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	<title>Comments on: Legg : A Question of &#8220;Fundamental Principles of Propriety&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Snuggles</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-302652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snuggles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see that even the veteran left winger Labour MP Alan Simpson has got in on the troughing!!!  Oh dear Alan what about the class war!!  Not very good to cause this!

See it here:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6327089/MPs-expenses-Alan-Simpson-leads-mutiny-against-Sir-Thomas-Leggs-demands-with-call-for-court-case.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that even the veteran left winger Labour MP Alan Simpson has got in on the troughing!!!  Oh dear Alan what about the class war!!  Not very good to cause this!</p>
<p>See it here:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6327089/MPs-expenses-Alan-Simpson-leads-mutiny-against-Sir-Thomas-Leggs-demands-with-call-for-court-case.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6327089/MPs-expenses-Alan-Simpson-leads-mutiny-against-Sir-Thomas-Leggs-demands-with-call-for-court-case.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Franz Zappa</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-302611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Franz Zappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anagtime= Messrs Carter Ruck, by way of Rat Cumers KSC(s)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anagtime= Messrs Carter Ruck, by way of Rat Cumers KSC(s)</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-302444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Kennedy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No sympathy for the MPs&#039;, just a lot of anger at the betrayal of trust.

So what if the external auditor has a sawn off shotgun approach to the MP&#039;s expenses scandal, the MPs have had a chance at keeping their house in order, and chose to hide their dirty secrets from public scrutiny.

These MPs&#039; chose to write &amp; apply rules which in retrospect seem corrupt, &amp; I think the present auditor would have the full support of the public to go further and  investigate all of their financial transactions.

These benefit claimants have it seems used a system designed to cover rents and necessary expenses, for the purposes of whole mortgages including stamp duty, plasma TVs&#039; and a lot of gardening.

The very least I expect is further investigations into their potential tax evasion, committee expenses and fraud, anywhere their little hands have touched public money for private use.

This cartel of expense claimants has no sympathy from the British public, the MPs&#039; have had the cheek to imply they were living on rations, when our soldiers&#039; were sharing bullet proof vests on campaign, let them take their complaints to court, if they are so confident of their innocence.

I think they need to set an example for once; I suggest that if any of these benefit scroungers has funded the costs of a new house entirely public expense, then that house should be returned to the tax payer when they are ultimately voted out of office.  

It would so disappoint me to see them make a profit from collusion with the fees office, while urging the rest of us to tighten our belts.

After all if they have never paid a penny towards their lifestyle upgrade, they will not be loosing out will they?

Are there any MPs&#039; which qualify for this? Please let me know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No sympathy for the MPs&#8217;, just a lot of anger at the betrayal of trust.</p>
<p>So what if the external auditor has a sawn off shotgun approach to the MP&#8217;s expenses scandal, the MPs have had a chance at keeping their house in order, and chose to hide their dirty secrets from public scrutiny.</p>
<p>These MPs&#8217; chose to write &amp; apply rules which in retrospect seem corrupt, &amp; I think the present auditor would have the full support of the public to go further and  investigate all of their financial transactions.</p>
<p>These benefit claimants have it seems used a system designed to cover rents and necessary expenses, for the purposes of whole mortgages including stamp duty, plasma TVs&#8217; and a lot of gardening.</p>
<p>The very least I expect is further investigations into their potential tax evasion, committee expenses and fraud, anywhere their little hands have touched public money for private use.</p>
<p>This cartel of expense claimants has no sympathy from the British public, the MPs&#8217; have had the cheek to imply they were living on rations, when our soldiers&#8217; were sharing bullet proof vests on campaign, let them take their complaints to court, if they are so confident of their innocence.</p>
<p>I think they need to set an example for once; I suggest that if any of these benefit scroungers has funded the costs of a new house entirely public expense, then that house should be returned to the tax payer when they are ultimately voted out of office.  </p>
<p>It would so disappoint me to see them make a profit from collusion with the fees office, while urging the rest of us to tighten our belts.</p>
<p>After all if they have never paid a penny towards their lifestyle upgrade, they will not be loosing out will they?</p>
<p>Are there any MPs&#8217; which qualify for this? Please let me know?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes, but it opens a real can of worms if they start prosecution, so they won&#039;t.

Some people have mentioned that the SFO should also be investigating; that&#039;s also not going to happen (I know because I once reported a multi-million pound pension fraud to the SFO, and they said they&#039;d investigate given the general situation that I described to them, but once they saw who was involved they said they wouldn&#039;t touch it with a fucking barge pole and refused to even look at the proof that I had)

This kind of corruption spreads far/wide/deep; the same also applies to cyber crime of a billion-dollar nature; the police don&#039;t want to know because they know who it all leads to in the end.

If you don&#039;t believe me, and think I&#039;m a conspiracy theory nutjob, just try to report something to the SFO that has any kind of government/quango link and see how far you get before they send you a &quot;we&#039;re not fucking touching that one, mate&quot; letter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, but it opens a real can of worms if they start prosecution, so they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Some people have mentioned that the SFO should also be investigating; that&#8217;s also not going to happen (I know because I once reported a multi-million pound pension fraud to the SFO, and they said they&#8217;d investigate given the general situation that I described to them, but once they saw who was involved they said they wouldn&#8217;t touch it with a fucking barge pole and refused to even look at the proof that I had)</p>
<p>This kind of corruption spreads far/wide/deep; the same also applies to cyber crime of a billion-dollar nature; the police don&#8217;t want to know because they know who it all leads to in the end.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t believe me, and think I&#8217;m a conspiracy theory nutjob, just try to report something to the SFO that has any kind of government/quango link and see how far you get before they send you a &#8220;we&#8217;re not fucking touching that one, mate&#8221; letter.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny-cum-late</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-301058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny-cum-late]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets face it expences for cleaning your moat, if you have a moat you need a pleb to clean it for you....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it expences for cleaning your moat, if you have a moat you need a pleb to clean it for you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Section D Notice</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-300477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Section D Notice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All repayments should also include interest (compound) at 8% per annum, the rate one can claim in any county court small claim and other proceedings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All repayments should also include interest (compound) at 8% per annum, the rate one can claim in any county court small claim and other proceedings.</p>
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		<title>By: ukipwebmaster</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-300274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ukipwebmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This story has Leggs:

http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2009/10/legg-protects-powerful.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story has Leggs:</p>
<p><a href="http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2009/10/legg-protects-powerful.html" rel="nofollow">http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2009/10/legg-protects-powerful.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scallywag</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-300194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scallywag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He better not go for a walk in the country anytime soon...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He better not go for a walk in the country anytime soon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 50 Calibre</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-300193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[50 Calibre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her &quot;sorry&quot; cost us £928 per second. Not many people know that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her &#8220;sorry&#8221; cost us £928 per second. Not many people know that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 50 Calibre</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/10/14/legg-a-question-of-fundamental-principles-of-propriety/#comment-300192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[50 Calibre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He obviously didn&#039;t hear the question...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He obviously didn&#8217;t hear the question&#8230;</p>
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