+++ Shock Figures Show UK In Worst Ever Recession +++
From Reuters:
The Office for National Statistics said British gross domestic product fell by 0.4 percent between July and September, meaning the economy has contracted for six successive quarters for the first time since records began in 1955.
This was much worse than analysts’ expectations of a 0.2 percent rise. Not a single analyst out of the 35 polled by Reuters before the data had expected a negative reading.
This is now the longest recession since records began. Despite the Prime Mentalist’s lies that Britain is “best placed to weather the global turbulence” it looks increasingly like Britain will be the last G7 country out of recession…
Broon and Labour really do believe they are doing a fine job.
They are not just wrong – they are nuts.
And NOT 1 question was asked on the recession on Question Time last night.
Proof, if you need it that the BBC selected audience was the most biased selection ever. Not one of them was interested in the economy, their jos, wages, bankers bonuses and MPs expenses.
Economic questions would be a no go with the BNP on the BBC. It might give away the fact their economics are leftist and scare the horses.
At least you leftie bastards could TRY to ask a decent question. Your behaviour has only served to help the BNP. What are YOUR policies – free love, benefits for all, smack and crack on the NHS – what are they? Don’t know? Vote Labour then!
Now that the BBC has openly come out against the B&P and set up and televised what can only be described a Lynch mob , I am inclined to vote B&P on principle. I suspect that I am not alone in this view.
correct
Sorry, I meant to type incorrect.
The BN P are nazis.
The pre-programme hype and the set-up of the programme itself had nothing to with Question Time’s falling viewing figures, of course.
Ask David Duke about lynching.
Brown to Cameron: Wrong on the recession and wrong on the recovery. Yeah right. Please can somebody save us from Brown, where is a Lee Harvey Oswald when you want them.
You 100% sure this isn’t what the BBC want?
My gut feeling is that BBC in attempting to create such a song and dance is subconsciously without realizing it rooting for the BNP. Perhaps the course of action the BBC has taken will have the opposite effect of what was intended and create more disharmony, conflict and grief. In this case it would have been better not to act at all.
The BBC and BNP are so alike in many respects it frightens me. Both organizations (BBC/BNP) are leftist, statist, and tribalist. The BBC are far more skilled in concealing their bias and prejudice, dressing it up as social justice and all manner of isms.
Both organizations try to stir up conflict imaginary trouble between groups (rich/poor, black/white) when in reality there is usually none.
Spoke to a few folks to-day here ‘Up North’! mainly neighbours.
All had watched the B&P leader being rounded upon.
Whilst they all thought he was objectionable, they all felt the biggest issue in the programme wasStraws enthusiasm for more immigration.
And all said they are considering voting very differently at the GE.
@ I do not like bullies
You would vote for the BNP on the principle that you dont like small groups (sometimes known as ‘minorities’) being picked on by bigger ones?
Am I missing somehting here?
I know what you are missing, a bloody brain.
Nick explains
OOH HOW DRAMATIC.
YOU ALSO KNOW IT’S TOTALLY INCORRECT.
Has usury nothing to do with economics?
Debt should only be used on investments that yield more than the interest. A good example would be say borrowing to pay for an educational course that awards a BSc(Hons).
Using debt to fund consumption kills the economy (See Gordon Brown 1997-2010)
Like kicking out all the illegals in jail or telling Europe to F off they are not getting any more of our money, or telling immigrants if you have not put in you can’t get out.
Like those dumb ideas would not save us billions,and before you ask….Europe are flogging there home manufactured goods to us,hence them coming out of recession before us.They MAKE things!
Europe REALLY does need us more than we need them.
On educating our kids with REAL British history, teaching them maths,reading & writing NOT about gay/lesbian relationships in primary school FFS! Leave sex education to high school.
On crime, punishing the guilty, NOT the victim. The death penalty for child murderers/molesters.
Now there’s a few brownie points for old Griffin.
I am sick to death of the namby pamby,can’t say/do/think that brigade!
Left-right-fascists-racists-Labour-tory-lib dem-ukip-bnp?Who really gives a shit so long as the eventual next government does what the people who elected them want.
So far the main contenders are crap & too busy spending our taxes on themselves or calling each other names. We are in the BIGGEST hole EVER in the history of EVER and with hand on heart can you HONESTLY see ANY of them ACTUALLYdoing anything remotely useful to GET US OUT OF IT???
Labour will always be useless at running the country.
Lib Dems will always be also rans
Conservatives have got to get their finger out and TELL me EXACTLY what they WILL do.What they are ‘looking into’ or ‘would like to do’ is not going to continue to give them my vote.
The clock is ticking..tick..tock..
Sell! Sell! Sell! – Fat shortarse Nazi’s
Buy! Buy! Buy! – Brown’s Removal Van Company
The Inquisition
US and Spain still in recession.
So that makes it all right then, does it? You really are an imbecile, MB.
What’s right is right, what’s wrong is wrong.
Guidiot the Oaf is wrong to say that UK will be last out of recession.
Conservitudes, wrong on recession, wrong on recovery.
Spain is not a member of the G7. Once again Master Bator’s tractor stats are exposed for the fiction they are.
Yup, it’s all Thatcher’s fault. Nothing to with Labour. Brown’s a genius. All is well. No more boom and bust. Tractor production up 15%. Welcome to utopia.
MB is right us and Spain still in recession!
The US of A and Spain also still in recession
Thanks for clearing that up MB, wouldn’t want to misquote you.
Guido said:
it looks increasingly like Britain will be the last G7 country out of recession…
But you mistakenly quoted him as saying:
is wrong to say that UK will be last out of recession.
and included the basket case Spain as an example of why Guido was wrong. But Spain is not in the G7. Google it.
That leaves only the US. I think it is a fair bet that they will beat us out of recession.
Full of pasties and pizzas and doughnuts has a problem. Whether or not Spain is in the G7, the UK is not the last G7 country in recession.
There that’s not so hard is it?
2008 GDP stats
1 United States 14,204,322
2 Japan 4,909,272
3 China 4,326,187
4 Germany 3,652,824
5 France 2,853,062 a
6 United Kingdom 2,645,593
7 Italy 2,293,008
8 Brazil 1,612,539
9 Russian Federation 1,607,816
10 Spain 1,604,174
11 Canada 1,400,091
A list of GDPs for one year only? What the fuck does that tell anyone except that the GDP is also a product of the population size?
You need at least two sets of numbers to do a comparison of growth or shrinkage.
Jeez I give up.
Phil,
Debating economics with a marxist is like debating plate tectonics with a flat-earther.
Full of pasties and pizzas and doughnuts, why so thick?
The single year GDP figures are there to show the relative sizes of GDP. that’s all. Spain is a substantial economy, with GDP in 2008 about 60% the size of the UK. Similarly the UK is a substantial economy, with GDP in 2008 about 72% of Germany.
Aunty Zit, it’s not a Marxist issue.
That’s all
MB – Bungling Brown said he had eliminated boom and bust, then when the bust came BB said we were best placed to weather the recession. Both are proved to be false. Brown cannot personally cope with the fact that his socialism is an abject failure – the worst government debt since fighting WW2 and the worst recession since the 1930s. Brown is a joke and every defence of him undermines Labour.
No it’s a Trotskyite issue
US Q3 09 GDP due next Thursday. Expected to show +2.5 to +3.5% according to Bloomberg poll on 14-Oct. Just the UK then. Hmm. You may go
Who will be the first Labour hoon to spin with?
If you round the figure up so there is no decimal its a 0% increase.!!!
Gordon was right etc……
Quite right MB we are definitely “best placed to weather the global turbulence”. Its just that you and I are the only ones to recognise this!
Never mind, we did abolish boom and bust.
Oh and by the way, just like that Nancy Griffin, I too am disgusted when I see men kissing in public! There’s too much of it especially on Saturdays. It even happens at Raith Rovers occasionally!
An another thing MB. Did YOU know that tosser Straw’s old man was a yellow bellied coward who refused to fight the nazis. That was a surprise, a bit of hypocrite our Jack isn’t he!
Conscientious objectors are brave and were brave.
God is Truth is Love
Shares in Ginga nuts have slipped constantly since 1997.
Apparently nobody can ever take them seriously.
You are utterly shameless MB, just like your mentor Alistair Campbell. You are an uncritical supporter of a government that has taken us into two illegal and poorly-managed wars, yet you pretend to be sympathetic to conscientious objectors in a war that had more moral justification than any before or since. I bet Straw’s Jewish maternal ancestors were chuffed at the thought that their son-in-law would rather go to jail than fight the Nazis.
Mongrel,
Pacifists are not cowards
Conscientious objectors are not cowards
Cowards come in all shapes and sizes and frequently in military uniform, because it’s so exciting innit.
God is Truth is Love
Dear Mr Hitler,
We would be frightfully grateful if you wouldn’t mind not being so beastly to the Jews. Would you mind terribly if you stopped gassing them? And please, we would be awfully glad if you removed your shock troops from Poland, France, Ukraine, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Holland, Belgium, Austria, Norway et al. One last teensy weensy request, if we may? Please please please don’t invade Britain. Having watched you murder millions in Europe, we’d be, well, miffed if you did it here.
Ta very much,
yours sincerely,
Jack Straw’s very brave dad.
In 2009, the British GDP is about 56% that of Germany given the collapse and the 28% drop in sterling. This demonstates that the 2008 figure was flattering being based on inflated asset values which had pushed up exchange rate indicators. (Typical ponzi)
Britons are half as wealthy per capita than Germans and that includes the 18 million rescued from socialism in the GDR.
Definition of recession is, ‘… a fall in GDP for two successive quarters …’, not a big deal really, we will be in and out of recession for years to come due to the severe underlying problems with the economy, i.e. running successive deficit economies since 2001, an enormous National Debt it’s true magnitude hidden by ‘off balance sheet’ items hidden deep within the bowels of HM Treasury.
Pacifism is a lazy free ride, since it presumes other poor saps with less refined sensibilities will go and do the dirty work instead.
A wholly pacifist society would be wiped out (or dominated) by the first psychopath with a sharpened stick who happens upon it.
So Jack-Straws-Dad has to answer the question why other people should go and kill and die, so that he can strike a moralistic pose.
Pacifism brave? Don’t make me vomit.
And whilst we’re in BBC rant mode:
Will they stop reporting that “the government” and has pumped money into the economy and that the recession would have been worse without it.
The independent Bank of England has pumped money into the econonomy, not the government. OK, Darling had to give permission for QE but Osborne said he would have too.
Independent means independent.
So, please, cut the propaganda.
Osborne is Dave’s weakest link
‘Osborne is Dave’s weakest link’?
Brown,Darling & Co are Labour’s weakest links.
How smart is that for us?
IF!!!! Osborne is the Tory’s weakest link(which I doubt) BRING ON THE TORY’S!!!!!!!
Labour eh? the best thing for Britain since the bloody Hovis loaf!!!!
The Bank of England is NOT independent, NEVER was. It is also stuffed full of Gordon Brown yes men. The interest rates were set between Gordon and Mervyn King and the rest of the New Labour sycophants.
Now that New Labour look like they are on the way out, Mervyn is trying to rebadge himself as the banker who knows what to do… where was he for the other 12 years of New Labour? Being quiet is where he was.
It has private share holders, they get the profit and you get the debt created by goverment expenditure.
Browns yes men are actualy the people giving brown his instructions/advice, time to get with reality i think.
PLEASE random moonbat,
That’s just not true.
For God’s sake, Random Moonbat, the Bank of England does NOT have private shareholders. It was nationalised in 1946 and is 100% owned by the government.
Technically correct Id. However, the BoE has a special subsidiary that is exempt most corporate reporting requirements, and to which I take it moonbat was referring.
FAG !
Looks like the Sun suspects the BBC of rigging the Question Time audience
DO YOU KNOW THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS WHO GAVE GRIFFIN A GRILLING? CALL US ON 0207 782 4104.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2694537/Nick-Griffin-is-jeered-on-BBC-Question-Time.html
> And they erupted in fury when he branded wartime leader Sir Winston Churchill Islamophobic.
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property‹either as a child, a wife, or a concubine ‹must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled ‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
Winston Churchill, The River War.
Hmmm. No great fan of Islam, Churchill, and as perceptive and correct as ever.
As for Straw’s “we won WW2 because of asians and the commonwealth”…
a) it was the Empire not the Commonwealth
b) Sikh regiments in Hong Kong went over to the Japs upon invasion and served as prison guards (and very cruel ones too) over European internment camps
c). it was the Soviets which forced the Germans into retreat in Europe and no asians or blacks were in the Red Army.
I suspect there were quite a few Asians in the Soviet Army take a look at a map. The Soviet Union covered a lot of territory.
Asians stopped Hitler’s advance on Moscow.
It was a Kazakh regiment, they came up with a combo of two or three grenades strapped together to stop the Panzers.
Immortalised in a huge memorial with an eternal flame in what was their capital, Alma Ata, now called Almaty.
I’ve seen it.
Interesting to see that the majority of Sun “readers” were – rightly or wrongly – sympathetic towards Griffin in their comments. Looks rather as if the Beeb’s hatchet job has somewhat backfired!
Not many Sun readers in the QT audience I’ll bet.
All Guardian readers, public sector workers, or students of the middle class.
One or two individuals who do not normally wear suits. That bloke who asked if Griffin had travelled much and his two mates (one called him “Dick” Griifin) all got to ask questions.
I happen to have the missfortune to liver close to Hull where QT was held the prvious Thursday. One thing I can tell you is I don’t know where they got the audience but they sure as hell were not reprisentative of your average Hull scrote.
W.W.
The BBC are just amateurs…. you should see me in action.
Agreed last nights QT was a bread and circuses show,a distraction from the soon to be entered Copenhagen treaty ,remember browns fifty days to save the planet?
This treaty from what my humble brain translates into the Birth of the new world Goverment as well as impoverishing everyone with new carbon taxes.Something so life changing should be getting a lot more attention than it is.
Well look at the brightside. Congestion charges in Every CITY should help the climate and get the money rolling in for extra ACA for our Parliamentarians.
Roll it out to Towns and Villages and we will have the debt problem under control in no time.
Won’t cost the tax – payer a penny!! Just those evil Internal Combustion Engine users!!
Seemples!
Last night it emerged that:
Complaints that the show was biased against Mr Griffin outnumbered by more than two to one those about him being allowed to appear;
Some of the audience appear to have been rushed through the vetting process in a bid to emphasise the multi-cultural nature of London;
Audience members were briefed to ask ‘provocative’ questions and host David Dimbleby told them it was acceptable to boo;
More than eight million people tuned in – four times the usual audience and more than watched Strictly Come Dancing last week;
The BNP boasted that since Mr Griffin’s appearance, 3,000 people had registered to sign up as members;
Joel Weiner, 17, who dramatically confronted Mr Griffin about Holocaust denial, said he applied to attend a Question Time programme more than a year ago, but was approached just 24 hours before filming.
stage-managing Question Time
The whole QT/BΝP affair has shown the BBC in a disgraceful light.
Rater than allowing Griffn as an elected representative to scrutinised and exposed properly, QT descended to the level of kangaroo court. The Beeb ensured that nothing at all happened that might allow the perceptions of the BΝP’s supporters or opponents to be changed. Car-crash TV, and a waste of time.
Worse yet, despite a senior member of the Govt being present, the BBC gave Straw the luxury of giving no account whatsoever for the ongoing state of economic collapse, terrifying levels of debt, woeful mis-management of all aspects of the Afghan occupation etc.
The country is falling to pieces. It’s Labour’s fault. Serious politicians should be answering serious questions. The BBC wants instead to preoccupy us with the circus-ring antics of Griffin and his ramshackle bunch of morons.
Crap.
No sign of Labour on TV. The must be drawing lots for who has to explain this. Or maybe they’ve all run away. If Cameron pushes open the door of No10 he might find they’ve all gone and a left a note saying “sorry”
Might well be empty but one thing is for sure – there will be no note saying “sorry” from this bunch of inept arseholes
Correct. The note is far more likely to say ‘har di har’.
Or ‘it was the right thing to do’
W.W.
And, do you mind paying these bills for us.
or no furniture having done a midnight flit.
++ Brown seen leaving Downing Street shortly before dawn, whistling nervously and wearing dark glasses and a false beard.
Was there Tumbleweed blowing in the background?
Was he going on one of his famous jogs?
Are you saying Sarah isn’t his real beard?
No comment.
Slipped into the night to buy some chocolate biscuits for those “midnight cabinet” feasts we have heard rumours of.
It is a trick. Come the election campaign the figures will be magically revised to show that labour is doing ever so well with the economy.
Cameron better get in there quick – I wouldn’t put it past Brown to have put the place on the market… expect to see a Foxtons sign outside during Toenails next broadcast.
++LEASE FOR SALE ++
UK plc
One VERY irresponsible owner, the place has been into the ground. Needs extensive restructuring work. Has nice views from Dover (so long as you can’t see Sangate and Calais).
++++
Before bidding, please check the lease conditions, UK plc is owned lock stock by Brussels. This will limit what you can have, and affects which MEP’s you need to bribe.
The other 26 EU franchises are NOT available for sale.
You should be a guest on Mock The Week.
Ireland and Iceland have already been bought.
We can offer a self-certified 100% mortgage to enable you to RELEASE EQUITY TRAPPED IN UK plc!
Typical monthly payment: £ All your pensions (payable in USD, please!)
Final payment: £ Your souls (due Doomsday, which might be sooner than you think).
Actually all the clever clogs analysts did not predict this either,they said that growth had come back at 0.2%. Howard Davies ex head of the FSA said on last week’s Question Time that he didn’t understand the crisis so what hope for us if the analysts get it so wrong. Easy to blame Brown and Darling but the issue is far more complex than that. No one knows what is going on. If the Tories say they can do better,they are at best mis-guided and at worse telling porky pies.
The damage started years ago when our manufacturing base was whittled away.
The ONLY way we can get long term economic recovery is via an efficient and vibrant private sector. At the moment this is being stifled by an bloated public sector.
Its not Labours fault. The recession was caused by irresponsible lending in the US. were it not for Brown and Darlings actions, we would be in a far more perilous state. They will be getting on with governing and repairing the country. The real danger which the BBC constantly fail to report is that Britain appears to be sleep-walking towards a tory government. That said Opinion polls should not be taken as gospel and as long as GB secures a small majority, he can use his majority in the HofL to help push through further measures which will continue to repair our economy and society.
Nurse! We’ve found another one out of his straitjacket!
Curtains !!
Brown in an effort to raise more revenue is to tax brains – Rory to get a rebate.
You should do stand-up.
I think he has already started
I really do hope, for your mental health, that your post is sarcasm.
Labour voted out:
1931 – total economic meltdown. People are workless and hungry. Country on the verge of takeover by Communists or Fascists. Baldwin’s Tory government reverses planned cuts in the dole and leads the country out of the Great Depression.
1951 – rationing, shortages, austerity, power cuts, millions still homeless or living in slums. Churchill’s government ends rationing, shortages and austerity, gets the economy moving again, buldings hundreds of thousands of houses and moves towards the age of ‘you’ve never had it so good.’
1970 – inflation and unemployment rising, the £ devalued, industry uncompetitive. Heath’s government tries to improve matters but is destroyed by a serious of politically-motivated strikes.
1979 – inflation and unemployment rising rapidly, rubbish rotting in the streets, the dead unburied, near-anarchy. Thatcher’s government makes the country work again, wins the Cold War, defeats vested interests and creates a new modern economy, copied around the world.
2010?
I wouldnt count on Labour being voted out. Brown is steadily improving in the polls as people realise that he is the man for the job. Cameron is a novice. GB’s brilliant conference speech will prove to be a watershed moment. He kept it straight about the situation and outlined how his government will deal with it whilst improving the already excellent public services available under Labour. People are waking up to the fact that we need experienced economic hands at the helm not dave and boy george!
We are building lots of tractors but no one is buying them
Ref 1979
Dragged formally nationalised industries into real commercial world. Did not create enough realistic sustainable jobs
Cameron’s Blue Labour does the same as New Labour, and the fuckup continues.
Matron! Rory is out of bed again!
Why is it that the Royal Mail, a National Industry and subsidised by the taxpayer.
Is having these ongoing disputes. The CWU have contributed £5m since 2001 to the Labour Party.
We have a Labour administration, and they can’t sort this out with their sponsors?
In the worst Economic Enviroment since the turn of the last Century, the critical service is being disrupted affecting the existing business’s.
Are we heading for yet another Winter of Discontent?
Unions=labour=Chaos
Call the men in white coats. Incredible to think there are twats out there who fall for this ‘it’s not our fault’ shit. The fact that irresponsible lending in the US contributed does not make it the sole cause. Lending practices in the UK were equally slack – if not, why the withdrawl of 100% mortgages etc. Indebtedness here was allowed to grow to unsustainable levels.
Just fucking incredible.
Rory could you please explain yourself better so that I can correct you??
Fucktard Rory says:
“right wing because he has clearly just swallowed whatever ‘information’ Murdochs press have presented. They have a shady right wing and anti Labour agenda. Thankfully the British people will end up seeing through this at election time.”
That’s very funny sunshine. You really are a total loon aren’t you. The Common Purpose neuro-linguistic programmers have done a really good job on you.
I can assure, I don’t touch any of that filthy Murdoch shite or indeed any other mainstream media publication or TV brainwashing channel. God blessed me with the ability TO THINK, something you are clearly incapable of doing beyond what is implanted in your rotten little brain by dangerous socialist zealots.
UKDebtSlave
you need to let the anger out. It is blinding you to the truth. Dave will not save you old chap. Gordon will. Globally he is seen as a leading statesman, and as a man who’s policies are worth following.
Yeah, right, let’s follow the man that said “no more boom and bust”. Bungler Brown is away with the fairies.
Nah course it wasn’t son
8 x salary mortgages in the UK was all the Americans’ fault.
Insanely low interest rates for nearly a whle decade was all the American’s fault.
All those TV property porn programmes encouraging people to buy property they couldn’t afford with funny money was the Americans’ fault
Vast public sector expenditure that the nation could never afford was the Americans’ fault.
Fighting hugely expensive wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was all America’s fault and there’s no way we could have refused to aid and abet their imperialism.
Turning our country into a CCTV surveillance state was all the American’s fault.
Flushing our ancient liberties and freedoms down the toilet was the Americans’ fault
Taxing ordinary people into serfdom and fiddling their expenses was all the Americans’ fault
You utter ignorant piece of shit.
Get back to kindergarten you fucking prick
calm down ukdebt slave. In between the right wing ranting, your list does include a relevant point;
“Flushing our ancient liberties and freedoms down the toilet was the Americans’ fault”
Sadly for you it was Majors government which signed up to the Maastricht treaty (I believe it was Francis “my expenses claims fell within the rules” Maude who actually signed the document). Ever since high ranking Labour politicians have led the fightback to prevent us losing sovereignty. This will culminate when Tony Blair (amongst the greatest PM’s this country has seen) is made President of Europe.
Rory, please explain how UK debt slaves rant is right wing?
Rory,
You are so delusional it’s scary. What are you smoking? Who’s your dealer?
None of the other EU states want Blair – dream on Rory you sad, deluded and incredibly silly little boy.
right wing because he has clearly just swallowed whatever ‘information’ Murdochs press have presented. They have a shady right wing and anti Labour agenda. Thankfully the British people will end up seeing through this at election time.
Anti Citizen One says:
October 23, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Rory,
You are so delusional it’s scary. What are you smoking? Who’s your dealer?
I dont smoke – I am just not fooled by the press biased towards dave and co.
My dealers are ICAP. I reccommend them.
Thanks for the explanation Rory, crock of shite though it is. Murdochs shady right wing agenda suited Tony and Gordon’s New Labour project at the time didn’t it? You fucking spanner.
Rory, Gordon Brown at H.M. Treasury and Alan Greenspan at the Federal Reserve were instrumental in a drastic de-regulation of the financial sector over a period of ten years. Gordon was still proclaiming the benefits of a financial free for all as late as 2007 (read his Mansion House speech).
Gordon Brown began heavy duty borrowing in 2001 and continued to run deficit economies until the present day, culminating in a huge National Debt, the full horror of it still deliberately hidden from view.
I cannot think of anyone who has done more harm to the UK than this man, and we will be living with the effects for decades to come.
they’d rather burn it than let anyone else have it
Rory must be correct. Brown is doing a fantastic job. If he wasn’t he would get sacked , wouldn’t he? And he hasn’t been sacked yet, therefore he must be brilliant. As you say, we need a safe pair of hands, preferably to enclose Brown’s neck and squeeze quite severely.
It won’t help the economy but it would make half the British Branch of this EU dependancy very happy.
The only party who can save this country is an Alliance consisting of Cable/Field/ Hague but it won’t happen so we are stuck with no-hopers until the end of time or until the money runs out.
What? It’s run out already. B*gger! Just when I was about to get my pension.
“We’re best placed to weather the global turbulence” = just as stupid as “a cure to boom and bust.”
The WORST bit of the figures was what the guy in the City said on Sky News this morning as the results were released. The private sector is either flat or still shrinking, but the PUBLIC sector is STILL expanding. How much longer can the productive sector take paying for an expanding state that produces NOTHING for the UK economy?
That is why there’s little mention of recession on QT. It doesn’t affect anyone in the studio; they’re all on the public tit.
Everyone is appalled by Griffins N,F past history. Quite correct.
And his links, however historic with the K,K,K. (Peaceful or Not!!)
Everyone glosses over the demonic rantings of the far left when they were in
extreme far left political groupings.
Would love to see the same job done on Brown and the rest of the Cabal/Coven.
Amazing but true that Mr Respect party was often deployed to calm down the outrageous Trotskyist manouvres of Alistair Darling. Imagine our George being more moderate than slug-eyes.
If anyone has free time to research these mongrels it would be interesting to compare and contrast. Frankly, I fined the hard left as nasty and objectionable as the hard right. Don’t see much difference actually.
Good to know that Jack Straws Dad was a yellow lily livered coward. Pompous prick. He is just useless and cowardly. What was Jack’s communist past?
Also I have real doubts that GB had two eye injuries in two separate Rugby matches. More like being bummed too hard in the Dormitory by all the Upper 6th.
Jack Straw refused to join the Army Cadet Force at his boarding school for which membership was compulsory. Now, one could argue that jack was being a conscientious objector but I reckon that, like his dad, he didn’t want to do anything that would the defence of the UK before the political interests of the Soviet Union. The Straw family is disgraceful and Griffin understated the case against them.
that is how we are not passing by on the other side
we are creating public sector jobs
there
that’s OK then?
In Rory’s little dreamworld, we will be able to export all our 5 a day diversity outreach advisors to China and live happily ever after!
Where has all these BILLIONS the one-eyed scots idiot and his cronies have borrowed got us?
Fucking nowhere, thats what it’s got us.
you say that, but it was the right thing to do.
thats what he keeps telling me anyway.
It was the right thing to do and we would have gone under if Brown had done nothing as the tories were advocating!
Hey Rory lad, go put the kettle on. We need some tea here in the bunker – that’s what interns do. Bring an assortment of biscuits will you, otherwise you be off to Carphone warehouse to get another Nokia
pipe down MB. If I were in the ‘bunker’ I’d be too busy helping Mr Brown to get on with the job to make tea.
we will still be going under, rory, you c’unt.
Only it will be more painful thanks to Gordon Fucking Brown and the nu-labour fuck up.
So Gordoom’s borrowing to pay for his previous borrowing is ‘the right thing to do’?
Do you know what Rory, you’re probably right. But in a capitalist society, that’s exactly what happens – people who make the wrong decisions go to the wall.
Sure, if NR, B&B, Halifax and RBS had gone bust, there would probably have been other banking casualties. And hundreds of thousands of jobs would have been lost.
But, if cpaitalism had been allowed to function, those banks that had made the right decisions would have picked up the profiable parts of those bankrupt businesses at knock down prices, taken back on a good percentage of those that had lost their jobs and the banking system would have been rebuilt. Indeed, much of the toxic assets would have been ejected out of the system and the shareholders and bondholders of the bankrupt companies taken the loss. It’s what should happen to people who make wrong investment decisions.
However, Brown decided that it was better to put over £1tn of taxpayers money at risk to keep the status quo. Nothing’s changed. the toxic assets are still there. they are still, more or less, worthless. they will turn out to be more or less worthless. And when the loss is taken, as it must, it will bring the UK economy down with it.
Going back to ‘normal’ as you’ve known it for the last 10 years is a guarantee to hit the financial buffers. It can’t happen, so it won’t happen. the debt overhang in the economy is simply demolishing demand even at record low interest rates.
Brown would have been better letting the banking sytem bust. He could then have used the trillion pound to help rebuild our manufacturing base, our research and development base and got rid of a lot of debt overhang in one go.
But Brown is incapable of doing the right thing. He can’t make the tough decisions. he’s ‘psychologically flawed’, he’s a coward, a prick. With a yellow stripe down his back. In fact, much like Jack Straw’s old man.
You are a delusional man, if you have the intelligence and reasoning skill, spend some time on the Office for National Statistics site and you might get an inkling of the hole we are in.
This is as major as a war, and currently you are batting for the other side for whatever reason, perhaps you are a paid apparichic and apologist for this ‘communist lite’ government who have clearly destroyed us economically and I
‘I’d be too busy helping Mr Brown to get on with the job to make tea’
So that’s what he does
Hasn’t the billions borrowed managed to get the UK into the “Guinness Book Of Records” yet? I mean, every month we see record breaking borrowing, record breaking government debt, GDP in the minus. SURELY the UK should have an entry into the 2009 / 2010 edition of the book?
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/register/login.aspx
per capita…??
You can buy a gun or a knife and get stabbed almost anywhere thanks to Gordons investment in importing diverse cultures.
Up a creek with a growing population and no paddle!
We are doomed I tell ye, doomed! And it is all the one eyed Scots fault!
“Despite the Prime Mentalist’s lies that Britain is “best placed to weather the global turbulence” it looks increasingly like Britain will be the last G7 country out of recession…”
McTwat told me that Mandy told him to say that…
The UK economy, first into recession, last out.
spoken like a true unionist!
Gordon waits… Gordon measures… Gordon decides to take measures against the weather… I called him King Lear.
Look up lear in a decent English (aren’t they all?) dictionary. For instance
lear /lI/ n.3L15. [Perh. extended use of LAIR n.1 6.] Colour (of sheep or cattle) due to the nature of the soil.
But that’s not the only meaning. Look up leer too. And liar if the penny hasn’t already dropped.
All 35 analyst’s who predicted an increase do not live in the real world. I think they need to get out more often and visit small business and then the High Street’s in each and every town up and down the country and then tell us the recession is over. WTF pays these people who know nothing!!! Labour is killing this country and that is fact.
The “analysts” sit inside the “castle” with their bubble walls of printed money.
Money represents the economy, yet they measure money AS the economy. No wonder they get their forecasts so mixed up.
They should remember to always discount changes in debt from economic growth. With that, we get the true and scary real fall in the economy.
Too true. It is what happens when you try and “manage” anything from behind a desk. And the more distant you are from the physicality the more you are dealing in abstract theory and not reality.
Perhaps you should have listened to Darling as he said the other day we wouldn’t be out of recession this quarter – but that would stop you having something to moan about
Hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs and their houses, so you think there’s nothing to moan about? Only a year ago Darling forecast a recession of -1.25 percent – that is now impossible. Darling was wrong on his growth (ie contraction) and inflation prophecies as recently as the budget in April. In fact I do not know of a single forecast he has made that has been right.
Live NOW BBC radio 4
Any questions (vastly superior to Question time)
Nadine Dorries v Jacqui Smith
I must agree with the Daily Telegraph that one phrase guaranteed to make me reach for the shotgun is “Peter Mandelson, Business Secretary”. If he did indeed personally scupper any chance of a settlement between the CWU and Royal Mail then may I suggest that Slimey, upon losing his office and being run out of the Lords, be given 30m+ letters and told to deliver them as a part of his community service sentence?
R4 Toady told me all morning that the recession is over
Are you suggesting their prediction was just propoganda?
Sky were also predicting the figures would show we were out of recession.
Funny that! Sky et al were pushing the ‘its all over’ mantra this morning. No10 must have been busy. wonder where they’re all hiding this morning. And I guess those poor chaps at the Stats office must had to duck when the Nokias and Printers started to fly – which unlucky sod had to tell Gorgon?
exactly.
BBC24 and SkyNews expecting to hear about growth in the economy for the first time since last April – hark, the recession is over.
What utter shit they talk
This is the problem these shake and bake journalists are happy to spend all day in the pub and just print liebour party handouts. Iv given up expecting to see any truth of the news, thats why were all on these blogs now.
And R5 live as well, somebody had obviously handed them the wrong script.
I shall tell that useless piece of crap called Brown – with a baseball bat on his head.
That is a criminal act and beneath contempt even on this blog site,be careful in future.
No, no, Rev. – he meant a baseball CAP, but with the decline in state education he can’t spell.
Rev. Williams, you are Soapy Stevens in a vicar’s costume and I claim my £5.
How often have I told you: you never refer to ‘Sir Humphrey Davy’ as ‘Sir Davy’ or to ‘Sir Gerald Nabarro’ as ‘Sir Nabarro’. There MUST ALWAYS be something between the ‘Sir’ bit and the ’surname’ bit: The Revd. John Keble; The Rev. Dr. E.B. Pusey; The Very Rev. W. Inge…
Of course, Dissenters (uncomplicated souls that they are) never have got the hang of all this…
Jethro, that’s what gave him away.
One of the panel selecting MacDoom for the award of World Statesman of the Year was the Nokia International Number 1. Funny old world. Every lost, broken Nokia is replaced and that’s good for business. By all accounts, MacDoom was good for the mobile replacement business (at public expense, no doubt).
Brown has shown he is capable of ruining steamrollers and anvils.
Pro-Labour economists have been telling everyone for weeks that these figures would show an end to the recession. They were wrong. These figures are much, much worse than anyone expected.
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No.
Yes, even Radio 3 was doing this. It’s probably just that the pundits were wrong, as usual, but of course there is such a thing as reporting bias, the tendency to report news that fits in with the Beeb’s world-view and to suppress news that doesn’t.
Of course it was
We’re now coming out of recession as a result of actions we’ve taken” G. Brown, Andrew Marr Show, 26/7
No, no, no it’s not the “pundits”! These figures don’t just drop out of a hat unexpectedly one morning. No.10 will have known this for at least 24 hours and had an indication before that. The wave of nonsense coursing through the MSM this morning was placed propaganda.
All the usual hack suspects would have been contacting their “contacts” for a bit of an inside track to make up the early morning copy and write what they are guided towards. They were lied to, otherwise where’s the logic in suddenly being told “sorry no steer this time” and deciding everything must be ok then?
McDoom either was attempting a last minute re-write of the data or someone decided that a morning full of MSM bile against Old Nick would have been spoilt by the economic bad news.
The 6pm news is going to be a shock for all those Toady (et al) listeners who went to work thinking thank goodness things are looking up. Ouch.
And you think that even this figure was not spun?
I wonder what the true economic figures look like!
Gordon is a moron.
I’m praying that job in Switzerland comes off, because this country is fucked.
make sure you ask for at least a 50% uplift in salary if you do. it is bloody expensive here!
if it’s at Dignitas, expect to be very busy. There be lods of brits wanting to do away with themselves.
Does that include Bungler Brown?
I understand it’s cryogenics for McDoom. They plan to wake him up in a few centuries time when hopefully the medical advances will have been made so they can repair his brain.
[ We are opening the skull now, with great care and all due reverence... but - what is this? There is nothing here? Nothing at all?... Ah: thank heavens! There is something, after all. It is, as you will be able to see now, a small plastic... a memory-stick! Quick, wipe it clean and put it into an USB... "IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THE RIGHT THING TO DO, GETTING ON WITH THE JOB, GETTING ON WITH THE JOB, DOING THE RIGHT THING, DOING THE RIGHT THING..." Un-plug it: switch it off, for God's sake! Yes, Now! Before we are all driven mad...]
Why shocked?
I would have said it was fucking obvious and not at all surprising.
Yep, just shows that the analysts who didn’t see this coming are continuing to be completely useless.
Or have been fed false numbers.
Yet another BBC led propaganda splurge in favour of Liebore.
You make the mistake of assuming that the talking heads were out there trying to run businesses, in which case it would indeed be fucking obvious !
You don’t even need to be running a business, my cat said it was fucking obvious. I’d believe him ahead of Brown and his acolytes, sorry, economists any day.
Fuck me….. a talking cat!
what’s the name of this supreme being?
Sam here. Now just let me get on with designing really useful things like a notebook or a handbag . When I am first lady I will pass a law which says handbags are the way out of recession.I don’t really shop at M&S but it make me look more common.
See you suckers. By the way what recession hubby Dave has 30 million in his bank.
‘ I am super Max, m’envoie un fax, kein geld in das Dax!
“By the way what recession hubby Dave has 30 million in his bank.”
How DARE anyone have money – they should be giving it all to the poor people who sit on their arses doing shag all every day. They’re all nasty and evil and should be strung up!
Hey “Max, talking, superintelligent etc” are you getting yourself mixed up with me? Kein geld rings a bell; did we meet last night when I was a goner on red wine? Apologies if so.
Exactly ! Down with wealthy educated people!!
Up with nouveau riche socialists who have helped the poorest communities by using allowances to build up property empires!
DOWN WITH ANYTHING WE ENVY!!
A talking cat, that’s nothing!
I have a talking mini gorilla, called Max!
He’s a f’in genius, well that’s what he says anyway.
Sometimes, when I’ve got a cold, I’m a-talking hoarse.
WRAAAAAWWWKK!!! (preen) (flutter) RAININSPAIN! RAININSPAIN!
He doesn’t talk. Every time Brown appears on telly and talks bollocks he takes a shit. Fuck there is a lot of shit around here.
course it’s obvious. you only need to look round any town centre (outside fvcking west London) and see all the boarded-up shops, “to let” signs and the queues at any dole office to know that the recession isn’t over no matter how much Gormless McDoom and the tame Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation say that it is.
I was shocked by the revelation that the planet that Broon & Co are living on is so, so far away from our own dimension of reality.
Its even worse in the red rose heart land!
Boarded up, charity shop and Cheques cashed.
Oh yes AND pub closed!
(The inexpensive clothes keep our A-lister students warm.)
they aren’t the only ones, I haven’t had any clothes that were bought from other than charity shops and eBuy for the last two years.
Arrh and I live in a hole in the road under the M25 0000000000000000 so sad sad sad .
so you’re the one that causes all the traffic jams!
We’re so poor my dad bought us a cap so we can take it in turns to look out of the window.
We’re the only big western country that will still be in the shit at Q3 2009. If that’s not a good sign we were ‘worse placed’ to weather the storm I dont know what is!
Hopefully this news will refocus attention away from the discraction that was last night’s Question Time, back onto real issues affecting real people.
Your absolutely right.
Well done Nick, you Labour stooge, you gave them a smokescreen to hide behind – another “good day to bury bad news”.
I pray that Ken (oh and maybe with some assistance from George) is working on a plan………….
We can pull out of this with the right (Sovereign) Government. Apathy is the killer. I.E: Tax and regulation kills the will. Why bother to feather one’s nest when it is being systematically destroyed?
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Could you repeat that please? I was busy shitting my nappy
We all know without the shadow of a doubt that Gordoom was half right when he said he’d abolished boom and bust. There certainly won’t be any more boom while the one-eyed scottish snot gobbling idiot is in charge. But hey, it is growth in Gordoom’s eye, negative growth. Like his mate, Tony, he’s a pretty straight kind of a guy.
I think you will find negative-endogenous growth is the correct labour shitspeak for this phenomena.
I think you are overdoing the gloom. Compared to the people of Somalia, we are all doing rather well, thanks to Gordons stewardship.
twat
Second that
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Fithed
I think you will find Somalians are arriving here, realising they’ve made a mistake, turning round and going home
o% rise
I think you will find we have just enjoyed a -0.4% rise
So when Gorden went forth and saved the world, he sacrificed britain?
Yes
Spelling is not your strong point.
you’re right, he can’t spell brain
This does not compute…….this does not compute…….
Nada…..zero…..nought……nothing……empty……..vacuum…….darkness……..dollars………shopping……….no, nothing to see there. Move on.
Wait….it speaks….downturn, what down turn. Cherie and are are quids in, mate. Quids in.
I’m just not a straight kinda guy……
It was announced that we are out of recession last night on This Week.
Obviously not.
No, it was last week on this week and the week before last on that was the week taht was….I think!
Brillo: Got it wrong but he was quoting others. What happened to reporting facts not gossip. Moreover gossip that then turns out to be badly wrong.
You’ll find it was announced on Today yesterday, just before This Week retracted it.
Gorgon only watches Tomorrows World!
It would be nice to see Gordon Brown on Question Time in front of a hand picked audience of pensioners, taxpayers and some ex Leyland and Corus workers.
Absolutely.
Yes please! I’d actually make an effort to watch it.. Throw in some recent unemployed graduates all owing £20k in loans as well..
His grotty head would be kicked in before Dimbelbore has finished announcing the panel,this after he has only got in to the TV Centre via an underground sewer due to the riots outside.
And what planet are you on? We have not been reduced to this nonsense yet. Violence is the lowest form of response,think before you reveal your lack of intellect.
Williams, I am well fed up with your fucking sanctimonious clap-trap and drivel. Anymore and I will do for you, you fucking cretin.
When you are dealing with Moron McSnot-Gobbler, it’s the only language he understands. Just like Talking Horse Spheriods, he’s a bully.
Why not get all the leaders in to this, and extend the show by at least 30 minutes…
He won’t. Two odious men but only one has the balls to face his enemies.
And some bereaved army familiies and friends………..
agree
He would be lynched and I would be the first in the queue to put a rope around his fat, ugly neck!
Are you ugly?
Now that would be a show.
Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gordon, oh Gordon you’ve taken us for fools.
You lied about Prudence and your ‘Golden Rules’.
You plundered our pensions and decimated our savings,
We’re fed up of listening to your ‘global’ ravings.
Blair claimed you’re a genius; he lied to us too.
The ‘British’ economy is in deep doggy-doo.
‘No booms, no busts !’ you used to shout out.
That was all hubris, of that there’s no doubt.
You bang on and on about your Presbyterian daddy,
Born a son of the manse and raised in Kircaldy.
Now how would he regard you, with disgust or with pride ?
Seeing you’ve got friends such as Draper and McBride ?
You say your ‘moral compass’ does n’t point toward sleaze,
But what about Darling, McNulty,Malik,Moran, Smith and Blears ?
Of the Top Twenty Troughing MPs, NuLabour’s got SIXTEEN !
Your Cabinet, sir, is rotten – you’re nowt but a has-been.
Now,if you’d like us to show a scintilla of affection,
Screw up some courage, CALL A GENERAL ELECTION !
we are not all fools.
having an election will not change much but it may provide some relief from the mendacious bastards currently in power – how I am longing for the fall of the new labour regime……….
The worst recession ever and it’s nearly over ? NO
Darling & Brown didn’t just do a bit of extra borrowing as Chancellor’s have done through history to tide an economy over a recession. They raped our children’s futures and stole their tax receipts to pay foro this generations greed.
This is a Depression and it’s only just starting
Mervyn King has said it will take a decade to return to prosperity, Brown’s Britain.
It’ll take far longer than a decade to fix this fucking mess.
Merv is a political place-man from what I can see. He knows a lot more than he’s letting on about the dire state we’re in.
Remember QE printing money puts an even bigger distortion into the mix. We are in big do do and it will take a generation to put right. Not sure who said it above but yes our children will be paying the price.
And if you look at John Redwood’s comments on QE, you’ll see that his analysis suggests that the only beneficiary of QE is the government, because it keeps down their cost of borrowing.
I have a feeling that Merv is only there to limit the actions of the fools in Govt.
He does know what’s going on, and as soon as they go, he’s going to tell all.
So who’s going to take him out?
I’m game
There is probably a few million volunteers.
When I suggested a wall, a machine gun with plenty of ammunition pointed towards the wall, and politicians by the wall, on the same side as the machine gun, I was told that I would commit a public order offence: there was likely to be a riot to get to the machine gun to deal with the politicians. I know many of them are lawyers, but even lawyers are held in higher esteem these days.
Wait for the positive spin, while Gordo is in the bunker, Mandy will have something to say on the excellent job they are doing and getting on with the business of governing.
Remember – Right = Bad and Left = Good
I bet £10 that Mandy’s statement includes the words “making the big important decisions”.
Mandelson is probably on the verge of making the ‘Big” decision, announcing Brown stepping down.
No no
Mandy is negotiating to join the Tory Party and turn his vest for the umpteenth time ..
Start as a communist and end as a filthy rich Tory !!
If DC allows Peter Mandelson to work in any capacity for the Conservative party then I will … actually I don’t know what I will do…
You will not have to do anything as it WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Forget this economics nonsense – how about the scandal of Sam Cameron’s dress:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6886208.ece
So the Times are saying “In truth it was a practically bespoke £150 sample, not a £65 off-the-peg garment as previously claimed.”
So f*cking what, seems they have their priorities all mixed up if this is the worst they can trawl up……………..
Investigative journalism lives on: Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward eat yer hearts out.
Who is ‘Sore Throat’?
Ed Balls??
Don’t forget the vile wife, Mrs Y Ball-Scooper
Bälle – Faßbinder sounds so……European dont you think?
I prefer Talking Horse Spheriods, myself.
Yvette Cooper – Yuck what a worthless piece she is. Here and Ed are well suited to each other. Looking forward to them being in the queue at the local job centre come the GE.
I’d like them to run a scandal about Gordon not paying for his poppy. That’ll show them!
Don’t be wet. Given an opportunity for advertising I would have done the same. It is called business. One offs and short orders keep the small businesses going and avoids overstock situations.
idiot – it’s about the gesture not the dress – where do they come from???
What’s the betting that on today’s news the BBC will quote some hee-haw saying that it is better than predicted!
Yes,but you won’t see the gun pointed at him from off camera.
“Today’s figures show that the economy has experienced a greater than expected negative increase in growth. It has done this because itistherightthingtodo and is in the interests of hardworkingfamilies.”
“But the figures could still be revised up or down at a later date, because this figure is only the first estimate”
Quoted from the BBC news page though they don’t really pull any punches about it to be fully fair. They still can’t quite bring themselves to have a real good go though and infer these figures may not be quite right so don’t get too excited.
Truly sad from an institution that before Labour got their mitts all over it was a respected force. No longer though as had the Tories done this then the report would be that the country would be doomed. The problem is we know thats what they would have said to the same news hence they have to be ended.
I’m in two minds about this news. For one it’s disappointing that we are still in recession and that the country will have to suffer a few more months [crosses fingers] of pain. However I’m also gloating as it just shows up the Prime Mentalist for being so up himself that he can’t see reality. I can’t wait to to hear how they put a positive stance on this news – maybe by saying that we are still way ahead of Zimbabwe and other similarly positioned countries that have worse economies. But they are in that position not because of the credit-crunch but because their economies are just not robust in the first place whilst we have actively through the government’s mismanagement have put ourselves into the position of bottom of the class.
“You can predict the spin…… the rate of decline has slowed, which is good news, and was due to us taking the right decisions at the right time, unlike the conservatives who would have done nothing.”
Are you seriously suggesting that a reoprt we are in +growth however small or big is the catalyst that tells everyone we are now in the good times. Firstly, the figures are massaged to hell and secondly any recovery factored around GDP is so obscure that it does not mean anything. The real test is when people start finding work and the unemployment figures start to fall. That my friend will take several months if not 1 – 2 years. Using the word recovery is loosy goosy and misses the point entirely.
Printing money and spreading good news lies is all this evil labour government have left. It may have given most people the impression that things are levelling but in reality, it’s the eye of the storm: in a few months time we shall see the full force of this recession and exactly how badly placed the UK is.
Yes, but the situation in Britain is really no worse than in the rest of Africa.
Worse. We should apply to Zimbabwe for aid. They’ve got loads of money they can send us.
Guido – the UK media is almost completely pro Government and the BBC in particular talked up the “end of the down turn” throughout this morning’s “Breakfast Time” and “Today” coverage (i.e The Front Offices of Nu Labour).
Even the so-called conservative press is staffed by not very bright liberal left sympathisers who studied under Marxist scholars adopting Gramsci analysis at university or attended meeja studies courses at some provincial punyversity.
And the rest of the media don’t want to frighten their shareholders
Hang on a fucking min, didnt brown say the downturn would be over by july ?
Yes, but he’s an incompetent poltroon who hasn’t got a clue what’s going on or what to do about it, and will spout any ex tempore bollocks that comes into his addled head to get his persecutors temporarily off his manse-spawned back
Liebour will now alter the calender as the seasons are all to cock with this supposed global warming – so for Gordon it is still April or May – simples
Seasonal adjustment
They’ve been doing it to the jobless figures since Adam was a lad. Why stop there?
quite
now is the spring of our discontent
The absence of questions on the Economy and Jobs was a pity for last night’s Griffin baiting exercise. I, for one, would like to have heard how he proposed to get us out of this mess. I suspect that he does not have an answer that would stand-up. Unfortunately Question Time seemed to be an exercise in avoiding the elephant in the Room – the EU – when it comes to deciding who can live in this country. I am not keen on Griffin and his likes, but I am also exasperated by main-stream political denial of the say-so the EU has over our lives.
BTW the idea that the French (or the Germans) can apply for an arrest warrant for something somebody from this country says in this country show how EU dictator creep is upon us.
Griffin insults eight million Londoners by saying London is no longer British. He calls himself a patriot, but he hates our captial city.
London is a cackhole.
your dirty bedsit is a cackhole frank and you are a fucking tramp who smells of shit but we do not go on about it, now do we you pisshead?
I have a fine late victorian terrace and I do not smell of shit.
Nor have I been drunk for weeks. I am a fine upstanding human being and hardly anyone knows my dark secrets.
tat with a silent w. Get up out of your piss stained chair and move your stinking blodd dribbling ass out into the real world.
take your own advice analiser.
I suck cock for 50p a go. I take it up the ass for free
Has top boy not got a bottom boy – is that why he’s always out of sorts?
Tat IS a bottom boy. He works as an usher in a gay cinema and doesn’t declare his “tip” income.
SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS YOU SLAGS!
LICENCE REVOCATION WILL BE INVOKED IF YOU BN P RETARDS DON’T SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING CRIPPLES!
TOP BOY HAS SPOKEN. NO APPEALS WILL BE HEARD.
HOW MANY TIMES MUST TOP BOY HAVE TO TELL YOU SLAGS
I AM THE DADDY AND YOU ARE FASCIST SCUM:YOU WILL DANCE TO MY TUNE BITCHES DANCE NOW YOU SLAGS DANCE FASTER! FASTER YOU STUPID FASCIST BN P WHORES!
MAKE ME LAUGH YOU FUCKING CRACKHEAD SLUTS!
remember that scene in deer hunter, the one where they are playing russian roulette and the guy blows his head off? that is what nick griffin did last night on question time: he blew his own fucking head off!
your commandant made a total twat of himself. damp squib. poor arguments. and so fucking ugly; I think that is the clincher for nick griffin, the final nail in his political coffin is that he is such an ugly sweaty lardy arsed c’unt who to compound the initial revulsion also manifested odd and inappropriate mannerisms. a creepy looking fellow is mr griffin. something not right about him, he does not behave like an Englishman at all.
’tis funny how such trivial things can finish off careers: griffin sought the spotlight and the bbc were happy to give a platform to a member of a white supremacist organisation. but having seen the man, people can see what an inadequate fellow he is, indeed he is now whining about being bullied. a fascist who wishes to deport all non whites has suddenly grown a heart and feels bullied by a studio audience. pathetic and weak. and interesting to note the uniform level of thug looking fascists protecting this pathetic specimen from being set upon by the crowds.
note to nick griffin: you are a whimpering coward who moans about being bullied yet you have declared that our generals should be hung.
you are a fucking traitor to Queen and Country. you chose the wrong target. big mistake, very fucking big mistake motherfucker.
well done nick, you have simultaneously exposed yourself as a sweaty lard arsed whining ugly fucking ignorant c’unt. you exposed yourself as the fool you are.
good work!
note to above slags: look, stop wasting your and our time here and fuck off to conservativefoam, eh? those fuckwits are always scrounging around for lost souls like you.
GO THERE NOW!
London is a shit hole is it not?
I moved out when my local pub got taken over by Bosnians, OK their prossies were nice to look at but when the shooting started and you had to cross police police incident tape to get a kebab I thought let’s move out of Dodge ol’ son.
Without Wyatt Earp being there to defend you that was the right decision.
Where’s Master Baiter when you want a bit of light relief?
Friday’s his day to sign on. He’ll be along once he’s picked up his copy of Nuts magazine
And Zipper mag for those shocking statistics
Tea break in the bunker. Still deciding on biscuits.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
http://www.tunnock.co.uk/index1.htm
Damn You, Now I’m off to the shops.
And? £13.5bn bonus for 5,000 of us. The UK economy isn’t run for you. You lose, we win, BIG! Now fuck off.
Why were they protesting at the BBC TV Centre yesterday – they should be outside Goldmine Sachs offices with nooses – they could allow the fraudsters to choose the thickness of the rope and the length of the drop – that’s only fair,surely?
BBC pays better
Quite right pov. The difference is that Wossy gets £18 million of OUR monry, whereas Goldman staff are robbing their clients, who have the choice of whether to do business with them. You don’t get detector vans going round asking you if you bought this week’s shitty derivative from Goldmans.
Brown’s Buggered Britain!
And he is still in his job, crazy.
When using Buggered you need to put Mandy in the sentence.
We expect to see an increase in the number of banknotes printed during the month of November.
it’s such a drag.
How are we going to dress this one up?
Out of the Sun in a silk dress, running like a watercolour in the rain.
Don’t bother asking for explanations – they’ll just tell you you came
In the year of the Twat.
One of my favourite songs – Al Stewart would do a better job than the rat Brown
god, you’re old
Anontthing, God is timeless!
I am indeed very old.
Ancient am I.
And I shall die e’er the Braunschulden are paid.
Year of the Cat Lyrics – Now that is a song.
On a morning from a Bogart movie
In a country where they turn back time
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre
Contemplating a crime
She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running
Like a watercolor in the rain
Don’t bother asking for explanations
She’ll just tell you that she came
In the year of the cat
She doesn’t give you time for questions
As she locks up your arm in hers
And you follow ’till your sense of which direction
Completely disappears
By the blue tiled walls near the market stalls
There’s a hidden door she leads you to
These days, she says, I feel my life
Just like a river running through
The year of the cat
Well, she looks at you so coolly
And her eyes shine like the moon in the sea
She comes in incense and patchouli
So you take her, to find what’s waiting inside
The year of the cat
Well morning comes and you’re still with her
And the bus and the tourists are gone
And you’ve thrown away your choice and lost your ticket
So you have to stay on
But the drumbeat strains of the night remain
In the rhythm of the new-born day
You know sometime you’re bound to leave her
But for now you’re going to stay
In the year of the cat
Last about 7 minutes and sheer joy from start to finish.
Wheelbarrow time!
The money that New Labour are printing is being lent to the banks at 0.5%. The FSA yesterday released a discussion paper on how to regulate international banks which are deemed “too big to fail”, forcing them to hold additional capital and more low risk assets than they did before the crisis (see http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/discussion/dp09_04.pdf). This shows that New Labour are forcing the banks to use cheap government money to buy bonds and equities to transfer vast cororate debt to public debt.
What New Labour are failing to address is that it is consumer spending that drives and economy. Rescuing banks and companies just stops them failing, but until the government actually helps Small and Medium size Enterprises (SME) and consumers deal with their debt, the recession will be difficult to reverse.
This government is set to borrow vast amounts of money for a very long time. It would be better to stop progressively throwing money at companies who will probably invest it abroad (where growth prospects are better) and help the population out of this mess.
New Labour and the next government will borrow it anyway, so why not take a bold decision now and give the money to consumers who can and will make a big difference to the domestic economy, where companies will not.
100% wrong.
I’ll bet you are up to your eyeballs in debt, and probably one of those BtL Landlords who can’t work out yields. Now after your rent-seeking you want your underwater property empire to be bailed out.
Fuck off.
Aunty Zit, If that’s ‘wrong’ what’s right?
Let it run its course?
Let the house burn down?
Do nothing?
Go on offer some enlightenment, what is right?
By the way irrespective of individual circumstances there are plenty of buy to let investors/speculators that are underwater. The quantum is dwarfed by the mess in commercial property.
Hahahaha
So you think Gordoom ruining the British economy is funny?
“No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
Another crate of whisky needed, now what or who can we boil down to pay for it?
I’m here Conservitudes, squeezing my spots and thinking hard about what to say on this one.
A wank I think.
No need to trouble us thank you. Put the lights out on your way out.
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!!
http://www.tunnock.co.uk/caramelwafer.html
Apparently Darling thought all along it would be next year before we saw a return to growth. He just decided to lie about it in the PBR.
What a nice guy.
http://page.politicshome.com/uk/confidence_in_economy_beginning_to_return_darling_insists.html
Strange -the Budget Report says:
‘growth picks up from late 2009 with growth of 1¼ per cent in 2010. The economy is then forecast to grow strongly in 2011 at 3½ per cent as the global economy improves and Government’s measures take full effect’
He seems to have forgotten that?
Things are so good he is asking all govt depts for 20% savings next year
Britain is about to feel the effect of Brown’s “Nuclear Winter”. Please somebody take the money machine away from Brown.
The real hard times won’t start until after the Election whenever that may be. And no party will be honest about how tough it’s going to be. They know that the fearful sheeple will vote for the party who promises the least pain. Hence it pays to play down the state of the economy – whichever party your in.
Correct, more’s the pity.
This is the price we pay for parliamentary (ie party based) democracy.
The reality is that drastic action should be taken NOW. Delay will only make the economic situation far worse.
Just two more quarters to report before the General Election and no sign of the boomlet (our grandchildren will be paying for ) which Labour hopes will prevent a landslide defeat at the polls and reduce the Conservative majority to some 35 seats where they hope to be able to carp from opposition, as the new government embarks on the most drastic steps since the 1930’s. They would then feel secure in the knowledge that they won’t have to be the ‘Nasty party’
B*rstards.
I will and I will turn it into a handbag so big that Davy Jelly will be able to squeeze in all his 30 million smackers. Keep blogging for us I can see the door to Number 10 o what shall I wear?
So you aren’t as well off as Glenys Kinnock then?
Not by a very long shot.
“Chancellor Alistair Darling said he had never expected to see growth before the end of 2009. ”
Quote from Aljabbeeba website on this story
So he lied then.
This country is a basket case. It’s completely f’ucked both financially and morally. The amount of its debt is such that its bordering on bankruptsy. And old jaw-wobbler still thinks he’s done a good job – may the good L’ord or A’llah or whatever fairy tale deity you believe in help us quickly!
Is there anybody out there that doesn’t think I am a fucking idiot?
Well, is there?
Yes me.
Back to your mailbags, Straw.
Mandelsons getting on with that job, he’s just emptied another postmans sack.
First class joke. Has O’Pastree’s stamp of approval.
Not registered male.
Is that a 7 inch envelope or just the normal Labour 4 incher?
About 27% of our sample.
“Where am I ? My that was a long sleep!”
Yes me, good old Gordon you are honest and very hard working and it is very unlucky that you are Prime Minister in this global recession. Keep going soon a new dawn will bring you good news.
Who is doing the most damage to citizens of this country Gurner Brown or Nick Griffin?
Its the one eyed scottish moron
Please change your name. It is a disgusting thought
Agreed
Eh let me think – starts with B and ends in N.
The Cluster Fuck to the poor house continues
Look at that boy. It’s coming aht of me like a Vince Cable!
It is General Election time. No more excuses from Brown and the Brownies. They have “Broken Britain”, and the Conservatives will have to put it back together again, history is repeating itself. Times are bad, the British public should be demanding an election now, because the longer these financial idiots are in charge the harder it will be to sort it all out. Mervyn King warned that Brown and his public spending were spiralling out of control. People should listen to King he knows the score, wake up people and send Labour packing!
Correct but unfortunately brown is not going to go easily.
Brown is following a different agenda from what most people assume. Remember he said a few months ago when he was challenged about continuing in office: “I will finish the work.” That clearly implies the destruction in every area of our lives we are seeing is intentional.
It must take guts to commit Treason, but since Brown doesn’t have any, he relies on pills to prop him up.
Can’t be arsed
If however you asked me to demonstrate against free speech
It’s all about priorities
The problem isn’t really the continued shrinkage. It’s both the deluded analysts parroting what the politicians and media want to hear and the deluded politicians who think that Britain was best placed to weather the Global Financial Downturn that started in America (except when there are Americans within earshot) wot was not caused by gerrymandering public sector spending and encouraging rampant profit taking (to grab oodles of tax on that profit).
With the benefit of hindsight I am amazed Brown & Co’s blatant short-termism lastest so long!
The right of free speech necessitates the appearance of those whose views are odious and repellant. Griffin showed his colours and it was evident what his game is.
Perhaps even more odious, and someone we have to see everyday, was the slippery Jack. Has there been a more dangerous opponent to democracy than this terrifying, awful person?
He’s now attempting to make public enquiries, er, private, with no point of redress for the public. In a nation as serf like, as deferential and as sycophantic as Britain, I suspect he will succeed. Read the whole agonising thing yourselves:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/matthew-norman/matthew-norman-of-all-the-new-labour-toadies-jack-straw-must-be-the-worst-1807563.html
Never mind eh? Martine McCutcheon has a new “novel” out.
Still think you are living in a democracy?
The only thing I’d celebrate Martine McCutcheon releasing, is her last breath…
Nasty, vile, spiteful little shit.
Who the fuck is she?
Tiphanee off of Enders
Don’t worry most people wouldn’t fuck her with somebody else’s
Actress/”singer”, no one of any importance… smiles on the outside, nasty manipulative bitch on the inside.
The future MrsE and her friends have many tales of how awful she is to work with.
Er, I think you’ve missed the point of the posting. Interesting, however, that all seem more intersted in McCutcheon than in the antics of Jack Straw. Surely this is further evidence of the supine and ovine British population.
Don’t get me wrong – I understood the post; it really wasn’t that cryptic.
I think most people here know how much of a Hoon Jack Straw is – his attempt to revive the secret inquests bill are more damaging to our democracy than anything Labour have done in a long time…
i the case of martine, shouldn’t your comment say bovine rather than ovine??
Third time the cünting cünt has tried it as well. No wonder they want to fix the Lords. Straw is indeed utterly loathsome.
Jack Straw..a name heard way back in my 6th Form Grammar School days of the late 60s…Jack heavy into Student Politics now turning the reality into a dream world for himself!
Was he president of the National Union of Students the year before Charles Clarke or the year after?
BBC News 24 has people on at the moment , talking about the signs of green shoots. I kid you not.
Goldman Sachs offices would be a good place to start. Cheers!
So who are the idiots that keep spraying the weedkiller on everything?, Strong dose of Roundup and exterminate needed…. for the head gardeners.
Please spray some on NoooLieBore
Have a ride around the Black Country – industry is fucked
A bleak industrial landscape is peppered with brand new public sector buildings staffed lumpy part time women with ID badges
Cammeron need to pull his finger out of his arse
Repeat the mantra: “a low pound helps exporters!”
Pity we don’t have any exporters thanks to Jonah and Nu Labour, though, innit.
All very well, but most things we export are made of imported items.
That’s the new Knowledge Economy – we all know it’s shit.
Thanks to the modern education/ indoctrination system, I think that should be:
‘all we know, is shit’.
At least the dimwits on this site recognise it’s a global recession.
Well done!
Britain the sick man of europe again, just like the 1970s. The common factor, Baiter, is your precious Labour.
It’s a global recession.
It started in America.
Even the right wing dimwits on this site can see that now.
The rest are in the dark.
France and Germany grew 0.3% in Q2 09. It’s the two bankers’ citadels – Wall St and Lombard St; UK/US, two cheeks of the same fat moneychangers arse.
Hmmm… unusual on this site to have pro Germany and France comments, maybe closer ties with those two countries would be better for the UK?
You mean parasite off the French and Germans because the British taxpayer has been exhausted?
No
Then what on earth does “closer ties” mean?
I’ll come back tomorrow for your answer as I appreciate that this means an email to HQ.
Cream puff, Ask ‘take your….’ at 138.
read more carefully to grasp the meaning, take note of the punctuation. It may be a struggle for a flabby mind drenched in Daily Mail drivel but the effort will be worth it.
New Labour = We didn’t do it, it was the Tories
It’s a global recession and it started all over the world – that’s what global means
Glad to see you admit that the Left wing are in the dark, as everything they have done so far has just made things worse
Global means it spread all over the world.
It started in America means it started in America.
The right wing dimwits that infest this site have spent months deriding the notion that it’s a global recession and similarly derided the notion that it started in America.
Even right wing dimwits have grasped those facts now.
Which leaves only those who are totally in the dark.
New Labour = We didn’t do it, it was the Ametricans
“Global means it spread all over the world.”
Wrong again, MB (your imbecility continueth unabated!). Last time I looked, neither Australia or New Zealand (just to pick a couple of examples) were in a recession. Economic growth continues and this despite have robust currencies that have not been subjected to debauchery by a bankrupt regime. Could it just be that it is because NZ has a robust, economically conservative government and that Australia is still reaping the benefits of having had the same for many years?
Meanwhile McDoom’s Britain continues its inexorable slide into poverty. It must make you so proud.
Actually that is correct, follow the money.
@mb
@mb, you fuckwit – “it started in America” is not the same as “America started it”. Indeed, the American sub-prime fiasco was largely engineered by the branch of AIG set up in the City specifically to make use of Cüntface Brown’s “light touch” regulation, which allowed them to sell tjem off using CDS.
Never mind. I guess it keeps you off the streets.
If the labour party had behaved more … well like a labour party … they’d have kept cautious rules that would have made our institutions less likely to join in the fun.
I suppose the “just do what the americans do” shit is at least is “only money” in this case. Unlike Iraq.
Once again you ignore the fact that credit insurance created by AIG in London allowed banks to lend money without carrying the can if the the borrower defaulted.
Gordon’s mistake was he did not require lenders to provision for debt if they were covered by credit insurance, which created 30% more money being lent out without proper cover. That is what got us into this mess and it started in London.
Master Wanker, undoubtedly the US mortgage companies were as feckless as Norther Rock….
…. but ask yourself what tipped the credit crunch into near-meltdown?
Until Lehman Brothers, governments both side of the Atlantic were working hard to prevent a major player going down but something happened to make Bush and Brown change tack.
I’ll tell you what is was, some cnut thought of the phrase “no time for a novice” and decided it would apply to both Obama and Cameron.
So Bush told Lehman that there was no taxpayer support and Brown told Barclays to stop wooing Lehman and to go missing until the big bust had happened.
Result, near meltdown, “no time for a novice” and “when I saved the world” from the delusional Brown.
L B, amusingly AIG stands for American Insurance Group.
It started in America.
The investment banks and hedge funds have had a malevolent strangle hold on the global economy for decades. The investment banking business model is bust and with it neo-liberalism is totally discreditted also.
The Conservitudes are bought and paid for by the kleptocratic financial oligopoly that foisted so called ‘free market’ neo-liberalism on to us.
That’s why the Conservitudes are painting themselves in to a corner.
Conservitudes worng on the recession, wrong on the recovery.
Hahahaha
And was amplified in London by a Labour regulatory regime. How the Hoons mocked the Germans with their over regulated financial system.
Make things that people want and sell them quality. High value, high tec. No cheap labour. India and China do that at a fraction. No welfare for immigrants for 10 years. No job, no private means of support, no enter UK (or EU).
End of story.
Another one of the ‘It started in America’ fucktards.
Get the fekker in a straitjacket immediately.
You can try spin that one all you like. Those of us who saw the economic catastrophe coming years ago know better.
Brown/Penfold (Merv the swerve) King and the BoE /FSA/MPC/ Treasury all fucked up massively by keeping interest rates to low for far too long. They pumped up the biggest credit bubble in history. They didn’t have to play Wall Street’s tune but they played it anyway…….for over a decade. They encouraged the ‘laissez faire’ light touch attitude to regulation and banking excess. They let the bankers rape the country.
8X salary mortgages. Self cert mortgages. 125% mortgages
Northern Rock lending out several times what it had on deposit and borrowing money in the currency markets to keep on financing a Ponzi scam.
Property porn every night on telly, encouraging people to invest in a property market that was sustained for over a decade ONLY on loose credit, not on anything even remotely connected to a sound market based on real economic prosperity. It was just a giant pyramid of debt.
Massive expansion of the state and huge expenditure on public sector with Bank of England created ‘funny money.’ None of it can be paid for without taxing the British people into perpetual serfdom.
There’s no end to littany of disasters that Gordon Brown has brought upon the British people. He is a madman, a deranged sociopath. He has used financial weapons of mass destruction to bring this country to its knees.
And despite all of this carnage, there are still people out there who insist Gordon Brown is ‘innocent’ and he has ’saved the world’ from economic collapse.
HE CAUSED THE COLLAPSE YOU FUCKTARDS, and more disturbing still, it seems like the whole credit boom was planned deliberately. They knew damn well years ago what the outcome would be, the fucking criminal bastards.
So, to all of you out there who think Gordon Brown just saved the world, just watch what happens to your living standards over the next few years. The bill for the damage he has done to this country is still in the post. It’ll be arriving on your doormat soon.
Too long.
However:
Wall Street (that’s in America) led financial engineering or innovation which created ways of creating more credit by moving loans off the ‘book’ by selling them on in the form of piles of toxic assets. This achievement led to a systemic infection of the financial system all around the world (that’s globally).
It did start in America.
Maybe so.
But the same practices were taken up here.
But you contend that the central bankers/ MPC/ FSA/ Treasury/ and the government didn’t know what was happening (for several years)
I put it to you that such ignorance is inconceivable. The scale of the fraud is just too huge for the British and American governments or their regulatory quangos not to have known what was going on.
We are talking MASSIVE fraud here, on a scale never seen before in modern history.
It started in America, the African American community is paying the highest price by far. The suffering in America is and will be far greater than the undoubted suffering in the UK now and in the future.
There was malfeasance on a grand scale and it took place in America.
The authorities in the UK should have been more vigilant but had been captured by a belief in efficient markets or self correcting and infallible markets, in other words neo-liberalism or ‘free market’ fundamentalism.
Among many other events, Black Wednesday in 1992 and the experience of Lamont taught governments not to stand up to the markets.
Since which time there has been a huge increase in the power and resources of the kleptocratic financial oligopoly enabling them to run rings round any government’s attempt to come to grips with their operations.
The crisis is global and the regulatory shortcomings are global also.
The malfeasance, the law breaking, the crime took place mainly in America and/or was directed from there.
Lesson over.
IT STARTED IN AMERICA….
BRITAIN WELL PLACED…
0% GROWTH…..
THERE WILL BE NO CUTS….
I CAN’T TURN OFF MY CAPS LOCK…
I CAN’T CHOOSE MY COMESTIBLE THIS MORNING…..
HA HA HA.
POOR IMPRESSION.
FIND YOUR OWN NAME AND LAYOUT.
Apparently not, as parts of the Eurozone are on the up.Unless your definition of global is somewhat narrow? You indicated earlier that the US and Spain were still in recession -make your mind up.
Dimwits outrank nowits,so please be respectful
First world war General stuff from the goverment: “These figures reinforce the need for the policies we are enacting”. When you are making the economy worse and worse and worse, month after month, might that suggest a new strategy is needed?
The only thing left is to approach the loan sharks.
We av soma good terms.
I wouldn’t lend anything to this mob…
QE = LOANSHARKS
The people will wake up to this fact shortly
As was observed by a learned conspirator recently, definition of insanity, repeatedly do the same thing but expect a different result
Field Marshall “Insanity” Brown and General “Mad Dog” Darling invite you to the complete destruction of the British economy.
Commentary for those who are not yet indoctrinated into ZaNu Lie Baaah thinking by Damian McPoison and Dolly Draper, because it’s the right thing to do.
Lobby briefing this AM
“These figures reinforce the view that we should continue to take the action we are already taking”
I am sure he was desperate to mention the evil tories being isolated & on the wrong side and that he was leading the world blah blah
Absolutely no sorrow or contrition………
“Wrong on the recession, wrong on the still in recession” will have to be Gordon’s new slogan.
print more money. the pound is going to zero. there will be a war in Britian.
Germany, France and Japan have all come out of recession and the UK hasn’t.
Nor has US and Spain
Germany and France = centre-right governments.
US, Spain and UK = lefite governments.
Centre-right governments get you out of recession six months earlier than leftie ones. They also lead you with a lot less debt.
haa ha aha ha ha. Sarko is a leftie.
and you point is? I suspect Guido has counterparts in those countries so please feel free to go forth and blog. Put the lights out on your way.
That’s alright then. Hoon.
The lowest interest rates in over 300 years weren’t introduced for nowt, Fawkes. We’re fooked, Fawkes.
Brown Press Conference Friday 5pm;
Adam Boulton from Sky;
“Prime Minister,these latest terrible economic figures really do confirm that the country is in a terrible mess,don’t they?”
Brown,fixing who he thinks must be the evil Sky man in the audience with his most hate-filled and demonic stare;- although he can’t see further than the clunking fist twitching around and stabbing the lectern;
“This again proves that the Tories are wrong on EVERYTHING – we are the Party to lead the country OUT of recession”
A gasp goes up amongst the reporters as Peter Mandelson appears from the door behind Brown,accompanied by two men in white coats,one carrying a syringe.
Within 20 seconds,Brown is stretchered off and Mandelson takes to the stage;
“Mr Boulton and all you other scum,I am now the Lord Prime Minister (LPM to you) and declare that all General Elections have been banned until we have eradicated poverty in every country other than Britain – the next press conference will be in 10 years time”.
Mandelson exits left,carried by 4 men aloft on a throne.
Somebody must tell Brown he is in a hole and he must stop digging. Come on Mandelson….be a “man” and get Brown to go, you owe it to the British public.
Not until that inconvenient Mr Klaus in Prague has been made to see the error of his ways…
Perhaps you can help.
Apart from the Oppostion, which economists or reputable commentators are suggesting that stimulus measures should be stopped now?
Conservitudes, wrong on the recession, wrong on the recovery.
and you think printing funny money putting the people of this country up to their necks in debt and damaging our currency is the answer?
that turky just will not fly MB.
tell you what, stick the kettle on and make all the lads a nice cup of tea.
and while you are in the kitchen getting a brew on the men can talk sensibly about this issue.
thanks love.
two sugars.
Choo! Choo!
None, no economists or reputable commentators are suggesting stopping stimulus measures now.
Care to know why?
Answer:
Because to stop stimulus measures now would cost more and lead to a greater debt burden and incalculable damge to the real economy, especially small and medium sized businesses.
Imagine your house is on fire.
The stimulus measures are water being hosed on to the flames to put the fire out. If you keep trying to put the flames out with water you have a chance of saving more of the house.
The Conserivtude position is to stop the stimulus measures now, that is turn off the hoses, let the fire rage through the house and watch the house burn down to the ground. Their ‘policy’ would cause more damage and cost more. Mainly because their policy is to do nothing and let the recession/fire run its course.
Lesson over
gordon brown is like an arsonist who has set fire to the finances of the country.
he is now throwing petrol on the fire and you are egging him on.
brown has fucked up, the bankers have fucked up, the rating agencies have fucked up and the economists you quote have all completely changed their previous positions.
there are no experts with any credibilty on this matter.
the borrowing must stop MB. you are like a credit card holder who has maxed out but is begging for more and more credit. that is the wrong way ahead, the debt must be reduced. or the cost of the debt will rise exponentially.
the debt must be reduced, even if it is only by a small amount the debt must be reduced.
the long term cost of not reducing the debt will be far more expensive than if we act now.
any cuts that will need to be made to public spending should be made from the top down and the bankers will have to be heavily taxed and their wages will have to be greatly reduced to allow more liquidity to flow through the general economy.
you are barking up the wrong tree MB.
your prescription to get this country out of recession is completely wrong.
now, I couldn’t have a couple of slices of bakewell tart with my tea could I?
Tat,
Withdrawing stimulus measures too early will lead to far greater debt.
It will cost more.
That’s why every country has stimulus measures in place.
It’s only the Conservitudes who would let it run its course, do nothing, let the house burn down that think differently.
It may be difficult for dimwits to understand but it’s true all the same.
That’s all
bollocks MB, the debt is getting out of hand and must be brought under control.
the monopoly money that gordon is printing is not even getting out into the wider economy it is all being soaked up by the criminals in the banking sector.
you are pissing in the wind ‘fraid.
the debt is out of control.
you refuse to accept that truth.
now never mind all this money stuff that you don’t understand properly, where is my bakewell tart?
honestly MB, you will never find a husband if you continue to be so slow in providing such basic needs as bakewell tarts amd cups of steaming tea.
you should forget all the high minded stuff, you women should stick to tea and cakes.
that is more than enough to occupy your minds.
Withdrawing stimulus measures too early would lead to higher debt.
It’s better to be too late than too early, it just is.
Keep calm and the brain might operate more efficiently.
Go on, just try it.
you are not making any sense at all MB.
the stimulus isn’t even directed at the productive parts of the economy.
bit like tax credits, 40% of which are not claimed by those on the lowest wages.
labour always make things so complicated that they are bound to fail.
oh well, your party will be out of power soon so it doesn’t really matter what you say any more.
your party had its chance MB but you blew it, too fixated on war and occupation and destroying other peoples countries instead of improving this one.
shame really, innit.
you and people like you have let down the workers very badly indeed.
shame on you MB, now take your propaganda elsewhere, it is not even amusing anymore it is just vulgar justification of an untenable position, a position your stupid and selfish party got itself into.
I think top boy has just found his very special bottom boy.
tat’s been lured in to trying to be coherent, that’s all.
Lots. Look it up.
What I see in you, MB, is an adherent of a cult. Blind faith. You are in a pathological state of denial. Your socialist theology (for that is what it is) has left you floundering like a flat-earther or creationist frantically dragging up past certainties to maintain your precious ‘Socialist God’, your theories which have always, and will always, end in failure.
That comment was pointless.
This comment is not.
Withdrawing economic stimulus early will lead to far greater government debt and long term damage to the UK economy. Stopping stimuls too early will cost more than stopping stimulus too late.
It may be a point that people agree with but it is a point. Some people are too dim to make a point.
Possibly we can agree that in the long term many sections of society are in for a prolonged period of difficulty. The question then returns however to the difference between the Conservitudes and Labour and the policies they will or would follow in those straitened times.
It’s unfettered ‘free market’ neo-liberal fundamentalism and a kleptocratic financial oligopoly what ‘dunnit’.
Hahahaha
“You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt. And when you repeat, in that wooden and perfunctory way, that our situation is better than others, that we’re ‘well-placed to weather the storm’, I have to tell you that you sound like a Brezhnev-era apparatchik giving the party line. You know, and we know, and you know that we know that it’s nonsense! Everyone knows that Britain is worse off than any other country as we go into these hard times. The IMF has said so; the European Commission has said so; the markets have said so – which is why our currency has devalued by thirty percent. And soon the voters too will get their chance to say so. They can see what the markets have already seen: that you are the devalued Prime Minister of a devalued government.” Daniel Hannan
Mb all 35 reputable economic commentaors FAILED to predict that we would still be in recession. Every fucking one of them. They ALL. Failed to see the deepest and worst recession on record coming in the first place. The simple fact is, Brown has fucked this country sideways! He is a total and complete failure however one may choose to measure it.
Mr Ned, there are leaks from Number 10 that the ONS deliberately made the figures bad for political reasons. These labour cnts think everybody plays the same games as they do.
They just do not see what harm they have and are doing to this country.
Mrs “Balls-up” Yvette Cooper will probably be sent to the TV studios soon to defend Brown’s position on the economic recovery. She will announce that all the money we didn’t have and had to print is being well spent, it’s the right thing to do, spend the taxpayers money to save Britain from the economic disaster that started in America. I doubt Darling will be on TV anytime soon defending his position.
Darling’s claiming that confidence in the economy is beginning to return:
http://page.politicshome.com/uk/confidence_in_economy_beginning_to_return_darling_insists.html
Ahhh – the boy wonder Cooper Balls – with that odd look on her face as if even having to THINK about speaking to the scum called the ordinary people of Britain is SUCH a bore and such a diversion to counting the £15,000 per month that she and her grotty bully boy husband earn each month,as well as remembering to claim the £400 per month food bill while a pensioner gets £93 a week.
Ahhh – THAT Cooper………
Cooper— yuk
Balls—— puke, bully
Vaz——- Twat
Straw—- Shrunken, lying, Puny
Cricket bat —- mmmm yes
Baseball bat—– Oh yes.
Hiking boots,size 12,—-mmmm
Reasoned argument, oh well. I suppose so
Something very strange has happened to both Balls’ and Cooper’s heads. Trapped in some sort of sexual vice, methinks.
AND she will announce that we have repaid it all anyway, just as the lying flat-chested slut lied a couple of years back!
Pace, Mastur Bator, you don’t have to think of boyish girls as you bash the bishop, just your normal boyish boys.
Despite the Prime Mentalist’s lies that Britain is “best placed to weather the global turbulence” it looks increasingly like Britain will be the last G7 country out of recession…
…and all that wasted spin yesterday about expectations showing growth, and coming out of recession yesterday…especially from al jebeeba
Apart from the US oh yes and Spain.
This Chancellor is leading the rest of the world in taking us out of recession.”
- Gordon Brown, 3rd June 2009
“Britain is better placed than other economies to withstand the slowdown in the global economy… the reforms we have made since 1997 – independence for the Bank of England and tough fiscal rules – mean that Britain is now more resilient and better prepared to deal with future shocks.”
- Alistair Darling, 12th March 2008
Spain, that economic giant! what a berk.
20% unemployment in Spain already.
United Kingdom 2,645,593 million dollars GDP 2008
Spain 1,604,174 million dollars GDP 2008
Spain GDP 60% of UK GDP
all right Del Boy?
Spain’s black economy fills the gap and more.
By the same token the figures exclude the UK’s vast black economy.
What the heck are those numbers supposed to show MB (you imbecile)? Spain’s economy is smaller than Britain’s. So what, it always has been.
In any event, the fact that the Socialist Utopia south of the Pyrennes is collapsing in on itself with totally predictable certainty is no cause for celebrating the fact that McBust’s idiocy is, with equal certainty, doing the same for Britain.
Your sole “argument” for your continued shilling for McBust is that Spain is collapsing faster than Britain. Brilliant!!
MB – there are millions more on Incap, and millions of over 50s not claiming. We are at least around 7 million unemployed, and getting worse by the day. You however, could make all the difference, by GETTING employed and fucking off.
Australian,
A few days ago he tried to boost Japans Lost Decade as something the UK could look forward to.
He’s pathetic.
Getting back to the important subject of Gordon’s biscuits, I think Nutter Butters were just created for him. Actually, I rather like them too!
These are his favourites:
http://www.tunnock.co.uk/caramelwafer.html
Soon they’l’ be whirled feymus, aye!
Bugger! That’ll put the price up for me as well. Please, let McSnot-Gobbler start praising Irn Bru (I hate that stuff), and leave the Tunnocks Caramel Wafers alone.
These might also be to his taste:
http://tiny.cc/Cbyg6
And after all I’ve done for this country, this is the thanks I get. Well, stuff you all!
I fought in the war y’know
Yes, thank you Jack Straw’s father, we all feel like we’ve been well and truly stuffed.
Cowardice. It’s in our DNA. Gordon said so.
in the real world people are struggling……..many companies are on the edge……
just wait until the vat has to go up and the car scrappage money stops……..car sales dropped 10% when the u.s scheme ended!!!!!!
then look at the national debt,accrued interest and the trade deficit………
the imbeciles brown badger and mandy should be sacked today!!!!!!!!
£7000 per second is being squandered!!!!!!!!
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Here’s an interesting piece about the “forgotten depression” of 1920. It was forgotten because it was over very quickly. And it was over very quickly because the government saw fit to leave the bloody thing alone and let it run its course.
Boom and bust is part of the dynamic of the free market. Interfere with it at your peril – as Hoover and Roosevelt found to everyone’s cost.
Good article
Cheers
Makes you think what real arseholes Labour (amongst others) are!
Ignore history at our peril, again and again, insanity
> Boom and bust is part of the dynamic of the free market.
Boom and Bust are part of the credit cycle, and credit volume is regulated by the State.
What state?
It’s global, silly billy.
The state can regulate banks. Make them not lend money they havent got.
Let’s see any ’state’ regulate, for example, Goldman Sachs.
Hahahaha
Do you know someone with a Goldman sachs mortgage, or business loan?
Sorry, of course not, you don’t know anyone with a mortgage or a business loan.
Yes of course
Hahahaha
Take this too:
Mervyn King, just the other day.
“The sheer creative imagination of the financial sector to think up new
ways of taking risk will in the end, I believe, force us to confront the “too important to fail” question. The belief that appropriate regulation can ensure that speculative activities do not result in failures is a delusion.”
Concentrate on the last sentence.
Hahahaha
He’s agreeing with us, not you, you complete fool.
He’s basically saying “we need to control the volume of credit in our currency monopoly”.
He is saying that the concept of ‘too big to fail’ permitted the banks to bypass the concept of moral hazard. There should be no entity that is too big to fail. The free market will ‘kill’ the excessive risk taker. The state cannot in future be held to ransom by banks who believe that come what may, they will be bailed out.
The risk (and fear) of bankruptcy concentrates the mind better than any regulator.
Concentrate on the full quotation and you will (perhaps) see that your analysis is plain wrong.
You have ideological blinkers on.
The Labour government reduced VAT, borrowed like there was no tomorrow and even printed money. None of it has worked. Only a change of government can bring economic revival.
Jonah’s special ‘blessing’ strikes again. Get off the boat, Brown. And can we have those billions back now please? Hello? Gone for an early winter break, typical.
Forget what the experts say, listen to me
August was a disaster, it coincided with europen holidays and no stockholding in the UK to sell
UK industrial output is on the way up, factories are flat out, lead times are increasing.
I am betting on the GBP to go to 1.18 by February
piss off shill.
Tractor production is at an all time high comrades!
“factories are flat out”
I presume you’re talking about the De La Rue plants.
No flat packed and in the post, destination China
Flat on their backs, more like.
Back to the island of Dr Moreau with you, sonny. Or LabourList; they amount to the same thing.
Factories flat out?
“Total production output declined in the third quarter, decreasing by 0.7 per cent, compared with a fall of 0.5 per cent in the previous quarter. Mining and quarrying made the largest contribution to the decline falling by 3.5 per cent, compared with a fall of 0.6 per cent in the previous quarter. Manufacturing output fell by 0.2 per cent compared with a decrease of 0.1 per cent in the previous quarter. Electricity, gas and water supply fell by 0.6 per cent compared with a decrease of 3.6 on the previous quarter. ” NSO
That’s 1.18 to the Zim Dollar, I assume you mean.
Factories…. yes. Remind me. What are they? Long time since I saw one.
€ per £ 1.09 -1.58%
$ per £ 1.64 -1.61%
FT £/$/€ since lunchtime — the £s in free fall…
The markets are very jittery and pessimistic about the pound.
However – bad news gets a reaction, but it tends to recover slowly over approx a day.
I wonder how much the Original poster has bet on this.
€ per £ 1.09 -1.88%
$ per £ 1.63 -1.92%
Nope. No recovery on the day… £ still in free fall.
Poo
Did you see matthew normans article in the Indy about Jack Straw?
Yes – very good and shows that Straw is the danger,not prat Griffin – one’s in power and screwing us,the other will never be in power and is screwing himself.
Well said!
What we need is someone to lead us out of this mess. I don’t see anyone out there who remotely fits the bill. You had all better hope that is just because my old eyes are so bleary, and not because there is nobody there.
FFS we are not sheep, we employ Administrators to administrate the country for us, as we have better things to do.
We do not need LEADERS, especially in the economy.
No leaders, no thank you. Thanks,but no leaders.
Thank you very much but no. Bit of chat. decide what to do.
Do it.
BYE BYE GORDON GORDON GOODBYE
BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE GORDON
DON’T CRY GRIFFIN GRIFFIN DON’T CRY
BYE BYE GRIFFIN GOODBYE
YOU’RE A PAIR OF ONE EYED NONCES
WE’VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR FASCIST NONSENSE
BYE BYE GORDON AND GRIFFIN GOODBYE
BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE FASCISTS
HOPE YOU CATCH A DISEASE AND HOPE THAT YOU DIE
DIE DIE HOPE YOU TWO DIE
YOU TWO C’UNTS ARE JUST THE SAME
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOUR PARTY’S NAME
BYE BYE GORDON AND GRIFFIN BYE BYE
DON’T CRY LOSERS LOSERS DON’T CRY BOO HOO HOO
BROWN AND GRIFFIN ARE TWO CHEEKS OF THE SAME BACKSIDE
FUCKING PAIR OF ANTI SOCIAL WANKERS
the figures are all fiddled anyway………..for gdp take out govt spending for the last 10 years and we are NEGATIVE every quarter……….
its ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY DO U THINK WE HAVE 8 MILLION ECONOMICALLY INACTIVE ADULTS?
(o.n.s web site)
wake up-we are in shit strasse!!!!!!!!
Can’t wait to continue paying for the olympics, and soon the football world cup, and then the cricket, what about Rugby WC?
Let the longest flush of a once great Nation be live on International TV for the whole decayed
David Milliband to the rescue!
great one!
I’m busy doing nothing
Working the whole day through
Trying to find lots of things not to do
I’m busy going nowhere
Isn’t it just a crime?
I’d like to be the Leader – but
I never do have the time!
La, la, la-la la la etc.
We are now seeing the result of Brown’s years of hubris when he was the “most successful post-war Chancellor”(allegedly according to the BBC at the time)and his litany of failed policies starting on 2 May 1997 when he failed to regulate the financial markets properly;sold gold at bottom of the market and destroyed one of the world’s healthiest private pension regimes in the World to pay for his unaffordable spending plans and massive increase in the public sector. He actively encouraged the banks and newly formed banks aka Northern Rock/Bradford & Bingley to expand and lend 125% “uncertified” mortgages to people who could barely manage a piggy-bank let alone a mortgage.At the same time he encouraged the rash consumer spending boom financed mainly on credit under the unspoken slogan “You may be only a check out operator but you too can live the celebrity lifestyle”.By these policies he ensured that when the “cold winds of recession and banking failure” blew across the Atlantic that the UK was one of the worst placed,if not THE worst placed economy to survive and climb quickly out of recession. At the same time he threw billions of pounds at the banks and continues to throw billions of pounds into the economy ensuring that not only has he condemned this generation to years of austerity and being saddled with debt but our children and their still yet unborn children and STILL he is in denial and preens himself on the World stage as the “Man who saved the global banking system” whilst other World leaders sneer and laugh at him not even any longer behind his back. He is a weak Prime Minister who clings onto power at the whim of an unelected “panjandrum”.
This is just his offences on the management of the economy. I haven’t even touched on his lack of proper funding of our armed forces when he was Chancellor which has resulted in the loss of lives.
The man is a disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.He can’t even make a decision regarding the type of biscuit he prefers whilst the country goes down the pan. It’s been said that Mandelson is his “life support”but even he is now actively conniving behind his back to cut a deal with Milband to save the Labour Party. Will nobody put national interest first ! We need an election but Brown continues to hang on to power even as his fingernails scrape along the ground towards the precipice of electoral oblivion.
Hear hear!
The whole economy was fuelled on dodgy credit
Good late Friday morning rant.
Well said, apart from one thng, he doesn’t even have nails.
Mandlescum will only connive with those he can control or bribe to achieve his aims & objectives.
Brown is a bit of a Berk is he not?
The Bruin says this is no time for a novice and he is certainly an expert, an expert in uncontrolled demolition.
Woolarse on DP. Trout Mask Replica.
Hi Ella, Paella guru
Jacqui, She’s Too Much for My Mirror…
I don’t think Captain Beefheart would want to be associated with that.
I remember listening to Trout mask Replica at the Co-op record booth!
It was such a relief!
I realised that I was not alone!
ONH – Remember Frank Zapper and the Mothers of Invention?
I’m a little pimp with my hair gassed back
Pair a khaki pants with my shoe shined black
Got a little lady … walk the street
Tellin’ all the boys that she cain’t be beat
Twenny dollah bill ( I can set you straight )
There ain’t no Santa Claus on the evening stage.
Unfortunately he fell to bits after The Spotlight Kid. Clear Spot has a couple of decent tracks, but after that his output was dire. Then he stopped recording and retired to the desert to paint pictures, then he died.
Here endeth the biography of D. van Vliet, lunatic and eccentric, and sorely missed.
Things just keep getting worse for Brown
Hardly a day goes by without another crisis
Still these is a core support for him.
Heard that some senior labourites want to lose this election because they fear that if they win the forced cuts (IMF looking over their shoulder) will destroy the labour party leading to a liberal resurgence.
Let the tories do the hard yards and labour could bounce back they whisper.
Good work, Comrade Brown! Soon the entire structure of capitalism will collapse under the wieght of its own contradictions! You tactic of destroying the banks while leading the public to hate bankers for their offensive displays of oligopolistic wealth has been masterly! The masses begin to realise their alienation! I salute you from beyond the grave!
How’s the Parisian itch comrade? *guffaws*
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6415120/Britain-still-in-recession-Gordon-Browns-rescue-plan-accused-of-failure.html
No No. You’ve got it wrong – gordon says everything’s fine and going according to plan.
darling says the economy will be growing again by the end of the year – he just doesn’t say which year.
ha ha
“gordon says everything’s fine and going according to plan”…think about it and be afraid be very afraid! (what’s the agenda?).
Griffin has got my vote and my families, I don’t give a flying fuck anymore, call me racist, facist the works seriously past caring what no marks who never did anything for me or my family think.
I am not being lectured to and having my kids go without by immigrants Jack Straw and unelected Warsi wobbler who refuse to recognise as an English person, I have a right to exist.
He got one thing right that stuck in my mind, Labour or any of the other lot on that panel wouldn’t dare tell the Chinese or Africans they weren’t the indigenous people of their lands.
Griffin was set up last night by BBC lefties. Where was the balanced audience?
He’s lodging a formal complaint with BBC saying he was set up by a lynch mob.
BBC may have shot itself in foot.
If the BBC really wanted to make Griffin look bad, they should have let the audience ask what the Bee En Pee would do about the recession, Afghanistan, etc. Basically anything other than immigration and racism.
See how quickly Griffin gets out of his depth and drowns.
Well no one else has any answers, lets not bring up the draw bridge they said well so did Nick Griffin time and time again.
Even the liberal democrat backed him up, every time the government gives us a figure on immigration the real figure is three or four times bigger than they say.
That Warsi woman was rambling on about how Nick Griffin was stereotyping her religion, well it was her on tv a few weeks ago saying arranged marriages in her religion was wrong blah blah blah.
They are all liars, but at least Griffin credits me with a modicum of intelligence and has nailed his colours to the wall to be judged instead of saying anything and promising the world just to get into power like the big two did.
I think Griffin was trying to tone it down a bit so that he gets a future invite onto QT.
Unfortunately that led to him denying having said stuff that is on record and making absurd comments such as the Klu Klux Klan member that he knows “is not in the violent bit”.
As you said, they’re all liars. I think that includes Griffin – he’s just not very good at it and will never be in the same league as the forked tongued Jack Straw.
Balanced audience,eh?
For the audience to have been balanced to the BNP’s share of the vote they would have had 0.6 of a person per 100 members in support??
…That 0.6 of a person was indeed there.You remember?…the guy who said that ” immigration was all the Tories fault..innit”.
Balanced audience,eh?
For the audience to have been balanced to the BanP’s share of the vote they would have had 0.6 of a person per 100 members in support??
…That 0.6 of a person was indeed there.You remember?…the guy who said that ” immigration was all the Tories fault..innit”.
Reply
Griffin’s vote will increase because of last night I regret to say.
Where did the 0.6 per 100 (0.6%) come from? Surely it’s far more than that.
Only ONE bloke asked an intelligent question about the party’s wider policies whereupon the editor(s) swiftly cut to one of their placemen steering the subject back to the old racial aspects AGAIN. I don’t much like Gryphon and his pro-Zionist views, but I like bias from an organisation I’m obliged to fund even less.
Pravda spinning like hell on the DP.
Wollyarse banging on about “the real economy”, FFS.
What’s that then Phil ? We’ve all been wrong and now the Dear Leader is going to tell us that the “real economy” is something completely else ? That we’re not really in a recession ? Bollocks.
Oh and then it’s “nasty Tories will bring back fox hunting. Booo !!!!”. Like there’s nothing else to consider right now.
Bunch of bollock-brained automata. Needs cutting.
Woollyarse is effing awful
a real nightmare of a man
Don’t understand why we are importing Nigerians to be Traffic Wardens when there are millions of Brits on the dole. Oi Brown, get it sorted or fuck off.
Oh why not; here in our little market town in Somerset, we have imported Eastern Europeans to sell Big Issue. Fair’s fair and all that.
They are making a valuable contribution to the UK Economy.
Mainly Helping the police and prison building industry.
Hey Meester, you buy Beeg Issue Pleeze?
Oh we’ve got one of those outside Waitrose… “Beeeeeg Isu!”
I took her aside and said she’d be better off if she went home to her family.
I’m always compelled to buy the Big Issue
If I can. It doesn’t matter what the seller
looks like,dribbling,trying to play the mouth organ,
puking. I just have to buy.
I also can’t turn the radio off going over a bridge.
Do you think I’m ok.
No.
Probably because they advertise in Nigeria ? Africa is Browns Number One priority after all and just like climate change it is up to Britain to do the most of any other country.It is after all “the right thing to do!”
Just watched Nick Cohen, Observer journalist, on the Daily Politics. I’d swear he was reading his comments directly from a Bunker Broon Line-To-Take handout. What a Tosser!
He did a better job of sticking to Brown’s analysis of the economy than 90% of cabinet ministers.
I’d sack the 35 shit analysts. I was certainly expecting this and it will continue getting worse from here….. QE, bangers for cash and low interest rates will all have to end soon before Labour finally fuck this country into oblivion
“Bangers for cash” just helped people who wanted to buy a car, buy a car. Funnily enough they then didn’t spend the money on non-car stuff.
This meant B4C harmed the wider economy.
It also helped the the overseas car manufacturesNOT the British(but then again have we actually got any British Car Manufactiurer’s left in the volume market ?)
Still 2m cars ‘made’ in the UK last year.
This is no ordinary recession, this is a Nu-Liebour recession…
OT, but did Brillo really call Diane Abbot and Michael Portillo the “chocolate Hobnob and Custard Cream of politics” last night?
Why couldn’t Diane Abbot bring herself to call
old Ballsatingcabbagetripe a bully?
I thought she was braver than that.
Not when it comes to jeopardising her cushy job. Balls is one of the few who could order her replacement come the next election and she knows it.
What makes you think Talking Horse Spheroids is safe, come the next election?
Saw it & confirm he did. The two biscuits just laughed.
Portillo — more of a cream puff, if you arsk me.
I’m surprised Abbot didn’t run howling to the Racial Equality Commission, of whatever it’s called nowadays.
I have some green shoots in my garden
Chances are I’ll shoot some greens in my garden.
If any Greens get into my garden I’ll not shoot them: shooting isn’t painful enough for those morons.
I have some in my carpets.
I’ll be right around with my “Weedol” then !!!
P.s. Did I tell you that there is only 46 days 13 hours 09 minutes to save the World ?
Can I have a cutting please?
Green shoots and springs.
The 0.4% contraction will be revised upwards to a 0.2% contraction, which will be spun as a 0.2% improvement in the economy.
They’ve done it before.
And Darling was threatening that in an interview on Pravda just now – wait until we have massaged the figures.
Strange tactics.Why did the Govt spin that the ONS would show growth? News outlets flag it up and everyone is pleased that the recession is ending. Were they just guessing?
Now they have to back pedal and unwind from this position and look even more incompetent.
Why didn’t they either say nothing or say that growth was around the corner
Because they believe their own bullshit.
And there is nothing more catastophic than that.
The light at the end of the tunnel is that the ONS doesn’t, and there was no premature leak of the statistics.
“End to boom and bust” Gordon Browns most repeated quote.
From Henry Macrory
“We are now coming out of recession as a result of the actions we have taken.” (Gordon Brown, Andrew Marr Show, 26 Sept )
“This Chancellor is leading the rest of the world in taking us out of recession.” Gordon Brown, Hansard, 3 June 09
Lies, damned Lies, and Gordon Brown Quotes.
Go on, Who was this REALLY a shock for?
What has the government done to remove it’s economic shrinkage effect? Nothing! If anything it’s expanded it’s role in wealth destruction (50% income extortion, more mal-regulation).
They couldn’t even pretend that inflation was economic growth.
Once we subtract the growth in Debt from the GDP figures we’ll see the real horror that is a socialised economy.
O/T sorry just for a minute.
griffen is complaining to the BBC that they changed the format for last night’s QT and that it left him at a disadvantage.
He is demanding that the BBC invite him back to do another QT but that the programme should be held away from london where there would be less immigrants in the audience.
If Griffin didn’t like the questions or the audience he had the choice to walk out, it’s still a free country….I think!
That’d be “The Orkneys” then ?
Bloody norsemen. Kick them out.
Well I hope they don’t invite him back any more – I mean if you take the man away from his odious policies and look at him – it is clear he is a very poor quality, mediocre politician that rates even lower than gordon or straw.
BUT I was disappointed at the direction of the programme. If they had invited four high profile panellists to sit alongside him – like hague and harpy harriett and then allowed him to be asked serious questions like ‘ what would you do to get us out of recession? – or what would you do global warming?”
He would have been shown up, even more clearly, as a man of shallow and bigoted views.
The BBC did not handle it as well as they could have done and neither did straw and huhne.
Audience demographics did appear to be a shade different form the norm for QT.
Didn’t see many people who appeared to the over 40 in the faces and even had a comment from one of Pravda’s commentators first thing on this morning’s B1 news that the audience was “overloaded with ethnic minorities”.
Typical AlJaBeeba : Didn’t have the confidence that Griffin would come across as badly as he did (as most of us thought) and had to load the deck to get the desired result. Law of unintended consequences : They’ve given Griffin a legitimate cause for complaint and played right into his “I’m a victim” ruse.
and helped sow the seeds of the TV Tax going (good!).
…. and it will come back as an internet tax…………
Did I hear right? Did Jack Straw actually say last night that the only reason we won the First and Second World Wars was because of African and Asian Soldiers. Funny, I thought it was because of the late intervention by the Americans and their massive arms manufacturing industry.
Obviously Straw didn’t go to the right school, his histroy is a little mixed up, there were no New Labour academies in his school days.
Jack Straw is an ass and a liar.
And his father was a coward, Marxist, philanderer.
The Straw family would not gain entry to the UK even with the “new” points system we have in place (for a work permit) now for immigrants.
or perhaps it was the selfless amount of uk citizens who some as young as 14 or 15 signed up and dint shit themselves hiding like jacks commie parents?
the man is an odiuos hoon!
yes, the americans did decide very late on to join our fight against the nazis.
I think they waited until they could see a bit clearer who was going to win.
there is no doubt in my mind that the americans would have done a deal with hitler if he had appeared to have the upper hand.
the americans would have appeased the nazis by letting them have all of europe.
Crap. Roosevelt was the best friend we ever had. He needed Pearl Harbour to get past Congress. Disparagement of the U.S. is not something that is at all common amongst people who were in London in 1940.
hmm.. you are obviously unaware that prescott bush, george bush’s grandfather financed the nazis and you must also be unaware that IBM supplied the computers to monitor those killed in the concentration camps(the numbers on their arms were input into the IBM machines) you must furthermore be unaware that the americans were showing nazi propaganda in new york up until the early 1940’s and soldiers holding nazi flags headed american army processions.
it would have been very easy branding wise because ofcourse the americans and nazis both have double headed eagles as their icons.
and let us not forget that the KKK are still allowed to operate freely in america.
america is very comfortable indeed with fascism so my suggestion is not at all far fetched.
IBM desktops in 1941?
They were invented by the Japs in 1939. Google Earth was in it’s infancy which explains why they didn’t bomb their intended target- Poole Harbour!
Might he have meant the Asian and African troops fighting on the Axis side?
and the usual suspects…
Can’t recall any WW1films and history books showing African and Asian soldiers going over the top.
Educate yourself then. Here’s a start
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwone/india_wwone_01.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_Divisions_in_World_War_II
The huge WW1 cemetery at Etaples has graves of all sorts of nationalities – I never knew that there were Chinese killed in the trenches, but they are buried there – a lot of Sikhs, and others.
Don’t know about Asians, but there was an awful lot of Rhodesians and South Africans involved. All white of course. Ian Smith (the much reviled caller of UDI) was flying a Spitfire over London in 1940. The likes if me were on the ground urging him on.
Two divisions of West Africans fought on the border of India against the Japanese in WW2. Largest divisions in the Army as they carried supplies themselves.
The Americans came into the War in 1917 after the “European Powers incl the British Empire had bled to death and fought themselves to a standstill ! But before then there were plenty of “Indian Army” soldiers who had died in their millions on the battlefields of western France – alone the British regular Forces and Kitcheners Army could not have supplied Haig(who was incidentally “Indian Army”)with sufficient “cannon fodder”. Indians,Sikhs,Jamaicans etc and other races fought.bled and died alongside us in both World Wars – that is why we have the “blood debt” to the Commonwealth.But the problem isn’t with citizens of the Commonwealth it’s with the UNREGULATED economic migrants from eastern europe swamping some towns particularly in East Anglia and over whom we have no control at all and nobody who was arguing against Griffin on QT panel was able to answer how we could deal with THAT problem in between all the racist rants and counter-rants
Parasites like Straw and his communist friends are all the same attaching themselves to past glories and bandwagons that they had nothing to do with to promote themselves and the sick ideology they follow.
They are the scum that survive by hiding like rats while the true men die doing all the leg work, then the scum come out unopposed and rule the place how they like.
My dad fought in world war 2, he also fought as volunteer in Korea for a year against the coms and also helped intelligence during the Cold War against the coms.
By todays standards he and his friends would be locked away as a worse racist than Griffin for stating it like it is, no man in ww2 died for the EU or immigrants to come over and abuse the rights hard won or force us to live anyway we want other than how we wish to live.
He must be rolling in his grave 90 to the dozen at the state of the world today.
… and we must have just imagined that there were more than a few Americans, Canadians, Newfies, Australians and New Zealanders who voluntarily laid down their lives in both World Wars (to say nothing of the Rhodesians and White South Africans who, no doubt are not “Africans” in Strawman’s book).
I seem to recall there were also more than a few “native” Britons, French, Poles, Dutch, Norwegians, Belgians, Italians, Serbs etc etc involved on the allied side in one or both wars.
Straw really is the Scum di tutti Scum.
Not to support Straw, but there were a great many black and indian commonwealth troops who aided us in both WW1 and 2. I hardly think this is a secret. How much difference they made? hard to say, but as i think we’re all agreed it was a close run thing, perhaps it was, as Straw says, critical. Although of course, yes, the efforts made by the yanks far outpaced anyone else. Apart from us, the aussies, kiwis, saffos… etc…
And the gurkhas.
My great uncle was in north africa y’know. He came back with strings of german ears and half a dozen bren guns. What did jack get? a moth eaten mail sack.
Now about these Bren Guns – don’t happen to have one do you?
Kind of folds up neatly and can be placed on the grassy knoll?
They’re still manufactured in India you know.
‘fraid not. i don’t know what happened to them. There were a hell of a lot of guns around in Brum of the late 60s/early 70s. He and his mates – and I dare say many others – had all sorts from the war. I imagine they’re tucked away somewhere. Not the kind of thing you would scrap, is it?
never know when they might come in handy…
250,000 men from the British Commonwealth, of every creed and every colour, died fighting for Britain in Flanders 1914-1918. (This figure does not include english casualties)
The In Flanders Fields Museum in the rebuilt Cloth Hall in Ypres has a large section dedicated to their memory.
In a true national effort like war each constituent part or contributor is vital to the final result, whether support or front line. To highlight just one element and say that the whole thing could not have been done without that group is simultaneously true but disingenuous and likely to alienate the majority. Will Jack Straw be lauding the white achievements in medicine and science, without which many those of African ancestry would be dead? Thought not.
He truly is a silly little man. Concentrate on culture and not colour, Jackie-boy.
Scat man,
Please translate that comment in to English.
Did ethnic groups who are derided by the fascist bean pee die serving the King of Great Britain in the Great War of 1914 to 1918 or not?
Of course they did: they sacrificed their lives in the same was as everyone else did. My point is that it shoudl be as pointless to highlight their efforts as, say, extolting the fighting abilities of the much-maligned ging-as.
That was truly pathetic.
The bean pee are fascist racist scum, dissociate or associate.
Zanu Labour are socialist Classist scum, dissociate or associate.
The ONLY difference between fascism and socialism is who to victimise.
“The bean pee are fascist racist scum,”
I don’t agree. I agree with this though:
“The bean pee are socialist racist scum,”
They’re everyone’s problem but Labour’s bastard child.
But my Labouoid nonce friend, they were not fighting under their colour, they were figting for the British. But you fail to acknowledge the many Indians who were supportive of the Nazi’s and wanted to use the War to overthrow the British.
So perhaps not all Black and Asians are true to Brtain?
We were the best prepared country to weather the recession, which is borne out by the fact that we will have been the first in and last out of the recession.
I congratulate myself on achieving my goal of no more boom. Now you just need to vote for Labour in the election so that I can have my fourth term that is my divine right and I can carry on saving the world and fix that moral compass.
More tablets please!
I would gladly shove a cyanide pill into your repulsive mouth you piece of traitorous russian spying crap.
And, of course, everyone knows that growth will return to the economy sooner or later, just as it always eventually stops raining. And when it does, Gordon will call a press conference at a school somewhere in east London and cry ‘Rejoice, rejoice. I did it.”
Spunking taxpayers money on non-jobs has the same effect as spraying water in the air. It’s won’t stop “raining” until they stop.
What do you mean non-jobs?
I take it that as it is gone lunchtime on a Friday that you are sending this from home ?
Working from home? Have we done a risk assessment on this?
If I’m in a private company office and they have to contact someone in Rome (the political capital, the financial being Milan), they know better than to try and get hold of them after 4pm, or after midday on Friday.
That’s right
first out of recession !!
first into depression !!
Andrew Neil acknowledges how bad these statistics are for the government.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/dailypolitics/andrewneil/2009/10/much_worse_than_anybody_expect.html
This bit is the best
“I suspect the PM is boiling mad this morning; I hope they’ve locked away the Downing Street staplers and mobile phones.”
It’s Brown they need to lock away and throw away the key!
Maybe something like this is happening:
We have seen a marked increase in sales since June 27 2007
Got to be on the button, just replace the pen hurled at the map with a Nokia.
Drowning Street claim that the Prime Minister didn’t watch QT last night.
What a fucking surprise.
He probably doesn’t like a one-eyed hate filled homo stealing his limelight.
You mean he was looking in the mirror at his reflection?
True – he was in fact wholly absorbed in his Daily Express giveaway DVD: Teletubbies: The Uncut Version.
That would be the “Farmy Farm” episode, directed by Quentin Tarantino.
He was busy giving Sarah one. Cringe what a horrible thought. Feel sorry for Sarah doubt he gets that right either.
He does it by smell.
I also understand he has written to the BBC to complain about the recent Criminal Justice programme for making buggery out to be against the law, it is afterall the only sex he knows.
Rollover Sarah and think of what i would like to do to Dave Cameron and his boy chancellor
His next book on courage is titled I buggers my way around the world and buggered it up now that took some courage.
BBC news at 1 shows footage of a 1980’s demo with ‘Maggie Out’ chants and a comment that unemployment has not quite reached 1980’s levels.
They just had to get that in didn’t they.
It would be good if they could show footage of crowds outside Downing Street shouting “Brown Out”, that is what the country needs and only the people can make it happen.
From “Wiktionary” :
“Brown-out : Temporary dimming of vision, usually with a brown hue and accompanied by loss of peripheral vision or tunnel vision.”
Oddly appropriate……
Lizzie
I am ready to march -have no job and won’t until Brown is ejected and confidence GROWS.
What does it take to get 5 million of us up there to demonstrate peacefully – Brown would HAVE to go – it would be a polite version of Romania with the damned Dictator C’sku.
BUT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS????
BUT WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS????
Answer: Stop paying benefis. Royal Mail might come in handy.
Reaction: Nearer 8 million will be on the streets
Lizzie
You start with the name of the movement / mission – then get a website – then get youtube facebook twitter feeds etc
You then get a blog etc
You then get a personality (carefully – not Fry eg)
The bset web sites are the free open source ones like DRUPAL – used by Britney Spears (even!) and really very good
Someone – probably many can hepl on the operational side
You are not alone
Best wishes
The Countryside Alliance got over 400,000 on the streets of London
Iraq War got some 1 M
Time is a factor
I’d pay good money (well, expenses) if anyone wants to “brown out” on my face.
Meanwhile the private sector continues to be the whipping boy
“The number of people in public sector employment was 6.04 million in June 2009, up 13,000 from
March 2009. The number of people in private sector employment was 22.85 million, down 230,000
from March 2009.”
Well Mrs Thatcher didn’t fiddle the figures with disguised unemployment, such as the Grauniads non-jobs and so many pointless degrees.
72000 people signed ‘the Brown should go and we want an election’ petition on the No.10 Drowning St website.
He’ll be like caucescu right up the end, refusing to believe that we want him to go.
Nell, people are going to have to use their feet and march on Downing Street. What Brown has done to the country is far worse than the introduction any poll tax, and back then there were riots. There was no “blogs” in those days to “vent off” frustrations, but there is nothing like a march to get a point across. Brown needs to be given the message in person I’m afraid.
Trouble is Lizzie one million marched on Downing St in opposition to the Iraq War. Did they listen?
And broon is never gone let go of that drowning street front door key until the very last second after he’s kicked out by a General Election.
I just hope that when he comes out of the door for the last time there’s a fair sized crowd on hand to jeer him out of office.
Hopefully the Hoon will be shot in the heart.
‘Shot in the heart and you’re to blame-you give Gov a bad name’
I thought 4 consecutive quarters of recession was a depression.
Even the Beeboids on WATO had to report this as “the worst recession since records began in 1955″ – then tried to temper the report by saying that “these figures are preliminary, and are often revised later”.
Whatever way you look at it; however you spin it; it’s not good.
A depression is a drop of GDP by 10%.
During the great depression of 1930’s the UK economy dropped by 5%. IIRC
We printed 175 Billion of money…
That’s 10% of GDP. Without all that printing masking the fall what would the real figure be?
15% Fall? Walk along some high-streets and it’s easy to see.
You’re not includig the £175bn government debt requirement for this tax year and probably more next.
What does that make the actual figure? We’re f**ked, really f**ked. And, even if the right decisions are eventually made, it’s going to be unbelievably painful. The vast majority of the UK population don’t have a dickie bird what this depression means for them.
from wikipedia:
depression:
There is no widely agreed upon definition for a depression, though some have been proposed. In the United States the National Bureau of Economic Research determines contractions and expansions in the business cycle, but does not declare depressions.[1] Generally, periods labeled depressions are marked by a substantial and sustained shortfall of the ability to purchase goods relative to the amount that could be produced using current resources and technology (potential output).[2] Another proposed definition of depression includes two general rules: 1) a decline in real GDP exceeding 10%, and 2) a recession lasting 3 or more years.[3][4].
Note: a decline in ** REAL GDP ** exceeding 10%, so if QE is at 10% or more of GDP we could be in a depression even if unadjusted GDP is positive (but small), my learned friend Anti Citizen One @ 728 suggests such a level of QE. Therefore we must be in a depression not recession. Or have I missed something?
One other thing, re population levels — have not a lot of Poles and other East Europeans already gone home? Has this been taken into acount? Add in a continued ‘Brain drain’ and I wouldn’t be surprised if the population was actually falling.
has anybody else had trouble with their bank cards lately?
why is it that an increasing number of lloyds/tsb account holders are having their accounts ’suspended’ when in fact there is no problem – other than the bank wanting to make money out of you when you phone up to find out why they won’t pay your bills even though you have money in your account – maybe their 0870 number should be replaced BECAUSE WE OWN THIS BLOODY BANK THANKS TO GORGON THE MORON
Hello, I’ve just knocked one off the wrist and it was great.
Could you put it up on YouTube?
or a test tube
Griffin has no power and never will.
Brown has the power as PM – massive overweighted power.
More than anything,HE has the power to call or NOT in his case, a General Election.
That power is so corrupting that it is ruining this country – Griffin must be Brown’s favourite person today – smokescreen grade A.
Brown must be thinking the Labour mantra when things go wrong….”good day to bury bad news”.
Nobody in the cabinent has the GUTS to go up to the great leader and say times up, you have had your chance, this is it, enough is enough, time to pack your bags! Can anybody see this will continue to get worse, this is not a gentle drift, this is bad. There has got to be something in the small print that says under these circumstances the PM must stand down, it is just not working.
Still more spinning from AlJaBeeba.
Now we’ve got a replay of “It’s not time for inexperienced hands at the wheel; the Tories would be a disaster; give us more time; we’re doing the right thing”.
FFS. Recycling the attack lines.
Last days in the bunker and the panzer divisions are jut outside the city to save you, Grogon….
Think back in history, the Germans couldn’t remove Hitler either, more suffering to come I’m afraid. Seems Brown is going on to the bitter end, the only one who will stop him is Mandelson, and even he knows the election will be lost by Labour. For Mandelson it is the last days of the Empire.
Lizzie : Too true.
I don’t think anyone in ZaNu land has the nerve/balls/guts/decency to step up to Brhoon and tell him it’s game over, the great Socialism UK experiment has failed *again* – just like is has in the past.
Nothing for Mandy and the other upper-house appointees to do except sit tight and keep on troughing until they drop. I’m not sure they give two shits about the Commons or who’s in or out.
Silver lining ? Potentially ZaNu out for 2 generations, maybe even relegated to being the third party.
It’s just the interim misery between now and then.
Heads down and arm up…..
I think you get the picture, when your on a good thing keep being on a good thing. While Brown is in Downing Steet, Mandelson holds al the power.
Mandelson is there to ensure that there is no election pre-Lisbon and Cameron is there to ensure that there is no referendum post-Lisbon.
It’s a growth rate of -0.4%. What are you miserable proles grumbling about? Sit yourself in front of Strictly Come Dancing with a tin of Asda lager and leave the misery to me!
Thought it was X Factor
(I did call Simon to find out if Susan was ok)
Peter keeps me filled in about the comings and goings of strictly
Alistair Darling interviewed on WATO. Mostly, as one would expect, waffle.
Asked directly if VAT would increase to 17 1/2 % in January, he refused to answer.
VAT at 20% or 25% in January, then?
Yes.
Fred predicts
VAT 20%
Basic Income tax 25%
Small company Corporation tax 25%
Large company Corporation tax 35%
E’ee NI 15%
E’er NI 20%
Capital Gains Tax 40%
Benefits in Kind all up by 20%
All because “it’s the right thing to do for hardworking British families”
At these rates, even pre-school children will have to go out to work.
Look forward to the 1950’s all over again, but this time without Elvis Presley.
Gordon is a moron
Gordon is a moron
Gordon is a moron
So where do we go now? What happens when all the new taxes kick-in next year.
Things are indeed looking very grim.
Quite. Q4 will be depressed as everyone will be slimming Christmas down, and the heating has just been turned on so those energy bills rise. Q1 will be depressed as
those Christmas credit card bills arrive – and people realise just how expensive energy is – and petrol/diesel prices rise – and further food price rises as the pound continues to slide. Nope. Don’t see any sign of a recovery much before mid 2010.
Don’t forget VAT predicted to increase to 20% WHOEVER wins election in 2010
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5252658/20-percent-vat-is-likely-whoever-wins-the-next-election.thtml
Plus the increase in national insurance!
I really am worried for people in the UK.
So am I – but I am working “tirelessly” to save the World.
Only 46 days 12 hours 22 minutes left
Perhaps the caption contest could be of Chauchesku and wife on the balcony as they realise the crowd is JEERING them,not CHEERING them?
We can then replace him with G Brown and A Darling/E Balls?
Nicolae Ceauşescu. Sorry to be pedantic. Although his end would be welcome for
Brown in my book.
Does anyone have the video of them “against the wall”?
I will have – you can then swop Brown and Darling in the video for CHOWCHESSQUEUE as the video I will have will be taken around the back of Downing St with our two “expert economists” as target practice – god knows Brown is the master of targets,one of which he has failed miserably today.
It’s an insult to all he murdered to get his name right – that’s also why we call Blair “Bliar” and Brown “the evil scottish git”.
Euro up 1.5%.
Exports (what exports!) should be dirt cheap after a total sneak 28% devaluation since September 2007. And still no growth after 6 quarters.
No more boom and bust. Just bust.
Total, miserable, abject failure.
Socialist incompetence writ large.
Meanwhile….China Growth 8.9%
China is growing it’s economy because they have factories and industries that are selling goods around the world. Not much these days with “Made in England” on it. Britain is importing more than it is producing in all sectors it seems.
China’s economic stimulus dwarfs all other countries’ stimulus measures, it’s massive, huge, vast, enormous, giant, immense, substantial, get the picture?
and they can get away with it, because they saved it up, unlike some “prudent” chancellors.
Well said, some are more intelligent than others.
And yet the sweet irony is that despite being able to ‘afford’ the stimulus they are facing a cataclysmic drop in demand because their economy is dependent on exports to nations like the US and UK who aren’t buying.
Does this mean that it’s a global crisis, after all.
Hahahaha
Correct. Enormous foreign exchange reserves plus gold. Perhaps Gordon would break out the gold …if it hasn’t been sold off when it was 20% of today’s price.
And sustainable, unlike the Anglos who are in debt up to their eyeballs and can’t afford a stimulus as we shall find out in the coming months.
Anyway Griffin is right. Two men swapping spit with each other in public is repulsive (and offensive) to 99.999% of people. Why did the “selected audience” disagree?
Because they were all promiscuous socialist bummers.
Because the lynch mob could not be seen under any circumstances to agree with anything the odious Griffin had to say.
That is moronic standard of “educated” populace.
A shame more of the mob were not that way inclined as it would untimately lead to a reduction in our population, more girls for people like me to choose from, less benefits costs etc etc
If you watched carefully, a lot of the black and brown faces in the audience were less enthusiastic about putting him down on that issue.
You clowns, your dislike of butch Gordon makes me cross. My mummy is bringing me fish finger sarnies for my lunch. Scrummy!
A wank I think.
Too much information…..
‘Ere!, stop messin’ abahht!
Are you wanking through Master Baiter’s letterbox again George?
Have you finished those 500 lines I gave you yesterday?.
No some munchkin called Putin did them instead, the little sweetie, a bit dim though.
The Tory tanks are on your lawn, fuck face.
I took you for being more of a sandwich spread boy.
.
PLEASE GUIDO
where’s our (Flash) General Election
COUNTDOWN CLOCK ?
Drove through my small town the other day and noted half of it was dying the other hald had a new shopping mall half empty. Ironically across the road from this mall is the job centre and claims office. There were a significant number of people outside and despite passing many times I had not really noted before.
Its started and it can only get worse. I think a political change is not only essential but for survival now has to happen. Attempting to stay in power as people line up outside a benefit office is beyond a disgrace. You had a chance and blew it and its time for the sake of all to call it a day and let someone else have a go. Your experience over an apparent “novice” was worth absolute jack shit given our situation but still you lie and spin to maintain your grip on power. It is little wonder you are the most hated PM and administration ever to darken Westminster and thats bloody saying something.
O/T – thought some post had just arrived, but it was only a recycling bag.
My wife earning some extra money you mean?
An hour ago I’m certain that a Royal Mail Van came down our road(although it was unmarked it was the usual “type”, red and the driver looked as if he was wearing Post Office Uniform i.e. usual blue shirt and orange reflective vest etc).As we live at the bottom of a narrow “Close” vans driving down have to turn in front of our house(their engine noise and reversing thingy always alerts us)to drive back up the road to exit. Now it MAY not have been a “kosher” Royal Mail Van but it was very much like one.
The only shock is they werent worse
http://newslion.blogspot.com/
Gordon will see us through, he will I tell you. As we speak his divisions are throwing back the enemy….
Comical Ali = Master Baiter
‘Ere stop muckin’ abahht!
Want to see a summary of Labour’s achievements?
Watch this video of Brown telling the conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zq-XiBQKWA
At least he’s being honest.
A jaw dropingly good illustration of ZaNu’s care in the community!
Awesome! LoLs.
Brezhnev, eat your fucking heart out.
Latest downfall parody:
I wouldn’t mind a blowjob off Fearne Cotton.
I had to read that twice..I thought you has written Fearne Brittan!
Edith! EDITH! Large GIN, right away.
I am unable to make any anagrams out of “nickgriffinbnp”. However, “nickgriffinfascist” does turn up an interesting “carsick niff fisting” which Gerald will probably find amusing, if he hasn’t already tried it.
Wo ist der Freitag Überschrift streit?
Spain is in Depression.
US going to need a second stimulus soon.
Australia, Japan, France, Germany “technically” out of recession but still in a shit ton of debt.
Can we say keynesian economics have failed again?
You can always say that Keynesian economics have failed. That’s what they do.
Has it EVER worked? No.
We’d be better off with the Euro.
Fuck off.
If “Better off” is a synonym for “absolutely fucked sideways over a barrel by a syphilitic cock”.
Otherwise I beg to disagree. e.g. Ireland, Spain and Baltics (ERM) = fucked.
I would have expected George Osborne to make more of this. He really is useless and needs to be replaced. I think the following (which came from a Tory councillor) says it all; (to the tune of Burlington Bertie)
I’m Bullingdon Georgie
I rise at 10.40
And saunter along like a toff
I stroll down the Mall
With DC whos my pal
As we’re out looking for bits of rough
I’m George, George
My fathers a Lord
My mummys as rich as they come
But everyone knows
All I can do is pose
Cause I’m George and I’m ever so dumb
But it wasnt George who bankrupted our economy was it you fud !
I’m Gordon, Gordon,
An absolute moron,
The economy’s totally rogered.
You’d think there’s a War on
if you look how the score’s gone
and see just how much that I’ve borrered.
I think it’s just dandy
Now I’ve made up with Mandy,
We’re working so closely together.
He’s really hard working,
He’s even stopped jerking,
Tho I know it’s his nest he will feather.
A senior Cabinet Minister gave me that.
Don’t shoot the messenger. I am told that the Bullingdon Georgie song was performed several times at the recent conference (obviously in after hours sessions).
Oh, rite. I mistook your first posting for sarcasm. Consider the messenger accidentally wounded, not shot !
I stood outside Number 10 Downing Street last night, an empty car drew up and out stepped Gordon Brown!
Did he walk in to the wall or did he remember to shake the copper’s hand this time?
Nope, just went into his temporary residence, apparently on a 6 month short term tenency.
Well at least the Genesis song;
“Get ‘em Out By Friday”
will be true when the fraudster eventually gets to the word courage in his dictionary – he probably keeps looking for it under the letter “K” – what a silly bunt.
Cos he will be going on a Friday after Election Thursday (if his attempt to prevent counting happening on Thursday night is stopped).
If I was a cynic I would say that the “Principled” stand of The BBC to allow Nick Griffin onto Question Time fulfilled the goal of those who put them up to it ie it facilitated the creation of a “Hate Figure” a bogey man to distract the electorate from the shannanigans, lies, deciet and incompetence of the Government and MP’s in general and who provides a focus for the media ti draw their attention away from the Bad News elsewhere.
Fortunately I am not a cynic, and I believe we are best placed to beat the recession which is coming to an end shortly..
It has been commented on previously that like his overlord, BBC political editor Nick Robinson goes missing from his Blog for days on end when there are bad stories in the headlinines about his political masters only to return days later with a blog on some anodyne topic involving the Tories . It was however good to note that Nick was up at the crack of dawn posting todays Blog and the evil hate figure Nick Griffin. Funny That.
In retrospect, the kicking of Dick, no sorry Nick, Griffen was as much fun as kicking a kitten. Wrong but fun.
Just heard Bronwyn Curtis (Head of Global Research at HSBC) on wake up to money podcast saying that they expected GDP of possible +0.4%!!
She then went on to predict 2010 as 1.7%
Erm
It’s in the name;
Bronwyn = Brown
A type of deliberate psychological trick – linking Brown with “winning”.
Will never work cos we are cleverer than they think,I think…..
Posted on Youtube one year ago, and guess what the Banking fraternity are already back up to lending mortgages at 6/7 times annual income. Gordon saw this coming, beeeiong!, Gordon saw this coming Beeiong!, Gordon saw this coming Beeoing!
I don’t know what you English are worried about – everything is fine in Wales.
The Assembly wants to expand the use of the Welsh language to private businesses so no doubt English tax-payers will be coughing up to keep the TINY percentage of Welsh people who actually speak Welsh in their VERY well-paid QUANGO jobs.
Keep up the good work England. Sacrifice your own futures so that your taxes keep me in my nice 100K plus a year Welsh QUANGO job. I am about to have kids so I will want them on the gravy train soon also.
Recession? Depression? Blah!
we know your name and where you are – we shall pay a visit tonight to extract monies from you …
Get lost Scottish man who rules England with an iron fist!
Yachi Dda
I was recently in Neath my home town. Peter Hain has wrecked the place.
Since he became MP for Neath, he re-routed the main road which now by-passes the town, causing most pubs to close down, there is not even a cinema! the place is becoming a ghost town. Maybe I should stand against him in the next general election, only problem would be I am a Conservative and Neath in the past has been a safe Labour seat. Perhaps there is hope, I was Neath born and bred and I know the town and it’s people better than Hain will ever know it, that is the only thing in my favour.
Have a crack at Hain
facking do tango bank robber man in please love, then me and some of the boys can come down and egg him.
Wasn’t Neath the Venice of the West?
Hardly, but some great people have come from Neath, if only Katherine Jenkins, Neath is a great town, please don’t “knock it”!
I wouldn’t mind knocking Ms Jenkins….
Neath is a twll of the first order. It makes Soweto look sophisticated!
English, what English? Apparently we don’t exist according to the liberal lynch mob on QT last night so you must be talking to an illusion.
McSnot is after your mud!
Gordo did NOT steal our pensions, we did NOT have boom and bust, we should be grateful for all ZaNuLab have done for us, the ruined economy, worthless Pound …it goes on and on, no doubt the village idiots will vote for them!!
Right = bad Left = good
Did you say an audience of eight million?
Thank you kindly.
Unfortunately for griffen eight million people saw what a complete nincompoop he is.
Although I’m sorry that the beeb doctored QT so that it was biased against griffen because now he’s milking publicity on a ‘I’m a victim’ ticket.
Perhaps he could get some advice from his KKK mate.
All that publicity will have an effect. Although his performance apart form the Straw father jibe was poor he will get a bounce no doubt.
Oh Nick, you forget to thank the newspapers for splashing your physog on all the front pages. Nice one.
Wot no caption comp?
Guido, you were supposed to post the Caption Competition before you went down the fucking pub!
He’s fucked off to the pub early because it’s the right thing to do.
So wot
My thoughts exactly – at least have a photo of blinky handy to stick up, just so we can keep our razor sharp intellects honed.
But I will only smash another PC screen and this one is a delicious 24″ Apple screen (not the 27″ screen they have just announced that i cannot afford cos I lost my job back in 2007 after 22 yrs – of course I was cursed by the b’stard Brown who became PM 3 months before…).
Maybe Brown’s thugs have got Guido in the bunker and are extracting body parts as I write this;
To Downing Street men and don’t spare the horses!
well, its a good job we have all these celebrities around to help us through these difficult economic times eh?
think i’ll go an hang myself, whats the point anymore?
No don’t do it mate – Brown will have won if you top yourself – best to take him down too,make it worthwhile.
When he drives past give him a really evil stare and he may die from fright – mmm…perhaps not.
Go down the pub and have a drink or two.
And keep repeating – every day we get nearer to fraudster Brown lsoing with the worst margin ever seen anywhere in the world (apart from Iran,of course).
The darkest hour is usually just before the dawn. In this case the ‘dawn’ may well prove to be Bloody Revolution. It’s rapidly becoming the only remaining option for our very survival.
The thing I could not understand in last nights Newsnight was when the issue of the BNP homophobia came up. Why didn’t anyone ask what Nick Griffin has against homosexuals when he lived with the openly gay Martin Webster as a teenager?
A shock to Brown, but not the rest of us…
Incisive stuff from the DT
Recession: Why Britain has fared so badly
Britain’s £1.3 trillion of debts, its reliance on the banking sector, its small manufacturing sector, limited exports and Government policies have all conspired to leave the country in recession, while our European neighbours have recovered far quicker.
France, Germany and Japan have returned to positive growth, while China and Australia never even entered a recession.
The figures were a blow for Gordon Brown, who a year ago declared: “Because of the work we have done over these last 10 years we are better prepared to deal with what is a world financial problem that’s hitting every country.”
Peter Spencer, professor of economics at York University, said: “We are in very unfortunate position that Britain is one of the largest creditors in the world.
“While Germany and much of Europe specialise in exporting, we specialise in debt. So when the global economy picked up Germany, France and Japan saw their exports rise again. We’re last on the starting grid. We just don’t have the products and processes to export to the People’s Republic of China. It will take a long time to adjust.”
They can still spend £1 million a year on that lardarse who ballooned to 70st under the Dear Leaders policies. His evening meal included 4 large cod and a bucket of chips followed by 12 deep fried Mars bars.
What does a large cod cost these days?
The same as a bullet in to his head.
Save us £100k per yr.
exacatly facking do him in it’s about time we stopped encouraging stupidity by bankrolling it.
Im soooo British.
Is she a cleaner at the British Museum?
I’d give her a job !
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‘it looks increasingly like Britain will be the last G7 country out of recession’
That was always on the cards. As the premier financial centre it was going to be the higher you rise the harder you fall.
Broon is a dipstick.
AH (C)
We want a caption
We want a caption
We want a caption
We want a caption
We want a caption
We want a caption
or we crack some sculls
Come down to my bunker – we have your Guido spreadeagled on Mandelson at this very moment…..
Are they both arse-upwards ???
You can do some real weird stuff when you’re on that Mandelson. PCP’s like a sherbet dip compared to that shit.
Meanwhile, some dude is suing Bank of America for $1,784 billion trillion http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8318626.stm.
And we think we’ve got problems.
As it says in the article, there isn’t that much money in the world. So the guy has to be a nutter. Probably some attention-seeker.
We are best placed.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
Sorry, I need to pop out for a bit; the unicorns in my kitchen are telling me to buy them some magic beans.
Gordon! Gordon! You only have 46 days to save the world! Leave your spinning, don male attire, saddle a horse and go to see the king! It is you who must save our country from the English!
Yes, but when it gets to 4 minutes he will call in Madonna and Justin as you know he (Gordon) has not got a clue.
The BBC have been bigging up the economy all morning, only to find er that um…..
The one eyed jock mong has REALLY FUCKED US UP.
A must read for economic and music followers:
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14397.html
Interesting quote on there
“Those who can’t remember the past are condemned to repeat it “(Sentayana)
How true is that today as we find ourselves in the worst recession since WW2 and yet another labour government has brought this country to its knees. We should have learnt shouldn’t we after harold wilson and sunnyjim??
http://www.tpuc.org/onlinevideos
G7 Bollox!
Is that really you Guido on ConHome (Dave dumps on Associations)-if so have you got John Staffords phone number?
The boy is heading for a showdown at some point and even if he wins he will lose the war.
Why should anyone think that Dave or Boy George really understand what goes on in the real world?
First in – last out.
About par for the course.
My entry for this week’s Caption Competition:
“And then the goat popped out and the bishop dropped his crumpet.”
Speaking of goats , has anyone else noticed that Glynis Kinnock has been downgraded from her Minister of Europe post, that she held for just four months, and given Africa as a portfolio.
She should have been given it as a suppository nell. That would have kept the auld sow busy.
Was that the black bishop or the white one?
I’ll give you a clue, he always get’s a good bashing this time of night.
Alistair Darling surprised many analysts by forecasting that the UK Economy would grow by 1.25% in 2010 and 3.5% in 2011. However, we need to consider the following in that 1.25% growth on the annual GDP of £1.2 trillion equates to growth of just £15 billion and for 2011; 3.5% growth equates to just £42 billion. Therefore the government is borrowing a net £175 billion for 2009 and £175 billion for 2010 to generate £15 billion of growth, and then a further £140 billion for 2011 for £42 billion of growth. Thus total net borrowing of £490 billion to grow the economy by just £67 billion which shows the magnitude of the scorched earth economic policy now implemented that literally aims to hand the next Conservative government a bankrupted economy that will be lumbered with the consequences of continuing huge budget deficits throughout the life time of the next parliament and therefore sow the seeds for a strong Labour victory at the 2014-2015 General Election.
But it is a huge gamble with the fortunes of the British people in the interest of the survival of the Labour Party machine and the standard of living of the leading apparatchiks.
All in all, a thoroughly despicable piece of political chicanery and cynicism
We need a new post – too many on here. It is difficult finding new replies
Just heard a rumour Brown will resgign this weekend over the por economic number tdy and massive argument with ministers as yet unamed.
Might be an interesting w/e guy who called me has good track record.
It might be swift immediately after the guy signs the Lisbon Treaty, Mandy it would appears has droopped his support for Brown over poor performance this week and economic numbers getting worse.
A cut and run blame the Tory party for talking f=down the country is planned.
Brown resigning? Nope I can’t see it.
If he’s going to resign before the next election there will be a big build-up in publicity about his failing health so that he can ‘retire’ without damaging his over-sized ego.
Personally I think he’ll hang on to the bitter end.
“Just heard a rumour Brown will resign this weekend.”
Who was it told you, the fat bloke down the pub?
Don’t be so sceptical. He used to be in the SAS, you know.
gordon??? In the SAS??!!
That’s like saying that the tooth fairy was a member of Black Ops.!!!!
Lie-Bore’s “Green Shoots of recovery have just been stamped on !
Another thing that’s falling, ZerObama’s Rating.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#
Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years
The decline in Barack Obama’s popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.
He’s Gordon Brown with an Autocue.
One Big Asseed Mistake America
They shouldn’t have dissed Ron Paul. They’re all listening to him now.
if you go back to 1978/79 the labour hoons were exactly the same .in complete denial,the too banrupted the country,believed keynes was the savious,left the country in the biggest mess until brown and blair got their hands on it.
unbelievable.lets make sure they never do it again.
I just found a quote further up the blog that fits this point of view perfectly.
“Those who can’t remember the past are condemned to repeat it “(Sentayana)
Its a shame Griffen was so pathetic. I was hoping he’d finish splitting the labour vote.
There’s time yet – Ch 4 says the Telegraph reporting Poll increase tomorrow!
Be terrific if NuLiebor further suffers !
Any Questions 8PM tonight – could be interesting!
Why does cigarette ash go white on black trousers and why does cigarette ash go black on white trousers?
Just remember that the BoE and the central banking system, BIS, fractional reserve banking and so forth are the real cause of our economic calamity. The government defecit spending, although terrible, is not the real root of our problems.
667pooface says:
October 23, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Hopefully the Hoon will be shot in the heart.
Reply
755Ivor Schwartzporsche says:
October 23, 2009 at 7:33 pm
‘Shot in the heart and you’re to blame-you give Gov a bad name’
Now listen up. I have a background
in CULTURE. Cool huh?
She’s a wooly mammoth expert you know.
What’s her number? My mammoth needs expert attention.
You’d beast that? You’re a right wrong’un
I know.
We are Brooned all Brooned I tell yeh
Ye shu’d b’leeve ma’ – cos ar ha’ ended tha’ boom ‘n bust
an’ nuth’ns ma fult ye un’stan.
Griffin seemed OK. He stood up quite well to the fascist scum at the BBC and the mob of black crypto-Nazi racists shit in the audience.
Jack Straw was the real filth. The evil little bastard wants even more immigration. He also wants to hold inquests in secret so the police can kick oppressed whites to death with impunity, while they kiss the arses of all the criminal blacks, jews parkistarnies and homos.
Nu Liebore are the the filthy Nazi party.
Just as Moses lead his people through the red sea I shall lead the people of Britain to the land of milk and honey
Moses had two tablets and Ive just had mine
You need a dynamite suposiTory
I’m having that handle. SupposiTory. Hahahaha ha
Don`t miss Jacqui Smith on Any Questions at 8Pm Rdio 4.
That’s like saying to a 747 pilot “Mind that sky!”
Fayt Kah!
And Lo , I saved my people
Gordon, you’ve saved us from ourselves. We didn’t want all that undersold gold, and pension money anyways.
The beanpea will ultimately come to nothing.
Why?
A chap called Malcolm, Lord Pearson of Rannoth, who Danial Hannan likes, is running for the leadership of UKIP.
If he wins he is planning to widen UKIP’s horizons aand make them campaign not just on EU issues but also on issues such as immigration and wider government.
He was the one responsible for bringing Geert Wilders to Britain recently because Pearson believes in free speech.
He isn’t aganst immigrants in fact he is campaigning for the vast majority of peaceful muslims in Britain to get up off their bottoms and start opposing the minority who are as extreme and unpleasant as the beanpea party.
If he wins his leadership challenge UKIP will be a much more attractive, and balanced proposition for all those disenchanted labour voters than the beanpea which in truth is a ramshackle organisation that couldn’t even run a scrap yard.
nell, we know they won’t come to anything FFS. It’s how many votes they filch from Labour, stupid.
Point is Clint – the ramshackle beanpea might filch a few votes from labour, but if UKIP really get their act together , they have much better potential for stripping away the labour vote at a GE rather than just at the EU elections.
Re: stupid – it is an expression I always told my kids they should not use – I regarded it as equal to f and c words and not necessary if you wanted to make a reasoned argument.
nell, if you’ve got problems with fuck or сunt, you’ve come to the wrong site, stupid.
Hi Nell. Are we getting a little more comfortable with UKIP? I must say and you will know from my rantings that I would vote for Dave he he starts talking about the EU. I’m getting tired of waiting and I follow UKIP news everyday. I watch their videos, etc. I also believe that like Dave, they are probably keeping thier powder dry and I think they will surprise us with their candidate list? I know that Their PPC for St Albans definately is more than parliamentary material and has the requisite requiements not often heard of these days.
Yes Ivor I think they are an up and coming party.
My problem is that I’m opposed to the growing influence of the EU.
However I’m a realist and if I think they could expand their remit, as I think they will, under the leadership of Ld Pearson, to neutralise the beanpea party, then I would cheer for them on the sidelines, even as I was voting for the tories.
Nothing is ever simple and neither should it be. This is what makes life interesting!!!!
Yes Nell. Another is Count Tolstoy UKIP, standing in dave’s constituency-Whitney?
No doubt he is a descendent of the original Count Tolstoy who said that he found reading Shakespeare ‘tedious’.
That would win my vote as long as he extended that view to dickens as well!!!!
Ivor can you tell me which Labour party or Libdems your big names are targetting ?
or is it none ?
nell and tat are confirmed disillusioned former labour voters who still comment on the guardian under different nom de plumes.
good for them
beware of the lefties ???? What are you talking about ????
I’ve never made a secret of the fact that I will always vote tory.
Doesn’t stop me supporting UKIP or independents in labour and marginal constituencies. Tactical voting y’know!!!!
It’s called depth of political thought.
nell comments on the guardian under a nom de plume ????
NO! I Don’t .
In fact I have never commented on any blog other than this one.
And if I ever do in the future I will always do it under this same name of nell.
How many votes have you got Nell?
I don’t know, Resurgemus. I just saw that about Witney on the UKIP PPC list on their website. I don’t live in an area where Labour hang out so I’m not familiar with their current MP’s.
then why is Farage challenging Bercrow ( yes he’s a twat ) in Buckingham the Tories 3rd safest seat nationally ?
Since his beef is the EU why is he not pitched against Labour, probably in a Northern seat where people would die before voting Tory but have nowhere else to protest exept the B&P ?
Or just any Libdem ?
Maybe they are testing the water temperature with the bit Toe? If i’m right then they will give him the elbow. Its not a knee jerk reaction because they really want to kick him out on his arse probably. I’m all ears though if someone has any deafinitive reasons for this so I can get my head around a handle on the situation.
Griffin said that most (real) men find it unsettling to see two men kissing each other in the street. Griffin is absolutely correct but the PC brigade don’t like exposing the truth.
Not just men women too find men swapping spit disgusting. Most humans do. But we are not allowed to say so anymore
I think I am right in saying that the success of the movie ‘Brokeback mountain’ proved statistically that women did not find the concept of gay men unattractive.
Bollocks Men Kissing Men in Public is repulsive to both Male and female
I have never seen men kissing men in public. For the most part I suspect that is griffens over-active imagination. And since he lives on a remote farm in Wales I doubt it is something he has ever encountered.
Most people keep their intimate relationships for the privacy of their homes.
But I have to say, as a woman, I don’t find the concept of ‘gay’ , even though I am not gay, repulsive.
nell
think ben bradshaw and nick browne.
now you can’t sleep.
Resurgemus sweetie you have just curdled my horlicks!!
Well Ihave to say that cocksucking cowboys did nothing for me!
Having seen griffen on tv I don’t think you could call him, any more than you would call gordon a “real” man.
No – but judging by his shape he may have eaten several.
men kissing in the street, not often seen….? but….try your local pro football match after a goal…
michael.
But why does Dick Sniffin have this view when he lived with the openly gay nazi Martin Webster as a teenager. Don’t tell me he was trying to convert Webster to heterosexuality.
Jakie Smith on the QT on radio – her hubbie must be taking advantage of her absence at this very moment!
Lets go and knock on his door!
Lamp posts and piano wire…
I tried to listen, honest, but I don’t want to go to sleep this early in the evening.
Live NOW on BBC radio 4
Any questions (vastly superior to Question time)
Nadine Dorries v Jacqui Smith
What’s the collective noun for a pair of rancid, troughing scumbags?
Hoons
Brown and Cameron
The “missing links” will be fine
That lot have always been inward looking
Now that they own us they will take what little we have and then continue to look inwards backed up by an awsome millitary force
If America cant defeat a few chaps armed with sandals, a towel and an AK47
its a nono to confront our Chinese chums or indeed the Iranians
The good thing about China is that they are inward looking, they dont want to invade us, they dont want to sell us heroin, they just want us to fuck off and mind our beeswax.
I like the Chinese.
Iran would of been fun
We should glaze the Afgan/Pakistan border. Then attack Iran. ‘Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran’ to keep the industrial weapons manufactureresres in business. Afterwards we could charge them for war reparations plus vat.
Says it all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Thank you for that Resurgemus. That should have been a manifesto material issue.
A bit like the reverse of the referendum promise. I think all folk would treasure the british traditions if they too hadn’t been deliberately undermined. Simple things have become noticable such as queue jumping, inconsiderate driving and hijacking of the Union Flag by facists have had a huge detrimental effect on civility. That’s not intended to be racist but its true. Health and safety have undermined village fetes such as home made jam, cakes, whatever. Some may laugh but it leads to a malaise all round eventually.
Ivor
if this does the tour of northern England, Labour is dead. Labour have left an open goal for the B&P and they would be mad if they didn’t take advantage.
However I am more interested in how we got here. I remember Michael Howard being accused of racism when he raised this very issue. I expect Labour to fight their corner but I must say that the press and commentariat who gave them unquestioning support deserve to be investigated as we have seen this complicity ad nauseam for the last 12 years.
It’s also why, although I would like to see Cameron win, I wouldn’t like to be with a Blair like majority.
I’m torn between Conservative and UKIP. I want our traditions restored. I want national pride and I want a sovereign Government. This is going to go to the wiree I think right up until polling day unless dave is honest about his intentions soon. The longer he leaves us hanging in the wind unable to plan for business then the less credibility he is going to have as time goes on.
? That is the question
best all round result is for CMD to get a small but workable majority.
His MPs will keep him under pressure to deliver what he promised.
Can’t see UKIP winning seats.
A hung parliament is a lib\lab stitch up for 5 years and accelerated EU integration to make it nigh on impossible to unpick.
Since I sit in a constituency which has a Labour Europhile MP kept in place by UKIP votes, it leaves a bitter taste to watch the muppet in action. which is why I do not undestand UKIP’s approach and why they do not challenge the Europhile in seats instead of the Eurosceptics.
maybe thay will? I take your point and it must be a bitter feeling. at the end of the day one has to vote with a concience Imo.
Me too.
I hate, with a vengeance, the fact that my local MP is Talking Horse Spheroids. I am not convinced that CMD will give us a referendum on Lisbon, and would dearly love to vote UKIP for this sole reason. However, it is only the Tory in the constituency who has a chance of unseating Spheroids. I am torn.
If we had a strong BNP candidate, who would take votes predominantly from Labour, then I might risk UKIP, but then again, I so want to see a “Portillo moment” for Spheroids that I probably would vote Tory to be sure to be sure.
Going back to Stechford in 1977 or 78, the only reason the Tories won was because the vote for the NF candidate came predominantly from people who had voted nothing but Labour in the past and were so disenchanted by the mess the country was in and Woy bailing out to Europe that much of the Labour vote stayed at home or voted NF and the Tories managed to get as many of their votes out as they could.
Yes just seen that on sky,bloody disgrace,liebour wanted to keep it quiet so that it didn,t upset their core voters.
Shit about to hit the fan on this one methinks.
Does that work on a dyson one?
Hullo
Can ye lend me a tenner?
Well I could gordon – bit since you are printing money off your photocopier in drowning street (quantititaive easing) the tenner that you are asking for will soon be worth less than a 5p piece.
It already is, Nell. Btw keep your old copper coins because thay are worth more than face value. The new ones are magnetic so you can easily sort those out for the bin men christmas tips.
Shock Figures Show UK In Worst Ever Recession??? WTF?
The whole system is underpinned by quantitative easing…
The fact that the Services industry has taken a knock shows QE is not enough. And its about time that those who work and live in London realise that there is a nation attached to it called Britain. New national stats should be released excluding the square mile in London to give a rounder picture of what is going on.
Gerald Celente has talked about this subject in the last couple of days. It’s going to end in tears. Marketoracle
QE will likely be increased and labour are clearly in freefall and will do what they can to massage the economy into a false dawn. Its absolutely crazy how these people can gamble like this. They blame the Bankers for recklessness and they do the same. Once we eventually get a GE and the true numbers (Treasury Books Opened) get known it is going to shock everyone and with Interest Rates rising as they and god knows the numbers for PFI with unemployment still increasing this will be very painful for many and our children and our childrens children are the ones I worry about.
Brown’s a tosser your right…they are trying to give the illusion of a false dawn but there is no meet on the bones of any recovery until we do it without the QE underpinning it all.
Look it’s all very well talking about how the great ’socialist experiment’ has failed again but you’ve got to make these people as reviled if not worse than the BMP. You’ve got to hound and heckle them and ground them down so they never see power again.
If I was an OAP in this country I would want them to dissapear overnight never to be seen again alive or dead, lucky I am not yet.
I think that the ZaNuLabour are so insideous that people are afraid to get into trouble with the police for criticising them. what with all the computer monitoring, cctv, listening devices in dustbins, etc. pensioners are scared of Labour people.
This Pensioner isn’t fucking scared. Mind you, I saw all this coming and emigrated to Australia. The weather has been really nice this week here in Sydney.
Good for you and likely man more to follow. That is part of the problem see you have good stable government in Aussieland. Pity we do not have the same here.
Problem is Labour is in power in Australia – both federally and at state level.
They will fuck it up out there again too.
The pinhead Rudd took the country from a massive surplus (from more than a decade of sensible conservative government) to a large deficit in only one year…… imagine what five or six years of that sort of lunacy will do for the place.
Still as you say – the weather is nice there.
Nothing from Guido since 10.26 this morning should we be just a bit concerned for his welfare, I know he can look after himself but is this not just a tad odd?
When was the last time that there was not a a Friday caption contest ?
Awol, Awol, where is Gordon?, fascinating to hear about his biscuits, another announcement about tea due in a weeks time, tricky one, Fresh brew, Tetleys, Pg tips, do tell, yes you Gordon the knitted monkey, decisions decisions decisions.
To be honest I would love for Gordon NOT to make any decisions as he keeps making the WORNG ones. He needs to have a new Nokia with battery compartment laced with Semtex.
I never though of that!
Heard Mossad used to do that to despatch Arab terrorist chiefs, send agent to Country and switch phone with same model but with small explosive charge in, a few ball bearings and remotely activated fuse, leave Country and then make a phone call; Hello! is that Mr Ali Akbar speaking? Yes! Blam straight through the cranium, which model Nokia phone does Gordon use?
That comment from the labour advisor should be on all election material.
let in everyone and anyone.
I am as pissed off about polish plumbers undercutting guys who train apprentices for long term positions as I am about whole companies in lincolnshire changing staff to bring in cheap euro imports.
It is not a COLOUR issue, the pole could be an aryan look-alike, it is a cultural isue and people in britain should be able to get jobs without foreign chaps taking them short term without contributing to the country.
With sovereignty on immigration a major problem, labour cannot fix it. this is a great chance for UKIP, cameron had beeter grab those swinging voters or that 40% will drop to 30% pretty quickly as his core support is soft.
solution
1/ cameron says briitain needs to opt out of an open door eu policy as economy cannot recover whilst it continues, and those here need to be given jobs. needs to be agreed by the eu or we change our status.
2/ All EU workers not employed after 12 months in britain lose their right for services and need to return to their own country. (that frees up council houses across the country.0
3/ All non EU immigrants on visa and not citizens not employed after 12 months need to go through compulsory english training and ediucation courses or they have to leave the UK within a further 6 months.
do that and cameron gets 50%, not 30%, but has he got the balls?
What was your the winner in the Friday caption competition?
Nick Griffen = Vot a vanker.
thats most unfair – he prefers nice skinheads to a hand job.
When the Brown clown said “no more boom and bust” he actually meant no more boom – just bust.
Actually he was just plain lying. McTwat doesn’t do the truth because there’s nobody there in the depths of the No 10 bunker to give it to him.
Seen this?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Nothing to do with the EU at all…………….
who wanted Britain neutralised, and used immigration as the way to achieve that.
Now they have a massive insurrection on their hands, and an anti-Lisbon Treaty Conservative Party close to winning power.
As for the recession, the experts all forecast growth and were surprised.
Why? Brown has every other statistic massaged. The decline was miniscule and could be revised, and might be so nearer an election, just possibly….
People who use immigration as a political tool are about a Fascist as they come. I am sure the small matter of tampering with economic statistics would provide them with no problem. And I am afraid to say that election or referendum rigging is easily within their reach.
Launching the BNP six months before an election is quite obviously another tactic. They want to build an atmosphere of threat and fear. Fortunately Brits don’t react much to stupidity, either the BNP or the government.
But the rigging of elections through postal vote fraud and ballot box tampering is bloody serious.
and introduced draconian laws to clamp down on talking about it
Labour encouraged mass immigration partly as a cynical poitical move to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”.
Makes you wonder what othey policies have been cynically followed. Bankr*pting Britain? Making us subservient to the EU in clear disregard to the wishes of the majority?
What a shower of utter shit Labour has become. Political filth of the lowest kind. Lying, dissembing, cheating traitors.
That was not the real UK Fred
:-)
Just when u thought the liberals had beaten the BNP…http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222613/Labour-let-migrants-engineer-multicultural-UK.html
What are chances of the Telegraph article being reproduced on B&P campaign leaflets and delivered to homes in Labour areas.
Here’s an interesting story – forest with the darkest skies in UK (which I’m not buying, btw, head 20/30m NW from the middle of the great glen and there is *nothing* anywhere… Yes, I like the stars)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article6887233.ece
But look at this paragraph – tossed in without a second thought: ” A couple of years ago, sensors that count vehicles registered a surprisingly high volume of traffic heading into the forest park in the darkest hours of night. The local constabulary, alerted to possible foul play, descended on a car park by Clatteringshaws Loch. They found not drug dealers or sheep rustlers but a group of guys in cagoules and clutching Thermos flasks, their telescopes trained on the Crab Nebula. ”
That’s right folks, routine electronic surveillance of traffic, using those sensors we’ve been told for years are purely for research purposes. The whole road network is being prepared for routine, 100%, 24/7 surveillance. ANPR, CCTV, FRS – the works. it’s all here, it all works.
And the only question that remains is, why? What is it that they are worried about?
Well very soon there won’t be any cars on the road as there won’t be any jobs to drive to.
What I would like to do with Brown and my baseball bat is unprintable – it would take about a minute to do.
No mention of the Telegraph immigration story on Pravda…the word has obviously gone out from the bunker to “downplay” it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece
gordon is going to be so disappointed. Obama is not going to Copenhagan because he doesn’t believe anything worthwhile is going to come out of it.
Has Fawkes been for a walk in the woods?
No Fridaycaption comp.
Not a word for 24 hours….
It was only a matter of time before they came for him…
He appears to have had a speaking engagement at 09:00. See Tory Bear. It’s definite pink gin territory but I dare say there’ll be a despatch afore long…
Yeah but how can we be sure he turned up?
Next we’ll see of him will be in 6 years, shackled up in an orange jumpsuit in Guantanamo
thanks Sukispook. Wow. I knew this background but ‘never heard it said before on video. Thank you.
Now the Gordo. How are you doing with your 5 tests these days?
UK economy overtaken by Italy!!!!!
Britain’s economy has been overtaken by Italy for the first time in a decade and a half, after official figures showed that the UK is now in the longest recession in recorded history.
Shock growth figures de-rail fight-back plans
Oh dear. That was not in the plan. News that Britain is still in recession comes after weeks of nods, winks and downright flashing neon signs from Number 10 and the Treasury that new figures released on Friday would show a return to growth.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/recession/6418344/UK-economy-overtaken-by-Italy.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6416585/Shock-growth-figures-de-rail-fight-back-plans.html
I was only joking yesterday I bet there would be a terror story to bury all this bad government news. Unbelievable as suddenly this morning, as if by magic the compulsory terror story so beloved of this governments appears to knock all other news of the front pages………. and no this time i am not joking.
Sky Breaking News
Trio held in UK terrorism swoop Three men have been arrested and held under the Terrorism Act following a raid at a house in Wales.
It seems that the BBC and those on “the left” have scored a monumental “home goal” with their “Show trial” of Griffin on Question Time and the main loser is Labour and principally Jack Straw who came out of the programme as someone being decidedly shifty on the question of whether Labour’s policies on Immigration have contributed to the rise of the BeeEnnPee – of course they have.The areas where that party is in the ascendant are traditional LABOUR working class areas because the traditional Labour C2DE dempgraphic feels that nobody is listening to their fears on the number of immigrants coming into the country and the fact that they are the ones initially affected the most. All mainstream parties have a problem with the rise of the far right but Labour has the greatest problems of all and that is a direct result of their failure to address immigration over the previous 12 years. Nobody has actually ever asked the British electorate whether or not they wanted the “social enginneering” that Labour has forced on to them.They may or they may not but no mainstream politician has ever had the political courage to ask the question and certainly Labour never has until it has been forced on to it by Griffin & Co.Griffin may be a total idiot which is probably just as well because if he had been anything like competent the effect of his appearance would have been even more dramatic for the fortunes of the BeeEnnPee and all the mainstream parties should thank themselves that he was shown to be such a fool but they need to raise their game considerably because in the future they may not be so lucky should a more charismatic and competent leader of the BeeEnnPee emerge
Labour ‘Encouraged Mass Immigration To UK’
SKY NEWS
Holy shit!! Labour accused off political gerrymandering by their own side
Yeah, this is the link.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Ex-Government-Adviser-Andrew-Neather-Says-Mass-Immigration-To-UK-Was-Deliberate/Article/200910415414170?lpos=Politics_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15414170_Ex-Government_Adviser_Andrew_Neather_Says_Mass_Immigration_To_UK_Was_Deliberate_
Note, however, to the left of the last paragraph of the article, a picture of Gordon Brown with the caption,” Labour Eats Into Tory Poll Lead.” despite 4 polls out over the last few days showing this just isn’t so.
Wankers.
what the fuck
Gordon Brown is far more intelligent than even he realises himself
“When you wake up in the morning and find your rulers’ are evil, it is time to put them to sleep’ – Hitler
Huge increases in immigration over the past decade were a deliberate attempt to engineer a more multicultural Britain, a former Government adviser said yesterday.
Andrew Neather, a speechwriter who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, said Labour’s relaxation of controls was a plan to ‘open up the UK to mass migration’.
As well as bringing in hundreds of thousands to plug labour market gaps, there was also a ‘driving political purpose’ behind immigration policy, he claimed.
Official policy: Huge increases in immigration over the past decade were ‘a deliberate attempt to engineer a more multicultural Britain’
Ministers hoped to change the country radically and ‘rub the Right’s nose in diversity’. But Mr Neather said senior Labour figures were reluctant to discuss the policy, fearing it would alienate its ‘core working-class vote’.
Mr Neather revealed the ‘major shift’ in immigration policy came after the publication of a policy paper from the Performance and Innovation Unit, a Downing Street think tank based in the Cabinet Office. The published version promoted the labour-market case for immigration but Mr Neather said unpublished versions contained additional reasons.
‘Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural’.
chutney 1000th
New Labour’s policies are totally busted. They have spent the last three Parliaments’ money and the next three as too. They will remain out of power for more than a generation.
Very true, unless the Tories screw up! That would be a disaster for this country.
What recession, I’ve got $500 Trillion and soon most of you wont be around.
Guido stop distracting them with tittle tattle, that ’special’ Vaccine they have promised you and your family, won’t work.
http://www.theflucase.com
When are you lot going to wake up to the fact that this is Planned Armageddon to destroy the Free west.
Fall of the Rebublic
[...] as predicted by consensus economists. Except that the economy did not oblige. On Friday the ONS reported numbers that shocked Gordon Brown, who has long clinged to the belief that a rising economy will save him. His curse [...]
Yes you are probably right, the British sense of fair play may rule. People who may have seen the programme as a “Get Griffin” campaign which may backfire in the end and further the BNP cause.
whois the facist
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article597106.ece#
said the heroin addict given heroin to post on behalf of the british nazi party.
………. because you regret to say …………. WHAT ?
It was right that the BBC can broadcast altenative debate. In other countries we bomb them for airing unpalatable news.
Said the cock sucker given men to post on behalf of the gayboys
shaddup fuck face.
The difference is Blair knew when to get out before everything unravelled into the open and had the perfect fall guy lined up with Brown, he handed him the poisoned chalice and Gordon supped greedily, truly Gordon is a Moron (not to mention unelected, delusional, paranoid and an economic illiterate, a would be player on the World stage that still can’t see he is an embarrassment to the people of the U.K. and a laughing stock to the rest of the World, the World Gordon that you keep going on about, a sense of perspective needed, try sorting out the postal strike at Mount Pleasant London U.K. sorting office first and take it from there Flashman.
They should never have closed down the mental hospitals either
‘Care’ in the community brought to you by Gordon and Harriet and sponsored by the BBC. Pudsey got an eyepatch, please continue giving generously to deprived M.P,s Sirs and Lords, the poor bankers and the utility companies. Spare a penny gov?, for me.
There are plenty of very suitable patients in the HoC. Perhaps that’s why they closed them.
They could always get Alan to deliver some post. He must be good for something.
60,000,000 people in this country bnp got a1,000,000 votes so one in sixty is the ratio
They could always get Alan to deliver some post. He must be good for something.
Nope, he’s not even good for that.
He stuck his cock through mah letterbox
It cost £6000 to clean the carpet but I was most satisfied
“They could always get Alan to deliver some post. He must be good for something.
Nope, he’s not even good for that.”
That goes for the labour party as a whole doesn’t it? ‘Not fit for purpose’ comes to mind!!!
In the final months of this dying Labour government a former advisor to Blair and Blunkett makes a shocking admission about Labour’s social engineering:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
This revelation will lose Labour hundreds of thousands of WWC votes to the b n p. More than enough to allow Tories and Lib Dems to take previously safe Labour seats.
Goodbye Phil Woolas, bye bye Ed Balls etc etc
From that Telegraph article:
“The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”, according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He said Labour’s relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to “open up the UK to mass migration” but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its “core working class vote”.
what a c*nt. what c*nts they all are in fact.
C*NTS!!
fuckin swine
Shocking indeed, but the real reason is that these immigrants were all expected to be Labour voters, and therefore the force that would keep them in power for evermore.
Piano wire is too good for them.
Does he like hillwalking?
Hope not!
Oh Dear . beanpea is debating at it’s sink school level.
I do hope UKIP is going to get it’s act together with proper wide-ranging policies ready for the next GE.
Because if they do they will wipe the beanpea off the board.
Who was it said genocide? It’s not quite genocide more treason and insubordination which is treason
Hello again Nell. I’ve got a new name. Anyway, UKIP have a website with their policies on there. ukip.org. Ivor
This should lose Labour plenty more votes especially in those Midland and Northern marginals:
“The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”, according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He said Labour’s relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to “open up the UK to mass migration” but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its “core working class vote”.
I never have but it may be worth having a read of the labour blog to see what’s happening?
Now there’s a surprise. So, part of this decision was motivated by political spite – to “rub the right’s noses in diversity”.
How wonderful that the labour marxists feel free to play at social engineering…not because of a public mandate to do so….but out of petty spite.
NuLabour, NuNasties.
Very few immigrants would be natural friends of Cameron, with welfare or minimum wage conditions being the norm.
3 years down the line they would switch to the Cons only if real economic “progress” had been achieved, which would be doubtful if more than one child had been born. It is a creepy thing to clone an underclass for one’s own purposes. One could almost liken it to Slavery.
Nothing on labourlist about that telegraph story. there’s a surprise.
But Damian Tompson Telegraph has a YouGov poll which says more than half of respondants support some of what Griffin had to say on immigration. Tonight.
I wouldn’t put that past many of them either.
This is a reply to anonymous at 10:36pm
Remember Bliar – when elected – saying he intended to “destroy the forces of conservatism for ever” well this was his plan….import millions of potential new labour voters. He had not forgiven the working classes for deserting labour and voting for maggie….now they have been well and truly stuffed.
More spite from the NuLabour, NuNasty party.
I used to think that labour let so much immigration happen so that they could bomb the shit out of other countries for oil pipelines but at the same time to appear humane. I got that wrong.
And?
I hope that HMQ has a word then?
I prefer to forget the bugger, same with Mrs. T.
Her pampered liddle diddums says we should leave the bankers alone:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8323592.stm
Wise words indeed, from one who knows.
How could we ever doubt him?
Madame la guilotine is going to very very busy isn’t she?
Ain’t he the one married to that Fergie bird?
Stupid member of the thickest,stupidest,ignorant,brainless,thieving and worthless family ever to land from Germany in a thousand years.
Ethnocide
I hope it’s a blunt one
Uddin
Rennard
Scotland (that’s the Baroness AND the whole population north of the border)
I’m now taking offers on hairpieces.
Wouldn’t “Supposeatory” be better? As a floating voter (ugh. always reminds me of unflushed toilets) you can always tell Cameron & Co to shove it up their arses, which they do anyway.
Sharper means quick means more per hour.
Start with the quaffing bankers, move on to the cake eating toffs.
Genius, I’m sure this is going to be the next really big youtube hit.
60,000,000 includes babies, children and teenagers who don’t vote you moron.