly ‘wired’. It will be a shame to lose his shafts of acerbic wit, and indeed his rafts of absurd sh*t, but, hey, death, it’s all part of life’s rich whatsit.
MB leaves a widow, Mrs Hand, and five daughters.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Master Goebbels Baiter is alive and well I tell you and knocking one off to Gordon’s tractor stats as we speak.
MB got his knob caught in Gordon Brown’s key ring, apparently he enjoyed being fobbed-off!
I’M ANOTHER MALADROIT LABOUR CHUMP
No sillier than the usual explanations.
Slightly O/T, but topical. Posted this yesterday evening, and the replies were interesting, but didn’t actually answer the question posed.
Genuine question.
Most people on this blog are Eurosceptic, some strongly so, for a variety of reasons. I am Eurosceptic because I don’t like the way the EU government works – it’s not democratically accountable, it’s corrupt, it’s remote and it’s excessively bureaucratic. It also costs us too much.
Europhiles tell us that the advantages of EU membership outweigh the disadvantages.
Please explain the advantages of EU membership. We hear “it’s good for jobs”, but nobody explains why it’s good for jobs. We hear “it’s prevented another war” but we’ve had the rather bloody break-up of Yugoslavia, and isn’t that what NATO is supposed to be partly about, alongside it’s old anti-Soviet role?
I’m genuinely curious. Europhiles – please enlighten me.
Perhaps this will help although the last part was not a cast iron guarantee
The Labour Party manifesto 2005
Making Europe work better for Britain
We are proud of Britain’s EU membership and of the strong position
Britain has achieved within Europe. British membership of the EU
brings jobs, trade and prosperity; it boosts environmental standards,
social protection and international clout. Since 1997 we have gone
from marginal players, often ignored, to leaders in the European
Union.Working hard with Labour MEPs, we are determined to
remain leaders. Outside the EU, or on its margins, we would unquestionably
be weaker and more vulnerable.
The EU now has 25 members and will continue to expand.The new
Constitutional Treaty ensures the new Europe can work effectively,
and that Britain keeps control of key national interests like foreign policy,
taxation, social security and defence.The Treaty sets out what theEU can do and what it cannot. It strengthens the voice of national parliaments
and governments in EU affairs. It is a good treaty for Britain
and for the new Europe.We will put it to the British people in a referendum
and campaign whole-heartedly for a ‘Yes’ vote to keep Britain
a leading nation in Europe.
Thanks for posting it, but it rather confirms what I was getting at. It says “good for jobs and prosperity” but doesn’t explain how. The rest is arguably just words, without much meaning. We now know how much the referendum promise meant, for example.
M
they won’t bother answering your naive question engineer but the brave thick as thieves will: the cost benefit analysis is as follows; being a member of the EU costs us and benefits the workshy europeans.
there is your answer.
oh and never mind all the reasons you offered for being eurosceptic, the real on is this: the British Constitution cannot be replaced by a foreign constitution without the explicit permission of the British people.
therefore the Lisbon Treaty is illegal in Britain.
therefore any civil servant or politician who enforces EU directives is breaking the law and should be treated as the seditionist criminals they are.
do try to keep up engineer, you are falling behind you cripple!
hobble faster!
Sounds like tat’s boiler has sprung a leak again.
He’ll be glad to see a polish plumber then. Perhaps just to be sure they should have an EU recognised qualification.
said the two bitter traitors the night before their hanging.
No point in barking away like that.
Cameo has shut the kennel door. He will allow the loony tory eurobsessives out for brief walks on short choker chains in the park where they can sniff round various cast iron lamp posts, but only if they keep quiet.
Evil evil evil
Nice nice nice
By the way Black Wednesday showed how quickly a ‘democratic’ government can be turned on its head.
Serious answer:
Perhaps a justification for the European Union and the UK being a member is that the UK is too small to go it alone. Even the Icelanders are wanting to join.
I do apologise for my comments…
You see, mummy never loved me as a child :’o(
What about Tesco’s?
Master Baiter – ignoring the trolling type bollocks, thanks for the serious answer. However, why is the fifth-largest economy in the world too small to go it alone?
you sound like a spastic engineer.
oh, hold on, you fucking ARE a spastic.
you and master baiter both EU whore cripples.
and you can both fuck off to hell.
Calm down dear
Well, at least Cameo has the loony tory euruobsessives locked in their kennel sniffing each other for the foreseeable. Just a few pathetic strays left now.
Cast iron lamp posts, for the sniffing of if there is good behaviour and quiet.
despite outward appearances, top boy is always calm.
he is a calm genius. the most dangerous kind.
“We hear “it’s good for jobs”, but nobody explains why it’s good for jobs.”
I think that one goes back to the days when the EU fixed trade tarriffs. To be able to trade within the EU you needed to be part of the EU. With 50% of our trade being with the EU, our bigger British companies pushed hard for membership. However, smallerUK companies have generalyl suffered under EU membership as bigger pan-EU compaies have squeezed them out. Since smaller companies tendto employ a higher percentage of people than big companies, employment has actually suffered – but the big companies can make the biggest noise so nobody realised that.
Nowadays global agreements with the world trade organisation have brought the era of EU trade tarriffs to an end, which is one of the reasons we have seen the rise of China. US computer companies no longer are forced to make their wares in Ireland and Scotland to avoid EU trade tarriffs if they want to sell them in the EU – they can make them in China instead. So the major reason why Britain stayed in the EU is at an end. It is my belief that this is the real reason for the EUs unseemly haste at getting us all signed up to the new treaty which was originally planned back in 2000, when globalisation was new. They no longer have the leverage to keep the EU on track and they need everyone signed up before we realise.
The thicko Irish fell for the ‘good for jobs’ line.
The nitwits running europe only have to be slightly smarter than the masses to get what they want…
At least they got some rward for selling out
What did we get?
Thanks Fred – this expands the point you made this morning to the same question.
It is interesting that the rise of globalisation has overtaken the advantage of EU membership in avoiding trade tarriffs – a point I hadn’t appreciated. It seems that the economic advantages of EU membership are few, if any.
That leaves diplomatic, political and security matters – all of which I feel that the UK can deal with better on her own.
I agree Engineer, speak to the UK farmers and the UK fishermen who have had it “up to the eyeballs” with Europe, quotas and all that.
I am old enough to remember the bvote on going in to the “common market”.
Britain is a great country, the US doesn’t join with South America to make them strong and be able to trade with the rest of the world, the US have a belief that they have the goods, and people buy them. I think we need to believe in ourselves and our products. Where has the “great” gone out of Britain. I am old enough to remember the “I’m backing Britain” campaign.
said the pair of EU sell out tory whores.
Fred’s economics is totally wonky.
There are many more consumers than workers, tariffs are just a tax on consumers to increase the costs of businesses. Tariffs make a country poorer.
Wasn’t the assumption that tariffs were a tax on FOREIGN businesses, that could somehow improve a countries balance of payments, and force people to buy british?
[ I'd like to point out I don't go along with all that.]
In some places people are pro-EU because they think the EU can protect businesses etc.
Nice one Fred,Globalisation takes the need of an EUSSR away,that needs to get around the Interweb thingy.
I’m so feckin stupid I can’t answer that oik!
I am calling an Election General
No, no, n-no return to bust and boom
NO SURRENDER
No they think it and that is progress lets hope they are say it before the next election
The truth is out there folks, Master Baiter is nothing but a joke, ignore him and the little joker will go away, don’t respond to his pathetic postings, every time you repond to this clown, he gets oxygen, so ignore the lunatic.
No!
You don’t understand. It started in American, Gordon’s getting on with the job, Britain is best placed to leave recession…
I’m right, you’re all wrong, that’s why lovely new Labour has to nanny you all!
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Traitor Brown
Traitor Brown
Hang the fkin bastards ! Time for the country to fight back !
Redefine bastards as your definition seems to limit but agree with the intentions, just want to widen the scope
Some imposters have set themselves up as ‘Master Baiter’ but I can confirm that the poor little chap is being extricated piecemeal from one of my big round hay bales. (We had to re-bale some of our hay this year). Accept no substitute!
There will be a civil funeral at Asda in Houghton Regis followed by an uncivil wake at the Kinnock Krazy Klub in Luton.
You must be one of the UK farmers suffering under EU control then?
The passing of this Lisbon Treaty by Brown and the Brownies must be very upsetting for you, so hopefully we can count on you not support Brown and Labour at the next General Election, they even took away fox hunting.
One of the things we learned from the BSE debacle was that feeding minced-up sheep to cattle might not be a good idea (though, admittedly, some in agriculture were not too keen on the idea even before BSE became a problem). Surely, feeding minced Master Baiter to cattle would have even worse consequences – they might contract Socialism, for example. Not good – having a beef suckler herd going on strike could be a real headache for any farmer. Make sure you clean that baler out really thoroughly, and burn the infected bale.
LOL Nice I like
Oh dear we have a “Master Baiter” running scared, as I told you folks ignore the clown and he will disappear from your computer screens….yipee!
no lizzie, the great thick as thieves has master baiter running scared.
the only scary thing about you is your fat ugly face.
do not try to claim credit for top boy’s sterling work you cretin.
oh, and how is your leader, david cameron? still a lying c’unt.
no change there then.
please go to conservativefoam immediately lizzie: you offer no value whatsoever to this place.
what a spastic.
So you think you should censor who posts here by pissing them off?
Yes!
I am top boy and I do as I fucking like.
if you do not like it fuck off.
innit.
I thought we were only here to entertain guido.
You aren’t particularly entertaining.
top boy? I hear you is a bottom boy.
N.! t(w)at is batty boy.
Innit.
Shame on you traitors especially you Mr Cameron Heir to Bliar
Lord Snooty et al are a fucking disgrace. Spineless cowards. Cam is a middle-class, metropolitan, liberal, deceitful piece of dog shit. This is all David Davis’s fault – if that stupid twat hadn’t fucked up his leadership campaign…pillock.
I think Cameron is rather dishy.
Brown’s the spineless one you twat. Go and wipe Browns jizz off your ugly fuckwit face
As a Tory at heart I Think you are right
Dick Scratcher Just to clarify the point as a Tory at heart I agree with you
A few people have changed their names to Guy Fawkes via deed poll before bonfire night LOL
What’s blue and goes beep, beep, beep? The Tory victory tour bus reversing back into the garage.
The Tories could fuck up something every day until the election, backtrack on every promise they ever made, start wearing nazi uniforms and have a manifesto pledge to ban shagging and they would still beat Brown. The bloke is a born loser. Simples
Hung Parliament here we come…You are forgeting that the Tories need a 10% lead to just match the Liebour MP count, because of the way the electoral system is skewed against them.
Fraid not!!
The LibDims will split the Labour vote just as they did in the 80’s + early 90’s
Try the new order Tory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
Re. the EU and “Good for Jobs”
The UK contributes 13% of the EU budget, yet receives only 8% of spending.
The absolute difference is around £5.5bn per annum, or the best part of £100 for every man woman and child. Put another way, we lose half a point of our GDP to Europe. This is not “free” trade! It is rather more like a protection racket. It is impossible to see how this benefits UK workers as a whole.
An influx of economic migrants into the UK from elsewhere in the EU has increased the supply of labour and lowered average wages. This has occurred against a background of rising unemployment. UK workers are getting less work and lower pay.
The UK is recognised by the World Bank as the easiest place in the EU in which to do business. Harmonisation across an EU-wide business environment can only act to reduce the UK’s attractiveness to outside investment. Workers in the UK will become LESS employable.
EU Agriculture “enjoys” a totally artificial existence. Tax revenues are used to subsidise producers (and have historically been used as a reward for restricting supply). Tariffs stifle true international competition. UK consumers thus pay taxes to the EU for the privilege of paying artificially high prices for inefficiently produced goods. This is simply waste. This money would otherwise be creating activity in the economy. How is this good for jobs?
Don’t forget the extensive fraud, mass immigration, incompetence, bureaucracy etc.
I was just wondering regards referendums will Gordon keep his promise on a referendum on the Alternative Vote System at the next election? I think it might go the way of Labour’s one on PR and “Call Me Dave’s” one on the Lisbon treaty.
Guidao, The force be with you – you have shown the way – don’t loose yours
Looks Like I am here to stay – good or bad or don’t give a s***?
391, 392, 393, 394, 396, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 402, 403
Not a claim to fame but owning up to posts before I added a name
Where is Guido? Does he post here?