October 9th, 2009

Taking Offence: Satire and Offence

freewordIf you are in the Islington area tonight, Guido is chairing a discussion with Martin Rowson, leading cartoonist and author, Caspar Melville, editor of New Humanist, to discuss the impact of the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate.

More details here.


403 Comments

  1. 1
    tat says:

    if anyone is offended top boy says:
    FUCK OFF!

    • 9
      Tested and Tied says:

      Fuc you!

      • 11
        tat says:

        are you a taffy?

        • 21

          I agree. I bloody buggering agree. I’ve tried to broaden the apeal of this twatting blog today by posting a number of (I hope) amusing little snippets in what I’m sure we can all agree is the somewhat humorous timbre of the language west of Oswestry. And do I get any thanks? Do I fuck as like. Just a barrage of insults and death threats via e-mail directed at my wife and numerous offspring.

          • tat says:

            the English language is the finest language in the world.
            taffy.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            And that goes for your sheep an’ all George!

          • Anonymous says:

            I am missing the point here sir, could you enlighten me with a sample of the said humour. With a name like mine I am obviously interested in the language a little west of Oswestry.

          • The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

            You pompous Welsh Hoon

          • Irony where is thy sting says:

            I’ve heard some cocks and twats are so oversensitive and politically correct they get nutjob lawyers to sue

          • George, I thought it was a good idea!

            Did you hear the true story of a farmer from the ‘English’ side of the border? Was charged with shop lifting, but when the case came to court they had to get a translator in, as he hadn’t got any English, just Welsh. I think he was found not guilty, though it happened about 30 years ago, if my memory serves me.

            My own Welsh is very limited. Though I can tell people my name and just about order some beer and some cheese in Wales. My nan was the last person in our family with any Welsh.

        • 68
          Dick emery's cock says:

          RU gay?

        • 277

          New Statesman Senior Political Editor Mehdi Hasan in action

    • 28
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      • 149
        TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

        A fraudulent site? Surely they mean the HOC?

        • 154
          Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

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          FUCK DA BBC

    • 170
      Anonymous says:

      OFFENCE?

      As being offended is the easiest way to close down debate since racist became old hat, then you can be sure that Offended will be the new smeared.

    • 171
    • 191
      Phil Free says:

      You do realise of course, being genius and all, that being a ‘top’ boy has a well known meaning, or more accurately a defined ‘role’ in homosexualist slang?

      Hope you’re not offended by me pointing that out. Innit.

  2. 2

    There ought to be a law against taking offence.

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    Given your so close why not invite Tony Bliar.

    • 5
      tat says:

      FUCK OFF!
      NO REFUND.
      C’UNT.

    • 51
      Tonto Balair (Northwood Hills) says:

      If there’s any empty seats later get some traffic wardens in and they will entertain you I’m sure

    • 116
      Ever Vigilant says:

      Blair is protected 24/7 by bodyguards funded by the taxpayers at a reported cost
      of £2 m/year .

      £2m isn’t a surprise .But it is amazing that he still lives, considering that the guards
      are armed .

      What’s wrong with them ?

      • 150
        Cheese Lover says:

        No suitable grassy knoll. Yet.

        • 173
          Captain Haddock says:

          Ever Vigilant ..

          Don’t think for one minute that scenario won’t already have crossed certain minds .. but like many others, those Protection Officers have wives, kids & mortgages to pay etc ..

          So topping a turd like B’Liar just isn’t worth doing the Jail time for ..

          But I’m willing to bet very few of them would dive in the way to stop a bullet meant for him .. or for McSnot either, for that matter ..

        • 256
          Grassy Knoll says:

          I swear I didn’t fire that shot.

          Grassy x .

        • 301
          Lee Harvey Oswald says:

          But it wasn’t me – I was in the seposit……sirry, depositary.

      • 363

        Is it to protect Blair or to protect other people from him?

  4. 4
    Tachybaptus says:

    Perhaps you could bring Rich and Mark along in the hope that they might learn just a little about cartooning from Rowson. Though they don’t need lessons in being offensive.

  5. 6
    P.C Filth says:

    *Neee-naaaa*
    Evening, sir. I shall proceed towards Islington to monitor proceedings. Can’t be too careful these days, sir. Over

  6. 8
    Ewanme says:

    Ooooo !!

    I don’t understand the question , hun .

    ‘….the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate’ ??

    I’ll pop along anyway x .

    E x .

    • 10
      tat says:

      I was going to turn up but now I know you’re going I’m not going to bother.

      • 16
        Ewanme says:

        OMG !!

        Dont’t be like that , darlin . You scared I’ll out-thicko you ???

        Anyway , don’t you like a mass debate now an then ??

        E x .

        • 22
          tat says:

          you see, you can write decent posts when you try.

          • Ewanme says:

            LOL tat , petal x .

            I weren’t tryin .

            I ain’t motivated no more an when I is , I’m tooo pissed to type straight .

            So there .

            E x .

  7. 12
    Tonto Balair says:

    Who takes offence? Must be the losing side

  8. 14
  9. 19
    Fat-Cat says:

    I find people who take offence, very offensive

    • 25
      Tonto Balair says:

      Repression leads to war. Be strong you weaklings and fight!

    • 26
      P.C. Filth says:

      *Neee-naaaaa*
      Yes, sir. I attempted to convey that feeling to the Telegraph but they proceeded to take offence, or shat themselves, and wouldn’t entertain my comment. Over.

  10. 30
    A is for Opple says:

    I am a fat bastard, large BMW driving, white male small businessman from the West Midlands

    The fact that people can insult me with impunity at every opportunity with no fear of retribution is a good thing.

    I am on no-ones list of people to patronise or feel sorry for

    • 34
      tat says:

      stop whining you jive ass honky motherfucker.

      • 49
        B is for narna says:

        How much more help do women need to progress in the workplace?

        I am sure if the chimps at Dudley Zoo had had as much legislation and cash directed their way they would have done a better job than the female humans.

        Maybe if more women took work seriously they may actually make some progress.

        • 205
          oink says:

          free knickers would help

        • 395
          Jim Beam says:

          Many women don’t take work seriously because they think that they are entitled to special treatment at work to make up for all the years of perceived (imaginary) male repression. It simply doesn’t occur to them that men have been exploited for centuries by other men as well as women. The few who do step up to the plate are to be commended because they indeed work as hard or even harder than the men to prove that they got there on their own merits and were not part of some quota.

      • 135
        Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

        you missed one. Even if he did stop whinging, how could you tell? (accentism)

    • 43
      Tonto Balair (Northwood Hills) says:

      You poor bastard. Imagine living in West Midlands. What a shite hole. What yer floggin? Used tyres probably.

    • 83
      Carol.T says:

      B is for the Black Huhnery

  11. 33
    resurgemus says:

    Yougov:

    Con: 44
    Lab: 27
    Lib: 17

    http://www.yougov.co.uk/today/

  12. 35
    FrankFisher says:

    Same health warning as usual Guido – dont’ take those “free speech” advocates at that place at face value; they want free speech for people like htem, not for people they don’t like. Ask them about Theo Van Gogh, Max Hardcore or holocaust deniers, see how they respond then. Hoons and chumps.

  13. 39
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    The growing use of the mock-offence in order to smear one’s opponent, more like. To give you a footie metaphor, It is akin to diving in the penalty box in order to fool the ref and be wrongly awarded a penalty and probably getting the innocent defender a red car. PS titfer you can fuck right off before you start.

    • 41
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      a red card FFS. They’ve all got red cars.

      • 46
        tat says:

        what a dick!

        • 56
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          You said that last time when I was trying to take a piss in the Cinema loo but I told you then and I will tell you again…. I only use it with wimmin.

          • tat says:

            shut up phyllis, we all know you are a fucking bird.
            and I am going to spank your arse if you keep backchatting top boy.
            I am starting to think that is what you want me to do.

          • Phil O'Pastree says:

            If you really are a fat blonde lass then maybe I do. But I think that’s just an identity you assumed for your online Cyber6 sessions with long distance lorry drivers.

            I know ushering at the local Odeon ain’t the most fun job in the world titfer, but bloody hell get a real life FFS.

          • Bottom Boy, Shouldn’t you be selling “tossed salads” to the punters in row 10?

          • tat says:

            but anticitizen, you have already sucked off rown 10.
            let them get their breath back FFS.

    • 47
      Master Baiter says:

      Full ashtray

      • 211
        oink says:

        I am deeply offended by all this sexual innuendo

        please please can we have a new government

  14. 40
    Master Baiter says:

    Guidiot the Oaf, oh pizza boy.
    Thanks for the warning will stay well clear

  15. 42
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Political Correctness is akin to censorship. Consider the misuse of terms likr ethical business and fair trade by the left. Whose ethics, whose politics, who is correct?

    Have a look at Tom Sharpe’s satire on The Left, and its use of PORG – ‘Ancestral Vices’, ‘The Throwback’ Wilt. At the time they were first printed I wondered if there were such people who would try to constantly redefine lanaguage without understanding how ideas could be supresessed.

    • 82
      Ewanme says:

      Hmmmm .

      I ain’t gonna read no book , darlin , but ain’t callin someone a Uzbeki no worse than callin someone a Tajiki or Afghani or even Brian ???

      It gets sooo confusin .

      E x .

    • 139
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      The left?
      I thought they were invented by marketing guys.

  16. 54
    The Late Sir Geoffrey Winstanley- Wight says:

    Well, I don’t know about you but this is absolutely bloody awful.

    I’m absolutely bloody offended by this, it’s awful. Never happened in my day that’s for sure.

    What is it?

  17. 66
    Run D.M.C says:

    I aim to reward Guido.F with the order of the Running Dog – Blue Ribbon 2nd class, for his services to my Party

  18. 71
    Icke_Master (Thargggg) says:

    I shall not attend if the Reptilian Alliance will be there.

  19. 74
    Sir William Waad says:

    I’ve never liked Martin Rowson’s cartoons. They are clever but heartless and he cannot draw people. Steve Bell is a much better artist and there is humanity and humour as well as sharp observation in many of his cartoons.

    • 78
      Icke_Master (Thargggg) says:

      I shall take my own crayons and sketch the shapeshifters as they really are

  20. 88
    Sir William Waad says:

    Why don’t atheists call themselves ‘atheists’?

    • 112
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Because at the back of their minds they think that maybe there might just be a God and if he hears talk like that well he’ll know exactly who to zap with thunderbolts.

      If you read the local papers you’ll see people getting hit by lightning all the time. Fucking atheists mate.

    • 120
      Dack Blog says:

      I’m an aesthete. Which is why I could never vote New Labour. And spend a lot of time in front of the mirror.

  21. 95
    Jimmy says:

    Nadine not available?

  22. 100
    On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

    Totally off-topic, but have you seen http://www.speechbreaker.co.uk ?

    Unbelievably good fun.

  23. 111
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    If you’re going to take a fence, then you’d better take a matching gate

  24. 114
    Sod 'em all says:

    Guido, if you see the child-murdering Satan worshiping Blair in your travels, kindly give the bastard a reminder of what he was told inside and outside of the St. Pauls service today. Many thanks.

  25. 119
    nell says:

    Whose growing sensitivity to offence in politics?

    If you choose politics for a career I thought it was a requirement that you have the hide of rhinoceros.

    • 125
      McGroom says:

      or whine like a stuck as Mandelson and Milliband do while in the next breath delivering a hugely personal nasty attack.

      Its only the the busted flush that is New labour that complains while being the worst offenders

      They are all chumps

      • 142
        nell says:

        I wonder whether brown and bliar were offended this morning when the Archbishop Canterbury, giving his sermon at Iraq memorial service , spoke about ‘spiritual wickedness in high places’ and how that leads nations to war rather than peace.

        I do hope so.

      • 302
        Anonymous says:

        Mandeldome. Mandeldome. Mendel…dome, spelling numpty.

  26. 131
    hopeless at names says:

    is Michael COVE a distant relative of Nick CAVE?

  27. 137

    the impact of the growing sensitivity to offence on political debate

    The impact isn’t from those taking offence – there have alwasy been the easily offended and the professionally offended; the difference today is that the entire fucking country caves in the moment some Huhne starts whining. Christ, they’re having a go at Brucie now. Make no mistake, PC is socialism by other means – if they’re not in Downing St they’ll ensure they’re in your office, you classroom, your library, your newspaper, your TV channel. PC is about control – controlling language to control thought. Chap called Orwell wrote about it.

    Marina Hyde is whining on Cif about Brucie – “”We used to have a sense of humour about this,” he told Talksport, in a statement he has since been ordered to retract. “The Americans used to call us limeys.” Yes … It is a shame that Bruce’s idol and former collaborator Sammy Davis Jr is no longer around to explain why a racist epithet is different to a nickname derived from the Royal Navy’s erstwhile scurvy-prevention programme. ”

    Well why is it different marina? Oh, because you say so? She goes on: “After Ron Atkinson used the N-word in his repulsive verdict on the footballer Marcel Desailly, fellow pundit Jimmy Hill asked “why should that be any more of an offence than someone calling me chinny?”, ”

    Well why should it Marina? Hmm?

    This is the thing. This is the key point; the bastards are trying to build – almost *have* built – a culture in which everyone speaks and behaves in a certain way without even considering why they might be doing it. They dont’ question. THEY ARE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT THERE IS ANYTHING TO BE QUESTIONED. For drones like Marina, and for practically everyone under 20 it seems, it is simply *accepted* that saying certain things is “wrong”. That it is actually *harmful*.

    And it never occurrs to them to ask if that’s actually true.

    PC is the single most terrifying aspect of implemented socialism, after the death camps. It is about a death camp in your head.

    You go to that place tonight Guido, find someone there who will support somone from pakistan being called a paki – with or without malice. Find someone who thinks it’s just as bad for a ginge to be called a ginge, as for a black man to be called a nigger. Find someone who is *paid* to promote free speech who actually fucking does so. And if you come across Rohan Jayasekera, tell him he’s a cunt.

  28. 138
    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Ha ha. I knew TaT would be put off. Soon as I mention wheelchairs he gets a concience. He hasn’t called me a cripple for a week now.

  29. 141

    Great – and my comment is being held for moderation…. oh the irony.

    And they’ve got christmas trees up in town. I hate this stupid fucking country.

  30. 144
    Engineer says:

    Is Guido a hopeless optimist or a disorganised shambles?

    He posts notice at 5:16pm of an event starting at 6:30pm the same evening. Is he trying to avoid having people turn up?

    • 158
      nell says:

      I hope he’s emailed Jeremy Clarkson to join them.

      They need someone to contribute to the debate that regularly makes ‘offensive’ political comment ( as in ‘one eyed scottish idiot’).

      He’ll be able to tell them all about the art of insincere apology.

      • 164
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        He’s probably got this running live on an overhead projector showing the comments to the audience and the guest panel.
        WE WANT A REFERENDUM. Thanks.

  31. 146
    Old Grumpy says:

    Offence is only taken when we chose to.

  32. 153
    Down with Brown! says:

    CON 44%(+4), LAB 27%(-4), LDEM 17%(-1)!!!!!

    Is that the sound of smashing Nokias I hear.

  33. 168
    1 1ike g0ld says:

    one feels like making a comment about Barry Obama not deserving the Nobel Peace prize, but Labourlist would state the only motive could be racist

    a bit like Mary Whitehouse must have had cock on the brain to make such associations

    • 172
      Engineer says:

      Erm, I’m sure Mr Omaha Beach is a really nice chap, and trying very hard, but what has he actually achieved?

    • 178
      nell says:

      I actually wanted Omaha to win that election and was pleased when he did.

      But I find it difficult to understand how a man who had only been in office 11 days when nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize closed can be worthy of such an award.

      As for the racist tag. Well Labour just use it as an emotive insult every chance they get to deflect criticism against them. As is evidence in the Attorney General affair or the criticisms that are legitimately levelled against Malik, Uddin and Lord Taylor.

      • 184
        Hussein says:

        Don’t worry. Barrack was given the award to buck his spirits up as he is having a tawdry time at home.

        • 210
          charlie the chancer says:

          It’s all those T.E.A parties nobdy will let him attend and the worry that the cartridge makers have had to go 24/7 to try and fill the demand.

      • 263
        albacore says:

        The man plainly deserves the award for, so far, having avoided the eruption of civil war in the States over the small matter of a birth certificate.

  34. 175
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Latest poll

    CON 44% (+4) LAB 27% (-4) LD 17%(-1)

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/

    • 180
      One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

      sorry did not see it already posted above

    • 190
      resurgemus says:

      don’t worry I enjoyed reading it again

    • 193
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      What mystifies me was that Labour got a bit of a lift after their conference. I mean, are there really, really people out there who were persuaded by what they heard?

      • 227
        One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

        For a brief moment yes. However like every announcement made by Labour and McDisaster they are less than impressed when they see the small print and it all turns out that it was a repackaged announcement anyway.

        • 240
          Never ever forget Brown's 10p Debacle says:

          Always always always read the small print on any announcements Brown makes

      • 360
        A Pensioner says:

        No lift – YouGov or whoever it was fiddled the weightings.

        In fact, I don’t think that 27% of the popn are truly nitwits, that 27% is really an artefact of the pollsters weightings. The weightings are supposed to reflect past trends, but my guess/belief is we are in uncharted waters.

  35. 176
    Farting is the ultimate taboo. says:

    Someone should make a law against farting or even tax farts.

    You can call me anything you like, you can within reason threaten me with violence or even try to steal my possesions. But woe betide anyone who farts in my face, You have been warned.

  36. 177

    I dont have to take offence, I just take a wall instead…

  37. 181
    The Sleeper says:

    I want to know why it is that tat always disppears around 6 pm.

    He’s amusing and should hang around a bit later when more people have got back from work..ready for a bit of banter.

    Perhaps he’s been put to bed early..or having a wank..or fantasying about Big Dave getting into power?

    No offence meant tat…you just seem to be missing out on prime time exposure.

    • 187
      nell says:

      It’s Friday night. He’s gone clubbing.

    • 223
      Diedre Barlow says:

      I’ve noticed this and you know what, I’m shy and all that, and indeed, am probably old enough to be his mum, but, well, I can’t help it, I just love him to bits …..

      • 270
        nell says:

        Love him to bits??!

        Lads that go clubbing are a pain to their Mothers. They stumble in noisily at about 4am, usually with 4/5 other mates and all fall asleep on your lounge floor.

        Then at around 11am the next morning they all want a cooked breakfast.

        I got wise to that one!!! I took him house hunting and made him buy his own house. What he does when he goes clubbing now I have no idea!!!!

        • 285
          Diedre Barlow says:

          Oh Nell

          I think this is the real thing.

          he’s really got me, if you know what I mean

          after Ken, I think I could handle him

    • 319
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      That’s when his mam puts his tea on the table. I should imagine Friday night is fishfingers and chips night with garden peas. Then when he’s had a nice cup of tea he must log on to World Of Warcraft and do mighty battle for the fair hand of Lady Elsinore.

      After several hours of slaughtering dwaves and elves it is time for another cup of tea. And a Penguin biscuit.

      So now it is time once more to enter the real world of political debate. Easy, all the blokes are cretins and all the women are sluts. Dirty fucking sluts.

      Anyways, time for a sandwich. Cheese n pickle and maybe a hobnob biscuit then back to the cut and thrust of political debate.

      Day in, day out.

  38. 185
    1 1ike g0ld says:

    Brown has not got the Nobel Prize for Economics despite saving the world

    shame

  39. 195
    shelling-out says:

    The father of a soldier who lost his life refused to shake Bliar’s hand, saying he had blood on it.

    I hope Bliar remembers this – it WILL come back to haunt him.

    • 204
      Anonymous says:

      NO. Blair was foolish to offer his hand and the father was churlish not to accept it.

      The UKs armed service is a volunteer force..no one is forced to join or not allowed to leave.

      The brutal truth is that blair ordered this young man to war and the young man went. The lad’s father could have intervened.

      If you play with fire expect to get burned

      • 220
        Soldiers are citizens in uniform says:

        So anyone who joins the Army is a suicidal fool, then!.

        God, what an imbecile you must be to make such a callous comment.

      • 222
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        There are some very shallow people about sadly.

      • 236
        The Sleeper says:

        In principle,you are correct.

        However,when they sign up to the Armed forces,I know that most volunteers are prepared to lay down their lives for the good of the Country..in the interests of what they believe is the right thing to do.

        But…when they are sent to War,at OUR Governments behest..based on lies and falsifications…is that right,and just?

        • 255
          nell says:

          Sorry!

          But this subject just makes me so mad and so very sad. So many lost young men/women in Iraq and Afghanistan.

          When a young man/woman signs up with the Armed Forces and knows that he might put his life on the line for his country, surely there should be a covenant between the individual and the government?

          It should go without saying that the government undertakes to make sure that the soldier has the maximum kit necessary to do his job and in the event of injury every compensation and the absolute best medical support that he/she needs to recover and lead as normal a life as possible.

          That should be the absolute minimum of the covernant between the government and its Armed Forces- shouldn’t it???!!!

          • Anonymous says:

            Why is it always “Sub-standard kit”

            Or “the right vehicle for the job”

            Or “the right fuel tank on the plane”

            Or “too few Helicopters”

            Stop blaming the kit. The kit is exactly right for its specified usage. It is the demands placed on the kit outside its capability that is wrong.

            The only mistake is with the people who send the wrong vehicle/plane into the wrong area. Stop blaming inanimate objects.

          • nell says:

            Anon. Just Stop It!!!

            Inanimate Objects Don’t Make Mistakes. Humans Do!!!

            Especially Lying Human Political One’s like bliar, bobaintbustinagut . brown ,kevan, ffoolkes, alastairC,

            There is a covenant between the Armed Forces and Queen and Country.

            This Labour Government has blasted it to hell.!!! They will go down in history with all those historic uncaring failures who lacked a soul – Nero, Hitler, Mussolini , Mao, Stalin , that chap in Cambodia etc etc………

          • Anonymous says:

            Echo!

      • 237
        nell says:

        Anon are you old enough to have a son?! And have you followed the debate over Iraq?

        Bliar sent them out there on a lie!!! (WMD) And he sent them out there with rubbish equipment completely inadequate for the terrain and the threats they faced. Snatch landrovers because they were leftovers from Ireland and so, no cost to the budget.

        Furthermore, after some of those deaths, bliar tried to cover up the inadequacies of equipment with more lies.

        Frankly if that had been my son that had died under those conditions, I would have punched him in the face, never mind the consequences.

        Churlish?? Sheesh you’re an IDIOT!!!

        Frankly if that had b

        • 257
          Anonymous says:

          More than that Nell. I’ve been there and have the T shirt.

          Am pissed off with political parties making capital out of the armed sevices.

          We do not serve the government of the day, we serve our country and our King or Queen.

          • nell says:

            Well then you have my respect.

            But I still say that that Father was right to refuse Bliar’s hand. He was a parent!! He had lost a child to this uncaring government!! I wonder how bliar would have felt if that had been one of his sons??

            In WW1 and WW2 it was common for Minister’s sons and indeed for MP’s themselves, to serve and die in the Armed Forces. In Iraq and Afghanistan there hasn’t been a single government connection to the serving Armed Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan to my knowledge.

            Bliar and Brown have betrayed all of you who have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. They DO have blood on their hands!!!!

            They have lied repeatedly. They are not providing maximum equipment, maximum medical support and maximum compensation. They are a Failed Government!!!!

          • Duty of Care says:

            Then you know what your former mates are telling us about what’s going on.?

            What McChrystal has briefed?

            You know that unless something changes big time in terms of policy very, very soon, NATO will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and everyday that our GOVERNMENT (responsible for OUR troops) delays makes the situation worse.

            Let’s see what the head of our present government has to say next Wednesday in his long overdue statement.

          • Susie says:

            Furthermore Anon, if you’d watched that Piers Morgan film about Sir Cliff’s Barbados villa and seen photos of the Blair family enjoying his infinity pool and being waited on hand an foot by Sit Cliff’s servants in August 2003 for ONE WHOLE FUCKING MONTH, while all the while the guys were slugging it out in Iraq having to share flak jackets, fighting a war in more or less the same LandRovers that I use to get my fucking shopping at Waitrose, you’d want to take your one chance of spitting in Blair’s grinning face.

      • 359
        A Pensioner says:

        Anon: Bliar may have ordered the troops in, but they cannot obey if the order is illegal. Thats why the defence chiefs insisted in confirmation of legality in writing, and thats why Bliar had to get the Atorney General to revise his opinion from No to Yes.

    • 206
      nell says:

      I’m only sorry Alastair Campbell wasn’t there as well.

      They were both guilty of manipulating truth and lies to get us into the Iraq War.

      And they were both guilty of shamelessly harassing Dr David Kelly to his death.

      I hope it haunts them for the rest of their lives.

      But I also hope that gordon will be similarly haunted for the way he and aintbustinagut are failing our troops in Afghanistan.

      Not that that helps our troops. God Bless ‘Em.

      • 216

        Nell, to be haunted you have to be able to objectively analyse and understand your actions and the outcome of those actions: sadly I suspect McSnotty considers the past 12 years to have been a roaring socialist success

        • 246
          One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

          and the slaughter continues.

          UK soldier killed in Afghanistan

          The soldier was killed near Camp Bastion in southern Afghanistan
          A British soldier has been killed in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has announced.

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8298852.stm

          • One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

            and how we don’t care for injured

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8291969.stm

          • El Presidente says:

            So the choice is between kitting out the troops properly and buying an adequate number of helicopters or buying two shiny new aircraft carriers (for future interventions) which would save jobs in Gordon McBusts backyard. Mmmm tricky this one but does anybody know where I can get tickets to watch the launch and attend the civic reception afterwards.

    • 259
      Article 38 says:

      There’s no money in the gratitude or not of soldiers and their families. I expect Blair and Cherie are more upset about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize – after all that comes with about $1.2M…

      • 295
        nell says:

        No I’m Sorry. The Bliars tonight are engrossed in the planning of their coronation as Eu President and First Lady of Europe.

        Should we have robes of Ermine?

        What about our Crowns. Black Diamonds from South Africa do you think or maybe Emeralds from those foul mines in South America?

        Never mind the potentially fatal mining conditions that the workers in the emerald and diamond mines experience.

        Well . We, the Bliars are The Important One’s. Never mind the welfare of miners or troops.

        You just ignore it all bliar and cherie antoinette. But one day it WILL come back to bite you.

  40. 200
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    More trouble at the EU mill by the looks

    Czech leader wants treaty opt-out

    President Klaus has compared EU institutions to the old Soviet bloc
    The Eurosceptic Czech President, Vaclav Klaus, says he wants his country to have an exemption from a key EU charter before he will sign the Lisbon Treaty. Mr Klaus demanded an opt-out from the Charter of Fundamental Rights, similar to opt-outs agreed previously for the UK and Poland.
    The demand threatens a further delay over the treaty, correspondents say.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8299485.stm

    • 226
      Hradcany says:

      If the Chapter opt-out is good enough for UK and Poland, then the Czech Republic should have the same.

      Nice one, Vaclav.

      Perfect Timing.

      • 249
        Engineer says:

        If it’s good enough for the UK, Poland and the Czech Republic, isn’t it good enough for everybody else?

        Put the brakes on and renegotiate the whole treaty!

        • 264
          jgm2 says:

          Nice one. Do they bounce the Czechs and have them dig their heels in or do they re-write the constitution and force the Irish to have a best of three vote?

        • 269
          Hradcany says:

          That just the point. Any change has to be renegotiated by all 27 and the Irish are constitutionally bound to vote a third time as the Reform Treaty will, with the Czech Amendment (we want what UK and Poland got), be an amended treaty. Indeed it will have to be re-ratified by all 27.

          Heavens.

    • 228
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      The thing is; if the lisbon treaty gets killed off I believe they will slowly bring parts of it in over time to end up as it was intended anyway. If we are left having it without a referendum or plebicite at the next election it gives more weigh to proper action to get out completely giving us a chance to review what we have already and what we want by concensus. I’m still going voting UKIP right up to the wire and beyond if neccesary.

      • 241
        Ewanme says:

        Yeah darlin !!!

        You tell em **YAAWWWN**

        Do you boys ever find urselfs standin at the bar alone , fiddlin wiv ur loose change ???

        Hmm . Thought so .

        E x .

        • 279
          Roger Buckle says:

          Ewanme-I’m working actually. I’ve got an important green job.

          • Ewanme says:

            Oh , hiya Rog , petal x .

            I’ve gotta massive green job an I’m gonna pick it right now .

            Jeez . I’m really scrapin the barrell these days .

            I’m gonna retire an think of somethin .

            Bye bye E x .

    • 252
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Doesn’t it work like this:
      1) Let the people vote.
      2) they vote no.
      3) EU gives a few token gestures
      4) they vote again
      5) go back to 2 until its a yes.

  41. 203
  42. 217
    previous thread says:

    Cameron explains his policies to latest recruit to the Tory snatch squad

  43. 235
    tat says:

    i’m having anal sex tonite, back of the net you cripples.

  44. 238
    STUPIK HUNT says:

    I Notice Your Two Chums Rich And Mark arn’t On The Menu !
    Unless There Is a Public Lynching Afterwards ?

  45. 250
    Mad As Fuck 'n Pissed says:

    and now for something completely different:

    Beethoven’s 5th Symphony on potato peeler

  46. 253
    Anonymous says:

    Talking about offence and satire can some one put the question time clip, about 5 mins long, of hislop demolishing that arrogant cooper lady last night with regard to inheritence tax? I dont know how to do things like that but would really enjoy seeing it again! Thanks

    • 261
      nell says:

      I have no idea if this will work – but yvette cooper was being her usual poisonous foul self, so like her husband, on this qt clip as I copied it.

    • 268
      • 287
        One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

        how do you do this insert you tube clips I mean?

        • 292
          genghiz the kahn says:

          Cooper sounds like a throwback from Militant, 3,000 richest families, £2bn estates, all we need now is the 250 monopolies rant and we can fill in the bingo cards.

          Perhaps someone should ask her how she and Ed have arranged their estates?

      • 384

        Anyone notice Dave asking Yvette Poison; “Have the conservatives boobed?”

        Freud at work?

    • 297
      Anonymous says:

      Hislop is a little englander fascist. He should be in jail for abusing Yvette Cooper like he did.

      • 304
        Engineer says:

        Hislop had a fair point.

        Labour have been dishing out smears for 12 years. This was a straight face-to-face pointing out of a truth. Labour don’t like it when someone tells the truth, do they?

      • 308
        resurgemus says:

        Old Poopers Cooper is possibly the most vile politician in the UK, she deserves everything she gets. As she sowed so shall she reap.

        • 312
          Go Hislop! GO!!! says:

          Go for it IH. Hit that nail on the head, over and over and over.

          They DO NOT LIKE IT UP ‘EM!!!

        • 320
          Dick Scratcher says:

          Don’t worry. She’s got to fuck off back to Santa’s workshop soon – he’s missing her & he’s got lots of orders coming in soon.

  47. 260
    Engineer says:

    Talking of offence, Clarkson’s opened his mouth again….

    http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/09102009/19/jeremy-clarkson-slams-tv-bosses.html

  48. 265
    Ewanme says:

    Oooooo !!

    Get her !! I’m awaitin moderation for less .

    See ya E x .

    • 267
      Sir Michael White says:

      HERE LOVE YOU USING THE DILDO TONITE OR DO YOU WANT A REAL MAN?

      I’VE TAKEN THREE BLUEYS AND I’M READY TO GO LIKE A ROCKET.

      • 286
        Ewanme says:

        OMFG !!!

        You is soooo rude , darlin !!

        Nah , makin jam at the mo soo no rabbitin :-(

        Yeah , like a real man but you don’t measure up I don’t spose x .

        If u’ve done loadsa pills an ain’t got nowhere to go then try knockin the livin room an dinin room thro or doin some press ups in the garden ready for those shrubs you woz gonna plant .

        Failin that , petal , hone ur human spinnin-top act ready for the Britain Is Sooo Talented show .

        Oooo . My bonce is sooo fulla stuff .

        Later E x .

  49. 271
    keith chegwin says:

    can I just say that Cameron and Gideon are totally superficial Huhnes without an original thought between them. EU stooge wankers. Maggie….

    • 273
      Engineer says:

      No.

      Piss off, no refund.

    • 281
      Anonymous says:

      Sounds about right to me. Cameron and Gideon will say anything in order to get elected and nervous Conservative workers will reciprocate.

      Dave & George talk a good Tory talk but they are NOT TORIES.

      • 293
        the voice says:

        I don’t like Tories but I like you Ukip fascists even less. Labour will win next year. If they don’t therell be blood everywhere.

  50. 272
    Engineer says:

    Blimey, he’s woken up. Somebody give him his Horlicks.

  51. 276
    keith chegwin says:

    how about a swap then…Noel…..

  52. 283
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Looks like Alky Aida get everywhere

    A scientist working on the Hadron Collider “big bang” project in Switzerland has been arrested on suspicion of terror links. Al Qaeda suspect worked at Swiss nuclear lab The man, who has not been named, is one of two Algerian brothers arrested in Vienne in southeastern France on Thursday suspected of links to al-Qaeda’s north African wing.

    The European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) said the suspect had been working on an experiment in particle physics as a contractor since 2003.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20091009/twl-hadron-collider-scientist-arrested-41f21e0.html

    • 303
      Ewanme says:

      LOL !!

      They woz originally gonna call it the ‘Circular Underground Neutron Thingy’ but some killjoy renamed it .

      Recyclin x .

      E x .

      • 316
        Engineer says:

        ROFL.

        Are they renaming it ‘Circular Hadron Underground Magnetic Particle Smasher’?

        • 352

          My additions to science.

          Quark-Universe Impulse Measurer.
          Charged Hadron Observation Device.
          Baryon Laser-photometry Over Web Mediated Experiments.
          Superconducting Underground Kinetic Barrier And Laser Source

          • Doc Trough says:

            It will all end in tears. FFS they can’t even make CCTV cams work at Stockwell underground……….or can they?

          • keith chegwin says:

            I’ll swap your Charged Hadron Observation Device for a furry pencilcase

  53. 291
    the voice says:

    The opporsition to Prescident Barack Obama getting the noble peace prize is just down to one thing only RACISM. Whites don’t like black people getting prizes end of.

    • 306
      nell says:

      I presume you mean the Nobel Peace Prize?

      He had been in office 11days when nominations for this prize , closed. Please tell us – ‘What has he done at that moment in his career to justify the Award’??????

      As for Racism. I am sick of that accusation being levied everyime we complain about incompetent, inadequate, troughing Labour ministers and Members of the House of Lords.

      I have a family which encompasses Hindu’s, Jews, one Muslim and me a Christian. Funny, but we don’t judge ourselves on our religions. We judge ourselves on our commitment to family, our work ethic , our care of our children.

      Labour doesn’t give a toss for any of that!!!

    • 311
      Dick Scratcher says:

      Yeah….we are left with swimming and skiiing…and horse racing. Grrreat.

  54. 298
    How_Very_Dare_You_Brown says:

    Yes Nobel are very big in toilet tissue – so I’ve heard

    They may even get the Master of the Rolls to award the prize

  55. 299
    Anonymous says:

    Blair skewered. Brown got out by the back door before he was similiarly confronted:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/you-have-blood-on-your-hands-blair-told-1800264.html

    • 313
      Dick Scratcher says:

      He should have laid him out.

    • 365
      Hugh Janus says:

      Good for Mr Brierley. Bliar, despite his obscene wealth and his love of grandstanding on the world stage, is one of the very little people, and I suspect that most of us have scraped far better from the soles of our shoes. It is high time he was confronted by the consequences of ‘his’ war.

      I understand McBust legged it out of a back entrance.

      NuLiebour – unprincipled and cowardly.

  56. 307
    The Rt. Dishonorable Bliar, the UKs next biggest **** says:

    Hey! Trust me, – I’m a straight kinda guy!

  57. 309
    Manky Brhoon, the Grinning Gurning Loon of Londistan says:

    Ah sav’d tha’ wuld,

    an nuthn’s ma fult ye un’stn.

  58. 315
    mister smeeth says:

    I was just about to make a very different post. Then I thought who would agree.
    If you answer honestly yes then you now what I mean

  59. 317
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Why isnt DR Liam Fox serving as a reservist in the RAMC?

  60. 321
    Anonymous says:

    Brown and his two paid liars on the Telegraph, Andrew Porter and Mary Riddell, get together to concoct another load of shameless lies to wind up the readership:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html

    • 337
      Don't let reality interfere says:

      Errrr Right. So the great helmsman has looked into the future and all will be well. Shame he didn’t see ‘it’coming. But never mind. We all make mistakes, don’t we?

      Just a matter of cutting the deficit before it destroys us and then there is the little matter of the borrowing.

      I won’t worry about it.

      My future is secure in Gordon’s hands.

      All this talk of bust is a mere mirage. It’s just a bit less of a boom, perhaps.

      A blip, even.

      Where’s the lending, Gordon?

      Where are the world leading export industries we need?

      Perhaps there’s more oil in the North Sea?

      Perhaps, there are fairies at the bottom of my garden!

    • 338
      Grandma B says:

      It might bounce back a bit before Christmas, but what happens in the worse months for retailing – January and February, when the VAT also goes back up?

      Anybody with money in the bank (earning little interest) is going to buy the goodies they might want now – this month we’ve fixed the garage roof (the sun wasn’t shining, but it wasn’t raining – next month it’s the kitchen.) After that – zero spending.

    • 376
      ExEng says:

      Bounce BACK is eactly what it will do. We actually want it to bounce away from the last attempt of making an economy work with bankers alone.

      It will not bounce forward to a recovery until the boy playing with it allows others to take over.

  61. 323
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    That twat voted for these wars,
    Was trained as a Dr at our expense but just wanks about Westminster

    Shame him

    Tell the world that despite being a Dr and shadow defence Hoon he wont give up his holidays to use the skills that we paid for to hep out as a medic
    WANK STAIN!

    • 328
      Anonymous says:

      Oh stop whinging you drunken prick. I haven’t noticed you offering your services to the war effort. Is that because they don’t take pathetic, alcoholic, whining gobshites?

  62. 330
    nell says:

    Growing sensibility to offence on political debate.

    There does , of course, have to be limits.

    Why then must we put up with the likes of sp*edo who is lower even than the sewer and equal to bliar, brown and alastairc with blood on their hands.

  63. 331
    Dick Scratcher says:

    I was in B&Q earlier today. Dulux have just launched a new colour ‘Michael White’ (it’s actually shit brown).

    • 388
      Fu Dgepacker says:

      Mmm. There’s already too much of that Brown around here. Do they have something in a nice pink or custard green instead?

  64. 333
    Disco Biscuit says:

    “Taking offence”? Give it back! That’s my fence!

    Sorry, best I can do at this time of night…

  65. 335
    nell says:

    gordon says the economy will be recovered by 2010 and we shall all vote for him in large numbers.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/6286070/Britains-economy-ready-to-bounce-back-says-Gordon-Brown.html

    Bless!!! Delusion as studied by the psychoanalysts!!!!

    Night. God Bless.

    • 339
      Don't let reality interfere says:

      Night, night and pleasant dreams.

    • 373
      mondeoman says:

      Only we have another 30 weeks, or is it 29 weeks now ( time goes so fast when one is enjoying ones self!) of this delusional man and his band of crap men and women, enough is enough, just get on with you waste of space.

  66. 340
    caesars wife says:

    The imaginarium of Mr barroso is a sell out literally !
    Barry obama gets a noble peace prize , did anyone tell the noble commitee that hes running a $1.4 trillion defieciet curiously similar to the $1.4 million prize money hes just donated , it gets better as the dollar has slid there are wispers of oil moving out of the Dollar .

    I want an award for the best ruin of nations wealth , mugabe would win but the ruin must at least be in the top 3 , could call them clunkers , prize would be some sort of persoanl welath confiscation and being paraded around the streets in your underwear carrying a sign say “It was me “.

    Blair gets told he has blood on his hands , must be from all the diy hes doing in his property empire .

    Phew george gets his figures wrong , but not to worry he was only on about a piffling 8% of the debt that the ruin has made . perhaps some spad is being hung drawn and quartered as I type , or bound in a chair and made to sniff stale empty moet bottles .

    Dannatt still getting flak, I dont know why I mean even if at a so called more circumspect date of offering his services , you would still be pleased to have them . Big non story for CW .

    Another new town needed as a Uk passport is handed out every two minutes wont be long before going for a drive in the countryside and the kids play i spy based on modern architechture.

    Conference season round up, hands award to Dave , so he goes into parliament with a bit of a boost and scene 2 begins . nice to be back mr speaker , would the prime minsiter like to tell the house how many nokias were destroyed during the recess ,wether his or his aids .

    As to post and politicians wanting offensive language to be curbed , CW feels that its more newtonion rather than etonian , for every referendum renaged upon or ecnomic lie there is an equal and opposite potty mouthed reaction .
    The public have right to free speech on how there masters decide there lives , at the very basic level it counters corruption that is the only way that democracy can work . The argument seems to be on returning vicous derogatory attacks back to intelligent crtique , but the i am reminded about the faux way this goverment answers questions , “it is right to do so” , this sort of mini tort to specific questions , things never get answered or clarified .
    The ruins marr interview was classic , anyone remeber what he said other than about pain killers ?? exactly , so I dont think that until the public get the parliament back that actually works they have any right to ask Blogossphere to change . we are angry at what has been done , if the home computer hadnt been invented i would be sharpening my pitchfork and dusting off the longbow .

    we have been up against a media operation designed to keep you seperated form your elected representatives doing the job of ensuring the country is run properly , bit late to start crying now , you corrupted it , troughed the money .

    CW has some other campaigns to do , getting very upset about winter bird migrations , so will be back when satisfied were not silently killing off wildlife ecosystems , till we type again CW

  67. 349
    Dack Blog says:

    Gordon could make a killing flogging those rose-coloured specs he must be wearing. Fuck knows we all need cheering up.

  68. 358
    Anti Citizen One says:

    Almost every time Guido writes about James Macintyre an email arrives in the inbox complaining about everything from mis-spelling his name to not giving the whole truth. Once he complained bitterly that some nuance was wrong (that he hadn’t formally applied for a job with Ed Miliband, but had been considered for a SpAd job with Miliband and was furious when he discovered that his close buddy Derek Draper told Ed not to hire him – if you are really interested).

    The tone is often: “Are you going to correct that o fearless truth seeker? Or just bathe in inaccuracy as ever? Which one?”

    Macintyre’s journalism, such as it is, and Guido is in a position to verify this with documentary evidence, often amounts to little more than emailing a Labour spin doctor, and asking them have they “got any dirt”. He was not so long ago sniffing (pardon the pun) around for cocaine related dirt on Cameron. Fair enough, Guido is in no position to criticise Macintyre for muck-racking. This was the manner in which he got his famous “Obama thinks Cameron is a lightweight” line. It was fed to him.

    Macintyre has been pushing the Labour spin line that Michael Kaminski, the Tory ally in the European parliament, is some kind of anti-semitic, far-right extremist. Some have been urging Kaminski to sue the New Statesman, Kaminski tells Iain Dale in this month’s Total Politics

    What I’m facing here in the UK is not only a very disappointing standard of political debate, but very disappointing standards of journalism. Rabbi Schudrich made a statement about the allegations in this magazine. He sent them a statement and they ignored it. They didn’t print it. Rabbi Schudrich made it very clear that he didn’t want to make any political statements about me, but he wanted to make clear that he has nothing against me and does not regard me as an anti-Semite. Come on. Just recently, I came back from Israel where I was received at the top level of government. I had my statement posted on the Israeli ministry of foreign affairs. The Israeli ambassador to Brussels accepted my invitation to visit our group next week; can you imagine that the Israeli state would receive me if they had any doubts about my attitude towards the Jewish people and the state of Israel?

    Now either Kaminski or Macintyre are not telling the whole truth, and the Rabbi is in a position to settle this out right once and for all. The word is that Rabbi Schudric is going to make a definitive statement.

  69. 361
    Susie says:

    O/T but very important to sign this petition in support of President Vaclav Klaus brave stand.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/sptklaus/petition.html

    • 367
      Doc Trough says:

      Done.

      Mr Fawkes – could you maybe link to this for a few days? That would be….heroic.

  70. 366
    One flew over the No 10 bunker says:

    Sky bias this morning rather than BBC.

    The news report at 8am led with the statement bad news for hundreds of MP’s as they return to the commons on Monday and will be told to justify their expenses claims (Quite right too whatever party!!!)

    This then led in the same story, sentence and breath to the next bit by the commentator who said and I quote:

    “and in more bad news for MP’s the Tory lead in the polls has extended in the conference season”

    Unquote

    So not only bad news about the poll but the only party mentioned in the same story as expenses was the Tories. They also reviewed the Guardian who say the Tories sums don’t add up. (Yes that old cliche’ again)

    I have already made a complaint to Sky regarding this outrageous statement made by one of their most senior political commentators on the main morning news. I doubt anything will be done though but impartiality seems to being thrown to the wind as the election approaches .

    I have no problem with bad news being reported for any party INCLUDING TORIES if they screw up but this was way beyond what should be expected.

    • 375
      Dack Blog says:

      I think people go a bit overboard about the BBC. People who are blinkered about parties are, well… just blinkered. The BBC may well be biased but jumping on every nuance is just paranoia. I’ve thought the Sky coverage has been equally biased in many cases. Moreso recently. Whereas the BBC are veering more pro-Tory. Anticipating which side the butter’s on, obviously.

      • 378
        ExEng says:

        We pay for the BBC! It is unique and needs to work in a unique way and not in competition. It is a service.

        • 380
          Dack Blog says:

          I know. The public/private chestnut. But we’re talking bias, not funding, and that’s what I’m trying to be objective about. Can you imagine what it would be like to show no bias? Or ‘equal bias’? You’d need a whole new wave of lawyers, checkers – costing a fortune. Nothing live. It’s impossible. Yes there is bias I’m just saying we should keep some perspective.

  71. 368
    going mental says:

    nort much going on is there ?

  72. 369
    Giedre Barlow says:

    I really don’t care about this Gordon bloke. Is he from Manchester or summat?

    No, who I really want is tat, he makes me giddy

  73. 370
    Baroness Who? says:

    Quote of the Day

    John Humpreys Today Programme

    “…but worms don’t have nuclear weapons, do they?”

  74. 372
    Infanta of Castile says:

    I presume the autocue guy left out the words “labour and lib dem” which should have gone before MPs . That’s the only way the sentence would make sense, quite regardless of any political bias

  75. 377
    going mental says:

    there is no free speech gordons going to tax us by the word

  76. 379
    • 390
      Anonymous says:

      “Three of the former Prime Minister’s bodyguards sprang into action, ushering away a visibly shocked Mr Blair, who had earlier been criticised during the service by the Archbishop of Canterbury”

      So that’s 2 million quid well spent then.

  77. 382
  78. 383
    Down with Brown! says:

    Gordon is annoyed that the Nobel committee overlooked him. How can they all fail to have noticed that he saved the world?

  79. 386
    going mental says:

    ++++++++ breaking news++++++++++++

    Prezzas got a new job

  80. 392
    Dack Blog says:

    Why is Gordon saying the only ‘the worst offenders’ will be prosecuted re bogus expenses claims? You’re an offender or you’re not. Vary the punishment, maybe. (It’s a rhetorical question. I know it’s because it’s them and not us).

  81. 394
    Anonymous says:

    Didn’t Orwell have a term for this type of behaviour?

  82. 397
    British not Brit! says:

    Unbelievable!!! A Huhne of a moderator had censored my message saying that ‘Brit’ is an offensive term. What sort of dickhead site is this when the most foul messages are allowed and yet because I stated being called a ‘Brit’ was offensive it got banned. This Guido site is really weird.

  83. 398
    British not Brit! says:

    Oh I see now. The word similar Raki gets automatically “awaiting moderation”. Very good, so you cannot even comment on a word now because of it possibly causing offence.

  84. 399
    British not Brit! says:

    So I’ll now try ‘Iceland’ and see if that automatically gets into awaiting moderation.

    • 400
      British not Brit! says:

      ‘Iceland’ has not gone into ‘awaiting moderation’. So there we have it. There are certain words that will immediately go into moderation as long as they refer to dusky people but not if they refer to people coming from Iceland or many other countries. What a stupid politically correct site this has turned into.



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DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

Maybe if they really wanted to “decontaminate the Labour brand” with business people, they shouldn’t have totally buggered up the economy?

Just a thought.


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