October 13th, 2009

+++ Guardian Gag Attempt Dropped +++

Carter-Ruck caved in.

Owned

Image credit : ToryBear.com


279 Comments

  1. 1
    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    It is the right thing to do

    • 5
      The late Tommy Cooper says:

      Come on, tell us this gag then. It must be a side-splitter ??

      • 23

        Don’t have a gag but I have a dreadful pin.

        Guardian wins the Battle of Trafigura

      • 24
        Axe Rant Imp says:

        In fairness, you can’t really expect anything close to morality from lawyers like Carter-Fuck, they are utter whores who would be willing to place gag-orders for Hitler, Stalin, or even a petrochemical company that dumped highly toxic substances on a third-world country.

        The fact that these utterly immoral whores think it is right and proper to gag a legitimate question in the house makes me hope that their name becomes tarnished to the extent that it becomes bad PR to associate with them.

        And lets not forget what this is all about, KILLING and POSONING of innocent MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY TRAFIGURA

        • 27
          Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

          Not only is it right to challenge the challenge to free reporting of Paliament; this additional polluting of our traditional way of doing things has highlighted the LAW and The Bill Of Rights 1688 and I hope it encourages young students and adults alike to read The Bill Of Rights and then reflect on why this part of our make up is ‘progressively’ fogged up by our servants.

          • Chomping at the bit says:

            The Bill of Rights and it sent out certain basic tenets for, at the time, all Englishmen. These rights continue to apply today, not only in England, but in each of the jurisdictions of the Commonwealth realms as well.[citation needed] The people, embodied in the parliament, are granted immutable civil and political rights through the act, including:
            Freedom from royal interference with the law. Though the sovereign remains the fount of justice, he or she cannot unilaterally establish new courts or act as a judge.
            Freedom from taxation by Royal Prerogative. The agreement of parliament became necessary for the implementation of any new taxes.
            Freedom to petition the monarch.
            Freedom from the standing army during a time of peace. The agreement of parliament became necessary before the army could be moved against the populace when not at war.
            Freedom for Protestants to bear arms for their own defence, as suitable to their class and as allowed by law.
            Freedom to elect members of parliament without interference from the sovereign.
            Freedom of speech and debates; or proceedings in Parliament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689

          • tat says:

            so the Queen cannot establish new courts eh?
            so that pisses all over the EU’s bonfire.
            the Queen had no right to give Royal Assent to the lisbon constitution.
            oh well, tough shit for the europeans innit.

          • English Slaved says:

            Yes, Chomping at the Bit. You can tell how OUR Parliament has let us down so badly when you read the Bill Of Rights. They are the ‘peoples’ people. Or supposed to be as intended.

          • Augeus says:

            Sod the Bill of Rights, what’ve happened to the Rights of Bill?

            No more free intern every week and all dry-cleaning taken care of. I wonder what Hillary does with her cigar?

        • 192
          Peter Grimes says:

          24 Fuck that for a game of soldiers!

          Which half-witted cross-dressing tart of a (so-called) judge APPROVED the injunction?

          It is this halfwit who needs stringing up!

      • 144
        Henry Crun says:

        Two peanuts ver vorking down zer strasse…

    • 107
      My Dog Knows right from wrong says:

      “It’s very difficult for MPs to know what’s right or wrong”.
      Derek Conway MP

      You can say that again Derek.

      http://page.politicshome.com/uk/conway_attacks_lack_of_consistency_in_expense_rulings.html

      • 125
        It's a trap! says:

        Employing family on full time money, when they are in full time education is definitely inappropriate.

        Especially when the young one camps it up at ‘Special Gay’ parties and brags about how rich he is. Poof!

        • 146
          All Labour in the North? says:

          Just a point of interest, for us naive Northerners please?

          Whats the difference between a ‘Special’ and an ordinary gay party?

  2. 2
    Doc Trough says:

    Carter-Rufus

    • 123

      We would just like to say that we stand by this wonderful company Carter-Ruck and in no way are we pissing ourselves laughing in our office, because we’ve actually gone down the pub to celebrate.

      • 141
        Dick the Prick says:

        Trebles all round!

      • 149
        Anonymous says:

        Any chance you could find some journalists with backbones down there?

        Who’ll stand up to the oriental Stalin and print some proper stories once again?

        • 279
          Big Bazongas says:

          Apart from L’Oeuil Prive, who amongst the scribbling classes gives a fart about the death of Dr Kelly? Back in the ’60s and ’70s, when we still had journalists with guts and intelligence, this utterly shocking case would have come to a head within 6 months of the alleged murder.

  3. 3
    alexinSW6 says:

    Hopefully in time to meet the Private Eye print deadline.

  4. 4
    Trafigura Spokesman says:

    Oh bollocks.

    *scarpers*

  5. 6
    Bardirect says:

    With indemnity costs and an inquiry under the undertaking as to damages perhaps?

  6. 7
    Kitchen says:

    Well done Guido

    • 42
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      Guido’s family must be very proud of him. He deserves an award for his unflapable nerve driven by integrity and humanity.

      • 53
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        Guido is too modest. I trust he gets a well deserved mention in the Guardian. Well done the Guardian, too.

        • 72
          DaemonBarber says:

          “Bloggers were active this morning in speculating about what lay behind the ban on the Guardian reporting parliamentary questions. Proposals being circulated online included plans for a protest outside the offices of Carter-Ruck.”

          Is about all the Guardian is saying about Guido et al so far…

          • Mr Ned says:

            They are far too arrogant to admit that it wos the blogosphere wot won it! the dead tree press giving credence to the blogosphere? Surely not!

          • Anonymous says:

            Poor old Grauniad. Go easy on them. Think of all the ads for govt, local govt, media jobs and quangos. Without them they would go bust overnight.
            It’s a crap newspaper anyway. Think Michael White, think Polly Toinbee. On second thoughts, don’t bother.

          • IRB says:

            Without cash cows like Autotrader they wouldn’t stay afloat for long regardless of how many Five a Day jobs were given to them.

            I wonder of it keeps St George awake at night knowing that his money comes from flogging Cortinas in Gateshead.

        • 155
          Doc Trough says:

          I was ungallant enough not to mention this in my previous post.

          Well done Guido and all concerned. Perhaps Sir Mick will be kind enough to send round a bottle of Baileys and a box of Nytol?

  7. 9
    nell says:

    Could it be that Trafigura and Carter Ruck realised that even a gagging order could not control the blogosphere and so abandoned their stance before the 2pm Court hearing that was scheduled for this afternoon.

    I think Guido probably should take a bow.

  8. 10
    Josef Müller-Brockmann says:

    chuckey eggs and apple chutney all round

  9. 12
    MI5 says:

    Great stuff Guido

    How many other “gag orders” are still hanging over our heads without our knowing it ??!

    Blow all these wannabe dictators out of the water…

    • 122
      You haven't seen me, right? says:

      There’s the Andrew Marr one that prohibits any mention of his fathering a lovechild on Alice Miles, and incidentally prohibits the prohibition being mentioned.

      So you haven’t read this, obviously.

      • 131
        It's a trap! says:

        Which Andrew Marr are we talking about here?

        Worldwide there are over 650 folks with the same name.

        So which one has a little Bastard with big Jug Ears?

      • 173

        “fathering a lovechild on Alice Miles”

        Does this mean tht another woman was the mother, and Alice was merely the mattress?

  10. 13
    nell says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8259765.stm

    Is no-one to be prosecuted for Trafigura’s criminal actions which killed some people and left others seriously ill?

  11. 14
    Eileen Critchley says:

    I wonder how the Trafigura.com Analytics report looks today?

    Looks like Carter-Ruck win the October ‘c*nts of the month’ award.

    Well done lads, keep up the good work!

  12. 15
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    They dropped it because they are too busy preparing a gagging order on parliament itself.

  13. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Has Rusbridger thanked the Bloggers who made it happen or does he think he won the case himself?

  14. 17
    Sunday Morning says:

    Just imagine where we would be if there injunctions prevailed?

    We would never have had that press conference with the immortal words….

    “If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon”

  15. 18

    I’d say that’s as good a morning’s work as anyone here has done in a while… well done all.

  16. 19
    Winston says:

    Has Rusbridger thanked the Bloggers who made it happen or does he think he won the case himself?

  17. 20
    Throbber says:

    Surely its Pwned.

  18. 21

    [...] 2 Guido is reporting that Carter-fuck have thrown in the towel. Having managed to achieve precisely the [...]

  19. 22
    gawainsimon says:

    The bastards didn’t get away with it *this* time!

    (But keep vigilante, and your best rioting boots by the door.)

    • 165
      Reg511 says:

      O/T

      Martin just being enthroned or what ever, the insincerity oozing from the loathsome toad.

      It is beyond Kafka, beyond Disney

      I will lead a walk in the sun on 5/11 but in my community

  20. 27
    tat says:

    I’m a bit disappointed really.
    I wanted to get stuck right into those shitfucks but they’ve caved in.
    fucking lightweights.

    • 59
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      They’ve still gone over the wire TaT. Too far already to return smelling of roses. They shouldn’t have taken the case on. Imo.

  21. 29
    King Carter-Ruck says:

    You’re all gagged

  22. 30
    McGroom says:

    Someone ought to look at the relationship of the chump of a judge that granted the injunction in the first place and Carter Ruck

    • 87
      It's a trap! says:

      The relationship is as proper as the ‘oldest profession in the world’.

      Service meets payment. Pure As the driven snow!

      96% of Lawyers give the others a bad name!

      Bastards.

    • 142
      English Slaved says:

      Yes they should

  23. 31
    MI5 says:

    Carter Ruck can only be described as TRAITORS for trying to destroy the basic rights of the British people…

    Freedom of speech is an essential fundamntal right…

    We even used to show off about ti !!

    How low can la

  24. 33
    Prodicus says:

    Well done, Guido, Massie, Morus and ‘sphere.

    What? Oh, you’re welcome, Mr Rusbridger.

  25. 34
    Engineer says:

    I asked this a couple of threads ago, and got a partial answer (thanks, Tom).

    Is it legally possible to stop an MP asking a question in the House of Commons, as long as the MP observes the proper procedure of the House?

    When the question is asked in the house, and answered (even if inadequately) the whole is recorded in Hansard, which is a publicly-available document of record. Is it legally possible to suppress or prevent the reporting of something in the public domain by virtue of it’s being published in Hansard?

    If the answers are ‘no’ and ‘no’, what on earth were Carter-Ruck et al trying to achieve? The result seems to have been to highlight an issue that would otherwise have been swamped under the normal business of the House. Was someone trying to highlight, rather than bury, the story?

    • 45
      rocknrolla says:

      good question, if they were trying to bury it they have had an epic fail.

      I’m pretty sure the MPs can ask what they want. However for all I know this might have been “modernised” by Labour given that it was often used by MPs who were often white males and therefore bad.

      • 99
        DelBoy says:

        I thought The Palace of Westminster viewed it’s self as a court in it’s own right and regulates it’s own members. No court can over rule the proceedings in either House e.g parliamentary privilage. At the same time it is up to the Commons and Lords to regulate it’s members – Erskine May is the guiding tome, innit? No read much these days though.

        • 163
          percy says:

          that’s the book with all the fairy tales in, innit?

          • Engineer says:

            No, you’re thinking of the Fees Office Green Book.

          • DelBoy says:

            It’s up to the MP’s themselves to decide if their fairy tales are reasonably swallowable. Legg says he can’t swallow.
            Liebour MP’s cry “unfair” we’ve always claimed our dosh like that. Tits!

    • 54
      Mitch says:

      This Parliamentary Question won’t have been approved and tabled (printed) unless the clerks office found it in order.

      Law firms may try to achieve many things; ‘rightly’ or ‘wrongly’. However, to obtain an injunction they must convince a judge they have a case.

      It’s the judge in this case that’s at fault for making such an obvious howler.

      • 61
        Anonymous says:

        So who was it?

      • 188
        Tapestry says:

        The judge knew what they were doing.

        If anyone wanted to appeal, where would they go?

        The House Of Lords?

        Not any more. It would be the new ‘Supreme Court’ which is not a Supreme Court at all, but a junior court to the ECJ.

        If a case concerning Parliamentary Privilege were to appear before the ECJ, the appellant would lose as, once Lisbon is signed, there is no recognition of the sovereigny of parliament in EU Law.

        The Guardian are in support of the loss of the British Constitution. Now they are learning precisely what that entails.

    • 84
      MI5 says:

      In the 17th century, with the likes of Pym and Hampden, Carter Ruck would have been hauled before the Bar of the House of Commons for breach of Parliamentary privilege…

      Are there no MPs left either who defend the rights of Parliament as representatives of the people?

      Labour are in the process of destroying even basic democratic rights……

      PS I suppose they are too busy sorting out their own fiddling now…it is all so sordid it beggars (buggers) belief…

      • 196
        udderly 'orrible says:

        They failed to keep Jaciboot’s sturmtroopers off the parliamentary estate when she insisted on ‘harresting’ Damien Green – so short answer – No.

    • 93
      Mr Ned says:

      Either Carter and Ruck are so naive as to be completely unworthy of their reputation, (which is a supposition that cancels itself out) or they were trying to highlight this case for some other reason.

      Who was their client in this case?

  26. 37
    MI5 says:

    Carter Ruck can only be described as TRAITORS for trying to destroy the basic rights of the British people…

    Freedom of speech is an essential fundamental right…

    We even used to pride ourselves on it compared to other countries…

    How low can “lawyers” fall ? Carter Ruck should be struck off as solicitoros for attempting to destroy our freedom…

    Complaints should be filed with the Law Society now…

  27. 43
    rocknrolla says:

    well done guido :) keep up the fight for free speech … we’ve got the Labour Party, religious zealots, the BBC, the “equality” types and the EU against us, won’t be easy.

  28. 47
    Jimmy says:

    Thank God for that. You can get back to bathplugs again now.

  29. 48
    Terrible But True says:

    It’s one thing to be a cluster of bottom feeders.

    But it must sting to be also a cluster of loser bottom feeders.

  30. 51
    I Hate Carter Ruck says:

    The reason why Carter-Fuck have folded, is because they did not want the judge to point out to them in court that their actions contravened the 1688 Bill of Rights – meaning that they are still free to try and pull this stunt again.

    They need to be punished!

    • 237
      Anonymous says:

      Bill of Rights has nothing to do with it. Totally irrelevant. That just says that MPs have freedom of speech IN PARLIAMENT. It doesn’t cover publication outside Parliament.

  31. 56
    NewsLion says:

    Freedom of speech 1 Funny Idiots in suits with wierd private lives 0

    http://newslion.blogspot.com/

  32. 57
    Inspector Cyril Blake says:

    good work, Guido :)

  33. 60
    Freedom! says:

    Empowerment of the people vs Corrupted Establishment

    Looks like it will be a Penalty Shootout.

    Hopefully there will be a pitch invasion by the masses and the spivs get mullered

  34. 63
    Daveyone says:

    Blyme, Guido’s been on overtime today! Must be time for a pint by now?

  35. 64
    Freedom! says:

    Guido you deserve a gong

  36. 65
    Sir William Waad says:

    Carter, the Unstoppable Writ Machine.

  37. 67
    Says it all really says:

    Mickey Mouse heads to UK in search of Walt Disney World ‘twin town’

    Does your home town have that extra bit of sparkle?

    Is it a magical land where dreams come true and every path leads to ‘happily ever after’? And is it populated by princesses, fairies, and six-foot tall talking mice in human clothing?

    City of Westminster springs to mind!…………….

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1219854/Mickey-Mouse-heads-UK-search-Walt-Disney-World-twin-town.html#ixzz0Tovz6KP4

    • 74
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Yes, Boston in Lincolnshire fits the bill precisely with a combined IQ of 106.

      • 179
        Charles Flaccidwidger says:

        Oi, Titbrain, IQ of 106 indeed. The people of Boston are nowhere near that intelligent. And they are all stumpy fat bastards as well.

    • 185
      Sir William Waad says:

      Kirkcaldy, because it Dis’nae have any fun at a’.

    • 209
      Groucho says:

      Once visited the Disney owned town of Celebration in Florida. Easily the creepiest place I have ever been to.

    • 271
      Jacqui Schmidtschwein says:

      Redditch is the best place for videos and free DVD rental.

      I wouldn’t know though because I live in London. Honest.

  38. 68
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Be very afraid.

    The big people will not be happy that there is something beyond their control.

    • 111

      indeed.

      And they won’t fight fair. A spot of paedogeddon perhaps?

      As I keep saying; our fake democracy *cannot* function alongside an unregulated internet. Do they admit defeat? Or do they kill the ‘net?

  39. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Very well done Guido, and his huge audience and all the publicity. Even our wonderful state broadcaster is slowly (very slowly) becoming aware of the writing on the wall, or rather on the unstoppable cyberspace.
    Thee cheers for the bloggers and four for Guido.
    Cater Fuck whores could soon be like lepers, with a bit iof luck.
    Incidentally, can’t anyone find out the name of the Hunt who signed the gagging order, when, and how much money he made out of it?
    No harm in asking, is there?

  40. 73
    James D says:

    I hope the Guardian’s front page tomorrow reads:

    CARTER-RUCK HUMILIATED

  41. 76
    Truth should be told says:

    “On October 12, 2009 The Guardian newspaper reported that it had been prevented from covering remarks made in Parliament, it complied with this injunction and did not name the questioner or question.[15] However the Guido Fawkes political blog identified the blocked question as likely to be linked to the Trafigura waste dumping case.[16] The Spectator have also speculated that the gagging order involved Trafigura and noted that Trafigura became a ‘trending topic’ on Twitter with the story shared and distributed through numerous weblinks.[17] The Guardian confirmed that Trafigura was the source of the gagging order following the lifting of the order the next day.[18]”

    Source: Wikipaedia

    Well done, mate.

  42. 81
    Master Baiter says:

    Perhaps this will be a precedent for the Coulson hacking settlement of one million pounds by News International.

    Yes Andy Coulson, the Conservitudes’ tonsured leader’s spokesperson spin cycler.

  43. 83
    Sir William Waad says:

    Q: What’s the difference between a catfish and a libel lawyer?

    A: One’s a slimy, scum-dwelling bottom-feeder. The other’s a fish.

    (Allegedly)

  44. 85
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Is it because the Grauniad wouldn’t get into the gimp suit?

  45. 91
    ٩◔̯◔۶ says:

    I’ll consider this matter closed when the treasonous wretch of a judge that rubber-stamped this does the honourable thing and publicly chokes to death on his own wig.

  46. 100
    Master Baiter says:

    Barclays manager (ie not on the board) Roger Jenkins is said to have earned more than £40m heading the Barclays tax team.

    The team runs rings round HMRC by recruiting the best brains and paying them shed loads for their cunning schemes.

    Post crunch Jenkins went to the middle east and flogged a great chunk of the bank to the arabs.

    Now he’s jumped ship and milking the system differently but just as well.

    Keep an eye on the Barclays thing, it stinks to high heaven.

    • 208
      resurgemus says:

      just waiting for Blair to become a non-exec then ?

    • 212
      Meanwhile in an econom near you says:

      There is criminality all over. The bank crash of 2008/2009 was about regulative failure mainly in London and New York. It’s when Goverment gets into bed with the rascals a la Gordon Brown that the Western Economy is in big trouble.

      • 229
        Master Baiter says:

        Perhaps to the dimwitted it is difficult to discern the obvious.

        The point is that the banks are over powerful. Just like the right used to moan about the supposedly over powerful unions.

        The Barclays tax avoidance team runs rings round HMRC by recruiting the best brains and paying them shed loads for their cunning schemes.

        Just recently they set up a strucutre that means 45 ex-Barclays bankers will be paid 400 million for looking after/storing a pile of toxic multi-billion pound busted carck derivative securities.

        In the meantime 80p bath plugs……. are the priority on sites like this.

        The Farrelly question aims to uncover Barclays crooked dealings.

        • 248
          Axe Rant Imp says:

          Well that’s very true, the banks are too powerful, we are unduly fascinated by kicking the shit out of politicians for being thieves.

          The two are linked, would you expect politicians intent on thieving from the taxpayer to object to bankers doing the exact same thing, is it not a good indicator of whom to trust in parliament?

          I’m not elated about the huge majority that Cameron will have, but I/we are desperate and I prefer small govt than big govt, I like less tax than more tax, and I couldn’t give a fuck whether people get jobseekers allowance or not : )

  47. 102
    The Whole Truth Should be Told says:

    The Guardian’s self-righteous indignation that it has been gagged would be more impressive if it had not at the same time been operating under a self-imposed gag whose effects are no less pernicious.

    The Guardian’s article of 20th September reporting on the settlement of the group litigation suggests that the it was Trafigura’s position alone that “hundreds of tons of illegally dumped waste had only caused “flu-like symptoms”. In fact, the agreed statement between the parties reads as follows: “Leigh Day and Co, in the light of the expert evidence, now acknowledge that the slops could at worst have caused a range of short term low level flu like symptoms and anxiety”. For the benefit of the uninitiated, Mr Rusbridger and David Leigh (the author of the piece in the Guardian) Leigh Day & Co were the Claimants’ lawyers.

    The Guardian’s website contains no reference to the proceedings in Court at which the settlement was formally approved by Mr Justice McDuff. The Guardian’s readers would need to look elsewhere (The Times, 24th September 2009) to find the following account:

    “Robert Jay, QC, for the claimants, said that they were very pleased with the settlement. Mr Glasgow said he believed that the settlement was generous. He added that some media coverage before yesterday’s hearing had been seriously misleading. The judge replied that some reports had been “wildly inaccurate” and added that from what he had seen of the papers in the case, the joint statement was “100 per cent truthful”.”

    In other words, the judge went out of his way expressly to endorse the conclusion, reached by the claimants’ lawyers in the light of the medical evidence, that the illegally dumped waste “could at worst have caused a range of short term low level flu like symptoms and anxiety”.

    Now I wonder why the judge’s comments did not find their way into the Guardian …

    • 128
      Mitch says:

      Because they’re lefty hypocrites who don’t want the truth to spoil a good story?

    • 215
      Law of diminishing returns says:

      Of course, a certain African Government is pleased with the ‘settlement’. Let’s see if the cash is passed on to the victims of the toxic tippers (and how much gets swallowed up in legal and other local ‘administration’.

  48. 109
    Lizzie says:

    Storm in a beermug.

  49. 110
    Hu Flung Dung says:

    They don’t like it up the Chutney

  50. 113
    It's a trap! says:

    They can take my hard earned tax pounds, but they can’t take my rights away!

    Oh wait a minute, is this an Injunction?

    Oh Shit. Better have a word with Labour’s Legal People and buy an Immunity Shield.

    Or perhaps they will let me buy a Title, or a lovely book of Student Loans, or really effective Immigration fastracking.

    Or a new Tongan Passport. Issued by UKPA?

  51. 114
    nell says:

    Trafigura portrays itself as a philanthropic, caring company. It’s brochure , outlining the aims of it’s Foundation says “The Environment and Education are two of our mainstream fields of action. Our nitiatives also encompass Health and Disability and Rural Development.”

    Says it all doesn’t it?

    Be nice to know who the company belongs to because it isn’t traded on the Stock Markets.

    I think the owners should be publicly exposed so that we know who is to blame for this tragedy.

    • 216
      streamfisher says:

      They seem to be a lot better at initiating disability than promoting health.

    • 217
      Law of diminishing returns says:

      Wiki tells all (although an attempt was made to change details by an employee of said company) the entry was locked down by wiki admin.

    • 240
      The Baroness Sleaze says:

      Trafigura has Galena Asset Management

  52. 118
    streamfisher says:

    Carter-Whore.

  53. 121
    Ian in Korat says:

    Farter-Fuck must be a complete bunch of cocksuckers in trying to gag the Guardian when I can read the pollution report here in the jungles of nort east Thailand. Seems that the lawyers are heading in the same direction as the dead tree press.

  54. 124
    Heidi says:

    Can we please pay due deference to Private Eye’s work in this field, and get the name of the law firm right? It’s Carter-Fuck.

    • 172
      Ian in Korat says:

      Heidi, As I recall PE initially referred to them as Farter-Fuck but F-F took them to court and protested about the “Farter”. So it was agreed that they should be henceforth referred to as Carter-Fuck in the hallowed pages of Private Eye.

  55. 126
    moo says:

    Is there a legal route for the newspapers to continue challenging the injuction even though it has been dropped, to establish the precedent?

    Is there any way to hold (reportedly) Mr Justice Sweeney accountable for fucking up?

    Sweeney and Eady are the biggest threat to freedom of the speech and freedom of the press in this country at the moment. Two aging judges and a ridiculous libel system. I hold little hope that this farce will change anything.

  56. 135
    Master Baiter says:

    Well done Labour MP Paul Farrelly member for Newcastle under Lyme who tabled the question.

  57. 136
    Master Baiter says:

    Paul Farrelly MP

  58. 140
    Master Baiter says:

    Don’t forget the Barclays bank gagging is in the question. It’s at the heart of what caused the economic crisis.

    Barclays are busy concocting more wierd structures to pay the insiders more and more.

  59. 145
    Master Baiter says:

    Newcastle under Lyme MP

  60. 153
    It's a trap! says:

    The Internet has not only helped spread Democracy in former Totalitarian States.

    It is keeping the balance of Power in this Country. Played a Major part in exposing the lies, cheating, fraud, and mis-mangement by NZ Labour Party.

    And guess which organisation tried desperately to enable gagging orders on Blogsites that were not Government approved.

    Look at Kiwiblog.co.nz

    It is a very good read, and considering that they had a bitter and twisted Labour PM for 9 years. They are getting better now!

  61. 156
    Master Baiter says:

    This site can’t bear palls.

  62. 158
    simon r says:

    Thanks to the internet we can now find Carter Rucks email address and contact phone numbers.

    Not that anyone should contact them and call them a bunch of CHUMPS or anything…

  63. 159
    Master Baiter says:

    Poul

    • 161
      Master Baiter says:

      Pour’ll

      • 162
        Master Baiter says:

        Poor old

        • 226
          Ian, Issan says:

          MB, I can offer you a service to extend your trolling hours. I am 7 hours of GMT so I can keep trolling whilst you are asleep. I assume that Liebour pay you above the national minimum wage and provide you with taxpayer funded office accommodation and computers. Tell Mandelbum and Alastair that I can do it all much more cheaply from Thailand.

  64. 174
    Anonymous says:

    Carter-Ruck tried steppin’ to your insane skillz and got pwn3d.

  65. 176
    The power of the internet cannot be contained within the paltry constraints of a judge's chambers says:

    There is a salutary lesson in this for both Carter-Ruck,their clients and not least the learned judge. An obscure and barely known report has because of Trafigura’s actions to supress comment now taken on the status of a “cause celebre” and ensured that Minton’s report has now been morewidely dissseminated than it ever would have been by trying to supress the reporting of a Parliamentary Question by Paul Farelly.

    To use the words of Lord Mandelson – “What complete and utter “chumps” !”

  66. 177

    Trafigura shareholders need to transfer ownership of the company to Jacqui Smith immediately, have her apologise about the technical breach of the toxic waste dumping rules to parliament this afternoon, and they’ll be home free by this evening without a stain on their escutcheons.

  67. 183
    ANon says:

    Solicitors? According to the Law Society website they’re all “Legal Managers”

    • 213
      udderly 'orrible says:

      We’ve done that one and been there several threads ago (Scotchlands housemaid), do keep up!

  68. 184
    Meanwhile in an economy near you says:

    Life’s tough for the pound right now

    A number of factors have made life even tougher for the pound so far this week. For one thing, there’s the unedifying sight of our politicians’ undignified reaction to the expenses scandal flaring up all over again. As Allister Heath put it in City AM this morning, “Britain’s political establishment is indeed its weakest link, with insufficient collective self-control to take decisions that are truly in the public interest. No wonder we are in such a mess.”

    Nicely put. Perhaps more important to the currency markets is the very obvious fact that no one is really proposing any concrete ways of dealing with Britain’s dodgy public finances. On the one hand, neither the LibDems nor – in particular – the Tories want to reveal any fully-fledged ideas for fear that Labour will pinch them.

    And in the absence of any policies to pinch, Labour seems to be scrabbling around somewhat desperately for solutions that will enable it to spend even more money yet somehow make a claim for fiscal responsibility. Hence we have the notion that everything from the Dartford Tunnel to the Royal Mint will be up for grabs in a mass sale of the family silver. You get the idea that if there was a sort of global pawnbroker for nation states, we’d have headed off down there by now.

    As if that wasn’t bad enough, we had plenty of other reminders about the state of the UK economy. The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) said that it reckons UK interest rates could stay at 0.5% until 2011, and below 2% until 2014, during which time the pound could fall below €1 (although, says the CEBR, that depends on how worried markets get about the “long-term sustainability of the euro”).

    Meanwhile, accountancy group PricewaterhouseCoopers says that Britain is going to have to raise taxes by £26bn a year, or cut public spending by 17% a year in the three years to 2013-14, over and above measures proposed in this year’s Budget.

    (Thanks to Moneyweek.com for text)

    Very succinct.

    • 277
      Tapestry says:

      Institute of Fiscal Studies says cuts must be £100 billion a year which is 15/17% of public spending. Even if this is achieved, it will take 20 years before borrowing returns to pre-crisis levels.

  69. 186
    Keebird says:

    60 Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the Court of Appeal judgment in May 2009 in the case of Michael Napier and Irwin Mitchell v Pressdram Limited in respect of press freedom to report proceedings in court.”

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmordbk2/91013o02.htm

    Cater Fuck lost this case for Michael Napier and his precious legal firm in a huge way – here is the bailli link:

    http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2009/443.html

    it just shows how people and dishonest firms above the law think they can get way with anything they like…. just like Napier being given a gong in 2005 for his services to the legal profession (but forgot to tell anyone that he was being officially reprimanded for a so called “minor offense”)….now how does that work and what does jack straw have to say about that???

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/24/law-society-investigation-michael-napier

  70. 190
    REEVO says:

    Trafigura

    Trafigura is one of the largest independent companies trading commodities today.

    They handle every element involved in the sourcing and trading of crude oil, petroleum products, renewable energies, metals, metal ores and concentrates for industrial consumers.

    1,900 of our people operate in offices in 42 countries across the globe to give us the local knowledge to anticipate and respond to variations in global supply and demand.

    In the oil sector, Trafigura has access to over 30 million barrels of storage facilities through a combination of owned terminals under its PUMA network and long-term lease agreements with third party oil terminals; we also time charter in excess of 60 vessels worldwide.

    In the metals and minerals sector, Trafigura currently owns and operates concentrate storage facilities and one mine in Peru. Additionally, Trafigura is a significant stakeholder in a smelter and in various publicly listed mining entities.

    Capitalising on resource trading and investment expertise Trafigura has diversified into asset management through the development of offshore hedge funds, or so they say!

    So, if they are activities are so above board with regard to taxation why should the public not be informed, smoke fire mirrors….

    What have they got to hide…….

  71. 193

    Streisand effect or what?

    This is now front page of the politics sections of both the Telegraph and even Pravda: yet strangely not the Times

  72. 195

    Apparently Vladimir Putin sent a letter congratulating Gordon, Jackeee Smith etc on their superb news management capabilities recently

  73. 197
    shelling-out says:

    Who is on CR’s notepaper as a Consultant? Anyone we know of?

  74. 198
    Eileen Critchley says:

    I gagged once.

  75. 199
    Grim Reaper says:

    Job done. What next..
    Ministry of (In) Justice etc.
    Jaqui Smith X
    Baroness Scotland X
    Jack Straw X
    Lord Bach X

    • 202
      Keebird says:

      Jaqui Smith X
      Baroness Scotland X
      Jack Straw X
      Lord Bach X

      ASWELL AS BARONESS SCOTLAND’S PRO BONO ENVOY

  76. 204
    A Micro-Managing Monetary Moron says:

    It was’nae ma’ fult ye un’stn!

  77. 206
    Barrow Nessy Udder, sucking on the Great Sociashitist Tit says:

    I’m guid with fuid!

    Try me?

    It’s what I do

  78. 222
    Law of diminishing returns says:

    Tarter Cluck are still proclaiming Toxigura… as Recent News(for September) on their rather uninspiring web site (looks about five years old). A success in their media section Looks a very sad item today.

    Ah diddums.

  79. 223
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Please forgive me for lapsing back into FiveBellies mode but I would love
    to know if Mr.Richard Limpknees FiveBellies is still on Jacqui’s payroll at
    the annual sum of £40K. His specialist subject was to write to the local
    newspapers commending the work of Mrs.FiveBellies but he forgot to mention
    that he was Mr.FiveBellies.
    He was always so busy I can’t imagine how he found time ever to have a wank.

  80. 224
    Technomist says:

    I see the Independent are claiming this as a famous victory for themselves.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/victory-for-media-in-gagging-order-battle-1802004.html

  81. 236
    Lady Gagga says:

    Poke ‘er face

  82. 238
    Anonymous says:

    Hi everyone, please go along to my blog and give me support. I am a young card-carrying Tory and am keen to be heard! http://conservative-vision.blogspot.com/

  83. 239
    Anonymous says:

    Another “triumph” for the right of free speech in the UK

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8304926.stm

  84. 242
    Shocked of Sheen says:

    Well done to Guido and the other leading bloggers who blew this up and out to the blogosphere today.
    Before the web this story would have died on the spike, and been buried by lunchtime, Carter- Ruck would have charged a massive fee for their services, filthy oil companies could have continued to poison anyone they liked, or did’nt like come to that, without fear of publicity.
    May these creeps continue to be unmasked for what they are…a bunch of greedy so-and-sos who don’t deserve to sleep soundly ever again.

    • 255
      Tapestry says:

      if only they were the problem.

      if the guardian had lost the case, as they had, and decided to appeal, their case would go to the Supreme Court which recognises EU law, not the British Constitution.

      The Lisbon treaty was being applied by the judge in ignoring British Constitutional conventions. Carter Ruck are telling the Guardian that their campaign to crush the British Constitution and replace it with the EU has been successful.

      The Guardian found that they didn’t like what they have been shouting for all these years.

      This episode should not be billed ‘greedy lawyers’, but ‘a lesson for the Guardian’.
      Will they finally get what the EU is bringing – an end to democracy in Britain.

    • 256
  85. 244
    streamfisher says:

    Gordon Brown and Democracy:

  86. 245
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Don’t you just love the BBC? They can’t wait to big up the Guardian. So the blogger world or Twitter had nothing to do with it then you BBC drug addicts?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8304483.stm

  87. 251
    Seymour says:

    The Minton report is linked below, in case antone is interested.

    http://wikileaks.org/leak/waterson-toxicwaste-ivorycoast-%C3%A92009.pdf

    • 260
      Tapestry says:

      A solicitor named Carter Ruck
      Said to their clients,’you’re in luck.
      Your victims can riot
      But MPs must keep quiet.
      On Lisbon they’ll all have to suck.’

      • 276
        Carol Ann Duffy says:

        Carter-Ruck, Carter-Ruck
        You clearly don’t give a fuck.
        Oily brass and dirty muck
        This time you shits are out of luck.

  88. 258
    me says:

    well done to all involved in getting this out.

    I have one lingering concern/question…
    the guardian was gagged, but please can someone in the know comment as to whether this is also likely to have applied to all other news outlets ? (i have heard that these injunctions apply to those that “become aware of them”)
    i noted this morning that the telegraph mentioned the ranking of Trafigura in twitter but otherwise restrained itself and the BBC just repeated the guardian story…or was this likely to be overzealous internal lawyers/ lack of backbone.
    if so, why did the spectator get away with it.

    PS: yes, it´s good news today, but think how many other secret injunctions are out there……

    • 265

      I think it was since Spycatcher (who else remembers that farrago?) that an injunction against one paper was held to bind any others that heard about it… That’s why all the craven lickspittles kept schtum this morning (with the honourable exception of the Spectator, which now has my subscription).

      I wonder how much Carter-Ruck will be billing their client for this masterpiece of PR

  89. 259
    Anonymous says:

    What is fucking hilarious to me is the irony that Tory Bear professes to be in favour of ‘freedom of speech’ American style, and anti ‘gagging’ Carter-F@ck style, but then will not allow any comments even mildly critical of him onto the site.

    For the avoidance of doubt, he is a hypocritical wanker who wouldn’t recognise proper investigative journalism if it came up and bit him on the arse, but he is quite willing to cannibalise whatever passes for gossip which other people have rustled up, or use ‘Sunshine Cops’ as a handy ‘flag of convenience’ for him to fulfil his ambitions to carve a career in politics while porking as many women and drinking as much wine as is humanly possible.

    Toff Tory Twat.

  90. 261
  91. 264
    13eastie says:

    Carter Fuck were on to a good thing here…

    Who wants to hear what the troughing cµnt politicians are saying anyway?

    Let one set of parasites deprive the other of the “oxygen of publicity” and improve the content of our newspapers in one fell swoop!

    Long live Jordan and Peter!

  92. 266
    Chemicalz says:

    Further gaggage by C-R, this time the Institution of Chemical Engineers

    http://www.tcetoday.com/tcetoday/NewsDetail.aspx?nid=12188

  93. 267
    Roger Rigid says:

    Do you think carter fuck got a few nasty emails today? No? Not enough?

    lawyers@carter-ruck.com

  94. 275

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    cassycross says:

    responsible stricter available mitigating gps



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