A Case Study in Media Disintermediation : #Trafigura
The blogosphere and Twitterati come out of this quite well. M’learned friends will have to rethink strategy. Guido will have more to say about the bigger picture tomorrow. It is time to take the freedom of the press into our own hands.
The full story is on the C4 News site here.
Raw (unedited) video for Guido’s interview:
Wikileaks still hosts the the Minton report which you are not allowed to see, by order of the Court, here. Suck on that Carter-Ruckers…
Carter-Ruck. Bloody silly name for a group of facist pigs that want to interfere with our right to free speech.
Nice to see their injunction stuffed up their arses sideways.
Did anyone else see that stroker media barrister on Newsnight just now?
Yes. Like a concentration camp guard in charge of the shower block.
Stuff happens. I really don’t know what the problem is, he says.
The phrase “chosen, not elected” is always at the back of my mind Bill…
Instead of “I’m not worthy” Guido – you are proving that we are ALL worthy. I don’t like the word but ‘Kudos’ to you sir.
However, a word of warning if some of us need it….beware the EGO, the ‘devil within’ – it’s continually out to destroy us, if we allow/enable it to.
Guidiot the Oaf has a great face for radio.
At least he’s learnt to keep his big fat belly off camera.
Still by the looks of him he needs some rehab, now.
What was that thing on his lip?
Herpes?
Crack pipe burn?
What?
Discuss
Unlikely to have been a discus MB, far too sporty.
Hands up anyone who put on a hell of a lot of weight between the age of 20 and 40?
Hands up if you’re still 20 and cocky and think it won’t happen to you?
Yes, loathsome, but even worse was Harriet Harperson as a student, who was responsible for her election? Her shallowness was so visible even then
‘I dont like those SPG police,I only like the fat cuddly wuddly kind who will take abuse from my educated long haired friends’
Stupid cow.
Blair Peach died 30 years ago for fucks sake. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. That is the explanation for most street murders these days, so I wish these lefty Timewarpers would get over it.
The inquest found Peach had an exceptionally thin skull. The SPG were a particular target are the time of the left. SPG were disbanded shortly after this. People forget that these incidents of public disorder from the Lewisham riots, just before the infamous riots at the 1976 Nottinghill carnival, was where riot shields were first introduced, was the start of modern crowd control methods in the police. They were on the front line between two sets of enemies, and still are, intent at mayhem.
Why?
Was it you?
No. Just good memory.
Good memory? What, from last night’s report? Short term memory is intact. Carry on.
Yes, Harperson was a fraud way back when I discovered radical feminism. Never liked her, never trusted her, never felt represented by her.
We know where you live and we’re coming to get you, using/abusing RIPA/FTAC and 42 day detention.
The State has control.
Ms Smith likely to be elevated to the Lords if she loses seat at the GE!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6319265/MPs-expenses-campaign-launched-to-deny-Jacqui-Smith-peerage.html
Think that this is another mission for the Blogs/Twitter/Facebook/TxTs/Anything!
This woman must be stopped from troughing with a Title.
Bitch.
It’s a standard procedure for crooked ex cabinet members.
Absolutely, 5 Bellies (married to a latent) sould be sent to Elba with her significant other and her(?) children taken into care
We were having a politial discussion earlier but then we got bored and an interesting question came up: (nice video by the way, I’m hoping they actually had audible sound for the interviewer).
Would you
a) Like to feel perpetually nauseous (as if you were about to vomit) but were never able to do so.
b) Be violently and spontaneously raped by a large rottweiler once a month for the rest of your life. (you can’t escape it, it is relentless and magically appears)
So far most people seem to opt for B, I’m unsure personally : (
If Gorbals Mick is considered fit for the House of Lords then anybody can get a title and lord it over us. Jesus wept. Oh for the heriditary House, where people mainly served from a sense of duty and noblesse oblige.
Life Peerages and payment have ruined what used to work – not perfectly, but better than today’s troughing politically motivated bunch who can no longer be relied on to bring the Govt of the day to account, any more than the H of C can.
Legal Prostitutes Will Sell Their Arse To the Highest Bidder How Many Mp’s Will Hire Them To Try To Get Off Paying Back the Money They Stole ?
how do you stuff something up the anal passage sideways?
how do you stuff something up the anal passage sideways?
With much blood, sweat and tears.
Jeez, isn’t it obvious. Rather than the pointy end, you turn it on its side and stuff it up.
Well fuck me, Guiido!
The diet’s obviously working well.
You look like a Racing Snake.
(Used notes, as usual, please.)
Not that I can talk…..
LMAO. He’ll need a bungalow soon. And his own postcode.
Fraud investigation then jail.
If Ringpiece can get on the roof of Parliament unhindered to promote Milliband’s Green Agenda but Al Queda can’t, people will talk.
Well, I will
Is the right hoonorable Shalik Malik-Trougher too busy to do his share of personal guided tours of the Houses of Parliament then?
Nice one Guido – they don’t like it up them.
Maybe these overpaid bullies won’t enjoy their moment in the spotlight……
A very rich lawyer is approached by a charity worker who is concerned that the lawyer didn’t donate any money to charity, despite making over £1m that year. “First of all,” says the lawyer, “my mother is bedridden and gets no help from social services. Second, I have five kids through three divorce marriages. Third, my sister’s husband recently died and she has no one to support her four children.” “I’m terribly sorry,” says the charity worker, “I feel bad about asking for your money.” So you should,” replies the lawyer. “If I’m not giving them any money, why should I give you any?”
Lawyer dies and goes to heaven. St Peter stops him and says ‘hang on mate. no lawyers allowed.’
The lawyer says he is a good man. He looks after his kids. He was never unfaithful. he was always fair to his clients and never robbed them.
‘So?’ says St Peter. ‘Everyone does that. For a lawyer its impressive, but in the world of human beings that’s nothing special’
So the lawyer recounts how he looked after his sick mum, how he taught kids football on Saturdays and always went to church on Sundays. How he was never in trouble, not even a speeding fine. How he was always giving to charity.
St Peter still looks unmoved and in desperation the lawyer tells him ‘Why just yesterday I gave £100 to children in need. Please..please’ he sobs.
So St Peter relents a little, realising this is a most unusual lawyer. He says he will go and have a word with God.
He comes back after a few minutes and says
‘God said here’s your £100 back. Now fuck off’
LOL !
I’d like to know why Guido was not mentioned once in Rusbridger’s crowing litle self-congratulation? You’d think he’d taken all the risks himself: http://tinyurl.com/yfs4r3q
Carter-Fucked.
To be honest, it’s more than that.
They’ve been shown up to be totally impotent, the once great shark lawyers have had their balls snipped off. There was a time when virtually no one would have challenged them, out of fear of financial ruin.
How times change and how they will think twice about trying to gag someone. The tide is turning, my only concern is how the establishment (not just lawyers, but law makers and the government) will try to snuff us (the bloggers) out.
We must not let this happen, long live the freedom of speech.
That’s the beauty, they can’t….
Think of how many countries have serverfarms you could happily rent, even assuming they were able to go through the lengthy process of getting injuctions overseas (and the expense necessary to bring action in said “nations”)
And then if that fails use floating servers, blog through proxy anonymously, it’s no more possible than the RIAA shutting down bittorrent.
They would need new legislation in order to pursue people overseas and the costs would be prohibitive, especially IF people are willing to put themselves somewhat in the line of fire and scatter the information all over the internet.
I think it’s a minor victory for freedom of speech, not by any means one that you would expect to make major differences, it would certainly be a brave politician who proposed making our libel laws any more ironclad and medieval.
What about the printing press as where technology increases freedoms?
ok they abused the bill of rights , naughty lawyers
and what was wrong with requesting a medievil device for punishment
Not nasty enough, GFM.
A ripsnorter up around the neck at 90mph is the standard retribution.
What : Like The RACK ?
Hattie’s Persomal Assistants are all quite fit, I noticed.
These things are all comparative…
If that’s the answer, I didn’t hear the question.
Neither did I, the one in the House of Commons, until just now (Newsnight).
symbiosis, how many points is that worth in scrabble?
Not as many as netzahualcoyotl
Are Proper Nouns allowed?
What ” About Zezozose Zadfrack Glutz ” How Many Is That Worth ?
As many as you want.
You’d be playing on your own.
Power to the People!
1:25 in you do a McBroon goldfish.
Hopefully this will be a case study for those you marketing and barrister jocks in years to come.
Very impressed that the report was produced so quickly, they were asked on7th Sept and wrote that long complicated response on 14th Sept.
No need to panic, the internet is here to save the day.
Internet 15 years old you know..
Until it’s “Licenced” of course.
It’s 40 years old!
Not in my house it ain’t.
nice shirt Guido
pity about the cold sore on your left upper lip ——-hint —-zovirax!!!
You are no dermatologist – that is a zit.
Hey up. Wimdowlean’s on the phone; ‘want to place an advert header.
I’m sure we don’t need visual clues to help people understand that someone whoss mouth appears to be opening and closing whilst emitting sound might actually be speaking?
Have we become that contrived?
Anthem For Doomed M.P.s (Apologies to Wilfred Owen)
Why passing-bells? They treated us like cattle?
Only the monstous adding of the sums.
Only the calculators’ rapid rattle
Resounded at their houses in the sun.
Full mockeries now for them; no prayers nor bells,
Nor any voice of comfort save the choirs,–
The shrill, demented choirs damning to hell;
And Holborn calling for piano wires.
What pensions may be grasped to ease the fall?
What glimmer still of greed shines in their eyes?
The time is come for them to make good-byes.
The hatred of each voter is their pall;
Their monthly cheque is indexed, they dont mind,
And still each month they ask and we must find.
We could have up to 300 new MP’s at the next election. That leaves 346 arses in place.
A parliament of whores followed by a parliament of virgins
No. A parliament of 50% virgins hoping to become whores.
Even more than the paradise they promised me
Hattie has all the makings to be a virgin. Sorry got confused meant Nun with several bad habits.
Parliament Should Be Dissolved And ALL 646 Should Have To Stand Again And If any of Them Get In Again Then We’ve Only Ourselves To Blame !
OH
Owen wrote this for heroes. Please do not use it to have a dig at arseholes.
Sorry to be a pain.
Apologies. It was actually written by Nightjack, the winner of the Orwell Blogging Prize. Since killed by “them” for being a “threat” to “them”.
Heroic enough?
AASENARED!
What the Time did to Nightjack was unforgivable. Just pure spite and hypocracy. UItter Hoons, I stopped buying it because of that.
To my shame I had not followed the Nightjack blog, but I wish I had. It seems only one post now exists on the net:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Removed_NightJack_police_blog:_A_Survial_Guide_for_Decent_Folk,_24_Jul_2008
I would dearly like to read the rest.
Just reading this comment by OH has prompted me to read about this story and my understanding of what is going on both in the blogging world and in the police has been updated, so thanks OH.
I am not a blogger even though I have long felt at one with the blogging cause. I am now convinced that a major struggle is taking place and that there will be significant developments, Guido/Trafigura now takes on new meaning for me.
There’s a bunch more preserved for posterity here:
http://nightjack2.wordpress.com/
http://thesaltedslug.blogspot.com/2009/10/nighjack-recovered.html
Dear OH,
As a frequent writer of spoofs myself, wow, what a piece of writing, kndos.
Alan Douglas
Lawyers = parasites
Mp’s = parasites
Bankers?
Wankers
Labour Cabinet Ministers = Fucking Useless.
Why are the names of whichever Judges are granting these insane injunctions not being more widely reported. They’re clearly abusing their power.
We were just following “Orders” and our pensions.
It’s not David Eady again is it? He’s Mr Privacy is he not – is he pals with Carter-Ruck?
They Must Be Linked At The Buttocks !
Justice Maddison
I dare not post this on my own blog…
Is this the famous injunction we are not supposed to know about?
http://www.nrk.no/contentfile/file/1.6780930!The_Guardian_kjennelse.pdf
The Order:
a) is against the Guardian;
b) the date is as reported;
c) the Judge, Mr Justice Maddison, is as reported;
d) SCHEDULE C is “The contents of the report (in the form of a letter) of 14 September 2006 by Minton Trehame &Davies to Messrs Waterson Hicks entitled “RE: Caustic Tank Washings, Abidjan, Ivory Coast.” This is the document widely reported to be hosted on Wikileaks.
Mr Justice Maddison claims to have “considered the provisions of section 12 of the Human Rights Act 1998″ but it is clear that it is, or would be, in the public interest for the journalistic material to be published.
Our country, and our justice system, has been seriously globally embarrassed by this incident and surely Mr Justice Maddison should consider his position.
How can our High Court believe that the health of thousands of people and the freedom of our press and parliament is less important than the reputation of a Swiss corporation?
You’re like the geezer that runs in and kicks the bully,after he’s been decked by some other hero.
Can’t think of a bully I’d rather kick.
The link appears to be dead, strange non?
If you’re worried about blog-privacy at least tell us which blog it would have appeared on?
Your loving PM,
Gordon Broon
Oh, sorry, it is working, I just appear to be stupid.
Psst, Want to see the Zapruder tapes!?
Already seen it, and it clearly shows a shot from behind, followed by muscular spasm of the torso forcing the body back and to the left.
Disagree entry was from the front hence exit wound at the rear. LHO was a Patsy. Don’t you just love conspiracy theories.
My understanding is that it’s a European, not British company, a foreign delivery ship moving hazardous waste from the Netherlands to an African country. What’s the British interest to be protected by the courts? In what way has our country been seriously globally embarrassed by this incident? Why is this a matter for the British courts?
Farter-Fuck can fuck off, the farting fuckers IMHO
Bravo for the link. Because it proves what a bunch of pocket filling planks the judiciary really are. Not difficult to work out what info was supposed to be suppressed and kept from our gaze, since they give the full source and title, FFS. (Quick google on ‘Schedule 7’ before today, and you’d have had your story). Date is interesting?
Thanks matey. I think the focus should move onto the stupid twat judge who granted this ridiculous order. I thought you guys might want to read the idiotic document/argument yourselves. As to publishing myself, I’ve got a wife and three kids, a blog hosted in the UK and a home in England – if you read the document you’ll see that this judge is quite keen on fines for contempt of court and has little time for press freedom or justice.
I wonder if the judge has recieved payments to offshore bank accounts where he doesn’t have to consider the trifling laws that affect the little people.
@5.20 Link not working:
403 No file path found: /1.6780930
The link is working, you crazy fool: you need to copy the whole line of text and paste into your browser window
Not a word to the pigs: I know people
FFS, just post it on your blog and stop being a poof.
They’re SWISS.
This order, made on the 11th Sept., relates solely to the Minton Treharne and Davies report (see Schedule ‘C’).
There must have been a subsequent order relating to the parliamentary question and the restraint of reporting same: not necessarily made by the same Judge.
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/keyfacts/list_judiciary/senior_judiciary_list.htm
Sir David M. No CV on website.
Savage criticism
http://prologue.squarespace.com/prologue/2009/10/13/ruck-mauled.html
The report is well worth reading. Can’t believe the lawyers commissioned this for their client
Guido and Carter Fuck = Redact a fucking dour…..
Can I just say my ideal evening would be spent with Guido, Iain Dale and a bottle of baby oil.
There seems to be something extremely odd about the configuration of your synaptic pathways.
Oh dear, and all this on the day Michael Martin is ennobled, the fool leaves the pack of fools in the Commons to join the pack of fools in the Lords and swears an allegiance to his…. bank balance?
Well at least like most fucking jocks in London he won’t be pestering people at the cashpoints for change with a can of strong lager in his hands smelling of piss, so that’s something.
Bet he does smell of piss, air freshener now needed in the upper chamber and the lower chamber.
You don’t use the cashpoint in the House,do you?
Too fucking doddery to remember the pin number after a few sniffters and a cigar in the subsidised canteen (as we call it).
…don’t bet on it…
Look at the messengers. Guardian,Labour mp,Steven Fry.
Anti corporate Guardian digs up story on corporation gets an injunction slapped on them so as not to prejudice the corporation in a potential costly law suit by ambulance chasing Africans. Getting a Labour MP to ask questions thus circumventing press gagging order and gaining lots of publicity via Hansard. Another gagging order issued but circumnavigated by Mr Fry on Twitter.
I think that is about right?
Although the power of the internet has proved great on this issue, the actual Cause is like the BoE affair, a shot in ones own foot.
When this corporation gets bummed by 30,000 africans guess who will pick up the tab.
Asylum and benefits all round should suffice.
So corporations should be free to dump toxic waste with impunity, eh SO17?
I am no touchy-feely liberal lefty by any means, in fact I am somewhere to the far right of Mussolini and I support multiple death sentences for terrorists, paedophiles and socialist traitors to our sovereignty (as in kill them and then resuscitate them only to kill them again, and keep doing that until they reform or cannot be resuscitated anymore(except for paedophiles, just keep killing them for fun)), but I also believe in the rule of law and fairness and decency.
You don’t have a problem with dumping tonnes of highly toxic waste near families? How about they dump it in your garden for your kids to play in?
Just because corporations are necessary to create wealth and employment and goods and services, does NOT mean that they should be allowed to cause harm, injury or loss with impunity. Those are crimes and should be dealt with!
By all means Mr Ned shoot the bastards who sanctioned this but the authoritys can’t so WE will end up paying indirectly somehow.
My beef is with the Guardian who like to pick their targets, often Corporations who provide the wealth that pays for minor things like hospitals,schools and jobs.
I dont like it either but what can you do?
http://www.trafigura.com/about_us.aspx
private company – traders. Trafigura shareholders and insurers will be liable surely?
[...] Fawkes has a slightly more elaborate set-up (see video) where he says that the ‘publisher’ is based somewhere in the Cayman [...]
Guardian journo Cath Elliott on Twitter – ughh! can i borrow a cloth. staines all over my TV set….!
Pawkes? dear me. and people think my conspiracy theories are far-fetched.
The Guardian have campaigned against the British Constitution’s survival for ten years in a row. Now the little babes are crying becoz the Constitution they love so well has reached a state of near collapse. I ask you. Are left-wing people congenitally unable to process information and logic?
Thought so.
Agree completely. I am somewhat shocked that the Guardian would be clinging to our established and still in force bill of rights. The hypocrisy is sickening.
Guido’s voice is soft but his face is strong. Interesting combination.
Is that “anarachistic” a direct quote, GP, or do you have the spelling ability of a Sun reader?
I don’t really give a toss about Carter-Ruck or the the judge who nodded the injunction through. They’re lawyers. We all know they don’t have morals.
But could I just say that the directors of Trafigura are callous, evil bastards who deserve to burn in hell?
The media are discussing injunctions, super-injunctions, attacks on free speech, and Carter-Ruck.
Q: What one example involving all four is not mentioned by anyone in the media, despite it relating to the biggest selling news story of the 21st century?
A: The McCanns, whose lawyers Carter-Ruck have been mounting a campaign of legal intimidation to close down website after website and silence Goncalo Amaral.
Strange that, isn’t it?
I can’t work out why they’re still searching for her, I thought they disposed of the bo…. *TWANGGGG*
*thud*
The increasingly convoluted (and in my opinion deranged) suggestions that have been circulating in the press in the last few days whereby a stranger somehow drugs the three kids (in 3 minutes)… is looking increasingly like desperation from where I am sitting.
I wonder whether we have honestly heard the end of this saga, the HUGE inconsistencies in the stories/alibis/accounts alone are room for suspicion, not to mention vast sums wasted on bumbling “pseudo-tectives”, the increasingly baffling “how it happened” stories and the delight that the press is taking in publishing what it MUST know looks about as convincing as I do as prime minister.
It’s as if everyone is ignoring the obvious whilst putting all the pieces together with the precondition that there HAS to be an abductor, like making an omlette with the rule that you must use a white elephant as part of the recipe.
I so so hope that justice is eventually done.. (and obviously support the brave couple in their valiantly convincing search)
Let’s be fair: the McCanns are energetically calling for the Portugese investigation to be reopened (following their detective’s startling and very specific claim that she is being held in a mansion within 10 kms of Praia da Luz) and are also very vocal in backing the Sunday Express’s call for a proper UK police investigation to be launched by Scotland Yard…aren’t they? what? they’re not? …why ever not?
The Lisbon Treaty silently legalises paedophilia by failing to exclude it from protected sexual orientations, as it expressly was, in all previous EU Treaties.
Lisbon Legalises Paedophilia.
As for Madeleine, the child sex industry in Europe goes about its business unchallenged by the law. Madeleine’s parents need protection from the evil practice of governments which don’t protect children from abduction, accusing the parents.
We will need Parliamentary Privilege and free reporting of Parliament to stop the paedophiles and child sex industry practitioners from doing in the UK what they do in Belgium, Germany, Portugal and other places in Europe, where the law fails to protect.
We need Britain’s Constitution. Cameron has to stop the Lisbon Treaty.
I didn’t know about this “feature” of the Lisbon Treaty, but there is a correlation with wealth. If you take my money without my permission, it is theft; if the state does it, it is called taxation, even tho it is plainly theft. If you take my child without my permission it is called abduction; if the state does, it is called protection, even tho it is plainly abduction it.
This thread isn’t about the Lisbon Treaty. It IS about injunctions and – worst of all – secret injunctions.
Why was it that no one knew for a year or more that Madeleine McCann had been made a ward of court – while people generously gave to the fund which has as one of its objects financial support for her parents (who were now no longer legally responsible for her)? We only found out because of the McCanns’ attempt to get Leicestershire Police to hand over all their files on the case to them (despite them still being official criminal suspects at the time!).
It was only because of that legal dispute that we also learnt there were previously unrevealed orders requiring all official agencies to co-operate fully with the McCanns , responding positively to all their requests (and again – despite them being formal criminal suspects).
Why is it key developments in this case just don’t get covered in the UK Media unless they bear the imprimatur of Clarence Mitchell ? Is it again because of secret injunctions? Well the awful thing about secret injunctions of course is we don’t know.
Why is it no reputable UK author has written a book about this case or even really a long magazine article? It’s a case that has excited the greatest interest. Fear of injunctions again?
The idea that the McCanns are “unprotected” is risible. You’d have to go back to the City of London’s “ring of steel” for a suitable metaphor to describe the level of protection they enjoy.
Well said Tapestry. The McCanns are in a no-win situation. There was a faction out to get them from the very start and they have had no choice but to try to defend themselves against a vicious and relentless onslaught. The initial ‘investigation’ was a travesty and a disgrace and looked immediately to me as if the local plod were either complicit or asleep in their chairs.
Libel laws are often mis-used but there has to be some remedy for the falsely accused. Having been myself onbce accused of something I had not done, and very publicly ostracised and pilloried, I have every sympathy with the McCanns, and I hope they are vindicated one day. If they were guilty of killing and then hiding the child – a ludicrous proposition given the scrutiny they were under – would they not have kept a low profile subsequently.
Samantha –
Your post is typical of the distortion either absorbed from Team McCann unconsciously or or which is deliberately disseminated – and which perpetuates itself because of the injunctions and the media lock down.
1. The offensive description of the professional Portugese police as “plods” is not backed up by the facts. The investigation was very thorough and very extensive as shown by the thousands of pages of evidence now available on the internet.
2. There is no evidence that the police were “complicit” in Madeleine’s disappearance as you claim.
3. There is absolutely no evidence that an abduction took place.
4. Far from being hounded from the beginning the McCanns were the recipients of a huge amount of good will and cash at the beginning.
5. Inspector Amaral has never accused them of killing their daughter. And very few people do. However it serves the McCanns to pretend that is the allegation being made.
6. Low profile/high profile is neither here nor there. What is relevant is why they are not giving their full backing to the Sunday Express’s call for a proper UK Police investigation and why they have never thought to do so before now. That will free up millions of pounds to aid the search for Madeleine – far more than they can now raise – and would involve professional Police detectives with relevant experience undertaking the work.
However, this is not the place to discuss all aspects of the McCann case. This is the place to make the point that we cannot engage in a proper discussion because of the injunctions and super injunctions. Joshua Rosenberg confirmed this morning on BBC radio that there were a number of such injunctions in place about which the public knows nothing. He could well have been referring to the McCann case.
Also Marr/Miles
wasn’t much of a ruck was it?
https is a better way to access wikileaks
https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/waterson-toxicwaste-ivorycoast-%C3%A92009.pdf
ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Secure
Carter-Ruck seem to be able to get extreme injunctions at the drop of a hat. Are they supplying boys and cocaine to the junkie paedophiles that serve as judges in Britain? It make you wonder, after all, British judges are corrupt trash.
What an incredibly stupid post. It’s true that some of the newer judges seem to be politically motivated towards the Left, but the old school are pretty straight. The most moral person I know in the world is a judge – totally icorruptible. He is not happy at all about the way Labour has corrupted the judiciary and infected it with a politiclaly correct agenda
But we would expect Labour Scum to be diseased with ignorance and class prejudice
No one seems to have noticed Mr Speaker Bercow and his view (as reported on another blog) that the injunction did not inhibit the workings of Parliament. So that’s all right then.
Sickening? Frightening? Or just stupid?
Along with Jacqui, Hazel, and co, this Speaker is a perfect embodiment of the Brownian phase in British public life. If the Tories don’t boot him out as soon as the next Parliament meets, it will be the clearest indication possible that things are not going to get any better under them and we should have voted for UKIP. Up to you Dave.
Bercow is wrong.
The whole point of Parliamentary Privilege is that Parliamentary discussions and business, are the business of the people and must be reported. If it is not reported, it is not privileged. The truth still would not get out.
And Bercow is The Speaker of the HoC. Dear God!
“Sickening? Frightening? Or just stupid?” – all three, and that goes even more for the hoons who elected him as Speaker. Talk about the Troughers’ Choice!
The incoming Govet must get rid of him immediately. Or with luck, he will be opposed and will lose his seat; that won’t make much difference to Dave’s majority, not in practice anyway
Guido’s a hero.
He’d never countenance the suppression of free, frank and fearless discussion on here.
You can bet there’s no pachyderm in Guido’s parlour!
There are ironies in the fact that the deeply tiresome Guardian, always so snide about mere bloggers and their failures to live up to the dead-tree media’s high journalistic standards, got bailed out by the bloggers for whom its editors show such sustained contempt. Rusbridger, silenced and bankrupted, being dragged off in chains strikes me as a much more appealing vision than all this messing about with MPs.
We can only dream! The very image has cheered me up no end
PS he didn’t even mention Guido in his PHEW piece today in the Groaniad
He doesn’t like it up ‘im either! – did he send you a case of Burgandy Guido?
Anne Widdecombe on Sir Thomas Legg (Telegraph): “If any other employer did this, he would be up before a tribunal. I have spoken informally to a number of practising lawyers and they say that it is contrary to the rules of natural justice.”
Yes,, but he’s not your employer, honey, WE are. Think about that before you go criming.
And in any normal course of employment, 300 of them would have been summarily dismissed and about 100 would be facing criminal proceedings, up to and including the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
They say they do, but they just don’t get it it – still! Having the “Widdi” as your spokesman must be one of the worst decisions of all time.
Did I hear the proposed first cross party meeting in 12 years was on MP’s expenses? Wars, market meltdown etc etc… Speaks volumes.
I don’t think Widdi was speaking out as part of any concerted cross-party campaign. Yesterday morning on radio 5 I heard only two MPs giving out about how ‘unfair’ it all was. Shrill Widdi and Bonkers Dorries. Both Tories.
The impression of course being given is that it’s the Tories who are complaining and, by implication, that it is the Tories who are being asked for the most money back. Ie the perception to a casual listener is that it’s mainly the Tories who are in the frame.
Now this presents either the possibility that they’re the only two MPs stupid enough to shoot their gobs off (in which case Dave needs to retune these idiots) or that the helpful BBC is deliberately only airing Tory soundbites from the most shrill and embarrassing of their members as part of their on-going agenda to preserve the Labour governmnet of idiocy in power.
The BBc has followed this policy thoughout the Expenses scandal: they always give prominence to Tory misdeed sand off-message comments if possible and play down the iniquities of the ruling party. Par for the course!
Very good points there, thanks. They do forget that we are employing them.
“Baroness Uddin does not look like a conventional warrior. She stands at five foot nothing, sports a ponytail and wears Velcro trainers. But from a small terrace house on the outskirts of Greater Manchester, Uddin, an asylum seeker from Bangladesh, fights each day to support herself and her daughter on 30% a week less in benefits than British families receive.
“Come in, come in!” she says, ushering in every guest with a smile. “Have some food now please. Don’t be shy now – I got it reduced so there is much more. I’m sorry it is so cold, I tell the man the heating and the hot water is broken, but he just says ‘yes, yes I am coming’ and never comes. Please eat, eat.”
To most people, having an extra £2.19 a week in their pocket may not sound much, but for Uddin it could be the difference between paying her phone bill or being cut off, and eating or going hungry. Although she does not have to pay any rent, and her gas, electricity, water and council tax bills are paid for by the taxpayer, surviving on £92 a week means regimenting her lifestyle and rationing”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/oct/14/asylum-seekers-struggle-benefits-cut
Bollocks – how do I manage then?
This cracks me up.
I’m sorry, but I do not believe Bangladesh is a country where we should accept asylum seekers from.
Why?
Well if it was so terrible, why do a lot of Bangladeshis have homes back in Bangladesh staffed by servants etc?
Including the lovely Udders of course!
One could argue the Caste system in India is prejudiced in that you cannot raise your caste if you;re a man and are stuck to cleaning sewers for your life.
Oh, but hang on, India is the world’s biggest democracy.
Sorry, but it’s all to inconsistent
Why don’t she open a cafe then?
I read the original (it’s not Uddin of ocurse) and feel sorry for the woman and her daughter. Life for women in Moslem countries is usually very tough (as it is here for many of them). It’s lucicrous that her case is dragging on for over three years – she should long ago have either been sent back, or permitted to work.
But my first thought on reading that account of how she ‘manages’ on so little money, was that a majority of pensioners in this country, exp elderly divorcees (myself included), have to manage on that sort of money – and we don’t get our fuel bills paid! And that’s after a lifetime of work (paid and unpaid) in this country.
Have just seen this and spoiled my first cup of tea of the morning.
There is every chance that jacqui smith will go to the House of Lords because she has been (the worst ever alongside of bl+unket) a Home Secretary!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6319265/MPs-expenses-campaign-launched-to-deny-Jacqui-Smith-peerage.html
The lords has to be next on the list for scrutiny. Along side former speaker Martin, having her bring her smelly baggage to the upper house has to be a step too far.
Bliar promised lords reform all those years ago but they have hung on like shit to a blanket. Bugger off m’lords and ladies, paying back what you owe as you go.
Strasbourg/Brussels next stop.
I feel very much at home in the Lords.
I fink as how it is the ermine
an that, innit.
An there’ll be lots to stick to when Frau dlein OberGruppenGropenFuhrerBathenPluggenHolenBungerUpper arrives, with or without chain.
Why not? Michael Martin has just been rewarded for being the worst speaker ever with a Seat on the Lord’s gravy train for the rest of his life.
The establishment always wins.
Why are the press satisfied to see back bench MPs being fined for the minor stuff such as cleaning and gardening and extremely well paid ministers getting away with house flipping and mortgage scams? The backbenchers are canon fodder for the government.
I forsee bad luck following Lord Martin of Gorbals.
Trafigura is, as so often, a whole interconnected network of companies with no real home for the obvious reason that it constantly morphs (shape shifts) to adapt to any threats and opportunities. The core is a Dutch based company but also has a presence in Luzern, Switzerland. The ‘global asset’ trading arm of the animal is based in London and hence their sensitivity to the British media which by reporting anything that could highlight their track record (and negate their caring, sharing green concern marketing etc, etc) and put off their big investors who would not like to be associated in the public mind with mid-ocean chemistry experiments and poisoning thousands of Africans by fly-tipping.
They have been badly advised by their lawyers.
As the whole world now knows.
Names and history of this entities track record widely and easily available in the net.
Thanks POI – useful counter to the racist bollocks from SO17 above, who fell into the classic NuLab trap of thinking that if something involves the people you don’t like, it can’t be a good cause.
Not racist, pragmatist.
The Guardian and its readership have ensured that in a short while OUR uneducated lawless kids will be playing in Chinese toxic shit.
They have undermined everything in this country to a third world level.
Shame about Luzern – I used to work and live on Lake Luzern – beautiful place,but then it also highlights that nasty and sinister things happen everywhere in this world.
Looking forward to QT today – well, probably until the thug PM stands up and lists the 37 soldiers killed since these villains in Westminster took their long long holiday.
For me I am finished with these politicians – I have had enough of them.
Luzern? Is that the same as Lucerne..place with a big lake? Yeah much better than the stinking Ivory Coast. They’ve really spoilt that place, it’s like Benidorm on a bad night now.
‘Their’ best ever Weapon of Mass Destruction – TV – and our solution to it:
Cripes V, turn the telly off for 24hrs? Why don’t you ask me to chop a nut off aswell!
Simply message to all MP’s..
Pay up or fuck off……………….
(preferably both!)
I think Pay as You Go’ would be good
Funny that “Pay As You Fuck Off” wasn’t taken up by Orange was it?
November 5th, Bonfire Night will take on a new significance for the establishment
The old significance will be just fine – B OOOOOO M !
Here is a prime example of a British waste company failing in its duty to process waste in its country of origin, thus cutting corners for profit. Does the blood money get put into offshore accounts to avoid sequestering in the event of an incident? There is a hat-full of dough in processing industrial waste. Firms regularly sign cheques in thousands of pounds for lorries to come and take away the slops. I have witnessed it. Some De-toxed compounds end up in the public sewer you may be interested to learn – all legal too.
Most of the noxious substances were purported to be thiols – compounds with the general formula R-SH, whose general characteristics are a powerful and nasty aroma. The conversion into less noxious compounds involves just a few steps with reagents – and can be done safely in tanks or silos etc.
It would involve a real cost, some of which would occupy the employment of British workers and purchase of extra plant and energy i.e. investment to benefit to the mother country.
Sending this sort of crap to the Third World is a practice that must stop – which this failed cover-up will hopefully bring forward – with multi-million pound fines and loss of liberty for the perpetrators. I think that Lawyers who stand up for these maggots ought to be treated as accessories to the crimes.
But we were told it only gave you light flu type symptons. I hope this wasn’t a lie ‘cos I think it was said in court to a judge and Mr Judge said it as he approved the blood money settlement.
I just did it fer me ‘elf din’ I?
No ‘arm in that is there?
Every gal needs a good seein-to from time ter time.
Oh ‘ang-on a mo’ . . . . . I’m one o’ them Noo_Lie_Bore Wimmin – wot is agin Min.
Wicked Min – they only want one thing from a girl, – and their ‘ands goes everywhere!
Mr Prezza of Scot, a Noo_Lie_Bore Illumination says
Someone call?
Take me up the back passage big boy.
Well done Guido, and thank you. You have won a great battle, but they will be back. May you win the war.
Another step nearer to a police state where they can kill innocent people trying to walk home in the middle of a demonstration (April1st 09) and gag freedom to simply discuss something.
Wow – the UK is becoming more like a South American Junta – time to leave.
Guidiot the Oaf has a great face for radio.
At least he’s learnt to keep his big fat belly off camera.
Still by the looks of him he needs some rehab, now.
What was that thing on his lip?
Herpes?
Crack pipe burn?
What?
Discuss:
You’ve posted this before, only 16 minutes before in fact. Please take your Ritalin – ask your Mum to remind you.
Then waad’s the matter?
Discuss!
What is that thing on Guidiot’s lip?
What is that thing on Guidiot’s lip?
THE TRUTH………….
Don’t rise to his posts.
What did the Europeans ever do for us?
Yeah, what did the Europeans ever do for us?
Splitter!
They’re comments not posts.
Guidiot the Oaf posts something then his ill informed harem of right wing dinosaurs comment on it.
Except for those who attempt to rile said right wing dinosaur like dimwits. Which riling, as it turns out, is pathetically easy.
What is it on the lip?
A piercing?
Is fat belly related to five bellies? We should know.
Meanwhile on Jersey…
The 30 year long running scandal of systemised children in care abuse (and worse?) rumbles on. The Daily Mail persists in running stories attacking quite proper investigating officers, whilst Law Officers still sit on their hands but cannot now deny abuse took place due to several high profile guilty pleas for kiddy fiddling. Google ” Stuart Syvret Blog ” .
The truth seems to lie between the two extremes, as usual. There was horrible abuse by some, for which they should go to jail for along time. There was no ’systemised’ abuse of the kind that gets the public sexually aroused.
I beg to differ.
Have you read “No One Came”?
Exceptionally dim comment double double U.
There is clearly a systematised cover up, which indicates the original abuse was systematised.
Normal people are not aroused by the thought of systematised abuse.
What a stark raving lunatic.
I ignored that bit ‘cos I didn’t follow what he was saying. Urgh!
Guido
Things will start to get pretty heavy from now on – if you need some bodyguards around you,let us know on this site – there will be hundreds of us ready to prevent “an accident” happening.
I bet you have trouble with your press pass.
Freedom of the press must prevail, even with the press freedom it is difficult to get the truth from the government. It’s the “Punch and Prudy” show in the “House of Horrors” today at midday. Must be Brown’s worst nightmare PMQs, I expect he would like to scrap it, and I doubt he will take part in any TV debate because he knows what the outcome will be.
if our thieving MPs and their criminal accomplices such as the company named above could tear themselves away from their subtifuge and fraudulent activies they are engaged in for one moment then perhaps we could remember with respect the dead, the troops that we have lost in Afghanistan.
does anybody know why we are in a foreign land losing our brave soldiers?
I am a genius but I can’t figure it out. indeed it seems to me that our presence in that country simply makes us easy targets and is serving no purpose whatsoever other than to increase the chances of us being attacked on the British mainland by the Alqaeda murderers.
TROOPS OUT NOW
“Lord Gorbals was grinning from ear to ear as he was sworn in as a Lord… and who can blame him?”
Lord Martin of Springburn of Port Dundas in the City of Glasgow.
Carter Ruck – think of the shame.
At the Bear Pit in the Royal Courts now and for some time ahead some poor trainee solicitor is running the gauntlet of comments from the assembled masses. Ha ha ha!
Carter Ruck / McCanns / Clarence Mitchell / The Devil
I’m not sure everyone should buy the Carter Ruck/Bell Pottinger/Trafigura are idiots line. Anyone with an ounce of insight could see that given David Leigh was onto the story, the Minton report had been on Wikileaks for almost a month, and the injuction against Parlimentary reporting had llittle legal basis, that the whole thing would eventually collapse blogosphere or no blogosphere. My guess is that the current storm may well be something of a diversion.
Perhaps some attention should be paid to David Leigh’s comments that Trafigura has high level links with the Conservative Party – which were made after Lord Strathclyde left one of its subsidiaries.
Carter Ruck and Tim Bell may be many things but I never had them in the stupid camp.
oh, I always had you in the stupid camp tory boy.
PROTECT OUR FREE PRESS: STOP THE GAG
Tell your MP to stand up for the media’s right to report on politicians in Westminster: e-mail them in two minutes, now.
The Guardian newspaper was temporarily prevented from reporting Parliamentary business in Westminster: one the most serious threats to media freedom in the UK in memory. Worse still, we know now that the gag was to shield the reputation of a major multinational company, coming under pressure on its environmental track record.
The Guardian have fought for their right to report on Parliament and won, but now we must tell our MPs to make sure this can never happen again.
Journalists need to be free to scrutinise our elected politicians. Without a free press, it’s unlikely we would have heard about the expenses scandal or the shady dealings over the start of the Iraq war. We can’t let corporate interests threaten journalists’ right to report the news.
If we all contact our MPs and urge them to challenge the laws that meant that reporting on Parliament could be gagged, we can make sure this never happens again. E-mail your MP now, in less than two minutes.
click here http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/gdiangag
Don’t go into the woods.
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Nobody is going to mess with Guido now they know he is a symbiote!
I like stuff that’s interesting and relevant but this is just another London media circle jerk item, these ever more seems to splatter my Northern Donkey jacket with southern spunk. Of course with the imminent transfiguration of the name of the government from Labour to Tory, C4 and the Grauniad must now have to paint the old guys as Gaia traitors and oil industry lovers. Making sure that Staines got on telly to mouth about … er blogging, and nothing more, ensures the inanity continues.
Guido, has Carter-Ruck ever contacted you demanding you remove the Wikileaks link?
Too Late! Rushbridger shut it down on Cif:
Can I post here?
Cif posting here:->
Look seriously! Calm down! I only heard of this because Guido mentioned it in a puppy dog way ‘cos you Guardian guys threw him a bone.
Pointless article, maybe the court transcriptions are elsewhere on this site, but where is the evidence that the otherwise febrile twittering actually had any bearing on this case?
What you are witnessing here is the realisation of wha” twitter”and other future pseudo transparent sites are about.
They will tell you at the most glossy level what is “going on”, but the underlying gritty stuff is never real, think about it: do you yourself want to give away all your negotiating thoughts?
It is certain that the Guardian and Mr Rushbridger have had many conversations that have never even brushed the possibility of being allowed to be surmised in the papers articles let alone being leaked through a tweet.
But they pretend otherwise and insult intelligent thought in general.
Anything is real now.
Once a thought has been decided, in some London bar it can be decided, post hoc, to have been leaked by any media who pays the best
You probably think I am very stupid but I have lost track of how the comments work here… anyway I laughed out loud at the interview – perfectly splendid!