Cameron References the Jonah Jinx
Yesterday in the chamber Cameron made a jibe that Tony Blair’s campaign to become EU president was going well until the moment the Prime Mentalist backed him, ensuring the “curse of the one eyed son of the manse” doomed Blair’s ambitions.
The more significant evidence of the curse and something that is symbolic of the end of the twentieth century Anglo-American dominance of the world, is the purchase by the Indian Central Bank of 200 tonnes of gold from the IMF. The Indian Central Bank paid an average of $1040 per ounce, Gordon and Balls sold the Bank of England’s gold at an average of $275 an ounce. So cack-handed were the gold sales that Brown and Balls gave advance notice to the gold market and the trade is now famously known as “the Brown Bottom”. It was an act of short-term, self inflicted imprudence that has cost untold billions.
As quantitative easing drives the dollar and pound down in value the cost of that blunder becomes clearer. India is heading towards becoming the new English speaking superpower and Britain is heading towards becoming a bankrupt state with a devalued currency. Gordon has jinxed generations to come with government debt…
It gets worse everyday.
every hour
I bet the Indians used dollars and sterling to buy that gold. No point holding on to those rapidly devalueing pieces of bog roll.
It’s not incompetence, it is all deliberate.
Vote all the treasonous mainstream traitors out next May!
I am the devalued Prime Minister.
http://cardiffblogger.co.uk/archives/why-i-left-the-conservative-party/comment-page-1#comment-1534
Old Holborn That’s a bad link Code 500 error.
Q: How many Gordon Browns does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. “I’m getting on with the job!”
Soon the poorest 25% of the Indian population will be richer than the richest 25% of us.
EU-turn if you want to:
http://www.westbournemouthukip.com/content/splash/splash21.jpg
” The Brown Balls cock-up” might be more accurate.
English speaking super power my arse ! I’m willing to bet that the GDP per head in India isn’t much more than $2k compared to $35k + in the UK and the West . I know the UK has been turned to shit under Labour but you must have spent all weekend on the bong with Professor Nutt if you think India is on the cusp of becoming a developed nation.
The richest 25 million people in India are far richer than the richest 25 million in the UK.
Lets face it we are stuck in Afghanistan, What are lads going to do when they run out of bullets, Fight with Sticks. The Guardian reports that 12.7 million have arrived as migrants to our shores, shame Bliar thought it a good idea to Bomb and Kill their families in the middle East and Afghanistan, that will cause enough trouble and dissent to fuel their Police State, Oh I forgot who the f-ck is going to pay for it though, Never thought of that one did you you fu-k wits
I understood that the British government had been GIVING money to India.
I make that about USD$ 6.258 billion. Sounds a good deal to me as the dollars are so much toilet paper now.
Since Gordon sold about 400 tonnes way-back-when, that indicates that another $13.6 billion would have been available now. This will have to be added to the acount to be settled in full by all the GramscoFabiaNazis who have been deliberately destroying us, before they will be allowed to die naturally. Where are we up to now, about 6 trillion?
Well he did buy other stuff with the money (or so he claims). Apparently the BoE bought Dollars, Euros and Yen with the proceeds of Brown’s idiotically pre-announced sale. He might have scored a bit with the Euros but my guess is that gain was more than wiped out by losses on the Dollar. At best the country didn’t lose too much.
Of course, if he’d held onto the gold, Britain would now be significantly better off.
30 billion more the mans a wanker
More like 39 Billion but when it gets to this level my monopoly money is worth more than UK currency. This is crazy RBS and Lloyds come Nov 5th need to be atop the bonfire.
What a Hoon
Hour? It just got worse then.
and…
then.
Worse again. Fucking Gordon.
Practice the art of Zenn Buddism and attempt to reach a stage of trancendental peace or, alternatively, drink, drink & drink some more as me & my liver have been doing now for a good few years.
Wat Tyler’s got a nice little graph that will cheer you up!!
http://burningourmoney.blogspot.com/
Gee, thanks a bunch.
Now I feel really depressed.
Brown and Bliar should be shot for treason.
isnt there any shady eastern Europeans that can do that whats the going rate
for the job
Send them on a trip tp India. The going rate there is £500
Unfortunately we can’t afford the bullets – it will have to be a bayonet charge.
Shooting is too quick – bayonet charge in slow time preferable – and then only with lots of little prods to start with.
But hey! – call on me if things don’t work out – ‘cos I’d love to straighten things out with those horrible little f uckers!
I’m back, any piggies about?
Sniffle, sniffle. You bastard.
opportunity to find out if canabis can be fatal
It’d be fatal if you dropped fucking great bales off the stuff on top of them from a helicopter.
We dont have any spare helicopters
Good point. No helicopters. If we use a hemp rope to hang ‘em does that count as being killed by cannabis?
You only need a length of rope. Nothing too elaborate, is it? Then cut their treasonous heads off, dip them in tar and mount them on that vacant plinth at Trafalgar Square as a warning to others.
Agreed, but there is still 26% – 29% of jokers supporting this sorry excuse for a government it beggars belief.
They are the ‘Captive Base’, they depend upon our largesse.
They know no different, and you are better just accepting it.
There will be folk who actually believe that Brown is competent?
Over 25% of the population are now on strong medication due to Gordon.
Correct. This is the % vote built in by Labour gerrymandering. It is very unlikely that we will see a lower change in the figures we now have for voting intentions which will be around 26% at the GE. Most of these are on the public payroll, benefits, ‘disability’ etc and a few die hard ”my dad voted Labour and so will I’ type dipsticks.
IMHO of course
Please remember that this is only 25-29% of people who stated that they are SURE TO VOTE. that equates to actally 12 – 16% of the overall electorate. Last time 40% of the electorate did not vote.
There are enough people who are so utterly pissed off with ALL of the mainstream parties, that they should be informed that they are the majority view now. Tell them to get out and vote. They can have GREAT FUN Sacking the current, corrupt thieving bunch of MPs!
Yep, Cameron needs to annouce that people with surnames starting with a letter from A to M can continue to suck on the nation’s teat ad infinitum whilst those with surnames N to Z can go screw themselves. A promise like that should reduce our costs by 50% and at the same time guarantee a 13% increase in the Tory vote. Time to make socialist jerrymandering work for us.
I can explain the reasoning why 25% are on medication.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OlPrySsjgY
I have an hour long version of this, hell if Id kept going I could have made it days long but theres only so much info you can cram into a single dvd.
I like that plan, Fred.
I think you’ll find that that 26% – 29% or on the payroll.
Oops
are on the payroll.
Beheaded. After a fair trial. Christmas Day is traditional, and if you move sharpish there’d still be time for the Great Escape after lunch.
Between the Queen and Eastenders?
Don’t mind beheading the Eastenders cast but not the Queen.
Instead of Eastenders, please. It would be much happier viewing.
Bollocks to the Queen. She’s no better if the truth be known. Traitors the lot of them.
Have you come far?
Indeed where is our Monarch. Does she not care that her subjects have been sold as slaves to Brussels? Thought not.
It hasn`t helped that the opposition has hardly opposed once. the only thing that comes to mind are ID cards and hunting (and the ID card thing was davis not dave). Dave even stopped the tory conference last yea to say he agreed with Gordon about the banks, Dave made the Torys cheer blair when he left parliament, Dave supported Iraq and afghanistan and it is Dave who has reneged on his cast iron guarantee of holding a Euro election.
Call Me Dave’s going to have an uncomfortable time when the Czechs cave in and he has to ‘fess up on what he is going to do about a referendum.
already have
Let me see, shall I vote for a blue EU puppet, a red EU puppet, a yellow EU puppet, or a candidate that will represent MY views in Parliament and try to get OUR country back from under the yoke of corrupt unelected foreign dictators?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Dave upset by the prospect of TB in as Presidente.
Complains robustly. Told to cease all the Referendum talk in return for a deal.
Brown backs TB, kiss of death. Deal is that TB is given the NON from Sarko.
TB is to be paid a huge pay-off. Cherie Antoinette is happy, as she can then shove as much cake in her slot gob as possible.
Cherie looking forward to more naked showers with more ladies.
Happy that the ‘Golden Couple’ are earning more than any other ex Pollie in the World.
EU happy that no Referendum is going to take place in the UK.
The French and Dutch No was embarrasing but they covered that.
Irish made to vote until they got the answer right.
Cameron gets to be chief lamp post counter and bin monitor in the newly empowered Westminster.
Brown commits suicide. A la Kelly?
Apparently he’s prepared to do …….NIXY!
“Cast Iron Dave” has just stated that he will announce his new – or should I say latest – position on a referendum by the end of this week…..
I can’t think that CMD wants to win. He’s doing everything possible to avoid it.
I don’t blame him but he has used delaying tactics to stifle ukip.
We can not live under an unelected federal lying regime. If true about india it is more reason to remain flexible to trade and share travel, knowledge etc without EU hindrance.
. . . what Opposition . . ?
Weren’t us guv . .
Are the Indians using the money they get from the UK government/dfid to buy the gold?
No the £660million in aid to India this year is earmarked for buying our steel companies, developing their space programme, building more nukes and developing a greener car manufacturing company.
Money is fungible, so yes it has bought the gold that Gordon sold.
Thank goodness. I thought we were just giving the stuff away.
Labourites are by nature re-distributionists. But whereas once upon a time they redistributed from rich to poor within the UK, the Nu Labourites now redistribute from UK non-poor to the developing countries. They have totally abandoned their core constituency and murdered the middle classes to boot.
Don’t know, but it seems that India are buying at the top of the market just as Gordo sold at the bottom of the market. So both governments are equally fuckwitted. It follows from this that if we carry on with Gordo and his Indian style goverment we will soon all be living on the central reservation of the M4.
OT
This Afghan business, how come it is very bad to hold a crooked election and very good to hold no election? Then agai gordon does not like elections either.
So all our troops who died protecting the election have given their lives for nothing. GORDON YOU ARE A MURDERING CUNΤ
They have not given their lives for nothing.
Yhey gave them to prop up the world’s biggest heroin and opium production facilities and to prop up a man who legalised rape and to prop up a corrupt regime that rigged the election and is led by a de facto dictator.
THAT is what they gave their lives for. To prop up a corrupt, rape enabling, narcotics trafficking, dictator.
Don’t it make ya proudern’shit!
Oh and to prop up an afghan president….
Today the main news is that The Czech Republic will ratify the Lisbon Treaty,leaving Cameron with a huge problem.Furthermore Darling’s plan for the bank has been well received.An opinion poll shows Labour doing very well in the Glasgow North East by election.Alan Johnson cheered by the Tories in Parliament.I could go on but wont . As you see all this has been ignored for the sake of an obscure story about India.Well done for being so topical??????
“Darling’s plan for the bank has been well received.”
Seeing as it is what the banks have been telling him to do all along, that would be the same kind of “well received” that a juvenile chav who has a record of 500 burglaries gets when he says he will cut down on the amount of burglaries he will commit. That kind of “well received”.
How come we give India Aid. If they can buy Gold and spend billions on Nukes and Space exploration.
There should be an investigation into Aid and whether there is any benefit to the UK or more importantly whether the corrupt politicians are trousering money from it.
I feel like I have been muigged everytime I leave the house, this time by a Scottish blind twat who plays saving the World.
I have asked the above question to Cameron today, if I do not get a satisfactory answer I will be running for parliament as an independent on a ticket of chairty begins at home.
For fuck sake any more of Mc Twat and Inida will be sending us fucking aid.
I don’t think we can afford any aid at the moment.
If we were to receive aid from India, say, £50,000,000, we’d first have to create a massive new government department to receive, process and administer the aid. The cost to the tax payer? How about £50,000,000? The result? The creation of more non-job civil servants who, when the aid has stopped will still want to be sent home on full pay and full pension.
Can’t Brown GET Aids?
And gordon throws another thirty billion squid of taxpayers money at lloyds and RBS. This man is a criminal, why won`t the police arrest him?
I think the Tories squandered £2 billion on trying to prop up the £ until it was ejected out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992. Even if that is about £5 billion in today’s money it’s still fuck all compared to what the one-eye snot gobbler is throwing around.
It was actually 7bn in 1992, I think you’ll find. Bloody expensive being in EUrope!
So probably double that today, but at least some of it came from reserves, rather than new borrowing.
They never lost any money, the Bank of England never took a loss it just averaged out the position and managed it, selling sterling when sterling recovered against the DM.
What should alo be taken into account is the boost stimulus the ejection from the straightjacket gave
Have you actually been to India?
I’ve been to India. And I wouldn’t send a dog I hated there to die.
Awful place. Grinding poverty, 120dB ‘music’ blaring out everywhere. Lepers accosting you in the street for money.
Taj Mahal is nice though. And there’s a red sandstone arch like the Arc de Triomphe in Delhi that has the names of 60 or 70,000 Indians who gave their lives for the British Empire in WW1 that made me think.
But overall a thoroughly depressing place. It makes you realise how lucky you were to be born white.
We send them Millions of Pounds in aid and the fuckers buy gold with it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/18/douglasalexander-development
We send them Millions of Pounds in aid and the fuckers buy gold with it.
Yes that does seem rather strange. Quite what Gordon’s cunning plan there is taxes the brain somewhat. They seem to have a rather well advanced space and nuclear weapon program too.
I really do not want any more of my hard earned taxes supporting such things.
Brown announces ‘Aid Package’ to Monaco, Abu Dhabi, and the Caymans!
Considers relief support for Singapore, Kuwait, Brunei, and Palm Island.
“They are desperate for our help” stated Mr Brown.
And added “India, and China are doing really well after our humanitarian and fiscal Intervention.”
He said later ” I am the only person who can sell the World”
Didn’t the Indians also buy Blue Streak back in the 70s?
And Jaguar.
I sold mine as soon as TATA got a hold of it.
I didn’t buy one in the first place. More unreliable pieces of garbage lashed together by folk still hankering after the ‘golden days’ and work-practices of British leyland.
Yet another load of bollocks from jgm2 below – the epitom of an ignorant pillock.
Jaguar currently tops the JD Power 2009 reliability survey, beating Lexus.
Excellent British product envied the world over. And a brand that continues to make a major contribution to the coffers of this bankrupt country populated by sneering little twats like you doing their best to destroy them.
But don’t let the facts interrupt your lies.
Which 2009 JD Power survey is that then?
Cos the UK one has Jaguar in 5th place.
Enjoy your Jag.
the Canadian one has them tied with lexus in first place. The British one I have just looked at had them in fourth place.
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/jd-power-owner-satisfaction-2009/executive-luxury/240819
I have a long-standing love affair with Jags and have owned loads of ‘em. However, there were models produced at various times throughout the marque’s history that have been of dubious reliability. There was a period in the early years of this decade when I saw disturbingly large numbers of them on the back of breakdown vehicles. I hope they’ve sorted themselves out again since.
Well jgm..I’ve had 5 Jags over the last decade..and they’ve been more reliable than the junk BMW’s I had before them.
If they’re so fucking reliable how come you’ve had five in the last decade?
I’ve had two second hand cars in the last decade and, apart from oil, filter and tyres and 100K miles they’ve been as reliable as hell. New car lasts two years without major mechanical failure. Shock fucking horror.
Unless you were buying Landrovers in which case two weeks without major mechanical failure would be a bonus.
Try Nagin Lake in Srinigar, or the Rajastan desert. The Taj is just for tourists.
I agree, but the Taj is still impressive.
An old chum of mine always wanted to visit the Taj; it was one of his all-time aims in life. He never made it, though, sadly. The site of all those crippled beggars and neglected, homeless orphans along the way moved him to tears and he was forced to turn back for fear of losing his sanity. Shame.
The Taj is for tourists? Well, yeaaaaah – still pretty impressive though.
The best part of India is the departure lounge.
The departure lounge at Delhi is awful. Actually I liked India and the Indians who were open, friendly and intelligent. I listened to a guide talk about their politicians and couldn’t help struck by how exactly as bad as ours they sounded. Despite the obvious poverty and lack of hygiene, the worst aspect was the officiousness of almost anyone in uniform.
You need lots of small denomination notes for the beggars. I ran out one day and had to give some coins. The gentleman gave me an impressive, sarcastic bow. It is the only time I have been belittled in such a suave manner.
The departure lounge at Heathrow is awful. Actually I liked England and the English who were open, friendly and intelligent. I listened to a guide talk about their politicians and couldn’t help struck by how exactly as bad as ours they sounded. Despite the obvious poverty and lack of hygiene, the worst aspect was the officiousness of almost anyone in uniform.
You need lots of small denomination notes for the beggars. I ran out one day and had to give some coins. The gentleman gave me an impressive, sarcastic bow. It is the only time I have been belittled in such a suave manner.
Martian, it must have been a jolly long time ago you visited England. The English aren’t friendly intelligent and open any longer. 60 years of Leftieism have seen to that.
I find Rajastan a bit too dusty, Kerala is my destination of choice. Have been thinking about building a villa out there for years, prevaricating has seen land prices quadruple.
Quadruple? From 100 quid to 400 quid presumably. Kerala is a communist state if I remember rightly. Only good bit of Kerala is Trivandrum. Direct flights to the Maldives.
Lovely.
A villa?!? You’ll be writing for the Guardian next and banging on about poverty.
Naaah. he’ll be writing in the Gurdian banging on about ‘global warming’ and how ‘unnecessary’ airline travel should be heavily taxed. So that him and Polly don’t have to share the plane with the little people.
OH will be retiring to either Antigua or Paniji in Goa.
I’m not staying here to be beaten to death by hoodies high on crack and DHSS cheques.
Quadruple? From 100 quid to 400 quid presumably. Kerala is a communist state if I remember rightly. Only good bit of Kerala is Triv*ndrum. Direct flights to the Maldives.
Lovely.
OH – If you’re thinking Caribbean – and I am – then French Caribbean is the way to go. Health care all thrown in – low crime (cos the locals get French rates of unemployment benefit), food all supplied from France so cheap booze and food plus you get your revenge on the French for the EU by poncing off the French state for a change.
Guadeloupe mate. Lovely. And St barths. And St Maarten. Martinique is good too but less decent beaches.
Direct flights from Paris four times a day plus you won’t get fucked over by the idiots at BA going on strike.
So you do wear white socks with sandals Guido.
OH, I’d try before you buy. Never just move anywhere to retire without living there for at least a year first as a visitor. I’ve done the Caribbean Ting and it’s not all it’s cracked up to be – often for reasons you’d never have imagined before you live there.
That’s a ridiculous comment…have you actually been anywhere else in India? There are beautiful, romantic and fulfilling places – much nicer than some of our “multi-cultural” havens in the UK. You get out of the cities and you will find abject poverty in places; but you will also find happiness, true and strong family values. Notwithstanding the fact that they have never heard of Balls, Harman, Fondlebum etc….Bliss!
BTW, the Taj Mahal is ghastly….ruined by all the goddam yank tourists in their strange shorts calling the place “qaint”!
Delhi, Jaipur, Bombay, Varanasi and Trivandrum. Trains, planes, buses and automobiles. More than enough for one lifetime.
So JGM – is India better or worse than Scotland….??
India is worse. I’d live in Scotland before I’d live in India.
I live in Sotland – and I want out.
I’ll swap you….
That’s another problem, too many Scots want to work in the British government.
Delhi, Jaipur, Bombay, Varanasi and Triv*ndrum. Trains, planes, buses and automobiles. More than enough for one lifetime.
WTF? Triv*ndrum gets modded?
Well those are all the right places to form the wrong impression. It is a glorious place – finding its pride and dealing with problems we can only imagine. Give ‘em some credit!
Are you talking about India or Southall?
Yes.
The iconic British brands of Jaguar and Land Rover are now owned by Tata Motors, an Indian conglomerate which turns over £15 billion a year. In Britain they own Corus, which was formerly British Steel, Tetley Tea and a number of up market London hotels and most recently in the news for launching the Nano, the world’s cheapest car.
Many times. When was the last time you were there?
I’m after tinking yous is not the son of the auld sod. I’ve a mind to introduce them Brit ID card tings and keep undesirables the feck out. We’ve only so much much cash to loot here and we don’t need pukkah plastic paddies taking the piss.
Fair play to Ireland. They noticed that too many of their yo-yo knickered young ladies were coming back from Tunisia with Sayeed and Mohammed and poping out a brown baby and moved very quickly to deny citizenship to the spouses of their own citizens thus avoiding the avalanche of relatives we have enjoyed in the UK.
It means my missus can’t get an Irish passport but my kids are squared away.
Never been there, never want to go. If Indian food is anything to go by it must be a shit hole and 12 years of this Nuliebor government has ruined us down below their level.
That’s what I like a fair and unbiased opinion.
FFS they are more Brirish than the British, they wear suits and ties, speak and write the queens English they have doctors, engineers, graduates spewing out all over the world at tenth of the cost of Europeans.
FFS they built Dubai, Abu Dhabi, they’re like little ants taking over the planet. Kingfisher beer, they play cricket and run the Tote at Mumbai racecourse, they own Jaguar, Land Rover, British Steel but now they’re leaving the UK in droves because they can’t stand immigrants.
Don’t underestimate the new self-regard of the Indians.
They are not too please that Ford shipped out the five-year old Fiesta to be built in India. They say they’re pissed off with Euro-hand downs.
That’s why Nissan is launching its new supermini next year simultaneously in China, India and Thailand, before it arrives in Europe.
My great fear for the hopelessly badly educated mass of British is the Indian middle graduate. They’ll wipe the floor with us. Ironically, they’ll do this by taking advantage of old-school English education of the kind nearly dead here.
I spend a lot of time with nationalities of all sorts and I find middle class Indians the least ‘foreign’ to me. Pity about India, though. I went there a couple of years ago on an analysts trip and found it really disturbing.
The poor roadside villages on the way to the Tata car factory were hard to bear.
Mind you, I also got to stay in the Taj, which was a different matter.
you were very lucky; it’s a mausoluem with no bedrooms.
How the F did you stay in the Taj? You a Muslim then?
Some bloke once told me the British nicked loads of semi-precious stones from the ceilings of the Taj during the Raj. Is there any truth in that?
You f*cking bullsh*tter. you’ve never been to India in your life and clearly you know f*ck all about education in India.
There’s only one British style school left in India – India is even more corrupted by socialism than this basket case of a country we live in.
They built Dubai in the same way that Irish navvies built the canals you moron.
Don’t forget Lal Toofan, Inidan rice beer! Delicious!
B’asterd they may well be more British than the British, especially if you check out that satirical programme “Goodness Gracious Me” so what? Merely stating that the country must be a shit hole. Disgustingly hot climate or continuous rain, curry and other spices are shit, imho, hence the food is yuk. So why should I want to go there?
The Indian people may be very clever, I don’t dispute that but it just goes to show how Nuliebor have let our economy down the pan ove rthe last 12 years where we can’t even produce our own toilet cleaners let alone engineers etc.
Yup, each time I go to any UK city.
I hear its lovely this time of year:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=432_1257223111
Wembley is the posh end. Since when was Wales in England?
My point was that the Indian economy still relies mainly on very cheap labour and only to a small extent on technology or manufacturing ability, so it is not well equipped to become a dominant economic power. Its propserity still relies too much on the prosperity of the West and Japan.
Simple arithmetic, is it easier to make one billion pounds from one person or make one pound from a billion persons.
FFS it doesn’t matter how cheap their labour or how small their technology or manufacturing ability is, there is over 1,000,000,000 of them and they all want cars and mobile phones.
The Indians have got their heads screwed on though, haven’t they? I mean they get all this aid from us and trade with us and then spend it all on nukes and a space programme. Poverty there is still as rife as it ever was and yet they don’t give a shit about the poor. No socialism there! I wonder what it would cost to hire them to run Britain for us? They’d surely be better at it than our own incumbent shower of shite.
Jesus, read some bloody India history for God’s sake! Socialism and outright communism is rife in India and has been since independence.
Poverty was almost solved in the 70s thanks to the green revolution then the daft buggers started breeding like rabbits and they were back to square one again.
Don’t worry.
We are now part of the EUSSR. We are protected.
And better news still, our future PM who gives “cast iron guarantees”, has proved he will be more of the same.
Porritt claims to be sustainable, the UK needs to have a population of no more than 30 million. The good news is we are headed to 70 million by 2050, probably an underestimate. Why good? Because we can keep the property bubble alive and well. Debt is wealth after all.
Yes, sadly we are fooked. But we can all go down together singing “with a little bit of luck”.
How quickly the Roman Empire fell. How quickly the British Empire fell.
Churchill was correct. Our finest hour has been and gone in 1940.
The Roman Empire lasted hundreds of years and didn’t ‘fall’ until it lost Constantinople to the religion of peace.
By contrast the British Empire lasted, at best, 150 years and has been in a tail-spin since 1914.
Best have a word with Gibbon over the title of his volumes “The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire”
Soon to be accompanied by “The Rise and Fall of the Labour Party”
Read our Boris on Rome – he puts down the death throes of its civilisation to their mistaken adoption of christianity.
I’ve read that theory someplace too. Not sure it was Boris who came up with it.
I always thought it was because the Roman state gave it’s people too many paid holidays (Sick pay, maternity pay, paternity pay) & bureaucracy (non-jobs) and relied on slavery too much (Like a high income tax).
It’s totally different now.
In fact it was Gibbon who suggested it – rightly or wrongly.
It didn’t decline. It simply moved its HQ to Constatinople/Istanbul. The size of the new empire centred on Istanbul was about the same as the size of the old Roman empire, but places like Italy fond themselves on the fringes of the new empire and fell to the barbarians, just as the barbarians had kept the Romans out of Germany – lines of communication too long you see. The empire then continued to thrive for another 400 years until the Mooslems started slicing their heads off. They then moved back up into the Balkans and distributed themselves within what is now the area under the orthodox churches.
Meanwhile old blighty looks more like ancient Greece than the Romans – British cultural hegemony continues apace long after the fall of empire itself, thanks to spreading the English lingo at the point of a gun.
Read our Gordon, “How to fuck up everything.”.
Yeah, but ours was bigger! It said so in the Victor comic.
23 million new Indian babies born every year. Phew.
If they’re babies they pretty much have to be new.
It’s wealth* per person that counts dummy.
*The ability of a person to add value to a society and keep the rewards.
*Like in Gordon’s case.
I wish Labour all the best in next year’s General Election.
cos I’ll be gorn, gorn, gorn by then . .
Shush, I haven’t told him yet.
Interestingly, Labour continue to act as if they are popular and have a full mandate.
You would think that they would cease trying to foist extra control orders, and regime garnering income increments.
They are unable to stop their mad dash to oblivion.
Do we actually need any more laws? Do they think extra taxes will help the economy recover? Ee are depressed by having a miserable set of crooks in charge, who blame everything on an opposition who have no power or a successful leader from over 15 years ago.
The Conservatives made the wrong choices mantra is really weird. Thatcher to blame for the Expenses scandal is simply audacious. Harman was quick to have a go, and yet forgot about Thatch in a listing of emminent females?
Harperson, if you are correct then it just shows that women can’t be trusted and should be removed from power immediately?
I am still waiting to hear how Harperson can support our troops being sacrificed to prop up a dictator that has legalised rape!
until she squares that circle, she will have NO credibility left AT ALL. I mean she was credible as a rabid, man-hating, feminist, for a while, but she cannot even boast that anymore!
Yeah, seems like they are all so desparate to keep gordo in power they are now saying and doing things that will screw their own careers forever. Milliband spreading lies about Polish politicians then glad-handing them days later.
Great, should keep Labour out of office for at least a generation and with any luck even longer.
Can anyone remember being forced to make purchases on a credit card?
Was anyone forced to take out a self cert mortgage?
Was it compulsory to have three foreign holidays a year? or to eat out twice a week?
There was a choice.
Gordon made me do it! He said that he had abolished boom and bust.
He said he was the best Chancellor ever, and that he was ever so prudent.
What could have gone wrong with his plan? He promised us the best times.
No. If you’re a Labour apologist then Gordon didn’t make you do it. It was the banks that made you do it. The banks used the BBC and the media to convince you that your house increasing 15% every year was a direct result of your personal fiscal genius and so you were encouraged to just go out and borrow and consume more. Because, thanks to your personal brilliance it would increase in value by 15% next year. Because, well, it just would. Why wouldn’t it?
It was the banks that made you do it. You had no personal choice in the matter and the government, that is quite content to tell you how much to eat, how much to drink and which bin to put your rubbish in had no part in ensuring the smoke-and-mirrors nature of their ‘miracle economy’ was not a massive pyramid of debt that would inevitably crumble into the sand of its foundations.
No. If you’re a Labour apologist then Gordon didn’t make you do it. It was the banks that made you do it. The banks used the BBC and the media to convince you that your house increasing 15% every year was a direct result of your personal fiscal genius and so you were encouraged to just go out and borrow and consume more. Because, thanks to your personal brilliance it would increase in value by 15% next year. Because, well, it just would. Why wouldn’t it?
It was the banks that made you do it. You had no personal choice in the matter and the government, that is quite content to tell you how much to eat, how much to dr*nk and which bin to put your rubbish in had no part in ensuring the smoke-and-mirrors nature of their ‘miracle economy’ was not a massive pyramid of debt that would inevitably crumble into the sand of its foundations.
“You had no personal choice in the matter and the government, that is quite content to tell you how much to eat, how much to dr*nk and which bin to put your rubbish in had no part in ensuring the smoke-and-mirrors nature of their ‘miracle economy’ was not a massive pyramid of debt that would inevitably crumble into the sand of its foundations”
Loved that bit.
“There was a choice.”
There certainly will be, come next May.
yeah, a choice between a blue EU puppet, a yellow EU puppet, a red EU puppet or parties and candidates that actually respect OUR say and wish to return the UK to meaningful self rule.
If the choice is Lib/Lab/Con then that is no choice now that cameron has reneged on his “cast iron promise” of a referendum, as far as I am concerned the three main parties can go and fuck themselves.
I agree
there is no choice
we are doomed
even esther rantzen can’t help now (has to be said even though I know she’s very silly) or wayne rooney or the latest simon cowell nerd …..
Cameron has NOT reneged on a “cast iron” promise. He promised to give the electorate a reforendum IF he was in power and IF the treaty had not been ratified. ZaNuLiebour and ILLib Dem BROKE their promises. The absence of a referendum is down to Jonah MacDoom and Legover Clegg breaking their unambiguous mandate committments.
An eye injury in two different games of Rugby. Nobody could actually be that unlucky!
Oh wait……………………!
Brown is so unlucky:Treats would melt in his hands !
Still waiting for a decent reporter to chase down the old Loose Head’s team mates or a team photo.
Is this great often quoted, eye-losing Rugby match an urban myth or, more likely, a Broon myth.
Loose Head . . ?!
I’d tear the f ucker’s head off!
but what advantage is there to decieving us? if it was say a fight instead, so what?
He is completely incapable of telling the truth – lying is his reflex choice of action.
I beg to differ, he told the great(?) Piers Morgan,
Mr Brown replied: “I accept in my job that you’re going to be asked every question, and should answer them honestly.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6487409/Gordon-Brown-to-work-for-charities-after-leaving-Number-10.html
Countryside anyone?
Sounds Macho and normal?
Unlike Gordon, that well known exponent of ‘Brown Love’
Yep, he was on the receive side of a Glory Hole and he got it poked in the eye.
It’s curious that we’ve never seen so much as a team photos isn’t it? Never seen a newspaper clipping on the famous injury? Never an interview with *any* of his team-mates or schoolfriends?
In the US, we would have – why not here? What’s the story?
Let’s be honest – what’s the commonest cause of lifelong injury for teenage boys? scots particularly? Getting pissed and stuffing Dad’s sierra into a tree. That what it was Gordon?
Maybe he was rumbled trying on the old ‘empty cans + brick’ at a party, and the host was a good shot with the brick?
Well to be fair you wouldn’t expect any interviews with school friends, cause he didn’t have any.
Passer by, I spent a lot of years in the darker recesses of rucks and mauls and never once heard of anyone losing an eye playing rugby. I agree that this claim is almost guaranteed to be spurious and some enterprising journo should chase down and expose the lie.
Obviously not an accident then.
Or the same as Bush’s military service
All his contemporaries have been eradicated. they argued with him, and then were invited to go for a walk.
Dr Kelly wasn’t the first.
Gordon is a baby eating Alien.
It’ll be another lie
His not unlucky just fucking useless at what ever he does.
As they say, you make your own luck and he certainly makes his. By the way, Guido, the billions are not untold. I have a spreadsheet and the number this morning is $9,705,830,400, plus whatever he lost on “investing” the proceeds.
If you played rugby against Brown – wouldn’t you want to knock his block off?
He’s been a miserable bastard all his life!
They must have been queuing to thump him!
Unless somebody was looking for him on the blind side
An accidental elbow could do some bad damage to an eye. But it does seem odd that there are so few details…
A switch to the Euro when it gets to 1:1 would put a backstop to the slide with respect to trade with Europe. UK plc might however be persuaded to set itself up as a ruritanian sweatshop, relying on cheap pageantry with lots of flag waving as a source of hard currency.
Why so unambitious? Our pageantry has deep ancestral roots. As a nation, we have abundant reserves of good quality coal, seas that teem with fish.
Even better, we are ideally placed to be an offshore tax haven for the world. If we follow the example of some of our neighbours and place an upper limit on the amount of income tax to be paid by any resident, nobody could accuse us of unfair treatment.
The solution is all in Johnny English.
Turn the whole country into an Open Prison where the survival of the most brutal rules.
You only need the wall around the island. you have the rest!
As for India, no thanks. Go to a country where I am an Untouchable. Not born a Hindu then you are an Untouchable.
Half of my buddies in London would go to Goa after Christmas to take the same drugs at the same prices with the same people whilst listening to the same music!
Revolutionary stuff eh!
Leave now if you can!
I happen to have made this suggestion some years ago, when the rot was first apparent. No one considered my idea seriously …. now this. Make this man a Lord immediately
Wow partingshot, you’re obviously an expert on economics, not.
The Euro’s been such a help for Ireland and Spain.
Poor f*ckers can’t even print their own money to get out of the mess their in. No wonder the Irish have gone begging to the EU for mercy.
Anti Citizen One
Gosh I must have missed the Irish scrambling to reinstate a sterling-pegged punt, how remiss of me!
It was’nae me ye ken
Cos’ n’thn’s fult ye un’stan!
Just about the only thing Brown has done that was for the public good !
Zimbabwe ready to step in and offer the UK aid
We’ve already adopted their monetary policy.
Simply print money and use it to pay the civil service.
I hear shares in wheelbarrow manufacturers are about to rocket.
Too bad no wheelbarrow manufacturers are listed on the UK stock exchanges. You’ll find plenty on the Shanghai exchange though.
Thankfully our international ‘aid’ package to India has been ring fenced by Cameron, so we can continue to fund their nuclear submarine program and attempt to put a man on the moon, while British people slide into 3rd world living conditions.
It’s racist to resist
What is the problem?
Could they make worse use of your money than the Grate Leader does
I could make better use of my money than anyone else. This underlying fact that everyone who earns it can make better use of their own money than anyone else is the underlying root of inevitable socialist failure.
They have no right to our money in the first place. In the words of Ghandi, ‘India is for the Indians.’ That includes looking after themselves.
If the chattering classes in Britain want to wallow in post-colonial guilt, and let’s be honest, that is what all ‘aid’ to India is, guilt money, then let the chattering classes use their own money.
De hoodee-boo de-haadeee-hoo be blaah de bloo de blaadeee-hoo-deeeee-hooo (cont 94 pages)
. . . MUST ENSURE FAIRNESS AND DEMOCRACY . . . .
De hoodee-boo de-haadeee-hoo be-blaah de blaadeee-hoo-deeeee-hooo (cont 94 pages)
How can we, the British people, have no mechanism in place for removing this unmandated treasonous incompetent saboteur?
Labour members must know just how insane this wierdo has become?
This scorched earth approach to fiscal management of the country goes un-mentioned on Pravda.
The Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition is falling into line perfectly.
We are shortly to have an educated Camerhoon in charge.
God help us with his “cast iron guarantees”
I’m off to buy an extended warranty
Dave will end up with blair/mandel/kinnock…….. in a comfortable and well paid position for life in the EU as a reward for his treachery. Anyone who votes lib/lab/con should be certified.
Everything you say here Guido is true. But that will not stop a stupid electorate forgetting yesterday and voting for the one party who continues to offer them a free lunch.
Despire everything that has happened to them, despite the number of lies, corruption, intrigues, and sheer greed, the opinion polls could change in a day, on a handful of properly managed spin announcements.
Britons like nothing better than a reformed, the fact that it is shit doesn’t matter.
There is a person who wants to reform, needs to reform, and has learnt the lesson from the past. You know it’s rubbish, I know it’s rubbish, it makes no difference.
So keep counting the web hits and keep banking the money. In the end it’s the only language that will see you through
Did I hear someone say Free Lunch?
Ambrose Bierce:
An election is nothing more than the advanced auction of stolen goods.
RBS, Lloyds Get 31.3 Billion Pounds From U.K. in Second Bailout Share
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aaT.lcVDG6WA&pos=1
– Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc and Lloyds Banking Group Plc will receive 31.3 billion pounds ($51 billion) from the U.K. taxpayer in their second bailout.
The Treasury will inject 25.5 billion pounds into RBS, for a total of 45.5 billion pounds, making it the costliest bailout of any bank worldwide. Lloyds will raise 21 billion pounds from investors, with the government providing 5.8 billion pounds.
Perhaps I’m being a bit cynical here but who, the fuck, in their right minds, would ‘invest’ 21bn quid in Lloyds? Particularly since the ‘good’ bits are subject to a compulsory sale at such a low point in the market?
The fact that Daniels bloke is still CEO is a complete mystery to me.
All he had to do when Darling/Brown held a gun to his head to merge with HBOS was to tell him to go fuck himself.
It wasn’t actually Daniels or Darling that did the deal – it was done over their heads by Sir Victor Blank and Jonah over a potted plant at a cocktail party. Daniels should have threatened Blank but instead just meekly went along with it.
Let’s just say I know what actually happened. And the idea that Brown just cooked it up in between cereal and doing the crossword one morning after being informed overnight what a sudden and shockingly bad position our banks were in is yet another egregious lie from the Maximum Liar.
The fact is RBS and HBOS were screaming for help on the q.t. from the BoE since the minute Northern Rock kicked off a year prior. The BoE could not make a decesion ‘cos Brown had removed that power, Darling dare not make a decision, Brown, as usual was dithering about making a decision and so the situation got steadily wose until the entire situation literally did come to the brink. By then it was too late. Confidence had disappeared. The markets were proven right.
The situation has been made infinitely worse, as usual, by the Maximum Imbecile. It needed decisive action post Northern Rock. It needed a statement that the UK government would protect all cash investments in British banks. It needed tax-hikes, civil service recruitment freeze etc etc the day Northern Rock went tits up. But no. Instead we have had another two full years of head-in-the-sand idiocy.
Which is why our banks suffered disproportionally and why our much-vaunted banking sector is in the shitter and the bankers of Frankfurt are laughing their heads off.
Wouldn’t it have been better to bail out depositors and remove these “banks”?
The RBS & HBOS bond collapse would be deflationary and the BoE could therefore safely print money for depositors.
There’s an additional traunch of £8 billion so nearer £39 Billion. Out of control springs to mind. There can be no doubt Brown is a TOSSER. What places banks above other buisnesses. The government could have stepped in and save Woolworth for around £200 million money nuch better spent saving jobs and far better chance of getting a return.
Agree. But Woolworths sold all it’s branches and leased them back at on unaffordable terms.
Perhaps we could sell the UK to someone and lease it back
Sale and leaseback deal with Finland. UK Education brought up to Finnish standards (among highest in the world); state sector shrinks; unwanted immigrants sent home; not against a monarchy; football team OK; and at least they know how to deal with alcoholic teenagers.
I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole
That is why all the politicians should be hung with all the banksters guts.
And it ain’t the last $51bn.
Both these banks are black holes. Unlimited losses. They’ll be back in 6 to 9 months for another bailout. You can bet your house on it. I hate to think the shit Halifax has in mortgages. Self cert loans, no checks, up to 90% LTV, good or bad credit histories with The Mortgage Business, Bank of Scotland, Birmingham Midshires.
It hasn’t even got going yet. Just watch the stock markets up until Christmas and the banking sector in particular.
The whole idea is to create so much inflation, the house speculators are bailed out.
How many MPs are house speculators?
The British Pound is on the down again.
I notice that every time the pound gets too high someone in government says something deliberate like “piss poor our parochial pound” to renew the herd instinct of speculators. Brown wants a low pound so the argument to change to the Euro is more compelling.
Meanwhile Cameron carries on digging his hole deeper over the referendum.
The EU only wanted to leech off us and keep paying the bills while the UK was worth something – like 15 years ago.
Now that the UKs worth 4/5 of 5/8 of fuck all, they do not want gazillions of UK debt to drag their Euro down lower than snakeshit.
What was the limit to join the Euro? 3% of GDP? Yeah, we really meet that one now.
Meanwhile the one-eyed mong still thinks he has cash in the kitty to throw around the world.
Sheesh – is he desperate for a handful of votes or what?
Euro is totally in the shit at present thanks to being too high causing places like Portugal, Ireland, Spain, and E. Europe tio choke on their own exports. Low £ would be doing us a world of good if Gordo hadn’t so royally screwed up the private sector and stuffed all the poential employees into waste-of-space jobs in the public sector. Sack ‘em all and rebalance the economy I say!
Well if the Politicians will not honour their promise, then WE should honour it for them.
Use the General election as OUR promised referendum.
After all, after the 1st December the EU formerly adopts the legal framework as laid down in the Lisbon Reform Treaty. We all will be waking up in a foreign country on December the 1st, 2009.
It will not matter whether Britain has a blue EU puppet, or a red EU puppet as PM. SO VOTE AGAINST THE PRO EU MAINSTREAM TREASONOUS TRAITORS.
Vote anyone but labour, tory or liberal. BUT MAKE SURE YOU VOTE.
Tell everyone who tells you that they will not vote that they represent more voters than tory and labour supporters COMBINED. So there IS a point in them voting. If they ALL voted, then we can sack ALL the treasonous, thieving corrupt MPs at once.
Now imagine waking up the day after the general election and turning on the television and seeing the STARTLED newsreader, not quite believing what he is saying when announcing that not only have labour been utterly routed, but the tories have as well, and the balance of power is with a party dedicated to supporting the PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THEM, instead of an unelected foreign elite. And what is more, their leader is saying that he will immediately move to set in play the mechanism for withdrawing from the dictatorship of the EU and giving the British people the right to self determination and democratic accountability once more.
The thieving MPs being dumped by the public, the traditional establishment turned on it’s head, the BBC pundits at a complete loss and in fear for THEIR jobs!
That election is the LAST CHANCE to have our say, and take OUR country BACK!
We outnumber all the tory and labour supporters combined!
Oh happy day :D
Sorry, I didn’t specify which party I think people should vote for-
VOTE FOR THE UNITED KINGDOM INDEPENDENT PARTY.
Be a patriot, vote UKIP.
Hear hear!
Unfortunately, I have never like ballroom dancing, the Archers, cardigans or the Daily Mail.
There is no point voting conservative.
you’re kidding
Agree, no point in BluLabour
Hague peaked too early
I’m afraid you’re right, although ‘peaked’ is a bit generous for his performance then.
Agreed & seconded.
If Cameron weasels out of this cast iron guarantee there is no point voting Conservative.
I don’t understand – Brown promised the referendum, didn’t give one and ratified the Treaty. Cameron promised one but how can he do it once the treaty is already in place?
He can’t, and won’t.
So?
If the Tories were in Govt now there would be a referendum, there not so there ain’t – not their fault
Quite right motorcade however to cover Labour disinformation, spin and outright lies they always throw this into the argument. The tories can do nothing while out of power and everyone knows it. Even offering the chance of a referendum will make no difference whatsoever except at the BBC. Labour traitors will have it in force before the Tories get there anyway and to oppose the constitreaty would be an illegal act anyway. Forget revoking the treaty after the event thats not how the world works in International treaties unless you want war of course.
The traitorous Labour party have sold you out and all those that voted for them even just once bear the full and total responsibility so don’t come on here bleating about being ‘conned’ and ‘I thought they would be different’. Its the fucking Labour party they are NEVER different just bankrupt the country and sell out the workers in the same way they always do and now twice in my lifetime.
WELCOME TO THE EUSSR. Thanks Labour you fucking scumbags
By the way go ahead and vote UKIP or the BeeandPEE if you wish. Another crass mistake after voting Labour because you do vote for either of those even as a protest you had better be very prepared for another 5 more years of Brown if you do and by the way YOU STILL WON’T GET A REFERENDUM!!
the EU constitution cannot overrule the British Constitution unless the British people give their explicit permission and consent. Parliament’s Sovereignty lies with the people, not its politicians. it is only in the British people’s gift to give away sovereignty to a foreign power, the politicians have no right or authority under the British Constitution to do so.
we, the people, have not given that consent and never will, therefore the EU constitution has no legal basis in Britain.
there, I hope that makes things clearer for you.
I must have missed that historical document ‘The British Constitution’ on my visits to the British Museum and the Houses of Parliament. Where can I find an online copy?
it is not my fault if you are an ignorant c’unt jgm2.
our Constitution and the power it offers is wisely distributed and shared across several institutions including the politicians, monarchy and judiciary.
but it is not your fault you are not intelligent enough to understand the exquisite nature of the British Constitution, you are the product of the new labour war project, you need to be spoonfed what to think and how to act. you need an idiots’ guide to your own country’s history and traditions.
as you are so simple and dim I will simplify the case further:
do you agree that MPs temporarily occupy the commons?
we have elections every five years, yes?
so tell me this then you fuckwit, how can a tenant sign away the freehold for a property?
it is not possible. and so it is not possible for the politicians to give away that freehold by allowing a foreign court to overrule a British one. they have neither the power or authority to do so.
maybe you are just too stupid and dullardly to understand.
oh well.
Kerching!
tat is a guidiot the oaf clone paid to flatter the site stats.
Thank you for your response tat. However you seem to have overlooked my request. Where will I find a copy of the British Constitution so I can see for myself what it says.
I can find the US one online. I can find the Irish one online. I can find the EU one online although it’s a bit inpenetrable.
But this British Constitution document of yours I’m finding hard to find. Okay, we both know that no such document exists. The only principle we have is that Parliament is Sovereign although with the imbecile sarjent-at-arms and the jackass Speaker Martin allowing plod to rampage all over the place on the say-so of Smith or Brown then even that might be open to interpretation these days.
I’m afraid we both know that this jackass government can do what it likes. And the next one can undo it. Or not. But to suggestthat this government cannot change the constitution is utter bollocks old boy.
As you well know.
Where can I get my very own copy of the British Constitution then?
the Constitution of Great Britain is its people and institutions as well as the Bill of Rights aswell as the Manga Carta as well as the precedents that have been set by various Acts of Parliament.
you seem to be unable to understand the metaphysical nature of our Constitution but that is understandable, you have been blinded by consumerism and personal gains.
sometimes jgm2 the most important possessions are those that cannot be physically grasped.
as is the case with the British Constitution.
I am sorry jgm2 but you seem to be too dim to appreciate the fluidity and therefore untrappable nature of our Constitution. it is not like a car or house or money, it cannot be possessed and traded.
it is not your fault you are a dullard, your stupidity is genetically pre-determined.
Oh I get it tat. It’s a quantum constitution. If you find out where it is you can’t read what’s in it. And if you can read what’s in it then you can’t show anybody where it is.
I can see how a situation like that would suit Gordon Brown perfectly.
I have just listed the various sources you will have to visit to harvest the principles of our Constitution Jgm2, now you are just making an arse of yourself.
you have lost the debate.
take your defeat like a man and stop being such whingeing c’unt, eh.
thankyou.
‘Fraid declaring victory without any evidence is no more convincing when you do it as when Brown declares he’s abolished boom and bust tat.
Sovereignty lies with Parliament. Parliament can do what it likes. And the next one can do what it likes. We elect people in the hope or belief that they would not knowingly do harm but we have been badly let down by this bunch of self-serving, mendacious, lying, criminal bastards.
Even a judge has found that their constitutioon does not constitute a contract. They are free to lie their heads off and there is nothing constitutionally we can do about it. Because there is no fucking constitution. It is nebulous. It is without form. It is an ‘undersrtanding’ in the same sense that Speaker Martin was elected contrary to an ‘understanding’ and there was fuck all anybody could do about it.
The British Constitution is written in our history. Power is exercised by our deputies – kings, lords and commons – to do as they will, but for so long and no longer than we permit them. When the point comes that we will tolerate their hoonery no longer, then their commission is revoked, the people take back that power in all its totality, and undo so much of what they have done in our names as seems fit, and hand out such punishments as fit the crimes they have done. The next general election is an opportunity to do this: provided people simply vote against all parties represented in the present House of Commons and in favour of honest women and men who will restore our independence and respect. The politicians might be well advised not to try any dirty tricks to halt this process, as they may like the alternative even less. Note to politicians – google “Edward II” to see what the alternative might involve.
The ratification excuse being made by some people just makes the situation worse. This will cost Cameron.
Good
This will cost Cameron nothing. He will be paid highly by the European gnomes for services rendered to the project while in office – just as blair and all the others including the repulsive kinnocks have been.
He has weasel’d out.
Quote from David Cameron in The Sun-’ …and it is why from the moment the EU Constitution (It is a new constitution for the UK) was dreamt up by Elites in Brussels, the Conservative Party’s Squadron was first in the air, Demanding a Referendum in This Battle for Our Country’s future’ End Quote.
Now he says if we elect him he will see if we can negotiate. Well we can’t negotiate Mr Cameron. You have deceived us big time. F.Off.
Um, it just occurs to me that the euro-skeptics in the cabinet like Hague et al are keeping remarkably quite if they think Cameron is going back on a promise. Fact is I don’t think Cameron will be able to go back on it. Labour are just itching to skewer him on it, and have been over since the Lisbon treaty was proposed.
Seems to me that Labour and the socialists in the EU knew exactly how this was going to end and Cameron was just a bit too honest to see how he was going to end up making a promise that would be almost impossible to keep. Fact is that Lisbon was all about making sure that the EU consitution got a “yes” by whatever means – so they would have kep going on and on and on until they got what they wanted. Cameron just didn’t see that – ho didn’t realise how that game was going to be played. Did any of us really believe these toe-rages would really keep asking the Irish the same question until they gave the right answer? Well they did. They really are that bad.
Still, in some ways it make the decision much easier. Back in the days of Maastricht Major kept telling us that the treaty wouldn’t make a United States of Europe and the principle of subsidiarity would allow us to choose what powers the UK would keep. Well that was bullshit, and soon we will see that we are indeed part of some god-awful faux “United States of Europe” with a faux president and a faux foreign minister and a faux army. A “United States of Europe” propped up by a selection of socialist non-entity nations that only recently gave up on fascism (in public at least, when told they had to by the Americans at the point fo a gun) and which have not had any positive influence on the world since the Enlightenment.
Is this a Europe we want to be part of, a Europe run by the Hitler youth and the Communist resistance now grown up and inflicting daft policies on the people of Europe? The whole thing was only ever invented to rip the heart out of their ancient adversaries on this small island. What possible sense did it ever make to conjoin in unholy matrimony with our most vicious competitors in the name of greater economic success?
So the choice is simply to withdraw, because this is an entity we want no part of. For Hague and most grass-roots Tories Lisbon is the best thing that could have happened. It puts what the EU is really about in the harsh light of day. No more lies will disguise its true purpose.
Some daft fools have been saying that we will suffer because of trade. Perhaps they are labouring under the illusion that the EU can still set tariffs and block imports. Oh that it were, it might then have some point in its continued existence. But as the Irish have recently discovered the age of globalisation has brought those days to an end. The world trade organisation has now ended the use of the trade tariff and that is why we have seen the meteoric rise of China as it takes full advantage of the new econimc situation – and as a result Irelands beggar-thy-EU neighbour economy is now totally in the toilet. The EU cannot keep our products and services out of the EU, anymore than they can keep China out. In any case, the EU as a whole is in terminal decline as it becomes more andmore socialist so better to hitch ourselves up to those economies that are on the rise thanks to finally starting to turn away from socialism. Goodbye EU, if you ever had a purpose you are no longer serving it now.
The only trade tariffs that remain are those on food, and since the UK is a net importer of food getting rid of those nasty EU taxes and allowing ourselves to buy our food at global market prices can only be good for the UK consumer. And if the EU-facists don’t like our policy – we can always slap a 100% tariff on all those Peugeots, BMWs, Renaults Fiats, Alfa Romeos, etc etc etc. See how they like them onions.
Thanks to the WTO, getting out of the EU is now a no-lose, only win-win option for the UK and we should take our money and run. Food will be cheaper, taxes will be lower and trade with the growing economies of the East will be easier. The EU is on a one way journey to political, social, cultural and economic oblivion – we all know that so its time to unhitch ourselves and take our business elsewhere.
I think the electorate can easily be convinced of the truth of that position. They can see that the EU hasn’t protected jobs from the Chinese. They know that the British companies they worked for are now owned by EU companies that have run them into the ground. They know we pay more in than we get out. They know that are fishing industry has all but dissappeared as the Spanish have taken all the fish. They know the massive rise in unwanted immigration is partly due to the EU. It is easy to show that the EU of today is worse than worthless. A new referendum on our continued membership is long overdue and would be wlecomed by all. If nothing else, it is high time to clear the air.
Cameron should offer us that referendum, but the choice should be “in” or “out”.
Scoff they might at the comparison with Zimbabwe but at this rate we are heading for an economic collapse.
Things aint wot they used to be and whilst the Bank of England are waiting for the inflation bus to come into sight, it is in fact a supper fast express train that will manifest itself in a series of bubbles.
They don’t stand a chance with their fine words, we are all destined for the plug hole when the exchange rate collapses and interest rates soar and any store of wealth we might have becomes worthless.
And all because of a bunch of worthless scots who thought they could plunder the till
The comparisons with
Zimbabwe (worse than shit leadership, crap economy)
Afghanistan (monumantal troughing)
Iraq (No go areas)
are getting more and more worrying.
FFS Gordon go and make it quick.
I fink that Gordon is going to vote for Cameron but that’s what you get from joining a fink tank at least I fink it is.
Do you fink that Sarah will vote for Gordon?
Piss off. It’s a marriage of convenience, an arranged marriage.
He farts in bed soon as he gets kicked out of number 10 I’m off.
What an opinionated bunch you are… able to comment about a country without having been there and based on the offerings of your local Indian take out in what ever crap little town you live in..
India is a complex place – whether this century belongs to India & china remains to be seen. Having just returned from India, the paradox of the New India (Tata, Nuclear Energy, IT industry etc, shiny shopping malls in Delhi) compared with the rural poverty & corruption is startling and yes it makes me grateful to be British and that I live in the UK BUT it cannot be denied that they have a young booming population with a massive can do attitude (by and large). I have my own reservations as to whether the 5-10% middle class can desseminate the wealtth downwards to the majority. The average wage is still only a $1 a day. Yep ONE Dollar. There is no social services, no health care for the masses, corruption is rife and so on… yet All you see now in Delhi and Bangalore are british businesses .. Like I said its complicated.
Would it be to much to expect some decent debate here?
Ah so the Brits have gone to India. That figures. Must be the reason we want to protect our finance “industry” so much instead of investing in this country. If the work can be done for less thana dollar a day why bother getting it done for a living wage in this country!
Star of India, Bombay Brassier, Delhi Belli corse we fecking been there. Suffered for it as well
I found Calcutta a bit too crowded!
felt like a black hole.
I think most of us would agree with you. Nobody said it was simple. If we could predict the future we’d all become very rich.
I’m all for a decent debate, do you have to put clothes on.
Back to the debate, after a night on Indian Kingfisher beer what type of Vindaloo do you like spewing up from a Brighton Tuk Tuk (you know the 3 wheel Indian taxis).
‘Decent debate’ Let’s start with you then:
1. ‘What an opinionated bunch you are’ and pray what is your response but an opinionated one?
2. ‘able to comment about a country without having been there and based on the offerings of your local Indian take out in what ever crap little town you live in.’
I think you will find that a number of posters have been there and many others have made no comment about India. If you want to take a minority of comments and twist them,get a job with the government or the Guardian/BBC.
PS -by saying ‘ what ever crap little town you live in’ I think you are doing exactly what you complain about others doing. Worse in fact as you have no idea where I or anyone else lives. Hypocrite.
Sorry sarge. I was being opinionated.. :-)
And yet we give them aid hand over fist.
We shall remain cursed until next May when finally the curse may be lifted. Will it be too late by then?
It’s already too late.
We should never have got into this hole. It would have been easier not to get into the hole in the first place let alone give Brown a fiscal JCB so he could keep on digging.
UK PENSION SQUEEZE IS ON THE WAY
http://financialadvice.co.uk/news/8/pensions/12584/UK-pension-squeeze-is-on-the-way.html
“It would appear that more than three in five UK citizens are looking to rely upon the state pension as their main source of income in retirement, as the private pension sector continues to decline and more and more workers are withdrawing from pension schemes.
The very fact that around 64% of those in the UK will be looking to depend on the state pension is a damning indictment of the UK private pension sector. This is an area of the financial industry which was for many years seen as “money for nothing” but lately has been hit by various taxes from the UK government and regulatory changes which have increased short-term pension deficits.
IN TRUTH, WHEN GORDON BROWN WAS IN THE TREASURY HE INSTIGATED A TAX RAID ON UK PENSION SCHEMES WHICH BROUGHT SIGNIFICANT FUNDS INTO THE UK GOVERNMENT’S COFFERS BUT, AS WE ARE SEEING NOW, HAS HAD A DETRIMENTAL LONG-TERM IMPACT UPON THE SECTOR…………….”
People simply don’t trust the government. If you lick money away in a pension fund, Gordon or a successor is likely to just nick it when it suits him.
You would have to be certifiable to trust the government.
Store your savings in other ways, where you can get at them in need.
But look at the new shiney hospitals. schools and goverment buildings that got paid for from our pensions. Oh, hang on a minute, most of them were aquired via PFI.
Where did the money go?
Yessssss!!!! This is the BIG LIE. The lie is that the 35bn quid deficits we were running in the ‘boom’ years was being ‘invested’ in new schools’n'hospitals. But it wasn’t. they were all getting built on off-balance book deals a-la-Enron. The 35bn quid overspends were just to make the payroll of the one million bedwetters, boxtickers and bastards he recruited in 2002.
That’s why he can’t just ’save’ 35bn quid this year by suspending his schools’n'hospitals program. Or at least getting twice as many for the same money ‘cos contractors are so desperate for work. that money was never being spent on ‘essential infrastructure’. It was on 5-a-day co-ordinators pay, holidays, ’status’ car, office space, paperclips, clip-boards and training courses.
And in the last year he’s hired another 30,000 or so of the useless c’unts.
We are so utterly fucked.
Not entirely sure, but I did hear a whisper that the 6 month book on GBP was trading down around 10% on its current value and 2 year contracts about 30%? Guido you have close contacts in the city, can you verify?
my LA hairdresser says you are right.
The bloke in the chip shop said his cousin paid £35,000 to hire a banqueting suite for the day
Did Brown or Balls ever give a reason why they sold off the gold? Anyone know the reason?
Yes. It was all Thatcher’s fault. Seriously – that was the reason they gave.
Labour its all Maggie’s fault. WTF have they been doing for the last 12 years? I could write a very long list but will refrain. They have had the biggest majority you could wish for and by and large could easily have changed anything or done anything they wanted. Instead they still harp on about Thatcher. Tell you one thing for certain people will look back on this sorry bunch of Nulabour clowns and regret ever mentioning MT in a bad way. And most will say they were better off under her than they ever were or will be under Brown. Its always the same with labour it always ends in financial meltdown only this time it is far far worse.
The reason is very simple: It was to buy euros to incease the value of euros. It was sold in euros for the same reason.
So he was a speculator targeting the Euro?
Look, don’t get all technical I’ve told you what I know.
Wasn’t trying to make a any particular point, just trying to clarify what you said, as I am still pretty much in the drak as to the motives behind the sale.
whats £225 billion?????????????????
qe isnt working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks gordon,thanks badger…………hoons
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aXYCyPV0luBw&pos=7
zimbabwe here we come…….
we ‘ad it coming. We’s are pricks.
It depends if you think the plan IS to make Britain into New Zimbabwe.
They don’t have a “plan” as such. They really are that stupid.
Give McMental his due, without his backing of Blair we would have had that grinning bastard as President of Europe,
Obamas ratings have also gone down the pan since he met the accursed one
Fuck Trident, all we need to do is get piss pants Gordon to wish our enemies all the best, then they are fucked
Well he’s made a start with Kharzai in that case.
a National treasure
And instead, we could have Milipede as President of Europe.
It really beggars belief.
Paul Tudor Jones, not a natural lover of Au, has bought the metal for his fund.
China has been buying for the last year.
Too much of the printed stuff in the system.
So?
Isn’t this part of the master plan to destroy us?
{shakes head in wonder}
UK GRADUATE UNEMPLOYMENT SOARS 44%
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=110316§ionid=3510213
Graduate unemployment in the UK has soared 44 percent, reaching the highest level for more than a decade, a recent research has shown.
THE RATE IS THE HIGHEST RECORDED SINCE TWELVE YEARS AGO, the research from the higher education careers services unit shows.
This is while the report draws a darker outlook for those who graduated in 2009.
Unemployment among architecture and construction graduates nearly tripled from 2.9 per cent in 2007 to 8.5 per cent.
may be related to the generally low quality of most graduates and the degree’s they get.
Unemployment among architecture and construction graduates nearly tripled from 2.9 per cent in 2007 to 8.5 per cent.
“may be related to the generally low quality of most graduates and the degree’s they get.”
What a Hoon!
Mitch must have taken a degree where imbecilic misuse of apostrophes was permitted.
Should be “degrees” – as any graduate should know
Mitch – don’t try to compete on “Are you smarter than a ten year old?”. You won’t make it past the first round mate.
The Country has gone to the dogs and he has time to do an interview in which he states his preferences over Strictly and the X factor – he is utterly cringeworthy.
I am terrified he will wish Mr Cameron good luck before the election.
Cameron’s alright for 3 reasons:
– Brown has stated that labour will win
– Brown hates the Tories so much that he would never wish them luck
– Brown is too stupid to realise that wishing them luck is cursing them.
With India becoming so dominant is it time to invest in Chutney futures?
Labour will win (apart from the BBCs help):
Remember Glenrothes
” years ago this month I could buy a euro for 72p today I would have to pay 92p How’s that for leading the world out of recession?
heh heh
Let’s try “Leading Brown to the gallows” and hang him VERY slowly – Sky HD sales would go through the roof while he goes through the hatch.
It’s Black Monday today Tuesday, just as I forecast yesterday, pound plummetting against the dollar, shares plummeting, pound rising against the Indian Rupee and Euro and all because of this blog.
Guidot the Oaf, concentrate at the back!
The difference in value of the gold sales comes to $5,425,135,347.85, that’s 5.425 billion dollars or 3.328 billion pounds.
It has not cost untold billions, except in the mind of fetid simpletons.
Oh – so his incompetence & lack of fiscal prudence only cost the taxpayer a few billion then?
Supporting & cheerleading for a war criminal and torture party is wrong MB.
Not saying it cost less than 3.5 billion pounds, saying the difference in values is less than 3.5 billion pounds and that it is not untold billions it is less than 3.5 billion pounds.
Now leave me alone you ghastly people!
The Tories – wrong on gold, wrong on the economy, wrong on expenses, wrong on…. oh what’s the point…
Just sing ‘Red Flag’ and you will feel so much better!!
that was a fucking good trade then?
master wanker you really do live up to your name!!!!!!
nick leeson only lost £1 billion and got a prison term and cancer……..
what do you propose gordon gets?
30 years+ castration?
Sacked bond trader
Taking in to account changes in the exchange rate the difference is actually less it is 3.15 billion pounds.
The difference is not untold billions, it’s transparent and calculated easily by any ordinary person, but not of course by turgid simpletons such as Guidiot the Oaf.
Could you explain to a smelly half wit, are you saying 3.328 billion is not billions?
Gah. I can remember when losing 2bn quid would get a day named after it. Black Wednesday or something. Now we lose 3.5bn quid a week and its no big deal to jackass apologists for this incompetent socialist occupation of imbeciles.
It’s Brownedhog Day every day
Black Wednesday, now that was funny and Cameo had a Cameo role.
2bn quid was funny? Well 800bn quid must be an absolute fucking belter for a jackass Labour apologist then.
Wasn’t ‘Cast Iron’ Cameo giving ’special advice’ to the then Chancellor Norman “Madam Whiplash” Lamont at the time of Black Wednesday?
My name is Master Baiter and I’m a recovering alcoholic.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
The Conservitude party is now in favour of QE (quantitative easing), see, couldn’t understand what it was before.
Reverse, reverse, reverse!
Show me a link where the Tories are in favour of printing hundreds of billions of pounds and I will show you a country that is completely fucked by Gordon Brown.
Just keep digging jgm2, keep digging, dimwit.
Conservitudes now in favour of QE (quantitative easing) continuing, because it’s the right thing to do.
Reverse, reverse, reverse! That’s all Cameo and Osborne ever do.
It’s the real economy, stupid.
Printing money – ‘cos it’s the right thing to do.
I predicted this way back in 2004-2005. I knew this shower of incompetent socialist bastards would end up printing money.
Sept 2004
http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=8764925&sort=postdate
We’ll simply print money – well, by the time we’ve got Italy’s national debt and pension liabilities the pound will be worthless anyway so we might as well.
I know incompetence when I see it. And while you’re merely having a laugh at our sheer teeth-crushing frustration of having to live through such utter world-class idiocy I at least have the satisfaction of being right. And the proof.
As opposed to 100% wrong. Like Brown and his idiot army of 400 self-serving, imbecilic, lying, corrupt Labour MPs.
Yep, thanks to Gordo its the ONLY thing we can do.
A bit like climbing in the life rafts was the only thing to do when the Titanic went down. Now who was responsible for the Titanic going down? Oh it was the captain – sailed staright into an iceberg because he thought he was indestructible. And who is the captain for todays disaster? Oh, its Gordon. He thinks he’s indestructible too. We’ve got news for him….
Gordo tries to Jonah Dave
After stuffing Blair with his “backing” Gordo now tries the same trick on HM Opposition:
Gordon Brown has described David Cameron as a “very good politician” but admitted he did not think the pair would ever “hang out”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6490015/Gordon-Brown-says-David-Cameron-is-a-very-good-politician.html
Yuk. I know how he feels (says Manglebum).
Oh, we could help Brown “hang out” – from a sodding lamp post that is…..
What can one say other than hear hear you have got it right again.
Here here?
No! it’s ‘Hear Hear’. (a contraction of ‘Hear him, hear him.’)
Well it should now be Hear Her, Hear Her.
This is the man who expects to be elected Prime Minister of Great Britain. At present he is the un-elected PM, he really must up his medication if he is thinking of taking the country to the polls and being successful.
Everything Brown touches turns to “sold” at rock bottom prices. The gold, the countries assets, and now here he goes again with the banks, God help us all!
There are three major players in the UK Banking Market that did not require bail outs by UK government they are Barclays’HSBC & Santander(the Spanish Bank)that owns Abbey and Alliance & Leicester. They will continue to dominate the markets in the Uk for some considerable time.The fact that Brown has actually put paid to two of their main rivals RBS(NatWest) and LloydsTSB(who were conned into bailing out HBoS by Brown)is a plus point for them.So these two banks are split up into smaller banks to as John McFall says encourage competition.It won’t happen I’ll give you evens that these “smaller”banks will be absorbed by these remaining three giants who are impervious to Browns shennanigans within the next 5 years
There is another option.
These three banks could start business by offering customers really fantastic deals in an effort to get the lion’s share of the banking and mortgage market.
The government would then be in control of that too.
The remaining banks would have to compete much more fiercely in order to stay in business.
Labour. Controlling, dictatorial, and useless. It’s what they do best.
Can we expect Brown to take an immediate non-exec position with one of;
Barclays
HSBC
Santander
for his services rendered in neutralising their competitors over the past two years?
How will you feel when Brown DOES start taking up paid positions when we kick him out next year?
Simple – short whoever he associates with.
Wherever you go there are always 5 dogs in a nu fascist-corporatist cartel. A top dog. a wannabe top dog, two sundry middling dogs, and a runt. And a “regulator”. It’s to promote the illusion of a free market while doing everything possible to avoid one.
Heads up Mr Fawkes. There is a survey on Cameron’s Euro thingy on conservative foam
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=6wWKqH6nkhG03_2fj7xwLTUA_3d_3d
ZZzzzzz..
It’s an interesting coincidence that the Labour Party came to “power” as they would call it,in the same year that J K Rowling’s first Harry Potter novel was published in 1997 – unleashing a fantasy of epic proportions with simply unbelievable dark plots and evil characters – I do of course refer to the last 12 years that the Labour Party have been “in power”.
Had I written a political thriller at the same time and sent it to Bloomsbury for consideration,detailing a story of a political party that;
allows wholesale immigration
defrauding of pensioners pensions and workers savings
the sale of the country’s gold reserves at the worst possible price
the illegal declaration of a war that has absolutely no meaning
the refusal to allow the electorate to vote on important issues
the appointment of a criminal Chancellor to the Premiership without a vote
the persecution of ordinary civilian in the workplace,at home,on the roads,in pubs etc with a myriad of laws,regulations and penalties for simply being alive
the wholesale defrauding of the country’s Parliament by its elected members
the sending in to battle of fine soldiers with a paucity of equipment
the list goes on and on…
then Bloomsbury most probably would have written me a ‘Dear John” letter thanking me for sending my novel for consideration,stating that they had just received another novel about wizards and spells which was more believable and which the British public would no doubt find more realistic…….
don’t forget they demonised HM Opposition with
no return to boom and bust
nasty tories
pass by on ther side
do nothing tories
they cut
labour invests (spends to you and I)
moral compass
British jobs
etc
The Sun, the Beeb all the luvvies , pop stars , bankers were all compicit in this labour love in
If the conservatives had got in on their mandate that spending was too high then we woud not be in the mess we re now. I am sure there would be a mess but the conservitves would not run a deficit for 8 years in a boom.
And that Labour luvveee JK fucking Rowling, fresh from her ‘Lord of the Rings’ derivative declares Labour are fantastic and bungs ‘em a million quid.
It’s too late to boycott her books but we should rest safe in the knowledge that soon her half a billion quid will buy as much food as half a billion Zimbabwe dollars.
Does that mean we must look forward to a Harry potter No. 8?
Goldman Sachs agree with Guido that India will outstrip China to become one of the economic super-powers and we ought to acknowledge GS as the Bank That Got It Right in 2008.
I think they ‘got it right’ in the sense that they had an ex-employee in charge of handing out 800bn dollars of gubmint cash.
HBOS might have got it similarly ‘right’ if ex-CEO Sir James Crosby was now of the BoE or the treasury and had been bunged 200bn quid to sort out the mess.
Who is Gordon Brown? Surely everything is Mrs Thatcher’s fault. That is what I hear at uni’ week in and week out. The odd thing is most of the teens I share lectures with were hardly born when Mrs T left…..
The same kids who are studying the rubbish, mean-nothing degrees that will get them no jobs?
The only degrees anyone should be studying nowadays are those that enable them to become a professional – doctors etc,cos the rest are worthless.
The day’s of careers are over – you need a profession.
On the day Gordon uses 30 billion of our pounds buying even more bank shares the stock market collapses. He is a sheer genius when it comes to being a Jinx
and f*cking John McFFFall I hate him and his greasy comments as though everything is ok
and tw*t myners talking absloute cr*p on the radio this morning
I hate them
Let’s not be too tribal about this!
Yes, we all like having a laugh at Gordon Brown’s expense but, being totally honest for a minute, we have to admit that it was his firm leadership and exceptional knowledge of economics that lead the world out of recession.
The low debt that we have here in Britain, combined with the economic powerhouse of the housing market, the mighty banking sector, and the thriving consumer sector, all mean that the UK will once again be leading the world in economic growth.
It is mainly positive from now on, house prices are rising again and shoppers are spending again in the malls. You can thank Gordon Brown’s wise policies for this rapid turnaround in Britain’s fortunes.
You had me going for a moment there.
Hahahahaha. Good one.
I used to like Jackanory when I was kid
Good spot jgm – I thought he was being serious.
Excellent irony Alex
It’s not irony. It’s the official view of the Spectator these days.
Fraser Nelson’s a Jock isn’t he?
Let’s not be too tribal about this!
Good suggestion.
As you wish to appear even handed perhaps you could expand your post to explain who led us into recession?
Or do you belong to the school which believes the Americans led us into recession and Gordon is leading us out?
If Cameron does not declare his policy on Europe BEFORE tomorrow’s PMQ,he will get slaughtered by the criminal Brown no matter what question he cares to ask the fraudster tomorrow.
Why does it take until the end of the week?
Blimey,I know Brown will lose,but for gawd’s sake don’t give him an opportunity tomorrow.
And why oh why don’t the Tories and Lib Dems gang up on Brown at PMQ’s – a few concerted and coordinated questions will have Brown being taken away in a strait jacket before the 30 minutes is over.
Or is it because NONE of them can focus on anything beyond the Kelly Report publication tomorrow and their own greasy lives?
Cameron’s right to use the jab and not the uppercut. He needs Brown to go the full distance and just win on points. If he knocks him out he may find himself in the ring with a more skillful opponent.
in the meantime we all go down the pan
So what you’re saying is that Cameron is not quite a shite as Brown. Hardly a ringing endorsement!
May be if they all took watre pistols in with them to PMQs tomorrow it would liven things up a bit? I bet Brown is useless with a water pistol, whereas Cameron and Clegg strike me as being potential marksmen. Looking ahead, I think Harman, Balls and Darling would also be useless at this one.
The lib dems still see their future in supporting a minority labour government and getting PR as their 20 pieces if silver.
Funny isn’t it. PR would ensure that the LibDems sank without trace as there would be no need to use it as the receptacle of protest votes in seats where one of the two main parties didn’t put up much of a fight. They came 4th in the EU elections with just 13% of the vote. At the same time it would also ensure the unstoppable rise of the BNP as working class voters ceased to see voting BNP as a wasted vote.
And, with the uk being the last country to come out of recession (if ever) and having a destroyed economy, a debt at such a level that it’s doubtful we’ll even be able to keep the interest payments going, a bond market that’s just about to say “oooh, too risky, not buying those anymore”, the bbc is simply ignoring the government/economy completely and trying to do its best to decrease the tory vote by highlighting nothing other than what cameron’s going to do about lisbon.
Every news story on the bbc at the moment, regardless of what the actual story is, is leading on the “but, if cameron was in charge then he’d kill your granny” approach.
Do you reckon Mark Thatcher will be at the airport to greet Simon Mann?
Do you reckon Gordon Brown will be at the airport to meet the coffins of dead British soldiers?
Is that “Old Etonian” Simon Mann, as he is usually named? Funny that the yet to be jailed Blair is never called “Old Fettesian”, or whatever, in the press – double standards?
I hereby accuse Gordon Brown of treason against the United Kingdom.
I shall make a citizen’s arrest in the next 7 days.
Go for it! Unfortunately can’t make it that day to help you out.
Lisbon Treaty
Cast iron guarantee, cracked.
Knight to Bishop 3,
Czech
Rook off.
It’s all right for Dave in his Castle talking Queens english all Knight about the national Bish-up when I’ve got f–King nothing even to pawn!
Please remind me – who is in Government and broke their promise for a referendum on the Constitution/Treaty?
Isn’t it funny how selective the Labour luvvies memories are.
MB is a classic example of that.
Or to young to remember Labour pre-1979…
The arguement used for the sell off of Gold is that they bought euros which have appreciated
June 99 Gold $275/ounce = £174 approx (1.68 rate) £1 bought 1.5 euro approx = 261 euro.
261 euro now is worth £237 approx now, so 237 -174 = 63/ 174 = 36 %
gold was 275 now say 1000 = 263%
He also bought US dollars the prat. The guy is a Hoon no other way to describe him.
Details, details………..
And we would still have the gold, 36% of nothing is still nothing in my book but Gordon is far more expert in financial matters than me viz a nought % increase, just cant get my head around these technical definitions.
You guys have to see Littlejohn today, he sums it up perfectly.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1224801/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Who-think-youre-kidding-Mr-Darling.html
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler If you think Old Englands done. DONE, you have been.
Looking at the comments earlier in the thread the BBC should do a series; Escape from this Country, the best places to go, relative cost of living, healthcare, money transfer etc. sure to be a hit but obviously not politically correct for albeeb.
What really puzzles me is why no one has had a shot at Brown.
Not enough firearms in private hands. They thought of that one.
I can’t stand that pompous ex school teacher, John McFall. He deserves six of the best.
he is prone to be vociferous in his desire for fairness whilst at the same time being an utter troughing twat
In the late nineties, companies racked up huge debt on management information systems, supply chain manegement and general capacity expansion and got themselves into huge debt causing the “tech wreck” crash of 2000. Brown followed Greenspan in lowering rates to encourage consumers to borrow and spend in the greatest asset bubble in history. This was a government inspired policy of transferring debt from imprudent compnaies to consumers.
Now companies again racked up huge debt in the mid-noughties and are now being bailed out by trnasferring corporate debt to public debt by printing money and giving it at record low rates to banks and companies (with no real help to consumers).
This government is actively bailing out imprudent banks and corporations for the second time in a decade without a second thought to help out small companies and consumers that actually drive the economy forward.
Every Labour governemnt in history has increased public debt and unemployment, leaving the poorer sections of society worse off.
Jonah really is Jinxed as he will not admit that his policy execution as opposed to his good intentions have destroyed wealth on a scale unmatched by previous administrations.
Not only that, the massive debt during the dot-com boom in the late 90s was partly due to Britains world-beating mobile phone companies being forced to stump up huge wads of cash to stay in the game with new licences, as sold by NuLiebour.
New Labour now in full electioneering mode. Johnson pulling a volte-face on immigration, Yvette Cooper laying the law down on flexible working, Mandelscum purring (in a sinister way) about students – their financial worth etc. Darling splitting up the banks etc.
Yes – I’m lying about being flexible – I mean I’m flexible and can lie anywhere you want – hang on – yeah – that’s it.
I’m a flexible kinda gal.
a v irginal Bliar Babe
You will be given one last chance. Vote U.K.I.P. or you will never vote again.
Nelson won the battle by viewing with his blind eye.
Even using his one good eye Gordon can’t see further than the end of his nose.
Maybe someone should point him in the direction of Specsavers!! On second thoughts he’d make a Balls of their business as well.
All the traitors in parliament need dancing lessons up a lampost, courtesy of piano wire or with Madame La Guillotine. (only one lesson required)
As for Eva Braun the wee scots jessie of the Downing Street bunker and Miranda Blair, well they should be hung, drawn and quartered. Or is it hanged? Either will do.
Sign of the times – the call centres are coming back to Britain!
After this news I shall seriously consider trading in the current Anglo-Saxon Nurse for a slinky subcontinental version.
Prospects not good for another football team
Brown urges support for Clach FC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8342051.stm
Most revealing article so far in the guardian, I’ll attempt with all due humility to elucidate wha the liberal c**nts are saying:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/04/cameron-eu-lisbon-referendum-reaction.
It’s the Europeans going ballistic over the prospect of facing Cameron (obviously they see him more as a fly in the ointment than we do).
“In the case of employment law, they said there was almost no chance Britain’s European partners would approve an opt-out as it would be seen as giving the UK an unfair advantage in attracting foreign investment.”
Let’s wait and see if Cameron’s got any balls at all.
“We have had 10 years of institutional debate and now is the time to talk about practical co-operation. We don’t need another 10 years of institutional debate,” said Elmar Brok, a German MEP
Yavol mein tropher!
Sylvie Goulard, a liberal MEP and the head of the European Movement group in France, said: “David Cameron is beginning to realise it’s easier to be in opposition than in be power. When you come closer to power things become more difficult. Even if the tone of this seems to be proud and British, the content is very careful.
Oh shucks! she’s playing to his upper class values. To be head of opposition to Brown is as easy an an ejector seat dummy. Just wait for the rush of air!
“It’s window dressing. If you look at what he (Cameron) says, he’s not putting into question Britain membership, because he knows that it is not in British interests. He’s taking some pieces to give people in his camp.”
Pawel Swieboda, a former Polish presidential adviser who now runs the demos EUROPA thinktank, said: “There is a big sigh of relief that he has climbed down the biggest tree, putting Lisbon in question as a lot of people feared. It’s a case of big cloud, small rain, as we say in this country.”
So – they are worried!
The Eu were shitting themselves! Ha! Dave – go for the bullsey!
Swieboda pointed out the Conservative leader made no mention of opting out of European security and defence policy, another contentious area. As for the prospect of a British sovereignty bill, requiring a referendum on future transfers of power to Brussels: “Future treaties will probably not be possible. We are moving into a situation where this is it.”
Was not that the title of a M. Jackson single? It certainly is NOT it – if we say NO!!!
Charles Grant, the head of the Centre for European Reform in London, said a sovereignty bill that restricted further encroachments on the jurisdiction of British institutions would not necessarily be controversial. But it would bring Britain into conflict with the EU’s core principles if used to strike down existing rulings by the European court of justice.
Interesting – this part. The EU Charters have not been truly absorbed into English Law. They have been merely tacked on, using definitions like “incompatible” – which have no real meaning under Common Law. We can exclude them if we really want at will!
Thanks for your input.
Brown has doomed us all…
More from Nutt, Miliband snubbed during visit to Russia, More names for Brown’s Wall of Shame, Labour sleepwalks into fresh crisis, Sir Michael Cain says ‘we need change of government’, Blair –again- on why he was the top cop and why it was the fault of everyone else, planning system at risk under Labour, Offender tracking system stuffed, Crackdown on parents. Is it fair?
We are doomed, aren’t we? They are turning on parents and students… the rest of us follow soon.
That’s rather what I was hoping any new Nurse would say.
Badum Tish!
Okay I’ll gat my coat.
Don’t worry, not much longer and Brown and his Brownies will be history, take a “chill pill” and all will be well.
From where I stand, the rest of us are already theere.
Not as easy as that Ms Lizzie, our Great Leader and the odious followers of the Left are intent on ensuring as big a mess as possible, knowing they are leaving power. They can then spend 5 years shouting at the Tories about the mess the country is in….
We’ve got six more months of scorched earth policies before we see the back of the repulsive Brown. Do you think the country can take it?
chill pill?, need cryogenic freezing with the timer set to 2050 for de-frost.
The problem is we still have another 6 – 7 months of this and it is only going to get worse.
There’s many that wonder if that will happen.
Agreed, BillyBob. Nothing would please Labour more than to blame someone else for their massive mistakes – and we all know how many of them there are.
The “left” say it’s all the fault of Mrs Thatcher anyway – someone should tell Brown & Co that she’s been out of power for almost 20 years and that we’ve purportedly had a Labour government for almost 13 years and remind me who created the present useless financial regulatory system ? who ruined the world’s best private pension scheme? who sold gold at an all time low ? who encouraged the consumer boom on borrowed money to finance his overspending ?and FINALLY who bankrupted Britain for generations to come – Brown that’s who. The “left” are fond of demonising Thatcher I suggest that once we kick Brown and Labour out that we make it compulsory for every child in this country to be taught who has saddled them with a lifetime of debt- who has blighted the hopes of generation by telling them to go to university and for which all “graduates” have got is no hope of a job;£15k-£20k debt for a worthless piece of paper and if they’re very very luck and actually win through the other 80 graduates applying for the job a lifetime flippin burgers in McDonalds.
And Labour’s stooges at the BBC will be leading the attacks on the Tories every step of the way unless Cameron grasps the nettle and sorts out the BBC and it’s blatant Labour-bias as soon as he gets into power.
Idiot.
EB = Ed Balls
Brillo was brilliant on lunch time politics show, gave John McFall a good grilling. Luvly jubbly!