October 12th, 2009

MPs’ Standards Committee Says :
Jacqui Can Keep Every Penny She Fiddled if She Says ‘Sorry’

The Standards and Privileges Committee concludes

Whilst we acknowledge that there are mitigating circumstances, Ms Smith clearly breached the rules of the house by wrongly designating her main home from 2004 to 2009. We recommend that Ms Smith apologise to the House by means of a personal statement.

Guido is not sure that it should rest there.

Ms Smith accepts that she also breached the rules by failing to notify the house authorities for one year that she had changed the address of her designated main home. Ms Smith gained nothing from this lapse, and the public interest was not harmed. We therefore recommend no further action.

Absolutely untrue. If she had only been able to claim for the rent of her sisters spare room she would not have been able to refurbish her main family home at the taxpayers’ expense. She gained everything from the kitchen sink to bath plugs – which she would not have been able to do if she was just claiming for the rent on her sister’s place.

When her duplicity was first exposed in the media she also, let us not forget, claimed in interviews to spend most of her time in London. When her diary and police records were examined by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner, this was found to be untrue.

She has not been asked by the Standards and Privileges Committee to repay a single penny.


618 Comments

  1. 1
    26%er says:

    I’ll still vote for her.

    • 9
      20%er says:

      …. and me

    • 13

      Which only goes to prove that Labour voters are deranged.

    • 39
      Anonymous says:

      Here’s one idiot.

    • 44
      geoffery says:

      Is this the way they are going to reduce the prison population? If found guilty then just a sorry will do and not only that you get to keep the swag.

    • 47
      on the dole for 10 years, can't read or write says:

      yeah but its rasist to not give me my childsupport and jobseekers allowunce init – my humen rites. vote labor

    • 84
      NUMP T says:

      Is Stuart Bell the leader of the MPs trade Union?

      National Union of MPs and Troughers

    • 163
      Anonymous says:

      he said she spent more nights in Redditch – one of the tests for MPs determining their main home – between 28 June 2007 and 31 March 2009.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8301878.stm

      Smith lied, she said the complete opposite in her press statements. LIAR.

      • 192
        Mr Ned says:

        So she will be forced to issue an (insincere, false, utterly meaningless and worthless) apology. Woopeefuckingdoo!

        She commits a fraud on the public purse and is merely told to apologise? What is she? fucking three years old or something? Every word in her apology will be dripping with deceit and will, no doubt, be accompanied with many excuses as to why she believes that she did NOTHING wrong and how it is all so unfair to her. Harriet “Cobweb twat” Harman will be incandescent that a woman is being unfairly stitched up by all the rapists in the commons and Brown will say nobody in the labour party did anything wrong really it’s all the fault of those nasty tory toffs.

        STRING THE NEW LABOUR BITCHES AND BASTARDS UP!

        • 272
          Hamish Macbeth says:

          The Standards Committees report that she just apologises is dynamite for a judicial review or private prosecution….

          I wonder if it work work for benefit cheats and fraudsters up before the beak at Crown Court to say “Sorry your Honour – can I go now and keep the cash as per the precedent set in the case of Smith”

          • Chomping at the bit says:

            Only they have covered this by saying the standard of proof is only the civil standard which is less than the criminal standard.

    • 253
      wayne kerr says:

      I still want to splatter her kebab with my hot chilli sauce

    • 297
      Nothing to hide, nothing to fea, I got away with it all says:

      • 362
        Great Granddad says:

        If Smith should do a short spell in clink, the members of the MP’s Standards Committee should do a short spell on the end of a rope. Theirs’ is the far worse crime.

    • 609
      Off the cuff says:

      Cretin

  2. 2
    anon in local government says:

    FFS – are these people completely above the Law?

    How do they think this is going down with the little people?

    Unbelievable that she could get away with it – it brings the House & our Judiciary into complete disrepute.

    Two legs good…..

    • 40
      elusivelestoc says:

      They’re all “First Above Equals” doncha know.

    • 56
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      It sounds premeditated to piss simple folk off so that we welcome eurocontrol with grateful arms.

      • 68
        tat says:

        civil war it is then.
        the people did not declare war, the politicians did.

        • 156
          who dunit says:

          War, yes indeed…….no choice really, unless surrendering to this shit is a choice.
          I no longer conscent to this parliament, they have declared war on me so I am now declaring war on them.
          I speak for myself

          • Mr Ned says:

            It is time for me to declare a Lawful Rebellion against the traitors of our Parliament.

            If you need to likewise declare a lawful rebellion, the wording follows at this link:

            http://www.tpuc.org/files/file/First_Affidavit.doc

            You can LAWFULLY refute the powers of the traitors in our Parliament as we ARE A SOVEREIGN PEOPLE!

            We must, en masse, lawfully withdraw our consent for the Government and their statutes thus making them legally invalid. Any statutes (contracts) as exist can be considered frustrated. Only the COMMON LAW applies to a free man.

          • Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

            Mr Ned. Now we know why half the population are either getting benefits (their daily bread) or work for the government.

        • 329
          Technomist says:

          You and whose army?

          • Summer_Breeze says:

            To whom, ought we to send it Mr Ned?
            What actions might we be able to take, on the back of it?
            In short, would it do any good?

      • 132
        Archer Karcher says:

        The EU are already in control, the phoney “parliament” is a mere distraction, allowing our real government to operate freely in its relentless removal of all of our freedoms.

        When they have no further use for Westminster, they will close it as they will close all UK Embassies around the world when the EU Foreign Minister is appointed, as it suits them.

        Until then, the illusion of a utterly corrupt democracy, is a perfect tool which will them, to replace it with a new and unelected Nomenklatura, that will rule in the best interests of the masses, unlike wicked, depraved and failed democracy.

        It is indeed a massive set up.

        • 186
          tat says:

          the european cowards have refused to pull their weight in Afghanistan and Iraq.
          we have defeated them militarily before and we will have to defeat them again.
          we saved the europeans from hitler’s fascism and they despise us for doing so.
          we have dragged them from their cesspits of poverty and shit and we have given them wealth and their freedom and yet and yet they spit in our faces.
          the list of COWARDS is as follows:
          the french COWARDS
          the spanish COWARDS
          the german COWARDS
          the italian COWARDS
          there are many more EUROPEAN COWARDS but the above COWARDS are the most COWARDLY, they are COWARDS TO A MAN.
          Britain never never never will be slaves to EUROPEAN COWARDS AND UNGRATEFUL WHORES.

    • 142
      Koba says:

      I agree it’s disgusting and shameless exploitation of good will. MP’s should remember that some of Her Majesty’s subjects work hard for what they receive, only to be over-taxed and the money squandered on politicians’ pet projects. I have seen little in return for all the tax paid over the last 12 years of Labour. If Brown’s Britain was such a success why were we still paying income tax before the credit bubble burst?
      The politicians are corrupt and they can’t see it. All wrongly claimed money must be repaid with interest. They should also be fined and the ‘flippers’ should go to prison

    • 316
      Anonymous says:

      Of course, now keep paying your taxes like a good citizen Naughty Night Nurse III is on cable tonight, you don’t think my husband should pay for his wank films do you?

    • 461
      Cook in your own stew says:

      Peter Mandelson angry at how MPs are being attacked over their expenses claims “changing the rules” of the inquiry…. just like the tax man does to the hoi-polloi when he launches an investigation.

      • 526
        Chumpy's Chump says:

        What an oily slug this Mandelson is. Looking at his reptilian features, hearing the over-honeyed voice, I need to be sick.
        What a ‘chump’.

  3. 3
    Old Man says:

    I had to pay Capital Gains tax last year… but then I’m a mug. Spin and spin as much as you like… we won’t forget..!!

  4. 4
    Thats News says:

    Can they not see they are prolonging the agony of expensesgate? They are fools to themselves.

    • 276

      Very pleased that Inquisition is back.

      Finland Meerkat = consonant

      or whatever the ‘Cash phrase’ is.

      Inquisition is the bottom 10% barometer. When even that bunch give up posting then its really just Gordon, Jacqui and Ed left.

  5. 5
    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:

    My bladder just reached the same temperature as the surface of the sun.

  6. 6
    Denzil says:

    Go for her through the Sunlight Centre – she’s unfit to be in the HoC (most of them are sadly) but this is the Establishment closing ranks, As my Antiguan friend Sir Horace Toker would say; “Fuck she!”

    • 110
      bandersnatch says:

      This high-up civil servant has been brought in to be both tough and fair, not partisan. How come someone like Jacqui Smith gets effectively let off and other MPs are being caned?

      Bar after bar of Sunlight Soap is needed I feel.

      • 161
        Virgins for Labor says:

        Yes please we would love soap with Jacqui Smith on it. Just don’t make it too expensive or large – we couldn’t stretch to that.

  7. 7
    Sue Tzuzir says:

    I hope the good people of Bromsgrove throw her to the wolves come the general election

    • 16
      TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

      Wouldn’t bank on it – the retards of Salford had that chance with flipper chipmunk and chose to keep her in.

      • 211
        Arsophist says:

        Yes, but the Lesser Ginger Chipmunk of Salford responded by waving a piece of paper with £13000 written on it, and Smith has ignored that precedent and merely issued a statement saying how “disappointed” she is. Five bellies feels well and truly needled, despite having got off scotch free.

        This proves two things: she got her ministerial job because McLoony recognized someone else with a chip on her shoulder every bit as big as his. Second, that she is not at all happy at having been made to walk and is still seething about it 6 months on. Who pushed her?

        • 497
          One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

          They should not have pushed her just operated the trapdoor lever.
          Smith is a liar and a cheat and should be up in front of the old bill not up in front of fellow troughers for an apology.

          In regard to the demented chipmunk she produced 13 grand just like that. Shame her constituents would find it difficult to produce 13 quid let alone 13k. As for the cheque was it ever cashed? Wonder if she charged us for fixing her slashed tyres. Lay odds on she did.

          They should both be arrested for fraud, deception and while they are at it have the Hooness Scotties for employment and tax irregularities and that bitch Hardbint for leaving the scene off and accident.

          I am absoluetly sick to the back teeth with these twats stating no intention of wrongdoing, Technical breach only and its within the rules.

          FUCK OFF ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • 50
      Porky Smith says:

      Her constituency is Redditch, not Bromsgrove.

    • 287
      Sue Tzuzir says:

      Apologies. Redditch is next door to Bromsgrove. Both have the misfortune to be represented by a pair of troughing twits who hopefully will both be shown the door.

  8. 8
    Infamy, they've all got it in for me says:

    What’s her majority?

  9. 9
    elusivelestoc says:

    Of course she hasn’t been asked to repay anything. This is because of the benefit we, the public, have received by having the magnificent Jacqui as Home Secretary. Just look at what we got for what I’m sure she considers a mere pittance: 1) Uh 2) Hmmmm 3) Let me think about this a little longer.

    • 24
      Small things humour me says:

      We DID get a good laugh at her horror that her husband thinks so little of her and her grotty fat ugly body that he had to resort to watching OTHER women in videos!

      And I AM looking forward to the moment when Brown is driven out of Downing St on May 7th and I shout out;

      “F’ Off you criminal!”

      I know,I know,small things excite me,but when we have been so badly anally shafted by these criminal gangs called the Labour Govt,any small bit of humour is a mighty release to the sheer ANGER I feel about Brown.

      If he was lying on the roadside,I am sure my steering wheel would suffer a voluntary twitch to finish the job.

    • 28
      Anonymous says:

      4) Priceless entertainment

  10. 11
    Enough is enough and that is today says:

    I cannot take any more of this

    • 296

      Take some time out. Watch crap in the attic instead.

      Today I went up the loft ladder at a house in Westminster and came down with A 33% government stake in the production of Uranium which should attract some Iranian and North Korean buyers, and the old game of Tote- topoly. Worth a few quid..hang on there’s some bits missing…
      Oh, and a student loan book to a French exchange student that still has £30,000 of its original £30,300 still owing.

      Amazing what you can find when you rummage around.
      Hello, what’s this in the corner? Looks like the a barely started Airfix kit of two Aircraft carriers..

    • 303
      Ann MP says:

      Yipee! All the more for me then.

  11. 17
    Paul Nash says:

    FFS…………

  12. 18
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    This is the conclusion reached by a bunch of MPs.

    Not exactly an independent judgement, is it?

  13. 20
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    So what legal precedent does this ruling set?

    Will the sunlight’s case now collapse or strengthen?

    • 24
      Master Baiter says:

      Collapse of the sock puppetting Sunlight effort.

      Guidiot the Oaf says thanks for the contributions though.

      • 37
        Anonymous says:

        ohh, you’re soo witty Jonty – what do you do for an encore?

        Let me guess, you call the opposition “The Conservitides”

        Boring – NEXT!!!

        • 54
          Master Baiter says:

          Let’s just see how it plays out, shall we?

          Let’s put Julie Kirkbride (orange slices, kinky lace) and her mythical claims against Jacqui Smith’s and see how it plays with the Great British public?

          The Conservitudes are bricking it.

          Wisteria
          Tennis court
          Helipad
          Moat

          Yes, they’re all in it together, that’s for sure.

          • tat says:

            gordon brown paid over £6000 to his brother who claims he paid it to a cleaner.
            why would a person claiming public funds for a cleaner then pay that money to a third party and not directly to the person providing the service that is being charged for?
            there is ofcourse only one explanation: gordon brown’s brother was profiting from the transaction.
            so that means gordon brown is a fraudster and his brother is a thief.
            sons of a manse?
            don’t make me larf.
            a pair of common thieves more like.
            innit.

          • shelling-out says:

            A lot of us have never said otherwise. If any MP is caught claiming expenses to which they are cllearly not entitled, they should be sacked and taken to court.

            You seem hellbent on focusing on the Conservatives. Can you not see that MP’s from all sides should set an example?

            Shame on you.

          • Putin says:

            I believe a mythical claim is a mythical claim. Why is a Labour one somehow more moral than a Conservative one? Do tell.

            What they claimed for has little relevance.If it was illegal ’tis a crime regardless. Obviously you believe some thefts are more equal than others.

            Who did have the power to change the procedures in the last 12 years?

            Let me think…..

          • udderly 'orrible says:

            “Wisteria
            Tennis court
            Helipad
            Moat…”

            at least they troughed in style, on liebour’s class-obsessed side its porn and bathplugs! ….puuleeease

          • Mr Ned says:

            MB is such a twat that she believes that the labour Government should be allowed to steal from the public purse with complete impunity.

            I do not see anyone defending the indefensible expenses from any tory MP. Even tories are disgusted by them, but it seems that some deranged lunatics and traitors to this country are more than happy for labour to help themselves to our hard earned money.

            MB has obviously never worked a day in her life! She makes me feel almost as sick as the disgusting thieving bastards and bitches that she supports in new labour.

          • Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

            I agree Shelling-Out. The focus should be on the conservatives. Well done.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            That’s what socialists do – steal from the public; socialism in a nutshell. Wee Ginger Jonty is just a wannabe trougher and will do anything to be landed into a safe Labour seat, including this second rate trolling. Bound to get him noticed among the powers that be.

          • Hugh Bristic says:

            I do hope that the prime minister and his brother paid national insurance and tax on the cleaners’ wages. Also did they check passports and visas?

          • Master Baiter says:

            What about Kirkbride’s erstwhile ‘fiancee’?

            He was gagging for it, apparently.

            tag – Milligan, Bromsgrove, neighbouring constituency, Smith

  14. 23
    Obama is a Twat says:

    What chance a private prosecution on behalf of the people I wonder? also perhaps a formal complaint to the Police?

    • 34
      The odour says:

      Ahhh – the POLICE.

      A little like complaining to the camp commandant about the smell coming from the chimneys.

    • 59
      Chomping at the bit says:

      Didn’t the Sunlight people say they were going to privately prosecute if the Crown didn’t?

  15. 26
    J. Smith says:

    Fuck you prole bastards, I can,and will do what I want.

  16. 27
    Johnny says says:

    Did her sister’s place have any work done on it as the supposed main home of the Second Home Secretary? Somewhat of a security risk if it didn’t.

  17. 29
    George Bathurst says:

    There would seem to be a clear pattern emerging in these investigations and the authorities’ complicity. They can no longer deny that nothing was done wrong so they claim that it has now been dealt with, move on nothing to see here, ‘no evidence’ etc. The approach to Damien Green’s arrest is exactly the same.

    Ditto with the police ‘investigations’ into cash for honours, John Prescott, Rod Aldridge and a thousand other acts of political corruption that they’ve not even considered because nobody forced them to.

    It’s high time for a judicial review of both the police and the CPS. This will force them to stop ignoring all the evidence. Would anybody else support this?

    • 60
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      and where exactly are we to find the judges?

      • 83
        shelling-out says:

        …..it seems every department is rotten to the core.

        Is there anyone in government or associated with them who isn’t directly answerable to them, or doesn’t have their fingers in the till?

      • 202
        George Bathurst says:

        I think it all comes down to volume. If enough people can make their voice heard, not just on blogs like this but also directly by complaining to the police and the courts, then we stand a greater chance of eventual success.

        We don’t know what the judges would say because nobody has yet asked them. Also remember that the guilty or not verdict in the more serious cases would be delivered not by a judge but by a jury. On the evidence of the CPS’s reluctance to let any case involving a politician go anywhere near a court, perhaps we would have more luck than you think.

        • 247
          Mr Ned says:

          In a nutshell, we would have to be extremely tenacious and never give up. Make a formal complaint against these vile scum to the police and then ruthlessly follow them up. Do not accept a whitewash. If the police refuse to take action, then make complaints against the police for failing in their duty to investigate a crime and in failing to uphold their sworn oath. Go to a neighbouring police force and make a complaint there and get everything in writing with the appropriate crime numbers, complaint numbers etc and follow them up. Go up the chain of command to the very top. Do not let matters rest FORCE THE BASTARDS TO DO THEIR JOBS!

    • 231
      udderly 'orrible says:

      £150,000 minimum for a smallish judicial review, who will pay?

      • 232
        George Bathurst says:

        Legal aid.

        • 286
          Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

          No one is entiltled to Legal Aid. The government tied that loose end up years ago.
          If you have more than £625 gross at the end of the month after paying rent or mortgage you will not qualify. Even if you did – you would have to contribute to the legal costs.

          • George Bathurst says:

            Then we simply need somebody unemployed to front the complaint. A pensioner angry about living in escalating poverty after a life of hard work would be even better.

            Plan B would be to challenge the govt’s closing off of Legal Aid, and hence justice, to anybody except the very poorest and the very richest, i.e. most of us. This is illegal under the Human Rights Convention. Here we would need a solicitor/barrister prepared to work on a no-win-no-fee basis and we could run the challenge in parallel with the judicial review.

          • Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

            Er, george. this unemployed person would need to show harm or loss, personally. I wouldn’t bother because there is no justice and no democracy.

          • George Bathurst says:

            Even the unemployed pay taxes which contribute to MPs expenses. They have therefore suffered personal loss.

            There is justice and there is democracy. It just requires that ordinary people make it so. If you take the attitude that all is lost, then it is. Conversely, if you fight them it’s amazing how quickly bullies back down.

  18. 31
    bergen says:

    Extraordinary decision.As you say,the proposition that she didn’t benefit from it is patently untrue.Presumably their decisions are protected by Parliamentary Privilege and not subject to Judicial Review.We seem to be ruled by gangsters.

    • 332
      George Bathurst says:

      Bergen, Parliament may be protected by its privileges. However, criminal offences are not. Jacqui has broken the 2006 Fraud Act. There is nothing to stop people reporting her to their local police station. If the police refuse to investigate: then report them and make a fuss in the local paper. If they still refuse to act, ask a very poor friend to request a judicial review.

      This would seem to me a better way forward than that of the Sunlight Center for Open Politics, where they are raising money to launch a private prosecution, although there’s no reason why they can’t both be tried and the more approaches that are tried the better.

  19. 33
    Lynne Truss says:

    Have you never heard of possessive apostrophes, Guido?

  20. 35
    Davy says:

    Forget comic relief,send your donation to Sunlight this will enable the private prosecution to put this trougher behind bars.

  21. 37
    Jacqui Smith says:

    Sorry commons

  22. 51
    pissed off voter says:

    Sooner or later one of these honourable politicians will be assassinated by an angry voter. I wonder if they will then understand.

  23. 52
    Anonymous says:

    Extract from HMRC guidance to sub-contractors

    Friends and Family Allowance

    Some existing dispensations also include a tax free scale rate for staying with family and friends when employees are required to stay overnight on business. HMRC has reviewed this policy and concluded that there is no legal basis for giving tax relief because it is not linked to any specific underlying expense. Therefore, a scale rate for staying with family and friends will not be included within the advisory system or given in any new dispensations. All agreed tax and NICs free scale rates in existing dispensations covering such an allowance will be withdrawn when the dispensation comes up for review.

    No “specific underlying expense” so she maybe could not even claim rent if staying with family – Civil Servants have a very minimal alloweance for staying with friends/family.

    She is a Political Pinocchio who has lied and lied to us. That she is still squealing have gotten away with fraud is beyond belief

  24. 53
    Anonymous says:

    You really do have to go some to break the rules (seeing as the rules mostly said back then that you can claim for anything you want), and to then be told that you broke those lax rules but still don’t need to pay it back is pretty fucking awful.

    It’s bad enough that these things are classed as expenses instead of perks (which in itself is blatent tax fraud), but to even fiddle those takes the piss, it’s fraud twice over; tax fraud for classing it as an expense instead of a perk, and fraud against your employer (in this case all of us) for claiming for something which even your employer said wasn’t a valid expense.

    fucking pathetic. send the bitch to jail.

    • 171
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Jail is to good for her. Come the GE that is one to watch and sure to be on every network list. The swing will be huge.

  25. 55
    The Cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    Thieving, lying, fat bastard Smith gets away with it, what an utter shower of shyte the S&P committee is.
    Presumably it’s infested with Labour vermin, but one wonders just how in league all MP’s are with regards their troughing.

    Its one thing to steal from the taxpayer, but she lied about it, and still gets away with just an apology.
    In New Labour’s looking glass world it is of course entirely appropriate a thief is responsible for law and order, but if the people of Redditch vote her back in they deserve everything they get.

    • 67

      Avoid the state stealing from you, goto jail.
      Steal money extorted from taxpayers, nothing.

      Folks, the democratic illusion’s totally over.

      • 225
        backwoodsman says:

        pay attention AC 1, it was announced earlier in the week, that no one could go, because the jails are all full.
        ps, to Lynn Truss, I would have spelt it gaol, but AC 1 is clearly more errudite than me and he spelt it with a j.

    • 177
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      There is NOT a cat in hells chance of her getting in at the GE. She is toast.

      • 235
        udderly 'orrible says:

        Why insult “toast”, she’s shite, turgid, glutinous, maggot-infested, tribalised, liebour shite.

        • 284
          Mr Ned says:

          She is the poster-girl for the shit-meared malignant-tumour filled necrotic carcass of democratic and legitimate, honest, prudent new labour.

          Can anyone remember when that obviously false and feeble cheap veneer was still believed by anyone?

          Prudence? Democratic? Open? Honest? Determined to EARN our trust? Ethical foreign policy?

          Ladies and Gentlemen, the sickest joke in the world cannot be found on sickopedia.com. It exists in our country and it is in our Government. It is two simple words. NEW LABOUR!

  26. 58
    Eileen Critchley says:

    Come on we want more moats and duck houses!

    So Deepthroat Smith has got away with it! Boooorrrrrring……..MP’s on the take….its sooo Summer ‘09!

    Give us some secret affairs proven by receipts, come on where’s the sex in all this! It’s there, it must be!

    We want suicides! come on where’s the first jumper or orange chewing pervo when you need ‘em! How about with an Antique shotgun in the servants quarters now that would be very Tory! Or what about a Waco style shoot out with Blair’s Babes! Fuck me that would be good!

    Come on lads! liven it up a bit!

  27. 62
    Censorship - the first refuge of.... says:

    Wow – this site is really getting tame – moderation is way over the top.

    I’m off to Iain Dales for some strong words.

  28. 63
    Obama is a Twat says:

    So this ugly fat slug gets to keep this money, whilst robbing injured soldiers of their compensation. Wonderful. i bet she gets voted in by Liebour scum again as well.

  29. 64

    Crime Pays.

    Labour = Criminals.

    • 75
      The Inquisition says:

      Financial misconduct = Conservatives.

      • 95
        More Tories Please says:

        Financial misconduct = Conservatives???

        I’d love to the logic behind that argument.

        • 290
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          You call that an argument?

        • 353
          Mr Ned says:

          Well that is EASY…

          You see when Labour were last in power in the 1970’s the economy bust, they had to go cap in hand to the IMF for a bail-out. The unions had too much control and our inneficient old industries dragged the economy into the mud. We ran out of money.

          The tories got in and after 18 years of many painful decisions, and two recessions, the structural fundamentals of economic growth had finally been restored and the economy was very healthy. Our pension reserves were the envy of Europe, our national debt was low and falling, productivity high, Manufacturing was expanding again, exports up. and things were pretty good. They were not perfect by any means. But the growth in the economy was broad-based and sustainable. The main structural flaws in the economy had been removed. Even labour could not wreck it quickly, and to be fair, did not even try to for the first two years, well, other than having 3 tax raising budgets in those first two years that is, oh and and selling off the gold far too cheaply oh and that stupid decision to wreck the tax incentives that built the huge pensions surplus as well as taking the necessary oversight of the markets away from the Bank of England, that is. So the tax and spend party was just the tax party, but they did hold to their version of the tories spending limits for two years.

          SO then after the first two years, the old tax AND SPEND party started with a vengeance. They also made lending so much easier and encouraged bucketloads of it. Rampant amounts of irresponsible lending to get the economy moving fast enough to create enough tax revenue to continue their spending lust.

          This created a huge amount of money to circulate the economy, BUT the average tax-payer wasn’t seeing any of it. The increases in tax over the cost of living sucked up all the surplus. People started mortgaging their homes to feel better off, because (a) it felt good and (b) was easy and (c) they wanted to have a bit of this extra cash that was flowing about. But as fast as people could borrow, the Government was taking the economic growth in increased taxes. What did they do with the taxes? Some good actually. Loads of money going into health and education. Massive increases in the service sector spending. Only, the services were not improving fast enough. A LOT of the money was not managed well, and most of it became wasted on bureaucracy and pen-pushing box-ticking, PC and health and safety and other “eye catching” middle-management initiatives. The pen pushers had to create something to justify their existence and even (dare I suggest) satisfy their drive to build their own little tax-payer funded empires. Well who can blame them? I mean, they had massive re-mortgages to finance along-with increased university tuition fees (in spite of labour’s promise NOT to increase them) for their kids and a myriad other financial commitments to arrange. This was REAL GROWTH! except that it was ALL based on debt. It was NOT based on productivity, or genuine “investment” (as in to create a financial return). It was debt funded growth in its entirety and it was a huge illusion.

          Well that was clearly unsustainable and it only took them 8 years of unrestrained spending to run out of money. (1999 – 2007) And in response to running out of money, they BORROWED EVEN MORE!!!!

          So now, we look to having the tories rescue the busted economy once more, only it is busted up much worse than the last time they had to come in and repair the economy…….

          Oh hang on… That is not exactly what you meant by “I’d love to the logic behind that argument.” was it?

          • Master Baiter says:

            Too long and pretty pointless.
            This is a crisis of financial ‘free market’ fundamentalism gone wrong.
            The US banks are state controlled.
            The US auto companies are state controlled.

            The UK Labour administration did not effect the state control of banks and manufacturing in the US.

            Lesson over

      • 166

        You’re pathically sad.

        I’ve always thought that belief in socialism despite all the facts was a religious type act.

        Your posts are proof.

        A government FILLED with criminals and you go on about a party that was last in power 12 years ago.
        A government that deliberately ruined the economy with a regulatory increase in credit to enable them to build rent-seeking property empires.
        A government that constantly lies.
        A government that bullies the population.

        I want them dead, I declare Vendetta.

  30. 66
    shelling-out says:

    “Gordon Brown today accused Sir Thomas Legg, the auditor who has been reviewing parliamentary expenses, of creating “new rules” retrospectively – while at the same time urging MPs to comply with them.”

    ……and of course, Gordon wouldn’t comply with anything to which he felt he wasn’t entitled now, would he.

  31. 71
    shelling-out says:

    So – Jacqui Smith has got away without paying back her expenses.

    Labour. We look after our own.

  32. 72
    Vicky says:

    Pity they could not put as much energy into the following:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8301195.stm Andy Hull Smoke fee Liverpool was the head of service where I worked. He campaigned for Smoke Free Legislation. Why are the government so obsessed with smoking? People choose to smoke no one chooses to be bullied. Why not introduce legislation to protect people from being bullied in the workplace. No one committed suicide or ended or on anti depressants due to smoking but they do with bullying. I suggest MP’S GET THEIR PRIORITIES RIGHT. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/09Bullying/ My statement in Gray v Liverpool City Council http://bulliedbyliverpoolcitycouncil.blogspot.com/

  33. 73
    FarmerGiles says:

    I am so sorry about still hunting. It’s an over site.

  34. 74
    Jacqui says:

    Who you looking at? Cum an ave a go if ya fink yer hard enuf

  35. 78
    Anonymous says:

    ✒Shadow culture secretary Jeremy Hunt’s appeal for more Conservatives to be employed by BBC News could be about to be granted – except in reverse. Clarence Mitchell, the former BBC journalist turned spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann, is planning to stand as a Tory MP in the next general election. Mitchell, who quit the corporation to head up the media monitoring unit at the government’s Central Office of Information, will face a selection board early next month. He already knows the party’s director of communications, Andy Coulson, rather well – from Coulson’s time as editor of the News of the World

    from the Guardian -

    • 245
      Arsophist says:

      From Beeb to nu labour’s COI to prospective Tory candidate. I smell a mole, and it’s not Cardinal Richelieu’s. The first of the nu con troughers?

      • 361
        Mr Ned says:

        Well I hope the selection panel will reject him. I would be deeply suspiscious of the motives of anyone associated with new-labour over the last 12 years. Rats deserting a sinking ship come to mind.

  36. 79
    Who's sorry now? says:

    So we have an unelected PM who may have to pay somemoney back, an AG who breaks her own rules and Jacqui Smith gets away with it and is ‘dissapointed’ with the findings.

    Well I am ‘dissapointed’ with this labour government – a shower from the top down.

  37. 80
  38. 82
    Anonymous says:

    “I am disappointed that this process has not led to a fairer set of conclusions”

    stupid bitch.

    I hope her tits fall off.

  39. 85
    Master Baiter says:

    Jolly boating weather,
    And a hay harvest breeze,
    Blade on the feather,
    Shade off the trees,
    Swing swing together,
    With your bodies between your knees,
    Swing swing together,
    With your bodies between your knees.

    • 96
      Arfur says:

      That’s for chaps who were brought up at Eton Baiter.

      You were eaten and brought up.

    • 113
      jgm2 says:

      The people’s flag is deepest red,
      It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
      And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
      Their hearts blood dyed its every fold.

      Then raise the scarlet standard high (chorus).
      Within its shade we’ll live and die,
      Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
      We’ll keep the red flag flying here.

      • 233
        backwoodsman says:

        I recognise that – thats the song those rich old landowning tossers like Wedgie-benn sing, when their having a bit of a knees up.

      • 314
        killemallletgodsortemout says:

        Just think. Jack Jones used to sing that shite. Traitors sneer, indeed.

      • 386
        albacore says:

        NuLabour’s flag is deepest brown
        It’s been shat on by ev’ry clown
        That fiddled all the people’s tax
        With rules they passed that were so lax

        So raise the marxist standard high
        And let the champagne corks all fly
        For all the proles can do is sneer
        ‘Cos we’re the bosses now – you hear?

      • 390
        Mr Ned says:

        I prefer “oh christmas tree” sung to that tune.

  40. 87
    Master Baiter says:

    Rugby may be more clever,
    Harrow may make more row,
    But we’ll row for ever,
    Steady from stroke to bow,
    And nothing in life shall sever,
    The chain that is round us now,
    And nothing in life shall sever,
    The chain that is round us now.

    • 116
      jgm2 says:

      Look round, the Frenchman loves its blaze,
      The sturdy German chants its praise,
      In Moscow’s vaults its hymns are sung
      Chicago swells the surging throng.

      Then raise the scarlet standard high (chorus).
      Within its shade we’ll live and die,
      Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
      We’ll keep the red flag flying here.

    • 143
      bandersnatch says:

      Clever boys used to go to Winchester. Eton has always been a comprehensive taking posh/rich persons of very mixed ability. Harrow? Rugby? The boys (and girls) from the comp out our back way could give them a run for their money on anything other than Classics, bizarre sports, and very loud braying voices.

    • 320

      Clear the streets for the Brown battalions,
      Clear the streets for the stormtroopers!
      Already millions look with hope to the swastika
      The day of freedom and bread is dawning!

      • 612
        Potential alpha male says:

        Ah an interesting version of das Horst Wessel lied.What is often forgotten is that the Nazis were also a socialist party who just like ZanuLabia who believed that the people should answer to the state. It seems that only libertarians have understood that the State must answer to the people.

  41. 88
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    From the BBC website story on this:

    ‘Mr Lyon said MPs must be careful that they only claim for the “minimum package” of TV services required for their Parliamentary duties.’

    Er, what “minimum package” would that be then? What TV services do they need to do their parliamentary duties? I can see how watching the news might be necessary, but you can do that on Freeview, can’t you?

  42. 89
    Master Baiter says:

    Others will fill our places,
    Dressed in the old light blue,
    We’ll recollect our races,
    We’ll to the flag be true,
    And youth will be still in our faces,
    When we cheer for an Eton crew,
    And youth will be still in our faces,
    When we cheer for an Eton crew.

    • 120
      jgm2 says:

      It waved above our infant might,
      When all ahead seemed dark as night;
      It witnessed many a deed and vow,
      We must not change its colour now.

      • 149
        Mercury Falling says:

        The sun on the meadow is summery warm.
        The stag in the forest runs free.
        But gather together to greet the storm.
        Tomorrow belongs to me.
        The branch of the linden is leafy and
        Green,
        The Rhine gives its gold to the sea.
        But somewhere a glory awaits unseen.
        Tomorrow belongs to me.
        The babe in his cradle is closing his eyes
        The blossom embraces the bee.
        But soon, says a whisper;
        “Arise, arise,
        Tomorrow belongs to me”
        Oh Fatherland, Fatherland,
        Show us the sign
        Your children have waited to see.
        The morning will come
        When the world is mine.
        Tomorrow belongs to me!

        • 358
          Alex Harvey says:

          Don’t piss in the water supply

        • 397
          Trimbush says:

          .
          .
          The dark eleventh hour
          Draws on and sees us sold
          For every evil power
          We fight against of old.
          Jealousy, class and hate,
          Oppression, wrong and greed
          Are loosed to rule our fate,
          By New Labour’s act and deed.

          The faith in which we stand
          The laws we made and guard,
          Our honour, lives, and land
          Are given for reward
          To thieving hands by night,
          To legislator’s boots by day,
          To folly, sloth, and spite,
          And we are thrust away.

          The blood our fathers spilt
          Our love, our toils, our pains,
          Are counted as for guilt,
          And only bind our chains.
          Before the country’s eyes,
          The traitor claims his price.
          What need of further lies?
          We are the sacrifice.

          The terror, threats, and dread
          In market, heath, and field –
          We know, when all is said,
          We perish if we yield.
          Believe, we dare not boast,
          One Law, one Land, one Throne.
          We stand to pay the cost
          We shall not fall alone

    • 324

      Gordon had a little lamb,
      whose thoughts were red as blood.
      And everything that Gordon said,
      the lamb made clear as mud.

      • 356
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        Mary had a little lamb
        She tied it to a pylon
        10000volts shot up its bum
        and turned its wool to nylon

        • 529
          bandersnatch says:

          I love it! Nice one, Ivor. It’s obviously Poetry Day all over again.

        • 568
          Unsworth says:

          Mary had a little pig
          She couldn’t stop it grunting
          She took it to the end of the road
          And kicked its fucking Hoon in

  43. 91
    J. Smith says:

    I’ve gotten away with it, that’s the bottom line.

    Now, you lot can FUCK RIGHT OFF.

  44. 93
    Master Baiter says:

    Twenty years hence this weather,
    May tempt us from office stools,
    We may be slow on the feather,
    And seem to the boys old fools,
    But we’ll still swing together,
    And swear by the best of schools,
    But we’ll still swing together,
    And swear by the best of schools.

    • 99
      shelling-out says:

      After everything that’s happened, you’re still trying for the “toffs” line, Charles.

      Dear me.

      • 416
        Mr Ned says:

        What do you expect? MB delights prejudice. Labour has outlawed all other forms of discriminatory and prejudicial expression of hate speech. It is illegal to verbally attack people on the basis of the colour of their skin, their religion, their gender, age, or sexuality.

        So of course, labour supporters have a real lust for satisfying their latent prejudice by attacking people based on the family that they happened to be born into.

        It is just as bigoted as any racist, sexist, queer-bashing hate speech, but it is LEGAL!

        MB is a delusional hypocritical bigot!

    • 106
      Sir William Waad says:

      It’s a good song, what? Didn’t go to Slough Comprehensive myself but I know chaps who did and they’re a decent bunch, no side to most of them.

    • 129
      jgm2 says:

      It well recalls the triumphs past,
      It gives the hope of peace at last;
      The banner bright, the symbol plain,
      Of human right and human gain.

      100 million dead Russians and Chinese and they still sing.

    • 137
      Anonymous says:

      And we’re all queers together……….

  45. 97
    Eddie says:

    So she was found guilty of breaking the rules, yet when this originally came to light the Prime Minister continued to express confidence in her, and she continued as the Home Secretary.

    • 101
      shelling-out says:

      Of course she did. Innocent until proven guilty – that’s if you’re an MP. The rest of us would have had to pay up, and would probably have been sacked into the bargain.

      • 185
        DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

        No, I think you mean “innocent even if proven guilty”.

        • 425
          Mr Ned says:

          Exactly, meanwhile they increasing change the law, or introduce laws that render the normal bloke to be guilty unless he can prove himself innocent.

          We need that election and NOW!

  46. 102
    Sir William Waad says:

    That’s it then. We are now offically a kleptocracy.

    “Thou shalt not steal: an empty feat
    When it’s so lucrative to cheat.”

    The poem in full: http://www.cyberussr.com/adg/l-decalogue.html

  47. 103
    Chomping at the bit says:

    Standard’s Report

    “52. The Permanent Secretary’s overall view was: “We would greatly prefer it, if all other
    avenues for resolving this matter could be used before asking the police to release their
    records.”

    Of course wouldn’t want the evidence to come out now would we?

    • 109
      Chomping at the bit says:

      Met Police….. Hang your heads in shame…again!!

      “58. I received on 30 April a response from an Assistant Commissioner in the Metropolitan
      Police.68 She said that they had consulted the West Mercia police who shared their views.
      She said that “the privacy versus security concerns could cause principals, where risk decrees
      that they need to be protected, to understandably reconsider their position over concerns of a
      breach of privacy if material were to be released. This could cause significant problems
      around future protection arrangements.” Regarding Freedom of Information, the Assistant
      Commissioner said that the Metropolitan Police regularly received requests asking for
      details of protection provided to individuals, and their policy had been to use a “neither
      confirm or deny” response. She was concerned that supplying the details requested could
      “undermine that position when considering future FOIA requests”. Security arrangements
      were a serious and ongoing concern.”

    • 118
      Mitch says:

      They mean that Smith didn’t tell them the truth, so had to rely on Police records.

    • 121
      Chomping at the bit says:

      “67. The figures provided by the police suggested that for the period from 28 June 2007 to
      31 March 2008, the police guarded Ms Smith for 101 (or 102) nights in London and 128
      nights in Redditch; and from 1 April 2008 to 31 March 2009, the police guarded Ms Smith
      for 137 nights in London and 173 (or 174) nights in Redditch.
      68. The police figures differed significantly from the diary estimates. For the period from
      28 June 2007 to 31 March 2008, police figures suggested that Ms Smith had spent 26 more
      nights in her Redditch home than she had in her London home, whereas her diary
      suggested that the difference was two nights over the same period. For 2008-09, the police
      figures suggested that Ms Smith had spent 37 more nights in Redditch than she had in
      London, whereas her diary estimates suggested that the difference was 9 nights.”

      So the Home secretary provided dodgy figures.

      • 155
        Mitch says:

        Exactly, even on her own figures she was in Redditch longer.

      • 262
        Cyco Billy says:

        There are policement who believe themselves to be in Redditch when they are in fact in London? You’d think the accent would be a giveaway.

        • 278
          Chomping at the bit says:

          Perhaps we should believe our Jacqui and not the police officers who reported there duties. Complain about the Police officer then when the reply comes from the investigator that the Police were correct then ask why if that is the case then why they didn’t prosecute Jacqui for Perverting the course of Justice with her lies.

          Someone MUST be lying….

    • 135
      Chomping at the bit says:

      “70. Ms Smith responded with her letter of 14 July.78 She said “I have now gone through
      again day by day my personal and Ministerial diaries to check any discrepancies with the
      Metropolitan Police summary.” In her letter, she included a table which provided in most
      cases strong circumstantial evidence from her diary records of her location where it
      differed from the police records.

      I have not included this information in the evidence, to
      protect Ms Smith’s privacy and that of her family.

      The references related to ministerial and
      political engagements or personal commitments in other parts of the country or abroad,
      which either placed her away from both residences or which strongly suggested that she
      had spent the night in London.”

      So there is evidence of her lying.

      • 159
        Mitch says:

        Why would the Police guard a house if she wasn’t there? Are they that incompetent? It simply isn’t credible.

        Who has more to gain from confusion – the police or 5-bellies?

        • 230
          Chomping at the bit says:

          Well certainly not the officers doing the actual protection duty. What galls me is the spineless way the senior officers would not comply with the request, first getting the Home Secretary to agree to letting the information out in the first place.

          If you or I had an allegation made against us they wouldn’t be asking for permission.

          More importantly though is the fact that she was “elsewhere” that requires secrecy. What was she up to in “references related to ministerial and
          political engagements or personal commitments” that would require secrecy? Perhaps and only perhaps in personal matters but NOT on ministerial and political engagements. Sounds to me she has a little love nest that she wants to keep quiet!!!!!!

          • Australian says:

            “Sounds to me she has a little love nest that she wants to keep quiet!!!!!!”

            What a thoroughly unpleasant thought – who on earth would want to share that with her?

          • Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

            O/T There must be some right old perverts around

  48. 104
    streamfisher says:

    Well that’s it, or will be If they weasel out again on paying back the money they STOLE! and if prosecutions do not follow as well, I will not be voting for any Party ever again. Effectively disenfranchised by 70% by the EEC and the other 30%- the self-serving troughers in House of Commons and the House of Lords = 100% pissed-off with the lot of them. Armed insurrection may be the only democratic solution.

    • 217
      JMT says:

      That is what they want you to do – surrender, or be suppressed.

      Use your vote, hold your nose and vote for any party that will put the sh*ts up the establishment: be it Green, UKIP or the unmentionables.

      But for goodness sake use your vote.

      That is why forced voting has never been foisted on the UK. What might the result be?

      • 306
        streamfisher says:

        Forced voting?, they would have to drag me kicking and screaming all the way to a spoilt ballot paper. In the 1800’s they used to bribe or bludgeon people to vote in their rotten boroughs, now they think they can fine you for NOT voting for the tripesters!

        • 394
          DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

          JMT is absolutely right. If you don’t vote, then the corrupt politicians have won. They’ll still get in.

          There are plenty of political parties and independent candidates out there that are not Labour, Tory, or LibDem. If everyone who was fed up to the back teeth with the lying bunch of Hoons we currently have in Westminster voted for one of them, then we might see some real change.

          • Mr Ned says:

            The numbers DO bear that out. 60% of the country are pissed off at the mainstream, BUT most of them do NOT intend to vote…

            Why? They see no point. BUT….. What if???

            WHAT IF they ALL realised that they are actually a massive majority? What if they actually realised that? Then they could completely wipe out ALL the mainstream parties at once.

            Think about it. only 22% of the actual electorate voted labour in 2007. 22% gave labour a 66 seat majority. YUP just a tiny 22%.

            What could this pissed off 60% achieve IF motivated to do so?

            Think about it, and enjoy that thought….

            Now, tell EVERYONE. If you are pissed off at the mainstream parties, then YOU are in the BIGGEST power block in in the UK. You are in the biggest club in the land. SO USE THAT POWER!

            Vote for someone else!

            Tell everyone!

    • 443
      Susie says:

      Hear hear JMT.

      It’s become perfectly obvious that a cabal of MPs have purposely set out to undermine and discredit Parliament and the House of Lords so we’ll roll over without a shot when the EU takes over our democracy. Your vote is the one precious barrier standing between you and dictatorship — not even by a fallible human being in this case, far worse, by an institution.

      I really believe the time has come for large scale organised civil disobedience demanding an immediate General Election — they have in Iran, they have in Czechoslovakia, they have in Romania. Who is going to light the touchpaper?

  49. 107
    ian e says:

    Where is Oliver Cromwell when you need him?

    • 117
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      Oliver Cromwell is indisposed so here is an interlude: ‘91% czechs support Klauss’
      http://www.sofiaecho.com/2009/10/12/798461_czech-cabinet-meets-to-resolve-lisbon-treaty-impasse

    • 122
      String 'em up says:

      Fuck Cromwell. We need another Longshanks.

    • 128
      streamfisher says:

      Wiki-
      In 1661, Oliver Cromwell’s body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey, and was subjected to the ritual of a posthumous execution, as were the remains of John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell’s daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) Symbolically, this took place on 30 January; the same date that Charles I had been executed. His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn. Finally, his disinterred body was thrown into a pit, while his severed head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685. Afterwards the head changed hands several times, including the sale in 1814 to a man named Josiah Henry Wilkinson, before eventually being buried in the grounds of Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge, in 1960.

  50. 108
    FrogDog says:

    All that’s happening is we have taken our eyes off the ball all for a pair of Blue Tits.
    Rite lads…its time to look the other way and see what’s happening behind our backs. Because sure as hell there is something evil in the woodshed.

  51. 114
    rocknrolla says:

    Does anyone here know about investigating fraud etc?

    I just want to know if there are any routes that could be taken to discover what Blair claimed for. If it cost money a fundraiser on here would be a massive success. The old receipts or info from his debit/credit card issuer?

    If Blair has committed fraud then surely they would have to turn the data over? Can’t believe he can just shred his receipts and walk off a millionaire. Like living in a banana republic.

    • 151
      streamfisher says:

      He claimed off the taxpayer for the cost of shredding said receipts/damaging hardcopy, submitted expenses claim for £250 for the same just before handing over to gormless Gordon. No flies on our Tone.

      • 477
        Summer_Breeze says:

        ” No flies on our Tone. ”

        and no files either!

      • 494
        superbad says:

        I live in a messy disorganized way but manage to keep statements, credit card details, share dealing stuff and old tax returns for years in a file. Tony and his wife are multi-millionaire globe-trotters. They I am sure will get their accounts done by an accountant (especially given how complicated McCretin has made it all), so there must be lots of clues out there. How we find them, I’ve no idea, but unless Tony really went round destroying every last bit of evidence, some must survive. Particularly want to know how much he forced the taxpayers to give him to pay for the mortgage to start buying mansions in london.

    • 191
      shelling-out says:

      I think Teflon Tony saw the writing on the wall and tied up all the loose ends before he left office.

    • 413
      RobC says:

      He can shred his receipts but there must be an electronic trail of payments both on his credit card and payments issued by the HOC to him. If those have also been stolen,lost or otherwise disposed of there must be a case for an investigation of the whole rotten system and I could not think of a better place to start that Blair

      • 440
        Hugh Janus says:

        Are we not required to retain for a period of 6 years anything to do with tax that HMRC might want to see? In that case, wouldn’t it be just a tad inconvenient if they wanted to turn him over? Let’s face it, his tax affairs won’t be quite as straightforward as most of ours.

        Silly me, he’s a leading member of the political class, another of the untouchables. I’m sorry, for a moment I was clearly fantasising there….

      • 442
        Anonymous says:

        That’s what i’m thinking, if nothing else electronic records from the payments made from the HofC to his account. Unless he got it in a paper bag!

        If we really have a situation where the home secretary can read our emails, have political opponents arrested and their offices sacked etc but we can’t see how much the PM claimed then things are worse than I thought. There must be some record but I don’t know anything about how to approach finding out. Any ex-coppers who know a few tricks? Or ex tax advisers? Somebody!

  52. 115
    Hot Air says:

    Instead of sitting on your arses bleating,why not join Old Holborn on Nov 5th?

  53. 119
    former voter says:

    There’s them and there’s us. Different standards apply. Get used to it.

  54. 123

    Proof

    if it was ever needed that there is one rule for them and another for us.

  55. 125
    Anonymous says:

    If you robbed a bank, and then went back the next day and said to the people you’d held up:

    “Sorry ’bout that, but I’m keeping the money ‘cos I like being rich. Have a nice day. I’m off to buy a ferrari. cheers.”

    I wonder what’d happen.

    The moral of this story is:

    If you’re an MP then your “rules” are allowed to break tax law regarding classifiation of expenses/perks, and you’re even allowed to break those illegal rules without any fear of having to pay any money back.

    Can someone please tell me why we’re not having riots and a physical ousting of these bastards right now?

    • 150
      Anonymous says:

      Because most of us are spineless cowards.

      • 481
        Mr Ned says:

        Most of us are far too lazy and far too comfortable to risk our livelihoods.

        Boils down to the same thing though. To do something would not only involve far more effort than venting steam on a keyboard, but would also require real courage too.

        I see no evidence of persons of courage or skill coming forward to organise any resistance, peaceful or otherwise.

        I may have to step in to that Breach,

        Let me know if you want action, OR just to vent bile on a forum!

  56. 131
    statechaos says:

    Why is Joe Public so outraged by MP’s with their snouts in the trough! The minority of MPs who haven’t abused the expenses system probably mirrors exactly those members of the electorate who wouldn’t do the same in their position, or who aren’t taking liberties with their employer just a smidgen. Perhaps that explains it – the outrage is rooted in guilt- because given half a chance the majority of us would be at it as well and the public outrage is because we haven’t had the opportunity. I will have to raise this urgently with Harriet in the interest of equality and me being of the fairer sex or should that be unfairer sex. Perhaps sex isn’t a good thing to bring up on this blog.

    • 140
      FrogDog says:

      I say…steady on old girl……
      Just because your at it doesn’t mean to say we are as well…….

    • 206
      shelling-out says:

      I worked for a private company for 17 years and during that time I have never claimed for any expense which I hadn’t paid for out of my own pocket first. I never took any other liberties either – not even a “smidgeon”.

      There are some of us out here who take things like that very seriously.

      • 464
        Susie says:

        Speak for yourself statechaos.

        I never even got paid overtime. You want to take a good look at yourself statechaos.

    • 252
      Sir William Waad says:

      We are outraged because these are the same sactimonious humbugs who have been telling us how to behave for the last twelve years. These are the people who have been telling us not to drink, not to smoke, not to drive too fast, not to chase foxes, not to grow fat, not to eat salt and don’t forget to wipe your bottom, little boy. These are the people who suspect us of being paedophiles if we drive next door’s kid to school and who monitor everything we do. These are the folk who know better than we do how to spend our money. These are the smug, superior, self-satisfied people who bask in the glow of their own inexhaustible goodness but never look out of the tinted windows of their chauffeur-driven cars.

      When it turns out that they are really thieving, lying gits, we want justice. Do you and they really not understand that?

      • 489
        Mr Ned says:

        Too bloody right.

        Cameron summed it up in one phrase. They treat adults like children and children like adults.

        Seems to be the core of the Broken Britain to me.

        Dissolve the family unit, restrict adult intervention and leave society to the kids, then watch it all collapse!!!

        Meanwhile, they are stuffing their wallets and purses at our expense, ready to leave everything to the COMMON PURPOSE graduates in the post-democratic age…

        We should be utterly outraged and we should rip their ivory towers down, but like good little children, we take no action against them.

    • 292
      The long view says:

      His problems were (a) clemency, (b) an inability to think his way to a money system of sovereign credit, which is implied by the concept of a commonwealth. As a result of (b) the banksters were let into England, and they promptly took advantage of (a).

  57. 134
    FrogDog says:

    Its time we were Revolting

  58. 136
    Poster Girl says:

    Sorry

    Looks like I got away with it

  59. 139
    Cook says:

    Oh… it makes me mad… mad! (slams cleaver into the table)

  60. 146
    Who's sorry now? says:

    When Jacqui Smith stands up to say sorry – will there be any members of the public whose money she used to pay for porn be there?
    What is she apologising for?
    - Misleading us all about where she lived?
    - Getting GB to endorse her when she had broken the rules?
    - Over reacting to the Damian Green affair – is she apologising to him and his family also?
    - Her list of ‘undesireable individuals’ no mention of Bin Laden etc..
    - Having her husband write letters to the papers about how great she is (possibly whilst watching porn)
    - Being Home Secretary whilst being concerned that she did a good job ; by luck … rather than development of skills….’
    - Supporting Villa?

    Answers on a post card please……

  61. 147
    LEST WE FORGET... says:

    TWENTY HIGHEST EXPENSES CLAIMANTS
    Total claims 2005-08 (excluding travel)

    Liam Byrne £ 478,536 LABOUR

    Joan Ryan £ 469,893 LABOUR

    Dan Norris £ 450,985 LABOUR

    Shahid Malik £ 446,314 LABOUR

    Charlotte Atkins £ 443,244 LABOUR

    David Wilshire £ 438,377 TORY

    Tom Levitt £ 436,686 LABOUR

    Diana Johnson £ 436,632 LABOUR

    Fabian Hamilton £ 435,999 LABOUR

    Jacqui Smith £ 434,909 LABOUR

    Margaret Moran £ 434,456 LABOUR

    Ian Austin £ 434,409 LABOUR

    A. Rosindell £ 434,149 TORY

    Andrew George £ 434,062 LIBDEM

    Dawn Butler £ 433,865 LABOUR

    Roger Godsiff £ 433,298 LABOUR

    Tim Farron £ 433,260 LABOUR

    Peter Hain £ 431,905 LABOUR

    Norman Lamb £ 431,683 LIBDEM

    S. Hesford £ 431,527 LABOUR

    Source: The Sunday Times 17-05-09

    • 170
      Anonymous says:

      Must apologise to NcNulty, had him down as a top 3 c unt, looks like he’s probaby only top 50.

    • 175
      jgm2 says:

      Fabian? Fucking Fabian Hamilton?

      MP for Leeds NE? Fucking ‘Fabian’?

      He’d have been kicked to death on his first day at primary school in Leeds NE for having such a poncy monicker. And rightly so. And now the Labour-voting muppets will install such an obvious southern nancy boy as their MP?

      Where’s the fucking class-war ground-swell in Leeds NE?

      Fucking Fabian.

      FFS.

    • 181
      Flippin' houses says:

      No wonder they don’t want their addresses made public!

      • 210
        shelling-out says:

        Master Baiter – take note.

        These are the thieves you think so highly of.

        • 339
          Master Baiter says:

          Blah blah Eton, blah blah Bullingdon Club, blah blah Conservitudes ad nauseam.

          Will that do Derek?

          • jgm2 says:

            You forgot to mention Hannan, Dave’s dodgy hair, the lizard lips and the pointy-headed missus.

            Half pay for you m’boy.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, the former Danish prime minister and PES president, said: “Hedge funds are buying off the Tories and Boris Johnson, which shows that they want to remain above the law. This will reinforce democratic efforts to introduce better regulation in the wake of the financial crisis.”
            Conservative party coffers have also been boosted by the alternative investment industry. The PES calculates that in the first six months of 2009, donations worth £3.26m – 46% of all individual contributions to the party – came from managers at City firms, the majority of them hedge funds, with a further £382,500 coming from the companies themselves. The largest single donation was £1.08m from Stanley Fink, who made a fortune building up the hedge fund Man Group before leaving last year to become co-treasurer of the Tory party.
            hmmm

          • Mr Masterbaiterbiter says:

            Money moves with the times, young master Baiter. Will you when you grow up?

    • 224
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      A large percentage of labour MP’s figure in your list. Very interesting forgot about this when read in DT some months ago, thanks for posting.

      • 385
        Master Baiter says:

        Note the ‘excluding travel’ hahahaha,

        Dave Komodo, lizard lips, flicking tongue, spectacular combover was first for claims for years, mwahahahaha

    • 398
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Have you got a URL ? coz I can see a mistake in that.
      Tim Farron is LibDem.

  62. 160
    Ebay seller says:

    For sale, due to imminent repossession: (will consider leaseback arrangement)

    Major motorway network – includes lights and signage.
    Series of lovely bridges spanning big rivers.
    Some Art galleries, Museums and possibly some contents.
    Hospitals at destinations throughout the UK
    Schools and Universities at some great locations.
    Some Airports.
    Big Buildings.

    Offers invited for anything: everything must go at knockdown prices

    Finance can be arranged through one of our own banks at uncompetitive rates (NB Banks for sale as well)

    • 173
      Gordon ( I AM a moron ) Brhoon says:

      Nation’s gold reserves….Oh, fuck ! I’ve already sold them at the absolute bottom of the market.

    • 179
      shocked but not surprised says:

      The cnut wants to sell off the Dartford Crossing. That doesn’t belong to him. The arrangement at its inception provided for tolls to be charged from motorists until the thing was paid for, after which it would become free for all to use. Now this cnut wants to steal something from the people and sell it to a private company who will charge its dispossed owners for the privilege of using it!

      • 198
        Flippin' houses says:

        Probably be sold overseas, is there anything we still own?

      • 216
        shelling-out says:

        Yes. It’s true.

        We were sold down the river (literally) on this one. They even had the gaul to raise the tolls by one third recently.

        As I said in a previous comment, Nat Rothsc*ild expressed an interest in buying up all our motorways – no doubt to charge us for using them as well.

        • 582
          Unsworth says:

          Actually they raised the tolls for cars by 50%. Not too sure about other types of vehicle, as I only drive the Bentley round the M25. Gives one an immense sense of superiority has one hands over a fiver and tells the Hi-Vis crossing control person to ‘keep the change’.

      • 330

        I think this whole thing was planned from the start, so we work for the rent-seekers.

        Print Cash, give to rent-seekers, then sell stuff to them to charge us for using AND then get us to pay their interest bill.

        We are slaves.

      • 348
        SarahN says:

        That’s socialism in action for you.

        • 493
          Mr Ned says:

          Marxist Fascism actually. But it matters not which system it is when it is kicking one square in the balls!

    • 188
      Who's sorry now? says:

      can’t we sell Brown?

  63. 164
    A.Holford says:

    What the hell, are you serious!! Jacqui Smith is a crook! She should be going to jail, she new exactly what she was doing!!

    This is proof that the Commons Standards and Privileges Committee is taking care of its members and not the tax payers interests.

    This is awful, sickening news!!!!

  64. 167
    Terrible But True says:

    Two rules ‘rulers’…

    And they wonder why ‘we’ despise ‘them’.

    We also live in an era where an insincere apology leads to instant redemption, but sincere regret (& principled honesty) is vilified.

    Yes, we do know who ‘you’ are.

  65. 173
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Honourable members who exonerated Jackieboots Schmidt – was it a majority, any dissenters on the outcome?

    Or did they divide according to party lines?

    Rt Hon Kevin Barron MP (Labour, Rother Valley)
    Mr Andrew Dismore MP (Labour, Hendon)
    Mr Chris Mullin MP (Labour, Sunderland South)
    Mr Paddy Tipping MP (Labour, Sherwood)
    Dr Alan Whitehead MP (Labour, Southampton Test)

    Rt Hon Sir George Young Bt MP (Conservative, North West Hampshire)
    (Chairman)
    Rt Hon Greg Knight MP (Conservative, East Yorkshire)
    The Hon Nicholas Soames MP (Conservative, Mid Sussex)

    Nick Harvey MP (Liberal Democrat, North Devon)

    Mr Elfyn Llwyd MP (Plaid Cymru, Meirionnydd Nant Conwy)

    • 190
      genghiz the kahn says:

      From the Minutes from page 110:
      “Tuesday 22 September 2009
      AFTERNOON SITTING
      Members present:
      Mr Kevin Barron
      Mr Andrew Dismore
      Mr Greg Knight
      Mr Chris Mullin
      Mr Paddy Tipping
      Dr Alan Whitehead
      In the absence of the Chairman, Mr Kevin Barron was called to the Chair.
      Draft Report (Jacqui Smith), proposed by Mr Barron, brought up and read.”

      Strangely enough all the 5 XaNuLab stooges are there. Did the report meet wi,th the approval of Younger, Soames, Harvey and Llywd?

  66. 180
    .243 Win says:

    …and all the time Pravda are spinning like mad about the nasty Tories with their new Latvian Nazi mates (good one from Dan Hannan on the DP in response to the assertion that “the question keeps on coming up”. His response ? “Because you (AlJaBeeba) are the only ones who keep on asking it”.)

    …and not a word about the Yard’s report into the Damien Green affair.

    There’s no smoke and mirrors where there’s no Mandleson….

  67. 182
    Putin says:

    Great News. I have managed to pick up the Dartford Tunnel and a stake in our uranium production. Gordon drove a hard bargain but eventually gave me both for ninety quid,rather than the few billion he originally wanted. He said it was ‘the right thing to do’ I sold the uranium to some Iranian bloke.I think he was a life coach because he talked about enriching it.

    I have big plans for the tunnel to cure congestion. I will be excavating a large pit in the middle. If congestion is too much,open the covers,drop a few thousand cars/lorries/whatever in and hey presto,problem solved.

    I just need the bridge for the set….

    From tomorrow,toll charges go up to £150.00 each way. Someone’s got to pay for the furnaces….

    • 213
      R.McGeddon says:

      I started to chortle then and stopped.

      Alky Ada might want to buy some of the Nation’s assets in Gordon’s Car Boot Sale.

      GORDON BROWN AND HIS CHUMPS ARE ALL CLINTS

      • 258
        Putin says:

        Too late McGeddon, I got £250 quid and a supersize kebab for it… Have no fear I went through a rigorous vetting exercise. Gordon asked me to give a solemn undertaking that I was not a foreign terrorist,we shared a quick glass of IRN BRU and I took the stuff out of Gordon’s car boot. Hopefully this reassures you.

  68. 182
    Show your support Jackie. says:

    smithjj@parliament.uk

  69. 189
    Sod 'em all says:

    If I don’t get to wring an MPs’ scrawny neck pretty damn quick the stress of not doing so will give me a fucking stroke I reckon. My blood pressure’s through the fucking roof.

    • 207
      Anonymous says:

      Order of preference:

      Bell
      Smith
      Brown
      Balls
      Uddin/Houdini or whatever
      Vaz
      McNulty
      Cooper
      Handlebum
      Millibands (2 for 1 offer)

    • 220
      .243 Win says:

      Ib the words of Kenney Everett

      “just round ‘em up, put ‘em in a field AND BOMB THE B*STARDS”

    • 280
      Justice Fingers says:

      Talk to your GP – recourse maybe forthcoming via the NHS.

  70. 194
    streamfisher says:

    Post this again as it tells you all you need to know:

  71. 214
    Anonymous says:

    Quality from Laurence on Dale

    “Lying thief to apologise to lying thieves for thieving.”

  72. 218
    Master Baiter says:

    Don’t know if you’ve worked it out yet but I have an inferiority complex with properly educated toffs, especially those that may have attended Eton through nothing more than the dumb luck of being born into a family with a bit of cash. I’m sorry to be so frightfully tedious all the time but my therapist, Mr Draper, said it would make me feel better.

    Anyway, financial misconduct = conservitudes etc…

    • 236
      Master Baiter says:

      You are not the real Baiter, you don’t sound spotty and sad enough! Begone, I’m the only cripplingly tragic cocksausage on this site! Hope Mum has made me a scrummy tea tonight.

    • 243
      charlie the chancer says:

      I would agree with you MB,but Jackie Smith,McSnot etc, sort of make your little statement of financial misconduct = conservitudes a bit hard to figure out,as we know they are Liebour troughers,if you said financial misconduct = all MP’s then I would agree.

    • 299
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      You can tell the Labour trolls – about as funny as woodworm in a cripple’s crutch. Much like Labour blogs: earnest and BORING!!!

  73. 221
    Oudeis says:

    The work of JPs will only get tougher when these apologies and excuses trickle down to the common hoard. If what has been done by our ‘representatives’ to abstract money; making your own rules and then bending them all out of shape were to be applied nationwide we could all live the high life. I prefer the idea of voting them all out and electing non-party local Independents.

  74. 240
    nell says:

    Guido you say that she has not been asked to repay a single penny by the Standards and Priveleges Committee but is she going to be asked to repay that £116,000 by Legg?

    • 259
      Anonymous says:

      Good point, will the letters in general be available to the public?

      • 293
        nell says:

        I think I read somewhere that he will publish his conclusions in December.

        Apparently everyone who has received a letter demanding repayment or clarification of the claims they made , have three weeks to respond before he takes further action.

        And despite what that sir idiot stuart was saying this morning about MP’s being treated unfairly, Legg says that he has drawn his conclusions on each individual claim based on whether, in accordance with the rules, the money claimed was necessary to allow that person to carry out their job.

        I can’t believe that her bogus claims will not be amongst the worst cases.

  75. 242
    No more boom and bust says:

    Don’t let the bitch go, Guido. What a lying troughing disgrace. The Standards Committee is a joke.

  76. 244
    My Little Red Book says:

    Labour = Communists = We drive Jags you drive Trabants.

    Liberal = Dreamers = We all drive Trabants.

    Conservatives = Money Makers = We drive a Rolls and you can have it when I’ve finished with it.

  77. 249
    The big D says:

    Westminster has closed ranks.

    Now that politicians have defined themselves as being above the law, the rule of law is at an end. It may take a while for the implications of this to become apparent.

    The public have been shown that being guilty does not matter any more. You just state that the particular law does not apply to you and continue breaking it.

    If the chief law officer in the land, Baroness Scotland, can use weasel words to successfully avoid the most serious results of her law breaking, the example is set. Should you have the misfortune to appear in court, just say you were following the principles set out by the UK government, with the added proviso that it was within the rules.

    Feudal lords would have only dreamed of powers like these.

  78. 251
    Anonymous says:

    From her own website – part of her snivelling plea to her constituents.

    “I realised that this raised a question about whether this made Redditch my main home in terms of claims for expenses and I specifically asked for advice on this from the House of Commons authorities. They confirmed that, for the purpose of expenses, the ‘main home’ was that where the Member of Parliament was likely to spend the most nights – NOT where the family lived.”

    So once she realised she was not spending most nights in London she should have changed designation – why didn’t she? How can the constituency party support her? Would you want to knock on the ‘poor’ peoples doors? If she had one ounce of honour she would resign – she is just s trougher.

    Dont forget either her role in the Damian Green affair – once more she is held out to be a liar.

    Finally why do we hear Mandelson pontificating about everything these days? Who elected him? he will get his when we turn to the Lords.

    Finaly finally why has Brown not condemned Lolrd Paul – who ass I heard it has admitted fraud – it does not need any enquiry ?

    Oh by the way these are rhetorical questions.

  79. 254
    Anonymous says:

    I think you will find she wouldnt have been able to claim the rent at her sisters if her main home had been designated as her constituency. I believe the rules dont allow a claim for such things from a relative.

    • 351
      P1 says:

      So she was doing it to maximise her financial benefit! She could always have used the Home Sec official residence, but that would have remove a troughing opportunity.

  80. 255
    • 270
      Wondering Wendy says:

      Saying sorry to themselves in the House of Commons will not wash with me.

      I want
      * money repaid to UK tax payers
      * criminal court proceedings to be started against certain current MPs who stole monies from the public
      * because so many of the 646 should have criminal court proceedings started against them, then the house must be dissolved and a UK general election called

      simple really

      I want my country back

      • 518
        Mr Ned says:

        Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that Wondering Wendy. However, the thought that pay-per-view executions could repay a major chunk of the national debt, also appeals to me.

  81. 256
    shelling-out says:

    These are only the claims made between 2004 and 2008.

    This is just a drop in the ocean.

  82. 257
    Justice Fingers says:

    I fully expect that the HMRC will be coming down on these people like a ton of bricks if there is a hint that they have declared monies as ‘allowable expenses’ that turns out to be outside the rules and is therefore deemed normal income and the full tax payable thereon?

    Is HMRC Cardiff working overtime?

    • 268
      Chomping at the bit says:

      I suppose that if any citizen asks for a statement from the HMRC then they would hide behind privilege or such like.

      Perhaps we need one of the few honest MP’s (if there are any) to start asking some questions in the house and writing to HMRC for answers to these questions?

    • 273
      HMRC cardiff branch says:

      no boyo, it’s been very quiet down here for a very long time

    • 274
      The big D says:

      Two chances, neither of them good. One called fat and one called no.

      • 327
        Anonymous says:

        HMRC is so full of corruption itself nothing will happen. I tell you now that one high profile whistle blower in HMRC would bring the whole House of Cards down. Funny how if you wrongly claim beneifts you lose your right to anonymity, but high end Tax Evasion is protected. Has there been one prosecution for off-shore Tax evasion? Do you really believe our noble MPs have not taken advantage of this? There is a strong rumour in HMRC that high level HMRC employees have evaded tax in this way. Yes there is an amnesty but should these people get it?

        • 410
          Anonymous says:

          “HMRC”…that’s part of the problem. It’s not the preserve of the British people but that of some half-mad German yobs whose corruption makes MP’s seem like nothing in comparison.

          The Royal Family are the biggest troughers this country has ever seen.

  83. 277
    P1 says:

    Smith did not make a mistake, she knew exactly what she was doing in order to maximise her own financial gain. To do that she signed off each monbth expenses claims that said her main home was in London, when everyone (including her when she repeatedly lied about it ) knew it was in Redditch.

    Necessary, but not sufficient action is:
    Smith pays back all claimed 2nd home costs + Interest
    Smith resigns as MP straightaway.
    Smith’s re-settlement allowance removed (she could jsut sell that big house we’ve been doing up for her)

    And to top it all, it’s not even as if she was any good at her job (what is becoming known as the “Polanski” defence)

  84. 279
    Bird with small brain says:

    How come Guido on the BBC news channel just now? Is it an indication that the Beeb takes this blog seriously now?

    • 387
      Sod 'em all says:

      Fuck the BBC. If they subvert Guido into toning down this blog there are a million others. They can’t subvert them all.

  85. 281
    Ayr head says:

    The problem with expenses – lovely story that it is – is that no party “gets it”. CallmeDave cannot condone it because too many of his own have their snouts in the trough.
    We are in danger of getting a year down the line with no action being taken other than a slapped wrist from some parliamentary bean-counter.
    Time for criminal prosecutions.

  86. 282
    Lydia Binn says:

    What makes these MPs behave this way?

    If it were ordinary people they would all be in gaol now. It is shocking. However, as we all know, just changing the government at an election won’t change the system. These people on the public payroll will continue to use and abuse any system for their individual and collective gain.

    It’s the same at local level not just in parliament. They’re all at it. I think it’s time we got rid of all forms of government in this country. We don’t need them and we can do the job better. Get rid of all the scoundrels and monsters that imprison us.

  87. 294
    The Commission for Fiscal Rectitude says:

    NOTICE OF COMPULSORY PURCHASE

    This site is hereby requisitioned by HM Treasury for sale to the highest bidder at a price not exceeding £3.50, 30 days hence.

    Mr Fawkes, please vacate the premises immediately.

    Darling A,

    Rectum in Chief.

    You have the right to appeal against this order.Well,actually that’s what the law says but it’s so badly written nobody can figure out how you do it. Take the cash old chap. Will you accept 25 million in gilts ? (worth we estimate 57p until we try and shift the next lot )

  88. 298
    Obama is a Twat says:

    So now we know why toilets Maguire was whining about the media not going overboard. Because the worst fucking troffers are Liebour scum.

  89. 300
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    Labour are really scraping the barrel now – aset sales FFS.

    They will be sending treams around the numerous & copious Palace of Westminster bars & restaurants looking for spare change down the back of the plush taxpayer funded sofa’s – if Brown hasn’t sold them already or given them away to India via DFID

    • 325
      jgm2 says:

      This isn’t an asset sale. An asset sale occurs when you’re in a srong economic environment and you sell off some non-core stuff at the top of the market.

      This is a firesale. This is the receiv*rs getting what they can to pay off the cred*tors. This is the executor selling off Great Aunt Mauds house and furniture at firesale prices to pay the taxman for her care-home bills and leaving her successors with fuck-all.

      Labour. Selling this shit cheaply now so that the Tories don’t get the poltical or economic benefit of selling it for more later.

      • 352

        The printed cash was printed to give to those buying the money to afford these assets.

        They’ll charge us interest, and charge us for using the assets.

      • 355
        shelling-out says:

        Absolutely. My sentiments exactly.

        Labour have suddenly realised that the country’s economics will pay a major role at the next election, so they’re paying back the loan, and selling off the assets at the same time.

        What better way to make the Tories look bad.

  90. 304
    Jimmy says:

    But…but…Galley wrote a letter. How can they ignore that?

    Any news on that prosecution yet?

  91. 307
    nell says:

    One little consolation is that jacqui is very unlikely to be re-elected next GE.

    I know she’ll get a £60K resettlement package and a pension but it won’t be enough to keep her and her disgraced husband in the luxury to which they have become accustomed.

    And one other teeny weeny consolation, they are both now so publicly renowned as liars and cheats that no-one will ever want to employ them in any capacity.

    In short they will be outcasts. I bet they’ll be selling that Redditch house before 2010 is out and trying to move to some area where they are less well known.

    Mind they’ll not be alone , there’s a fair few other MP’s who are going to face the same treatment. And a very good job it is too.

    • 313
      Lydia Binn says:

      well, you might be right

      I hope so

    • 393
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      they are both now so publicly renowned as liars and cheats that no-one will ever want to employ them in any capacity.

      The BBC will snap them up.

    • 407
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      I’m sure they could get a job working for customer services at BT. If my experiences with dealing with such people are anything to go by, they would stand out as some of the most talented people there.

  92. 318
    Sir William Waad says:

    Try again:

    We are outraged because these are the same sactimonious humbugs who have been telling us how to behave for the last twelve years. These are the people who have been telling us not to drink, not to smoke, not to drive too fast, not to chase foxes, not to grow fat, not to eat salt and don’t forget to wipe your bottom, little boy. These are the people who suspect us of being p****s if we drive next door’s kid to school and who monitor everything we do. These are the folk who know better than we do how to spend our money. These are the smug, superior, self-satisfied people who bask in the glow of their own inexhaustible goodness but never look out of the tinted windows of their chauffeur-driven cars.

    When it turns out that they are really thieving, lying gits, we want justice. Do you and they really not understand that?

  93. 323
    Snuggles says:

    Jacboot got away with it!!!! Plus her husband got some adult literature!!!! I am fuming! This is why we need a recall facility for MPs(like the US has). Jacboot was a useless Home Secretary and from all accounts of some of her constituents a useless MP!!!

    • 337
      Anonymous says:

      we don’t need a recall facility; we just need MPs to be subjected to the same basic tax laws as everyone else; if that happened then almost all of them would be in prison by now.

    • 366
      McGroom says:

      with a majority of 1,948, Jacqui has got away with it until 6th May 2010 when she will face her Portillo moment

      I can’t wait

      • 454
        Anonymous says:

        While I’m looking forward to her Portillo moment, she has the last laugh, because she still ends up with over £60k cash-in-hand for the simple act of managing to lose at the election, plus 13 years’ worth of troughing money and a tax-payer-funded personal property portfolio and a humungous tax-payer funded pension.

        You can boot them out at the election, but they have the last laugh; they’ve still got all your fucking money.

  94. 326
    Lizzie says:

    It is now up to her constituents to show their appreciation at the next election if she is standing.

    • 588
      backwoodsman says:

      perhaps a conga round the hall before the count, whilst singing ‘give us back our 60K ?’

  95. 333
    streamfisher says:

    What’s the ‘Burn’ rate on £15 billion sell-off (wildly optimistic figure to begin with), Debt clocking up at £6,000 pounds a minute or is it a second?, enough to keep Gordons clowns going till next Tuesday?. Scorched Earth… Atilla the Hun slashing and burning his own Country (whatever country that might be!!!!).

    • 342
      jgm2 says:

      Six thousand pounds a second. You couldn’t print tenners that quickly.

      It’ll be 10,000 pound notes before too long.

      And anybody would be a fool to buy anything this government is selling because at some point in the future they’ll simply confiscate all this infrastructure back as being in the national interest. Or drive down the share price and bankrupt the companies. Like they did with Railtrak.

    • 344
      jgm2 says:

      Six thousand pounds a second. You couldn’t print tenners that quickly.

      It’ll be 10,000 pound notes before too long.

      And anybody would be a fool to buy anything this government is selling because at some point in the future they’ll simply confiscate all this infrastructure back as being in the national interest. Or drive down the share price and bankr*pt the companies. Like they did with Railtrak.

    • 367
      Sir William Waad says:

      It would last about one month. After that, we could sell:

      10 Downing Street
      Bermuda
      The Crown Jewels
      Trafalgar Square (to become Hu Jintao Plaza)
      The BBC
      Polly Toynbee
      Stephen Fry
      Stonehenge
      The Loch Ness Monster

      • 415
        streamfisher says:

        Should have hung on to Hong Kong (worth a few bob), sell the Falkland Islands to the Argentinians? and Gibraltar back to the Spanish at knock down prices that would really appeal to the New Labour ranks. What am I doing….. giving ideas to the mentally challenged.

    • 377
      Ebay seller says:

      Eddie Izzard
      Nationalise Wayne Rooney

    • 522
      Max says:

      They’re selling off only £3bn (if they get it) over the next two years; if you charitably/simplisticly say that’s £1.5bn a year then in 2010 it would just about cover the interest on the McDoom debt for, er, three months. So as the Dear Leader puts it that will both fund “continued investment” plus “pay down debt”. Or maybe not. Thus spake ZNL’s greatest chancellor and economic goliath.

  96. 342
    Anonymous says:

    +_+_+_+_+_+ CAN WE HAVE OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK? +_+_+_+_+_+_+

    How the fuck can you have an investigation that finds someone guilty but imposes no punishment? What’s the fucking point? If there’s no point in the investigation at least give us our fucking money back from that!

  97. 347
    That's Democracy says:

    Here’s some revolting cronyism. This must be illegal, surely. Boris Johnson tries to appoint a sycophant who is manifestly lacking in qualifications for the position. He simply ignores due process, making a mockery of the whole system. This is Britain today, folks.

    http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/boris-johnson-letter.pdf

    Still think you live in a democracy?

    • 360
      Gordon Brown says:

      That’s quite shocking. It appears as though personal correspondance has been released purely to cause embarrassment to the Mayor of London and the Secratary of State for pointless shit, Ben Bradshaw. This is potentially an issue of National security and I expect arrests, ideally of opposition MPs, as before.

      Don’t bother me with the details.

      If this goes wrong you’re on your own.

      • 405
        That's Democracy says:

        I guess one of the reasons that Britain is in the state it is in is that people dismiss such such awfulness as “pointless.” It’s a sympton of a seriously corrupt system.

    • 422
      ExEng says:

      What has this to do with democracy? Just another qango official. If Boris wants someone that talks his language then he has the right to nominate them.

      Boris was elected! The rest of them were appointed!

      Democracy working!

      (Stick to the subject: We can not even get MPs to follow basic decency in office this is trivial and generally expected/wanted behaviour of Boris. He never hides his views and the electorate knew him for what he is. There is no issue.)

      • 459
        Anonymous says:

        What has this got to do with democracy? Are you joking? Let’s see. First, the fact that Boris thinks he can do this suggest that he has nothing but contempt for the ethics and processes through which this position must be considered. In short, he doesn’t care about practices essential to a fair, functioning society. The idea of democracy is contingent upon fair, equal representation and access.
        Second, she is completely unqualified for the role. Third, qualified candidates are disqualified as a result of sickening cronyism. Does that help at all? And, er, in case you were unsure, there are laws against this (Nolan laws) and, in fact, appointments may not be handed to anyone at all. Actually, you might want consider this: that democracy, in all its guises, is far wider than the idea of some person being elected.

        • 470

          He’ll be judged by the voters, unlike Gordon “coward” Brown.

          • Anonymous says:

            Of if it were so! If only voting made a jot of difference. No, like so many of the hoons, he won’t be judged by the voters. The British public is too deferential, too subservient, and simply too thick to do anything.

            The worrying thing about all this is something that I though was intuitively obvious: namely that democracy is not simply a concept connected to voting. There are people here who cannot grasp that and that is very, very worrying indeed.

        • 502
          jgm2 says:

          the fact that Boris thinks he can do this suggest that he has nothing but contempt for the ethics and processes through which this position must be considered.

          In my view London would be better served by simply not appointing anybody to such a pointless position. Grand poo-bah of fucking art galleries.

          Who gives a shit. It’s all part of that middle-class Marxist, patrician mindset that wants the proles to get involved in the delights of fucking ballet. It’s getting working class tax-payers to give middle class wankers nice warm galleries to swan around looking at over-priced shit.

          But get used to the idea that the new government will be firing legions of Labour apparatchiks planted into quangoes and replacing them, after due process naturally, with their apparatchiks.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219544/Youngest-hospital-boss-earning-155k-aged-just-32–NHS-chief-52-happens-fianc.html

  98. 350
    Anonymous says:

    JacBoot, other zanulabs, and no doubt many cons and Limpdicks will also. I cant see one MP going to jail. Its bullsh*t.

  99. 354
    Master Baiter says:

    Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, the former Danish prime minister and PES president, said: “Hedge funds are buying off the Tories and Boris Johnson, which shows that they want to remain above the law. This will reinforce democratic efforts to introduce better regulation in the wake of the financial crisis.”

    Conservative party coffers have also been boosted by the alternative investment industry. The PES calculates that in the first six months of 2009, donations worth £3.26m – 46% of all individual contributions to the party – came from managers at City firms, the majority of them hedge funds, with a further £382,500 coming from the companies themselves. The largest single donation was £1.08m from Stanley Fink, who made a fortune building up the hedge fund Man Group before leaving last year to become co-treasurer of the Tory party.

    • 368
      shelling-out says:

      …..and your point is?

      • 376
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        The point is he can cut’n'paste from news-sites as well as Wikipedia and still understand fuck all of what’s in it.

      • 378
        Master Baiter says:

        Hedge funds are buying off the Tories and Boris Johnson, which shows that they want to remain above the law. This will reinforce democratic efforts to introduce better regulation in the wake of the financial crisis.

        • 395
          jgm2 says:

          I suggest that you wanted to say that this would reduce or undermine democratic efforts and not ‘reinforce’ democratic efforts but since you lack the intelligence to understand the nuances of what your handler give you to reproduce we’ll just have to chalk that up as another Labour cock-up.

          Silly boy.

          Now tidy up all those tissues.

        • 429
          Mitch says:

          it’s over, MB. Get used to it.

    • 372
      jgm2 says:

      So the Tories receive approximately 6.5 million quid in six months while the Labour party is dependent on the Co-Op not calling in its overdraft and receives the princely sum of fuck-all from generous benefactors pleased with their economic performance.

      Hardly surprising really.

      Is it?

    • 374
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Remind us again how much the British & European Union movements have balied Labour out to the tune of?

      Commie Unions own Labour.

      • 396
        Master Baiter says:

        Lay off eh you southern toffs, I’ve just got back from a liquid lunch.

        Finacnial misconduct = consvertiudes

        hic

    • 382
      McGroom says:

      MB – you New Labour lap dog blog troll

      The government is printing money which they give to the banks at 0.5% who are buying stocks and bonds top build up there liquid asset base instead of lending it out to needy consumers and small businesses.

      The bankers are making out like bandits as the stocks they buy encourage more people to follow on and the bankers then pay themselves a fat bonus for using our money to get rich quick.

      Darling and Brown are creating the banking billionaires by gifting them money at 0.5% without requiring them to help out joe public.

      and you think the Toties are a bunch of Chumps – look to your own backyard

      • 420
        Master Baiter says:

        The quantitative easing is being carried out because of a malfunction in the financial markets as a result of excessive ‘free market’ fundamentalism.

        Call it how you like, the ‘free market’ fundamentalists are the cause of the crisis, there is no indication that the Conservitudes would rein them in.

        In fact the Conservitudes are super quiet about their banking backers involvement.

        They’d rather pick on the weak and vulnerable.

        http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=194836&d=340&h=341&f=342

        • 430
          jgm2 says:

          How is quantitative easing going in Australia and Canada? Countries who didn’t dismantle their oversight body and spend the last 8 years running annual deficits of 35bn quid?

        • 469

          So regulations that expanded credit are not the fault of regulators?

          Wow, there I was thinking the state got loads of money from taxing all that consumption encouraged by a credit boom they regulated…

          If you don’t like Left wing lies, Remember:

          Regulators decide on the volume of credit, Banks allocate it.

          The problem was simply this, far too much credit.

    • 400
      Engineer says:

      Were all the donations to the Labour party a decade ago an attempt to buy off the Labour party?

      In one or several instances it might have worked. Alledgedly.

      • 411
        Master Baiter says:

        Moves are afoot to privatise the Labour Party. Ironic eh?

        • 435
          George Osborne says:

          ‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!!

        • 436
          jgm2 says:

          That’ll be a dodge to leave the Co-Op bank with a 20 million quid debt which nobody is liable for and a newly formed off-the-peg company ‘Labour Inc’ to start again on it’s mission of total economic destruction.

        • 437
          Engineer says:

          That’s one Public Issue that will be seriously undersubscribed. Who’s underwriting it? The Co-op?

  100. 363
    Hard as nails says:

    Gordon is still gnawing his fingers

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/01XOeEp1gW9KO?q=gordon+brown

  101. 365
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    It’s an absolute fucking disgrace that she’s not being brought before a court!

  102. 379
    Engineer says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, or if this has been posted already, but isn’t the MPs Standards and Privelidges Committee made up of MPs?

    Weasels passing judgement on weasels, surely?

    Why are we surprised that the judgement is “guilty, but only a little bit”?

  103. 380
    streamfisher says:

    Next initiative from Gordon in conjunction with the DVLA?
    CHEAPEST GB NUMBER PLATE ON EBAY ONLY £3.95 EACH

  104. 389
    The Lord High Mandleson of Hubris says:

    Gordon Browns eyesight is to be examined every month to see if there is any deterioration. There is no truth in the rumour that this means he is on monthly probationary between now and the election which would lead to his position as leader of the party being reviewed every 4 weeks. Such cynicisn must stop.You have been warned.

    • 418
      Sod 'em all says:

      So when he has to step down on “health grounds” it’ll be because of his eyes and not because he’s a shambling, pill-popping, psychotic-depressive, country-destroying lunatic. Less stigma this way, innit.

    • 423
      Hugh Janus says:

      Could we have a whip-round for a brain scan at the same time?

  105. 391
    Louis Walsh says:

    I’m tinking of invoiting Guido Fawkes ta join Boyzone

  106. 401
    Cheese Lover says:

    Meanwhile, in another part of town:

    “Brown degrades Europe in reshuffle farce.”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6871302.ece

  107. 412
    Sod 'em all says:

    We’ll never have regained the true respect of your MPs until we haul a few of them out of parliament, lorry tires over their heads and set them alight like they do in South Africa. The so-called ‘necklace’ is a pretty good deterrent and might just focus some aberrant minds on public service for a change.

  108. 414
  109. 417
    Anonymous says:

    Given that Redditch was declared as her second home then, I assume she’ll be paying CGT when she flogs it?

    • 432
      P1 says:

      Never mind the CGT – what about the gain itself? Why should she keep this?

      • 517
        shelling-out says:

        She should be made to pay back the tax she gained when she sold her house. The rest of us have to pay it.

    • 471
      J. Smith says:

      ‘Fraid not , losers, I’m just going to declare it as my main home to the taxman.

      Get this through your thick pleb skulls.

      I’ve gotten away with it NOW FUCK RIGHT OFF!

    • 571
      Max says:

      Nah, you can legally avoid CGT by just moving in. Which she clearly did some years ago. Game, set and match to HM Govt hoons.

  110. 426
    Scallywag says:

    The corrupt bastards are doing what they do best. Looking after themselves and fuck the electorate and the taxpayers…

    You couldn’t make it up. They all make me puke.

  111. 428
    Dick Tumnus (a fawn) says:

    When she gets home(?) I’m gonna bend her over the Zanussi and whisper “Come on then – fart and give us a clue!”

  112. 434
    The Mole says:

    Not too late for Labour to ditch Brown and win

    “Cameron and Osborne don’t know what they’re doing.
    Their incompetence, risks Britain being plunged into a depression the likes of which has not been seen since the Thirties.”

    David Blanchflower

    • 446

      Blanchflower was THE WORST member of the “independent” BoE Interest rate board.

      He’s just nominated himself for a place against the wall.

      • 476
        Lord Shortarse says:

        Careful, Blanchflower is the reason I’ve been a Spurs supporter all this time.

    • 449
      jgm2 says:

      Ah. David Blanchflower. A guy for whom any interest rate is too high. He was appointed to the MPC in mid-2006 since whenhis sole contribution to its workings has been to shriek for lower interest rates to reduce the cost of the ballooning governmnet and private debts so that governments and individuals can afford….. more debt.

      He’s like Brown. A one-trick economist. For Brown there is no economic situation that can’t be dealt with by simply borrowing more money and for Blanchflower there is no economic situation that can’t be dealt with by making it cheaper to borrow…more money.

    • 451
      ronnie and reggie says:

      er.scuse me……….who got us into this pile of shit????????

      couldnt be midas brown and tony wmd?

      just fuck off…

    • 455
      Infamy, they've all got it in for me says:

      Never actually worked in the real world, only pontificates about it

    • 460
      Engineer says:

      Do you reckon that Brown knew exactly what he was doing when he borrowed to cover the gap between what the country earned, and what he spent every year for a decade?

      Did Brown know exactly what he was doing taking the National Debt from £340 billion in 1997 to £1370 billion in 2009?

      Did Brown know exactly what he was doing when he set out to borrow more in two years (2009 and 2010) than it has borrowed previously in it’s history?

      • 468
        jgm2 says:

        It’s going exponential isn’t it? I don’t want to be right on this. But it’s getting harder to disprove the evidence of our own eyes that this is going full-on Weimar.

        • 495
          Engineer says:

          There is one simple and blindingly obvious answer, though, isn’t there? Don’t spend more than you earn in tax-take. Don’t over-tax the productive part of the economy, or it’ll shut up shop. Even the Labourites could work that out, surely?

          Couldn’t they?

          • Anonymous says:

            working it out wasn’t the problem; it IS obvious to most people.

            They made the very silly mistake of believing their own bullshit, and not caring anyway.

          • jgm2 says:

            Evidently not.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The other side of the argument is that the private sector has collapsed because of a collapse in private credit. As a result of the collapse in the private sector the receipts of the public sector have collapsed. If the public sector immediately cuts its expenditure in line with the collapse in its receipts, those cuts would lead to a further collapse in the private sector. That further collapse in the private sector would lead to a collapse in public sector receipts. If the …….

            Get the picture?

            That’s why it has been referred to recently as a ‘Death Spiral’.

            Cutting stimulus measures in the middle of a recession is self defeating, it leads to more government debt, not less.

            Further it could lead to a 1930’s style Depression and Mass Unemployment.

            Boo!

          • jgm2 says:

            The private sector has collapsed back to its natural level. Not one propped up with 35bn quid a year of borrowed government money, rampant hose price inflation and a Great British muppetry told day-in-day-out, with his customary lack of modesty, by Gordon Brown how he’d albolished boom and bust and this la-la-land econics was going to continue indefinitely.

            Meanwhile his party had no trouble telling us we smoked too much or drank to much but were completely silent about the self-evident fact that we were all borrowing too much. And why not? Because the biggest culprit was the government and the biggest beneficiaries were the multiple-property owning and flipping Labour party itself. This entire country has been practically ban***p* purely to make a few Labour politicains a few quid richer.

          • Engineer says:

            Total boloney, and you know it.

            The public sector can only exist if paid for by taxing the private sector. If the private sector shrinks, you either cut the public sector in line with receipts, or increase taxes on the private sector, causing it to shrink further, or borrow the difference, thus increasing your public sector costs by incurring interest payments.

            Cutting the public sector reduces the tax burden on the private sector, allowing it to continue to function, or even better, expand. If the private sector expands, you have more to tax, so more chance of meeting public sector debts.

            Spending money you haven’t got is a bad idea, whatever way you wrap it up. The current ’stimulus’ and QE is just that – spending money the country doesn’t have. Sooner or later, all debts have to be repayed, one way or another.

          • Master Baiter says:

            The argument is that it is more expensive to cut early, that’s all.
            It has a depressing effect on the private sector.
            What is the private sector going to sell if no one including the public sector is buying?

            Answer:
            Nothing

            So more innocent businesses would go bust.

          • Engineer says:

            Master Baiter, you’ve fallen into the trap of thinking that the only market the private sector has is the public sector. It isn’t. The private sector also sells to the private sector, and would continue to do so even if the public sector disappeared altogether (which it won’t).

            You are argueing that the answer to a crisis caused by too much debt is to incur more debt. Wake up, Master Baiter.

          • jgm2 says:

            The private sector will sell food and drink and pots and pans and tables and chairs to anybody who wants them. It will sell stuff folk need. If we find ourselves a bit short we will make our tables last longer or buy second hand or buy chicken instead of lamb.

            We will cut our cloth according to our income.

            We will not, unlike the public sector, sit there demanding that we be paid the same amount of money we were last year plus a little extra just so that we can provide you with over-priced shit that you don’t need provided by a ’service’ where productivity is measured not by output but by the amount of money pissed in.

            All it needs is a 20% cut in pay for the civil service, our books would balance and we could get this show on the road again. Albeit from a lower, more sustainable level.

        • 514
          anonymous says:

          There’s only so long you can jab and jab and jab the inflationary dragon up the arse before it wakes up and bites you. Get out of paper money and get into gold. Anyone with any sense has already done so. The euro is finished; the pound is finished, the dollar is finished. It’s merely a matter of time (less than a year I reckon) before the introduction of martial law.

          • Gordon Brown says:

            As long as it’s after June next year it’ll be fuck all to do with me. Like everything else.

          • Master Baiter says:

            Inflation would be a lucky escape compared to the likely alternative.

          • jgm2 says:

            Likely alternative? You mean the obvious outcome of 10 years of borrow and squander economics, rigged interest rates and a massive bloating of the public payroll?

            The obvious outcome is rampant inflation.

            Deflation is not going to happen. Savers and the prudent are going to be trashed. We may, like Zimbabwe, have to abanodon our currency completely because nobody with any choice would have any confidence in it.

            All thanks to 12 years of the jackass Gordon Brown. what an utterly incompetent arsehole eh? And the 400 evil, self-serving, glib-aced arsehole Labour Mps who sit there day-in-day-out giving it ‘Yeah we trashed the economy but I’m still getting paid so I can live with that’.

          • Master Baiter says:

            No just a bit would be better than the alternative of an out and out Depression.

            Please try to understand that the crisis is far greater than anything since the 1930’s. The Conservitudes would llike to repeat the mistakes that brought on the Depression.

            It’s not some mini issue like the 1970 and 1980’s inflation, this is a BIG crisis.

            http://www.citywire.co.uk/Adviser/-/news/market-and-shares/content.aspx?ID=361292

          • Engineer says:

            Well let’s be grateful for small mercies. Master Baiter admits that we’ve got a crisis.

            A crisis that happened because incompetent regulation allowed banks to borrow more than they had in assets. A crisis that occurred after this country had spent a decade spending more than it earned, and borrowing to make up the shortfall.

            So Master Baiter’s answer to a crisis caused by too much borrowing, and exacerbated by the fact that the country was already heavily in debt, will be solved by borrowing more.

            What planet are you on, Master Baiter?

          • jgm2 says:

            This isn’t a big crisis. This is Labour’s big crisis. Caused by their economic fuckwittery.

            And I know this because Canada and Australia and countries not run by an economic imbecile (so that discounts Bush) are looking at each other giving it ‘Crisis? What crisis?’

          • jgm2 says:

            I’m noticing a more conciliatary tone from MB. This is a good-cop, bad-cop routine. Try and sell you Weimar-inflation as the best of a false dichotomy.

      • 478
        Justice Fingers says:

        I think the jury is still out.

      • 528
        A Pensioner says:

        Although there is no evidence of any comptence in anything they’ve done, its getting harder for me to believe that there was not a plan in Zanu to completely fuck the country. Job done.

    • 467
      Sod 'em all says:

      An austerity programme is desperately needed and I mean like NOW.
      The debt has to be repaid convincingly to avoid a de-rating by the money markets and it will require massive belt-tightening and will inevitably result in unprecedented riots in the streets. The people need to know the debt has been assigned to them by the Labour Party and that Labour is totally incapable of running a country. They need to never forget this little fact so this shower of phony, champagne-swilling shits never ever get elected again. Ever.

  113. 445
    ronnie and reggie says:

    surely all of this means that we can all steal anything?

    whatever we do is ok if we make an apology?

    if mps and lords do not have to obey the law then why should anyone else?

    • 472
      Sod 'em all says:

      Your understanding is correct. Feel free to grab what you want and run off with it; just remember to say “Sorry!” to somebody (needn’t be the owner, however – could just as easily be another crook running away with something else) as you make off with it. All will be well and no harm done.

    • 475
      evil forces of conservatism says:

      I’m afraid you’ll find that the idea that rulers and ruled should both live under the same laws is an idea from centuries ago, closely associated with the British character.

      It is therefore racist and sexist and needs to be modernised. An independent and liberated modern career woman like Smith should not be held back by the old fashioned views of white male capitalists. Just ask the BBC.

  114. 448
    Infamy, they've all got it in for me says:

    2 to 1 they sell the Tote

    • 456
      charlie the chancer says:

      I thought that they have tried to sell the same assets since 1998,I thought that they had already sold the Tote,as they are trying to flog it then I was wrong.

      • 508
        Mitch says:

        all of these assets have been up for sale before, for a higher price.

        Nobody wants them; they are overly-complicated and just too much trouble for little return.

        You can sell anything at the right price i.e. fuck-all.

    • 473
      Paddy Power says:

      Do you wanna bet?

    • 509
      Tote em Pole says:

      They could sell it to the footballers – after all they seem to bet every weekend on the games they play in – perhaps Rooney could be Chief Executive and ‘Arry Redknapp could be Treasurer?……..

  115. 452
    Anonymous says:

    nice to know that the jocklander Broon is selling off English assets
    easy money eh eh eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • 462
      jgm2 says:

      Veeeeery good point. Howzabout the people of Scotland put up a little of their infrastructure to help us through the next few weeks – before we have to sell something else.

      Although, economically speaking, I can’t help getting the feeling that we’re swallowing our tail here.

    • 463
      streamfisher says:

      Good point, Parcel of Rogues in our Nation. Nothing in jockland worth anything then Gordon? or are you just being coy, your constituency being there and everything.

    • 465
      charlie the chancer says:

      Next set of assets will be the British Waterways and the Forestry Commision,vast swathes of land and water,it’s good to be green innit.

      • 492
        Another Cunning Plan from Brown says:

        I’m sure somewhere in the depths of the Treasury they are no doubt scouring the “Domesday Book” to prove that as all land originally flowed from the “Crown” and as such is theoretically still held by them therefore they can mortgage the freehold of the United Kingdom to some “Sovereign Hedge Fund” who can then quite legally charge every landowner in England(Wales,Ireland and Scotland will not be affected as they were independent kingdoms in the time of the said “Domesday Book”) annual ground rent to repay the deficit and then as the assets will undoubtedly have risen in value sell the freehold back to those that want it at a 100% Premium.

        No problem passing an Act of Parliament in the remaining tenure of the government – after all the sheep on the Labour backbenches will just turn up to troop through the government lobbies at the due time.Problem sorted.Brown will of course lose the subsequent election but being at heart a true Son of Scotia he’ll have made sure that the English are completely fucked over in perpetuity

        • 531
          Anonymous says:

          No problem for them, just google or wiki “fee simple” and “allodium”, the crown ultimately owns all the land and can do what it likes with it – only in England of course which suits the Scots mafia perfectly

    • 474
      bleedin' obvious says:

      That’s because nothing in Scotland is worth a shit.

    • 519
      Anonymous says:

      As an Englishman, I’m rooting for the SNP to win in Scotland and then to hold a successful referendum on independence.

  116. 458
    AJC says:

    BBC says “First woman wins economics Nobel”. Can it be JS?

    AJC

    • 480
      Sod 'em all says:

      Could easily be. New previously unknown concept: “transference of property rights by way of apology.”

    • 482
      streamfisher says:

      Nobel should have got over his guilt trip and awarded these people a sample of his product with fizzing fuse attached, best peace prize ever, constructive demolition.

    • 550
      Sir William Waad says:

      Eve has won a Nobel?

  117. 479
    LABOUR PARTY STATEMENT says:

    NOW LOOK HERE YOU BASTARDS
    IF YOU LOT DON’T SHUT UP ABOUT US THIEVING FROM THE PUBLIC PURSE THEN WE WILL HAVE TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS FROM AFGHANISTAN AND BRING THEM HOME TO ENFORCE A STATE OF EMERGENCY ON BRITAIN’S STREETS
    WE ARE GETTING VERY SWEATY UP OUR BUM CRACKS ABOUT ALL THE ANARCHISTS WHO WANT TO HANG US WITH PIANO WIRE
    WE ARE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SEDITIONIST WHO IS KNOWN AS THICK AS THIEVES HE SOUNDS LIKE A RIGHT REVOLUTIONARY WHO WOULD STRING US UP WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT AND IT MAKES THE SWEAT TRICKLE DOWN OUR CRACKS AND THE BACK OF OUR LEGS COZ WE KNOW HE IS NOT MESSING ABOUT AND HE WOULD DO IT WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT BECAUSE HE THINKS WE ARE WARMONGERING LIARS AND THIEVES
    END OF STATEMENT

  118. 483
    Anonymous says:

    David Cameron’s mortgate payments are going to look a little problematic, I fancy … Oh dear. He won’t be alone, of course. All parties, all shite.

    • 501
      Anonymous says:

      With those who kept claiming for a mortgage after it was paid off, if they’d just done a remortgage the week before the final payment and stuck the money in a bank account they’d be in the clear.

      Isn’t this similar to those MPs, worth millions, who take out a mortgage they don’t need just so they can claim.

      • 545
        Duncan says:

        Yes.
        They should be sought out and made to repay the money.

        Next.

      • 566
        Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

        I’ve not been following enough. I thought that last sentence (of 501), is what Cameron had been doing.

        • 601
          P1 says:

          What about A Blair? His £300k mortgage looked a bit “toppy” given he paid £30k for the house in Sedgefield.

  119. 486
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    When do we get to hear what’s in the letters that Sir Thomas has sent today?

    I’m anticipating some interesting reading.

  120. 498
    Confused 5 year old says:

    Why are you people still obsessing over politics and the shit state of this country when the debate has moved on to more important matters like the contemporaneous broadcasts of the X-Factor and Strictly Come Prancing and the impact that has on people without a video recorder? And do none of you care about Steven from Boyz0ne and his tragic death? You people are sick; desperately sick in the head.

    • 520
      Forget about the Economy it's all about celebrity stupid !! says:

      AND we don’t even care about Simon Cowell’s bloody 50th Birthday Party or Danni Minogues’ “homophobic” remark( which was all meant in jest apparently as she was as “mortified” as Anton was about his “faux-pas)- although obviously in the ratings war X Factor was determined not to be outdone in the outrage stakes by Strictly

  121. 505
    Engineer says:

    Any truth in the rumour that Geoff Hoon has changed his name to Geoff Chump so that his Legg letter is ‘undeliverable’?

  122. 506
    You're nicked Smith says:

    It was the Plod who grassed on Smith. She was lying about the number of nights and plod records proved it.

    Plod v Jacqui Smith
    http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2009/10/plod-v-jacqui-smith.html

    • 512
      • 521
        You're nicked Smith says:

        But will she apologise about LYING about the number of nights? The plod records clearly prove that she was. Quite disgusting that the Labour-dominated Standards and Privileges Committee decided to let her off her criminal activities with just a slapped wrist.

      • 535
        Sod 'em all says:

        “I would like to apologise unreservedly to the house and trust that this draws a line under the matter.”

        Still totally out-of-touch the fucking lot of them. Scum.

        • 556
          Mitch says:

          “All of us have a duty to uphold the high standards of integrity expected by those who send us here.”

          **Ssssssspppeeeeeeewwwwwwww**

          • Charles Flaccidwidger says:

            Does anyone really expect integrity from the 600 or so troughing chumps that we send to Westminster? Thought not.

  123. 515
    Beyond_the_Pale says:

    Come on we all know the score here….
    None of us have any real faith in the system, naturally we hope that some light may break through the oil slick of financial scandle – but it rarely does.

    We’ll get the same excuses from which ever MP – be they lab, con, whatever.
    We should stop fooling ourselves that Parliament can be reformed.

  124. 525
    Susie says:

    He was taking his orders from his EU masters.

    Which were:

    1) Bankrupt Britain so we can get her assets for EU Central Bank on the cheap

    2) Decimate her army (when was the last time you heard French or Germans involved in a firefight with anyone?)

    3).Discredit her Parliament and the House of Lords so the electorate will become disenchanted with democracy, politicians etc and apathetic enough so we can take control instead.

    4) Dismantle her legal system to allow the above.

    and you’ll be well rewarded.

  125. 530
    England in 10 years time says:

    I am looking forward to the day when I drive on to the M3 (to be renamed the “M Trois” as it will be sold to France (and the surface will be billiard-table smooth and empty,like the Frog,whoops sorry,FRENCH autoroutes).

    There will be French style signs until I arrive up at the M25 where the signs will then be in Chinese – yes you guessed it,the Chinese buy the M25.

    As I approach Terminal 5 at Heathrow (now called Lech Walesa Airportiski,as the Polish Plumbers Union have bought the place using their earnings from the past 5 years work in the UK),I see a Britischer Luftwaffe jumbo taking off – yes BA is sold to Lufthansa for £99.

    As I park in the Santander AutoParc (closed for siesta from 2-5pm),I rush up to the McDonalds (STILL American!) and order a “Brown Burger” – economy burger made from the hide of a Scot and leaving the same bad taste…).

    Ah,those WILL be the days when everything you eat,touch,see,hear and smell will be foreign owned,all to save the political life of G Brown.

  126. 534
    MB. says:

    I listed to the interview on the radio with the person from her local constituency party, just about made me sick. Though I notice he did say something like “when we retake the seat” so perhaps he is expecting her to lose the seat at the General Election.

  127. 536
    shelling-out says:

    Militwat on Parliament Live trying to defend sending Al Megrahi home. He’s just passed the buck to the Scottish Executive Minister.

    Malcolm Rifkind challenged the government’s decision and Militwat said Al Megrahi was released because of the improved relationship with Libya.

    So Gadaffi said “jump” and Militwat asked how high.

  128. 537
    Why? says:

    Why is Gordon selling URENCO just as Nuclear power is about to make a comeback? That company could be making very serious profits a few years down the line.

  129. 539
    My first sighting says:

    Just switched on BBC Parliament and the first person I see in this new session of the last months of Labour govt is……..?

    Lord Vaz of Stanmore,First See Lord….

    Ahhhhhhh!

    • 554
      Sir William Waad says:

      Not before the watershed, surely?

      Is it true that they named Vazeline after him for its oozy, oleagenous, slimy qualities.

      • 565
        Lord Mandelson of Foy and Hartlepool or Something says:

        No, because Vaseline does have some uses……

      • 573
        Gonk says:

        God how unbearable.

        He’s got a big majority so unlikely to see the end of
        creature ‘go to’ twat number 1.

  130. 540
    Duncan says:

    WILL SHE STAND UP AND SAY:

    ‘I AM A CONNING, LYING HYPOCRITE WHO’S BE FOUND THEIR NOSE IN A PUSS RIDDEN TROUGH.

    MY TRUE REGRET IS BEING CAUGHT AND I AM SINCERELY SORRY THAT I HAVE TO APOLOGISE.’

  131. 547
    Master Baiter says:

    Just going to crack one off over my copy of “Courage” by our amazing leader. Oooooohhhhh, Gordon, you make me so hard……

  132. 553
    Anonymous says:

    So it is OK for MPs to claim £1000 a year for a gardener and £1000 a year for a cleaner. Why the fuck don’t they do the household chores themselves? Failing that then pay servants out of their own pockets.

    • 595
      B P says:

      Why isn’t that tax deductible for me then?

      I pay my cleaner – just like Baroness Scotland – you know tax and NI – I can’t offset it against my own tax liability

      Why should MPs?

      WTFs going on?

  133. 555
    Boycott the ПРАВДА licence fee says:

    Guido, can you tell me how to lose 3lb of belly fat every week without having to wade through page after page after page after page after page page after page after page after page after page page after page after page after page after page page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page of crap?

    • 561
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      Like Guido know’s how to lose weight.

      • 580
        Lil Olmey says:

        Losing a few pounds (OK, a lot of pounds) is easy while McMental is in charge.

        • 606
          labour a hump on my back says:

          losing pounds.not to worry well be in the euro soon,labour another picece of the jigsaw in position.
          40 % down bastrds.

  134. 562
    Fucks me says:

    Call that an apology??????

  135. 564
    Mitch says:

    Smith: I’m very sorry but it I was right, and it didn’t make any difference so there. And I don’t give a shit anyway.

  136. 567
    charlie the chancer says:

    So the Whitewash was liberally applied by 5 bellies,and they wonder why we think they are lieing troughing chumps

  137. 569
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Just heard her statement. She says she didn’t benefit financially from the arrangements.

    Whatever else you say about her, you have to admire her for keeping a straight face while she told such a humungously outrageous porkie.

    • 575
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      A humongously outrageous porkie from a humongously outrageous porker.

    • 581
      shelling-out says:

      Se almost didn’t. She smirked when she was almost at the end.

      I could have spat in her face.

    • 591
      streamfisher says:

      They are trained to keep a straight face when they tell humungously outrageous porkies, its the main requirement of the job esp. at Parliamentary question time.

    • 617
      50 calibre says:

      She’s in my sights…

  138. 586
    shelling-out says:

    Gordon to repay £12.415.10 in expenses.

    He should be sacked. That’s what some people earn in a year.

    • 594
      streamfisher says:

      Look on the bright side, that will not even cover the printing costs owed for his books on Courage, currently in landfill.

    • 598
      Gordon says:

      Och – the czech’s in the post office

      Watch my lips !!

  139. 597
    thatguy says:

    Why doesn’t she just keep on claiming and then simply offer to apologise again? Bound to be within the rules

  140. 599
    ken dodd says:

    wheres me shirt?

    wheres me shirt?

    its twenty five past five and i cant find a shirt

    wheres me shirt?

    • 603
      Knobby Ash says:

      What a night to surprise the missus by pushing a loo brush through the letter box and saying the Daleks have landed.

  141. 605
    Madison twatter says:

    Leave jacqui alone….I really do want to fuck her.

  142. 607
    boggartblog says:

    No wonder they want to take us further into Europe, it’s a much bigger trough to get their snouts in. Dan Hannan for Foreign Secretary anyone?

    If Only The World Were Fair

  143. 608
    Brown As Had It says:

    I am sorry I stole and then lied and I am Minister of State but you can all F OFF!!

    This economics teacher was above her depth in the first place. I can see how her revolting husband was watching (gay) porn because anything must be better than bedding that fat slag. Utterly repulsive and corrupt! Remind you of anyone?!?

    Oh yes.. Brown, Mandelson, Balls, Cooper, Milliband…………. and I could go on all night!

  144. 615
    Scallywag says:

    Since the committee was 6:1 in favour of the great party, no wonder that Jaquiboots Smith got off with a 2 min 5 sec apology for stealing £116,000 from the taxpayer.

    That’s £928/second, an hourly rate of £3,340,800. Not bad eh?

    Come the revolution…







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