Cautious on Kelly
The piggies are squealing now they can see the glint of Sir Christopher Kelly’s knife coming to cut off their perks. Sir Stuart Bell, the ridiculous trougher-in-chief, says somewhat disingenuously that “The House would want to look at these resolutions, to debate them… and have the opportunity to amend them.”
This is the problem, pigs don’t normally choose the manner of their own butchering. Our porcine political class determines their own fate which is why even when they are caughting cheating the public purse of hundreds of thousands (the Wintertons, Jacqui Smith) nothing happens.
Guido predicts that MPs will fight tooth and nail to keep sinecures for their spouses and children - for example we pay £40,000 a year for Jacqui Smith’s husband to knock out expense claim forms when not knocking one out on the porn channel. Sir George Young, the Tory Shadow Leader of the House, who is supposed be leading the charge for the clean up now Alan Duncan is too tainted, at one time employed both his wife and daughter. The pigs will put up a fearsome fight to keep these perks…
Troughing pigs… no end of ‘em.
Pigs are clever animals and know what is going to happen. In a slaughter house sheep line up in silence to meekly meet their death. Pigs on the other hand squeal all the way.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
What a low life tosspot you are sir!
Give him a knighthood, and a sword. Me thinks if they f-ck about use it.
And he says this despite the fact that labour have destroyed a very good economy in a period of 12 years!
Not only that, but Brown sold our gold at cut down prices, screwed the pensions, inflated the public sector to unmanageable levels, and allowed borrowing at unrealistic levels. In other words he’s financially in inept.
So in reality labour = financial misconduct. They are utter incompetents, generally because they are an uneducated, thick bunch; And they are all there in the name of equality!!
It’s a global crisis, it started in AMerica, US unemployment is already 10%.
German GDP fell 8% much more than the fall in the UK. Similarly Japan GDP fell more than the UK.
But most importantly the Conservitudes have been wrong at every stage of the crisis.
Hahahaha
Ha ha ha! Not taken your lithium yet? You loon.
That’s the line – it wasn’t Brown’s fault so let’s vote him in for another 5 years, suckers.
Not that he’ll be in charge for much longer. Not that he ever was.
Davey – quite agree, mate. Well said.
Micro Baiter – Yep, Germany and Japan both fell more heavily than we did BUT THEY’RE OUT OF RECESSION ALREADY AND WE’RE NOT. What does that tell you about our financial viability… should have gone to Specsavers, pal, so you can see what’s really happening …
Can I enlighten a few of the misinformed.
Banks deregulated in 80′s to lend 10 times the amount they have.
The people where encouraged to get into Dept especially here and the US.
Then the Gov took us to War in the middle east. Instability increased Energy cost. The Tax on Energy cost went up as a percentage the State took more out of the economy far more than they are supposed. Little man started to cut back. Food cost rocketed as transportation and process cost went up, The BOE/ FED put up interest rates to cool economy that was really being driven by TAX, and pushed the home owners into bankruptcy. Here endeth the first lesson.
Dont believe the PRESS. WAR caused the Global meltdown. Not the Banks the Banks just leant out the money that the States allowed them to Lend and get the people into Dept.
At least the conservatives weren’t fiddling mortgages and flipping to the extent of the low life labour scum. We haven’t forgotten about the rather chubby crook Margaret Moran and all the other fat labour piggies (Nick Brown, Prescot, Jackie Smith etc etc). These people swore blind they had done nothing wrong – they are just cowards and not fit for public office – especially that 1st class crook Jackie Smith. She deliberately lied to gain over £100,000 and she should be jailed.
Moat
Tennis court
Swimming pool
Heli pad
Duck island
Hahaha
Let’s not forget Tony “c’unt-face” McNulty. Despicable little shit that he is.
“The time according to Patek Philppe is….”
Time to get your coats New Labour.
Financial Incontinence = Labour
Financial misconduct = £175bn deficit = Labour
But the pigs still become pork!
Thieving scum! You’ll pay the price for your troughing!
Legg won’t be exacting any price – even banning employment of relatives won’t make any real difference if MP A employs MP B’s son and vice-versa. It’s just a whitewash job. Anyone who wants to turn the troughers into bacon is going to need to use their vote to get them out, and for some of us at least that means standing on an anti-corruption ticket so the rest have someone to vote for. Sorry to bring bad news, but there ain’t a quick fix!
Misreading your post, Guido, I thought you had the scoop of the century…
Alan Duncan, with a wife & daughter??
That would rule Manglebum out too then.
And it’s the same person – Reinaldo!!
Alec Guinness managed the wifey and offspring side of life OK (albeit under duress initially), so why shouldn’t “Dunkie”?
The Pigs are predicting a riot. It is the duty of every citizen to assist the Police in controlling the situation. Where do I get a cattle prod?
elf n safety has banned them
Pork prod. Apply to Uddin the ‘orrible or Scotland the fearful.
If the thieving scum do not like the reduction in expenses that are claimable by MPs – they have no need to apply for the fucking job.
I would like to encourage every last one of the hoons to seek employment in the private sector – and if they are eligible for more than the minimum wage – good on ‘em.
Just get the lamposts ready
Ours are ready – with a selection of quality piano wire.
nice lamposts with hanging baskets for a hung parliament?
Scalp the lot of ‘em. Makes good loft insulation.
correct.
LET’S JUST STOP FUCKING ABOUT AND HANG ONE OF THESE PIGS AND WATCH THE OTHERS FALL INTO LINE!
these corrupt pigs are so out of touch with the realities of the implications of their own policies and laws that they will never understand what is correct and what is wrong.
seriously, we will have to hang one of these c’unts for the message to sink in.
I am up for the gig.
Bell tat. you shall hang Bell. Then his mate from the other place if you can stand the fumes.
Bell’s claim that MPs should be able to debate and amend the expenses changes leaves me dumbstruck. Well almost. Ok, we the public have tried to be civilised about this, but if he refuses to understand why we are so pissed off with him and his greedy chums, more drastic measures may be required.
It’s like Karadic refusing to leave his cell because he doesn’t like the application of the old genocide rules.
Karadzic a Nationalist and genocidal racist, probably a member of Mr Bean Pee. He loves demonising and scapegoating Muslims.
No he was member and leader of the Serbian Democratic Party. It is the Serbian equivalent of the Labour Party, but not as murderous given how many Iraqis have been killed in the illegal war.
Stopped beating the wife yet?
The Iraqis were killed for oil, it was a colonial conflict.
The Serbs killed the Muslim Bosnians for Naitonalism and racism.
Lesson over
The dead children in Iraq the blood of which Labour has all over its hands must be grateful to know that it was just about colonialism and it wasn’t racist. Phew! What a relief.
The attraction for nationalist, racist, fascist, trollops like Karadzic and Griffin is the idea is to get the deluded idiots that have been persuaded their problems are caused by those of another race to turn on their neighbours who happen to be of a different race. By stirring up hatred between ordinary people they get power.
Racism is wrong
God is Truth is Love
You’d never be able hang them. They are so slimy that they’d just ooze through the piano wire and safely slip away.
No one’s taken down the Guido lamppost poster I put up. It’s a bit faded now
I would be impressed if he was able to perform both duties simultaneously.
I love a challenge, fap fap fap.
“People who persistently download illegal content will be cut off from the net, Business Secretary Peter Mandelson has announced”
The same Mendelbum who was not interested in the issue until he had dinner with anti piracy critic David Geffen of Dreamworks etc at the Rothschils holiday home in Corfu in August.
I guess backhanders from others are ok as long as it dosn’t come out of the UK tay payers pocket….
Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, “Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.”
All members of the Tribe.
One Folk!
Folk all!
Does Osborne hang out with these same people?
He certainly hangs to the right, you can see it in his troos.
Good to know that Harperson and George Young have blocked any Legg investigation into house flipping (on the sly in a closed meeting, naturellement). John Bercow has let them get away with it. If anyone deserved a chilli-coated butt-plug, it’s him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6451673/MPs-expenses-Speaker-John-Bercow-helps-house-flippers-get-away-with-it.html
Sir Stuart Bell was apparently in the meeting too… Quel suprise.
So they want to use up some of the small amoint of time they bother to work discussing their own trough requirements but did not feel the need to discuss Councils and Quangos getting the right to break into our homes and steal our property whenever they decide we owe them money ?
Councils get ‘Al Capone’ power to seize assets The Times
H/T The Daily Politics
So Tessa Jowell can expect a knock on her door?
No it is her door.
If it were their door then ….. .
It would be wonderful if some director used their powers to put in a order to seize the assets of the MPs that have benefited from illegal expense claims out side the rules. It seems that there are no restrictions other than a quick end to a career.
But it would be fun!
I have you almost where I want you now.
I can have you arrested on the flimsiest excuse, take your fingerprints and DNA.
I can criminalize you at the drop of a hat, leading to loss of employment, if you haven’t lost it already.
I can very easily bear false witness and have your children confiscated.
I can now enter your home at will, and freeze or confiscate your assets.
I can now leave you to simply rot without the trouble of putting you in prison. There are no places left anyway.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Vote Labour. You know it makes sense.
Astounding how they find a voice and so much energy when their personal finances are threatened yet when its matters pertaining to the nation’s well-being they just can’t be arsed.
fawkes DONT FORGET PMQS THIS WEEK
Why don’t we tell the troughers that they can employ their spouses etc BUT at a more advantagous rate to the tax payer? Did jacqui Smith not sack her husband for gross misconduct or is he on a final written warning?
Jacqboots Jacqui Jackboots Jacqui
Jackboots Jacqui Smith
She got away with it!
A govt minister off record said of this rule that divorces would go up amongst MPs.
Think of all the jobs below 64k that require working away from home for long periods.
Quite a bloody few.
My heart bleeds.
No change here, nothing to see.
I am convinced change will only come through civil disobedience – MPs & the political elite simply have no respect for the electorate & won’t until the worst troughers are swinging from Traitors Gate in front of a righteous baying mob engaged in an old English blood ritual.
As much as many would like that, sadly I fear that when civil disorder comes, it will be those who have nothing against those who have something. The people against the people in desperation to survive. The real criminals, as you point out, will get away with it. This country’s problems have not yet begun.
We need an election and the resolutions to Kelly must be put in the manifestos
good idea
Just like the promise on the EU treaty
It’s beyond the idiotic party politics in this country. This is way beyond labour, tory, liberal etc. Isn’t that obvious by now?
Just read that the Proceeds of Crime Act is to be used by Councils. So dog fouling? litter? Wallop they will have your assets.
Parliament didn’t even debate the POCA it came in as a statutory instrument.
Britain…Grate doesn’t it.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6892830.ece
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Give these jobsworth barstewards any power and of course they will abuse it. Thats how laws ‘that will only be used against terrorists’ are routinely being used against mums applying to send little Chardonnay to a school that isn’t currently twinned with a Crack House.
God I hate this Government. Timothy McVeigh is becoming more and more of a role model isn’t he?
Pity none of the internal suicide religio wackjobs ever get to the evil barstewards in power.
Now that could be an oportunity for the bearded wierdy Rowan to make his particular brand of religion popular with the people again – get those explosive belts on and off to the labour party conference with you, vicar.
Absolutely feffing incredible.
Welcome to Nazi Britain under the National Socialist Labour Party.
They make the unsavoury party look better each day – & no one should ever forgive them for that.
Perverse and deluded, the Labour party being pro EU is by definition not Nationalist.
The Nationalists are the group the Conservitudes have jumped in to bed with in the EU Parliament. A lot of them are racists too.
Hahaha
They are still totalitarian.
hahaha yourself, dickwad
So why did the Conservitudes join them in the EU Parliament?
Hahaha
Tories are not totalitarian nor do they use fascist methods like Labour. What has the EU got to do with this?
tosser
Holy fucking shit.
And with *cash incentives* to use the powers. Remember what happened to traffic wardens when they started getting bonuses based on how many tickets they issued?
Holy fucking shit…
What is happening to this country? We’re giving fucking park keepers the right to enter our homes and strip our bank accounts?
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
I don’t give a damn with assurances that this will only be used agains, for instance, people flogging hookey DVDs at car boot sales. We saw how much these assurances were worth with RIPA and the various terrorism acts. They will always be abused by these ideological psychos in councils and elsewhere. We are *sprinting* to totalitarianism. Fucking dashing. Hurdling those ancient rights. Pole vaulting those time-honoured restrictions on the State.
Face facts people – we are the enemy. We face an undeclared civil war. Ask yourself – is there a benign reason for this? Is there a decent and honourable reason to shove this through without democratic oversight?
hard rain’s gonna fall. Get yourself an umbrella while you can.
PMQ Dave Cam Question HOT TIPS:
1) Economy worst in Europe
2) Postal Strike
3) European presidency
4) Airline Tax too much
PMQs – Cleggie’s Conundrums
1) Cookie Cover-up
2) Airline Tax not enough
3) 2001 – Borders had too much sea to cross
I just want to see how many times Brown bangs his fist around – perhaps Mr cameron will ask about his backing for Blair – ickle Miliband does – does Gordo? In fact Mr Cameron might want to get Brown to sit down and whisk mandy in – why not speak to the organ grinder?
We should be paid the same as doctors ‘cos we run surgeries.
But you voters are such an ungrateful, vindictive lot, so we couldn’t raise the basic. Now you want to humiliate us and deprive us of our perquisites (sorry, expenses wholly and entirely claimed for the furtherance of our parliamentary duties).
Don’t you trust us, or what?
After all, we are your representatives, why begrudge us?
We are ‘law makers’. We make up the rules for you. We know what is best for you and you treat us with contempt.
Just imagine how miserable your lives would be if our wise and serious deliberations did not bear fruit in the splendid edifice that is the Statute Book.
Look around you.
Open your eyes.
All is well.
Don’t be perverse.
Bernard Jenkin, “senior” (do they still think that is a badge of honour?) backbench Tory has troughed at least 63 grand . . . Change of rules, see, and, of course, “he wasn’t told” blah, blah, blah. Try that one on the coppers next time they feel your collar. Will he pay it back? Of course not. Will he be de-selected? Of course not. Will Cameron lift a finger? Of course not. On the contrary, he’ll probably be given a peerage shortly.
These swine must be stopped. They must be defeated; they must be removed from all vestiges of power.
And, one other thing. Please, surely, it must be, that no one will ever again vote for Alan Duncan.
Not only will some have heart attacks but others will not be able to buy their mistresses Xmas pressies from Debenhams and others are facing divorce because they will not be able to give their partners pocket money in sufficient measure.
In addition many MP’s are having to give up the status symbol of having a nice little flat in central London even though they are within easy commuting distance of London and ALL YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IS HARMING THESE POOR LITTLE PIGGIES.
SHAME ON YOU MR FAWKES
Sorry, OT but important 7 apologies if someone has already posted it here:
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TaxPayers Alliance petition to President Klaus – please sign it.
Cheers
Mrs Rightly Right Wing- If the treaty is abandoned by this it will make matters worse. We need the treaty to be ratified before the election. This will enable us to have a referendum on the whole european issue. Otherwise the same rules and laws will only come in by the back door eventually and we will still have all the euro laws and red tape we have already got.
Losers
Coo coo Master Baiter,
I fear that you are correct and that I must be a dimwit.
In your reply you said:
Yes, quite likely West Germanywould have faired better than the reunited Germany,
but it’s a bit like saying Europe would not be suffering from the crisis if it was not in Europe.
So, what about the QE question and the Conservitude ‘leader’ lovin’it in his press conference
today?
Wassup, scared?
I say:
What if Europe was in the Pacific Ocean? You have constantly stated that the crisis is global, GLOBAL. So what difference would it make if Europe was at the South Pole, or in America?
Did you mean if Europe was on another planet?
Please answer me cos now I am very confused!
QE on the scale that America and Britain have done it will lead to starvation and war!
As for the conservitudes, well I am an unreconstructed hippy, so please ask a con, or are you suggesting that if Cameroon was Gordoom then it would be Cameroon’s fault.
For the Love of God, please remove my confusion.
Yours
ONH
Don’t hold your breath Nick.
Full of pasties, pizzas and pies man can hold his breath.
Pester and Paster man, the Europe in Europe is a reference to Europe being in Europe as in the European Union. Yes the crisis is global, many of the dimwitted right wing dinosaurs that infest this site are oblivious of that fact. Well done if that’s a recognition and acceptance of a self evident fact.
Having no opinion on the Conservitudes’ ‘leader’ being in favour of QE is as it is. At the risk of causing further confusion he’s in favour of it.
Hope that helps, dimwit.
No MB it does not help!
So Europe is in Europe, MB!
Well that is a relief then!
Phil, holding your breath is supposedly a good exercise for increasing your Chi!
Coo coo Master Baiter, I am off to practice internal concentration (what used to be called meditaion before the rise of shallow spirituality) but I will be back and seeking the truth in your reply to my last question about hypocricy.
I must say it is a great relief to me to have found somebody as wise as yourself to guide me!
Please do not let me down.
Love
ONH, dimwit
Coo coo Master Baiter,
usually i ignore you but seeing as you spoke about something that I know about by direct practical experience, ie Germany, I felt obliged to reply.
I walked through Trier Fussgangerzone not much more than a month ago.
It is very large and I did not see one single empty shop to let. This made your constant assertions that the Krauts are as deep in the doo doo as the Brits sound like total bullshit to me!
You have told us that you love God, but I ask you, how can it be possible to directly experience the Ecstatic Love that is the Infinite when one indulges in hypocricy.
Every scripture on the planet says it is not possible and I say it as well!
Please answer me.
Love
ONH
MB.
I walked down Karl Marx Strasse to get to the Fuss.
I am sure that you know that he was born there.
There were no Chinese pilgrims outside his house.
One of my East german buddies recently worked upon its restoration.
ONH, Microbater appears to have been scared off when confronted by the facts. I’m much impressed and appreciative. Typical lefty bully.
He’s just popped out to lay a wreath at Highgate cemetary.
Serf
an idea mooted in the pub recently was that everyone should march on the hoc and throw all of the dirty fuckers into the thames!
i pointed out that as we live in southend then that would poison the water which had taken years to cleanse since the 1950′s………
this was agreed and a guillotine solution was agreed upon…
As John Mann said on BBC Breakfast News – MPs have no other option but to accept Kelly’s recommendations in full as they no longer have any moral authority left to decide and if they refuse to accept them this matter will never end but continue to the detriment of Parliament and politicians.
He is completely right – the electorate will no longer tolerate MPs deciding their own allowances or for certain MPs to claim outrageous amounts .MPs are now in the “last chance saloon”- they will not get a second chance to put their own house in order and the electorate will regard MPs refusal to do so as “an hostile act” towards they, the electorate.
He is completely right – the electorate will no longer tolerate MPs deciding their own allowances or for certain MPs to claim outrageous amounts.”
Wanna bet? This is Britain, mate, home of the apathetic, ovine “electorate” (and what a misnomer that is). They’ll tolerate any old shit here. After all, they tolerate the fucking royal family, don’t they?
Ordinarily I would agree but the “MPs Expenses” is different.I have never seen such anger on ANYTHING and that the anger covers all political parties and views.
This will rumble on and on and on for years further reducing the standing of Parliament and MPs in equal measure.
Apropos the “Royal Family” – forgetting the “hangers on” – the Queen herself is excellent value for money.How much would “President” Blair and “First Lady” Cherie cost the taxpayers if the UK ever became a republic ? A flippin’ sight more I would suggest to you
The queen is a fucking dole scrounger. Get a fucking job, and all the hangers on around too. A president is elected–the queen is not. They are a drain on finances. It is 2009 not some kind of feudal monarchy. It’s a disgusting affront to democracy.
Problem is we haven’t made a very good job of electing anybody to put in charge. Major, Blair, Brown, oh sorry Brown wasn’t elected. I stand corrected. I think that if we had to elect the Queen, the Queen would stand a fairly good chance of winning. The electorate would automatically tick the box next to “Queen”, and hope that they get a chance to win a prize. I shall now change my name to “Prime Minister” and stand at the GE to test the theory.
Will yoy/we get a chance to elect the proposed president of Europe, I think not.
I don’t normally believe in capital punishment. But there are exceptions. There’s still a gallows at HMP Wandsworth isn’t there?
I’m for capital punishment for treason. Every nation has to have the ultimate deterrent for treason. Otherwise there’s no point having a miltary defence force.
Our military have guns for the simple reason that they will be used to kill our enimies to protect our national way of life and traditions.
There will be some sub clause buried somewhere in delegated legilslation don’t worry. Probably in a “Terrorist” Act.
why isnt tony blair in the dock at the hague?
He’s started at least three wars and although we haven’t won any we’re not on the losing side. Only losers get tried for war crimes.
Twas ever thus.
If only losers are put on trial there’s always Brown.
“pigs don’t normally choose the manner of their own butchering”
love it!
Yes. I think that probably means ‘Politicians don’t choose their electorate’ ?
Does this mean military officers will lose their nice perk of 44K a year on school fees too?
They would deserve it if they did their job which is to protect our traditions and way of life against invasion
So are military offices losing their 44K per year school fees perk or not?
Nice perk too.
Why does Labour give alcoholics on benefits extra funds? And what do you think they spend it on? A clue: they do not spend it on a cure.
Do squaddies get the allowance too? If not, take it away from the officers. After all they risk their lives equally.
A change of government is not enough to sort this mess out. We need a new system that makes MPs accountable to their electorate, rather than their party.
Westminster is no longer a guarantor of our democracy, it is just a rest home for the party placemen who allow the prime minister of the day to wield the powers of a dictator.
We have a bloody cheek criticising Karsai in Afghanistan for his corrupt regime when our own Parliament has fallen into the hands of such an arrogant,untruthful, self serving regime.
Times are indeed hard. Cuts all round etc. We’re all in this together, eh George? Er, not exactly. I see that the “Royal Family” is to have a 12.7 million pounds INCREASE this year. Hard times indeed. Unelected and talentless, words fail me over the morals of people who would request such an obscenity. This appalling situation represents so much that is wrong in the UK:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/26/royal-family-windsors-civil-list
Still think you are living democracy?
I don’t know your origins but we have a Kingdom. It’s not up for debate. If you don’t like living in a Kingdom go elsewhere. If you were born here – blame your parents.
You must be an MP. It’s the “it’s not up for debate” claim that gave you away. Yep, it just dropped out of the sky, one day, right? That’s just the way it is eh? Natural.
The Royal Family lives on state benefits. It is as simple as that. It’s a living disgrace.
I’m not an MP. By your leave nobody should voluntarily join our armed forces or civilians shouldn’t don the constable uniform if they don’t like living in a Kingdom.
Your sort are no different from every other traitor who are undermining our traditions and way of life. I don’t see Canadians, Austrailians, Kiwis or any other state calling for the demise of our kingdom.
Anyone who calls for the demise of our Kingdom is a traitor. By definition. Feck off.
Are ‘Austrailians’ a railway service?
Who is Emily No Mates? Phwoooaaaarrrrr!!!.
More of her on Guy TV please.
Purchase of second homes to be banned?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6449132/MPs-expenses-ban-on-MPs-claiming-for-mortgage-on-second-home.html
Horse. Stable door. Bolted.
Horse – on a pizza
Stable – converted to holiday flats, no CGT paid, ‘cus it was the main home, right.
Bolted – with our fucking cash.
I see a simple solution – no expenses at all.
No matter what.
Don’t like it, go find another job.
I do so hope someone has the balls to ask fivebellies on QT tomorrow if she thinks the punishment of the guilty always fits the crime.
Dimblebore will ensure that question is not put to her.
http://little-object-a.blogspot.com/2009/10/doubleplusungood.html
a vote for Labour is a vote for stagnation and death
You keep missing out Lembit Opik – why?
stormy weather over Camden!
Come to Lewisham plenty of room
Says a lot about the stupidity of our political class and how they have gotten so used to spunking away our money that when its possible to get all the “Self help” films that anybody could ever wish for @ places such as Redtube.com or tnaflix.com
for fuck all they pay and then send us the bill.
I hope to God that I havent paid for Oatens food bill
Just how much shit does £400 a month buy?
Master Baiter you probably know as you seem to keep regurgitating it all over the place
As I found out when I was made redundant, one of the conditions of receiving benefits is that one has not refused employment “within a one to one-and-a-half hour commute.”
Only when we see the proposed one hour (rail) commute criteria applied to MPs, there will be some hope that there is the same law for MPs as the electors.
Please just keep carrying on this way, troughers – you are playing right in to the hands of the anarchists.
You must surely mean ‘Patriots?
Aye friend, they are the one and the same.
Does he not like Scottish food…. ? oh sorry North British food?
I just love the quote from Roger Gale MP (quoted on the BBC), on the proposal that MPs within commuting distance of London shouldn’t be allowed second homes: “I just don’t believe that Kelly lives in the real world”.
Would that be the real world that the rest of us live in, where commuting is just a fact of life? Or would that be the strange parallel world that MPs live in where it’s considered far too difficult to commute for more than 10 minutes.
BTW, I have my own suggestion on the commuting thing. I believe Kelly’s suggestion is that MPs’ who live less then an hour’s train journey away should be ineligible for the ACA. I suggest a little modification on that: rather than 1 hour’s train journey, make it 80 miles from Westminster. If that takes more than 1 hour by train, perhaps MPs could reflect on that when they are next debating transport policy.
If polititions don’t like the terms & conditions of being an MP then bugger off,
it’s not a compulsary job
What’s the expenses like for the ‘soon to be’ President of Europe?
We’ll never know, because he shredded them.
….and who’s a clever little piggie President Bliar
Do you mean Anthony Charles Lynton Fitzblair?
He aint president yet but he is a piggy if anyone can find his expenses chittys.
A 5 year cushion for the piggies to tidy up the accounts and put their scrounging family “employees” on some Quango or lobbyist makework
Still not tough enough.
Enforce the new rules straight after the Election
If you don’t like it fuck off
Suzy Gale, working wife for Roger Gale MP has been on telly. She states she will take legal action if forced to quit. And why not, where else would she get a job that pays so much at her age? I think we’ll see many more moaning piggies like her ‘nice little earning’ family before long.
The easiest thing for those MPs who don’t like all these new regulations is for them to resign. They’ll be thousands wanting and capable of doing their jobs even under the new regulations.
Surely the employment contracts of all these ‘employees’ expire with every general election?
dont be silly mate look at the bitch Kirkbride and the permanancy of her paid hangers on/
Its Peter and Iris Robinson and their family MP business which I worry about. I hope they’ll be ok
JULIE KIRKBRIDE EMPLOYS HER ENTIRE FAMILY – and Cameron says nothing!
Brother, Sister, Mother, Friends and Stooges. Are we supposed to still vote for Kirkbride then Mr Cameron, when you re-install her as candidate? Anger and outrage is simmering and mounting.
BM
You have the right to remain angry but whatever you say will be written down and ignored.
It will not be igmored by the voters!
Julie Kirkbride is the very worst offender in the whole of Parliament. Her family have received massive funding over the past 12 years and in addition she has worked a total scam with her husband Andrew MacKay. It is impossible to comprehend why the mechanics of the British legal system are not in operation with this one. It is equally impossible to comprehend why Cameron should continue to give his support to Kirkbride and MacKay. It will be an act of supreme folly if the scheming and spinning of this obnoxious woman fools the party into allowing her to stand as candidate again. It should be remembered that all the stooges in the spinning group, including the notorious Dent family, are in Kirkbride1s pay in one form or another. The election campaign will descend into chaos and farce if Kirkbride is candidate, and such a high profile campaign with even more scandalous detail emerging, will engulf the campaign nationally. Cameron should have the courage and integrity to publicly denounce Kirkbride now. He knows at least some of the more obscure facts about this woman and must surely at least suspect that there could be far worse to come. Kirkbride should be thrown out of the party amd prosecuted. The whole Kirkbride affair is an outrage and universally seen as such.
Get real, Kelly is wishy-washy, leaving ways round everything for these corrupt MPs to exploit. Kirkbride has got away with it.
Expand “it”
read all the facts, the reports in the daily mail, the daily telegraph, blogs, reports. information known to investigators, constituents, local groups, pubs, the bitches own comments, personal knowledge and factual info from individuals, politicians including tories in bromsgrove, former tory councillors, family members, drunken stooges, parliamentary documents, electoral registers and on and on and on. it is obvious what `it` is ans `it` will continue to expand as long as this woman is allowed to pollute the tory party, parliament, and politics.
The known facts confirm what `it` is and the facts yet to come will expand `it`.
Itdoes not need expanding. The facts have been reported in detail.
Perhaps she is trying to reduce the unemployment figures.
Silly. She cares about nothing let alone the unemployed.
Guido I love that you keep politicians in check but your solution is probably doomed to failure. A bit like all the writers at high-minded publications like the Economist who apparently know the answers to all the world’s ills but it would be a disaster if they were in charge (one writer there was the first to call for a European Constitution). So it is easy to snipe from the sidelines without a solution that works. Your answers are:
- In politics employ the gracious good like the sort who go into the priesthood i.e. not for the money but as it is a noble cause. I’m not sure priest type figures would be any good as they have enough trouble organising a fete
- Guido also states the free market is best where things operate through incentives rather than evil politicians. Well surely we can argue that the politicians are only operating through incentives too i.e. to line their pockets. What do you think management in the private sector do???? It is the same!!!
- Guido’s argument that there are loads of people who want to be politicians so lets lower the wages. That is such a dumb argument it really doesn’t go far. Having a decent wage for politicians is about having the ability to persuade successful professionals and business people to give it a go. Extending Guido’s argument we could just offer the minimum wage as there are people working for that..
- It is hard to know what Guido’s solution is. If you hate government so much why not move to Somalia??? There is no effective government there…. if everything private industry and capitalism does is great how do you explain the existence of the investment management industry which delivers nothing of value given that most underperform their benchmark….
Don’t get me wrong it is great having Guido around to keep politicians in check but the world according to Guido would most likely be a disaster….
He’s ok as long as he gets the numbers in order!
Is that you Mr Duncan ?
Yes, it’s so trying poor petal.
The Bankers tried the same bullshit, sorry justifications.
Funnily enough no-one believed them either.
If MPs don’t like it they can fuck off.
They earn £64,766 to start with. So if you think there is no-one else who would do their job with their holidays but without the thieving perks and porks of many, many thousands on top of that wage then you are living in a dreamworld.
Perk rhymes with Jerk
Trough rhymes with Off
They are Perking in the trough and they are Jerking us off
It’s also wrong that the corrupt filth in parliament get massive pensions at the taxpayers expense.
There are 646 of the worthless trash. Almost all of them are anonymous thieves who do nothing for the country or their constituents. Most MPs spend their time feeding their pig faces, because lobbyists (agents for PFI criminals, war profiteers, pharma-drug dealers etc.) are picking up the bill. Or they are on free holidays in exchange for keeping their mouths shut about war crimes and the thieving of the national assets.
The death penalty needs to be introduced for MPs. They should be shot and burned like vermin.
Is it not odd that these wives/husbands who are employed as secretaries and being paid around £30 grand per an were unable to keep reasonable contol of their employers expenses chits? What on earth do these secretaries actually DO for their £30 grand per an?
The problem isn’t really about ‘who’ – it is really about ‘what’.