October 22nd, 2009

Home Office Pays Staff to Play Mixed Tug of War
Instead of Catching Illegal Immigrants

ukbaYesterday Ministers admitted to having lost track of around 40,000 migrants with no right to be in Britain including suspected terrorists and criminals.  The Home Office is under pressure to track them down and Lin Homer, CEO of the UK Border Agency (UKBA) told the Home Affairs Select Committee yesterday that “Where further action is required it will be taken and any cases which may be considered as harmful to the public will be prioritised.” Good news, hopefully arrests of the most dangerous cases will follow.  Ashley Robinson is  the civil servant responsible for coordinating the national arrest team.  Here is what he was prioritising yesterday:

From: Robinson Ashley
Sent: 21 October 2009 12:57
Subject: Home Office L&SE: Winter Games

FAO Home Office Staff in London & South East (other CSSC members can attend as guests on invitation)

I will be organising Mixed Touch Rugby and Mixed Tug of War at the Home Office L&SE Winter Games on Thursday 26th November 2009: 11-4 @ Metropolitan Police Sports Ground, Imber Court Ember Lane, East Molesey, Surrey, KT8 0BT

SPECIAL LEAVE with PAY for Home Office staff working inside London & South East – subject to line-management authorisation can be applied for.  Are you keen to enter a team/event?

Kind Regards

Ashley C Robinson
Club Captain: CSSC Barbarians Rugby
C/o National Arrest Team Coordinator | Immigration Group | United Kingdom Border Agency

Note the special leave with pay to scrum down with the opposite sex at the taxpayers’ expense.  Guido called Ashley to ask him why exactly (apart from the obvious fun to be had) he thought this was a good idea:

Guido : Why do you think the taxpayers should pay for your rugby and tug-of-war jolly during business hours?
Ashley : I don’t know what you are talking about.
GF : [Guido reads him back email]
Ashley : Someone has forwarded you my email have they?
GF : Yes
Ashley : [Thinking fast] It is in line with best practice in the private sector, a healthy workforce has less time off and is happier blah, blah, blah…
GF : But why do it on a work day?
Ashley : Think you better speak to the press office…

John Reid did say the Home Office was “unfit for purpose”Not sure that paying civil servants to have fun and games when they should be working was the solution he had in mind…


678 Comments

  1. 1
    gone fuckin mental says:

    Fuckin hell

    • 17
      Fred Goodwin's Duck Palace says:

      Good Catch.

      More idiots spooging taxpayers money up against the wall.
      Pity the likes of Griffin will try to use it as a populist soundbite tonight but fuck him

      Imagine if all the civil servants and all the little minions in the hopeless Government Departments suddenly felt the chill wind of a PorkBusters Campaign ?

      Imagine if all their expenses were suddenly put under the microscope ?

      Imagine all the little perks and jolly’s exposed to a public already enraged by taxpayer money being wasted by feckless morons ?

      What you have here is an ongoing series with potential not just a one off story
      Kudos Mr Fawkes

      • 39
        Financial misconduct = Conservatives says:

        The Inquisition

      • 45

        I suggest that everyone read the Migrationwatch press release here:

        http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/

        And… take deep breath, because its a lot worse than you think concerning our great and wonderful “UK Border Agency (UKBA)” who’s motto is ‘put your head in the sand and sing la la la if asked anything difficult’

        • 108
          IRB says:

          Why would anyone need to read anything those turds put out?

        • 197
          Greychatter says:

          And this government (small ‘g’) are scratching their heads as to why the BNP are gaining ground??

          Only Gordon Brown and his corrupt government are unable to see what their policies are doing – Sharia Law for our Grand children?? Christianity side-lined.
          Manufacturing and industry generally through the floor. Equality for all?

          Don’t make me laugh.

          • Nazi wants to hang British Army Generals shocker says:

            Sharia Law is just around the bend!!!!
            Already they are turning our Bananas into hummus and replacing the Radio 4 pips with the call to Mecca.
            Did you know they are replacing the Queen with a Saudi Prince next year ? Did you know all Premier League footballers will have to play in a bhurka in 2 years ? How can you all stand by and do nothing when the Archbishop of Canterbury is forced to recite the Koran on his knees till he replaces Christmas with Ramadan!!

            It’s later than you think!

          • Sharia law may be just round the bend, but don’t worry, the eu’s in charge. That means it’ll be a bend of the wrong curvature and therefore illegal.

        • 343
          Boycott the Licence Fee says:

          So you’re saying that the recent TV documentary series about them looking all tough and hard when dealing with illegals was just a sham to reassure the country that something’s being done about us being swamped by foreign criminals whereas in fact they’re not taking the problem seriously at all?
          Who’d have thought the mainstream media would resort to such subterfuge!

        • 607
          Dave Crudmon says:

          Why read anything they write just a Tory and UKIP front same as Taxpayer’s Alliance . ALL CON ORGANISATIONS

      • 296
        Big Bazongas says:

        I have a good friend, whose company I really value and enjoy, who went from being a journalist to working in the civil service. Despite several requests, he’s never told me exactly what he does, explaining his duties like this: “I piss your money up the wall – that’s what I do.” At least he’s honest.

    • 29
      U can't come in without a ticket says:

      Fucking Border angency?

      We Haven`t got a fucking border.

      We are an Island for fucks sake.

      Why is it so fucking difficult to check who comes onto the Island?

      As for mixed groping games on full pay are they fucking Mad? I am.

      • 96

        I’m guessing that the UKBA is there to HELP likely labour voters enter the UK.

        Remember, Socialist infiltrated organisations do the opposite of what they are named.

        • 151
          Dick the Prick says:

          The Home Secs hubby played Tug of Love on our cash so what’s the problem?

        • 156
          tat says:

          hey, the part timer is back, how you doing antisocialcitizen?
          doing part time hours I see. you lazy troll.

        • 247
          Sarah Palin One says:

          Socialist not only inflitrate organisations poison your pets and eat your babies they are behind the dastardly New World Order the piss stinking drunk on the corner is always yelling about.

          Did you know Rothsbanker is a socialist along with Bush and Bliar ?
          The Bildeburgers, Trilateral Commision, Skull and Bones, Scouts, Ickes Lizard People. All socialists. It’s true because God told me.

          Remember kids, SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!!

          Socialists also hypnotised the Bankers by using the socialist colour Red in subliminal socialist messages telling them to take Billions in socialist Bonuses and destroy the economy.

          Evil cunning socialists!

          • RunningDog says:

            You write: Socialists also hypnotised the Bankers by using the socialist colour Red in subliminal socialist messages telling them to take Billions in socialist Bonuses and destroy the economy.

            Actually, this is true. Note the new BBC colour scheme… RED

        • 258
          Sarah Palin One says:

          Socialist not only inflitrate organisations poison your pets and eat your babies they are behind the dastardly New World Order the piss stinking alky on the corner is always yelling about.

          Did you know Rothsbanker is a socialist along with Bush and Bliar ?
          The Baldyburgers, Triliteral Commision, Skull and Bones, Scouts, Lizard People. All socialists. It’s true because God told me.

          Remember kids, SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!! SOCIALISTS!!

          Socialists also hypnotised the Bankers by using the socialist colour Red in subliminal socialist messages telling them to take Billions in socialist Bonuses and destroy the economy.

          Evil cunning socialists!

      • 104
        ExEng says:

        They all prefer dressing in black and rushing around in rubber dinghies to defend our shores while letting anyone in on a trains, planes and trucks.

        It is more exciting. The bit they always miss is they need the help of the public for the coasts. It is the locals that see the odd going on, but fear contacting them as they are obviously out of control. They do stop checks, for no reason, on any body they like as long as they are in a boat. But they seem to need a reason at an airport. Most boat captures are done from intelligence like the drug smuggler off Ireland that was caught after a marina manager in the US got suspicious.

        When will they learn that it is the public that is their real eyes and ears, and they should stop alienating them.

        But the places were the public can not watch like airports etc. is down to them entirely. But then that is just boring, they would rather be dressed as SAS and have a mission!

      • 139
        Lin Homer says:

        I can see we’ll have to get Wallace and Gromit on the case immediately

      • 153
        Anonymous says:

        not been abroad recently then? … we now have major tourist attraction at all airports called the ‘UK Border’
        It has many people working for it who often meet you off the plane in their UK Border themed uniforms and then you get to queue up to see it.

        It’s such a major attraction they even ask for your passport so you can see the wonderous ‘UK Border’.

        It’s just like a theme park – There are rides and everything (although bags keep appearing on them – mine never show up there though)

      • 240

        I thought there was a tunnel under the Channel

      • 290
        Gavfaemonty says:

        The border with the Irish Republic?

    • 38
      Best practice my arse says:

      Since when was contact sport on full pay with the opposite sex best practice in the private sector? Sack the CHUMP

      • 67
        Bottle-fed Triplet says:

        Best practice in the private sector is to pay for this sort of thing out of the company’s INCOME and PROFITS!!!

        The UKBA do not generate any profit whatsoever, this man is deliberately taking my tax away from what he should be spending it on. Is this fraud?

      • 73
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        There’s plenty of private sector buisnesses that ask staff to contribute to the christmas party (if there is one) no problem.

      • 121
        Tracey says:

        Dunno about the private sector, but it was all the rage in the ODPM a few years back.

    • 82
      Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

      When you run important offices such as Home Secretary with the likes of Mrs Smith and Alan Johnson, what do you expect?? I mean a more unprofessional thick pair of self important imbeciles (self confessed in Smiths case) I have never before envisaged in high office.
      Of course when the leader is the HOON, what more can we expect??

      Ps just a word on Peter Hain, who recently has been trying to get some cheap publicity for himself on the back of his old anti-apartheid self.
      Yes Mr Hain, you are indeed a paragon of virtue, one we can all look up to as arole model-but would would you mean awfully staying away from my bank??

      • 177
        barefootcontessa says:

        Entirely agree, particularly re Mr. whited sepulchre going for the PM can’t get his jaw un;ocked orange faced Hain.

    • 95
      Ship 'em out says:

      We also have a tonne of Scots invaded our Parliament.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwVbtH952WM

      The New Labour filth that have let in millions of people should be done for the economic sabotage of the UK. Their bullshit of needing foreign workers to pay for the pensioners of today – f’cking lefty madness to justify their socialist experiment, which is falling apart.

      • 126

        a tonne of Scots

        What’s that in tons?

      • 321
        Anonymous says:

        While the bonus culture exist it will syphon off all the profits before the tax man or shareholders see them. The bank dividends paid for the pensions.

        So someone else has to be blamed. So make out that the people are the problem for growing old, and that the solution is immigration. Good distraction while the troughers loot the bank.

        However, we are told daily that it is our obesity, smoking and alcohol consumption that is shortening our lives! How can we be getting older if our lives are being shortened!

        I never quite understood those arguments.

      • 544
        Che Avacado says:

        Strange that it seems to be capitalists who employ most of these immigrants (not counting civil service cleaners and such like), and that they’ve been used to keep down the wages of the working class.

    • 259
      Allah says:

      Vote B&P!

      • 295
        Mo says:

        Vote B & Q!

      • 312
        rick says:

        Careful Allah (peace be upon him), or tat will call you racist/fascist/bigoted thug…..and not forgetting the all time favorite “Toy-Town-Nazi”

        • 330

          Yep, the biggest problem with the B&P is that they are even more SOCIALIST than this despicable government.

          It would be hard to fuck up the economy more than Gordon does, but they actually will manage this.

          • Nanzi Shitizen Mong says:

            they are holocaust denying Nazis
            a somewhat biger problem than even one obsessive nutter’s need to label everything and everyone socialists

          • Great Granddad says:

            I quite fancy a game of mixed tug of war. How come no one’s invited me?

          • Sungei Patani says:

            If you look at the economic policy of the BNP it is undeniably Old Labour.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Dull Aunty Zit,
            Socialists have always been the first to fight fascists.

            When capital is under stress, like now, fascists are exploited by capital to try to distract and divide workers and the unemployed.

            Racism is wrong, so is Aunty Zit.

          • Fascists and socialists fight over one thing and one thing only…

            Who to steal from and harrass.

            Form of Socialism – Victim Group
            International Socialism – Owners.
            National Socialism – Jews, Gypsies.
            TransNational Socialism – YOU!

          • Anonymous says:

            “Socialists have always been the first to fight fascists. ”

            I see Jonty’s quoting from his GCSE Politics books again rather than facing the reality of there being nothing but a fag paper’s difference between the two.

            When you’re older, you might actually understand Jonty, until then, be quiet and let the grown ups talk.

          • Anonymous says:

            Master Baiter – aged under 10 when Nulab came to power. A shining example of how well their indoctrination program is working.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Socialism is not equivalent to fascism.

          • Dick the Prick says:

            You’re quite right MB. Fascism has only killed about 10 million whereas socialism is well into 100 million+. Not really in the same league at all.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            Fascism usually follows on from the inevitable collapse of socialist systems. In terms of policy they are very similar.

            The reason they usually fight is simply down to turf wars – they are competing for the same dull minds.

          • Dave Crudmon says:

            O for goodness sake even I Dave Crudmon see you are talking rubbish socialism is nothing like fascism. Do look up your facts . We Cons are closer to the fascists than Gordo’s lot. If you are going to blog on my behalf – do sound intelligent.

    • 479
      Minekiller says:

      This is an example of why the country is up shit creek sans paddle.

      • 581
        Loftus Road says:

        I’ve just driven by BBC TV centre – there’s a lot of placard waving socialist workers out and lots of police.

        Funny how neither are ever around W12 usually.

  2. 2
    Down with Brown! says:

    This is what happens when you let the likes of Piggie Jacqui Smith and Postie Johnson run a department.

    • 10
      Hamish Macbeth says:

      Too true….

      Socialists have no reason to get rid of illegal immigrants. It would be like turkeys voting for Christmas.
      Think of all those jobs in asylum support, social services, housing, guardian reading pink and fluffy race coordinators.

      A whole industry has been founded on the illegal immigrants – not just kebab shops and takeaways.

      • 15
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        Traffic wardens, language translators, home domestics, baggage handlers, …..

      • 44
        Turkish Doctor Who says:

        You come to my Kebab shop in Penge Eh? The Burger Trench Eh? Hot saveloys served in the old fashioned way eh?

    • 50
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Brown to Cameron: Wrong on the Recession, Wrong on the Recovery mantra = Brown to Johnson: Keep it up Postie your doing everything Right! I only wish the tug of war rope was replaced with Gordons left foot on one side and the other side his right foot. Now that would be money well spent.

  3. 3

    ‘In line with best practice in the workplace’

    Because it is the right thing to do

    • 23
      Reg511 says:

      Whilst I fully see the benefits from such activities, my experience has been such activity during paid time is only as a reward for achievement, it is far from the early stages of taking a team through a turnaround situation.

      It does, however, fully demonstrate how little these public sector department managers understand about reality and public opinion.

      This national shame ceased to be funny some time ago

    • 24
      Jon says:

      I would say that it more like common practise rather than best practise.

      It has been shown that such jolly outings do help team building a bit, but only if there are many other aspects of the company in question are changed as well to facilitate the team bonding. Most of the time, and I suspect it is true in this case, jollys are used as attempts to boost morale and nothing more. However if the working environment is poor (and this must be so as they don’t seem to be doing their proper job of finding illegal immigrants) then such moral boosting attempts are like pissing in the wind and therefore a waste of time and money – our money.

      • 75
        David Cameron says:

        Do nothing!

      • 79
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        Correct which is why in a happy environment staff don’t mind paying towards company days out like horse racing or whatever. If it wasn’t a happy company no staff would go.

      • 84
        Herr V. says:

        One of my pals works in this sector — corporate team-building events — and says it’s all a complete load of bollocks. Quite often the frustrations and weariness induced by some perfectly pointless project (like building a raft to cross a river, when 50 yards downstream there’s a bridge) bring out simmering, underlying tensions in the “team” and can result in almighty rows, truth-telling, and subsequent sackings.

        Best practice is to get on with the job the shareholders or taxpayers are funding.

        Twats.

        • 109
          Ray Mears says:

          all true, but how would c unts like me make a fat living otherwise?

        • 127
          Sir William Waad says:

          If you are a good manager you can build a team without having to resort to this kind of external help.

          • Mr Ned says:

            external help? I have heard these wastes of time an money called some things, but help?

            But you are correct. True leadership inspires and bonds people to the mission. Ineffectual and weak people who lack leadership skills, fracture teams, allow us and them to creep in and poison relationships leading to a lack of trust and fractious in-fighting and a lack of purpose and a failure to perform. That is when weak leaders resort to this kind of “team-building” nonsense to try to artificially infuse something that they personally are incapable of.

            As a tax-payer I object to MY money being wasted in such a way. These people have a mission to perform, a goal to achieve and anyone who gets in the way of that mission should be sacked.

            Personally, I think that the borders agency should recruit from the ranks of the B&P. Talk about a motivated workforce. The B&P enforcing border controls? they would probably do it for free!

          • The purpose of the UKBA is to filter out undesirables, not keep everyone out…

          • tat says:

            you managed to slip through the net you fucker.

          • Mr Ned says:

            I have stood up for many foreign cultures whom I have welcomed and defended here in the country that I was born in and which uniquely is the country of my cultural heritage.

            I have argued in favour of a controlled and balanced, tolerant multiculturalism in this country for decades. But we have NOT had that have we. As I have been arguing in favour of foreign cultures being made welcome here, WHO, in my own country, is going to stand up for MY culture?

            The B&P people I have spoken to do not want to keep everyone out, just the illegals, the shirkers and the terrorists. If you want to come here to work, contribute to society and pay taxes, you are welcome. The problem is successive governments have allowed far too many of the illegals, shirkers and terrorist sympathisers in to the extent that any rational policy on immigration now amounts to a closed door, until we can sort out, and kick out, those that are here illegally or here to cause injury or harm.

            The B&P members with whom I have spoken are NOT against immigration per se, in fact they are not racist at all, they want to see a multiculturalism in this country, but one that actually INCLUDES and PROTECTS the indigenous white Brit and supports integration, instead of segregation and ghetto-isation.

            None of the anti-British extremist parties like Labour or the liberals are proposing that are they? They have all allowed the ghetto-isation of vast parts of our towns and cities to the point where people born and bred in some towns now find them unrecognisable.

            Labour are violent anti-British extremist war criminals. Their last leader lied repeatedly to start a war that has cost the lives of over a million dark skinned innocents. They have covered up for American torture of innocent people and yet they have the gall to label the B&P as extreme?

            I fundamentally oppose the B&P’s socialist tendencies, but their policies on immigration are spot on!

            As for merely filtering out undesirable, well, the current lot are failing miserably at that aren’t they. The B&P could not do any worse.

          • Tat, It’s a pity they let you “migrate” out of the nut-house and let you onto the net.

          • Tony Bliar says:

            yeah, look at our Gordon, he didn’t get where he is now without hard work, or a few stabbings …..

    • 136

      In line with the best business practice in firms making money, maybe.

      When your company’s losing 20 million an hour you generally find the Jollies Budget gets slashed.

      • 160
        Dick the Prick says:

        WTF happens if they get an injury??

        • 179

          Ten weeks off at your expense and special pcare at the Civil Service’s own clinic.

        • 184

          Simple. 5 months off sick, and a decent conditional fee agreement

        • 190
          Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

          Good point. Guido, Alert the Elf n safety. Get the gig cancelled in case someone ends up like Gordon with a head injury

          • Susie says:

            That crossed my mind too… our village used to have a great bonfire night party and lots of fetes — not any more due to elf’n safety insurance regs.

          • UK Fred says:

            Why can’t we have a big bonfire like Susie says and burn the lot of the hoons (be more painful for them than shooting), together with the non-job employees in the civil Service who have nothing better to do with their time than organise mixed touch rugby at our/my expense.

          • EC1 PhD says:

            I’m going down with my clipboard to do a risk assessment and if I find one leaf on the pitch that someone might slip on, I’m calling the cops.

    • 168
      bergen says:

      In this workplace we’re worrying about keeping expenditure down and avoiding redundancies-I think the public sector exists in a parallel universe.If this is Brown’s investment in public services ,he can stick it right up his backside.

  4. 4
    Yoof of today says:

    naahh, it’s the wealth creating public sector innit

    • 11
      Down with Brown! says:

      This is why we are borrowing £20 million a day so civil servants can get big fat salaries to organise Mixed Touch Rugby and Mixed Tug of War days.

      • 18
        Carol Caplin says:

        do they have mixed showers afterwards?

        • 25
          Nick Griffin says:

          Not when I’m in charge they won’t.

          • Duncan says:

            I’ve heard it said you’ll change the water supply to gas.

          • Bottle-fed Triplet says:

            Maybe Nick would like the showers to have Zyklon B instead of shower gel?

          • Gill Ette says:

            I shave with zyklon b every morning, never does me any harm.

          • Herr V. says:

            That is in very poor taste.

            Anyway, the B&P are socialists. Read their “manifesto”, if you can be bothered. Statists, worse than Labour.

          • National Y Fronts for the Librairanisation of the Folk of England says:

            Don’t forget policies on race and violence towards minorities, especially the preverts.

            One Folk!
            One Party!
            One Leader!
            Hail!

          • Mr Ned says:

            Have you seen the videos on youtube of volunteers showering in zyklon B? Didn’t do them any harm either.

            I am not denying the holocaust in the least, but some parts of the holocaust story and the profitable compensation industry built up from it are utter bollocks and have been proven so.

            They should get their story straight and at least admit the parts that are wrong, as these parts damage the credibility of the rest of the true holocaust story and provide ammunition for the foul racists and anti-semitic bastards that would love a repeat of the “final solution”.

      • 214
        Road_Hog says:

        I keep telling you, it’s £20 million an hour you fool!

      • 220
        Down with Brown! says:

        Should read above borrowing £20 million an hour or £480 million a day.

  5. 5
    Nick Robinson says:

    Anyone with the name Ashley is a prick.

  6. 6
    President Mandy says:

    Did someone mention a tugging session? Count me in

  7. 7
    Down with Brown! says:

    Mandleson under pressure too:

    http://page.politicshome.com/uk/clarke_post_privatisation_will_be_in_tory_manifesto.html

    The vultures aren’t just circling around New Labour. They are already feeding of its carcass.

    • 52
      udderly 'orrible says:

      Dale’s blog says:
      “Parliamentary Standards Authority Chairman will trouser a massive £208,000 a year… Board members will be paid…the equivalent of £104,000, PSAC will thus earn more than three times the salary of the MPs he will be overseeing. ”

      Hope Mr Fawkes has some gunpowder left for this yet-to-be-appointed big-time, snout-in-trougher.

      “Socialism means never knowing shame”

      • 65
        Master Baiter says:

        Plus expenses allowances and other perks, just like the military officers’ and their private school fees perk, and a nice one it is too.

        • 81
          Bottle-fed Triplet says:

          You Berk, it’s spelled perq.

        • 182
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          The link you showed was for the cops that you’ve spent the last ten years politicising, you dozy fucker.

          The military’s Boarding School Allowance was done to death a few days ago and you were shown up then to be way out of your depth, Baiter. Your dogwhistling shite doesnt work around here.

          I dare say Guido would probably be happy for you to stay around and make an even bigger c’unt of yourself though, so keep trying!

        • 233
          Putin says:

          Discredited one. Your previous assertions about officer’s perks(spell it howy ou like) have been roundly disproven. Repeating the story may be the party line but it has been rumbled. Time to change.

          However,they do not earn £208,000 a year and do not need to be appointed to control the excesses of a sanctimonious,self serving set of hypocrites.

          Thanks for the link to the piece about police officer’s perks,which was not the subject under discussion.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Have officers lost their perk of free private school fees?

            No?

            Thought not.

          • Pontius The Pilot says:

            Well, your lot have been continuing to pay it for the last 12 fucking years, so what is your point, you idiot? They’ll lose the perk if you take it away.

            So, if its such a big deal, why havent you dont it?

            I’ll wait for the deafening silence in lieu of an answer from you that hasnt got anything to do with the pathetic class warfare that backfired on you in Crewe and Nantwich and will backfire everywhere else in seven months time…

            And considering the troughing your MP’s have been doing, you’ve hardly got even a toe anywhere near the moral high ground have you?

            Arent those self inflicted bullet holes in your feet starting to hurt, MB?

          • Mr Ned says:

            MB, they receive a contribution towards the fees as recognition of their sacrifice, or would you prefer that the children of our fighting folk went uneducated as they are moved from pillar to post?

            My wife was an RAF brat and her Father did not take up this offer of private tuition. She attended 14 different schools. Her education was a mess and her dream of becoming an astrophysicist was destroyed because the curriculum at some schools was opposite the curriculum at others at that time.

            Consequently she was taught some things three times and others not at all, resulting in poor exam results and she failed to get into college to study the course she wished to follow.

            Another friend of mine benefited from his father (a mere corporal) taking up the offer and he had a much more settled education.

            MB, when you have been discovered spouting utter shit. Stop!

          • Master Baiter says:

            Who said officers’ sprogs shouldn’t benefit from their parents’ getting the tax payer to pay for their private school fees?

            Come on, who said it?
            It’ll be better for everyone to own up now.

            Hmmm…Well, if that’s the way you want it, don’t say you weren’t warned.

        • 391
          Grit in the Vasceline says:

          Master Baiter – Get your facts straight; school fees are available for other ranks children as well.

          This is not a perk, it is necessary, as the military get posted regularly and their children would have a very interrupted education otherwise. My father was a regular soldier and he did not avail himself of this “perk”, consequently I went to twelve different schools in four different countries.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Private school fees for officers paid for by the tax payer is a great perk.

            Or isn’t it?

          • Grit in the Vasceline says:

            No.

          • Master Baiter says:

            What is their best perk then?
            Apart from officers getting each child’s education subsidised by the state to the tune of 200K or more, what do they get that’s better than that?

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            After 12 years of New labour why is private education considered a “perk” whereas state education is not?

      • 263
        Anonymous says:

        Expensive quango. I told all you pricks who were shouting for and “independent” body.

        • 468
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          Baiter, its getting boring and you dont know what you’re talking about.

          All you’re doing is making yourself look like an even bigger c’unt than you already are.

          Some achievement.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Nothing boring about military officers getting each child’s private education paid for by the tax payer to the tune of at least 200K.

            It’s a great perk.

            Isn’t it?

          • Policy HQ says:

            British Biscuits for British Workers!
            er that’s it

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            What is the equivalent cost of state education? It still costs the taxpayer.

    • 614
      Stalin says:

      Bator’s had a right ol’ kicking today. LOL

  8. 8
    spike says:

    Money down the drain=Labour.i dont know what this cost but it could of gone towards better equipment for our forces.

    • 46
      Master Baiter says:

      Or more private school fees for military officers’ sprogs.

      • 64
        Dave Lee Travis says:

        Change the record

        • 85
          Master Baiter says:

          It comes to about 87 million pounds a year, school fees for officers’ sprogs. that’s a lot of bang bang stuff, isn’t it?

          • Tony Blackburn says:

            Not arf

          • Alan Freeman says:

            That’s my line!

          • Tony Blackburn says:

            sorry fluff

          • tat says:

            not as much bang bang bang stuff as the army would be able to buy with the 30 million pounds the MOD has been paying every quarter for ten years to Prince Bandit of Saudi Arabia.
            oh and let’s not forget the MOD’s taxi expenses which total 50 thousand pounds a month which is exactly the same amount of money it costs to reinforce the underside of helicopters. the MOD chose to pay for the taxi fares they ran up but not for the reinforcement of the helicopters.
            soldiers die because the public masters at the MOD would rather jolly round London from restaurant to bar than supply our forces adequately.
            string them up I say.
            don’t you agree masterbaiter?

          • Alan Freeman says:

            Ok Mate. Lets rock!

          • tat says:

            oh, masterbaiter has run away.
            what a coward!
            don’t run away masterbaiter, I haven’t finished caving your skull in yet!

          • Master Batier says:

            Rat a tat tat tat,
            Without decorum there can be no discourse.

          • tat says:

            what a cowardly reply!
            you see, I told you masterbaiter is a coward.

          • Master Baiter says:

            A little less naughtiness and a little more decorum please.

            Oh and maybe a point?

          • tat says:

            yes, you do seem to be struggling to find a point worth making.
            you are toiling.
            you are toiling so much that soon your back will break.
            unless your neck gets snapped first ofcourse.

          • Master Baiter says:

            To trade insults with an imbecile whilst diverting ultimately is not satisfying.

          • tat says:

            atleast you have some insight into your condition imbecile.
            unfortunately there is no cure.
            oh well.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Perhaps that was a little unfair.

            Still chin up, eh?

          • tat says:

            I would say take your defeat like a man MB but ofcourse you are not a man, you are a bird.
            masterbaiter is a bird.
            it explains why she goes on and on and on and on and on.
            nags like a woman innit.
            she nags like a woman because she is one.
            game is up MB: you have been rumbled love.
            now stick the kettle on. two sugars.
            tuscan tony and the beast of berkwell will probably fancy a cuppa too.
            well done.

          • Master Baiter says:

            What’s the point?

          • tat says:

            well the point of a nice cup of tea apart from the social ritual aspect of it is that it leaves one feeling refreshed.
            innit.
            you dozey tart.
            you couldn’t do us a couple of slices of toast while you’re up could you?
            with marmalade on top, ta luv.
            with a bit of training you will make someone a half decent wife MB.

          • Master Baiter says:

            It’s said a nice cup of tea can be had by the engineer on his chuff chuff, using the steam from his engine.
            With practice probably make a mean cappuccino too, with chocolate shavings on the top of all that froth.
            Is that true?
            Is that where all the froth comes from?
            From the engine on the cuff chuff?

            Whooo! Whooo!

          • Dick the Prick says:

            Now if you two could just play nicely from now on and not disturb the adults – that would be perfect.

      • 92
        Bottle-fed Triplet says:

        Blimey MB stop whingeing. It is in their contract so what’s wrong with them getting it? You lot agreed to it so stop moaning. If you didn’t like it why didn’t you change it 12 years ago?

        You moaned about Fred Goodwin’s pension but that’s what he agreed with his bosses. Years ago you also “negotiated” a deal with John DeLorean and he took you to the cleaners.

        Stop whingeing, if you can’t negotiate a proper deal then don’t complain about it afterwards.

        • 124
          Master Baiter says:

          Why shouldn’t there be more school fees for the private education of officers’ sprogs?

          • Headmaster says:

            Indeed

          • Mr Ned says:

            You have had the rules of this explained to you ad nauseum and had your argument taken apart piece by piece by several people MB.

            Yet you still keep posting the same retarded disproven, incorrect bullshit over and over.

            Now Fuck off!

      • 140
        Mr T says:

        Say MB why don’t you join up, go to Helmand for six months and see what it’s like being shot at every day rather than sitting in your piss soaked nappy whining about this minor “perk”. Twat.

      • 173
        bergen says:

        Christ,M-B,if that’s the best you can manage things must be even worse in the bunker than I thought.

  9. 9
    Rupert Murdock says:

    tits out for the asylum seekers.

  10. 12
    President T Blair Esq says:

    Did somebody mention war, count me in!

  11. 13
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    This is common practice across all government departments. Among other perks of the life are:

    1. A day off for the Queens’s birthday
    2. Half a day off for Maundy Thursday – which with judicious use of fictional ‘flexi’ turns into another day off.

    So that’s two days extra leave plus the time off for sports.

  12. 14
    Tongan cleaner says:

    are those lesbian bints doing the Haka?

  13. 16
    ++SKY BREAKING NEWS++ says:

    ++ASHLEY ROBINSON ADMITS: I AM A LAZY SKIVING C’UNT WHO IS NOT DOING MY JOB PROPERLY++ROBINSON SAYS ” WHO CARES IF I AM FAILING IN MY DUTY, I AM ORGANISING A NICE JOLLY FOR MY FELLOW PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO GIVES A FUCK, LET’S HAVE SOME FUN AND FORGET ALL OUR TROUBLES.++ASHLEY ROBINSON STICKS TWO FINGERS UP AT TAXPAYER++ ROBINSON SAYS”FUCK YOU TAXPAYER I AM A FAILURE AND I STILL GET PAID FUCKING LOADS OF CASH KEEP PAYING YOU SUCKERS WHILE I HAVE THE LIFE OF REILLY EVEN THOUGH I AM INCOMPETENT AND FAIL TO CARRY OUT THE DUTIES YOU PAY ME TO DO. I AM A FAILURE, SO WHAT? YOU MUGS, JUST COUGH UP FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS TO HAVE FUN STOP MOANING KILLJOYS AND PAY FOR ME TO SWAN ABOUT ON JOLLIES”++

  14. 20
    Exit plan says:

    I sat with a consultant surgeon this morning who told me that the Govt have introduced this rule that a patient must be seen within 18 weeks – end of February 2010 from today’s date – this has meant that people have no idea if they will be seen next week,three weeks time or in the 18th week for their operation.

    That’s the same here in Somerset as everywhere else.

    But the govt are trying to get non-doctor’s to perform some of these operations to ensure these targets are met.

    Couple this with the fact the govt are actually encouraging poor performing students to apply to read medicine at University,and we are stuffed – wait 18 weeks for a non-doctor to perform an op or pay up out of your hard earned savings that are getting more and more worthless by the month?

    Oh and don’t forget the UK population will rise by 10,000,000 in the next few decades – I can hear the time bomb ticking away that will one day explode – a time bomb built by the Labour Party and set by Brown.

    So now we can have tug of war games at my expense?

    I will have left the country by the time my kids are through University (with massive debts) – this country is slowly being strangled to death.

  15. 21
    Down with Brown! says:

    Today’s the last day to sign the petition for Brown to go:

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/

    • 99
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      It’s not worth giving up your IP address for. I don’t begrudge those who sign it but I can’t imagine that at 9am tomorrow Gordon is going to say. “Oh look. there are 10 million signatures on this petition. I’ll get my coat”
      I’ve signed petitions to president Klauss because it’s a moaral booster hopefully. With Gordon it would only strengthen his resolve ‘cos he likes to piss on people.

  16. 26
    Exiled in Wales says:

    Guido, you old spoil-sport.

    This is just the public sector getting some fat off before they pig-out at the taxpayer’s expense at Christmas.

    Tut, tut ..

  17. 27
    TTHE says:

    This ‘gummunt’ is absolutely full of CHUMPS. The sad point is, WE pay for these CLINTS.

  18. 28
    Shocked of Sheen says:

    The world’s gone mad.

  19. 30

    ……the’ve got the BNP bloke in the middle of the rope and with luck he should stretch right back to Brussels,,,might as well be pulling ropes as it stops them screwing up elsewhere…. what happened to PMQ’s yesterday?

  20. 32
    MrPeregrination says:

    It is in line with best practice in the private sector

    Doesn’t sound like my part of the private sector. If it did, instead of playing rugby they would have made a third of the workforce redundant and told the rest ‘no pay rises this year’. Of course, maybe they are talking about senior management instead – in which case they could fly to work in their private helicopter (cant afford pay rises because aviation fuel is getting expensive maybe?). The UK is f£$%^”

  21. 34
    Seny by Blueberry wireless device says:

    In the real world most people start work early, finish late and have a cardboard sandwich at their desk for thier lunch ’10 minute’. A corporate ‘jolly’ either happens outwith working hours or at weekends, otherwise you take a days holiday. Underworked, overpaid public sector scroungers

  22. 36
    McGroom says:

    The Office of National Statistics records that public sector pay has risen 43% since 2000, while private sector pay rose 38%.

    Not only do these protected and pension pampered servants get better pay than the private sector, they also get fun days at our expense.

    With New Labour intent on destroying Britain’s leading private industries, where do these chumps think their wages will come from.

    • 332
      rick says:

      It used to be by taxing working people or borrowing so future generations would have to pay. We are now all taxed-out and all borrowed-out. Time to get those printing presses rolling. The Mugabe solution.

  23. 36
    Master Baiter says:

    We should all pull together.

    • 41
      McGroom says:

      New Labour = We didn’t do it, it was the Tories

      • 60
        Master Baiter says:

        The crisis started in America.

        Companies bailed out by the US government are to have drastic curbs on executive pay.

        Citigroup, Bank of America, American Insurance Group, General Motors and Chrysler will see an average reduction of 90% in the cash part of their pay packages.

        It started in America.

        • 74
          Fred Goodwin says:

          What, the tug of war crisis started in America? These big companies are doing Tug of war and touch rugby in lieu of pay?

          • Master Baiter says:

            We’re all in this together

          • RBS was us says:

            nah Fred, there making loads of your bank staff redundant but , strangely, none of the managers or directors – funny that – have you spent your first million this week yet???

        • 101
          McGroom says:

          Master Bastard

          You really don’t get it do you. Who cares where it started, its how you are going to fix it that counts.

          Gordon Brown (your paymaster and fearless leader) keeps saying he is getting on with the job while doing fuck all.

          Consumer spending is what drives an economy forward, yet all the cheap money this government prints is going to banks and big companies.

          Small businesses and individuals cannot borrow at 0.5% to dig themselves out of trouble.

          In 2000 after the technology bust, the Bank of England reduced interest rates to 1% to encourage individuals to borrow and spend, which transferred corporate debt to consumer debt. Eight years later, government beleif in no return to boom and bust encouraged corporations to rack up huge debts again. As consumers are stuffed with massive debt from the last rescue, the government is now bailing out corporations with our money for the second time in a decade.

          New Labour is the puppet of big business with Mandelson as the High priest.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Too long

          • Anonymous says:

            MB you are right this lot have been in government for too long

          • Anonymous says:

            “Master Baiter says:
            October 22, 2009 at 12:53 pm

            Too long”

            Rough translation – my tiny little brain can’t grasp this properly, so I’ll just dismiss it. Your dear leader would be so proud of you MB.

        • 119
          Bottle-fed Triplet says:

          And what of the UK manufacturing sector MB? That has shrunk since 1997 and vital skills and capability has been lost. Jobs have disappeared and pay has stagnated. What about the industrial heartlands MB?

          Open an Argos catalogue at any page and you will find manufactured goods from China on each one. You will have to go through it with a fine toothed comb to find anything made in the UK. You really are out of touch.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Isn’t Argos in Greece?

          • Bottle-fed Triplet says:

            That’s it MB take the p**s out of the working class. Oh, sorry, forgot, that’s what New Labour do isn’t it?

          • Master Baiter says:

            Grow a pair!

          • Killing industry is the Labour way says:

            I resent you claiming that the UK manufacturing is dying, I mean just this week we’ve been told the glorious news that the last piano maker in the UK is shutting shop, and production is off to the Far East. More UK manufacturing jobs gone, more highly skilled people put onto the scrap heap. All hail New Labour for supporting British manufacturers.

    • 61
      Sue Tzuzir says:

      Pull together=group wanking. It’s what the cabinet has been doing for 12 years.

    • 346

      Socialists should all hang together.

  24. 42
    Be Gone Gordon ! says:

    More “best practice” – this time from the boys in blue, naturally eager to help the “common purpose” to show Mcsnotty as being tough on crime………. or have they just been caught fiddling the tractor stats again …….

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8320000.stm

    • 57
      Stop the world,I want to get off! says:

      But surely bullying and attacking defenceless women with children is NOT a crime – under this thuggish govt of absolutely no talent,the victim is the criminal and the criminal is the victim of simply not having enough taxpayers money thrown at them to support them in their feral lives?

      And don’t get me started on Fatso with his playstation /pc and brigade of nurses cos he can’t keep his bloody mouth shut for long enough not to stuff his grotty face with even MORE food.

    • 113
      ANon says:

      Well now the Police will be allowed to “lightly beat” suspects without being at risk of prosecution so no crime committed.

      A lesson learnt from the IDF. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1122549.html

      • 545
        Welcome to the future says:

        Good hope they beat the muslim troublemakers in this country up a bit, next time they start mouthing off.

  25. 43
    Unsworth says:

    “may be considered as harmful to the public will be prioritised”

    WTF does that mean in English?

    ‘May be’ – by whom?

    ‘Harmful to’ – in what way?

    ‘prioritised’ – over what? Over stupid mixed tugs of war at Imber Court on our money?

    Lin Homer is a dangerous idiot.

    • 63
      Protection? I'm all right Jack! says:

      It means stab proof vests for the vile Harman while she tours her own constituency while her constituents get stabbed to death in stairwells with no protection – that what it means.

      If Brown did not have the 24 hour protection he gets from armed guards,they would have to piece his body back together using sellotape if he was ever found on the streets of Britain by the electorate (well,not really electorate,cos we don’t ever get the chance to vote him and his thugs out).

  26. 47
    SPACEman says:

    Christ…. talk about being utterly detached from the reality of life for most people in the UK… good call Guido!

  27. 48
    A.N. Mouse says:

    “Well, fancy giving money to the Government! Might as well have put it down the drain.”

    AP Herbert

  28. 49
    Anonymous says:

    This is a bit of a red herring – I used to go on team building jollies all the time when I worked for a bank’s head office and it ‘never did me any harm’ – in fact it was probably the most productive time of my life.

    Judge by results, not stuff like this. If they are delivering crap results, then have a go at them even if they are working all hours.. It is about working smart not working hard so IF they are improving matters, then I don’t see what the fuss is about.

    We used to work a lot of unpaid overtime, so I don’t think the situation is much different here.

  29. 51
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    Robinson is not fit for purpose – sack him.

  30. 55
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Well done to the mole who leaked this.
    Surely there must be much more of it all over the country, so keep ‘em coming – in the face of such lunacy you’ll be doing your bit to put things right.

  31. 69
    Rexel 56 says:

    To be fair, I can recall during the 80s and 90s when I was in corporate world that such events were indeed commonplace…..

    …. but that was before Gordon Brown abolished boom and bust, saved the world, borrowed the odd trillion quid and fucked my pension.

    Now the private sector is a somewhat more frugal place to be. And I’ll be voting for whichever party commits to make the public sector likewise.

  32. 70
    Alan Douglas says:

    “Ashley : I don’t know what you are talking about.”

    followed by :

    “Ashley : Someone has forwarded you my email have they?”

    Where in the Civil Service Code does it say part of the job is to LIE ?

    This man has LIED to the public he is suppose to serve – is there no effective action we can take against him ?

    There should be.

    I’ve watched recent reruns of Yes Minister – nothing has changed.

    Alan Douglas

    • 111
      I'll have some of that says:

      The hunt for the email leaker will now assume absolute priority. This is a grave threat to national security. Everyone who has received the information in the email is guilty by association. We are all doomed!

      • 404
        udderly 'orrible says:

        Search the Palace of Westminister. Recall Jackytatty-booty Smiff. Knacker, over ‘ere quick.

        • 557
          Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until that c'nt brown calls the General Election says:

          It must be a Tory MP – send the anti-terrorist mob in.

    • 625
      Stalin says:

      Ashley is not just taking a paid day off. How many manhours does it take to organise such an event?

      Loads.

      But he probably does it all in his free time.

  33. 72
    Road_Hog says:

    Right, where’s my atenolol tablets.

    • 138
      streamfisher says:

      I’m up to 50mg a day already. Anybody know who will be on the panel for Question time? bet its the ‘big guns’ who turn out, Straw or Harperson, Clegg, Conservatives?, will spend 45 minutes spouting the moral high ground in the full knowledge that no awkward questions will be asked about their policies, plus lefty socialist journalist or celeb ,should be a right circus, don’t think I will be watching, BBC….. soap operas is what we do.

      • 235
        Road_Hog says:

        Straw for Lab, Warsi for Con, Huhne for Lib, Bonnie Greer is the non party political panellist (black American now living in the UK) and of course Nick Griffin for the BNP.

        • 305
          English Liberation Front says:

          Bonnie Greer is a right-on, aged hippie with right-on 1968 anti-Vietnam War right-on, headband views. Power to the people, man. Make love not war.

          Oh, by the way, she brings her colour into most discussions, whether or not it is relevant.

          Probably only slightly less extreme and bogoted than Yasmin Alibi (for Hain) Brown.

          • rick says:

            Nick can usually handle odds of 4 to 1 against. Just hope he doesn’t fuck-up under pressure. I wonder how many times he will be called “Toy-Town-Nazi” by the unwashed ones.

          • udderly 'orrible says:

            Nick Griffin should have the stage sprayed for cockroaches before he agrees to take his seat.

          • National Y Fronts for the Librarianisation of the Folk of England says:

            Tonight will be a glorious night in the anals of the Party!
            One Folk!
            One Party!
            One Leader!
            Hail!

          • Thats News says:

            Opening Reading – Damian Lewis and Adjoa Andoh delivered extracts from The Peasants’ Revolt of 1381 and The Pan-African Congress of 1945.

            Lovely!

          • Brown's a Tosser says:

            At least we have a leader of a party on the QT panel. Why not Brown, Cameron and Clegg?

    • 196

      Atenolol? Is that the trade name for Special Smaties?

  34. 77
    RestandBthankful says:

    Land registry to lose 1,500 jobs and close 5 offices.

    • 213

      Well that’s a sign the boom in house affordability is just starting.

    • 651
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Quite something and a sign of the times me thinks. I can never remember at anytime previously where the LR has cut staff. Brown investment mantra appears to be yet another mantra in tatters.

  35. 83
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Nice sting Guido. You must have some great insider contacts. What these people, (including the likes of McBride) dont seem to realise, is that they probably work alongside a not insignificant proportion of decent people that are not interested in poxy nonsense like this, who just want to be seen to be doing a good job and disapprove of taxpayers’ money being squandered in this way. Hence emails leaked to Guido.

  36. 86
    Sir William Waad says:

    A couple of things spring to mind:

    1. Aren’t these people all on flexi, in which case they should have plenty of leave available for a bit of fun like this?

    2. Are the events open to staff who have been on extended sick leave with a bad back?

    • 148
      Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

      Of course the ones on sick leave with the “bad back” won’t be there!

      They’ll be too busy playing golf….

      • 276
        Vietghanistan is Browns last stand then he's replaced with Miliband says:

        contacts old boy, contacts
        how is an aspiring civil servant supposed to worm his way to the top of a government department without the vigorous networking of golf ?
        simply preposterous
        golf days are essential
        tug of war is for the sexual deviants

  37. 87
    SO17 says:

    War on Terror,War on Climate change.
    Letting 40,000 unknown carbon producers loose in the country fucks that on both counts.
    Labour dont do joined up thinking.

  38. 91
    Justice Fingers says:

    Has anyone at the UKBA checked with Baroness Scotland to see if she has any idea where any of the 40,000 lost immigrants are? Or are they too busy?

  39. 93
    Peter Grimes says:

    Good to know that the UKBA keeps up the best traditions of our CS and our ‘government’ and tries first off to lie about what it is doing!

  40. 98
    The Penguin says:

    British Groping For British Workers!

    The Penguin

  41. 106
    BBC Coke Head says:

    I think the Sunlight Centre for Open Politics should go along and try to enter a team.

  42. 116
    Roger Dodger says:

    1: There are no scrums in touch rugby.

    2: Better this than some ‘awareness training’.

    3: Should the Army stop playing sport together? Is that an affront to the taxpayer?

    • 132
      Peter Grimes says:

      Foxtrot Oscar!

      • 155
        Master Baiter says:

        No the army would never play Rugby on paid time.

        Would they?

        • 198
          Doc Trough says:

          I did. And cricket. And skiing – that even had it’s own unfortunate monicker, Ex. Snow Queen. Those were, of course, more innocent times….

          • Master Baiter says:

            Please inform Guidiot the Oaf.

            He will foment a frothing tide of OUT RAGE against this pernicious use of the saintly payers of tithes and taxes, oh woe!

          • Anonymous says:

            I would love to see a face to face debate between Guido and MB, as for all his bravado when posting here and calling our host “The Oaf” and whatever else, I think we all know that the latter would end up being made to look like the dopey little prick we all know he is by the former – I’d pay good money to see that.

        • 250
          Putin says:

          It is clear,once again that originality of thought and sharpness of wit are singularly lacking in your case. Coupled with woeful research skills and an inability to form a reasoned argument,your work this term has fallen short of the standards required.

          Of concern is your continuing asociation with Socialist types. You will never get into Parliament if this continues.

          Write out 5000 times ‘Baroness Thatcher made the country great’ then knit yourself a blue rosette.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The Army are being paid to play Rugby, Cricket and even going skiing when they should be stamping people’s passports?

            God save us all from the hairy hordes!

          • Doc Trough says:

            It made a welcome change from smashing doors in at sparrow fart and rooting around in ditches for command wires. Richly deserved and quite necessary.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            The army are being paid to keep fit and to be competitive, numbnutz.

            Or should they stay at their desks all day long?

    • 141
      fruitcake says:

      point 3.
      Why not? The TA have been told to stop training.

    • 142
      P1 says:

      on 3) – No. The Army have a job where real rugby plays a part in terms of team building, physcial activity, leadership etc.

      Let’s start a petition for “No touch rugby by civil servants on a weekday”.

    • 159
      streamfisher says:

      Touchy Feely Rugby can be very dangerous, Gordon lost an eye playing it (allegedly).

    • 175
      Sir William Waad says:

      The Army is different because, by the nature of military life, they are not fighting all the time. The life of a soldier consists, they say, of long periods of boredom and short periods of terror. Soldiers need to stay fit, meanwhile, so it’s either the gym or sport, or both. These Border Agency people have work to do all the time and playing rugby is no direct help to them.

      A fair analogy would be a genuine training course for Border Agency staff. Nobody would object to that.

    • 192
      Ex Army Sportsman says:

      Point 3
      As the Army pay squaddies for 24/7/365 they couldnt possibly do any sport in their own time as they dont officially have any.

      • 677
        Roger Dodger says:

        Ok then. Should all TA units including OTC’s who are paid by the hour stop being paid for sessions dedicated to sport?
        Rugby is as likely to injure them as keep them fit.

        I have no problem with Civil Servants having a sports day here and there., Good for team work. I don’t even mind paying for it.

        My bigger concern is that the work they are employed to do is pointless non-work.
        Not the case here.

    • 659
      BBCCokehead (hiding from crazy Trots) says:

      I forgot what I was going to type. Whatever! Basically I think Ashley is a bit of ████*.

      * Rhymes with ‘Punt’, very topical!

      • 660
        BBCCokehead (hiding from crazy Trots) says:

        Oh yeah sorry! I was going to say Ashley is a bit of a ████ like Blinky is a bit of a bully.

        I’m not doing this very well today am I? The Trots really are freaking me out. They’ve started fighting with the Bolshies >inside< the BBC now….

        yeah yeah…the workers should own the means of production.. now leave me alone, please, I'm trying to do some lines here dude!!!!

        • 661
          BBCCokehead (hiding from crazy Trots) says:

          ████ still rhymes with ‘Punt’ in that one too, and it’s STILL topical. How strange life is.

          Now I’ve got to find Dimbo before he’s rogered by Griffin…again. Honestly, Nick is like a Terrier on heat.

  43. 122
    Fwd: says:

    Fwd:

    A big cheer for Guido’s growing army of email-forwarders! Long may they continue!

    • 150
      Chris Galley (ex Immigration now Sunlight Centre says:

      Thanks fortunately the UK Border Agency is full of right wing nut jobs.

    • 222
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      Does Guido Say “Hello, this is Guido fawkes” when he phones these miscreants up?

      “If Guido Fawkes calls, tell him I’m not in”. Secretary-”Eh”?
      Secretary- “How are you spelling that Mr Forks”

  44. 123
    banana republic watcher says:

    its you lot that is paying for it now. Me I am out of work and also not well.
    The rightous are beyond contempt, but the middle class will just pay up or fly away to somewhere nice.

  45. 125
    Right Bastard says:

    One step away from a Roman-style orgy and while London burns “Nero” Brown will be on the fiddle.

  46. 128
    Ashley Robinson says:

    I am a liar.
    I have been caught out by Guido. I am going to cancel the jolly now that it has come to the attention of the most popular blog in the country for if I do not then I will get my fucking brains bashed out and Guido will make my life a fucking misery.

  47. 130
    fruitcake says:

    I’ve just asked my boss for paid leave to go play touch rugby.

    He rather impolitely informed me, in essence, that yes I could, providing I didn’t bother ever coming back.

    If only I’d wasted my education and gone into the Civil (chumps r us) Service

    • 230
      Gonk says:

      Funny that. I’ve just asked myself if I can close the business down to play rugby and I’ve had to tell myself to fuck off.

  48. 131
    Lizzie says:

    Under New Labour, gone are the days of a pint of lager,packet of crisps and a round of darts get together after work.

    • 234
      streamfisher says:

    • 291
      Johnny says says:

      Pints – how long will they last against the metric onslaught?
      Crisps – smaller portions but not smaller prices with the cover of the food police threatening them with legislation.
      Darts – Good God no. Someone might have an eye out.

      • 293
        Johnny says says:

        ‘them’ being the crips manufacturers.

        • 369
          albacore says:

          Crips?
          Ain’t they a gang?
          You mean they’re manufacturing the little feral bastards now?
          Well, that’s one growth industry that Brown can crow about.

      • 655
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        The metrication of pints of ale has already started. I drink 10 on a Friday night now instead of a dozen.

  49. 136
    Inspector Cyril Blake says:

    good work Guido, and Guido’s mole.

    it’s not just the Home Office though, is it? From personal experience I can state categorically that this sort of spendthrift laziness and troughing is endemic throughout the entire public sector. I used to work at an NHS Trust hq and was appalled by the wasteful indulgence and arrogant frivolity exercised in by all grades of staff from top to bottom – like an idiot I was foolish enough to openly voice my opinion at the troughing at taxpayers’ expense and thus was marked for termination.

    • 154
      South of the M4 says:

      It is not so different in the private sector in my experience. Except that there belts are tightened when business is poor and such jollies are postponed or scrapped. But in the public sector they just keep rolling along. Guardian Thursday today. How many pages of non-jobs are there today?

    • 243
      Anonymous says:

      Just in one SHA I know the annual bill for FIRST CLASS travel by staff runs into hundreds of thousands

      • 395
        Inspector Cyril Blake says:

        In just one PCT* that I know, there is a budget of £10,000 set aside for the HQ building to pay for lunchtime buffets for staff – the purpose being that staff can get memoranda read out to them whilst troughing, rather than having to go through all the effort of reading it themselves. It’s not just ham sarnies and a few vol-au-vents either, this is really good quality grub and they spend over £2K a week on it. As well as the subsidised canteen.

        *South Staffordshire, based in Tamworth. Just in case Guido or any other interested parties would care to dig deeper.

        I was f*cking disgusted, especially as patients are starving to death in Staffordshire hospitals and to get by as a patient you’d better have family and friends who’ll bring you grub in, whilst the admin staff who never see a patient stuff their fat stupid faces at the taxpayers expense.

    • 320
      Susie says:

      I know for a fact that a certain Labour Lord used to take his entire team of consultants on an annual skiing trip every year… Around our way, they have more nautical preferences — the councillors take turns to be invited aboard the ocean going yacht owned by the ex-mayor for various round Britain and beyond sailing trips.

      Q: How does an ex-public servant afford the £300k to buy a yacht?

  50. 145
    • 368
      streamfisher says:

      No news today then on the Recorder, what not even a WI bring and buy?, £10,000 a year allowance for the communication highway well troughed.

  51. 149
    W McLaren says:

    There’ll be singing and dancing in the streets of East Molesey that night I can tell ye. A’ on oor money bytheway.

    Send him doon, yon Zanu Warrior
    Send him doon yon ZaNu Labour Chief,Chief, Chief!

  52. 152
    Heads on poles says:

    You ask why they are doing this rather than catch illegal immigrants?
    It’s because this is easier.
    That is all.

  53. 164
    Colonel Nut. says:

    Wouldn’t Hide and Seek be a more appropriate game for them to play?

    • 187
      Sir William Waad says:

      Excellent point. Can you copy it to Chris Grayling, please?

    • 189
      streamfisher says:

      Nobody would go looking and they wouldn’t be missed. Headline on front page of the Daily Sport (whatever happened to that, tit count for today 347), Hide and Seek World Champion Found Dead in Cupboard.

    • 223
      Prescott & Temple says:

      …mmmmmmm Ride ‘n’ Tweak.

    • 304

      Nah! Their bosses wouldn’t let them just in case they stumbled over some real illegals and actually had to do something.

    • 656
      RobC says:

      I’d personally set up a game called “spot the worker”.
      There must be some poor sod somewhere in whitehall that actually does a fair day’s work for pay however bloated the salary?

  54. 169
    touching cloth says:

    fucking arseholes – get back to work

  55. 170
    The EU says:

    Ashley Robinson is a very good fellow, he is doing what we tell him to do.
    Mr Robinson works for the EU. As do all the British public servants, they work for us now.
    Did you miss a meeting?

    • 183
      Sir William Waad says:

      Ah, well, if we’d had the sense to join Schengen, that would be true. The French and others would be doing some of the work of keeping out the illegals and we wouldn’t have to queue up at immigration when we travel to the Schengen countries. But no, we wanted to go it alone. When the EU could actually have provided us with a benefit we turned it down.

      • 201
        The EU says:

        You are in on the Schengen deal you mug.
        Although not officially of course, so you recieve none of the benefits, only the costs.
        Any benefits you could get from the EU are refused to you by your government.
        There is nothing in it for the British people to be in the EU but the EU could not survive without British contributions.
        Funny old world, isn’t it?

      • 237
        Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

        you are joking aren’t you?

        Other countries do try to stop illegals coming in, but as France aren’t allowed to do that at the borders with spain, italy, etc. its mainly the “catch people who are already here” lark.

        If we were in schengen we wouldn’t be allowed to check/stop the folks that are currently hanging around in sangatte.

        • 354
          The EU says:

          The real Europeans are very clever, when illegal immigrants gain entry to Europe they wave them through, they even supply them with tickets to travel to Britain.
          40,000 illegal immigrants can’t be found in England! You must have had over a million of them entering your country unchallenged in the last five years alone.
          Yes, they seem to be getting in to Britain with no problems whatsoever.
          What were you saying about check/stops?
          Your checks don’t seem to be working very well, if at all, do they?

        • 453
          udderly 'orrible says:

          ….hanging around Sangatte!

          Two-thirds of that lot are already in the UK warmed and fed by the taxpayer, the rest will be along shortly.

          Liebour: “asylum-smuggling” its what we do.

        • 648
          Call me Infidel says:

          Hate to break it to you but Sangatte closed in 2002 when Britain gave “visas” to about 1200 people. The “Jungle” was located in Calais but since the French bulldozed it the illegals have moved up to Dunkirk for now.

  56. 185
    58 Degrees North says:

    Does this TOUCH RUGBY thing include such moves / players
    the likes of Michelle Cassidy, Suzanne Pegg and Erica Roe?
    Border Agency publicity shots please….

  57. 186
    barefootcontessa says:

    Brillo on tele now, talking to CWU union leader etc,

  58. 191
    Anonymous says:

    The CSSC is populated by workshy idlers. They include, amongst others, staff who telecommute from the Mediterranean. I’m sure its fine for their morale but anyone in the private sector(who afterall pay their salaries) who tries to conduct business with these loafers will soon realise that the phrase “sense of urgency” has no meaning in their world.

  59. 194
    Bob Careful says:

    Just wait till the TWATS injure themselves, then it’s trauma counciling and 40 weeks off on sick leave with full pension benefits.

    You have to remember that people working for the public sector, are fat and ugly. If they play rugby, they will land on someone and injure them!!!

  60. 199
    Borg Drone Won says:

    Just look for those guarding the Prime Minister.

  61. 202
    Don't Care Bear says:

    I’m pissed off about the Postal strike.

    The cat shite profiteroles that I sent to Brown as a pick me up will be practically inedible by the time he gets them.

    • 239
      It's a funny Old World ! says:

      What Post Strike – I’ve just had my normal post delivery from our normal postwoman AND it was actually earlier than usual. So what’s going on ? Is it a strike or not ?

      • 261
        Don't Care Bear says:

        Now that has cheered me up! :)

      • 283
        The Sleeper says:

        Yep…had my post this morning. Asked the postie why he wasn’t on strike? Not my turn..it’s the sorters today,mine tomorrow..

        ..”but don’t worry,it’s a load of shit,I’ll be working as normal”.

        So where’s the unanimity of the CWU, gentlemen?

        • 350
          albacore says:

          All the post through my letterbox this morning was addressed to the house next door.
          Now, that’s solidarity for you.
          Even if it is between the ears.

        • 427

          I think they saw what happened to the miners.

          We don’t need “Royal Mail” to be a monopoly, there are lots of people who’ll do their jobs.

          I support postal competition!

          • tat says:

            you support crackcocaine use but that does not mean it should be made compulsory.
            you are arguing in favour of people having to go to a mail office to collect their mail and for the universal postage price to be scrapped and replaced with pay per mile postage.
            you are arguing in favour of a more expensive service with less value to the user.
            you are an idiot antisocialcitizen. you are a complete wanker.
            fuck off and soil someone else’s blog you fucking retard.

          • I would argue for “Universal postage price to be scrapped and replaced with pay per mile postage”.

            Charges should align with costs. I detest forced subsidy in all it’s forms.

            Tat obviously thinks his location and communications costs should be subsidised.

          • BTW Tat it’s not your blog. You’re the troll, not me.

          • Thats News says:

            Competition in mail delivery? Oh, yes! That’s when everyone wants the plum jobs, but nobody wants -say- to deliver mail to a small village half way up a mountain in Mid Wales.

  62. 210
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Well I could find 40,000 illegals easily. Just go round to Baroness Scotland’s flat. Most of them will be there working.

  63. 217
    simon r says:

    No doubt many of them are on flexitime as well, so they will not be in their offices on Friday either.

  64. 218
    Heidi says:

    As president of the Cabinet Office Naked Gilbert and Sullivan Society, I don’t see any problem with some Home Office colleagues having a little romp in the mud from time to time.

  65. 227
    Homie Officer says:

    I’m going to say I’m going then stay at home on full pay. Sweet!

  66. 231
    tat says:

    and all you guys who are attacking this skiver robinson are also moaning about reall hard working post men getting a decent wage and decent conditions.
    you must be having a larf.
    useless c’unts like robinson should be strung up, whereas the post men should be given our full support.
    they earn their money, robinson does not.
    simple, innit.

    • 604
      Thats News says:

      True tat, very true. Our postman does four rounds, now. He has so many bags of mail -one per round- that he has to take his own car as his is a ‘foot round’ and they will not give him a van, even though he has four rounds.

      • 631
        Ivor Dayjob says:

        You will find that most of the “mail” delivered today but your postman is junk mail. This junk mail is worth millions to the PO.

        They recruit ethnic minorities and pay them minimum wage and the posties deliver it. There is so much of it, that the real post is secondary.

        Thats why they are doing 4 rounds.

    • 624
      Ivor Dayjob says:

      Rubbish – I’ve worked for the PO – its stuck in a timewarp.

  67. 241
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    OT: Has it go to the stage where you just have to say the words “Mark Oaten” to get a laugh? Jacqui Smith is nearly there – how long before Gordon Brown reaches such dizzying heights?

  68. 249
    Down with Brown! says:

    Harman just announced that the MPs are going to get another three -week holiday. It’s great money for a part-time job.

    “Harriett Harman this morning announced the business in the House of Commons for the next two weeks. She also revealed that the House will rise for Christmas on Wednesday 16th December, and return on Tuesday 5th January.”

    • 257
      Postman Twat says:

      They need that time off to go and collect their Chritmas cards.

      • 287
        It's a funny Old World ! says:

        Or taxpayers funded all expenses;first class travel and 5 star hotels fact finding missions to the Bahamas;Australia or wherever the fancy takes them.

        • 379
          Cynthia Plain says:

          It’s hard to imagine loving again after these hate-filled twelve years of Labour.

          • Rev. Williams says:

            What planet do you live on,the most glorious and wonderful years of my life. Labour Care – Tories Stamp on the weak like they did last time.God help us if they get in.

          • Silent Bob's shorthand secretary says:

            After what Labour have done just please fuck off and die you cretin

      • 310

        Well, that’s understandable. 10,000 envelopes stuffed with turds must take time to open.

    • 632
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      There’s fuck all for them to do these days.

  69. 262
    At-Large Immigrant says:

    Naaa naaa nee naaa naaa – chase me chase me!!!!!!!!

  70. 271

    Yet another pitifully incompetent government department. More interested in their own bullshit and bonuses than doing their jobs. Bring back troops from Afghanistan and use them to police immigration, sack all the UKBA cretins, their bosses and while you’re at it 75% of the entire civil service. Almost immediately you’d see an improvement as long as the sackings were from the top down.

  71. 298
    Bob Carful says:

    Leaked script from tonights edition of BBC’s Question Slime:

    Jack Straw: So Nick, why do you expect the British public to support you when you advocate repatriating all our Muslims, don’t you realise just how vile you are??

    Nick Griffin: We only advocate sending them back to their country, Labour on the other hand have murdered 80,000 Muslims with illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan!!

    Jack Straw: Hmmmph – OK, some of the BNP councillors have prison records, they are criminals!!!

    Nick Griffin: There are 60 MP’s in the HoC with criminal records, none of them are BNP. You have Gerry Adams and Martinn McGuiness, they are murderers. You also have a cabinet full of expenses thieves and tax dodgers!!

    Jack Straw: Fuck, this was suposed to be embarrasing for him not me!!!

  72. 302
    It's a funny Old World ! says:

    We can’t even get “Illegal Asylum Seekers” who we’ve deported accepted by their own country anyway even if we do apprehend them as we are deporting them “against their will”!

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/280602

  73. 309
    Stepney says:

    I don’t care.

    I’ve got a cold. I didn’t sleep last night so I’ve just tried a cheeky nap.

    Was just dropping off and guess what woke me up? The bloody postman at the door with a package and the post.

    Is there no stopping these b*stards?

  74. 311
    Dudley Zoo says:

    My postman is working today – the strike isn’t that solid

    • 326
      Chester Zoo says:

      Same here – got a letter for Mr.C.Lion

    • 331
      Ratsniffer says:

      Mine isn’t but his replacement was gorgeous and blonde and she smiled cheerfully as she delivered my junk mail.

      Posties are history thanks to their militant commie unions.

    • 356
      Anonymous says:

      third world mail service for a third world country

      • 401
        Charles Flaccidwidger says:

        We had a delivery at work today. The postman mentioned that the strike was currently only amongst the drivers who move post between depots. The strike for those doing the door to door deliveries starts tomorrow. Whether this is just locally or over the whole country is not clear.

    • 411
      It's a funny Old World ! says:

      Apparently it’s only the mail centres etc out to-day and local delivery/sorting offices are un-affected. Our “posties” will be “out” tomorrow
      BBC also announced that CWU is to hold three more days of national strike starting Thursday next week.

      It’s going to get a lot worse before it get’s better or until someone “Blinks”first

  75. 322

    Are even AlJaBeebya having a coded Laugh at Gordon’s economic policies?

    Headline: “Zero growth for UK retail sales”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8319975.stm

  76. 325
    Munkey Majic says:

    Touch rugby?

    what do you touch?

  77. 327
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    I imagine that he will prioritising a forensic analysis of everyone’s email activity over the last couple of days to finger whoever sent the email to Guido.

    I hope they covered their tracks well, or they probably can expect a couple of coppers knocking on their doors – because it’s the right thing to do.

    • 338
      Porkers anonymous says:

      it’s a threat to national security not just the right thing to do

      • 342
        Gordon ( I AM a moron ) Brhoon says:

        We need to learn the lessons, draw a line under this, move on and get on with the job because it’s the right thing to do.

        AND, there will be no rewards for failure unless you work in the public sector or are a Labour MP.

  78. 334
    Dame Vera Lynne Launches Poppy appeal, the same Vera Lynne who thinks Afghanistan is a senseless war says:

    Hope she had a few choice words for Brown and Bliar’s folly

  79. 339
    FED-UP TAXPAYER says:

    ROLL UP, ROLL UP !!

    COME DOWN TO EAST MOLESEY NEXT THURSDAY !!

    VENUE:-

    L&SE Winter Games on Thursday 26th November 2009: 11-4 @ Metropolitan Police Sports Ground, Imber Court Ember Lane, East Molesey, Surrey, KT8 0BT

    COME AND THROW YOUR OLD FOOD SCRAPS, COMPOST,ROTTEN APPLES ETC. AT SOME ‘KEY WORKERS’ ON THEIR FULLY PAID ‘JOLLY’ !

    GREAT FUN FOR ALL !

  80. 344
    Ratsniffer says:

    Typical isn’t it? The second a civil servant is confronted he resorts to jargon…It’s “best practice”…. well no it isn’t actually, best pratice is that you lazy sods are being paid to work, not play rugby.

    Try a few weeks in the private sector, see where that kind of bollocks gets you:

    “Why weren’t you answering your phone? We’ve missed three valuable orders!”
    “Oh, I fancied a game of rugby….”
    “Right, you’re fired, you useless sack of shit. Security! Escort this arsehole off the premises…”

    • 374
      Phil Free says:

      Ratsniffer,

      That’s wishful thinking / made up nonsense, and you know it.

      I’ve worked in both, extensively, and there’s difference but it’s all evened out. In public sector you take a lower wage & limited promotion chances in return for job security, in private you take better wage and promotion chances in return for job insecurity.

      Almost mirror images but ALL covered by the same employment rights. So, ratsniffer, show me the stats that don’t show these people ‘escorted from premises by security’ that didnt result in a big payout?

      Arsehole capiltalists, talking arsehole capitalist nonsense. Yet again. Like the private sector is some free-for-all sacking…fest. Bullshit.

      • 380
        Ratsniffer says:

        “you take a lower wage & limited promotion chances in return for job security”

        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah!!!

        That might have been true 15 years ago but under Nulabour public sector wages and perks have climbed very nicely than you, and are equal to, or more than equivelant private sector renumeration. Not to mention pensions, of course.

        • 509
          Phil Free says:

          Sorry but hahahahahaa etc, doesnt really make an argument. Or i’m i missing something?

        • 512
          Phil Free says:

          Oh and your point about public/private wages matching. Pure bullshit mate, as far as normal workers wages go anyway.

      • 384
        The Sleeper says:

        I think that ratsniffer was perhaps being a little theatrical in getting his point across..which he did admirably.

        On the other hand…

        “So, ratsniffer, show me the stats that don’t show these people ‘escorted from premises by security’ that didnt result in a big payout?”

        Are you so dumb that you think everybody in the private sector who gets fired for ‘negligence..incompetence’..call it what you will..always get ‘big payouts’,then you are sorely mistaken.

        If sacked and asked to leave the premises immediately,they will almost all get pay in lieu of notice only…and that’s it.

        But..don’t let a good old bit of anticapitalism get in the way of reality.

      • 414
        ExEng says:

        Just because UK industry is hamstrung does not mean the rest of the competition is.

        I have “let go” an employ because I just could not work with him.

        I have seen sales staff disappear on a weekly basis for single bad decision.

        In fact one big firm I worked for ran a worst out of the door policy regularly.

        Years ago, I watched 3 different senior people get escorted out by security in the UK. That was when people still had the ability to run companies here.

  81. 352
    Laney says:

    Is this what I died for in Afghanistan?

  82. 357
    Phil Free says:

    Oh for fucks sake. Is this the extent of your ‘rumour, plots and conspiracy’? Civil Servants Get The Odd Day Off To Do Something That Isnt Their Day Job’ shock fucking horror.

    It took a forwarded email to ‘expose’ this shocking fucking tax wasting fucking horror? Do you not have google? Do you live in a fucking cave? Are you that removed from society, since most of the population are, according to some, civil servants, did you not already know this shocking fact from simply drinking in a pub, once, somewhere? The Civil Service has a *gasp* sports day??!! The Hoons.

    Christ, don’t know about you or fellow readers, but I nearly shat myself reading this ‘exclusive’.

    • 484

      The PA Newswire has picked it up, the Shadow Home Secretary has complained. You know, it is news.

      Shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said: “This is just not good enough.

      “Our immigration system has been shambolic for years, and far too few people refused the right to stay here have actually been deported.

      “If this is symbolic of what is happening in the Home Office, then it really does need major changes.”

      • 525
        Phil Free says:

        Err, not exactly ‘news’ though is is? It’s hand picked propaganda for the tory party. But it’s not, at all, news. If this is the best you have, Guido, i shall keep my 10 pounds PA and give it to Old Holborn….

        • 566
          The Sleeper says:

          Feel free!!!!

        • 587
          backwoodsman says:

          Actually its a damning indictment of 12 years of labour, utterly and actively failing to enforce border controls. And the department responsible thinking a jolly is in order at our expense, when they have ‘mislaid’ 400,000 illegals. So yes it is a big deal.

          • Phil Free says:

            What fucking border? We live on AN ISLAND.
            What the fuck are you talking about?

            I stand by my comments. This is not news. This has been known for some time, but like little puppies you lap it up because master says so. This is Guido playing to The Sun readership of the blog world for extra advert dough. Except he neglects to show us some tits.

  83. 361
    RestandBthankful says:

    Speaking of illegals is Baroness Scotland’s ex cleaner still in the country?

    • 386
      Barons, Baronesses, Knights etc. ZuNuLab tucks you up says:

      More to the point is Baroness Scotland still in the country and counting all the money she saved by paying cash!

      • 532
        chomping at the bit says:

        She has saved a few bob not having a cleaner… her house must be a tip by now.

    • 418
      It's a funny Old World ! says:

      Probably as last I read she was appealing under Blair’s Human Rights Act – i.e. a right to family life and UKBA cannot deport anyone whilst there is an appeal pending(or even afterwards) so no doubt she will be given retrospective “leave to remain” indefinitely in due course

  84. 362
    Martin Day says:

    Looks to me like Gordon Brown will be turning the lights out in Huddersfield this evening!

    http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/events/eventdetails.asp?evDtID=61459&evID=3659

    • 432
      Heidi High says:

      Early evening family entertainment that promises to be filled with fun, magic, music and laughter.

      Hard to imagine in Huddersfield.

  85. 383
    70 Million and buillding - Do the maths says:

    At least Blunkett had a reasonable excuse and could say, I can’t see any illegal immigrants!

    As for the shower you mention, pathetic!

  86. 387

    Only slightly off-topic, but I’m sure many of us in the private sector have had awaydays and “team-building” days – anyone think they work?

    I’ve had great times and won trophies (best go karting drive of my life that was), and shot managment in the head (“What, it was loaded? it’s only a bit of paint, don’t cry…”) but are these drunken bashes of any real value?

    Does it matter?

    • 575
      The Sleeper says:

      For me,it was those bloodsucking leeches known professionally as ‘Management Consultants’ that always suggested these events. It was the creeps upon whose blood they preyed i.e. The Chairman/CEO who said..”Oooh..good idea!” and everbody else immediately groaned.

      All that was achieved was a bit of fun for a day…often with old underlying resentments rearing their ugly heads..and new ones emerging.

      Gave the staff something to chat about for a a couple of days,then all back to where we were to begin with…SNAFU.

  87. 390
    Not long till labour gone says:

    Someone ought to ask the home office about how they fiddle the immigrant numbers at Lunar house, Croydon.

    Immigration figures are manipulated. For example a family of six coming to England and seeking asylum goes down on the records as one case, however if the same family are deported then they are entered on the records seperately making six cases.

    Why has no one mentioned this before?

    • 394
      Anonymous says:

      I think you’ll find thats ‘Lunatic’ house and yes you are correct otherwise.

    • 423
      Mark Twain says:

      Lies, damn lies and statistics……..

      True figures would only show up ZanEuLabour failure and shove up BNP support.

    • 428
      Anonymous says:

      …and then when the family of six has six kids a piece the only time the statistics crops up is when the Oiffice of National Statistics wakes up and say ooooo look how much more fertile the people of Britain are now!

      ONS – more ZaNuLiebor deceit!

      Migration Watch – nearer the truth!

  88. 392

    By the way, Guido, are you doing a live blog for Question Time tonight?

    • 406
      Thats News says:

      I haven’t seen it in ages. Might watch tonight, though, or use the watch again service.

      I wonder if the usual supsects will try to force the broadcast off air? They like democracy so much that they had to destroy it in order to save it…

      • 426

        Guardian has a report on the UAF “democrats” outside TV Centre “Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put Nick Griffin on the top, put the Nazis in the middle, and burn the fucking lot”

        But remember children, the UAF are the good guys. Apparantly.

        • 441
          tat says:

          yes, that is right frank, the anti fascists are the good guys.
          as were the anti fascists who protected Jewish people in the east end of London from the fascists.
          they were the good guys too.
          you do agree, don’t you frank?

          • to be honest tat, no, I don’t agree. I don’t think anyone whose response to a speech or march is to demand gagging or a violent response is a good guy. Barricading streets so that people you don’t like can’t walk along it seems the act of thugs whether it’s in Belfast or Whitechapel. Don’t you agree?

          • Master Baiter says:

            urgh!

            A stench of fascist sympathisers.

            Some blogs do ‘em!

          • Thats News says:

            Unless, of course, they start acting like facists, then it is hard to tell the difference.

          • tat says:

            it depends on who is barricading who really.
            the union of anti fascists are barricading white supremacists and so the UAF are clearly the good guys,
            fucking hell frank, you will be telling us the KKK only set fire to crucifixes so they can toast marshmallows next.
            your position is crumbling beneath your feet frank.
            careful, you will fall and break your neck if you are not more careful.

          • it depends on who is barricading who really.

            It does?

            I disagree. Anyone who says, “I’m not going to argue with you, or discuss this with you, I’ll simply use force to block you, stop you, silence you” is *not* the feckin’ good guy in my book.

            *Some* might get more sympathy from me than others, but tactics like that – used by the UAF and others – and not what I would call liberal measures. It’s hard not to see them as simple mirror images of the national socialists they claim to hate.

          • tat says:

            the KKK in the UK?
            fuck off frank.
            we defeated hitler’s fascism and you appear to be content to let fascists run riot in London.
            no fucking chance frank.
            you have let yourself down fisher: it is one thing to argue in favour of freedom of speech and movement and it is quite another to defend white supremacists as you have done today on this thread.
            you should be ashamed of yourself.

          • you should be ashamed of yourself.

            And yet, I’m not. Gosh.

            I’ll be honest – I see more fascism coming from Brown than the bernerper. Nick Griffin has no blood on his hands, and at least he will risk going on QT. I don’t recall the last time I saw brown asnwering straight questions.

            I’m not defending the BNP here btw, I’m suggesting the UAF are twats. There’s a pretty significant difference there, if you care to think about it.

          • anon sick of it all says:

            I’ve been a UAF activist, It’s clear to see you have not been in recent times.

            Your inevitable denial will just be like Mr Rosen who lives in his ivory tower with his hands in his ears and closing his eyes so he is oblivious to the people who turn up to the demo’s shouting kill the jews and zionists.

            He ignores UAF people calling for jewish deaths which would obviously include him so he can continue to play general with his little army.

            It will all end in tears.

          • Stalin says:

            The UAF fascists appear to be the only ones running riot.

      • 442
        We support democracy but not the right of free speech if we dis-agree with you says:

        I noticed on a clip on BBC News that the “impartial” BBC apparently allows the Anti-Fascist Campaigners to tie banners to their doorways and erect barricades in front of Television Centre and to hand leaflets to people going in and out. Can’t remember them actually allowing anyone else to do this ? Seems that the BBC is starting to get a little edgy about their invite to Griffin ?

    • 449
      Regnum Defende says:

      Good to see at least two people, who hold extreme views on the panel and in whom the security services have an interest, the old commie Straw and the new nazi Griffin.

  89. 393
    UK Border Agency - More ZaNuLab Lies, mirrors, fog and deceit says:

    UK Border agency, the only one in Europe where they appear to have illegals working behind the aiport desks to ensure a very nice queue for returning Brits whilst waving plane loads from Africa straight on by.

    • 403
      Inspector Cyril Blake says:

      yes I noticed that too. The Mrs and I, being middle-aged, caucasian and quite obviously very British, were made to stand and wait until some f*cking immigration monkey who could barely speak English interrogated us, whilst his brothers from the dark continent came strolling through with a smile and a nod. I couldn’t believe my eyes, but ‘er indoors wouldn’t let me sound off about.

      I had to laugh though, as his name was Kabongo, which I thought was a tropical fruit drink :) and yes it did turn out that he was from the Congo. You couldn’t make it up, lads, you really couldn’t.

    • 429
      You are now entering the United Kingdom - please have your passports ready says:

      Don’t you love it when you land at Heathrow and approach That sign that says UK Border and a person who can barely speak english asks you to show your passport, the CCTV cameras follow your every move, whilst flak-jacketed police armed with Heckler & Koch Machine Guns stare menacingly at you. It’s then you know that you’re back “home” in ” Brown’s Stalinist Britain”

      • 455
        John Smith says:

        It’s why I do not ago abroad – besides one day they might not let me back in !!!

      • 476
        udderly 'orrible says:

        …not forgetting the statutory warning that “if you as much as raise a whisper of protest to one of our staff you will be flailed and flogged.”

        “We have the right to work in safety and not be threatened by members of the public”
        - the ironic mantra of the UK Civil Service, precisely because they are neither civil nor have any concept of service.

        • 667
          Bob the Bilderberger says:

          When I flew to the Czech Republic last year the baggage check-in people and security staff at Heathrow were all women in long black dresses and hijabs, and men in long white dresses with islamist beards and mecca caps. It was like we’d entered an ironic parallel universe!

    • 672
      Anonymous says:

      I fly constantly and my home airport is BRS (Bristol). I concur with the above but only when I arrive back in my own country do I get grief. Maybe this is good however got got stopped twice in a row in the same week while other obvious possible non brits passed by unchallenged. Pilled aside by by plod AFTER BORDER CONTROL. The second time I just told them to either arrest me or just fuck right off but make the fuck sure you have a dam good lawyer. I was then just waved on. FACT!!

      I am White, a Brit speak in bristolian accent (no ones perfect) and born within the sound of engines from that airport and a fucks site older than any of the twats that stopped me. Been flying out of that airport for 30 years and before the fucking scanners were even there or fucking invesnted. I am a full and top member of a number of frequent flier club for as long as I can remember and a full member of that airport itself at the time.

      Bastards all of them and miss the obvious because they are all total fucking useless dickheads.

      In transit now and agin back to BRS no doubt for more of this shit

      BRAIN DEAD FUCKTARDS AND GATE NAZIS

  90. 405
  91. 425
    Knacker of the Yard says:

    Move along please, nothing to see here

  92. 440
    Umemployed but hopefull says:

    FAO Home Office Staff in London & South East (other CSSC members can attend as guests on invitation)

    I will be organising Chutney Rumble @ The Lion’s Enclosure at West Midlands Safari Park on Thursday 26th November 2009. RSVP

  93. 443
    The Star says:

    Illegal Immigrants Pay to Play Mixed Tug of War with Home Office Staff

  94. 444

    “Mr. Maude: To ask the Minister for the Cabinet Office when she last met Mr. Damian McBride in the course of her official duties.”

    As any good lawyer knows, you don’t ask a question if you don’t know the answer:

    “Tessa Jowell: I have not met Damian McBride in the course of my ministerial duties since his resignation on 11 April 2009.”

    Hasn’t met him in the course of ministerial duties… what about outside her ministerial duties?

    http://www.shanegreer.com/2009/10/22/damian-mcbride-in-the-course-of-ministerial-duties/

    Guido is going to catch him at it again. He knows bonkers Brown phones Damo McB for a long talk about how terrible his day has been before going upstairs for a cry.

    McBride.
    R.I.P.
    Gone, but still so rotten.

    • 460
      Father McBride says:

      It’s true – really – it’s so true – believe me – it’s true !!

      So help me God !!

  95. 447
    Biggles says:

    Hold the front pages Guido, I’ve heard that the British Army allows its personnel to play rugby on work time and they don’t even have to take leave for it! How dare they let their men swan around a rugby pitch all day when they could be in Afghanistan shooting people!

    Dry your eyes, team sports are an excellent method of maintaining morale and improving teamwork and the Civil Service has clearly defined rules on how sport should be consucted during work time, just as the military does – this is neither novel nor outrageous.

    • 463
      Mr & Mrs Presscoot MP says:

      It’s true – really – it’s so true – believe me – it’s true !!

      So help me God !!

    • 467
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Not quuite the same. The Forces, when they are not fighting, have a job keeping the troops occupied. Of course they train, break, mend and clean things, but this cannot be a full time job, because of the expenses of operating equipment apart from anything else; Eurofighter for example.

      Also, the Forces expect members to lay down their lives for their comrades in combat, and hence anything that constitutes to morale and team building is rightly valued.

      I don’t see where the Border Agency parallels this in any way at all, any more than a Council Refuse Collection Department or a Rates Office would.

    • 475
      Sir William Waad says:

      Soldiers have to train hard to stay fit. Rugby is training. Civil servants do not need to play rugby. If they went on a training course nobody could object.

      • 506
        EC1 PhD says:

        Notice: UKBA Staff Levels 6-10 incl
        Your away day to Legoland has been arranged for 26 November. Programme as follows:

        09:30 Coaches departs Victoria Street
        11:00 Coaches arrive Legoland
        11:15 to 11:30 Organised into teams by Section Heads
        11:30 to 12:00 Ice breaker exercise
        12:00 to 13:00 Motivational talk and Update from Department Head
        13:00 to 14:30 Lunch
        14:30 to 15:00 Introduction to new departmental Knowledge Management Practices, including Data Security
        15:00 to 16:00 Free to attend Legoland
        16:00 to 16:30 Afternoon Tea
        16:30 Coaches depart for Victoria Street
        18:00 Coaches arrive Victoria Street

        We appreciate that it will be a long day but hope that the sense of cohesion and team building that will result will prove helpful in the face of the uncertainty that all of us face in the coming months.

    • 582
      The Sleeper says:

      “Dry your eyes, team sports are an excellent method of maintaining morale and improving teamwork”

      Jeez..talk about stuck in the 1980′s…or have you just had a visit from your Management Consultants?

  96. 452
    Jimmy says:

    I blame the culture. I know of a blogger who recently hired an ex-civil servant. He went on holiday almost immediately. The financial report he was supposed to complete still isn’t done and to make matters worse he went on tv to represent the blog and made a complete tit of himself. If that weren’t enough he went to a meeting with the solicitors on Tuesday and still hasn’t reported back.

    You just can’t get the staff.

    • 466
      G F says:

      It’s true – really – it’s so true – believe me – it’s true !!

      So help me God !!

    • 487
      EC1 PhD says:

      I worked with civil servants for a couple of years. They spent more energy finding ways to make sure something did not get done – MOD, anyone? To top it all, they revelled in their brainwashed state of nothingness and actually believed that they were contributing more than just hydrogen sulphide and methane to society.

    • 490
      EC1 PhD says:

      And the rules on replying to mail was within 10 working days and you must pick up the phone within 10 rings. Wankers.

    • 583
      Petulants, the Fifth Horseman says:

      Perhaps you’re just not in the loop Jim.

  97. 471
    Boyzilian says:

    OT, I know, but breaking news, Mandlebum’s head of yet another ministry:

    36 titles and counting.

    http://www.ministryofwaxing.com/

  98. 477
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Yes but at least our wonderful Police Farce are always out there protecting us and looking after us the voters.

    Girl, 10, sprayed with CS gas after police storm teenager’s birthday party

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222154/Riot-police-spray-CS-gas-eyes-girl-10-raiding-brothers-birthday-party.html

    Buch of twats! Nu Labour stazi.

    Peter Mandleson reported beyond anger about PO. I wonder if his view would be same in opposition? No of course not. Never backed a union but now I find myself in the bizare situation of doing so.

    Sorry about combined topics on posting but again in transit and difficult places with limited connections so just grab my fav’s and then loose links.

    • 482
      Sir William Waad says:

      Less junk mail. Wheeee!

    • 574
      Anonymous says:

      “To make matters worse, when Mr Symonds appeared in court a few days later to face his charge, the case was thrown out of court due to lack of evidence.”

      Seems the police are just out of control. How can you go, in heavy handed, for a bail condition on a crime that has no evidence?

  99. 478
    Anonymous says:

    TM’s finest ever post over on ConsHome. Eton Dave really doesn’t want the proles getting involved with candidate selection.
    PS Nice picture of Hillary (motormouth) Clinton.

  100. 483
    EC1 PhD says:

    I can’t see this event taking place as they’ll have some squalid media-opportunist there to take photos of how our tax take is spent. Snap away.

  101. 486
    I Predict A Riot! says:

    Question Time tonight – possible scenario’s

    1.) Just before the programme is due to go out live;

    “I am afraid we cannot go to Question Time at this moment due to “technical problems” – we shall now be showing a repeat of Fawlty Towers – the episode where Basil insults the Germans.”

    2.)Programme starts and the other panelists stand up and walk out,giving the one eyed Gorgon a full 45 mins propoganda all to himself.

    3.)First question is asked by a member of the audience who is then assaulted by other audience members and a full scale battle starts in which David Dimbleby head butts Jack “Accountancy is not my strong point” Straw snd then turns to the camera saying;

    “I always wanted to do that”.

    The programme is then switched to another episode of Fawlty Towers – this time the one where the Psychiatrists stay at the hotel,prior to visiting Brown in Downing St.

    I do predict it will not last the full time on air.

    • 492

      Likeliest result is that it’ll be a shoutfest I think – UAF in the audience simply drowning Griffin out.

      • 504
        tat says:

        fascist white supremacists will not be tolerated frank.
        we did not tolerate hitler and we will not tolerate griffin and they are cut from the same fascist cloth.
        stop defending white supremacists frank.
        it is unacceptable behaviour and it will be challenged.
        democracy is a precious thing that needs to be defended. having the illegal bn p party of white supremacists on television or radio is not acceptable as it is a danger to our democracy and social cohesion.
        end of story.

        • 519

          cobblers. Every other european country manages to handle a mildly nationalistic fringe party – many in coalition government. None have seen democratic collapse in consequence; what is so different here? The berneps are entirely run of the mill. Average.

          What *is* damaging to democracy is the ruling elite’s plan to add ten million people to this country in coming years without the consent of the british people, if the ONS can be believed and I reckon they can – we don’t get asked, we don’t get a choice, and suggestion that mass immigration might not have benefits is met with squeals of “racist!”

          We fought hitler because he posed a threat to us – the bernerpee pose no existential threat to this country. They’re just another opportunist political party. The only difference to their socialist chums in Labour is that so far they haven’t killed anyone.

          • nikola tesla says:

            Yes you ‘re right on this one Frank. Tat doesnt see the big picture. Its either freedom of speech or its state control. Tat wants that control, he just doesnt like the fact that currently he doesnt have it.

          • tat says:

            a bn p member was found in possession of the largest haul of explosives ever found on the British mainland.
            his intention was to set off the explosives in order to start a race war.
            therefore the bn p white supremacists pose as much of a threat to the safety of British civilians as alqaeda.
            the bn p and alqaeda are both extremist anti democratic lunatics.
            and I am surprised that you are defending them frank.
            you’re an idiot.

        • 520
          Anonymous says:

          It’s people like you tat and your ‘rote front’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotfrontk%C3%A4mpferbund ideas and support for the UAF that gets people like Hitler into power!

          • Welcome to the future says:

            I would rather not be airbrushed out of history so will oppose unlimited immigration and to pull of the facist EU before it starts a world war or before Turkey is included as a member.

        • 529
          .243 Win says:

          Here’s your problem tat : The Bee ‘n’ Pee ‘aint “illegal, end of – despite what the Hoon Hain wants to rant about.

          Don’t get me wrong, their “message” is as revolting as their frontman – but that doesn’t make fascist tactics as employed by the UAF any more acceptable than those employed by the unmentionables.

          Or are you suggesting that free speech should be limited to your view of what’s acceptable free speech. Not exactly a libertarian argument, is it ?

          For me, get these thugs out in front of the public and carefully – and rationally – demolish their ethos. Then go on to turn the guns on the mainstream/centrist pols as to why they’ve become so disconnected from over 1 million voters as to make the b+p seem like a valid voice.

          Censorship and the statist premise that extreme elements in any society can be prevented by suppression – now there’s a real danger to democracy.

        • 539
          Alcibiades says:

          You mean the democracy we have at present, based on three precepts:
          a) exclude the electorate from any meaningful involvement in the decision-making process
          b)retain power for as long as possible
          c) plunder the public purse for the benefit of oneself and ones relatives

        • 565
          Anonymous says:

          What you really mean is that Socialists will not be tolerated – both parties you mention were Socialists, not fascists.
          I think you should write this out 100 times during the next wet break.

        • 569
          Anonymous says:

          Not wanting to be ethnically replaced in the land of your ancestors is not ‘supremacist’. Are the Tibetans ‘supremacists’ for not wanting to be ethnically replaced by the Han Chinese?

          To people like TaT, the idea that white people are actually the native population somewhere is odious.

          • Alles Klar says:

            The clue is in the first letter T, he used to post as ‘Thick as Thieves’ but got fed up with always being labeled simply ‘thick’

          • tat says:

            the holocaust denier nick griffin got a good fucking hiding on question time last night.
            excellent.
            unite against fascism: all are welcome.

    • 493
      South of the M4 says:

      In Wales we get it half an hour later. Best I not listen to the news then else it will spoil the fun.

      • 498
        A welcome in the valley's says:

        Ah,I always thought the Welsh were a little slow but this is ridiculous!

      • 516
        streamfisher says:

        Is that to give them enough time to subtitle it in Welsh, whats Yakky dar for Nazi! we will not tolerate Nazis! not in England’s green and pleasant land says Jack Straw (fucking Nazi yourself shouts out 80 year old heckler in audience).

        • 561
          South of the M4 says:

          anwybodus gwirlionym. Sorry, no direct translation for ‘Nazi’. Ignorant idiots will do.

    • 501
      Screw them says:

      Is it going to be live ?,the Gulf Times says it’s being broadcast from a some hideout.

    • 551
      P1 says:

      Its pre-recorded, so they can spin it out to fill the programme slot if needs be.

  102. 494
    Alan Johnson says:

    Isn’t there something rather splendid about our desire to be good at sport? Maybe this game is going to be in the Olympics? Maybe that is why it’s important the Home Office carry on regardless. A secret operation perhaps, except, now it’s in the public domain?????

  103. 507
    • 526
      Doc Trough says:

      I’d prefer it if God did Blair. A thunderbolt and a deep “Hooooooooooon!” from on high would be most acceptable. Humanity would do well to launch the resultant ash into space, just to be sure like. Perhaps Chezza would condescend to don Mantilla and veil and cling theatrically to the pod on ejection?

    • 611
      Sir William Waad says:

      Blair just demonstrates that the most important thing in life is sincerity. Once you can fake sincerity you’ve got it made.

  104. 508
    Cream Puff says:

    Sack the fucker, in fact dont give him any notice, just call security and chuck the good for nothing sod out into the street
    The Civil Service are there to work, we pay for them, so they should work their socks off! I dont mind them having ‘bonding’ sessions BUT only in their own time, ie when were not paying them!
    This is a sign of very weak management from the Minister of State down, by the way who is the Minister of State? – Phil Woolyarse, ah that explains it

    • 635
      retired immigration officer = final salary pensioner says:

      The trouble is Creamer all the bosses come from private industry where they got the sack – if they left poor industrious, well intentioned civil servants to get on with it the system would work – right!

  105. 522
    Eileen Critchley says:

    If you’re looking for someone to blame for the rise of the BNP look no further than the Left!

    The Left’s mismanagement of immigration handed the BNP a million votes.

    Now of course any fan of facts knows that immigration is a sideshow statistically speaking, but it was a Labour government and, lest we forget the magnificently efficient and optimised Civil Service, who gifted Nick Griffin his place on Question Time.

    I am proud to say that I have never and will never vote for the BNP.

    Sadly there are a million people who will never be able to say the same – it’s a bit like having a tattoo isn’t it!

  106. 527
    Welcome to the future says:

    Nelsons Column is currently a pillar with an 18ft statue of Admiral Horatio Nelson situated at the top, resting above bronze acanthus leaves.

    Under the Shari’ah, the construction and elevation of statues or idols is prohibited, and consequently, the statue of Admiral Horatio Nelson would be removed and demolished without hesitation (click on picture to enlarge).

    Indeed, there is none truly worthy of worship except Allah (SWT) and thus the veneration of any man or woman is unacceptable, let alone a man such as Horatio Nelson who was a notorious fornicator, as his illicit relationships with married women such as Emma, Lady Hamilton demonstrate.

    Furthermore, due to the fact that the actual column is based on the architecture of the Temple of Mars Ultor, in Rome, the engravings on the column will have to be altered in favour of Islamic indentations, possibly floral designs.

    Possible Replacement for Nelson Statue: Islamic Clock

    On completion of the demolition of Nelson’s statue and the alteration of its Corinthian engravings, we would envisage seating an exquisitely constructed Islamic clock with the black flag of Islam flying high over it (refer to picture); this clock could also be fitted with an electronic device that would sound the Islamic call to prayer 5 times a day; moreover, because the statue of Horatio Nelson is coincidentally positioned facing due south, on its replacement with an Islamic orientated clock, the front of the clock could duly be rotated 45 degrees (anti-clockwise) so as to indicate the direction of the qibla i.e. direction of the Kaabah in Makkah, thereby making it easier for Muslims in the locality to know which way to pray.

    • 540
      Bardirect says:

      Saw this posted yesterday at Oldholborn when it was Trafalgar Day. Thought it was a joke.

      Good to see that Choudary has got himself a full time job as Judge of the Sharia Court and lecturer at the Sharia university. Dont expect he’s still claiming benefits.

    • 542
      Myopia - far better that ZaNuLiebor's utopia says:

      I really do not want an Islamic cock in Trafalgar Square

      • 555
        Crikey it's QT .......... says:

        The B & P do is kicking off on BBC News Channel – looks like we could have sold more tickets than last night’s Chelsea match

        THe BBC can’t say if the attendees are inside or what !

        Ah – those were the days – even Mr Hain’s reliving his youth

        Ann Cryer would not sit on panel because her grandchildren are half Indian!

        What?

        Playing into Grffin’s hands I reckon

        Beats PMQs

        • 560
          Crikey it's QT .......... says:

          All BBC staff have been instructed to wear their BBC passes …..

          Uniformed policemen must wear their helmet …..

          • Nigel's Mum .......... says:

            Stop Pushing Nigel

            Methinks a few farmers might be able to breeze in

          • Beryl .. says:

            Bring out the water hoses – that’ll do

            Helicopter with CS gas

            End of the world nigh

            Without doubt

            Traffic stationary

            Police in control

            Missed me bus

            No violence – protestors come in front door

            10 teenage girls dragged on their arses screaming

        • 572

          Oh and the Socialist Workers are playing to preconceptions superbly – the *very* well spoken Lukas Kudic having been ejected from TV Centre tells the Guardian and others that “We were in reception next to Piers Morgan. The police got violent with one person. They grabbed my arms and put them behind my back.”

          That’ll be Lukas Kudic-Gloster, of the SWSS, Kings, and formerly St Pauls – a jolly nice school that’s just a little pricier than Eton I believe? Rah rah rah, we’re going to smash the oiks. Rah rah rah….

          Fair’s fair though, it’s bloody expensive being a socialist these days – you need Daddy’s dosh.

        • 576
          Lizzie says:

          There are a lot of people who need to get a life! if all you have to look forward too is Nick Griffin on TV.

      • 556
        IRB says:

        Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it, deary.

    • 652
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Postmen on strike; fascists in the BBC; rioters outside; loud explosions heard throughout the capital (Bonfire Night approaches)…

      this has all the makings of a state of emergency. Lord High Mandleson cancels Question Time and will make an announcement to the Nation.

  107. 533
    retired Immigration Officer = final salary pensioner says:

    Thank fuck I am out of it…

  108. 546
    Boot Jackoff Smith out ! says:

    Labour with its fucking clueless immigration policies has created the BNP.

    More people will hear the BNP & will unfortunately sympathise with “some” of the points they make hence increasing their support further.

    The fucking useless Labour puppets like Straw arent listened too anyway.

    Another bit of their mess we will have to live with.

  109. 553
    Fast on the draw says:

    There’s a really good video on U Tube showing a marching group of anti-fascists in a German town.They then turn down the street past this doorway (probably the local NF office/lair) in which stand 4 or 5 thugs who watch the group as they get nearer.

    There are German policemen in green fatigues escorting the demo.

    Then one of the thugs takes exception to what one of the protesters says and approaches him,the other thugs reach into the doorway and produce aluminium baseball bats and start to raise them

    Within milliseconds,the 3 or 4 policemen have their handguns pointed at the thugs who suddenly decide they are not quite as brave as they thought they might be – one of them is dragged off and dealt with further down the street.

    Great to watch the police reaction.

  110. 567
    A Friend says:

    It all went wrong when instead of recruiting redbrick university graduates who couldn’t quite get into the Security Service or SIS, they went for what was called within the I.S. (as it was then) the Turbans and Tampax recruitment drive.

    Looks great in the publicity photos but few of the thick and multi-hued bastards can do a cryptic crossword (or indeed interview the punters in any depth).

  111. 573
    matthew hopkins says:

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23755260-armed-met-checkpoints-to-tackle-turk-turf-war.do

    lets all celebrate the marvellous shithole tat londonistan has become!

  112. 577
    Brown shite says:

    Instead of paying these filthy public sector paracites massive pensions when they retire at 48, why not burn them?

    It could be a family day out at weekends, making bonfires and wickermen and such to burn these criminal scum.

  113. 578
    Lizzie says:

    I reaaly cannot understand why people would be excited by Nick Griffin, extremist right wing leader on a Beeb chat show.

  114. 580
    banana republic watcher says:

    HEY Fawkes
    you couldnt be arsked to do PMQ this week, how about a fight night special on QT tonight then

    • 594
      Anti-Fascist Blackshirted Green says:

      It’s already kicked off. Now we know the BBC hyped it up,probably to incite this riot.What is their purpose?

  115. 585

    Guardian report:

    “4.58pm:

    The BBC say it was actually around 25 protestors who broke into the building.

    The news channel is carrying some dramatic pictures of the protestors, who appear to have acquired flares.

    I *told* you it was just like the seventies… Winter of discontent, crippling debt, flares….

  116. 608
    Dack Blog says:

    Seems the protesters never considered the possibility that there may be more than one entrance to the BBC.

    • 617

      I bet Daddy is furious – he spent a small fortune sending little Lukas Kudic-Gloster to St Pauls and the bugger and his SWP buddies can’t grasp the concept of a back door?

      • 619

        wtf….

        this modding script utterly baffles me

        have you got it set on stun Guido?

      • 646
        .243 Win says:

        Typical misdirected effort – they’re not really interested in Griffin, just raising their own media profiles.

        BTW : On one of your earlier post Frank, if “it’s bloody expensive being a socialist these days – you need Daddy’s dosh.” – chances are that Daddy’s using someone else’s dosh….

  117. 616
    isobel pycroft says:

    It’s always the left who start the violence.

  118. 620
    BBC says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    THREE STRIKES & BROWN’s OUT

  119. 634
    ToryBanter says:

    ‘with best practice in the private sector’ As a ringer for a some private and public sectors rugby teams I can tell you they all play out of hours and do not get paid to be there.

    • 650

      BBC 5 live – why are you protesting against the BNP

      Jessica Mills – Coz its, like, you know, erm , like wrong. Its just, erm, really wrong, because, its erm, like, so wrong. They Shouldn’t be allowed, to like, erm , like , be allowed , like, you know, to express themselves, like, you know, like we are.

      I doubt anyone would want to express themselves like that.

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  121. 654
    Sir William Waad says:

    “I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.” – Nick Griffin

    • 662
      ANon says:

      Next he’ll start claiming that WW2II wasn’t the first time that it was claimed that 6 million were disposed of, or that the 6 million figure actually comes from the Talmud, which says that the Messiah will not come until 6 million are slaughtered, or that they keep changing the plaques at Auschwitz from 4 million killed there to 1.5 million or some other the rubbish and babbling that goes on at rense.com.

  122. 665
    Comrade Pat says:

    Did you enjoy our day off Jess? I did.

  123. 666
    Porky Pies MP says:

    It could have been worse. The lazy bastards might have been playing WITH illegal immigrants.

  124. 670
    Rev. Williams says:

    Dave Cameron is a millionaire 30 times over George Osborne is a millionaire 4 times over. They have taken 300,000 pounds from the tax payer in mortgage payments for a second home,I am poor,they are rich . They are immoral. All the fuss about a game of rugby is small beer.

  125. 671
    leigh says:

    I think that’s a well good idea. Ashley sounds like such a nice guy. Givin the staff a break, and havin fun. That’s what work is all about

  126. 674
    SO17 says:

    We all came from Africa apart from the Irish,Jews,red indians,aborigines,Incas in fact every fucker from around the world except the English who have always been a mongrel people with no culture or identity.
    My great great great grandad Winston Boatang who used to work down the pit for fuckall and watch half his kids die of TB in a shithole tenement would turn in his grave.

  127. 678
    Al says:

    I can’t believe you haven’t picked up on the IMMENSE story as revealed by Andrew Neather’s article ‘Don’t listen to the whingers – London needs immigrants’ published in the Evening Standard on Friday.

    I was speechless… and f*cking furious. How dare they?




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