October 12th, 2009

Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament

According to the Guardian, despite the 1688 Bill of Rights, it has been gagged from reporting a question to be asked in parliament later this week.  The gag was obtained by Carter-Ruck.  Wonder if it is this question:

Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the effectiveness of legislation to protect (a) whistleblowers and (b) press freedom following the injunctions obtained in the High Court by (i) Barclays and Freshfields solicitors on 19 March 2009 on the publication of internal Barclays reports documenting alleged tax avoidance schemes and (ii) Trafigura and Carter-Ruck solicitors on 11 September 2009 on the publication of the Minton report on the alleged dumping of toxic waste in the Ivory Coast, commissioned by Trafigura.

Note to Carter-Ruck – Guido’s publishers will only accept service as per the requirements of the Hague Convention. Come to Charlestown, the weather is fantastic…

UPDATE : Apparently Carter-Ruck are trying to suppress this reportNot doing a very good job of it are they?


  1. 1
    going mental says:

    fuck are we in china now ?

  2. 2
    Dack Blog says:

    Before I was just angry. Now I’m getting scared.

  3. 3
    Chapps says:

    No just NuLabour UK!!!

    KICK THE FUCKERS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

  4. 4
    Lord Mandleson says:

    It Started in America and Mrs Thatcher started it

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    Road_Hog says:

    Give them shit Guido, so good carter-fuck can’t sue you in the UK/Ireland.

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    Anonymous says:

    CR seem to have formed part of the govt of the UK recently – a first for a firm of solicitors surely?

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    Nick says:

    What would be gained from gagging that question?

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    Unsworth says:

    Yep, offshore is where its at. Still, those pale and pasty legals could do with a bit of the old currant bun, no doubt.

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    Lord Mandleson says:

    I will tell you later big boy

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    goto100 says:

    Well done Guido! :-)

    Keep up the good work and let’s hope they burst a few blood vessels from frustration at you blowing their little scheme out of the water.

    It’s so satisfying to be able to flick V’s at turds like Carter-Ruck (and clients).

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    Blogged this ealier

    Interesting times.

    Check Carswell

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    Sir William Waad says:

    They never learn. The more they try to suppress it, the more harm it will do when it goes public.

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    Jimmy says:

    Now that’s more like it.

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    Prodicus says:

    Guido – please give us the link to that Order Paper. I can only find Balls questions.

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    Line em up and shoot the hoons says:

    nuff said

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    First day back at school and nuLieBore have pissed the Guardian off.

    They have one hell of a death wish.

    Luv it.

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    U Digger says:





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    Lord Mandleson says:

    Whats wrong with balls ?

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    Bad says:

    No not China, the Ivory coast.

    Got to say this case is bloody bad, ashamed to be British bad. Far remote from the usual hairy fairy gteenpeace Bono stuff. This IS BAD

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    […] But hey, Guido Fawkes, we salute you. […]

  23. 23
    Money talks, the truth walks says:

    Soon, it will be an offence to read blogs like this

  24. 24

    We need direct action and we need it now

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    You’ve been Carter-Fucked !!

  26. 26
    Anonymous says:

    what am I looking for?

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    Nick says:

    OK. So there is this series of questions

    N Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the Court of Appeal judgment in May 2009 in the case of Michael Napier and Irwin Mitchell v Pressdram Limited in respect of press freedom to report proceedings in court.
    N Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the effectiveness of legislation to protect (a) whistleblowers and (b) press freedom following the injunctions obtained in the High Court by (i) Barclays and Freshfields solicitors on 19 March 2009 on the publication of internal Barclays reports documenting alleged tax avoidance schemes and (ii) Trafigura and Carter-Ruck solicitors on 11 September 2009 on the publication of the Minton report on the alleged dumping of toxic waste in the Ivory Coast, commissioned by Trafigura.
    N Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, if he will (a) collect and (b) publish statistics on the number of non-reportable injunctions issued by the High Court in each of the last five years.
    N Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what mechanisms HM Court Service uses to draw up rosters of duty judges for the purpose of considering time of the essence applications for the issuing of injunctions by the High Court.

    Probably one of those then


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    Anonymous says:


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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    For a change I don’t believe this has anything to do with the Labour Party and reflects a trend in British libel laws. Solictors backed up by wealthy clients are getting more aggressive and judges seem to be getting weaker. Hence the emergence of “super-injunctions” which rather than get you to defend an apparently defamatory statement in court, prevents you from making that statement at all just in case it is defamatory.

    But it is certainly a milestone when a newspaper cannot report what is said in Parliament. And a milestone when I sympathise with the Guardian.

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    Sir Micheal Caine says:

    You was only suposed to blow the bloody doors off!

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    Prodicus says:

    As you were. Ta anyway.

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    Prodicus says:

    Many thanks. Lots of interest there…

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    Anonymous says:

    That would be the carter ruck of the mccanns variety

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    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Someone must be good at understanding what a gagged individual says…

    So was it a loose fitting gag, or another version of chinese whispers?

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    Anonymous says:

    How can a judge block a parliamentary question being reporte?

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    roygbiv says:

    Direction? Who from… Cameron?

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    Pam Nash says:

    Why is Ann Winterton asking Gordo on Wed 14th to list his appointments for Wed 14th? And why would she list the details of the question, in advance?

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    No. This is getting silly now. Will the police use those 25000 new tasers on defenders of the Realm and Parliamentary Democracy. That is the question.

    Well done Guido. Keep it up we are right behind you and any media including the Guardian who uphold what rights we have left.

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    Jimmy says:

    Actually Guido I don’t think that Charlestown gambit is quite as effective as you think. In the circumstances it would therefore be safer not to indicate whether or not the suppressed report is available on wikileaks. Or not.

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    Anonymous says:

    They are very fond of each other, true.

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    Poodle Press says:

    If they had any balls,they’d publish and be damned

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    Prodicus says:

    Mr Farrelly has rather a lot of interesting questions on that Order Paper.

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    […] on the Guido Fawkes blog Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog […]

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    Grex. says:

    I have long thought Carter Ruck deserved it up them sideways and ungreased.

  46. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Sources close to Gordon Brown accidently reveal GE date as 22nd April 2010.

    Source: Sky News

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    kris says:

    Wot, not service by Twitter?!

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    jgm2 says:

    I believ the accepted sobriquet of the highly principled leagl firm in question is Carter-Fuck. They make a point of not defending their good name. Presumably because they’d be laughed out of court. And because there is always some other vain jackass prepared to pay their insane fees regardless of the legal merits or outcome.

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    barefootcontessa says:

    Sorry don’t get it. Can someone explain in simple terms, please? Just come in from work and am knackered.

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    jgm2 says:

    Fuck. Believe and legal. Obviously.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    O/T Norman Baker to ask mandy about bildenburg conference

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    Anonymous says:

    Now this is why we like this blog, standing against the bullies.

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    Who Gives A “Carter Ruck” What They Say ?

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    Anonymous says:

    Was the injunction issued by Lord Justice Eady perchance?

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    Born the day before yesterday says:

    Some nice gentleman have emptied their dustbins off the Ivory Coast,and don’t want it known is my guess. But then again,i thought MPs were honest,so what do i know.

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    Born the day before yesterday says:

    Is that one of those tweet thingy’s everybody talks about?

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    Prodicus says:

    It’s on the Graun’s FP but Sky do not mention.

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    Anonymous says:

    Can they really afford a 6 month election campaign? … and can we afford 6months of their earth scortching- there’ll be nothing left by christmas.

    I reckon it’s a distraction so Tories plan to explain their policies slowly over the next 6 months as, because they ain’t dumb and sensationalist they take a bit of explaining…. then labour call an early election and screw all the plans and try to get a few percent from saying “we didn’t have to call it now”…. would also mean the TV debates don’t happen as there’s not enough time.

    I reckon that’s the plan, but brown will bottle it.

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    jgm2 says:

    The day before St George’s day? The day before Shakespeare’s Birthday? We could wake up in a free England on St George’s Day?

    The churchbell’s ringing? Like Armistice Day?

    Naaaah. They’re toying with us.

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    Ironic says:

    So the New Labour defeated at general election celebration day would be aptly celebrated the next day on St.George’s Day, the patron saint of England, on 23rd April! St.George slays New Labour.

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    Anonymous says:

    What. green Slime in Newcastle?

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    Jimmy says:

    I’m late to this, but Trafigura dumped some nasty shit near Abidjan making lots of people very sick. They just settled a lawsuit out of court. the Minton report allegedly [ahem] suggests they knew exactly what they were up to. Trafigura say the report says no such thing but they would rather you just took their word for that rather than read it yourself. carter Fuck have made sure no-one in the uk will publish it and they would greatly appreciate it if you didn’t waste their efforts by googling “trafigura” and “minton”

    No idea about the barclays stuff yet. maybe someone else knows.

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    A newspaper has been prevented by the Courts, at the behest of a libel lawyer representing a corporation, from being able to report a question that will be raised in Parliament by an MP. You can go to Parliament and hear it for yourself but the rest of us who can’t make it are not allowed to hear it.

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    Mrs Slocums Pussy says:


    Rich Fucking Bastards making money from protecting other Rich Fucking Criminals.

    I hope Carter Ruck get what they deserve one day.

    D E A T H !

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    Pauper's revenge says:

    Well,i’ve got fuck all and so am not worth suing. Tell me,and i’ll tell the world

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    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Breaking News

    BBC Ticker reporting Lord P**L is being investigated over claims


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    Ah Guido but is there any truth in the rumour that John and Edwards are your love children – under the Hague convention any writs will have to be served after having done a hard day’s work, having drunk 14 points and still sober – so I should be pretty safe then.

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    Mrs Slocums Pussy says:


    They don’t have enough fucking police to stop ALL of us! And they fucking well know it!

    If they piss us off enough – they won’t know what hit them.

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    Anonymous says:

    I’d like to see the answer to the question of how they roster the Judges to decide these cases. There has to be at least one Judge available all the time to grant or refuse injunctions in an emergency. The question seems to have the underlying suggestion that this is done with a view to ensuring the Judges on duty are chosen to be the ones most likely to suppress free speech.

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    YU Digger says:


    Mr Mark Oaten (Winchester): To Ask The Minister of State,

    Department for Business, Innovation and Skills





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    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Err hang on a mo Guido – so you can’t be sued because the sites run by Johnny Foreigner? Well publish the damn McBride emails then!!! Or are you saving them up for a Christmas treat?

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    Anonymous says:

    But would this surely also be something the government of the day could do something about…. ergo is a labour problem that they’ve allowed it to happen and also created and nurtured the culture to grow where it would happen

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    Anonymous says:

    Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what mechanisms HM Court Service uses to draw up rosters of duty judges for the purpose of considering time of the essence applications for the issuing of injunctions by the High Court.

    This is my favourite question – whatever can he mean by this?

    BTW thank you Jimmy, for link x

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    tabs says:

    even if this ends up having nothing to do with maddie how fecking dare they take the high moral ground over this????????

    they and all the other newspapers have been ‘failing’ to report the facts since may 2007

    if you feel that bad about gagging ‘the guardian’ then run a full front page showing that Gerry and Kate were suspected of concealing a body following the death of their child, and that there are many question to be asked about the death of that child – that her parents have successfully turned into a registered trademark, grabbed money of well wishing people to pay their mortgage and generally lied to millions to save their own skins

    then maybe I might feel a bit of sympathy for you

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    It's a trap! says:

    Don’t go for any walks Guido.

    We all know what can happen when you go for a walk.

    Especially as you are being re-referenced by the repeaters in the Dead Tree Press.

    Shit, shouldn’t have mentioned Dead!


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    13eastie says:

    Fuck Carter Fuck

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    Phil says:

    I’d have sympathised with the Grauniad if they’d not been spineless and run their report anyhow.

    With all those millions of unpaid taxes on their profits, they could have afforded to fight this after the event all the way to the galactic grand council :-p

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    jgm2 says:

    You can be jailed for contempt of court. Which is unfortunate because if I’m ever in court my contempt would be quite obvious.

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    YU DUG says:





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    Fuck, he’s resigned!

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    Publish and be damned says:

    If the Guardian had any balls they would report, but maybe they like being sidelined by superior papers like The Independent that had the nerve to put the MP’s expenses out there, causing maximum embarrassment to the shits that claim to rule us.

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    Jimmy says:

    Barclays story here

    “Last week, the bank obtained a high court gag order forcing the Guardian to remove Project Knight documents from its website and banning the paper from revealing that they were also available online on Wikileaks. That ban was exploded yesterday when the Liberal Democrats’ Treasury spokesman, Lord Oakeshott, told the Lords about Wikileaks under parliamentary privilege.”

    Got to love wikileaks.

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    F’ing piss.
    That asshole Boulton is right you know

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    Pauper's revenge says:

    Jailed. Some of us would regard that as upgrading

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    […] Note to Carter-Ruck – Guido’s publishers will only accept service as per the requirements of the Hague Convention. Come to Charlestown, the weather is fantastic… via order-order.com […]

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    Jimmy says:

    “Don’t go for any walks Guido.”

    Does he look like he goes for walks?

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    Anonymous says:

    I cannot see a link yet on the Guardian website. All they need do is link to Guido, and our freedom of speech is preserved. I expect it won’t be the issue of tax avoidance that upsets the Guardian Media Group however, but poisoning poor African’s who haven’t claimed asylum yet might cause them problems.

    Keep up the guid work!

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    YU WREQKON says:



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    Set Aside Some Piano Wire And A Couple Of Lamp Posts For Messers Carter And Rucks !

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    Tubbs says:

    Not helpful

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    Stuff Carter Fcuk says:

    Are they going to censor the Hansard

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    jgm2 says:

    Surely the Grauniad will simply wait for the question to be ask and then publish and be damned.

    What’s the point of having a parliament if any fucker can get an injunction against what’s being said in there?

    Perhaps Jacqui should have got an injunction so we couldn’t hear her apology or indeed any reference to it. And then swan around giving it ‘My record is exemplary. It’s all been cleared up – just a little misunderstanding – after all, if that wasn’t the case then the papers would be full of it’.

    What the fucking fuck is going on? What kind of a judge went along with a pre-emptive injunction like that? It’s almost like they’re deliberately highlighting the absurdity of the libel laws and begging somebody to call their bluff.

    Is the Grauniad too stupid to see the coded message they’re being sent by the judge?


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    Oh ! And Rich And Mark !

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    thick as thieves says:

    okay guys, this is it.
    the elective dictatorship led by gordon brown is now directly controlling the press.
    this is happening in real time motherfuckers.
    this is a dictatorship.
    as of the 12th of October 2009 England came under the dictatorship of gordon brown and the new labour war and occupation party.
    remember the date well.

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    The Grim Reaper says:

    Er, no… it was the Daily Telegraph that obtained the unredacted MPs expenses disc.

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    Grrr says:

    Once the question is asked in Parliament it becomes a matter of public record in Hansard so where is the sense in seeking a gagging order for a few days?

    Yet more money for the lawyers though…

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    anon (obviously)... says:

    Aside from the question Guido has mentioned, there’s three other good ones from Farrelly on the order paper that might make Carter-Fuck feel uncomfortable:

    “Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the Court of Appeal judgment in May 2009 in the case of Michael Napier and Irwin Mitchell v Pressdram Limited in respect of press freedom to report proceedings in court.”

    (n.b. – Pressdram Ltd is the owner of Private Eye)

    “Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, if he will (a) collect and (b) publish statistics on the number of non-reportable injunctions issued by the High Court in each of the last five years.”

    “Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what mechanisms HM Court Service uses to draw up rosters of duty judges for the purpose of considering time of the essence applications for the issuing of injunctions by the High Court.”

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    Johan says:

    Thanks Guido, could’ve saved myself a lot of searching if I’d made this site my first port of call.

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    Anonymous says:

    Yeah! The questioning MP is a twat. Every question should finish with, “and will the minister make a statement?” Mandy knows that, and its omission allows a let out.

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    Zandra Roads says:

    According to other source, MP Farrelly used to work at managerial level in the corporate finance department with Barclays de Zoete Wedd

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    A non says:

    Carter-Ruck also represent Gerry and Kate McCann. They have closed publishing and distribution of anything “not McCann approved” in Portugal.

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    Anonymous says:

    Does this not have a parallel with Andrew Marr’s well documented attempt to prevent the Press reporting on his affair and love child with Alice Miles? Guardian – biter bit? Support laws that apply to all of us, and no exceptions for those in the Westminster bubble. Cnuts!

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    Anonymous says:

    That is bollocks !! the McCann’s would never stoop that low – would they ??

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Yeah. I’ve just read as much about this as I can find. I don’t understand what the question in the house is about either? But-I am very angry that any question is ever supressed; like wise any answer, when it doesn’t involve national security.
    What is going on.

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    Comment says:

    Wake up oaf, it happened under a previous PM

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    Libel costs are astronomically high in the UK. A loss in court, with all costs attached might well drive any of the current broadsheets under.

    According to “A Comparative Study of Costs in Defamation Proceedings Across Europe” from the Programme in Comparative Media Law and Policy Centre for Socio-Legal Studies here at the University of Oxford (you’d think they’d manage a shorter name!) the cost of a libel action in the UK is 140 times the average. The graph on page 4 is particularly striking: the costs are completely out of line with any other country & you can see why the US is passing laws to prevent UK libal actions having any validity in the US due to their effect on freedom of speech.

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    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Probe into Labour peer’s claims


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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Now look here, I worked it out by googling the fecking question. If you hadn’t butted in with that bollox I wouldn’t have waisted my tea break. FFS

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    […] Guardian gagged from reporting parliament Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog has an indication. and Geeklawyer (Geeklawyer) on Twitter says injunction on Guardian relates to […]

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    NA says:

    I am one of those police, and I’m on your side.

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    Anonymous says:

    this is my favourite
    Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what mechanisms HM Court Service uses to draw up rosters of duty judges for the purpose of considering time of the essence applications for the issuing of injunctions by the High Court

    whatever can he mean by that

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    That's Democracy says:

    Has the penny dropped yet?

    Still think you are living in a democracy?

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    It’s all over the net now anyhow

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    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Ahh, so they don’t want lots of references to “trafigura” and “minton” all over the web together. Got that everybody? No references to “trafigura” and “minton” in the same sentence, because references to “trafigura” and “minton” together will seriously p*ss of these delightful people.

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    Daily TittleTattle says:

    Since 1688 there has been a serious failure to report facts.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Yes St George to the rescue. Lets organise street parties and if facists get reelected we can riot peacefully

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    Utrecht says:

    Well the Netherlands Government is prosecuting Trafiga right now…..hopefully the Guardian is reporting the full Court Proceedings of another EU country protected by EU Freedom of the Press Laws.

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    jgm2 says:

    You’re well late with that date. When they had an opposition MP arrested on spurious ‘national security’ grounds and his office ransacked that would be an obvious prior red line.

    I’m trying to find the immediate aftermath statement from Jacqui Smith when she was being practically physically held up by Labour supporters with Jack Straw in close attendance ready to step in with suitable legal bluster. But my googling ain’t up to it. Point is – even nice-but-dim Jacqui knew they’d gone too far. Her knees were visibly buckling.

    Abolishing double jeopardy. That was a red line. Abolishing habaeus corpus. That was a red line.

    This is just some judge being interrupted in the middle of a game of Bridge who just said ‘yes’ to get the fuckers off the phone.

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    Pauper's revenge says:

    The McCanns were swingers who arranged a nice holiday with like minded professional people to enjoy the fruits of their state sponsored lifestyle. All was well until their mogodon fed kid was lifted by some perv who marked them out as mugs. Oh,and Gerry’s brother is a friend/nieghbour of one G Brown of kirkaldy.
    If that doesn’t get me two years in chokey,i’m an MP

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    YU WREQKON says:






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    MotCO says:

    It has been alleged that Hansard *may* occasionally be *edited*

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    Richard Blogger says:

    Guido I don’t know why you think you are safe. Your IP address is on the same block as wordpress.com, so I guess your publisher is wordpress. Carter-Fuck could just get them to pull the plug on you. Also is your registrar happy that you give a false address (I am assuming that you don’t actually have offices in the cellar of the houses of parliament)?

    But if you can screw Carter-Fuck then please do. They are odious creeps.

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    thick as thieves says:

    both wrong.
    the illegal signing of the eu constitution by gordon brown was the turning point.
    until that document is ratified all is not lost.
    but by directly controlling the press gordon brown is seeking to ensure that the ratification and ultimate shift of power takes place.
    the control of the press is the key propaganda tool for brown’s dictatorship to continue, without the press his dictatorship is over.
    and so I repeat, 12th October 2009 is the day the dictatorship began with gordon brown’s regime directly telling the press what to print and where they can and can’t go.
    don’t try to take on top boy when it comes to propaganda motherfuckers.
    it’s my thing.

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    Anonymous says:

    If I recall correctly, the Commons can summarily send people to prison for up to a year for this kind of thing.

    A contempt against the privilege of the House cannot go unpunished.

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    Reg511 says:

    Rewriting history, it’s been going on since JC

    And, if Milliband can’t leave history alone, then I can’t forgive Moses

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    I think I shall follow the career of this Paul Farrelly chap with interest. Like the cut of jis jib.

    Hope his tiny majority increases in the annhilation of ZaNuLab

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    Abdul Mohammed Yassi says:

    Ohhhmmmm……..in a relative universe tories are still bastards and labour are still angels (Allah Bamma)

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    Strictly init for money says:

    Very nasty. Morally bankrupt.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Yes. And, as pointed out above and elsewhere, technological and legal advances mean that service by Twitter is all the rage

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    Nick says:

    Well, don’t forget that the Guardian haven’t been inactive when it comes to tax avoidance and off shore structures


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    Technomist says:

    Nothing on the Independent as far as I can see

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    Reg511 says:


    Hats off to you, but you have just poked the lazy fat fucking powerful fuckwits with a big not very anonymous stick,

    I salute you

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    moo says:

    Indeed, I assume this story is what the Eye was referring to in the front page story last issue

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    Technomist says:

    If you can get past ‘security’.

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    Cato Street Conspiracy says:

    Guido – you may be a bit of a hoon sometimes but you are our f*cking hoon and that’s what counts.

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    Pauper's revenge says:

    I’m getting in the fireworks and party poppers in anticipation of the first MP who tops themselves.

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    elusivelestoc says:

    Sicko shit.

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    Guidogag says:

    Im being gagged by guido. My comments are under moderation

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    Mike Jecks says:

    Good man!

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    jgm2 says:

    Reluctant as I am to challenge you on this tat you are, in this respect, talking bollocks. This is not a state mandated suppression of the facts. It is simply one (okay two) private companies/individuals using our insane libel laws in a manner that has been well documented in Private Eye ad nausueum

    As for the ongoing constitutional arse-shafting everybody has their own red-line. I think, with this government, it started when they made us move to ‘voluntary photo drivers licences. As long as you never move home. Or ent a car. Or go on holiday. To soften us up for ID cards. That’s when I really knew. Not just suspected but knew.

    Jack fucking Straw had his hand in that too. Straw is like Brown. While Blair was in the headlines he was running around anonomously in the background working his evil. Now the spotlight ahs shifted to Brown that fucking Straw is still there lying about ‘rendition’ flights and suchlike.

    Another nasty fucker.

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    Aunty Molly says:

    Imagine, as a life long Liberal, never having ever cast a successful vote, in my 76t year, to elect someone who pays a boy to defecate on me, to help him come to terms with his baldness

    Democracy stinks, like my MP

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    The Grim Reaper says:

    Guido just uses the WordPress platform – they don’t actually host his blog. His blog is published by Global & General Nominees, Guido himself is based in Ireland with his assets offshore. He’s a lawyer’s worst nightmare, in other words!

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    elusivelestoc says:

    sicko shits.

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    The Baroness Sleaze says:

    Do you know of any examples?

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    'Onest Ted says:

    Some type of “dead pool” book on swinging MP’s perhaps.

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    FAWKES grad the quote from the times about prince phillip , he says “trying to recored a programe is like making love to a tv ” or some shit like it saw it on fox news “the grapevine ” on special report

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    Marchamont Needham says:

    There’s a clue at the bottom of the page!

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    jgm2 says:

    Surely he’s a lawyers fucking wet dream. Imagine how many hours he can bill trying to shut Guido down.

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    ACPO says:

    NA. Kettle yourself immediately.

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    barefootcontessa says:

    I see.

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    Anonymous says:

    Hello freddie.

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    Winson Smith says:

    This is a lie. Stay where your monitor can see you and await Mr O’Brien for re-education.

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    you do this rehab lad

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    seanbritania says:

    October 12, 2009 by BNP News

    The fear-struck and cowardly Labour Party has displayed its anti-democratic credentials to the world by banning British National Party Members of the European Parliament from entering Westminster.

    The move, introduced this evening by arch–extremist Harriet Harman, is disguised in a motion barring all 70 British MEPs from making use of the Commons facilities.

    However, according to the Labour-supporting press, the actual purpose of the move is to bar Mr Nick Griffin from the Commons after it became known that he was due to attend a function there later this year.

    As MEPs have the same status as MPs, they have always had access to all parliamentary facilities. This is obviously too much for the Labour fascists to bear, and hence the move to revoke this right.

    According to the Labour-supporting media, the decision to bar all MEPs comes in the “wake of the British National Party’s poll victories.”

    This is not the first time that the Labour fascists have struck down democratic rights in Britain.

    In Manchester, the Labour council famously refused the BNP the right to use one of its normally publicly available chambers for a candidate selection meeting, despite giving Communist-front organisations free access to those same facilities.

    It is clear that democracy according to the Labour Party is only allowed as long as one agrees with them. As soon as someone disagrees, they no longer have the right to partake in the democratic system.

    * Anyone hoping that the Tories were any better, need think again. Tory shadow culture secretary Jeremy Hunt yesterday called on the BBC to launch an investigation into whether an interview with two young BNP members “breached its guidelines.”

    According to the fascist Tory, the BBC should only interview members of the BNP “to make sure that they are held to account for their totally noxious views.” According to Mr Hunt, this did not happen in the interview in question.

    Once again, it would appear that the Tories, just like their clones in the Labour Party, are only for fairness and democracy when one agrees with them. Otherwise, both of these parties become extreme fascists and seek to close down democracy quicker than one can say “enabling act.”

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    Humpty Dumpty says:

    The only thing that makes sense in your post is your name – totally fucking accurate.

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    Mike Jecks says:

    Evidence, matey. Don’t throw stuff against the parents. Their worst crime at present is that they’ve lost their child. Nothing else at all. One blog doesn’t make them evil. And although on this hallowed page I am reluctant to suggest it – still, some blogs are full of shit. Present company excepted, of course. So, if you have any evidence that backs up your allegation, put it here.

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    fuck sake lad watchin fox news they reported a quote from prince phillip that compared recording a tv programe to making love to tv .

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    it was lad 15 mins ago on the grapvine

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Thanks for that technomist. i wondered off and started reading the lisbon treaty again. utterly unreadable and I managed to get to page 40

  167. 167
    Pam Nash says:

    The Spectator have broken cover…………..


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    Am ashamed of puny-minded judges, they should have told Carter-Ruck to jump in the lake http://renekinzett.blogspot.com/2009/10/contempt-of-democracy.html

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Yes! Plenty of times when rude words or outbursts, non-parliamentary language, that sorta thing have happened.

    Once I do not have a wine head on I shall try to find a coupla specific examples.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Milliband=lisbon treaty. Don’t forget

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    trafigura minton says:

    come and get me boys

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    rick says:

    Welcome aboard, NA, hope there’s a lot more like you.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Loads are offended daily but we keep returning

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    Claude Dauphin says:

    forgive us for we knew what we did

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    jgm2 says:

    You might want to get a screenshot of that. Right now some judge is being woken up or sobered up to put his thumbprint on another injunction.

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    […] – pleased to see that the mighty Guido Fawkes had the same idea. Injunction […]

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    formerly Tory Troll at Labout list says:

    It doesn’t work like that – an all out assault against the public would obviously fail.

    So they undermine us gradually.

    They steal our pensions so we will never retire and have free time to challenge them.

    They steal our savings and earnings so we have to work all hours and have no free time to challenge them.

    They take out massive loans in our, our children’s and grand children’s names so they will have no free time to challenge them.

    They are already fucking us – but we have been softened up so no single step has seemed bad enough to cause a rebellion – they are good, very good – they have every penny of ours to spend on experts to make it so…

  178. 178
    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Can we get Ewanme in here to explain what’s going on in simple?

  179. 179
    snafu says:

    While Paul Farrelly is asking some very important questions indeed, he will in all likelihood be swept away in the coming anti-Labour tide.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Fuck off

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    Boot says:

    Back in the days when he representented the truth.

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    jgm2 says:

    Libel costs are high but newspapers have a ‘get out’ cluase. They simply print a retraction.

    Even PE does it occasionally.

    This is where the super-injunctions come in. They prevent the hint of impropriety even getting out there. Before the newspapers solicitors councel caution and urge a retraction.

    It’s like when you just know Tony Blair lied through his teeth over Iraq and yet by a process of cabinet omerta and – errrr – suicides and official reports you just can’t quite prove it.

    Then try and imagine what it would be like if nobody was even allowed to report on the death of David Kelly. Or even the 45-minute nonsense.

    That’s our libel laws that is. You get to hear what the rich want you to hear. Because without lies they are nothing.

    See Robert Maxwell for details.

  183. 183

    […] to Guido Fawkes at Order-Order, this falls foul of the 1689 Bill of Rights. According to Wikipedia, the right is: Freedom of […]

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    Mr and Mrs Balls says:

    One blog doesn’t make them evil? They leave three toddlers alone in a flat while they slip out for a beer or two. If they were chav scum on benefits,the media would have thrown the book at them. But no,they’re middle class professionals.

  185. 185

    […] – pleased to see that the mighty Guido Fawkes had the same idea. Injunction scuppered… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Does Torture Work? […]

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    Fony Blair says:

    Standard procedure for PMQ’s. Follow up question is then unknown

  187. 187
    ferret says:

    Yes Mr “Bollocks” defence minister.Of course Hansard was redacted.

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    A Pensioner says:

    Obviously some judges are more “helpful” than others?

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    jgm2 says:

    Not sure who the company is. Never heard of ‘em to be honest but really, WTF were they thinking of? If they knew they were going to dump some nasty shit couldn’t they have just pulled up into the middle of the atlantic and dilute that shit in a squillion cubic kilometers of ocean rather than dumping it in a fucking capital city? They could have dumped 99% in the ocean and then delivered a homeopathic 1% solution of shit to Abidjan to keep the paper-work in order.

    Or pull up off the coast of Mauritania or Western Sahara and pump it into the sand in the middle of nowhere.

    I’d just love to meet the brains trust chain-of-command that came up with that solution.

  190. 190
    Anonymous says:

    A very well trained dog going wild at the dead body scent in the later (post mortem) hired car?

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    […] Tuesday, October 13, 2009 by arkadyrose London solicitors Carter-Ruck, who specialise in suing the media for clients (who include individuals or global corporations), have actually gagged the Guardian newspaper from reporting Parliamentary proceedings on legal grounds which appear to call into question privileges guaranteeing free speech established under the 1688 Bill of Rights. It’s apparently about the question highlighted in red, which has already been on Newsnight(take a good look at the picture Trafigura are responsible for). The blogger Guido Fawkes also covers it. […]

  192. 192
    Pam Nash says:

    @Morus1516 is trying to get #trafigura as a trending topic on Twitter tomorrow. You know what to do!

  193. 193
    ferret says:

    If you are an MP the chance of ever being put in chokie is very slim whatever you do, lie, steal, cheat, fiddle expenses etc etc etc

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    Brown's a Tosser says:

    I wish they could gag that fuckwit Michael White permanently. He talks such leftist crap its hard to believe he gets the air time he does.

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    little voice says:

    See Carter-Ruck’s self-congratulatory guidance on obtaining injunctions at


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    Reg511 says:

    I see today as the turning point, the step too far, the dictatorship was established long before today

    But are we not just arguing about the last tune played before sinking, by all means continue playing

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    Family Butcher says:

    Is there a growing “troughers for justice” movement emerging amongst some MPs?
    I would like to see who is first to raise his snout after Stuart Bell was suasaged tonight.

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    Lord Nimby of Brick Lane and the outer Hebrides says:

    Probably a Labour Peer/MP serving on the board of directors in a non executive,fat retainer,not responsible type of solution.
    What are the chances?

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    Lord Nimby of Brick Lane and the outer Hebrides says:

    With a warped mind like yours,a future in New Labour awaits you.

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    […] 13, 2009 Guido Fawkes is doing what the Guardian should be doing. Publish and be […]

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    Shit and go says:

    It would be a very small movement. No more than a handfull,and no need for paperwork.

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    guydenning says:

    Still rolling the blood-wagon old bean? The buggers wouldn’t dream of gagging you or Albert would they?!!

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    Stick and stick says:

    FFS. Even they see the law as a driven ass.

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    Stick and stick says:

    FFS. Even they see the law as an ass

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    Sod 'em all says:

    Lord Paul says of his expense form declared ‘main home’ “It’s true I never slept there. But it was available. I submitted the claim and I gave the flat as my address, because I have it as a place to stay.”

    “Lord Paul” will you kindly fuck off back to India. We can’t afford to support your fat brown arse over here. We have soldiers to look after and they’re far more deserving than a useless fat shit like you.

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    jgm2 says:

    Ahhh. That’s what editors (and judges) used to say. Now the judges grant an injunction before publication so that if you do publish it is no longer just a libel case but a contempt of court case. With editor (and possibly their owners) looking at jail time.

    And the guy who gets the injunction hasn’t got to waste his money on enforcing the contempt of court. That happens on our bill.

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    Mrs dales son says:

    Guido. No offence but you sounded like Iain Dale in that interview. Is he your big brother ? Don’t think he can be your dad.

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    Profits before truth says:

    It’s not the editors jail time that is the restraining influence,but the owners/publishers costs that frighten off disobedience.

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    Profits before truth says:

    FFS. Even they take the piss out of the system.

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    […] behalf of a client who must remain secret. The question itself, for anyone interested, is over here. Maybe – obviously, because they're gagged, there's no way of knowing if that's the question […]

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    formerly Tory Troll at Labout list says:

    I merely explain the warped mind of the socialists.

    Nu Labour, Old Labour, Labour, Soviets are all the same – they just change their name to try to distance themselves from the proven failure of their philosophy. Socialists clearly believe that the perpetual failure of their philosophy is entirely down to the name they choose. They clearly believe that if they get the right name then *magically* socialism will work. Obviously they are wrong – whatever the name, the philosophy is shit it makes shit of the countries it runs, it makes shit of the people it enslaves it is pure shit and midas like makes shit of all it touches.

    Any warp you see is just a reflection of your own warpedness.

    Nu labour (under blair) was bad, but old labour (as we now have with brown) is even worse still.

  213. 213

    Dozens of blogs are referencing Guido as well as other sites, I have added the links to wikileaks (which has the Barclays documentation). Who do they go for?

  214. 214
    Joseph Malik says:

    give’em credit, they do aim for loopholes a gnats dick wouldn’t otherwise fit through.

  215. 215

    Yes Carter Ruck are preventing any public discussion which does not tally exactly with the McCanns version of events.
    A sky reporter told me that they are not allowed, instructed by management, to discuss any other scenario than ‘abduction’, cos of Carter Ruck.

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    Joseph Malik says:

    Ed Balls. So what? So weak?

  217. 217
    Dan says:

    Why are you so sure the law involved is libel? Given the libel exemption for parliamentary reporting (defamation act, 1996), I’m pretty sure they must have gone by another route. Somebody has suggested sub judice, which seems fairly plausible

  218. 218

    Thank God for that!

  219. 219
    Wondering Wendy says:

    We, the good people of the UK, need to take the news agenda from Government and the BBC. Sadly I include UK newspapers in this, since they are camp followers and need the stories that the “UK State” government feed them.

    Therefore the UK news this week will be:

    Expense Gate, demands for a UK general election, Expense Gate, demands for court proceedings against current and in fact past MPs. Case in point is Tony Blair. What you don’t have your expense paperwork any more because you burnt it? Guilty of destroying evidence then. Jail the bastard.


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    Wondering Wendy says:

    I see scope in this story
    “Blunkett in brain donation pledge ”


    “Mr Blunkett, Labour MP for Sheffield Brightside, said: “I hope to be using my brain for a good while longer yet, but I’m pleased to know that it may help people in the future when I no longer have need of it.””

    Er so that’s now then David.

    Most, if not all Labour MPs do not require their brains. They are the lobby voting dead.

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    Laurence says:

    JC – are you talking about Caesar, Christ or Callaghan?

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    Chimp says:


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    Yung Alburt says:










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    […] Guido Fawkes is among those playing the favourite backbencher in Hansard game, flagging up a rather good question from Paul Farrelly MP, of Newcastle under Lyme, and a very good […]

  227. 227
    Abdul Mohammed Yassi says:

    well said yung albert, have you heard my shit somewhere before? You sound like my great Uncle Bamber Gas-coin praise be upon him, with a banjo on his knee.

    Way down in Allah Bamma et cetera.

  228. 228
    r supward says:

    stay out of the woods Guido

  229. 229

    Use Google Sidewiki and twitter to spread the news


  230. 230
    mitch says:

    dont these silly bastards know this is pointless?

  231. 231
    Anonymous says:

    Well what do we expect when we have so many self serving representatives.

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    Mandys lapdog says:

    Ooh Mandy, you chump!

  234. 234
    Mandys lapdog says:

    soon it’ll be an offence to even think about reading anything other than state authorised er news/meeja

  235. 235
    Chomping at the bit says:

    Perhaps some MP will now just ask a verbal question around this now?

  236. 236

    […] into the Twitter search box to see how active.  Political bloggers were soon onto the matter with Guido Fawkes, Iain Dale and Tory Politico acting […]

  237. 237
    nell says:

    I see someone above has published a link to trafigura . Here is one to the Barclays tax avoidance guidance.


    As lawyers are finding out to their detriment – it is possible to silence the dead tree press , at great expense, but controlling the internet is very nearly impossible.

    One other thought – although the Guardian has been gagged frpm reporting the question in the House – given that Parliament is televised – surely the awyers have not managed to get an injunction to stop that question, as it is asked, being televised?

  238. 238
    Down with Brown! says:

    Dave Cam shows brave leadership on expenses again telling is backbenchers to pay up or to not bother standing as Conservatives.

    Mr Cameron said anybody who refused to repay expenses if told to do so would not be allowed to stand as a Conservative MP. He said that anybody who refused to repay if requested by Sir Thomas Legg “can’t stand as Conservative MPs. Everybody has got to take part in this process, everybody has to respond to these letters,” he said.“MPs have to pay back the money they’re asked to by the authorities – that’s the least we can do.”

    He went on to say: “My letter didn’t raise any new issues, it asked for one mortgage statement. I’m not expecting to have to pay back anything else, but that’s up to Sir Thomas Legg.”

  239. 239
    RestandBthankful says:

    I see another snout is to be added to the troughs at the Lords – Lord Martin of Springburn – you just couldn’t make it up could you?

  240. 240
    Down with Brown! says:

    More greedy piggies squeeling in the media saying they won’t pay up, led by the ghastly Stuart Bell. Don’t let them get away with it.

  241. 241
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Spectator links posted above now hors de service

    Just WTF is going on???

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    The power of the internet cannot be contained within the paltry constraints of a judge's chambers says:

    If they didn’t – they do now.This must be a “classic” in the future of an example of how to make a relatively obscure report on a hardly reported issue in the UK be blown up into a “constitutional issue” guaranteed to explode in the faces of both Carter-Ruck & its clients

  243. 243
    Question master says:

    What’s he done?

  244. 244
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Jackie Smith went into a newsagents in Redditch this morning. Took a long look a the headlines. Tne newsagent asked. “Do you want a Telegraph”?

    Smith replied. “Er, no. I prefer The FT.”

  245. 245
    P1 says:

    Good to see the idiots wasting their (shareholder’s) money on lawyers. No doubt Carter-Ruck will charge their usual reasonable rates as well. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people.

    How does anyone think this injunction is going to hold anyway? Not so clever as they think – are they? Perhaps the clients should ask for their money back.

  246. 246
    P1 says:

    Surprised she can afford broadsheet prices, what with her having to start saving up the £160k plus interest,plus any capital gain she has made at our expense. Doh!!! May be she claims the paper on exes anyway!

  247. 247
    Phil Free says:

    Are they not written questions? If this injunction goes as far as to bar any responses appearing in hansard then things are really fucked up. Might be worth keeping an eye in case they’re withdrawn by the Table Office under sub judice rules. Though, the dept concerned may just not answer them, which is not uncommon, despite being in breach of standing orders.

  248. 248
    Raving Loon says:

    I would like to say we live in a free country, but it’s probably not true anymore.

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    A Pensioner says:

    Rump-hole of the Bailey has finally got his fat ass out of bed, and woken up m’learned friend, who has signed an injuntion.

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    […] A Fundamental Attack on Free Speech in the UK Iain Dale's Diary: Guardian Gagged Over Parliamentary Reporting Guido Fawkes: Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament […]

  251. 251

    […] Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog […]

  252. 252
    Phil Free says:

    They *edit* until printed in the Bound Volume. Though of course only ever ever statistical or typographical errors you understand. *ahem*

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    bergen says:

    All covered by Stockdale v Hansard,if my distant memory serves me.No judge-not even Eady could disregard that unless there was comment included.The simple reporting of a question cannot be impeached.

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    Phil Free says:

    In reply to 125.

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    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:


    thats the worse thing they could have done. The oil residue does not dilute in fact it would have expanded over a huge number of square miles that would have caused so much surface discolouration it could have been seen from space. Technology allows the oils even at that point to be fully analysed and the source identified. Common practice these days to investigate leaks and disposals in this way.

    Same as oil dumped on land really …..Hurrumph!!!

  256. 256
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    titfer talking bollocks – that’s not a turning point but business as usual. He’s been on the Cola Max again methinks.

  257. 257
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    In fact I can’t get any of the Speccie blogsters’ columns at the moment…

    Looks like they’ve flicked the switch on every man jack of them. What fun!

  258. 258
    Mudplugger says:

    Or Jeremy Clarkson ?

  259. 259
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Yes mate – you’ve just scuppererd Marr’s super-injunction. And hopefully stopped all blow jobs in the Marr household.

  260. 260
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Quis tauridiet ipsos tauries?

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    Anonymous says:

    Why is it that whenever anything happens some brainless chimp always pops up and says look look its the nast babee eating Tories

    Why dont you just fuck right off you twat!!

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    Phil Free says:

    And hansard debates are not recorded verbatim either. Otherwise we’d be able to read how awful most of our MPs are at public speaking. Just read any of John Prescott’s oral question responses back in the day for proof.

    Another way they work it is that the hansard reporters will ask officials in the officials box for a copy of the briefing the minister is using to help with their transcript. Also, the ministers private secretary gets the chance to check the transcript after debates for any *inaccuracies* though must say I’m not aware of them ever allowing the meaning of anything said to be changed. That’s not to say a hansard editor has never received any strongly worded *advice*.

    It’s a rotten parliament.

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    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Why just the Guardian? Can the Times, Telegraph, or the BBC [don’t laugh] report the matter? Seems a bit odd.

  264. 264

    […] The man is out of control. legal firms like Carter Ruck are running amok as a result. And consequentially a question on Parliament’s order paper cannot be reported in the Guardian. The question can be found here. […]

  265. 265
    jgm2 says:

    Well maybe it would cause a bit of a slick. But 500 tons is hardly the Torre Canyon. A few days sunshine and a couple of storms and it would be practically all dispersed. And while it’s environmentally unfriendly if you’re going to be in the business of recklessly dumping toxic waste it makes a fuck of a sight more sense to dump it in the middle of the ocean rather than in the middle of a capital city.

    Or even in the middle of a fucking desert some place. Just drill a nice deep hole in the sand, throw a couple of dozen kg of dynamite down there and blast yourself a nice big cavity and then pump the lot down there and fill in the hole.

    That’s what I’d do. The sahara has to be good for something.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    The redline was repainted with the appointment of Millibend whose name adorns the lisbon constitution. Another eye opener was a couple of years back when schools started collating personal information with forms sent home to parents. Oh and don’t forget all the other forms where you should tick any ‘grouping’ that applies, except being English wasn’t an option.

  267. 267
    GrowlingBear says:

    Apologies if this has already been posted (too lazy to read all 250 preceding posts) but the report that Trafigura is trying to suppress is on Wikileaks (together with the parliamentary question):


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    Anonymous says:

    Seemingly because its the paper of choice for the legal profession read.They probably haven’t heard of the others !

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    On 5 Live Yesterday A QC Said That This Thieving Scum Didn’t Have A Hope In Hell Of Winning A Court Case To Not Repay The STOLEN Money As They Were Acting Under “Rules” Not Laws And They Cannot Over Rule A Judge ! So Cough Up You Troughing Bastards !

  270. 270
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Fuck the Ivory coast
    I say we dump all of our potato peelings and old newspapers over there

  271. 271
    jgm2 says:

    Or toss it over the side in containers that would sink several miles to the bottom. Slow release slick twenty years from now.

    No problem.

    I think I might get into this toxic waste disposal business. Seems like money for old rope to me.

  272. 272

    […] 09:47 door Steeph Heeft de Guardian een censuurgebod aan zijn broek inzake Trafigura (Probo Koala)? Wat komt er nu niet boven tafel? censuur, gif, Ivoorkust, Probo Koala, Trafigura, Verenigd Koninkrijk, Waan v/d Dag Terug naar het […]

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    Computer says:

    This has been planned for decades as we know from political diaries. What they didn’t counter was the expanse and reach of the internet. Oh sure; the internet helps the enemy gather but it also helps us patriots too. It’s easier to sort propaganda from truth. Today I applaud The Guardian of all papers’ as it would have been so easy to forget and not print the fact that they can’t print a story. They told us last night that they can’t tell the truth. Which is the truth and not a cover-up which would have been deceiptful had they not told us that they can’t but covered it up anyway for fear of retaliation by a government who legislates against truth being told.

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Perhaps tomorrow. She’s having her toenails painted today.

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    jgm2 says:

    I don’t doubt there is an element of targetting the B&P but since, out of 70 possible MEPs, Labour only has about 15 I think it’s more that they are banning 55 MEPs who are, by their mere presence in such numbers, reminding this government how utterly loathed they are by the voters.

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    The whole sorry Tragigura report is available on PDF to the whole world.


    Now…would I have botherd to find this and then find out how bad things really are if CR hadn’t tried to gag this info? Hmm? Would I?

  277. 277
    Computer says:

    Keep telling that story msMarmiteLover.

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    Anonymous says:

    Your a complete t*sser but on this i’m with you guido !

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    One suspects that the roster is well known and that applications are timed to be dealt with by the more senile of the old dears just as they are pouring their third gin.

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    Redditch Ravens Supporter says:

    You honestly think Jacqui dares to show her face in Redditch – let alone venture down the High Street and look at all the “Jacqui Must Go” posters in the shop windows ? She is a “Dead woman walking politically” and the landslide against her will be of Portillo proportions. She knows it ! We know it ! AND now you know it !

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    R. Sunderlord says:

    Good advice there.

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    jgm2 says:

    Link still works for me.

  283. 283
    Stella says:

    I’d rather have the dog and stick.

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    R. Sunderlord says:

    I’ll be a european before that happens. Vote UKIP

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    AN Astrologer says:

    Not a propitious day. Sun squares Mars. Pushing too hard and getting a kicking.

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    Mr Ned says:

    A very warm welcome to you NA, tell all your colleagues to be on the side of the people, instead of the traitors. I hope that there are many more like you that will use your reason and intelligence, rather than blindly follow orders.

    Under Common Law, a policeman has the right to use their own discretion.

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    Irritable Brownal Syndrome says:

    Get it right! This is a democracy. We REDACT!!

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    They Have Taken Lessons Off “Supercock Call MeBig Papa” Burlusconi He Controls all the Media In Titaly And The Poison Dwarf Sarcozy Where They Also Have Tough restrictions On The Press ! WELCOME TO THE EU !

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    Anonymous says:

    And if Dragon Farage toasts Bercow we get St George as speaker

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    That sounds expensive: containers and somehow making them sink.

    Watching that Youtube link it seems the most stupid thing they did was to dump it near a heavily populated area. The tribal elder woke up the following morning “with a smell in his nostrils”. Oh yes I love the smell of compensation in the morning.

    I’ll bet things are buzzing in the Trafigura offices this morning. If the idea was to clear this up quietly someone has fucked up big time.

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    what a bunch of chumps

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    Get Ready says:

    There is no parliamentary democracy; all the power now lies with the eu – you can and probably wiil be executed for ‘rebellion’ or ‘sedition’,

    ‘ In times of war, or imminent threat of war ‘, or under any circumstances the state decrees necessary’. ie if you complain about their expenses after ratification.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    It’s back up now. Was down for a while. That or Trafigura’s henchpersons had somehow injuncted my computer.

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    […] you read the Guardian this morning you wouldn’t know that, but who’d have thought that the internet could be so powerful. VN:F [1.7.0_948]please wait…Rating: 0.0/10 (0 votes cast) […]

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    Anonymous says:

    exactly… it’s softly softly catchy monkey.

    No one thing is quite worthy or graspable to riot, but everything is worse than the last.

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    Doc Trough says:

    Just spoken to a former colleague who grew up in Dresden. Even he raised an eyebrow……he told me.

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    Here’s the thing – they are stealing the country and enslaving us by consent. They’re voted in. Polls say no matter how repressive they get, a sizeabl echunk of the population support them. Everything that happens is fascists pushing against an open door. They’re not dumb – this is the culmination of a 60 year plan – longer than that in fact. Ever since the fabians started pondering controlling education – state education, rather than locally run education – this outcome was inevitable. A long slow game of developing ignorance and idiocy, of mass media infantilism, of subtle and pervasive brainwashing, in effect. I’m no leftie but add Chomsky to Gramsci and it’s fairly obvious that the only way of maintaining political control in a faux democracy is via constant media manipulation – control of the media. And for a century they’ve ahd it their own way.

    Buy then… along come t’internet. And they do not fucking like it up ‘em.

    Now, as for red lines…. well, mine was slightly different. Not what they did in government so much as when I discovered the mass media lied. The Glorious Poll Tax Insurection – a police car attacked with a scafolding pole – remember that? On all the media. Police quietly minding their own business, and some hooligan lobs a steel tube through their windscreen. Except it didnt’ happen like that. What happened was that that car had driven into a line of sit down protestors at maybe 40 mph, and the crowd then responded by attacking the cops. But, y’know, entirely accidentally,t he BBC and every other media outlet showed the video out of sequence to tell a different story. Funny eh. And how do I know? Well you figure it out…

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    Two Party State says:

    You are a dreamer

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    I jested with an imaginary unfounded animation of a jesticulation, jokingly.

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    Mr Ned says:

    Remember when they used to ask that question in number form years ago?

    Number 9 Mr Speaker …

    I refer the hon. gentleman to the reply I gave some moments ago…

    Ah, happy days. When we used to have a pretence of democracy.

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    jgm2 says:

    Well oil is lighter than water so the tendency will be for barrels of oil to float but if you stuck (say) forty oil drums (10 cubic metres) of this shit in a shipping container and filled the rest of the space with rocks then you could dump 10 cubic metres for the cost of a knackered shipping container. All of which is not particularly expensive.

    I’m pretty sure 10 tons of rocks would carry that shit to the bottom.

    Fifty containers. Job done.

    Although looking at the report linked elsewhere on this site about 350 tons of that was a water and NaOH mix. You could just pump that shit straight in the ocean and nobody would be any the wiser.

    Suddenly you’re only looking at 15 containers.

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    Lizzie says:

    Sick! New and old Labour are now resorting to such low levels of tactics to prevent the public knowing what they are up to. The next thing will be Brown announcing new legislation to stay in power longer, but the rope is running out for him.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Well he did sound a bit breathless but her aftershave was probably a bit strong?

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    Guido you tool what on earth is your modding script looking for? It’s getting right on my tits. Perfectly possible to hack wordpress to deliver far more subtle auto-quarantining, taking into account,f or instance, users’ previous posting record. I work with this kinda php shit all day – quite happy to talk to your developers to coax something a bit more user-friendly out, if you like.

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    Anonymous says:

    Ouch the truth hurts

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    Lizzie says:

    Wait till Labour try to gag “The Sun”, that could be very interesting.

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    chronic says:

    Baby eating politicians of whatever party are wankers.

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    superbad says:

    Anyone else waiting for the day Gorgon brings forward a Bill to make an emergency piece of legislation allowing him to extend the period between elections, because it’s the right thing to do for hard working families. I expect it too will be subject to a gagging order.

    Aside from detention without trial, wars of vanity, gagging orders, arrests of political opponents and Tony Bliar shredding his receipts and waltzing off with millions – we I think have crossed yet another boundary and move ever closer to full on banana republic land.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    The Spectator is running with the story.

    The Press Gazette just woke up:


    Twitter and the blogosphere are going buggo.

    It’s as if the Claimants involved deliberately want to stoke publicity for what would otherwise be a largely ignored piece buried on page 27.

    Gotta love the internet.

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    Be_careful_out_there says:

    Anyone see the Newsnight EDL report. (Monday night)
    Could one be be “managed” any more.

    Swastika flag (regardless of burning it or not)
    Black masks
    UDA “links”

    These guys played right into the media’s hands. Wot a fuck up.
    I bet that groups full of STASI agents already to send some fucka to prison.

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    Anonymous says:

    Does that mean BOTH Eady and Carter-Ruck in the Bell Chamber of Big Ben

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    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    I wonder how much money was spent trying to keep all references to the report at http://www.wikileaks.com/wiki/Minton_report:_Trafigura_Toxic_dumping_along_the_Ivory_Coast_broke_EU_regulations,_14_Sep_2006 off the web?

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    That old saying …’don’t like what you say but ‘will defend your right to say it. never so true.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    LOVED the chap asserting that the black balaclavas were no different to a woman’s burkha.

    And at such pains to denigrate nazis…

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    Anonymous says:

    How long before Googel bans the juxtaposition – just like they edit searches on Scientology?

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    TIT 4 TAT







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    TA Major says:

    It seems a bit daft to draw attention to something you want hidden by publicly demanding that it be hidden.

    O/T I’m waiting to see if Carter Ruck are going to act for the Baron Castleshort over his appearances in the Sun, Private Eye and the Army Rumour Service. If he hadn’t tried to silence his critics they would not have delved into his CV and found him to be a Walter Mitty.

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    tat says:

    you are all confusing new labour control freakery with real dictatorship.
    the controlling of the press is the last red line before the anti democratic lisbon constitution is finally and irredeemably in place.
    your points are correct in that an elective dictatorship has ofcourse been fermenting in this country for decades and you have all kindly offered examples to top boy, but we are in real time now and these are the months in which all the loose strands of that dictatorship are being drawn together.
    once the treaty is ratified there will be no return to democracy in this country.
    the european constitution must be stopped at all costs.
    reg is quite right, let us stop arguing about the last tune and let us write a new democratic one.
    and we should all understand and be under no illusion that we may well have to take up arms to defend our democracy.
    if you wish to stop the dictatorship non violently then vote independent.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    It’s the cruel and arbitrary use of power. Keep the population in fear. The Machiavelli thing.

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    The master of the vessel would lose his commission doing what you suggest. He found some local outfit on shore who said they could dispose of it properly and cheaply. The fact is they were cowboys like most other local companies who know exactly who to bribe and how much. But apparently these were the cowboy’s cowboy.

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    It stinks (and it's toxic) says:


    It’s viral in America including links to ‘the’ report.

    San Francisco Bay Guardian…..

    ‘The Guardian of London just received a stunning gag order forbidding the paper from reporting on a Parliamentary debate.

    Check this out:

    Today’s published Commons order papers contain a question to be answered by a minister later this week. The Guardian is prevented from identifying the MP who has asked the question, what the question is, which minister might answer it, or where the question is to be found.

    The Guardian is also forbidden from telling its readers why the paper is prevented – for the first time in memory – from reporting parliament. Legal obstacles, which cannot be identified, involve proceedings, which cannot be mentioned, on behalf of a client who must remain secret.

    Whoa. The thing is, with today’s social networking and fast-moving media, I suspect somebody’s going to leak and post the info pretty quickly anyway.’

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    I’ve read the report that they tried to suppress. Death has been downgraded to only a “symptom” of coming into contact with the toxic waste. Ha! Ha!

    The relevant passage is highlighted here

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    tat says:

    very good.
    one of your better efforts.

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    MI5 says:

    Great work Guido

    We the people will win in the end…

    Piano wire for Carter Ruck and co…

    When their treason is out there for all to see…

    Many of our ancestors died to obtain the Bill of Rights…and the freedom of Parliamentary reporting…


    I must be one of your few co-conspirators who not only knows Nevis but also built a house there last year…I know the good lawyers there as well…so I’m always available for help…

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    The fact is Dave-you claimed to have work done to your house which was not an expense relating to your public role as an Honourable Gentleman of HM opposition party and it was not a rightful reimbursement from tax payers. You tried to have us over and was found out.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    (to Frank at 303)

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    Mr Shadrack says:

    Vair true. Vair vair true.

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    Josef Müller-Brockmann says:

    Frank, I would shut ze fuck up about design, the blue colour on your blog is cacken

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    I tried (unsuccessfully) to secure Mr Carter-Ruck’s services when wrongfully accused of act of ‘violence’ during a big night out in Manchester several years ago. Bastard didn’t wan’t to know, not interested in the ‘little’ cases. Fucker.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    That reminds me I must renew my fishing licence today. thanks

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    Ethical man says:

    Sorry I’m not following this story.

    It’s not like Farter Ruck actually threw African babies intoxic waste. I don’t think they would do anything illegal. I’m sure they are highly ethical individuals and wouldn’t have anything to do with poisioning African babies with toxic waste.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    How mulch are you being paid to write that?

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    Mr Ned says:


    Come on Klaus, resist signing for as long as possible. Then we, the patriotic and proud sovereign people of the UK can make the whole Lisbon Treaty irrelevant anyway.

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    Trafigura and Carter Fuck – gag democracy* at your peril.

    Jess The Dog is shoulder to shoulder with the blogosphere.


    * Well, sort of a democracy, but better than a lawyerocracy.

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    Technomist says:

    Nothing. None of them have done anything for years.

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    […] Guido was one of, if not the first, bloggers to speculate which question was being prevented from being reported. […]

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    Technomist says:

    Maybe they are not used to having so many people reading them

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    No. But we wouldn’t have found out that parliament is being gagged either. Two birds with one moan

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    Mr Ned says:

    By getting the injunction, Carter Ruck have given this story a shit-load of publicity. Why would they want to do that? Clearly they MUST have known that this would be the outcome?

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    ExEng says:

    Sadly this is normal. After the Tsunami in 2004 it turned out that the un-guarded Somalia coast had been used for years as a dumping ground for toxic chemicals.

    It is in “their” interest to have poor or war-torn states that have no policing of the coastal waters. Where else would they dump it!

    “Many of these attacks were directed against French and other expatriates, and thousands fled the country. Brief episodes of significant civil unrest in Abidjan and some of the other population centres occurred in late 2005 and again in late 2006. ”

    Dumping occurred August 2006.

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    jgm2 says:

    The master of the vessel is hardly likely to lose his commission from some land-locked flag-of-convenience ‘maritime’ nation.

    And he’d only lose it if caught and convicted.

    Caught by who? Convicted by who?

    There was a Russian cargo ship went walkabout for a few weeks recently. Nobody had a clue where it was. Nobody could find it. Once they’re out of port these fuckers can do practically what they like with impunity.

    But personally if I was in the business of flambouyantly dumping toxic waste I’d be pumping anything soluble into the ocean and then sailing into (say) Mauritania and paying some locals to dump the rest of it down a handy hole in the middle of the desert. I mean pumping it into a dump in a capital city. FFS. As you say – the cowboys de tutti cowboys.

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    Freedom! says:

    Not a sausage about this on the BBC News.

    Funnny that!

    Welcome to the EU boys and girls

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Fecking brilliant!

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    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    A firm of lawyers working for a rich corporation has asked a judge to stop a newspaper reporting something the don’t like and the clown has agreed with them.

    Please explain how the Labour party involved in this?

    Do you realise the anguish you have caused in making me defend this bunch of tossers? Please think and be more considerate.

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    Arsophist says:

    Not sure who the company is. Never heard of ‘em but comment is free eh jgm2?

    Wikipedia: Trafigura is a Swiss-based multinational company founded in 1993 trading in base metals and energy, including oil. As of 2008 it had equity of more than US$2bn and a turnover of US$73bn that generated US$440 million of profit.[3]

    That is one tasty return on capital employed if you have a clue about these things. So tasty, you need your own charitable foundation to spend it. But don’t stop there, because an interesting name pops up in the next paragraph, that has been mentioned in texts that also mention Slick Willy Clinton. Funnily enough the name also occurs and is no secret in connection with a Tory MP whose name escapes me right now.

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    Mr Ned says:

    They can only find you in contempt, if you accept their jurisdiction. Do not accept the jurisdiction of any defacto magistrate court, for they are not a court of the people, but a court of commerce. They are a private enterprise and you need not accept their conditions.

    You must be smart to not accidentally act in such a way as to accept their jurisdiction.

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    I’ll vote independent if you shut the fuck up about it.

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    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    No I agree. I don’t believe that their own people knew that the waste was toxic either. If it was thought to be toxic then the authorities should have told them that they can’t take it back and re-load it onto the boat.
    What I’m angry about is our Parliament is being suppressed by some suits in civvy street not unlike some of those traitorous suits in europe and at home who go around pretending to serve us whilst taking parliamentary salaries and lordship expenses.

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    udderly 'orrible says:

    Twitter world is all a tweeter, the gag has been breached.


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    It stinks (and it's toxic) says:

    The banality of evil

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    […] Parliamentary Order Paper here (question 61). Guido Fawkes’ take on the matter can be found here. Next Left’s take here. And Iain Dale here. Spread the word and have a read of the rest of Mr […]

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    But he didn’t dump it. He legally unloaded his cargo at a port where another company took possession. When it was on land it was no longer under his control nor his responsibility/

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    And so ends the case for the defence, m’lud.

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    Anonymous says:

    Sickening comments!

    I’m a sea hugger! I’ve seen all the destruction and pollution of the worlds Oceans first hand.

    All that I saw was made by commercial companies. Even these stupid ideas of seeding the oceans with iron to produce more blooms is just a disguise for dumping acid washing waste from the steel industry.

    Leave the Oceans alone.

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    W.E Gladrags says:

    This is definitely now a socialist dictatorship. I have had a letter from the Rural Payments Agency telling me that my milk quota has been confiscated into the national reserve because i haven’t made any sales during the previous quota year. That quota cost me tens of thousands of pounds a few years ago.

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    Johnny says says:

    Presumably Carter-Cock wouldn’t try to prevent the EU from mentioning this – they state quite openly in a document from 2006 that “in mid-August the Probo Koala cargo ship, sailing under a Panamanian flag and chartered by the Dutch company Trafigura Beheer, offloaded a total of 528 tonnes of toxic waste at Côte d’Ivoire’s capital Abidjan, which resulted in the death of eight people and caused health problems in several thousand others,”

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    Mr Ned says:

    That depends how one decides to define the word “democracy”.

    According to those in power here, it has nothing to do with the will of the people, as these shits have criticised countries whose elections have produced a winning party with total overall majorities in support (Russia, Iran, Palestinian Authority) and are having our troops killed to prop up a crook who blatantly stole an election (Afghanistan). They supported the ousting the first elected Prime Minister in Iraq, to be replaced by A more suitable American puppet, within a year of their first election and the bastards here are running the Government without any electoral accountability whatsoever, As most of the Government is now run by Mandelson who was not elected AT ALL!!!

    They are in favour of ratifying the EU treaty without a promised vote to appoint an unelected President of Europe.

    So it would seem that democracy means “the retention of power without, and in spite of, the will of the people”. If that is what they mean by democracy, then we are a democracy.

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    Engineer says:

    I’m only a thick Engineer, so I’m a bit lost here.

    A gagging order has been obtained in advance of a question being asked (quite properly, and following the correct precedure) in the House of Commons.

    1) Is it possible to legally prevent an MP from asking a question in the House?

    2) Once the question has been asked (and presumably, answered, even if inadequately) the question and answer are published in Hansard. Is it legally possible to have parts of Hansard’s record suppressed or deleted?

    If the answers are ‘no’ and ‘no’, what’s the point of this gagging order? Doesn’t it just highlight the subject of the question? Using reverse logic, is that someone’s intention, to highlight something that otherwise would be lost in the mass of daily parliamentary business?

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    jgm2 says:

    Oh I know he didn’t dump it. I’m just saying what I’d do if I was in the business of flambouyantly dumping shit without too much concern for t’invironment.

    I mean of all the fucking daft places to dump shit – right in the middle of a capital city. That has to be the worst dumping ground ever. Apart from tipping it in the fucking reservoir like Homer Simpson.

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    jgm2 says:

    Turnover of 73bn that generated 440mn profit? That’s a pretty low profit on turnover.

    And seriously – I’d never heard of ‘em before this.

    So that injunction went well.

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    jgm2 says:

    Tell us more ned.

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    Pork N' Pen Club says:

    Time for this old firm of wig-heads to shut up shop, they belong to the middle ages!

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    Tom says:

    The injunction prevents publication by the press. Since that USED to be the only place people got their news from, it prevented anyone who didn’t attend parliament or read Hansard from hearing about it.

    Of course in today’s digital age doing it is incredibly counter-productive, as we can see on the web this morning! Though the removal of #trafigia from Twitter’s trending topics shows that the old guard can still exert some influence.

    Nothing that Carter-Ruck have done affects parliament itself. The question will be asked and answered, it just can’t (as things stand) be reported on.

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    Tom says:

    For “though” read “although”.

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    […] The man is out of control. legal firms like Carter Ruck are running amok as a result. And consequentially a question on Parliament’s order paper cannot be reported in the Guardian. The question can be found here. […]

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    Tom says:

    And incidentally, while it may well be that correct legal procedure was followed the real issue here is a constitutional one. This order is going to strengthen the case for a written document immensely.

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    Tom says:

    Hang on, that doesn’t actually make a difference. :P

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    Flat Eric says:

    It’s not the attack dog solicitors who should be the target – they will go on their choke chains as far as the judges allow, it is the wig head on the bench who needs a good talking to on dog control.

    Anyway, this would all have passed without much comment I expect if these stupid gagging orders hadn’e been granted.

    Pass it on I say.

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    Doc Trough says:

    Other than his alleged state of ‘control’, is anything …..ahem, known, of the learned judge?

  374. 374

    […] here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and […]

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    […] on. In no particular order, you’re now famous to the readers of, inter alia, Iain Dale, Guido, Dizzy, Next Left, Unity, Chicken Yoghurt, Harry’s Place and Timmy, as well as here and at […]

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    Engineer says:

    Thanks for that, Tom, but I’m still a bit confused. Hansard is a document of public record (as I understand), so how is it legally possible to prevent the reporting of something recorded in Hansard? If it’s in Hansard, it’s in the public domain, isn’t it?

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    Anonymous says:

    A request ;- can I encourage you all to “cut and paste” this story into the Guardian comments – ideally the most popular stories !

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    Peter McFarlane says:

    Wikileaks.com is currently unavailable in the UK.

    Looks like C-R’s are not quite the dummies you hoped they were. Have they frightened some hosting company somewhere?

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    […] The Guardian was prevented from identifying the MP who has asked the question, what the question is, which minister might answer it, or where the question is to be found. But bloggers and Twitterers quickly started spreading information about the case and speculating on what the question might be. […]

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    Anonymous says:

    Time to find some IP addresses of Carter-Ruck and begin war games?

  383. 383

    […] hier verlinkten Geschichte zu tun haben könnte und weitere veröffentlichen derweil einige Fakten, die relevant sein […]

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    […] Speculation around the gagging order obtained by lawyers Carter Ruck against The Guardian has zero-ed in on a parliamentary question mentioning Trafigura, who are alleged to have dumped hundreds of tons of toxic waste in the Ivory Coast. Parliamentary blogger Guido Fawkes pointed to this report on Wikileaks. […]

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    […] Guido already has a guess. I won’t publish it here – Alex already has enough legal […]

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    […] Guido Fawkes published a related parliamentary question in full and provides a link to the Minton report […]

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    stedmancinques says:

    ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’

    Lucky Bastards!

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    Anonymous says:

    ‘Looks like C-R’s are not quite the dummies you hoped they were. Have they frightened some hosting company somewhere?’

    Well I can view it.

    More likely it crashed due to amount of traffic.

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    Evan Price says:

    Have you heard of legal professional privilege? Do you think it a good idea that people should be able to obtain confidential advice and assistance in the context of current or anticipated proceedings?

    If you do, what’s wrong with protecting that confidentiality?

    Notwithstanding the ‘horse has bolted’ point and the point that the injunction appears far wider than required, there is a real legal and constitutional issue here.

  390. 390

    […] Guido Fawkes at order-order: ‘Guardian gagged’ […]

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    It’ll be just like the Swine Flu deaths, “underlying conditions”.

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    Carter Fuck can go and fuck themselves.

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    […] Guardian gagged from reporting parliament | Media | The Guardian Luckily its leaking out anyway – Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog There has been a spate of pre-emptive injunctions recently on Newspapers that prevent them from […]

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    […] Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog […]

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    Anonymous says:

    When quotas were introduced they were allocated ie given (not sold) to producers.

    The authorities gave out quota and when it was not used for the purpose it was created, they take it back.

    The buying and selling of quota is a function of a capitalist economy, not of socialism.

    You backed the wrong horse. Tough.

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    Tony E says:

    I cannot for the life of me see why they are using lawyers to suppress this. I have read it, and it reads like a standard operating proceedure for a tank wash in the Chemical or Oil industry.

    The significant part of the report is either missing, or has not been written at that point. This is how the chain of responsibility for the waste progressed at the point it was unloaded from the tanker.

    Minton’s report as on Wikileaks right now, does not, and pointedly states that it does not, contain any evidence as to what happened to the waste between the point at which it was unloaded and subsequently dumped. He even goes as far as to say that it may have been partially treated, and makes no specific accusation against either the company or the tanker captain.

    So why the heavey handed action, and more imortantly , why has a judge seen fit to go along with it in regard to an MP’s question?

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    […] to Guido the report they’d really rather we didn’t here about is this […]

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    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    I am at the end of this thread and no one has blamed Thatcher for all of this.

    Bloody hell that has to be a first!

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    Australian says:

    Johnny Cash, I think!

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    Gaggin' for it says:

    Gag Carter-Ruck. Flashmob silent protest Thursday 1pm http://tweetvite.com/event/gagcarterruck

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    Bock and collocks says:

    What’s wrong with an ass. Does this mean my career is over?

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    […] in parliament later this week. The gag was obtained by Carter-Ruck. Wonder if it is this question: Read more Share and […]

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    Rt Rev. Reverend Wright says:

    I’ve just had a dump. Don’t think it was on the Ivory Coast though.

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    Rt Rev. Reverend Wright says:

    Theft only amounts to “inadvertently” overclaiming expenses as an MP or Cabinet minister and getting caught.

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    Harry Potter says:

    I’ve just sent them an owl. Cease and Bepissed order.

  409. 409
    Mr Ned says:

    Check out videos on youtube by the antiterrorist.

  410. 410
    Up before the beak says:

    It’s because it started in America. A world-wide problem, etc, etc.

    You have not been listening.
    Silly boy.

  411. 411
    Keebird says:

    Paul Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the Court of Appeal judgment in May 2009 in the case of Michael Napier and Irwin Mitchell v Pressdram Limited in respect of press freedom to report proceedings in court.”


    Cater Fuck lost this case for Michael Napier in a huge way – here is the bailli link:


    just shows how people above the law think they can get way with anything they like….. just like Napier being given a gong for his works to the legal profession (but he didn’t tell anyone that he was officially reprimanded for a so called “minor offense”)….now how does that work???


    looking forward to what Paul farrally has to say tomorrow…….

  412. 412

    The BBC finally got around to reporting the story after The Press Association found a safe way into the story:


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  415. 415
    Henry V says:

    “God for Harry, England and St George!”

  416. 416
    WobblyJim says:

    what is the name of the Judge who signed this ?

    Bright sunshine please

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  418. 418
    Daveyone says:

    Is it Soviet Britain or just B***S***?

  419. 419
    Carter Ruck Off says:

    You mean to say we cant discuss the fact that Mc Cains senior left their kids on their own while they went for a piss up.I suppose we cant discuss that they should have been done for neglect at the very least.

  420. 420
    ??? says:


    Carter-Ruck are clearly bluffing, and have exceeded their authority.

    As with the reporting of court proceedings, you cannot be sued for reporting the proceedings of parliament, or parliamentary questions – it all comes under parliamentary privilege.

  421. 421
    Anonymous says:

    Carter-Ruck Capitulates !! It makes a change !!

    ‘Let Freedom Reign !!’

  422. 422
    Australian says:

    I just hope there are not too many parallels between the consequences for Mr Klaus and his country attempting to stop a pan-European juggernaut today and the consequences for Mr Beneš and Czechoslovakia who tried to do the same thing alone in 1938 while the UK dithered on the sidelines…

    Call Me Dave would do well to remember Duff Cooper’s resignation speech on 3 October 1938 (described by Churchill as “one of the finest parliamentary performances I have ever heard”):

    “I thought then, and I have always felt, that in any other international crisis that should occur our first duty was to make plain exactly where we stood and what we would do. I believe that the great defect in our foreign policy during recent months and weeks has been that we have failed to do so…

    “I have forfeited a great deal. I have given up an office that I loved, work in which I was deeply interested and a staff of which any man might be proud … I have ruined, perhaps, my political career. But that is a little matter; I have retained something which is to me of great value – I can still walk about the world with my head erect.”

    Well, Dave, will YOU be able to walk about the word with your head erect when you become “Prime Minister” next year of a country which has ceased to exist because you failed NOW unequivocally to back Mr Klaus in the Czech Republic trying to preserve the existence of HIS country?

  423. 423
    smigglefish says:

    Actually the Guardian are playing a shrewd hand, the bigger story is that they are being gagged. The original story might not even have made page 4 but being gagged will be frontpage and then they can run the degagging story as frontpage as well. These media lawyer types are a bit dense…

  424. 424
    Flat Eric says:

    Widdecombe IS revolting.

  425. 425

    […] blogosphere, however, refuses to be gagged. This is the question the Guardian is gagged from […]

  426. 426

    […] Ivory Coast shows they died of H2S poisoning. What is Trafiguras comment to this? MORE HERE: Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament – Guy Fawkes' blog Daily Kos: State of the […]

  427. 427

    […] coverage by: The Guardian, Guido Fawkes, Next Left, The Spectator, The Third Estate, Iain Dale, Boing Boing, The […]

  428. 428
    Archibald Maule Ramsay says:

    Too late!

    No dust have I to cover me,
    My grave no man may show;
    My tomb is this unending sea,
    As I lie far below.
    My fate, O stranger, was to drown;
    And where it was the ship went down
    Is what the sea birds know.

    Edwin Arlington Robinson

  429. 429

    […] shut something up, it has resulted in a lot more coverage for the item with it being published by Guido, Iain Dale, and JTO, together no doubt with hundreds of other bloggers – I say that because I […]

  430. 430

    […] The Guardian now reports that the question to be asked in parliament is the following one from Labour MP Paul Farrelly:- “To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the effectiveness of legislation to protect (a) whistleblowers and (b) press freedom following the injunctions obtained in the High Court by (i) Barclays and Freshfields solicitors on 19 March 2009 on the publication of internal Barclays reports documenting alleged tax avoidance schemes and (ii) Trafigura and Carter-Ruck solicitors on 11 September 2009 on the publication of the Minton report on the alleged dumping of toxic waste in the Ivory Coast, commissioned by Trafigura.” This was suggested as the likely candidate yesterday by Guido Fawkes here […]

  431. 431

    […] Here is the question, about Trafigura, recycled by Guido, in which the word Trafigura appears at the end, where its says: Trafigura. And thanks to Guido for linking to the Mr Eugenides piece about Trafigura. I would hate to have missed Mr Eugenides's piece, about Trafigura.Guido is on a mission just now (one of many) to talk up anything even semi-coherent that anyone even semi-coherent says in favour of freedom of speech, especially if what anyone semi-coherent says involves recommending cooperation in favour of free speech by otherwise non-like-minded people. I recently discovered this to my opposite-of-cost, if you get my drift, when, to my amazement, Guido linked to this rather inconsequential posting of mine, about a bizarre woman who is trying to stop some lefties telling the bizarre truth about her. Guido's meme is: we must all unite across the spectrum against any attempts to stifle fair comment on matters of public interest, no matter how much we may all disagree with each other's ideological prejudices on all other topics. I did my bit by doing my bit about the bizarre Johanna Kaschke (as have many others and in particular many other libertarians) because she is farce, but, unfarcically for them, she is suing these lefties for basically saying how farcical she is by recycling a few farcical facts about her. Let us hope that the principle that truth is a defence against a libel accusation will save the lefties, even if at great expense of money and nervous energy (because even the most insane suer (is that the right spelling? – maybe not) can sometimes win). […]

  432. 432
    RavingMad says:

    yes, I’m afraid you are correct, we cannot discuss how the McCanns left their children in the apartment while they went out for an evening’s entertainment in total ignorance that anything may happen to the children and one in particular. It is a crying shame. But like everything NuLabour, they didn’t intend to do anything wrong and it wasn’t against the rules, apparently.

  433. 433
    jackie ashley says:

    oh fuck

  434. 434
    RavingMad says:


    you mean we now, finally have democracy

    oh good

  435. 435

    […] posts in that list include: Guido Fawkes, Mr Eugenides, Devils Kitchen, Harry’s Place, Chicken Yoghurt, Daniel1979, Dizzy Thinks, […]

  436. 436

    […] question.  Guido Fawkes (and you have no idea how much it pains me to credit him) had checked the Commons order paper, and wondered if it related to one scheduled by Paul Farrelly, Labour MP […]

  437. 437

    […] Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament According to the Guardian, despite the 1688 Bill of Rights, it has been gagged from reporting a question to be asked in parliament later this week. The gag was obtained by Carter-Ruck. […]

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    Carter Ruck may be many things but stupid isn’t one of them. It would not have taken a genius to figure out how this would be played out given that the Minton Report has been on Wikileaks since 14 September and it was fairly clear that the Guardian already knew about it. My guess is that this may well be a small storm to divert attention.

  440. 440
    Sylvyo Tally says:


    2 L8*

    2 LITTLE, 2 L8*






  441. 441

    […] – pleased to see that the mighty Guido Fawkes had the same idea. Injunction […]

  442. 442
    dave says:

    “They’ve got to be protected,
    all their rights respected,
    until someone we like can be elected.”

    From Tom Lehrer, “Send the Marines”

  443. 443

    […] story that is not a story appears on the front page of the Guardian. Bloggers scent something amiss. Guido Fawkes does his thing and (I believe) is the first person to identify the question that is probably […]

  444. 444

    […] question, the subject matter of the gag, correctly identified by Guido Fawkes, Alex Massie of The Spectator – who published details of the question while other mainstream […]

  445. 445

    […] streets at lunchtime today. Bloggers who posted Farrelly’s questions in full included the political website Guido Fawkes and the Spectator magazine […]

  446. 446

    […] (Blog) Order-Order.com – Guardian Gagged from Reporting Parliament […]

  447. 447
    MrCrane says:

    Rest assured there are.

  448. 448

    […] streets at lunchtime today. Bloggers who posted Farrelly’s questions in full included the political website Guido Fawkes and the Spectator magazine website.Large numbers of messages were posted on Twitter, to the extent […]

  449. 449

    […] streets at mealtime today. Bloggers who posted Farrelly’s questions in flooded included the political website Guido Fawkes and the Spectator entrepot […]

  450. 450

    […] Minton report and the Spectator blog article, Wikipedia, Liberal Conspiracy, Ministry of Truth, Guido Fawkes (grudgingly, but he did find the question first and set the dogs loose) and of course the Guardian. […]

  451. 451

    […] Guido Fawkes is among those playing the favourite backbencher in Hansard game, flagging up a rather good question from Paul Farrelly MP, of Newcastle under Lyme, and a very good […]

  452. 452
    Tork of The Devil says:





  453. 453
    Anonymous says:

    Let us again refer to them as Farter Fuck, just because it really annoys them.

    Wankers one and all. Hope they sleep well tonight thinking about those kids in Africa with serious burns, lung problems and maybe orphaned because of the Tits of Trafigura.

  454. 454

    […] to prevent getting into the public domain. In gagging the Guardian, their injunction had backfired. Guido Fawkes and various other blogs had already released the name of the MP tabling the question as well as the […]

  455. 455

    […] to prevent getting into the public domain. In gagging the Guardian, their injunction had backfired. Guido Fawkes and various other blogs had already released the name of the MP tabling the question as well as the […]

  456. 456

    […] to publish the details of a parliamentary question, asked yesterday by Paul Farrelly MP, about freedom of the press and whistleblowers in the context of the appalling Trafigura Ivory Coast toxic dumping scandal – but they went […]

  457. 457
    voice0reason says:

    Just heard about this, they reported it on FNC.com, and I found out about it from twitter. Glad to see you guys “across the pond” keeping free speech alive and the government inline via blogs and twitter, show them that suppression of free speech will not pass. Media suppression in China, Iran, then UK…what’s next US? I hope not for our sake over here.

    I’m trying to inform them over here as well voice0reason

  458. 458
    bluecat says:

    I’m glad to see it was overturned – and well done you for making the gag impossible to enforce.

    Ironic that the attempt was to cover up a question about protecting whistle-blowers.

    The comparison that springs to my mind is Blackwater, the mercenary military group that was deemed to be outside the laws of the country where it operated, Iraq, AND outside the laws of the US, where it is incorporated.

    Watch out for more of this kind of thing.

  459. 459

    […] platforms, and the question about Trafigura got picked up by a number of prominent blogs, including Guido Fawkes, Richard Wilson’s Don’t Get Fooled Again, and Adam Tinworth’s One Man and His […]

  460. 460

    […] für Empörung über die Anwaltskanzlei, im Internet sorgte es dafür, dass die Anfrage auf prominenten Blogs landete. Noch bevor der Guardian die Verfügung anfechten konnte, zog die Anwaltskanzlei sie […]

  461. 461
    Damian Puke III says:

    There’s a lot more to discuss about the McCanns than ‘simple’ negligence. But it’s true that aside from a few havens of free speech on the web, nobody dare go there.

  462. 462

    […] noch am selben Abend auf den Seiten des englischen Parlaments gefunden und auf Twitter und in Blogs publiziert. Es handelte es sich um Anfrage eines Labour-Abgeordneten in der es um Fragen der Pressefreiheit im […]

  463. 463
    ADilbert says:

    Front page of the Torygraph now.


    This hasn’t gone well for Trafigura. Do you think they might be due a refund from Carter-Ruck?

  464. 464

    […] and speculation about the Guardian’s reports was rife. The Spectator and bloggers including Guido Fawkes had published Farrelly’s question in […]

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