Taking Offence: Satire and Offence
If you are in the Islington area tonight, Guido is chairing a discussion with Martin Rowson, leading cartoonist and author, Caspar Melville, editor of New Humanist, to discuss the impact of the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate.
More details here.














if anyone is offended top boy says:
FUCK OFF!
Fuc you!
are you a taffy?
I agree. I bloody buggering agree. I’ve tried to broaden the apeal of this twatting blog today by posting a number of (I hope) amusing little snippets in what I’m sure we can all agree is the somewhat humorous timbre of the language west of Oswestry. And do I get any thanks? Do I fuck as like. Just a barrage of insults and death threats via e-mail directed at my wife and numerous offspring.
the English language is the finest language in the world.
taffy.
And that goes for your sheep an’ all George!
I am missing the point here sir, could you enlighten me with a sample of the said humour. With a name like mine I am obviously interested in the language a little west of Oswestry.
You pompous Welsh Hoon
I’ve heard some cocks and twats are so oversensitive and politically correct they get nutjob lawyers to sue
George, I thought it was a good idea!
Did you hear the true story of a farmer from the ‘English’ side of the border? Was charged with shop lifting, but when the case came to court they had to get a translator in, as he hadn’t got any English, just Welsh. I think he was found not guilty, though it happened about 30 years ago, if my memory serves me.
My own Welsh is very limited. Though I can tell people my name and just about order some beer and some cheese in Wales. My nan was the last person in our family with any Welsh.
RU gay?
TaT, is Gay4Pay, it’s how he pays the bills, working as an “usher” in the gay cinema.
said the rimmer.
apparently Jeremy clarkson is not
New Statesman Senior Political Editor Mehdi Hasan in action
OH
absolutely charming chap
though your picture of Cherie Antoinette still is my fav.
Who the fuck is this kaffir chap, Yazid?
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If it ain’t fraud, someone needs to tell ‘em
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Dirty trick by the sounds of it… had it happen to me where a big company didn’t like my page so they reported it as having a virus so got it blocked by many people, dropped off google and my hosts in trouble with their network providers.
It got solved but the damage was done by then.
A fraudulent site? Surely they mean the HOC?
Lacking direction and beset by scandal, the flagship dance show symbolises the failings of the BBC.
Lacking direction and beset by scandal, the flagship dance show symbolises the failings of the BBC.
Lacking direction and beset by scandal, the flagship dance show symbolises the failings of the BBC.
Lacking direction and beset by scandal, the flagship dance show symbolises the failings of the BBC.
FUCK DA BBC
OFFENCE?
As being offended is the easiest way to close down debate since racist became old hat, then you can be sure that Offended will be the new smeared.
Any questions radio 4 now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/bbc_radio_four
You do realise of course, being genius and all, that being a ‘top’ boy has a well known meaning, or more accurately a defined ‘role’ in homosexualist slang?
Hope you’re not offended by me pointing that out. Innit.
There ought to be a law against taking offence.
Mr Fawkes is putting the case tonite
you calling me a limey?
good joke.
(in 1941)
now that’s cheeky
surely you mean “A fence”?
Shut it, Tart. See you on the 5th November? You bring the drain cleaner, I’ll arrange the Nigerian PCSO’s
Given your so close why not invite Tony Bliar.
FUCK OFF!
NO REFUND.
C’UNT.
If there’s any empty seats later get some traffic wardens in and they will entertain you I’m sure
Blair is protected 24/7 by bodyguards funded by the taxpayers at a reported cost
of £2 m/year .
£2m isn’t a surprise .But it is amazing that he still lives, considering that the guards
are armed .
What’s wrong with them ?
No suitable grassy knoll. Yet.
Ever Vigilant ..
Don’t think for one minute that scenario won’t already have crossed certain minds .. but like many others, those Protection Officers have wives, kids & mortgages to pay etc ..
So topping a turd like B’Liar just isn’t worth doing the Jail time for ..
But I’m willing to bet very few of them would dive in the way to stop a bullet meant for him .. or for McSnot either, for that matter ..
I swear I didn’t fire that shot.
Grassy x .
But it wasn’t me – I was in the seposit……sirry, depositary.
Is it to protect Blair or to protect other people from him?
Perhaps you could bring Rich and Mark along in the hope that they might learn just a little about cartooning from Rowson. Though they don’t need lessons in being offensive.
and you need no lessons in being boring.
ARSEHOLE!
*Neee-naaaa*
Evening, sir. I shall proceed towards Islington to monitor proceedings. Can’t be too careful these days, sir. Over
You’re filth!
Ooooo !!
I don’t understand the question , hun .
‘….the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate’ ??
I’ll pop along anyway x .
E x .
I was going to turn up but now I know you’re going I’m not going to bother.
OMG !!
Dont’t be like that , darlin . You scared I’ll out-thicko you ???
Anyway , don’t you like a mass debate now an then ??
E x .
you see, you can write decent posts when you try.
LOL tat , petal x .
I weren’t tryin .
I ain’t motivated no more an when I is , I’m tooo pissed to type straight .
So there .
E x .
Who takes offence? Must be the losing side
exactly.
Ar bless, picking on the weak – after they were fecking strong enough to mess our whole country up
Or either, if they’ve something to hide.
Nah. Bullies don’t like getting some back. Cowards.
are there refreshments?
FFS.
we are trying to have an intellectual debate here motherfucker and all your bothered about is free orange squash and biscuits.
you fucking bastard.
excuse me, but there’s nothing wrong or illegal about having a biscuit, is there????
shit, you could be right man
They’ve ordered Twiglets and Cream Soda, whatever that is.
fuck you you fucker.
I’ve got no cream soda left after the caption competition.
oh you fucking bastard.
Yeah, I see what you mean. My twiglet just snapped.
any toilets?
Fuck off.
I find people who take offence, very offensive
Repression leads to war. Be strong you weaklings and fight!
*Neee-naaaaa*
Yes, sir. I attempted to convey that feeling to the Telegraph but they proceeded to take offence, or shat themselves, and wouldn’t entertain my comment. Over.
I am a fat bastard, large BMW driving, white male small businessman from the West Midlands
The fact that people can insult me with impunity at every opportunity with no fear of retribution is a good thing.
I am on no-ones list of people to patronise or feel sorry for
stop whining you jive ass honky motherfucker.
How much more help do women need to progress in the workplace?
I am sure if the chimps at Dudley Zoo had had as much legislation and cash directed their way they would have done a better job than the female humans.
Maybe if more women took work seriously they may actually make some progress.
free knickers would help
Many women don’t take work seriously because they think that they are entitled to special treatment at work to make up for all the years of perceived (imaginary) male repression. It simply doesn’t occur to them that men have been exploited for centuries by other men as well as women. The few who do step up to the plate are to be commended because they indeed work as hard or even harder than the men to prove that they got there on their own merits and were not part of some quota.
you missed one. Even if he did stop whinging, how could you tell? (accentism)
You poor bastard. Imagine living in West Midlands. What a shite hole. What yer floggin? Used tyres probably.
I’m looking out the door of my used-tyre business and it doesn’t look too rosy from here.
Get invloved with the Russians they will buy all the ones punctured ones you can lay your hands on
I’m tired
Is trade flat, then?
No, flogging state of the art car plants to the Chinese.
Another industry created by Hard Labour.
Tread carefully
It’s a tyred old joke
B is for the Black Huntry
the PC term is chumpry – as approved by Lord M
O G****Gosh
Yougov:
Con: 44
Lab: 27
Lib: 17
http://www.yougov.co.uk/today/
Is that there average IQ
THEIR
Conts
44% is not good enough.
come back when the TORY SCUM have got 50%.
If there were another Conference tomorrow, the Tories would have no problem hitting 50%.
A Labour conference, that is.
well there has just been one dimwit and so your theory is shot to fuck innit.
you are such a moron phyllis.
have you got nice tits though?
The point was another one as the last one worked in the Tories favour. A joke titfer but above your head obviously. And you call me a dimwit.
yeah, but have you got nice tits?
Same health warning as usual Guido – dont’ take those “free speech” advocates at that place at face value; they want free speech for people like htem, not for people they don’t like. Ask them about Theo Van Gogh, Max Hardcore or holocaust deniers, see how they respond then. Hoons and chumps.
Sounds like they’re setting Guido up for censorship
max hardcore isn’t real
The growing use of the mock-offence in order to smear one’s opponent, more like. To give you a footie metaphor, It is akin to diving in the penalty box in order to fool the ref and be wrongly awarded a penalty and probably getting the innocent defender a red car. PS titfer you can fuck right off before you start.
a red card FFS. They’ve all got red cars.
what a dick!
You said that last time when I was trying to take a piss in the Cinema loo but I told you then and I will tell you again…. I only use it with wimmin.
shut up phyllis, we all know you are a fucking bird.
and I am going to spank your arse if you keep backchatting top boy.
I am starting to think that is what you want me to do.
If you really are a fat blonde lass then maybe I do. But I think that’s just an identity you assumed for your online Cyber6 sessions with long distance lorry drivers.
I know ushering at the local Odeon ain’t the most fun job in the world titfer, but bloody hell get a real life FFS.
Bottom Boy, Shouldn’t you be selling “tossed salads” to the punters in row 10?
but anticitizen, you have already sucked off rown 10.
let them get their breath back FFS.
Full ashtray
I am deeply offended by all this sexual innuendo
please please can we have a new government
Guidiot the Oaf, oh pizza boy.
Thanks for the warning will stay well clear
you aren’t invited you c’unt.
hssssss………
Gertcha Gertcha, Cow son. Take that.
(Not you TaT. Him)
You got a puncture tat?
That’s the girlfriend.
The last one let him down too.
You couldn’t be sure which one would turn up. The old funny one or this new bot like thicko who is boroing everyone to death with his platitudes.
note to retard: invest in spellchecker.
So “top boy” is reduced to picking holes in spelling and grammar? How the Mighty have fallen!
I think we have an impostor titfer as well as a lame duck Master Baiter.
I blame the comprehensive school system myself. You just can’t get decent trolls anymore.
shouldn’t you be doing the washing up or some other housework phyllis.
if I were your husband I would not allow you to use the computer at all.
far too complicated for a woman!
but if I were feeling generous I would allow you to earn computer time by doing the household chores.
now stop typing and start hoovering you lazy slag.
You sound like a misoj.. a mysogi … a misyso..
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU A WOMAN HATER!!
so you ARE A FUCKING BIRD!
the great thick as thieves draws out another fake ass motherfucker.
gotcha.
Fucking ell he thinks he’s Sherlock now .
old MB was funny.
the new one is crap.
a bit like Labour
you were always crap resurgemus.
how does it go ?
oh yeah – cretin
see what I mean?
no tat nobody does
When there’s so little steam in the boiler, why bother?
chuff chuff
thomas the tank engine: fuck off wanker.
Tell your fucking supervisor this is not acceptable. These common room in-jokes are getting pretty damn tedious.
well said Phil
we demand better quality trolling
said the troll.
you fucking idiot.
fraid not tat
I’m just independent minded
you should try it some time
On a scale of 1 to 10 in the Offensive scale titfer I’d give that a 2.
You’re slipping pal. I think we need a new top boy. Someone with fangs and more rude words.
Are you going TaT. Thanks to you I was able to come to terms when you correctly ideentified my problems. Also;
Guido-is there wheelchair access and a charging point?
I am top boy and I have publicly stated my independence for a long time now.
you are just a johnny come lately you c’unt.
you are full of shit regurgemus.
and you are out of your league.
Ivor, nah, MI5 are looking for me at the moment so I’ve got to keep it on the lowdown.
Tat,
The only thing you are independent of is sanity.
Is that independent as in BBC luvvy Martin Bell ?
Independence of grey matter isn’t what we meant.
*buys second tub of popcorn*
MI5 are looking for me at the moment so I’ve got to keep it on the lowdown.
MI5 is full of woofters innit?
Actually, does it come in tubs? I’ve never bought any of the rancid stuff. This reminds me of the sexually-charged mano-a-mano starkers fight scene in ‘Women in Love’, btw.
Titfer knows all about coming in tubs. Apparently he works the cinemas (and the health clubs).
You again,thought we were rid of you and your drivel.
Saw your man Bliar at St Pauls today,what an arsehole,how he has the brass neck to go to a service for fallen servicemen is beyond me.
Political Correctness is akin to censorship. Consider the misuse of terms likr ethical business and fair trade by the left. Whose ethics, whose politics, who is correct?
Have a look at Tom Sharpe’s satire on The Left, and its use of PORG – ‘Ancestral Vices’, ‘The Throwback’ Wilt. At the time they were first printed I wondered if there were such people who would try to constantly redefine lanaguage without understanding how ideas could be supresessed.
Hmmmm .
I ain’t gonna read no book , darlin , but ain’t callin someone a Uzbeki no worse than callin someone a Tajiki or Afghani or even Brian ???
It gets sooo confusin .
E x .
The left?
I thought they were invented by marketing guys.
Well, I don’t know about you but this is absolutely bloody awful.
I’m absolutely bloody offended by this, it’s awful. Never happened in my day that’s for sure.
What is it?
I aim to reward Guido.F with the order of the Running Dog – Blue Ribbon 2nd class, for his services to my Party
Yawn…..another troll.
Just bored I think….
Surely 1st Class with Oak Leaves?
And Shamrocks.
I shall not attend if the Reptilian Alliance will be there.
The Illuminated ones will be shinning!
I think harpy harriett should attend she’d have loads to say on the legal requirement to be politically correct at all times so that no offence can be given.
Especially when driving.
+++laugh+++
Apparently she committed that offence back in July. Do driving offences usually take so long to come to court?
I think it depends whether the Attorney General owes you a favour or not.
Or on how many spare pairs of underpants plod and the CPS have requisitioned.
I’ve never liked Martin Rowson’s cartoons. They are clever but heartless and he cannot draw people. Steve Bell is a much better artist and there is humanity and humour as well as sharp observation in many of his cartoons.
I shall take my own crayons and sketch the shapeshifters as they really are
Why don’t atheists call themselves ‘atheists’?
Because at the back of their minds they think that maybe there might just be a God and if he hears talk like that well he’ll know exactly who to zap with thunderbolts.
If you read the local papers you’ll see people getting hit by lightning all the time. Fucking atheists mate.
I’m an aesthete. Which is why I could never vote New Labour. And spend a lot of time in front of the mirror.
No. Your an aesthete cos you ain’t pretty. (TaT’s gone out for a couple in mins so I’m covering)
He has a subs bench?
He likes to act Dom but at heart the cinema punters know he’s a “sub”.
Nadine not available?
She is, but she’s choosy. Hard luck, Jimmy.
Totally off-topic, but have you seen http://www.speechbreaker.co.uk ?
Unbelievably good fun.
Marvellous!
If you’re going to take a fence, then you’d better take a matching gate
‘Coat for Mr Barricades!’
I had a hat and scarf too, when I came in
Just keep the sheepskin mitts on so you can’t type jokes like that.
Guido, if you see the child-murdering Satan worshiping Blair in your travels, kindly give the bastard a reminder of what he was told inside and outside of the St. Pauls service today. Many thanks.
Whose growing sensitivity to offence in politics?
If you choose politics for a career I thought it was a requirement that you have the hide of rhinoceros.
or whine like a stuck as Mandelson and Milliband do while in the next breath delivering a hugely personal nasty attack.
Its only the the busted flush that is New labour that complains while being the worst offenders
They are all chumps
I wonder whether brown and bliar were offended this morning when the Archbishop Canterbury, giving his sermon at Iraq memorial service , spoke about ‘spiritual wickedness in high places’ and how that leads nations to war rather than peace.
I do hope so.
Rhinoceros hides….
Bliar’s a Left footer now. All will be forgiven once he’s guilded Liverpool Cathedral with all that gold Gordo sold off cheap.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/you-have-blood-on-your-hands-blair-told-1800264.html
Well bliar does have blood on his hands and so does brown.
The trouble is, if gordon had his way he’d legislate to stop people saying ‘offensive ‘ things like that so that people in his position were never embarrassed by real people telling the truth.
You get the feeling from the comments made by some ministers like militwit, twatson and harpyharriett that they want to legislate against right wing blogs for the same reason.
Well it needed to be said. I also read that Rowen Williams also inferred or something about the war being started by the devil’s hand or something in front of Blair.Brown HMQ.
He won’t be repentant ‘cos he went catholic so lets hope he will get done by another international signee to the geneva convention and war crimes law.
Bliar had some nerve turning up to that service. Maybe he was praying for God’s forgiveness or maybe he was praying for David Kelly.
I’ve watched ‘The Trial of Tony Blair’ on ‘Channel 4 on-demand’ twice now.
Seems he’s not the only one with blood on his hands.
Gerry Adams not happy with accusations he let hunger strikers die for political gain, even though Thatcher had offered him a way out
http://sluggerotoole.com/index.php/weblog/comments/1981-hunger-strike-adams-and-the-irish-news/
In a just world Blair wouldn’t have any hands.
Filthy dirty fucking scuzzball.
many thanks to that Yorkshire man. Calls a spade, a spade.
I can just imagine Blair the Confessor muttering under his breath, “who will rid me of this damned priest?” and “bloody proddy dogs!”.
Mandeldome. Mandeldome. Mendel…dome, spelling numpty.
is Michael COVE a distant relative of Nick CAVE?
Yes. They had common ancestors called Adam and Eve.
the impact of the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate
The impact isn’t from those taking offence – there have alwasy been the easily offended and the professionally offended; the difference today is that the entire fucking country caves in the moment some Hunt starts whining. Christ, they’re having a go at Brucie now. Make no mistake, PC is socialism by other means – if they’re not in Downing St they’ll ensure they’re in your office, you classroom, your library, your newspaper, your TV channel. PC is about control – controlling language to control thought. Chap called Orwell wrote about it.
Marina Hyde is whining on Cif about Brucie – “”We used to have a sense of humour about this,” he told Talksport, in a statement he has since been ordered to retract. “The Americans used to call us limeys.” Yes … It is a shame that Bruce’s idol and former collaborator Sammy Davis Jr is no longer around to explain why a racist epithet is different to a nickname derived from the Royal Navy’s erstwhile scurvy-prevention programme. ”
Well why is it different marina? Oh, because you say so? She goes on: “After Ron Atkinson used the N-word in his repulsive verdict on the footballer Marcel Desailly, fellow pundit Jimmy Hill asked “why should that be any more of an offence than someone calling me chinny?”, ”
Well why should it Marina? Hmm?
This is the thing. This is the key point; the bastards are trying to build – almost *have* built – a culture in which everyone speaks and behaves in a certain way without even considering why they might be doing it. They dont’ question. THEY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT THERE IS ANYTHING TO BE QUESTIONED. For drones like Marina, and for practically everyone under 20 it seems, it is simply *accepted* that saying certain things is “wrong”. That it is actually *harmful*.
And it never occurrs to them to ask if that’s actually true.
PC is the single most terrifying aspect of implemented socialism, after the death camps. It is about a death camp in your head.
You go to that place tonight Guido, find someone there who will support somone from pakistan being called a paki – with or without malice. Find someone who thinks it’s just as bad for a ginge to be called a ginge, as for a black man to be called a nigger. Find someone who is *paid* to promote free speech who actually fucking does so. And if you come across Rohan Jayasekera, tell him he’s a cunt.
Ha ha. I knew TaT would be put off. Soon as I mention wheelchairs he gets a concience. He hasn’t called me a cripple for a week now.
Spasmo
Great – and my comment is being held for moderation…. oh the irony.
And they’ve got christmas trees up in town. I hate this stupid fucking country.
nevermind Frank, I’m sure you’re made of sterner stuff
Is Guido a hopeless optimist or a disorganised shambles?
He posts notice at 5:16pm of an event starting at 6:30pm the same evening. Is he trying to avoid having people turn up?
I hope he’s emailed Jeremy Clarkson to join them.
They need someone to contribute to the debate that regularly makes ‘offensive’ political comment ( as in ‘one eyed scottish idiot’).
He’ll be able to tell them all about the art of insincere apology.
He’s probably got this running live on an overhead projector showing the comments to the audience and the guest panel.
WE WANT A REFERENDUM. Thanks.
Offence is only taken when we chose to.
CON 44%(+4), LAB 27%(-4), LDEM 17%(-1)!!!!!
Is that the sound of smashing Nokias I hear.
Yes but which poll? Link?
For Nell
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/
Thanks.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/10/content_12203035.htm
Here’s an interesting Chinese view on that YouGov poll.
Poor gordon , no bounce after the labour conference and now the Tories have done this.
Strange thing about this blog. I tried twice to post a Th*nk You to Charlie and both times it got pulled.
Guido’s at that debate so he’s not doing it.
I think that automod is out of control.
one feels like making a comment about Barry Obama not deserving the Nobel Peace prize, but Labourlist would state the only motive could be racist
a bit like Mary Whitehouse must have had cock on the brain to make such associations
Erm, I’m sure Mr Omaha Beach is a really nice chap, and trying very hard, but what has he actually achieved?
didn’t he play hide and seek with the Gordon Brown ?
Only in the kitchens. Mind you, probably deserves international recognition for that sacrifice alone…..
I actually wanted Omaha to win that election and was pleased when he did.
But I find it difficult to understand how a man who had only been in office 11 days when nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize closed can be worthy of such an award.
As for the racist tag. Well Labour just use it as an emotive insult every chance they get to deflect criticism against them. As is evidence in the Attorney General affair or the criticisms that are legitimately levelled against Malik, Uddin and Lord Taylor.
Don’t worry. Barrack was given the award to buck his spirits up as he is having a tawdry time at home.
It’s all those T.E.A parties nobdy will let him attend and the worry that the cartridge makers have had to go 24/7 to try and fill the demand.
The man plainly deserves the award for, so far, having avoided the eruption of civil war in the States over the small matter of a birth certificate.
Latest poll
CON 44% (+4) LAB 27% (-4) LD 17%(-1)
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/
sorry did not see it already posted above
In the light of this new poll I think this ‘offensive’ article by the Mirror a little while ago about Cameron’s unelectability is amusing.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/10/10/david-daddy-was-a-fag-and-mummy-was-a-racehorse-cameron-has-never-been-liked-115875-21735608/
Unbelievable comment at the end and this from Labour!!!
“Talk about Doublethink. Talk about 1984. George Orwell would have loved this Tory hypocrite to bits.”
Hilarious. The bitterness that seeps from the rotting corpse of Labour is quite disturbing actually.
As they say, fish rots from the head down.
don’t worry I enjoyed reading it again
What mystifies me was that Labour got a bit of a lift after their conference. I mean, are there really, really people out there who were persuaded by what they heard?
For a brief moment yes. However like every announcement made by Labour and McDisaster they are less than impressed when they see the small print and it all turns out that it was a repackaged announcement anyway.
Always always always read the small print on any announcements Brown makes
No lift – YouGov or whoever it was fiddled the weightings.
In fact, I don’t think that 27% of the popn are truly nitwits, that 27% is really an artefact of the pollsters weightings. The weightings are supposed to reflect past trends, but my guess/belief is we are in uncharted waters.
Someone should make a law against farting or even tax farts.
You can call me anything you like, you can within reason threaten me with violence or even try to steal my possesions. But woe betide anyone who farts in my face, You have been warned.
Are you only 3 feet tall?
No he just likes crawling
Are you that Verne gnome?
fartax farttax fartax
sounds good to me
fartax.gov. we’ill sniff you out
It will never happen just more hot air.
It’s yet another manifestation of Big Government.
Highly-trained snatch squads equipped with noise meters and gas-masks stationed outside curry-houses in the early hours.
“Ha – 5 decibels above Government limits. The swine! Sieze him, men!”
NuLABOUR: FIGHTING BACK AGAINST METHANE CHEATS!
I dont have to take offence, I just take a wall instead…
offence afence ahahahahah get it!!!
I want to know why it is that tat always disppears around 6 pm.
He’s amusing and should hang around a bit later when more people have got back from work..ready for a bit of banter.
Perhaps he’s been put to bed early..or having a wank..or fantasying about Big Dave getting into power?
No offence meant tat…you just seem to be missing out on prime time exposure.
It’s Friday night. He’s gone clubbing.
What’s that..yoof clubbin’?
seal clubbing
Or just generally clubbing anyone that doesn’t agree with him…politically,of course.
Hiya Nell , darlin x
He said he woz off cubbin .
I think that’s when you stick ur club in a Cub’s woggle but I ain’t sure .
I’m gonna research it E x .
Friggin’ hell, you’re right, it is Friday night…. and i’m sat here, reading this bollocks.
jesusfuckingwept.
Mourn for lost youth, but remember; youth is wasted on the young.
those bastards
I’ve noticed this and you know what, I’m shy and all that, and indeed, am probably old enough to be his mum, but, well, I can’t help it, I just love him to bits …..
Love him to bits??!
Lads that go clubbing are a pain to their Mothers. They stumble in noisily at about 4am, usually with 4/5 other mates and all fall asleep on your lounge floor.
Then at around 11am the next morning they all want a cooked breakfast.
I got wise to that one!!! I took him house hunting and made him buy his own house. What he does when he goes clubbing now I have no idea!!!!
Oh Nell
I think this is the real thing.
he’s really got me, if you know what I mean
after Ken, I think I could handle him
Handle him? Would advise Marigolds, at the very least….
That’s when his mam puts his tea on the table. I should imagine Friday night is fishfingers and chips night with garden peas. Then when he’s had a nice cup of tea he must log on to World Of Warcraft and do mighty battle for the fair hand of Lady Elsinore.
After several hours of slaughtering dwaves and elves it is time for another cup of tea. And a Penguin biscuit.
So now it is time once more to enter the real world of political debate. Easy, all the blokes are cretins and all the women are sluts. Dirty fucking sluts.
Anyways, time for a sandwich. Cheese n pickle and maybe a hobnob biscuit then back to the cut and thrust of political debate.
Day in, day out.
Brown has not got the Nobel Prize for Economics despite saving the world
shame
As a consolation perhaps he’d like dynamite shoved up his arse.
I’ll do it guv
The father of a soldier who lost his life refused to shake Bliar’s hand, saying he had blood on it.
I hope Bliar remembers this – it WILL come back to haunt him.
NO. Blair was foolish to offer his hand and the father was churlish not to accept it.
The UKs armed service is a volunteer force..no one is forced to join or not allowed to leave.
The brutal truth is that blair ordered this young man to war and the young man went. The lad’s father could have intervened.
If you play with fire expect to get burned
So anyone who joins the Army is a suicidal fool, then!.
God, what an imbecile you must be to make such a callous comment.
There are some very shallow people about sadly.
In principle,you are correct.
However,when they sign up to the Armed forces,I know that most volunteers are prepared to lay down their lives for the good of the Country..in the interests of what they believe is the right thing to do.
But…when they are sent to War,at OUR Governments behest..based on lies and falsifications…is that right,and just?
Sorry!
But this subject just makes me so mad and so very sad. So many lost young men/women in Iraq and Afghanistan.
When a young man/woman signs up with the Armed Forces and knows that he might put his life on the line for his country, surely there should be a covenant between the individual and the government?
It should go without saying that the government undertakes to make sure that the soldier has the maximum kit necessary to do his job and in the event of injury every compensation and the absolute best medical support that he/she needs to recover and lead as normal a life as possible.
That should be the absolute minimum of the covernant between the government and its Armed Forces- shouldn’t it???!!!
Why is it always “Sub-standard kit”
Or “the right vehicle for the job”
Or “the right fuel tank on the plane”
Or “too few Helicopters”
Stop blaming the kit. The kit is exactly right for its specified usage. It is the demands placed on the kit outside its capability that is wrong.
The only mistake is with the people who send the wrong vehicle/plane into the wrong area. Stop blaming inanimate objects.
Anon. Just Stop It!!!
Inanimate Objects Don’t Make Mistakes. Humans Do!!!
Especially Lying Human Political One’s like bliar, bobaintbustinagut . brown ,kevan, ffoolkes, alastairC,
There is a covenant between the Armed Forces and Queen and Country.
This Labour Government has blasted it to hell.!!! They will go down in history with all those historic uncaring failures who lacked a soul – Nero, Hitler, Mussolini , Mao, Stalin , that chap in Cambodia etc etc………
Echo!
Anon are you old enough to have a son?! And have you followed the debate over Iraq?
Bliar sent them out there on a lie!!! (WMD) And he sent them out there with rubbish equipment completely inadequate for the terrain and the threats they faced. Snatch landrovers because they were leftovers from Ireland and so, no cost to the budget.
Furthermore, after some of those deaths, bliar tried to cover up the inadequacies of equipment with more lies.
Frankly if that had been my son that had died under those conditions, I would have punched him in the face, never mind the consequences.
Churlish?? Sheesh you’re an IDIOT!!!
Frankly if that had b
More than that Nell. I’ve been there and have the T shirt.
Am pissed off with political parties making capital out of the armed sevices.
We do not serve the government of the day, we serve our country and our King or Queen.
Well then you have my respect.
But I still say that that Father was right to refuse Bliar’s hand. He was a parent!! He had lost a child to this uncaring government!! I wonder how bliar would have felt if that had been one of his sons??
In WW1 and WW2 it was common for Minister’s sons and indeed for MP’s themselves, to serve and die in the Armed Forces. In Iraq and Afghanistan there hasn’t been a single government connection to the serving Armed Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan to my knowledge.
Bliar and Brown have betrayed all of you who have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. They DO have blood on their hands!!!!
They have lied repeatedly. They are not providing maximum equipment, maximum medical support and maximum compensation. They are a Failed Government!!!!
Then you know what your former mates are telling us about what’s going on.?
What McChrystal has briefed?
You know that unless something changes big time in terms of policy very, very soon, NATO will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and everyday that our GOVERNMENT (responsible for OUR troops) delays makes the situation worse.
Let’s see what the head of our present government has to say next Wednesday in his long overdue statement.
Furthermore Anon, if you’d watched that Piers Morgan film about Sir Cliff’s Barbados villa and seen photos of the Blair family enjoying his infinity pool and being waited on hand an foot by Sit Cliff’s servants in August 2003 for ONE WHOLE FUCKING MONTH, while all the while the guys were slugging it out in Iraq having to share flak jackets, fighting a war in more or less the same LandRovers that I use to get my fucking shopping at Waitrose, you’d want to take your one chance of spitting in Blair’s grinning face.
Anon: Bliar may have ordered the troops in, but they cannot obey if the order is illegal. Thats why the defence chiefs insisted in confirmation of legality in writing, and thats why Bliar had to get the Atorney General to revise his opinion from No to Yes.
I’m only sorry Alastair Campbell wasn’t there as well.
They were both guilty of manipulating truth and lies to get us into the Iraq War.
And they were both guilty of shamelessly harassing Dr David Kelly to his death.
I hope it haunts them for the rest of their lives.
But I also hope that gordon will be similarly haunted for the way he and aintbustinagut are failing our troops in Afghanistan.
Not that that helps our troops. God Bless ‘Em.
Nell, to be haunted you have to be able to objectively analyse and understand your actions and the outcome of those actions: sadly I suspect McSnotty considers the past 12 years to have been a roaring socialist success
and the slaughter continues.
UK soldier killed in Afghanistan
The soldier was killed near Camp Bastion in southern Afghanistan
A British soldier has been killed in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has announced.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8298852.stm
and how we don’t care for injured
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8291969.stm
So the choice is between kitting out the troops properly and buying an adequate number of helicopters or buying two shiny new aircraft carriers (for future interventions) which would save jobs in Gordon McBusts backyard. Mmmm tricky this one but does anybody know where I can get tickets to watch the launch and attend the civic reception afterwards.
There’s no money in the gratitude or not of soldiers and their families. I expect Blair and Cherie are more upset about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize – after all that comes with about $1.2M…
No I’m Sorry. The Bliars tonight are engrossed in the planning of their coronation as Eu President and First Lady of Europe.
Should we have robes of Ermine?
What about our Crowns. Black Diamonds from South Africa do you think or maybe Emeralds from those foul mines in South America?
Never mind the potentially fatal mining conditions that the workers in the emerald and diamond mines experience.
Well . We, the Bliars are The Important One’s. Never mind the welfare of miners or troops.
You just ignore it all bliar and cherie antoinette. But one day it WILL come back to bite you.
“Ladies and Gentlemen… I give you our own, our very own… well you can read about it here… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Ceau%C5%9Fescu“
More trouble at the EU mill by the looks
Czech leader wants treaty opt-out
President Klaus has compared EU institutions to the old Soviet bloc
The Eurosceptic Czech President, Vaclav Klaus, says he wants his country to have an exemption from a key EU charter before he will sign the Lisbon Treaty. Mr Klaus demanded an opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights, similar to opt-outs agreed previously for the UK and Poland.
The demand threatens a further delay over the treaty, correspondents say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8299485.stm
If the Chapter opt-out is good enough for UK and Poland, then the Czech Republic should have the same.
Nice one, Vaclav.
Perfect Timing.
If it’s good enough for the UK, Poland and the Czech Republic, isn’t it good enough for everybody else?
Put the brakes on and renegotiate the whole treaty!
Nice one. Do they bounce the Czechs and have them dig their heels in or do they re-write the constitution and force the Irish to have a best of three vote?
That just the point. Any change has to be renegotiated by all 27 and the Irish are constitutionally bound to vote a third time as the Reform Treaty will, with the Czech Amendment (we want what UK and Poland got), be an amended treaty. Indeed it will have to be re-ratified by all 27.
Heavens.
The thing is; if the lisbon treaty gets killed off I believe they will slowly bring parts of it in over time to end up as it was intended anyway. If we are left having it without a referendum or plebicite at the next election it gives more weigh to proper action to get out completely giving us a chance to review what we have already and what we want by concensus. I’m still going voting UKIP right up to the wire and beyond if neccesary.
Yeah darlin !!!
You tell em **YAAWWWN**
Do you boys ever find urselfs standin at the bar alone , fiddlin wiv ur loose change ???
Hmm . Thought so .
E x .
Ewanme-I’m working actually. I’ve got an important green job.
Oh , hiya Rog , petal x .
I’ve gotta massive green job an I’m gonna pick it right now .
Jeez . I’m really scrapin the barrell these days .
I’m gonna retire an think of somethin .
Bye bye E x .
Doesn’t it work like this:
1) Let the people vote.
2) they vote no.
3) EU gives a few token gestures
4) they vote again
5) go back to 2 until its a yes.
Cherie’s looking a bit rough these days
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/10/blairs-buy-13-million-house-for-son.html
Like 40 grit emery cloth.
Al Ox is the future, man.
Worryingly, Tony looks like he fancies it….
LOL
I’ve seen that face before.
Did she pose for the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band’s “Gorilla” album sleeve?
Cameron explains his policies to latest recruit to the Tory snatch squad
i’m having anal sex tonite, back of the net you cripples.
Make sure he rubbers up eh mate?
Nice one , darlin !!!!
Is anyone else involved ???
E x .
The RSPCA?
Who’s screwing you tonight,tat…just yer average back street boy?
oh no your not my lad, we’ve only just met
now, come on, be nice to me …..
I can’t believe you spastics thought that the 9.02pm thief was me.
DOH!
9.02pm thief, your licence will be revoked if you steal my name.
comply.
I Notice Your Two Chums Rich And Mark arn’t On The Menu !
Unless There Is a Public Lynching Afterwards ?
and now for something completely different:
Beethoven’s 5th Symphony on potato peeler
And it goes like this:
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2006/05/dowie/John_Dowie_-_British_Tourist.mp3
Good anti-EUSSR song from days of yore.
Talking about offence and satire can some one put the question time clip, about 5 mins long, of hislop demolishing that arrogant cooper lady last night with regard to inheritence tax? I dont know how to do things like that but would really enjoy seeing it again! Thanks
I have no idea if this will work – but yvette cooper was being her usual poisonous foul self, so like her husband, on this qt clip as I copied it.
Try this one:
Take that biyatch..
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/8298203.stm
how do you do this insert you tube clips I mean?
Cooper sounds like a throwback from Militant, 3,000 richest families, £2bn estates, all we need now is the 250 monopolies rant and we can fill in the bingo cards.
Perhaps someone should ask her how she and Ed have arranged their estates?
lifes’ tough on a mere £600k per year. They’re a hard working family you know.
Anyone notice Dave asking Yvette Poison; “Have the conservatives boobed?”
Freud at work?
Hislop is a little englander fascist. He should be in jail for abusing Yvette Cooper like he did.
Hislop had a fair point.
Labour have been dishing out smears for 12 years. This was a straight face-to-face pointing out of a truth. Labour don’t like it when someone tells the truth, do they?
Old Poopers Cooper is possibly the most vile politician in the UK, she deserves everything she gets. As she sowed so shall she reap.
Go for it IH. Hit that nail on the head, over and over and over.
They DO NOT LIKE IT UP ‘EM!!!
Don’t worry. She’s got to fuck off back to Santa’s workshop soon – he’s missing her & he’s got lots of orders coming in soon.
Talking of offence, Clarkson’s opened his mouth again….
http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/09102009/19/jeremy-clarkson-slams-tv-bosses.html
Oooooo !!
Get her !! I’m awaitin moderation for less .
See ya E x .
HERE LOVE YOU USING THE DILDO TONITE OR DO YOU WANT A REAL MAN?
I’VE TAKEN THREE BLUEYS AND I’M READY TO GO LIKE A ROCKET.
OMFG !!!
You is soooo rude , darlin !!
Nah , makin jam at the mo soo no rabbitin
Yeah , like a real man but you don’t measure up I don’t spose x .
If u’ve done loadsa pills an ain’t got nowhere to go then try knockin the livin room an dinin room thro or doin some press ups in the garden ready for those shrubs you woz gonna plant .
Failin that , petal , hone ur human spinnin-top act ready for the Britain Is Sooo Talented show .
Oooo . My bonce is sooo fulla stuff .
Later E x .
can I just say that Cameron and Gideon are totally superficial Hunts without an original thought between them. EU stooge wankers. Maggie….
No.
Piss off, no refund.
Sounds about right to me. Cameron and Gideon will say anything in order to get elected and nervous Conservative workers will reciprocate.
Dave & George talk a good Tory talk but they are NOT TORIES.
I don’t like Tories but I like you Ukip fascists even less. Labour will win next year. If they don’t therell be blood everywhere.
the voice of a demented soul ….. shame
The tories will will next year.. and to eveyone concerned their will be no change. Watch out for Blair 2.0
Blimey, he’s woken up. Somebody give him his Horlicks.
is this the pantomime dame michael white?
fuck off you hoon
how about a swap then…Noel…..
Noel, why don’t you shove your trimphone up your arse.
Looks like Alky Aida get everywhere
A scientist working on the Hadron Collider “big bang” project in Switzerland has been arrested on suspicion of terror links. Al Qaeda suspect worked at Swiss nuclear lab The man, who has not been named, is one of two Algerian brothers arrested in Vienne in southeastern France on Thursday suspected of links to al-Qaeda’s north African wing.
The European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) said the suspect had been working on an experiment in particle physics as a contractor since 2003.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091009/twl-hadron-collider-scientist-arrested-41f21e0.html
LOL !!
They woz originally gonna call it the ‘Circular Underground Neutron Thingy’ but some killjoy renamed it .
Recyclin x .
E x .
ROFL.
Are they renaming it ‘Circular Hadron Underground Magnetic Particle Smasher’?
My additions to science.
Quark-Universe Impulse Measurer.
Charged Hadron Observation Device.
Baryon Laser-photometry Over Web Mediated Experiments.
Superconducting Underground Kinetic Barrier And Laser Source
It will all end in tears. FFS they can’t even make CCTV cams work at Stockwell underground……….or can they?
I’ll swap your Charged Hadron Observation Device for a furry pencilcase
The opporsition to Prescident Barack Obama getting the noble peace prize is just down to one thing only RACISM. Whites don’t like black people getting prizes end of.
I presume you mean the Nobel Peace Prize?
He had been in office 11days when nominations for this prize , closed. Please tell us – ‘What has he done at that moment in his career to justify the Award’??????
As for Racism. I am sick of that accusation being levied everyime we complain about incompetent, inadequate, troughing Labour ministers and Members of the House of Lords.
I have a family which encompasses Hindu’s, Jews, one Muslim and me a Christian. Funny, but we don’t judge ourselves on our religions. We judge ourselves on our commitment to family, our work ethic , our care of our children.
Labour doesn’t give a toss for any of that!!!
Yeah….we are left with swimming and skiiing…and horse racing. Grrreat.
Yes Nobel are very big in toilet tissue – so I’ve heard
They may even get the Master of the Rolls to award the prize
The man who invented the door knocker got the same prize.
My wife’s got two of them. Brilliant idea!
Blair skewered. Brown got out by the back door before he was similiarly confronted:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/you-have-blood-on-your-hands-blair-told-1800264.html
He should have laid him out.
Good for Mr Brierley. Bliar, despite his obscene wealth and his love of grandstanding on the world stage, is one of the very little people, and I suspect that most of us have scraped far better from the soles of our shoes. It is high time he was confronted by the consequences of ‘his’ war.
I understand McBust legged it out of a back entrance.
NuLiebour – unprincipled and cowardly.
Hey! Trust me, – I’m a straight kinda guy!
Ah sav’d tha’ wuld,
an nuthn’s ma fult ye un’stn.
I was just about to make a very different post. Then I thought who would agree.
If you answer honestly yes then you now what I mean
yes
Why isnt DR Liam Fox serving as a reservist in the RAMC?
‘cos he’s too busy DJing on Magic 105.4 efffemm mayt
Brown and his two paid liars on the Telegraph, Andrew Porter and Mary Riddell, get together to concoct another load of shameless lies to wind up the readership:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html
Errrr Right. So the great helmsman has looked into the future and all will be well. Shame he didn’t see ‘it’coming. But never mind. We all make mistakes, don’t we?
Just a matter of cutting the deficit before it destroys us and then there is the little matter of the borrowing.
I won’t worry about it.
My future is secure in Gordon’s hands.
All this talk of bust is a mere mirage. It’s just a bit less of a boom, perhaps.
A blip, even.
Where’s the lending, Gordon?
Where are the world leading export industries we need?
Perhaps there’s more oil in the North Sea?
Perhaps, there are fairies at the bottom of my garden!
It might bounce back a bit before Christmas, but what happens in the worse months for retailing – January and February, when the VAT also goes back up?
Anybody with money in the bank (earning little interest) is going to buy the goodies they might want now – this month we’ve fixed the garage roof (the sun wasn’t shining, but it wasn’t raining – next month it’s the kitchen.) After that – zero spending.
Bounce BACK is eactly what it will do. We actually want it to bounce away from the last attempt of making an economy work with bankers alone.
It will not bounce forward to a recovery until the boy playing with it allows others to take over.
That twat voted for these wars,
Was trained as a Dr at our expense but just wanks about Westminster
Shame him
Tell the world that despite being a Dr and shadow defence Hoon he wont give up his holidays to use the skills that we paid for to hep out as a medic
WANK STAIN!
Oh stop whinging you drunken prick. I haven’t noticed you offering your services to the war effort. Is that because they don’t take pathetic, alcoholic, whining gobshites?
Growing sensibility to offence on political debate.
There does , of course, have to be limits.
Why then must we put up with the likes of sp*edo who is lower even than the sewer and equal to bliar, brown and alastairc with blood on their hands.
Oh my god ive had a post removed and ime not speado , clearly didnt get to end , i know how banksy feels when council pull his walls down
opps sorry its back
I was in B&Q earlier today. Dulux have just launched a new colour ‘Michael White’ (it’s actually shit brown).
Mmm. There’s already too much of that Brown around here. Do they have something in a nice pink or custard green instead?
“Taking offence”? Give it back! That’s my fence!
Sorry, best I can do at this time of night…
gordon says the economy will be recovered by 2010 and we shall all vote for him in large numbers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html
Bless!!! Delusion as studied by the psychoanalysts!!!!
Night. God Bless.
Night, night and pleasant dreams.
Only we have another 30 weeks, or is it 29 weeks now ( time goes so fast when one is enjoying ones self!) of this delusional man and his band of crap men and women, enough is enough, just get on with you waste of space.
The imaginarium of Mr barroso is a sell out literally !
Barry obama gets a noble peace prize , did anyone tell the noble commitee that hes running a $1.4 trillion defieciet curiously similar to the $1.4 million prize money hes just donated , it gets better as the dollar has slid there are wispers of oil moving out of the Dollar .
I want an award for the best ruin of nations wealth , mugabe would win but the ruin must at least be in the top 3 , could call them clunkers , prize would be some sort of persoanl welath confiscation and being paraded around the streets in your underwear carrying a sign say “It was me “.
Blair gets told he has blood on his hands , must be from all the diy hes doing in his property empire .
Phew george gets his figures wrong , but not to worry he was only on about a piffling 8% of the debt that the ruin has made . perhaps some spad is being hung drawn and quartered as I type , or bound in a chair and made to sniff stale empty moet bottles .
Dannatt still getting flak, I dont know why I mean even if at a so called more circumspect date of offering his services , you would still be pleased to have them . Big non story for CW .
Another new town needed as a Uk passport is handed out every two minutes wont be long before going for a drive in the countryside and the kids play i spy based on modern architechture.
Conference season round up, hands award to Dave , so he goes into parliament with a bit of a boost and scene 2 begins . nice to be back mr speaker , would the prime minsiter like to tell the house how many nokias were destroyed during the recess ,wether his or his aids .
As to post and politicians wanting offensive language to be curbed , CW feels that its more newtonion rather than etonian , for every referendum renaged upon or ecnomic lie there is an equal and opposite potty mouthed reaction .
The public have right to free speech on how there masters decide there lives , at the very basic level it counters corruption that is the only way that democracy can work . The argument seems to be on returning vicous derogatory attacks back to intelligent crtique , but the i am reminded about the faux way this goverment answers questions , “it is right to do so” , this sort of mini tort to specific questions , things never get answered or clarified .
The ruins marr interview was classic , anyone remeber what he said other than about pain killers ?? exactly , so I dont think that until the public get the parliament back that actually works they have any right to ask Blogossphere to change . we are angry at what has been done , if the home computer hadnt been invented i would be sharpening my pitchfork and dusting off the longbow .
we have been up against a media operation designed to keep you seperated form your elected representatives doing the job of ensuring the country is run properly , bit late to start crying now , you corrupted it , troughed the money .
CW has some other campaigns to do , getting very upset about winter bird migrations , so will be back when satisfied were not silently killing off wildlife ecosystems , till we type again CW
too long and too boring.
please try harder.
thankyou.
Gordon could make a killing flogging those rose-coloured specs he must be wearing. Fuck knows we all need cheering up.
I hope for her sake he lets the missus wear them during coitus.
Calm your mental block with the knowledge that she’s a beard and they don’t have sex.
Gordon !
What ?
Come Over Here And Suck Sarah’s Cock !
Agree She’ll Think That A “MAN” Is Flicking Her Switch !
Gordon stll thinks that he solved boom and bust.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html
Almost every time Guido writes about James Macintyre an email arrives in the inbox complaining about everything from mis-spelling his name to not giving the whole truth. Once he complained bitterly that some nuance was wrong (that he hadn’t formally applied for a job with Ed Miliband, but had been considered for a SpAd job with Miliband and was furious when he discovered that his close buddy Derek Draper told Ed not to hire him – if you are really interested).
The tone is often: “Are you going to correct that o fearless truth seeker? Or just bathe in inaccuracy as ever? Which one?”
Macintyre’s journalism, such as it is, and Guido is in a position to verify this with documentary evidence, often amounts to little more than emailing a Labour spin doctor, and asking them have they “got any dirt”. He was not so long ago sniffing (pardon the pun) around for cocaine related dirt on Cameron. Fair enough, Guido is in no position to criticise Macintyre for muck-racking. This was the manner in which he got his famous “Obama thinks Cameron is a lightweight” line. It was fed to him.
Macintyre has been pushing the Labour spin line that Michael Kaminski, the Tory ally in the European parliament, is some kind of anti-semitic, far-right extremist. Some have been urging Kaminski to sue the New Statesman, Kaminski tells Iain Dale in this month’s Total Politics
What I’m facing here in the UK is not only a very disappointing standard of political debate, but very disappointing standards of journalism. Rabbi Schudrich made a statement about the allegations in this magazine. He sent them a statement and they ignored it. They didn’t print it. Rabbi Schudrich made it very clear that he didn’t want to make any political statements about me, but he wanted to make clear that he has nothing against me and does not regard me as an anti-Semite. Come on. Just recently, I came back from Israel where I was received at the top level of government. I had my statement posted on the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs. The Israeli ambassador to Brussels accepted my invitation to visit our group next week; can you imagine that the Israeli state would receive me if they had any doubts about my attitude towards the Jewish people and the state of Israel?
Now either Kaminski or Macintyre are not telling the whole truth, and the Rabbi is in a position to settle this out right once and for all. The word is that Rabbi Schudric is going to make a definitive statement.
O/T but very important to sign this petition in support of President Vaclav Klaus brave stand.
http://www.petitiononline.com/sptklaus/petition.html
Done.
Mr Fawkes – could you maybe link to this for a few days? That would be….heroic.
Sky bias this morning rather than BBC.
The news report at 8am led with the statement bad news for hundreds of MP’s as they return to the commons on Monday and will be told to justify their expenses claims (Quite right too whatever party!!!)
This then led in the same story, sentence and breath to the next bit by the commentator who said and I quote:
“and in more bad news for MP’s the Tory lead in the polls has extended in the conference season”
Unquote
So not only bad news about the poll but the only party mentioned in the same story as expenses was the Tories. They also reviewed the Guardian who say the Tories sums don’t add up. (Yes that old cliche’ again)
I have already made a complaint to Sky regarding this outrageous statement made by one of their most senior political commentators on the main morning news. I doubt anything will be done though but impartiality seems to being thrown to the wind as the election approaches .
I have no problem with bad news being reported for any party INCLUDING TORIES if they screw up but this was way beyond what should be expected.
I think people go a bit overboard about the BBC. People who are blinkered about parties are, well… just blinkered. The BBC may well be biased but jumping on every nuance is just paranoia. I’ve thought the Sky coverage has been equally biased in many cases. Moreso recently. Whereas the BBC are veering more pro-Tory. Anticipating which side the butter’s on, obviously.
We pay for the BBC! It is unique and needs to work in a unique way and not in competition. It is a service.
I know. The public/private chestnut. But we’re talking bias, not funding, and that’s what I’m trying to be objective about. Can you imagine what it would be like to show no bias? Or ‘equal bias’? You’d need a whole new wave of lawyers, checkers – costing a fortune. Nothing live. It’s impossible. Yes there is bias I’m just saying we should keep some perspective.
nort much going on is there ?
Good. I thought perhaps I’d dropped off there.
Where am I? Is it 2010 yet?
I really don’t care about this Gordon bloke. Is he from Manchester or summat?
No, who I really want is tat, he makes me giddy
Quote of the Day
John Humpreys Today Programme
“…but worms don’t have nuclear weapons, do they?”
I presume the autocue guy left out the words “labour and lib dem” which should have gone before MPs . That’s the only way the sentence would make sense, quite regardless of any political bias
there is no free speech gordons going to tax us by the word
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Oh dear tony
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219241/Tony-Blair-makes-surprise-appearance-Queen-pays-tribute-Iraq-veterans-St-Pauls.html
“Three of the former Prime Minister’s bodyguards sprang into action, ushering away a visibly shocked Mr Blair, who had earlier been criticised during the service by the Archbishop of Canterbury”
So that’s 2 million quid well spent then.
Naughty ben
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219318/Now-Ben-Bradshaw-uses-Twitter-personal-attack-Cameron.html
Gordon is annoyed that the Nobel committee overlooked him. How can they all fail to have noticed that he saved the world?
He was disqualified for fucking it up in the first place.
++++++++ breaking news++++++++++++
Prezzas got a new job
Why is Gordon saying the only ‘the worst offenders’ will be prosecuted re bogus expenses claims? You’re an offender or you’re not. Vary the punishment, maybe. (It’s a rhetorical question. I know it’s because it’s them and not us).
Didn’t Orwell have a term for this type of behaviour?
Unbelievable!!! A Hunt of a moderator had censored my message saying that ‘Brit’ is an offensive term. What sort of dickhead site is this when the most foul messages are allowed and yet because I stated being called a ‘Brit’ was offensive it got banned. This Guido site is really weird.
Oh I see now. The word similar Raki gets automatically “awaiting moderation”. Very good, so you cannot even comment on a word now because of it possibly causing offence.
So I’ll now try ‘Iceland’ and see if that automatically gets into awaiting moderation.
‘Iceland’ has not gone into ‘awaiting moderation’. So there we have it. There are certain words that will immediately go into moderation as long as they refer to dusky people but not if they refer to people coming from Iceland or many other countries. What a stupid politically correct site this has turned into.