October 10th, 2009

The State of Play Post-Conference

rsz_yg-today-votingintentionNote that Labour’s number drops back before the end of their conference, immediately after Brown’s speech.  In contrast the speeches of Clegg and Cameron lifted their respective party’s numbers.  He is a Jonah for the Labour Party and the country…


263 Comments

  1. 1
    going mental says:

    so gordons relaunch 144489 failed then ?

    • 8
      W.W. says:

      Should someone not mark the door of Number 10 with a cross to warn all who enter.

      I notice the gloss has come off Obamha since he shook hands with Jonah.

      W.W.

      • 10
        W.W. says:

        As for re-launches, you would have more chance of sucessfully re-launching the Titanic.

        W.W.

        • 25
          BBC PC Brigade says:

          O/T Not one of you warned me, I have just started watcing TW, Diane Abbot has morphed into a Carol Thatcher comment…..

          • Doc Trough says:

            Brillo to Abbott:

            “People would pay good money to see your woggle on live TV”

            That one?

          • Fred Goodwin's Duck Palace says:

            Those poll numbers, as predicted, are yet more proof that things can and still could get far worse under Brown.

            They will also cause chaos among those Labour Ministers plotting for Brown’s job.

            The plotters thought they could just sit back and have a nice bunfight after Brown lost but it’s becoming increasingly clear that many if not ALL of them will lose their seats and jobs as an MP if these catastrophic poll numbers stay anywhere near this level.

            They will get what they deserve as any fool could have told them Brown was electoral poison months ago but they were too timid and like Portillo it will be fun to see which ones can’t even take part in the Leadership Challenge and get the boot on election night.

            “I’ll turn it around for the Party Conference” was Brown’s rallying call and desperate plea to the backbenchers just after the coup attempt.

            A turn for the worse may not be what backbench MPs had in mind.

        • 57
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          Or a sign as above the entrance to Dante’s Inferno

          ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE

        • 61
          The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

          Reminds of a lew Grade quote after a film he produced bombed
          It was called ” Raise the Titanic”
          he said
          “It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic”
          McMental is a world class spunker of other peoples money
          Maybe he should go into show biz when he finds himself unemployed in a few weeks time.
          Go on Gordon
          fuck off to hollywood and dazzle them with your charisma
          You could be the next Simon Cowell

        • 169
          More Anonymous says:

          Gordon should bless the layber parteh and all who sail in her (and all who cling desperately onto her). That should sink it.

        • 215
          Susie says:

          This is the jingle they wrote for Jim Callaghan (not) in 1977.

          http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2006/05/dowie/John_Dowie_-_Jim_Callaghan.mp3

          I remembered this ep sounding the death knell of the last Labour gov… how we laughed.

      • 23
        Adolf says:

        Cross ? I think you will find that Gordon prefers a Swastika

        http://cloggie.org/proggold/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gordon-brown_swastika.jpg

      • 28
        Lil Olmey says:

        There must have bee a hole in Obamha’s Marigolds.

      • 42
        Sir William Waad says:

        I konw! He’s been reduced to winning a Nobel prize!

        He’s still just a windbag, though.

      • 53
        Dick Scratcher says:

        High five surely?

      • 67
        Hussein Obama says:

        Obama has been on a downward Spiral since meeting Jonah.

        Lost the Olympic bid because a country at war can not be given a symbol of peace.
        Gang warfare breaks out in his home town.
        His war in afghanistan comes off the rails.
        Then he is awarded a prize for peace that makes him look stupid.

        • 86
          Comment says:

          Applause

        • 88
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          X-Factor has more credibility than the Nobel prizes these days.

          • Obama is a Twat says:

            At least we get to choose the X-Factor winner unlike Nu Liebour under McGay and Fondelbum who couldn’t get a vote between them.

        • 134
          markedman says:

          ‘A country at war can not be given a symbol of peace’

          How did London get the Olympics then?

          • Hussein Obama says:

            Makes one wonder doesn’t it? But Peace is what the Olympics are supposed to be about. One of the voting committee told sky that as America was at war their bid would fail. Perhaps the difference is that the USA is officially at war while the UK is just lending a helping hand.

            Olympic Movement promotes peace worldwide

          • More Anonymous says:

            Probably the Olympic Committee mistook the getting-out-of-Afghanistan noises that McGurgle was making around the time of becoming Dear Leader for a real intention. An easy mistake, especially when you have lots of other people’s money to play with yourself.

          • Anonymous says:

            One of the committee members apparently pressed the wrong voting button.

          • Brown envelopes says:

            Look up London Olympics 2012 IOC bribes, should be quite a few articles to chew through how London’s crooked bid was “won”.

        • 226
          Anonymous says:

          errr how did we get the olympics then since we are at war as well ?

    • 84
      Norman Tebbit says:

      VOTE UKIP

    • 171
      Ben who? says:

      Ben Bradshaw is in the shit, again.

      I fail to see how a big or a little government has anything to do with a Health Service anyway. Doctors do Health politicians do government.

      Now Ben Bradshaw uses Twitter for personal attack on Cameron by using Tory leader’s dead son Ivan to make point about NHS

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219318/Now-Ben-Bradshaw-uses-Twitter-personal-attack-Cameron.html#ixzz0TX1VBhQw

    • 182
      red mist says:

      These relaunches are a bit like buses. Just when you’ve up all hope, another 10 turn up all at once.

    • 208
      Susie says:

      O/T but very important! Please sign this petition to back President Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic’s brave stand against the Lisbon Treaty:

      http://www.petitiononline.com/sptklaus/petition.html

      Let’s get a MILLION signatures.

      • 230
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        hi Susie
        I applaud you for putting that link up and those who sign it. Your mind and heart is in the right place, for sure.
        I will never respect the legality of The Lisbon Con one way or another and there fore it is mute and moot, IMO.
        If any of the three ‘main parties’ make their pledge to have a referendum, immediately, on the issue of ‘in or out’ – I will vote for them. Why? Because party politics means nothing withour sovereignty.
        I will vote UKIP to hopefully return this nation to democratic, domestic party politics. By voting UKIP I will be supporting the notion of democracy in future.
        Like wise, I don’t care who is the EU President. I won’t recognise the Post.

      • 231
        RobC says:

        Just signed – thanks for the pointer.

  2. 2
    Laney says:

    That Gordon is crazy in the coconut!

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    Not first

  4. 4
    Laney says:

    And there are 213 sexy places, not 212, because I bet they haven’t included my bedroom!

  5. 5
    going mental says:

    the graph also shows that the labour con was the longest

    • 13
      Droopy Drawers says:

      Not wishing to spoil the party, but the trend at the end of Labours conference was EXACTLY the same as the Tory one – for each party on the day of the Leaders speech support dropped, then rose the day after. In Labours case it fell away – we haven’t seen the Tory result yet.
      Does that mean Cameron is a Jonah?? Don’t think so.

      • 33
        Anonymous says:

        Dont be so sure.
        Blair2.0

      • 62
        Andrew K says:

        I think you will find that McDoom gave his speech before the end of his conference, and the downturn was after that.

        Cameron gave his at the end, and the upturn was after that.

  6. 6
    Anonymous says:

    gordon says that things are gonna get better now and not as bad as the tories are saying.

    which mental institution will gordon be going to on may 7th? 2010

    • 12
      Reg511 says:

      I particularly liked his new word- ‘Upgrowth’

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html

      Labour are just talking to us like Children

      • 24
        Anonymous says:

        Its Newspeak. Try to doubleunthink what you just said.

        • 60
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          As in 0% upgrowth?

        • 195
          Hugh Bristic says:

          This must have been the most limp wristed interview any newspaper has conducted of any prime minister. Did neither of the interviewers ask him how he plans to pay back the debt or avoid rampant inflation?
          The Telegraph has morphed into a mouthpiece for 10 Downing Street

      • 66
        The word from the fool in Downing St says:

        Yes I noticed the new word for Labour – “upgrowth”.

        Wow – the only thing that will describe are the flowers on his political grave,although they will doubtless wither the moment they are planted!

        And to think – the clown was allowed to speak to the Telegraph yesterday,while trussed up in his straitjacket and reckons there are no hard times ahead!

        Staggering – this is proof that the lunatic needs the injection and the midnight ambulance out of Downing St – get this monster out of our lives,the grotty fraudulent sack of crap.

      • 132
        simon r says:

        The only time Brown experiences ‘upgrowth’ is when he looks at pictures of Obama

    • 21
      Anonymous says:

      Harvard.

    • 29
      Harriets Rabbit says:

      I’m certainly buying shares in the developers of prozac. It’s doing a grand job of cheering up the one eyed scottish idiot, apparantley all is well with the economy now and happy times ahead!

      Nurse, more Prozac

      • 64
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Unfortunately, Prozac is now off patent. find a cutt-price indian Pharma company and invest in that.

    • 56
      Dick Scratcher says:

      House of Lords.

    • 58
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Whichever way you look at it 44% to 27% is a pretty good 17 point gap at this stage. Makes last weeks YouGov/Sky poll look wacky. In most opinion polls the gap appears pretty constant at around the 12 – 14 point mark. GB will be study the figures and start testing focus groups right now to determine when to visit the queen and your right he will ride this out for as long as he can hoping that some real green shoots appear. God help us in the interim!

      • 184
        More Anonymous says:

        Yep, essentially McGorgon is looking for that dead cat bounce from the tractor statistic proxy called average house price. The cat twitches, but none know when it will bounce, even tho for maximum wow Mandelslime knows it needs to be spring 2010. He may tho give McGorgon the finger before then – but would the cuckoo perform?

  7. 7
    Death spiral says:

    He may be Labour’s Jonah but Boy George is the Tory’s.

    Already George’s pension figures are unravelling into a spiral of death.

    The Tory’s do not need headlines like that

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/09/george-osborne-budget-deficit

    • 9
      Anonymous says:

      its only thr guardian though so i wouldnt worry about it

    • 19
      Reg511 says:

      ‘George’s pension figures are unravelling into a spiral of death’

      Let’s just ignore Browns legacy and hope it goes away shall we, ah! one of the 27%, it all becomes clearer

    • 20
      Inglorious Basterd says:

      What the swinging fuck does £3 billion matter here or there when we are at least £180 billion overdrawn this current year.

      • 68
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Yup – merely a rounding error in the scheme of things.

      • 187
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        Quite, a week’s worth of borrowing in Brown World. But, then, the Guardian might have a good accountant but their figures never seem to add up.

    • 39
      Sir William Waad says:

      It’s better than Brown/Darling’s policy of all holding hands in a circle, shutting our eyes and wishing very hard.

    • 52
      Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

      It does not take a genius to work out that no opposition politician can work out accurate public spending projections until they are in govt and get access to the treasury’s actual figures.

      Whether the saving is 10 or 13 billion is not what matters. In reality it will be neither number.

      What matters is that plans are made now to cut the deficit.

      • 62
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Just hand out 800,000 P45s to the superannuated plodders in the public sector. Simple eh?

      • 103
        Captain Black says:

        What makes you think the Treasury can work out accurate spending projections?

      • 122
        MB. says:

        “It does not take a genius to work out that no opposition politician can work out accurate public spending projections until they are in govt and get access to the treasury’s actual figures.”

        I would not be surprised if they find that things are a hell of a lot worse than has been admitted so far (and that is bad enough).

        • 152
          Seprendo says:

          they got 3 new abacuses (or would that be abaci?) last week

        • 222
          Susie says:

          I’ve heard rumours from reliable sources (big bank stress tests) that they are a lot worse, so bad that they’re being kept well under wraps

    • 69
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      We are talking the Guardian here hardly an objective view and even though they quote a think tank that to is hardly a ringing endorsement. The figures are important and sure to get scrutinised in the coming days but the premise appears to have been sounded out and got a thumbs up. Calculated risk on the part of the tories and it appears it work out OK. Moreover the electorate will know who made this necessary in the first place McDoom.

      • 173
        Yard Arm says:

        To misplace three billion might be construed a misfortune.

        To piss away one hundred and seventy five billion is proof of utter cock trumpetry.

    • 251
      Charlie Whelan ate my hampster says:

      Only around 100 people read the Guardian. They may be the people who run the BBC and the Quangos, and the people who right now think they run the country, but it’s dawning on the body politic at long last that these people have no idea what the ferk they are on about, and never did -m they just ‘read from the script’

      One of the first things for the incoming Govt to do is to ensure there there is a website for all public sector appointments (when they start recruiting again) and that they are not just advertised in the Guardian – in fact that they are not, period, advertised in the Guardian. This pernicious propaganda organism which exists ont he proceeds of pulbic sector job ads and which has for so long infected public life must finally be strangled; and I write as one who back in the 60s admired the paper enormously (and bought it too)

  8. 11
    Robin Hoodie says:

    Gordon knows best, because he’s worth it!

    He is the Gift that keeps giving! Message for Gordon. “Don’t change a thing”.

    No matter what the Rogue Polls say. We all love you.

    Any chance you could start up another War? You don’t have to pay dead Servicemen do you? Cheap at half the price.

    • 71
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Keep the Geriatric Wards as HAI laboratories as well. That’ll thin out the usless, unproductive parasites.

      • 75
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        “You won’t get the chance to grow old under a Labour government.” But at least you won’t have to turn out the lights – Labour will do that for you.

        • 248
          Father Jack says:

          They sure will when the old power stations are shut down and we find out that they haven’t planned for new ones in time.

  9. 14
    Dack Blog says:

    That’s good news for the Tories, considering the tone of Dave’s speech. Though I thought Clegg’s was the most impressive overall. Still – I’ll be voting for neither. Nor Brown, obviously.

    • 26
      Unsworth says:

      Clegg may have been impressive, but let’s get real here. He’s got not chance of forming any government, ever. So this is, at best, a piece of positioning. Frankly I was unimpressed. He was trying too hard and obviously so.

      • 35
        Dack Blog says:

        That’s obvious. Responses are subjective, but than I have no particluar party bias. Brown’s desperate bluster, Dave’s weak-chinned sincerity – that’s how they came across to me.

      • 137
        simon r says:

        Clegg’s ‘Why I want to be Prime Minister’ speech was hilarious.

        Yeah mate, I’d like to be an astronaut, but that isn’t gonna happen either.

  10. 15
    This little piggy wat smashed the market says:

    What happens when the public learn of Osborne’s 3bn phuck up ;-) he he he heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • 18
      Dack Blog says:

      I doubt that will make much difference to a public who think they’re all incompetent liars.

      • 31
        Unsworth says:

        And the public have every reason to believe Labour are incompetent, so they ‘know’ this to be the case. They don’t actually ‘know’ that the Conservatives are incompetent – although they might suspect it. But they certainly ‘believe’ that all politicians are liars.

        • 38
          Dack Blog says:

          I’d find it hard to believe in competence where I can’t believe in sincerity.

          • Mongrel says:

            Little piggy obviously forgot about the gold sell off or PFI. These were real £3b plus “Phuck ups”, not debatable forecasting assumptions.

          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            Bismark was supremely competent but took insincerity to new world highs. which is why that, if you can fake sincerity, the world is your oyster, Mandelson is a perfect contemporary example.

          • Unsworth says:

            You might do, but one should never confuse the two attributes. It’s perfectly possible to be one without the other. Competence is a measure of skill, sincerity is a measure of integrity.

    • 36
      Kevin says:

      I think you will find that the Guardian have got it wrong. Basing their figures on 2009 GDP which is not what the Tories based their’s on, as the Penion thing doesn’t kick in for a few years.

    • 77
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      The fuck up you moron is the 170 billion deficit brought about by Brown FFS get with the program. Its mind blowing how Nulabour can brainwash so many. Going back to Clinton years its the “Economy Stupid” Nulabour in charge and therefore to blame regardless. Add to that MP’s expenses etc and it is going to be a bloodbath and they know it.

    • 78
      Alex says:

      Osborne’s 3bn phuck up ? What, compared to Brown’s 180bn phuck up?

    • 110
      Kevin says:

      I think you will find it has been Guardian 3bn phuck up basing their figures on 2009 GDP when in fact Osaborne has not.

  11. 16
    Inglorious Basterd says:

    Harold Wilson famously stated that a week in politics is a long time.

    So 7 months must be like an eternity. If the country was really in love with the tories they should be in their 50% so sod all any of the other parties can do to form a coalition.

    Brown is without doubt the biggest asset the tories have got and despite Brown’s yellow brick road interview in todays Telegraph as winter nights draw in, summer is but a distant memory more gloomy news will unfold, postal strike, double dip recesion, falling pound, Vauxhall, rising unemployment and the Chrismas Credit card statements due in Jan 2010.

    It’s a race against time and time is something Brown is fast running out of together with his options.

    • 34
      Anonymous says:

      DEJA VU AGAIN? the 1979 general election

      Douglas Alexander says about the tories they are “untested” and “outside the mainstream.” (spectator interview)

      James Callaghan in 1979 said, “the conservatives are too big a gamble to take”

      In 1979 The Conservative campaign was focused on gaining support from traditional Labour voters who had never voted Conservative before, first-time voters and people who had voted Liberal in 1974. Mrs. Thatcher’s advisers, Gordon Reece and Timothy Bell, co-ordinated their presentation with the editor of The Sun, Larry Lamb. The Sun printed a series of articles by disillusioned former Labour ministers (Reginald Prentice, Richard Marsh, Lord George-Brown, Alfred Robens and Lord Chalfont) detailing why they had switched their support to Mrs Thatcher. She explicitly asked Labour voters for her support when she launched her campaign in Cardiff, claiming that Labour was now extreme. An analysis of the election claimed that the Conservatives gained an 11% swing among the skilled working-class (the C2s) and a 9% swing amongst the unskilled working class (the C1s).

      1979 general election outcome
      voted 31.2m labour 11.5m(36.9%) Conservative 13.7m(43.9%)

      2005 general election outcome( the vote blair get brown election)
      voted 27m labour 9.6m(36.9%) Conservative 8.7m(34%)

      Very Interesting, so what does it tell us abour Dave’s chances in 2010? Anything?

      • 76
        And in the end.... says:

        ALL voters want Brown out,no matter what their party voting record – he is the most detested person ever to enter politics – totally and utterly hated.

        If you don’t believe me,ask people on the train,bus and in shops in the coming week about BROWN,not labour,but about BROWN – he is universally hated.

        If Labour replaced him next week with an Alan Johnson (NOT Hitler Balls),they may just scrape through to 2nd place and live to tell the tale.

        Otherwise the patient that is the Labour Party will not live through any number of heart and lung transplants – it is terminally finished with Brown.

        • 89
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          He is hated in Iceland.

          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            Anywhere outside Hoonland he’s not hated?

          • Captain Black says:

            ..and they never really liked him in Bejam…

          • Mrs Broon (No Relation) says:

            The pity is that he is not hated in Kirkcaldy and Cardenden etc. Unfortunately the level of political knowledge around there would astound you, they still think they are voting for Old Labour!

          • @Mrs Broon (No Relation)

            “they still think they are voting for Old Labour!”, well they ARE! NuLabour = Old Labour Socialism + Marketing, Blair could pull the marketing bit off, Brown cannot. Blair jumped at just the right time when it was obvious the damage socialism was doing to the country.

          • Tony Blair says:

            @Anti Citizen One: “Socialism?” Haha. Even I wasn’t under that illusion (read: delusion.) “Socialite” maybe.

        • 112
          Dack Blog says:

          Brown won’t go. He’s deluded. He’d never sacrifice what he creepily refers to as ‘The Work’ for the good of the country. Unless it’s a double bluff and he believes that Dave could do a better job, so he’s willing to sacrifice himself and the party. Nah, he’s deluded.

        • 253
          You Couldn't Make It Up says:

          Sadly we went through this almost two generations ago – Labour support when Foot led the party dipped to the upper 20%s and that is how the ‘New Labour’ succubus managed to infiltrate and take control of the party. That tight-knit group smarmed a few Old Labour types like Brown and Prescott, while hijacking the upper echelons of what used to be a Socialist party. They then played on the Northern and working class pain which was a necessary consequence of Thatcher’s facing down ofg the Unions, and we allknwo the consequences.

          I’m afraid history could easily repeat itself – it will be easy for some ideological faction to take over the ashes of the destroyed Labour party and mould it into their own creature, just as the Blair/Mandeldson/Gould faction did.

          • You Couldn't Make It Up says:

            PS The fact that Alan Johnson is seen as the most viable successor says it all really

    • 70
      Dick Scratcher says:

      The “Lord Snooty” issue is still massive, but Liebour seem reluctant to use it…yet. They have an open goal.

      • 81
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        What, like Crewe? Where the electorate voted for a toff who’d done something with his life over a well-connected Labour hippy apparachik? BRING IT ON!!

        • 100
          Dick Scratcher says:

          Each party’s & all media focus groups indicate it is an important (and growing) issue. Crewe was a different situation with many Liebour toffs criticising the tactic in the media.

          There’s three aspects of the shadow cabinet & advisor composition: 1. Eton 2. other independent school education 3. Millionaires. Not good for the tories.

          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            How does the composition of the Labour front bench compare? Hattie’s family is not short of a bob or two. Mandelson was born with a golden spoon in his mouth, as were the Milibands. Posturing over privilege especially with the Sun pimping for Dave, will be counterproductive to say the least.

          • One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

            I think most of the cabinet went to public school wheras the same cannot be said of most of the shadow cabinet. Just another bullshit story stoked up by labour to cover their own starts in life before kicking away the ladders behind them.

          • KatieL says:

            “I think most of the cabinet went to public school ”

            Actually it’s only 8 out of 23. That’s a lot higher than the national average tho…

      • 97
        Comment says:

        Reluctant to use it, you oaf, that strange Lady Boy Cooper had little else to say on QT, when Boris met Dave and the campaign may go on for 7 months, 7 months of insincere jealousy, reluctant to use it FFS

        • 130
          Dick Scratcher says:

          I am sure that if the Leader of the Opposition, the Shadow Chancellor & the Mayor of London and their many advisors ALL came from Pontefract WMC you would have an opinion. The Tories need to sort this out quick.

      • 255
        You Couldn't Make It Up says:

        Have you only just returned to this country Dick? Where were you, Outer Mongolia?

  12. 22
    Mongrel says:

    Received wisdom among the political classes seems to be that the Conservatives are vulnerable on Europe, with any strong Eurosceptics needing to be muzzled to preserve the appearance of unity. But this seems to be driven by Labour and LibDem spin rather than the facts: the British population is extremely hostile to the Lisbon constitution, and not great fans of the EU as a whole. It would certainly explain the LibDems’ continued poor showing at the polls at a time when Labour is a bust flush and a lot of people are still not sure about Dave.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/6210622/Voters-demand-EU-referendum-from-David-Cameron.html

  13. 27
    Road_Hog says:

    Looks good for the Conservatives at the moment, when Call Me Dave is caught out in the open on the Lisbon Treaty if the Czechs ratify it, he’ll take a hammering in the polls as he tries to dodge his way out of a concrete offering on what he will do.

  14. 32
    Gordon is a GayLord says:

    And the MOD has just suspended all TA training for 6 months to save £20m.

    All the Weekend Warriors are now Redundant! Nearly 10,000 Folk.

    Still the Green Shoots are sprouting!

    Dead Soldiers cost Nothing!!

    • 65
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Get the MOD Carpet Dwellers in khaki and ship them out.

      • 233
        Anonymous says:

        I wonder if any civilian who is employed by the MOD is a reservist? That would be good in time of war.

    • 83
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Send cyclops to Afghanistan in Khakis with a big red cross on his back.

    • 96
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      TA soldiers get paid for training, AND they’ve served in Afghanistan and Iraq. SO MUCH FOR MORE SUPPORT FOR OUR TROOPS. What it will do is increase the number of families on benefits, proving that the present system is working to support hard-working families and vastly improving the morale of the TA. My dogs leave better plans than Labours’ in the yard first thing every morning. anybody voting for Labour next May has lost the will to live.

  15. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Throw him off the train – NOW !!

  16. 41
    Geordie Scoot says:

    O/T, but being a politics freak and seriously in need of a life, I watched the re-run of the 1959 general election broadcast on the Parliament Channel yesterday. Choicest moments: -

    Lord Hailsham – “Labour have been shown up by their financial irresponsibility”;
    Lord Hailsham – “This will be the end of socialism..”
    Ludovic Kenneday – “by the next election the Liberals will have replaced Labour as the main party of opposition”

    But, perhaps most prescient:

    BBC interviewer with very plummy accent to Jeremy Thorpe who had just taken North Devon off the Tory incumbent, against the trend: “You are a batchelor… and I hope you don’t mind me saying that you ran a very gay campaign. Do you think the voters of North Devon responded well to your gaiety?”

    All in all a delight – Richard Dimbleby masterful, Robert Butler endearingly quirky, Robert Mackenzie generally anti-Tory and a bit of a pain, everyone smoking like chimneys.

    • 90
      Dick Scratcher says:

      Robin Day used to shoot up at the back of the studio.

    • 213
      Even More Anonymous says:

      It should have been the end of socialism, but the tories let them grow like the monster in the New Yorks sewers by their own behaviour: Profumo and Powell; then Grocer Heath’s patricianism which put troops into NI and was seen as blatantly supporting injustices in the status quo. Thatcher could have buried it too, but the libertarian tendencies of Whitelaw, Heseltine and others allowed the parliamentarian cohort of estate agents, suburban yobos and Tebbit to crow too hard too often about how brilliant they were – hardly surprising that Major could make the crass remark “if it’s not hurting, it’s not working”, which promptly let the socialists back in. Cameron knows all this; whether he can do much about tories who don’t will determine whether the socialists get another go.

      I always vote to get the incumbents out. Five years is enough for any party to be incumbenting about with things they don’t understand.

      • 234
        Susie says:

        Ted Heath was a grammar school boy (not part of the patrician landed gentry Tory set at all) and when the troops first went into NI it was to protect Catholics against Protestant mob rule… every weekend a Catholic demonstration for civil rights which would be attacked — then Bloody Sunday happened, the rise of the IRA and things changed.

  17. 43
    Prezza says:

    Figures TEN a fookin’ PENNY!

  18. 45
    Mary Poppins says:

    You Labour twats need to understand that actions speak louder than words – well we have just had 12 years or so of the most awful; incompetent and stupid crazy effin pathetic rubbish ‘government’ ever – my god they have even outdone Robert Mugabe- plus here is a fact or three that you need to understand.

    Without exception every Labour government that there has ever been has ended in economic melt down and each and every time the Conservatives have repaired the damage caused by Labour – so why on earth would you support Labour???

    Only one reason you are a Marxist!!

    A spoon full of sugar helps the bitter medicine go down………

  19. 72
    r supward says:

    ” He is a Jonah for the Labour Party and the country…”
    so its not always bad news then !!

  20. 80
    Inglorious Basterd says:

    Have you ever been asked who you intend to vote for?

    I haven’t and if someone did ask, being a mischievous little imp rather than tell them to fuck off and mind their own business I would probably tell the exact opposite of my voting intention.

    Reverse psychology and all that so by the same logic Labour is now leading in the ‘real’ polls by a large margin and no one will turn out to vote for them because they’ve got it in the bag. People who haven’t made up their mind or arec fearful of a large majority will turn out to vote Tory to stop Labour winning by a landslide.

    One cancels that other out and we end up with the same we started with.

    • 95
      Dick Scratcher says:

      It used to be ‘shy tories’, now it’s ‘fuck off you Huhne tories’.

      • 101
        Inglorious Basterd says:

        I’m trying to have a serious discussion on the voting intention of electric eels and the best you can come up with is “fuck off you Huhne tories”.

        Gordon Brown is strategically planning the date of the next election from the bunker and has just phoned to ask what day of the week Maunday Thursday will fall next year.

        • 117
          Dack Blog says:

          They don’t come knocking on my door anymore. I say I’m undecided, invite them in, offer them tea and biscuits and have a serious converation with them. After a while they’re wriggling to get away and thinking bad thoughts of the Bates Motel. I’m blacklisted. Works with the witnesses too.

    • 123
      Comment says:

      Missed Dave’s speech, in Hospital, Ambulance took me home yesterday and I asked the female Medic if I had missed anything

      The lady told me how much Dave’s suit had cost, ‘Samantha’s dress was only 80 quid, and we are all going to have to vote Tory now, and things are going to get pretty grim’

      Closest I can get to a straw poll

      Amazing how efficient reprogramming can be

    • 235
      Anonymous says:

      IngloriousBasterd.
      I was just asked who I would vote for at the door. It was a Liberal Democrat.
      It’s easier just to say yes after listening to the pitch; at least she’ill go away happy for wearing out her shoes.

  21. 91
    Lizzie says:

    Looking good……………but not for Brown Clown!

  22. 98
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Every year it always greatly amuses and pleases me when at the end of the LibDim party conference, for all the hot air and reverential fantasy talk of finally achieving government that they emit over the preceding days, their poll figures always go down. And then true to form, the day after the LibDim conference finishes the media luvies drag out Vince Cable, or similar, to pontificate at length on a subject they seem to understand to the depth of the title at best. You could not make it up.

  23. 99
    Mary Poppins says:

    I knew Brown was a wrong ‘un about 11 years ago when he invited ‘Red’ Dawn Primerolo to join his team – she is an unrepentant Marxist – A hard line Commie.

  24. 108
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Meanwhile life goes on in NuLabour LaLa land

    “Gordon Brown has insisted the UK economy is set to recover far quicker than expected despite Tory “pessimism”. The Prime Minister delivered an optimistic prediction for strong growth over the next 12 months, saying it was “simply not true” that tough times are ahead.”

    Deluded or what?

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091010/tuk-brown-economy-will-bounce-back-dba1618.html

    • 216

      Meanwhile…

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8298549.stm


      Shock rise in factory gate prices
      A lorry leaving an industrial plant
      Factory gate prices have gone against the trend of falling inflation

      The prices of goods leaving UK factories rose for the first time in five months in September, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.

      “Factory gate” prices in September were up 0.5% from a year ago, and climbed 0.4% from August. Analysts had expected a year-on-year fall of 0.1%.

      Most sectors contributed to the rises, the official figures showed.

  25. 115
    NB says:

    Nice one Guido. But I’m afraid that individual polls have a margin for error of 5% (in reality, 3% in theory) so the fluctuations in fact are random noise. Have a look at ukpollingreport.co.uk for a serious analysis.

    • 159
      yacult says:

      So the poll that showed Labour was ‘streaking’ to a 31% high was a load of bollocks too?

      About time we had a real poll, ie an election.

  26. 118
    Inglorious Basterd says:

    Two predictions:

    1) Labour will let the dust settle on the post-conferance polls to detect any obvious trend.

    2) Labour will wait and see how Brown preforms in the Commons during forthcoming PMQ’s.

    If both negative, Labour will dump Brown by end of October.

    3) My other prediction is tonight’s 6 winning lotto numbers: 44, 45, 46, 47, 48 & 49, honest.

    • 136
      Dick Scratcher says:

      You’re talking balls again.

    • 197
      Rip Van Winkle says:

      Labour will wait and see how Brown performs….?

      Fucking hell, two facts: -

      1) If the Labour Party hasn’t realised that this prat is a complete whitewash, they’re thicker than even I thought, and

      2) He’ll perform just as badly ‘cos he’s f’ing uselsss

      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

      Albert Einstein

      • 257
        Samantha says:

        Voting Labour certainly comes into this category

        I found it hard to forgive friends who voted for them in 1997.
        Anyone who does it this time round needs the men in white coats
        In fact they deserved them last time round

  27. 120
    jgm2 says:

    27%?

    27% of the UK population think Blair/Brown have done a fucking terrific job this past 12 years and deserve re-election?

    Over one quarter of the voting population are mentally ill or masochists?

    Jesus.

    • 128
      One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

      “Over one quarter of the voting population are mentally ill or masochists?”

      Both!

    • 135
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Just lost the will to live after being threatened with having to work for a living. that’s chavs, Gay and Lesbian outreach workers and 3/4 of the safety elfs.

    • 138
      Dick Scratcher says:

      Is democracy worth fighting for?

    • 139
      Stu says:

      Thick as pigshit is the explanation.

    • 151
      Labour loves poverty, not the poor says:

      Voting Labour is like supporting a football team in some households. It’s this retarded battered wife syndrome that is going to be the biggest challenge.

      • 164
        canny lad says:

        Sounds like the Magpies. They’ve been blagging bucket loads of cash from their loyal fans for decades to very little effect, except to keep the executives in flash cars and bling.

        How very New Labour.

        • 172
          Geordie Boy says:

          Not true. We won the InterToto cup one year. Ant and Dec were at the match the other week. I’m quite prepared to pay my Platinum Club subscription to provide free seats for those Geordie icons.

    • 153
      Engineer says:

      Britain tends to be a very conservative (small ‘c’) nation. The South-East has always been predominantly blue, and the Midlands and North, formerly the industrial heartlands, predominantly red. For that to change (and it’s not impossible) would take a generation or two.

      • 193
        Pete says:

        It has just had a generation and it *has* changed…

        • 238
          W. Mitty-Rand says:

          I’m voting Labour at the next election. Definately, and honestly.
          Since returning from the UK mission to the moon in 1967 I have always voted Labour and one day I knew there would be a Labour leader who would saave this beautiful world as I looked upon it from afar.

  28. 127
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Notice that the BBC have stopped updating their poll tracker, I wonder why?

  29. 131
    The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    When are the smug millionaire lefty journos and talking heads, hate filled trots, impotent troughing Union fat cats, vile Labour spin merchants, and lobotomised Labour PLP drones going to answer Cameron’s question:

    What is so progressive about the British Government paying more in debt interest than it spends on edukashun? innit

    Labour always runs out of other people’s money, and unemployment always rises under a prolonged period of it’s mal-administration.
    Simple facts of life.

    Me chums let us hope the BBC and other biased left wing trash are successful in spinning Labour’s lies so they take a small working majority.
    Let the dire left wing ‘comedians’, BBC trots, union troughers, Lord White and Baronness Toynbee explain why the Labour Government is laying off so many front line staff, and hurting so many hard working families.

    • 147
      Engineer says:

      The trouble is that Labour, if they won the next election, probably wouldn’t lay off many public servants. Brown has said he wants to reduce the deficit in four years, in other words, he wants to continue borrowing, though hopefully less, for four more years. So the National Debt will get bigger, and the cost of servicing that debt will rise, thus reducing the amount of GDP available to spend on public services, thus requiring more borrowing to make up the shortfall…..

      • 160
        The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

        Thats my point, borrowing cant continue at anywhere near the current level.

        Tax revenues might well start rising quite sharply next year, but in terms of the structural deficit, it’ll be a drop in the proverbial.

        Do they lay off front line staff, or go begging to the IMF?

        • 179
          Engineer says:

          The end result would be the same, just a different route to get there.

          If by ‘front-line staff’ we mean the usually-quote nurses and teachers, it’s by no means certain that lay-offs are required. If by ‘front-line staff’ we mean the small army of data-gatherers, consultants and target-monitorers, then maybe there is scope for some reduction. Better that was by natural wastage and recruitment freeze, since this removes most of the venom from the Union snakes; I gained the impression from George Osborne’s speech that that was the approach the Conservatives were intending.

          • Susie says:

            Labour will never do a recruitment freeze. Their propaganda rag the Guardian would fold.

            And imagine if all the sacked data gatherers published the true state of affairs? Unison goes on strike? I hope so, I hope so very much.

      • 200
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        If Brown wins, he wouldn’t be running the country, the IMF would.

        And, believe me, as a public servant you’d rather have a Thatcher Government at full throttle than an IMF led one.

        The public sector is a dead duck. Period.

        • 242
          Susie says:

          Agreed. Rather have an elected bastard, than an unelected committee of, wait for it… banker bastards running the country.

          It would be the ultimate irony for Labour supporters.

    • 150
      Anonymous says:

      For all you Labour supporters there was a council by-election in Penrith on thursday. The results, in order, as percentages.
      Lib Dem 51.6
      Con 20.9
      Beahenpea 13.6
      Ind 7.7
      Lab 3.5
      Green 2.4

      • 177
        charlie the chancer says:

        150 They will be sorry they let the Libdums loose running the council,we have a Liebour/Libdum, the damage they have done to the libraries is mindblowing,one “friends of xxx Library” sold off the library furniture because they had been told it was closing,we now have a u turn and it’s now not closing,chaos theory in it’s true form.

      • 228
        Evan Mor Anonymous says:

        Charlie, they do that sort of thing in Penrith because when the libdems put in pedestrian precincts and bollards, it makes them feel modern like the rest of the country. Wrong of course about that – just takes the character out of another English market town, fucking up the place and replacing it with “cultural heritage”. Note the Lab vote barely exceeds the Greens; Green is seen as iffily modern – modernity fine for townies, but country folk have decent and proper ways of doing things mainly farming which townies couldn’t possibly understand.

        • 243
          Susie says:

          Sigh… tell me about it… Cambridge City Council is Liberal.

          They’ve made the city center a no-go area apart from the huge buses which swing around the narrow medieval streets doing 30 mph. The outskirts are a permanent traffic jam caused by (empty) bus lanes… oh and they lost £9 million public money to Iceland last year.

          Enjoy the ride Penrith.

  30. 133
    Obama is a Twat says:

    The Guardian is a toilet of a paper, mostly read by public sector scum and men who want to make it legal to bugger 14 year old boys.

    • 142
      Stu says:

      In our house the guardian is toilet paper. On second thoughts my arse deserves better like the labour party manifesto.

    • 145
      The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

      If the Tories take power surely they will place all public sector non jobs online?

      The taxpayer keeps Toynbee in her Italian villa, the Guardian must be smashed forthwith!

      And I an unanimous in that

    • 180
      Ratsniffer says:

      You’d wipe your arse on that rag? That means you’d have to buy it first. I woudn’t use it as arse fodder even if it was given away free.

  31. 140
    DeBono-chum says:

    I tink that Gordon Cameron Brown is right up there, with da stars.

    • 144
      DeBono-chum says:

      Dont forget to vote for
      John and Edward – XFACTOR
      Tonight ITV1

      Good irish lads

      B’Jesu

      • 198
        Sod 'em all says:

        That’s a spin-off from “Britain’s Got Talent” isn’t it? Next year they’re re-titling it (more accurately) as “Britain’s Got Fuck All.”

  32. 146
    Anonymous says:

    All Labour have to do is get rid of the Gorgon and they will be back in the fight.

  33. 158
    jgm2 says:

    Poland have ratified the EU Constitution.

    That’s torn it.

  34. 176
    Polska says:

    Polish president signs EU treaty

    (AFP) – 48 minutes ago

    WARSAW — Poland’s President Lech Kaczynski signed the European Union’s reforming Lisbon Treaty in a ceremony on Saturday, leaving his eurosceptic Czech counterpart Vaclav Klaus as the only holdout.

    “The fact that the Irish people changed their minds meant the revival of the treaty, and there are no longer any obstacles to its ratification,” Kaczynski said before inking the text.

    “Today is a very important day in the history of Poland and the European Union,” he added.

    The Lisbon Treaty has to be approved by all 27 EU member states to come into force, possibly next year.

    The treaty aims to streamline the running of the EU, which has nearly doubled in size in the past five years as a swathe of ex-communist countries such as Poland have joined.

  35. 185
    • 191
      Four eyes in bed? says:

      Does he wear those f’ing stupid glasses to bed too?

    • 224
      I'll have some of that says:

      Why indeed? That CMD couldn’t have just told Bono to piss off, his presence was not required, tells you more than any lovely speech.

    • 236
      Ex-NME hack says:

      Perhaps because the luck will rub off? U2 took a long time break because no-one was at all convinced either by their attempt at rocking or their faux earnest religiosity. It only happened when they got in a producer who could do the comminuted hose-pipe orange juice trick with them. It’s been all production ever since. The parallel with politicians and manufacturer spin doctors is self-evident.

  36. 186
    Sod 'em all says:

    Mandy ain’t fucking stupid, Guido. He knows he can resurrect his party’s chances of victory at the Election by dumping Psycholops. The question is: is the Old Queen ruthless enough to shit on an old friend? The other question is: do bears shit in the woods?

  37. 189
    Sod 'em all says:

    “We’ll never have a proper democracy in this country until we start shooting a few people.” – Alf Garnett, 1972.

  38. 190
    The curse of fraudster Brown says:

    I was made redundant after 22 yrs in a global company for the first time ever.

    And the year – 2007,three months after the fraudulent b’stard Brown was UNELECTED to “power”.

    The curse of the biggest piece of crap.

    Just 2 minutes with a baseball bat and him – you would need to sweep his body matter up in a large bucket.

  39. 203
    Dick Scratcher says:

    Am I hearing things? Listening to the repeat of Any Questions -W Hague SUPPORTING the Nobel prize award to Bollock Um Bongo!!! Wibble.

    • 207
      Anonymous says:

      He may have to be dealing with him personally soon so he can’t exactly say it was ridiculous.

      • 211
        Dick Scratcher says:

        I think it will be the “lightweight” dealing Mr Pimp & the First Ho. Baldy will have to amuse Mrs Cliton.

  40. 205
    out there with the fairies says:

    1. Mandy will get rid off Gordy by Christmas; negates the embarassing specture of his leader having to take part in a TV debate.
    2. Grabbing all the media attention, there will be a long drawn out leadership contest til about FEB/MARCH.
    3. New leader = new manifesto; stealing all tory policies
    4. Mandy will be caretaker PM until election.

    • 214
      Dick Scratcher says:

      The serpent rises again.

    • 261
      Rufus Stone says:

      If Mandy becomes caretaker PM how can he answer PMQs? As a ‘Lord’ he is not allowed in the Commons, & he is not an elected MP.

      Oh, silly me. This is the Labour Party where these things are of little consequence.

  41. 225
    McGroom says:

    Any normal person would realise how they had completely failed and step aside.

    Brown’s insistance that he must “get on with the job” is further evidence that he is a few sheep short in the top paddock.

    The Labour party have no courage and decency left to remove this enemy of the state and call an election to save what is left of our country.

    Chumps, the lot of them

  42. 227
    Obama is a twat says:

    I see it’s starting, Gorgon has a problem with his only working eye, will this be the start of him having to ‘step down’? perhaps hanging on until just after Christmas giving Liebour, the BBC and the Guardian to get a new leader in then saying “we might as well wait until June for an election now anyway”

    Yet again the British public are being treated like idiots by the leftist scum.

  43. 247
    Phil says:

    Note also that the Conservatives rose at the same time as Labour dipped – his continued presence as Labour leader is worth a lot of votes to the Conservatives



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