October 28th, 2009

PMQs Live Chat : Will They Mention Expenses This Week?


338 Comments

  1. 1
    Road_Hog says:

    Not in the pub this week then?

  2. 3
    DelBoy says:

    Do I need a tv licence for this?

    • 6
      Road_Hog says:

      No, iplayer works fine without a TV licence.

    • 7
      Dick the Prick says:

      Don’t need a TVlicense at all lad. Tell them to eff off if they come to or. Get into the habit of not answering the question ‘Is it Mr Delboy?’ – ‘who are you?’ then tell them to get lost without either confirming or denying it.

      • 13
        DelBoy says:

        Par je suis a Strasbourg

      • 18
        rick says:

        This is the correct procedure for handling BBC enforcers.

      • 36
        TV Licensing says:

        Ah haaaaaaa!

        Now we have the Proceeds of Crime act at our disposal we can search your home for a television.

        Resistance is futile.

        YOU will fund the BBC.

        • 57
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          If the television is used for watching DVDs and not receiving a broadcast signal you can fuck off.

          • Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

            Phil I’m afraid you’re wrong for once: IF it IS capable of receiving a broadcast it needs a licence. You also need a licence to watch tv on thy pooter. Facists.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Noted.

            Oh bugger!

          • Billy Sarsted says:

            I have a huge pile of threatening letters from the TV licensing lot and look forward to them coming round when I shall just tell them to phuq off as I don’t have a TV, I have told them that as well but they still send the sodding letters, have been doing so for nearly 3 years, daft bastards.

          • Dack Blog says:

            In Stoke your ‘pooter’ is your arse.

          • Australian says:

            Dack: I expect “they” will even require you to have a licence to watch TV on that!

            Anyway – the BBC tax is illegal under EU Rules relating to State Aid, so I wouldn’t bother paying it anyway if I were you. You are in effect breaching EU State Aid rules if you pay the BBC tax.

        • 61
          Moley says:

          I won’t.

          Ever.

        • 73
          RavingMad says:

          you’ll not get in my house matey – now fuck off

        • 93
          Sir William Waad says:

          Don’t think you can, no. Like demons and Lord Mandelson you cannot enter uninvited.

    • 87
      Pay it back it Jackie says:

      Yes you will need one. Of course you could not bother and if you get caught just claim its only a techincal error. You are a liebour minister aren’t you?

      • 258
        Anonymous says:

        To watch live TV on a computer you need a licence. To watch shows delayed and not watched live i.e I Player you dont need a TV licence.

        Tried for a few years to get them to tell me if i needed a licence to watch live tv streamed on the internet from another country.

        Dont think they know the answer or arent prepared to say.

        • 298
          Australian says:

          For as long as the UK remain parts of the benighted EU, you don’t need to pay the BBC tax to watch any television broadcasts. If you have a TV licence, you are conniving in a breach of EU rules relating to State Aid. In order to avoid any chance of wrongdoing on your part, I would suggest you stop paying the BBC tax.

          The BBC tax is illegal as the law currently stands.

  3. 5
    RavingMad says:

    no chance expenses will come up.

    the Times highlights the growing revolt against the changes with Kelly ue to report. One of their claims is:

    “MPs from all sides queued up to claim the measures would create a “Parliament of the rich”.

    Funny, I thought it already was a parliament of the rich…..

  4. 9
    HAGGISFACE says:

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    THE APATHETYQK VOTER IS IN THE ASCENDANTSEA

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    ASTA

  5. 14
    The Director of Politically Correct and Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba, - the Bhroon State Propaganda says:


    Didn’t that gal do well on Toady this morning? Y’kno – the bit about the TA.

    She never let that Tory Toff finish a sentence without butting in, – a credit to her Noo_Lie_Bore Schooling for pig ignorant Wimmin ‘n Gals.


    Mr. Prezza of Scott, a Noo_Lie_Bore Illumination

    I or-wayz like gobby wimmin. Strengthens the tongue, lips and jaws for you-kno-wot!! Hey!!!

    See that bird wiv the big tits? Phwoooooorrr!!! I could fill my mouth there.

    Anyone gotta pie? . . . pasty? . . . . . sandwich? . . . . . anything?

  6. 16
    Call a General Election NOW ! says:

    Uh-oh, he’s reading a list of numbers again instead of answering the f’in question. And he just said “it’s the right thing to do..”
    Jeez…

  7. 19
    Master Baiter says:

    Dave Komodo, lizard lips, flicking tongue and stupendous comb over has straightened his parting, it’s now as wide in places as the M4.
    Hahaha

    • 34
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      So that’s a good reason for voting Labour?

      tosser

      • 44
        Master Baiter says:

        The zig zag one week and straight the next week parting is emblematic of the Conservitudes’ policies.

        It’s all over the place.

        • 54
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          Unlike “u-turn” Brown

        • 78
          I hate new Labour says:

          If voters start judging on appearance (as you have) then your hero is well and f*cked isn’t he?

          I give you 3/10- must try harder.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Mandeleson has a nice full head of hair.
            Brown has a nice full head of hair.

            Dave Komodo, lizard lips, flicking tongue and stupendous comb over, now with reinstated but very wide straight parting, has a head full of hair spray.

            Slap heads lose elections.

            Hague anyone?

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            They say men who are bald at the front are sexy and that men who are bald at the rear are intelligent. So we can confidently say that Brown in neither.

            If you think that anyone other than his missus (and the jury’s out on that one) would vote for Brown then you are a tosser alright.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Full of pasties, pizzas and pies

            How very ,very, dull, as ever.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            says the Oscar Wilde of the blogosphere.

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            Tessa J looked like she was high or something. Weird stuff going on on that Labour front bench. I ask you would you offer any of them a job – silly question.

          • Anonymous says:

            Well we all know what Mandelson and Brown have in common.

            Nudge nudge, wink wink.

    • 171
      Master Baiter = Walter Mitty says:

      You see that small globule of snot on the end of Gordon Brown’s finger?

      That’s your planet, that is.

    • 277
      barefootcontessa says:

      You can criticize Cameron, but his hair is very presentable MB.

  8. 20
    Serious says:

    VERY serious faces on the Labour Thug Party front bench and no poppy for Harman – obviously below her to have to pay for a poppy.

    • 25
      Anonymous says:

      Straw neither.
      PMqs so far – Brown “We are right, you are wrong, so there!” – what a pathetic bunch of excuses for politicians.

    • 29
      Hugh Janus says:

      Manhater-Harperson’s missing poppy – strange, don’t we usually end up paying???

      • 45
        Scallywag says:

        She decide it was too risky to put the cost on her expenses just now…

      • 68
        Some bloke says:

        There was some woman newsreader on BBC1 last night who wore a red/white/black heavily-patterned blouse with her poppy carefully mounted on a red patch so it was virtually invisible. Doesn’t want to ‘offend’ some minority or other, I imagine. Wear your poppy with pride, Bitch!

      • 279
        barefootcontessa says:

        She wears a butterfly instead. Probably a diamond butterfly.

    • 30
      D. Pressed says:

      No dear – it’s ‘elf ‘n safety innit?

      Might encourage kids to partake of poppy or poppy products

  9. 21
    Augeus says:

    If MPs aren’t allowed to employ their wives anymore, does this mean Yvette Cooper’s going to get the sack?

  10. 23
    I'm f ucking sufferin under ths shower! Is it long-term or chronic? says:

    “Millions with chronic illnesses ’should be checked for signs of depression’

    Millions of patients with chronic illnesses should be checked for signs of depression, a Government watchdog has recommended.”

    (DT)

  11. 24
    PK says:

    don’t think Dave is landing any punches, really. George Osborne looks so lightweight.

  12. 26
    Master Baiter says:

    Conservitudes offer no policies on growth
    Would they withdraw stimulus measures now?
    Is the Conservitude leader for or against QE (quantitative easing) apparently he is now in favour?

    • 33
      PK says:

      Brown just refuses to answer questions and makes up stats. He is such a fucking liar. Bloody Speaker should make him answer the question put to him.

      (and you’re a Hoon, by the by..)

    • 35
      JMT says:

      Are you going to pay for it, or expect us?

    • 41
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Growth? The fucking country is in freefall. The only realistic policy should be on stopping the mad spending of the criminals in government.

      Come on tosser, how will Labour stop the slide? Print even more money so that we can pay our taxes by the wheelbarrow.

      • 48
        Master Baiter says:

        Simpleton,
        The Conservitudes’ ‘leader’ in his press conference yesterday admitted he is in favour of QE (quantitative easing) continuing.
        Because it is the right thing to do.

        Hahahaha

        • 51
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          No he didn’t.

          tosser

          • Master Baiter says:

            Oh yes he did, simpleton.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            No he didn’t. Prove it tosser

          • Master Baiter says:

            No, simpleton, he (the Conservitudes’ ‘leader’) said QE (quantitaitve easing) should continue.

            Hahaha

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Again. Proof?

          • Master Baiter says:

            Use Google, heard of it?

            Keep digging simpleton.

            Hahahaha

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            You want me to attempt to prove your lies with Google? Tosser.

          • Master Baiter says:

            But it’s true, because it’s the right thing to do.

            Keep digging, simpleton, alternatively, look it up.

            Hahaha

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            And there really is a Santa Claus. Shergar is a alive and well and is being cared for by Lord Lucan. The Pope is a muslim. The Labour Party will win the next general election. All of these things have been found on Google by the Master Bator although curiously he loses the links.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Phil, I don’t know why you bother to argue with MB, just ignore him, he writes a load of repetitive dogmative drivel.

        • 131
          Rexel 56 says:

          Given that QE is not decided upon by politicians but rather by the Bank of England as part of its “independent” management of monetary policy, isn’t this debate somewhat pointless.

          • Master Baiter says:

            QE can not be carried out unless the Treasury agrees to it.

            Oh and the Conservitudes are in favour of it continuing.

            Hahaha

          • Rexel 56 says:

            Well, exactly my point fuckwit, QE don’t happen unless the bank of England decides that it will.

            Sure, the Treasury could override the Governor but that ain’t ever going to happen.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The Treasury issues the paper, the BoE buys it.
            That’s QE.
            Ok?

          • Australian says:

            Thereby proving you are wrong yet again MB (imbecile). What happens if the BoE in a fit of common sense refuses to purchase the Treasury Paper?

            MB – you are an imbecile. Why do you insist on having to prove it time and time again to the whole world?

          • Master Baiter says:

            Ok here’s some help.

            The Treasury issues paper the BoE doesn’t buy it.
            That’s not QE.

            The Treasury doesn’t issue paper the BoE doesn’t buy it because it doesn’t exist.
            That’s not QE

            The Treasury issues paper the BoE buys it.
            That’s QE

            Ok?

    • 42
      Mr Slater's Parrot says:

      T-KWRRRRRRRKK!!! POLLYPOLLYPOLLY! LOVELYBISWKWITS! (skrit) ARSEHOLE!!!

    • 46
      Cushioning asset deflation by debt is not a very good idea (esp. for electoral gain) says:

      Not if 175 billion of quantitavely eased debt produces some 16 billion of growth by the end of 2010. Hardly v.f.m.

      Government’s own figures.

      • 52
        Master Baiter says:

        But Conservitudes’ ‘leader’ is in favour of QE (quantitative easing) continuing. So is every other reputable commentator and economist.

        Hahahaha

        • 65
          Master Baiter says:

          Jonty=ginger twat

        • 72
          Anonymous says:

          prove it you spong a list of all those who agree should do! or are you just going to spout more defective spong rubbish ?.
          hahahahahhaha

        • 74
          Cushioning asset deflation by debt is not a very good idea (esp. for electoral gain) says:

          Then he is a fool together with those unnamed reputable commentators and economists.

          The Japanese did it and it resulted in the ‘Lost Decade’.

          The only serious option to avoid a truly horrible decade is deep cuts and those should have been signalled in the Spring. Every month lost now adds 3 months to the time needed to reset the economy in the real world.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Quantitative easing in Japan brought the ‘lost decade’ to an end.
            QE (quantitative easing) was brought in Japan only in the early 2000’s, to try to bring an end to the lost decade.
            Eejut!

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Bollocks

          • Mastercard says:

            Sorry Mr Brown, we are withdrawing your line of credit

          • Barclaycard says:

            And us

          • American Express says:

            You’re joking

          • Jon Forest says:

            Even if we did believe in QE, tosspot, it still wouldn’t let mad Gordon off the hook for running up near-record government debts in a boom.
            Australia has been less hit by the recession (which started in Downing Street) because John Howard used the good years to build up a war chest.
            Meanwhile, Brown was changing his golden rules to keep the teat flowing to Liebour’s client state.

          • I M F says:

            Just sign here…

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Don’t mention gold!

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            MB you know not of what you speak (type). QE stimulus if you can call iut that all brought becasue of Brown’s FAILED policies. No wonder, you are in with that 26% still in denial. Go pick some strawberries.

        • 116
          Putin says:

          According to your earlier post you were asking if he was in favour or not. Make you mind up.

        • 301
          Australian says:

          “So is every other reputable commentator and economist.”

          No they are not! MB you are an imbecile.

    • 76
      Putin says:

      Well,they would have to be er, the government would they not to withdraw the ’stimulus’ measures?

      Let’s not get into ifs and buts. After all Labour made many manifesto commitments which it seems to have forgotten, so whatever Cameron says is of no relevance. It is what he actually does that matters

      One of your more inane questions (from a wide choice I might add)

      • 133
        Master Baiter says:

        Cameron Backs Away From Call to End Quantitative Easing ‘Soon’

        Reverse, reverse, reverse!

        Hahahaha

        • 276
          Putin says:

          I see so you are in favour of QE when Gordon does it but if someone else did exactly the same thing you would be against it? Interesting sate of mind…….

          Remind me what is amusing about QE?

          • Master Baiter says:

            Cameron backing away from his simpleton call to stop QE, that’s what is funny.

            Now that’s a U turn.

            Reverse, reverse, reverse!

          • Australian says:

            MB – why do you persist in behaving like a complete imbecile?

    • 84
      McGroom says:

      MB – these are the facts

      New Labour = fiscal destitution

      New Labour = more unemployment

      New Labour = no democracy

      New Labour = the poor get poorer

      • 109
        Anonymous says:

        Vote Labour get rodgered on every level…

      • 123
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        New Labour = 13 years Hard Labour

        • 141
          Jon Forest says:

          MB, Even if we did believe in EQ, it still wouldn’t let mad Gordon off the hook for running up near-record government debts in a boom.
          Australia has been less hit by the recession (which started in Downing Street) because John Howard used the good years to build up a war chest.
          Meanwhile, Brown was changing his golden rules to keep the teat flowing to Liebour’s client state.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The Conservitudes’ are like last weeks parting, zig zag all the way.

            Cameron Backs Away From Call to End Quantitative Easing ‘Soon’

            Hahaha

    • 173
      Master Baiter = Walter Mitty says:

      You see that big pile of worthless cash that has been printed?

      That’s your pathetic attempt to win another election, that is.

    • 198

      Government spending (deferred taxation) destroys growth.

      Less State = More wealth.

      • 225
        Ronald Ragan says:

        Applause

        • 256
          Master Baiter says:

          Fox news clone,

          What’s the Conservitudes position on QE (quantitative easing)?

          Cameron Backs Away From Call to End Quantitative Easing ‘Soon’.

          Hahahaha

          • Putin says:

            Have you not answered your own question?

            Dullard

            First, God created idiots. That was just for practice. Then He created socialists.

        • 304
          Ronald Raygun says:

          I can make lasers that shoot things from space

          I also increase the size of Government massively despite all my bullshit rhetoric the neoconservatives parrot

      • 241
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        You got that right.

  13. 27
    Down with Brown! says:

    Nick Clegg asked about hot air.

  14. 38
    50 Calibre says:

    They haven’t mentioned expenses yet…

    • 207
      udderly 'orrible says:

      ….nor the great Neather immigation scandal – now that should truely sink the liebour scum.

  15. 39
    Geezers_with _Perks says:

    Judges Panel

    Cameron 5

    Gordon 5

    Clegg 0.5

    When did Clegg last pay for his own air fares?

    We have rubbish leaders!

    • 176
      Fees Office Clerk says:

      Brown always gives the same answer irrespective of what the question is so how can you allocate a score of 5 to that Scotch Hoon?

      • 213
        Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

        You may call him a Hoon, but please desist from calling him Scotch. He bears no resemblance to a decent bottle and he does not want to be Scots, thank God.

  16. 47
    Hugh Janus says:

    PMQs – all these ridiculous ‘climate’ questions when the country is drowning in debt and technically bankrupt.

    There clearly isn’t a problem, so I must be imagining it.

    • 90
      Lizzie says:

      Clegg is trying “too hard” to be different at question time. He should feign illness and send his sidekick Vince to do the talking.

  17. 49
    David Kelly(deceased) says:

    Zanu labour killed me

  18. 50
    Down with Brown! says:

    This is beyond awful from Brown. What a hoon!

  19. 53
    Down with Brown! says:

    Cameron 4 (Good on T.A., not bad on economy)
    Brown 1 (Dull, didn’t answer a question)
    Clegg 0 (Very shaky)

    Overall 0.5 – Poor stuff from almost eveyone.

    • 62
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Mandy’s got Brown doped up to the eyeballs. Sorry, I shouldn’t have said that.

      ..doped up to the eyeball. There.

    • 252
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Brown looked very shaky over the TA question, nervous and quivery. Yuk wish I had not reminded myself of that. To be honest you just have to laugh this man is our great leader there is just no hope. He is going to ruin this country and after all is said and done that is probebly his wish. Its probably a childhood thing or north of the border thing or perhaps school yard bully stuff either way its payback of some kind he obviously hates the English.

  20. 56

    Any reason I stopped getting published halfway through?

  21. 59
    McGroom says:

    Dave failed to land a jaw breaker again.

    He should focus on unemployment has risen under every Labour government, our public debt is at record levels and the BoE’s low rate policy is only helping big business and banks, not small companies and individuals.

    • 66
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Dave doesn’t want to land a knock out blow. Conservatives greatest vote winner is Brown. He needs to keep Brown “in charge”.

      • 75
        Lizzie says:

        I agree, as much as it would be great to see the back of Brown, he is the Conservative secret weapon.

        • 96
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          If they elect a human as their leader – Johnson – then quite a few labour MPs might just retain their constituencies. Labour has no chance of winning after the fiasco of the last 12 years but there must be a feeling of every man for himself at the moment.

          I think there’s quite a few sphincters twitching on the Labour backbenches the nearer the GE approaches. I doubt they’ll allow Brown much more time.

          • JMT says:

            I think they know that the gig is up – hence the panic over expenses.

            No chance to feather the nest if Brown gets the boot, so just leave the rambling fool where he is.

            Look at the body language – they are not waiting for a witty, pithy riposte from Brown, more of a “Christ, did he really just say that?”

            The only option is to stymie ANY expense reform until they lose their jobs. In the time honoured tradition of MPs, they will not give a fig for anyone but themselves.

          • Granny smith says:

            Postman Pat’s keeping very quiet on strike’s.

          • Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

            Labour never get rid of their Leader, cowards the lot of them.

          • Dild O'Brainfree says:

            Dave is deliberately shit

            Remember when he’s deliberately shit in the future it’s all a cunning plan
            Hahahahahahahahaha!!

        • 222
          Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

          Well he has got to be of some use.

    • 80
      Fees Office Clerk says:

      Don’t understand why Cameron uses Brown’s employment figures when the real unemployment total must be closer to 5 million.

      • 92
        Man in EU motorcade says:

        Saving ammo for election campaign , when it is called 30 seconds before the deadline

        • 155
          Fees Office Clerk says:

          Better that Cameron plants the “New Labour Statistics are all lies” seeds now. They will then bear ripened fruit just in time for the election.

        • 296
          Qui Bono says:

          I just wonder if a “national emergency” under RIPA will be called 30 seconds before the deadline?

          You could offer Clegg a job as parliamentary under secretary for Wales for something and that would buy the Lib Dems, and the power is on the statute books, it would all be legal.

      • 303
        anonymous says:

        as if you know about ‘real’ figures …. duh!!

  22. 70
    Question Slyme says:

    I didn’t watch it – It was the right thing to do!

  23. 81
    Some bloke says:

    The BBC’s advice for anyone captured by Somali pirates: “learn how to say ‘hello and welcome aboard’ in the local language so the pirates won’t feel threatened.”
    I’m not kidding! What fucking planet do these fuckers inhabit? Jeezus…

    • 121
      Question Slyme says:

      The BBC have stolen that policy. It was first used by 15 Royal Navy sailors captured at gunpoint by Iranian guards in the Gulf.

      It works everytime, you get to keep the suits!

      • 218
        Surrender Monkeys says:

        Didn’t they just shout “we surrender” when the Iranians were still half a mile away? That is the NuLabour equal opportunities Navy for you!

    • 125
      Set Fail says:

      If you offer any resistance you will be seen as racist.

    • 147

      It’s only technically piracy.

      Besides, the BBC knows those pirates are delightful and diverse, and that horrible white middle class retired couple may even be homophobic. They deserve all they get.

    • 169
      Anonymous says:

      Not bad advice. Just like having “RAM HERE” signs to avoid unnecessary damage.

      The real key is to post all your travel plans, schedules and personal details on the web. The government helps by publishing the equipment lists, per boat, for all to see. With this information you can almost be certain of capture so you can try out your new language skills.

      The government do it for small plane owners too. They publish the home address of the owner so you can easily kidnap the right family to make sure your parcel gets delivered.

      The Government recently started selling CD-ROMS with all the home addresses to any commercial company they like. The ICO saw no reason to think this was wrong.

      It is amazing the lengths people go to make the pirates life easier. Such thoughtfulness makes me weep.

    • 186
      Bluebeard the Tory says:

      We should get into this whole piracy gig, what with our coal, steel, car and pottery industries dead or dying. We can’t survive on gambling bankers and mobile phone shops alone and it’s not like the rest of the world doesn’t hate us already.

    • 305
      anonymous says:

      who says it’s pirates – other than the bbc?

      it could be their local council catching up with them for unpaid council tax ….

  24. 83
    Anonymous says:

    Hain – We need a more accountable EU.

    His solution? An unelected President. Brilliant!

    • 264
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Yes, that was funny. Still good thing is GB supports Blair so no worries there that is like the kiss of death. Blair has been McDoomed

  25. 88
    streamfisher says:

    Usual complete waste of time, same non answers and evasion, anything awkward go from the particular to the general…any question put to Brown or ignore question altogether and attack opposition for? being in opposition!, same planted questions and pre-prepared answers. The only person who stood up with conviction in his voice and not shouted down being Bell the self elected chief porker of the piggery.

  26. 89
    SpaceCowboy says:

    9 more months of an ineffective govt. Where is Oliver Cromwell when you need him

    • 119
      Anonymous says:

      DEAD and long gone.
      Rise of the Idiots remain.. waiting
      CLS
      10 RUN
      Blair 2.0 Codename ZANUCON
      Error………….

      • 286
        Gurner says:

        c:\cd 10downingstreet
        c:\10downingstreet>del Brownstuff2.0.exe
        c:\10downingstreet\del Brownstuff2.0.exe Are you sure (Y/N)?
        Y
        Error…………….

        • 294
          Gurner says:

          c:\cd 10downingstreet
          c:\10downingstreet>SpinDoctor5.0.exe
          c:\10downingstreet\Are you sure you want to run SpinDoctor5.0.exe (Y/N/Certainly Not)?
          Certainly Not
          .
          .
          .
          .
          (((BLEEP)))))(((Computer Says No))))
          Error……Your machine has been corrupted by a Dirty Trojan called MandleBum…Please update your firewall and close all back doors!!!

    • 227
      Old Ironsides says:

      Here I am – get my armour and sword and I will despatch these lily livered traitors from this Parliament of knaves for you! I will start with Cyclops and despatch him quickly at the Despatch Box whilst he is uttering his non-answers, lies, evasions and tractor statistics!

      BTW – what is a tractor?

    • 266
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Dead and gone but never fear we have Guido Fawkes and November 5th is coming very soon.

  27. 103
    Glennys Kinnocks Glory Hole says:

    Boring even Gurner Browns other eye has gone to sleep.

  28. 105
    P1 says:

    Cameron has stayed on for the Nimrod crash report and to hear Ainsworth in action. Brown has gone back to the bunker.

  29. 112
    caesars wife says:

    I thought it went well for Dave , and ruins staement that he would change clearly not evident , enjoyed the plant questions and clegg tried a straightforward approach but alas that fell under the fife road roler , splat , grind , reverse , splat ,grind ,gear crunch, there you all are folks question answered effectively .

    babs windsor is leaving east enders , so its true then white flight has been going on ! or was boris having a screen test ?

    Good week for Allah , hes managed to blow up more innocent men women and children of his own faith , isnt about time they renamed the quoran as , gun toting zealots in permanent medieval state of arrested developement for dummies

  30. 115
    Sir William Waad says:

    Prime Minister’s Questions – how do they know what the score is?

    • 128
      Question Slyme says:

      Brown doesn’t deserve his place in the House of Commons pub quiz, he’s never answered a question.

  31. 124
    Clarence says:

    Guido, please can we have a Totty thread at some stage, please? We haven’t had one for ages.

    Some nice Tory lass with enormous puppies would please this old man enormously.

    Thanks.

    xx

  32. 132
    Master Baiter says:

    Gordon’s the greatest, he’s so much better than Cameron.

    Look it up on google! I would prove it but my hands are busy working Gordon’s shaft.

    Gordon’s got better hair!

    I love Gordon…

    • 140
      George Osborne says:

      ‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!

      That slap head pushed me out from sitting next to DC, I’ll get him for that. He’s just like a garden gnome the northern oik, whine, whine, whine.

    • 238
      Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

      You are making me sick! Go away, as far away as you can possibly go which does not come anywhere near Fife. I need a respite from both of you.

  33. 135
    QE is artificial intervention and will cost us dear says:

    Is the United States (and Britain) about to follow Japan into a decade of economic stagnation? After Japan’s asset bubble burst in the early 1990s, its economy took a sharp downturn, prompting government officials to extend massive loans to banks and businesses while investing in infrastructure—much
    like the activity and proposals floating around the U.S. today. The results led to a decade of economic malaise and recession. The causes of Japan’s bubble were also very similar to those of the American (and UK) housing bubble and ensuing recession. Given the parallels, it is important to look at what the United States (and Britain) can learn from the Japanese experience to avoid similar economic struggle.
    The Japanese government’s response to their recession was a wide-ranging mix of fiscal policy, monetary policy and denial. In the face of rapid economic growth, the Bank of Japan erratically shifted interest rates, first up and then sharply down. The Ministry of Finance downplayed the degree of toxic debt banks were left holding when the bubble burst and instead encouraged more
    lending. And in an attempt to restart growth and stem unemployment, the government spent massive amounts of money on public works projects and stimulus checks to citizens. All of this carried a common thread: government intervention in the market.
    Like the governing sentiment in Washington (and London) during this recession, the Japanese government was convinced it had to act to save the market when that country’s asset bubble burst. But easing credit rates created artificial demand. Government loans and stimulus spending weren’t economically productive and only served to increase the nation’s debt and prolong the economic malaise. Worse, businesses spent critical time on the sidelines, waiting for government bailouts, instead of consolidating their losses, clearing their balance sheets of bad investments, and reorganizing. The businesses avoided hard decisions, but they reaped a harsh economic environment.
    The ensuing recessionary period in Japan would come to be known as the “Lost Decade,” and was characterized by an average economic growth rate of less than 1 percent.1 Unfortunately, there is evidence that the crisis would have been resolved sooner if the Japanese government had simply stayed out of the market’s way.

    Richard Katz Council for Foreign Relations (US)

    • 148
      Master Baiter says:

      Quantitative easing was used notably by the Bank of Japan (BOJ) to fight domestic deflation in the early 2000s.

      http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2001/el2001-31.html

      Ten years after the bubble burst.
      QE ended the lost decade in Japan

      Hahaha

      • 156
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        Conclusion

        The data provide little evidence that the new steps taken by the BOJ are having far greater effects than previous efforts.

        You really should read these things first before posting so you don’t end up with egg on your simple face.

        • 190
          Master Baiter says:

          It’s hard to read when you’re up to your ears in Gordon’s colon you know.

          See also: Nick Robinson.

      • 162
        Ozzie says:

        Mastur bater, you’re a bigger cretin than David Blanchflower. A shameless individual who is now spinning furiously for Brown.

      • 166
        Nasty Liebore says:

        Masturbator

        LOL

        That report is 8 years old and Japan is still in recession!!

      • 180
        Master Baiter = Walter Mitty says:

        You see that idiot trying to prove a point by quoting dodgy sources?

        That’s you, that is.

      • 281
        Putin says:

        How can you end a lost decade exactly? You might be able to recover one which would involve time travel preumably.

        Otherwise you make no sense.

        We are all born ignorant, but you are working very hard to remain stupid

    • 151
      Master Baiter says:

      Google.

      I can’t think of an intelligent response, so that is all.

      Hair. Slaphead. Started in America. Getting on with the job. Etc., Etc. Etczzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  34. 142
    Liam says:

    Did Dave or Cleggy bring up the shocking admission that Labout deliberately imposed mass immigration on this country by conning the electorate in order to socially engineer multi-culti and stuff the Tories and the rest of the so-called ‘right’?

    No?

    Perhaps they think the British public haven’t noticed yet?

    • 149
      Master Baiter says:

      So what? Clegg has better hair than Cameron but Brown has the best of all.

      • 158
        anon says:

        I shared a lift with Brown not so long ago. His hair looked dirty and greasy. There was a green stain down the front of his grubby-looking white shirt. His breath smelled foul. His flies were half-open. He smelled of stale sweat. His shoes were dirty and the lace of one of them was undone.

        His minders seemed embarrassed to be seen with him.

        • 161
          George Osborne says:

          ‘Ere stop messin’ abaahht!

        • 177
          Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

          I overheard his wife calling him messy too. Only a wife would be party to his smalls

        • 183
          I despise Labour and everyone who votes for them says:

          A couple of years ago my colleague, Ken, was flying from Edinburgh to Lunnun.

          Brown got onboard and grunted to Ken that he was sitting in Brown’s seat.

          Ken, who despises Brown, replied, “Am I fuck”.

          More grunts from Brown as he set off down the aisle looking for his seat!

          I would have loved to have been there :)

        • 189
          Some bloke says:

          Brown is an international laughing stock; a total embarrassment to this country. I just wish he would FOAD.

      • 177
        chad says:

        Fuck me, Master Baiter spends so much time on here, I think he’s gone native.

      • 182
        Master Baiter = Walter Mitty says:

        You see that dirty pube on the rim of the urinals in your favourite toilet trading establishment?

        That’s your glorious leader’s hair, that is.

      • 249
        Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

        It’s gie grey though, and getting greyer and he is wearing very badly. Trouble is when you are doing something you do not really believe in then as with his pal Blair, you age very badly.
        Margaret Thatcher never looked as bad after her term in office, because, even though I loathed her with all my being, she believed in everything she did.

      • 269
        Mastur Bator says:

        “So what?”

        You are Ed Balls and I claim my five immigrant slaves.

    • 150
      the British public says:

      I’ve noticed and I’m feckin furious, now, what’s on telly tonight?

    • 164
      JMT says:

      Old Nick has, but the deliberately Labour imposed mass immigrant community slapped him down for it.

      And Call Me Dave cannot risk bringing it up in case a few might vote for him.

      Cleggy will not because he would have done it anyway and hopes that they will all vote for him.

      Brown will not even mention it, because he is PRAYING that they all vote for him.

      The BBC (MiniTruth) has declared that it is a non-story and to move along, nothing to see.

    • 170
      streamfisher says:

      Fait accompli, they ARE now the great ‘British’ public.

  35. 153

    Welcome to NuLab’s Britain, where think-tanks become slush-funds, black becomes white and lies become truth.

    The gulag isn’t far away…

  36. 179
    bandersnatch says:

    Plain notes from PMQs

    Back Bencher – Pleural plaques: pre asbestosis and mesothelioma. PM is meeting gp of MPs tomorrow.

    Dave – Welcomes PM’s u-turn on cut of £20 million for the Territorial Army: praises both Tory and Labour MPs who challenged him on that. (Noise from back benches.)

    Gordy – More refs to terrorist bombs in Pakistan and Afghanistan, esp the deaths of the United Nations personnel. We have to ensure regular army numbers. That means more money for them. TA who go to Afghanistan were always due to get training. 1 £billion extra has been spent. However, having further discussed with army he decided: ‘It was the right thing to do.’ (Noises of hilarity from back benchers.)

    Dave – He was proposing cuts in basic training. After the wrong policy, weeks of dithering, he was forced eventually to climb down. What a loss of authority!

    Gordy – Recites tractor stats on the economy… In all these cases the Tories are wrong.

    Dave… ‘Admit you didn’t end boom and bust.’

    Gordy … ‘We always said…’etc etc. If we had taken Tory advice 3,000 N Rock jobs would have been lost.

    D – ‘You can’t get away with that!’ (Whoooooo! from back benchers.) In June PM said: ‘This country is leading the rest of the world out of depression’.

    G – Our unemployment is lower than that in other countries. Tory policies would keep us in recession. Small businesses, and home owners are better off than elsewhere.

    D – France, Germany, Japan and many more (long list) are already out of depression! PM had said we were the best placed in the world to come out of recession!… (Noise from MPS. Very noisy house today).

    G – (Again) … Unemployment levels are better here… Then switches to how everyone is against the Tories’ policies. Amongst a list of other financial sins, they want to withdraw the fiscal stimulus.

    D – We have had the longest depression since records began… Rotten system… Everything he has said about the economy was wrong. No one will trust him to get us out of it.

    G – Tories were wrong on restructuring, and about the New Deal… They have no idea how to ‘get us out of growth’. (PM visibly struggling… I’ll swear that is exactly what he said… Back benchers howling… Speaker intervenes here, I think, before next questioner called.)

    Patricia Hewitt – State visit of PM of India. What is PM doing to reinforce trade links?

    G – Thanks PH for being chairman of England/India committee Exudes blandness on the subject…

    Clegg – International climate change conference at Copenhagen. How would PM characterise his positive actions as opposed to his intentions?

    G – We have met our targets… Commited to long term cuts … Need more widespread political understanding… All countries must make committments, Will discuss these beforehand with EU colleagues.

    Clegg – Air travel is up, you support a third runway at Heathrow, there is still a lot of dirty coal power. We have some of the most poorly insulated housing in Europe. The PM will have no authority at Copenhagen unless he fixes more of these things at home in the UK.

    G – Liberal councillors fight planning permissions of green energy installations and don’t support nuclear power.

    BB – Granparents looking after their own grandchildren… Real financial support needed.

    G – Cross party meetings on this. Soon they will get automatic NS contributions.

    BB – Electoral fraud in Afghanistan. No political solution will come from troops. What lessons have been learned for the rerun?

    G – There were insufficient monitors. We are strengthening local government. Aiming for a corruption-free central govt, and to split Taliban ideologues off from the rest and build up Afghan military. (No surprises there then!)

    Alun Michael – British canals are ‘no longer a drain on our national resources.’ (Big laugh at unfortunate phraseology) We should treasure them like national parks.

    G – Agrees and says that we need to encourage further investment.

    Bob Spink – Remembrance day. Canvey Island British legion has a new Gurkha member. Please give Gurkhas same rights.

    G – Commends the British Legion and their Festival of Remembrance. A committee is looking into it.

    Stephen Pound – African Carribean community are under particular financial stress because of increases in air passenger duty. The tax will hit them hard.

    G – Will meet and discuss but… information on green taxation…

    BB – Why are you refusing to instigate a Public Inquiry into Lockerbie? You have the power, but are leaving it to the Scottish authorities.

    G – Megrahy is still a convicted terrorist. It is for the Scots to pursue it further.

    BB – ‘PM, we live in dangerous times’… (Hilarity)… References to terrorism… We need a strong EU alliance to defeat it… Contrasts Labour approach with Tories who left the centre left EU alliance and joined up with oddball extremists.

    G – Amazingly, they have put themselves out on a limb…

    BB – Why do we need an EU president, and who is the PM supporting?

    G – (Rather reluctantly, I felt ) PM said that if TB wished to stand he would support him.

    BB … Offcom ‘Early Day Motion’… Hidden phone charges… Should they cut their rates for changing company?

    G – (I missed the reply)

    BB – Green Energy company in his constituency needs support not red tape.

    G – Agrees. Will look at further information.

    Gwyn Prosser – British merchant seaman need a proper employment and training package.

    G – Ships now flagged from the UK. Union and industry co-operating.

    BB – Globe Legislaters Forum. Will PM meet them before Copenhagen?

    G – We need to raise money for low carbon projects in developing countries.

    Stuart Bell – On MPs allowances: ‘Please tell the house what the next steps will be. ‘

    G – The report will be delivered next Wednesday. After, it will be a matter for a committee of the House.

    BB- Public transport in Bristol: We need an integrated transport authority.

    G – We are spending more on…etc… I will look at what he says.

    BB – Climate change: We must minimize the effect on future generations Commends PM effusively… (Riotous house. Speaker intervenes.)

    G – The Tories don’t like wind turbines or nuclear power.

    BB – International year of astronomy… Campaign for dark skies… Please can the PM see that people turn down lights in public buildings.

    G – (Platitudinously). We all have responsibity to save energy…

  37. 181
    No more! says:

    That PMQ was the most god awful boring and dreadful 30 minutes ever.

    The Labouring Party front bench looked dead – Harman,sans Poppy,looked like she had just got up from a 5 year sleep,Ball’s still looked like he was dreaming of being at the despatch box with wifey at her knees giving him a bout of quantitative easing,Bob indefence sec looked even more like a bus conductor from the ’60’s and the others looked like this was their final day of miserable life.

    Clegg – what a waste of space – climate change? This planet has been around for millions of years and we can save it all in the next 5 milliseconds of it’s total life? Right,you mean they can tax us and spend it on shoring up the 10 million new immigrants that Straw will be welcoming at Dover between now and 2030.

    If that PMQ was my company’s conference and we all performed/looked/seemed/spoke/questioned like those 648 tosers did,we would not have a job to wake up to tomorrow.

    This can’t go on for ANOTHER 6 months,surely.

    • 187
      Master Baiter says:

      Oh, yes it can.

      I love Brown.

    • 191
      streamfisher says:

      Yeah, Bob looked a dead ringer for Reg Varney ten years on and recovering from a heart attack, the old bins gettin misty (holds on to his socialist principles NHS glasses if ever I saw them).

    • 316
      bandersnatch says:

      ‘No more…’ I have decided merely to report what I see and hear of this PMQ charade. This is because of my particular on-screen PC widget, and because I can. Agreed there is usually one of Guidos real time videos, but it isn’t always easy to remember and, so-to-speak, transfer into words the sequence of events… or non events… Depends on your visual memory, I suppose.

      Your comments are completely valid. I think Bercow should intervene when questions to the PM are not answered, and a list of the governments achievements or the oppositions sins are recited instead. He should also be able to intervene… I don’t know how, over obviously planted or arse-lickingly sycophantic questions.

      By far the best ‘holding the govt to account’ is done, IMHO, bit by bit ,in committee. We are seeing more of these proceedings, and they are so much more constructive than PMQs. At the moment it is a cross between bear-baiting and an inspection of the PM by the TV audience for possible new symptoms or drug effects.

      Committee chairman John McFall is one of my heroes. His acid questioning of the bankers is something to be treasured.

  38. 184
    Sky's_the_Limit says:

    There is definite collusion between the 3 main parties to hush discussions on tax hikes, expenses and immigration.

    They appear to plan the session like professional wrestlers do – (Can’t wait for one of them do a half-nelson on Bercow though).

    The 45 quid surcharge in long-haul flights and 20 quid for medium haul due to come in on November 1 is a perfect example of cross-party conspiracy.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223430/Air-passengers-hit-hike-long-haul-fares-Government-increases-tax.html

    The only airline it is due to cripple, however is British Airways, since only those planes are exclusively based in the UK. The 1000 jobs to be lost are an anticipatory move by an airline about to be garroted by its own government.
    Long haul passengers for European airlines may circumvent the tax by offering free first-leg flights to Paris etc. where the surcharge will amount to only 2 quid.

    • 191
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      There would be NO unemployment if the government didn’t interfere. Period!
      I defy anyone to argue with that statement.

      • 197
        JD says:

        Slash welfare benefits and watch all the lazy buggers scrambling for jobs. We wouldn’t need all the Poles and Latvians to do the work then.

      • 204
        Sir William Waad says:

        Unemployment was a serious problem long before governments started monkeying with the economy – in Tudor times, for instance – so there is firm evidence that governments are not the sole cause of unemployment. Of course, they tend to increase it by allocating capital and labour in very inefficient ways and developing perverse benefit systems.

        • 212
          Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

          We’re not in tudor times. Folk are more aware of what they want and can travel easier. I’m coming from if we massively reduced interference from here onwards.
          All we need is the vital services for protection not coddling.

          • Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

            We were never in Tudor times forsooth! You may well have been ut we were at war with you, Oh and you won that round.
            Never mind, we want to leave you alone, you can keep broon though, we don’t want that useless twat back.

      • 328
        kabbaged says:

        NO — full employment causes wage inflation, which in turn makes firms uncompetitive, which makes some of them go bust, which feeds back to some workers becoming unemployed. More unemployment leads to downward wage pressure, which cuts costs and raises profits. Profitable firms expand, increase production and may take on more workers, leading to fuller employment & so on ….
        The economy is essentially a chaotic system.

  39. 193
    JD says:

    Anyone for Neathergate?

  40. 195
    Boycott the Licence Fee says:

    Can someone help me out here? Who are we at war with currently: Eurasia or Eastasia?

  41. 219
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    A bit of mission creep, pushed through under statutory instrument denying debate

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8329583.stm

    to be used to target those who don’t pay their council tax so probably the poorest members of the community, or denying the right of protest

  42. 237
    chronic says:

    OT. Just watched a statement regarding the Nimrod crash 3 years ago when Aintworthatoss was a minister for the MoD, and I can not remember when I have heard the word FAILURE mentioned so many times in one statement.Now this twat is in charge. But its ok because he has said sorry.

    • 254
      streamfisher says:

      Hardly his fault though, what person in his right mind takes a bus conductor and puts him in charge of the defence of the realm?

      • 260
        Olive says:

        Inspector!

      • 311
        Porky Pies MP says:

        A bus conductor, really! I didn’t know the fat twot was that clever. So we’ve a bus conductor as Defence Minister and a postman as Home Secretary. Wonderful, no wonder the the country is fooked.

  43. 243
    SO17 says:

    Many years ago on nightwork whilst locking up the chamber of the commons, me and me mate had a lively debate over the dispatch boxes.
    I can’t remember the full details but I did do a fart at one stage to which my mate said,
    ‘I recommend this motion to the house’.
    Little did I know 15 years ago that that fart would have more substance than what comes out of Gordon Browns gob now.

  44. 267
    Bait for Mastur Baiter says:

    Have I mentioned how the Liebor Elite (ie The very grandly be-titled Baroness Scotland, just one example) employ domestic slaves, off the book for cash money, to save a penny or two on the mininum wage and it’s a bonus if they employ illegal immigrants, they can’t really blab!

    Has Gordo sacked her? I think we know the answer!

  45. 270
    NewsLion says:

    Mc Doom still going then.. another week another stair in the Dissent to Cyclops McDooms hell, aka his vision for Britain

    http://newslion.blogspot.com/

  46. 271
    Patek Philippe Mandlebum says:

    I always like one on the wrist:

    http://news.watchesvip.com/107554525891.html

    “The results show that Russian politicians, artistes and commercial elites will choose Switzerland golden watches”

  47. 289
    Master Baiter's mum (Mrs Spunkwell) says:

    Off the Interweb, its time for your homework, young man.

    And don’t froget to tidy your room.

  48. 309
    Anonymous says:

    I see Brown was back to normal at PMQ’S.
    His left hand pawing away at the despatch box is fascinating. It’s almost as if the hand has a mind of it’s own. Watch the Mentalist with the sound turned down.
    Very strange……

    • 313
      Down with Brown! says:

      Sadly Cameron seems to be slowly copying him. I hope the so-called Blair clone won’t turn into a Brown clone.

  49. 318
    Cameron was shit on purpose! (again) says:

    It’s all a cunning plan

    why Gideon Osborne is so shit is an even more cunning plan

    if only you knew!

    • 323
      RobC says:

      There are so many snipes at Osbourne of late that he must be doing a good job because of the continual stream of puerile jibes with nothing to back them up trying to portray him as crap.
      The only shit in town being thrown appears to be by a shit scared Labour party.

      • 325
        Heir Vs Blair. Attack of the Clones - Euro Edition says:

        Call me Dave via little Georgie boy is now intent on copying the self-same Quantative Easing that was roundly mocked by Conservatives, particularly on here, for months

        It was either a terrible idea all along or he is a terrible Shadow Chancellor who didn’t realise it was a good idea
        It can’t be both

        And he is hardly short of critics from within the Conservative movement
        Ken Clarke can background brief with the best of them

  50. 326
    Observer says:

    Dave is going to change everything, you’ll see.

    We’ll tell ‘em to stuff the EU and leave immediately.
    We’ll come straight out of Afghanistan.
    We’ll cut income tax by at least ten pence.
    We’ll open a load of grammar schools.
    We’ll stop all immigration at once.
    We’ll increase the difficulty of all school exams.
    We’ll get rid of multiculturalism.
    We’ll make whole life sentences compulsory for murder.

    And that’s just the start.

  51. 327
    Irritable Brownal Syndromel says:

    Guido,please, 3 strikes and you are out rule. I can’t be bothered reading the same bastards commenting all the time

  52. 329
    Scallywag says:

    With about half of these bastards leaving the house for ever, the chance of any of them parting with any of their ill-gotten gains and/or resigning before the dissolution of parliament are less than nil. So we might just as well forget about it and concentrate on things that can be achieved.

    Lots of fun could be had at the whips’ expense. Their normal methods of getting a submission from an errant member won’t work any more with those that are leaving. They have suddenly become ‘independent’ and may wish to settle a few old scores. There must be some serious wind-up opportunities here…




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