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James Macintyre shows his political judgement..
“I am going to stick my neck out and say that — contrary to conventional wisdom — Tony Blair will emerge as the unexpected winner of the race to become EU president tonight.”
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We will make further transfer of power to the EU with no referendum illegal, err isn’t that exactly what Lisbon facilitates and we just signed up to?
Well thank God for that, only it’s in direct conflict to the now legal treaty which can take powers as it sees fit.
So another meaningful guarantee from “call me Dave”
And No, I am not a Labour troll, we are betrayed by all of ‘em
The Inquisition
Cameo to Conservitude Party
Here Fido, come here little puppy
Arf Arf Arf!
Bang, now stay in there and keep quiet.
master baiter finds it amusing to abuse the Sovereignty of the British People and also he finds it amusing that British soldiers are dying in Afghanistan.
better hope no-one finds out your real identity or you would be a dead man.
Labour = longest recession EVER
Labour = liars, thieves & traitors
tat get shunted and hiss off leaky boiler and all.
There that should do it, huff puff, huff puff
said the dead man.
Full speech is here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8343145.stm
rat a tat a rat a tat a rat a tat a rat a tat
Choo! Choo!
With the Lisbon treaty in force, the EU will never again need to ask the European people for permission again – they can just do as they please.
We can now do away with at least 50% of the MP’s at Westminster as they’re no longer needed.
K.
Look pal, just fuck off.
Hey MB. We showed those Tory fckers. Even that idiot Blair fooled everyone into thinking that he had retained an opt out from the Social Chapter provisions. Ha ha ha. I suppose he’s useful for something.
The integration master plan is well on course. Btw, fancy a job in Brussels?
And I only lost less than £3.1 billion when selling gold at the bottom of the market. So that’s alright then, I am a prudent Chancellor!
Find enclosed £5
Now – Fuck off !
Traitor to Britain and Squaddies.
Nothing you write will have meaning now.
TaT I still read your posts, this is the best post from you this week, I agree your comment.
It’s not £3.1 billion it’s £6 billion and counting – 354 tons at $665 per ounce.
CAMERON – READ THIS U MUPPET !
Why the fuck did you not emphasis to the British public that Labour has committed one of the most trecherous acts ever.
You are letting them get away with it. KEEP THE FUCKING FOCUS ON THOSE LYING BASTARDS !
Mongrel, Well calculated, now have a Lisbonbon Treat and cheer up.
Indeed, better hope the tech savvy boys on ARRSE don’t decide to take a special interest in you Master Baiter.
Is that a cast iron guarantee then Dave?
Sorry, not good enough.
It’s UKIP for this Tory Boy
if you traded something, made something, sold something, ran something, policed something, protected something, transported something, communicated something, fished something, grew something, stored something, repaired something, bought something, spent something, exchanged something, taught something, learned something, powered something, healed something, published something, researched something, reported something, supported something, Brussels had a say in it.
The EU was everywhere.
But what would it be like if one day Britain just said ‘Enough’?
Ten Years On takes us to a world where they have done just that. Dr Lee Rotherham’s new book imagines a future where Britain is free to control its own affairs, to strike its own deals and to decide its own fate.
The first 5,000 copies of Ten Years On are available free of charge
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Sorry, Cast Iron Cam, you blew it.
Won’t get fooled again, you Hoon
UKIP here I come
I got this in my inbox tonight:
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
Pass the sick bag. Presumably Master Baiter will cream his pants at the sound of hs master’s voice.
I think this can only help Cameron in the long run. The referendum issue has gone, the Tories can make their own policy on the EU from now on and, above all, Labour look like a pack of gleeful, ya-boo assholes who are so superdumb don’t realise that in their desperation to screw the Tories, they’ve screwed us all.
May 9th, when we finally kick the bastards out, will be a true liberation from moron Brown and the rest of the gang that sold us down the river.
Their doomsday will be our VE day.
Hope that your identity becomes known MB.
There will be quite a surprising number of folk wanting to appraise your belief system.
Hideous creep.
Thanks DD that was a very good article. I felt quite murderous after PMQs — Brown better not holiday in Suffolk again, we’ll set the dogs on him.
MB’s lord, God and master has deigned to respond to the ePetition “in the name of God, just GO!” with:
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.” (copyright 2006,2007,2008, 2009 Gordon Brown/Damian McBride/Derek “Tool” Draper and 2010,2011 David Cameron)
MB you are the worlds greatest onanist. No surprise really as you are also an apologist for the retards who are trying to run this shit hole that was once a nation.
To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so.
To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished.
It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured.
That is government; that is it’s justice; that is its morality.
MB I am truly disappointed at you. You led me to believe I only lost £3.1 billion when selling our gold at the bottom of the market. It seems now that this figure was closer to £6 billion. Were you part of Blunkett’s edukayshun revolution? No wonder you can’t count.
Geez Blunkett and Blair really have screwed up our education system. Better not speak too loudly about this or our core vote (that which has not gone to the BNP) might hear.
As this is simply not possible I see a further EU-turn if the Mod Cons get a majority at Westminster.
Great!
mportant Statement
Today I stand before the British people and with a heavy heart have to tell them that the Lisbon Treaty has been ratified and that my “cast iron” promise of a referendum is now little more than a rusting hulk at the bottom of the UK garden.
However, I pledge to work tirelessly with our parners in the EU, I further pledge that I will personally, if elected, sign an amendment that will never again allow any future treaty to be passed without the approval of the British people.
I understand that there are some out there who will say that no future treaty is required and that Lisbon is self amending, so no future British Government will have any say whatsoever in future EU legislation.
Well I say to them quite candidly, yes that may be true, however I will not indulge in gesture politics, cast iron guarantees, or meaningless promises, the British people are, rightly fed up with such politics and rightly we have listened to them and from now on, my party will not get involved in such matters.
Instead we will work with our European partners delivering the kind of country that they feel the UK should be.
I therefore ask the British people to buy my redundant Referendum Lock, and proclaim with cast iron determination, NEVER AGAIN!!
Now on UKIP TV:
http://www.ukip.tv/?p=814
Watch out for that horse!!!!!
Yeah, lets allow UKIP in. Like it’s not enough to have UKIP MEP’s up on criminal charges of fraud the moment they get their snouts firmly into the trough, we’re now expected to not notice this and elect even more of the crooks into power.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6951841.stm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6136068.ece
The only U-turn UKIP should be looking out for is the U-turn when they drop the soap in the shower at Belmarsh. (Hint: keep your soap on a string round your neck)
As Dirty Den said “Their doomsday will be our VE day.” We need to start planning the celebrations now: street parties, banners, bunting, booze, singing, dancing, fireworks, the works. The biggest outpouring of public relief since the end of WW2! Everybody in the UK invited – except NuLabour.
Oh, and a moment’s silence for all the victims of this wretched misgovernment.
The USA Republic began after the Boston Tea Party, I think that has something to do with the C-nts not listening and running rough shod over the masses. Can’t wait to hear Cameron tell to eat French Cake, I mean what a bunch of totalitarian fuc-ing nonsense is this. What about the strategy to Train a load of Afghanistans finest to take over in 40 years time. Dosn’t look like that one is going to work is it? F–k me its what happened to the Russians they trained the Taliban who turned against them. Why can’t they get the lads out of harms way, as if I didn’t know
New Labour=Shite
Financial misconduct = pay per post = MB = Labour
MB, a minority will vote UKIP, the vast majority will vote Conservative.
You and your party will will be annihilated.
Nothing you can do about it.
Not sure which is best, enjoying the the anticipation now, or savouring the reality in May. What the heck, I’ll settle for both.
Ha ha.
Loser.
Losers.
If you read what Cameron has actually said:
“Furthermore, we would change the law so that any use of a ratchet clause by a future government would require full approval by Parliament.”
That means that it is business as usual. The government of the day can continue to sell Britain down the river without holding referendums. They just get the lobby fodder fucktards to line up and collect their thirty pieces of silver as they pass the whips.
Total fucking sham.
I will never vote Tory, Labour or Lib Dem again.
Exactly the same way Lisbon was pushed through Parliament, you mean Grimer? Yeah, I noticed that too.
So treaties get a referendum, BUT there won’t be any more treaties due to the self-amending nature of Lisbon. So that means NO referendums = we get NO say!
The “ratchet” mechanism only requires MPs to rubber stamp them.
Nice try Dave, but we see through this con-trick.
It’s UKIP for me!
We won’t give away any more power ‘cos there ‘aint any left…..
I feel cast aside.
exactly.
I know Dave Cameron will be reading this, so here goes.
It’s good Dave, It will be enough to trick enough tories into supporting your new world order Dave, but after being shit on and lied to for decades, it’s not good enough me!
We cannot TRUST the EU to go along with this.
The one and ONLY cast iron guarantee of our sovereignty we can have, is to leave the EU.
It’s UKIP for me.
You can not trust the three main parties anymore….. People should seriously consider voting for UKIP, Green or independents. I will certainly be voting for UKIP. For the record, I have never voted for Labour and have always considered myself a Conservative. I will not vote for David Cameron he is a liar!!!
“Never again” huh? That’s how I feel about voting Conservative.
Not good enough, Cameron. You failed to convince me.
Not a word about the hordes of immigrants either.
We needed a referendum on remaining in the EU, not this wishy washy bullshit you waffled about today.
Isn’t UKIP the new name for The Guild Of Village Idiots,I’m sure you’ll feel right at home.
Dave says, “We can’t have a referendum now”
Oh but we can Dave, just not from the Tories.
There are other parties offering a referendum and I don’t care if that plays in to Labour’s hand, because quite frankly it’s Nu or Blu Labour, there isn’t much difference between them and a few years down the line Westminster will be a tourist attraction as it will just be rubber stamping the EU laws.
Ok then go ahead have a referendum,say you get the response you expect,what you going to do then (I)
Westminster has effectively become little more than regional authority, under direct control from Brussels, now that Lisbon has been ratified.
If CMD imagines that the EU will concede anything other than some symbolic authority to him in return for lapdog status, he is profoundly misinformed, unimaginably stupid or more likely, utterly duplicitous.
His rather pathetic echo from the past about renegotiating our position in the EU, is worthless, the EU has never conceded anything it has not taken back at a later date from anyone.
His comical “referendum lock” or his pronouncement of “never again” are as worthless as yestedays papers.
CMD might fool the hardcore tribalists ala Phoney Tone at ZaNuLab, but tories are by and large, able to discern hogwash when it is placed before them and there was plenty of that, but nothing of substance, in his statement today.
What folks have missed is that the ‘referendum lock’ applies to Treaties obviously, the Euro but also any use of the ratchet, that is, any conversion from unanimity to qmv, so that the primary purpose of Lisbon to eliminate the need for unanimity on any issue has been blocked.
There could be referendums at any time after the general election on a host of issues. Cameron is claiming that a British referendum will override the ratification of Lisbon.
Cui, not Qui. Pronounciation guide below. Pronunciation?
Above. Double whoops.
Coo coo Heidi,
‘Ich habe euch liebe’
What Gweedo needs are some ‘Orthopedic Stockings’
Trier, famous for the Porta Nigra, Karl Marx and Guido.
This is for the Germans!!!
You’re barking up a fruitless tree. GuyNews reports can’t even pronounce Guido – they say Ghee-doh (as if it’s French) rather than Gwee-doh (as it is correctly pronounced). Apparently education ain’t what it used to be.
Guy Fawkes fought for the Spanish and hence took the name Guido – hence it is pronounced Ghee do, not Gwee do (the “u” is there to make the “G” hard and is not pronounced)
Sorry Heidi, it’s Spanish so hard G as in Ghee
Not in German it aint, hence, I would imagine, ‘Heidi’
All just smoke and mirrors, whatever act he passes saying there must be a future referendum can itself be repealed, or indeed ignored whereupon a newer act, perhaps one for another euro treaty, would take precedence.
he was never going to allow the referendum. he could give one on EU membership but he like brown, mandelson, blair, hague, major, clegg the whole damned lot want us to stay in the EU. so we’ll never get a chance to speak. UKIP for me. Hopefully it will be enough to stop the tory candidate winning in my seat. i know that means labour will but i don’t care – i want the tories to realise they can get my vote back anytime by promising to make us a sovereign nation again.
Well said.
UKIP for me now, too.
And I no longer care if we get Nu Labour or Blu Labour – it’s EU rule all the way now unless we can get out altogether.
Who to vote for? …..
Brown dithers, Cameron fudges ….. and they both fiddle expenses
So, in summary, Mr Cameron said that there is no way he wants to come close to actually asking the populous what they think.
He also promised to consider thinking about looking into researching the possibility of commencing to discuss and recommend a range of feasible options to be tabled and introduced into a debate about the likelihood of exploring the practicalilty of initiating a task force to evaluate the merits on a cost benefit framework whether there should be an opening in negotiations into proposing a re-evaluation of key elements of the Treaty in the favour of the UK.
Oh good. Democracy in action.
Losing my vote there Mate.
So why don’t the Public do something about all the betrails by each party. we are all to soft, high taxes, and I bet more on the way. We are realy suppid, if they did it in France the french would be big tim protesting.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Fuck off, malware.
Ahh! Did the nasty Cameo lock the kennel door on all the loony tory europhobes?
Czech his guarantees with great care.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
P45 for you next year , old mate.
I’m glad you come to this site,it kind of makes me feel superior.
being a nulabour supporter you must have been a loser from
your childhood.Bet you didn’t lose your cherry until well into your
twentys.I also bet you look funny dress badly, perhaps a dribbly lisp
wear thick glasses,have very few friends? hate anybody being
succesfull?ugly?be honest some of that will be true.
Pathetic loser.
Labour = ugly losers.
Czerry, isn’t it?
Best Czech, just to make sure.
Czerry Blair?
Thats enough Czech puns.Ed.
Labour = party of traitors
Labour = Still an amazing number of Marxists at the top.
Such as, how do you put an old commie like Johnson in a top job like Home Secretary!
Corruption personified !!!
Bastards !!!
How did an imbecile like Ainsworth get anywhere near Westminster, let alone government?
No worse than having a fucking dinner lady for home secretary.
I resent that!
By the way, I’d now rather clean Mark Oaten’s coffee table with my tongue than vote conservative.
Thanks a bunch, Cast Iron Dave.
Labour liars=Using our troops as cannon fodder
Financial misconduct = untold billions deficit = Labour
If he is being honest, which I doubt, this means that when (not if) they use the powers granted under Lisbon to take further powers away to Brussels, we have a referendum and leave Europe. The tricky bit is that Gordon “scorched earth” Brown has signed a document giving the others the right to fine us any amount they choose if we leave. What a fucking patriot!
If you are reading this, Cabinet Ministers, get rid of him now, and throw Milicreep and Balls out with him. It won’t help you cling on to power, it’s far too late for that, but you might at least find that not everyone will spit in your face in the long years you will spend back in the real world.
They’ll fine us, will they?
And how are they going to enforce it? Invade? Lock us all up? Cut off diplomatic relations? Cut off trade? Double our ’subs’ – oh.sorry, you don’t pay any subs any more, do you?
They’re going to fine us. Oh, I’m simply so afraid.
Could get interesting. The EU is a protectionist group masquerading as a free trade area,so I would expect them to try to use trade tariffs as the mechanism, and hope that the WTO drags its feet as usual and fails to enforce international law. We will need to be close to the US to pull it off.
Now stop wanking, Rip. This is serious.
Good Points, well made.
The truth is that there is bugger all Europe could or would do if we completely ignored every single commitment made by past governments. Treaty’s are like sporting records, made to be broken.
Although speculating on what may or may not happen politically in the UK is not as useful as speculating on the future thinking of European people as a whole.
The EU is only marginally more popular in Europe then it is in The UK. On all counts the popularity of The EU is stable at best, and falling at worst. There is no foreseeable future event that could possibly reverse this trend. The controllers and sponsors of the EU, must know this to be the case.
The trick is to understand that there is far more that unites all groups in opposition to the EU, then there is that divides them.
Left-right, it makes no difference ANYMORE. Liberty cuts across all wings. As does things such as political accountability, property rights, individualism, and family.
Please try your absolute hardest to get through your ever thickening skulls this simple proposition. I feel sure if your think about it hard enough, all may start to become CLEAR.
SOCIALISM = CAPITALISM
What they ultimately have in common is that they are both ideologies controlled, sponsored, propagated and invented by THE ESTABLISHMENT. Therefore not surprising are just similar forms of SLAVERY. Which is why the worlds greatest/richest/and most all powerful capitalists, are indeed the worlds greatest/richest/ and most all powerful socialists. At the TOP, left and right do not actually exist, accept as tools of mass manipulation.
The people at the TOP, have always been at the TOP, and at the TOP is where they very much plan on staying.
BTW
Has anyone out there noticed how quiet the British Royal Family have been over the issue of The EU?
I don’t remember such a deafening silence from the Royals when last Europe became united under a similar form of fascism. Could it be that this time it is actually the British Empire calling the shots in Europe? Many of our European and American brothers certainly believe so, even if a majority of The British people do not have so much as a sensible clue.
This is exactly the point of this referendum, once Lisbon has been fully ratified, it gives the EU the power to automatically push through any policy it wants, without it having to be discussed or debated, Cameron knows this.
Point being that there wont be any point holding referendums or discussion about any further EU policy, because the Government WONT HAVE ANY SAY in the matter! Therefore, it is totally fucking pointless promising us referendums on future EU policy, because future EU policies wont be debated or discussed, they will automatically be made law! Like I’ve said before, Cameron is all spin, just like Labour. Don’t trust him
Guess it never occurred to Dave when he gave the “cast iron guarantee” that the Irish would have a rerun and vote the other way, leaving him up shit creek without a paddle.
Something about snake oil.
I should know.
He was sacked from his job as a snake oil salesman. Sounded too insincere!
He thinks he’s talking to nursery school kids!
Anyone with an ounce of common, can see through this chancer!
He may be from Eton, but he can’t fool the plebs!
“I promise you this………….” !!!
Thought Fraser Nelson on last night’s newsnight had a reasonably good suggestion, that Cameron would have to ease us out of the EU by stealth. That would take c5years he thought, but would be worth it. Too right!
Why piss about? If we’re coming out then have the balls to do it.
Mitch weve had enough of Balls x 2
Cameron did elude to that in his speech saying that these measures today would take an entire Parliament, BUT if they failed, then new measures would be put to the country at the election AFTER next. Measures like … vote for us if you want a referendum on withdrawal from the EU?
Sadly, it will be far too late by then as the other 26 nations will have used Lisbon to shaft the UK beyond recognition by then. We may be well on the way to being broken up into tiny regions and all dissent outlawed and punishable by death by then!
The ONLY way to guarantee our Sovereignty is to get out of the EU altogether.
I really do admire Cameron’s determination to stay in and fight, (IF he is serious), but that will be very very long and costly fight.
We could achieve far more in this country if we pulled out now, saved the 60billion+ per year and started work on getting this country working again.
I’m voting UKIP!
“then new measures would be put to the country ”
Ned – you have to listen to the slippery ***t with 100% attention. He said might not would. And you know what that means. Or if you don’t, you’re beyond help
I don’t
He’s NOT COMING OUT OF THE EU !!
Christ, he’s told you often enough!
He’s ONE OF THEM !
It’s a Bloody Conspiracy !
UKIP – or die !
why didnt a journalist ask him that exact question?
They did, but he did not answer that part.
I am a Cameron.
and a total, total, utter, complete one, to boot
I’m still here. Can I just remind you that I am not into hoon? Not my cup of tea.
Look, Cameron announced a load of waffle today, and to make sure he got less votes at the election, he said he would welcome into Europe basket cases like the Balkans and worst of all, Turkey.
Way to go Cameron, I can see more support leech to UKIP now.
Turkey? I should have know the man was mental after his late dash into Georgia after 080808. Either that or it’s step one in the Cameroon 5 Year Plan to subvert and destroy the EU.
UKIP? Inviting Turkey in plays into the hands of the B&P!
Perhaps that is the end game?
The B&P win votes and get MP`s elected to Westminster, the EU steps in and bans “extremist” parties that are not pan European “mainstream” parties, ie socialist in one form or another.
Thus allowing the “temporary” closure of Parliament until the political situation “normalises” ( all allowable under Lisbon ).
EU speak for vote as you are told or not at all, just the way they want it to be, when all is said and done.
Fewer, ignorant wretch.
As if Europe hasn’t got enough muslims causing trouble from Stockholm to Naples.
Creating Eurabia, that’s what it’s all about.
Check out the book by Bat Ye’Or
Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis
Wasn’t the point that Lisbon was argued as a ‘tidying up’ rather than a transfer of powers and therefore no need to have that promised referendum. So how will it be different next time?
Got news for you Dave. The “passarelle” clause means they can do whatever the fuck they like.
No parliament can bind its successor; you are aware of that, atren’t you?
So unless you grow a pair and start acting like a statesman, me and several thousand like me are going to fuck off and vote UKIP.
Several MILLION! there are millions who have not voted in the last few elections because it was blatantly obvious that only Labour would, or could, win.
However, more and more people from this group of non-voters are realising that actually, contrary to popular, media-spread myth, That THEY are the biggest political power-block.
With a solid, once in a millennia reason for getting out to vote, ie, to stop our sovereignty being pissed away to tie us into a dictatorship, The media and “mainstream” (so-called) parties are in for a fucking BIG shock!
Yup. I was never very happy about having Cameron as leader. This sorry episode absolutely seals my vote for UKIP – the first time in over 20 years that I haven’t voted Conservative.
Vote UKIP get labour …twat!
Having reflected on David Cameron’s speech on a new European policy, let me offer a few lines of reaction. Tim Montgomerie has just tweeted that he is disappointed with it. Let me explain why I am not.
What David Cameron achieved today was to deliver a speech which was gritty, determined, realistic, statesmanlike. There was no bullshit. He just told it how it is. He reiterated the point that he never promised a referendum once the Treaty of Lisbon was ratified and that to do so would have been futile. And he’s right. And deep down in the recesses of their Eurosceptic heads, even UKIP members and supporters know it
339 – you are a prat – really you are !
You sad deluded git (339)
Heard Cam on the radio at tea time. What a Fucking let down!!
Cam is NOT the Man.
UKIP it is.
What happened to Daves Cast Iron Guarantee to hold a referendum?
Just NOT good enough. Dave as PM can hold any referendum he pleases. Blaming Blair and Brown is NOT good enough.
We want action Dave, not Blame passing.
What I want to know is, as a matter of protocol, who takes precedence on state occasions. If Tone becomes President of Europe, does that mean that he and the fragrant Cherie take precedence over the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh?
If so, there will be a popular insurrection.
Blur won’t be President of Europe, regardless of all the hot air masquerading as a head of steam from his loyal coattailhangers in ZANU and the Beeb. Neither will the Boy Millipede (D) although I’m sure pretty everyone treated that as the pathetic joke that it was.
Dear Subjects
I have today attempted to stem the tides of the English Channel, but all to no avail. Despite the flow of the tides being against me I am still confident that we will indeed be able to make the oceans obey the demands of you, my subjects and a crave your further indulgence and your continued support, especially since there is an election coming up.
Yours
Canute, King
Precisely, Scenic: Guido misses the point from very close range re that one. Too busy giving interviews to Guardian hacks….and allowing the myth to grow that he broke the Brownonpillsandblind story. Oh no he didn’t – I did, so there: yah boo sucks, and I’ll get him at playtime.
Yesterday Man http://www.notbornyesterday.org
Yes so vote UKIP
Suckers. Don’t believe a word I say.
Tories to bring back Old Money
“”Our sovereignty will be enshrined in our silver sovereigns,” hailed the party leader.”
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i62735
He’s right: Gordon’s signing of Lisbon has now made his promise of a referendum almost impossible to frame both legally and just as importantly in a way Joe Public will be able to answer with a straight “yes or no”.
“almost impossible” is not impossible.
646 cretins.
Cretins? Certianly. Possible? No.
The nearness of the thing to “impossible” is why he will bottle it. Too many opportunities to get into some serious scrapes.
The full horror of the shafting Labour have dealt Blighty hasn’t even begun to raise its ugly head.
Cameron’s right to just chuck it out there – go on the attack. I can not believe anything Labour has ever said to be true. They have ransomed this country for pennies, for nothing, for a handful of beans on the way to the market and never even for 1 second had the wit, the common courtesey, the manners to ask in their conceited venality ‘are we sure this is correct?’
My fury has been subsumed for some time because of the impact it was having upon my mental health but I am livid beyond all reasonable measure.
It disgusts me to have to lower myself to their level but we’re past that now – they want a fight, fine – let’s see how they fight an angry, polarized and contemptuous opposition now! I really just wanna puke.
Dick, get an axe and go and chop firewood. It is great therapy. Each swish just another politicians head on the block.
Just make sure you keep your prick out of the way.
The fire lit by labour is enormous and Cameron has decided to fight it with a water-pistol!
The ONLY way to guarantee our Sovereignty is to get out of the EU!
> The ONLY way to guarantee our Sovereignty is to get out of the EU!
Not only that, but the treasoners need to be executed as a lesson for studiers of history.
Auction the right to swing the axe.
Agreed.
The only good thing to come out of this unholy mess of a betrayal is that it might focus minds on a full exit.
Labour have just saddled everyone in this country with hard work for the next decade and they couldn’t give a flying fuck.
‘hard work for a decade……’
You must be joking. Decades.
that long, At LEAST!
I would reckon that we will be back to the early Victorian era with everyone who has a job working 14 or more hours a day six days a week to keep body and soul together, and it took a hundred years to get from there to “Most of our people have never had it so good”
Hard work? You having a laugh? Hard unemployment more like.
Bye Dave.
Bye Offski.
Bye Dave and Offski
Dave’s off skiing.
Off piste?
Dear God, I may be an Fundamentalist Agnostic, but please please grant me one Avalanche.
Dave off Davoski
Sam likes “skiing” with Dave and George.
Its all in the pole action.
UKIP must be having a great week.
An even better week for Labour until Kim Howells put his foot in it.
He’s a bit like Kinnock but with an O level.
I may be thick, I may have been a useless leader, but I’ve now got pots of euro money.
That’s lovely.
I can see UKIP taking up the Freehold of the Commons, come Election Day!
We’ll ALL be f…… surprised then !
Cameroon should really read a few blogs and then he would know what a load of …….eerm……. smelly stuff he is saying.
Its all over laddie the stable door hasn’t even been bolted and the horse has gone…….to the nacker’s yard. Yer too late….and so are we.
Shit! Some folk………
Yup, neat trick that, sticking one foot in your mouth and shooting yourself in the other.
You can’t bind future governments. So this is just a sop…
Brown did with Lisbon
Major did with Maarstricht.
nope, both could be repealed tomorrow, as can lisbon or indeed our entire membership of the EU.
it is just a mental binding, still dangerous, once these things are in place people are afraid to challenge.
a sad day for democracy. brown and clegg both lied and betrayed england. now dave has too. that is all 3 major parties. utter scum.
That only leaves UKIP and the B&P to stand up for us. I admit they are shite choices, but either of them are better than remaining imprisoned in the current, corrupt, expensive EU dictatorship.
We need to get everyone aware that people who OPPOSE the current political status quo are the clear majority. There are more of us than there are tories and labour combined.
Well, the lefties will tend towards the B&P.
As a former loyal Tory Boy, I’m off to UKIP
Anything can be repealed by the deployment of large calibre weaponry.
Sadly, Brown and most of the other half wit egomaniacs in Parliament seem unable to understand that the reason we have democracy is that it avoids the necessity to take up arms to undo injustice.
They also seem to believe that they can get away with it because the British people are supine and apathetic. Read the history of the English civil war and much of the conflict over the last thousand years and you will realise how terrible is the anger of British people when pushed too far.
There are very angry people out here, politicians. You really do seem to be suffering a dangerous dose of ‘groupthink’. Read history and understand it.
Mr Cameron, you and your party have done not enough. Brown, you loathsome arsehole, and your feral pack, have done far too much. You are sliding to the brink of an abyss.
Look at world population levels. Correlate with war, disaster, epidemic and civil collapse. Read history and understand it. Hint – war is the biggy!
Understand that violence works – as does terrorism. We are not stupid, and we are not going to put up with much more of your contemptuous treatment.
I agree with all from 251 onwards, I was just pointing out (for the hard of thinking) that it was not just the Labour party that have lied to us and sold us down the river.
Major, Thatcher and of course Heath have all betrayed us and our fathers. I was trying to warn against the folly of voting Con in the hope of getting rid of the current Labour scum. You will end up with the exact same type of scum.
Well said.
LibLabCon are all scum.
Well, what is happening here is the steady relinquishment of power of a government to a newly-created (in the scheme of things) higher authority, a sort of non-time limited power of attorney. Wildly, wildly dangerous. The US version, i.e. State vs. Federal power, was there from pretty much the off and the thing is structured with that in mind. Study the American constitution and how it evolved via the Amendments, if you have time.
That is why we must stand up for the soveriegnty that our forefather’s gave their lives to defend.
There is only one way to do that peacefully. GO AND VOTE THE “MAINSTREAM” BASTARDS OUT! Tell EVERYONE you know.
This is OUR battle to tell future generations, and all we have to do is put a little cross on a piece of paper.
Our forefathers toiled in shit and mud for months and faced artillery batteries, bombs, machine gun fire, grenades and minefields.
WE HAVE GOT IT PISS EASY!
So let us NOT let them down. We have NO excuse! When totalitarian dictatorship reared it’s foul head in NAZI Germany, the Germans did nothing to stop it.
Let us NOT make the same mistake.
FIGHT for OUR Sovereignty on election day! Vote the “mainstream” parties OUT NOW!
Politics and voting can’t solve treason by this countries administrators.
I rather fear it will be solved by watering the tree of liberty.
BEST SCENARIO ! UKIP SWEEP TO POWER !
THEY PUT ALL THE TRAITORS ON TRIAL !
STARTING WITH BLAIR, BROWN, mandelson……
Let’s go for it !
Only if the bring back capital punishment first.
‘Never Again’ that’s my motto – we’re all happy Germans now.
Not one penny for any of these troughing MPs (Member of Piggery) when they leave the ‘battlefield’ of the Commons. They are a disgusting self-serving bunch and deserve nothing!
David Cameron – see footnotes.
Twon clerk register that is.
David Cameron has announced a United Kingdom sovereignty act to ensure that British law takes precedence over EU law.
And that boys and girls will be a “plywood guarantee”
He is a worse con artist and liar than me.
Nobody is. You are the absolute worst.
Brown can be beaten in the lying stakes – just wait and see…..
He’s ceratainly got one eye on his place iin history…
“Mr. Woo – he’s got a naughty eye that flickers:
You should see how fast it goes when he’s ironing Ladies blouses!”
Correction:
“Now Mr. Wu, he’s got a naughty eye that flickers.
You ought to see it wobble when he’s ironing ladies blouses.”
This complete cock up is all Brown and Blairs fault.
Blair has wanted to be EU President for many, many years – this was well known in ‘circles’. Mandy was brought back to keep Gordo in until the ratification. Wait for Blair to turn up – Brown and Blair make me sick – cock up this Country for their own ends.
Cameron has broken no promise. How he can stand opposite Brown week after week, god alone knows.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225051/Blair-ditch-push-EU-presidency.html
He’s back!
Not yet!
Giggle
The EC movers and shakers have got to reward, somehow, Blair for reneging on his promise to hold a Lisbon referendum, so there will be renewed effort to make him EU president . This renegement was of course the second time that Blair acted treasonably in trading on actions which were to the detriment of UK interests; the first time was Iraq.
Brussels is very handy for the Hague… I’ve noticed that the French are going after Chirac and the Italians have just removed Berlosconi’s immunity.
Take note Blair, there’s going to be someone somewhere with a very awkward writ one of these days.
41, you’re right but let’s face it – we’re only on earth once each and one might as well make the best of it. Who gives a toss about anyone else; put your head down, get on with it and make what you can for your successors and family. Blair is doing a top job in that respect. I admire him for that, his timing’s been perfect.
Well fucking do something about it then!!
When do we get a voice!?
With Blair its not a voice, but a lamp post, or a bullet
The United Kingdom has been subjected to a bloodless cooup whereby we have apparently lost our right to govern ourselves.
We have, by dint of deviousness and treachery, been denied our inalienable right to express, in democratic fashion, our collective will as to our desire, or otherwise, to become a vassal state of the EU.
This democratic vandalism has been perpetrated by EU oficialdom aided and abetted by the Labour Administration and in particular by certain members of the Jockia, Taffia and Geordia.
We are now being advised that even to hold a Referendum on the Lisbon Constitution is illegal and/or useless because Lisbon has been ratified.
The citizens of any nation which has been subject to a coup have the duty to seek an opportunity to restore as best they might the democratic right to which they are entitled as freemen.
We in England do have such an opportunity!
We can hold a Referendum on whether England should become independent of the other elements of the United Kingdom and have out own Parliament.
If we can hold – and win – such a Referendum we should be able thus to declare ourselves a NEW INDEPENDENT STATE (preferably with effect from 23rd April 2011 – St George’s Day).
As a NEW INDEPENDENT STATE we would not be bound by the terms of the Lisbon Constitution as none of our elected representatives would have signed it and we would in fact have to APPLY for membership of the EU!!!!!!!!!
This would leave us free to hold a further Referendum on whether we wished to apply for full, partial or no membership of the EU – which is what we were promised and should have had in the first place.
The other element of the United Kingdom could be offered similar Referenda.
By product of such an arrangement could include solutions to the Lothian Question and also Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish subsidies.
A vote for full independence by Scotland, Wales and/or Northern Ireland might, of course, lead to a demand for repatriation of the English element of the Royal Mint and DVLA from Wales, together with the demand for English taxpayers to be dealt with by English tax offices which would doubtless affect employment at Cumbernauld and Llanishen!
Brussels would, naturally, be informed that after Independence Day, 23rd April 2011, no further monies would be due to them as England would not be a member of the EU.
I commend this solution to the country.
Simples.
Too long
says the long wank
no no, the length of the rope around your neck is just right.
fingers crossed.
Kerching!
tat is a guidiot the oaf clone used to flatter the sites stats, the secret is safe though isn’t it guidiot?
a tatbot
Nope, he is a window licker.
said the traitor as he reached the top step of the gallows.
could apply to both of you really.
hmm… what no ban?
window licker? you cheeky fucker.
I’ve put food on your table sunshine.
Oh, I get it now! Master Baiter is a window licker! I see what you mean!
Big Foot, guidiot the oaf was referring to tat as a window licker. It is an unfortunate term because it is inappropriate since tat is in fact a worn out old steam engine with a leaking boiler that gets up steam very slowly and with great difficulty, never maintaining it for long.
We are tat and we are legion
naughty naughty 6.01pm.
do not do it again.
but yes you are correct, thick as thieves is legion.
and I have bashed the brains out of legions and legions of liblabconbn p trolls.
I have slain them all. I am undefeated. I am top boy.
for many years now I have been slashing and hacking the shit out of the party political traitors who infest this place with their constitution and country damaging party propaganda.
I have searched high and low for worthy opposition. there is not one among them who has been able to defeat our hero, the great thick as thieves. not one.
and so, through all the blood and guts and constant battle I have done my best to hold the line and I have provided cover fire so we can now storm the parapets and start executing summary justice to these MP thieves and fraudsters:
SO GET OUT THERE AND VOTE INDEPENDENT MOTHERFUCKERS!
do not let top boy down.
We’re not paying you for that last post Baiter, it was 10 minutes after your clocking off time.
Sorry, but have to economise now, Kelly report and all that.
Yep, that will do nicely.
Good ideas.
What a bucket of shit
good to see you have finally learned some manners OP.
well done.
and thankyou for complying.
oh yes please, let me just clear a space on that glass coffee table for you.
You deserve to be force-fed dog pie through a funnel, you dirty rotter.
oh yes please, let me just clear a space on that glass coffee table for me.
If he thinks that is going to get my vote he must think I come up the Clyde on a bike.
Tories/Labour? wtf is the difference. Bunch of fucking wankers the lot of them.
UKIP muppets are going to get my vote now.
UKIP are fucking muppets. Sadly, I will also be voting for them now.
good that will give you 5 more years under Labour great move.shit for brains
Might not be a bad think if it finally makes the Conservatives wake up and smell the coffee.
I honestly would vote for Brown – the Hoon, rather than this Cameroon piece of crap. Mad I know, but anything to bring this pile of shite down FAST.
Cameroon has betrayed us!
But just imagine the look on Moron McSnot-Gobbler’s face when he discovers he’s got to deal with the effects of his scorched earth policy. Funny that it was used by both communists and Nazis in the soviet union in WW2. Would the last person on a plane to Oz please switch off the lights.
I might be almost worth it to see ZNL having to deal with the steaming pile of economic shit which they have created.
I also want to see Caligula Brown giving a peerage to a horse (shortly before he smashes a few more things)
It is far beyond voting now. They – all of the MPs – have abused the electorate and have mocked democratic process. Cry havoc!
Lisbon has been drafted in such a way that no further treaty will ever be needed, it’s a self ammending treaty!!! DC knows that so is promising nothing.
Unless he gets to grips with keeping his promise UKIP and the BNP will clean up next May/June possibly to create a hung Parliament.
With all the crap we have had from politicians over the last few years the electorate won’t stand for this sort of fudge any more.
Cast iron Cameo and his cast iron lamp post delight the loony tory eurobsessives when they are let out of the kennels for walks.
Look at the slobbering, look at the tails wagging.
Throw them a biscuit, hahahaha
My favourite type of biscuit, er, I will have to hold a review about that.
I’m gibbering again, must wipe spittle off Labour Party issue keyboard.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht! hahahaha, Conservitudes, a wank I think.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
QE is OK now.
Lisbon is not a sweet it’s a treat!
Hague looked more like a gnome than ever last night, glad Cameo made him front up on the cast iron guarantee. Hate the gnome really, hate the gnome.
The whining gnome, he tries to use Churchillian cadence too, puke, puke, puke.
This exactly the point of this referendum, once Lisbon has been fully ratified, it gives the EU the power to automatically push through any policy it wants, without it having to be discussed or debated, Cameron knows this.
Point being that there wont be any point holding referendums or discussion about any further EU policy, because the Government WONT HAVE ANY SAY the matter! Therefore, it is totally fucking pointless promising us referendums on future EU policy, because future EU policies wont be debated or discussed, they will automatically be made law! Like I’ve said before, Cameron is all spin, just like Labour. Don’t trust him
To be fair, the fucking EU already impose shitty laws on us already, so ratified or not, makes no difference.
Death to all politicians.
We pass this constitutional ‘lock’ law in our Parliament and hold referendums… what are the EU going to do? Fine us? What if we don’t pay up? What will the EU do about that? Chuck us out of the EU and ban all trade with us? Their businesses won’t like that. The places we used to trade with such as New Zealand, Caribbean, Kenya, South Africa still exist and we can trade with them again as well as India and China… most stuff is made in China anyway these days — fuck Europe.
Britain is not in the position to flounce about holding referendums atm getting the EU’s backs up — we are bust, bankr•pt.
Chamberlain was despised for Munich, but if he’d not got some sort of agreement with Hitler at the time, we’d have been invaded, blitzed within the month along with France. Munich bought another year for us to organize and rearm. Even Churchill is reputed to have remarked in the BBC studio after his “we shall fight them on the beaches…” speech, “Fuck knows what with…”
> Even Churchill is reputed to have remarked in the BBC studio after his “we shall fight them on the beaches…” speech, “Fuck knows what with…”
That was part of Churchill’s greatness, we would fight and with anything we could.
CMD is no Churchill, CMD is not even a Chamberlain. Chamberlain had little choice, and delay was probably the least worst option. CMD had a choice to fight or surrender. He chose surrender.
Chamberlain pot perhaps
Two lumps for me, please
And contrary to his conference speech, we see now:
1. He pisses on the War Dead
2. He supports Big Government
192 – Arguable, that one: Hitler often expressed a quaint admiration for Britain, and was – apparently – reluctant to fight what would have been not just these Islands, but the whole Empire; Hitler used the year’s grace Chamberlain gave him to continue his arms build-up, and taking over Czechoslovakia gave him not only yet more conquered territory, and the Skoda armaments facility, but the neutralising of the Wehrmacht: how could they criticise, let alone oppose, the man who had luck on his side?
And, if this Country had been on a war footing from Munich, instead of living in a delusion, we could have got our armaments going full blast, avoided the Fall of France and The Phony War…
But then, knowing the bovine nature of this Country, we would probably still have voted Labour in – 1943? – and then spent a happy few decades being garrotted by Stalin.
I disagree with both of you Jethro and ACO… instead of lack of armaments in 1938, read cash and a fit economy — you may not have noticed, but we are bust.
Withdraw from the EU now and the pound would be dumped overnight — we would not have a currency — you would not believe how fast it would happen. The only thing which is keeping it above the 50p/1 Euro is the prospect of a Conservative government in May and even then it’s not going to be a walk in the park.
Call Me Dave should stand down and let Ken Clarke become Leader !
Heseltine for Deputy Prime Minister, lke randymandy.
Francis Maude, as washer-up……………
the list is endless…………..
What’s the point of having political parties now we have a TREATY? We just won’t need them any more, and that’s no bad thing?
FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING TRUNCOAT TORYS
Truncoat: emergency supply of breakfast cereal kept in the boot of one’s car.
V amusing
.Never in the field of Tory politics has a Tory leader used so many words to say so little
Now he is saying a referendum would be triggered by a ‘Significant’ transfer of power – what does that mean? And who is the arbiter of significance?
It’s just more sophistry and wriggle room.
I can happily announce that I will be the new EU high diversity arbiter of significance (€350,000 pa, free maserati, unlimited expenses) and I’ll make sure you peasants never ever get a say. Oppose me and I will get the BBC and guardian to call you a little englander and imply that you’re racist – hope future tory leaders pay attention, for their own sake.
When you do, my Lord, some colleagues and I will be pleased to arrange an introduction for you to a very high calibre gentleman by the name of Mr Barret.
It means exactly what it says – bugger all.
ZaNuLab …. lies, lies, lies and more damn lies….
ZaNuLab….. corruption, corruption and more corruption……
ZaNuLab….. odious marxists
Time for change!!
Hmmmm…. Right = Bad
Left = Good
???????????????????????????????????
not for much longer!!!!
Oops, nearly forgot ……… to poop on the Scottish ZaNuLab Mafia !!
Cameron – When the Labour party held its nose in 1996-7 and backed Blair it was because they knew that he would win power for them. I don’t think the Tories feel 100% like that about you.
I don’t care what Dave says. I am not voting Tory now. And NO I am not a Labour troll – before some arsehole accuses me of that.
Liar!
Arsehole!
You mean to tell me that up until now you were seriously considering them?
Shut it, you slag!
Well I was considering voting for them if they would promise the referendum, country before party etc. Just like in the 70s I would have voted labour to get that referendum (and I am a capitalist). Now? No chance. And I’ll try to get everyone I know to vote UKIP. Won’t win but might deny the tories some seats.
Pfffft!
Or is it?
And they wonder why nobody goes to vote at any of the elections.
I second that
I’ll vote for that.
http://guyfawkeyourself.org/
One of your startups, OH?
He didn’t have a choice, he promised a referendum only if the treaty hadn’t been ratified…….
Let’s instead focus on which snivelling weasel crept in and signed the constitution, sorry treaty via the back door, he didn’t even have the guts to do that bit properly.
Seems to me the real culprits here are the party that promised a referendum if they were re-elected into power, then reneged on that promise and signed the treaty as the governing party…..and Broon has the cheek to imply that his government stick to their promises during PMQ’s!!!!
Pleaseeeeeee, you are not telling me that ZaNuLab tell lies??
Maybe Cameron meant to write in the Sun
Cast eye on guarantee, but it’s not what he wrote.
He’s shut the door on the kennels and locked all the loony tory eurobsessives inside. they better keep quiet too or there’ll be no walks to relieve themselves against cast iron lamp posts in the park.
Am I repeating myself again and again?
A wank I think.
Says the token site retard on the diversity ticket
Oh so he promised a refrendum knowing there was at least 18 months for it to be ratified i.e. it would be.
How brave.
Too true, the gorgon getting on his high horse about tories reneging on their promises! The hypocrisy! DC promised a referendum IF the treaty were not ratified before he got in. It has been ratified, games up, all over bar the shouting. That gorgon, that bastard blair and their spineless backbenchers have a lot to answer for.
Is there any reason why an incoming government cannot arrest all those MPs who voted in favour of ratifying the Lisbon Treaty for treason and then reintroducing the death penalty for that offence. I’m sure that it would not be too difficult to find a euro-sceptic judge to find that voting to ratify the treaty was treason. After all, B-Liar managed to get Hutton for his enquiry. How many lamp-posts? How much piano wire?
Don’t use piano wire,
it’s too quick.
Use a rope
and make it thick.
After 13 years of NuLab misery, I have no words for this other than unbearable.
There is a short sci-fi story whose title sums it up, ‘I have no mouth, but I must scream’.
I feel like the Munch(e) painting ‘Scream’ looks!
“Never again”?
I give it five minutes before Denis MacShane pops up and says some more stupid things about Kaminski on the back of that.
Tories have totally lost their media grip on this one.
We’ll win in the end, but we won’t seriously start to fight until we’ve nearly lost. Remember, the Left thought the Soviet Union would last for ever.
Weak. Super weak.
DC you are the same lying breed as Blair & Brown.
You know & we know that you will be powerless.
On December 1st 2009 Great Britain ceases to be a nation state. Fact.
And we have no Conservatives in the Conservative Party to say anything about it – too busy lining up their sights on the triough no doubt.
Shame on you DC – and shame on the Comnservative Party for lying to the electorate & allowing this to happen to us.
Hello UKIP.
UKIP are a bunch of headbanging, red faced, one tune idiots.
But they suit our puposes Conservitudes.
Haaa haaaa
“headbanging, red faced, one tune idiots”
I’ll believe you, being an expert in such matters.
The person above masquerading as Master Baiter perhaps is trying to refer to the untied kingdoom nincumpoop party.
It is funny watching Cameo’s carefully nurtured greenish, compassionate, recycled trainer wearing image being smudged away to reveal the true bigotted little englander beneath and all thanks to the fear of the nincumpoop party. It must be so depressing being rightwing, they’re more like ferrets in a sack than the marxists.
Indeed they do. DC should have known that if you do.
I will vote UKIP on principle MB, unlike you who even though you are obviously middle class & public school educated seem to be infested with the same tribal myopic loyalty as those shop stewards who have gone on to get filthy rich in public “service”.
Agree 100 %.
Well done everybody.
P.S. Peter could you be a little bit more discrete with the new watch.
Words cannot express the utter contempt I feel for Parliament right now. King John and the Sheriff of Nottingham were better thought of by the English peasantry than this lot. We ought to repay their bloodless coup with bloody one of our own and knock up a few guillotenes. Heads in baskets for Nov 5th would cheer the country up. So would watching the Houses of Parliament burn to the fucking ground. As usual the English are too timid and pathetic to do anything about this and will apologise and look embarrased whilst Mong and his crowd of crooks continue to fuck our arses.
Honestly if a sack of shit stood in my constituency right now I’d rather vote for it than any of the current parties.
646 constituencies have a sack of poop representing them already….?
Not true – sacks of shit possess a higher iq, more attuned moral compass and a stiffer backbone than the current house
Shit HAS served a purpose as it transits your gut!
That’s why they brought in the terrorist laws, to keep the indigenous population at bay!
Look out your window, walk around your town centre, the english are going the same way as the dodos mate, they have either fled while they could or have died out or been outbred.
Accepting hordes of cowardly people who cannot even find the courage or loyalty to fight to make their own countries a better place and paying them money to produce as many babies as they can generally ends up with one result.
Ending up with a nation of spineless cowards, worthless chattel, serfs.
Now we all will either end up like them and having to flee to some place only for the process to happen again or we will end up having to fight ourselves one day down the line.
UK — the sink estate of Europe. I think you are probably right.
Go to Iain Dale’s blog and see the whole speach. Read it carefully. It is very clear and concise. Perfect.
read it.
disgusts me to think that a heathite traitor could ever again lead the Tory party.
sickening. ukip will get many voters and members from this treachery – and where are the real tories in the party?
where the fuck are they?
Yeah, it makes for grim reading.
What a useless sack of shit Cameron has turned out to be
Shameful – absolutely shameful.
Who the hell does Dave think he is? More to the point, why is he treating us like idiots?
If he becomes PM will he have any power other than that of a regional clerk for the real power overseas?
This wont stand.
Good point, and knowing they will lose power, ZaNuLab are scuttling off to Brussels to join that gravy train!!
If you behave like an idiot why shouldn’t he treat you like one?
Enjoy the rest of your life under Labour or Lib/Lab pacts or Lib/Lab/B&P/Greens because that it all you’ll get under PR which Labour says they want in the next Parliament. Easy just vote UKIP in all those Tory/Labour marginals.
I’ll be off to New Zealand (having vote Tory first if I feel like being kind to morons like you).
How’d you get into NZ, Susie? I tried and they said they weren’t letting anyone else in… s’not fair (can’t say I blame them though).
If he’d been a hero he’d have been up front leading the people against the enemy. Joan of Arc knew how to lead the people, and she was French!
Shame it all ended with her getting the old auto de fe treatment.
Joan of Arc – heard the voice of God. What does that make you think of? Maybe I should also ask who it makes you think of?
With real power residing almost entirely in Brussels, what are those 646 MPs for? Can we now get rid of them all and turn Parliament into an hotel or something? Most power will now be only local and can be managed by local councils.
Can we get rid of the Royal Family now? They serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
Fuck me, we haven’t even got a Royal Navy any more. It’s the Euro Patrol or some such shite.
We’re doomed, I tell you, doomed!
Yes, HM Queen and family are now superfluous. They have now no function whatsoever. Buck House would make a very fine hotel.
WAR AGAINST THE BRITISH PEOPLE EH?
BRING IT ON LET’S FUCKING HAVE IT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF UPTIGHT SHORT SIGHTED NARROW MINDED HYPOCRITES HAD ENOUGH OF LYING THIEVING STEALING MOTHERSBOYS SELLING OUR COUNTRY DOWN THE RIVER
TIME FOR A REVOLUTION MOTHERFUCKERS TIME FOR SOME NATURAL JUSTICE
WE MUST HANG THE MPS WHO HAVE BETRAYED US
WE MUST HANG THE CIVIL SERVANTS WHO HAVE BETRAYED US
LAW AND ORDER MUST BE RESTORED AND IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY THEM TAP DANCING FORM THE END OF A ROPE THEN SO BE IT
THE BRITISH PEOPLE SAY NO SURRENDER: WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES
WE DECLARE WAR UPON THE CORRUPT AND FASCIST EUROPEAN UNION
YOU WON’T TAKE US ALIVE MOTHERFUCKERS
PREPARE TO BE FUCKED UP YOU EU ASSHOLES FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR MOTHERS UP THE ASS NO VASELINE
“No Vaseline” – nice touch.
But I’ve already mixed in the broken glass…
Steady on , that Mark Oaten will be here if he gets wind of it.
…wind? Is that ‘giving notice of motion’?
Stanislav? Is that you Stan?
Stan was never so unrefined. We need you Stan, this blog is deteriorating fast with the likes of MB, clearly on overtime down in the bunker.
BASTARD, BASTARD, BASTARD.
*cast iron dave* = EU puppet
Me Blame. It was me that signed the treaty efffing
right quite
Misconduct=Financial Inquisition
I feel like I’ve been raped.
yes….. but you should not tease Ten Bellies Prescottttttt !!
When did he lose the other five then?
We have.
Cameron has really fucked this up. He had two choices.
1. Still call a referendum on Lisbon and state that a no vote on Lisbon by the British people would be taken as him as a mandate to cause fucking mayhem in Europe and bring the entire project to a grinding halt unless Britain can re-negotiate its terms. That would be a massive winner for Cameron
2. Call a referendum on leaving the EU.
Number 1 is what I wanted, but would’ve settled for 2.
Lying, nob-end, useless Conservatives.
Again.
Dead right. Those were his choices, but with his obsession with the Bliar position on the middle ground, he bottled it. Either of those would have won the GE outright.
We now face the prospect of NuLab STAYING IN POWER, thanks to millions of us natural Tories sodding off to UKIP or anyone who will actually fight this country’s corner and splitting the anti-NuLab vote.
And while we’re at it, Dave, why no persistent attack on:-
- Gorbals Mick’s officials for accidentally shredding all Bliar’s expenses claims;
- Brown for sending Gorbals M to the Lords;
- AND ABOVE ALL, Andrew Neather’s revelations about NuLab’s stuffing the country full of foreigners to spite the white population?
EVERY ONE of the above deserves the widest publicity to convert the idiot 20+% that STILL support NuLab.
Instead we get silence. Pathetic.
Too right on Andrew Neather and his revalations. Not being Tat, I wouldn’t normally call anyone a traitor because they happened to have different views from me, even on the EU.
However, I now think of this Labour government only in those terms. I always thought they were spineless, incompetent, lying, vindictive, nasty little socialist shits.
Now I realise many of them are in fact traitors, just like the 70s union leaders who served the KGB. They are enemies of the British people and this country’s culture, heritage and traditions.
For the first time in my life, I would be glad if someone really did shoot some of these bastards. Where is the IRA when you need it? Oh, I forgot, they are friends of this lot.
Socialists are ALL scum and lying kunttezz. That’s what being a Socialist is about.
Shame on you Dave,the Conservatives have lost another vote, mine,one vote may not matter but lots of other lost votes will.
I think they’ll lose alot over this piece of shite.
Cant trust ‘em..
Bad as the fuckers in Govt now..
God knows who to vote for in the GE, certainly not Dave.
Why isn’t DC REALLY angry like most of us. Because he’s a politician – of course.
Unbelievable.
How can he actually say those words?
He may as well rub our own shit in our faces and then send us the bill for cleaning his hands.
Cameron – blown it completely. This will split the Tory vote and eventually the Tory Party.
All Westminster resistance to EU fascism is over. Pass the ammo.
Cameron is a total wanker, just like Brown.
England DOES have a written constitution – the Magna Carta but more importantly, THE BILL OF RIGHTS – upon which, apparently, the US Constituion and BoR’s was modelled.
There’s T R E A S O N and then there’s aiding and abetting T R E A S O N.
I have a hunch that both are still punishable by hanging.
Troops home now to help us take back our country.
REFERENDUM NOW! – the question??: EU – in or out
Military Coup – NOW!
Chicken coup – NOW!
135 – I’ve got a cold, so Chicken Soup now, please, Mutti!
We dont have a military leader with the qualities that Pinochet displayed; but oh just think of it,closing down,for a while the BBC, closing down the mosques and sending the imams to the umma,ending all air trafic with Pakistan and Afghanistan, deporting all illegals, scrapping Lisbon (for a start), dragging Blair thru. the courts…imagine, its easy if you try.
Fascist Brown has all our troops dying for his vanity when the real battle is here.
That’s why he won’t bring them home.
Sadly not. Tiny Blur and the Cronies repealled it
Having said that anyone who knows their history will tell you that this will lead to civil war.
Civil War, Bex? Nah, we’re too watered-down and spineless now. Might upset the mortgage payments and destroy the lawn. Betcha…
Sorry. The death penalty by hanging is no longer applied to treason. One of the first changes Tony made when we came to power.
Danke schön Tony!
yes he did didn’t he – must have had a crystal ball
213 – Unlike some. How did the old song go? (clears throat)
Prescott, he only had one ball;
Tony had two, but very small;
Mandy was inexpicably randy,
But poor old Dave-boy had no balls at all.
All together now!
“Never again”, eh? Jolly good. Do we get a cast iron guarantee of that?
Bloody apalling – what a complete sell-out. I genuinely wanted to vote for CMD, thinking that Hague might have more influence and that “Call me Nigel” is a a bit of wonker, but hey, needs must when the devil drives. CMD has completely lost it in his little Westminster bubble – dreadful.
Fuck zanulab, and their ZanuCon allies.
All fucksters…
Now we are proud fully paid up members of the TREATY (constitution), will we be dragged in to a change of currency? Into the dreaded Euro?
Big Foot, time to dig the heels in?
You do nothing for our cause, Elite Wanker. And tossing off is probably all your good for.
Don’t worry, vote Tory at the next election, and maybe we can claw back some rights, vote Labour and you will be sold down the river to European control.
Look out for that Horse!!!!!!
“Look out for that Horse!!!!!!” – what, that stupid 300′ feckin’ thing in Kent??
“Behold a Pale Horse”….book of Revelation…
I was watching Cameroon’s press conf at 1600 and the thought of the ever-looming Euro crossed my mind BarefootC…. Or will Copenhagen take us directly into the one-world Phoenix/global currency, therefore bypassing the Euro. This is a long-time-stepping-stone agenda but I don’t think, given 2012 seems to be very important to ‘them’, that ‘they’ have that much time left to completely smother us in their much longed-for GLOBAL TOTALITARIAN DICTATORSHIP.
There’s no stopping these traitors now – or so they think. I guess a violent revolution may be on the cards – granted it’s right at the bottom of the cards – if we can stir the chavs off their arses and into action….sigh.
I, for one, will not go quietly and without a fight.
Nor me, and that makes two of us!
We’re about 11–6p off having the Euro already and have been for the last 6 months if you look at For-X.
1 Euro = £1.11p
1:1 Parity is totally meaningless. It’s economic alignment that’s important.
We are currently below alignment with both Iceland and Ireland. It’s over, it has been for at least 2 years.
If you’ve never heard of Brian Gerrish – you should:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQUJZz7oPw&NR=1
(previous Albert Burgess video links are still awaiting moderation above – I heartily recommend Albert too – you can find him on t p u c dot org or youtube him)
Gobsmacked.
Shocked.
Stunned.
Will the real Conservative Party please stand up? Now – history is watching.
The Conservative party is over. Only UKIP or the other one left.
Expect much more of the same from the tories.
No surprise there really
Whilst CW was fully aware it was a bit of a tester , Dave handled it well and it seems as though the fink was right after all , It was measured and clear with a very tempting prospect indeed in the offing , of making sure that the decievers and meddlers dont do it again as well as undoing all the left wing waste of time that it put out.
He is also right that the oppositions would love the tories to waste time on it , I have to trust his instincts on it , he hasnt thrown in the towel , and he has identified the betrayal of democracy that labour and the lib dems have done , so i have to trust him .
CW gives it a hounourable and practicle thumbs up and agrees that until we have had our general election , then little can happen .
Quite right, the Conservatives are the only hope, vote Labour and Europe are going to completely control us. Gee the last time was 1066!
Quite right cw and Liz.
I refuse to be a lemming hurling myself off a UKIP cliff — Peter Mandelson’s probably booked his mate’s yacht to watch the show from a safe distance.
I wouldn’t vote UKIP either, rather vote for the Raving Loonies. Probably tory though to get rid of Newlabour.
Please tell me you’re taking the piss.
Too late…..
“Too late, too late
To seek forgiveness.”
Come back Neville Chamberlain. You were a tower of strength compared to the thieves and cowards that now sit in Westminster.
Fact is, there’s pretty much nothing Dave could have done at this stage.
Either he has the referendum, which is completely pointless at this stage, or he doesn’t, in which case he is shown to be completely untrustworthy for breaking his “cast iron” guarantee.
In truth, he is a complete twat for not thinking of that before giving a cast iron guarantee that a microsecond’s thought would have told him he couldn’t possibly honour.
What does that say about any other promise he might make before the election?
You mean he might mislead us on other things?
It is not too late to have a referendum on continued EU membership. Don’t you realise that Lisbon basically leaves the UK with the powers of Swindon Borough Council? If you can’t be arsed to read the treaty then go and take a look at the table on the Wikipedia page relating to the Lisbon Treaty. You’ll see the only powers we are left with are setting a few bye-laws and encouraging tourism. The EU will take control over everything else that it chooses to take control over.
We have been utterly betrayed.
Well, of course Dave could have announced a referendum on continued EU membership. Maybe that would even be quite a good idea.
But that’s not the point. He promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. He didn’t promise a referendum on continued EU membership. He would still be breaking his promise even if he had a referendum on continued EU membership.
Seconded.
2 years ago GE was in the offing, Ireland, Czechs Poles were a definite NO.
An organization that tried to set up the criminal Blair as its unelected President, and God knows what gangster will eventually become its president, and you say – “Fact is, there’s pretty much nothing Dave could have done at this stage.”
I’m guessing you don’t really mean that. You couldn’t mean that. I hope you do not ware a poppy to commemorate the sacrifice of those who “died to keep us free”.
What do you think he could do, realistically? The Lisbon Treaty has already been signed. There’s nothing he can do about that.
He could promise a referendum on taking Britain out of the EU if he wanted to, but that’s a whole different question.
show some spine DOM for fucks sake man.
you are presenting as a spineless tory coward.
get your fucking act together and defend your country’s constitution.
what is wrong with these deadbeat surrender monkey tories FFS.
What on earth makes you think I’m defending the tories?
Which bit of “he’s a complete twat” did you not understand?
My point is you can’t trust a word he’s saying. He promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty (note: he never promised a referendum on EU membership, so that’s not the point) which he knew he couldn’t deliver.
In the same way as fellows of the Mohammedan faith qualify their mention of the prophet’s name with “peace be upon him” or somesuch, Dave and all public facing cons should now say something like ” Treacherous Bastard – may he hang soon!” every time the name of Blair, McSnot or the filthy Judas chapter that is the New Labour party is mentioned.
There are countless opportunities to do it every day, yet all we hear from them is “The PM has been very naughty”. Suspend membership for a few weeks – just long enough to try, promulgate and confirm sentences and disembowel the dirty pox-mothered betrayal monkeys.
When I am Queen I will command all burglars, rapists and thieves to leave their victims with a note saying “Smile, you’ve been Browned/Blaired/Clegged”
I can’t really believe it. I really didn’t think the f*cker would go back on his word. His written bloody word. What a stinking little arsewipe he is.
I can’t really believe that the rest of the Tory party are going to sit back and let him get away with this, but with their bloody leader telling outright lies and then having the hyprocrisy to blame everyone but himself I have to believe anything of them now.
My old man was right. He’s been telling me to vote UKIP for years. Well its job done for me now. I can’t see any good reason for voting Tory now.
Tories are finished. Its either UKIP or the other one.
Conservative voter previously. Won’t be this time – twats. UKIP for me…
your anger is understandable but please don’t forget the real architects of this betrayal. The Arch Criminal Tony Blair and his spastic dog Emperor Mong.
and Cameroon is complicit!
Fuck the Tories!
Well I’m not fucking voting for them either ! Why vote for the Tories when it’s clear there’s nary a gnat’s pube between them and labour.
These promises Cameron is giving us.
Would they be cast iron promises, cos obviously with his record on u-turns we can’t accept anything less.
Never Again is right; Never Again will I believe or trust Cameron and Never Again will I vote Conservative whilst he is leader of the party.
Get used to it, Little Englanders.
The Lisbon Treaty is Law and there’s nothing all you Surrey toffs can do about it!
New Labour’s vision of transforming Britain is going forward according to plan. Britain will be at the heart of a dynamic, progressive, multicultural Europe.
You can’t stop progress!
not bad for a fascist
Who are you calling fascist?
The Fabians are centre-left and Britain’s oldest think-tank.
The Fascists were extreme right.
Were you educated under Thatcher?
The facists appealed only to the working class. Therefore they were extreme left. Got re-branded by AJP Taylor who wanted to give the Tories a bad name.
So, er….
“National Socialists”.
Fascism is fascism, regardless of which end of the political spectrum it occupies.
“The fascists were extreme right”, you say.
Wrong.
Fascism is a system that seeks to impose a single viewpoint on an entire population. It can come from right or left, cf Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, and – given enough time – NuLab, as well as the useful-idiot Fabians’ usual repertoire of right-wing villains.
(My daughter was educated under Thatcher who at least had the decency to give bright kids from unprivileged backgrounds access to a decent education via the Assisted Places Scheme, and free university education for non-Scots. Neither condition applies under NuLab.)
“Who are you calling fascist?
The Fabians are centre-left and Britain’s oldest think-tank.
The Fascists were extreme right.
Were you educated under Thatcher?”
Obviously you were educated under Labour, Fascism was born on the Left, Stalin positioned them on the right as to distance himself from National Socialism.
Run along now little Fabian.
Not so Fab – The Nazi’s were National Socialists, just like the EU National Socialists who are in charge now.
Why then did Oswald Moseley come to his British Union of Fascists from Labour. To his death, he described himself as a man of the left. he should know.
Fabian,
I think you must be trying to wind me up. Hell I think you’ve succeeded!
Lacking a little imagination, aren’t we, Fabio? How about a future UK government decides to ignore this new Law of Nature you seem so proud of? What the fuck will the EU do to us? Fine us? Fight us?
Wow! Fabians! Sounds like….Kuntz!
Ill offer £100 for information leading to the arrest and conviction for the act of treason just espoused by Fabian Solutions.
Can anyone see all 26 countries agreeing to give us our balls back? The only thing I agreed with Cameron on is that the treaty is now law. Negotiating on WTD/ Climate change/ fishing/ human rights or any other “buzz” issue is pointless.
So the best Labour outcome looks likely; a split in the conservative vote. I am a lifelong Tory but I will vote UKIP in spite of the danger.
I am waiting for someone to suggest we should increase our contribution to compensate our friends for any agreement on repatriating our powers…
Sigh.
I’m betting Susie’s Husband shags loads of other women, but she always forgives him and lets him back.
Cheap shot Anti-whatever… and below par.
But FYI — we’re in each other’s company every minute of the day because we’re both so rich we don’t need to work at all, so fuck you.
Actually you’re right it was cheap, and I apologise. But I’m so fricking angry, and “sigh” set me off.
I run my own company, so work is rarely a chore.
Accepted.
The Secret People:
They have given us into the hands of the new unhappy lords,
Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords.
They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
Their doors are shut in the evenings; and they know no songs.
We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.
It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
God’s scorn for all men governing, it may be beer is best.
But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.
We have not spoken yet…… they think we are all dumb fuckers!
You have spoken more than enough already, you reactionary Toryboy.
UR a fascist who hates the peoples right to choose their governemtn – we have estqablished that from yesterday.
now fuck off and carry on wanking over pictures of stalin you anti democracy creep.
I am in favour of democracy. The EU is democratic – ever heard of MEPs?
Your Stalin coment was uncalled-for. I wouldn’t say the same thing about Maggie Thatcher.
“The EU is democratic – ever heard of MEPs?”
Ha,Ha,Ha, exactly virtually nobody has ever heard of their Mep, know what your Mep is even called? be honest not 5 minute time delay while you look it up on Wikipedia.
Ever seen a news report on what is happening day to day in the EU parliament? Bit difficult to have a democracy when you don’t even know what’s going on.
So where is left and right in this EU parliament then? And what are these MEPs campaigning for? and where was their manifesto?
Please do wake up. All this power has been voted to a body with about as much accountability as the Freemasons.
No you couldn’t say the same thing about Maragaret Thatcher, and you know why don’t you. Thatcher was democratically elected by the people, you know, by people being allowed a VOTE.
Democratic? EU? In one sentence too… now theres a thing.
Accounts all in order are they? Nope, still not signed off 8 years late due to corruption.
Very good, carry on.
very very well done indeed fabian solutions.
there were many contenders from all across the political spectrum for this year’s accolade but in the end you have made my choice easy for me. your imbecilic comment “The EU is democratic” has convinced me that you deserve to be awarded the “Spastic of the Year” Award.
well done spastic! outstanding!
if you could please post the name of the ward you are currently being detained on I will send your certificate and gold star forthwith.
once again, well done you spastic. good for you!
Fabian Solutions? Don’t make me laugh. That’s why we’re in the mess we’re in! Your solutions.
Thought Tory boy would be enough why add Reactionary? and for your information I am nobody’s Boy, the quote from G.K Chesterton IS about Democracy…… Stupid!
I enjoyed reading your quotation, surprised to read it’s by G.K.Chesterton. Never read it before – interesting.
It is too late for speech.
Agree. I’ve been struck dumb,………. with fury.
I’m thinking more an end to Jaw Jaw…
That’s the next General Election won then !!
Just a question now of by how many seats
100+ minimum !!!
I agree – get real folks – the Reds are truly (trolly) fucked now !
Cameron’s words won’t frighten the horses – it’s all going to plan – the grid is working fine – slowly slowly catchee monkee!
Keep on keeping on !
Keep right on
The Tory Victory is now assured!
Congratulations Mr Cameron
The NuLibor lot will be lucky to poll 20%
I agree – it would be great to have a referendum but we are dealing with the art of the possible – not the unreal world that Brown et al inhabit!
Exactly what is the point of having a Tory victory when Parliament has all the power of Swindon Borough council?
You can’t see the wood for the trees can you? Twat.
Dont TWAT ME – TWAT !!
Look out for that Horse!
Man’s horse broke his halter and ran off once. Man running after him, sees Jan Stone, sitting dangling his legs over the Quay wall.
Man: ‘Jan, Jan: did you see which way my ‘orse went?’
Jan: ‘Never seed un till after ee was out of my sight.’
An’ that’s a true story, I tell ee!
Ay, the horses trample,
The harness jingles now;
No change though you lie under
The land you used to plough, AE Housman. A Shropshire Lad.
cast Iron Dave
I hope you get a hung parliament with Gordo Mcmental as PM & Clegg as Foreign Secretary whilst you get stuck with Northern Ireland – even that is too good for you.
You have proven you are as unfit to lead the country as this mad jock is.
Silly Boy !!!
I was staggered that the Beeboid girl in the press conference asked Dave “how can people trust you in the future if you don’t keep your promises”
I DON’T REMEMBER GORDON BROWN BEING ASKED THE SAME QUESTION WHEN HE SIGNED THE LISBON TREATY (AND OUR SOVEREIGNTY AWAY) BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AFTER REFUSING A PROMISED REFERENDUM.
The MSM don’t attack Millibrain for lying over Polish anti-semites, but attack Dave for not delivering something New Labour have made impossible.
No wonder we all prefer blogs.
The sand is running out on the reactionary, neo-imperialist Right-wing dinosaurs like yourself.
Gordon Brown did the right thing by signing us up to the Treaty. He is our elected PM and acting was within his power as our Premier.
FUCK OFF HOON !!
I take it you are due for a job out of this so its obviously within your best interests to support it.
The only people who elected Brown were a few thousand Scotch council house dwellers.
“neo-imperialist Right-wing dinosaurs ”
Good grief, Fabian, haven’t heard that chant since my student days. How did your Stalinist/Maoist revolution work out, by the way?
As Tony Blair said in 1999, the forces of conservatism are now dead and buried.
Britain is becoming more progressive and, going forward, a permanent centre-left/socialist majority now exists in the EU.
Get used to it. History is on our side.
Eh? Have you been following the last few election results in Italy? France? Germany?
Tony Blair was in Space 1999? Fuckin’ hell, is there nothing he won’t do for a roll of tenners?
Fabian you New Labour apologist chump.
Tony and Gordon have consistently sought to destroy this country. Westminster is now a suburb of Brussels, New Labour take more of our money than any other government in history, unemployment and public debt is at record levels and trust in poloiticians is at an all time low.
Don’t accuse me of being a conservative, I don’t particularly support them either, but they have to be better than the current (don’t make me laugh) government of all the talents.
Under the Tories unemployment was 3 million.
Crime is down, we have more police, teachers, nurses and doctors than ever before.
Bullshit, the majority of the population no longer call the police because like your favourite phrase “they do nothing”
Unemployment is well over 3million even the public know your lying as “massaged” figures are released plus what was the cause of the 3million unemployed ?! Oh yes another defunct Labour government from the 70`s
Your party is finished so I suggest that you may want to become a “European Cohesion Advisor” as your quango is in the cross hairs and the people are pissed over this. Pick a lamp post any lamp post.
PROGRESSIVE POLITICS TALKS GOOD SENSE
BUT HE IS LEAVING OUT ALL THE BEST PARTS ABOUT LABOUR
YEAH YEAH CRIME DOWN BLAH BLAH BLAH
BORING! GET THIS: WE DO TORTURE SHHH!
EVER TORTURED A MAN? THEN YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED!
WE WILL TORTURE MORE AFGHANS THAN THE TORIES
THAT IS A CAST IRON PROMISE
WE WILL BOMB MORE AFGHAN WEDDINGS THAN THE WEAK TORIES
THAT IS A BOMBPROOF PROMISE
WE WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUPY OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRIES
WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FOR FUCKS SAKE?
TORTURE OCCUPATION WAR
WE ARE GETTING ON WITH THE JOB STOP MOANING YOU COWARDS
VOTE DEATH VOTE LABOUR
OH YEAH CRIME NURSES BLAH BLAH BLAH
BUT COME ON, DEEP DOWN EVERYONE LOVES A BIT OF TORTURE INNIT THEY ARE ONLY AFGHANS AFTER ALL WHO GIVES A FUCK?
WE DO TORTURE NO FUCKING PROBLEM
WE ARE GETTING ON WITH THE JOB OF TORTURING DIRTY AFGHANS AND BOMBING THEIR WEDDINGS DO NOT GET IN OUR WAY
THE FUTURE IS WAR THE FUTURE IS LABOUR
Butr the teachers can’t teach. School-leavers are illiterate and innumerate – I know because I have tried to recruit some and they all fail the numerical aptitude test and the literary interpretation test. The police spend much more time filling forms than out on the beat where they are more likely to arrest someone defending themselves than someone who starts trouble. And by what percentage have the numbers of doctors and nurses gone up and by what percentage have the numbers of administrators, managers and bureaucrats in the health service gone up? Most are in non-jobs.
Yep, Westminster is now a suburb of Brussels, a decaying city with a Commie mayor, a fractious majority Muslim population and a rising intifada of jihadist youths using Kalashnikovs against helpless police and firemen… How long before the whole circus of corruption is forced to move permanently to Strasbourg?
good for you fabian solutions. you are a very effective communicator.
for a retard.
well done.
Is Cameo trustworthy?
Are some lamp posts cast iron?
No and Yes
New Labour = we didn’t do it, it was the Tories and now it is Brussels
Maybe we could turn some of these lamposts into armour to protect labours cannon fodder in Afghanistan.Another 5 killed.
Sorry to disappoint you MB, but the boy Dave has dealt with this very deftly.
Brown was the untrustworthy one, this is what the vast majority of the electorate will emember as they kick Labour into the wilderness in May.
The story on the Beeb’s website is not only stylistically poor (‘forced’, ‘forced’ and ‘force’ in a single para) but it omits any mention of Bliar/Broon’s mendacity.
There’s a surprise.
I think a lot of people are forgetting that Cameron does not have any power, he is not running Britain, Brown the Traitor is running Britain, want answers on Europe ask Brown, not that you would get any answers from Brown, as Brown never answers questions.
His lack of power is his one redeeming feature.
Wrong. he has the power to deliver on a promise he made. A cast iron one. Remember it? I do.
Dave clearly hasn’t done his homework if he says we are to have a vote on all EU treaties – see the list here
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/en/treaties/index.htm
The referendum on the Greenland Treaty would have attracted massive interest I’m sure.
This http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ROFLMAO must have been invented for this:
Anything to add you racis_t Islamophobe?
Pss orf you Fabian Fuckwit
Yeah she’s wasting her time these women don’t have a vote and if by chance they did it would be their husband who would vote for them! They’re also probably illiterate so would not have heard about “bath plugs” Jakwee or porno Dick her hubby.
Yes Mr Fabian, keep turning left and with a bit of luck you should end up, up your own exhaust pipe then if you ever peek out you can see what Liebor have done to this country!
????? Only thing that clip tells me is that Jaqui is made up for going on another shoplifting expedition.
……Slip sliding away, Liebor criminality at its finest!
Another Labour Traitor
David Cameron’s shameful U-turn is entirely consistent with his nature as an ex-PR man and chameleonic politician.
He worked for Norman Lamont during Black Wednesday, then reinvented himself as a liberal Conservative to win more votes.
LOL! That’s hilarious!
And Gorgon Brown U-Turned sorry lied over a manifesto pledge of which he was elected,I remeber like the majority the pics of him skulking in late as to not be photographed wiith the other EU leaders.
Courage hey, but I guess it`s alright as he`s Labour in your socialist mind.
If only he was true blue through and through as this video claims.
So cameron lied. So brow lied. so clegg lied.
Notice a recurring theme you pinko schizo communard?
Harlan Ellison. Also wrote something called ‘The Big Space Fck’. Wikipedia doesn’t mention it for some reason.
Liebore gave away the keys to the country, knowing fine well that they will never ever get back into power. So why would they be arsed?
‘We must seek agreement from the other nations to get back our employment laws’ Yeah like thats going to fucking happen.
This is like asking my neighbours what colour curtains I can have.
Lets join a group of countries that hate us but want our money.
We may have won the wars but we didnt win the long term battle. My grandfather went to war against the Nazis for fuck all.
I feel sorrow for him and his friends who fought for nothing.
I really do feel like moving my family out of the EUCCP now.
My grandfather fought at Paschendaele and Somme II to keep the Germans from running Britain. What a bloody waste of lives that was.
If there were no countries, as John Lennon sang, there would be no need for any wars.
The EU will guarantee peace and co-operation between all its constituent components.
Until it finds itself at war with the US, the USSR India or China. What do you think it needs that new EU-army for? Ceremonial parades perhaps?
Haha, I’d love to see an EU army try and take on the US or China. It’d be like Graham Norton fighting Mike Tyson.
You mean the army of 100 million EU conscripts that the EU could create with a single change to the Lisbon treaty? The army of people who will be forced to fight for Brussels?
Forget all the Bullshit from Cameron about “referendum locks”, there will be no more treaties.
Countries match up with peoples.
The best way to civil war is to forcibly mix the interests of two separate peoples in one “country”.
Europe will descend into Afghan style tribal-fighting.
Democracy comes from the word “demos” i.e. single people, without a demos there can be no democracy, and there is NO European people. It will end in war, and as soon as it kicks off I’m coming for people like YOU.
the europeans are cowards who ducked out of doing their duty alongside British soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, regressive politics and most european nations are stuffed full of reactionary racists and fascists which explains why you fit in so well with them, you are one of them.
but the european cowards are certainly no match for the British army, or the British people for that matter, should we choose to form a militia to resist the fascist EU.
it is the duty of an Englishman to protect the British Constitution from traitors like you PP.
here is the truth of the matter PP: with the authority of a hastily convened people’s court I would hang a traitor like you from the nearest tree.
and how the crowds would cheer with joy!
we could get a few of you traitors bundled together and make a real day of it. I can see hanging events like that really taking off.
Thick you may be a bit of a chump, but that was excellent.
you could pay off the national debt if it was on pay per view!
If there were no countries or borders, then all wars would be civil wars.
– Reverend Sven Hassleblad
and there’d be more wars.
What would it have been like if Kaiser Wilhelm won the war, and placed a distant cousin as the head of state in britain?
If we hadn’t joined in with WW1, it could have been like 1870, a war that most of us don’t even know about, certainly didnt cost Britain money or lives.
“Cast Iron” Dave – that nickname will stick!
Get used to it, Little Englanders.
The Lisbon Treaty is Law and there’s nothing all you Surrey toffs can do about it!
New Labour’s vision of transforming Britain is going forward according to plan. Britain will be at the heart of a dynamic, progressive, multicultural Europe.
You can’t stop progress!
Well at least you were brief this time.
I’ve seen some hoons on here, but this chug nut (Fabian_Solutions) is the genuine article!
Do you reserve your judgmental comments exclusively for the internet? It’s funny. I never hear your views out on the street.
I’m curious to know seeing as you hate England so much…What’s your story then?
Hear hear. Well said.
Vote Labour in 2010 – the only party committed to Britain remaining at the heart of Europe and not being isolated!
You’re a traitor to Britain!
So’s CAST IRON DAVE
“Surrey toffs” – nothing but inaccurate cliches to offer?
Reads like intellectual bankruptcy to me.
The banks were at the front of progress remember?!
That’s not strictly true Fabian! Geographically, you are of course wrong, (GB is an island on the outskirts of a continent), commercially you may have a point, but as London is being deserted by most of the institutions, you’ll find that the economic advantage will dissipate sooner rather than later. Most of it will go to larger more consistent cities in Europe, and they’ll be far from your grasp.
The culture of the Surrey Toffs will still prevail, but you will never find out exactly where their investments are being made, because your ideology is too antiquated, and mired up in gobbledegook. You just won’t find out!
This will be the future for Europe, and until you and your type of people understand this, you’ll always be continually pilloried as slightly mad, and eventually uninteresting. Why can’t you learn to study your history more thoroughly?
Sorry to tell you this, but you’ve completely got the wrong end of the stick!
Witness the force of the fully armed battle station!
You can’t stop the Labour rout next May!
That’s right Fabian. The British Health Service is up for reforms if the new Brussels Directives are applied under Lisbon QMV. Europe is not happy with the East German style command Health Service that Britain runs. It runs counter to the freedom of the Single Market. Freedom to seek treatment wherever it is best in Europe. Let patient choice decide. Private or public provision to be guaranteed by the national insurance provider, or will the UK Government erect a health ‘Berlin Wall’ against choice.
Despite all the emoting about “I will never vote Conservative again” or “it’s off to UKIP for me “Cameron has to-day basically shot UKIP’s fox(and it may be worth mentioning that a recent poll in Tory Marginals puts Europe and Lisbon 12th yes that’s right 12th in people’s list of concerns so apart from a few people here it’s not a major concern for most people or one that’s likely to persuade people to not vote for Cameron and the Conservatives and for UKIP).Europe for the majority of voters is not an issue and is not one on which the election will be won or lost. In fact Cameron’s slogan of “Never Again” is bloody clever because it links subconciously into the anti- iraq war slogan “Not in my name” and by association puts Labour clearly on the back foot as the party that betrayed Britain( like Iraq where they went to war on a lie and ignored mass protests)on top of the other charge of the Party that bankrupted Britain.
So dream on Eurosceptics and those proposing to vote UKIP. If Farage is lucky he’ll get one MP elected and just ensure that Labour holds on in constituencies where it might have lost. This is the ONLY show in town if you want re-negotiation with the EU not UKIP.
Cameron is also unlikely to get any hassle from his party apart from the usual “head bangers” even dear old Bill Cash is broadly in favour after all the prospect of power after almost 13 years in the wilderness concentrates people’s minds wonderfully I find
I see the Labour activists are out in force on this blog.
You’ll be getting this from them all the way to election day Cameron, you twat.
But Liebour are still totally, absolutely, incontrovertibly, stuffed, finished, decimated, dead, fallen off the perch, buried for generations, due before a Nuremberg Tribunal for Economic Crime and Treason.
Ok!
Maybe but the corpse is still twitching:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8343549.stm
“The government could hold a referendum on electoral reform on the same day as the next general election, Culture Secretary Ben Bradshaw has said.”
So they can hold referendums when it suits them… bring it on — it’ll remind people of the referendum we wanted and were denied and we’ll vote accordingly.
Laughing Boy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225036/Brown-grey-Portrait-Prime-Minister-feeling-strain.html
What a fucking mess.
AKA a warty faced fuckpig.
Quite right, Fabian_Solutions.
As John Lennon put it, “imagine there’s no country, it isn’t hard to do, nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too…”
Nationalism, patriotism and imperialsim are the roots of most of the world’s problems. It’s time we started working for a new world order where parochial national interests are subsumed under the overarching goal of a single world government, with all living in peace and harmony.
Shame all these Right-wing hatemongers wouldn’t like to live in such a paradise though!
I agree with you on the religion part.
No, you capitalists still worship the almighty dollar.
Go back to world of warcraft you mong
Ah such a paradise. Shame the EU has absoutely nothing to do with it though. Dystopia is one big unified place too. Welcome to the new dystopia.
You should note that some people in europe view the european union as a way of making the rest of the world do what they want. And do not distinguish between the good of themselves, and their nation, and what europe does.
Sorry to say P. Politics, but see my coment to Fabian above. You really haven’t the time or skill to ’start a new world order’. It also will never exist, except in the minds of dreamers and wasters.
Who on earth do you think you are, you’d never convince anyone by feebly spouting sixties student rubbish.
Why not get a few years experience under your belt before you try and change something you clearly don’t understand!
Assuming we all lived in Neopangea with no borders, no money and no worries, people would still be queuing up to strangle smug leftie throwbacks like you!
FABIAN SOLUTIONS IS ONE OF US
HE IS PRO WAR AND PRO OCCUPATION AND PRO TORTURE
NEW LABOUR WARRIOR!
LISTEN TO FABIAN SOLUTIONS HE TALKS SENSE
HE IS A NEW LABOUR WARRIOR HE UNDERSTANDS THAT TORTURE IS GOOD
WAR IS GOOD OCCUPATION IS GOOD
FABIAN SOLUTIONS IS GOOD
NEW LABOUR WARRIOR!
VOTE FOR WARRIORS LIKE FABIAN SOLUTIONS – VOTE LABOUR!
Remember remember the 4th of November, the Lisbon treason and plot.
And where is our so called Head of State in all this?
Head of state? Now who would that be. Certainly not Liz. She’s gone and sold her own job, daft old biddie.
Fuck off Harman_Pride
In today’s European Union, Britain is a strong voice acting for the best interests of its citizens. Our dedicated engagement in the EU means that we can continue to ensure that families and business get the best deal from our EU membership whilst at the same time tackling global issues to ensure a fairer world for all.
The current economic downturn means that our active membership of the European Union is more important than ever for Britain’s prosperity. With 27 member states, the EU is the largest single market and British-based businesses are taking full advantage of being part of it. More than half of all our trade is with the rest of Europe and millions of jobs are dependent on it.
We want to move on from institutional debate to work within a streamlined EU on the issues that really matter, such as immigration and climate change.
Key achievements
* Signed the Social Chapter and introduced measures including: four weeks’ paid holiday; a right to parental leave; extended maternity leave; a new right to request flexible working; and the same protection for part-time workers as full-time workers.
* Led the way in Europe to agree a coordinated response to the economic downturn to help families and businesses through these difficult times.
* A better deal for British families, including halving the cost of domestic phone calls and air travel in the EU, cutting the cost of mobile phone calls and texts across EU borders and proper compensation for air passengers ‘bumped’ from flights.
* Strengthened minimum environmental standards across Europe. Our rivers, beaches and water are now the cleanest they have ever been.
* Labour helped win valuable reforms to the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) to promote sustainable and environmentally friendly farming within Europe.
Labour will:
* Work with other European partners and promote economic reform to make Europe more competitive so that Britain emerges stronger through the current financial downturn.
* Continue to work with EU partners to negotiate a framework for tackling climate change post-Kyoto and develop an EU-wide strategy for energy policy.
* Press for further reform of the Common Agricultural Policy to ensure farming becomes more competitive, sustainable and innovative.
* Promote further enlargement of the EU, including support for the entry of Turkey and Croatia.
* Work with EU partners to achieve a global trade deal to cut tariffs and liberalise world trade.
LOL thanks for the belly laugh!
Biggest load of bullshit I have read in my life.
All those laws on employment could have been introduced by Labour whilst it had a huge majority in Parliament. It didn’t need the EU.
British companies don’t need the EU to trade in Europe anymore – the EU has been over-ruled by the WTO.
The CAP is costing us money because we import more food than we export so we have to pay extra thanks to EU tarriffs on food which are the only tarriffs the EU still clings onto.
Let Turkey enter the EU and we will get millions in immigration from an Islamic country. That will go down well with the Brits won’t it now?
You EUphiles really are insane. Idealists gone mad and prepared to tell any lie to support your mad dystopian dreams.
You bothered to read it?
Is Fabian a boy or girl’s name? Just curious.
Eez from a the Greek, fallopio, part of the anatomy ofaHoon
One of the London Medical Schools had a Rugby team that called themselves ‘The Old Fallopians’, I believe.
Fabian …. comes from Fabius Maximus – surnamed Cunctator (delayer), ie; delaying, avoiding battle, cautious etc., and, favouring the gradual introduction and spread of Socialism.
Its obviously a Kuntz name.
Fabian, please read your ‘key achievements’ again, and tell me how this has helped our economy!
None of these actions has contributed to the national wealth one iota, they all hinder people who risk their homes and livelihoods to pay taxes to support the weaker members of the community, like you probably, judging by the drivel you’ve just written!
Please understand, I know we need a few public servants, but I’d like them to work a lot harder, and show some results from their efforts. They are far too expensive.
Fabulous Delusions!
The UK is recognised by the World Bank as the easiest place to do business in Europe.
Harmonisation via EU regulation can only bring us down the competitive ladder. The UK will become less attractive to investors and be less able to compete internationally. Bad for workers. Bad for investors. Bad for entrepreneurs.
Taxation by the EU has historically been used to maintain artificially high prices by reducing supply. Bad for consumers (“families” are consumers too!). Bad for all tax payers.
Economic migration within the EU has increased the supply of labour while UK unemployment has risen. Those British workers that still have jobs are getting paid less for doing them.
The EU creates a net loss of income for every man woman and child in the UK of £100.
Since “Fabian_Solutions” is intent on using the word “we” throughout his posts (doubtless with the intention of taking personal credit for his claimed “achievements”), THANKS FOR NOTHIN€!
Which of the things you have listed could the UK not have achieved without EU involvement? Many would argue that many of those things would not even be problems if the UK was independent of the EU.
You really do talk nonsense Fabian Delusions.
You’ll get shot out of the water spouting nonsense like that with your track record. For Heavens sake Britain is not in the Euro nor part of Schengen. How can you claim to be more than marginal with your opt-outs. Britain, like its rather dlipated housing stock, is mostly semi-detached. Talk like yours is redolent of the propaganda talk-up in the DDR before the Socialist Wall came tumbling down in 1989 with about the same relation to reality.
Socialism really is a bust flush.
Dave’s gonna have his Militant moment facing down the headbangers!
Cast Iron Dave never fooled me for a second. Blair clone. 100% Blair clone. Nice to see everyone else has finally woken up to it before the election.
I told ‘em all at the time not to go for him, but David Davis. Waste of time tellin’ some folk – ‘There’s none so deef as them that won’t ‘ear!’
Phil Woolarse: “British Troops are dying in Helmand in order to prevent Afghan immigrants getting into the UK”
Almost as good as McGobbler’s excuse that British Soldiers are being killed so Afghan girls can go to school.
I thought Fairy McBrown was more interested in Afghan Boys!
That’s strange, I had a whole Afghan family in front of me in my GP’s today, they get signed up for free medical care……….and despite a lifetime of taxes and NI I get fobbed of with a cheap generic version of drug, which is crap, but all the NHS can afford!
Oh and I think the GPs get a bit of extra cash bonus from Liebour for taking them on, no questions asked and no contributions required!
Perhaps someone should inform the UKBA about that.
Caneron is dead right on this. The Lisbon betrayal is down to Brown and Labour. There’s nothing Cameron can do about that now other than stop further powers slipping away.
It’s down to the fucking LimpDems also.
Of course he can. He can carry out his cast iron promise and get the backing of the uk public to tell the eu to fuck themselves.
It dosnt get much easier than that.
Tell you what, heres an example: EU- Go FUCK YOURSELVES!. See?
For Fucks Sake Tories!
Kick the slimy lightweight ex PR bastard out, Cameron’s slimy style is so dated it is painful, we are in the post Blair and almost post Brown years. This type of pansy, edited nicey nicey front politics has had it’s day only the thick yanks as usual are the last ones in the world to fall for it with Saint Obama.
Go on ConHome or any other Tory website and you have them bleating about how weak Major was and how we must all rally around Dave. Fuck off, Major looks like Man of Steel Stalin compared to Hug a Hoodie, save the world Dave Bloody cheating lying expenses fiddling ex PR man Cameron.
If you Tories think the Major government was a disaster, holy lord above you are living in a different reality than the rest of us if you think Cameron will be the next Mrs T. It is a trainwreck waiting to happen.
I can see it now, kicked out after one term and the Lib Dems laughing their way to power.
You have the poll ratings just boot the fucket out and put a REAL consverative in will you.
Unless this has all been the plan from day one, that this country is so far up shit creek that you do not even want to win the election and be forced to fix the country.
I will give a couple of grand to UKIP just to wake you dozy bastards up.
Thanks very much.
Thank you Damien – close the door on your way out
The man is mad. How can we believe such a twisted tale? `Never again` is surely too late and closing the stable door after the horse has boltef is not the solution. The Czech Prime Minister says that Czech sovereignty has now ended. Cameron would be more honest if he admitted that British sovereignty has also gone, not that he would do anything to restore it. `Never Again` is an insult to the British people. What on earth is he thinking of? Has he been taking advice from Julie Kirkbride and Andrew MacKay again?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Sorry. Needed to be said.
Useless Tories.
I told you so.
Boris looks the more appealing option than bloody Cameron these days and THAT is saying something!
Benjamin Disraeli is looking a better alternative and how long has he been dead?
Well there WAS a slim chance I’d vote for him, but not now.
Only by voting UKIP will I get MY sovereignty back. I never gave it to the EU.
LAbour and the Conservatives are guilty of handling stolen goods.
Tory splits,Tory broken promises.It will be interesting to see how the next poll on the parties standing appears.Going by my fellow socialists it looks like a landslide for us.
Well they would be up shit creek without a paddle and no hope of return thanks to Gordon Mental Brown even if they did get in again.
Do you mean up shit creek without a helicopter as gordons cannon fodder are finding out
Do you mean up shit creek for the next 5 years since wavy Davy has fully signed up to the Afghan carnage ?
What can UKIP do? A minority party don’t stand a chance to wield power. Votes for UKIP could weaken the Tories and thus let Newlabour in again, by the back door.
Back Door, did someone call?
what they can do is deny seats to the tories, who would then have to respond to the concerns, in many seats in england just a thousand votes going from tory to ukip would drastically reduce the number of seats dave has. if he wanted those seats the method would be obvious, appeal to those who went to ukip. he’s so far to the left now that he can’t go any further in trying to get labour and libdem votes.
374 But my dear Contessa (Beautiful laydy: I kissa youra hand!), it’s the Market! Manufacturer wants to make a wider profit-margin, decides to add plenty of the cheapest ingredient to his product (water: think how runny your ‘Beef Extract’ your ‘Yeast Extract’ is today, compared to a few years ago.), or even to substitute main ingredient (think a recent ‘Vegetarian’ Beef Extract…). Funnily enough, despite (expensive) marketing campaign, ‘NEW IMPROVED’ product ‘bombs’: hitherto loyal customers are deserting the Brand in droves, sales are plummeting – as are profits and shares.
Customers are capable of ‘thinking the unthinkable’ and deserting their once-reliable Brand – and finding that other brands are just as good: different, but just as good – slightly cheaper, too.
If enough of us quietly ‘take our custom elsewhere’, the ‘minority parties’ will become larger, and the ‘mainstream parties’ will find they’re more like the backwater parties.
The Conservative Brand has been increasingly diluted and genetically modified for a good many years now (ask yourself, what does it actually try to conserve – apart from ‘jobs for the boys’?), so, sensible shoppers that we are, sample other products – and this UKIP looks and sounds good: let’s see if it ‘does what it says on the tin’…
Nearly sold. But how many constituencies will have UKIP candidates standing? Probably not mine.
I don’t know about this constuency, but I am torn. I really want to see Talking Horse Spheroids have his “Portillo Moment”: the look on his face when he loses his seat would be one to keep on camera for a lifetime. I am uncertain that the UKIP candidate, if there is one, would take the seat and I might well, with a very heavy heart, vote Conservative. I really hope that B&P do pretty well, because they will take their votes disproportionately from ZaNu Lie Baaaah while UKIP will take theirs disproportionately from the Tories. If I vote UKIP, then my heart will be ruling my head, but if I vote Tory, it will be because my enemy’s enemy is my friend. I feel that I’m caught between a rock and a hard place.
cast iron votes for UKIP
“We believe that our new cast iron pledge and Law on Europe is tougher than a very tough thing indeed! [gallop,gallop] This eye wateringly tough new Law is to be called “The Stable Door Law” and will ensure [gallop,gallop,gallop] that in maybe 6 or 7 years time, just in time for the next election which makes this statement even more meaningles.. er. I mean TOUGH!, well after I’ve had my Parliament to shit on the Eurosceptics, [GALLOP,GALLOP] this Law will ensure no imaginary treaty that doesn’t even exist will almost certainly be put to a referendum! That is my Tinfoil Guarantee!!
And that Ladies and Gentleman is why on Europe I can be truste…”[GALLOP,GALLOP,GALLOP +SQUUUELLCH!!!!!+]
Poor little sod, that great big fucking horse that was let out of the stable door galloping about the place ran straight into him and crushed sad Wavy Dave to death.
Oh the Humanity!
“There is a choice: it’s between equality or rampant individualism
The Tories have repeatedly been wrong on how to survive the global recession, warns Jack Straw.”
“If I had told the electors of Blackburn in 1997 that a vote for Labour would mean schools’ performance would double, a new £120m hospital would be built, crime would be cut and tens of millions of pounds would go into new and improved housing, I’d have been told to pull the other one.
But all this has happened. Just one in three pupils was getting five or more GCSEs in Blackburn in 1997 – now it’s nearly three in four. Burglaries in my area are now at their lowest level for decades. We’re the first government since the war to have delivered a sustained overall reduction in crime.”
http://ww_w.guar_dian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/27/jack-straw-global-recession
“There is a choice: it’s between equality or rampant individualism
The Tories have repeatedly been wrong on how to survive the global recession, warns Jack Straw.”
“If I had told the electors of Blackburn in 1997 that a vote for Labour would mean schools’ performance would double, a new £120m hospital would be built, crim_e would be cut and tens of millions of pounds would go into new and improved housing, I’d have been told to pull the other one.”
You use the Guardian as your source for argument?
How old are you young and naive quango buy!?
Yes, how old are you Fabian? ;)
Fabian is a parody, a wind-up. A bit obvious, but still amusing.
No one could really be that gullible in reality.
You mean he isn’t avaliable?
Is that THE Jack Straw, the Marxist and sworn enemy of Great Britain
Never mind him, look at the real enemy of Britain – David Cameron!
Yes, the one who overclaimed his council tax and other expenses and who, in an effort to explain this, practically boasted that he was rubbish at money (“accounting is not my strong suit” as he put it). What a man! what a leader!
Yep. Almost as good as Peter Hain, or maybe even Kinnockio who sacked someone who was good at accounting, but then Marta Andreassen was honest and we couldn’t have that in the EU now, could we?
………..zZZZZZ like anything written in the Guardian is taken seriously by anyone
Do you mean the famous Neathergate Straw!
Mr Fabio could you please arrange for the website that pays you, to add a category in the left hand menu of tabs, along the lines of ‘Liebor Marxists’
Just to make it easier to find the truth, you understand, one click and we can see how many more traitors like Straw and Johnson
So why does Blackburn now have a Tory council?
THERE IS A CHOICE: SHALL WE TORTURE THE ARAB OR NOT?
FUCK IT LET’S TORTURE THE ARAB!
THE TORIES WOULD NOT TORTURE THE ARAB
THEY ARE WRONG
WE ARE THE NEW LABOUR WAR PARTY
WE ARE HAPPY TO TORTURE THE ARAB IT GETS RESULTS
DON’T VOTE FOR THE PUSSY NON TORTURE TORY PARTY
VOTE FOR US WE WILL CHOP FINGERS OFF NO FUCKING MESSING
WE WILL GET THE ANSWERS WE DO ELECTRODES ON THE BALLS ALL THAT SHIT
VOTE ELECTRIFIED TESTICLES – VOTE LABOUR
THEY ARE ONLY FUCKING ARABS SO WHO GIVES A FUCK?
SO WHAT?
Fabian, you really do not understand the real world!
If you think that Jack Straw has any commercial acumen, then you really do need to check back through your notes before you start talking to people who pay your benefits.
Please, try not to be so naive, you clearly have a lot to learn!
Message for Dave: As a solidy Tory supporter and member who has never voted anything but Conservative in every single election I would simply like to say: “NEVER AGAIN”
I will not vote for them while Cameron is in leader
Cameron is deeply entrenched with his cronies, riding roughshod over the constituencies and members. I think in real terms this means that you will never ever be voting Conservative again.
Tip .for old blue.I wouldnt put your mortgage on dave not being PM next year.
cameron is an unlikely winner anyway. tories should not waste their votes on him.
May I be the first to revive that fine old English war-cry…’Bring back David Davis!!!’
new blue isn`t blue anyway, a tory vote is misplaced with cameron.
its a ZANUCON
Cams speech tonight seems have panicked some of our socialists contributers.
Stp panicking anon.Keep your nerve man.Gordon can still get a landslide.Although knowing our Gordon it will be like the one in Tenerife
“Never Again”.
Funnily enough thats the same policy i intend to pursue when it comes to voting conservative, labour or libdums.
Read this
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
then read this
http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies?p=2
then read any serious journos analysis of the state of the UK’s economy.
Draw your own conclusions but let’s keep it rationale
is this really good enough
if you agree with me that it is not
SIGN THIS
http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/referendum-on-repatriation-of-powers-from-the-eu-to-westminster/signatures.html
354 – Done!
IN OUT IN OUT SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT
FFS I almost feel like voting Labour now, maybe that’ll hasten a proper revolution.
may work by fucking everything up totally.
Though of doing so myself, just to kick shit off,
Better than voting DC.
So far its UKIP for me. But should I get nihlistic, then wow!
I think this can only help Cameron in the long run. The referendum issue has gone, the Tories can make their own policy on the EU from now on and, above all, Labour look like a pack of gleeful, ya-boo assholes who are so superdumb don’t realise that in their desperation to screw the Tories, they’ve screwed us all.
May 9th, when we finally kick the bastards out, will be a true liberation from moron Brown and the rest of the gang that sold us down the river.
Their doomsday will be our VE day.
how many times do I have to tell you: go easy on the superskunk motherfucker.
you must be superstoned dirtyden. stoned out of your mind with all your crazy tribal talk.
dave’s a lying useless c’unt. that is a fact.
wakey-wakey den.
wakey wakey you dopey c’unt.
what is wrong with these dim tory daleks. does not compute…. does not compute.
listen to top boy closely torydaleks: david cameron is a lying c’unt who has also had to repay money he falsely claimed from the tax payer.
he is a thieving lying useless c’unt. bereft of usefulness. and I say this devoid of any personal non partisan prejudice but david cameron has become politically irrelevant. oh well. we will have to get by without him. we’ll survive.
I think the tories would be best advised to get david davis in as leader. he is a far more useful fellow than david cameron. david cameron is like wet fucking lettuce for fucks sake. he’s a thieving lying wet lettuce wanker.
innit.
For all TAT’s outbursts and sometimes things he says that seem a little harsh, i cannot help but agree 100% on this particular score.
Cambodians lied to us, and liars simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth- ever.
The other fact is he’s a weakling, has no real substance to him.
He’s even developing the blair mannerisms and style, and for me thats about as attractive as grannyporn.
I want my say in a referendum on that fucking treaty issue whether its been ratified (illegally imho) or not.
Thats what was promised, thats what should be delivered.
Nothing less will do.
To all those who are planning to vote UKIP. Wake up and smell the coffee.
I am awake and there is no coffee, only the rancid smell of a dead and decaying Democracy.
What this Government have done to the British people is nothing less than criminal, a criminal act deliberate in its malice and of grave moral delinquency.
and voting UKIP will save us all? Right.
here here !
let them drink tea
To be fair, I thought Cameron actually did rather well. At least he talked about it in public, unlike Brown/Mandelson/Blair and their smoke and mirrors party political approach. He’ll need to watch out for further Brown hand-grenades on thsi one, but Brown’s attempt to use the cast-iron guarantee line will fail as he is clearly the one who has failed to deliver on his party’s promise of a referendum. Overall, and I am surprised I am saying this, I would say 2-0 to Cameron today.
Jolly Good, pip pip!
Great work little spinner!
KEEP ON MESSAGE AT ALL TIME!
NO DEVIATION FROM THE PARTY LINE
CONSERVATIVES DONT’ CARE ABOUT EUROPE ANY MORE
P1 = ARSEHOLE
Exactly… he’s been clear and open about it and explained thoroughly without any blatant mistruthes or glaring holes – most of the things people would go ‘aaah, but….’ were already answered in the speech meaning that even if he is just making it up, at least he is listening or has worked out these potential problems and that’s more than can be said for traitor brown.
Hey Guido, How many people read your blog everyday? I know in America sites like freerepublic are very good at organizing letter writing/faxing campaigns and were instrumental in stopping Bush’s plan to give citizenship to illegal immigrants from Mexico for example.
I’m sure you’re busy but perhaps with some leadership from you if we just got 1 in 4 readers to fax into conservative central office that we’ll never vote for them until they promise a referendum on lisbon or the EU as a whole it might help. Imagine 50,000 faxes totally crashing their system for a few days, might bring home some of the anger to them? If people feel that everyone else is putting the effort in then they will too. I know I would.
Hey Im on the Cameroon express, just past Bullshit Junction and heading for Europa Central… Chuff chuff, chuff….
Look out for that Horse!
its a fookin one way ticket to oblivion!
Im jumping off at Paddle Creek.
UKIP lifeboat awaits, but god knows how far it will get.
But anythings Better than give DAVE the VANKER das Vote.
What gets me is how any politician can think this is a good idea.
To give away your independance, democracy, freedom so that future generations can take on the USA & China.
Having big power blocks of nations in the past has always led to wars over who can dominate.
There is no room for three super powers.
Small is beautiful.
I try saying that when I see some of me in the Bathroom mirror!
Oh yeah?
If my gut or my bum was small, it would be much more beautiful than it is now, or so the missus tells me.
just got an email from the government in response to a brown must go petition:
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
FFS
Surely he can go now
we can’t overturn the Lisbon Treaty now, and Brown has probably done as much as he can to attempt to get Bliar and Milibland onto the euro gravy motorcade
Is he waiting for the “bounce” from the ex-speaker’s seat?
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go
response:
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
Loony turd.
The EU will end as a political union when an EU army is raised and used against someone like the Russians or Chinese or Iranians.
It is only a matter of time, All empires have the desire to expand, we’ve had to put up with the USA flexing it’s muscles outwards for sixty years now the daft lefties have inadvertently started the march to world war three with the creation of the EUSSR.
All empires expand to divert from the real issues happening at home, if an empire does not expand outwards it soon collapses inwards with civil war.
History has proven this time and time again.
It is only a matter of years now before Europe is completely destroyed via war again and less people will be willingly to save us than before.
Civil war will be the more likely outcome. Do yourself a favour and study demographics.
Cameron is of concern to us socialists.We want him out because he LOOKS like a winner.The Tories want Gordon to stay put because he LOOKS like a loser
Could you POLE dance for us?
Theres more than one of you?
No thanks i dont want to see harman in a thong.
Off Topic.
Auntie Beeb just announced a new website, democracy live…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi
Somewhere to go when noone’s here and 24 hour news is repeating new tractor figures and tardy celeb bull. (although it is the beeb, don’t expect 100% ballance)
Response to that petition:
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
What a slap in the bollocks.
Oh happy day. What an operator I am! Cameron gets the blame for the referendum that never was, we’re nicely locked in to the EUSSR superstate at even greater financial cost than before, and I’ve just done a super ‘up yours’ emailshot to all the thousands of ****s who want me to resign. Nokia shares down today! Oh joy, joy joy.
What did you expect?
Aha, Windows mail in all it’s wisdom sent my no 10 email straight to junkmail.
Nice one Vista, that’s the first thing you’ve got right in three painfull years.
Downplay the fact that the Afghan Police who shot 5 British troops was just a malcontent who had an argument with his Commanding Officer at all costs
Play up and hint at vague undefinied Taliban connections depite the fact that he was in the Police for 3 years
We need 5 more years in the Valley of Death!
There’s is not to reason why, there’s is to swallow the spin and die
just a malcontent?
I have an argument with my boss does it mean i go and shoot the first 5 people i can find outside the office?
just a malcontent your fooking arse.
“The soldiers had been living with the Afghan National Police while mentoring them at the checkpoint. Lt Col David Wakefield, spokesman for Task Force Helmand, said that the “rogue” individual who carried out the attack was from the Afghan security forces. It is reported that the killer has since escaped.”
So the British Army are calling him a “rogue” and that’s so very different from a “malcontent” is it you shit-eating little propaganda twat ?
He shot his Afghan Commander FIRST the same Afghan Commander he was reported as having arguments with
‘Rogue’ policeman
“While we are assembling evidence, the Taliban have claimed responsibility for this incident,” Mr Brown told MPs in the Commons on Wednesday.
“It may be that the Taliban have used an Afghan police member or they have infiltrated the Afghan police force and that is what we’ve got to look at,” he said.
However, BBC Kabul correspondent Ian Pannell later said the Taliban had not admitted carrying out the attack.
It appears he could have been involved in a dispute with his commander”
Believe and Parrot Browns war spin all you wish.
This is a disaster whichever way you want to look at it. Either the Afghan Police is infiltrated with the Taliban and cannot be trusted by a single British serviceman not to shoot them when they are unaware or they are hiring unfit Militia gangsters who can’t be trusted either.
Captain Doug Beattie who has vast experience in Afghanistan and with the tropps tells us the Afghan Police is riddled with drug taking. Getting the picture yet little spad ?
Troops Out Now.
DC is a fucking wanker and a lier.
On another matter look at this photo of Gordon Brown
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225036/Brown-grey-Portrait-Prime-Minister-feeling-strain.html
fuck me he looks like an old leather bag
….He’s not of this world.
Hopefully this is his DEATH mask.
no – it is his sex face when he is doing it with sarah
Oh you utterly dirty minded fucker!
How could you?
No forewarning of the horrible image about to grace my imploding monitor?
****newsflash*** Being sick.
They mislaid the jump leads.
Poor old Guido’s favourite Tories, Hannan and Carswell are still barking fiercely at the moon for a Referendum that Cameron isn’t going to give them
What will Guido do?!?!?!?
Follow the Party Line or stick with his chums ???
Decisions, decisions.
Guido will go along with his new found Conservative chums.
Hey the Irish voted for the Lisbon Treaty second time around anyhow. Guido is Irish apparently ?
The EU chucked money at them – our money – so that they could get the “right” result. But the EU never had to do that to us. So keen is Nulabour to get everything signed and sealed that they even gave back our rebate….what next….british farmers to grow weeds to give french farmers more of a chance to sell their goods, UK fishing fleets to be grounded to allow more spanish trawlers to catch fish for their tapas bars. Ooops, I forgot, that already happened ages ago.
Memo to: David Cameron
Subject: Crook
Details;
Hi David
Well you did it. You lying git.
I hope you don’t become the next UK PM. We doing want yet another lying git in power thanks very much.
B&P is looking far more likely to get my vote and that of millions of other pissed off UK people!
Laws can be changed or repealed. Nothing is forever.
If it bleeds we can kill it.
O/T but hot off the presses – Downing St website has just sent a reply to my signing of the ‘PM must resign’ petition:-
Wednesday 4 November 2009
please-go – epetition response
We received a petition asking:
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.”
Details of Petition:
“There are many reasons why we might want Brown to resign, but rather than having lots of narrow petitions on this topic (most of which have been rejected), I wanted one for all of us.”
• Read the petition
• Petitions homepage
Read the Government’s response
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
No mention of incompetence or mendacity, either of which would disqualify him from tackling effectively the tasks he describes.
Smug, deceitful git. Keep at him, Guido. You speak for the country (well, 75% of it, anyway!).
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
should read
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all the hundreds of thousands of immigrants.
No, should read
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the Labour party’s share of the vote, keeping Labour troughers in work and eroding standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all the hundreds of thousands of immigrants, so that they will vote for him and keep him in power.
Fear everywhere:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-roland-emmerich-fatwa.html
We have an answer from the worst PM (unelected to boot) re the Downing St petition for him to fuck off;
Brown;
“Read the Government’s response
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
So apart from the inevitable double “S” in focused,we now that this evil man is hell bent on the total meltdown of our country – can someone please take him out of play?
Sorry – misspelled “know” – just had an op on my hand today and so typing with one hand.
focus
• verb (focused, focusing or focussed, focussing)
- from the online OED.
Sir William, thank you: I have consistently worked to the rough rule that if you double a consonant that follows a vowel, it can serve to shew that that vowel is a ’short’ vowel; we are used to pronouncing ‘used’ as we do, so reading ‘focused’ we might be tempted to make it rhyme with ‘used’, rather than with ‘cussed’. It’s a fairly blunt instrument, a bit of a ‘Brumagem screwdriver’, but useful nevertheless.
I think you and I are reasonably unbiassed, don’t you?
Only 72,000 people signed it out of what? 65 million?
Says it all doesn’t it?
WE ARE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED
You cant blame the nauseous, fetid and disgusting scot for this fiasco. The blame lies fairly and squarely with b,liar and most probably the ” prince of darkness ” mandelson. Now we are faced with the proposition of another 5 years madness under the rule of the already discredited ” super toff ” cameron and his pro eu puppets and billionaire sponsors…………..why oh why cant people see what these fuckers are doing to our nation. A nationalist government is the only way we will escape this marxist lunacy.
We can hold a Referendum on whether England should become independent of the other elements of the United Kingdom and have out own Parliame
DREAM ON, KNUCKLEHEAD!
Have any of my socialist brothers and sisters read the quote of the day?Its enough to make me proud to live in Browns Britian
***>>Cameron needs to decide NOW: Interesting post, worth looking at!!!
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/eu-decision-time/
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.”
Read the Government’s response
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
Ha fuckin Ha……………….
If he really was focussed on these things, then he would resign because he is absolutely no good at it.
Couldn’t be bothered – have heard it all before many, many times. It’s a load of rubbish.
Everyone needs to CALM DOWN!
There’ll be no whitewash as the Conservative Shite House.
Especially if your one of Browns soldiers training Afghan policeman.Hes never too busy to call Simon Cowell.How many bereaved army families has he called.?
Vote UKIP, Get Brown for another 5 years
Whats the difference under Cast Iron DAVE?
NONE!
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The only wasted vote is one for the Lib/Lab/Con.
Vote Cameron Get Bliar
Cameroon = Blair 2.0
Some Muslim bloke verbally abused me for wearing an England rugby shirt today! The nerve of these fuckers! Took issue with the matchbox-sized Cross of St. George it has on one sleeve, he said. Funny, I had no idea we were now an Islamic country. I must destroy it so as not to offend any more Muslims. What a fucking shithole Britain has become under these cnuts of both red and blue stripes. I’m a fucking stranger in my own country in 2009.
Get used to it Sonny….
Turkeys soon up…
Yes, we all followed Mr. Cameron’s speech closely. We were very pleased he went out of his way to say he would welcome our country and people freely into the European “community”. We will add further enrichment to your vibrant culture. Be seeing you soon.
If he was in America, he would of been shot, stone cold dead on the spot, no wonder all you tea drinkers are rushing to our shores.
ha ha ha dumb Euros.
Vote Labour.
Yep. I’m buying a company in the States just so that I can get away from this bunch of corrupt gutless greedy bastards.
You should have told him – politely – that as it’s the flag of your country, and you’re proud of your country, you are perfectly entitled to display it. If it offends him, that’s his problem; but if England is his country too, he’d better get used to it. It’s his flag, too, whether he likes it or not.
Memo to Gordon. Get those offensive crosses off the British flags.
587 – There you are: done! A nice White flag…. Hang on, hang on, I didn’t mean White as in ‘white’, I… I’ll try again.
There you are: a nice Beige Flag – the colour of the Universe!
It’s turquoise actually. Cambridge blue.
Noooooo he should have turned round and put his fist into the gobshites piehole.
Then given him a lecture on fucking off out if he dosent like it here.
Tell him to fuck off back to shitholistan. The land of his raping, murdering, mentally-ill, paedophile thief of a prophet.
Q. Went the Day Well ?
A. I thought it went okay….
Did you see Brown’s face when he tried to launch into an attack on Tories health policy and Bercow stopped him – FANTASTIC – I don’t mind going without sex for 2 days just to have seen the repulsive fraudster Brown stopped in mid sentence – priceless!
It was so good that McShit Brown had to refer to the Speaker’s comment later on saying that he didn’t agree with it !!
Quite a suprise; Bercow was acting like a Speaker, Brown was non-plussed and subsequently only referred to “Other people” rather than “The party opposite”.
Straw just grinned inanely…
To Shocked of Sheen.
Whats wrong with Strawman(peasants revolt)grinning inanely when the arsehole creeper is INANE.
Yes, that bit was great! Also when Blanket got ignored.
Good old Maggie. No fudge there. How true at 3 mins.
Thatcher was a big a sell-out as the rest of them. The old witch had 11 years in which to pull us out of Europe. All she did was make empty speeches to placate the eurosceptics.
Brown commissioned an expensive portrait of her recently, just so he can gaze fondly at her as he carries on in the long-standing tradition of betraying the country to a pack of grubby foreigners.
jeez, the politicians we have today pale in comparison to this lot. Pity that quisling shit Cameron didn’t pay attention to what they had to say.
The problem now is I cannot believe any politician, there is always the possibility that she was an even bigger kidder than Blair.
But I dont think she would have been kicked out if she were part of the master plan.
That is so weird, thanks for the History. How many of us here remember the tories sitting on the other side of the house? I know I don’t.
Tony Benn was very good in opposition, Madge agreed with him then gave his party a kicking. Proper politics from proper politicians.
Massive shame that Zanu didn’t incorporate a Tony Benn or two into their laclustre 13 years of power, things could have been very different. (His son doesn’t count).
Oh yeah, Has Mr/Lord Benn a time machine? That video has to be about thirty years old, He looks exactly the bl**dy same. I think we should be told.
All your base are belong to us
Aaah…. four years, 10 months of my second EU presidency left. I enjoyed my recent re-election, especially as I was the only candidate. For some reason I thought of Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, Hu Jintao and Hamid Karzai. I don’t know why. Do I look sexy in this toupée?
How could he forget his favourite? Mao.
So, Cammo, that pair we thought you might have grown has shrivelled up into a couple of microscopic gnat’s nuts.
You effectively start your election campaign having to defend a broken promise.
Can we now trust you?
Well, at least you’ve proved you really are the heir to Blair.
Yup, he really earned that sobriquet today
Ken Clarke fully approved of Cameron’s speech…
What more do we need to know?
Cameron certainly has other important problems to sort out, but this is a fudged attempt to kick our EU relationship into the long grass.
There is absolutely no reason we couldn’t have been given a referendum on the sort or relationship we want with the EU.
In my constituency Conservative could just about beat Lab, but they’ll need every single vote to do so. However, my vote will be going to UKIP unless the situation changes.
I expect he wrote it
Ken will be friggin himself sensless tonight, overjoyed that at last the EU superstate is in place, his hero Ted Health’s wet dream has come true. And Cammo emerges as a lilly livered lightweight who will be no more than a token PM, governed by unelected brussels pen pushers. Cammo said today that if elected his party will not allow any more power to be devolved to Brussels. Er, Dave, it’s already been done. Door, stable, bolted, etc.
He’ll be wearing his favourite ‘brothel creepers’ tonight.
Just wait til the 24th at midnight, im gonna haunt his arse off!
Got me chains and everyfink.
whatever it takes just get the lying bastards out.
spot on – me hearty – spot on !!
Stick with it !!
Labour on 25% and going DOWN DOWN DOWN !!
If he wants a referendum,then why not demand one;
“To withdraw all UK troops by December 21st 2009″
I have not seen here before such a huge outpouring of hysterical rants….
…even though they are mostly from one or two people posting under multiple guises.
I’ll give you a clue,boys…try to change your vocabulary a bit..if you can.That might make it more difficult to spot alternate personas.
we are paid to do it, you are not…….. so who has the last laugh.
I don’t need the money.
oh
Go back to sleep.
Superb work little spinner!
KEEP ON MESSAGE AT ALL TIME!
NO DEVIATION FROM THE PARTY LINE
CONSERVATIVES DON’T CARE ABOUT EUROPE ANY MORE
THIS IS ALL A LABOUR PLOT
I just thought you would like to know that ‘Fabian Solutions’ is an anagram of ‘Labia Snot Fusion’ and ‘Anal Fission Bout’. So there.
Good work Sir William
If “Anal Fission” is anything like “Nuclear Fission”, it results in splits.
Nasty.
Cue old Cartoon:
Two blokes walking past a News-stand where the Headline reads: NUCLEAR PILES IN OPERATION.
Caption: ‘I bet they’re painful, Bert.’
Probably no worse than Mangledbum.
The good news is that Fabians.org do not seem to pay their spammers beyond normal working hours…..ah an evening of bliss.
And ‘Cast Iron Dave’ is ‘Cad varies not.’
Did you know that Fabians are cunctators?
Figures….
Labia snot fusion? I can’t see McTwattee a-snufflin’ round anybody’s Mary somehow. Though unlikely, it would result in the poor victim having to wheel a barrow round with a protesting, attached by the proboscis McMucus in it – like that photo of the unfortunate bloke with the enormous bollocks. The GP would say, “I’m sorry Ms Smithers, it’s not genital warts as we thought. I’m afraid you’ve got fuck-up of the flaps.”
A dreadful business.
O/T – What do you think of the new Guinness ad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/04/guinness-world-tv-ad
All commercial advertising is corrupt mendacious crap.
Good work again Sir William
pretentious bollocks
There seem to be a lot of knee-jerk reactions and unconsidered spleen-venting going on this evening. Perhaps it might be better to calm down and look carefully at what is possible – politics is, after all, the art of the possible.
Cameron’s proposals seem, on first impressions, proportionate and sensible. One of the immediate results of his speech will be a signal going to the EU movers and shakers that the UK, after the next election, will be much more difficult to push around. Given our significant contribution to EU funds, that will carry weight.
I hope that Cameron’s proposals have been considered behind the scenes for some time, and will be outside any legal challenge or penalty that the EU might impose under it’s new Lisbon powers. If Cameron is making policy on the hoof, he is very foolish; given that the likely course of events in Czechoslovakia has been fairly predictable for some time, it seems unlikely that he is making policy on the hoof.
Lisbon ratification is a retrograde step for the UK, but our position is perhaps not as weak as some believe. All is not yet lost, but the battle will be longer and more involved than if Lisbon had been scuppered. The fact that we signed up to it is Labour’s fault, not the Conservatives – and remember, we had a Europe Minister in Flint who admitted having not even read the treaty.
UKIP may do quite well out of this, but among all the political issues, polling suggests that EU membership is fairly low on most voters’ list. As things stand at the moment, it is most likely that a Conservative government will be elected next time, so it’s them that will have to deal with this mess. Their first reactions to it will worry the EU power-base, and that’s in our favour.
I believe it is possible, nay desirable to remove Cameron as the Tory leader.
the euro fightback starts with Boris
Engineer is spot on .
Sounds sensible.
Engineer. The voice of reason, thank you.
The voice of Tory HQ more like
No. I’m not a member of any political party, and never have been.
Cameron promised a referendum and he lied, how can we trust him now?
He can blame the newlabour traitors all he wants but we now know Cameron to be a liar.
He would say that he would offer a referendum on further loss of national sovereignty because its all gone now, there is nothing left, we are a vassal subject state now, when the foreign rulers want more power the self amending treaty gives it to them without so much as a by your leave.
Its easy for Cameron to make promises he knows he doesnt have to honour and why the fuck should we trust a known liar?
Any tory not walking away from Camerons charade now is just another eurotrash traitor.
This isnt about petty politics anymore, silly useless games played out for the benefit of the proles, this is about our nation our homeland where our ancestors fought and died to keep us free and the traitors in Westminster have given away the very thing they have no right to give away, our freedom!
The treaty is illegal, the treaty is null and void because we have had no say on the matter, the political classes have no right to sell us into foreign rule unless we say so, its as simple as that.
All politicians are ‘liars’ to some extent – so are all people. It’s a simple fact of human interaction. In the case of the Lisbon Constitut….oops, sorry, Treaty, who is the greater liar; Cameron, who can say what he likes but cannot implement his ideas as he isn’t in power, or Brown, who disregarded the explicit promise in the 2005 Labour manifesto?
We’re all hacked off about the rat-ification of Lisbon, but how likely is it that UKIP are going to be elected? And even if they were, how would they address all the country’s other problems?
The Tories know full well that if they start to make significantly Europhile noises, they are dead as dodos. They also know the depth of public disquiet about the EU, and they want more than one term when they get in.
What’s the sensible, pragmatic, realistic approach? Both for them, and ultimately, for the rest of us?
He said he would have a referendum IF the treaty HADN’T been ratified when he (if he) came in to power.The Newlabour bastards made sure they got the treaty pushed through before they were chucked out of office. A stitch up.
Even stupider, we all saw them gloating over their cheap trick on the people of the UK and Cameron this afternoon in PMQs. I will never forget nor forgive this Labour.
Not initially he didnt!
There was absolutely no mention of a precondition, just a guarantee to honour a promise.
Well i have a promise for dave and the rest of the main trougher parties:
“Never Again!”.
Engineer’s correct.
The problem with bashing Cameron over this is He promised something He could only deliver IF He became PM. He hasn’t, Brown’s clung on to power, Brown and Bliar caused this. Brown is a liar, Bliar is a liar, Cameron, at worst, is a spinner.
We have several major problems come the next election…
1) The Economy
2) Dissent over Europe
3) Total breakdown of trust with politicians
4) Dire missmanagement of Law and State.
ZANU CAUSED ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!
Crikey on a bikey, I’m not even a tory but I trust Dave and the gang a truckload more than I do Zanu.
All of this attacking of Camerons character isn’t going to help get rid of the monsters that caused all of our problems in the first place.
Cut Dave some slack, this was out of His control.
some sensible reason at last!
To Engineer.
Many good points you make there sir.
For me the No1priority is to get rid of this Nulab traitorous scum.
EUSSR is back burner stuff.
Quite so, don’t let newlab side line things. That’s what they want. A good controversy to boil up within the Tory party.
engineer: the most likely outcome of the next general election is a hung parliament.
you are telling porkie pies again you tory troll.
you have been caught out telling lies before and I thought you had learned your lesson but obviously not.
once a liar always a liar, eh?
you are worse than pinnochio.
I’m not a tory said engineer. lying fucking c’unt. tory propagandist more like, you bloody liar.
hold on….lying c’unt…hmmm…surely not! dave cameron, is that you? If so I claim the Sovereignty of my country back you lying two faced useless fucking c’unt.
you’re a wanker engineer. take your propaganda elsewhere you cretin.
conservativefoam is much more your type of place.
go there now.
There you go again TAT… you only pop up when someone spotlights Labour’s strategy (which is sideline as many Tory votes to UKIP) so Labour slithers back into power with the LibDems. It’s not going to work.
YOU DO NOT STEP IN WHEN TOP BOY IS GOING ABOUT HIS BUSINESS YOU STUPID FUCKING SLAG!
susie, if you want to play any game then first you must know the rules.
rule number 1)keep your fucking mouth shut until you have learned the rules you gobby fucking wanker.
rule number2)you don not step in when top boy is going about his business you ignorant and rude cow.
rule number 3)please refer to previous two rules.
there, I am glad we sorted that out susie, now you are less stupid than you were when you began reading my post.
‘mazing innit.
Down tat gimp!
Go to the naughty corner or you’ll get no dog crap to assuage your coprophilia habit tonight.
you are such a pathetic twat its unreal!
My response to GB resigning went straight to my junk folder causing my computer to send me a message about an e mail ‘phishing’. what is all that about? have we all now had it for having a go at that pratt or did it just go to junk because it was a pile of crap?
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy {HE FUCKED UP}, getting people back to work{THAT WERE MADE REDUNDANT DUE TO HIS INCOMPETENCE / OR ARE / OR WILL BE ON STRIKE} and improving standards in public services{ BECASUE LET’S FACE IT – WHEN THEY’RE THIS CRAP THE ONLY WAY IS UP}. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.{AFTER 12 LONG YEARS IT WOULD BE NICE IF LABOUR COULD MAKE A START}
Dave Cameron you’re like a lady’s tiddle thing.You’ve just lost thousands of votes because the average English person wants out of the EU. Can’t you understand this. You don’t give us a vote because we all want out. Is this democracy Dave? Well is it? Dave? Dave? Is it?
Fuck CID. Vote UKIP.
That’s it vote for me instead, I’m the clever Hoon who actually signed the Constitution….sorry, Treaty.
What does the plonker men by ” Never again ” as a slogan ?
Of course we will have never again , the dastardly deed is done .
I will never again vote for the Tories UKIP here I am .
PS I was once upon a time a Conservative councillor !
“Never again” is totally meaningless and is the sort of spin bullshittery we might have expected from Snotty.
There never will need to be a “never again” because the EU superstate is now a done deed. Dave knows this, but he’s patronising voters because he thinks that we don’t.
Actually, it’s very far indeed from a done deed, but Cast Iron Dave is just another sell-out Traitor and wants you to believe it is – just like his mate old Jocko!
Has anyone read what that utter piece of shit Woolas has said -that the war in afghanistan is helping keep immigration into the UK at a lower level.
Woolas – 5 minutes with you and my bare hands will be your last 5 minutes you utter bastard
that piece of political wizadry from him must have come as a great support to the bereaved famalies.
does anyone know if we can send christmas hampers out there and would they be interested?
I’ll hold your coat.
Unless of course you hijack a plane in which case its, “Welcome to Blighty, here’s the key to your house and the benefit cheque’s in the post!”
When the traitor’s treaty is implemented does that mean Mandy has no further use for Brown?
CAN I TELL YOU ALL THE SURPRISE?
ROAD PRICING ACROSS ALL EU MEMBER STATES
EVERY MILE WILL COST YOU LOL.
Hooray! Petrol Taxes will fall…
I’ll fill up the bacon-copter and go on holiday.
Wednesday 4 November 2009
please-go – epetition response
We received a petition asking:
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.”
Details of Petition:
“There are many reasons why we might want Brown to resign, but rather than having lots of narrow petitions on this topic (most of which have been rejected), I wanted one for all of us.”
• Read the petition
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Read the Government’s response
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
Is that a NO! then? :D
What I’d really like is for cameron to promise us a referendum on whether to bring our troops out of Afghanstan. I suspect it would be even more overwhelmingly in favour of getting out, than a referendum to come out of europe.
The question put to gordon today at PMQ’s says it all in respect of his repeated assertion that the need for us to be there is to train afghans,
“Does the PM have confidence that Afghans will be prepared to slaughter brother Afghans in support of a foreign power and a corrupt president who has just rigged his re-election?”
Nell, we couldn’t trust no-balls dave on his referendum promise, I don’t think we can trust him on anything else. Once apon a time at eton they used to teach that when a man gives his word etc…..
Dictum Meum Pactum.
That bond is far too easily broken!
I think the more imprtant point is – Can we trust gordon? He and bliar promised us a referendum (WHEN THEY WERE IN POWER and hence could have given it) They Didn’t!!!
Gordon signed away the Lisbon Treaty in the most ‘hole in the corner manner’.
He did not appear in a blaze of publicit. He snuck into europe to sign the treaty in the hope that there would no press there to record his ‘crime’.
If labour are so proud of this treaty why didn’t he, and why aren’t they, making a Great Press Thing of it??
Here he is caught in the very act.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2712808/Britain-betrayed-as-hated-EU-Treaty-is-finally-made-law.html
THe Afghans don’t need any training,they’ve been killing for the slightest reason for millenia
- heard it all before – get stuffed wnaker!
Logically, cameron is right; emotionally he is wrong, and it is emotions that will decide the next election not logic.
I won’t be voting conservative, the reason being that we have to send as strong a message as possible to Europe that we have been forced into a union against our will, and that is totally unacceptable.
It is my undestanding that the Lisbon treaty allows Europe to do what it wants with no further treaties being necessary.
The lock that Cameron is promising needs to incorporate a clause that will automatically and irrevocably trigger a referendum if Europe tries to take more powers for itself using the self amending powers within the Lisbon treaty.
I understand why Cameron has acted as he has, but he has got it wrong. There has been too much betrayal of this country by its politicians and for the sake of law and order people have to be allowed their say.
For my part, the two questions in the referendum would be;
a)
I put my cards on the table and say without fear or favour that I disagree with a) in the strongest possible terms
I hope that is clear
thank you
Half the comment has disappeared and I can’t be bothered to put it back.
He referred to these powers as “ratcheting” powers. These will be dealt with by a Cameron Government by putting them before Parliament, in exactly the same way that the Lisbon Treaty was.
Hence Cameron’s promise is very nice sounding empty rhetoric.
Here’s how it could work as a highly hypothetical scenario:
The EU (via the European Commission) decides to create an all conscription Army of 100 million Europeans.
This will be made up of the Armies of the member regions and other conscripts and these troops will have to pledge allegiance to the EU.
Lisbon does NOT cover military matters, but a single change to the treaty would change that.
The Lisbon Treaty will be amended by the Council of ministers as one of these “ratchet” measures.
Parliament is whipped into voting this through without a referendum and it becomes law.
You get dragged off to some foreign hell-hole to fight people you have no quarrel with on behalf of the Global Banking elite who are pulling the EU’s strings.
Voting Conservative cannot prevent this scenario.
Only voting UKIP or B&P can.
Furthermore, I do not trust Cameron when he talks of the constitutional court and the Sovereignty act. CLASSIC Orwellian doublethink.
Setting up a constitutional court for the sole purpose of legitimising the hand-over of British Sovereignty to a foreign power is a deeply cynical stunt!
NONE of the constitutional courts across the EU prevented Lisbon, despite the fact that the Lisbon treaty was an open door to the removal of sovereignty.
The ONLY way to guarantee the protection and defence of British sovereignty is to vote for a pro British/UK party and UKIP gets my vote.
how can voting UKIP or BNP prevent this??? are you seriously suggesting that either of those parties will get anywhere near enough votes to be in power??? yeah right!
Nuthn’s ma fult ye un’stn
Ah sav’d tha wuld
An’ ah’m gonna save ma ain skin too.
Ah writ a buk on courage once.
Yay we have won against you Tories.
HAHAHA
Are you sure that naming him “Gordon Fucktard” is giving him the best start in life?
How can you have won against a party that are on EXACTLY the same side as you???
What you are BOTH doing is trying to defeat the British people.
That is why I, and millions of others like me, shall be voting UKIP!
Logically, Cameron is right; emotionally he is wrong, and it is emotions that will decide the next election, not logic.
I won’t be voting conservative, the reason being that we have to send as strong a message as possible to Europe that we have been forced into a union against our will, and that is totally unacceptable.
It is my understanding that the Lisbon treaty allows Europe to do what it wants in the way of taking further powers with no further treaties being necessary.
The lock that Cameron is promising needs to incorporate a clause that will automatically and irrevocably trigger a referendum if Europe tries to take more powers for itself using the self amending clauses within the Lisbon treaty.
I understand why Cameron has acted as he has, but he has got it wrong. There has been too much betrayal of this country by its politicians, and for the sake of law and order people have to be allowed to have their say.
For my part, the two questions in the referendum would be;
a) We support the Labour Government in signing our rights aaway without a referendum as they promised.
b) We totally condemn the Labour Government for signing the Lisbon treaty without a referendum as they promised, and we mandate Parliament to undo what was done without our consent.
We need to reinforce our request for re-negotiation with a referendum verdict as was stated by David Davis.
You’re right about emotion and logic. DC needs to turn himself in to a hero, and come out fighting, where’s your cajones man?!
Because he’d be telling the EU Commissioners, 6 months in advance, just how he’s going to stick their
Constitutionright back up their arses and giving them time to get their defences in the right place.He’s playing on their fear of the unknown. This way they don’t know which area of EU policy he’s going to attack first… going nuclear i.e. we’ll pull out of Europe — will hurt us more than them at this junctia. No. We wait until they’re in the soup, like Russia cutting off their gas for instance, and then go for the jugular.
There was some Euro journo at the press conference who sounded fairly panicky “are you going to do a volte face”. Yep you got it sunshine.
Yeah let him waffle for the next 6 months, I and millions of others will be voting UKIP!
Tell me lies Cameron and you have lost my vote.
FUCK YOU Hoon
Ere Dave now we ave fooled the plebs we can go make LOADSAMONEY from this jolly good EU wheeze old boy.
Cammo has a new name. He’s not CMD – Call Me Dave – any more he’s NBD – No Balls Dave.
Hmmm..CMC in my book (clue: it’s not ‘Cameron’).
BROWN TO RESIGN
(Sorry about the tease there!)
Just got a response from No10 on the ‘Brown to resign’ petition of which only a measley 72,234 signed!
Just amused me that the actual wording of the petition actually said …
‘We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.’
However, in the official No10 response they’ve chosen to sum it up in a much more ‘tabloid-friendly’ and succinct way by calling it the
‘please-go – epetition response’
Well said, I couldn’t agree more!!
… D’oh!! Another own-goal from the Zanu Labour clowns!
When told to fuck off his reply is;
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
You are failing on all accounts, please will you fuck off!!!!
Bit worried about signing it in case i end up on the list of dissenters.
Have we got any saltmines in europe?
Yep. Winsford, in Cheshire. Didn’t notice any chain gangs, last time I was there, though.
Some in Northern Ireland too I believe, chain gangs not sure about.
will gangs with chains do?
Yes in krakow
FUCK YOU DAVE CAMERON!
FUCK YOU VERY MUCH!
I WILL NEVER VOTE TORY WHILE YOU ARE THE LEADER.
AND SHAME ON WILLIAM HAGUE!
Hague’s body language and facial expressions in all this have been very interesting. Looks like a man being forced to eat shit….
Imagine if Hague and some other big Tories went over to UKIP!
Hague does look very uncomfortable
Hey can I join in ?
lmao. you again.
If UKIP had a ghost of a chance of winning the election I could be easily persuaded to to give them my vote . But,unless UKIP take a massive lead in the opinion polls,I will not assist the treacherous poltroons of Labour return to office .
Oh, I dunno, it would be quite a perverse pleasure to see Cammo with egg on his face, and to see Nulabour unexpectedly having to get us out of the financial shit they have got us into. But, having said that, the thought of five more years of NuLabour is probably too much to bare.
Yeah, that is beginning to look attractive.
It could finish liebour off for a very long time if they had to clean up their own mess.
As stated elsewhere, it doesn’t matter anymore which of the parties get into power in the UK as the EU now holds power over us all. Forget the old party political system as was in the UK and send a string message to the fuckwits that you won’t stand for their lame excuses over Europe.
How can they take a massive lead if people such as yourself are not willing to give them the chance and vote for them?
Catch22.
You need to make it happen, we all do by uniting against the other shits that have consistently raped our land for personal gain.
A vote for tory, labourshit or libdums is just a vote for a continuation of what we’ve already had.
I for one want to see a complete meltdown of those other bastards and a change in the way things are done in this country but you have to sometimes take a leap of faith.
Now its our turn to fuck them in the ass ( mark oaten youre invited ;) ) with the general election.
Use your vote or lose your country for ever.
They will not get that lead in the opinion polls unless people start telling them, I wasn’t going to vote, but now I will vote UKIP. Or I was going to vote tory/labour/liberal, but now I will vote UKIP.
In other words, do not wait for the opinion polls to change before YOU change. If YOU change then the opinion polls will follow. Have courage, have some self-belief!
I cannot wait to see the next pollster, or fill in the next yougov poll, and happily and proudly declare my intention to vote, and to vote UKIP!
I have spent years holding my nose and voting tory, because I hate labour so much. I really enjoyed voting for UKIP in the European elections and seeing them beat labour!
But now I feel so much happier, that the tories have finally been forced into the open to display their anti-Britishness for all to see. It makes the choice at the next election so clear, so trans-parent.
The ONLY choice at the next election will be to vote for Britain to rule itself, or to be ruled over by a foreign dictatorship.
Nope, not good enough.
One more lost Tory vote ‘Dave’.
Bye then! mind you don’t let the door smack you on the arse on the way out
I think that door’s far to busy being pushed to hit anyone’s arse.
UKIP’s website crashed yesterday. SO MANY PEOPLE deciding that the only way to defend British Sovereignty is to vote UKIP
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/04/cia-guilty-rendition-abu-omar
off topic slighly but what does this do or Millibands eu prospects – looks like he might be headed for a different position altogether – bent over a prison sink!
B&P and UKIP will rake in loads of ex Tory members now, loads of experience and money coming to them.
BNP will pick up ZaNu Lie Baaah votes and UKIP will take votes from the Tories. Very few Tories will vote for BNP.
I do have a lot of admiration for the B&P and hope that they take millions of votes from labour.
But I shall vote UKIP.
I would love to see a UKIP Government with a B&P opposition. Sanity might return to this land.
We might see the establishment finally treat Adults, like adults, and children, like children, instead of the reverse as we do now. An end to ridiculously overbearing and illogical levels of health and safety oppression. I mean, it now takes 3 people and expensive motorised lifting platform to clean a second floor window. WTF??? What is wrong with one man, a ladder and a bucket and chamois?
It would mean an end to the evil politically correct thought police mentality that divides people into minority groups and pits them against each other.
It would mean an end to expensive quangos and returning power to those we elect and to those who we can then fire at election time. A hell of a lot of time is wasted by MP’s acting as an answering service for their pet quangos. Instead of taking the decisions we vote them into power to make, they pass that off to an unelected, expensive, quango!
We could control our fishing, our agriculture, our economy, our justice system, OUR LAWS.
VOTE UKIP to be treated like the rational adults you are!
What bullshit from Cameron, does he honestly think anyone will believe this garbage. But he still managed to mention the climate change hoax crap.
From January, 2010, all politcans will become powerless, the House of Commons should, from thereon, be referred to as the House of Caretakers.
Still Zac & the green tosser should be pleased, the lights will go out, the power switched off and the HoC left powerless, in every way. A green powerless building.
Seeing as those that will be sitting in this caretaking establishment will be powerless I am at a loss to see why they should be paid. It only needs one or two, pro rata wages, to rubber stamp the Brussels diktats as they arrive, the rest should be evicted, without redundancy pay or a reference.
As to getting out of the EU. We were taken in by stealth so taking us out by stealth shouldn’t be too hard.
We had better make the best of using the internet as very soon Brussels will see this as dissent and restrict its use. Or it could be that once they start raising taxes from us that go directly to them, and the rubber stampers here take their share we probably won’t able to afford to pay for the internet anyway.
Put all the Eurbastards up against the wall and shoot the lot of them.
Once a dictatorship has taken power (and that’s what it is..I for sure didn’t elect any of them) the next step is to stamp out all forms of dissent. Hitler and Stalin did it by executing everyone, but this lot will probably be slightly more subtle.
Lots of surveillance ( we already have that in place here, so the euromasters will be very pleased to be able to utilise it) lots of pro-europe propaganda (already have that in place too – it’s called the BBC) and then cultural changes, all school children to be given compulsorary propaganda – sorry lessons – in the benefits of the EU (oops we already have that too) and to spy on, and report parents who do not supprt it.
In fact, there could be a special compulsory organisation for young people, the EU Youth League! Wait a minute….that sounds familiar…..
Ratsniffer, there is nothing wrong with your nose.
Watch the establishment now try and put both the B&P and UKIP parties out of business.
Should be a doddle after U.K. plc.
I’m (reluctantly) going to vote Tory to get rid of the NuLieBore scumbags. Labour is the biggest threat to Britain, Europe is secondary
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100013101/david-cameron-promises-to-repatriate-powers-from-the-eu/
Dan Hannan is always a good view to take and in this instance he seems to be giving cameron his support.
We all hate the Lisbon Treaty – So c’mon who was it that signed it away? – Oh yes our very own gordon!!
And let’s remember he even did that in a backhand way – hiding until the last moment, and then only appearing to put a signature on a paper in the hope there wasn’t a photographer nearby to record his perfidy. Bless!
What is it with the women on this site that they all seem to be of the shrug your shoulders, least said soonest mended type? I know you can’t grow a pair but ffs at least show a little fight rather than rolling over hoping to be tickled by Cameron!
If you don’t you’ll be playing newlabour at it’s own game. Don’t fall into that scum mandlescum’s trap.
Women are better at playing the long game. We hate the EU as much as you do, Thatcher certainly did and played the EU Commissioners like a fiddle for years… now we’ve got to do it all over again.
You imbue the Dark Lord with a power he doesn’t have. You think you should be wary of him therefore you are. If you could see him for the useless puff of wind he is then you’d swat him away like a bollockless gnat.
Susie, it would be much easier, quicker and more effective to tell the EU to simply FUCK OFF!
We would save billions in EU costs at the same time.
The pound would plummet initially, but on the plus side, we could then invest heavily in manufacturing and exports and rebuild our economy, based on fair, but flexible working practices. We could really slash red-tape and unleash our entrepreneurial expertise. We could become a rich tax haven too. the pound would rebound. We would retain control of our oil and gas fields and our nuclear power and weaponry. we would retain our seat on the Security Council as a nuclear power and head of the Commonwealth.
Vote UKIP, vote B&P, whatever, but vote for Britain.
Or vote to see our sovereignty removed piece by piece until there is NOTHING left.
Cameron spoke well of our sovereignty, but he still left it as a matter of trust, that we trust him to protect it.
We cannot trust any of the incumbent politicians, they have proved this over and over again. We must NOT be in a position to have to trust. We must be in a position where they cannot possibly have any capacity to remove our sovereignty.
You cannot protect British Sovereignty by voting conservative or labour or liberal.
I see what you’re saying Nell, but we’ve come to expect that from Snotty and Nulabour, lies, lies and more lies, and betrayal comes as part of that package.
We’d hoped for better things from No Balls Dave, (and Hague) and frankly their performance today, pretending that they can still prevent power being devolved to brussels when the Lisbon treaty means it already has been, was patronising and pathetic.
OK Anon and Ratsniffer.
So tell us – it What is he realistically to do at this point when he still cannot be certain that he will win the next election?
I asked the question yesterday, and I ask now – Does any political party that wins the next election have the legal power to take us out of the EU??
He could grow some balls and have some principles. The GBP are sick to death of being lied to and betrayed time and time again. If he’s doing this just because he is scared of losing the next election he should go away and upen up a corner shop somewhere.
Voters want honesty and principles and a leader who fights our corner every step of the way.
Who makes laws?
What happens if a whole country refuses point blank to obey European Law?
The sooner this fight is fought the better, because come what may, it WILL have to be fought.
You’re willing to risk an abnormally curved cucumber?
So I say again be precise. What can cameron do?
OK let’s move it on – If cameron wins office at the next GE – does he have the legal power to ask the electorate if they want to :-
a) to repeal the Lisbon Treaty? or
b) to bring us out of the EU altogether ?
If there are any legal bods on here I would welcome an answer as I have asked these questions repeatedly for weeks.
Does any political party have the legal power…? Oh ffs, who’s sovereign in this country ? Who governs ME? My MP, whom I vote for, or some faceless, unaccountable c***ts in Brussels?
To answer your question.
Whoever is the next Prime Minister WILL have the power to call a referendum on whatever issue they wish.
So YES, IF DC becomes PM, he will be able to order a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty (may be pointless in itself, as he has no power to compel the other 26 states to accept the result)
IF we had the referendum on Lisbon, and we rejected it, THEN we would be saying to the EU that we do not comply or consent to those provisions of EU law.
Cameron COULD lawfully recognise the Sovereignty of the UK and declare that the EU laws enacted by the Lisbon treaty no longer apply. However, this would open a HUGE can of worms. Unilaterally rejecting Lisbon would not be without consequence.
Sadly, the UK populace has never been asked if it consents to a complete subjugation to foreign rule which is the direction in which the EU is going.
As the rest of the EU progresses towards complete integration, we cannot prevent them from reaching that destination, if they so wish.
But we should be given a say in if WE want to go to that destination.
The option to go this far and no further has GONE! The rest of the EU want to continue to their destination, they can only get there by either dragging us along with them, kicking and screaming all the way, or by us having a say in a referendum that comes out in favour of that destination, or by letting us leave.
We should be treated like adults and be given a say in whether or not we want to go there, instead of being lied to and treated like children.
So, finally, to answer your question. YES Cameron COULD reject the Lisbon treaty and the laws that stem there-from, but to do so would inevitably lead to the need to pull us out of the EU altogether.
Again that is something that Cameron would have the lawful power to so do, especially if supported by a referendum.
And that is the point. My over-riding concern is for the sovereignty of this LAND and through that the sovereignty of the men and women living here.
IF we were given a say in a referendum, and we voted to integrate wholly with the EU, then I would, with a heavy heart, accept that outcome, having been arrived at in a mature, adult and democratic manner.
What I can NEVER accept, is witnessing our sovereignty, slowly pissed away, without the expressed consent of the British People, for that is TREASON!
Yes, keep your eye on the target – and the target is -gorgon
Gordon was – and remains – mentally incapable of entering into any form of legal agreement. It’s non-binding, what he’s done, if only you thick fuckers awoke to the fact.
Don’t do it. Dave is the Heir to Blair. He is intent on selling the UK out to Europe.
CLS
10 RUN 20
20 Blair2.0.exe
CLS
30 Print “CAST IRON DAVE – is here”
40 END
You haven’t done any programming in a very long time have you?
here is a very rough function to do the job!
function BlairClone(blair) {
if (electionWin == “Cameron”) {
while (exists(blair”)) do {
Cameron = blair;
Cameron .= 2.0;
}
} else {
abort;
}
return Cameron;
}
The Israelis have just intercepted an arms shipment from Iran destined for their enemies. Just at the right time for the newly unified Europe under its new unelected foreign policy supremo to authorise a totally legitimate massive attack on Iran on behalf of all the people of Europe.
Sorry if already posted but if not do you all Remember the petition to get rid of McTwat
This is the governments response to it. I have not altered a thing
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
LMFAO
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
The electrons in my piss are in an unbound state.
Then they are a gas. You must have exploded.
…perhaps that’s why you’re now South of the M4!
No, a gas is unbound molecules , a plasma has unbound electrons.
Hey Guido, you need a darn good spring clean up there. Any chance of pinning down the anonymous multiple posters coming in off the same IP address? Maybe physically with the help of a blunt object.
I know that whacking off simplistic “comments”, abuse and faux “UKIP” pleadings is keeping at least one poor sod off McDoom’s dole stats over at Liebore HQ and your graciously giving them a platform might be considered a public service but, you know what, it makes it very hard for any serious debate to take place on here some days.
If I were UKIPWEBMASTER on here (assuming they have such a character – is he getting paid ok these days?) I would start qualifying some of this stuff because otherwise there will be a backlash on the basis that some of these supposed “I was a tory and now I’m with UKIP” posters are clearly deranged and, er, are not exactly doing the cause a favour.
Anyway I’ve still not had an answer to my questions from last night (despite all these “UKIPPERS” on here) and so can someone tonight help me with:
If UKIP formed a government (or whatever) and held a referendum and the British people said “actually we need to stay in Europe” then what is Plan B?
There were other questions but hey I’m worn out today with all this.
How do you know what the fucking IP adresses are, you prick!
IP adresses are recorded in on a site’s logs (if Guido keeps them), they’ll look something like this, 127.0.100.197 would be the IP of the visitor(although this is faked)…
BlahPage::Nov:04/2009/Wednesday-19:55:40::127.0.100.197::Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)::/::
I’m not sure UKIP have the answers either, I am not sure any of them do. The more this goes on the more I think the ruling elite are totally disconnected from the people they claim to represent.
There we go; that about sums up this mass debate.
I’ll switch the lights off on my way out.
Meant for “Pete”.
As a casual observation – why would one need a Plan B, we would have found out the will of the British electorate. Goodness, isn’t that what they used to call democracy in the days when at least lip-service was paid to the concept!
Of course, such a result of a putative referendum is in the land of fantasy!
Yep, that’s the answer I got last night too ie “we know which way it’ll go”. And, er, that is not “democracy” (other than Iran or Afghan-style). It is also not an answer, I repeat if it doesn’t go the way you want it to what is Plan B?
[Ok, I was on my way out]
UKIP campaigns on a LEAVE the EU ticket. If they won it wouldn’t need a referendum, they just won one.
Do you mean the UKIPPERS are lying to us too? Shock horror, vote UKIP and then we don’t get a referendum. I need a drink and a lie down.
BTW you’ve just paraphrased Dave’s point beautifully ACO. Nice one.
I’ve just been modded ACO and I drank all the vino last night so need to bugger off now and get more in. You’ll maybe see my reply later!
With all due respect to your higher intellect chaps, could anyone tell me why the ” super toff ” cameron insists that it a done deal. why cant we just say FUCK OFF and do our own funky thing. This twat is no better than the current bunch of treasonous filth so i am thinking that perhaps a nationalist approach would be more conducive to the preservation of my nation ( what is left of it ).
allah ackbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
Watch out for A A Gill.
Didn’t take you long to get the wine in Max!
Quite Barbedwireblues well said, Why are all these politicos such spineless shits!!
Perhaps we should all petition the No10 Website with a view to the Government commissioning a painting of the epic moment that our traitor in chief signed this wretched Treaty. Surely they would want to commemorate the epic moment when their mission was finally accomplished. (Such a shame they didn’t get a photograph
We should all vote UKIP and let Labour get in again.
That would -
1) Force the Tories to change their policies and reflect the views of their natural supporters for a change.
2) Give Labour the job of clearing up their own mess. Obviously, they would fail and would never gain power again.
Of course if we all vote UKIP, it would not be Liebore that got in, it would be UKIP!
I mean ‘us’ of a right-wing persuasion.
Crikey, there is one born every minute.
Liebore and the Libidos will immediately impose AV or PR and the tories will never get in again; we will be in the EUSSR and I for one will simply choose the sunniest part of it to reside in.
I’m sorry, but for your convenience new rules governing the transference of your pension, qualification for health treatment and your right to purchase property may be compromised should you leave the eurozone of england.
Nope, all of these are the point of the EUSSR.
Max, you’ve missed the point: they only want our money, they don’t actually want us to come and live with them!
They do, they do! I forsee mainland EUSSR as the place they care about and if you are likeminded you can join in too; I forsee the UK as their prison colony, oops, sorry as a place that can self determine to an extent but actually is there to look after all of the asylum seekers, economic migrants, loonies and other undesirables, presided over by the Scots obviously. A bit like now but “going forwards”. It would all work you know. Well obviously not in Britain, er, without things like electricity etc.
Max – I like that answer. All sensible Englishmen should up sticks and go to the nicest bit of the Eussr and set up a new colony. Reminds me of 1989 when in HK and there was a proposal to buy the Isle of Wight and move business there. That would have been interesting.
Hi Pensioner and Max
Yep, I liked Max’s answer – seems bleedin’ obvious to me. Pensioner, I moved to the IOW about 10 yrs ago and ran a business there. You really don’t want to try it – they have no idea; half of them are too scared to have taken the ferry to the mainland and others haven’t even managed to get to the other side of the island. You made a good decision when you let the proposal idea slip, believe me….. we left as soon as we could!
Held nose voted for Major. Held nose voted for that bald bloke. Held nose voted for that quiet bloke. Held nose when ‘Dave’ brought back that fat bloke and that long haired bloke. All proves, the man has no new clothes just the same old tired spin and rubbish. Dave, you’ve got about as much chance of being the next Prime Minister as I have. Why don’t you do us all a favour and go and play in the EUSR! I’m off to work for someone who does listen to what the voters say.
Ex- Conservative.
Theres got to be 100,000s no longer backing Cast Iron Dave.
It seems alot of idiots believe thesecomments are the work of labourhomers, or some other socialist crap-hole, but in reality, we are total disallusioned tory voters, now as you say EX-Tory voters.
Stuff Brown, blair, clegg, and Cast iron dave. SHITS!
The “please go” petition has had a response
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
Read the Government’s response
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
So that’s a “no” then. Oh well, not long to wait now…
I rather think the NHS should consider taking the PM into Psychiatric care and ’sectioning’ him under the Mental Health Act.
They can do it either because they regard a person will harm themselves or because he will harm others.
Quite clearly he is ‘harming others’. They need to section him.
Cast iron Dave can join him…
2 for the price of 1.
Thing is dave hasn’t got the power to harm anyone at the moment –
gordon has alreay done immense damage to all of us and to Britiain internationally.
I’ve got a bandsaw nell. We could send a slice to each member of the PLP.
I was very surprised to receive an e-mail from the PM.
I replied “piss off.”
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services.”
To me that reply implies that he’s spent the last 12 years deliberately fucking up the economy and making people unemployed and ignoring corruption, and that following the monumental fuck ups he’s made he’s now trying to urgently bodge/hide things to make up for it.
I agree that there is not enough realistic political debate of the real issues on these sprawling blogs.
Cameron has already announced his defence of his personal cave-in, which is worth, at least some serious discussion.
The proposition put up by David sounds good on the face of it – but the devil, as always is in the detail.
To paraphrase C4 News (which I don’t have too pay for): He’s either completely serious; or he’s just re-arranging his scrotum.
Cameron needs to explain a little more about his intentions to recapture his 1 Million or so lost voters in the space of 24 Hrs.
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What we need to hear is a detailed approach as to how he sees repatriation of powers from the EU working and a more detailed approach in respect of our troops in Afghanistan and ow we are going to get them home —- Soon!!!
Because , if he thinks he is going to keep our troops out there indefinitely, public opinion will defeat him.
Cameron had better take note or he’s going to become an Omaha!!! A One Minute Wonder !!!!
I do so hope not.
Cast Irons finished….
He’s shot his last bolt.
Hague may be thinking and lurking on deck.
Kill Clarke… maybe,take control of the ship?
Worse things happen at sea.
Sorry read that and saw it this way-
“gordon’s finished . He’s shot his last bolt.
Mandy is thinking and lurking on deck.
Militwit (but which one?) is planning to take control of the ship.”
You should go into writing fiction pal.
so, according to Hague, the accession of Turkey isnt worth a referendum.
I’d say thats something very much worthy of a referendum given the hordes of immigrants coming our way if it happens.
According to MrsDale, those considering not supporting Dave, and who are considering voting UKIP, should just FUCKOFF.
Perhaps he licks Daves cast iron scrotum?
Where are the Tory euro-skeptics?, REVOLT, come out of your cupboards FFS.
Nah, we’re quite happy to lay low until Dave becomes PM, thanks all the same.
Now fuck off dick wad.
The next set of national opinion polls might be interesting….
Then again they might not.
Or will they….?
Here’s a cast iron guarantee Mr Cameron….. This life-long Tory is voting UKIP from now on!
Taxi!
They won’t even need a taxi for the number of UKIP MP’s elected next year.
There is another bit of bad news too!
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page21213
Oh and here is my favorite!!
Up yours shorthouse.
What I have done is to write UKIP a monthly standing order until June 2010, giving them as much as I can reasonably afford.
Do the same; it is preferable to insurrection, although that may well prove necessary.
The Electoral Commission have shown us their colours; biased, corrupt, tainted, dishonhourable and treacherous. Oppose them. Replace the money a thousandfold.
In my blogs up and down the country I find you are not alone there is a particular following in the Midlands, I did wonder why Farage went after Bercow’s seat when it should have been a shoo in for him to take over Ann Widecombes, where they share a constituancy in Maidstone Kent, as she will step down at the next Election!
Electoral law does not prohibit an individual from standing for more than one Parliamentary seat. It merely prevents them from having more than one vote in the commons, so it might be worth our man having a crack at several likely seats.
Why don’t you just throw all your money on a bonfire tomorrow?
We don’t need to.
Gordon is doing it for us; that’s our money he is throwing away.
Haven’t you been paying attention?
Gordumb communicates with his people!
Click here to read the Prime Mentalist’s considered response to the 72,234 who signed the petition headed:
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign”
“I’m just getting on with the job blah blah blah….”
Pitiful.
because it’s the right thing to do…
Sun headline today:
Signed. Sealed. Delivered. Up Yours!
Excellent.
We have the worst Government in a lifetime and the Today programme talks to them like old mates and our so called opposition should be lambasting them at every turn!! 18 months ago Cameron should have called an early day motion of no confidence!! With half the Labour Party at the time also expressing little confidece in the leadership that should have been the time to strike. Cameron has no bottle, what good would he be as UK premiere I would rather Boris lost his buffoon image and take over he certainly has more of a Churchillian quality!
As I said at the time how come 4 million Irish votes outweigh the 60 million potential British vote?
Too many pictures of Nigel Barrage.
++EUROPEAN UNION DECLARES WAR ON GREAT BRITAIN++THE BRITISH RESISTANCE RELEASES ITS FIRST OFFICIAL STATEMENT++”WE HAVE INITIATED OPERATION ROPE AND WE WILL REPEL THE OCCUPYING EU FORCES WITH ALL MEANS AT OUR DISPOSAL++ HAVE NO FEAR GOOD CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF GREAT BRITAIN, WE WILL DEFEAT THE OCCUPIERS AND EJECT THEM FROM THE UNITED KINGOM”++END OF STATEMENT++
Vast swathes of specially bred attack nuns are being parachuted into Oxfordshire as I blog!! But fear ye not ye snivelling bilge rats. Drakes drum is beating Arthur stirs in his cave and the gentlemen of these islands are at last about to speak
All across the land, men are tying kitchen knives to the ends of broomsticks and gathering tins of 3-in-1 oil to spread on the roads and slow the progress of the EU’s tanks. We shall fight them on the beaches, etc. etc…
Engineer. I like the cut of your jib. Bye Jimminey if we had more like you these puffed up Eurocrats wouln’t stand a chance. I hear a party of Jacobites is pushing South and has got as far as Derby!! What can this mean Is there a Scots man in the house who can explain his country position on these matters of great import.
So long as it isn’t vast numbers of Catholic priests: at least the kids won’t get buggered.
A vote for UKIP is a vote for Brown.
Seriously the rants of people here are rather amusing.
No it’s not.
Cameron will still win.
But he’ll have a very small majority. Nothing like the landslide Blair had in ‘97.
The last thing this country needs is another government with a large majority…
The last thing we need is another Labour gvt. Vote UKIP? Get real.
And a vote for Cameron is a vote for Blair
No a vote for UKIP is a vote for UKIP. A vote for Dave is a vote for Europe.
UKIP if you want to…..
On matters such as mass immigration, political correctness, the EU, and Islam it would appear a vote for Cameron is also a vote for Brown.
‘Tory traitor leader treats tory fuckwits with the contempt they deserve for ever having believed him’ shock.
Seems he took a leaf out of our book by mistake.
Having a good laugh at all the anti Dave comments today. Lot’s of anonymongs and names I’ve never seen on here before.
Hmmm….they wouldn’t all have the same IP address by any chance would they?
tit
Looks like I’ve flushed one out for starters. Hello arthur, you dopey old tart
you would have done well in viche france; hoon
arthur I’m shocked. I didn’t think they kept you up this late in the care home.
Oh dear, you haven’t shit the bed again have you? Tut tut…
Nope.
Nor me.
Couldn`t believe it. What a pathetic performance from Dave he tried to sound tough but came across a weak.
Cast Iron? Putty more like.
Yeah, this one has definitely got the smell of Master Baiter’s socks running right through it.
Nigel Farage on YouTube , brilliant hes the kind of man we need now.
Yeah, thanks Nigel, we get the message.
Cameron missed the boat because Brown failed to deliver the one he promised.
Don’t worry, there’ll be another one along shortly. They always come in threes. Unlike breasts.
tru dat.
Well, I suppose that having had Clarke, Reid and Jaquiboots as Home Secretary, I can see that there is one case where you can argue from the general to the particular
Just been watching Andrew Marr’s “History of Modern Britain (from a thinly-disguised lefty stance)” on the Beeb.
Is it compulsory for loony lefties to mispronounce “aristocrat” as “a-WRIST-ocrat?
Marr wrote an article in the labourgraph trying to defend his leftie “history” show. Lots of great attacks on Marr in the on-line comments.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/6498659/My-history-is-more-than-Leftist-prejudice.html
“Kelly doesn’t know what he is talking about”
Another triumph for Mad Nads!
Well, to quote the late (and much missed) NewGirl of this blog, she is blonde….
I’ve just had an email re petition asking brown to fuck off, has a link to a page that says:
The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.
Berk!
For just a moment there I thought you said he was completely focused on destroying the economy! As if the “Prudent Chancellor” would even contemplate such a thing!
Not only is a vote for UKIP a vote against the EUSSR, it is also a vote for a common sense response to the climate hysteria.
For example, from thec UKIP energy manifesto: “We believe that whilst climate change is proven, the arguments over global warming, and particularly anthropogenic global warming (AGW), are at this time unproven. We believe that the security, happiness and prosperity of the nation are too important to be thrown away in the pursuit of illusory aims.”
All Dave has is Zac Goldsmith who defended the Kingsnorth trespassers with these words: “By building a coal-power plant in this country, it makes it very much harder [to exert] pressure on countries like China and India” to reduce their burgeoning use of the fossil fuel.”
What a buffoon.
Thank you Conservative Party but, after many years of support, I’m moving to UKIP.
Whilst yoy lot were busy blogging, I’ve just been and cranked out an EU referendum. See its really quite easy. thats the answer, Why dont we all poll ourselves and pronounce the result on the No10 Website. Act locally Think sensibly and produce a radical solution and remember dont drink and blog.
What took you so long to catch on, you dozy cnut?
common market yes eu no; the people of this country have lost their balls to the political class traitors.
Yep, lost their balls, what they don’t know is that a penectomy is the next stage in the process.
On a slightly different subject, I’ve had my reply today to an old No.10 petition I signed.
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to resign.”
Details of Petition:
“There are many reasons why we might want Brown to resign, but rather than having lots of narrow petitions on this topic (most of which have been rejected), I wanted one for all of us.”
Read the Government’s response
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
My response
Foxtrot Oscar
Shame that it wasn’t both Balls and Ball-Scooper that they’d lost. Then again, that would be a gain, not a loss.
eh up lads , funny how they focus on dave and not the hoons that let this happen , Dont blame dave ,blame the hoon that whipped his party to refuse us a vote , gordon ya hoon YOU ARE A TRAITER
Hey freddy, shouldn’t that be ‘traitor’? You’ve forgot to put your spell check on again mate.
cheers lad but you get the drift
Er, Freddie, I think it was actually Blair that shat on us all in exchange for the EU Presidency for ‘im & Slotgob.
lad there are hoons that need a shotgun up the arse
LABOUR LIED
We are not blaming Dave. Just saying we won’t vote for him.
well lad when you see your faverite footballers/sports icons leave for spain dubia then you can thank labour for a decade of bullshit lad
If Dave refuses to behave like a Conservative, what choice do we have?
why not wait for the manifesto lad
Hi Fred. Hope the knee is healing nicely, and not giving too much pain.
For a more considered approach to the problem, see post 530 above, and Moley puts the thoughtful UKIP point of view at post 577.
Certainly got people going, has this Lisbon Treaty…
hey lad knee getting better hope to be fit for bandlegash ukip and the bnand p the leftist nutters will cash in unless dave keeps his word
Especially you Tory damage limitation spin drones.
Not you freddie. The grease monkey.
Watch it, Fraud Squad. I’ll apply my torque wrench to your nuts. 110 foot-pounds will make your eyes water…
P.S. I’m not a member of any political party, and never have been.
No? Is that why the logical,considered,pragmatic analysis of the monkey’s wrench always seems to favour the “Give Dave a chance” solution of a cross threaded political system. Tightening your nuts only complicates the problem.
I just give my opinion, for what it’s worth. Not sure what your opinion is, other than ranting at people. Maybe you haven’t got one. Your problem, anyway.
G’night.
Don’t forget to put your timesheet in at Conservative HQ.
Hey up Freddie lad thars been quiet of late,bowl them a googlie
lads we have been fucked with a unelected pm and a corupt house , only one thing can fix it
A SHOTGUN UP THE ARSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Can’t find that in the Rules of Test Cricket, Freddie! Can you provide a reference?
retired from test cricket lad but in the ipl its on the table
Repatriation of powers!
MY ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!
lads while i am here can i ask you look at my Charity and donate if you can ?
http://www.affoundation.co.uk/
Sorry, Freddie. Too many causes in Sub-Saharan Africa we need to consider first.
So the BBC and SKY tells me, anyway.
Guido – Why barely any copy from you today of all days? Too busy skulking around Portcullis House at lunchtime?
Oh dear! All the conservatives that thought SuperDave was going to ride to their rescue have had a short,sharp,shock of Willie proportions.
Do you not get it yet? Dave is a Eurobitch. He is as committed to the “Project” as the monkeys in red rosettes. Still,he might bring back foxhunting,so stick with him.
CID is just another Traitor. You can tell that from his haircut. Next!!!!!!!!!!!!
What do you know of my proportions?
I gave up hunting some years ago but getting rid of the Hunting Act whilst very good news indeed does rather pale alongside the implications of the Lisbon Law.
I have this fantasy, though, where a muddied Tony Blair in a string vest and shorts, having laid a draghunting line, gets dismembered by a pack of Rottweilers. I suppose Bull Terriers would be more patriotic but, hey, this is the EU.
++++THIS JUST IN+++++
“The economy not who controls Britain is my priority” Says Cameron.
Time to end the talking.
Dave, you must think everyone is stupid.
Well, many of us are, actually, thanks to 45 years of Leftie dumbing down in our schools and popular media
.
Still, you have underestimated the people and signed up with a bunch of traitors. Now you will have to live with this decision, Dave.
Bad decision, Dave.
Bye, Dave.
Look out for that Horse Dave! **KERRRUUUNCH** Too late, it’s trampled him
Damage limitation complete, all tidy and ready for the next election.
Nifty bit of foot work there Dave, well done. This will all be forgotten by next week when Brown drops his next clanger.
I have drawn a line under this and there shall be no more unrest from the Eurosceptics as long as I am in charge.
Oh yes!
John Major PM at the time. A big fucking difference shit fer brains.
so you don’t think Cameron willl ever be PM
amusing and revealing
P.S. my, my, you are an ignorant little cun’t aren’t you ?
>>>*** BREAKING STORY *** <<<
Dan Hannan MEP resigns from tory frontbench. Read it NOW at 'A RIGHT PERSPECTIVE'…
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/dan-hannan-resigns/
November 4, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Poor old Guido’s favourite Tories, Hannan and Carswell are still barking fiercely at the moon for a Referendum that Cameron isn’t going to give them
What will Guido do?!?!?!?
Follow the Party Line or stick with his chums ???
Decisions, decisions.
—
Decision made if this Hannan resignation is true
Is Carswell next ?
Will Guido call Hannan an eccentric like Cameron or support him ?
Hannans words
“This Conservative is for a referendum: a proper, deep-cleansing referendum that will settle whether our country remains subordinate, or becomes self-governing. Now who will stand on either hand and keep the bridge with me?”
I’d be careful if I were you, you sound as if you’re ready to pop, and you’re gonna look very silly in the morning.
Are you new here ?
Hannan is one of Guido’s most quoted and favoured Conservative voices and he is clearly opposed to the limp wristed mealy mouthed Ken Clarke pleasing ‘no referendium’ shit sputtering from Cameron’s mouth
Someone at least has the balls to stand up for a referendum
And it certainly ain’t you, little mouse
Oh dear, sounds as if you have popped, and there’s more than egg dripping down your cretinous face.
it sounds like you are a twatty little troll who doesn’t have a fucking clue what he is talking about
Hannan has said he’s returned to the back benches
Who looks stupid now fuckstick ? That would be you.
So if Guido decides to run on this I’ll keep an eye out for your apology
But I won’t hold my breath since you are clearly a shit-eating little mouse who’s been rammed so far up the chutney with CCO Party Spin he regurgitates it like a good little pet when instructed
Calm down nut job, it’s only a fucking blog. You’re getting all excited about fuck all at the end of the day. Why don’t you have one last jerk off, it might settle you down for the night. It was clear last night that Dan was gonna resign, and really, so fucking what? Another half billion quid was pissed up the wall by this Labour government today. Dan knows the score. He’ll keep schtum until after the election.
You still Squeaking little mouse ?
You were told the facts so why don’t you fuck off back to your care home for your good night bully-ramming and take your medicine like a good little pet
If it was clear he was going to resign why didn’t you or Guido or anyone else say anything till now ? Hmmm ? DUUUHHH!!!!
You pathetic little weasely streak of evasive piss
By all means, please continue making yourself look a complete twat
It’s hilarious stuff
Looks like we’re fucked now.
Labour are basically saying “too late; legally we’re now locked into the treaty and any national legislation that we pass is irrelevant because it’s legally superceded by eu law that we can’t do anything about.”
the tories say “we’ll pass uk legislation to stop further powers being transferred to the eu” (which seems to be irrelevant if that uk legislation doesn’t hold any water in the eu).
There’s only 4 options from what I can see:
1) Renegotiate the lisbon treaty so it’s got a backout clause for national legislation and get all eu countries to re-ratify, then pass uk law to supercede the relevant points from the treaty, then pass uk law to make sure we never sign up to such a power-transfer treaty again without a referendum.
2) Tell the eu that the lisbon treaty is no longer being adhered to by the uk, and that we’ll just take whatever sanctions that contract-break entails, then pass uk law to make sure we never sign up to such a power-transfer treaty again without a referendum.
3) Accept the treaty (no point passing uk law because it’ll get superceded by eu law anyway)
4) Leave the EU.
I think 1 is going to be impossible; there’s no way all 27 countries will agree to a renegotiation.
So that just leaves 2/3/4.
I say we go for 2, tell the eu that there are some basic democratic rights which should never be taken away no matter what. Use the logic:
“If I got you to sign a contract to say that it was legal for you to burgle my neighbour’s house, and then you robbed my neighbour, does the fact that you signed the contract exonerate you from the burglary? No. There are some basic rights and responsibilities that just can’t be given or taken away. There are some absolutes which must stand no matter what some stupid fuckwit might have signed in the past.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100015753/we-must-have-a-referendum-and-not-just-on-the-eu/
It’s begun
He said this on Newsnight last night you dozy fuck.
Follow the link and look at the date you dildo-sucking submoron
“We need a broad movement within the Conservative Party that will push for referendums, citizens’ initiatives and the rest of the paraphernalia of direct democracy. I don’t just mean a referendum on Europe – though, naturally, that is the obvious place to start. I mean full-on Helvetic people power, as adumbrated in this best-selling publication. I have returned to the back benches in order to concentrate on building such a movement.”
He didn’t fucking say that on Newsnight last night now, did he ?
twat
Watch Newsbnight again and read between the lines you ignoramus.
Did he say that last night on Newsnight or not twat ?
Yes or fucking No ?
And if you can’t even manage that then piss off you moronic wanker
you mean the crack in your arse line ?
Oh I see, you haven’t got the nous to read between the lines. It figures, you fucking plank. Even Fraser Nelson tried to hold out the bone of an in or out referendum, but Dan had already made up his mind.
You really are a pitiful little weasel pathetically trying to dodge and duck the question but not having the self-awareness to realise how blatantly dishonest you look
You’re a fucking embarrassment
Let me answer the question for you since you are clearly far too stupid
He did NOT say that.
You are full of shit.
You’re not very good at this political lark are you? Or blogging for that matter. Too excitable and irrational. You’re not a woman are you?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3638070067334601051#
“You’re not very good at this political lark are you? Or blogging for that matter. Too excitable and irrational. You’re not a woman are you?”
Hahahahahaa!
That’s HI-larious. worth quoting and highlighting every insane phrase
Do you even know or realise what you are typing ?
or does it all fall out like vomiting tourettes ?
“Are you a woman ?” ROFL!
That’s seriously the fucking best you’ve got ?
and you have the wonderful complete lack of self-awareness to ask if anyone else is a complete beginner while doing it
This is a wind up isn’t it ? You’re only pretending to be a troll because nobody could be this fucking bad at it on purpose.
Keep taking the tablets and making us laugh fuckwit
We must have a referendum – and not just on the EU
It’s not chiefly about Europe – it’s about democracy. Regular readers will know that I have always seen the repatriation of jurisdiction from Brussels as a means to an end. Having got the powers back, we should pass them down to local authorities or, better yet, to individual citizens. I want decisions to be decentralised, diffused, democratised. I want open primaries, popular initiative procedures, elected sheriffs, self-financing councils, an end to quangos, recall mechanisms and, yes, referendums – lots and lots of referendums.
I have been campaigning since I was 18 years old for a referendum on Britain’s relationship with the EU – the referendum that David Cameron has now ruled out for the duration of the next Parliament. I can see his point of view: he doesn’t want to be distracted from the Herculean task of reducing the budget deficit. (I am sure, by the way, that this is a sincere motive. The assertion, made by some half-clever journalists, that the Tory leader was secretly relieved by the implementation of the European Constitution Lisbon Treaty, is false. I know for a fact that he did his best to retard Lisbon’s ratification until after our general election.)
Then again, as I say, this issue goes beyond Europe. The legitimacy of our representative institutions is at stake. Out of 646 MPs in Westminster, 638 were elected on the a promise of a referendum. True, the Lisbon Treaty is now in force. But there is nothing to prevent us having a referendum on whether we, as a country, participate in its provisions. After all, the 1975 referendum was a retrospective ballot, held to ratify the “better terms” negotiated by the Wilson ministry. I made the case for a referendum on Lisbon in this blog two years ago, and I haven’t changed my mind. (If you’ve forgotten what is so dreadful about the European Constitution Lisbon Treaty, by the way, read this).
We need a broad movement within the Conservative Party that will push for referendums, citizens’ initiatives and the rest of the paraphernalia of direct democracy. I don’t just mean a referendum on Europe – though, naturally, that is the obvious place to start. I mean full-on Helvetic people power, as adumbrated in this best-selling publication. I have returned to the back benches in order to concentrate on building such a movement.
Don’t misunderstand me: I voted for David Cameron as leader, I like him, and I reckon he’d be a million times better than Gordon Brown as Prime Minister. One of his strengths is that, unlike Gordon Brown, he doesn’t mind people disagreeing with him. Well, then. This Conservative is for a referendum: a proper, deep-cleansing referendum that will settle whether our country remains subordinate, or becomes self-governing. Now who will stand on either hand and keep the bridge with me?
All good points, Dan. I’ll stand on the bridge with you.
I have a case in the High Court, at the centre of which is the citizens’ right to be part of open democratic decision-taking in local government. Many people, from individuals to local councillors of all parties, have contacted me to support the claim.
As my barrister Paul Greatorex said in court: ‘Leeds City Council showed “a persistent disregard for its statutory and constitutional obligations as well as an institutionalised indifference towards open, informed democratic decision-taking, both of which are demonstrated by its habit of leaving important matters until the last minute, which are then ‘nodded through’ without discussion”.’
This democratic deficit runs throughout government in the UK and we really need to get a grip. A referendum on Europe is only part of the solution.
lads look at it like this labour =smears and lies and cons =not as bad
king tit
freddies all at sea.
Not for the first time.
Mummy! Can you pull strings and get my arse out of the firing line?
The Knighthood and kickbacks from the Al Yammah arms deal did me proud,but now i need you to stop that beastly Mann blabbermouth from dragging me into the muck over my attempt to become King of Guinea.
Have a word with that dreadful prat Cameron,and get him to give Mann a gong in exchange for keeping mum. Ha Ha!
Your loving Marky
Just rejoice that your arse will soon be in a sling!
“Best pony up Mark or you’re going to get your collar felt by plod
A few thousand to start with in this bank account or I go to the tabloids”
“MmmHmm.. thought so.. Splendid! Knew you’d see it my way”
I can arrange for you to get lost in the desert again. How’s about that?
No Balls Dave has upset the french, who have been quick to point out he will get no help from them in re-negotiating anything. As any kind of renegotiation requires the agreement of other member states, it looks like Dave’s “never again” spin is dead in the water already.
“The Conservatives’ stance on the EU has been attacked as a “pathetic” move that will “castrate” UK influence in Europe, a French government minister has said.
France’s minister for Europe Pierre Lellouche said EU leaders would not help the Tories re-negotiate treaties. ”
- Source BBC .
Forget “renegotiation” – the only option now is total withdrawal asap.
This comes as a big surprise.
when are you numb nuts tories/labour going to get some balls and let the uk live or fall on their own merits.
Upsetting the French should be compulsory. And let’s face it, it’s not difficult.
How about this as an opener to LaDouche: “no money till you fucking frogs start showing some respect”
is that a cast iron promise ?
No more money util the accounts are audited and approved would be a more rational and entirely legal approach.
Who, in Europe could legitimately argue with that?
So your argument is that a frog with a big gob speaks for the whole of europe sourced from that outstandingly non partisan totally unbiast pillar of integrity called the BBC? dont make me laugh.
DAN HANNAN RESIGNES IN PROTEST AT CAMERON, BREAKING NEWS!!! A RIGHT PERSPECTIVE…>>>
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/dan-hannan-resigns/
Just got a response from No. 10 re the petition for snoteater to resign
It just basically said “Fuck Off”…
So. We’re all agreed labours fucked.Half their voters either will not turn out,or will turn to the beeunpeers.Lots of Conservatives are drifting to Ukip.Lib Dems continue to focus on nirvana.
TaTs hung parliament theory gathers belief.
Our rapid response electoral fraud teams are receiving full training. ‘British jobs for British workers’. Our mother of all Parliaments will never hang (oh shit, it’s Nov. 5th today).
The money men won’t like the thought of a hung Parliament.
We have just got much closer to the IMF.
You see Dave; a Europe referendum and our economy are actually linked together very closely.
Hate to say it but I’ve been telling you so all along.
Fuck the Tories. THEY are the true obstacle between the people and proper representation.
Hi Kev, how’s the train driving going?
Gordon Brown’s Personal Job Stimulus FAILS
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/11/03/nokia-siemens-networks-lay-5700.html
The only reason Cameron is struggling now is because he made a promise that labour treachery has made impossible for him to keep.
I am furious with Labour not Tories, Labour promised a referendum, where is it? Surely we can sue them for this?
Tories will make the best of a bad hand – don’t forget this is Blair’s though; who funnily enough wants to be our unelected president.
Time for a full withdrawal from the EU, that should be the referendum question.
“The only reason Cameron is struggling now is because he made a promise that labour treachery has made impossible for him to keep.”
Because Liebor reneged on a promise to hold a referendum Cameron must also renege on his promise to hold a referendum.
WTF???
Cameron said he would not ‘let matters rest’.
He just has.
I am in the process of raising several million Pounds to hold a referendum on whether we should lock the stable door.
One caveat: the horse bolted yesterday.
Do you think this is a good use of my time and money, or would it be better to try to get the horse back first?
Get real, people. This is a new and very unfortunate situation, and wishful thinking is not going to help.
That’s all we have.
BTW, the Tories will win the next election by a comfortable majority. Not many people seem to know that on here.
and dave will be able to do almost nothing without checking if it’s okay with his political masters in the E.U. now
most people do know that
Most people here do indeed know that Blue Labour will win the next election. Unfortunately.
Might as well vote alternative – UKIP or the other one.
Oh well, I’m glad that’s settled then.
OI! TOE RAG! You can’t do a cockney impression with bollocks like BTW. We may move in elevated circles now,but some of us still have the nous to spot a chancer.
Fuck off,and do Tim nice but dim routines
I’d do the nice bits, so that leaves you for dim gig, you painted tart.
Now,don’t get cheeky son.Growing up in Camberwell with a monicker like Maurice,teaches you something about being straight up.
If i came out with BTW down the Old Kent road,i’d have have taken a pasting.
“Never Again” is right; the vague nature of Article 48 of the Lisbon Treaty means they need never have another treaty again as this makes the original Maastricht “self-amending”.
That shiny headed ballbag isn’t promising us anything when he says he won’t be signing any more treaties; he’s merely stating reality.
it’s troll city in here tonight
you would know
you are a sad person; get real this is not about tribalism it is about are freedom.
Standard Conservative attack routine.
Call all Daves doubters trolls.
Next Election cry: “We’re shit,but they’re even worse”
YOU FUCKIN TORY PUSSYS WHERES MY EUSSR VOTE
cast iron cameron has shown he is as competent as brown and as honest as blair. If you think him and his best mate from school can sort out the mess we’re in you’re deluded. He has exposed his total lack of ability. Letting him lead the Tories into the next election would ensure just as big a screw up over the economy as nuliebour. With cast iron cameron in charge there really is no point in voting tory.
The old ladies who swooned over Cameron at the Tory Party conference in preference to ‘hang em and flog em’ David Davies have a lot to answer for.
Thank God for Dan Hannan!
At least someone in the Tory party has some balls and some principles.
I’m confused. When did Dave become Eurosceptic ? He quietly dumped his plan to pull out of the CFP ( common fisheries policy) a few years ago when it was explained to him that it might mean unravelling the EU bit by bit. Owen Patterson who spent 2 years drafting Tory Fisheries policy was quietly sidelined to Transport or something. Dave is a cufflink wearing pro Euro MP and will tell as many lies as he can to get into power. Either don’t vote or vote UKIP.
I’m confused. When did Dave become Eurosceptic ? He quietly dumped his plan to pull out of the CFP ( common fisheries policy) a few years ago when it was explained to him that it might mean unravelling the EU bit by bit. Owen Patterson who spent 2 years drafting Tory Fisheries policy was quietly sidelined to Transport or something. Dave is a cufflink wearing pro Euro MP and will tell as many lies as he can to get into power. Either don’t vote or vote UKIP.
Is this input from twins John and Edward?
Breaking news:
Dan Hannan resigns from frontbench in the European Parliament:
http://www.westbournemouthukip.com/main.htm
I feel the hand of the EU upon my ballsack squeezing tightly, I really do, but now is not the time for soundbites
Dave Blair is a man you can trust
Never Again!
will our arch enemy
brroooonn
be laffing (hi Si its G, is she ok)
please no
I thought what Cameron said was workable , it wasnt a compromise , more like a strategy and Cw finds farrage statement baffling and uncessary and takes the french foreign ministers article with a pinch of salt . Eurosceptic is not some sort of spoiler , it offers a working relationship within the belief that we share common interest . The increase in its costs is not what we need at the moment and i simply dont buy its eutopian panacea style nor its move to unelected (and all the problems of rubbish governance that it useually creates) , any government can look good when awash with money .
The democracy deficiet caused by labour is as expected causing a few shifts , but i hope clear headed thinking returns when it comes to general election , i am sorry too that the ruin has not listened to the people , wich makes me all the more determined in the comming months as the ruins “debt alloy” has no structural benefits , PMqs today again had that wild inflective that it would not be as good under the conservatives , the truth is perhaps that in 3 years it would not have been as good following labour as the conservatives .
poor brillo decided to do a piece for the one show with grand fleet street dame Anne leslie , which was quite interesting , for those who read bill brysons first book the description of a jouranlists life in the 80s , of semi concious afternoons and frenetic deadlines and tub thumping editors , and the daily “launch” of the editions to the masses was exciting stuff . Alas BBc had decided to get right on comedy leftie Ben elton , who thought being as it was a good plug for his new book about the credit cunch , would cut across brillio and refer to him and murdoch as nazis , Cw thought it was bit rich for millionaire writer Ben Elton to be rude being in such a similar business and being as ben has never run a national newspaper , hopes his book does as well as gordons “courage” !
*** Breaking News *****
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/05/daniel-hannan-quits-over-lisbon
Thursday 5 November 2009 01.36 GMT
“Daniel Hannan, the outspoken Conservative MEP for South East England, quit the Conservative frontbench in the European parliament last night in protest at David Cameron’s decision not to give Britain a referendum on Europe for at least four to five years if the Tories win the general election.
Hannan, seen as the new younger leader of the Tory Eurosceptic cause, made the announcement on his Daily Telegraph blog in response to Cameron’s announcement that he would not hold a referendum on the Lisbon treaty.
Hannan had been the party’s legal affairs spokesman for only two months, and secured political notoriety for describing the NHS as a relic and 60-year mistake.”
etc…
Well done Daniel!!!!
Will Gordy be endorsing this ‘literature’?
“We believe that our new cast iron pledge and Law on Europe is tougher than a very tough thing indeed! [gallop,gallop] This eye wateringly tough new Law is to be called “The Stable Door Law” and will ensure [gallop,gallop,gallop] that in maybe 6 or 7 years time, just in time for the next election which makes this statement even more meaningles.. er. I mean TOUGH!, well after I’ve had my Parliament to shit on the Eurosceptics, [GALLOP,GALLOP] this Law will ensure no imaginary treaty that doesn’t even exist will almost certainly be put to a referendum! That is my Tinfoil Guarantee!!
And that Ladies and Gentleman is why on Europe I can be truste…”[GALLOP,GALLOP,GALLOP +SQUUUELLCH!!!!!+]
Poor little sod, that great big fucking horse, that was let out of the stable door galloping about the place, ran straight into him and crushed sad Wavy Davy to death.
anyone read PE Brussels Sprouts if not you should seems things ain’t what Brussels & their friends would have us believe ………… apparently the German Courts have decided that the EU is not democratic & cannot impose laws on its citizens & the Lisbon Treaty has not rectified that
Never Again!
One fucking Bliar was more than enough Dave so NEVER AGAIN!
piss off and grow a pair lest Ken Clarke sit on you and make you blub
In War: Resolution.
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Winston Churchill
How can David Cameron now recite the trust and judgement mantra? He should either promise an in or out referendum or he should never have made the cast iron promise.. looking forward to the polls this weekend – surely this must pull the cons below 40% now as votes will likely hemorrhage towards UKIP.
Congratulations Guido,you managed to get 1000+ comments on this blog tonight. Perhaps all those new posters on the grid were assembled from the 33 members of UKIP to send multple posts.Or perhaps Nulab trolls making mischief
>1000 comments means it is a hot topic !
It doesn’t mean that we are all UKIP or NuLab trolls.
I’m not. I just don’t think Lying Gits, like Gordon Brown and David Cameron.
Slightly off topic:
Since Phil Woolas provoked fury yesterday by claiming British troops are fighting in Afghanistan in part to keep immigration under control (WTF!?) , then may I suggest that we (the UK) – & before full EU state control (as from 1st Dec 2009) – launch immediate attacks and invasions against the top 3 countries were most (UK bound) immigrates come from. So these countries are France, Poland and The Czech Republic ???
This is Woolly Woolas logic after all!
If you wish to delude yourself as to the nature of what is happening before your eyes, that is your business.
There are no UKIP trolls; they are completely unnecessary when a party has such widespread support on the basis of clear policies which appeal to a large number of people.
Labour needs trolls because they have no genuine supporters, and are regarded with loathing by a significant number of people.
I would really like the Tory party to adopt policies which are popular with the electorate. However, the Tories seem to have a very strong death wish.
Ha, Ha suckers. Mission accomplished. It’s now full speed ahead to turn UK into EU Prison state, dumping ground for all rejects from Europe and beyond. Fear not, we’ll provide you plenty of pitch-forks and spades, and watch with glee from our Iron Clad towers in Brussels.
Seriously, this is already happening. Only glimmer of hope is a UKIP vote.
Happy 5th November Guido!( Keep bringing us the news!)
“Remember, remember the 5th of November, gunpowder, treason and plot
I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWoupHvd5GI
Happy Guy Fawkes day to one and all!
Cherish freedom! Fight tyranny! Down with Brown!
Cameron the Blair clone has lied to us all along, he never intended to give us a say on the eurotrash superstate did he?
His promise turned out to be as worthless as Chamberlains piece of paper from Hitler, the fact that the BBC is helping Cameron should tell us something!
Cameron says no more powers will be transferred to the EUSSR without a referendum but conveniently forgets to mention that there are no more powers to give away anymore, the treaty means that any power the eurotrash commissars want they get, the self amending treaty means opt outs are worthless and there will be no more debates in parliament in future because the treaty demands that parliament works for Brussels and parliament now must obey every diktat from Brussels.
Cameron knows all this yet continues to lie about it all, he knows full well that the treaty is the death sentence for our sovereignty and independence, if he gets to be the new regional EU enforcer at the next election he has to put the interests of the EUSSR first ahead of the UK population, the treaty demands that parliament merely enacts the eurolaws and enforces the new occupiers justice, he knows that the treaty demands obedience and total loyalty to the new EUSSR.
Cameron is a satrap regional overlord acting under the orders of the new Franco German superstate, they give the orders and puppets like Cameron jump to it!
Its a wonder that any tory can be fooled by Camerons lies and false promises.
Precisely, CK. There was never any intention of a referendum. CMD has rarely attacked Brown, Blair on anything, ‘cos they’re all following the pied-pipers in Brussels, Bilderberg and BIS (Bank of International Setts.)
RIP UK democracy, unless UKIP are any different.
You can tease a pussy cat for only so long before the claws come out.
If it’s a kid doing the tormenting, he’ll probably run off bawling for mummy to make the scratch better.
If its a sadistic psycho, the cat ends up a mangled, bloody mess.
Cameron’s latest turn is so contemptuous that the New World Order string-pullers must believe that they’re ready to put down the castrated old lion for good and all.
My money’s on the B/N/P to disabuse the treacherous bastards on that score.
So you would prefer him to go through with the charade of a referendum,which, if resulting in a no vote,he would be unable to honour? I am sure he expected the Irish to vote No and leave him a route to take. Once all the member states signed up, it was game set and match to the EU.
A full scale immediate withdrawal is not currently an option because:
1. We have become wedded to the EU more and more each year and the impact of dismantling those links needs to be fully understood.
2. Our economy is screwed and damaging a market where we do 50% of our trade is madness.
Whatever disengagement takes place it will have to be gradual,not a knee jerk reaction.
On the question of honesty -which two parties offered a referendum then voted the treaty through without one? Direct your anger at the right targets?
How are UKIP planning to disengage with the EU? Currently silence on the subject? After all, they have had many years to plan this,so they should be able to share the details with the voters.
How much EU legislation did Cameron pass into law whilst in government? NIL.
Who did? Blair,Brown,
Labour would love this to be Cameron’s fault but it is not. OK,the question remains -what will he do? We do know that both the Lib Dems and Labour will lie and UKIP have yet to say how they will deliver what they promise.
A bit more honesty all round is required I think
Well said sir, the little Englanders should get real. I believe in an ecconomic union but not a federal one. My reason for my view is that of close working with French, Germa and Italian colleages since the 1960’s (now retired) and seeing the benifits of ecconomic co-operation during the good years. It is NuLiebour who have screwed the British public and to witdraw from the union now would be tantermount to ecconomic suicide. DC has difficult choices but now is a time to be pragmatic.
An oddity though: the EU broke down trade barriers and odd market-fiddling.
We might have forgotten what things were like before 1993. We’d never imagine that Germans could ban French drinks these days.
So far, so good. But they won’t let it stop there.
Your reply is based on fear, fear of losing trade, fear of losing money, fear of losing a skirt to hide behind.
Its the politics of fear honed to perfection isnt it? Let me enlighten you a little, independence is not and never was the easy option, a dole queue scrounger parasite has an easy life begging his living off the state but does that make him better off than the worker who struggles every day to make a living to feed and clothe and look after themselves and their families?
Think about it, the tory prinicple of freedom is not an easy option, there are no worthwhile easy options, staying with a bloated undemocratic bag of scum like the eurotrash EU just because it might be a little easier to take their orders and beg scraps from their table is cowardice. Who really buys into the piss weak argument that getting out of a federal superstate isnt possible because we might have to work harder and go without extra comforts, we are a world trading nation, a free proud people who deserve a free independent nation to call our own.
Using the logic of fear, we would have made peace with Napoleon/the kaiser/Hitler because that was the easy and safe option, see where my logic leads? living in a free country is never easy nor should it be either, life should never be easy because we as a people thrive in adversity.
An easier life is no reason to give up our freedom, that is socialism and look where its got us!
Use any other argument for being a subject vassal state but not that one my friend.
Has anyone actually read this Lisbon panoply of shite?
I started to have a go but the print gets smaller as you go down.
Lest we forget, today is Guido’s name day!
Stack ‘em high, son and pass me the matches…
At this rate we may as well make a GB-shaped guy.
wheres CARSWELL?
Near Argleton, just off the M58 on Google Earth.
Meanwhile No 10 responds to petition demanding Brown’s Resignation:
“The Prime Minister is completely focussed on restoring the economy, getting people back to work and improving standards in public services. As the Prime Minister has consistently said, he is determined to build a stronger, fairer, better Britain for all.”
I think you mean a “Broken Britain” for all.
What planet is McTwat on?
Dunno, but he writes similarly to that Benedict’s Reagent or whatever the Fabian twat’s called.
Today is the day when the enlightened ones contemplate Kuan Yin, the Goddess of Mercy.
And the word is that Miliboys is off to be EU High Representative and here’s another snippet -rumour has it that Mandelson will stand in his South Shields Constituency having renounced his title and then take over leadership for one Parliament and then hand it over to Miliboys on his “triumphant return from the EU
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/foreign-policy/miliband-heading-to-europe–$1338777.htm
Where is the real Guy Fawkes when you need him!
One of these is extremely slimy, unpleasant and repugnant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o17dJLou1T0
Is it :-
A. The green slime hurled by the protester
B. The recipient of ‘A’.
Answers please to the House of Lords, London SW1.
Long time lurker here, time for my two penneth.
A question for you UKIP types posting here today (although I smell Walworth Road in many of them). What would you do if you got your referendum and lost? Remember the BBC and most political parties would be in favour. At least the Irish No campaign had a few key issues to use such as neutrality and abortion despite the heavy pressure they came under.
You all seem to think your referendum would result in rejection.
I think some of you need to get out a bit, try tavelling in Europe. Compared to this glorious Sovereign nation they are not doing so bad there. Good infrastructure, German and French Railways are superb, they actually have an energy policy, good education systems especially the Germans…it actually produces what industry needs like engineering graduates. The Germans actually ran a budget surplus before the current crisis unlike bankrupt Britain and they are out of recession…remember they actually make things there. They had a couple of Northern Rocks but nothing like RBS and HBoS. The likes of Spain and Ireland can at least claim their property bubble was down to too low interest rates in the Eurozone not deliberately engineered by their national governments
Most people oppose the EU because of the corrupt nature of Brussels, jobs for the boys and all that but recent events have shown we are no different so we cant hold that over them. Crooked postal voting, political policing, stasi style surveillance…what can the EU do to us that we are not already doing to ourselves?
I used to be a eurosceptic, I still abhor the waste and the stitch up of our fishermen, but I would gladly swap Brown and Darling for some of Angie Merkel’s accountants tomorrow.
The best thing DC can do when he gets into Government is to stop gold plating EU regs and directives. This causes more harm than anything else from the EU, just ask any farmer. Other EU countries just pick out the good bits and paylip service to the rest. Its about time we got smart and stopped trying to be “good Europeans”.
Ok back to lurking. Anyone who wants to shout traitor because I have said something positive about Europe dont bother as I have actually fought for my country unlike the average internet warrior. But I think instead of complaining about the Leader of the Opposition we should remember who it was who snuck in when the cameras had gone to sign the treaty in the first place. If he gets in again you won’t get a referendum anyway.
grow a spine you traitor. you are duty bound to protect the British Constitution not the EU one.
you are talking your way to the gallows you cockroach.
and I am happy to pull the lever.
Lurker,
You make some reasoned, sensible and sober contributions to the debate about Europe and the UK’s place in it.
Unfortunately, order-order.com is not the place for those kind of comments. This website is generally populated by swivel-eyed , anonymous , potty-mouthed web jockeys. They like to make blood-curdling threats but really, we all know the hard talk is just that….
I studied constitutional and European law for four long years. The basis of the UK state is the sovereignty of parliament. Not any Act of a previous Parliament nor a referendum can legally bind Parliament’s will (of course, Parliament may well not wish to enact a law on the basis that it is political suicide e.g. Dicey’s ‘blue-eyed baby’ proposition).
So all Cameron’s proposals to waste parliamentary time and taxpayers’ money passing these ‘cast-iron guarantees’ is complete psoturing politics.
Agreed Scooby.
I don’t know why Cameron is even bothering to get into this debate. The treaty will have been in force for a good 6 months before the next election. All this debate does is make it look like he’s the one who refused to have a referendum and not the Government who pledged it in their manifesto and signed the treaty.
Woohooo!
1st post and insulted by TwAT already!
Do I get a badge or something?
I have no badges, but I’m giving you the Order of the Ordure, for taking a hit so soon.
Rubbish.
French, German and everyone else’s infrastructure is currently being run into the ground and sold off on the basis of the success of the UK pilot scheme.
You need to get out more.
I get out quite a lot actually
But you better tell the Government that as our energy policy seems to be based on European gas storage facilities and French nuclear power.
Equal trading with Europe is fine but it’s not equal trading. You mentioned energy. Our essential utilities are owned by the French and Germans. They wouldn’t allow any British company to buy their essential utilities.
The EU Army will consisit of British troops ( if there is any fighting to be done as in Afghanistan). What happened after the Madrid bombings ? The Spanish removed their troops from Afghanistan. What did the Italians do in Afghanistan ? They paid the Taliban not to fight them. Forgetting to tell the French who took over their area and immediately took casualties from Taliban who weren’t getting paid off anymore.
Oh and the Germans don’t venture into any dangerous areas. They sit drinking and watching tv.
And never go out in the dark!
I see Roger Helmer MEP is also resigning from the front bench according to Conservative Home.
Why doesn’t DC simply give the majority of the people in the UK want? That is a referendum on staying in the EU or getting out. Simple, done and dusted.
Why didn’t Brown give the majority of the British people the referendum on the Lisbon Treaty that was promised in the Labour Manifesto? Cameron has no power at present, he is not the Prime Minister, Cameron is trying to make the best of a bad situation, which has been caused by Brown. Brown has a lot to answer for as usual but we all know Brown never answers questions.
Lizzie you are right Cameron is dog knotted as is any other party leader wanting to get rid of this treaty(constitution).
The castigation he is receiving from many angles is unfair. Those complainants don’t seem to offer any constructive solution to this National problem,they should work it through after getting their brains into gear,and they will no doubt come to similar conclusions as the Tories.
This is a monumental problem,an desperate situation created by an inept Labour Government . We are all dogknotted.
The wonderful and juicy fact is , only Independence for Scotland, Wales, England and NI could sort it all out :-
Referendum now!!!!
To those of you misguided souls who have written that you are going to vote Ukip.
I was once within Ukip. It is, believe me, a rag tag and bobtail outfit with fourth, no fifth rate politicians. Most of those in the EU would not get elected as a parish councillor.
Ask yourselves just what Ukip have achieved within the EU. They have certainly taken every euro they can. Some had to be thrown out of the EU MEP’s group for fraud!! committed whilst within this wonderful democratic party (IF you believe what people are writing here!).
Farage! Now cometh the hour cometh the man. An empty barrel making the most noise. Can you imagine him ever listening to anyone? He is a legend in his own mind. He once told a close friend (within Ukip) that he would only attend a public meeting in the West Country if it could be guaranteed an audience of AT LEAST 200!! The man is a dreamer.
Farage apart, name me ONE person within Ukip who will be standing for Parliament and their personal achievements!
And some misguided fools on this blog are going to vote for the modern equivalent to Screaming Lord Sutch’s Monster raving Looney party – at least they were fun- Farage’s little cabal spell trouble!
YOU vote Ukip if you want to. A pointless exercise in the grand scheme of things. You may as well vote for the BNP, at least they are far more active locally than the one issue, one thought party Ukip!
Ukip the party for the braindead.
Vote for Labour = more EU
Vote for Conservative = more EU (but pretend otherwise)
Vote for LibDem = more EU
We have been strongarmed into an EU state we never wanted or were asked about, using stealth and subterfuge.
I’m one of those crazy flat-earthers who rather wants to live in a free country where we govern ourselves, and there isn’t anything much more important than that.
Along with many others, I’ve nothing to lose now by voting UKIP or BNP.
Well said that man, UKIP can only offer hot air especially Ngel Barrage who is a (I)
This party will never be in a position to do or change anything,lightweights!
Happy 5th November
David Cameron is WRONG, and, he will pay a very heavy price.
The British electorate have see enough smoke and mirrors in British politics over the past years without supporting more of the same.
The UK electorate gave you a chance David Cameron, you and your pathetic party failed them on the ultimate test.
To keep a simple promise!
The British do not trust Brussels to be fair with our national interests.
Forget the Lisbon Treaty, Cameron has to promise an IN or OUT referendum on Europe otherwise many people will vote UKIP.
Our European partners are not going to stop trading with us just because we are out of the EU.
What nonsense!
None of the other members of the EU are going to waste their time with Dave & Co being disruptive on the sidelines, that’s IF they ever get into power.
The EU, lead by France and Germany, will simply say to Dave & Co that your membership is a binary decision for you. Make your mind up once and for all because we are bored stiff with your whingeing from the sidelines.
Are you IN or OUT.
If you want to stay in, then act your age and work towards becoming a valued member of the club with the respect that goes with it and then you just might get enough cred to tinker with the rules.
If you want to leave, then do so, the quicker the better and don’t bother us again.
Simples…
Don’t blame Dave for the fact that we can’t now have a referendum on Lisbon, Gordon is the one who poisoned the water.
GE 2010 – any vote other than Conservative is a vote for Labour and we don’t want that lying bunch of incompetent hoons back in for another 5 years or we’ll all be sorry.
A vote for Cameron is to replay the last decade under Bliar.
Don’t do it.
Hague being grilled by Eamonn on Sky, so he is nye.
No better than his last ‘cast iron’ guarantee. Thatcher & Blair both signed away sovereignty and any future PM will come up with weasel words to do the same again if they want. I wouldn’t trust the sods with a ha’penny. Manifestos and promises are worth nothing these days. Just as well politicians don’t come knocking on doors any more because I’d be tempted to lynch them.
Just wondering if some of the conservative supporters are looking across the Jordon and seeing a John Major government riven with division. I’m not going to keep the faith this time around..
roll on the weekend polls and lets see the damage David Cameron’s miscalculation has caused.
1. Gordon and Blair got us into this mess
2. People looked to David Cameron to get us out of it
3. Now it is ratified, voters will look to the only parties that will dissolve it, the UKIP and B & P
i think broon is a pretty cool guy. eh sells ihs gold reserves and doesn’t afraid of anything.
God rot you flabby arsed exd-public schoolboys. You’re much the same as champagne swilling socialist shits today – only interested in troughing as much as you can.
You need a huge swing to get an overall majority but the smaller parties are going to fuck it for you. Your votes are haemorrhaging away as fast as Labour’s. You’ll be lucky to get 200 squeaky arses into power now.
If UKIP are ‘Lightweights’ could you please explain what I’m looking at on the Conservative front bench? All this ‘talk’ will get you nowhere except the EUSR, so the question is ‘ what are you going to do about it? Coz you’d better do it quick before the EUSR makes any negative comment illegal, its already been suggested once. So be warned! Either vote Labour and watch them finish the project , or vote UKIP, who will do the job for them just as well, of course you can always trust the Conservative ‘front bench’!
Lord Snooty – please just fuck off you coward. If our military forces were made of in-bred, Mr Punch faced drips like you, we wouldn’t have a country. Never has the UK been in greater need of a revolution.
I do believe that Cameron has drastically shot himself in the foot on this occasion. His first “cast iron guarantee” appears to have a couple of holes in it Dear Liza!
However what shocks me more is that I’ve yet to see at least one airbrushed pic of Guy Fawkes with Gordon’s face on it, with the title….”the man who really destroyed Parliament”.
Don’t get me wrong; I would love the German/French infrastructure networks. I admire the way that French farmers stand up for themselves. In fact there is a lot to admire and adopt of our European counterparts.
But we do not need to submit our soverignty in doing so.
I think what gaulls me most though has to be the promises given to the British public (now SADLY by both major parties) of a referendum, only for them to be revoked.
Those people and politicians who really believe the rewording of constitution to Treaty must take the lot of us for retarded (or as Pierre Lellouche may say Autistic!) mugs.
The Tory party will win the next election, but will undoubtedly have lost votes as a result. God forbid we get a Hung Parliament…..we could really consider ourselves European then!!
David Cameron a liar like all the rest ,afraid of Europe.I have seen more backbone in a fish supper .
Greater love hath no politican than that he would shaft his country, in the sure and certain hope that he may be rewarded with a cushty Euro sleaze sinecure!!
Never Again will I vote Conservative.
Never again
Never again – again – and again.
Now we are apart of the Holy Roman Empire does that mean no more Bonfire Night?
Cameron will be salivating at the prospect of making multiple reforms within the UK and blaming it on the EU. For example – a core aim for the EU is a harmonisation of labour markets, yet the UK’s minimum wage is much higher than most EU countries (Germany doesn’t even have one). If it was harmonized across the EU it couldn’t possibly be more than £3ph (adults). When this happens presumably welfare benefits will have be much lower as otherwise they would exceed the minimum wage. Result: British society is “transformed” and Cameron can blame the EU – “Not my fault, you know what I think of those pesky Eurocrats!”.
Vote “Official Monster Raving Loony Party”.
There isn’t much of a choice otherwise.
Rule 1 Anything is permissable in order to further the state agenda, except been in la la land or off with the fairys, poor old Gordon Brown had a psychotic episode and has become detached from reality he has lost the noble art of waffling and cannot even make a desicion on what biscuit to dunk in his beverage, he has constant temper tantrums and hides away in the closets vacated by Mandelsons various associates when under pressure.
A marxist or anybody that follows rule 1 for a extended period of time will suffer all kinds of various mental breakdown, the constant snot gobbling on the minor lies and jaw drop on the whoppers is overtaking his actual vocabluary unlike red ken who has been care in the political community for many years and has a constant fixed expression because Ken really does believe he is telling the truth all of the time.
Rule 1 has a lot to answer for in the political arena because it removes the checks and balances and destroys the moral compass, nearly everything Brown has been involved with has been a disaster, his signature on anything should be null and void because of his condition.