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Krugman is Seductive, Simplistic and Unrealistic | Jeremy Warner
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I Told You So: Euro is Doomed | Douglas Carswell
PM Speaks for the Nation When Bashing Balls | Quentin Letts
Time for an Alliance | Dan Hannan
Farage’s Plan | ConservativeHome
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Jon Cruddas is Not the Messiah | Dan Hodges
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Lord Lamont told ITV News…
“I think the PM is just human and Ed Balls is a pretty irritating person”
The world is flat got it!’
No, the Sun revolves around the Earth.
The God Johnson, a deity of unparalled wisdom and intellect hath spoken and adjudged…who are mere scientists to doubt His judgement??
At least he didn’t get burnt at the stake unlike Gordon ‘Wicker Man’ Brown.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/conservative-mps-expenses/6480680/MPs-expenses-David-Wilshire-compares-treatment-of-politicians-to-Jews-in-Nazi-Germany.html
David Wilshire, the disgraced Conservative MP, has compared the treatment of politicians over their expense claims to the plight of Jews in Nazi Germany.
In a letter to the Guardian, Alan Johnson says Prof Gordon Brown went against a “long established” principle by straying into politics.
What a fucking arsehole. If he wanted to compare anything to the treatment of the Jewish banking caste by the Nazis he might have got more mileage out of highlighting the scape-goating of the bankers by this fucking government in precisely the same manner as the Nazis.
Yeah. The economies fucked. But it wasn’t hard-working (and insane and reckless borrowing) voters or your imbecile government that fucked it. Hell no. It was the (Jewish) bankers what fucked it.
Oh yeah?
There’s the parallel with history numbnuts.
not even close No MP’s have been murdered YET !
We have no quarrel with honest MPs who have lived off their salaries.
Well at least we’ll only need one small camp for the fuckers – may I volunteer as chief shower operator?
Is that the Financial Sun my son. Murdoch press
I thought the world revolved around the Labour Party.
‘On departmental business, Home Office staff are encouraged to make use of in-house transport facilities…..”
http://tiny.cc/azj7y
Please ignore above link ( unless you like Radiohead ), it was supposed to be the Jesus Horse. Bugger!
IMHO Johnson was right to do what he did and the scientist was wrong to try and discredit the government. “Experts” give so called advice, they do not make the law.
If we were to listen to the in vogue experts then governments would tax us because the planet is warming even thogh the collected data shows that it is cooling. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the government was advised that the Arctic would be ice free within ten years because it was melting like never before this year but the real data shows that this summer`s pack ice was on the increase not a thaw.
A Well done to Mr Johnson from this Tory
you gotta laugh
fuck off fascist
Professor Nutt is a nutcase. Just beacause falling off a galloping horse is more dangerous than taking ecstacy does not make the drug safe to use or sensible to legalise. With experts like that who needs experts?
I agree with Johnson too. It’s enough to make one weep when you see kids and young people doped up in the street and in parks. Never mind the trouble that goes with it.
Divorced from reality.
But then, 300 people die a day from tobacco related diseases, that’s one every 5 mins or less, but who gives a toss?
And another well done from this long way right of center blogger. “Experts” are too often devoid of real expertise, and for every expert there is another with an opposing point of view.
We want democracy and, in a triumph of hope over experience, still hope one day to get it. We do not want government by self proclaimed experts.
Expert – x is an unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under extreme pressure
A bit like a politician then?
“Ex” is a has-been, surely?
I’m willing to bet that Nutt knows more about drugs than Postie. Once again this arrogant government thinks it knows best – drugs, education…
‘Experts are paid to serve and not pass comment’ – you are a fuckwit. Next time you cross the road, could you please do it with your eyes shut and your hands over your ears. If you make it across, try it again, in fact keep on trying it … until, well – you get a feeling for ignoring evidence.
On balance, evidence indicates that there is climate change and that climate change is due to human activity. It doesn’t necessarily follow that taxing humans will stop climate change. On balance, the evidence indicates that ecstasy and cannabis are less ‘harmful’ than alcohol and tobacco. It doesn’t necessarily follow that the home secretary is going to ban alcohol and tobacco and legalize and tax ecstasy and cannabis.
On balance, evidence indicates that there is climate change and that climate change is due to human activity
Of course there is climate change, there always has been and always will be. To think that humans are more powerfull than the the sun, the moon, Earth’s volcanos and shifting plates,, the oceans, the rest of creation and the deep carbonn cycle is arrogance, sheer arrogance. When was global warming dropped and climate change taken onboard as the new mantra?
You can read about it on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change.
Or better still read up on the scare for grants industry http://wattsupwiththat.com/
Global Warming was rebranded as Climate Change when it was scientifically proved beyond any doubt that the Earth is in fact cooling.
A mixture of global dimming & sun activity were identified as prime influences on “un-global warming”.
Johnson has certainly done me a favour. The ganja crop in Ninety-Acre Wood was down a bit this year, with the lack of sun, but it’s still a good source of tax-free income. If he were to legalise the stuff I’d face cheap imports and have to go back to paintballing.
Haven’t Noo Labor got previous on this? Balls Up did the same with his advisors recently. I can see a (not very pretty) pattern.
Yes I agree, Experts are usually devoid of any common sense.
Whether he was right or wrong it was not a good message to send out to our children.
Also two climate change scares today already.
Apparently the Ganges is going to dry up and foreign earthworms are invading the south.
I agree. Everyday I see pedestrians walking out in front of oncoming traffic only to get run over. If they used some common sense, closed their eyes, and walked across the road then theyd be fine.
Utterly moronic. Define ‘advice’. And where’s your evidence (yep, evidence) of an attempt to ‘discredit the government’? Was this some sort of reverse smear then?
If the Government chooses (as it has said) to use expert advice to formulate policy, then it should do what it says it will do. If the Government decides in its wisdom to make policy up as it goes along then it should do that. What we can’t have is a Government which says one thing and does another. Err….
That is this goverments MO this past 12 years. decide what they want top happen and then get some ‘evidence’ to justify it. Hence the ridiculous budget statements backed up by ‘independent’ treasury research.
Any time anybody steps out of line they are instantly declared a non-person and their findings buried. see David Kelly for details. But prior to that try finding the report HMG had commissioned by Sir James Crosby to ‘justify’ their insane ID card scheme. Sir James would do no such thing so the report was buried.
This government has abused facts and stats since day one to hide its insane incompetence and it is only now that folk can’t borrow another 20K this year because their home, incredibly, hasn’t increased in value by 15% yet again that they are finally waking up.
But the damage has been done.
We’re fucked.
Utterly fucked.
So this drugs “expert” would rather his daughter take LSD than take part in the local gymkhana?
No, he wasn’t expressing his preferences was he? He was talking about the statistical chances of death. But perhaps you didn’t quite understand that.
But this is not a scientific statistic about drugs use, it is a political statistic.
Drinking rough cider sends you blind, playing rugby can result in blindness. Both are true but they have no relationship to each other.
The professor has strayed from science into politics, that is his choice but he should accept the consequences.
WTF is a ‘political statistic’ in your view?
LOL. Unsworth you have hit the nail on the head.
Government scientist, and experts in their field, are paid Civil Servants. They are nothing special. The key is to be able to ignore their biased view and make decisions on the ability to run a country.
Simply if you take the money then you are a Servant. You abide by the rules and shut your mouth. If you are private funded, then yell and scream all you like. But there is no possibility of being partly pregnant. On the same grounds Police chiefs need silencing except were a government published a report they create.
On the theory of what is good for society, you really are dumb if you think it is down to death rates and severe illnesses. Society can not be run if a perfectly normal looking person is in a zombie non-natural state. If an individual can one day can do a job then the next be so optimistic that even a JCB could not hurt them, the commercial world will not work.
We all need our vices. But they must be limited and controlled. This is due to one big reason. There are so many of the population that need to cheat and do illegal acts to get ahead. They want to make money. They are the criminal leaders. If you make everything they do legal then they just move on to more severe trades. (Do note that this is our MPs area of true expertise. They are those criminal types exploiting a system for their own gain. Adequately proven recently)
So government is simply drawing a line in the sand. It is arbitrary. Some think it is un-fair, some think it is too far. But then they go to elections and they are judged. Did they draw it in the right place?
Notice how the line changed depending on their closeness to an election. That is a real indication of how drugs effect our society. They know it, and they can not afford their failed experiment to be used against them.
But the advisory committee are not paid civil servants. They give their advice for free in the (naive) wish to help the community at their own expense.
Unlike our pocket-lining MPs.
Somebody told me that David Nutt is a fucking nutter. Then again, that somebody was Mike Crapper, and he’s usually full of shit.
let the tory who is without sin cast the first stone
Right, where’s the target (McSnot) then?
Can I throw a boulder at Gormless Gordon ??
well done LibDems for speaking out on this one
Best so far, Does Guido like it as it pokes fun at the pointy hatted one?
Nutt should have known better. After all, he must have seen academic colleagues shot down in flames for daring to criticise the head of department either over policy or the type of biscuits chosen for faculty meetings. So why would he think he could get away with piddling in the government’s pocket? It makes no sense.
so he should have dome what then, agree his findings were totally spurious? written on the back of a fag packet down the pub? in a world were right is wrong and wrong is right how exactly was he supposed to tread????
or are we all new labour now?????
Meanwhile, I give my boss or my clients advise. They take or they don’t. I don’t go running round telling everyone why my boss or my client is an idiot.
Or I might get sacked, or have my contract terminated. If it were a matter of principal, I could resign. As Nutt could have.
You are right. He should never have taken the job in the first place. Everyone knows this government has no use for facts, so there would always come a point where he had to choose between acquiescing in a pack of lies or going down in flames.
The resination bit is a good point.
Nutt has not suggested a policy, just given the scientific facts
Straws inability to successfully compute these facts led to his very juvenile semi-tantrum yesterday.
NuLieBore Stepford wives beginning to short-circuit live on TV?
Apparently Brain Haw was arrested on Friday 30th Oct at about 7pm.
Freedom in the UK? Er no.
The only freedom we have remaining is the freedom to conform and agree with the government or be sacked or arrested. Cases in point are Brain Haw and David Nutt
Apparently Brain Haw was arrested on Friday 30th Oct at about 7pm.
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Freedom in the UK? Er no.
The only freedom we have remaining is the freedom to conform and agree with the government or be sacked or arrested. Cases in point are Brain Haw and David Nutt
see http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/10/440918.html
http://www.demotix.com/news/brian-haw-back-parliament-square
31st Oct by Peter Marshall
Brian Haw Back in Parliament Square
I called into Parliament Square this morning to find Brian Haw was still in custody, and there were two other protesters continuing the vigil. Following his arrest at 7pm yesterday, he was taken to Belgravia Police Station where he was held overnight. He was taken to court around middday where police were forced to release him. There does not appear to have been any substantial charge, and taking him into custody yesterday appears simply to have been another round in the continuing harassment of him and his fellow protesters in Parliament Square by police.
It was good to see him back in his customary place in the square continuing his protest later in the day – although as we have several times in the past remarked, a continuing shame on the nation that he still has cause to continue to protest.
His arrest seems another example of the police being a law unto themselves, imposing arbitrary temporary periods of detention. Its timing may possibly be related to next week’s parliamentary debate on the Constitutional Reform and Governance Bill which includes a repeal of the sections of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 and the provision of new powers under Part 2 of the Public Order Act 1986. Having bothered to read these I don’t feel much wiser about the proposed law and what effect they may have on the continuing protest in Parliament Square.
The protesters have also been trying to obtain police film footage of incidents in the square, and the police have so far failed to meet their obligation to supply this. The latest outrage may be in some way a time-wasting procedure related to this, and it was one of the things the that the two men were arguing about at the time of the arrest.
The officer who arrested Brian Haw yesterday has also arrested him on at least one previous occasion and it seems a possibility that he may have become too personally involved in the situation in the square.
It really does seem time that there was a proper and public inquiry into the policing of this protest over the years.
Haw is a tiresome and scruffy oik who should be taken off benefits and arrested a bit more often.
Well done, Plod and Knacker.
I’m fairly certain that he does not claim benefits of any kind. As far as I’m aware, your other 2 assertions are not covered by legislation -criminal or civil. He is the tell-tale nose on the Pinnochio that is New Labour and has my admiration and respect.
True voice of a copper…
In the UK in 2009, under a new labour government, we cannot have protest of any kind. This is what we fought the second world war for. It is now a crime to disobey our government, whether a poor person or a scientist. It matters not. This government, representing the establishment and powers that control us only represents these people NOT THE POPULATION. This is what we fought the second world war for.
WAKE UP PEOPLES
Yes I would agree, under Labour Britain has become a “Nanny State” big time. I heard on the TV this morning if fags and booze were just discovered they would be banned substances by this government, give that some thought.
Well, we can have protest if you’re a postman or a bin-man or – more relevantly – a union member.
Now, how many people are entitled to such privilege? Is it only Trade Union members who can protest? Which Union do I have to join to be allowed to protest?
Who is bringing up this clowns numerous children whilst he plays martyr?
Yeah, arrest the work shy dole hoon.
He is no hero, he is a parasite.
Another scientific mis-fact, the Tories will carry out a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
look on it like this, how often do you change the wallpaper or carpets, at least every 12 years?
Time for change. Simple as that.
They’re coming and there ain’t nothing you can do about it.
The smell from the Trough is particularly malodorous this morning.
Now you mention it, I have never changed my wallpaper or carpets. Thats probably why they smell like shit.
Change them all and claim it back on the Additional Costs Allowances. We always do.
No, it’s that H Block paint you’ve been using.
Another smear.
Things have gone downhill it used to be frankinsence !!
A rengotiation ?? Rome , Bonn, Masstricht, Lisbon mmmm Cw thinks next one should be Salford ! I would like to know what Dave means a little first before I get too angry , but it does not get by the fundamental issue (that is bandied as streamlining) that this treaty takes us further down a road that i do not wish to travel , already we can see how it tells us how to sell of our banks !!
speaking of wich , any suitor for these banks will be wanting a detailed balance sheet , so we may at last get to know what these debts are that the government have gone to such lengths to keep secret . cant really comment until we see how hes going to do it , but I broadly agree that we are going to lose a load of money and whoever buys them will be well off in 8 yrs time .
10 years was the given time for debts to melt off the balance sheets and the true worth would then be (perhaps) more than what we put in , so this early sell off does not realise the bailout money . The geographical carving up is perhaps more interesting , but again it seems as though he will make us take the toxic assetts , direct line , churchill and greenflag are well known brands so no problem there , but then RBS will just have to explain how the rest of its operations look , as most of debt must be in whats left .
But even then to repay half the debt in 4 years needs somthing in the order of about £250bn , and Cw thinks that these banks are no way going to make even £50bn , but I will have to wait to see what projections Darling is going to try and impress us with , basic equation must be sales value- (£28bn bail out) ,less toxic assetts , which will no doubt make darling chutneyed for the hsitory books . Darling has alot of detail to explain , but it whiffs of a hustle rather than UK benefit . Wonder if he consulted with BOE prior ???
so wwhich banks will be partners in the bids !
should get some good analysis on this blog
‘While Rome burns, we all get stoned’
(P.S. Yes, the lizards have taken over the asylum. David Icke was a great prophet.)
As a past Altar Boy you haven’t got a clue what goes on under a cassock and surplus.
Who’s that comment addressed to? Shame you can’t spell ‘bastard’.
Three Hail Marys and six Our Fathers and that is the correct spelling of Basterd, ask Quentin Tarantino
Ok, got it, but isn’t it ‘TarEntino’?
I detest prefects and goody two shoes, did you use to polish the apple
or surplice
Or….. surpluce
can’t spell surplice either
“As a past Altar Boy you haven’t got a clue what goes on under a cassock and surplus.”
By all accounts Inglorious – you must be in the ‘handful’ (eeeoowww) of altar boys who DOESN’T know what goes on under under a cassock lol (only joking – or am I?).
I use to be an alter boy, then I changed.
Throw me another altar boy, this one’s split.
Johnson looking increasingly paranoid over this, and you know what makes you paranoid.
HM Gov must have had a word with the Beeb yesterday (too much ‘gov are idiots’ from the science community over the weekend I reckon). To give the whole fiasco a bit of ballance, they brought in some wacked out ex druggy / christian convert to shout out the government message.
It comes to something when the only people towing the government line are overly excitable science hating ex druggies with an exceptionally tenous grip on reality… Sound like anyone we know?
A god-botherer to boot
Boycott Israel?
But its a fantastic place. Literate, economically stable, creative – the list of positives goes on & on.
Much better than when it was run by thre limb amputators & women haters.
Time for some Israeli olives – they are lush..
He has very red distinct blotches on his face and nose, a scientific sign of too much alcohol.
He looks like a fucking lizard with his multi coloured skin and bulging eyes , and as
for knowing the difference between 1st and 2nd class !they think they are first class and we are all second class !
WTF do scientists know about drugs and chemicals and fings? Bloody amateurs! I’ve been a postie, I understand the difference between first and second class.
1st and 2nd class what? Where do you get it?
1st and 2nd class: where did he get it?
Johnson’s a fellow of Mount Pleasant sorting office, London…its a world renowned institution you know.
Mind you I have some sympathy with Johnson – fed up with these climate change scientists talking bollocks about ‘man made global warming’.
I wish it were true. It’s fucking chilly down here.
Didn’t seem to bother to much about climate change at yesterdays lit up grand prix, must remember to turn my stand-by light off to help out.
I won’t have these ignorant scientists meddling in state affars, especially in areas where ther is so much government expertise – we’re known as the shit government, you know.
Yeah, but it aint ‘good’ shit.
I know aboute dope – I sit in a cabinet full of dopes.
Smoking isn’t a natural habit, nor is sticking needles in your body or snorting.
Wheras drinking is a very natural habit. Simple as that.
£50,000 invoice on its way for that bit of government advice.
Act in haste, regret and leisure. Fired by e-mail too, what is the world coming to! Prof should take them to court for unfair dismissal, he wasn’t given a hearing and he has no chance to appeal, Prof has rights he should use them.
Fired by email? Ironically, Johnson couldn’t send a letter as the postmen are on strike.
You couldn’t make it up.
Can a scanned copy of a signed termination letter sent by email be taken as a legal document?
My other half was sacked by text to the sound of the ring tone from the TV series 24. The mobile was thrown at a picture of Brown on our 103″ plasma and smashed the screen.
She now sits in bed watching an entire season of 24 in a day, crying why me?.
Emails are legal.
Thankyou very much for that free legal advice. Just one more question, are these posts legal?
mail came today to our house.
what strike?
Have just given this some thought, hopefully Johnson ex-union boss doesn’t become the next Prime Minister, can you imagine the trouble he would get us into.
There is a U in Bas-turd…
There is a shit in Number 10.
As a completely unbiased impartial observer who cannot stand the sight of the Prime Mentallist it occurred to me whilst sipping a can of Carlsberg Special Brew this morning at breakfast (other half thinks it’s the same as ice tea) that Brown can’t get a single solitary thing right.
Ghurkhas, helicopters, best placed to handle the recession, MP’s expenses, Afghanistan “democratic” elections, £175 billion debt and rising, supporting a liar to become EU president, abolishing 10p tax rate, Terratorial Army, the list is absolutely endless and now sacking Scientific Advisors because he don’t like the advice.
And apart from all that he’s an ugly twat.
IB, it is not that they are ignoring advice, not sure I have heard Nutt offer any advice. It is considered scientific fact that Johnson wants to deny and bury, and shoot the messenger, live on TV, all part of NuLiebore social engineering
We, the electorate, can not be trusted with the truth, we are so intellectually inferior that they have been in power since 1997 FFS!
Don’t forget Nimrods
To be fair, the Nimrod’s debacle was due to Engineering mistakes. I am sure if a proper review cycle of design changes had been conducted during the upgrades, the weakness in design would have been exposed then.
I do have some sympathy with the Safety Case being whittled down as it was a 30 year old aircraft with a good safety record with only (at the time of the review) a few years service left.
The report did highlight big holes in the RAF capability to understand whether the designs are airworthy or not. This is a result of Government dabbling over generations (since the end of the Soviet-era). So I suppose we can blame Brown…
Since “privatization” (asset stripping), all companies supplying/servicing “guvmint” but ultimately taxpayers provide minimum service/reliability/safety for MAXIMUM COST – simples – but we all know that don’t we.
WHERE OH WHERE IS WISDOM, HONOUR AND COMPASSION? – sorry, how silly of me – you can’t trade in those attributes. . .
“IT’S A BIG CLUB – AND YOU AIN’T IN IT”. RIP George.
This is a wake up moment…. when you know real life departs from Downing Street
Who left the lights on?
More drug problems for Gordon.
Strange days indeed dot dot dot
I’ll bet D’Aggio (spell?) and their alcopop-manufacturing corporate ilk are pooing their pants as they prefer guvmint ‘advisers’ to back the party line which keeps us spellbound on booze. Lots of profit$$$$$ for the corps and lots of taxes and statute ‘fines’ for guvmint to make even more profit$$$$$$$$$ from our stupidity as the ‘beast-man’!
Lets not forget that Brown halted Whisky tax increases for years.
Diageo btw…
Thanks for the spelling correction Waiting for Gordo ;0) and yes, “by their fruits ye shall know them” ie whisky tax eh!!
‘They’ are always identifiable – ‘they’ have to be apparently, or their ‘spell’ over humanity wouldn’t work – which is why we should always read between EVERY line – including the strangely timed ‘outing’ of the drug situation by Prof Nutt ie in the run up to a GE – for what good THAT will do. . .
And then they shut down production in Glasgow and fucked off, MC DOOM! MC DOOM! MC DOOM!
Port Dundas is just a cheap and nasty whisky that is used in bottom of the range blends. There are cheaper sources with better quality. Simple economics I am afraid…
Another wake up moment for Harriet Harperson – the Kelly report will be watered down and the ban on not employing family will be overturned. WHAT!!!!! This metropolitan joke with no contact with the real world and real people still does not get it. Harriet are you listening? There is a GE next May. How much more do you want to enrage the electorate? If the reports are correct then I despair. As for Wilshire likening his treatment to that of a Nazi victim!!!!!! Good job he is on his bike. I have never heard so much rubbish in my life. Beam me up Scotty.
More Politics than Health.
Government makes billions from taxing booze and ciggies – spends billions in trying to keep drugs out.
When money starts to run out it is interesting how ministers are willing to uphold irrational beliefs to shore a broken economy.
1) They want a panic sale of “good” bank assets for short-term gain
2) They impose a punitive Airport duty to rob extra cash from traveling public
3) They want to privatise the Post Office – despite the Home Secretary being an ex-Communications Union boss.
4) They are bullying local governments to cut budgets, despite having to fulfill new equality laws – hence the pay-cuts that are causing chaos.
5) They need to cut the cost of big government, but are unwilling to put the knife to themselves anywhere.
6) VAT will rise next year – meaning a further drain on High Street confidence.
7) Health service is due for around 10% stealth cuts.
Good job it is only a game for them really – eh!
They are being forced to sell the banks by europe and the experts say that if they sell now they will lose about 5 billion sounds about right for this shower of shit !
spun in te MSM as a return to trusted High Street names, it’s only the names returning not the principles and ethos
but let’s start painting a nice cosy picture
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/137588/Trusted-banks-will-return-to-shake-up-competition-
Not read it..but “trusted banks” – an oximoron?
Nothing about the regulation of credit creation has changed and so the current economic problems of exponential debt then bust will occur again. The cycle of profit for the rent-seekers and then bail-out at tax-payers expense will re-occur.
We’re slaves, that’s why we’re not allowed things that we might enjoy, but might harm our productivity.
Here is a scientific fact.
Go into Stockton High Street on a Saturday night. Step in and out of the vomit and spew, duck and dive the flying fists and stiletto heels, get in a taxi driven by an alcohol-free Muslim driver, sit in your new Mohair suit in hoyed-up donner kebab on the back seat swimming around in regurgitated Bass ale, ask to be driven to the Accident & Emergency with a broken Smirnoff ice bottle in your neck and witness the carnage, chaos and blood that would make the siege of Sarajevo seem like a walk in the park.
You need some pot to forget about it…
And to think the NuLabour Islingtonians thought that relaxing licencing laws would create a wine bar culture, everyone sitting out in the sun, enjoying a glass of merlot, all smiles and peace and soooooooo French.
Got it wrong again, didn’t you, you tossers?
At least we’re consistent.
I enjoy a glass of pinot grigio but have never been a minge prodder.
Wow, Stockton, you’ve let yourself go.
I haven’t been out for a night on the town there since ‘The Mall’ years.
After witnessing Alan Johnson’s blustering it’s my ball, so NAH NAH performance on Sky TV one can only thank god we have people like David Nutt in this country who actually see the bigger picture.
If I were Alan Johnson I would shut up, make up and stop digging, its one war he can’t possibly win.
Are all postmen high ?
Is that why they strike to destroy what is left of their business ?
Should we now call them POTMEN ?
POTPEOPLE – please!
No postmen. No postal votes.
So cui bono then…?
have a good halloween then?
Don’t worry, they’ll make it so you can vote online. That way, the “wrong kind of votes” can be discreetly “rectified”. They’ve probably already written the software.
O F C O U R S E ! ! ! –
“Don’t worry, they’ll make it so you can vote online.” – Ratsniffer
Thanks for that Ratsniffer – I didn’t ‘see’ that angle this time – too busy ‘seeing’ so many other diversions… ‘They’ would have no compunction, imo, of destroying any long-standing or national institution in order to manipulate an election – they’re ‘globalists’ of course ie world dominationalists and enablers thereof.
D I E B O L D is allegedly how ‘W’ or George W Scherff – (allegedly again) – was elected….
Nice one Ratsniffer – I’m obviously not as ‘awake’ as I think I am!!
So if that’s the case then, we could have Lord Mandlescum forced upon us all…FOREVER!! Surely he must see that very soon the ‘UK’ will also be mere history – if these bastards ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS TREASON!
If you want a vision of the future, imagine Mandelbum shitting on the peoples’ faces – forever.
Think I might as well go on OH’s little walk on Thursday – at least if I get arrested I can blame Prof Nutt for making me smoke all that dope that made me vote NuLabour in 97 – probably get sectioned and fed for life if i’m sufficiently lucky ;o)
Got to be another blow to some Labour M.Ps chances of being re-elected then, all that printing of bogus/fictitious names and addresses ready for the electoral register gone to waste, as we know its impossible to determine who lives where and when these days.
Has anyone tried lighting a skunk? Seriously, this government poses a greater risk to my health than booze, fags or Gordon’s pills. Pat should have gone to SpAdSavers.
What DR Nutt said was horse riding (Eventing ) Was more dangerous than extacy . Over 30 people a year die doing that whilst only about 10 die from extacy !
He also said the government were wrong to say “Skunk weed” Was Lethal as no one has ever died from smoking weedand that alcohol and tobacco are a lot worse than most drugs as they kill thousands of people every year !
These are facts !
I’d like to die from ecstasy but my neighbour’s wife won’t let me. Bill and Ben knew about weed back in the 50s and 60s but did sound a bit funny.
Have you seen those Badminton fences ? Scary, very scary . Not entirely relevent to does skunk do bad things to young scrotes , however, so not sure what Nutts’ argument was.
There is a serious point to this – Nutt has chosen to take ‘global harm’ as his measure for categorising the risks.
Horse riding vs MDMA is probably fair, as the numbers involved are fairly similar – at least as many people pop a few E’s on the weekend as go on point-to-points or gymkhanas.
Drink vs pot? I know (anecdotally – it was my wife) that drink will kill you, and I also know (anecdotally – from 30 years of smoking it) that pot is safe and won’t cause your liver to fail, your kidneys to fail and won’t make you die in intensive care after three weeks of hell.
I also know some people who are now paranoid schizophrenics (again – anecdotal evidence is no evidence) through smoking ‘skunk’.
Individual harm vs global harm – this is what should be debated, not swept under the carpet and buried by the sacking of advisors.
Nutt is right, but only in a strictly Benthamite way – the opposing (individual vs global) view of harm has some validity and should be heard and debated on its merits.
Having said all that, may I just add that Postman Pat is a complete Hoon.
Johnson is practising screw-ups because he wants to be leader of the Party.
his somewhat ruddy expression and thin glinting eyes planted on an increasingly bulbous head suggest to the experts that Johnson is about to implode
Nutt is entirely accurate in everything he has said – what Johnson wants, as labour want in everything, is 100%control. It is the defining factor of the fascist government.
Let’s try to image how it would work if Johnson’s desires came about – he would have a scientific panel that would be forbidden from publishing, unless the papers they wrote supported government policy. These people would not be scientists if they agreed to that. What would you call scientists who came together with government and non-governmental advisors and spin doctors, to negotiate and decide and adopt some quasi-scientific agreed “consensus” position, and agreed that anythign they published would be within this agreed consensus? Could you call that science? Muzzled and gagged, to suit the current political line, with the implicit threat of govt funding cuts or publications boycotts if you stepped outside the line? Is that science? Of course not. Oh, unless it’s climate change science, where that’s all totally okay and proper and the media thinks it’s fine.
Dig made, this is a nasty business. If you stop scientists from giving straight answers to a straight question, stop them publishing, then what’s the point? You won’t get any credible people comign forward. Also, once again, this demonstrates that Labour are simply *thick*. This is a totally self-made, unecessary political crisis. Johnson bought this on himself – no need for it. Thick. Thick as pigshit. No political skills. A pisshead too, by the look of it.
East Germany here we are!
The path to Soylent Green starts somewhere, mad cow was just a hiccup
no not Margaret Beckett
We may be able to take “Fancy a Chinese” or “I could murder an Indian” literally.and Cumberland sausage,Melton Mowbray pork pie etc will take on new meaning.Long ago Swift suggested producing Irish babies to eat would solve over population and food shortages there.Fancy an Iris Tuoh anybody?
Johnson needs to chill out.
You bastard!
Made me get out ‘Orbus Terrarum’ and my bong!
Oxbow Lake – classic.
On the “plus” side though I take this as more signs of implosion from the last days inside the bunker.
It’s typical of this shower that the more they try to control the narrative, the worse the reaction is. People simply aren’t afraid of them being in power any more and we’re actually seeing the dissent for the first time.
My guess ? It’s always been there – although probably a shade less strident in the early days.
But Gordhoon’s changed all that – he’s got to have his “yes” people around and the “comply or die” mentality runs right through the rump end of this guvmint. Like begets like….
Don’t hear a lot about “government of all the talents” any more, do we ? Always was light on the “talent” end of the equation.
It’s like minute, undetectable cracks that first appear in a dam, they start to proprogate and spread and finally the dam bursts.
And as the countdown to the election with maximum 212 days ticks away the crack propogation in the governmant and labour party will not be a pretty sight.
http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/4a32d532f8610fed/4a45b11625b0a519/4a33a279df04667d/e622761b
Very soon carnage and chaos will engulf all Westminster, the walls of jericho will come tumbling down, decaying and stenching corpses will lie in the Mall untouched and the undertaker with cart will stalk Whitehall reminiscent of the Black Death and bubonic plague ringing his school bell and shouting “‘bring out your dead”.
Cue for a video clip.
..So why did the Government take the same advice as the real thing when they wanted to promote no smoking in public places? Fuc*king half wits!
I wonder if there’s another scientist somewhere who’s brave enough to stand up and at least recommend that pubs be allowed to have a ‘smoking room’ instead of the poor smokers standing in the cold outside.
I’ve never been a smoker but this legislation is LUDICROUS and responsible for a lot of people losing their livelihoods and in some cases their homes.
This zanuliebore movement is fascist through and through – a vehicle of dark forces manipulating us all – and if they’re not part of the ‘movement’ – then they’re cowards for not speaking out.
Don’t be so sure they listened to real science on that one either.
The FDA couldn’t find anything on secondary smoking so made it all up, they were found out and prosecuted in US courts. The World Health Organisation dropped their investigation after coming up with zilch, this was later reported by the telegraph.
Reality is, our government takes advice from scientists so they can make a ‘government report’ claiming to be science backed, wether they are or in most cases, not.
Porn. There’s a beauty. Government scientists states its harmfull, government also states vast majority of the public agree with it.
Reality…
Nearly three hundred scientific studies stated the opposite!
The only government study into what people thought showed people were against it by 2:1. Even then, those people were being told it was harmfull.
The rules are quite simple, If it comes from Zanu, it is deceit.
>> Time to privatise the BBC! Have a glance at their latest cock-up!!!!!
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/privatise-the-beeb/
History of Britain…. a biased view…He was once a member of the Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory. At Cambridge, Marr says he was a “raving leftie”, and he acquired the sobriquet of ‘Red Andy’. Nice one BBC.
Can’t we just be left to decide ourselves?
Reckon Marr’s about the same age as me (45) – and I don’t remember him at Cambridge, despite my being a lefty radical twat at the time. I was the one who organised the sit down protest that blocked Westminster Bridge during the student grant protests, and was pretty well plugged in to the lefties at the time (watch out Woollas – I’ll get you back for being a police spy one day…).
I do remember Bernard Jenkin though – pay back the 63 grand, you troughing git!
This latest sacking of a whistleblower is a walk in the park for “new” liebour, unlike that other scientist who took a walk in the woods.
But legalising drugs won’t stop smack heads walking the street and the criminals will simply move on to something else.
Many activities are probably more dangerous than smoking pot, just walking the streets at night time is dangerous thanks to Nu Liebour and their 24 hour drinking culture.
Most parents would see horse riding as a good activity for their kids to undertake, but most probably wouldn’t think their 14 year old daughter doing a line of coke (unless those parents work for the BBC) is such a good idea.
Why not legalise gun ownership as well? Making guns legal takes the criminality out of it, the Government can then control who has a gun and the government will also get taxes from gun sales.
Remember Kelly? Let’s hope Prof Nutt doesn’t go for a walk in the woods!
Meanwhile, Labour’s immigration scandal won’t go away and is destined to lose them many more seats at the next election:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article6898174.ece
link no longer there – anyone copy it?
Here’s the link to the Sunday Times article about Labour’s covert mass immigration policy:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article6898174.ece
Miliband is on Sky news trying to look important in Moscow,sucking up to the Russians about Iran,Iraq etc .He mentioned Qum,which should remind everyone he’s a juvenile wanker.Hope Putin arranges afternoon tea.But even if he does Postman Prat should be able to sort it,being such an expert on all mind altering things ingested.
Dr David Kelly criticized this government and ended up dead so be very carefull what you say Professor Nutt and dont go for any long walks in the country on your own, you might be found dead behind a tree of a “Drugs overdose” !
What do these scientists think they are up to, going around telling the truth? Where would it end? Next thing might be the ex-Royal Society having to apologise for talking bollocks about the global warming scam.
This sort of thing needs to be stamped out at once.
Agreed, why soon the population will expect justice, truth and honesty from the establishment.
And politicians taking advice — come on!
Gordon wants to know what day of the week Black Monday fell.
Black Monday refers to Monday, October 19, 1987, when stock markets around the world crashed.
The next Black Monday is tomorrow.
That would be Tuesday followed by Wednesday and Thursday and….
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.
oh come on, how can Black Monday fall on a Tuesday, really,
Got up this morning and shot a Banker in my pajamas, how the hell he got in my pajamas, heaven knows.
This talk is dayist. Who are you calling Monday?
Didn’t get to Friday (Robinson Crusoe), Sort that one out in an employment tribunal. Saying thank fuck its Friday is an arrestable offence under race hate law, not to mention dayist.
It took the Times long enough to pick up on that story. Why has CMD not said anything about Neathergate? In fact who has mentioned it in the Media? No questions about it at PMQs last week.
At the moment, it’s one persons word.
If someone produced and published the original, unedited report, and compared it with the published report, and that confirmed Neathergate’s word, then THAT would be a story.
If another ex-SPAD, or informed insider, independently confirmed Neathergate, THAT would be a story.
As it is, it might be a Nulab insider leaving a little bait for the political right to sieze upon, only to be shot down by a concerted (pre-orchestrated) howl from the Nulab attack-dogs of “wrong, wrong…..look at the smears from the Right!”
Cynical, moi? After 12 years of nu lab spin, you betcha….
Ive noticed that nobody has even commented on this shit cartoon ! They are so fucking rubbish nobody even looks anymore !
Good point, very well put, deserves a response
Well – it’s caused quite a lot of comments, some of them broadly related to the subject that gave rise to the cartoon’s basis, so on that measure, the cartoon was a success.
As an expert in these matters, I think this cartoon has severe religious overtones. The purple backcloth reminiscent of the duality that is global warming and child poverty. The figure takes a somewhat hypocritical pose in that he appears to have deity on his side and yet is caught smoking at the same time. My suggestion, and it is merely a suggestion, nothing like wanting to determine policy of any sort whatsoever, in any form of governmental scenario, at all, whatsoever, is that this is a new labour scam of proposterous proportions and that Alan Johnson should be shot on the grounds that he is a complete and utter wanker.
That’s my mate you’re talking about!
Seems this shower of shit havent taken any advice on children buying Alco pops and wandering the streets absolutly shit faced not one offlicence gets shut down or prosecuted !
Shut down an offy on a sink estate? A recipe for big trouble. Best avoided.
Whats the point, utter gesture politics. If you live in that environment, you aren’t going to be short of an adult or two to buy the stuff for you !
Dead right, but our Lord’s and Masters usualy blame
1 The Offy Manager/staff
2. Yoof
3. Police
4.Parents
(in no particular order)
Basically anyone but themselves as they quaff their own whatever it is.
In a world where the UK government is ever becoming less and less relevant,
Alan Johnson’s hissy ft only confirms the systems tenuous hold on public opinion.
The premise that the individual should only have an opinion through the government of the day is facile in the extream.
Alan Johnson does not speak for the individual his insistence to the contrary speeds onward the irrevocable decline of a flawed and outdated system.
Err.. read politicians – not just gummunt.
My apologies…..
Pope Postman 1st.”You’re sacked Galileo.It’s not Papal policy that the world is round.Otherwise why do people go over the edge on ecstasy and all that other shit?And what do you think happens to the missing mail?”And the earth doesn’t spin any more than I do. Trust me.”
“Mr Cameron, what is the Conservative’s Party’s policy on recreational drugs?”
“It’s important to remember follicle goosefeather wapcaplet listen to the public chronicle rhinitis umbellifer Broken Britain clunk micturition urfer rumption mésalliance prune yogurt fixing the roof while the sun shines electric eel echidna elephant eleemosynary inclusive endoscope phalarope pianoforte spoon penguins plug spanner radical overhaul canal flippers….”
Well Dave prefers Skunk, Gideon cocaine, Hague a gallon of ale and Ken a whisky and ciggies.
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
With half the cabinet admitting to smoking cannabis (which would have made them in possession of an illegal substance in the past) will they call the police and grass (Excuse the pun) on themselves for their previous crimes?
In a roomfull of Government I would, on principle, Bogart. Fuck ‘em – they can get their own.
We are all criminals now, but the Government will help us with our re-hab, see the light try Doing the Right Thing!, hard working families etc etc. Vote Labour!
don’t be silly, they don’t like retrospective action against themselves
Postman Johnson is a Nazi
A bit better than their usual toilet humour, but what’s the pope got to do with it?
Toilet humour? It’s not that good. I like a bit of toilet humour tbh, not this though.
Anyone else read the disturbing article in the Telegraph about the time bomb posed by quantitative easing? Imagine Britain ten years down the line under the present zero-interest policies.
The Labour mantras get repeated every time one of their politicians speaks on the TV – blah blah blah – they are doing the only thing to tackle the crisis – blah blah blah – the opposition would have caused catastrophe by their inaction. Do we ever get a real economic expert to voice the truth? It seems to be only Labour spin that the gullible public are allowed to hear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6480289/It-is-Japan-we-should-be-worrying-about-not-America.html
It will be hard for Pope Alan to get another scientist to kiss his ring.
Good point.
Am I alone in thinking that there may be an element of Genial Al the Postie trying to show that he can be Mr Tough?