Luvvies for the Licence Fee
Stephen Fry and a load of luvvies, unions and interest groups are lobbying to stop the BBC licence fee from being redistributed to non-BBC public service broadcasters. They want to levy new taxes rather than divert funds away from the bloated BBC to other suppliers. Calling themselves the Citizens’ Coalition for Public Service Broadcasting they are mostly drawn from the public sector and unions funded by a grant from the Joseph Rowntree Trust. It is the usual bunch of media lefties, worried that their BBC gravy train might be derailed. They are so out of date in their thinking that they still think in terms of “broadcasting” rather than content provision across all distribution platforms.
The BBC does not have a monopoly on public service broadcasting, the next government would be wise to promote a more diverse public service content provider environment. The technology of new media lowers the cost of entry to new online broadcasters. Ofcom even identified some excellent prospects. Guido is almost too modest to name worthy emerging public service candidates…
Fuck Off Fry. The BBC would be better funded by the adverts from Rupert Murdoch when we sell the fucking thing for £0.01.
If the luvvies like the BBC so much, let them pay for it out of all the money they’ve raped out of everyone else’s wallets, by threat of prison, to pay for their fat wage.
Either the BBC becomes pay per view, or they should shut up shop. It is obscene that in this day and age they steal so much money from people, and give so little back in anything remotely watchable.
As an example, as a “public service” broadcaster, when have they ever shown p0rn? Never. Yet still have to pay for garbage like East Enders, Strictly unwatchable, Jonathan Ross, and on and on the list can go.
The BBC are only interested in themselves.
Break up the bbc AND news international
This should keep the windowlickers distracted, good call
Remember no voice to the Eurosceptics
The Kelly report should help you out tomorrow
KEEP ON MESSAGE AT ALL TIMES
Fuck Off TaT !
Parasites the lot of them. Fry and the all the other luvvies would be nothing without this publicly funded monster. It extorts money from working people so that it can propagate Marxist ideology that would die naturally if left to the market place. Don’t rely on Cameron to kill it off. He will need it just as much as the other fraudsters.
And yet it was those media lefties on Sky kicking 3 shades of shit out of Cameron tonight.
It will be amusing hearing the hystericals losing their minds over the Beeb as always and a nice distraction from Camerons exploding EU “Policy”. (yet not as distracting as the trying to hide his shame under cover of the Kelly Report tomorrow)
They BBC going nowhere.
At most Cameron will tweak Ofcom freeze the License for a year or two and perhaps alter the Trusts makeup and responsibility while giving channel 4 and other recipients a different slice of money.
Cameron is on record many times praising the Beeb and saying it is safe with him.
If only he had said it was a cast iron guarantee ?
Give Fry his own channel. He has enough material.
Fry and Laurie, Black adder, QI, stuff about extinct mammals, that mediocre USA holiday show, Absolubte power {now that was good} Young ones, Oscar Wilde, Jeeves and Wooster, TV version of just a minute, HIGNFY, Whos line is it anyway, Gormenghast, The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive, Who do you think you are..
Add in a few programs on manic depression and dieting, + a twitter special and you’re nearly their. If Hugh Laurie comes on board there’s enough daily material to run Fry permanently on BBC 4.
he’s a content provider with a track record of producing popular and succesfull TV which qualifies him to have an opinion on the subject and distinguishes him from most of the pond life making comments
yet some of the usual ‘rigorous’ criticism here appears to be wailing that he’s not “butch” enough for some peoples taste
best not look too closely at the opposition front bench then as it’s hardly a day out with Andy McNab and resembles a testosterone free zone as much as Fry
No he’s not — he’s a chippy old pouffe.
You could see his effete Oxbridge luvvy-darling facade crumble when he found his antecedents worked at the sugar beet factory in Bury St. Edmunds. Sort of reverse Kevin Wheatley (his solid working class cred was totally demolished by his landed gentry/banking forebears). Both equally funny.
Quango listed the programmes and they were and are popular and successful. So where it comes to the facts you’re simply full of shit.
Yes you are.
In the immortal words of Bronowski, Fuck off you hilariously uptight twat-weasel
But do lets bring up effete public schoolboys as the Conservative front benches are packed to the gills with those
those Bullingdon boys do like to dress up don’t they Mr Osborne ?
nothing funnier than those limp drippingly wet lightweights pretending to be tough then wimping out on lisbon
Mwaah! xx
Depends on what your idea of content is. He is so irritating that I can’t watch any program he’s in. He’s a stupid person’s idea of an intellectual and totally addicted to attention.
@Bill Quango – what you’re suggesting is monstrous! Yes to the the Jeeves and Wooster re-runs but the rest, pah!
If you compare what Fry does with any English language content from between say 1550 and 1800, he is not even worth a mention. He’s the 21st century anti-intellectual’s idea of an intellectual – basically a clown.
After next May I am expecting Brown’s Bullshitting Cokeheads to tell us exactly how much they have been wasting on him. Until someone stops them, they will continue wasting more taxpayers money on lawyers to prevent this happening.
Stephen Fry is worse than Hitler, Stalin and the Yorkshire Ripper combined! I like him as that toff butler though.
I find Fry depressing
I like Fry and his output .. up until he opens his lefty gob about politics … then he can go and fuck right off.
Like most lefties, he is a man of the people right up to the moment that anyone dares disagree with him, then he gets all Staliny. Same with Izzard, Brigstocke and the rest.
Hopefully Brown will give it his blessing.
the only good job nulab could do apart from resign is to break up news international.
If Boris was the Tory Leader he would hold a referendum. FACT
You mean when
Is it coincidence that cowardly cameron is going to announce his broken cast iron referendum promise on the day that MPs expenses will dominate the news?
I think not, Dave is burying his bad news underneath the Mps` bad news.
mumble,mumble, get tough on the EU! mumble,mumble, no more treaties apart from this one! mumble,mumble,mumble,mumble, express disapproval in the strongest terms! mumble,mumble, ask nicely for our soveriegnity back and hope for the best! mumble,mumble, and that ladies and gentleman is why I’m the man to trust on Europe
no questions!
[exit hurriedly stage right]
Boris is a Knight on a shining bike
he chased them down the street, calling them “oiks”.
LOL Niice one Boris. His Damsel in distress was a Lefty Luvvy too.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6901972.ece
So Boris chases off hoodies with an iron bar, if dave had been there he would have hugged them.
Boris for PM.
That may be the only way to tempt me to vote tory.
Oi! Dave, if you’re reading this like The Guardian reckons-
Tell Ken Clarke to fuck off, get Hague onside and hold a referendum, otherwise I and thousands of others will be voting UKIP as a protest.
Aptly named “White City” – the coke fuelled nonces at the bloated BBC are no longer fit for purpose.
If he hadn’t got so upset by being called a bore and decided to leave Twitter, then no doubt the fat sodomite would be tweeting every lefty luvie to keep keep the likes of that ruby lipped shit Dimbleby and the orally challenged twat Ross in their multi million pound contracts.
I’d rather have lower taxes and no licence fee. I’m sure Guido makes too much money off this site to qualify for any bursary…
I spent decades actively hating the TV license. I went 13 years without a TV, and enjoyed “reacting” to the unwarranted hassle I got for not having a license (an interesting narrative in it’s own right; but maybe another time).
Anyway, after watching SKY turn our TV content into the same 200 channels of shit I used to flip through when I lived in the USA (82-89), I suddenly saw value in the good ol’ beeb. Really!
IMO, competition and the market doesn’t work in this context. When you consider the power of the medium, you also have to consider that competition gives the consumer what they want – not necessarily what they need.
I guess I’ll be labelled some kind of “-ist” for that. Interested to hear what it might be, actually. But I’ll defend the beeb and the license fee against all comers now.
How about, “anything but Murdoch” for a start?
Debate me!
“Debate me!”
Okay, it’s spelt licence fee. You’re not in America now.
someone point out to this dickhead why he’s just made himself look a complete twat, I don’t have the heart
I can’t be arsed, but you’re right, he is a twat
The BBC won’t disappear because the licence fee has gone. the very best bits will become part of other channels or their own channels. Graham Norton won’t disappear just because BBC 1 is axed. BBC/HBO can continue on with product placement and advertising or move to a subscription model. BBC has enough content for many channels. Murdoch would take it and double his audience overnight. He could have advertised or fee paying or many more options from online only to pay per view.
Radio may take a knock but R1/R2/R4 have massive +{in radio terms } audiences. Where else will they go?
Not funding the Beeb through the taxpayer doesn’t mean the end. Just a different way.
Beatsy @ 11 :- ” you also have to consider that competition gives the consumer what they want – not necessarily what they need. ” So who decides what they need?
Indeed, the arrogance dripping with hatred for the unwashed masses is palpable.
Tis a very dangerous thing to start telling us “what we need”
As for the BBC, it does some things very well indeed, it’s sports coverage is as good as anything a non-sports specialist broadcaster can produce. Some of it’s entertainment shows are excellent and if it were trimmed down and stripped of all political bias, then I would not resent it.
As it is, it is a pathetic propaganda outlet for the establishment
every opposition without fail says the BBC is the propaganda arm of the Government in power and has as long as it has existed
and the Government of the day also attacks it when it thinks it can score a few cheap points to placate it’s followers
it’s par for the course and utterly unsurprising but the fact of the matter is the BBC will never turn into Fox News for the Tories or Socialist Worker TV for Labour no matter how much they both whine about it when they aren’t in power or even in power
and yes of course the oblivious will squeak “but it is socialist TV blah blah blah” that’s all part of the amusing decades old game when tunnel vision and partisan blinkers take over
because the BBC is still for the most part a state broadcaster both Political Parties think they are fully entitled to tell it, not just how it is run, but what they think is politically acceptable coverage of politics and them in particular
Cut off from taxpayers money will ensure that market forces will shape the future of the BBC, so stuff prople want to see, they will pay for. The lefty political bias and all the PC nonense will simply not survive. If the lefty media luvvies and the Labour party want a neo-marxist propagnada channel, then they can pay for it themselves and people can chose to watch it – or not.
Sure, we will end up with ‘political channels’ and we’ll likely get a Fox style news channel, maybe even a ‘Guardianista’ style liberal channel. However, you get to choose what to watch – remember one one thing that did start in America – the remote control. Even the dumbest Brit knows how to use one of those.
market forces certainly worked for the Banks
would the BBC be deemed too big to fail I wonder?
The BBC has decided what we need is Europe, Climate change propaganda and socialism.
What it needs is to actually adhere rigidly to its charter instead of ignoring it completely.
We need to know the financial interests in the BBC of all these coalition supporters. One suspects rabid self interest.
Auntie beeb primarily, influenced by general consensus.
So make it subscription-only. All it would need is £1 each from Fry’s hundreds of millions of fans.
If it’s that good make payment of the license fee optional.
Sell the BBC, or franchise it or lease it, get some money in FFS
All this excitement, almost forgot about the troughing, the war, the economy,
It’s all arranged. BBC News will become the UK wing of Fox News. In reuturn the Sun won’t mention the phrase “cast iron guarantee”
That’s the new transparent squeaky clean politics.
Murdoch’s had his day anyway
Making Newspaper Websites Pay to view is just the latest sign of his onset into senility as well as his considerable debts to US creditors
When he finally hands the reigns over to whichever idiot son it’s going to fall to pieces in a manner akin to a drowning Maxwell
“Rupert Murdoch’s sons James and Lachlan were there and in front of them a well known shareholder Evelyn Davis stood up and she said to Rupert Murdoch “don’t you dare retire – without you everything would fall apart”. He’s holding News Corporation empire together”.”
The Digger has identified the BBC web operation as the biggest threat to his pay-to-read model. He wants it gone and expects Lightweight to deliver it. Gideon has already started making noises along these lines.
Did he give Murdoch another cast iron guarantee of that ?
Probably not. Cast iron is quite brittle. If you drop it it can break.
Guido, are you still after that job with Murdoch?
Nah, his business is declining, whereas Guido’s is rising.
Back in the 80’s, didn’t you used to get high, oh Guido…
Fucking delicious!
Guido’s site isn’t pay to view
yet
LOL. Guy News to be funded some of the beeb’s licence fee eh? Sounds preferable than giving it to the beeb luvvies.
Wavy Davey should definitely ignore this pressure group when he is finally elected.
I think Wavy Davy will have a rather bigger insurrection on his hands as the eurosceptic pressure group, most of his Party in other words, will put his feet to the coals unless they see more than mere words.
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Dozy cun’t
Err what *farts*
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dozy shit
The BBC is a national treasure, when will these barbarians realise that?
Ok they can’t get close to offering works of genius such as Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, or Our Friends opp North any longer, but come on people the public desperately need the sneering, juvenile, smug, Labour loving input of Nicky Campbell, and his bum boy buddies.
Although they are far wealthier in real terms than the 70’s, quality programming has sky rocketed in price, so how can they offer original drama or comedy?
Frankly if there is any change to the BBC’s superbly slavish political bias, it’s gloriously extravagant overmanning, sorry overstaffing culture, it’s triumphant naffness, it’s obsession with the culture of minor celebrity, it’s glorious financial profligacy, (Wossie must have rival offers coming out of his arsehole), and it’s masterful ability to produce content very few people actually want, I may be forced to write a stern letter.
There is no question the BBC proves state run monoliths are highly efficient, and give great value for money.
Who cares if at any one time 800 young women are in prison for non payment of their license fee, Wossie and Campbell didn’t ask them to spend the money on baby food did they? eh? eh?
As for ‘Oh i dont watch the BBC’, pull the other one love.
You dont watch ‘traffic cops’ repeats from 2006, or anything Adrian Chiles does? Lying slut
Cameron, who called the BBC one of Britain’s “most important national institutions”, said he was a supporter of the licence fee system
Lefty cun’t
And what’s happening about the ‘very senior’ BBC producer arrested recently in connection with the Scottish p••d•ph•le ring?
It’s sky rocketed in price because the BBC has the wherewithal to pay ‘whatever it takes’. It gets the Government to raise whatever is needed to ‘get the job done’. ‘It’s the right thing to do’. You know the score.
But it DESTROYS competition. And that’s BAD for everyone and everything, including democracy.
I am against the TV Licence being to fund anything apart from the BBC but it should be made clear that if any other broadcaster takes money from it then they should be immediately subject to the Freedom of Information Act so we can find how much ITV, CH4 staff earn like the BBC has had to disclose. Must be lots of other interesting skeletons in their cupboards that they would prefer to keep secret.
How I loathe that bloated sardonic lefty ponce, Stephen Fry. I am sick and tired of hearing how ‘intelligent’ he is.
If he was really intelligent then he would have invented something useful, discovered some insight into the cosmos or otherwise advanced the progress of humankind in some way.
Being a smartarse queen on the TV dispensing sarcastic ‘bon mots’ isn’t intelligence, especially when your success only derives from belonging to the correct Oxbridge clique in the 1970’s
And they have the nerve to take the piss out of Camerons Bullingdon mob.
Two sides of the same bloody coin.
If you want to make the BBC howl in pain, then stop paying them. Their ‘enforcement officers’ don’t have a right of entry to your home and pretty much all they can do is send you nasty letters. I haven’t paid them for the last 20 years. Grow a pair of bollocks and resist.
Dds he not have a breakdown and legg it off the stage from a London Play a few years ago.
Wimp
Someone wrote “Stephen Fry is a stupid person’s idea of what an intelligent person looks like.”
you just did
try looking at what you type or using Google if that’s not too intellectually challenging
That’s a good one. I’ll have to write it down.
I shouldn’t be petty but I can’t abide Stephen Fry. Maybe it’s over exposure. Maybe it’s the fact that he’s a fat luvvie poof. Nothing against poofs I might add, it’s Fry’s smug campness – what they do behind closed doors is their business.
BBC should go subscription only. No more TV Tax.
Now the real Oscar Wilde was intelligent, and wity
Do you mean he was a whitey?
If Wildey had said all the things he’s been attributed with saying he’d have had absolutely no time in his diary left for any of the banditry stuff.
True #29, but he worked his way through it and got back on stage at a later date. I wouldn’t call anybody who could suffer an attack of both acute depression *and* stage-fright at the same time, then get back up there again a wimp. An attention-addicted old whoopsie maybe, but no wimp. Once you’ve lost your bottle, it takes twice the bottle to get it back.
After reading his autobiography I was disillusioned with his genius persona. He was a thieving shit and expelled from every school he attended for thieving, after which he went on a thieving rampage with a thieved credit card.
The only thing he could do to be more loved by the bbc would be to say he was asian and he would have a full lberal house: jewish, gay, black, bi – polar(bullshite), labourite – bingo!
Get to fuck mr fucking fry.
Why on Earth should the BBC be worried about an incoming Conservative Government, its not as if they have spent the last 15 or so years rimming the arsehole of the Labour party and various Red/Green groups and shitting on the Conservatives from a great height.
I mean, I can’t even see them pulling all the Government non-job adverts from the Guardian, which is the only thing keeping the GMG going.
they aren’t
if Maggie never tried to shift them the fluffy heir to Blair is hardly likely to and test the publics opinion of whether they trust Politicians or the BBC any decade soon
Flog the BBC off and fund the residue, World Service, Radios 3, 4 , 7 from public taxation.
The world service isn’t what it used to be.
Stop the TV Tax. The BBC should go subscription only.
Is that the same Stephen Fry that did 3 months inside for nicking a credit card and fraudulently using it?
Hurrumph!!
we don’t mention that
The only reason he’s not a Labour Hoon MP by now, but they’ll probably dump that rule too.
Wasn’t any old card either — it belonged to a family friend who trusted the scumbag… nice person Mr Fry isn’t he?
I heard he smoked pot at Eton and took vast Quantities of white powder up the hooter
Hmmm. My previous admiration for him has diminished somewhat.
They don’t like it Uppigham, sir.
A truly visionary patriot would take the opportunity of Lisbon ratification publicity to;
Explain with full candidacy how this situation has been reached at, Immigration, BBC, incontinent control of all financial windfalls, Spin, stealth taxation strategy, the use of statistics etc etc
Explain the Royal Marine principle of being properly Selfish, look after yourself so you are best able to assist those that need it
Explain the time-table and process for a referendum on in/out of Europe
Explain how the 1:4 ratio of wealth creators to administrators can be lowered to the pre-1997 ratio of 1:7 immediately
Explain what all the unemployed will do now we have a new world economy, farming probably
This would produce a landslide the likes of which we have never seen
I choose to pay for Sky / Virgin media. I choose the channels I wish to see and I agree the fee they require. At any time I can call them and say thank you very much but no thank you.
The BBC I am forced to buy a licence. I am force fed a number of channels that promote the government line. If I dont want to watch and wish to watch only the other channels I already pay for I still have to pay for the licence fee (technically ok …ok before you all jump up yes I know I don’t actually but its the principle). If I dont pay up its against the law and I get a summons and a criminal record.
What do I get Jonathon Wross and Nomates (even though she’s quite sexy in her own left wing way)
Compare and contrast
Try watching your Sky packages for Free and see if News their billing and legal department will respond with anything less than full legal action and the courts if you don’t pay em
totally agreed Jgm!
However I can close that agreement with Sky / Virgin Media and NOT TAKE THE SERVICE …Not so with Aljabeeba that was the point I was trying to get across with a TV I have to pay the licence even if I do not watch anything from them ( so a Tellytax)
With Sky etc I have a contract which I can close at the due date and not get the service supplied anymore, nothing further to pay. With the BBC can I do the same?????
See……..
oops JM2P ..sorry
but that’s what we have and is enshrined in Parliament and the Law of the Land so like someone said, it’s a fait accomplit and the reality on the ground so it would be pointless trying to change it
Fait Accompli agreed. I still don’t like woss though.
Don’t like the BBC either but why dont we see anything of that lovely young blonde lady that gave Mandleson a really hard time (not in that way either) She went right off message and into the hearts of all of us but really stuck it to him.
Never seen again after that … Shame
I’m still trying to figure why the EU want to split the banks up , but let this monopoly go unchecked ?
Those greedy Beeboid motherfuckers, they’re not getting a penny from me until they cease to propagandise and they show something worth watching. Just like NuLab they’re troughing pieces of shit!
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http://little-object-a.blogspot.com/
And this little pig did insider trading at the market
this little pig troughed on expenses
and this little pig cried wee wee wee spent all your money
Yep, looks just like the line up on the front benches. Just as well I don’t have to go anywhere near it, for I somehow feel I’d lose my watch in an environment like that!
or the opposition benches
That’s the RBS Executive Bonuses meeting
Are those pigs bollocks – they look like Jaquie’s tits. Whatever. Can one of those likeable mockney chefs cook up something interesting?
just do it once a day, I’m sick of you giving TaT every reason to be repetetive.
Good luck
There’s a good chap
Bye bye, Loser.
Cant entirely agree on that one fawkes , whilst i generally go along with the idea that the BBc has transformed itself into the EU , that doesnt mean to say we dont need public broadcasting . IF you have ever seen a childrens program with sublimals and product placement you will know what i mean . Also some things would never get made comercially , so not sure on that thought guido . Take local radio , my BBc station is very well listened to , my local pop station is about half an hour is all i can take , its just drivell , whose sexy and what did you shop or buy this weekend , yeah but no but , might as well have a lobotomy and iphone and just press the buttons all day
however the end to the licence fee , is enivtable and a slimmer BBC is definitely on the cards , I always thought these sporting matches were overpriced , funny setanta being in the ruins constituancey , mind you they did have problems after he endorsed them .
Slightly O/T
Paedophile to be beheaded and crucified in Saudi Arabia for string of sex attacks where he left toddler to die in desert
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1225006/Saudi-Arabian-paedophile-beheaded-crucified-string-sex-attacks-including-left-toddler-die-desert.html?ITO=1490&referrer=yahoo#ixzz0VqjefUQf
Not surpised its modded
We now, present, perhaps for the first time in our history, the truth
The New World Order for Dummies.
We know where you live and are coming to kill you
An academic lawyer and former TV host is expected to be named as chairman of the body responsible for implementing the shake-up of MPs’ expenses.
The BBC understands Sir Ian Kennedy will run the new Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority.
The news comes on the eve of the publication of the Kelly report, which is expected to demand radical reforms to MPs’ allowance claims.
It follows the expenses revelations of the past few months.
Sir Ian is Emeritus Professor at University College London and chaired the Healthcare Commission from 2003 to this year.
He previously chaired an inquiry into children’s heart surgery at Bristol Royal Infirmary and in the 1980s hosted several editions of Channel 4’s discussion programme After Dark.
It is thought he will be announced on Wednesday as the Commons Speaker’s Committee’s choice to chair IPSA.
MPs have had no role in the selection, though they will eventually be asked to approve the committee’s decision.
Wow incedible experience NOT
where was he hiding before this
?
Importantly, it was to Sun readers that David Cameron promised a referendum if that Constitution – and its shabby replacement, the Lisbon Treaty – remained unratified. So we have more right than most to cast a cool eye over his decision to end that campaign. But Mr Cameron is right. Today, the treaty is a fact of life. Europe can boast it has its own “legal personality”.
So who do we blame for this? Not Mr Cameron, who stuck by his original pledge.
We blame deceitful Labour for welching on their written vow to give us a say.
Instead, they connived to defraud us of a vote and used their majority to ram it through Parliament.
The Sun will never abandon its fight to protect Britain as an independent nation. But we need to be realistic about the perils we face today. Thanks to Gordon Brown, Britain is up to its eyes in debt, the Pound is sinking, dole queues are swollen and we face industrial strife on a scale unseen since the Winter of Discontent.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/sun_says/article244723.ece
“David Cameron promised a referendum if that Constitution – and its shabby replacement, the Lisbon Treaty – remained unratified.”
Winston Smith is their new leader writer it would seem.
I wonder what Murdoch has been promised in return.
so weak Jimmy
this is the Sun we’re talking about who backed Blair and the Iraq War
don’t expect consistency or intelligence from those low watt bulbs
Feck off
The paper declares: ‘This is the election for the millennium. In six weeks’ time, Britain will vote for a government to take it into the 21st century.
‘The people need a leader with vision, purpose and courage who can inspire them and fire their imaginations. The Sun believes that man is Tony Blair.’
Editor Stuart Higgins said last night: ‘This is not a decision we have taken lightly. We consider Mr Blair has all the qualities of leadership required to take this great country forward. The Tories are tired, divided and need a good rest to regroup.’
Mr Higgins told Channel 4 News that Mr Blair had many qualities similar to the Tories, but promised that the paper would remain critical of New Labour, especially on Europe.
Conservative Central Office played down the importance of the Sun ’s endorsement.
What is “The Sun”?
The Sun is the star at the center of the Solar System.
I keep getting bullshit, rude letters from the BBC. They demand that I allow a fucking freelance goon of theirs to come into my home to check that I am not guilty of not having a TV licence. Fuck these twats. 150 clams a year?? Give me a break. I can’t get broadcast TV in my wee home, and I’m thankful for it. FUCK these people need to realise that they aren’t god’s fucking gift to impartial news coverage.
You should drop by Subrosablondeblogspot.
There you will find a piece on the unbiased BBBC by Grumpy Old Twat.
Very entertaining!
Subrosa is also a clever lady with much to say, definitely worth a read!
O/T
This government just threw another 40 billion at the banks today in case no one quite noticed.
Ok no one is interested and I can understand that. Given the losses so far that Labour have caused this is a mere drip. Meanwhile the Labour party still bitch about 4 billion lost at Black Wednesday?????
Run for the hills
I liked Stephen Fry before he became a mindless Labour stooge.
A fat poof, Fry.
Can’t stand him. Likes to refer to poofery at every opportunity, like it’s normal.
Writes crap books, too.
He’s peaked, and needs to be rendered down to biodiesel.
“he has to assuage the anger of those who will accuse him of betrayal by denying the people a referendum”
This quote is from Toenails Blog and your challenge for today is answer this question (a) (b) or (c)
(a) Toenails describing Tory Leader?
(b) Toenails describing Tory Leader?
(c) Toenails covering the arse of the Labour scumbag leader that sold us out after stealing a referndum from us after promising it in a Labour party manifesto for the election of this Labour Government?
URGHHH! URGGGGGHHHH!
Sorry….. the correct answer was either (a) or (b)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/
Even my husband sat up and took exception to Toenails tonight — he generally doesn’t take much notice of the blatant BBC anti-Cameron bias, despite my best effotts.
For those in any doubt who is to blame for our servitude, here he is caught in the very act:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2712808/Britain-betrayed-as-hated-EU-Treaty-is-finally-made-law.html
Take a look at the disgusting grinning nazi gangsters behind him.
Break up the BBC and Sky’s monopoly.
you need to look up the defintion if monopoly. then look up oligopoly.
Sky has a monopoly? Two satellite dishes, each pointing at a different satellite, gets you choice, lots and lots of it. Not too difficult.
Full Hat tip to
No 29. At 11:31am on 03 Nov 2009, boabycat wrote: Toenails Blog
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At the last election, all three parties promised a referendum on the Lisbon constitution/treaty BEFORE it was ratified. Labour and the Lib Dems reneged on that promise. The Tories (Dave’s “cast iron guarantee”) did not. With the Lisbon treaty all but ratified, the facts on the ground have now changed so a new policy on restraining Europe’s influence on our sovereign British laws will have to be thought out.
The electorate will remember that it was Labour and the Lib Dems that sold them down the river and it was the Tories who stood up for them. Every manifesto promise made by Lab/Lib will mean nothing.
One other worthy of posting Hat tip to Andy C555
41. At 12:01pm on 03 Nov 2009, AndyC555 wrote:
I’m sure it’s just me, Nick, but a lot of your blogs are focused on Cameron but hardly any focused on that other bloke. You know, what’s his name, runs the country.
We never seem to read your critical analysis of HIS thoughts, of HIS problems, of the perils confronting HIM.
Can’t think why that might be. Can you?
Here he is @ #72.
The blackest traitor in British history.
You need to cut down on the caffine and pills Suze or you’ll burst a bloodvessel luv
I mean your batty hysteria is funnny, don’t get me wrong, but it sounds like you actually believe it
He’s a fucking TV personality not Kim Philby or Quisling dear.
The Beeb hired an ex-YC chairman for the job. Difficult to know what more they can do to stop your whinging short of hiring Kaminski or Griffin.
Have you lot tried watching ITV , Sky 1, Ch.4, 5 etc.? Or listening to Talk Sport , Capital Radio ? The adverts drive you crazy and the sheer stupidity and ignorance of the presenters and the shows (X Factor anyone? ) just rot the brain.
I hate the lefty BBC bias more than most people ( Andrew Marr’s left wing version of British History is like a parody of Labour bias ) but go on the BBC iplayer and look at the vast range of intelligent ,interesting radio & TV shows mixed in with the crowd pleasing rubbish. I just watched a collection of classic Bluesmen on BBC4 from Son House to Buddy Guy with no dumb presenter , no crap adverts to break the spell, just a full hour of Great Art. ( Ronnie Scott last night). I Claudius ?Porridge ?
Why the hell can’t we keep the best of the BBC but get rid of the Labour Luvvie Bias . It is so obvious to see it can’t be impossible to remove. Or reduce.
Sky is merely US imports US imports US imports and whatever sport he can blag
So people are supposed to risk being sent to jail for not paying the BBC’s TV tax because you don’t like adverts?
A bit draconian innit?
Say no to the TV Tax.
Why can’t the BBC be structured/classed like channel4?
Channel4 gets a small amount of public money to subsidise some aspects like news/itn and documentaries etc that are in the public interest, but it’s allowed to do commercial stuff to boost its income so that it’s not solely reliant on public money. They effectively break-even money-wise with very little public money yet can still do the public service stuff which the bbc does.
I say just bin the license fee completely, put the bbc in the bin, and let channel4 become the public service broadcaster. That’ll save billions of public money spend every year, reduce taxes for virtually everyone in the country, and leave you with a public service broadcaster that actually does its job properly.
What’s the difference between the BBC and Channel4?
BBC: billions every year of public money used to support left-wing agendas with open/blatent bias and monumentally massive amounts of waste/mis-management.
Channel4: a few million each year used to support genuine public service aspects which is streamlined and managed properly.
The difference between BBC news (supposedly independent), and ITN is a joke; ITN reports things in a genuinely independent way, holding all politicians to account. The BBC just openly spins on behalf of left-wing politicians and tries to do what it can to reduce the right-wing vote. ITN news is by far the most reliable; BBC news is lazy left wing propaganda which point-blank refuses to air reasoned arguments.
Fuck the bbc and the license fee. Just let channel4 do its job and give them a few million extra for being there and doing its job so well the last 20 years or so.
….and bring back the “red triangle” films too. those were great.
An actor friend of mine says BBC and Channel 4 will merge next year.
I guess that’d be either good news or bad news depending on who the parent partner is in the merge.
If channel4 effectively take over the bbc then it’s great news as they’ll be able to cull most of the bbc staff/waste and the resulting corporation will be well managed so we’d get value for money and an organisation which actually knows what it’s doing.
If the BBC effectively take over channel4 then it’ll be the worst disaster in uk broadcasting history, as channel4/itn is the only truly independant broadcaster that we’ve got, and the BBC bosses taking it over would destroy everything about channel4/itn which makes it worthwhile.
Bullshit
The BBC should be broken up (with a bulldozer and with all the gays and rent boys and rent girls and dirty old management who are ‘doing’ them, locked inside).
BBC news is complete lying trash read in an ‘Archers’ kind of way by cheap prostitutes, who had their job interview up against a toilet wall.
The slime paid £millions (Retarded Ross, big-pig Wogan, deformed freak Norton, and the collection of drunken oafs on the radio) should be charged with theft, found guilty and hung.
The grabbing corrupt management, paying themselves £millions + mega expenses, should be horse-whipped till their ribs show, then burned alive (on a new show called ‘Strictly burning thieving Hoons’).
The BBC is shite – kill it.
I take it you’re not sitting on the fence on this one…
The voice of reason.
I’ll go along with that. I’d even supply the horse-whip and petrol.
Replace the Andrew Marr show with Guy TV news!
Guido, old bean,
Re your photo in today’s Grauniad – did you make that bloody suit yourself? Jesus H Mahogany!!! Maybe you should try ‘The Big Red Building on the Golders Green Road’?!!!
Charles Moore gets his teeth into Marr’s horrible history series.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/6491340/Andrew-Marrs-The-Making-of-Modern-Britain-is-a-patronising-and-ignorant-piece-of-history.html
Not really a fan of Marr since he left th last job, but this programme was pretty well presented (apart from the annoying monochrome inserts).
It’s one point of view and a discussion document.
I notice that the website for the “Citizens’ Coalition for Public Service Broadcasting” doesn’t have any forum/blog where you can debate the issues on their site. You can support them, but you can’t debate with them, which pretty much sums up the left-wing mentality (ie “agree with us and we’ll give you a voice, disagree with us or try to explain to us why we’re wrong and we’ll ignore you. facts? logic? reason? democracy? nope. we don’t like those. we prefer blind ideology that doesn’t make any sense instead”)
If they did have a public debate then they’d realise that in general almost everyone would tell them:
“How come we need the BBC at all when channel4 is perfectly capable of fulfilling the public service remit at a tiny fraction of the cost yet still give a better and more independent service?”
Their assertion that you need “plurality” (ie more than one public service broadcaster) is bollocks; you just need 1, but you need that 1 to be independent and run properly, and the BBC is neither run properly nor independent.
Their “plurality” argument is a bit weird and makes no sense, they say:
“We are concerned that plurality in public service broadcasting should be maintained in the digital age. However, we do not believe that this can be achieved through “top-slicing” the BBC Licence Fee”
So, on one hand they’re saying there should be multiple public-broadcasters, but on the other hand they’re saying that only the bbc and channel4 should have any of the money. ie they don’t want any commercial organisation to be given any cash, even if that cash is solely for public service elements; it’s a purely ideological discrimination and makes no sense.
It’s the same old left-wing “you can vote for whoever you like, the only caveat is that I’ll be the only person on the ballot paper” mentality.
“elected unopposed”
“the entire uk public supports me. I know this because I said so.”
etc etc; it’s all the same left-wing shite that the unions, bbc, and labour like to use. None of it makes any sense, and it’s all aimed at trying to destroy whatever freedom/democracy we have left.
….but you can leave a disageeable message
No point in commenting. As with all else, all decisions will be made in Europe.
Google is far more interesting than Stephen Fry
Fry’s faux foppishness is just dull
Agreed. Cameron and Osborne’s genuine foppishness is far more amusing
What a great idea! Foppy Day. I’ll put £750m aside to get that up and running by next week. No-one will notice.
So who was the senior BBC man caught kiddie fiddling. If it was a senior tory manager they would never let it rest
Why’s the BBC so expensive? I’m assuming it’s just simple negligence by the people who run it.
A perfect example of left-wing negligence is the Offender IT system (£690million spent, and then abandoned, with £161million gone completely awol with no idea of where it went).
In my old job we used to analyse and build financial systems far more complex/large than anything like the Offender IT system would be, and it’d take about 20 competent staff about 2 years to analyse/build the whole thing, complete with 100’s of reports/screens and all manner of horrendously complex stuff, which (assuming everyone got paid £100grand a year each) would equate to £4 million. So where the £billion price tags come from for these kinds of government systems I’ve got no idea, but I assume it’s the same kind of negligence going on at the BBC too.
Hey, Brown; want an IT system that actually works at a fraction of the cost? Give it to a competent private company who doesn’t take the piss instead of just short-listing the companies that give your party donations.
We’ll do it for 10 million.
There are literally scores of big-money horror stories like these to be found in the government departments and public sector agencies. Yet all that seems to happen is that some overpaid incompetent twat comes before the PAC, gets the ritual polite so called ‘grilling’, then pisses off back to his or her department or whatever for a promotion with their gold plated pension.
The UK has positively third world standards of financial oversight these days. Root and branch reform is needed to root out these clowns.
Dave/Hague news conference @ 16:00 today.
Tough on Euro-excuses tough on the causes of Euro-excuses
Just as MPSs’ expenses hog the headlines.
A Bigger Trough.
I am unable to give any cast iron guarantees, however will be able to give copper bottomed guarantees.
The Citizens’ Concerned for Public Broadcasting Coalition looks like a listing of the usual suspects, Graunidad journalists, polytechnic lecturerers, broadcasting unions, right on actors and actresses. All it needs is signatures from David Spart, Malcom and Cressida, Milie Tant and the Woven Yoghurt Collective of Glastonbury and The Shower of Shit Over Cheshire to keep it real.
Perhaps I should have written, The Concerned Citizens’ Coalition for Public Broadcasting and abreivated it as CCCP.
CCCP-ML(GB) is probably the correct acronym.
The licence fee was a good idea to get the BBC underway years ago, but it has now lost its purpose. Why not reduce the fee now by 10% to help the wider economy then fix it at that new level for ever, so that the massed luvvie ranks have to learn how to become more efficient and concentrate on fewer media channels? As Brown’s QE-fed inflation lets rip, the real cost of the licence fee will wither away, and the overpaid, underworked, beeb-types will have to find a way of earning a living. Easy really, and not as painful some think.
I’m a big fan of the licence fee as the most pragmatic solution to broadcast options. I like the result and consider it far better value for money than the other options.
More please.
You are Stephen Fry in disguise and I claim my crisp new €5.
No you fucking wanker, the BBC is NOT good value for money. If everyone had to pay for Sky it would cost us all about £10 a month as well.
I keep hearing drug using Hoons claim that the BBC is great value for money and they’d happily pay double, well fucking pay it then, I don’t want to pay anything for these leftie mincing queens.
The luvvies would like us to pay more for the social engineering propaganda we are force fed. Wonderful.
Five UK soldiers shot dead in Afghanistan, Europe and expenses off the front page for a while.
Will we look back and say that Camron’s policy on Afghanistan was far more importantant than the EU ever was as an influence on the GE?
Five soldiers die in Afghanistan
Five British soldiers have been killed in a single incident in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has said.
Three of the soldiers were from the Grenadier Guards and two were from the Royal Military Police.
They had all been shot by a “rogue” Afghan policeman who had opened fire within a training compound before fleeing, Lt Col David Wakefield said
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8341659.stm
So much for all that suppposed ‘training’ the Afhgan Police were meant to have received. This disaster lurches from black farce to black farce daily now.
Get the Troops out now
We’re there to capture Osama Bin Liner, stoopid.
He’s in the NorthWest P-stan frontier provinces and has been for years, stoopid!
Predators can take him out without the current massive troop deployment.
He’s a tall bearded man not an army.
And he’s certainly nowhere near fucking Kabul or Helmand so how do you explain our presence there Einstein ?
Is this tosh from the Big Book of Bob Jobsworths feeble justifications ?
Yep, its all bollocks and all to do with controlling oil.
Democracy for the people of Afghanistan, my hairy ringpiece.
“Democracy for the people of Afghanistan, my hairy ringpiece.”
As Abdullah Abdullah said before leaving the sham fraudulent election to fall to pieces leaving corrupt Karzai still in power
Almost!
Giving tramps class A drugs and vodka would provide far more laughs per pound spent than the shite “comedy” skits you hear on Radio 4
They’ve stopped Big Brother now you know
Yeah, that 6.30 evening slot is particularly bad. One or two of the programmes are ok but the majority are bloody awful. Some of them are still doing Maggie Thatcher jokes for crying out loud…not exactly cutting edge satire is it?
The entire cast of the News Quiz should be shot.
do what they like with the BBC – BUT – lose the licence fee.
I strongly object to having to pay to be fed government propaganda and repeat broadcast programmes time and again that I do not watch and will never watch
Absolutely.
I made an interesting discovery the other evening while watching a DVD on my laptop.
A laptop sitting on a coffee table has the same size screen as a TV in the corner of the room.
When the telly goes pop, bye bye licence fee.
£142.50 buys a hells of a lot of movies, documentaries and box sets.
Try “Love Film” DVD in the post rental service.
Costs the same as the BBC. You choose the films, how long you keep them, and how many at a time.
Far better better value than the BBC for films, and the internet is free for a varied impartial news source.
Love Film for rentals.
Also, Zattoo to watch TV on your PC via broadband.
all this bollocks about taste and culture
If Walls Vienetta was available in 1540 Henry VIII would have eaten it every day after his scoffing of mutiple Ginster’s Pasties
Abolish the licence fee.
Perhaps some sort of levy on digital radios & flat screen TVs in lieu of Vat (at 0%) plus advertising will give the BBC a much reduced salary, which is all they deserve. It is impossible for anybody normal to get a job in the BBC; so no great loss to anyone.
The BBC does too much free broadcasting worldwide, which UK households have to stump up for. This should be funded by a government agency, like MI6.
A flat refusal by the middle class to pay would soon sort out those overfed government sponsored propagandists.
No levies no Taxes. The BBC should go subscription only. If it’s as popular as its fans suggest then no doubt they’ll be happy to pay up.
The BBC is not a public service broadcaster, it is a political propaganda distributer for the Labour Party.
Nick Robinson’s News at ten report last night on the Tories and the Lisbon Treaty was a disgrace, the man should be sacked, does he think we are all stupid. What exactly is camreon supposed to hold a referendum on? Why does he not ask the question of why the cornerstones of of sovereignty have been shifted to Brussels by deception and without our consent.
I smell a centrally-planned, pan-european command economy is now just around the corner. Its new super-troughing politburo is already in formation and the newly emerging, brain-dead slave class will be keeping them in clover for ever more. Joe Stalin could only dream of such an event as this.
Because Toenails takes his order from McMong via his Blackberry. No attempt by Toenails to actually point out that it was Liebour that have been in power and THEY promised a referendum as well.
The BBC are Hoons and should be exterminated
So why was Sky hammering Cameron far harder than the Beeb last night ?
You think Broon has a direct line to Murdoch any more ?
You think Guido is taking orders from Broon when he quoted the Cast Iron Guarantee ?
You want those two exterminated as well ?
Tell you what, I’ll keep you updated on all the other TV channels and Newspapers who report it so you can put them on your ‘list’ in green biro too
Sky can do what they fucking like, no one is FORCED to pay for the bastards. Can’t you get that?
The EU has told us that our banks will have to split up because they want more competition with the aim of giving customers better value.
I wonder if they will take a look at the BBC next.
There are plenty of genuine public service broadcasters available over the internet for FREE. Their content is vastly superior, too.
The BBC is a self-serving organisation that spews out messages which poisons children’s minds. It has become a monster that must be slain. Urgently.
One easy way of marginally dealing with our appalling finances is to abolish the TV licence.
Make an equivalent sum available to public service broadcasters from general taxation.
The bloated agency collecting licence money (and terrorising some poor citizens) should be scrapped as soon as the Tories win the next election.
It’s a start!
Strictly go fuck yourselves
Of course the luvvies want to keep the 3.5 billion a year tax, do you KNOW how much a good line of Cocaine costs a typical beeboid these days? How on earth do you think a beeboid can be kept in Cocaine or rent boys on a mere private sector wage?
Honestly, you people are SO out of touch.
There’s something deeply unpleasant about the oily and unctuous creep Fry. Worse still, there seems to be no getting away from his talentlessness. Wherever you switch on your TV; the bastard’s there. Adverts on ITV? He’s on those too. You got a quiz show you want ‘hosting’? Then this old ex-jailbird’s always available if the price is right. Plus of course, he’s always wheeled out to redefine what it means to be English from time to time – as if he of all people would have any idea.
Only Ukip can save us now !
Why, of course. Just 320-odd parliamentary gains to go.
Content provision yah, bring on the reality tv by the bucket load and the Endemol crap! Support the right for complete nobody’s to become stars for 15 minutes and then believe it for the rest of their lives.
Quite. With the Post Office, there is a social and practical need for a universal, reasonably-priced service, so it might be right to subsidise such a service. There is no need for a publicly-funded mass-entertainment channel. Subsidise public service broadcasting, perhaps, but it is wrong to tax Joe and Jill Public to pay for EastEnders, Jonathan Ross and Mr half-a-million-quid Thompson.
Exactly, let them make good quality programs and sell them to the broadcasters, and/or keep their own channels, scrap the licence fee and persuade us to sign up with them.
Maybe we should ask our EU masters?
Here’s a question I was thinking about on the way to work – maybe some people here could help me out with it?
Is there already a word or phrase that describes our political condition? By which I mean, something that most people *think* is a democracy, but very obviously isn’t? Pseudo-democracy doesn’t quite capture it. Doesn’t involve the popular complicity in the lie. Faux-democracy sounds nice and intellectual, but it isn’t really faux – it’s transparently not a democracy at all. An unelected prime minister from a party ruling on the basis of a tiny minority of votes ratifies a treaty that removes national powers that has never been put to the vote. This isn’t even a scooby doo version of democracy with a rubber mask. This is straightforward bureaucracy – in it’s true sense. Government by bureaucrats.
So what should we call it folks? Because I’m rather fucking tired of this sick fucking joke that this country is in any shape, way or form anything resembling a democracy. It may have been. It is not now. And I’ll spit in the eye of anyone who claims it is.
Question 2. What are we going to do about it?
Here’s your problem Frank : It’s a Corporatocracy.
The lines between state and commerce have become thoroughly blurred : Politicians aspire to emulate the worst of the macho-style, testosterone-fuelled management of the 80s and conversely what would have been termed “leaders of industry” aspire to involve themselves in the political process- “Lord Sugar” FFS.
Government’s practically outsourced – via direct contracts of PFI – in all the major functional areas : HMRC, the NHS, DVLA… by the end of December 2007, 62 IT outsourcing contracts alone had over-run to the tune of £9Bn. Tip of the iceberg……
But back to the main point : Did you ever see a Corporate who’s board members were truly accountable to its employees or shareholders ?
Look at the typical behaviour of your average exec when it comes to things like bonuses and how to achieve them. It’s normally a numbers game with every- and anything and/or anyone sacrificed to achieve the “right” result – what they think is their due. All dressed up in the language of “hard decisions”, “best value for stakeholders” and (my favourite…) “moving the company forward”.
Now let a bunch of career politicos translate/mirror that behaviour in an environment where the few restraints that exist in commerce don’t apply, and give them a seemingly unlimited source of funds to further their ambitions.
Sound or look familiar ?
Outstanding comment sir.
The Greeks had a word for it, kakistocracy – government under the control of a nation’s worst or least-qualified citizens.
The root word kakos (κακος) has the same origin as the word for shit.
In answer to question 2, I have no idea.
Sometimes I imagine that the only way to out is to start our own horse-trading party. Basically, get several million people to sign up to a few basic principles. For example, no to the EU, out of Iraq and Afghanistan, lower personal and business taxes. Then go to the political party most likely to be able to implement them and say “I’ve got x million votes going in return for the following. They sign a binding legal contract to do whatever it is.
If they don’t want to trade, then you’ve got (hopefully) enough votes to scupper their chances of a proper parliamentary majority.
(mitigation – I’m on painkillers for an injury so this might sound like some opiate-fuelled crap)
kakistocracy – that’s a great one. I think yes, what we have is close to that but we have *agreed* to it. Our continued compliance needs to be taken into account. This charade is only possible with our consent, and via apathy, fear, self-interest and confusion, we effectively grant it.
Apologies : The potential answers to Q2 :
(a) It’s going bust and the Liquidators in the form of the IMF aren’t too far away.
(b) the shareholders get to oust the board in the 2010 AGM. Meet the new boss…
(c) hostile takeover from the EUSSR.
(d) employee buyout via revolution.
Fucked Democracy?
1 Shamocracy, Bentocracy, Mentalocracy, Sh*tocracy
2 Endure another 6 months probably. Imagine what the Poll tax rioters would have done
“Citizens” my arse. The list overwhelmingly comprises of academics, actors, media luvvies and a whole load of others who would be sunk without access to the state tit. The BBC is not a public service, it’s a broadcaster just like any other. And you’re right, the term “broadcasting” is so old hat now!
It only takes a cursory glance at the likes of YouTube or Guy News to realize half-decent open content can be shoved online at a tiny fraction of the cost.
There is no question that the YouTube model is better. The biggest difference between Youtube and the broadcast networks is that one actually produces content or pays a licensing fee for the content before they sell advertising around it. Youtube doesn’t have to, and these luvvies see the writing on the wall. Now that they have stopped hiding behind the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, Youtube has taken the very smart step of letting content “audition” for the right to sign a license for Youtube to send it traffic and sell advertising around it.
I wonder how many arseholes here watch the DP, or PMQ’s on the Beeb? Who listens to Today to get annoyed at it? Who watches the BBC News Channel to gt annoyed at it?
Who tunes a Radio to a BBC channel?
Oh, we hate the licence fee don’t we? But you fucking wait until it’s gone, and we have American style TV. It’ll happen. And when it does, all those that complained about the licence fee, I will come and kill your dog while you sleep.
this is just noise and froth
a bit of amusing rabble rousing to placate pissed off tories who realise Dave is now owned by the EU
Sod off and get a real job you BBC toerag.
I’m no BBC Toerag. I assure you!
I do enjoy everything the BBC do tho.
I have Sky, full package, and often wonder WTF I’m paying for tho. It’s all utter shite! I watch the BBC a fair bit, and listen to their Radio more often than not. I also enjoy the 4 network, and am dissapointed they dropped their Radio stn plans. ITV are utter wank, and Sky bring nothing to the UK.
I really dread the licence fee being dropped. Can you imagine something like Fox News coming to the UK?
Yes, something needs to change. Personally, I’d like to see the Beeb cut back to BBC1, BBC2 and News. We don’t need BBC3/4. A lot of their ‘extra’ digital radi ostations should go. The money should go into Local coverage, which seems to be going. The rest can go back into maintaining high quality on 2 entertainment channels, and a News network.
Digital seems to be about quantity, rather than quality. I’d like the beeb to compete on quality rather than millions of channels.
I refute that allegation I work for the Beeb, I don’t. I just do like a fair bit of their output. They just need to re-focus on “Less is more”.
“I have Sky, full package, and often wonder WTF I’m paying for tho. It’s all utter shite!”
Unlike the BBC, you have the option to unsubscribe.
If Person A likes the beeb, but Person B does not, why should Person B subsidize it? Other than the moral superiority that Person A thinks he has over Person B simply because he likes the BBC.
I like Sky Movies occasionally, you think a beeboid would cheerfully contribute to my subscription? No, me neither.
“Can you imagine something like Fox News coming to the UK? ”
We desperately need a Fox or an equivalent, which would be a breath of fresh air to counter the incessant leftist-climate change-social justice anti-capitalist tossers and windbags that dominate over here.
Sooner it’s gone the better.
Gotta say, Guido, there doesn’t seem to be too much of a movement to give you a share of the licence fee.
I think *we* want a share of the licence fee. And preferably 100%
Damn. Was looking forward to trebles all round.
I notice of course, that it is Hugh Laurie who is doing so well in the US with House – a Fox production no less! I have wondered how is arse bandit amigo Fry feels about that, probably OK since all lefty opinions and bias are trumped by money and fame. Fry meanwhile continues to rely on the state tit for his substantial daily crust. The guy was great as Jeeves and I even own the boxed DVD set, but really he just became a rantering queen after that and typical BBC luvvie. He should quuit the BBC and get back to some real work.
Yes – Fry makes me puke. Send him round to Barrymore’s to collect a ‘fist full of dollars’.
I heard a ‘debate between fry and c. hitchens on the internet, until that point i considered him a towering intellect, however he was made to look like the pupil before the master when hitchens got going – and he knew it.
The BBC has received its blood money from the ECB in secret loans.
As the EU will be our masters on December 1st there is no way the British electorates opinions regarding the left wing internationalist anti British BBC will matter a jot after that date.
Even Cameron knows he will be the first truly powerless British PM in our history – more akin to a ceremonial Mayors position.
So the EU will protect its own cheerleader & propaganda arm in the UK – the BBC.
£30+ billion of taxpayers’ money into failing banks; 5 British soldiers murdered by “trainee” Afghan troops; government drugs experts sacked or leaving for not toeing the line; £1,000 train ticket to travel from Cornwall to Scotland; army veteran banned from selling poppies in shopping centre due to Health & Safety rules.
Just another ordinary day in Zanulabour Land.
Radio 4 – The Bottom Line
Thursday, 29 October
“Evan Davis and guests discuss those silly bits of paper and metal we call money.”
“silly bit of paper and metal”? maybe if you don’t have to work hard for it – arseholes
How about scrapping the fee (ie: tax) altogether?
Daaarrrrhhhlings . . . how can we continue to produce telly-trash without the fee?
Your next government is Brussels you stupid tory fuck.
Anony wrote:
“Your next government is Brussels you stupid tory fuck”.
Because Liebore failed. Their personal ambition of clinging on to power has been going horribly wrong for some time. It became obvious that they had passed the point of no return, so now it seems they are deliberately destroying everything out of sheer spite. Look at the leak about immigration to see the sheer retarded, bitter & twisted mentality these sick people harbour. You have it too. That is how your short, unintelligent remark reads to me anyhow.
Fry gets 35 grand a show for his scripted QI drivel, much of which funds his coke habit (sorry, self medication for depression) at the license payer’s expense…
I have complained twice recently to the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation, once about the use of the word ‘bugger’ three times on a Radio 4 ‘comedy’ at 6.40pm and once about James Naughtie’s gentle handling of Miliband on Today.
In the first case they came over all relativist, suggesting that they simply don’t recognise standards of behaviour any more, coupled with some daft stuff about the primary audience being adults. Sure, but some adults have children around them at that time of day. This they do not grasp.
The second case was brushed off with more relativism. Moreover they addressed me as ‘Dear Viewer’ and wrote of the challenge of TV interviewing (on Today???).
I certainly do not want a US-style broadcasting system, but unless they introduce a complaints procedure that shows signs of taking listeners seriously they will forfeit the tiny bit of my support they still have.
Recently stopped the direct debit on my licence fee. TV Licencing phoned me to discuss. During the course of the conversation the operative said that when you’re on monthly payments somehow you are always 6 months “in hand”. So that although I’ve stopped paying I still have 6 months licence left.
Now then, when you die, if you are on monthly instalments, you have 6 months unexpired licence left. How many people know that when a relative dies they ought to recover the unexpired period of their TV licence? Not many.
Seems like the luvvies are robbing the dead to subsidies their louche lifestyles.
None of the BBC licence fee should be handed over to other media companies!
Instead the TV licence ought to be abolished altogether.
It’s just a total rip off, designed to featherbed a load of parasites.
I think you’re wrong on this Guido. I don’t want a penny of my licence money given to support commercial ITV that pumps out crap for the masses. I’d also rather BBC1 stopped trying to ape ITV as well.
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