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Nick Clegg said…
“Charlie Whelan and Lord Ashcroft are exactly the same. One is the baron of the trade unions, and the other one is the baron of Belize. Both are bankrolling political parties, both are trying to buy seats.”
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You’re all behind me!
You know what? I fucking hate Geoff Hoon.
Denis McShane and Gerald Kaufman for me, but why limit it, Liam Byrne, Hazel Blears, in fact the complete set, none have anything redeeming
you know what, I fucking hate Labour!
Oooh, no there’s plenty.
Hain is a feckin slug.
Balls – I’m feckin speechless on that hoon
Beckett – shoudl be called bucket for obvious reasons
If you are going to start on the females, Caroline Flint, Diane Abbott, borderline Yvette Balls
Diane Abbott was on after QT. I didn’t realise how fick she was.
She looks more and more like a Darol Thatcher Faux Pas
Uncle Rupert Murdoch told me to make sure and get my ten per cent – that bastard Guido pays nobody, he said.
Beckett’s a triple bagger followed by castration and suicide. They are all a waste of macromolecules.
S’pedo, you’ve been sectioned, remember?
Hate is a negative emotion which will affect the body’s immune system in a hurtful manner All you need is love. Don’t hate each other. Calm peace in a deep ocean of hope is the only way for Britain to proceed.
I have just seen the ‘vitims’ of the postal strike on Sky, and I am not so indifferent as to ignore my hatred for the 30%
Yep and Nick griffin generated most of those hits. Not cameron, Not Brown, not Clegg just some mad dude who has sussed what the political elite has NOT sussed.
PS Jacqui Smith is a product of All women short lists. Proof that cameron is barking up the wrong tree.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx WOW!!!!!!
A close friend of the prime minister who lives with her husband in a £1.5m house in London has claimed £230,000 in expenses by saying a flat in Glasgow is her main home.
Baroness Goudie (Goudie of Roundwood in the London Borough of Brent), a Labour donor and fundraiser, has lived since childhood in London where her two sons grew up and her husband works as a leading barrister.
However, the baroness tells the Lords her main address is 400 miles away in a Glasgow apartment block. A close neighbour said she had not seen Goudie there for some time. ”
“She is a trustee of Sarah Brown’s charity”
“Her husband James is a QC who worked in the same London chambers as Blair and Derry Irvine”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6889016.ece
Boring is a boring does
Boring, Boring FFS, the pope has adopted NuLabore bums on seats policy!
The superstitious tribes are joining forces!
Awesome, jews, muhammadans, COE and RC? Anyone opening a book?
Yes, now would be a good time to open the Bible. I’ve just become Catholic.
A close friend of the prime minister who lives with her husband in a £1.5m house in London has claimed £230,000 in expenses by saying a flat in Glasgow is her main home.
Baroness Goudie (Goudie of Roundwood in the London Borough of Brent), a Labour donor and fundraiser, has lived since childhood in London where her two sons grew up and her husband works as a leading barrister.
However, the baroness tells the Lords her main address is 400 miles away in a Glasgow apartment block. A close neighbour said she had not seen Goudie there for some time. ”
“She is a trustee of Sarah Brown’s charity”
“Her husband James is a QC who worked in the same London chambers as Blair and Derry Irvine”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6889016.ece
Important everyone read the story by Andrew Neather. It is political Dynamite. Read it NOW.
Here is one link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Tories are traitors.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1494764/Britain-would-be-happy-to-scrap-the-pound-Heath-told-French.html#
Blame the tories. Dave-you know what you need to do!
Will I have to fight anyone?
Just bend over and pick up that soap, you nonce!
Is Jack Straw a coward like his dad or is he courageous like Gordon Brown?
Both, mutually compatible
He’s a lily livered, yellow bellied coward just like his yellow streak of piss dad!
He is a grotesque smug metrocentric ‘liberal’ Hoon who doesn’t mind fomenting civil unrest if he gets a cheap nanny out of it. Fucking fucking fucking disgusting fucking scumbag. Pardon my french.
yeni gun
http://www.youtube.com/user/cassetteboy#p/a
Why no threads on the biggest story of the year and the one which could destroy the Labour Party?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Yes, you have to wonder don’t you!!!!
It’s not on Conhome either, you know Conhome, those who believe they can take on the BNP on the issues that are driving people to the BNP!
It’s laughable.
As far as the Labour and Conservatives are concerned immigration ensures cheap labour and plenty of oppressed underdogs.
It’s a win win situation as far as those not of this earth are concerned, meanwhile back on the farm you and I can go fuck ourselves.
Has anyone from the Tories said anything about this scandal yet?
“No surprise”. Is that enough?
Plenty more where this policy came from.
For example the Barker Review of Housing Supply 2003-04; designed to open the flood gates to new build and create an imbalance of supply to demand so as to “adjust” the UK’s wealth.
ZaNuLab: Social Engineering – It’s What We Do (Badly).
Smear, sleaze & social engineering: it’s in Labour’s D-N-A.
And the Noo_Lie_Bore f uck-up isn’t over ’til the IMF sings, – it always ends that way for the Sociashitists!
Shame that they are a couple of chromosomes missing!
Eh? I think the opposite happened, we didn’t build more houses, they deliberately boosted credit and house affordability fell through the floor.
High house prices to wages /Low house affordability is not a good thing.
oh and it’s certainly not “wealth” in anything but a rent-seeking way.
As always with ZNL these things go wrong; the intention was to persuade everyone that more houses needed building but the rallying cry was “there is a shortage”. That meant that a price bubble formed in advance of the building programme so you had the perverse situation of increasing oversupply AND rising prices!
Add to the toxic mix uncontrolled credit, compulsory social housing, greed, the demolition of homes in the North East/West (Prescott’s Pathfinder scheme) plus a dictat on building at high density (Prescott again) and you have a decade of distorted markets.
ZNL; Unintended Consequences – That’s What We Do.
Re “wealth” it was not anything complex like rent/buy to let or whatever; essentially McDoom had a (technical and perfectly understandable economically based) bee in the bonnet about the UK’s “wealth” ie the wealth of its citizens being too centred upon bricks and mortar and that this carried technical risk for eg inflation. This was sensible and thought through. House price inflation is a factor in boom’n'bust and he was, you will recall, determined to abolish it!
The rest wasn’t at all sensible, particularly if you add in soshulist dogma, envy, greed, incompetence, Prescott etc. Need I go on?
Surprised?
Don’t look for creditable leadership in that direction.
This could give the tories a very large hammer with which to whack Nulabour, but they won’t, because all discussion has been closed down. The conservatives want to be seen as caring and fluffy and are more concerned about sucking up to liberal wets like Polly Toybee than having an open debate about the biggest bit of social engineering since Chairman Mao.
Crap the Tory traitors were in on the act from the atart.
Where does it say that in the article ??
Tory’s in government in 2000? No mass stealth immigration was Labour’s illegitimate baby.
Nick Soames has.
I think the situation will become so bad in the next 5 years that no-one will be able to afford labour — cheap or otherwise — then watch multi-culti Britain disintegrate when those that can push off to find work in France or Germany (they’ll be EU citizens) or even back to India and Asia and we are left with the residue unemployed and unemployable.
Go and look at the stats, NuLab BluLab, not much diifference.
It’s the elephant in the room…the biggest talking point among ordinary voters, yet the one which no party wants to discuss. That leaves the door open to the bee en pee, but all the time the msn are tanting on about them and Question Time, it’s keeping NuLabour’s marxist social engineering off the front pages.
Whenever this debate starts, someone always shrieks ‘RACIST !’ and everyone falls silent..
Until “racist” has no effect and things go way too far the other way.
Yes exacatly, the lefties don’t seem to understand this though no matter how many times you point it out or use past history in your debates about it.
It will be hard to feel sympathy for them, I personally won’t anyway when they cry over the reaping of the storm they have brewed when it all comes to a fruition in the future.
We have had our suspicions for a long time, so?, nobody is interested, its now the land of fuck you I’m all right jack, and jack isn’t calling the shots. Wake up peasants the last time around it took bubonic plague to get a decent living wage and an end to surfdom. My Lord I swear fealty to the Bankers and the utility companies and if I keep a pig it must be recorded and ratified by the EEC, not only must the pig be tagged the swineherd will get his ear punched with a number as well. Doomsday book!
Because the entire political class agree. They want to swamp us – maybe they feel it’s the only way to prevent civil war?
Either way, don’t expect the tories to reverse this, or the media to see it as a big story. It just doesn’t fit their view. FFS, the ONS says we’re heading for 70 million plus peopl ehere, and the media…. shrug.
it is appalling but can you please move over a bit Frank cos I’ve got three people standing on my feet……..
Take a moment to ponder Hitler’s words below:
“Had Charles Martel not been victorious,” Hitler told his inner crowd in August 1942, “then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world.” Hitler told Albert Speer that Islam is “perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament.” If the Muslims had won in Tours, the whole of Europe would have become Muslim in the 8th century and “the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of [Europe]. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.”
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2636
This is what the Establishment wants for the UK and Europe.
Deliberate policy by the MSM to bury this story. We haven’t followed their guidance after QT and they’re now starting to shit themselves that we may not be as malleable as they hoped… They’re right!
Get ahead of the curve ‘The thick of it’ is back on tonight with a new series.
I almost feel bad about watching it as I dont pay the BBC propaganda tax so I may donate to children in need instead.
OT
Here is an indication of how low the MSM in Scotland will go to try and discredit the SNP.
http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Megrahi-outlives-six-other-criminals.5763045.jp
Those labour scum are allying themselves to the Orange Men in Scotland aren’t they, fucking hell says it.
Will sell their souls to anyone for a vote just so they can get in power. I’m not a religious man but somestimes see the past benefit of burning heretics like the socialists at the stake.
*fucking hell says it all
Hey Guido!
I thought you were into conspiracy’s, you’re very quiet on the hottest story since QT!
You’re making me wonder!!
Phone lines went down on Any Answers whilst discussing immigration, the plot thickens?
The genie is out of the bottle now, will CMD listen?
Are you going to the EDL march in Leeds on 31st October or the islamic “sharia law now!!” march in London on the same day?
I was at school with that Sharia Law. What a slag!
Was this because she was the daughter of Common Law!
I’m getting very tempted to join Old Holborn up London on the 5th November. Despite certain police tasering and rubber bullits and confiscation of Union Flags.
Do you mean this conspiracy? :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
It’s strange how a shocking scandal involving successive Labour governments and mass immigration has suddenly been revealed but there’s still not a word from Cameron or on any ConHome, Coffee House etc where they’re still obsessed with trying to put the boot into some insignificant little extremist party which is destined to become a lot bigger unless the Tories start addressing the issues that really concern most of the electorate.
There is no mileage in having a go at Labour over a policy that also suits them.
If the Tories won’t address it then it’s no wonder that UKIP and, particularly, the b n p are making such headway.
It probably needs more clarifying before he can lead with it. This adviser could always just turn around and say “oh, I didn’t really mean that” and if we get too whipped up into a frenzy it will all be for nothing.
More digging needed, I feel. I hope Guido’s shovel is hard at work as we speak.
British jobs for British immigrants
British dole for British workers.
Are you still an alcoholic?
Cheggers Loves Pop!
Yes, I’m a raki.
The problem they have now is that NO ONE will believe anything but what we have seen reported, so one way or the other this stroy WILL be discissed.
When will you dopes realise that Guido’s an establishment stooge. He’s used as a lightning rod to corral you all into the same pen.
He’s obviously getting a back hander on this one to keep quiet.
Ar ‘ hae’ sav’d the wuld!
An’ soon ar’ shall rule it ov’r ye’all!
An’ speaking as a champ’num of tha’ inclusiv’ divvy, equality and multi’culti ball’shut ye hav’ ta’un wull tae me – an’ ah’m foreign!!
An’ nuth’ns ma’ fult ye un’stn!
Mandelson likes it from behind.
Who doesn’t, ducky.
is any questions worth listening too? does smith get humiliated?
Smith is cocky and arrogant, as you would expect from a narcissistic sociopath, while Jonathan Dimbleby just sucks up to her. She certainly didn’t get the “Griffin treatment” though no Labour politician ever would from the BBC.
Waste of time listening,it was one member of an exclusive club looking after another member of an exclusive club with a few loud voices thrown in to make it sound as if it was a debate, with the braindead clapping as if someone was winning an argument,BBC and MP’s are all in that club so us plebs lose again.
It’s been long known that AlJaBeebya stacks the audience to support the left, it was just a whole lot more visible this time around.
There was a verbal “cat fight” at the end between Nadine and Jacqui over the question of “all-woman short lists” – like most men Dimbleby tried to interfere but was totally ignored – never interupt two women having an argument Jonathon !!!
Better in a mud bath though.
Oooh, smith? yuck!
If the Tories stay quiet on this Labour/immigration scandal then they will allow Griffin’s lot to exploit it for all it’s worth.
Cameron has an open goal and he should boot the ball over the line. It could effectively finish Labour in many of their traditional constituencies.
Labour lied to their own voters, aswell as the rest of us, about their mass immigration policy. If Cameron doesn’t deal with this then there’s something wrong with him.
How may open goals has CMD ignored to date.
Exactly, is it hidden strategy or is he really the heir to Blair?
Calm down everybody!
I have it on good authority that David Cameron will make a public statement on this immigration issue on Monday. Labour will not be allowed to get away with this.
CMD should play the line that whilst he welcomes people to this country, we can only welcome what we can afford & social engineering is a dangerous thing. Also play on the “honesty” line which seems to have been working quite well against the bunch of lying bastards
> we can only welcome what we can afford & social engineering is a dangerous thing.
You use this “WE” word alot, that’s a sign of a collectivist. “We” normally means “i’m going to make others pay for my choices”.
The best way to decide how many the U.K. can afford? Asylum funded 100% by Charity.
Foreign Visitors have to insure against chance they leave.
Surely the line to play is that a party which decides to socially engineer the country so radically but refuses to discuss it, or get a mandate for it with the electorate, and then to lie about it and close down all debate by screaming racist, has proved itself totally unfit to govern.
Dream on, Surrey Tory, you’re saying all this comes as a surprise to CMD. He does live in England doesn’t he? You would have thought he would have noticed.
Lib/Lab/Con – different wings of the same party – all with the same agenda: use mass immigration to destroy British National/Cultural identity. Without National unity there will be no one to pull their noses from the national, and soon EU, trough. I think we may be fucked.
It’s history repeating it’s self, the battle between national socialism and international socialism all over again.
Their is too many brain dead and brain washed people in the world now to go any other way than the inevitable battle.
WW3 in our times, 100% guarauntee it.
Another complacent Tory Koont trying to patronise us. Eff off Tory Boy!
To 32.
Have sent an e mail to the cons asking what their position is on this scandal.
Maybe they will reply.
A true patriot
Soldier ‘proud’ of anti-war march
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8322676.stm
I wonder what he thinks of his mates getting spat on though.
When I said – “Education! Education! Education!” there was a typo on my tele-prompt.What I meant to say was – “Immigration ! Immigration ! Immigration!” I hope that’s put the record straight !!
WIPE YOUR SNOTTY NOSE ON YOUR SLEEVE!
Watch QT from Thursday again – the most important sentence of the whole 60
minutes came from Straw;
“We will not cap immigration – that will be too authoritarian”
When I heard that,I saw the vileness that is Labour in all it’s glory – its more than an elephant – its a whole herd of them.
Too authoritarian! He’s got some fucking nerve. I’d like to tear out his still beating heart and drink his blood!
Too authoritarian! He’s got some fucking nerve!!!
I smiled when I heard him say that line on Thursday….
Its “too authoritarian” to impose such caps on important issues like immigration – and remember the “light touch” financial regulation.
Yet elsewhere this Government have become Stasi like with their authority….under EU directives every sheep and cow in the country is tagged and registered – yet this Government dont know how many people are here !!
And the Tory traitors are silent.
Rubbish.
David Cameron will issue a public statement on Labour’s immigration scandal on Monday.
Labour will pay a heavy price for this deception.
What – like the need to stand in Parliament and “apologise” and then bugger off to count their bank balance and check that the day’s quota of immigrants have safely arrived?
Dream on.
Shan’t hold my breath but will open a bottle of 2007 Elderberry (tax free) to breath
I’m looking forward to hearing what Cameron has to say on Monday. If he doesn’t take a strong line then the b n p will benefit at the ballot box.
Will he cover the referendum as well, and will he mention the Tories part in the scandal.
Surrey Tory, It’s taken the Tories 10 years to notice , (or rather to not notice Labours eugenics policy), and on monday you will make it all OK. Sod you.
I have the feeling Straw was playing to some of his consituents there….vote for us and the gates remain open….
Doesn’t matter what he said – labour are finished .
What’s important now is what the tories do.
It’s time to trash multi-culturalism( evil programme) and promote integration.
And, of course, immigration is going to be capped. Now is a time to consolidate not expand.
Multi-culture = Multi demos = No Democracy.
If this is true,if this man stands by this report,this should finish Labour.
If they get away with it,then the British People deserve all they get.
If we go by the last decade,sadly,the British have not had a fine Hour.
If this is true,the socialshits are even lower than i imagined.
Proof if it was needed of how self loathing they realy are.
Time to leave
Pack your bags and go
Anywhere where there is space
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
How on earth (literally!) can another 10 million people fit in to the UK?
The roads will not be wider,or the trains any longer,or the airports have any more runways,or the schools any more classrooms,or the hospitals any more wards/beds/operating surgeries or the Govt budget any more money to pay more unemployed,or ….the list is as endless as the number of people swarming in to the UK.
This is not about race or creed,it is about SPACE – ironically what Hitler called Lebensraum.
Time to go.
And in the coming 5 years,investment in schools will decline by 10%,road building will decline,hospital building will decline – every type of investment will decline to try to pay off Brown’s £178bn debt!
So how can the investment needed to cope with another 10 million people over the next 20 yrs ever happen?
It’s totally unworkable.
Because these “investments” were being made by the state it had no effect on outcome anyway, I doubt the fall in funding (not calling it investment) will have much effect on outputs either.
Get Government out of provisioning Schools and Hospitals if you want education and healthcare.
Why won’t anybody talk about me?
Cos it will be the government doing it, and therefore it will be all wrong.
Without immigration the U.K. land per person would be rising, so there’s no need for “you”. We need rational immigration (auctioning right to work in U.K., no more benefits/welfare state, and an LVT and CD).
Maybe not.Things are good and bad in equal measure at the moment.
Less than 10% of the population is of ethnic origin.
Not as many as the B&P would have you believe for their aims and not as much as socialists would admit so as to justify their wonky disproportionate agenda bending.
close the borders,send back all illegals raise education standards to the highest not lowest denominator and reinstitute the Police FORCE and fair but rutheless judiciary.
Otherwise pack your bags.
Most of the 10% is crammed into a very small part of the country geographically and not much bigger bit populationally ( if there is such a word).
That’s why the establishment still don’t get it .
The places they live are not affected.
You can get 1 million in Straw’s cranium if you remove the ‘wool’!
Never! Leave my beloved Fens?? Never!
Once we get rid of this manic labour government and deport this failed marxist scottish crew we shall get things back in balance.
Too flat for my taste.
You miss the depth and beauty of the landscape!!!!
Too much sky.
Darlin’ the sky is everything !!!!
To see it at sunset across the forty foot or hundred foot dykes!! Oh My!!
But when I was I was a girl and I watched the sunset at the end of summer when they were burning off the stubble that was something else!!!!
For all of you concerned at why David Cameron has not spoken about the revelation’s in yesterday’s and today’s newspapers regarding Labour’s deception over mass immigration, please be patient.
Mr Cameron will be making a public statment about this on Monday.
No disrespect surrey Tory but why haven’t we seen a comment like your making on Conhome, they’re quite in the know!
Sky reported Cameron is said to be “extremely concerned” about this immigration issue and will make a statement when he has examined it further in the next day or two.
As for ConHome, they are well out of the loop. Tim Montgomerie and Cameron can’t stand each other.
Thank you, that’s very interesting on both points!
‘Cameron to announce that painting houses purple will not be tolerated’
I tend to favour Surrey’s view here though we will find out either way next week.
I still feel that most politicians don’t get it as they do not live with the problem and see it as a “theoretical issue”. I am sure Cam will make as much political capital as he can( while not appearing extremist) but will still not probably realise its impact on real people.
Surrey Tory,
you sound as if you are in the know,if so, have you anymore to go on?
Meanwhile this weekend there will be frantic phone calls, threats, backtracking and finally a new “statement” that, actually, he didn’t mean that at all, there was no attempt to decieve the public, and immigration was all about aiding the economy and not to socially engineer or to “rub the rightwing’s noses in it”
http://bit.ly/2nGYfq
Support freedom, not the AGW scam. Count Yourself OUT.
Well Obama already has . His spokesman said he is not going to Copenhagen because no worthwhile deal will be agreed there.
Poor gordon!!
He’s so in love.
He’s not going to Copenhagen because Gordon’s there.
No Cheggers drinks pop
Heard Labour MP Ian Davidson complaining about Duke of York’s comments about the bankers & bonuses.
How can this trougher complain about anything to do with money after the HoC has been shown up with their ‘expenses’ , the fecking brassneck of the twat.
The pillock even had the gall to mention that the Royalty should beware as they are paid by the public purse…fecking kettle…fecking black!!
It used to work that – diverting the attention of a gullible public elsewhere.
Guido
In front or behind?
I thought that you had given up back door action
Depends if he’s “pitching” or “catching”
Mr McMoses
Will two a day be enough?
You do after all have to steer your people through through this shite that has nothing at all to do with you.
WE TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS A LONG TERM PLAN TO DESTROY THE UK…….
jack straw’ the english are not worth saving’………
jack you are a piece of shit!
I fear that for the likes of Straw it is water off a ducks back. These idiots have been plotting since their marxist/commie circle-jerks at university to kill off England and turn us into grey-clad, obedient drones. How they must have wept when the berlin wall came down and russia ditched communism, but they quickly found a new way to try to do it under the guise of multiculturalism.
Grey-clad obedient drones???
Not in your lifetime and not in mine!!!! We aren’t going to conform are we??
The english are famous for their bloody mindedness. We fenfolk are proud of it.
This is how Straw repays England for giving his family sanctuary.
Communists don’t recognise borders just like muslim religion doesn’t
We must not make that mistake again.
a Merry Christmas to all our readers
You’re obviously on a puree diet, whoever you are.
Spido and his tired old shock tactics *yawns*
What if another 10million dole scroungers do arrive, I can’t simply believe all 10 million will be top knotch skilled with their own money to bring to this country.
Ok maybe not all 10 million will be dole scroungers but I refuse to believe the majority of them have come to contribute when past evidence has shattered this myth completely.
Does anyone know what a person gets from the Dole each month these days?
Times it by say 5 million and we’ll thus we have another bill and peice of debt to pay yearly as a country.
If their spelling/mathematics are better than yours then they should be OK lol.
Dole = £65 pw roughly, say £3,750 pa.
At 5 million peeps, that is about £19 billion pa.
Doh!
There’s me too busy taking the pi$$ to do my sums!
£65 pw = £3,400 pa.
So £17 billion, my bad….
The new immigrants cannot believe their luck. The more children they have to more money and social services they get – plus assured citizenship. No wonder the high birthrate compared with the indigenous Brits. Compared to their own country where the reverse happens – this is truly paradise. We’re fucked.
All they need now is to orchestrate the campaign to get the troops home roundly defeated by the T•l•b•n, transfer the IEDs to the M25 so they can take pot shots at the army without the need to travel all the way to Afghanistan to do it. Just like the IRA did.
I heard it was the inability to get insurance for City of London buildings that led to the Good Friday Agreement — expect many more 7/7s.
Somebody mentioned population control. At present rates of population increase control mechanisms will be necessary far sooner than later.
It would be far from simple to apply the same points system to future couples wanting children in the manner of that much maligned immigration points system.
It would be easier, however to withhold benefits from poor couples who simply refused to forgo the right to have children, or to opt for sterilisation. A similar system has already been applied very successfully to the poor of Singapore.
Guidos ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
But probably pissed, he almost completely missed the fact that it was Friday and how much all look forward to a good caption contest
…and even worse, as long as he gets his ‘tractor’ stats as per this post, he does not really give a fig about his loyal readers!
For Pete’s Sake!!!!
Why are we allowing the beanpea to post all this scaremongering rubbish about immigration on here without being challenged???
C’mon we are rational, thinking people .
Anybody ever read ‘The Alien Communities (in England) in the Fifteenth century. The Subsidy Rolls of 1440 and 1483-4′ ??
The rolls show that 6% , and probably more of the population, were alien immigrants.
Immigration is not new.
And the beanpea’s rubbish assertions that people are a ‘pure’ race is ridiculous.
We are all of many races and mixed. It goes back many generations!!!!
scaremongering rubbish about immigration
Oh my god, you almost sound serious, you have read the story? Not that anyone really needs to, just look around!!!!! The story was just conformation about what we already knew.
UAF member or just someone lefty are you? Do one will ya?
So what was the population then nellie, about 2 million? This is about numbers you dopey cow.
No! This is about percentages.!!
6% means the same whatever. It’s 6 in every 100, and would feel the same in 2million, 20 million or 60 million.
Maybe you need to get some maths education!!!!
Err… nellie, the square mileage of the UK hasn’t changed since the 1400’s to my knowledge, so I tend to think there may have been a little more breathing space then. Ya dig?
Yes but Nell, in those days, they would have had to build their own homes and furnish them, at their own expense, not like now, where fully furnished houses, including t.v. and t.v. licence are all supplied, as well as their utility bills being paid and a handful of cash placed in their outstretched hands.
There was none of that in those days and if there was none of that now, then I’d pretty much guarantee, there wouldn’t be many queuing up to get into Blighty.
That’s not factually true as the UN and science can back up the bmps arguement, you are ignoring already set and agreed on reality.
Indigenous peoples around the world have sought recognition of their identities, their ways of life and their right to traditional lands, territories and natural resources; yet throughout history, their rights have been violated. Indigenous peoples are arguably among the most disadvantaged and vulnerable groups of people in the world today. The international community now recognizes that special measures are required to protect the rights of the world’s indigenous peoples.
red squirrel and grey squirrel, cuckoo’s etc. etc.
The BMP have a legally sound bandwagon.
Then you must post a link to support your assertions!!
Google the ‘UN declaration on indigenous people and there rights’.
There does not seem to be one definitive definition of indigenous people, but generally indigenous people are those that have historically belonged to a particular region or country, before its colonization or transformation into a nation state, and may have different—often unique—cultural, linguistic, traditional, and other characteristics to those of the dominant culture of that region or state.
•Historically, conquering societies have created arguments and moral justifications for their approaches.
•Some have included views that the former people living in the conquered lands were not “civilized” (they were “savages” etc), and had no concept of individual property rights, etc and so they never “owned” the lands they lived in
•Therefore it was seen as okay to claim the “unoccupied” or “unowned” land as their own.
•Furthermore, this subtle imposition of the outsider’s culture, practices and norms onto other cultures (to whom many facets may be alien or alternative to their ways) when used in this manner, is coercive and denies them rights, while transferring them to the newcomers instead.
•And so, if ever the formerly dispossessed people attempt to regain some of what they unfairly lost, then it will be countered by such technicalities.
That is why Marxists try and use the Romans, we are all from Africa and any other shaky assertions they can think of that undermines any historical claims to get us to give up our rights as the dominant indigenous people of the UK.
You simply can not have a multi cultural society with out removing the indigenous people, as the native Indians in America found out.
Its about numbers Nell. We’re too crowded, (most in Europe I believe); about to slash public spending (necessary) and are forecasting a 15% rise in population over the next 20 years.
We can’t sustain it. In fact, its broken already.
Yes, I believe we’re soon to be the most densely populated nation in Europe, if not already, and also globally we are near the top of the list. WTF do they think they’re doing? Experiments on rats have shown that the higher the population density, the greater the stress levels and incidents of ill health. Explains a lot doesn’t it?
Can I use population density on my Incapacity Benefit claim form?
Yeah, lets just hope you don’t get to contribute to the gene pool though.
Once my benefits are in the post my member is ready for action.
Nope we aren’t .
If you are looking for population densities look to China, Belgium and India.
We are nowhere near!!
Belgium eh? I rest my fucking case. So is that it then, or are we fourth? I think that’s about enough for a little island in the North Sea don’t you?
The whole point being nell, that if we carry on as we are, we will be near the top of the list.
It isn’t true – post links to support your claims .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/2967374/England-is-most-crowded-country-in-Europe.html
Oh dear nell, looks like you’ve been skewered.
Not skewered, but twatted! Nell is a twat.
Agreed, she is an irritating little **** !
To 139.
Now your talking,forget the bloody rest,I fully agree WE ARE OVERCROWDED, and the infrastructure is coming apart at the fucking seams and this brought about by a bunch of troughing social engineering marxist wankers.
Yeah but, Nell, there wasn’t the sort of sophisticated aircraft we have now so immigration wasn’t so easy.
6%! ! Ivor in the 15th century!!! The proof’s there in existing historical documents.
Yes I accept that labour have got it wrong. Well labour have got everything wrong!!!!
There should not be unlimited immigration. Labour’s multicultural policy is rubbish.
There needs to be a cap on immigration and a rigorous programme of integration. It won’t happen until we get rid of this scottish labour/marxist crew who do not identify with British or English.
The Tories are the one’s who are going to have to address this issue .
The beanbag party however are a nothing. If they get one or two MP’s at the next GE, and I doubt it, they will never amount to anything . And thank God for that. Evil people that they are.
Some Tories are evil. Margeret Thatcher was ok. Honest. ‘Not sure about Dave – and there is too much to gamble, so I’m with UKIP so far.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1494764/Britain-would-be-happy-to-scrap-the-pound-Heath-told-French.html#
UKIP is good if it is going to elect a new leader and widen it’s policy base as I hope it is.
I won’t vote for it here because I am in a tory stronghold. But I will cheer for it in areas where I think it could make inroads into the labour vote and rob beanpea of votes.
What’s the problem this time, Fawkes?
Nell wanted links to disprove her statement; I’ve given some.
Plus a few suggestions as to what Cameron MUST include in his reputedly promised ruminations on Monday, if they’re not to be the usual total whitewash.
Try again but spell contencious words backwards?
Thanks, Ivor, but I’d be biting the keyboard if I did that.
To be fair, the links may be involved, although both work from the post awaiting moderation.
In brief: Population/sq km: UK 255; China 139.
Whites to become an ethnic minority in the UK within 50 years.
Oh dear nell, looks like you’ve been twatted.
Erm, I don’t doubt the veracity of the Subsidy Rolls, though I do doff my cap to the administrators of the 14th century who managed to take a census without any modern conveniences like rapid communications. Mind you, people tended not to move about the country so much, making it a little easier to count them.
I wonder how much influence the Black Death of the early 14th century had on immigration? I seem to recall that we lost about 30% of the population, so there might have been quite a few ‘job vacancies’ about for a few decades afterwards. They might have been very glad of the extra hands.
Look I’m of foreign decent too,-going back a century or more. Most folk with black hair are. The true welsh of which Griffin isn’t are red haired so are the scots as were the english who fled west. Sure we had roman influence as in our cities and town architecture but immigrants from other places should not be expected to build mud huts here or wear grass skirts. The romans wore togas because thee climate was warmer in those days.
This is about culture not skin colour and there is no doubt that thosew who were born in many places in the UK have seen their environments change beyon d recognition and its not acceptable to many. Can you imagine the aztecs coming here in great numbers and building pyrimids? We need more henges and Union Flags being placed everywhere.
The point I was trying to make is that the immigration situation we face today is not quite comparable to the immigration situation of the 1400’s. We haven’t had a population drop like that – not even the two world wars caused a decline of population comparable to that caused by the Plague.
The true welsh of which Griffin isn’t are red haired
Not so. The true Welsh are of Basque descent and are black-haired with swarthy complexion. It’s all in the DNA evidence.
Extract from the Wikipedia article on The Black Death.
In England, in the absence of census figures, historians propose a range of pre-incident population figures from as high as 7 million to as low as 4 million in 1300,[50] and a post-incident population figure as low as 2 million.[51] By the end of 1350 the Black Death had subsided, but it never really died out in England over the next few hundred years: there were further outbreaks in 1361–62, 1369, 1379–83, 1389–93, and throughout the first half of the 15th century.[52] The plague often killed 10% of a community in less than a year—in the worst epidemics, such as at Norwich in 1579 and Newcastle upon Tyne in 1636, as many as 30 or 40%. The most general outbreaks in Tudor and Stuart England, all coinciding with years of plague in Germany and the Low Countries, seem to have begun in 1498, 1535, 1543, 1563, 1589, 1603, 1625, and 1636.[53]
The plague repeatedly returned to haunt Europe and the Mediterranean throughout the 14th to 17th centuries, and although bubonic plague still occurs in isolated cases today, the Great Plague of London in 1665–1666 is generally recognised as one of the last major outbreaks.[54]
Eng! As always . Interesting statistics.
I’m a genealogist who knows that I am a fenwoman who can trace her origins in the fens for 700 years but I am also descended from norman blacksmiths , irish quakers and egyptian gipsies.
The truth is we are all mixed race . And we should be grateful for it.
Those races which have closed ranks and inter-bred, cousin to cousin, have very significant disabilities. Haemophilia, heart disease, kidney and liver problems.
Diversity is a good thing.
That must have been some party!
Nell – I quite agree about diversity. My roots go back to Lancashire, Warwickshire, Somerset and North-East Wales with a bit of Irish coming in about 1760. And that’s just the bits I know about.
I’m not arguing against immigration, some enrichment of the mix is a good thing. I just think that at the moment, we’re having too much of it, and it’s having a disproportionately negative effect in some parts of the country. Have you visited Leicester or Wolverhampton recently? Not to mention some of the old Lancashire mill towns.
“My roots go back to Lancashire, Warwickshire, Somerset and North-East Wales with a bit of Irish coming in about 1760.”
Jeez Engineer, it’s hardly what you’d call an exotic mix is it? You’re 99% English stock mate, and you should be proud of it.
I think you will find that was before we had murderous mozis in our midst!
I reckon I’m about as ‘indigenous’ as anybody in Britain – and yes, I am proud of it – very deeply proud of it – but it doesn’t make me any better than any other human being.
I still think some immigration is a good thing. It’s just that we’re having too much of it at the moment, and it’s causing problems which the mainstream parties are ignoring. Hence the rise of the Unmentionables.
“..but it doesn’t make me any better than any other human being.”
I didn’t say it did, but surely you have the right as indigenous to these islands to have a say in who comes here, and in what numbers.
Closed ranks and inbreeding = Royal Families of Europe.
Look at them.
No chin,spouts bollocks,false modesty. That engineer’s an English buffoon of many years careful interbreeding. It’s what Tories do,don’t you know?
Its the massive scale and low quality of immigrants that matters, thats the probem and its a numbers game, low IQ and low inteligence and a lifetime of benefit dependency coupled with a refusal to integrate and a desire to import their own third world culture into our native culture.
See the problem?
There is a problem, a bloody great elephant in the room problem, the UK is being flooded with hostile colonists a great many of whom are fully dependent on the welfare system and will be for life, we cannot afford another underclass, we have enough of our own!
Actually Eng. I think you’ll find that WW1 killed , by percentage, a greater number of people, than the Black Death.
Whites on the whole are not truly mixed race, with their recessive genes otherwise their would not be any whites left. You may have a link in the chain that was not causcian but you are still of the white genus and you still have a history and culture that no one else can take away.
Once again, fake leftie science blown out of the water, try again to keep your myth alive.
It’s not our fault you hate your skin colour so much.
anon – I am anything but leftist sweetie!!!!
At the same I am not NOT!! Racist.!!
Nell you are mistaken, the WW 1 death rate percentage was tiny compared to the plague death rate as a % of population.
Speak for yourself Nell, you may be a “mongrel” but I’m certainly not.
Yes it’s a bit far fetched to imagine a load of egyption gypsies on camels making their way across the channel and up into norfolk without so much as an a-z. never mind the cold wet weather to contend with. I don’t suppose an irish smiffy would get much work over the local blacksmith without some breakdown in the local economy either.
Stop propagating this “the British are a mongrel nation” rubbish. I’d be interested to know what the definition of “Alien Community” was in the Middle Ages – I’m willing to bet it wasn’t Black or Asian. In the 1950’s census there were less than 10,000 blacks in the UK – the country was uniformly white and has been for the past millennia. If you’re happy with the balkanisation of Britain just come out and say it but stop hiding behind this meme of we’re a nation of immigrants crap ,because we’re not!!
Nell. I have a treat for you because I know you like reading. This immigration business, because it is a business and nothing to do with enlighting narrow minded little englanders, is stemming from our treachourous former Prime Ministers. Namely Edward Heath and his lackies ever since.
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/archive/heath-eec.asp
It’s certainly a business in the London Borough that i live in. Landlords renting properties to the taxpayer to house asylum seekers and new immigrants entitled to benefits. The latest scam is housing illegals in garden sheds,garages and empty shops. The High Street is full of immigration “services” arranging student and other visas. Every set of traffic lights has it’s own gang of Roma women with babies,begging from motorists.The childless ones carry a doll.Somalian,Romanian and Vietnamese gangs fight turf wars for the drug rights. No wonder there’s a shortage of housing. 147 cannibis factories were discovered in one month.
Blimey. Where’s that?
Sounds like Oxford to me. Am I right?
Bigger population gives you a larger share of the vote on The EU Council of Ministers.
http://www.fipra.com/doc.php?document_id=2
I think I read somewhere that had Blair stuck to ‘natural’ UK population expansion, we’d only have 8% or less, now we’re nearer to Germany and France on 15% and 14% respectively with 12.8% — entirely due to our mass immigration over the past 10 years.
Gerrymandering, not on behalf of British turf wars, but on EU Council of Minister ones. Blair’s been planning his coronation since day one.
Susie-nail on head. Immigration had nothing to do with promoting harmony and cultural diversity which we were’nt asked about anyway. Its Europe. You are spot on. Thank you. Message to immigrants-you are have been used and we all suffer because we have run out of money and ammenities. space and decent landscape. democracy and sovereignty. Vote to return sovereign democracy and sensibility. We’re in this together. Vote UKIP.
And it gets worse…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6258138/EU-embryonic-Home-Office-set-up-in-secret-talks-under-Lisbon-Treaty.html
No wonder Labour dropped ID cards at their conference, we’ll have ‘em anyway via the EU.
What a load of nasty people on this blog site, so predictable. Why don’t you all consider the benefits of having an improved gene pool,fewer pasty spotty white fat English people. The English are all immigrants in this island which was once a haven for us Celts . Sod on back to Germany where you all belong.
“Why don’t you all consider the benefits of having an improved gene pool,”
Have you ever tried shagging anybody in a burka, you berk?
I did once. Turned out to be a Somalian gangster on the run.
Mind you,best shag i ever had.
Susie-thanks. It’s not if we get Lisbon, we will. Its signed up and delivered. It will be in force before the election. Technically, anyone including Dave will be breaking the law by questioning it. There’s as much chance of him being turned over as there is UKIP.
The coming battle will not be between left and right,but between federalists and nationalists. It’s happening across Europe. Choose your side carefully.
” Why don’t you all consider the benefits of having an improved gene pool,”
There is a programme due to be screened soon, maybe this weekend, which reckons that those of colour are less intelligent than whites.
If that is true, then it would hardly be improving the gene pool, would it?
Survival International criticizes Britain and France, of being opposed to some aspects of rights for indigenous peoples, as well as the United States. These two countries, formerly commanding vast empires and colonies have also subjected native peoples to cruel denial of rights and oppression.
A key part of the declaration has been the “collective” right of indigenous peoples, for they are seen by many indigenous communities as “essential for the integrity, survival and well-being of our distinct nations and communities. They are inseparably linked to our cultures, spirituality and worldviews. They are also critical to the exercise and enjoyment of the rights of indigenous individuals.” (Letter from 40 indigenous peoples’ organizations to Tony Blair, September 2004, quoted by the above-mentioned article from Survival International.)
Labour tried to block the UK being signed up and recognising the indigenous rights charter in 2005. Now we know why.
Legally this is really dynamite stuff now thanks to Andrew Neather.
Have you got a link to this please?
Not the person you are replying to but I did find this:
United Nations Declaration on the Rights of
Indigenous Peoples
http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/en/drip.html
One part in particular I found interesting:
Article 8
1. Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.
2. States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of forced population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;
(e) Any form of propaganda designed to promote or incite racial or ethnic discrimination directed against them.
Thanks for that. When does the revolt start? Ethnocide.
So that’s where Kinnockio went wrong in ‘92. It was his triumphalist scream of ALL WHIITTE,wot done it.
I suppose that if you are capable of two, two, initiations of war to dispose of a sovereign nation’s leader such as in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan then this seems quite trivial to Tony Bliar and his cohorts. Three
Anonymous 10:05pm
Brill. Thanks. Me thinks things are going to hot up a lot for the Government. . Let the writs fly. Court action all around.
Treason is still on the books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_Felony_Act_1848
You’re are either in front of Guido or behind, sounds a bit gay to me.
Coooeeee….!
He stole my family motto.
Sounds like wishful thinking.
Any nation that cuts up and fragments it’s national symbols, such as in the case of the design of the new currency, is in deep trouble.
http://www.royalmint.com/newdesigns/designsrevealed.aspx
They were going to have the various faces of Labour through the years on Stamps.
The idea was shelved when testers didn’t know which side to spit on
this is all just too bloody depressing
There’s a video of a boxing pussy on youtube. That’ill chear you up
I want one.
There is also one of a completely camp, slippery pussy, Jack ‘old trot’ Straw!
Gawd elp, you’re not kidding.
I swear my pulse is about 150.
That’s it. I’m going back to get completely pissed.
To the pub that is.
Christ I can’t think or type properly, eeeeeeeeeee
None of that is going to make it out of moderation is it!
Maybe you are right not to publish! I feel bad for stating it but that is the truth!
Normal middleclass and working class are sick of it all! I have a mate who has married a Black woman who has taken a job in my industry. She got in under the Labour blanket ‘let them inpolicy’. I like her but she is doing a job i am qualified to do. My view regrettably is I come first and should have that job over her. If they want to be together they should rent their property out and live in Africa.
I am sorry this is whay happens in an econmy that collapses like ours has done.
White folk are welcome but anyone else can go.
Are you saying that because she is coloured she should have been denied employment?
You are not clear. What was the pronlem here ???
Are we talking about south african segregation policies where they measured the tightness of a curl in the hair to determine whether a citizen should be regarded as first or second class
Yet what happened to the white people who turned Rhodesia into one of the richest countries in Africa, they where kicked out and had to flee for their lives for being immigrants by black nationalists and white marxists like Hain.
White farmers had jobs taken and given to blacks by force, What happened to colour doesn’t matter then?
Look at Rhodesia sic Zimbabwe today. It’s all a one way street, don’t even no why bother to comment or point it out anymore, all the evidence history needs will be apparent in a few decades.
We’ve got people in this country offering whites plane tickets to the south pole if they don’t like whats happening in what they thought was home since records began.
Nuff said.
Rhodesia was thriving and everyone, black and white, had more than enough to eat and the country was peaceful and stable for years.
Look at it now under black despotic rule: Zimbabwe is full of hungry frightened, black people, a few remaining terrified whites, all ruled by a tyrannical gang of black gangsters.
South Africa is rapidly heading the same depressing way. Whites still living there should get out before they become another crime statistic.
Great Britain is heading the same depressing way. But don’t say it too loudly or you’ll be branded a racist.
Labour disgracefully sold out the white South Africans applying for asylum in the UK since they have been in power as well.
Zimbabwe has the right kind of black gangsters ruling it though, Comrade Mugabe would never be displaced by any of the other comrades white, black or asian, it’s the unwritten rule of communism that only a few such as bottler brown has ignored; comrades never attack or remove other comrades from power.
So Africa only works well because of the immigrants?
No Nell, he’s talking about jobs in this country being given to foreigners instead of to English people, and what’s worse, the foreigners are given preferential treatment in front of the English.
Now if you’re English, qualified, and some foreigner is given preferential treatment thus leaving you on the dole queue it is more than bloody annoying.
Now, do you GEDDIT or are you just too bloody thick or too infected with PC to understand?
Oh don’t be such a twit you beanpea person!!
Of course there are issues here!!!!
Labour’s multi-cultural policies, like their economics are rubbish.
What we need to do is replace them with balanced, sensible, integrationist policies and a cap on immigration.
But we need also to acknowledge that there has, for centuries, been significant immigration into Britain that has been beneficial.
None of us, even me, and I can trace my fenwoman’s history back 700 years to within 20 miles of where I am now living, can claim to be ‘pure blood’ as the beanpea people do. And I would not want to.
Actually I’m proud of my mixed history , hindu, sindhi, muslim, jewish, jain. American, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Indian, Pakistan.Ireland.
In fact , I’m a family historian, amongst other things, and I am going to be taking an in-depth look at some of these beanpea people over the next few weeks. What’s the betting that they are connected, like the rest of us, to a variety of creeds and colours.
Oh Dear Griffen!!!!! – what does your family history show?????
Oh don’t be such a twit you beanpea person!!
Of course there are issues here!!!!
Labour’s multi-cultural policies, like their economics are rubbish.
What we need to do is replace them with balanced, sensible, integrationist policies and a cap on immigration.
But we need also to acknowledge that there has, for centuries, been significant immigration into Britain that has been beneficial.
None of us, even me, and I can trace my fenwoman’s history back 700 years to within 20 miles of where I am now living, can claim to be ‘pure blood’ as the beanpea people do. And I would not want to.
Actually I’m proud of my mixed history , hindu, sindhi, m++slim, j++wish, jain. American, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Indian, P++kistan.Ireland.
In fact , I’m a family historian, amongst other things, and I am going to be taking an in-depth look at some of these beanpea people over the next few weeks. What’s the betting that they are connected, like the rest of us, to a variety of creeds and colours.
Oh Dear Griffen!!!!! – what does your family history show?????
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OK Jonno – Are you saying that nick’blesshim’ is pure blood english and should be given preferential treatment , in respect of employment, over every other person in britain , expecially those who have a proven immigrant history of descent?
Can we have a detailed , in depth, proven, genealogical chart of griffen’s family history going back at least 500 years to prove that he has absolutely no immigrant blood in his ancestry, anywhere in his lines, before we make our minds up about that!???!!!
Be a good idea to spell his name correctly before you start researching.
Nothing personal Nell, but you seem to be a bit simple so I’ll try to put this as simply as I can.
The issue isn’t Nick Griffin’s geneological ancestry, or yours, or mine. The issue is this weekends admission by a senior Labour govt advisor that for 12 years Labour have beeen pursuing a covert policy of flooding the country with millions of third-world immigrants in a deliberate act of social engineering in order to completely alter the face of this country forever.
None of us were given the opportunity to vote for this multi-cultural nightmare, it was just foisted on us. Nearly every town and city in Britain has been altered to some extent and now contains alien ghettos. This process continues apace.
The country has been Balkanised and even you must know what regularly happens in the Balkans. It’s not pretty and it’s not nice and none of us voted for it.
Now please stop wittering on about your ancestry. No-one’s interested.
Nell I keep trying to get a birth cert from the BMD for one of my family born 17000 years ago but they say the pictures on the cave wall have been lost due to the romans mining lead in the area,have you any ideas or should I try Rootsweb or the IGI,because if the bee en pee get in,I will get thrown out of Britain if I can’t prove my lineage. :-)
What he is saying Nell is that because he is white “indigenous” he should be given preferential treatment over a black woman.
Nope he is Just saying that he was here first by the simple fact he is indiginous ie born here and someone came in who was not born here and took his job. Subtle difference but people like you anon are so Politically correct you twist everything on this subject. Why didn’t you just call him ‘racist’ like you types normally do to shut down any discussions or alternative points that are different to your own narrow minded views.
There may be good reasons for immigration and commonly are even here but the topic under discussion is the flooding of the UK by a main stream political party for their own political ends. I see these actions as the direct opposite of what the Bee&Pee are doing however both are equally repugnant and disgraceful as you are both in your own ways extremists.
Sorry but whoever you are annon as bad as the bee&pee but in the opposite way but more dangerously unlike the Bee&pee you are either to naive or stupid to see it.
She’s probably better at it than you.
None of that is going to make it out of moderation is it!
Maybe you are right not to publish! I feel bad for stating it but that is the truth!
Normal middleclass and working class are sick of it all! I have a mate who has married a Black woman who has taken a job in my industry. She got in under the Labour blanket ‘let them inpolicy’. I like her but she is doing a job i am qualified to do. My view regrettably is I come first and should have that job over her. If they want to be together they should rent their property out and live in Africa.
I am sorry this is whay happens in an econmy that collapses like ours has done.
White folk are welcome but anyone else can go.
Don’t worry pal, there’ll be plenty more burger flippin opportunities to come for you the future I’m sure.
Oh fuck off Martin you lazy prick
Hello Mark Senior!
Your Libdems are going to be wipped out! They are going to be trashed!
So you will be in good company!!!
You can spin local election results to death but you and your shit party will be wiped out with Labour! How do you feel about that?
I feel good in the knowledge that LDs will soon cacus in a Yellow Taxi!
LibDems. That’s a joke, right?
Liberal-definition:
Democratic-definition:
Conservative constituances are mostly in the more affluent commutor green belt areas,or out in the sticks,like nell’s neck of the woods,where mass immigration and cultural conflict hasn’t had any effect. The idea that the next conservative government will make any real effort to tackle the problem is laughable.They will enjoy letting labour constituances,where most immigrants live,sink into cesspits.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that!
Some of us who have suffered are not going to be quite, we will make sure things are put right! After all Labour bringing up the BNP in QT is an attempt to get the immigrant vote out. It failed and any squek from them if the tories get in will be met by a good responce!!!
An ICM poll for tomorrows News of the World confirms that the BBC’s lynch mob tactics against Griffo have backfired.
It also confirms that the Tories have the best policies on immigration being supported by 26% of respondents:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/565614/Voters-will-give-politicians-shock-wake-up-call-about-immigration-and-BNP.html
There are good and bad in all races and cultures,but the immigration policy of all previous governments hasn’t differenciated between the hard working,law abiding people who would be an asset to any nation,and the thieves,rapists,scroungers,scamsters,health tourists and chancers who seem to have no problem entering the country.
> the immigration policy of all previous governments hasn’t differenciated between
Oh immigration policy has discriminated! they discourage hard working,law abiding people who would be an asset and encourage thieves, rapists, scroungers, scamsters, health tourists and chancers
Where’s the fucking fire pal?
How do Labour voters feel now they know they have been conned by their own party for the past 12 years?
….’Huge increases in immigration over the past decade were a deliberate attempt to engineer a more multicultural Britain, a former Government adviser said yesterday.
Andrew Neather, a speechwriter who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, said Labour’s relaxation of controls was a plan to ‘open up the UK to mass migration’.
As well as bringing in hundreds of thousands to plug labour market gaps, there was also a ‘driving political purpose’ behind immigration policy, he claimed.
Ministers hoped to change the country radically and ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity’. But Mr Neather said senior Labour figures were reluctant to discuss the policy, fearing it would alienate its ‘core working-class vote’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222613/Labour-let-migrants-engineer-multicultural-UK.html#comments#ixzz0UtKCJeUY
nell, do you think you’d get away lightly calling the Iranian people a bunch of mongrels?
I couldn’t give a monkey’s if Griffin believes that the death camps were exaggerated,that Tom Jones is a poof,and freddie flintoff would make a good,non stop,single handed,round the world pedalo sailor. He gets right up the nose of Westminster.
He does seem to give them all a touch of the vapours don’t he?
Give him three tins of beans and a vindaloo,and let him loose in Brussells.
That’s what i call a mandate
I don’t want any more immigration, Guido, let’s have a thread on this Labour admission of open immigration policy.
This story has legs. Tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday:
“Jack Straw and Tony Blair ‘dishonestly’ concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural because they feared a public backlash if it was made public, it has been claimed.
The allegation was made after a former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration.
Andrew Neather, who worked for Mr Straw when he was Home Secretary, and as a speech writer for Mr Blair, claimed a secret Government report in 2000 called for mass immigration to change Britain’s cultural make-up forever.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222769/Dishonest-Blair-Straw-accused-secret-plan-multicultural-UK.html#ixzz0UtRxAlQQ
I note that Barbara Roche is mentioned in the article, as a former immigration minister. What a fucking useless waste of oxygen she was, the Jacqui Smith of her day.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222769/Dishonest-Blair-Straw-accused-secret-plan-multicultural-UK.html
Words fail me!! These people are at best mad and certainly dishonest – Was this in their Manifesto? NO! Should they have the right to undertake such a massive social engineering ‘experiment’ without a mandate?
My god history is going to have a lot to say about this bunch of ‘risk’ takers
“…..this bunch of ‘risk’ takers.”
Are you sure you don’t mean wrist shakers?
It is being reported that the UK economy has been overtaken by Italy’s. So much for Brown’s “prudent stewardship” of the nation’s finances.
Italy FFS?
de pizza business is still going strong momma mia
Those Italian tarts are tasty.
Good Morning. we get another hour of Guido today:)
Latest Poll Results:
Con: 27%
Lab:11%
Lib Dems:Who cares.
Ukip:15%Proof
Greens:Caught short,excused.
Libertytoshootintruder party:All right,all right,anything you say.
Griffo’s grinning gangsters:40% and i’d never thought i’d support such nutters,but needs must
From Ouote of the day.
Alastair Campbell remembers…
“December 5, 1996, Gallup poll. Labour 59. Tories 22. Now that’s what I call a lead. And they’re nowhere near it, because they have not sealed the deal, because they’re not serious on policy, because they haven’t changed much, and because a lot of people don’t really like them.”
We don’t care how big the margin, as long as you traitorous bastards are kicked out on your arses next year.
So we can get those honest,trustworthy,sell your arse down the EU river,Conservatives in.
Ever get the feeling you’ve been had?
many a facking time lad many a facking time
“So we can get those honest,trustworthy,sell your arse down the EU river,Conservatives in.”
OK, lets keep keep this freakshow of a government in power and let them sell our arses down the EU river, with the added bonus of economic ruin.
The freakshow will continue,but with a new troupe of intellectual dwarves,specially bussed in from eton.
Being kicked out is not enough. This isn’t a game (or is it?).
There should be serious legal/tax implications for these twats. And for the likes of Bliar/Camp-bell/Mandy/Gordoom – Nuremburgh should be beckoning.
EXPLOSIVE
A close friend of the prime minister who lives with her husband in a £1.5m house in London has claimed £230,000 in expenses by saying a flat in Glasgow is her main home.
Baroness Goudie (Goudie of Roundwood in the London Borough of Brent), a Labour donor and fundraiser, has lived since childhood in London where her two sons grew up and her husband works as a leading barrister.
However, the baroness tells the Lords her main address is 400 miles away in a Glasgow apartment block. A close neighbour said she had not seen Goudie there for some time. ”
“She is a trustee of Sarah Brown’s charity”
“Her husband James is a QC who worked in the same London chambers as Blair and Derry Irvine”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6889016.ece
It’s gone beyond a joke. If Griffin promises to stage mass hangings in Parliament Square,he could clean up.
What a shocker.
“The Scottish Industry Forum is a New Labour friendly business organisation chaired by Baroness Goudie. It was set up in 1995 as part of the campaign by the Labour party to cosy up to big business. This was one of the key mechanisms by which Labour proved to big business that it was no longer a threat and attempted to raise funding from the corporations thus lessening their dependence on the trade Unions. In 2008 it emerged that the Forum was being used to covertly bankroll the campaign of Wendy Alexander.”
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Scottish_Industry_Forum
Fancy that …
Ex-minister Tony McNulty faces suspension after claiming £14,000-a-year expenses for parents’ home
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222799/Tony-McNulty-faces-suspension-claiming-14-000-year-expenses-parents-home.html#ixzz0Uu7lbCPF
What a piss-weak gesture! It should be imprisonment and seizure of assets – right across the parties. Don’t increase the burden on the already overstretched prison system, use an old quarry and lots of razor wire to create a ‘Trougher’s Pit’.
Have a Turkey for xmas. If they’re in short supply,we’re doing a special on a negroid,dwarf variety known in Kabul as the kerismass kerow. Small,tasty and a bugger to throttle,it’s best marinaded in a blend of garlic and opium yak oil,and given the taliban treatment of hacking off all extremeties,before plunging into a pit and cooked slowly by repeated applications of hot stonings,until it stops squawking.
Bootiful!
LOL you give blogging a break and all hell breaks lose , griffin clearly had an unfair question time , I thought it was supposed to be topical debate ! best bit for me was Hains appearenence on NN , which he quickly re hashed for breakfast news decalaring “the B&p a fascist organasition who shouldnt be allowed air time ” CW fell out of the sofa mmmmmmmm hold on aminute isnt that the sort of statement a fascist makes , it just exposed the view that labour clearly thinks theres a right form of democracy and a wrong one wich they have to apply meds to and treat differently.
kelvin mckenzie hit the nail on the head that labour should have to prosecute B&P voters as its there fault he got elected !!
meanwhile over the Atlantic Obama declares emergency on swine flu And over hear it appears in David Cameron article that he is still astonished labour are crap and that there polcies have caused more damage than necessary. One for the final chapter of Labour biography “the deepest recession since records began ” add to it the first run on bank for 140 years and the worst speaker for 300 years and it must be gold medals all round then !
Andrew pravda has a new series and has decided to look at the turn of the last century to make a balanced presentation of socialism (yeah right), never quite gets round to asking where the money comes from though that progressed other apsects of society , who authorised precotts northerners vs southerners political program which highlighted some interesting viewpoints but failed to mention how under labour so much manufacturing had gone to make the ruins end to boom and bust (Cw has renamed it as credit boom and imports hidden within rising commodity prices and elarged client state beauracy ).
funny old world , saw a loverly kestrel who just kept perching 6ft away from my window before finding its next vole and a late night tawny owl who kept rabitt population down , and a loverly group of swans although looks like all twitcher action is up in tyneside this weekend !
What I would like to know is…
Since this government was so very, very keen, to conspire to fill our country up with immigrants, why did they then refuse the Ghurkas entry?
Anyone but the Ghurkas it seems.
Maybe they are frightened, that come the revolution, the Ghurkas will join the English nationals on the streets, in an effort to defend their country.
I’m sure that well known spineless, conchy, Jack Straw will be bricking it, at the thought of finding himself on the wrong end of a Kukri!
Very well point
Guardian hacked
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6889396.ece
The Guardian warned users of its jobs website last night that their personal details might have been stolen by hackers.
Guardian Jobs, which has 1.4m users a month and stores the CVs of a wide range of professionals, including public-sector workers, told users it was the victim of a “sophisticated and deliberate hack”. They were advised by e-mail to contact an agency that helps the victims of identity fraud.
The security breach was detected on Friday and is being investigated by the Metropolitan police.
A spokeswoman for Guardian News & Media said: “We are committed to protecting the privacy of our users and are treating this situation with the utmost seriousness.”
Oh dear. The Guardian technology correspondent was encouraging people to hack the BMP’s website in his blog on Friday!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/oct/23/you-decide-hacking-political-website
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6424110/MPs-expenses-wives-demand-watering-down-of-ban-on-family-members.html
they cannot keep their hands out of the till.
Why is Cameron waiting until Monday before commenting on Labour’s scandalous deception on the British people?
He has to check the cleaners passport and print out some wage receipts to make sure he’s covered.
Why is Cameron waiting until Monday before commenting on Labour’s scandalous deception on the British people?
Answer-he’s having difficulty getting the shit to go through his new dyson?
Race is not the issue. Mass cultural influence is.
Nell, give up with the naive integrationist propaganda.
I don’t want to integrate with a load of muslims, Somalis, Sierra Leonians etc and they don’t want to integrate with me.
What we have is not “multi-cultural enrichment” but Balkanisation which, in many areas is already spilling over into violence.
Mass immigration is not working and will never work.
GEDDIT?
Nell to put it into way way you may understand,it’s called ethnic cleansing of the white English,that’s what Liebour are trying to do,we are an Island race and we have seaports and we have had people coming going and staying here for centuries not a problem,the problem is Liebour using all the races in the world to fill up this country just so they can piss off the right wing,that is treason.
Nell. With respect because you probably live in a traditional environment but there are a growing number of towns, cities and counties which are changing from being ‘traditional and traditionally cultural to being ‘alien’ to the indiginous population. Your point about Griffin’s ancestory is irrelevent. Does he follow england or welsh teams? does he marvel at a flypast by the battle of britain wing?
Get the drift? does he spit and chant hatred to British squaddies? I’ve no time for the b&p but your argument is irrational. We are an island with limited capacity.
We should go back to how it was: Do we need you or do you need us? What do you contribute to our society when you apply to come here? They say they are applying these conditions now but these don’t apply to europeans.
Integrationist policies? Oh, ffs – stick to the geneaology luv , you’re about as practical as a chocolate teapot. Humans are tribal and always will be so save your well meaning, we’re all members of the human race tosh for your next sociology lecture.
Spot on. Great comments and educational links tonight.
Minitruth neither race nor cultural influence is the issue .
What really matters are honesty, decency, hardwork, personal values and our family commitments.
And the truth is those values are fairly constant across religious divides.
Yeah-like caravans and transit vans on cricket pitches
Absolutely. After all, there are no differences in academic and economic performances between blacks and orientals. And as we all know, Nigeria is as accomplished as Japan.
Yeah-we need more dentists.
You’re either a naive idiot, Nell, or a Labour troll. Either way, you’re a waste of space and not worth reading.
Agree with Burnley Fan. I don’t mind going to an indian resturant but I don’t want the whole High Street looking like a new Delhi market. What happened to planning permission? I opened a shop a few years ago and they had an issue with the sign illumination. OK-fare enough I changed it.
I’m neither naive, nor an idiot nor a labour troll.
I’m a tory voter. I believe in real, caring, hardworking, family oriented people.
I don’t judge people by their colour or by their religion .
I judge them by their values and I expect them, if they are living here in England alongside me to be respecting the same English values that I do.
That rules beanpea out because their nazi values are not my english values.
“I’m neither naive, nor an idiot nor a labour troll.I’m a tory voter.”
Three out of four isn’t bad.
I’m afraid it’s that fact that the Tories now attract people like Nell that turns me right off Cameron. She’s an SDP entryist who’s trying to adversely influence the Conservatives with her “one world ” bullshit. Naive and dangerous in equal measures.
With respect Nell, they are not exactly the tories values either, are they? To be fair!
Nope I think griffen describes him perfectly!!
This fenwoman is off to bed.
‘Night.
Labour under fire. This is from tomorrow’s Mail on Sunday….
“Jack Straw and Tony Blair ‘dishonestly’ concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural because they feared a public backlash if it was made public, it has been claimed.
The allegation was made after a former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration.
Andrew Neather, who worked for Mr Straw when he was Home Secretary, and as a speech writer for Mr Blair, claimed a secret Government report in 2000 called for mass immigration to change Britain’s cultural make-up forever.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222769/Dishonest-Blair-Straw-accused-secret-plan-multicultural-UK.html#ixzz0UtRxAlQQ
Nicht Nicht Nell
Nell, Don’t forget to take your mogadon, dimbo.
Nell’s not simple. Allthough she did have a small part in the film “Deliverance” which was in actual fact shot on location in the Fens.
Not a lot of people know that.
Was Nell the banjo player?
Cameron is going on the attack on Monday.
O no not The Mail,that tory right wing nonsense of a paper. I am so worried by The Mail when will the curtains stop twitching. The Mail should go on strike,Down with The Mail.
is that with handbags
Mr Cameron. Will you be doing anything to address the immigration storm?
“We won’t. Let matters rest. There.
Truth is ’screw’ if beanpea got into power most of us would get thrown out of Britain , including lots of their own supporters, if family history were used as a bench mark.
The truth about the nazi’s is that many of their supporters had hidden jewish links, including Hitler.
Fascism is an evil that doesn’t focus on the good in the human race it thrives on violence, weakness and fear.
Nell-where is the support in thses threads for the B&P? I can’t detect any.
Who cares,nell? The truth is the nations finished.The only amusement is to be found in those deluded souls that still cling to the hope “That something must be done”.
Are you feeling right in the head Nell or is it all that inbreeding in the Fens?
It’s just that you seem obsessed with people’s “family history” as you so quaintly call it, when the issue is Labour’s covert operation to flood the country with mass immigration.
Do you understand, or has the mogadon kicked in?
take a drive to Bradford, then saunter over to Rochdale, while there drive to Oldham, end of
There’s a listed 16th C cottage down the lane. It was dilapidated when the old lady died and lots of the sales fell through over the past 4 years… however a couple bought it eventually and we watched in bemusement as work started then stopped and then started again — the problem was the buyers would agree a sum with the builder and then not pay them for the work so all work would stop while a fresh builder was found. This has happened no less than 3 times.
Another problem was that the owners seemed to be under the impression that they could circumvent the listed building rules and do things on the cheap. We couldn’t understand why they didn’t understand what renovating a listed building entailed until we found out they were Asians.
The house is more or less finished but they’ve removed all the trees, uprooted the hedge and the front garden is quite indescribable — for over 2 years, plastic cement bags, uprooted tree stumps, piles of subsoil and a ditch full of stagnant green water from the septic tank overflow have remained exactly the same with no attempt whatsoever made to tidy it all up. I know for a fact that if anyone in the neighbourhood complained, we’d get a visit from the police to interrogate us for racism, so nobody says a word.
Perhaps we should all ignore poor old Nell. The more attention she gets, the more gibberish she seems to spout.
The sad old witch hasn’t had many gigs since she played the banjo in Deliverence and all this attention now seems to be going to her head.
We’re not inbred in the Fens and we don’t take Mogadon.
We leave those things to the townies.
What we do out here is judge each person, not by their colour or their religion, but by their decency and their honesty.
It’s called multi-cultural enrichment and you’re supposed to celebrate it not complain about it.
Ask old Nelly, she’ll put you straight or are you one of them nasty beanpea types with a chequered family history?
You paint a depressing picture Susie. It’s the same if you parked your caravan on a cricket pitch and invited your mates along to defecate and litter it. Untouchable but you will be if you complain about it. Either you will be threatened with home burning or the police will do you for racism.
I think we’re talking pikeys, here.
From a distance?
We’re talking cultural shocks I think?
Night nell.
Night Jim Bob.
Night Grandma.
Night Jim Bob’s cousin,Mrs Jim Bob.
Night nell.
Night Uncle.Get over your side of the bed.
ha ya got a loight boy?
sure thart werent Lord Fondlebum ringing up and asking
“Have you got a white boy?
Looking for a change from the full Brazilian
for nell