Sunday Sleaze
You have to admire the audacity of these troughers, or is just desperation? The Sunday Herald reveals that
“a handful of Labour MPs are trying to block the police investigation into the possible criminal abuse of Commons expenses, It is understood the group has warned the Metropolitian Police that probes into expenses may breach “parliamentary privilege”, the ancient right that protects proceedings in Parliament, which notably allows freedom of speech in the Commons chamber. A senior Labour source confirmed some MPs have taken legal advice on whether parliamentary privilege extends to expenses, potentially putting them off-limits to the police.”
They are trying to claim that an MP committing fraud is immune from prosecution due to parliamentary privilege. Ridiculous.
Guido’s guess is that the Tory MP (and whip) John Baron’s expenses might benefit from further investigation. His mortgage seems to have gone up as interest rates have gone down. His local paper the Echo reports that a local Tory councillor has resigned in disgust. His home is 35 miles from Westminster.
The LibDems like to posture as morally superior to their parliamentary colleagues on matters of probity. This may be true in the Commons, however in the Lords their peers trough like the best of them. Lord Rennard, the former CEO of the party, is already under investigation for claiming overnight allowances for being away from home, when to all intents and purposes his main home is minutes away from Westminster over the Thames in Vauxhall. Now it transpires that the frontbench health spokeswoman Baroness Barker followed her leader. Just like Rennard she has been living and working in London and claiming the away from home overnight allowance to the tune of £70,000 in expenses from the House of Lords. She is refusing to say where her main residence was when she made the claims. The Sunday Times suggests she has always lived in Merton, not Sussex as she indicated to them. She seems strangely unable to remember her home address…
Elsewhere in somewhat unsurprising news documents reveal Jack Straw tried to conceal expense revelations. Wonder why?
In the Mail the neighbours of Jacqui Smith’s sister feel vindicated that despite her sister’s smears against them they were proved to be telling the truth. A survey of Jacqui Smith’s Redditch constitutents for the Mail reveals that the majority want her to pay back the money, resign and be prosecuted:
Chris Galley of the Sunlight Centre tells the Express he will see Jacqui in Court. You can donate towards making that happen here.
UPDATE : Maybe St Frank ain’t so saintly after all. Trouser press, flat-screen TVs, linen etc. and £1,000 a month in unreceipted expenses. Hmmm…
The major one is why isn’t Brown and co paying interest on their ‘interest free loan’ of money they have had out our expense. We have lost out, and that’s against the rules.
If they don’t pay the interest, then its a valuable perk. It can’t be an expense, otherwise they wouldn’t have to pay it back. If its not an expense, it doesn’t fall under the little arrangement MPs have for their expenses. It has to be taxed.
That’s another 3 grand Brown.
Nick
I’m sorry but i fail to see the problem with bashing Labour
Ignore him, he’s the local nutter, soon to be locked up for good.
Listen to me:
Can I get a show of hands of those delighted that Mrs. Dale has once again failed miserably?!?!?!
What a FUCKING RETARD.
Ends.
Iain can still suck MP’s dicks from outside Parliament, right?
So your saying that the logical consequence of being a criminally insane nutter is not to be locked up?
I rest my case.
ALL the troughers
http://www.davidforward.co.uk/mpsexpenses.php
Call crimestoppers 0800 555 111 and report them
I am having difficulty following this thread. This is probably due to me (1) not having my nose deep in Little Georgies stache or (2) missing troughing 101 when at Eton or (3) that unlike the contributors I am not an alien.
Iain Dale cries “homophobes” at not being elected as a Tory MP
“Why don’t they love me? Sob! Bastards! Stephen fucking Gately gets a State funeral”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2009/oct/17/my-week-iain-dale?showallcomments=true&commentpage=1&commentposted=1
Does anyone have any ideas what claims Vera Baird might be hiding. We know about the xmas decs and the front porch but she is refusing to show the public her letter. Me thinks she has something else to hide!
Sleaze busting
http://www.ukip.tv/?p=762
That is sooo cool. More of that please
On the button
Prosecute ‘em now Mr Knacker. Morley has to be the first – Smudger Smith can’t be far behind.
Too right! Poor child should be able to rest in peace.
She’s like a money making machine now. How many dirty pounds have been made by her sad story?
None by the child. The parents however….
The whole thing should be investigated asap Rick. Why no-one gives a damn in authorty is beyond me.
Frankly, even if the parents were implicated, which I don’t believe for one moment, your relentless stalking and persecution of them would be punishment enough.
Being clients of that fine firm Carter Ruck might raise a few questions…
Does the word “Injunction” mean anything to anyone?
ACPO is NOT a relevant authority. It has no official standing. I know it seems to have power but it is only exactly what it states – an association of certain police ranks.
These people should not be allowed to make unilateral statements. They should follow the laws as set out by legislation.
Precisely. I am fed up hearing about which laws ACPO will and will not enforce. This body has absolutely no legal standing whatsoever but seems to be in a position of immense power – and with none of it being accountable. The media treats its utterance with something akin to reverance.
Elected Chief Constables is definitely the only way now.
The USA has a law called the Racketeering Inspired Corrupt Organizations Act. Will Camo release the minutes of meetings between ACPO and the Ho’e Office?
cough. common purpose does well out of ‘em
ACPO is a private company making a very nice profit thanks you …..
This is from the Independant back in Feb this year….
The private organisation representing Britain’s top police officers faced demands last night for reform – or even disbanding – over allegations that it was being run as a business with a multi-million-pound budget relying heavily on public funds.
Civil liberties campaigners and opposition politicians called for the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) to be “stopped in its tracks” amid growing concerns over its burgeoning powers.
http://TwitPWR.com/DisbandACPO/
Yes, ACPO, they they’re recommending more driver training for motoring offences rather than fines, nothing to do with the fact that they have set up a driver training company, oh no.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1151906/Now-Police-Chiefs-PLC-cashes-speeding-drivers.html
Not content with just getting the private motorist, they’re now going to hassle your employer (if you’re stopped during company time) and use the HSE route to hammer them into coughing up for employee driving training. So if you get stopped for speeding, tell them your self employed otherwise plod will be pissing off your boss by writing nasty letters to him.
http://www.rospa.org.uk/drivertraining/news/managing_risk.htm
ACPO? Money Making Troughers?
This is a total bloody disgrace. The whole country is corrupt AND getting worse. Did Bruin know about this?
And they have an absolute monopoly on the Vital Police Reports for all Brits contemplating Emmigration.
They charge handsomely for these reports which are accumulated, stored, archived, maintained by guess who?
Yes, its us the taxpayer. So near enough total profit, apart from a bit of mail and admin.
Great scheme! Pity it wasn’t put out to tender.
RoSPA – Save lives & reduce injury – and make shedloads of money via ACPO, a private, unaccountable company. Tossers!
Yes, *I’ve* already had to pay *a lot* of interest on my section 419. That’s in addition to paying court fees as part of the package to ‘encourage’ me to pay it back sooner.
I can’t understand how Brown can get away with charging for his constituency home when the benevolent State gives him No. 10 *and* Chequers for his own personal use.
Staggering.
All the crooks protect each other?
As one who has always been open about my modest expenses I am dazed to be linked to MPs who abused them. It’s like driving at 25mph through a 30mph zone and being fined five years later because it has been cut retrospectively to 20mph. Legg is wrong.’
Mr Field makes a good point.
No he doesn’t make a good point. It is like insurance claims: You should not make a profit on an insurance claim. So if you happen to find that lost jewelery five years later in a knicker drawer what should you morally and legally do about it?
Nice try, Frank, but the rule that you should not exploit your expenses facility has not been introduced retrospectively.
The justice of a roulette wheel
And… we’re not talking about speeding here, we’re talking about possible fraud. Not quite the same thing, is it?
No Frank you just dont get it do you. Thats the Narrative which the MP’s would Like to be true but it isnt. The fact is to use your analogy is that many MPs have been driving the wrong way up one way streets for years running red lights etc etc and then complain that when doing so they kept to the speed limit.
Frank Field always charged much less against expenses that he was entitled to.
Now Mr Legg-Over is apparently targeting everyone, including Frank Field? I am afraid my faith in Legg is ebbing away.
“expenses wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred … for the purpose of performing their parliamentary duties”
This requirement has not been retrospectively changed. The claims that we are complaining about were FRAUDULENT the moment that they were claimed. The wood is deliberately being obscured by the trees.
He who is seen to have committed fraud must be prosecuted. On conviction (alas not by a jury) any mitigating factors such as genuine remorse, offers to repay, etc., should be considered before sentence is passed. A plea of “parliamentary privilege” should be treated as an indication of mental inability to plead and lead to a padded cell, rather than one with iron bars.
This mess cannot be sorted out by wheeling and dealing. Only prosecution, and prosecution alone, will clear the decks.
I don’t see how ANY gardening expenses can be “expenses wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred … for the purpose of performing their parliamentary duties”.
Is there a law against MPs living in flats without gardens?
I agree but the rules so far have allowed upkeep of the second home to be claimed for and gardening is part of the upkeep.
Its very simple. For Little Georgie to function requires dope. Growing dope needs gardening. Ergo, Little Georgie can claim for gardening as being exclusively and necessarily incurred so that he can discharge his duties.
I live in a house provided (grudgingly) by my ‘Employer’ who ‘pays’ me less than the Minimum Wage: my ‘Employer’ does not pay for any of my living costs (above and beyond rates/water-rates) – if I want my grass cut, I do it myself, or pay someone to do it for me; no-one pays for ‘cleaning’, apart from ourselves; similarly, we pay for our own food (unsubsidised) and drink (unsubsidised) – nor does my ‘Employer’ pay for me to go on jolly foreign jaunts…
“Sorry I missed the vote, PM. But I was trimming the bush.”
Didn’t the Serjeant at Arms, Speaker, and Home Secretary conspire to have Parliament illegally searched (not the cellar search performed every November for some reason) and there was no thought of Parliamentary privilege then.
The rules have not been changed retrospectively. They were the same 5 years ago. Legg has simply enforced them. The speed limit analogy is a poor one as that is a civil offence and what our MPs are doing is a criminal one.
The real issue is their complete disregard for any moral standards during the crime and when faced with the irrefutable evidence.
The honourable members were supposed to police themselves.They have failed. The idea that they will police themselves again when Legg has finished is frankly ridiculous.
Instead of bleating about how unfair this is,perhaps the vipers who stole this money should think about how they have defrauded the tax payer. That they do not speaks volumes.
Claiming breach of parliamentary privilege ,when policy announcements are leaked frequently and the lobby has such a powerful influence, is beneath contempt.
The political classes set a new low for behaviour when this first came to light. They have now managed to set the bar even lower. Utter scum.
Dear Mr Field,
Might I suggest you and all the goody two shoes form a new political party?
Your Country needs you.
H E L P !
Back to the fairy story now.
Sorry Frank. You’ve well and truly pissed on your chips.
Squawk!!
If I hear another MP complain that Legg has retrospectively changed the rules I will rip their head off and shit down their neck!
SQUAWK!!!
Well Mr Fields expense claims may have been modest, but it is inconceivable that he was not aware of the troughing that was going on. He remained silent. That makes him just about as guilty as the rest.
So, guilt because of what they might have known?
So, guilt because of what they might have known?
Certainly, if he knew his fellow MPs we stealing from the public purse it was his duty to make it known. His silence makes him a party to the crime.
Gordon, your time is up…
……………………. in the memories of the deluded.
most of us are not Tory’s but really labour haters. What on earth makes you want to support this shower of corrupt people?
‘cos I might get some money?
if it is not “easy as it ought to be” why prolong the agony? I reckon you are
bi-polar, correct?
anything but labour
Changing an oil tankers direction is easy; Ram it into an iceberg.
This is gordon brown, on the “good” ship labour- goin down.
Lucky Ol’ Sarah.
An Oxfordshire lady of my acquaintance would, I’m sure, at this point shudder and exclaim ” Oooerr no! That’d be loik ‘avin John Merrick snufflin’ round yer Mary!”
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/john-hurt-elephant-man.jpg
Unlucky old Sarah then. (I shuddered myself as I typed it!)
“well it certainly aint as easy as it ought to be – but think in terms of the triangulation strategy that Clinton “invented” and think of the direciton of travel established by the Thatcher/Major regimes…….so its kinda hard to change the direction of an oil tanker, see what I mean?”
If you want to indulge in this sort of dirty talk, I’d stagger over to Labourwrist you grubby little fuck. It’s full of wankers like you who spout the same shitespeak.
Yeah, well your brain has obviously been starved of oxygen at some stage of your sorry little life. Apparently there’s no cure, how sad, never mind.
Yes, definitely signs of oxygen starvation there. Your mum probably smoked about 60 a day, and drank enough White Lightning to light up a medium sized town, and all on benefits. Hmmm….I wonder how she made up any shortfall in her income…..you thick, brain dead, jock bastard.
Is that the best you can do you kilted fuck? I’ve had better comebacks from a badly digested vindaloo FFS. You really must do better…….y’know like throw yourself off the Forth bridge or summat.
In Rampton
Give me strength. Why don’t you comeback when you’ve evolved a little bit more, you fucking jock knuckledragger?
Wander off.
Don’t you start anonymous, or you go on the fucking list.
I’ll come out when I’m ready
Too late, you already sound like a nonce.
Wanda; I seem to recall that Gary Glitter adopted the name.
Even for a crack addict, you’ve got a crap memory.
Wanda are u inf act Thick as Thieves or just a tribute act ?
Guido you must be knackered from your 5am all nighter.
Sunday sleaze
How about this shower of sh!t are still in government????????????????
piss orf.
stupid gobshite
Guido, just noticed there is only 5 days left on the No.10 patition for Gorden to go. Shouldn’t there be a last push to get it over the 100,000 mark before it lands on his desk again next friday?
Have to say, bit gutted it doesn’t end on Nov 5th
I am a great fan of showing McDoom he is site. BUT as some unknown cabinet minister said to Matthew Parris if I pulled the plug on Gordon, would the water leave the bath?
Now that is corruption.
If you pulled the plug on Gordoom, the Taxpayers would reimburse you with 88p
Seven Bellies for Celebrity Mum of the Year!
She is a great example to the seven bellied not to be forced to resemble the performers on Television X and she kept a house in London while also keeping on in Reddich while at the same time protecting the UK from Michael Savage
Two from the Telegraph.
“Jack Straw ‘tried to conceal MPs’ expenses’”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6360729/Jack-Straw-tried-to-conceal-MPs-expenses.html
“MPs declare second jobs and free trips”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6360583/MPs-declare-second-jobs-and-free-trips.html
Thieving fuckers one & all. Have just donated to the Sunlight Inst to help nail Fat Jacky.
Isn’t Jack Straw the morally-upright representative of the Labour Party who is appearing on this week’s Question Time to provide the contrast between decent politicians and the reprehensible, fascistic, racist (add any insult) Nick Griffin of the BNP?
If I had to choose the ‘decent politician’ Jack Straw (isn’t that an oxymoron anyway?) or the ‘reprehensible racist’ Nick Griffin as a neighbour I’d choose Griffin any day.
The fawkes is lazy zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
We need more political corruption.
And you’re a left tit.
Left it behind.. ooh Matron.
No shit Sherlock.
shitehawk
What? 101% corruption rather than the current 99.999%?
Looks like the government are trying ensure solar power doesn’t take off.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthcomment/geoffrey-lean/6349207/Sun-sets-on-the-rooftop-revolution.html
The useless bastards just don’t like us having any control.
Of course they dont.
Because if you and i have control- they- dont.
Look you plebs, you get the occasional vote – bloody annoying it is too, us having to deal with you great unwashed dirty beasts. I expect a good salary to compensate one for having to buy all that soap and handwash. You electorate types disgust me and do you appreciate what I do?
Did she get dressed in the dark? Zero out of Five.
Sorry, they are right. Small scale solar is only economical for remote areas.
The infrastructure costs and continuous running costs are just too large.
Same for small <2m turbines. Even large one need high reliability.
The hardware failure rate is quicker than the pay back time. For example, it costs so much energy for an engineer to drive out to the site that it would be better to have just run a generator on the fuel used!
Community generation is the only small scale generation that works. Sorry.
Agreed up to a point on solar, the problem is our latitude — 50 degrees from the equator — not good. Wind farms don’t work period — last January during the coldest week for 13 years I watched the turbine on the hill opposite not turning once.
Ground source heat pumps are the way forward, they are not noisy or visually intrusive, they are however very expensive if you need to use a bore hole method although not so much for new-builds — if this could be overcome by grants etc we’d would fit one.
Heat pumps are heat pumps. The heat has to have a source. It must be supplied by the environment. The heat pump only “concentrates” it inside the house.
It can be from the sun, geothermal or waste.
The sun system obviously needs a certain area per house of field space. Totally impractical in all towns.
The geothermal needs a large surface area deep underground. Totally impractical with modern drilling methods.
The best heat pump source is from the sewers, but then in winter, if we all did this they would freeze and block.
I was only talking about the cost and consumption of the equipment to put the power back into the grid, and the infrastructure costs associated. Solar is quite OK for remote off grid installations. I lived 3 years on a solar array.
Ever thought what it would be like if we all had microgenerators and back fed the grid. The day that the power line blew down, regular occurrence here, how would the lineman make sure all the sources were disconnected before he could re-connect the line. His hair might stand on end otherwise! The infrastructure is complex for a multi-source system
There is only one solution, and that is to stop populating a land so heavily that its energy input from the environment is beyond its total energy consumption. At present the UK does not have enough room to house its population AND capture the energy to run it from the environment. (Please note, you have to have enough excess energy to create and maintain the energy gathering system)
Read this about our new world government
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/16/obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty-in-copenhagen-claims-british-lord-monckton/
This sounds plausible but the Treaty would have to be ratified. Are the Congress and the HoR in on the deal?
Tragically, it’s not ‘if’ world government but ‘when’ – mainly because people wouldn’t heed all the warning signs – AND THEY STILL WON’T.
Expenses scams and our ongoing somewhat amusing exposure of Gordon/zanuliebore, as real as they are, are a diversion from the next phase of this long-term global fascist agenda.
As well as the banking scam; the swine 11/vaccination scam; the wars scam; the 911 scam, the MAN-MADE global warming scam is the one that’s been blown wide open most notably first imo, and Lord Monckton, raising awareness of December in Copenhagen, says it all pretty much here – after that it’s up to each one of us…a lot of help/ideas can be found at tpuc dot org:
Too true! And the BBC reporting that the ice will disappear based on the Catlin misadventure, a misadventure carried out, not by climate scaientists, not even by scientists, but by piss-poor polar explorers that were apparently caught off-guard by the cold during their trek. A polar trek that failed to reach the pole, or anywhere near it…..
Meanwhile the BBC have refused to carry any news about how the tree-ring proxies that were used to prop up the “hockey-stick” (after the science based on ice-cores was shown to be utterly unscientific and incorrect) were based on very shoddy and biased selection of data in an unscientific way and an unfortunate use of only 12 trees, in such a way as to create a hockey stick where none should exist if a more accurate and wide use of tree-rings from the same area had been used. In other words, the “hockey stick has been killed all over again!
It seems that climate science is a unique discipline of science whereby validity is entirely conclusion based, where scientific background and qualifications are irrelevant as artists, and other non-scientists and scientists who have specialised in other sciences have their work lauded and included as valid, IF they support AGW, but published and acclaimed Phd’s and other experts are ridiculed if they do not support AGW and where the charge of, “he is not a climate scientist!” is only valid IF they do not support AGW. But if they have a long history of being a professor in a climate science discipline, but do not support AGW, then they are still “not a climate scientist”.
Climatology is the only “science” where empirical evidence is not necessary and is invalidated by a conclusion contrary to the AGW thesis. Where computer models and hearsay and any natural event that happens to support the thesis is valid, where no amount of empirical evidence, counter events, or actual proof is allowed if it counters the theory.
In short, climatology is the only science that starts with the theory and ends there. Where the theory is self-validating and experimentation relies upon data that is selectively used to “fit” the theory in order for the experiment to be valid.
In other words, climatology is NOT science. And the truly terrifying thought is that another strand of the global fascist government is being constructed upon this theological non-science.
Lord Christopher Monckton, former science adviser to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, gave a scathing and lengthy presentation, complete with detailed charts, graphs, facts, and figures which culminated in the utter decimation of both the pop culture concept of global warming and the credible threat of any significant anthropomorphic climate change.
Good, so that’s the end of all that crap then, if only!!
If only it were. There is something very touching about a member of our hereditary Peerage singing the praises of the very United States of America which were forged in an act of rebellion against the same British Crown which awarded his ancestors their status.
Yes, as part of their scorched earth policy they are trying to ensure that the lights go out in 2013-2014 due to a serious lack of generating capacity.
There again, it could just be that they are utterly incompetent at planning these things.
Anyone who hitches their wagon to wind power as “the way forward” is not just incompetent, they are clearly delusional as well.
Unfortunately CMD shows no sign of facing up to reality either, the existing political elites in the big three are lamentable sheep, without a single workable, sensible or economically viable energy policy between them.
CMD`s honeymoon when he wins office, looks like being the shortest ever, probably even shorter tha Omahas was in America.
The inevitable consequences of doing what you are told, as opposed to doing what is right for your country perhaps?
What about hydro? Disserth falls, White Lady, 6 watermills witin 10 miles of my house, could all work 24/7 even when the wind don’t blow
Bastards, aren’t they? How anyone with environmental aspirations could vote Labour is beyond me.
PRESIDENTIAL SLEAZE.
I spent most of my working life as an accountant, dealing with clients tax affairs… I am soooo wondering how many of these shifty bastards are going to wind up in front of HMRC’s Compliance Unit. All of them, I hope.
Anyway… it seems it was all forecast in the Bible — see: http://dailymoaner.com/?p=498
As an accountant, why don’t yopu complain to HMRC and ask that an investigation is carired out? 27 MP’s being investigated by HMRC smacks of pandering to the media for a scapegoat when actually they ALL should be investigated, as you say.
Hear, hear.
They ALL have been investigated by Legg. 27 are worthy of further attention by the tax authorities.
As their accountant, you’d be just as guilty. So you’d best hope they AREN’T investigated…
Say what ?
eh yes eh no eh Peter what do you think?
He bottled it
What is the, it, one can only imagine
Hmmm sleaze
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nflq5/Straight_Talk_17_10_2009/
Delightful, what?
Like pulling teeth. Disingenuous warthog.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6879611.ece
A FRONTBENCH Liberal Democrat peer is refusing to reveal the location of her main home, which she used to claim more than £70,000 in expenses from the House of Lords.
Fuck Me ! If She’s 48 ,I’m still at school Greedy fat ugly trougher ! Oh and i bet the “friend” she shares the house with is a “lady friend” Bitch !
Bugger me – it’s Ronnie Barker’s ugly sister!
I believe she is Widdis prettier sister.
Baronesses? – 10 a fookin penny!
Oh dear Gordon:
Biscuitgate: After 24 hours of dithering Gordon Brown finally confesses his favourite dunk” Gordon Brown has finally revealed his favourite biscuit – after 24 hours of dithering.
The Prime Minister did nothing for his reputation for indecision when he refused to give a straight answer to the vital issue during a live web chat. But yesterday he tried to bring the ‘Biscuitgate’ controversy to an end by announcing that he was partial to chocolate ones.
Even then, he would not be pinned down and declined to say whether he preferred Bourbons, chocolate digestives, Jaffa cakes or American-style chocolate-chip cookies.
The Biscuitgate row started when Mr Brown answered questions on the Mumsnet website on a wide range of issues, including his recent eye problem. But it all went wrong when he repeatedly failed to respond to enquiries from parents about his favourite biscuit.
With a determination worthy of Jeremy Paxman, the question – a staple of interviews on the site – was put to Mr Brown no fewer than 12 times. Time and again he refused to answer.
One member, MadameDefarge, said: ‘Maybe he needs to consult with his advisers on what would be the most vote-winning biscuit to admit to liking?’
Mr Brown left the hour-long session with the question unanswered, and afterwards Downing Street still refused to comment.
But finally at midday yesterday, he answered on his Twitter web page, writing: ‘I missed Mumsnet question about biscuits: the answer is absolutely anything with a bit of chocolate on it, but trying v hard to cut down.’
Rival party leaders have been less reticent about their preferences when they appeared on Mumsnet: Tory leader David Cameron likes oatcakes, while Liberal Democrat Nick Clegg prefers Rich Tea if they are dunked and HobNobs if not.
Mr Brown had spent an hour answering Mumsnet members’ questions on subjects from childcare to Afghanistan.
But things had started to go badly when he was asked if he thought he had been an unlucky Prime Minister. ‘Not when I’m sitting here at Mumsnet!’ he answered.
‘That has to be the cringiest thing I have ever read,’ came one reply.
Oatcake? A biscuit? Very ostentatious.
Apparently Mark Oaten is quite partial to a chocolate log.
Sakostic is going to send him some bonios
Melted Penguins would highlight the problem of Global Warming. Doh…
Has the gorgon, tried perchance, a Crawford’s milk chocolate mini roll? Maybe, on reflection, too sweet for him,…….. but jaw droppingly delicious!
I heard someone in the lamestream media mention Gordon likes shortbread – that’s about right – he’s rite Scottish ( ;0) ) to his nail-bitten knuckles:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221180/Biscuitgate-After-24-hours-dithering-Gordon-Brown-finally-confesses-favourite-dunk.html
He truly is beyond parody and makes John Major look a serious leader.
Jimmy Brown. the Primeministerial Clown.
Given the shortage of news, wouldn’t this be an ideal opportunity to update us on all your exciting legal campaigns?
Boooooooooo. gertcha.
“It was a problem that started on Obama Beach. Or Obama’s Bitch. Or Omaha Biscuit.”
!It started in America. what? Sorry, it started in Germany.”
moronic celt
For your benefit? No. Announcements will be made at the appropriate time. But you will be gutted to know that one about which you were most petulant has been settled to Guido’s satisfaction. You can just carry on being petulant in the comments.
Brilliant. Thanks Guido. Eh?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOh – get her!
Who said anything about my benefit? Six weeks after promising financial info, still no sign but you’re tapping the poor saps here for more money. Not that they appear to have given you any to begin with.
Why so cryptic? What was settled? And your statement you will have to admit is pretty meaningless unless we know how easily satisfied you are. Am I right in guessing this is your evasive way of saying Mad Nads bottled out?
There was a time when you used at least to pretend to believe in transparency.
Not with around we ain’t.
No one knows what happens if retiring MPs refuse to make their repayments http://is.gd/4odri – O.O someone mentioned fireworks @guidofawkes
see 40 for full interview.
They couldn’t ████████ a ████-██ in a ███████.
Redactly!
Hahaha errr
A piss up in a brewery? Is that what you mean?
Dog. Sense of smell. Hire car long after disappearance. Guilty parents?
Didn’t part of the case against Huntley require the jury to accept that just because he was so good at cleaning out his car that no traces of the victims were found there, it didn’t mean he couldn’t have murdered them?
And how he managed to take both bodies along the perimeter of an American military base to dump them without being caught on the base’s CCTV is another interesting fact. The American military must use the same cameras as the ones used at the pentagon on 9/11 everywhere.
Cameras are relatively cheap; archives and the people to monitor them are not so.
BTW I’m holidaying by the Thames today..
The greatest sleaze of all is why the information herein this website ( http://eotp.wordpress.com/ ) isn’t given greater prominence.
The expenses scandal was covered brilliantly –but why is the issue of vote-rigging, which “would disgrace a banana republic”[1], not covered with the same ferocity? What is the media hiding? Vote-rigging is not an isolated incident. It brings into question the very essence of democracy in the country. In addition to this, we are also being “governed” by crooks and degenerates.
WHY ARE THE PEOPLE TOLERATING THIS?
392 people are calling on the British Army to monitor elections: http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1837752/?view=results
[1] http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article377468.ece
Multiculturalism in action.
Other Country’s standards, (or lack of them) are forcibly imposed on all British people.
Why are THE PEOPLE tolerating ANY of the shit flying around at the moment? Because the British people are INCREDIBLY complacent. Incredibly detached, and incredibly stupid.
Too many unengaged minds fed ‘Strictly’ and X-factor.
how can we stop jacqie smith getting a peerage? surely ther is a way?
There is a way, but it’s highly illegal.
An old friend of this site had a perfect solution, ie, shove a shot gun up her arse and pull the trigger.
Jeffry Archer was one too many
Or if you’re an Obo the Clown fan, a broken bottle up the Huhne would have much the same effect ;o)
There’s enough shit flying round her house at the moment – a good old fashioned lmpost would suffice,re-inforced to carry her weight of course.
What happened to her Noel Edmonds looky likey hubby? (the one with porn flicks) Does she still speak to him, or more to the point him to her?
That fookin Blooblyland closed… Disgrace.
++++++BREAKING NEWS++++++
In the BBC new world order Humty Dumty survives.
Yes.Heard that on the radio this morning when still half asleep.Thought I’d imagined it.Can’t upset the kids,can we?
Only the government is allowed to do that with horrific global ‘warming’ adverts aimed at the poor wee mites.
They like to influence them early, so that the next crop of taxpayers is even more compliant.
Great book on the subject.
‘Air Con’ , by Ian Wishart.
brilliant!
Did Dinosaurs drive cars, fly on planes, and have coal fired power Stations?
Won’t spoil the rest. Worth a Google look and if interested might be available in a good bookstore. Climate Preachers won’t appear in the same debate as Ian.
He has too many irrefutable facts.
Homosexuality = skinnyness. Comments.
Said the battered deep fried mars bar eater.
is that you s p e d o you pile of crap
Yeah it’s him all right. Can’t you recognise his writing style of a socially inadequate cretin?
Why Choose Organic Strawberries?
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Although those conventional strawberries may look as lovely, there are definite differences. A typical grower of conventional strawberries may use methyl bromide, chloropicrin, Captan, malathion, Diprom, Vendex, Kelthane, and Avermectin to bring a crop of strawberries to market (371 pesticides are approved by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use on strawberries). Any of these may show up in your strawberry basket in the form of legally allowable pesticide residues. On occasion, residues are found to exceed even current legally allowable tolerances, the safety of which has been called into question by Consumers Union and other reputable groups, especially for children.
Choosing organic strawberries, grown with no toxic and persistent chemicals, is the smart alternative. Yes, you may notice a higher sticker price for organic strawberries than for their conventional cousins.
mmmmmm…..got any cream handy?
But only from Cheddar…
‘Quit now Jacqui’, say two thirds of her own voters…and neighbours she tried to smear tell of relief after their complaint is upheld
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221161/Quit-Jacqui-say-thirds-voters–neighbours-tried-smear-tell-relief-complaint-upheld.html
That’s about FORTY MILLION ‘YES’ ACROSS THE NATION, MRS. CHIMNEY.
CAN’T YOU JUST FCUK OFF OR ARE YOU THAT DESPERATE TO WANT TO ‘RUB SHOULDERS (?)’ WITH BARONESS HOUDINI, BARONESS SCROTELAND, LORD MARTIN AND LORD HANDELSMEN ??
Lets all go on fucking strike until they give us our kids money back…
They, being the Bankers right?
They, being the NewLabour stooges who have given all our money to the bankers to bail them out rather than letting the buggers go broke like we should have done and just guaranteeing deposits.
Fuckwit.
Are you signing that posting or directing “Fuckwit” at me?
It seems that bankers and our beloved politicians are in similar categories – I am certainly not disagreeing! Just the bankers are immeasurably more in hock to us. Did I hear that the City lads are threatening to decamp if the 50% income tax is imposed? What a bloody cheek.
Err, if you’re going on fucking strike, where are you going to get your kids from?
If you need to be told the answer to that you, obviously, do not have a job!
A job dear boy? What is a job?
I dunno, the expenses storm clouds might have one silver lining. Brown’s handling of it has been so bad, his own party of entitled little piggies now wants him gone.
Now that Lisbon is done and dusted, there is no reason left for Mandebum to stop the revolt. The next few weeks will be exciting and should end with Brown’s demise. Yessssssssss.
Don’t believe me? Hey, don’t take my word for it. It’s already started….
There is a petition ongoing to stop Blair becoming EU president
http://www.gopetition.com/online/16745.html
Done
Signed !.
Won’t work!
The EU has no interest in democracy or what the people think. Eurocrats are only interested in their project – to create a socialist republic off Europe.
Also, once part of the socialist elite, you are untouchable by the democratic process. Getting kicked out of parliament is no problem (Blair, Mandlescum, Michael Martin), no matter how sleazy or corrupt you are – you just get elevated to the Lords or the EU Commission / Presidency.
Socialists do not believe in democracy. They believe they are above it! Some pigs are just more equal than others!
Well said. Europe is in the hands of socialist tossers pursuing their utopian (dystopian for the rest of us) dreams. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile.
Say NO to socialism.
You will have to be careful now about questioning the eu now too, when the lisbon treaty is ratified the death penalty is back for any particulsr reason the eu overlords choose – particularly rebellion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8312780.stm
scottish prannet
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23751628-mp-spent-taxpayers-money-on-coffee-morning-mail-shots.do
Labour are desperate:
http://www.the-gazette.co.uk/news/villages/articles/2009/10/07/392662-calls-for-councillor-to-quit-over-misconduct/
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FAAWaUty2Zr8&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FjLKnCeeAW48
“Ex-minister Frank Field has insisted he will not pay back more than £7,000 requested following the independent audit of MPs’ expenses.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8312916.stm
Ah, that man of honour. The arrogant and pompous little twerp. The church is blessing its luck he did not become a priest.
He always seemed quite likeable for a politician, if sanctimonious.
I was wrong on one count.
I am citing Mr Konecny directly from his Telegraph blog comment. These are his own words.
Radim Konecny wrote:
I am czech. How UK and France (both signed Munchen treaty) and Germany (Nazis killed 370.000 czech people) can even dare to push us for LT? EU was waiting 10 months for German constitutional court. We NOW wait for the same czech court, Klaus was warned by this court not to sign anything. I am from eastern Europe, I am proud of it. Personally: EU doesn`t improve a life of my family, we don`t need eu money, eu advices, eu bureaucracy and LT. I am proud of the czech currency, that got stronger by 50% in last 10 years, so we don`t need EURO that brings to Europe stagnancy. Find another idiots that will serve you as a bumper between you and Russia and will donate frrench farmers!
All we need is a piece of paper signed by Frau Merkel for David Cameron to wave at Heathrow Airport, saying the Lisbon Treaty is not serious after all, and headlines to follow saying, ‘Czech democracy will be respected’ and we will know that everything is a remake of ‘Back To The Future’.
NewLabour signed it, had it ratified and are pushing for it’s implementation and have put up their candidate, Blair, for the ‘Presidency’ of the Council of Ministers. Oh!, and reneged on that promised referendum by saying that the Lisbon Reform Treaty was not called a ‘constitution’ and therefore they no longer bound by a manifesto undertaking. Cynicism of the most outrageous kind.
Cameron cannot have a referendum on a fully ratified treaty as the referendum will be only a glorified opinion poll. It will be ‘null and void’ in terms of the structures which New Labour have acceded to.
The only option will be a determined campaign (with European Allies) to ‘repatriate’ powers. The treaty was signed by a constitutional British Government and that is a contract under international law.
Cameron will need the support of the country in doing this.
I wish him well.
I find it difficult to support someone when I don’t know what he will do.
Cameron could hold a referendum, you might think it’s an opinion poll, so might others, but it could still be held.
I think you do not want opinion to be measured.
No referendum no Tory vote.
No referendum on europe – no tory vote. Btw, uKIp are voting for their new leader next week I think.
Agreed – the betrayal of the British people was done by Blair,Brown and Labour who reneged on their 2005 Manifesto NOT David Cameron and the Conservatives. I know it’s been said on numerous ocasions but an Opposition is powerless to hold any sort of referendum. If the Treaty is ratified prior to the Conservatives being voted into power it is pointless to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty. What needs to be held is a referendum on whether the Conservative Government should attempt to repatriate powers back from the EU.
At the end of the day British Sovereignty comes down to President Vaclav of the Czech Republic and whether he has the will to hold out long enough to enable Britain to vote in a government who will then recall the British instrument of ratification from Rome as they are entitled to do at anytime prior to the Treaty becoming law and effectively kill it off
A word perfect analysis of the whole referendum debate.
Cameron is totally powerless unless or until he is elected.
Why everyone keeps bleating on about a post referendum, referendum or they won’t vote tory is beyond me why don’t we all concentrate on the fuxxxrs who refused to give us a vote and have tried clandestinely to sell us up the swanee?
My own opinion, for what it is worth, is that we,as a country, should not be bound by a Treaty signed by a quasi dictatorship,on a broken manifesto promise, which arbitrarily gives away our fundamental constitutional rights, in favour of an unelected quango in Brussels.
The thought of Blair and his slot gobbed, carpetbagging mate becoming President and first lady of this unelected elite is utterly revolting.
The leader of the Euro Greens had a distinct warning for Britain during the ‘Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty’ debate. Europe wont be held back by those who dont want to move forward together.
Good. Kick us out then.
Good point well made !.
Sod Lisbon!
We need a referendum on whether to kowtow to or wave bye bye (and thanks for the fish) to the EU communists.
Does anybody believe that Cameron, PR maestro extraordinaire, with the Tory machine running full whack and unrestricted access to the MSM, couldn’t force a referendum yesterday?
Smoke and mirrors is not the half of it.
right, albacore. let’s see what ukip are made of after their leadership elections I suspect their overall 500 PPC line up is going to be impressive and quite capable. I think they have Count Tolstoy? standing in whitney (Dave’s seat) but we will wait with bated breast
Hear hear Rob. Our only hope now is the Queen dissolving Parliament. She MUST do so… she has ample reason, the corruption and paralysis at every tier her government.
The queen acting against corruption thats like asking berlusconi to pass up the chance of a shag with a 17yr old beauty queen. The fucking ‘royal’ family are about as righteous as the Rothschilds – don’t hold yer breath mate
B.Liar and Frau Merkin. Bloody marvellous!
They’re back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221192/Peter-Mandelson-urged-drop-Gordon-Brown-secret-talks.html
….and lower down on the same page the Welsh Windbag says that Harpic Manhater-Harperson is the best thing since sliced bread (or words to that effect).
With an endorsement from the likes of him I would like to think her miserable career in politics is finally at an end.
In a colourful speech at a dinner in Camberwell in honour of the Deputy Labour Leader, Lord Kinnock questioned the motives of opponents of her women’s rights campaign, suggesting they ‘came off the breast too early’.
No one can say he came off the public teat “too early”. Good to see Kinnockio-Snout preaching what he practices. Retard.
Poor old Neil. Still as big an idiot as ever.
Neil Kinnock is the biggest wanker in the world. FACT.
And Harriet Hateful is the most hateful bitch in the world!
.
To Flabour. You sir are correct.But Cherie Bliar has to be a close second.
She is a perfect bitch.
However she certainly isn’t perfect!!
I have this wonderful dream that like Samson (the blind and imprisoned strong man in the Bible) Brown will grasp the pillars and bring the whole edifice down on the lot of them, by calling an election.
He’d salvage a small measure of his reputation and have some the country’s grudging respect by doing so.
This man is a crook and it is being covered up. An MP living in London and representing a constituency only 35 miles away, claims max exes every year.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/search/4631497.Tory_resigns_over_MP_s_refusal_to_explain_expenses/
Baron seems to be Teflon coated. Rumour has it that the money he raised by upping his Tax Payer Funded Mortgage was used to increase his London Property Portfolio.
“He [Frank Field MP] said of the cash demand: “Imagine that you have been driving, perfectly legally, through a 30 mile an hour zone at a speed of 25mph. Imagine then your reaction when, five years later, you receive multiple fines as a decision has been taken to change, retrospectively, the speed limit to 20.”
What Frankie-boy fails to point out is that any independent observer would judge that the appropriate speed limit for that zone was actually 10mph …. but that he and his fellow MPs had set the 30 figure to enable them to exceed the reasonable limit. Then, of course, they are also the policeman with the speed-gun, the magistrate, judge, jury, appeal judge, etc. and so whether they were doing the claimed 25., or in fact 30, 40, 50, they turned a blind eye to their colleagues behaviour.
The defence that they were “within the rules” simply doesn’t count when the defendants themselves have set and policed them.
WHEN ARE THE SQUEALLY PORKERS GOING TO GET THAT ?
Frank Field’s response is very disappointing. Until now I had thought that he was one of the few decent MPs on the NuLiebour benches, but clearly I was wrong. I think he will come to regret this.
ditto: I’m very surprised
he clearly hasn’t ‘got it’
Yeah, I had considerable regard for Frank.
Not any more…
I think Frank Field’s reputation will suffer – he is/was(?) held in “some regard” by the public as a honest MP with integrity but by taking this line he is in danger have getting himself into the same morass as those MPs that have “worked the system” – a great pityi f this proves to be the case.
As a postscript I have just watched last Thursday’s BBC Question Tine and again I was very dis-appointed in Alan Johnson.Prior to this programme I had thought of him as possobly someone who could save the Labour Party but I fear that having watched him I’ve come to the conclusion that he is a untrustworthy and calculating as the next man and in thrall to the CWU of which he was,of course leader at one point prior to him being elected to Parliament!!! What a shame – not as his image has portrayed him but just another “small” politician
They should be able to question Legg’s calculations. Perhaps Legg made a mistake. If he then stands by his counterclaim then tough, pay up.
Any MP’s Who question Legg Should have their reasons made public so we can see what a gang of weasels they really are ! and we can slag them off some more for doing it !
I’m all for that.
My estimation of Field fell through the floor when he apologised to Brown in the House about the 10p tax business.
It was grovelling, lickspittle stuff. Gut wrenching. But told you all you wanted to hear about Field’s inner strength and where his loyalties really lie.
Self preservation was the main theme. And this story about his expenses just about confirms that judgement..
He may have to pay whether he likes it or not.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-could-have-salaries-docked-over-expenses-1804879.html
“Imagine that you have been driving, perfectly legally, through a 30 mile an hour zone at a speed of 25mph. Imagine then your reaction when, five years later, you receive multiple fines as a decision has been taken to change, retrospectively, the speed limit to 20.”
Sounds like exactly the sort of stunt New Labour likes to pull. Don’t forget these bastards want to tax all your home improvements and the view from your windows by sending their fascist jobsworths into your homes to make annual inspections.
New Labour’s answer to unemployment = create a million non-jobs for fascist jobsworths to make the lives of the rest of us even more miserable.
Just when you think MP’s (paid public servants) can get no lower, along comes another sleaze story. I LOVE IT!!!!
Yet another example (as if any were necessary) of the appalling profligacy of the BBC:
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6879552.ece
but of course Mr Yentob’s three huge salaries are all ‘within the rules’
no wonder he looks so pleased with himself
He also act’s and gets interviewed for which he will also get paid !
SHUT THE BBC DOWN NOW !
We now have hundreds of channels showing repeats
why do we need one WE have to pay for ?
My real name is Botney. I have been getting away with this for years. It’s time someone showed the plebs how being arse-about-tit can be art. Of course it wouldn’t be art unless it was lucrative. It’s not the 19th century you know.
paid a salary as the corporation’s creative director and receives separate fees for presenting and producing Imagine, the flagship arts programme.
That is very clearly a conflict of interest. It is also why traditionally BBC executives waive any fees they might receive in any programmes they produce. Far be it for me to suggest that these programmes only get financial approval by an executive so that he or she could could receive additional benefit from that production.
In any case how does he manage to perform two jobs simultaneously? I know my employer might raise an eyebrow if I disappeared every afternoon to do another job round the corner.
The BBC can be as profligate as it likes with license-fee payers’ money – I don’t care, not being a fan of Eastenders, Pro-Labour BBC News and endless fecking dancing contests, I don’t have a TV.
However, I can’t help but think that the 140-quid a year the Beeb extracts from most households is 140 quid a year stolen from the real economy.
Mr Yonteb? Your income from the BBC ain’t a private matter – we should be told how much you get and where from.
Answer: Dont buy a licence and watch telly on t’internet. Simples.
How does one go about starting a TV channel, y’know, like Dave? I have a great idea for a tv channel – lucrative and unique and it’s even legal. Even the vermin at the BBC might approve.
That bastard really is getting his pound of flesh
It’s dead easy.
You need a video camera, an HDTV one would be best, must have a fitting for a tripod, and a tripod.
You would also possibly need a video mixer, though a software based one might be OK.
You would need a good broadband provider. And set up a You Tube account in the name of your TV channel, where you could host broadcasts. Though only in 10 minute chunks.
You could, if you could afford it, go for streaming of live content. That’s more expensive, though.
“A handful of labour,,,”
Once again my maxim is holding true.
“The truth and socialism are very strange bed fellows”
They all hate the truth.
Mail on Line reports that Scotland Yard’s Diversity Chief’s son is charged with sex attacks on women on the Underground.
Diversity Chief earns £75,000 – responsible among other things for the safety of women and minority groups – + said to be a protegee of Sir Ian Blair.
Instant karma’s going to get you.
My pop services cars-don’t mean I don’t break them
Guido Who Have You Got Moderating This Blog ? Alot Of The Comments Have Been Removed Just Leaving The Answers ! Must Be A Labour Sympathizer !
Yeah Guido don’t like talk about the m m m m mur mur disappearance of Madeliene McCann.
Not that Guido is a tool of the state of course. Just a tool.
A Few Years Ago : Mp’s Would Have Been sacked By Their Own Party For Fraud ! But Alas That Was When They Were (Honourable) How Dare They Still Use That Term When There Isnt An Honourable One In There ? But Now If That Were To Happen The Whole House Would Be Empty Including The Three Main Party Leaders !
George Bernard Shaw, co-founder of the Fabian Society, no less, is reputed to have asked a lady whether she would sell her body for £1 million.
She replied that she might. He then asked if she would do it for £10.
“What do you think I am?”
“We’ve already established what you are, ma’am. Now we’re just haggling over the price.”
Did someone call?
Wonder how many years it’s going to take to have a thorough and public examination of the expenses of the House of Lords troughers?
At the moment, apart from the few, the Lords are managing to keep their expenses out of the public glare.
As for MP’s trying to claim parliamentary privelege to prevent the police from investigating their fraudulent claims – I thought even the Queen was not exempt from prosecution if she committed a crime.
All these “Lords” and MP troughers pale into insignificance in the face of the astounding theft perpetrated on this country by the “Royal” family. How long before we find out about that?
I think you’ll find if you go researching that all their finances are in the public domain.
You might also find that k+++nocks and bliars finances derived from the public purse are more difficult to access even though they amount to millions.
I think you are very naive. The debts of the nazi granny only became public knowledge after her death. How many other royals are treating us like an open wallet? Knowing Blair and Kinnochio (and Brown, Cameron and Osborne) are crooks does not excuse the royals.
TOP TIP FOR HMRC
Close your eyes and pretend its the taxpayer you are dealing with.
That should do the trick.
Check out this stupid moo. ‘Polly Toynbees columns make me cry’
http://twitter.com/BevaniteEllie
‘Polly Toynbees columns make me cry’
Me too.
Possibly for different reasons.
RAAAAAAARRRRKK!!! (tingtingting) (retch) (puke) BALDIE!!!
If the police aren’t going to do it, please can we start making citizens arrests on the errant MP’s.
Frank Field has started to question Legg. If this is so, then maybe the wheels have fallen of the Legg bus?
Mob rule, Iain Blair says: ‘It wasn’t me, guv!’ Frank Field questions Legg, Miliband is in his own crater, Brown being plotted against -again!-
If true, sorry Frank you are excluded from forming a new anti-sleaze party. Not you then as saviour.
Now pay up and fuck off.
Yes, if you want to be arrested for assault, unlawful detention and, no doubt, various hate/speech/thought crimes by New Labour’s political police. I understand they do a nice line in arresting and prosecuting innocent members of the public who have dared to attempt to make citizens’ arrests on the feral low-life scum who prey on the old and vulnerable.
New Labour Police – “We can’t/won’t/don’t make the streets safe (delete as appropriate) but we will arrest those law-abiding citizens who try to”
Police = The Armed Wing of the New Labour Project and Social Services = useless and unfit for purpose
Ridding this country of guns was the worse thing that could of happened. The only reason the allah ackbars are calm in this country is because 90% of them are to cowardly to blow themselves up thankfully. If we still had guns in this country we would of saw their real intentions long ago like every other country has.
Have a look at Inspector Gadget’s blog (serving police officer), where they have all just been told by ‘on high’ that they are making too many arrests and must cut down.
Yep, TOO MANY arrests.
I understand what you say, but i still think its worth a try. Who’s with me?
Unlikely. Citizens arrests are only lawful in a very specific set of circumstances.
The offences alleged carry more than 7 years so it will be fine.
Parliamentary privilege didn’t seem to matter to Liebour shit when Damien Green had information that made them look like a bunch of Huhnes did it?
Good point.
They arrested him when he walked out of the zone of Parliamentary privilege and into the real world, and after all he is a member of the opposition.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6879651.ece
Baroness Scotland insisting on the use of a chauffeur driven Jaguar – as her right – because of her elevated status. All at our expense of course.
Prince Charles has seven cars, including a bentley. Are you concerned about that or is this simply another example of your parochial idiocy?
A bit of a difference between Charlie Wales and Snotty Scotty innit?
Parochial idiocy? Nah.
True, there is a difference. He is completely illegitimate in every sense of the word. She is almost completely the same, though she does have some training for office, however useless it has proven. The initial comment has nothing to do with cars, of course; it is simply another idiotic comment by a biased and one-eyed hoon.
Here’s the jug-eared one advising others to walk or take public transport. Funny how he never mentions his seven cars (all paid for by the taxpayer, of course): http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/09/prince-urges-britons-to-walk-take-public-transit.html
He bought them with his own money, anonyperp.
Diane Abbot being asked about the BBC was very funny on Adam Boulton she was not going to comment on her paymaster Alan Yentob
That is a repulsive moo; a condescending, hypocritical, ugly troughing parasite.
You could soften toffees in her folds.
It’s your money and it belongs to us and we’re going to keep it, so cut the moaning.
More evidence of Labour’s shamelessness and sense of entitlement from (surprise, surprise) Baroness Scotland:
Attorney-general Baroness Scotland demands ministerial Jaguar
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6879651.ece
Tried to publish this earlier but was modded.
Her car is all at our expense of course.
And the jaguar is much more polluting than other cars she could have used. So much for labour’s green agenda!
Come, come!
The Attorney General’s grasp of ecological concerns and Gordon’s turkeys’ pecking order is fully consistent with her appreciation of employment and immigration law.
TATa Jaguar if you don’t mind.
Give her “call me Dave”‘s bike. It not been used much.
Why would she want Samantha?
Tommy Legg is a diversion and enables the Fields and Widdicombes to witter on about retrospective rule changes. The real issue is the evasion of Capital Gains Tax by flipping. That is not “within the rules” and prosecution is required.
Legg’s couple of hundred repayment for gardening and cleaning is neither here nor there.
Of course if its the hors d’oeurve then we should be told.
Nick Griffin banned from the House Of Commons and westminister, convicted killer Lord Ahmed allowed to threaten the House of Commons with 10,000 muslims rioting if a film is shown and allowedto sit in westminister everyday.
Yes what a truly ‘democratic’ country we live in.
The Party that cannot Be Named = 1,000,000 votes = MEP’s barred from visiting the House of Commons.
ACPO = zero votes = all police officers barred from being members of the Party that cannot Be Named.
Nick Griffin was elected, I don’t remember ”Lord” Ahmed being elected.
Why weren’t the muslims outside parliament protesting against Geert Widers arrested, the video link on Old Holborn’s site clearly shows them inciting reigious and racial hatred and threatening him with murder for the offence of not liking the islamisation of europe, and encouraging democracy and free speech. If that had been the bn p simply outlining their position inspector knacker would have been all over them, instead we got a further scene from the police log of Neasden Central. Our policing is a fucking joke
Interesting insight into ne Afghan strategy!! Well worth a quick read…
http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/only-realism-can-win-us-afghanistan-conflict/
Makes sense doesn’t it.
p+k+st+n has just launched a capaign against the taliban in W+z+ristan – How are they doing it ? With a lot of air power.
Why is it that we’re not using air power that way in the afghan war – and so preventing the exposure to our troops on the ground to IED’s?
WE AGREE WITH YOU DAN AND NELL
BOMBING CIVILIANS IS THE ANSWER
WE WILL KEEP BOMBING DIRTY AFGHAN WEDDINGS
WE WILL KEEP KILLING MORE AFGHAN CHILDREN
YES, THAT WILL DEFEAT ALQAEDA, WON’T IT?
DAN AND NELL, YOU THINK LIKE US, YOU SHOULD VOTE LABOUR
WE WANT TO KEEP BOMBING PEASANTS AND SO DO YOU
WE WILL BOMB OUR WAY TO VICTORY!
LET’S DO IT!
If that’s the strategy labour is taking to the Afghan War no wonder we are losing and no wonder so many of our young troops are dying.
Collateral damage ie the bombing of civilians is not acceptable.
What is being discussed in the link above (though I doubt you have read it) is that taliban and terrorist camps be pinpointed and targetted by special services and afghan forces on the ground who can then call in accurate air strikes.
The point being that our troops on the ground aren’t gain and hold ground because of the nature of the warfare, the people they are fighting and of the terrain . In short, at the moment, they are losing the war.
And you don’t need to shout , that isn’t a very effective way of debating.
It was established at Nuremberg that each soldier is responsible for his own actions – “just obeying orders” is not an excuse for murder. Our troops are fighting an illegal war and their actions are illegal – they are as responsible as anyone for keeping this war going. This has nothing to do with patriotism.
Nell, enough with the crocodile tears already
Rick, you make an intelligent point, and I agree with you. Far too much thought is given to our ‘own’ men, when hundreds of innocent civilians are being killed in the course of an illegal war. We should pull out. In any case we will never win – it’s only a question of time.
Except in the case of self defence, war is always indefensible. How would we react to a foreign power invading our country?
Rick we are members of Nato. Af*hanistan is nothing to do with the UN.
Iraq was illegal Af*hanistan’s not.
WE READ IT NELL.
WE AGREE WITH THE WRITER WE MUST BOMB BOMB BOMB
WE AGREE WITH THE WRITER IF WE DO NOT BOMB THE AFGHANS WE WILL NOT DEFEAT ALQAEDA AND OUR STREETS WILL NOT BE SAFE
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS SAUDIN ARABIANS WHO ATTACKED AMERICA AND ALQAEDA WHO ATTACKED BRITAIN NOT THE TALIBAN
WE DO NOT AGREE THAT BY BOMBING AFGHANS WE ARE ACTING AS THE RECRUITING SERGEANT FOR THE TERRORISTS AND WE DO NOT AGREE THAT BY OCCUPYING AFGHANISTAN WE ARE DRAWING IN FOREIGN TERRORISTS WHO ARE THEN USING AFGHANISTAN AS A BASE TO ATTACK THE NEIGHBOURING NUCLEAR POWER
WE DO NOT AGREE THAT OUR PRESENCE IS DESTABILISING THE REGION
SO TO CONCLUDE: YES WE HAVE READ THE PIECE OF PROPAGANDA YOU REFERRED TO AND THE NEW LABOUR WAR PARTY ENTIRELY AGREES WITH WITH THE WRITERS PROPOSTION TO BOMB BABY BOMB OUR WAY TO VICTORY
END OF STATEMENT
Bit of a worry, it identifies all personal info. when you click. WTF?
There is white german converts and their families living in amongst the terrorists in Wariststan or whever it’s called, so when Pakistan bombs the taliban there they can parade dead white convert faces on tv for their jihadi media and propaganda war.
There is white german converts and their families living in amongst the terrorists in W*****stan or, so when P***stani bombs the ta**ban there they can parade dead white convert faces on tv for their ji**di media and propaganda war.
Waziristan, Pakistan, Taliban, jihadi. Is there a problem?
Yes there was actually. It was modded and has now appeared. We can only wonder.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221180/Biscuitgate-After-24-hours-dithering-Gordon-Brown-finally-confesses-favourite-dunk.html
I see gordon couldn’t even make his mind up about what biscuit he likes when he joined a webchat at Mumsnet.
Everyone knows Gordon likes Chocolate Fingers.
Whoever is eventually elected, I do hope their leader starts behaving like an adult Prime Minister, and refuses to participate in these childish games.
A tad harsh. It’s a difficult question. A man needs a bit of notice you know.
Me? Angel fingers.
Any biscuit covered in Chocolate will do for Gordon
Gordon only eats soggy biscuits.
Legg is providing a smokescreen for the serious expense abusers to get off examples are David Cameron’s mortgage and Darling’s flipping.
Back again, Damian?
Twas ever thus. The curtain has been lifted and all will pay.
Does any one want a ginger nut?
It is a matter of tragedy that there is not one MP who bears the surname ‘Spiggott’ to whom Sir Legg might write a suggestive letter.
I like your left leg, I have nothing against you left leg. Pity is, neither have you.
No one seems to be doing anything much to get the troughers out apart from angrier and angrier blogging.
Are there any local areas organised? It just takes a few good men (and women).
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/15/voters-smith-quit-call-115875-21748143/
Well there is a campaign in jacqui’s constituency to get her out, to pressure her into paying back the money she claimed and to stop her going to the House of Lords.
One in 600 odd. Not enough.
No but enough for her not to be re-elected.
Now the question is, is gordon going to sent her to the HoL in his end of term list? Because that would be a disgrace.
Locally that’s just peachy but we need it nationally.
No more to HoL – no Bliar, no Smith, no Brown.
Get rid of the Lords asap so no more Archer, Martin and the rest or ermine arsed spooners.
Can’t recall where I read this, but I’m sure someone said recently that any member of the public can make a complaint at any police station if they suspect a fraud has been committed.
Worth a try, perhaps?
..and imagine the reaction of the desk clerk.
Cicero.
Where I live it is an achievement to find a police station that is manned.
“Manned” is not an approved word, take yourself to the Local Police Station and report yourself for sexist language.
Sad but true
“Where I live it is an achievement to find a police station that is manned.”
You should come to our neck of the woods ducky.
We’ll be right over dear.
We’re losing the battle, throughout the media the idea that by applying the green book rules in a reasonable way Legg has changed the rules retrospectively and unfairly is taking hold.
OK so why is Legg changing the rules retrospectively unfair, yet Parliament taxing us all retrospectively is perfectly OK?
Poor lambs. This way to the charnel house sweeties.
This MP baiting is getting out of hand, the public outrage we hear so much about is being whipped up by the media, whilst the national debt grows by the minute. MP’s are supposed to be a reflection of the electorate and I believe they are. My daughter has just started at a local 6th form college after attending a fee-paying school, likewise 3 of her school friends who are now all claiming EMA (educational maintenance allowance). In other words last year they were paying school fees but now they are suddenly so poor they qualify for EMA (divorced parents). In other words the outraged public will also claim allowances or benefits if they can, not out of need but just because they are available. I am no great fan of Jacqui Smith but she was entitled to some of the allowances she claimed as she did incur extra costs having to live in 2 locations, so she shouldn’t have to pay all the £116,000 back. In the private sector if you incur extra expense in the course of doing your job then you expect to be reimbursed. This media hysteria would have them all living gutter. Those who have deviously manipulated the system to their own advantage are the ones who should be called to account. Jacqui Smith only owns one property and therefore her expenses misdemeanours are really small fry.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/15/voters-smith-quit-call-115875-21748143/
Her constituents don’t agree with you.
And £116,000 for claiming that her sister’s box room was her main home is not reasonable by any standards and even less so when this claim was made by the Home Secretary who was supposed to be upholding standards in law and order.
They don’t agree with me because they judgement is not rational but has been whipped up by the media frenzy. They probably all believe that Sir Peter Viggers received money for his infamous Duck House. Infact his claim was refused but it doesn’t suit the newspapers to emphasise this fact. I rest my case. Public opinion has been formulated on sensationalism. There are more important things to get so angry about.
No disrespect but the fact that any MP should think that they can claim for a duck house on their expenses is quite scandalous.
The furore over MP’s expenses cannot be excused by saying that it has been caused by a media frenzy – the population at large is not daft – it is quite clear looking at mp’s actual expenses, which are now in the public domain ( after MP’s fought to keep them secret) that they have troughed unacceptably.
And now they must pay the price. They must pay back what they were not entitled to claim. They must pay taxes and CGT on profit made by flipping houses.(And by the by I think they should also have to pay back the profit they made on the sale of those houses as well). They must face police enquiries where they have committed outright fraud. And they must finally face the electorate with their whole expenses record available for public scrutiny.
They are completely disgraced – many will run away before the next GE and some will try to brazen it out only to be voted out by an outraged public.
The gutter is where they belong
Pay the small fry back then and move on – err away- err fuck off. No passing go and no bloody gong.
Fagen and Becker have it thus:
“Throw back the little ones
And pan-fry the big ones
Use tact, poise and reason
And gently squeeze them.”
Really? She was entitled to grace and favour accommodation which she chose not to use. I wonder why, could it be that woujld have prevented her swagging 116,000 from the taxpayer? You still don ‘t address the question of her lying about her main resdidence, or how her sisyer’s box room qualifies as residence costing 116,000 pounds.
You equate three of your friends claiming EMA with 646 MPs claiming for non-existant motgages, MPs using public money to run a property portfolio. Are you serious? Even those who have not made fraudulent claims must have been aware of what was going on. And the man mainly responsible for this; why, elevation to the house of lords.
My my, if that is the case I don’t envy you your circle of aquaintances since that would make them all crooked, avaricious, dishonest, self serving , venal scum bags.
“All whipped up bt the media” same old excuse from New Labour, it’s all the media’s fault.
I agree that she shouldn’t have claimed her main residence was her sister’s flat but my point is that she would have been entitled to some additional costs irrespective of this. Meanwhile Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling had ‘grace and favour’ homes and claimed second homes allowance, on top of which Darling flipped designation of homes he didn’t even need to use, and got the taxpayer to foot the bill for his tax return being done by a professional. Smith is a convenient smokescreen for the real so-called troughers. She is the Derek Conway of the Labour Party. And how about turning one’s attention to the abuse of public money that goes on at the BBC? Don’t suppose there will be a media frenzy about that one.
And how about turning one’s attention to the abuse of public money that goes on at the BBC?
Now there you have my full agreement, but the wrongdoings of Jackie Smith are not lessened by the “flipping” etc. of Darling and Brown. Let us not also forget the lies and the smear attempt on her neighbours, for which she has yet to apologise. We could also reflect on her failure to pay back any of the money she has apolgised for taking.
The Derek Conway of the Labour party? She still has the party whip, but like him, and the rest of the troughers, she should have resigned with immediate effect. Instead of hanging on like grim death to reap more undesereved reward.
Well, no. She could have lived free in a ‘grace and favour’ home in London. She wouldn’t have got £116,000 for that, however…
Hang on that’s a tory line.
It’s anyone who dares to criticise’s fault.
Jackboots didn’t “live” in two locations.
She pretend-squatted in her sister’s broom cupboard so she could suck the taxpayers’ teat. While in London she could and should have lived in her taxpayer-funded grace and favour mansion as befits the high office of Home Secretary. That she did not confirms her sole aim was gouging public funds.
Punish and imprison her.
And while we’re in crime and punishment mode, two Baronesters – lying Scotchland and marble-mansions, illiterate Uddin need a similar sharp lesson in public anger.
I, for one, would be very happy to see the taxpayer continue to fund Jacqui Smith`s accomodation.
At HMP Holloway.
Why is the taxpayer paying Dave’s mortgage for the mansion he owns in his constituency?
By no stretch of the imagination does he need a property that size to perform his parliamentary duties.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221192/Peter-Mandelson-urged-drop-Gordon-Brown-secret-talks.html
The Labour Party is in ferment and mp’s have approached mandy to tell gordon he has to go.
I hope he doesn’t – I want gordon to have to fight the next election. Then we’ll see the electorate deliver a verdict on his disastrous leadership and corrupt party.
Perhaps then he’ll be able to get his over bloated ego into perspective.
I hope you are not suggesting that New Laboour is the only corrupt party, seems to me the whole of Westminster is up to it’s neck in corruption.
Skippy I think you are being a bit unrealistic here. It is undoubtedly the case that many, too many, MP’s have shown themselves to be arrogant greedy money grabbers, but to suggest that Westminster is up to its neck in corruption is a vast exaggeration.
This kind of behaviour is basic to human nature, I’m afraid. We’ve all done it, to a degree. Some of us never get further than taking home a couple of pencils for the kids, others manage to acquire an old printer that has been replaced, then some wrangle paid-for visits near a convenient spot, claim for an hotel but stay at their daughter’s house.
Not correct, any of it, but let’s not be holier than though about it. What is galling, of course, is the pompous, sanctimonious claptrap used to justify this kind of behaviour.
Has any MP actally put his hand up and said something along the lines of:’ Yes, thinking about it, it was a bit off. But it was there for the taking and didn’t seem a big deal at the time. Still, poor form in retrospect and I let my standards slip. Apologies, he’s the money back and I am well rebuked’?
Well Sir Reginald Titbrain, my point was that this scandal is not confined to one party, or indeed, one particular house, in fact the HoL has recently inherited a crook from the HoC, that seems to me to be taking re-cycling to an unacceptable level.
Those who have not been found wanting in the expenses department, have not only conspired to keep expenses secret, but have remained silent about the widespread corruption about which they must have known. Their silence makes them all accessories in this matter.
Hence my assertion the whole of Westminster is up to its neck in sleaze, none of them is innocent
many of the mps used accountants to fiddle their expenses.
i am not an expert in that area but i am sure that some time ago ALL accountants had to sign a charter of some kind-pushed thriugh by the nazi state- that they had to report ANYONE they suspected of undertaking fraudulent activities to the tax authorities.
if they did not then they would incur massive fines and even imprisonment.
so why were none of the pigs reported?
why are there such draconian rules for accountants and not for mps-the ones that make the rules?
and why do only 53 % of people only think that jacqui should be prosecuted?
stealing thousands of pounds,wasting police time and money with extra guards and lying through her teeth in the house while her husband wanks himself off? paid for by us!!!!!!!!
she is 100% guilty……….
as are the others that ‘didin’t understand the rules’……
if they are so thick then they should not be in the hoc.
exacatly the top of society is in cahoots, all of them are in it together.
where are all the mps that were going to kill themselves?
they even lied about that!
They are the lowest of the low, will say or do anything for sympathy and just to stay at the trough.
Sourcing cyanide proved quite easy. Grape Kool Aid however, proved insurmountably difficult. If one of them had mentioned the fact, I’m sure we’d have had a container load here toot sweet.
Was it on, Have I got news for you, Jaquie Smith in the House Of Lords but claiming her main seat is in the House of Commons. Ex-cabinet M.P.s elected to HoL as a matter of divine right I.E Michael Martin.
Wilkes and Liberty; You Sir! will die of the pox or at the gibbet,…. That sir! would depend on whether I embraced your mistress or your politics!
BROWN RESIGNS++HEALTH REASONS CITED++JOHNSON TO TAKE OVER WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT++STATEMENT TO BE MADE TO COMMONS ON MONDAY++
If only it were true. Johnson has shown himself up to be a weak, lilly livered, spineless trougher
BROWN RESIGNS++HEALTH REASONS CITED++IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO TAKES OVER EVEN THAT BIRD IN THE FUCKING WHEELCHAIR WOULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN THE FUCKING JONAH!++ BIRD IN WHEELCHAIR TO TAKE OVER WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT++STATEMENT TO BE MADE TO COMMONS ON MONDAY++
Yes, but most labour voters are in the “I luv labour, me, but I don’t want to vote for that gordon brown ‘cos he was tony’s mate and he spent money on those rich bankers” category.
Switching leader to johnson would be a disaster for the tories because it’d make a lot of the labour vote come out and vote labour who otherwise would have stayed at home.
You have to remember that labour voters are fantastically stupid (by definition; who with any sense would vote for a party whose economic policies are unsustainable, are 100% guaranteed to create national bankruptcy, and which defy all logic, reason, and common sense?) – don’t use logic/reason when it comes to working out how many people should vote for them; use twisted labour-style illogical stupidity to work out how many of the mind-numbingly stupid labour voters will bother to turn up on polling day.
I only hope that regardless of what happens, enough tory voters turn up to outweigh the established labour voters, and that swing-voters’ apathy is outweighed by their wish to annihiliate labour this time round.
There’ll always be around 25 to 30% of labour vote, regardless of what labour do/say, because their core vote is around that size (ie the unemployed and union members). The labour vote will never go below 25% even if they said they’d murder everyone who earns over 15grand/year and initiate martial law, so it’s up to everyone to encourage the other 75% to turn up and vote.
oooh, you tease…
actually, if that were true, if would be the worst possible news, because there are still a large number of morons who’d vote labour if johnson was leader that wouldn’t vote if brown was leader.
ie a lot of people mistakenly think that labour would do a great job if only brown wasn’t in charge; if johnson was leader then they’d probably still lose the election but it’d be a much closer thing due to the amount of morons around who are allowed to vote, and labour would therefore still be able to block a lot of legislation following an election.
the theoretical news headline you mention is my worst nightmare; they’d still wait until june 2010 before an election, and it’d be a much closer-call when it comes.
The best headline would be:
“Brown stays and announces immediate election”
Or in the Shanghai Times
” Blouwn lifts small boy from poverty and announces immediate erection”
Actually, the best headline would be:
Brown falls off a cliff and smashes his head to pieces on the rocks below. Jacqui Smith becomes leader of the labour party and announces an immediate general election, saying “vote for us because I want your money to pay for my new conservatory that I’m planning in time for xmas”
BBC says: Brown when pressed admitted liking for chocolate biscuits on twitter, the great biscuit debate, what a hob-knob.
BROWN MAKES DECISION++HOBNOBS++IT’S A FUCKING MIRACLE++
A DECISION FROM THE DITHERER WHILE TROOPS DIE FOR NO REASON++BROWN LIKES HOBNOBS++BREAKING NEWS++WHAT A C’UNT
He’s fucking crackers!
said the stark raving lunatic.
Jammy Dodgers.
said gary the tea lady.
Why thank you Prof. Thieves. Still eating the wallpaper yourself?
Hey tat, it’s about time you retired mate. Your work here is done, and we’ve heard it all before. I say work, but you’re on Incapacity Benefit aren’t you? Anyway, treat yourself to some pipe and slippers, you know, the type that lezzas wear when they’re off duty. Pick a colour that would go well with your grey, piss stained tracksuit. A pinky puke colour would be great.
fergal, you’re a nobody.
fuck off nobody.
thanks.
No, I’m mr nobody, so you fuck off.
ah, yes, troops dying; I’ll tell you what made me more mad than anything else during PMQs this week….
It was gordon brown standing their spending 3 minutes reeling off 37 names purely to make it so that it’d look bad if the tories tried to score political points about anything later on during PMQs. What made it particularly bad for me was that the only reason there was such a large number of names instead of the normal 5 or so was because the MPs were on holiday for so fucking long.
Sitting back on your tax-payer-funded holidays, watching the count of the dead rack up to massive levels, and then coming back after a ridiculous amount of time and saying “oh, did some people die? Sorry, I didn’t notice that, I was too busy sitting on my arse and doing fuck all for 3 months. what a shame. maybe we should do something about that sometime”
Shouldn’t that be ‘what a chump’ …..in Mandelspeak
It Took Four Advisors TREE DAYS To Come Up With Hobnobs !
Labour Is Working !
Kelly introduces new expenses regime.
Ha,Ha, did not include, free mortgage on house, £250 pounds a week for food, all travel expenses paid and luxury accommodation to destination of your choice (fact finding mission), pot of wisteria, Goblin teasmade, Gobbling teasmaid etc,etc.
‘Gobbling teasmaid’! that will be baroness scotland then?.
Gobbling-tease-maid? les?
http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/french-farmers-protest-over-price-fall-3080474
find some balls rosbifs!!!!!
Not sufficiently large numbers of farmers here for that to happen here. We’re efficient you see,lots of big farmers doing OK, unlike the French who have many small farmers trying to eke out a living and require high prices to survive – vive le CAP.
I agree though, a bit of direct action on almost any front might wake up those indolent, self satisfied, lazy bastards in Whitehall, although whether the resulting action from this sorry bunch would constitute an improvement is not a certainty.
Oh yes farming.
The last remnant of the economy subsidised by the taxpayer.
Protected markets.
Guaranteed prices.
And straightforward cash subsidies (which can be taken in euros, so you’re quids in if the £ falls).
Find all the mucky details here:-
http://farmsubsidy.org/GB
Billy Hayes’ balls have been confited in pork pie fat
and can now be bought for 79p at your local Asda.
So why was the PM so reluctant to reveal his favourite biccie?
Was it a desire to remain above a debate which has raged since the invention of elevenses, and which divides the UK more than religion, race or political opinion?
After all, wars have been fought on far flimsier grounds than whether or not a Jaffa Cake IS in fact a biscuit.
Or perhaps the PM didn’t wish to intervene in a notoriously competitive marketplace – light-touch regulation, free market economics, and all that?
I’m afraid the truth is rather more mundane.
My source in Number Ten tells me that the PM’s favourite is the chocolate-covered Kit Kat.
Which, of course, is advertised with the slogan “Have A Break”
http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco/Post:4a466b84-ded7-4a39-8d72-97f3895ec434
More like “A finger of fudge”
He needs a break in every bone of his lumpy, malformed body.
I’d thought Brown was more a Crackers type
McRuin assumed it was a trick question, and that he was about to ambushed again. He could recall that t’Bliar spoke to the WI and got slow-hand clapped. It was a difficult 24 hours persuading him that biscuits were biscuits.
Somebody put this dopey cow out of her misery, FFS. It must be a living hell to be so fucking retarded.
A Prime example of what this country has become under Labour
” A Country fit for halfwits”
Absolutely, all carefully managed, replacing real exams with tractor stats and diversity courses until people are so stupid that even an ignoramus like me looks set to be President.
She has even warranted the Regal Purple, a backdrop only for on-message toadies. If she has said Brown is a total arse she would be standing in front of schizophrenia inducing imagery.
Lord Mandy is at his wits end, again.
Fiona Phillips demonstrating why it would be a good idea to vote Tory.
What a complete, unutterably, stupid, sycophantic tit.
When I saw that I felt embarrassed for her. I half-expected her to whip her tits out for him.
I love you 5pedo shorts and Mr Draper can one of you give me a job.
At a time when many of us are struggling with day to day expence there should have been a moral thought in just one of these MP’s heads that would make them think we should back off a little and show a moral lead in their own constituance. My local MP Charles Walker, Tory was given a clean bill of health from Legg this week and was no suprise as this honourable member had disclosed his expences online for quite some time before the DT made it’s revalations 6 months ago and there are many others of equal standing to Mr. Walker who should be supported right now, while the ponces should be villyfied prosecuted and ultimately expelled!! it will be interesting who will be left in Parliament by June 2010! By the way 72,000 do not want to see this bloke around then http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/ but please give credit to the good constituancy focused MP’s like Mr. Walker here;
I want an erection
The Chinese community are sick of Labours limp policies and that arsehole bandit Baron Fondlebum
In my country we would remove his trouser snake and turn it into soup
(would probabably cause gayness so wouldnt drink it)
We need an erection NOW
Stick a firclacker up the pirrocks lectum.
never mind your erection , what about my fucking flied lice you squinty eyed whale eating bastard
You can forget the old divisions between Labour, Tory, Liberal and the like. Those who cleave to such outdated anachronisms merely advertise their ignorance. It’s way, way beyond the old divisions now. The whole system is marked by filth and lies. Can you expect anything else in a country where the people know nothing of the machinations of government, where, despite what the people might believe, they have no say at all? Here, in this opaque and sinister world, where the cheats who have got to the top of the pile skulk around like cockroaches, where the good old boy network provides endlessly, and where crimes such as corruption are actively tolerated, the deferential and fawning populace allows it to continue without a whimper.
The answers are all very obvious, of course, but, hey, let’s keep people in thrall to the parochialism of the outdated parties they currently support. That way they think they will be actively involved … It’s desperate, I know, but people actually believe it.
Not to worry. If all else fails, Britain has an unelected, unqualified, unanswerable trougher of incalcuable amounts to which we can turn. Elizabeth Saxe-Coburn: qualification for office: DNA.
Still think you are living in a democracy?
James Saxe Coburn dynasty. I could live with that!
My apologies: Coburg is the name–and troughing is still the game.
Democracy? When did we ever have one of those?
That’s D, post spot on.
Has she lost a barrel recently? Good subject that I am, I was taught it was Saxe-Coberg-Gotha.
Well if we lived in a total democracy then we’d have to have a President wouldn’t we?
And who would we get to do that?
Ah! I see bliar saying well I’d be prepared to give up my bid for the EUSSR presidency just to do ya’all a favour. And my ‘charming’ wife would be happy to remodel buck house and windsor castle so that we could entertain in the manner to which we are accusustomed.
Of course we’d need more money than her maj has – couldn’t possibly live on such a pittance.
Then and again we could always elect prezza and pauline – they’d make a really good front for Britain.
Or how about the Kinnocks? – now they’d make real inroads into serious piles of cash.
Well, at least you recognise that we don’t live in a democracy. On the other hand, France, USA et al seem to do okay with a president. How do you get a president? You elect one, believe it or not. You give the people an opportunity to vote on who that might be and how etc. It’s radical, it’s wild, this idea of giving the citizens an opportunity to share in the power.
Tell me how the “Royal” family is anything other than an affront to democracy.
The idea that a president would cost more than the monarchy currently does is as preposterous a claim as I have ever heard. Do you know how much the Windsors trough off this country per year?
Additionally, if your only defence of the Windsors is that they cost less than any alternative (a patently false claim) then you are an opponent of democracy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1221130/My-greedy-fellow-MPs-pay-shut-says-whistleblower-John-Mann.html
I do believe I’ve found an honest MP. John Mann Labour.
He has written this article – an insiders view of the expenses scandal.
Just look how badly he has been treated by MP’s who want to keep their troughing gains and hide what they do from the press and the public.
He donated the fee he got from the Daily Mail for writing this article to the charity Help for Heroes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6365019/MPs-expenses-Peers-facing-calls-for-full-audit-of-claims.html
And now the Taxpayers Alliance is calling for the Peers expenses to be included for scrutiny in the Legg audit.
Yes. Exactly. That’s precisely what must happen. Why should MP’s be publicly audited but not the Peers?
The fingers of socialism are spreading far under Labour, poisoning both houses now.
Because we are better than you of course.
He must be trying to protect a slim majority, or a deeper, still hidden, troughing misdemeanor.
Well you are right about his majority. I’ve just checked. It’s less than Jacqui’s.
His is a very slim 1500 and he will be very lucky to survive the expected swing in the polls.
All the same he does appear to have supported transparency of expenses long before they did finally become public.
Too late nell. He’s Labour, and he’s still on the piano wire list. BTW, how can we be sure that the only reason he hasn’t over claimed is that he’s a total thicko?
Trouble is , in the public eye now, they are all ‘tarred with the same brush’.
What damage they have done to themselves and Parliament by their , and Michael Martin’s disgraceful,expensive attempts to keep their expenses a secret.
Bliar and broon policies –
devolution – not exactly a success
reform House of Lords – OMG what a shambles they’ve left us
reform MP’s expenses rather than giving them a wage rise – well that one has really come home to roost
war in iraq – on a lie
war in afghanistan – not sure there’s a case for us to be there
reform the welfare state – yep – more troughers on welfare now than ever before
reform education – well ed b did get £3million to spend in his state of the art offices with it’s gym and swimming pool.
advancement of the EUSSR – tone and his ‘unlovely mega troughing ‘wife as president and first lady of the EU.
reform immigration – enough said
reduce crime – have they?
What a ‘glorious’ record Labour are leaving us after 12 years in power.
Having said all that I still think John Mann might be a bit of a saint.
John Mann talks a lot of good sense. His confederates of course don’t like him.
Tha’ polls are swinging ma’ way agin’ , – an’ tha’ Tory Toffs, tha’ twatty twerps in tha’ tall towers – wi’ soon be dancin’ to ma’ tune agin.
Ye can’ae beat me – an’ nuthn’s ma’ fult ye un’stn!
Shit ne’er sticks tae ma’ blanket!!!
Is yer name – Goldman or Sachs?
The movement is within the margin of error, so don’t wet yourself yet mutha fucka’.
Ooops….too late.
Love the way Pillock has thrown his weight behind Harpic. In the MOS he calls her
“La pasionara.”
This would be the same Pillock who, of course, never got enough votes to become PM, but there is hope yet, please please support her and let her become labour leader, thus guaranteeing that no working class male votes for her, and judging by what I have heard women say about her, the female vote will probably stay at home too.
“In a passionate tribute last week, Lord Kinnock condemned Labour figures for ‘bitching’ against her.
‘La Pasionaria of Peckham’ – a reference to heroine Dolores Ibarruri, known as La Pasionaria, or passion flower, for her defence of the Republic in the Spanish Civil War, and famous for her battle cry of ‘No pasaran!’ – They shall not pass.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221192/Peter-Mandelson-urged-drop-Gordon-Brown-secret-talks.html#ixzz0UIUR1zlD
I don’t think many thinking women would vote for her either. Her shrill tone and smug attitude are quite off putting.
But I shall be disappointed if gordon doesn’t lead them into the next election.
Having been PM he should at least face the electorate once to hear their verdict on his record in office.
You only have to see her hectoring, patronising school marm style on Question Time, Nell, to see what an electoral liability she would be. She is one of those politicians who people cannot and will not warm to. All the more reason to put her in charge should Gordy be pensioned off.
My Nell you have a “wicked streak” in you! Brown must face electorate at least once you say…………..Ha,ha,ha, maybe “not on your Nelly”, please take pity on the British public and “let him go quietly into that good night”, a little Dylan Thomas there methinks.
Hi Lizzie –
He’s stolen our pensions, devalued our investments and hit us with more hidden taxes than I can count – I don’t want him to ‘go into a good night’
I want him to face up to what he’s done and, like a man, take our electoral verdict on his time in office as chancellor and pm , on the chin.
Shakespeare said
There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which taken at the flood, leads onto fortune
Omitted, the voyage of their life, is bound in shallows and in misery.
That is dithering gordon to a T.
Nell I believe you need the “sword of Damocles” for Brown. Or we could have the “night of the long knives” yet!
How many times did they try to assassinate Hitler, in the end he supposedly he “did himself in”.
Brown knows he is not liked by the public that is why he asked Sarah to introduce him at his party conference, to make him appear human.
Not a good move. He is a “cuckoo in the No 10 nest” he may go on his own or he may be removed, the decision lies with His Lord high and mighty and everything else Mandelson at the end of the day.
“et tu brute?”
brute being mandy.
The papers are saying of mandy today that he doesn’t want to be seen as the assassin even though several senior members of government have approached him and asked him to tell gordon to go.
What life must be like behind the scenes of this collapsing labour government at the moment!!!!
I’ve just watched Neil/Harridperson on i-player.
That should be linked to and embedded as often as possible. Tells you all you need to know about the excrescence of which Harriet is soooooo proud.
You’ve been redacted. Hahahahahhahahahahhahah…
The MPs’ deficit is not financial.
It’s moral.
Is that you s p e d o you twat ?
At the end of the day “the Big Broom” will be needed in halls of Westminster, it’s called a general election, and let the people decide who goes and who stays…..it’s only fair!
Poor old damian that school job must be really boring after working in the manic atmosphere of no10 drowning street.
I just want to thank all you H O O N S for voting me in in the first place.
Who would ‘of’ thort that it would lead to this?
But hey, – trust me – I’m a
shadysteady kinda guy!Ober Fuhrer J. Boot, says
and I would like to thank voters for my sitzenbathenpluggenholenfiller plugenundlplayundpleasuren technisenthingy.
A tactical masterstroke by Labour in Scotland – recruiting the Orange Order to “boost” their vote!
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Orange-Order-mobilise-to-defend.5743358.jp
John Reid will be happy to explain this to the tottie-munching hordes at Parkhead, obviously …
The people of Ulster are not British, says Labour”
“People living in Northern Ireland are not British subjects, the Labour Party said in legal papers obtained yesterday by The Telegraph.”
“the Labour Party’s solicitors, told the CRE: “People resident in Northern Ireland are not British subjects or citizens of Eire and are not resident in Great Britain for more than one year and are therefore ineligible for membership.”"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1420726/The-people-of-Ulster-are-not-British-says-Labour.html
Why’s that eh labour cause we won’t fucking vote for you? you peices of shit.
This reminds me of a survey our local council are asking people to fill in.
At the end, you have to tick a box for your ethnicity. What interested me is that, according to them, ‘English, Welsh, Scottish, N. Irish’ was one ethnicity, but ‘Irish’ was another.
Now, surely that is a political distinction, not an ethnic one? Pre 1923 or whenever, Ireland was all one country. And the ‘Scotti’ were of Irish ancestry initially, anyhow.
WTF?
You do NOT have to tick any boxes which ask intrusive and IMV racist questions.
You are a British citizen, council tax-payer and a resident of the borough and that is all the information they need to know.
I get the feeling that this morally defunct bunch of troughing MP’s of all colours are going to be in self denial right up to the time the GE results are announced.
And then, when they find they have been kicked out of office by the electorate, they are going to turn around and say – ‘How ungrateful people are. We gave our everything for this pittance of an MP’s salary. Look how they repay us’
Of course, at the same time, people like mmoran and georgiegall+way and alndncan will be retiring to their foreign villas/expensive foreign holidays to recuperate from the shock of rejection.
You may be right about the other but I fear, Nell, that alndncan will get re-elected – Rutland is maybe the smallest County in England but it is one of THE Fox-Hunting Shires of England – and prime millionaire territory with £1M+ houses and country estates and private schools in Uppingham and Oakham so is therefore prime Tory Blue through and through and always has been and always will be – it is the equivalent of the Labour heartlands North – they weigh the Tory Vote rather than count it !!
Well I think I’m right in saying that there is some sort of Independents organisation which has been set up Martin Bell to help potential Independent MP’s fight the next GE and that it has particularly targetted AlnDncan and Mr Vaz’s constituencies.
I guess Tat would know more about that than me.
This is start. Martin Bell is well placed to start a cross party collection of what is left of the decent HoC members. Left Right and Centre makes no difference. These are really bad times. Only the clean ones can stand and any new intake. Lose the rest – chucked out, no pension or further payment.
Perfect world eh!
John Baron is my local MP.
I read about his expenses in Sept in the Echo myself.
John has been arrogant refusing to explain. BUT his second house doubles as his constiuency office so he does save expenses that way. That said as a resident I think we deserve a full accounting. Now I have had dealings with John over the years and I consider him an excellent contituency MP. Sadly though I will no longer be voting for him due to my utter dislike of Cameron. I remain a natural tory but will vote UKIP. I wish John well though as I say he’s a decent bloke. To the best of my knowledge and belief.
Better check out what a new boy can do for you…UKIP! enlightening. I don’t think a personal dislike of Cameron would turn me to voting for UKIP anytime soon, but everyone to their own I suppose! The old adage, be careful what you wich for.
UKIP are electing their leadership and I’m voting UKIP unless Dave serves us a referendum.
Could that perhaps be a threat!
Czech President is in the process of signing. The Lisbon Treaty is about to be ratified.
Question now exercising cameron has to be ‘what can I hold a referendum on?’
I await his answer to this conundrum with much interest.
I am into free speech;
Well have you Mr. Brown?
Drat, meant the Hacker EEC skit.
Apologies all round………
One more go…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Xvy1r4Pm8
Thank you Admiral. So true, so true
And In Other News:
The DT yesterday re-ran this very old story of MEPs employing their wives.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6347266/British-MEPs-exploit-loophole-to-pay-relatives-to-work-for-them.html&ct=ga&cd=c2KkPLrAMqo&usg=AFQjCNHOVd6904qgnS-ka5AjpW29TCT28g
Of course in the case of Naughty Nige and at least one of the Tories named, they may have their wives slaving over a hot typewriter but they sub-contract their bedroom activities elsewhere…
I know who you mean, and it isn’t Chichester this time.
http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3093/comment-page-1
Yvonne Joyce Fletcher
Lockerbie, Just…
Yes it seems that way esp when it is claimed they knew WPC fletchers murderer 20+ years ago, diplomatic imuninty I guess?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6877329.ece
Brown’s government knows the name of the two libyans in the embassy who are responsible for her death.
Brown’s government is sending our police officers to Libya to train their police forces.
We are providing their police forces with vehicles and weapons to repress their population.
And yet brown fails to act to get extradition of these two libyans to Britain so that they can stand trial. Funny I thought brown brought in an extradition treaty with Libya that worked two ways . Wasn’t that how Al Megrahi – y’know that libyan that only had days to live, was extradited to his own country? Oh no I forgot – that was scotland’s fault.
John Major’s government knew the names of the perpetrators too. But, because they are Tories no doubt, you’ve forgot to mention that. You are blind to anything the Tories have done and will do.
Flip that house, George! 50k for the boys! Wipem Yas!
Used to think Field was ok,not anymore.
Just like the rest of them no morals,rip off merchants the lot of them.
Yes Nell, Mandelson will be “brute” in the end and the end is nigh. Labour Rome is going to burn.
Evey MP that does,nt restand, will be given a golden paarachute, plus other goodies to go home with.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/andrew-grice/andrew-grice-he-meant-to-open-fire-on-the-tories-instead-brown-shot-his-own-troops-1804345.html
I like this piece by the Independent. It nicely sums up gordon’s ineptitude and unsuitability for the job of PM.
“He meant to open fire on the tories. Instead brown shot his own troops”
Yes, I also like it. Brown wrong man for the moment always.
Brown needs stringing up by the epididymis
Well , well, well . St. Frank of the Field has been troughing with the best of them ……..
Lord f…..g miners has threatened the postal workers. Who the hell rattled his cage?
The grasping no good managers including that low life crozier have made absolutely no effort to solve the problem by negotiating with the workers.
The management are to blame because they are in charge, but of course they’ve not the slightest interest in doing that, they want to privatise come what may, probably done some nefarious deal with somebody or other already.
As usual an unelected member of the Ho Lords is the government’s representative!
Don’t you sense mandy’s hand in this?
Another pus-faced Blair plant, Crozier.
Yes but now he’s mandy’s man.
Ooh nell, you are awful….
Sky News :Blunkett Is Very Disappointed That Nick Griffin Is Going On Question Time ! Simple David ,Dont Watch It !
Someone should inform him he has nothing to worry about, he’s white.
But He Doesn’t Know That !
Well done young Button – and Ross Brawn. See what happens when the curséd one hasn’t got your number?
Posters will notice that The Scottish Sunday Herald article has no (0, zero, none, zilch) comments . If you look for comments on any of the articles in this newspaper you will not find them. This is because the Sunday Herald and its weekly sister paper The Herald removed the facility for placing comments some time ago. There has been no explanation why they have done this so the only conclusion one can come to is that they are suppressing freedom of speech because of the political situation that exists in Scotland (i.e. The rise of the SNP).
I don’t know of any other newspaper that would do this!
The same paper carries a piece that the Tories think so much of their only Scottish MP, a non Etonian oik called Mundell, that ‘Call me Dave’ is going to ennoble one of the Scottish Tory chaps from Eton to be Secretary of State for Scotland…. arise Lord Ferguson of Patna?
Just shows the mess the UK (aka English) main parties are in when it comes to dealing with Wee Eck of the SNP.
Devolution will kills the SNP dead in their tracks say the Tories and Labour… aye that’s right enough, eh?
Troops Dying Is Ok !
Gordon Cuts £20,000,000 From The TA ! But Its Ok
Because He Announced He’s Giving £42,000,000 To The Arts
fuck parliamentary privilege! The game’s over boys, it was nice while it lasted. You sound 100 years out of date.
I agree
The last time I said something similar a very senior Partner from the Queens’s solicitors described me openely to one and all at a rather grand social event “oh, you’re one of those”!
Bloody cheek.
Why do intelligent people allow themselves to be conned into supporting this outdated feudal bs?
Presume they are all in the same Lodge.
“Jack Straw tried to conceal expense revelations. Wonder why?”
Nick Griffin.
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