+++ Tony Blair Held Downing Street Dinner With Kaminski +++
Guido gathers that a photo exists of a Downing Street dinner from late November 2005 in honour of the Polish Justice Party prime minister, Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz. The guests at the party included Michal Kaminski.
Guido has been unable as yet to confirm the attendance of the then foreign secretary, Jack Straw. This development spells the end of crude attempts by Labour to portray Cameron’s European allies as neo-Nazis. The credibility of the charge was undermined this morning when the Polish Chief Rabbi came out strongly in support of the smeared Polish leader of the Eurpean Conservatives and Reformists Group in the European Parliament.
Tony Blair told his dinner guests, now smeared by David Miliband and other Labour politicians as homophobes and neo-Nazis, that
“First of all can I welcome the new Prime Minister of Poland here very warmly indeed and say we are delighted to see you here in Downing Street… The relationship between Poland and Britain (is) a very strong relationship founded on a shared history and also shared values and this close co-operation lives on today through the work we are doing in the European Union together.”
David Miliband is backing Tony Blair to be EU President. Perhaps he should have checked with his old boss before smearing his friends.
The photographic evidence is being sought by Sunday papers.
Let me be the first of many to declare that Blair is a fucking Huhne.
Remember kids, Cameron not having a referendum on Lisbon is NOT a big political story. Mr Coulson assures me of this.
And anyone Eurosceptic can just fuck off.
Hey, that’s not fair!
When I said if the European Constitution was ratified before we get into power then we would not let matters rest there, what I meant was that we would not sign any more treaties unless we have a very close look at them first.
Load of shit really innit.
Thick as thieves was right all along, I am a useless c’unt!
Hannanas assures us that Cameron has something up his sleeve!
would that be making Dan Hannan look like a stupid gullible cun’t ?
F A I L
I should dearly like this to scupper the millibandwagon!!
Miliband is a twat, was a twat and will always be a twat.
we covered this in the previous topic.
The failure is entirely yours if you seriously think Lisbon does not matter
What Hannan said to Cyclops’ face in the EU parliament was one of the neatest, most accurate and most effective political fuck yous in the history of politics. Leave the lad alone.
it is you basterds fault in the first place for fucking signing the thing with no mandate to do it, you should all be fucking hung or shot every single labour member and mp.
every single undemocratic quisling fucker who endorsed signing over our country without even a shot being fired.
we’ll save some bullets for call me Dave and his cowardly refusal to have a referendum too. You can’t whine about Labour shits not having a referndum if Dave pisses in his pants at the thought of having one either.
there’s more than one way to defeat/take over a contry – war or ECONOMICALLY – and guess what our option was!!!
Labour had a manifesto promise to have a referundum. That’s a key difference between Brown and Cameron. Brown promised and reneged; Cameron has not promised.
It’s not too late though, until the election is announced the tories will not announce their policies.
And Brown’s on the breadline skint no money and no assets. Get real all these fuckers have money and its all come from the public purse.
Far right Neo-Nazi has dinnner with war-criminal
That makes me feel a whole lot better about Kaminski
TaTthe twat
WRONG dickhead! it ain’t tat
just someone who thinks Blair and Kaminski are unpleasant individuals to say the least
Eurosceptics are actually patriotics and Cameron says we are loonies, racists and fruitcakes.
Ivor
so why don’t I see you on the news protesting and organising the defence of the nation ?
I’m waiting for a definitive statement from Cameron after Klaus signs the Treaty. At which juncture I will either put my money and effort into promoting either his or UKIP’s last stance to my aquaintances, my freinds, and a wider audience via the number of websites I have parked up in addition to the websites I have running in the wider community and door knocking and anything else required of me by my local Party office whoever it be. OK?
Waiting?
Bit late now UKIP should have been setting up the barricades 2 years ago when Brown welched on the referendum. Too much time sitting back and waiting for others to do the work.
resurgemus
Your party, the conservatives, seems to be folding on this matter. If Cameron’s going to be like that in Government then I’ll wait for a proper conservative.
Resurgemus. I had more faith in your intelligence. It costs a lot of money to have local offices. It would have been a waste of time and effort campaigning for the past two years as LT was up in the air and there’s nothing anyone could do about it.
To a great extent DC has been right to put the LT to one side for the same reason. The battle of Britain starts as soon as the LT is done and dusted. Who knows; Dave may pleasantly surprise us. ‘Don’t draw bayonets ’till you see the whites of their eyes’
I fail to see what you think Cameron can do. He has clealy come out against the Lisbon Treaty in the strongest terms. He has promised a Ref. if the treaty is NOT ratified. He is not to blame if the treaty is ratified and clearly cannot hold a referendum on a treaty that is sign into law. The problem here is not Cameron but the Labour party who promised the public a referendum and did a U turn. I will also be looking long and hard at the stance to be taken by the Tories on this and where each of the parties will be at the next GE and what they say in their manifesto’s. A vote for UKIP in Euro elections is one thing a a strong voice for change in the Euro parliament but would be a wasted vote imo given there is no way they will form a government and all it does is help labour. My anger about the Lisbon Treat is directed at Blair/Brown not Cameron.
Wasted vote in terms of a GE is what I meant to say.
Just tear the treaty up. What are the EU going to do. Invade the UK. Impose economic sanctions, when the balance of trade is so much in their favour? I don’t think so!
Let me be the second!
Fuck em all Britain is owned by the Vatican anyway!
it is now
I’m off to Ukraine!! ->>>
Cameron has made too many mistakes over Europe and did anyone hear George Osborne being trashed by City type this morning on Radio 4. What is going wrong with Cameron’s project?
First? You are not even the first today!
Smears and sleaze: it’s in Labour’s D-N-A.
They have got all of that practice at smears and still the useless c.unts can’t get it right!
Cameron and Miliband. There is not a fag paper between the two twats.
You know not of what you speak. Hope you know what a c*nt is!
Doesn’t seem that he does.
Let’s get some FACTS into this discussion.Tony Blair was obliged to meet JAROSLAW KACYNSKI the then Polish leader of the Law and Justice Party in Downing Street. Kaminsky was A MINOR part of the delegation. The Law and Justice Party felt a need to try and influence the voting intentions of Polish immigrants which is why the British visit was arranged. This party lost the 2007 election to the liberal Civic Platform Party,led by Donald Trusk. What is very worrying is that on 25June 2009 someone,using a House of Commons computer altered the Wikipedia entry about Kaminsky so that his extremist views were modified.WHICH TORY WORKER DID THIS? DAVID CAMERON has made a grave mistake in forming an alliance with The Law and Justice Party.He has also made a huge error in writing a begging lettter to Klaus.
Bollox you lefty twat
The photo is of Blair and Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz not Blair and Kaminsky . Marcinkiewicz resigned over an affair with a 28year old blonde.
I hereby assign Millitwat has an official disaster zone.
oh yeah, politically speaking banana boy is a total write off.
So in other words he’s the best NuLieBore have got.
alan johnson is labour’s last bullet in the chamber.
and labour should use that bullet to blow brown’s brains out.
it is the only way.
DO IT! PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER MOTHERFUCKERS!
BLOW BROWN’S BRAINS OUT DO IT NOW!
DO IT NOW
They don’t make bullets that small.
They are saving that bullet for after the election. They know he is the best chance they have got to rebuild after a calamitous defeat.
If they got rid of Brown now, the size of the defeat that the spineless hoon Johnson will suffer will finish him off. Who would want to stand now and get the blame at the ballot box for Brown’s utter shitocracy? If Johnson did, he would be thrashed and have to resign. Then after the election there will be NOBODY to attempt to rebuild under. That would see them guaranteed to be out of power if not for a generation, but forever.
Johnson has lost it already. He blew it when he had the chance to “save” labour from Brown, and (like almost all labour MPs) is utterly spineless, a coward and is clueless.
His credibility is utterly shot, as he has totally and blindly supported EVERY fuck-up and catastrophe of Blair AND Brown all along. He is irretrievably linked to Brown and Blair’s disastrous and inept and evil misrule.
how can you blow away something that does not exist ?
Not when he becomes European High Representative,more power than Cameroon.
an area of absolute ridicule
unlikely that he’ll resign, so someone will have to use the laws NuLieBour passed to stop him making inflammatory speeches likely to cause a breach of the peace
well frankly both Miliband and Blair getting jobs in Europe would be good news in that it takes them away from the Middle East.
No, it would give them the power to influence the European Army and they would send far MORE troops into the middle east!
Do you want those war-criminals in charge of the EU army?
The European whatty??
Army?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
There isn’t a euopean army, and if there was it would be about as intimidating to foreign powers as the UN is, i.e. not at all.
Mind you, the Italians had the right idea, it probably costs less to buy the local Afghans off than actually fight them !
Well it worked with Dorries.
Yes. She was much too mice – should have taken the scumbag to the cleaners.
Sorry nice not mice
It is widely reported that there is an EU force patrolling the waters of Somalia. In addition the latest kidnapped Brits yacht was located by ‘an EU vessel’. The vessel concerned was in fact a comissioned warship of Her Maj’s Royal Navy.
Is this EU Mission creep? indeed it is I think.
AL Beeb ought to have been pulled up for refering to one of HM’s remaining ships as part of the EU Navy.
Unless something has changed has the EU army gone to Afghanistan?
They’re risking a mutiny… service personnel serve for Queen and Country. Lisbon is not in force yet and the BBC should stop pretending it is.
Watch Army recruitment drop like a stone.
If the Lisbon Treaty is ratified, the post of High Representative would be merged with that of the European Commissioner for External Relations under a new title of High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. Also vice-president of the council with full supporting secretariat and foreign relations staff (embryonic foreign office)
Well according to al Beeb tonight there’s already a European Navy and Lisbon hasn’t yet been ratified.
Back on topic, can’t wait to see the News of the World with the killer picture.
Unfortunately Imperator, there is an EU Naval Force boating around teh Indian Ocean off the coast of Somalia.
There is a Eurocorps landforce to which the UK isn’t a part – but there is an EU Battlegroup.
What a farce.
Fuck off you Huhne. Who the fuck do you think you are?
You call yourself a Londoner but you seem obsessed with middle eastern barbarians. You need to sort yourself out.
I’m sorry but you lot are really going to have to improve the quality of your talking points. this is just sad.
Offering any more legal advice??
Yes. If you’re going to sue for libel, use a specialist, otherwise you’ll make a loss on the deal and look like a complete tit.
Hmmm, the only loser, so far, is McBride. Lost his job, reputation and money. Your advice hasn’t proved correct in the past has it?
I don’t see how you work that out. Going by Waugh’s piece she got half her costs, leaving her a Substantial and a half down on the deal, in net terms. She has an apology which may or may not be different to the one she had in April, but doesn’t appear to have even been published. Not even a statement in open Court. If only she’d asked Tom Watson to recommend a firm. I recall you took issue with my suggesting that there were no proceedings issued, contrary to your assertion. I was, of course right.
As any fule no, a grand is what is called in the trade a nuisance value settlement. It means “you have no case but I don’t have time for this shit. Here’s a grand now fuck off.” So much for crushing him under the wheels of your chariot. I don’t think this constitutes running over his foot with your Segway.
Are the other cases going as well as this?
so you don’t think McBride had costs too ?
Strikes me he hasn’t much change from £ 5k. Which is probably a months salary.
The court can’t hit him with unrealistic fines he’ll never pay back.
Jimmy, are you saying McBride won and that his reputation is intact?
“so you don’t think McBride had costs too ?”
No doubt Guido can tell us, but I suspect he decided it was cheaper to pay Mad Nads a Substantial.
“Jimmy, are you saying McBride won and that his reputation is intact?”
I think he took the line of least resistance. His reputation is intact in the sense that everyone thought he was a wanker to begin with.
he’ll still have needed a lawyer to advise him and read through any settlement agreement to make sure it’s full and final.
Why?
Not necessarily.
well if, he’s settling a document on DIY legals and she’s using a half-decent lawyer then he’s completely mad and leaving himself exposed to her coming back for a second bite.
As Guido told Waugh, he was speculating. His figures were not correct and given that only 3 people know the facts plus McBride, you are speculating based on speculation. Guido spoke with McBride this afternoon, he didn’t sound chipper.
You are also wrong on a number of other points. G’night. You can stay here and taunt the window lickers.
you FOOL jimmy!
If only you could base your facts on the tone of McPoisons voice
That’s not speculation that’s HARD NEWS.
Mr Fawkes thinks his own site is full of window lickers.
Says it all don’t it ?
“if, he’s settling a document on DIY legals and she’s using a half-decent lawyer”
I think I may have spotted the flaw in your argument.
“Window-lickers?” I think you have just had one of those moments, Guido.
“You are also wrong on a number of other points.”
Don’t tell me. These killer points would refute my argument entirely if only you were able to reveal them? Do you have any debating gambit other than this one, because it’s becoming threadbare from overuse.
“he didn’t sound chipper”
Well obviously that’s my case completely demolished.
Draper and O’Donnell still to go…..
Might be interesting.
Yes it is very Ratner….
O to be in with the In Crowd.
I don’t give a rat’s arse about internecine warfare between shape-shifting Labour and Tory bloodsuckers.
But, just so’s the innocent staring in at the arcane goodies might grasp the taunts, PLEASE, Fawkes, define:
window-lickers.
If you don’t know, it could be you.
The double-take brothers from the Fast Show spring to mind.
“know what?… Waaah!”
here’s a grand jimmy that should distract anyone from troughing
No, it’s now called a “Substantial”. As in “Two Substantials equals an Archer”.
LICK LICK LICK LOOK AT ME UNCLE GUIDO I CAN CLEAN THE WINDOWS LICK LICK LICK
“You can stay here and taunt the window lickers.”
Guess Guido was right
Hmmm not sure Blair having dinner with the Poles at which Kaminski attended is the same as being happy being politically aligned to his party. Smacks of Tory desperation to me.
Just shutup! allright? SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR FACTS!!
we don’t care about the facts we care about the Cameron Party Line
If only every blogger was as easy to persuade to parrot Tory Central Office propaganda. Boris is a fucking nightmare and still thinks a referendum on Lisbon is needed.
Ah the Old Good Cop Bad Cop, bothh working to the same agenda Con, oh look, the Ministry of Justice has just announced a 68 million cut in funding for elections by reducing the amount of time polling stations are open.
Good socialist, bad socialist?
Any lefty twat is a twat.
Was Milliband present at the dinner?
Are you trying to smear Kaminski by suggesting he had dinner with Milliband?
That made me laugh!
Dinner is way past Miliband’s bedtime. He’s already tucked in tight.
Yup, the Tories are a pretty desperate party at the moment, what with being consistently 23 points ahead in the polls, Britain being the only G7 country still in recession – thanks to Gordon, with Brown’s dismal popularity plummeting further into the Earth’s core with every passing day with every stupid cretinous mistake he makes.
The Tories should concede defeat now, really, shouldn’t they?
we’ll see how tough Cameron is when he runs away from a Lisbon Referendum
The European State now owns him and Ken Clarke is pissing himself laughing
Sadly true.
wonder how many Poles in this country can vote in UK elections ?
His student politics could be even more expensive than he thought.
hmm yes i mean being invited into number 10 and fated by the British pm does sound very silly,compared to being joined to a European grouping filled with loads of parties from all over Europe !.
Blair, is he that straight sort of a guy who has recently joined an organisation headed up by a former meber of the Hitler Youth?
Well said Brian, all the superstitious god botherers are a bit suspect, the Minnibands for example
The bottom line is that the Foreign Secretary is casting aspersions on a foreign MEP SOLELY to try to score political points at home. He compounds his error by insulting both the people of Poland and of Latvia.
Had the attack been made by a minister with domestic responsibilities it might be excused as all part of the political rough ‘n’ tumble. The only “desperation” evident is from the tactics being employed by Labour.
Sounds good thinking.
“We know that Milipede’s grandpa fought against the creation of a free Polish republic Mr Blair, and we would like him to apologise for backing the hated Reds.”
Looks as if the granuaida and Al beeb will need something else to bash the tories with…ho…ho…ho.
“NuLabour has decided to change its logo from a rose to a condom believing it more accurately reflects their policies. This is because a condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects the pricks, and gives you a sense of security whilst you are being screwed.”
hahahaha love it .
Great
… and gives them a feeling of security whilst they are bollocks deep into their victims.
Makes millions unemployed too.
I don’t know if you’ve covered this already, but having read the news tonight that CMD won’t be calling any referenda if Europe is ratified everything is just pointless.
The bastards.
How would covering this story help the party?
Our Dave is not yet the PM,he could win the next GE, on the other hand he lose.
Please! A small lump of mouldering fetid monkey puke would beat Brown.
Let’s not get fucking stupid.
Brown is totally fucked.
I reckon that makes Cameron about evens to be next PM then.
Optimist.
I do hope so. My concern is NuLabour’s support is around 26% – 29% if you believe the polls that is 1 in 4 and that is very worrying. How can anyone in their right minds still favour this disgraceful excuse for a government.
Well considering that 1 in 5 is either employed by the state or on benefits, you only then have to factor the people who have had a recent Lobotomy to make that 1 in 4
.
That’s not news though is it. It is established tory policy (as per website and party conference). You need to read more and listen to Alastair less.
And don’t start with the “vote UKIP” nonsense.
Anyway I was on the way out and got distracted.
That is indeed the long-time established and unchanging sell-out (sorry) policy of the tories.
and Max, you may consider casting a vote to defend the UK from hostile foreign take-over as “nonsense”, but it is actually the ONLY patriotic, sensible and non treasonous vote to cast.
Voting for ANY of the mainstream parties is a treasonous betrayal of the British people and the millions who died fighting to keep Britain free from European domination in the past!
Cameron is a traitor to this country who cannot wait to get into Number 10 and start giving away what is left of this once free and independent and world beating country.
Still, watching the tories disintegrate into civil war and become an unelectable rump will be worth getting the popcorn in for.
Labour are an utter and complete disaster, tories tearing themselves apart, and liberals being a socialist joke?
The next election will be an unofficial referendum on the EU, because if we stay in, it won’t matter which party wins.
As Her Majesty has given approval to the Lisbon Treaty, if you wish to be patriotic you should vote for her latest agreement. Anything else would be treasonous.
that’s enough fawning euro lisbon love from you Mr Clarke
the Queen only rubber stamped it as is her ceremonial role and suggesting she had any say in the matter or policy is ludicrous desperation
fraid not
all major changes require royal assent.
HM is the head of state and within her rights to refuse to sign anything she doesn’t want to.
and since the bulk of the people wanted a referendum and were promised one she should have refused to give royal assent until the people were consulted.
Well even more reason to vote UKIP. If as you say the Queen has over-rulled the people. The first Parliament was one/won by popular concensus and it isn’t treason. I appreciate nationals of sovereign nations invaded by us are called insurgents but morally they are patriots I guess. Its very complecated I know but It boils down to whether one believes in God I suppose? You know-whether you’d attack someone fighting for their given nationality?
so the lisbon treaty is the QUEEN’S FAULT is it ?
you’re a fucking nutjob
she signs and approves legislation and treaties as per her role as a ceremonial figurehead you twat
when did she ever debate it’s merits you massive dildo?
Brown won’t have a referendum makes him an undemocratic despicable shit
But Dave being a spineless weasel and not having one either is all the fault of the Queen???? Fuck off back to your eurowanking Ken Clarke and stop making yourself look like such an enormous inflatable cock
Oops!
What about a sweepstake to guess when Milliband’s pre-pubescent, 3rd form, attempt at a moustache will finally emerge?
Dae ye nae ken laddie that its bumfluff from Gordy’s erse that stuck tae the laddie’s lip?
Never happen, his balls havent dropped yet.
Miliband, apologise to the free people of Poland for the disgraceful act of a Belgian based Communist who joined Trotski’s Red Army( from far-away Brussels) and for the atrocities perpetrated by those revolutionary monsters upon the peoples of Eastern Europe..Russians, Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians, Lithuanians, Ruthenians. All of whom suffered appalling crimes at the hands of the Red Army and its death squads.
Or, is there nothing to apologise for?
Was not Miliband’s father a fervent communist?
rabid communist
didn’t you pay attention in diversity class? killing millions of people is fine as long as you’re a socialist.
It sounds like the Cheyanne were UKIP
wheres sad little jonty in light of this news? ringing up HQ to inform his superiors and to get new orders?
Gone 6pm and no overtime given the “relationship” with the unions is not exactly great at the moment.
Tory leader David Cameron will be announcing “within days” that he will not hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty should his party win the next election, according to a Conservative Party-supporting newspaper.
Writing in tonight’s London Evening Standard, the political editor, Joe Murphy, says that “David Cameron is set to announce within days that he will not call a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty if he takes power and it is already law.
“He is expected to sound a retreat on his ‘cast-iron guarantee’ only after the treaty has been ratified by Czech president Vaclav Klaus, the last European leader to hold out against it,” Mr Murphy wrote.
Mr Cameron’s sharp u-turn flies directly in the face of his strongly worded article published in The Sun newspaper of 26 September 2007 in which he solemnly vowed that he would hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
poor call me Dave has had his balls cut off by the Europhiles
what a sad little cowardly PR spad he is
ZaNuLab-placed utter bollocks. The actuality is old, old “news”:
“Mr Cameron’s sharp u-turn flies directly in the face of his strongly worded article published in The Sun newspaper of 26 September 2007 in which he solemnly vowed that IF THE TREATY REMAINED UNRATIFIED AND THE TORIES WERE ELECTED THEN he would hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.”
Tory policy is unchanged.
The “cast iron” guarantee is to hold a referendum if the treaty has NOT been ratified when the Conservatives take office. What is the point of hoding a referenum AFTER the treaty has been ratified? Stable, Horse, Bolted – do these words bring anything to mind? Realistically, what are the options available to an incoming Government saddled with a treaty signed by their predecessor who welshed on a committment to a referendum?
Britain is still a Sovereign Nation but won’t be if Cameron lets lisbon pass
we can abrogate any Treaty we wish and hold a Referendum to back that abrogation up with massive public opinion
but it requires backbone
Boris showed some of this
Cameron doesn’t have it in him
so like Farage then
Britain is a sovereign nation and always will remain so as it is not in anyone’s gift to renounce their sovereignty. Only invasion by a foreign army could change it.
Then we can Abrogate the Lisbon Treaty like he says
Wait till they are in power… there’s plenty of ways to skin a cat.
I have a feeling that Lisbon will fall flat on its face Europe-wide — even if they do think they’re home and dry. Everywhere in Europe people feel the same, they will not be taxed, they will not be conscripted whatever the politicians say.
The minute the Commissioners or the Council of Ministers start flexing their new Lisbon muscles, that will be the moment when all hell breaks loose and might bring the whole house of cards down.
be vewwwy vewwy qwiet Susie Shhhhh! the poloicies are all a secwet
bullshit
Camorons a coward who Ken Clarke is bareback riding into the heart of Europe
anyway you are a subject not a citizen and if Mrs Windsor decides this is what is best for you who are you to complain?
The British Nationality Act 1981 says you are a British Citizen if you were born in the UK before 1/1/83. If born in the UK after 1/1/83 you also need to have 1 parent who is a British Citizen at the time of your birth. There are a very few classes of people who may be subjects but not citizens. – see here http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/aboutcitizenship/
Baaawk buck buck buck! cluck,cluck BAAAAWWWKKKK!!!
Will The Sun turn against DC now?
Murdoch is a NWO I think? Pro-europe probably. Certainly not a British patriot
I believe that a bear shat in the woods this morning, and there are strong reports of a dog pissing up a lamp post. The Vatican is expected to comment later on suggestions that the Pope may in fact be a Catholic.
I believe that any opposition to this treaty once is has been ratified will in itself be ‘against the law’. Once ratified its a done deal as to ‘unratify’ would require the ratified law to be broken. This amongst other points is why this trety is so dangerous. Once agreed no other treaties are required and any further decisions need not to all intents and purposes be approved by the electorate. Power would pass from the many into the hands of a very select few. No wonder it has become known as the EUSSR.
A typical EU set up but bear in mind the main perpeTRAITORS of this were Bliar, Brown and the LABOUR PARTY.
Just like the NZ Labor party, this lot (ZaNuLabour) will lie and obfusacate until the very bitter end.
They simply can’t help themselves. it is their natural default position.
As for QT and the fragrant Ms Smith. If she paid ALL the money back and with Interest, then the problem would go away and she would be absolved.
I believe that it was fraud, but Labour Party membership is the ultimate ‘Keep out of Jail’ card.
Are you questioning the avenging might of the Gobshite Centre?
what a cowardly spineless Euro suck up call me Dave is
And no, Brown being a complete fucking basket case doesn’t excuse Dave from being the same little m0ngs
You are an unpaid LieBore troll and if only you had it I would be claiming my £5.
can’t you read little M0ng ?
“Brown being a complete fucking basket case”
yeah that sounds like the Labour Party Line you fucking dimwit
Lisbon is an abortion and an appalling diminution of sovereignity
It is an insane power grab from a European Parliament out of it’s mind on a power trip to enforce every dot and comma of any law or directive it’s undemocratic corrupt shower of useless Huhne’s can dream up
I don’t give a fuck about Brown because he’s a useless cock who’s going to lose the Election. I care about this undemocratic disgusting Treaty getting ripped up and BINNED. The best way to see that happen is a referendum no matter what the nutty europhiles think.
Oh for f>cks sake you lot weren’t going to get a referendum any bloody way!, it will never happen! tough! deal with the useless bunch of fools in power first then batter who ever gets in after and as for the ‘rise up ‘ lot on here the cops and crims have all the guns !so er you may be on a loser !
If 2.5 million individuals turn up in Olde London Towne en masse with intentions to perform 646 good deeds to rescue this country from the abyss, there aint enough coppers or guns to stop them.
The only reason people are afraid to do anything is because:
Theyre mostly lethargic and uninformed about whats about to happen to them vis a vis-Lisbon.
They dont want to put themselves out and be the sacrificial lambs.
They need someone to follow, a figurehead to gee them up.
Unfortunately some of us may die in the process of rescuing our country but thats always been the case when good men fight tyranny.
But then thats whats needed, if youre not ready to go to war to protect whats right and fair then you deserve everything youll get from El Presidente Bliar and his fanboys.
The time for talk is gone, theyre not listening, nor were they ever, theyre not interested in what you or i say, theyre forming their new “club” and guess what? You and i aint in it, youre the revenue stream to keep them in the style to which Cherie has become accustomed.
Now, get off your arse and join the fucking march.
I will follow you ghost, lead the charge of the light brigade sir.
I’d like suggestions to keep the casualty numbers at 646 and no more.
Brown and his driver were going to Chequers and were passing a farm. A pig jumped out in the road suddenly. The driver tried to get out of the way, but he hit him. He went in the farm to explain what had happened. He came out with champagne, a cigar, and a ton of money. Brown saw this and said, “My God, what did you tell them?” The driver replied, “I told them that I’m Gordon Brown’s driver and I just killed the pig.”
The Labour Campaign bus was driving by a farm where a man lives alone. The bus driver, caught up in the beautiful scenery, lost control and crashed into the ditch. The man came out and finding the politicians, buried them.
The next day, the police are at the farm questioning the man. “So you buried all the Labour Cabinet?” asked the police officer. “Were they all dead?” To which the man replied, “Some said they weren’t, but you know how they lie.”
Browns off to MFI tomorrow, apparently he’s looking for a new cabinet….. boom boom!
underneath it the labour cabinet are seething resenters.it is amazing they kept it covered up for so long.power!
Some of us have guessed since 1997.
Once you have finished your Turkey Twizzlers, Master Baiter, can we have your half baked thoughts?
he’s gone home.
he never works after 18.00 and disappears earlier on a Friday.
He’s had a busy day on another thread.
Pet lamb.
And who pays for my troll – a composite of some of my best brhoonish brains – to do this?
You do – you stupid earners.
It comes outta yor taxes!
Now get back in your gutters, stinking proles!
I wasn’t too bothered about the idea of the Tories getting into bed with a possible neo-Nazi, but a guy who has dinner with Blair is a step too far.
lol
I simply say that I had been advised that the guest was Natasha Kaplinsky. If, through misinformation I am show-en to be wrong, I can apologise with all the sincerity I previously mustered to not apologise to the house.
Simples.
As I posted on the last thread , the socialist european politicians that our very own labour mep’s are snuggling up to in europe have anti-gay, neo-nazi and white supremacist links .
Militwit knows that – he is just a hypocrite .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1223176/Wet-ears-David-Miliband-look-partys-associates-sneering-Tories-.html
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nd white supremacist socialist politicians that our own labour mep’s are snuggling up to in their own cosy little group.
why oh why will conservatives not ram this point home?
i’ve seen the bbc and guardian are relentless in pushing the attack line millitwat came up with but still the tories should fight back. how many labour supporters were stalinist?!
How dare people say Neo Nastys are extreme right wing!!!!
They are MY party, – but a bit further left than us.
Ask das Fuhrer Schmittenmit einen BathenpluggenHolenFiller
What part of National socialism don’t you understand?
We need to fumigate the whole of parliament then blow the fucking thing up just to make sure
Is this the spoiler you were referring to in an earlier post?
Little Johnny pipes up in the classroom in the year 2020 “what’s a referendum miss?” Teacher.. good question, its something which could be considered fundamental in the principles of accountability transparency and the democratic ideal vis a vie the people and the state but at a higher level and in the absence of a direct voting system for regional and centrally autonomous or semi-autonomous states. Little Johnny pipes up again “what’s a vote miss?” Teacher…. listen you little shit any more of that kind of talk and you will never get to be an MEP when you grow up.
Have you considered writing for Guy TV?
now, now.
You must be a Labour troll to disagree with Dave on his refusal to have a referndum.
Funny how many Labour Trolls there are at Conservativehome and on Dave’s own benches as MPs though isn’t it ?
Referndum?. Thought it was New Labour that reneged on their election manifesto promise for a referendum, not interested in bi-polar anyway, we ain’t gonna get one whatever.
I was agreeing with you steamfisher but you appear to have been flummoxed by satire and distracted by a typo
Like “steamfisher”.
again satire whoooshes over your head and you actually fell for that one
could you be more anal ?
Don’t write Milliband off. He will take over from Gordon after he looses the General Election.
Well no one else will want the job of resurrecting a bankrupt pile of shit.
No no. mandy is backing ed militwit to take over from broon not david.
mandy is trying to get david established in the EU so that he doesn’t rock the boat on mandy’s plans for ed militwit here.
Lose dammit! Loose is for losers.
No you’re all wrong. Mandy will be the Euro Foreigh Commandant-Not Milliband.
I’d like to say that the seven year old david milliband, he of no proper job or life experience, and of living in a tax avoiding home , which he probably claims on expenses, is an absolute fucking twat and I can prove it – I mean look at him, just look at him
‘ere, whats Brown and sounds like a bell?
DUNG
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We need to take a look at Milibore’s brand of socialism compared to communism. In reality the two are twins. When you run across dedicated socialists like Miliband, remember that the only difference between him and a communist is in the method of seizing power.
The desire to gain monolithic power is exactly the same in both, only Marxists tried it through violent means, but were never able to maintain it. This is all a battle for hearts and minds. Why else is there so much left-wing slanting in education, television, the arts etc.
Whatever Cameron’s failings, I am certain he would never stoop to Miliband’s communist tactics of smearing and labelling all-and-sundry as anti-Semites, neo-nazis, racists, ad nauseum.
Miliband’s smearing approach to international relations sounds more like a criminal code of conduct rather than any sincere diplomacy. An excuse for doing whatever he finds necessary rather than following a system of morals for correct behaviour. Whether Miliband’s tactics are ‘legal’ and ‘moral’ or not does not concern him, so long as they are effective.
Miliband wants power, and as he sees it slip inevitably from his grasp, he will no doubt do whatever it takes to regain it, unrestricted by any ethical conduct or right living. Whether it be Marx, Miliband, Mandelson, Brown, Blair – they are all the same – utterly incapable of building a better world.
Excellent post !
So,where does Millipedes’ denunciation of Kaminski leave Mr Brown?
“Kaminski is (was)? anti semitic and a neo nazi” says young Foreign Secretary.
Hmmmmm…..perhaps he should remember that a certain Colonel Gaddafi is (was?) paymaster to the IRA…Libya a haven for terrorists..Gaddafi a sponsor of terrorists.
Yet Mr Brown now thinks Libya is extremely important to the UK,and has cosied up to Gaddafi.
I await with trepidation for Milliband to speak up against such an unholy alliance as Gordon has with Gaddafi.
For hells sake don’t mention the Pope then!
And let’s not mention mandy’s dodgy friends and their past affiliations either!!!!
I wish that I could come home and vote. Cameron won’t save my mother country from the Superstate, but UKIP would have no other option. The Irish and the Czechs having abandoned us, the British electorate is my last hope.
GG stop moaning, you can’t blame other countries for not looking after us when we did nothing to look after ourselves.
this is too much good news for one day.
MacTwat wouldn’t let it lie.
At it again, trolling away with Grauniad approval today . They closed comments for the evening just as your story appeared! Wonder why? You’d think they’d twig by now that MacTwat is pure poison and evil.
lighting3 is our very own thick as thieves
The idea that the Lad Dave would have sprouted a pair and would hold a referendum on the Lisbon “cheaty” is laughable. He doesn’t need to…he knows that Broon is disaster area and the conservatives will have a comfortable victory at the next GE (they should totally wipe the floor with them but they won’t)
He has Ken Clarke and the ghost of Ted Heath breathing down his neck, and in the back of his mind there’s thoughts of the future: ok, be a puppet prime minister, ruled by some Euro-President, unable to make our own laws and – here’s the biggest joke – unable to change the “human rights” stuff without there being open warfare – but hey what the hell at least I’ll be able to hold my head up at the dinner parties and not get a bollocking from Polly and a bad editorial from Rustfrigger at the Gruaniad.
But it’s not a good start is it? Not exactly listening are we Dave? Not exactly getting around the constituencies, putting out feelers, chatting to a few party faithful, you know, the ones who tramp the streets putting leaflets through doors?
Yes, Dave, in the Poncy Polly circles you and your chums move in, it is just sooooo yokel to be anti-europe, isn’t it?
But that’s just it Dave. Most people are not “anti-europe.” They are just fed up of being bullshitted to. The last referendum we had – the one your beloved organ-playingTed was involved in – told us that europe was all about trading.
Well, it’s changed a bit since then hasn’t it Dave?
And you don’t think that the british people – the ones who may well vote you in as prime minister – deserve a say in that?
Time to stop listening to the Guardian readers, Dave, and start listening to the people. If you’ve got the balls, of course.
Y’know the conservatives are being too gentlemanly here and it’s completely ridiculous.
millitwit keeps spouting off about kaminski, who is leading the anti federalist ECR party that the tory MEP’s have joined, and his unsuitable past when he joined a neo nazi group at 14 and left it at 17 when he realised he had higher ideals.
militwit says nothing about the past affiliations of the European Socialist MEP’s to which labour MEP’s belong. Those affiliations include neo-nazi’s, anti-semites, links to white supremacists, romanian holocaust deniers and italian ex fascists.
C’mon investigative journalists – Get Digging!!!!
C’mon investigative journalists – Get Digging!!!!
Ah what ever happened to them? Dutch Elm disease and dead tree press.
They got mollified by people like alastaircampbell and damian mcbride.
They allowed themselves to be so terrorised by these idious people that they still haven’t recovered enough courage to operate as half decent journalists.
Pathetic bunch!!!
Don’t be too harsh- not so long ago they exposed the MPs expenses scandal.
Hmm??
The DT and the other mainstream papers knew that info about mp’s expenses was out there for a while.
They all held off.
Truth is the DT only bought into it when it realised its circulation was falling because it had moved away from centre politics and that it needed a boost to try and win back its readership.
As with bliar, everything these people do is about making money.
Making money the best incentive EVER …whats wrong with that its brought scientific achievement, great rock n roll, some good porn and the 10 p crisp phenomenon.
Nell- whatever their motivation, they still put a great story out in the public domain. It took a lot of old-fashioned leg work by a lot of hacks. Credit where credit’s due.
“the Polish Chief Rabbi came out strongly in support of the smeared Polish leader of the Eurpean Conservatives and Reformists Group2
Bollocks he did, you fuckin lyin shite.
His support was so heavily qualified and parsed as to damn the neo-Nazi Huhne with faint praise.
what? he attacked Blair ?
well alastair (you being the person responsible for Dr David Kelly’s harassment and death) question guido is asking, is did bliar entertain kaminski to dinner?
Do you know the answer??
Fuck off you fucking revisionist history peddling twat, you don’t like someone not seeing things the way you do so try and rewrite it to suit your agenda, fuck off you facist Huhne before i come bash your brains in.
Good for you Tat.
Night. God Bless.
I’M TAT JR
HOLY TONY: “ I’M A REGULAR KIND OF GUY”
Is gordon going to be able to follow in his footsteps do you think?
Regular as in bowel movements?
Ding. Dong.
Dung
+++++++++ Tory Policy on Europe++++++++++
1 If the lisbon treaty is brought into law , State its Illegal and hold a in or out vote and repeat process every 5 years until the acounts are signed of.
2 go to number 1
Hannan on newsnight now.
Is he? Thanks.
awww he looks so sad
like he’s swallowed a large pile of shit from Cameron and is now parroting the Party line lest he be slapped down as an eccentric once more
I guess he’ill lose his euro pension if he strays too far off the leash
Guido, that drugs scientist the government engaged as an expert on the subject has been sacked for making views public which were not compatible with Labour government dogma. Science has been subordinated to party dogma yet again. Don’t you feel this warrants a significant article??? FFS!! When people are sacked for telling the truth based on scientific findings, it really is time to burn the Liars. Let’s have a whip-around for some worn-out old tires and paraffin, eh?
welcome to labourland
Not only that, Al Gore’s mate, the arselicking Sir David King felt the need to kick Prof Nutt while he was down. Would have made a good Gestapo man.
no,as I posted earlier, unfortunately the government’s ex-drugs expert was, er, wrong. In fact the advisory council on the misuse of drugs has got a lot of things wrong. There is now a clear link between cannabis and schizophrenia ( well established reseach by Professor Robin Murray) and many on the ACMD have downplayed or denied this.
Classification is a seperate issue
David king spouted unproven agw bollocks and was praised and pampered! yet this man who seems to have made a judgment on science [right or wrong ] is fired ! there is nothing good in this drug policy will still be rubbish .
Quote “There is now a clear link between cannabis and schizophrenia” can anyone confirm if Brown inhaled whilst at university?
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“from late November 2005″
My dear chattering classes, you haven’t figured it out have you?
You prattle about, point the finger and yet do NOTHING!
Oh so fucking brave of you to post comments on a blog. Fuck me, the lords and masters must be shitting themselves.
By all means try and unhinge this crappy system with your talk, but take note… the fifth of November will soon be upon us.
Stop your inane rhetoric and take ACTION!
You want change, fucking well get off your arses, step away from the computer and do something.
If you fail to do that you are nothing more than hand-wringing, bleeding heart tosspots.
I dare you! I dare you to stand up and be counted!
Good rousing stuff. What do you suggest? Synchronised assassination of chief troughers from all parties?
No. I will not turn these pathetic wastes of DNA into martyrs.
I will not give them, not their families, nor their supporters the opportunity to turn round and say “I was only following the rules”
Fuck the rules. The rules were created by our alleged glorious leaders, by, and for the benefit of those same, self proclaimed leaders.
They are liars, charlatans, lickspittles and gobshites.
I have a much more interesting solution.
The clock is ticking, it will soon be the fifth.
Just look at Millibland, there is very little between the ears, so it’s not surprising that he has tripped himself up.
He is one of the little pygmies in Browns “government of none of the talents”, that is why Britain is in the mess it is in.
Now Johnson in his attempt to show he at least has some backbone and actually fired someone (The Prof) who actually knew his job quite well, shows just how untalented the cabinet are.
There really is no hope whatsoever for Brown and Labour, they should call a general election this Autumn. Watching Brown extolling the virtues of one Tony Blair the warmonger to his counterparts in Europe was pathetic. Brown….wakey,wakey….Sarkosy, Merkel and crew see Blair as a “hasbeen, neverwas”. What has Blair achieved as Middle East Envoy the past few years, on a whack of a salary…..NOTHING! in fact most Arabs don’t appear to respect or trust him. Brown appeared as a pompus windbag, and he is now a spent power on his way out, and the other European leaders will want to align themselves with the new political people in Britain, and like Obama are quietly giving Brown the cold shoulder. As usual mission accomplished for Brown, his “Jonah Curse” is in full effect.
No use going on about Brown calling an election.in the autumn He will go to “the wire” and to the expiry of the “Government’s Mandate” i.e. May/June 2010
As for Miliband read this and prepare to throw something(not a Nokia though) – if Miliband is “young and brilliant” then God help the rest of us !!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223700/Sarkozy-sinks-Blairs-chances-President-job-Miliband-emerges-frontrunner-key-EU-role.html
“The millipede is a medium to large sized insect that is found under rocks and in decaying logs all around the world.” (A-Z Animals.)
It seems odd that he is worried about 70 year old history in Poland, which nothing can change, yet is happy enough to see US/UK forces killing numerous Afghans and Pakistanis for no good reason.
He never seems to lose much sleep when the IDF mows down another batch of Palestinians either.
I had a dinner too. Curry on my lap and then a w*nk.
Live the dream!
Children are often messy eaters, Mastur Bator, so you shouldn’t be ashamed.
HIGNFY last night, Mark Steel = Silly Lefty. He didn’t like that did he? Ha! I laughed, subtle revenge for all of his bulging neck vein, shouty ranting, slagging off “Toffs”, “Tories” and “Died in the wool right wingers”.
He didn’t like Ian Hislop referring to him as a “Communist” and “Stalinist”. It’s about time that someone challenged his left wing babble masquerading as “comedy”.
Mind you, poor Mark you have to feel sorry for him, his early years being brought up on a drug ridden sink estate. Going to a bog standard comprehensive. Then coming off benefits and working twelve hours a day in the iron foundry, clocking off and rushing to the working men’s club to do a thirty minute stint of stand up. Then catching the last bus home to start the early shift at four the following morning.
God, he suffered for his art, didn’t he?
Ian Hislop is a curious creature.
He’s there in the public eye, on telly all the time slagging others off, and yet strangely uncomfortable revealing his views on anything, other than the nobility of a rather conservative and unfashionable version of British history which forms the focus of his various documentary series.
The only time he lets his guard down, albeit involuntarily, is in those occasional appearances he makes on BBC Question Time.
Did you ever notice how he looks to the ceiling when addressing the QT audience, almost as if he’s embarrassed by what he’s having to say?
But then, why say it?
It’s a strange but very revealing tic; a give as they say in poker.
It’s precisely the same dishonest and untrustworthy feeling you get when someone speaks to you whilst looking directly above your head, as if fearing to meet your eyes.
Strange.
I am a Brit but if Kaminski had grounds for suing Millipede for effectively accusing him of being a holocaust denier, and if Kaminski was to win, I would celebrate most heartily.
Blair was hosting these Poles as the government of Poland. Therefore he was acting in a purely diplomatic capacity with another European government. When you’re in government you have to deal with all manner of undesirables. It’s the nature of the business.
There’s a very big difference between that and what the Conservatives have done, which is allign themselves politically with these anti-semites. That’s a matter of choice.
To pretend otherwise, displays either a wilful ignorance of political and diplomatic business or dishonesty or indeed both.
I’m afraid the Conservatives are digging some very deep holes for themselves on this issue and their increasingly desperate efforts to defend themselves are only further demonstration of their lack of political nous and experience.
Even the intervention of the Polish Chief Rabbi was hardly a ringing endorsement, heavily parsed and nuanced as it was.
I suspect Mr Cameron may be forced to do another u-turn, as he so recently did on the matter of all female shortlists.
Though better that, and admit his errors and political inexperience again, than proceed in political alliance with these anti-semites.
As somone who will be voting in a marginal constituency, I await further developments with a keen interest.
We can all see who is really doing the pretending.
Yep. We sure can.
There’s a big difference between hosting the Polish government as partners in Europe, and entering into political alliance with dubious Polish political parties.
The first is one’s diplomatic obligation, however distasteful, and the second is a political choice one makes, but does not need to make.
It’s fairly obvious that these important distinctions are foreign to you, but then you and your ilk have been in the political wildnerness for quite some time now.
I suspect you’ll need a further period of rehabilitation in that wilderness before you’re ready for the world of grown-ups again.
Let’s face it. You’re just not ready.
Oh yeah, and don’t forget Dave’s dithering and subsequent u-turn over all female shortlists. It just makes you look very silly and biased.
I look forward to further trashing your drivel as we move closer to election time.
Toodle pip
Poor old censoring Guido.
You’re just not very good, are ya mate?
Spot on, mate.
This blog is full of idiots.
So Blair was making a political accomodation rather than endorsing racial purity and various other Nazi policies……..whereas Cameron was making a political accomodation rather than endorsing racial purity etc. But that was OK for Tony but totally evil for Cameron?
That is the most fucking stupid argument. Next you will be trying the ‘in good faith’ defence. Don’t you just love Labour’s moral high ground -shame they never inhabit it.
Either association with this person is a morally acceptable situation or not. It is not ok for one group just because they vote a particular way and it is not defensible for the same reason.
I note your inaccurate comments about the Rabbi’s endorsement. He did say that Kaminski is not an anti Semite now in his opinion. But you ignore that and go on to talk about ‘these anti-semites’ So the Rabbi’s word is not good enough for you then?
Tell me what sort of endorsement would you like ? ‘Son of the manse’?'Regular kind of guy’? Who would you accept an ‘endorsement’ from?
Whilst we are on the subject I suggest a close look at the membership of PES would be worthwhile. A few neo nazi leanings in this group but insufficient to stop McDoom begging them to vote for Tone.
“So Blair was making a political accomodation rather than endorsing racial purity and various other Nazi policies……..whereas Cameron was making a political accomodation rather than endorsing racial purity etc. But that was OK for Tony but totally evil for Cameron?”
No. Blair was hosting the Polish government which is an obligation. Cameron is entering into alliance with Polish political parties.
“I note your inaccurate comments about the Rabbi’s endorsement. He did say that Kaminski is not an anti Semite now in his opinion. But you ignore that and go on to talk about ‘these anti-semites’ So the Rabbi’s word is not good enough for you then?”
The Chief Rabbi was being very diplomatic, nuanced and heavily parsing his comments. I suspect he’s hoping that these anti-semites will atone in some way.
Think someone should tell him the pope was once in the Hitler youth.
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