October 16th, 2009

Last Night at the Opera

tristan-und-isolde-royal-opera-houseOvert Opera fan Nick Brown, the government Chief Whip, was well placed last night at the Royal Opera House in the front row of the stalls circle before 5 pm (yes thats when it started) for the new production of Tristan und Isolde. He was in a party with lobbyist Peter Bingle of  spin merchants Bell Pottinger.  Perhaps Gordon should have cause to worry that his Chief Henchman was watching a tale of the betrayal of King Marke by Tristan and Isolde in the company of a Conservative enemy.

George Osborne and his wife were sitting in the stalls on their own, presumably having paid for their own tickets.  At four hours and fifty five minutes Guido would have paid not to attend…


295 Comments

  1. 1

    Funny how these NuLabor types develop a taste for the “better” things in life when they get into power?
    Meanwhile back at the old falling apart community centre it was bingo again for the serfs.

    • 6
      chomping at the bit says:

      Full price tickets or ‘subsidized’?

    • 46
      Politics of envy says:

      It is Boy George one should feel for, yet again he has been outclassed by a Labour politician.

    • 75
      Thats News says:

      Champagne Socialists. In the late 19th and early 20th century, Trade Union leaders were known as the Top-hatted Trade Unionists, as they aped the fashions and attitudes of the employers.

      And there were stories that the trade unionists in the 1970s hated Harold Wilson’s beer and sandwich meetings at No. 10. They wanted fine wines and ‘proper’ foods.

    • 127
      Red Rum says:

      Why should enjoying culture be seen as the “better” things in life? Perhaps we lefty types should be only allowed to watch ITV and drink warm beer? No no, mustn’t be allowed to go to the Royal Opera House – get ideas above our station, eh?

    • 148
      Pass the fois gras cappucino says:

      I think you’ll find, in their analysis, that “fine living” is actually a revolutionary act

    • 151
      Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

      Nach unser fassade Fuehrer Gordon Brown!

      • 210
        DVD rip says:

        Yikes, they could have just left the original German language, instead of dragging the poorly translated Polish language on top of the German speech.

    • 239
      Princess Polytwaddle, a pofaced, pontificating prick, talking down at people from her ivory tower says:

      Oh – us champagne sociashitists deserve that and more.

      After all – where would ‘people’ be without us experts to instruct them?

      It’s becos we’re worth it.

      Now where is my burqa – so men don’t lust after me?

      Did I tell you that I had another one of those multiple paroxysms over Gorgon last night? All I have to do is think of Him and it starts.

    • 272
      A Friend says:

      Having known Nick many years ago at university in Manchester, when he was merely a political animal rather than a Labour one, I can well remember finding him stark naked in a flat in Longsight, pissed out of his head, standing on his bed conducting Wagner’s Ring.

      His other ‘obsession’ was the music of Ennio Morricone who provided the soundtrack for spaghetti westerns.

  2. 2
    Curious of Twickenham says:

    Does George take a booster cushion to sit on?

  3. 3

    Gordon’s waiting for Götterdämmerung

    • 16
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      The Opera of choice for saviours of the world

      • 123
        Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until that c'nt brown calls the General Election says:

        I can’t listen to Wagner, it makes me want to invade Poland.

        (Woody Allen – Manhattan Murder Mystery)

  4. 4
    Trinny says:

    No-one actually *likes* opera.

  5. 5
    Igocanon Jerk says:

    The Arts can be quite enspiring and educational. William Shakespeaker was a well known political analysist and speech writer.

  6. 10
    Abergavenny is in Wales says:

    Hmmmmm Why is Bingle throwing good money away on Nick Brown? What’s this all about then?

  7. 17
    Otis B. Driftwood says:

    Brown (N) & Bingle discussing a new contract for the Labour Party for McMental……

    Bingle: “It’s all right. That’s, that’s in every contract. That’s, that’s what they call a sanity clause.”
    Brown: “Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! You can’t fool me. There ain’t no Sanity Clause!”

  8. 19
    Miner with shotgun says:

    There is no bigger traitor than a labour traitor to the working man

    • 68
      Engineer says:

      Jack Jones = Commie spy.
      Mick McGahey = Commie spy.

      • 98
        General Franco & General Pinochet & PW Botha says:

        The MoD maintains a position that a whole variety of defence capabilities are in the process of being procured. This feels reassuring to the country about the size and scope of Britain’s Armed Forces, but behind this comforting thought is the cold fact is that the budget does not exist, and has arguably not existed since the end of the Second World War, to support this level of ambition.
        The policies of successive governments, and a lack of political will to present to the electorate the unpleasant reality of the position, has been a significant force behind this double-think. So too has the fact that the Cold War allowed the fiction to be maintained, because there was no fighting to expose the weaknesses in the system, and because the Warsaw Pact had similar problems. It is equally true that Ministers, the Armed Forces, and Civil Servants did not rush to confront the problem either.

      • 283
        Fucking delicious! says:

        Engineer = total saddo fuckwit

        Fucking delicious! = quality political analyst

        Simples…

        Fucking delicious!

  9. 22
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    I suppose it would be completely irrelevant to mention in passing that Wagner was Hitler’s favourite composer?

  10. 28
    Unsworth says:

    Fucking boring Wagner. All his ‘operas’ give me piles.

  11. 32
    Fuck 'em all says:

    Professional lobbyists. That’s another thing that wrong with this country. A place on the scaffold must be reserved for them, too.

    • 59
      Lily the Pink says:

      We’ll drink a drink a drink to
      Lily the pink a pink a pink
      The saviour of the human race
      For she invented medicinal compound
      Most efficacious in every case

      Well Ebeneezer thought he was Juilius Ceasar
      And so they put him in a home
      Where they give him medicinal compound
      And now his emperor of Rome

      • 285
        Fucking delicious! says:

        Read it again, and retype you fuckwit.

        How the fuck did you manage to get the fucking words wrong? Dear jesus, tories really ARE idiots…

        Fucking delicious!

  12. 36
    Ivor Stash MP says:

    Bugger – how come I never got any tickets. That’s the last time I’ll exert any influence in the House for any of Bell Pottinger’s clients.

    oooops!

  13. 40
    NICK BROWN( AT YOUR CONVENIENCE) says:

    Have They Made An Opera Of Ali Baba And The Forty Thieves ? It Could Be Adapted In To A Political Farce ! About Brown And His Cabenet !
    Lloyd Webber If Your Looking In 10% For The Idea ?

    • 53
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      If only the Police would Nick Brown.

      • 164
        Funambulist says:

        Forget Ali Baba as an opera. Perfect for the panto season!

        Widow Gordo Twanky: “Oh no I didn’t!”

        Audience: “Oh no you didn’t!”

  14. 41
    Hugh Janus says:

    Never mind the opera Guido (fat lady enters, fat lady sings, fat lady dies, all so predictable) – what about the shambles that is defence procurement?

    Just an hour before yesterday’s debate the NuLiebour so-called government finally released a highly critical report, all 200+ pages of it, presumably in the hope that the Opposition are slow readers (as well as the distraction of licking their self-inflicted wounds over the expenses outrage). Old Bob Aintworthatoss may not know what day of the week it is, but he is certainly a quick learner when it comes stuffing his opponents if a hugely damaging document might finally put him out of our misery. The fact that others had seen the report as long ago as July did not seem to impress one little bit, and his response to this revelation was just shameful.

    When procurement is such a hot topic you would think that even this bunch of cynical and inept bastards (who have raised such behaviour to Olympian levels) might just for once do the decent thing, if only for our troops fighting and dying in Afghanistan? Is that really too much to ask?

    • 84
      Anonymous says:

      Procurement seems to be the operative meme here.

    • 91
      Chicolini says:

      You can imagine Brown and his Cabinet addressing one of our brave heroes in Afghanistan….

      “Remember, while you’re out there risking life and limb through shot and shell, we’ll be in here thinking what a sucker you are.”

    • 96
      The "Angry Aberdonian" says:

      They can’t be complete numpties – I mean they managed to procure their new £2.3 Billion Whitehall offices OK! A luxurious palace fitted out with finest Italian marble and solid (mature) Oak, with a Herman Miller “Aeron” chair for every Civil Service arse!

      Funny that. I guess it’s just a matter of priorities.

      • 109
        Hugh Janus says:

        Yes, but any fool can spend a vast sum of money on a new building – the trick is to get it properly constructed, on time and at the lowest price. In this country we seem to excel in going for shoddy, late, and vastly over-priced. Why is this so difficult? Are not 85,000 civil servants at the MOD enough for pity’s sake???

      • 255
        Mr Ned says:

        Well that is an investment!

        Why? Well having to pay “compensayshun” to a civil servant for who had to endure a bad back caused by wasting time and money sitting in a less than perfect chair, would be MUCH more expensive than paying for body armour for troops or compensation for a soldier’s lost limbs.

    • 97
      Anonymous says:

      Never mind the opera Guido (fat lady enters, fat lady sings, fat lady dies, all so predictable) – what about the shambles that is defence procurement?

      I know it’s no excuse but it’s always been like that. Visiting Bovington tank museum last summer was highly instructive: You see the stuff that the Germans and even Russians were fielding in WW2, then take a look at the deathtraps the British army were pootling around in. Probably you could go back to the Crimea as well and see the troops were equally badly equippe as their modern counterparts in Afghanistan.

  15. 49
    English Heretic says:

    There was a much better Opera on at the ENO last night (in English) but only troughing MPs can afford the ROH.

    • 60
      It's all Balls says:

      It’s also opposite The Ivy. I guess it could be argued they save on Taxis?

    • 61
      T Phillips says:

      I surprised the fucking traitors dare visit somewhere with the title ‘English’ surely that would make them racists.

      • 115
        English Heretic says:

        Trevor, I thought you supposed to be busy emancipating the BeeNPee? hands off the ENO!

  16. 64
    A.Hole says:

    Welcome Geert Wilders!-now the Home Secretary can deal with the the powerkeg he and his ilk helped create.

  17. 73
    Right Bastard says:

    The Marxist Brothers spending a night at the opera.

  18. 83
    Music Corner says:

    This beats Wagner anyday:

  19. 88
    angry teuchter says:

    Since we’re talking music, it just goes to show that as far as our representatives are concerned, the old song is still right on the money:

    “The working class can kiss my arse,
    I’ve got the foreman’s job at last!”

    Good to see our political classes doing something useful with their time, instead of doing things that get in my way!

  20. 92
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Was JacquifiveBellies the Fat lady delivering the finale?

  21. 101
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    BEATS WAGNER? you must be joking.Just WATCH and LISTEN

    • 106
      Shylock says:

      Beware you are again engendering the possibility of a not completely pro- semitic thread here old boy.

    • 116
      Kilgore says:

      I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

      • 295
        A music critic says:

        Au contraire. Rammstein’s bravura re-casting of Workers’ Playtime in a 21st century stylee consigns Wagner to the dustbin of history.

  22. 104
    THE NEW LABOUR OPERA OF WAR AND DESTRUCTION says:

    WE WILL KILL THOSE DIRTY AFGHANS BLOW THEM UP WITH LOTS OF BOMBS
    WE WILL BOMB THEIR DIRTY WEDDINGS KILL AS MANY AS WE CAN
    TALIBAN OR ALQAEDA WE DON’T REALLY GIVE A FUCK
    IF WE GET CAUGHT BOMBING WEDDINGS WE CAN CALL IN CARTER RUCK!
    TORTURE AFGHANS IT IS GOOD FUN
    CHOPPING OFF FINGERS AND TOES
    AND WHEN WE RUN OUT OF FINGERS THE LAST SNIP WILL BE THEIR NOSE!
    GOD BLESS BROWN THE KING OF TORTURE THERE IS NOTHING HE WON’T DO
    HE WOULD RIM HIMSELF IF HE COULD SWEAR TO GOD THAT’S WHAT HE’D DO
    MANDELSON HE RIMS BROWN’S ARSEHOLE
    LOVES THE TASTE OF BROWN’S RING PIECE
    STICKS HIS TONGUE RIGHT UP THE CREASE!
    LICK IT LICK IT LICK IT PETER LICK IT UP YOU DIRTY WHORE
    SOON YOU WILL BE OUT OF POWER AND FALSE CLAIMS YOU’LL MAKE NO MORE

  23. 111
    jgm2 says:

    A perfect metaphor for this evil socialist governmnet. Actually choosing to waste five precious hours of your life sitting through a bunch of costumed buffoons singing in a foreign language and every seat heavily subsidised by folk on minimum wage.

    Now multiply that image one million-fold and that is the additional number of public servants hired at vast expense by this most incompetent of governments. One million custumed buffoons talking a fucking foreign language in five hour ‘meetings’.

    No wonder Nick fucking Brown likes it. It’s his life’s work writ large.

    It’s like the middle class wankers in Soviet Russia building fucking great opera houses all over the place so that the workers could grow to appreciate the finer things in like. Become cultured like wot we are. The biggest one in the whole of Russia is in fucking Novosibirsk – right out in the middle of Siberia so that the railway workers could enjoy a little Tosca after a hard day freezing their bollocks off.

    Fuck off pretentious middle-class wankers. Opera was probably fucking brilliant when the highlight of any day was when your mum didn’t die of TB before you were old enough to clean chimneys.

    Now that we have cinema, TV, live Sport 24/7, fast cars, reliable contraception and reliable drugs then opera is as relavent to keeping us entertained as a fucking jousting tournament.

    And if you want to go and watch it then don’t expect folk on minimum wage to subsidise your frankly bizzarre passtimes. You might as well subsidise fox-hunting if you’re so keen to subsidise the passtimes of the upper class you clearly, so desperately, want to emulate.

    • 155
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Applause

    • 217

      Awesome post but “every seat heavily subsidised by folk on minimum wage.” is probably why they like it

      1) the lowerclasses aren’t bothering them
      2) the lowerclasses are paying for them

    • 235
      Four-eyed English Genius says:

      I would have thought that Faust by Gonoud would be a more appropriate metaphor for this government. After all, they have sold their souls to the devil!

  24. 112
    Anonymous says:

    How about this. Former Tory boy MP gets well paid job with Bell Pottinger –

    *********

    Bell Pottinger Public Affairs appoints Tim Collins as Managing Director
    12 October 2009

    Bell Pottinger Public Affairs (BPPA) has appointed Tim Collins as its new Managing Director.

    He starts on October 19th and replaces David Sowells, who is to take up a new role in Washington working for Bell Pottinger USA.

    Tim was a member of the Shadow Cabinet under three successive Conservative leaders, was a member of the Downing Street Policy Unit and Special Adviser in multiple Departments, as well as being a former Director of Communications for the Tory Party.

    BPPA Chairman Peter Bingle commented: “It is great for us and our clients that Tim has agreed to join BPPA at this fascinating time. He is a serious person with a long and distinguished history in the Tory Party.”

    Tim Collins said: “I’m delighted to be joining Bell Pottinger Public Affairs and hope to help Peter Bingle and his superb team stay the best in the business.

    It’s never been more important that those making public policy, and those affected by it, should understand and trust each other and exchange ideas and information to help make the country run better.”

    ********

    Moral ‘There’s more than 1 trough for an ex MP’s snout’

  25. 124
    RavingMad says:

    Well, whilst enjoying opera and Verdi and Puccini in particular, I went to see Diana Jones in Bristol last night. An excellent show from a deeply talented woman. She sang a song which I think is the answer to all of our problems with MPs and the state of the nation.

    Too many rules and regulations
    Too many planners not enough doers
    Too many MPs Too many bullies
    Too much constrain not enough freedom
    Too many threats not enough encouragement

    Diana Jones – ‘If I Had A Gun’ enjoy

  26. 126
    Celia says:

    Does anyone remember how he was such a disaster as Minister of Agriculture and Foot and Mouth spread like wildfire in 2001 because he failed to stop the movements of animals across the country? Fat poof.

    • 132
      Anonymous says:

      Is he fat?

    • 134
      Unsworth says:

      Yep. He’s certainly one of them, and a rather slippery ‘movement’ as well.

      Watch out, though, there’s a Kray about.

      • 157
        Geordie Boy says:

        Word on the street in North Tyneside is that he’s due for a big kick up the arse come the election. He’s so worried he’s actually started to spend some time in his constituency -when he’s not at the opera that is.

        • 218
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          Anybody on the streets in North Tyneside is asking for a kick up the arse. It’s what you lot do for fun and games.

    • 163
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Farmers were helping to spread foot and mouth by hawking sick animals around. An infected herd was slaughtered and the owner given full compensation whereas a healthy herd was worthless because it could not be sold. So you’d hire in a sick beast. Simples.

      In older days at the first sign of foot and mouth they’d cordon off the area and surround it by all the local guns who would blast away anything that lived (including the pikeys). The disease never got very far.

  27. 131
    tat says:

    opera gets 250 million pounds in subsidies every year.
    then c’unts like nick brown and the tory scum get the discounted tickets, not people on low incomes.
    what a carry on innit.
    that sums up the problem with this country: the rich do not want to pay their own way, they want to live off the backs of the poor and the poor will always remain poor, no matter how hard they work, if they are carrying freeloaders like nick brown and the tory millionaire scroungers.
    this subsidy farce also applies to the EU. why are we paying millionaires and large land owners subsidies?
    ’tis time for a crackdown on millionaire benefit cheats.
    for the greater good.

  28. 135
    Celia says:

    Somebody else doesn’t like him very much. See Political Career at the bottom of the Wikipedia page on him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Brown

  29. 141
    Popeye says:

    Anyone know if Peter is of “the other” persuasion??

  30. 143
    jgm2 says:

    Yep. I seem to recall that every single fucking seat to every single ‘performance’ is subsidised to the tune of over one hundred quid.

    A bit like the London Olympics. And you can be pretty certain we won’t be able to get seats to that either by the time all the hangers on in 200-odd countries hand out the freebies to all their hangers on. Not that you’d want to be trekking up to East London on shit public transport, passing through several rounds of security to see some Lithuanian shot-putter from the far end of a stadium 300m in diameter. Then get skinned alive buying a pizza or rat-burger and have to trek all the way back home again.

    Another fucking waste-of-money subsidised bollocks event. More global willy-waving at vast expense by this incompetent government.

    • 162
      Engineer says:

      I may be wrong here, but I think Britain hosted the 1948 olympics, mostly in London. (Not sure where in London, given that quite a lot of it got flattened during the recently-completed unpleasantness.) I’m told that the competitors found their own digs, arrived by public transport and were expected to bring their own sandwiches. Sounds fair enough.

      Why have we managed to make such a colossally expensive hoo-haa out of it this time? Haven’t we got any half-way decent running tracks and swimming pools already?

      • 166
        The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

        Why cant they run up an down Oxford street and swim in the Thames?
        Brixton is full of spear chuckers so ideal for the javelin, plus they also do a nifty bit of shooting.
        I should be running the country

        • 197
          Chantelle O'Shea says:

          The 110 metre hurdles could be held in Liverpool. Competitors, with a stolen DVD under one arm, could hurdle stationary car bonnets while pursued by police. Roaring “it’s the fuckin’ bizzy” as you run is an optional extra.

          Equally, the Olympic flame could be an enormous chip pan which could be lit by a “disaffected youth” from inner-city Birmingham lobbing a petrol bomb into it.

          • Engineer says:

            The long-distance relay could be run between Royal Mail sorting offices, using full mailbags as the baton. Archery and shooting events could obviously use lobbyists and troughing parliamentarians as the targets.

      • 167
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        Why have we managed to make such a colossally expensive hoo-haa out of it this time?

        Fucking engineers overdesigning everything and pissin about with the schedule. Does any big project get finished on time or on budget these days?

        They don’t make any Brunels any more.

        • 189
          Engineer says:

          Having spent part of my working life on large projects, one of the greatest time and money wasters is a client that keeps changing their mind. The good client draws up a specification, agrees the schedule and budget with the designers and construction contractors, then lets them get on with it. When this happens, the job is a dream to work on, and things get done on time and on budget.

          The government, regrettably, tends to be one of the worst of clients. Even if the civil servants manage to agree a specification, budget and timescale (and that’s rare), politicians can’t resist sticking their fingers in half way through the job. Result – delays and cost-overruns, questions in the House, more interference, leading to more delays and budget overruns, leading to….

  31. 144

    We’re doing ‘HMS Pinafore’ at college next month. £3.95 a ticket and some lovely home made cakes at half-time. The new chemistry teacher’s in it and she is, the students inform me’ ‘well fit’. I’m happy to send tickets out.

    • 161
      Gordon Brown says:

      ……

      In fact, when I know what is meant by “deficit” and “subsidy”,
      When I can tell at sight my arsehole from insolv*n*y,
      When such affairs as planning and contingency I’m more wary at,
      And when I know precisely what is meant by “utter fucking twat”,
      When I have learnt what would be a functioning economy,
      When I know more of ‘prudence’ than a novice in a nunnery—
      In short, when I’ve a smattering of elemental strategy—
      You’ll say a better Prime Minister has never sat a gee.
      For my economic knowledge, though I’m plucky and adventury,
      Has only been brought down to the beginning of the century;
      And so, in matters mathematical, and economical,
      I am the very model of an utter fucking imbecile.

    • 286
      Potential alpha male says:

      Culture plus top totty. Put me down for a ticket!!!!

  32. 147
  33. 170
    It's Within The Rules, OK? says:

    Why bother with the ROH when you can just rent the “All Creatures Great And Small” DVD from the corner shop? Siegfried and that Christopher Timothy bloke with his hand always shoved up a cow’s arse. That was Jacqui Smith’s first TV appearance as I recall.

    If ballet is poof’s football then what is opera? Ventriloquism for toffs.

  34. 172
    Anonymous says:

    British people are living in a fools paradise and have yet to understand the gravity of the economic crisis:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6339642/Ex-FSA-chief-Sir-Howard-Davies-sees-dramatic-risks-for-Britain.html

    • 179
      Anonymous says:

      Brown is determined to bankrupt the country and leave the Tories to take the blame when they come in next year and try to sort out the mess.

      He should be sacked now before he can take this scorched earth policy any further.

    • 188
      South of the M4 says:

      Many have understood the gravity for a long time. Just not those who have been entrusted with the power to make policy. The UK has been sleep walking into a socio-economic catastrophe for at least 2 years and the idiots in charge – and the other idiots who do not oppose – continue that walk. For the first time in 50+ years I feel this country needs a revolution.

      • 204
        Engineer says:

        Not sure that a revolution would help, but I sort of know what you mean.

        Perhaps the worrying thing about this article is the poll result that suggests that only 20% of the population understand that Britain is in a big hole, and still digging. I get the feeling that large chunks of the media don’t understand – or don’t want to understand – and until we get honest reporting of the economic facts, we can’t pull together.

        Some journalists have been reporting honestly for some time (Jeff Randall springs to mind), but they seem to be in the minority.

      • 233
        Susie says:

        I don’t think they’re idiots. I think they are following instructions from the EUSSR.

    • 191
      When all this nonsense over Mp's expenses is over says:

      £1 = $1.6276

      £1 = euro 1.09132

      FTSE 100 5250.11

      Gold 1049.00

    • 220
      One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

      A good time to remind people that McRuin took actions detrimental to the situation and ignored repeated warnings while deceiving the British people by constant untruths, deceptions and spin. He knew this was coming and was warned constantly but chose to do nothing.

      Sells gold at rock bottom right before bull market

      Deliberately leaves out house prices in calculation of inflation, leading to artificially low interest rates thus spawning an unprecedented housing boom (which later crashes of course)

      Spends entire national reserves, racks up record debt

      Encourages local councils to save with Icelandic accounts which later go bust, purely based on high interest rates offered

      Run on pound against a basket of currencies, reaches below parity mark with Euro for high street exchange rates

      Encourages people to keep on spending and borrowing to invigorate the economy despite the UK already having the highest levels of personal debt in Europe.

      Recommends to Lloyds TSB (which has a reputation for being a slow and steady bank) acquisition of another bank which is subsequently shown to have losses of over £10billion

      These are the IMF warnings which give the lie to his protestations of innocence:

      1) Dec 2003 IMF gives Brown borrowing warning

      2) Sep 2005 IMF report warning over £1 trillion mountain of debt

      3) Sep 2005 Brown besieged over growth and borrowing plans

      4) Dec 2005 IMF fires new warning over Britain’s finances

      5) Sep 2006 IMF warns over possible UK property crash

      6) Oct 2007 IMF report UK house market is ‘heading for crash’

      7) Apr 2008 IMF: UK vulnerable to US-style housing slump

      October 2008, the IMF said that the UK was worst placed of all the major economies to weather the coming recession.

      • 238
        Susie says:

        And all this was ‘accidental’ or ‘circumstantial’? I don’t think so.

        When Thatcher left office we were the 3rd largest economy in the world.

      • 246
        Engineer says:

        That’s interesting. I hadn’t realised the IMF had been issuing warnings since 2003. What does that say about the media, or about the way news has been ‘spun’ to the media? And if it was ‘spun’, why did so much of the media swallow the spin and regurgitate it uncritically?

      • 247
        The Indecision says:

        Er… Financial misconduct = Conservatives

  35. 173
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    Philistine!

  36. 175
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Brown= fat incompetant poofter

    • 180
      Nicey says:

      Pill-popping phantastic mate!

    • 182
      Anonymous says:

      Brown = sociopath
      Brown = narcissistic personality disorder
      Brown = nasty piece of work
      Brown = bankrupt Britain
      Brown = record levels of unsustainable debt
      Brown = scorched earth policy

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    duncan says:

    17:00.

    They just had the summer and a whole lot more off.

    Part time workers.

    Full time tossers.

    But we’re the complete mugs for allowing it to continue.

    • 206
      Anonymous says:

      Here is a list of the unelected who surround the Prime Minister. They are, of course, accountable to no one save the Prime Minister. This list is not exhaustive as there is some TV personality called Sugar now involved, apparently. In what follows, note the attempted “legitimacy” advanced through anachronistic “titles” redolent of a medieval fiefdom.

      It is now no longer possible to speak of Britain as a democracy.

      1. First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills and Lord President of the Council – The Rt Hon Lord Mandelson etc.

      2. Leader of the House of Lords and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster – The Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon

      3. Secretary of State for Transport – Lord Adonis

      4. Attorney General – The Rt Hon Baroness Scotland of Asthal QC

      5. Advocate General for Scotland – Lord Davidson of Glen Clova QC

      6. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (MoJ) – Lord Bach

      7. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (HO) – Admiral Lord West of Spithead GCB DSC

      8. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DCSF) – Baroness Morgan of Drefelin

      9. Minister of State (DECC) – Lord Hunt of Kings Heath OBE; and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords

      10. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DOH) – Professor Lord Darzi of Denham KBE

      11. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DWP) – Lord McKenzie of Luton

      12. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State* (DBIS) – Lord Young of Norwood Green (and Lord in Waiting – paid)

      13. Financial Services Secretary (Treasury) – Lord Myners CBE

      14. Minister of State (FCO) – The Rt Hon Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG

      15. Minister of State – The Rt Hon Lord Drayson & (DBIS) (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)

      16. Minister of State – Lord Davies of Abersoch CBE (DBIS) (jointly with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office)

      17. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DBIS) – Baroness Vadera (jointly with Cabinet Office)

      18. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (FCO) – Baroness Taylor of Bolton (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)

      • 260
        Australian says:

        You left out the Kinnock cow. She has lost her job as Europe Minister after only 4 months but the old bag still has some other sinecure, the name of which currently escapes me.

  39. 184
    Chuckle Chutney TV says:

    Nick Brown + Gordon Brown = Chuntey Brothers

  40. 185
    Anon says:

    Saw this on Luke Ackhursts blog this morning…

    This place feels more like Fantasy Island by the minute.

    I can see Bob Ainsworth in a dwarfs suit running round (probably avoiding bullets from our troops – should they have been issued with live ammo) shouting about ‘elecoptors and screaming “da plane, da plane” at the sky while Gordon Brown throws mobile phones at him and Peter Mandleson, still in his Pantomime Horse outfit after the conference season, keeps trying to mount a quite enraged John Prescott.

    Harriet Harman catches one of Gordons phones when he coughed and it flew out from his lower jaw. She then crashed her car whilst on the mobile which just goes to show not all women can multi task.

    She normally promotes women so lends Jack Dromey, her brow beaten husband, most of her underwear to stand in a safe Labour seat – should such a thing exist any more.

    (Jack’s looking for work since the party coffers dried up and it’s understandable he needs a safe seat far from his wife although if they just moved into her families home there would be more than enough room)

    Tessa Jowell’s husband was not available for comment since the Italian authorities are questioning him which is understandable for a Tax Avoidance Lawyer, the usual career choice for Labour Ministers.

    Alan Johnson appears on Question Time to run down UKIP members, quite rightly sacked from their party for unproven ‘financial irregularities’, whilst supporting that Jacky Smith Home Secretary who’s against Porn and who charges the taxpayers of the UK £116000 to live in her sisters box room once a week or less.

    Of course Smiths husband still gets paid as a secretary by the taxpayer along with her £400 a month food allowance.

    Johnson in fairness only steals £200 a month for food unlike the £800 a month from Cooper and Balls.

    Gordon Brown uses the services of A man to look into fiddles by MP’s on expenses and gets a bill for £12416 paid in cash to his brother to clean a two bedroomed fat even though he lives in Downing Street…

    …for goodness sake roll on the election and stop this lot :-(

    • 236
      It beggars belief. says:

      I have posted this info before but it needs to be seen again;

      After tax and NI,the combined net income for Balls and Cooper is £15,000 per month or £3,461 per WEEK.

      They then claim £400 per month for food or £92 per week.

      An 80 year pensioner gets £91 per week to live on – thats it – nothing more.

      So these two nothings get £1 per week more money for a “food allowance” than a pensioner gets to buy food and pay all bills etc.

      And then they have their £3,461 net earnings each week.

      Now tell me that is FAIR and tell me it is NOT immoral.

      Time to march on Parliament.

  41. 186
  42. 190
    Chuckle Chutney TV says:

    “Ex-FSA chief Sir Howard Davies sees ‘dramatic’ risks for Britain
    The British people are living in a fool’s paradise and have yet to understand the gravity of the economic crisis, according a former head of the Financial Services Authority.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6339642/Ex-FSA-chief-Sir-Howard-Davies-sees-dramatic-risks-for-Britain.html

    Of course we do you monkey’s cock – it is Brown who can’t

    • 200
      jgm2 says:

      Well you understand it. And I understand it. And a lot of people on this and other internet forums – they understand it.

      Unfortunately the truth is being supressed by evil Labour ministers and spokes-twats who possibly are so fucking thick they don’t understand it or (more likely) do understand it but have calculated that if they can continue the lie just long enough then they’ll be able to dump the entire blame on whoever comes into power in 2010.

      And the BBC is helping them in its utterly uncritical reporting. Choosing to do as its told by this evil regime – concentrating on the wicked bankers who won’t lend us any more money to artificailly pump up the price of our insanely over-priced houses – the wicked bastards just so we can pretend that we’ve actually got an economy as opposed to a pyramid of borrowing and consumption perched on top of the completely insane value of our homes.

      And the Nu-Labour/BBC solution to this idiotic situation caused by insane borrowing and consumption? Why, print more money so that folk can borrow even more money and consume even more shit and so that their houses will ‘increase’ in value as everybody with any brains and any cash left gets out of cash and into gold, assets, stocks – basically anything of any concrete value before the currency collapses completely.

      It is scorched earth economics of the worst sort. And its entire time-horizon is to crawl over the ‘finish line’ of the general election and leave absolutely no room at all for manouver to the new guy. Just tip the biggest pile of shit you can into the new guys lap – and the electorate for being so treacherous as to vote the fucking bastards out – how dare you – we’ll show them – ungrateful bastards.

      Pure fucking evil. And 400 Labour MPs still just sitting there, saying nothing, just taking the money.

      • 212
        Sukyspook says:

        Very well put jgm2 and imo oh, so sadly true…

        However. I have a theory that ‘they’ have a problem in that ‘we’ have stopped buying into their ‘stuff’, which they need us to do to keep the scam going.

        There are a lot more people wise to their ‘agenda’ than they’d like which, I guess, is why after sars and bird flu didn’t work, they’re now onto ‘da swines’ or ‘swine eleven’.

        If ever there was a ‘shapeshifting reptilian’ or at least an alien masquerading as a human – this guy is it lol:

        ‘They’ call it the ‘stock market’ because they call us CATTLE (G…m)

        • 250
          Susie says:

          Scary.

          And the sheeople are going to troop into their GP surgeries over the next few months for their flu jabs. I’d rather have the flu than trust them myself.

          My sister’s at home with a swollen face, lips and eyes — allergic to whatever they gave her for swine flu.

          • Sukyspook says:

            Cripes Susie, your poor sister, that sounds awful…..no vaccine for me – EVER – even if I’m standing at the wrong end of a gun.

            The residential home where my Mum is had their annual flu shots the other day – I’m in the minority of course (twas ever thus) with my ‘no thanks’. Some of the residents are so frail it’s hard to believe any doctor would compromise their immune systems further…..and wait till the swine flu vax is offered. Also, I hadn’t realise that the residents are offered a pneumia jab every 5 years too!!! $$$$££££ for the: bankster/gangster/corporate/medical/military/industrial/pharmaceutical complex eh!

      • 225
        One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

        I read a report yesterday that the Natiowide were returning to offer 95% mortgages with no deposit required.

        Thats partly what the problem was the fist time around and they still do it FFS????

        • 262
          Australian says:

          How can you have a 95% mortgage loan with no deposit required? How does the remianing 5% get paid?

          • Fucking delicious! says:

            He’s a tory fud, that’s why. Fucking economic illiterate that he is.

            What a balloon…

            Fucking delicious!

        • 271
          mortgage advice unit says:

          May be they will charge some fantastic interest rates (10%?) and levy huge charges to cover their increased risk? and whose to say what the “value” is that they calibrate their 95% against? More to this than meets the eye.

      • 232
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        jgm2

        You’re a star! The anger and frustration that comes through your posts mirrors mine exactly. From now on, I won’t bother posting – you say it all for me. And much, much better.

    • 208
      Anonymous says:

      It was evident the first second that Brown stepped into the Treasury that he was storing up problems for the UK Economy if ever the World went into a recession;his tri-partite regulatory system where each component part was responsible for just a part of the overall regulation;control of interest and inflation without any one body having overall control was merely ensuring that there was a massive loophole in the oversight of the banks with no one body being ultimately responsible to control their lending splurges.On top of that Brown’s active encouragement to expand consumer debt particularly personal debt to finance his spending plans was yet another incompetence which fuelled an unsustainable and overheated property market with ex-building societies formed into banks eager to get in on the money by lending 125% mortgages without proper audit of people’s finances lending to people who should never have trusted with the ownership of a piggy bank account let alone a mortgage or bank account.

      During the decade that Brown was Chancellor the number of financial journalists and media outlets that kept giving nauseating plaudits to Brown as the finest Chancellor this country ever had was total bullshitting bollocks.

      Maybe the original catalyst was in the USA and Hank Poulson’s total stupidity in allowing Lehman Bros to fold bringing down the whole global house of cards but Brown had also ensured that the UK was yhe worst country in the World to be able to sustain the downturn or that it would be able to claw itself out of recession ahead of the other industralised nations with the resultant exposure of sterling to attacks in the markets.

      Brown is the one living in a fools paradise and he is still conning a small but seemingly gullible part of the electorate that he actually has the answers -he hasn’t – he’s the problem.He has been responsible for bankrupting the country and both he and his party are in denial even now that by spending yet more money and getting the country into more and more debt he can spend his way out of the problem until after the election when either the Tories will be saddled with the roblems of paying down the debt of should he be re-elected the total collapse of sterling and the calling in of the IMF – either Brown won’t be around to pick up the pieces for his profligacy and mis-management

      • 251
        Susie says:

        Hank Paulson stupid? Ha!

        He was ex-Goldman Sachs — Lehman’s biggest rival. The slickest and most blatant corporate banking hatchet job ever achieved.

        Betcha he’s enjoying the fruits of GS $22 billion profit with lots more to come with their competitors wiped out.

  43. 198
    Tubes says:

    Ho ho ho

  44. 201
    Sukyspook says:

    Guido, I’ve just guffawed my way through another collection of hilarious postings. Isn’t it time you produced an Annual and made a few more bob from those on here with “amazing wits and startling repartee”, after all, you allow US the opportunity to use your esteemed blog?

    Suggested title:

    “Guido’s Annual Bumper Fun Book of Chumps and Hoons” or similar.

    I’d buy several ‘sensibly priced’, pocket-sized copies for family and friends.

    Such irreverant humour is wasted in the recycle bin.

  45. 202
    SO17 says:

    ‘He will not go’

    ‘Please do make him go’

    ‘He will not go’

    ‘Please do make him go,please do make him go’

    ‘Bealzibub has a devil of a son from mance’

  46. 211
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Its not over untill the fat poof resigns

  47. 213
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    If the libdems come second at the next election and become the official opposition will what’s left of labour have to huddle together at the side during PMQ’s, the way the libdems do now? That would be lovely.

    • 241
      One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

      McDoom crouching in the corner oh yessssss…. please please make it happen with chocolate buttons on top.

    • 253
      Susie says:

      The Liberals will form another Lib/Lab pact and decide between them who will be PM — which ever’s the largest party gets to choose top boy — most likely Gordon Brown.

      Don’t vote Labour/Liberal and don’t vote UKIP

  48. 215
    nell says:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/15/carter-ruck-trafigura-parliament-injunction

    Cart+r R+uck are making news moves today to shut down the debate on Trafigura.

    They’ve written to all MP’s telling them that this issue is sub judice and that they may not debate it in the House next week as they had planned.

    • 243
      A vile, toadying, two-tongued Noo_Lie_Bore snake says:

      I think this should be debated, – so I would encourage everyone to debate it on line – for instance Guido’s list is a very good platform.

      Did I tell you I wrote a book on courage, – me?

      If ever you’re in a tight spot you can rely on me.

      That’s what I tell all the troops.

      Just give me a call, – and I’m there, – right alongside you.

      They tell me that they find that a great comfort.

    • 263
      Australian says:

      Doesn’t matter Nell. An MP cannot be in contempt of court for what he says on the floor of the house. Any sensible MP would return said letter with an appropriate two word response written on it!

    • 268
      Hugh Janus says:

      Sorry Nell, slight mispelling there – Farter-Fuck or Carter-Fuck is what we all know and love.

  49. 219
    The reality in education says:

    I heard the other day from a friend that his daughter who is studying at a college and rather than do A levels that are now so commonly marked as A grade so the Universities cannot differentiate between any student anymore,she is studying the International Baccalaureate (IB).
    In her year there are 48 students studying the IB but this year’s intake is only 17 (yes,SEVENTEEN) due to the cutbacks on finance by this dreadful govt.

    This is the reality of this corrupt govt.

    • 237
      One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

      My daughter also started out studying the BC but has now withdrawn as has most of the others as the BC is not recognised by a number of universities and the work involved is as good as pointless when it could be directed at the other subjects taken. The reason apparently is only certain schools can do the BC at 6th form (normally the better ones) and as such the Government state it gives those pupils an unfair advantage over the others when applying for university places. As an aside I also discovered at the same time that because of my previous training and achievments there is a risk my daughter will be placed at a disadvantage when applying for a future university place and might not be offered one as a result under the ‘let anyone in even if they plainly cannot complete the course’ rules issued by this scumbag of a government.

      Nice bit of levelling the playing field DOWNWARDS again by Labour.

      I really really hate these hoons to the core.

  50. 242
    Sir William Waad says:

    You know how Tristan and Isolde ends. After a very extended amount of banging and roaring they all die. How appropriate.

  51. 245
    Jac says:

    I guess if you are plotting with the enemy, loud operatic music allows this without fear of parabolic microphones picking up anything other than the aria!

  52. 249
    Disco Biscuit says:

    Overt Opera fan Nick Brown always was a bit of a drama queen…

  53. 252
    Daveyone says:

    I think Bizet’s Carman would have been more appropriate!

    • 266
      Australian says:

      “Bizet’s Carman”

      Is that the one where the hero tries to get £2,000 for his clapped out old banger?

      • 292
        Lady Mandy says:

        No, you’re thinking of The Queen of Spades, where Trevor Phillips tries to get £200,000 for his clapped out quango.

        • 293
          Opera Windows says:

          I thought Bizet’s Carman was the one where four pirates cleaned out all the booty from a ship called Rover and a Chinese Emporer had to come to the ship’s rescue?

  54. 259
    Bexie says:

    Say it in Bayreuth a couple of years back. Every other production pales after that

  55. 270
    Fume de ma taunt says:

    Nick Brown lives in 12 Downing Street – yet still claims £23k a year for his ‘second home’, so he’s perfectly able to buy opera tickets out of his own pocket.

  56. 273
    Oprah Windsock says:

    It’s not over until the fat bloke swings.

  57. 276
    Genghiz the Kahn says:

    Will Balls declare the ‘treat’?

    I always thought he had the build and appearance of Hagen, ready to stab his leader in the back.

    But perhaps he could apply for a part in Mussorgsky’s Boris Godunov of Юродивый or Yuródivïy (“Simpleton” or “Idiot”).

  58. 278
    bill kearns says:

    I have always been struck by the insight in the lyrics of ‘That’s why the Lady is a Tramp’. I particularly liked the line ‘She goes to Operas and stays awake’. I must have heard these particular lyrics a thousand times and continue to subscribe to the concept.

  59. 279
    Corky says:

    Am I missing summat here,why do I hear now and again people calling that Cooper woman ladyboy.

  60. 289
    Falstaff_on_the_Rock says:

    Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody for Rock Lovers –

    Wagner’s Tristan for the Opera Lovers.

    Please do not mock good art – it’s really all we’ve got to separate life from the other unmentionable and painful things we must, some day contemplate.

    We all need Art as an island in which some sense of human achievement can be truly and unequivocally appreciated.

  61. 290
    smerus says:

    Dear Guido, lay into Dave, Gordon et al. (especailly Al), but lay off Wagner, there’s a dear!

  62. 291
    Joe E says:

    how surprising that you would shun culture, mr fawkes



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