October 26th, 2009

Wonk Watch : IEA’s New Director General Mark Littlewood

Mark Littlewood is the former LibDem head-of-spin who has become the chief wonk at the venerable Institute of Economic Affairs, the directorship of which comes with a (big for wonkland) £100,000 pay package.  There will be organic champagne corks popping in Cowley Street, because as an educational charity the trustees of the IEA insist on staff severing party political links.  Littlewood until now led the Orange Book pressure group Liberal Vision, a classical liberal thorn in the side of social democrats within the LibDems.  Mark will also have to tear up his LibDem party membership card before he starts at the IEA in  December.

mark_littlewoodChain-smoking Littlewood’s CV includes time campaigning at Liberty and co-founding NO2ID.  He is an across the board libertarian on social and economic issues.  The board of the IEA clearly wanted someone who could raise the media profile of the original Westminster think-tank.  With a change of government coming, the call for dusty policy papers read only in academia to be replaced with agenda setting policy ideas became widespread amongst  IEA donors.  The centre-right think-tank sector is more widely enjoying a burst of increased funding and activity as the expectation that their ideas will be sympathetically received in government increases.  The IEA’s revival will make the market for ideas for the next government more exciting than at any time since the early 80s.


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  1. 1
    Balls Deep says:

    Love that Chimp photo – it’s just so right

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      Master Baiter says:

      Putting growth ahead of deficit.
      The German government will not cut the deficit and will not cut public spending until the country as safely emerged from the downturn.
      The new coalition’s central message is that boosting growth, not fixing the burgeoning budget deficit, would be its top priority.

      “It would make no sense to start talking about savings measures in a phase when we want to concentrate on growth stimuli. It would have the opposite effect.”

      Conservitudes, wrong on the recession, wrong on the recovery.

      Hahahaha

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        Down with Brown! says:

        What recovery?

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          Master Baiter says:

          UK GDP debt ratio is lower the Germany.

          Germany is not cutting public spending, it is not targetting debt reduction because to try to do so now would “have the opposite effect.”

          Hahahaha

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          • Road_Hog says:

            Who created this recession, yes your mate Gordon McSnot.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            The recession, which is global, started in America.

            The US banks and car companies are now state controlled.
            Gordon Brown is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, not the United States.

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          • Road_Hog says:

            Started in America? Ha, ha, who are you, Gordon Brown?

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          • resurgemus says:

            UK recession started in 11 Downing Street

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Find a reputable commentator or economist that says it didn’t start in America.

            Hahahaha

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          • resurgemus says:

            Gordon Brown:

            caused the recession

            clueless on recovery

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          • Putin says:

            Picked up last week’s briefing by mistake have we? Germany is not the UK and there are significant differences,of which you have been reminded at length in many,many posts. It also has a firm industrial base to generate economic growth and a record of a strong balance of payments surplus. Sadly the UK has neither.

            Waffling on about debt as a % of GDP has no relevance. Debt is deferred taxation. It is the ability to repay which is the key and our now no longer available debt fulled economic growth will have to be replaced.

            We are in the position of borrowing £25K,earning £10 quid a week and having to borrow more to make the repayments. This does not ‘help’,it stores up a worse shitstorm than would otherwise have engulfed us.
            Future generations will have to pay the price.

            Nothing to be proud of.

            PS: repayments under PFI have been estimated at £245 billion for the taxpayer before the recession. The rate of increase in PFI contracts was 75% between 2004 and 2007.

            That is all money leaving the public sector which could ahve been ‘invested’ elsewhere.

            PPS:UK car companies are state controlled but not by the UK.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Unfortunately Putin did not put in a point.

            Hahahaha

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          • Moley says:

            UK Budget deficit 9%

            German Budget deficit 4.6%.

            Go to Germany and have a look round MB, and see the difference.

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          • Bee Dum Dum says:

            Blimey, this will be a big change for Mark from his time working in Cowley Street. The IEA is a whopping 50 metres from the front door of Lib Dem HQ.

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          Socialists! Socialists!! SOCIALISTS!!! socialists! SOCIALISTS!!!!Socialists! Socialists!! SOCIALISTS!!! socialists! SOCIALISTS!!!!Socialists! Socialists!! SOCIALISTS!!! socialists! SOCIALISTS!!!!Socialists! Socialists!! SOCIALISTS!!! socialists! SOCIALISTS!!!!Socialists! Socialists!! SOCIALISTS!!! socialists! SOCIALISTS!!!!

          SQuaaawwwwKKK SKKWAAAAWWK (peck) KRrraawwkkkk (ruffle)

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      • 11
        resurgemus says:

        Gordon

        wrong on the recession ( longest ever )
        wrong on the recovery ( where is it )

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          Socialism is just wrong. Economic equivalent of Flat Eartherism.

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          • No, economic equivalent of the children’s crusades.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            German recession was much deeper than the UK’s more than 8% drop in GDP in Germany, whaeras the UK’s is less than 6% of GDP.

            Hahahaha

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          • Dick the Prick says:

            Steady on AC1 – the earth is flat innit?

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          • Dick the Prick says:

            MB – £2.2 trillion – missed off the PFI schemes – d’oh!

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Aunty Zit the one trick nag,
            What part of the German coalition is socialist?

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Dig the prig,
            PFI is not that amount.
            It is far smaller.
            Eejut!

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          • Mr Ned says:

            MB, Germany’s economy was very badly hit as they still make things over there. They had a thriving manufacturing sector, unlike the pathetic and whittled down manufacturing sector here that the labour party (of all parties) did NOTHING to protect or help.

            Now the Germans are in recovery, largely lead by their manufacturing sector. All we have to pull us out of recession is funny money in a blatantly corrupt financial sector that has been seen for the failure that Brown made it. From day one of this labour party’s running of our economy (since 1997) Brown has been massively undermining the stability of our financial services industry. Allowing practices that American banks here took global that lead to the banking collapse. It started in LONDON and it has Brown’s fingerprints all over it! He not only allowed, but encouraged the greed and laissez-faire, non-existent oversight that sowed the seeds of the collapse. In fact he relied on it to prop-up his utterly incompetent economic management of the UK economy. All those quarters of consecutive growth, based on utterly INSANE levels of corrupt and unsustainable debt!

            MB you are very very silly.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            It started in America with criminal lending practices to the sub-prime market. That is it.
            Those unsustainable, criminal loans were then repackaged on Wall Street (which is in America) and the subprime elements were injected like a virus into asset backed securities, now known as toxic assets. The toxic assets were then sold to financial institutions all around the world. When the subrime elements collapsed the toxic assets also collapsed and credit (which is trust between institutions) collapsed.
            It started in America.

            Hahahaha

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          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            Mr Ned. I’m confused.

            “manufacturing sector here that the labour party (of all parties) did NOTHING to protect or help.”

            That complaint sounds a bit leftie to me.

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          • RavingMad says:

            all the labour party do is make wooden sticks to beat people with – is that what you mean by manufacturing???

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          • Dick the Prick says:

            Whoops MB – you’re right – only £2.15 trillion. Mae culpa.

            http://www.cps.org.uk/

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Eejut, that’s not PFI.

            Hahaha

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          • Dick the Prick says:

            Neither, by any stretch of your delusional imagination is it anywhere near 6% you innumerate troll.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Dig the prig,
            Calm down!
            The 6% refers to the recession, the reduction in gdp in the uk as opposed to the 8% plus reduction in German gdp.
            Eejut!

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Tin Cunliffe-Arsely, no that is not lefty. By “help” I do not mean in uncompetitive subsidy. I mean as in allowing a competitive infrastructure develop, reducing un-necessary red-tape and bureaucracy and having a tax-structure that encourages innovation, development and exports.

            Manufacturing declined in the UK during the “boom years” and that is NOT down to a lack of British ingenuity or enterprise.
            ————————

            MB, you thick tit!

            Let me explain to you again why you are utterly wrong.

            The sub-prime collapse in the US started a long time AFTER Northern Rock bank had already collapsed here. If anything, the news of the first British bank to face a run and face a defacto “collapse” for over 100 years sent massive shock waves around the global financial centers that weakened confidence in the global sub-prime mortgage market as this was Northern Rock’s prime Market here.

            The run started on the 14th September 2007. Even the Mighty Bear-Stearns did not collapse until March 2008. The main crisis eventually hit it’s peak the weekend of 14th September 2008, a full year after the crisis of Northern Rock. The seeds of which were planted by Gordon Brown in the City of London when he created a financial time-bomb in the form of a tripartite regime that utterly failed to oversee excessive greed, corruption and the inevitable implosion of a ponzi banking bubble.

            It started in Brown’s head.

            So what have the Northern Rock and the American sub-prime mortgage collapse have in common? The two are only linked insofar as the Banking practices that lead to sub-prime mortgages being offered as parts of Collateralized debt obligations and other “magical” derivatives were created and sold internationally from many banks in LONDON.

            This was as much down to Gordon Brown’s inept economic practice in removing oversight from the Bank of England, as much is it was any changes in the law in the USA.

            Canada and Australia have not suffered, as much as we have as they did not participate in allowing their economy to be floated on a bed of nothing but corrupt and unsustainable debt. What else did Canada and Australia have in common? A truly conservative government, unlike the USA and Britain.

            Believe me, there was nothing conservative about America’s Bush administration. IF Bush had been a conservative, then he would not have built the world’s largest bureaucracy and he would not have run up a 9 trillion dollar debt. Bush is not a Conservative. He is a confirmed corporatist and loves binopolies. (Where two “competing” giants control the market as if a monopoly). His policies are far closer to fascism (corporatism) than they are to conservatism.

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          • Dick the Prick says:

            Mr Ned – not that I have no life or anything but I was watching C-Span yesterday and the projected defecit of Obama’s Medicare programme over time (not sure how long and can’t be bothered looking it up) is err.. $37 trillion. Not only that, apparently the mafia have moved away from drugs, pimping & gambling into defrauding medicare as it’s almost risk free and the profits are astounding.

            Ah, the sweet smell of socialism. God alone knows how much the NHS is being ripped off but I bet it’s somewhere about 10% or £9bn per year – kkkkeeerrrrccchhhiinngg!!

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Warning, Mr Ned is a dimwitted ill informed right wing dinosaur.

            The credit crunch, that is the collapse in confidence or trust between financial institutions began in August 2007. It began before the run on Northern Rock. It began because the toxic plume emanating from the collapse of asset backed securities. The asset backed securities, now known as toxic assets exploded because the sub-prime element which had been injected in to the security in packaging them stopped paying or defaulted. The sub-prime loans defaulted because they were unsustainable and had been generated through various massive criminal acts carried out in the US.

            Millions of US sub-prime and near prime loans have defaulted. Very few UK loans of any type or grade have defaulted.

            It started in America.

            Follow the money.

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          • Mr Ned says:

            In addition to the above, Jim Cramer went ballistic on air in the August of 2007 screaming for the fed to open a window on interest rates. It was a famous public melt-down, look it up on youtube, it was hillarious. Jim Cramer was later owned and humiliated on the daily show with John Stewart when Stewart debated the relative expertise of the financial news, as Cramer noted that Bear Stearns was not going to fail only a few days before it actually did. Note the time-line.

            August 2007, Cramer goes nuts about sub-prime. The Sub Prime mortgage was still growing, well, exploding actually.

            September 2007, Northern Rock collapses and needs to be rescued due to the sub-prime market imploding here.

            March 2008 Cramer states that Bear Stearns is safe, then a few days later it collapsed.

            Started in America? BULLSHIT!

            BTW, after seeing that Cramer outburst in August 2007, I cancelled going through with a remortgage on my home, and it was the best decision I made that year! That saved me from being deep in negative equity today.

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          • resurgemus says:

            It started in America in April 2008

            Gordon was on a state trip to the USA at the time.

            President Beach is avoiding Gordo as a result;

            Bush told him Brown started the US recession and all the other leaders say he stops a recovery if you talk to him.

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Dick the Prick, I agree, except, that is not strictly speaking socialism. If it were, then the Government would control the supply of everything and the drugs bill would be dirt cheap, but there would only be one pill for any condition and it probably would not work.

            What we are seeing in the US and over here is tax-payers being ripped off by the government to pay excessive drugs and medical costs to their buddies private corporations.

            Often these are little more than private cartels and this is a system known as corporatism. There is not any free and open competition. Deals between a few dominant market players are conducted in secret to charge exorbitant sums to the tax-payer and kick-backs are commonplace.

            Another word for corporatism (according to Mussolini) is fascism.

            What we are witnessing today is the global corporations and the state merging to take control of every aspect of our lives and to charge us a fortune in tax for it.

            I mean, why should private companies compete for customers, when they can get a government to fork out for their products and services on our behalf, charging way over the odds and then stick us with the bill in the form of tax increases?

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        • 98
          Benjamin Linus says:

          Gordon Brown weak on the causes of recession
          weak on the solution to recessions

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      • 17
        resurgemus says:

        So you support tax cuts in Germany but tax rises in the UK ?

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          Master Baiter says:

          What about this German government coalistion proposes cutting taxes, increasing the deficit and not cutting public spending?

          Hahahaha

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          • Mr Ned says:

            MB, They can afford to increase the deficit as their manufacturing sector generates a large amount of revenue from their exports, YOU FUCKWIT!

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          • Bearing a massive grudge says:

            MB=very silly

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Therefore it’s a good idea to maintain public spending and increase the deficit because to do otherwise would have worse consequences.

            German debt gdp ratio is much higher than the UK’s and as for their public sector pensions, well!

            Hahahaha

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          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            OK Baiter. I’ll bite.

            If you did all that, and the consequences are ok, where does the actual money come from to plug the hole in a few years time?

            You’ve said “deflate” in the past to rip-off any creditors you have, but who’d ever lend you money in the future? Do you do that to your mates? Buy me a pint today and I’ll repay you with a half in a week’s time?

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Tinpot,
            It doesn’t need justification. It’s just a statement of fact, which is that the German coalition is proposing to increase the deficit, maintain public spending and release money in to the economy by cutting taxes. they propose this becasue they believe that it is the least costly course to follow. Maintain public spending, increase the deficit and go for growth.

            Look at the howling and gnashing of teeth among the dimwitted Conservitude fellow travellers.
            The Conservitudes are painting themselves in to a corner.
            Their policy of cut now to reduce the deficit would undermine any chance of a recovery. It would cost more and lead to a greater deficit.

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          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            you didnt answer the main question.

            Who pays? Who gets stiffed?

            You, as a Labour party spokesboy, Don’t see any need to justify any concerns about where the money is supposed to come from?

            Its a bit like if you’ve pissed money from 10 credit cards and are in the shit. You are applying for 10 more.

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Irrespective of who pays the Germans have concluded that whoever pays would pay more if stimuli were stopped now and public spending was cut. It would make the recession worse and lead to more public borrowing and a greater deficit.

            The Germans have concluded that stimulating growth is cheaper for the people who pay.

            Got it?

            Unfortunately some people just don’t ‘get it’.

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          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            You hint at who pays: The taxpayer. Sometime in the future.
            You’re just guessing that its better to pay later.

            10 more credit cards please.

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        Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

        Germany didn’t print money. Like your boss did.

        Which is a tax on anyone who owns sterling.

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          Master Baiter says:

          Correct the German government has not printed money.
          The ECB European Central Bank has carried out quantitative easing (‘printed money’), underwritten toxic assets, propped up banks and all the rest.

          Ok?
          Feel better?

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          • Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

            No.

            It would be personally useful for me if the ECB had buggered up the Euro too. They haven’t, because they haven’t tried to over-use Gordon’s innefective -and in the long run unsatisfying- tool for stimulation.

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      • 34
        Mises' Geezers says:

        Concrete steps were/are being taken to end Socialism right now.This is the truth,believe it or not.Laissez Faire Capitalism will inherit the Earth forever.Your whole political belief system will be completely smashed.I hope all you Socialists live a long,long time to enjoy it.

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        • 136
          Old Nick Heavenly says:

          MB, I know that you are not very bright, so you will not understand!

          The ONLY reason that Germany has a deficit problem is because of the cost of REUNIFICATION!

          Without that their economy would have absorbed the problems!

          But, of course, your commie buddies ruined East Germany!

          The United Condom is the NEW EAST GERMANY!

          You have it all, the Stasi, total loss of freedom of speech and total, utter and complete financial incompetance from your hero, Gordon, the laughing stock of European politics!

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          • Old Nick Heavenly says:

            Master Baiter, are you the alter ego of Ambrose Pilchard Evans of the DT?

            He writes bigger and bigger bullshit every week as well.

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          • resurgemus says:

            so like Belgium then

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          • Old Nick Heavenly says:

            Resurgemus, is this a dig at me or MB?

            Do you mean Belgium or Brussels?

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          • resurgemus says:

            Nick

            a friendly wind-up from those of us stuck under Gordon Honecker!

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          • Old Nick Heavenly says:

            Yo Resergemus,

            maybe your General de Gaulle will manifest himself.

            But it ain’t Dive or Griffin, is it!

            Do not hide in those woods for too long.

            Yours from Hippy Heaven, hiding in the woods of the wilds of the Ardennes.

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      • 50
        It's a trap! says:

        Go and live in Germany then, you Ginga Git.

        Fresh faced freckled zitty post grad, with no tax paying credentials behind you at all.

        Justa lovely job in Gummint leaching off the tax-payers to repeat zealot idealogue fantasies about how wonderful Brown and Co. truly are.

        Sorry little boy, but the game is well and truly up. Trying to convert folks on here, even occasional readers is not going to work. We are all better informed in the “Farm”.

        Orwell was quite correct, he just never factored in the Internet.

        You lot must be spewing that you can’t control us anymore!!

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          Master Baiter says:

          It’s a pony and trap,
          What is objectionable about the German coalition’s proposal to cut taxes?
          Also please remember, without decorum there can be no discourse.
          Behave naughty old fruit cake!

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          • Road_Hog says:

            The last laugh will be in May next year, when Labour are finished as a party.

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          • Putin says:

            Dimwit -please read my somewhat earlier post ; the strategy of burying your head in the sand and pretending you have solved a problem (QE plus spend,spend spend) is a false dawn.

            Deferring the problem until something better turns up is the easy way out. Dealing with the issue requires a plan and some courage,both lacking in our government

            When the something better does not turn up,what will happen then?

            PS: To quote your glorious leader ‘He said the global recession was likely to cause “recession in America, France, Italy, Germany, Japan and – because no country can insulate itself from it – Britain too’

            It did not start in America

            PPS What’s the plan for dealing with the next credit binge and asset bubble?

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        Bearing a massive grudge says:

        Gordy fucked up badly as can be seen; Osbourne might fuck up just as badly, we will wait and see

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        Sir William Waad says:

        The Germans were careful with their public finances during the boom years and have for a very long time favoured conservative fiscal and financial policies. They have a truly independent and competent central bank. In Germany, such policies win votes. Germany can afford to spend their way out of recession. We can’t.

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      • 107
        McGroom says:

        Master Baiter – you idiot

        The European Central Bank has no agreed mechanism to print money via Qunatitative Easing.

        Therefore, countries like Germany have to issue bonds and increase their deficit to find the money to prop up their failing banks and industry.

        Don’t dress this up as boosting growth over not issuing debt as they have no other policy alternative.

        The Euro has severely hamstrung their efforts to extract themselves from this mess and they are getting dragged down by the weaker Euro economies.

        Eurozone public debt per capita is now US$30k , whereas UK is now US$22k.

        Champagne Socialists, wrong on recession meaning there will be no recovery

        … and it isn’t funny

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        • 110
          • Putin says:

            Hardly evidence – just a suggestion that might be ahppening.Do try harder

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          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Since when does a journalist’s opinion constitute “evidence”? Bator passing off opinion as fact to induce his ready prepared “conclusion”.

            I don’t know why anyone bothers with this ginger clown.

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          • McGroom says:

            Typical Master Baiter – obscure the lie with a false “truth”

            The post says “In his post, Hugh wonders if the above might be indicative of the ECB effectively conducting expansionary fiscal policy — along the lines of quantitative easing — by buying a large proportion of this newly created debt in its long-term financing operations”

            The ECB has money in it’s long-term financing operations, BUT IT IS NOT PRINTING MONEY.

            It pains me to agree with you, that the Tories have no choice but to continue borrowing just like Brown and Darling. Hopefully the difference will be that the Tories will target helping the consumer and small companies instead of New Labour just helping the big business friends of Mandelson

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          • Master Baiter says:

            McGroom,
            The fact is that they are buying their own paper, that’s printing it, even if they haven’t been ‘allowed’ to do it. Plus as with all other ‘central’ banks QE is but a small part of the transfer of liabilites from the ‘private’ to the ‘public’.

            At least unlike most of the rightwing dimwits that infest this site, McGroom has some awareness of the cataclysm that is enveloping the world as a result of this crisis, which started in America and is global.

            The Conservitudes with their simpletonian supermarket basket case economic policies are a joke.
            No doubt they will confer on the way forward with their neo nazi Latvian partners at the European Parliament.

            Hahahaha

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      • 117
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        Do the Germans have one in five employed in the public sector (one in four in Scotland) I wonder?

        Are they doling out more in social “benefits” than they are receiving in tax receipts?

        Do they have a bunch of incompetent, unelected chumps in government?

        Answers on a post card…. oh bugger, there’s a strike on, you can’t.

        There’s a policy for you: rather than encourage income, sell off the country’s assets and raid the assets of the people. Bet the Germans ain’t doing that.

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      • 140
        The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

        Mr Baiter
        Do you get paid for this?
        If its just a hobby
        WHY??????
        There was an article in the Daily Mail about some chap that built an oil rig from match sticks, maybe you could link up?

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      • 162
        Der Koalitionsvertag says:

        They have the reserves to afford it. Plus large tax cuts for the middle class family. Then, says Schäubele, the cutting will begin and, he says, it will be radical.

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      • 180

        According to Der Spiegel the German governing coalition has been cobbled together on the basis that there will be tax cuts but, somehow or other, those cuts will be “off balance sheet” so that they do not add to the deficit.

        There is going to be the most almightly bubble bursting – yet again – sooner or later.

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    • 6
      Furious Capitalist says:

      How come we can’t all get on the Quango Gravy train. I can tell the government for every windmill they build they need a back up power station to fill the gap when the wind drops. Very expensive way to produce energy. You wont here that in the corridors of power. Can I have some money to tell you how badly you have fuc–d our economy. Or will we have to wait until the bus stops.

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      • 14
        Furious Capitalist says:

        Ah sorry forgot to add that CO2 pumping to a storage site is a Net producer of CO2, by the time you take in the cost of pumping seperation and manufacture of Pipeline and compressor stations. Yes compressor stations that need lots of energy to move Gas. Can I have some money now. You can take it off a few of the Proffesors who have lied to you about the real cost of CCS.
        Ah yes lets plug the 500 billion gap in budgets needed by the private energy companies to fulfill their future infrastructure needs by putting it on the business bill and man in the street. Why don’t you lot just go and F–k o-f back to your narrow minded interests before you bankrupt the businesses that pay your wages. Ah sorry you already have.

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      I moderated the session at the Libertarian Alliance Conference yesterday (Sunday) at which Mark Littlewood spoke alongside a couple of other guys, regarding “Prospects for a Classical liberal agenda”.

      He will be a good IEA director, I hope. I think his heart’s in the right place. But the attractions of big powerful shiny statist levers , on machines called “departments”, are compelling to all. I hope for all of us that he can continue to resist them.

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      • 27
        Mr Ned says:

        Sadly these think tanks will be an utter waste of money, as if they push policy to the UK Parliament, that will merely be a place for apartiks to rubber-stamp EU diktats from when the treaty after the Lisbon Treaty is ratified. That will be ratified by the Council of Ministers, as the Lisbon Treaty makes all future amendments to how the EU is governed self-amending. we could have a new treaty every 6 – 12 months that creates even LARGER changes in all our constitutional arrangements and there is nothing that we would be able to do about it!

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      • 79
        no longer anonymous says:

        I believe he also harbours pro-EU views.

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      Anonymous says:

      Oh, I thought it was David Miniblair.

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  2. 2
    backwoodsman says:

    Check front page of guardian, ref plods’ nefarious activities. Having the founder of no2id about the place seems like a good idea to me !

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    Inglorious Basterd says:

    I think I would like to be a member of a think tank. Do you think I’ll make it as a mamber and if you think I can make it then you can join me in my think tank at least I think you can.

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      Great Granddad says:

      You can have your wish provided you have no knowledge whatever of what your chosen think tank is expected to be thinking about.

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      • 12
        Inglorious Basterd says:

        I’ll have to go away and think of a name for my think tank. It might take some time I think.

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      • 38
        Herr General says:

        and mine is Panzer V ‘Panther’, superior in every way

        Apart from mechanical reliability perhaps, nein?

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        • 49
          Nick says:

          Nein! I think you are confusing my chosen vehicle with the Tiger and King Tiger, the Panther was of course literally the Porsche of tanks.

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          • Nick says:

            Forgot to say and unlike the ZaNuLiebor bandwagon my wheels will not come off!

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          • Sir William Waad says:

            The Soviet T-34 was superior because it was designed be mass-produced.

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          • Fancy a battle?

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          • Herr General says:

            More lost at Kursk to breakdown than enemy action. Subsequent models improved but as with most German supertanks always a bit of a worry reliability wise.

            Ferdinand Porsche’s panzer designs tended to be rather impractical e.g. his version of the Tiger I which became the lumbering Elefant tank destroyer, and the early turret on the Tiger II which featured a shell trap, and thinly armoured commander’s cupola built on one side.

            You’d be better off sticking with a Mark IV really.

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          • Nick says:

            In that case sir, I bow to your superior technical knowlege and align myself with the Mark IV!

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  4. 5
    Great Granddad says:

    Grade A welders, grade A economists, grade A bankers, have not been in demand for a very long time. Having anybody who has any worthwhile background in the business of an organisation at chief wonk level, has become infra dig. We don’t want people who stick to their last. We want people who don’t have a bloody last to stick to.

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    • 23
      Inglorious Basterd says:

      Grade A welders are required to lay an oil pipeline up The Mall, good rates of pay, British jobs for British workers so British welders fluent in Arabic, Polish or Russian can apply

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      • 29
        Great Granddad says:

        In that case we’ll have oil all over the mall. Grade A doesn’t translate very well from the Arabic.

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        • 33
          Inglorious Basterd says:

          I’ve just applied for an offshore licence to drill for oil outside the Bank of England, black gold, texas tea. Roustabouts urgently required.

          (Don’t tell anyone but it’s really a guise to rob the bank if there’s any money left)

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          • Gordon ( I AM a moron ) Brhoon says:

            Don’t expect to find any on the Nation’s Gold Reserves there.

            I sold them at the bottom of the market.

            Wrong on the Reserves, wrong on the Recession.

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  5. 7
    Down with Brown! says:

    It’s not Guido’s most interesting scoop to say the least: some bloke who used the hang out with Charlie Kennedy and write for the Guardian, but has become more libertarian since being sacking by the Lib Dems taking over management of free-market think tank.

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    • 10

      Are you new here? We do tittle-tattle and Westminster gossip on a good day. Like it says at the top on the masthead.

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      • 18
        Down with Brown! says:

        No, on a good day you break the careers of total twats like McBride. This is a story of very limited interest to anyone outside the Westminster village.

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        • 24
          Memory Man says:

          I think you mean to say that only some of Guido’s posts interest you. Guido is entirely free to post what mix of stories interest him.

          You may or may not see all the connections between tittle-tattle and major scoops.

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          • Down with Brown! says:

            Of course it’s Guido’s blog and he can post what he wants and delete whatever comments wants.

            If Mark Littlewood can publicise more widely classical economic liberal ideas and take on the Keynesian consensus of the media class, then the best of luck with him. But he strikes me as just another odious opportunist twisting and turning to further his own career.

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        • 32
          Great Granddad says:

          Wonks heading quangos can do much much more damage than McBride ever could.

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        • 95
          Sir William Waad says:

          In the long run it could be more important. McBride was only ever a kind of performing dog who would bark and snarl, or roll over on his master’s instruction. We need more people with brains, even if we have to approach them nervously with pictures of chimps in hats.

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      • 19
        Road_Hog says:

        You’re a little tetchy of late Guido, responding to far too many jibes.

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        • 25
          Inglorious Basterd says:

          He needs to put the clocks back an hour every single night and he can live forever.

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        • 160
          Old Nick Heavenly says:

          Tetchy!

          If he is not at it 7 days a week then lots of people complain!

          Is is always, and as always I speak from personal experience, what happens when one stong man has a lot of people sitting upon his shoulders!

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      • 56
        Mr Ned says:

        Even from where I am in the sticks, I can see the signals being sent by these appointments. It all points to a change in emphasis in where policy decision making is going. Sadly, President Klaus of the Czech Republic is sure to sign and ultimately give the final ratification of the Lisbon Reform Treaty.

        So, now that New-Labour have almost completed ruining and then routing all important and life-changing decisions via an unelected socialist dictatorship in Brussels, the think-tanks advising the British government will be allowed to become free-thinkers once more. Now that whatever they think is irrelevant to the governance of this country, sorry, ‘soon-to-be collection of pan national regions ruled from regional capitals located in former foreign nations’. (Transmanche will be a region of the south of England and Northern France run from a regional capital in France), they can think what the bloody hell they like (so long as it is not anti-European)

        I don’t know what to think about all this. Besides the natural frustration and pain in witnessing my country being destroyed, broken up, and nuetered before my eyes, I am at a loss at how to deal with this, and to know what to do next.

        Sure, the Lisbon reform treaty provides a formal, legal mechanism to withdraw from the EU, but as I understand it, it is a formal process which will take two years, during which time the UK will have NO voting rights at all leading to all the other member states (or former states, and regions) changing the laws, rules, regulations of our country leading to a national butt-fucking of monumental, elephantine proportions, through sheer spite and as a warning to any other former independent state that would try likewise.

        We could rebuild after this, but we would be rebuilding from a national state that would more resemble today’s Afghanistan, than the UK as we know it now.

        Have we reached the point where I throw my moral compass away, start sipping the EU kool-aid and state that if you can’t beat them, join them and try to get a well-paid job aboard the gravy train? Do I find my place in the trough and say fuck-you suckers to the rest of you?

        I am most perplexed, aggrieved and unsure of what would be for the best, for my family. Which would be the lesser evil? War or compliance? Could I even live with myself if I complied with the EU? I am certain that I oppose war or any form of violent resistance, but I am vehemently opposed to the proposed EU dictatorship too and peaceful resistance appears to have not even begun.

        What do others think? reluctant compliance? Mass civil disobedience? or would you prefer and are you ready for a civil war?

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        • 64

          or would you prefer and are you ready for a civil war?

          I don’t see any other future. The political class figure they’d head one off by diluting national identity with propagandist education and mass immigration, but the silly fuckers forgot the immigrants would be wanting to keep their own identity too. We’re jammed in to a tiny island with an economicly pisspoor future, no democratic control – none – and increasingly overloaded resources and infrastructure.

          I really don’t see a happy ending. However, as you say, compliance *is* an option. Buying into the whole EUSSR project. Compliance *might* be best, for the greater good, for ourselves and our families. But what a price. No freedom. Ever.

          How the fuckity fuck did we let it get to this?

          Once again I’m forced to look back a generation or two, and blame them. Post-war we signed up for this shit – but the entire country was in shock. Post traumatic stress disorder stunned the British people into surrender. We won the war, lost the peace.

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          • That's Democracy says:

            One the whole, a fairly accurate peace. Your implication that the days of political parties appealling to specific areas/demographies, as they once purported to do so, is correct. Now, the name of the game is appeasing those around you who have power so that they will ensure your return. Even a cursory glance at Labour will reveal the extent to which those near the base of power are, in fact, debased, unethical, cunning and shifty. There is no real talent there at all because, I suspect, the talented, at least many of them, have ethics.

            That there is no democracy in Britain is beyond debate now: it is axiomatic. Yet the British people still cannot grasp that landed office, that monarchy, is completely incompatible with democracy. Until then, no dice. The pain will only get worse.

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  6. 28
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    The IEA’s revival will make the market for ideas for the next government more exciting than at any time since the early 80s.

    I think that deserves much more depth

    Otherwise it is just empty spin

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  7. 31
    Guido's Speedos says:

    ‘Severing Party Political links’? – What a Joke.

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  8. 35
    Popeye says:

    HA! HA!

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  9. 39
    Gonk says:

    Small government— tick
    Free market———- tick
    Smoker—————- tick
    Drinker—————- ?
    Advocate of lying dictatorial government ?

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  10. 42

    100K for coming up with ideas and bullshitting about them?

    I am in the wrong game…

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  11. 43
    Don't Care Bear says:

    I’ll try again, Guido.

    How will anything this gonk says or does affect my life?

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  12. 44
    LibDemMember says:

    He wont be missed.

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  13. 47
    SO17 says:

    My think tank turned into a drink tank and is now a thunk tank.

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  14. 52
    SO17 says:

    ‘Wank Tank’ definition,
    Teenage boy’s bedroom.

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  15. 57
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Speaking of libdems getting promoted way above their station, shouldn’t Mark Oaten be in line for the EU Presidents job? Think of how much sh*t will pass those lips and you’ll not find anyone better qualified.

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  16. 58

    A sub-ed writes:

    “The IEA’s revival will make the market for ideas for the next government more exciting than at any time since the early 80s.”

    A glowing firebox red final sentence in italics implies an earthshaker of a conclusion, an aspect that appears somewhat lacking from this one.

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    • 112

      FFS Tony, it is Monday. Are you bored with porno sites already?

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      • 179
        Lerxst says:

        Oh come on Guido. It’s a fair comment.

        I’ve a soft spot for the IEA and spent many a happy hour there in the past. But it is an irrelevance now and has been for years.

        It used to have the likes of Seldon, Harris, Hayek, etc, but where are the thinkers now? It’s certainly not going to become rejuvenated just because they’ve appointed some LibDem reject.

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      • 194

        A man bored of porn is bored of life, as Dr Johnson said privately to his maid.

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  17. 60
    Down with Brown! says:

    VAT to go back up again on 31st December.

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  18. 61
    Daisy Chainsaw says:

    “The IEA’s revival will make the market for ideas for the next government more exciting than at any time since the early 80s.”

    Nah Guido, the New Con Tories are just Blairites in better suits.

    Big Taxes & Big Government are assured under both main parties I am afraid.

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  19. 63
    SO17 says:

    I think that lass, Showmee Yerluvelybatty from Liberty is ok and if this dude co founded NO2ID then that is cool as well,
    but £100,000 for fucks sake.
    He had better be good at scoring penalties.

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  20. 67
    aswinsterstale says:

    Master Baiter you are a fool.
    Germany may have less GDP ratio than the UK, based on browns figures, but unlike Germany browns figures have a shed load of debt completely missing, not even on Britains balance sheet.
    If you were true, why is the pound crashing and external investment in this country at an all time low.
    Because no-one, other than you believes brown. The unfortunate is this is that there will be elements that you are right, however, neither you or I, or anyone else knows, not until someone else comes in and opens up the can of worms.
    You and nulabour will never do that, by the time we all learn the truth about Britain’s balance sheet, they will all be gone, with cashed cheques and book deals done, and I suspect you will be with them

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      • 89
        Master Baiter says:

        The German public sector pension liabilities are far greater as a % of gdp than the UK’s.

        The long and short of it is that the Conservitudes plan to stop stimuli in the middle of a downturn. The German coalition government believes in maintaining stimuli ahead of cutting government debt.

        Conservitudes, wrong on the recession, wrong on the recovery.

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        • 91
          resurgemus says:

          what recovery ?

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        • 94
          Anonymous says:

          You should just be quiet you silly little man.

          The electorate view McBrown as a ghastly, creepy, weirdo and want him out.

          Nothing you say has any consequence, you do know that?

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          • Master Baiter says:

            Actually the public are terrified for the future, blame the City for the crisis and don’t trust the Conservitudes much.
            The Conservitudes core support is a rag bag of ill informed dimwitted bigots. The conservitudes are terrified of being outflanked on the right by the untied nincumpoops party and so have to pander ever more to the little englander bigots.
            People are seeing more clearerly that Conservitudes policies would make things far worse for the country and would feed and help only the Conservitudes’ masters in the City.

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          • “The electorate view McBrown as a ghastly, creepy, weirdo and want him out.”

            Probably how Guido feels about The Baiter.

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          • resurgemus says:

            The B&P elected on Brown’s watch

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          • Inspector Cyril Blake says:

            Master Baiter said: “Actually the public are terrified for the future, blame the City for the crisis and don’t trust the Conservitudes much. The Conservitudes core support is a rag bag of ill informed dimwitted bigots.”

            Actually the public blame Gormless McBroon as well as the City and the Yanks, but the public can’t do anything about the City or the Yanks, but we can do something about Gormless (i.e. kick his fat useless one-eyed posterior back to Jockoghillieland where it came from!) You’re right that the public don’t trust Call Me Dave and his band of toffs very much, but they trust Gormless and Nu-Liebore a lot less (well not at all in point of fact) and regardless of the issue of trust, a Tory victory at the next election is guaranteed, and you know it.

            I’ve voted Labour for twenty years, but never again, not after this shambles; that’s what happened to Labour’s core support, regardless of your name-calling about Tory voters, and I’m not the only one. I wish that I’d had the sense not to vote Labour in ’97. I’ve never voted Tory but I’d vote for anyone, absolutely anyone, rather than this fvcking disgrace of a Liebore “government.” (yeah I know everyone, I hang my head in shame, I soon learned the error of my ways.)

            I don’t know where you get your news from, MB, but it’s not the same planet as the rest of us, mate.

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        • 145
          Putin says:

          True but Germany has a larger population and a better pension provision than us. It is not a like for like comparison, dullard.

          How do you know what the conservatives are planning? Ah, I see you believe what the newspapers say…

          PS as we are still in recession and no recovery has yet appeared as promised, who is managing those please?

          Place the blane where it is due.

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        • 165
          Der Koalitionsvertag says:

          Pension age in Germany already raised to 67 to deal with that.

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  21. 77
    Mastur Bator says:

    Wonk wonk – plop plop

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  22. 78
    They're all at it says:

    Guido – any news on the “wife swap” MPs? Surely there’s another opportunity to remind the troughing little shits how they just “don’t get it”…?

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  23. 84
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Austin Mitchell on DP saying MP’s should be paid more

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  24. 90
    Sir William Waad says:

    He sounds a thoroughly good egg, apart from smoking chains. We need to reverse New Labour’s totalitarian changes, such as:

    Imprisonment without trial;

    Abolition of the right to silence;

    Abolition of the right to jury trial;

    Sweeping powers to ban peaceful demonstrations;

    Attempts to conduct inquests in secrecy, excluding even the bereaved;

    Cameras everywhere;

    Huge databases of everything;

    ID cards;

    The police being licensed to kill;

    An obsession with snooping and control.

    Remember, Mark, people need governments, but not as much as governments need people.

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  25. 103
    NewsLion says:

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

    http://newslion.blogspot.com/

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  26. 106
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Wonder if he’ll have any better ideas about improving broadband Britain than liebours “encouragement”:
    http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2009/10/26/new-tax-on-uk-wireless-broadband-networks-raises-concern.html

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  27. 113
    Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

    I’ve got a question for Damian Mc…erm Master Baiter.

    Is Germany currently spending 4 Euros for every 3 Euros it collects in tax?

    If not, why not, ‘cos Gordon thinks it’s a good idea….

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  28. 116
    Anonymous says:

    Though the IEA put out a broad remit for the position they board only wanted one thing – a media guy. I predict that the IEA will no longer exisit in 2 years time. Mark can not manage budgets, deal with ‘change management’ (or firing people) or handle the cultural change that is needed for the IEA to compete with the likes of the TPA or Liberty. In my opinion, they needed a businessman with strong contacts across media, academics, and politics.

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    • 147
      Anonymous says:

      The IEA should not try to compete with the TPA or Liberty. It is not a campaigning organisation but rather a high-level think tank with a long-term outlook, as shown by its recent books on the financial crisis. And of course it will still be around in two years’ time. Mark is a very capable organiser and a higher media profile should help fundraising.

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      • 182
        Anonymous says:

        I think that there are fundamental institutional issues that need to be dealt with at the IEA that does beyond just having a higher media profile. Mark is not equipped to handle these issues because he just doesn’t have the experience to deal with them.

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      • 186
        Anonymous says:

        The IEA has to compete for funding and attention in a changed ecosystem where it is now challenged by vigorous young growths like the TPA whether it likes it or not. However high-level its pronouncements, if it wants a long-term to plan for, it needs to rediscover the intellectual ambition, the focus and the freshness and energy that these campaigning groups possess, and it once had. That means real change, not just a better class of press release. Did the IEA see the need for change only to choke at the last minute, and hire a media specialist, hoping the rest would take care of itself? It won’t.

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  29. 120
    Not long till labour gone says:

    Still no mention of the Andrew Neather story regarding labours secret immigration policy on here or the Beeb. Why is it being covered up/looked over?

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  30. 123
    aswinsterstale says:

    Master Baiter, no-one says Germany has their own share of problems, and no-one says they will have their own solutions, time will tell whether their own particular solutions will work and are relevant to the beliefs and ethos of the German electorate.
    They also have better prospects because they have a more balanced product and were not seduced by a city based economy that has historically been based on getting rich today and fuck tomorrow.
    The point is they don’t lie about the extent of their problems or the risks over their answers to them.
    The lies from brown are about just being re-elected, and have nothing to do with anything else. We know, the city know, overseas investors know, everyone knows, I suspect you do as well, only you won’t admit it

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    • 142
      Anonymous says:

      That’s very decent of you to talk to him like an adult awinterstale, the spotty little jerk off.

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  31. 124
    Anonymous says:

    good news all round – he’s a perfect fit and be great to get him off libdems back.

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  32. 130
    Hooray for the Bankers!!! says:

    excitiing market ideas like telling the Piggy Bankers and wastrels in the City to fuck off and take their incompetence and thieving shamelss Bonus piggery elsewhere

    Don’t think Guido’s quite onboard with the Osborn/Cameron Party Line about the greedy thieves in the City yet

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  33. 134
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    “Have sex with my old footwear”
    Well done to Mark
    I hope that you give DP a job
    Even if its just polishing the company Lexus

    Beast

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  34. 143
    Moley says:

    MPs told us that they employed members of their families because it was convenient, ensured confidentiality,. and they worked long hours for little money, thus saving the tax payer money.

    Faced with the proposition that Kelly will ban the employment of relatives, the talk at Westminster is that they will all employ each others relatives to get round the ban.

    All the supposed advantages go, except for the one that was not mentioned; ripping off the tax payer to the maximum advantage of the MP and his or her family.

    Not only are our MPs thieving scum; they are extremely stupid as well. They have once again exposed their greed for what it is.

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  35. 148
    Daisy Chainsaw says:

    Just heard Marxist Millionaire Milipede on Pravda WATO cheerleading for the war criminal Blair to be President of Europe.

    And remember folks, if you want a vote on Lisbon or on the EUSSR Project you are a racist little xenophobe who does not want to fight terrorism or global warning.

    Inspite of the massive immigration into the UK allowed by Labour & the Tories who tried to dilute the electorate the people are still against a Federal European Superstate – that is why they will never give us the vote.

    If we the British people want out we will have to fight our way out – against our own Government & opposition parties & against the EU Rapid Response “Army”.

    And folks – we have beaten European totalitarianism before & we can beat it again – & afterwards we can hang Milipede, Cameron & all the other EU fifth column traitors.

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    • 176
      Anonymous says:

      As long as they don’t bring back conscription for Fuhrer Blairs march on Moscow it could be entertaining.

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  36. 155
    Craigoh says:

    Not amused at being censored, Mr Fawkes.

    Can’t see why. Please explain.

    So much for your free speech / libertarian credentials.

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  37. 158
    Pensioner Power says:

    Bollocks to the Royal Mail – two old dears in an Sierra estate have just delivered my Amazon – nothing beats a beat of capitalist activity

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  38. 172
    Down with Brown! says:

    Twenty years on from defeating Communism in Czecholoslovakia, Czech President Václav Klaus looks set to defeat President Blair, the European Union and Lisbon Treaty.

    “In a submission to the Czech Constitutional Court, which will decide tomorrow whether the treaty is compatible with the country’s constitution, Mr Klaus has suggested that it should be subject to a referendum. The President, who is the only head of state yet to sign the treaty, attacked the EU notion of “shared sovereignty” as a contradiction that effectively means a loss of national control.” http://www.torybear.com/2009/10/cheers-klaus.html

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    • 187
      Susie says:

      OMG! I’m speechless so here’s what a comment says:

      “Fingers, toes, legs & arms crossed – oh, pretty please, hope etc. I think if he does hold out we should all chip in for a party for the Czechs for being lovely, lovely people. Never in the course of federal history has so much beer been owed by so many to such fantastic people.’

      Klaus is using the “sovereignty is irreducible” argument (any sovereignty which signs its sovereignty away, de facto ceases to have the authority to do such a thing, therefore whatever it’s signed is null and void). Ha ha ha Blair.

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  39. 188
    Eric the Purple says:

    You know what ‘little Wood’ means in the gay community. Sums him up. The IEA paying him this dosh shows they have far more money than sense. Have they forgotten why it was he left the Lib Dems in shame?

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  40. 190
    UK DebtSlave says:

    WHY IS GUIDO SILENT ON TODAY’S GUARDIAN ARTICLE REGARDING POLICE SURVEILLANCE OF PEACEFUL PROTERTORS?

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  41. 191
    UK DebtSlave says:

    PROTESTORS (butterfingers)

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  42. 192
    aswinsterstale says:

    I don’t understand this concept the Czechs are going to do us a favour. The Lisbon treaty is a done deal.
    The tories never gave us a vote when it was their turn, it was the tories who opened up our borders which has bought up this can of worms.
    Why is it going to be any different, are the Czechs going to give us democracy and the b*p give us change.
    I cannot understand the logic, what the difference from being stitched by an elected britisher or an unelected foreigner in brussels.
    While we having been waxing lyrical about the eu, our own bucket of piss called westminster has been taking us to the cleaners.
    How about we dont give a fuck who is in power over us as long as we make them give us something out of it

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  43. 193
    aswinsterstale says:

    By the way, whats all this critic of Guido, smells like nulabour to me

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  44. 195
    Anonymous says:

    Shame to see the venerable IEA fall to a notorious EU fanatic like Littlewood. Despite his treason, Littlwood is a genuine libertarian (yes i know you can’t logically be one and a federast but he is). He’s bound to use any compromises Cameron makes to raise the free marketeers against him in order to punish him for his scepticism and divide Tory patriots. There may be trouble ahead…

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    • 197
      Inspector Cyril Blake says:

      He was against ID cards and that makes him a good egg in my Observer’s Book of People in the News. Unlike certain other people who did nasty things with e-mails, whom we all know.

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  45. 198

    [...] Conservatives as it proved to be over Margaret Thatcher’s. We can only hope not, but according to Guido Fawkes, the IEA is, “enjoying a burst of increased funding and activity as the expectation that their [...]

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  46. 200
    Moderate comment says:

    So that’s him fixed up with steady employment. £40K pa to the exchequer in tax.

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