Snippets from Bars
From the Fringe Guido heard a great story about Sir Michael White last night; Sir Michael was chairing a fringe event, and when it came to the Q&A section, he pointed towards the back of the hall, saying “You, the man at the back!” Who was he pointing at? The cropped haired yet nevertheless definitely feminine, Melanie Phillips.
But things got worse for the Guardian grandee. A guy was trying to ask a question, and Sir Mike said – “Yes, Ray Lewis Shaun Bailey?” Unfortunately, while the man in question was black, he certainly was not Ray Lewis. Not a mistake a politician would make…
Guido’s favourite bar tale: the worse for wear young Tory who opened the conversation with a notoriously randy senior Tory Lord thus: “who are you shagging this week?” If looks could kill…
This week? I’m sure MLud Randybollocks has more than one floosie per week. No wonder he was miffed.
Who is the “notoriously randy senior Tory Lord “?
Norman Tebbit
Lord Laidlaw, surely.
Naw, definitely Norman Tebbit when he takes his teeth out.
I don’t get it. why the picture of peter sutcliffe?
what has that rapist got to do with the tories?
oh, ofcourse, the tories are trying to rape the working class whilst they give themselves and their millionaire friends tax breaks!
now I get it.
FUCKING RAPIST SCUM TORIES YOU FUCKING INBREDS.
FUCK OFF DAVE YOU RAPIST.
You have a rapist wit, as ever tat.
TT,
It looks like someone’s medicine has worn off.
Oh, g0lly
Well, Cecil must have learnt his lesson, surely?
So when Gordon stood up at his conference and said he cares for the elderly, he didn’t mean Britain’s oldest woman, 106 year Louisa Watts.
The Standard Diary mentions Tory Michael Spencer entertaining two conference virgins
Gosh !
It’s Lord Strathclyde.
If you check Tory Bear’s blog, he names names without repeating the exact incident.
Norman Lamont of course….
I’ve just seen a clip on BBC2 (Brillo’s Conference Special) showing some youngsters sitting in the Conference Bar, surrounded by bottles of beer.
Not a good indictment.
Chris Grayling just announced.
“We will increase the price of a four pack of super strength lager by £1.33
We will more than double tax on super strength cider”
That’s the Tory party finished in Jockland then.
Naaaah. If they were targetting the Scots they’d double tax on Buckfast.
That’d fuck ‘em.
Racist twat.
Ah. Another Little Scotlander.
And what, pray, is factually incorrect about the Scot’s love affair with Buckfast? The fact that in some Scottish towns ASDA’s booze section has an entire aisle devoted to ‘tonic wines’?
Is it racist to point this out?
Indeed, I belief it has become an issue comment in the Scottish government, with Helen Liddell no less issuing statements on it. Don’t think that has been the case in England.
Frankly had to look up what on earth it was.
jgm2
I’m not Scottish but you are a racist twat.
End of.
Anon.
I refer you again to the reply given in Arkell ‘v’ Pressdram.
Also known as ‘Buckie’. The drink of preference for the schemie, ned, chav or under-age drinker in Central Scotland. The area of worst abuse is the Buckfast triangle – the area between Airdrie, Coatbridge and Larkhall. However it is rife thoughout Scotland.
Cheap, disturbingly healthy (in small doses) and the equivalent of a brick between the eyes in large ones – it has an alcohol content of 15%. It tastes like a spoonful of mud laced with a 1kg bag of sugar.
The sales reps for this muck drive Vectra’s around the rest of the country. In Central Scotland the rep drives a top of the range BMW. Make of that what you will.
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Buckfast
Mars bars and batter would raise more money.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6267060/Craz-E-Burger-Americans-embrace-1500-calorie-doughnut-burger.html
“”The fact that in some Scottish towns ASDA’s booze section has an entire aisle devoted to ‘tonic wines’?”"
For a moment there I read the above as Scottish Towns being Twinned with the Tonic Wine section in Asda.
Seen in a Scottish Borders Town ‘restaurant’ earlier this year:-
Bacon Double Cheeseburger
Bacon Double Cheeseburger Battered /Deep Fried
The Scottish version of Dignitas
jgm2
You are not listening.
You ARE a racist twat and not for the first time.
Loser.
I trust a Tory Chancellor will clobber the Scottish Whisky industry. For years Gordon bought Scottish votes with English money by refusing to increase the tax on whisky.
It will soon be payback time. It’s not as if the Jockanese vote Tory anyway, so nothing to lose.
…and Norfolk.
And Hull
Let’s resite all the prisons next to Prezza Towers – Mr. Green was banging on last week about Nimbys not wanting Wind Turbines next door, so let’s put something lovely next to him. What about one of the Nuclear generators we need to provide power in the future? That should spoil the view from the half-timbered tackfest mansion!
Beer is not illegal.
Beer is next after Smoking to ban.
First they came for the smokers…
You might not be a smoker, but most of us enjoy a drink.
Do society a favour, if you see a nanny state puritan, kill them.
Were they trowing up, running amok or having a shag against the wall?
If not then what you saw were obviously amateurs and of no interest to us.
Did they have Tartan scarves?
Always amuses me how young conservatives are expected to live like monks and nuns, but a cursory glance at any chav and chavette-infested high street on a Friday/Saturday night would seem to point to some double-standards here… remember it was Labour which introduced the 24-hour drinking licenses.
Dunnah tax me whisky, yer bawbag!
Youze kena fook off!
Im on da radge naw!!!!
Mel Phillips, That kugel is defo not worth the squirt!
Seems unlikely, would be a bit like Manchester nuking Salford
you get what they calll “battlefield” nukes – so yeh, she does want to nuke the Palestinians (dunno about Manchester maybe thats next on her list)
“she does want to nuke the Palestinians”
nothing wrong with that
How much did Sir Michael’s “K” cost him?
Nothing. He hasn’t got one. It’s just Guido’s little joke.
But he acts as if he thinks he should have one!
nope – guido definitely does not have one – his kids are all adopted.
Sick of Whitey always keeping us down.
Stop using that picture of him too.
Looks like he’s about to ask “Is it safe?”
It looks to me as if he’s saying “Pick a card; any card but don’t tell me what it is”.
Kevin Maguire on DP, can’t resist dropping the class comments at every opportunity. Why is he even on BBC? Does he get an appearance fee? How can stop it?
KM’s accent is getting more obvious, super ric freeloader trying to get with kids innit
His granda was on the Jarra March tha knaas. What accent has he got now?
I can’t tell whether he’s a Geordie or a Scouser. Possibly neither can he?
Nobody here in the north east can understand a word the fecker says. He can’t be one of ours.
Nice little story about the Jarrow March. Very unlikely to be true though, and of course it can’t be substantiated. Just like any other Mirror story.
Who gives a shit about Jarrow marchers? – it’s 2009 FFS.
One of my ancestors was an illiterate farm labourer from Dorset, but the Tolpuddle Martyrs is no reason to support Labour nearly 200 years later.
It’s encouraging that the Left keep going on about this, just proves their lack of relevance to the average Brit today.
If your fighting for workers rights, you should be wanting to cut taxes on income!
Well said A38.
He is not from Liverpool for sure!
He’s just a twat. Or worse, a fucking Mackem
He claims to be a regular drinker in South Shields. Which I very much doubt.
He’s both a Geordie and a Scouser and a cockney.
The term is a Jisscock.
Nope – you got it wrong w0g the term is “British”
Jizz for short.
you antispamite you
Kevin Maguire is well respected for his unbiased, irreverent-yet-middle-of-the-road views and for being a man of the people. He offers lively, informed comment on political issues and his views completely reflect the kind of opinions that we at the BBC think every reasonable person should have.
We completely refute any suggestion that he is a lying, spinning, toadying Brownite cheerleader or any kind of hypocrite who lives a wealthy, privileged life in media-land while pretending to be the voice of the working man.
If we needed a commentator who had amassed a fortune while purporting to represent the views of the workers, we could have Polly Toynbee on.
Not only that toynbee grew up in oneof the most bijou villages in true blue Suffolk!
Ferking hypocrtite. Maguire is just a hoon preachign to the converted, who must be wee damn few these days
That’ll be his grandad on his mothers side then?
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.jarrow/2/mb.ashx
No Maguires there.
No paternal lineage to Jarrow to be sure.
He’s a bastard in every sense of the word.
Toynbee – Marr – Maguire ‘Ring of Sin’ Exclusive.
More at the top of the hour….
Kevin Maguire would do well to shut-up. I assume his salary would put him into the top earners bracket for tax.
Man of the people? Don’t make me laugh.
I see old Maguire has got one of those wives who writes about the family.His wife is Emma Burstall and she seems to spend time writing about Maguire and the three kids (as if we are interested).One of her pieces is the vomit-inducing headline YES YOU CAN FALL IN LOVE WITH YOUR HUSBAND ALL OVER AGAIN. It’s funny how Nu-Liebor women think we are interested in them and their husbands. Another one following in the direction of talentless women is Lauren Booth.She only has to fart when lo and behold she’s produced a whole article about said fart.
Rather thought she was the fart!
Hes there to represent labour. They usually do balance out him, a tory and a libdem so thats all right then. I hear he likes the toilets too.
He should be DP’ed – although I’m afraid he might like it.
1 in the pink, 2 in the stink?
Ah. Michael White.
Where intelligent thoughts go to die.
Otherwise known as Mogadonasaurus.
Seems remarkably balanced to me considering his long term exposure to Polly.
She has probably yapped at him until he slumped into coma.
Hic.
You were “worse for wear young Tory” and I claim my azure gonk.
Oi! I’m not just an object, you know!
No but you sure got a pretty mouth.
HA HA HA good one!
Coincidentally, Guido has also made an identity mistake and posted a picture of Josef Fritzl rather than Michael White!
Guido name names…….go on you know you want to!
Journalists have their uses.
They keep politicians the second most despicable creatures on the fucking planet.
love it , aint least it aint like a morgue like labours
More hair on his mouth than his head. Not only does he talk like a c*** he looks like one too.
Pravda is biased – he’s having a laugh
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8294418.stm
Bradpole is on another planet. When the election does arrive, this debate will be very interesting, all the broadcasting companies, on line and paper media will be under the spotlight from all sides, I think I will go away until the big day, or watcg repeats of Only Fool and Horses!
Another sign of the slow lingering death throes of a finished organisation;
I will miss Woolworth’s more than I miss the soon to be extinct Labour Party.
Sorry, assumed you were talking about the BBC
I’m sure this is all very interesting.
Having taken the scalps of over 100 nazis and not a man easily upset that picture of Martin White really really sends the shivers down me.
With that white coat he’s not related to Dr Harold Shipman is he, is he shagging Polly put the kettle on because she has got to be one of the downright ugliest person I have never seen.
Are the Guardian scaring people into voting Labour.
The fear factor will be very much part of the Labour approach I would suggest, the reaction to yesterdays speech shows the twisting of facts and scare tactics in play, interetsing times ahead.
FFS the Grauniad’s circulation is so bad there’s not enough hotels in the UK they can dump it on that they have to fly big bundles out to villages in Andalucia. It cannot be scaring more people than the precious few it already is, and they vote liebore anyway. No, the only functions of the Grauniad are as echo-chamber and fig-leaf for the BBC hoons, and to carry nu liebore non-job ads, and that for not much longer.
First task of the Tories in govt is to forbid any public money being spent on job ads in the Guardian: all such should be put online on a dedicated website. That should neatly cut off the bloodflow to one organ of leftish propaganda; then start on the BBC
White should be hung like the rest of the complicit b’stards.
Talking of which – old Charles Hardw1dge has gone off on a big huff threatening LabourList with his big clunking fist lawyers – here
The guys a nutter!!!
I’ve noticed that even the brightest journalists, and I’m thinking of Guido and Fraser here, get a little bit iain-dale when discussing the tory conference. Just a little bit too excited at hobnobbing with their leaders. Guido, I thought you were there to blow things up. Could you please get on with it.
Fair point. Rather backs up Guido’s central thesis that familairity and the proximity of journalists to politicians compromises them – it is hard to go for the jugular of someone you have broken bread with / supped champagne with / with whom you are friendly. Normal service will be resumed.
Normal service will be presumed, classic Guidiot the Oaf
Just have a coffee and some ibuprofen.
yawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn.
yawn
My gnat’s cock of a son is breaking new ground in humiliating himself. Over his lunch of animal shaped pasta I informed him that Labour’s Bradshaw was calling the BBC coverage of the Tory conference ‘biased’ and ‘fawning’. Having actually compared this with Labours train crash last week I burst out in peels of laughter. Bradshaw climbs the lengthy list of Labour liars.
Young Baiter promptly burst into tears, pissed his already soiled pjs and dribbled off back to his room!
Glad to hear it old chap.
Apparently you understand torture and it’s value in suppressing an insurgency, Is that true?
Perhaps you understand thieving from hotel safes too.
yawn……………..
I think as long as you’re aware of the danger then you’re safe. I’d hate to see Lord Guido as a junior minister at transport on day.
The least I would have expected was itching powder if not gunpowder
Gaffes and whatever under stage lights are one thing, but I would prefer more funnies. I would rather hear how Melanie Phillips responded.
Why are we obsessed with idle mistakes when the real mistakes made at this conference so far, were rehearsed and discussed before hand.
Understandable though old bean, some politicians are almost human. Tories tend to have a hinterland, a back story – the Labour type don’t, they are obsessives
There used to be a rule – what goes on tour stays on tour.
Rather!
fancy a tour, darling?
Mayhaps Sir Michael thought he was addressing Baltimore Ravens Linebaker Ray Lewis?
What qualifications do you have to hold to attend one of these fringe meetings, sounds so exciting, I bet their full of VIPs, celebrities, rocket scientists, financial gurus, intellects, Sirs and Lords.
I’m in total awe. Attending one of these fringe meetings must be akin to bursting a boil on the nose so it explodes on to the bathroom mirror in a kaleidoscope of blood and snot dripping down the mirror into bowl of arm-pit hair covered in warm donkey piss.
You’ve obviously been.
How picturesque.
Steady on, you’ll have that Mark Oaten popping up any minute with talk like that.
Fwooooar!! What an image! that’s got me hard as a diamond. All it needed was some scat and I would have spunked everywhere.
Sir Michael Shite – a great advert for shoulda gone to Specsavers!
I’d rather pop up here, sounds more my cup of tea
cheers
Latvian right wing party and its alliance with the Conservitudes
Anyone seen their party emblem?
Nah?, see
for yourself.
http://www.tb.lv/
Seems familiar doesn’t it?
In a right wing nationalist way
Curious indeed. When parsed through Gimp’s sharpen filter twice and then contrast upped to maximum, it becomes a perfect swastika. Nice work for once, MB.
All the Lativan aircraft before the Soviet invasion carried Swastikas.
http://latvianaviation.com/
No worse than the EU I suppose, at least the Latvian party is elected.
Quite so.
In any case the Swastika was a symbol of peace before the Nazis hijacked it.
The logo looks like a doormat to me
You ignorant fuckwit. Latvia was using the swastika as a national symbol long before the Nazis and the recent controversies over its use in Latvian culture and the EU banning of the swastika symbol has obviously passed you by.
Try some real history instead of your Stalinist, commie, filthy, stinking, foam-flecked propaganda you leftofascist arsehole.
Master Baiter = Everything I hate about fucking socialists
Stop fucking socialists. Angles and Saxons have far prettier offspring. I get a great price on eBay for them.
MB was once in a porn movie but he only had a small part.
Here you are FUCKWIT. Even you should be able to understand this, you miserable CRETIN
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5268950.stm
Oh, and PS, you PIECE OF SHIT, I’m wearing my badge of rabid, foam-flecked Little Englander with pride. Wait and fucking see.
“The swastika design is not a Nazi symbol – it is a traditional Latvian motif from local folklore.”
“Swastikas have featured in traditional Latvian knitwear for centuries, variously known as the Thunder Cross or Fire Cross, but its feared that delegates, unfamiliar with local folklore, may take mittens decorated with swastikas amiss.”
Or use them for filthy soviet propaganda like the leftofascist fuckwit Master Baiter.
Actually I believe it’s an ancient pre-Christian symbol of harmony which has Pagan origins. It may have been adopted by Latvians but certainly did not originate there. There’s a new-age bookshop in Cecil Court (off Charing Cross Road) that sells them as medallions. God help them when the pan-european arrest warrant comes into force!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/HinduSwastika.svg
Have you had a look at the Latvian logo? Looks nothing like that at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_and_Freedom_Party
Its a very tenuous attempt at a smear. What about their policies?
The Finnish Airforce carried light blue Swastikas on a white circle. The British sold Blenheim IV bombers to the Finns in 1939-40, all of which were painted in Britain before flying off to Finland.
Except these people have this “fudged swatika” (which isn’t actually a swastika, unless you really squint) the correct way round, unlike the Nazis.
Is the the best that you can do. “Oooh this party in a foreign country that happens to share some foriegn policy aims with a party in this country and so is in a Party Block in the EU with them and this party is from a country that 70 odd years ago was overtaken and suppressed by Nazi tyranny has a symbol that if you squint looks like an reversal of a Nazi symbol?
Is that it? Meanwhile REAL fascists in downing street burn every ideal and value that our troops fought to defend in World War two against said Nazis and hand us over wholesale to a federal EU dictatorship after wrecking our economy, our society, our heritage, our Parliament and pretty much our way of life.
But a foriegn party that share SOME policy ideals with the tories has a symbol that isn’t actually a swastica and you lot read an entire “tin-hat conspiracy theory” into it!
Get a fucking life for fuck’s sake!
Good point, Mr. Ned. But please remember Master Baiter is – as his name suggests – a troll. Save your sound and fury for someone more deserving.
eh? It looks like a bloody rug.
Perhaps a piece of native-american(!) art
I got lost in there once.
> In a right wing nationalist way
How is socialism now right wing?
Its the wrong way around to be a Nazi swastika
The inflationary dragon is awakening from its long slumber…
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20603037&sid=a0m8QhfjdEG4
If it’s inflation it’s better news than deflation.
What would crucify everyone is deflation, that’s what happened in the 1930s Depression.
Deflation makes your debts grow.
Inflation makes your debts shrink.
And Gordon Brown has increased the UK’s Government Debt….I wonder why?
Deflation makes your debts grow.
Inflation makes your debts shrink.
Typical Labourite thinking. You’re Gordon Brown and I claim the 5 bob.
Here’s it is from the hard-working person’s perspective: deflation makes your savings worth more; inflation wipes them out. But as a Labourite, you won’t have any savings, anyway, as is clear from your take on the situation.
Inflation is the tax you didn’t vote for.
And as a silly little student its debt that matters to him.
Oh, and a dropping pound/printing money is a tax on anyone with any sterling.
Inflation is a transfer from savers to debtors.
Savers will demand higher interest rates to compensate, or withdraw their money from Sterling and the pound will fall and make import inflation.
It’s funny the BoE PR was “predicting” deflation but it’s pension scheme was buying all the index linked gilts it could….
Correct, inlfation is a transfer from savers to debtors, but the question is not whether inflation is good and deflation is good or inflation is bad and deflation is bad.
The point is which is preferable.
To put it in a more accessible way.
If the cure for an illness is to have an arm removed or a head removed, then with the exception of the terminally dim or suicidal, having an arm removed is preferred generally.
What an utterly fatuous comparison, MB – just what we have all learned to expect from you.
You conveniently “forget” to mention that the illness that requires amputation of either head or arm was actually caused by the Maximum Imbecile Doctor who is now prescribing the remedy: McDoom himself.
Not before you’ve already been busted though
Wanker!
Well get out of debt you stupid prick!
Deflation destroys borrowers, inflation destroys savers. What happened to Gordon’s ‘moral compass’, ‘doing the right thing’.
You really are a complete arse.
Who said I was in debt? Vote English Liberation Front-’Tolerance’ is our motto
That’s a crap motto – how about “Kill them all; God will know his own”?
The UK is heading for stagflation. Far worse than in the seventies because this time wages will be deflating rather than inflating.
Blame it on the record public and private debt built up under Labour.
54 – WELL said — VERY WELL SAID
Bullshit! You can’t have borrowers without savers in the first place! All Socialists understand is fecklessness. No wonder the country’s fucked.
freklessness? wtf is a feck – have you got one?
If you ask Master Baiter nicely he might give you one.
By their friends, ye shall know them.
Britain is going to have deflation in wages but inflation in prices of necessities like food and fuel. The worst of both worlds and the consequence of years of debt-fuelled profligacy by both govt and many of the public.
Oh, and the housing market is going to collapse and house prices crash by 50% at least so if you’re an estate agent or mortgage broker I’d advise looking for different work asap.
Perhaps, but Gordon will be keen to keep the current dead cat bounce alive until Election time, even though it will prove (literally) ruinously expensive over the long haul. The smart money’s already left the UK.
Yes. The state will net out the import-inflation and credit-deflation and claim credit for stability!
What a joke.
That’s one of the things I like about this blog. Everyone’s so cheerful.
We don’t know what’s going to happen next week, never mind over the next ten years or so. Inflation is a danger, but since we’re all talking about it, it seems reasonable to assume that the Treasury, Bank of England and prospective government might have heard too.
Master Baiter and Speedo – one of the things that tends to accompany inflation is high interest rates. Do you really want to go there?
You really are a grade a moron.
Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
I could inform you in ghreat detail as to the absolute folly & vacuous nature of your post but it would be time wasted.
Socialists – running out of other peoples money as the end game approaches.
Please do spell it out. We like being informed, and we like learning from each other.
And if it really upsets the trolls, that’s a bonus.
Seconded. Embedded links are the new reading lists.
Poor old Sir Michael. he tries hard, luv ‘im, but he’s just out of his depth as soon as he tries to walk, talk, write or fart without written instructions from a spin doctor.
I’m still puzzled by the latest controversies – I may be being stupid, but wouldn’t one expect to find beers in a bar, and champers at a bubbly party? And isn’t it permitted after a hard day’s bullshitting to knock a few back?
I seem to have drifted (not for the first time) into a confusing parallel world. I was thinking of slipping along to Mcr tonight or tomorrow to see if I could buy Guido a pint (tis only up the road) but if drinking is illegal now…
Oh and personally I think a good vintage cava beats a cheap champagne any day. Now that *is* controversial…
You’d think you’d be over the whole business of him making you look silly on Newsnight by now.
Still obviously a slow news day.
it’s a wonderful world under Labour – I am so happy
“Another tub of Largactyl over here for Sawkes, when you’ve finished with patient Brown, nursey.”
Have any of you fuckers made it down the road to ‘The Britain’s Protection’? Fucking great pub.
I beg you a pardon sir, I am not a fucker (much is it for a pint?).
Too true. Used to be the staff bar for the Hacienda back in the day.
Why did they shut Tommy Ducks? Was it because of the knickers nailed to the ceiling or was it because they stayed open all day breaking the licencing regulations?
Somebody wanted to develop the area. They bought all the surrounding property, then the pub. Planning permission was a bit slow, since many people wanted Tommy Ducks kept as it was, so one night it “fell down”. Opposition lost heart, though there was a bit of a stink about it in the local press. Some people still haven’t forgotten.
Gordon Brown assigned the crippling debts of some of the world’s largest banks to each and every one of us and our children. He freed them from their greedy misdeeds and transferred the burden onto us instead. Did he have the legitimate right to do that? Think about it for a moment…
Er, I think most of us will be up to speed with this already. And your point is?
My point is that ten years down the line, this uncomfortable little fact will become increasingly forgotten. We’ll moan about crippling levels of taxation and living in poverty but won’t remember how the situation arose. That might not be the case for you or I, but the average bloke in the street has a depressingly short memory. I don’t intend to let anyone forget all the time I still draw breath.
Brown’s tactic is to completely screw the UK economy for years to come and then try to blame it on the Tories when they get in next year and try to start clearing up the mess.
It’s called scorched earth but you won’t hear about it on the BBC.
you won’t hear about it on the BBC.
You’re right there. I never watch BBC TV or listen to any of their radio stations. Eating cold shit would be more palatable.
Let’s hope we won’t be hearing anything from the beeboids ever again.
“Now where did i put that chainsaw?” says Lord Tebbit
Boycott the ПРАВДА licence fee says:
October 7, 2009 at 1:52 pm
you won’t hear about it on the BBC.
You’re right there. I never watch BBC TV or listen to any of their radio stations. Eating cold shit would be more palatable.
It is possible to enjoy both you know.
Sadly most people aren’t up to speed with this but they will be when they really begin to pay for Brown’s misdeeds in the months and years ahead.
I think he may be referring to the law. Are the new debts heaped upon the taxpayer, by the Government actually our lawful responsibility?
I believe the principle established in international law that he may be referring to is “Odious Debt” which states that the citizens of a failed nation are liable for the debts of the defunct government only in cases where the money was borrowed and spent for their direct benefit.
Could it be argued that spending billions on an illegal war in Iraq and the bailing out of private banks, thus transferring the Bank’s liabilities onto the tax-payer, (the taxpayer being a party that was NOT involved assessing in the risk or the acceptance of a contract to step in to bail out the bankers if their private risk failed.), was NOT Government money being spent for the tax-payer’s direct benefit?
Clearly the bankers and their puppets in both parties would claim that transferring the Bankers losses onto the unwitting tax-payer was a direct benefit, as it allowed those bankers to stay afloat in order to keep lending the money back to the tax-payer. Basically the government took hundreds of billions of our pounds, gave it to the banks in order for them to eventually lend it back to us at interest.
To my way of thinking, that is a clear case of Odious Debt and we should NOT be liable for it, or the tax rises that will come to pay for it!
Perhaps some ambitious lawyer and/or Barrister could create a case against the Government?
Mr. Ned,
this is something that I just don’t understand. If there is a groundswell of opinion among the lawyers that the government’s actions are ultra vires in this and so many other respects (most notably the Lisbon Treaty adoption) then it’s not being reported in the mainstream media (how surprising). We have this utterly bizarre situation where the government is totally out-of-step with the electorate; is acting against our interests with a will, with no mandate to do so, yet no one (outside of the blogosphere) is saying a dickie bird about it!
‘Sounds like that law was implemented for the very situation we find ourselves in today. It is a fair law.
We may live in hope – but it would need bottomless pockets to fund such a lawsuit
Fawkes
Guido, shall I tell ya where little deleted posts go? Naw, you prolly couldn’t handle it
prolly, prolly, prolly
Naw, Naw, Naw
ya, ya, ya
take your meds ELF
Hello Derek? Out of work again?
Yeh, absolutely brliiant, howz you?
He’s on paternity isn’t he?
poor little fucker, having a Hunt for a dad like him
Any truth in the rumour that your latest sprog is showing an interest in Ice Dancing already.
Improve your spelling fuckwit
Awww, give him some slack; he’s getting tanked on superlager while he can still afford to.
The juvenile stuff that goes on at conferences….tut,tut!
be fair – its not ALl conferences – only the Nasty Party/SillyParty/Tory Party/Conservative and Unionist Party conference.
Anything but Labour………How unusual Sawkes……Yawn
My young daughter just told me of a news item where a 106 year old lady was being chucked out of her care home, and asked me why. I explained the MP’s have taken all the money and the top one had thrown the rest away leaving none to care for her, money she had been paying in for a big part of her life to look after her in her old age. And still are – the MP’s having dealt with the summers expenses near miss (none were even charged) by raising their extra no questions flat rate monthly food allowance from £400 to £500.
With kids, you have to explain things in terms they can easily understand you see.
there aint a daughter in you sonny
Hey piss off, I’m the only pock faced little twerp who is allowed to post poor quality Labour cockwaffle on this site!
don’t flatter yourself.
Wolverhampton Council said the home was too expensive to run. They also said they would need to spend £2m updating it and putting in en-suite’s etc,. The residents said they didn’t care about the bathroom facilities, they just wanted to stay put.
The council are not selling this home, as I understand it. They are just moving the old people somewhere else, until the home becomes financially viable to update and, I’m sure that once the work is done, they will be able to charge the new residents double what they’re getting now.
….and don’t forget – a lot of these old people have sold their homes to pay for this. It’s bloody well scandalous!
This is largely because the army of Government pen-pushers that feel that they have to justify their existence are constantly creating a barage of new rules, regulations and standards that MUST be adhered to, that even decent care homes are really struggling to keep up with them. Many of these rules are utterly barmy and are un-necessary, but they keep on coming like a flood of paper.
This sounds like the current trend of “OH NO we can keep that school maintained or cleaned”
So knock it down and build a new school.
Oh dear it was not the fault of the old school, it was the inability of the management to manage the cleaning and maintenance contracts.
The new school, which is made of glass and light weight materials, needs more cleaning and maintenance than the old. The problem just got worse.
“OH NO we can NOT keep that school maintained or cleaned”
sorry!
That Mr Grayling – he’s just the man we need to increase tax on people that drink cider . . . naughty . . . . . naughty . . . . . naughty . . . people.
They waste their money and will not sign our pledge . . . and everyone knows they beat their wives and do not work.
We must bend them over and smack their botty . . . on their bare botty . . . with their trousers pulled right down.
And then we must flog them and tsarve them and ed-yer-kate them in Noo_Lie_Bore principles.
Lovely lovely lovely Mr Grayling! He’s one of us!!
Ohhh I’m so excited!!!!
“You boy, yes you at the back who the hell are you?”
“Sir Michael White, Sir”
“Nope still dont know who you are”
http://newslion.blogspot.com/
Or: “Oh, God! It IS You, White!”
General Dannatt alleges that the orders to smear him came straight from Gordon Brown’s office.
No 10 denies this.
I believe the General.
me too – he’s got a gun.
£ 10 not forgotten for the Vulcan.
Good man Tony – I know you are a gentleman. Beautiful plane.
“I tell you we have learnt from past mistakes…. Just as you cannot spend
your way out of recession, you cannot, in a global economy, simply spend your
way through a recovery either…. losing control of public spending doesn’t help
the poor”
The Right Honourable Gordon Brown, MP, 1996. A liar, not a fighter.
Except if the recessions starts in America.
@111, does that mean if there is a recovery, he will slash spending?
Best avoid the application of logic and commonsense to the man’s meanderings, Mr. Ned. The key here is the date – 1996 – when he’d have mortgaged his right eyeball for a seat at the power table.
Labour Fiscal Policy:
1. When times are good – Tax and spend and blame Thatcher
2. When times are bad – Tax and spend and blame Thatcher
3. When it looks like things are looking up – Tax and spend and blame Thatcher
4. Repeat ad nauseam
Well, he is right, as Brown has not helped the poor. Well, except in the sense he has increased their ranks.
I would say a lot of people will believe the General, an honourable man (he looks quite different out of uniform).
If Gordon asked me I’d be a self-harmer.
Me too. Bob Ainsworth hardly comes across as much of a self-starter.
Two spark plugs go into a pub. The barman said: “Now don’t you two go starting anything.”
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(I’ll get me coat…)
A patient said to a psychiatrist, “I keep wanting to cover myself in gold paint.”
The psychiatrist said, “Sounds like you have a gilt complex.”
Yeah! I like that!
I believe the General too. What idiot would believe a word gordon says about anything?
Gen Dannat said this week that gordon lied when he told parliamnt that the Army Top Brass had said they had everything, men and equipment, that they needed in afghanistan. Dannatt said that they had told gordon they desperately needed 2000 more men and that gordon had turned their request down not once but twice.
Now because the army does not have the men it needs, the one’s in Afghanistan are having to do unacceptably long tours of duty.
Gordon Lies.
Nell, you’re devotion towards our troops is touching, but becoming a bit obsessive. There’s nowt you or I can do about this shit situation and when something is beyond your control, it’s pointless worrying over it.
But Gordon Brown told all those Labour MPs a few months ago that he was going to stop smearing people. Isn’t that why they all agreed to give him another chance?
He needs to be extremely careful when he takes a walk in the countryside
Oh I’m all fer really clamping darn on them drinkers . . Camerhoon agrees wiv me.
Why does Derek Draper post under the name “Guido Sawkes”?
Does he think he is being clever?
102 – yes
Told you before, stop trying to take my place as sad, lonely bloke who posts pro Labour prick drippings on this site! I’ll tell my mummy to have a word with your mummy!
136 – don’t flatter yourself
Derek Draper – the Where Is He Now File:
Wouldn’t this be easier?
http://www.deepblueshooting.com/department/hunting-chairs/seeland/product/seeland-shooting-stick-with-chair-and-leather-seat/428776
If only the rest of the teaset matched!
So that’s where Tony Bliar is hiding!
Entirely off topic, but I see the woman who defended herself against charges that she was a baby-killing jobsworth by waving pisspoor powerpoint charts around, Sharon Shoesmith, is apparantly suicidal after being fired on the unreasonable grounds of being unable or unwilling to do her highly paid job.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8293971.stm
“James Maurici, appearing for Ms Shoesmith, described how she was still recovering from post traumatic shock. He said her dismissal left her shocked, ruined her career and led her to thoughts of suicide. ”
I’m sure I speak for many when I say “Diddums”.
Oh the poor dear – just think what she must ‘of’ gorn through!!!
She needs a Lemsip.
oh the poor dear – just think what she must ‘of’ gone through!
If she’s truly suicidal, why doesn’t the hard-faced old shrew simply do away with herself? She really wouldn’t be missed….
Like Labour – lots of talk – no action.
I do agree that Ms. Shoesmith was negligent in her duty but, Government have made enforcible Rules for unfair dismissal and, if they were flouted, Shoesmith has every right to take the Government to the cleaners.
I don’t make mistakes.
You bragged about having a big donger, and on your wedding night Yvette turned out to have a bigger one than you.
I know this to be true. I was filming it for the what happened next round of QuestionOfSport.
Its a prelude to the inevitable compo claim. Labour loves spending our money – its in their DNA – so we’ll be footing the bill for the investigation, do-gooders with beards and sandals writing reports to each other and anything she does actually screw out of us in the end. Amazing how they can find the money for all that but not enough to make sure EVEN THE VULNERABLE KIDS THEY KNEW ABOUT are safe isn’t it?
I volunteer to push the stool on which she stands.
I’m starting a collection for her..
We’ve already got 100 bottles of paracetamol pledged.
Wot a chancer. Too suicidal to feel remorse. Not suicidal enough not to think of judicial reviews.
Shall I get my Mickey Shites out?
95 – that is a dirty smear – it was Big Bird from Sesame Street
Sawkes – you’re just another Wormtongue Labour party blog troll –
you would be better served typing up your CV and getting a real job
Labour is finished and you know it
I disagree
These smug, hypocritical lefties are a national treasure aren’t they
109 – yes
Nah..they are just a bunch of fucking idiots.
Everything Gordon Brown touches turns to shit.
No wonder Mr Oaten follows him around like a hungry dog.
coffee table under his arm and mouth wide open
Who is the most vile and repulsive out of the following:
Gordon Brown
Ed Balls
Liam Byrne
Peter Mandelson
Alistair Campbell
My vote goes to Brown. There are no words yet invented that could adequately describe just how odious and disgusting that man is.
Gordon Brown: Mandelson comes in close behind him though.
Mandlebum is always close behind!
Brown (he’s scottish isn’t he?) = Hitler (an Austrian in Germany)
Mandelson = Goebbels
Balls = Heidrich
Campbell = Bormann (and he was never seen again)
Byrne = take your pick of anonymous nonentities from history
And Balls = Martin Borman
Meddlesome definitely.
I can understand Brown as the promoted-beyond-his-ability type manager floundering and doing anything to survive another minute.
It is Mrs. Umbridge (Hazel Blears) that really gets to me.
I quote “If communities are prepared to take collective action to improve their local area, their efforts could be recognised with collective rewards from Government”
Icch. What the hell has a government got to do with incentivising locals to improve their area. What happens if they always were a good community and it comes naturally to them? It is just plain corrupt meddling.
Any unequal community funding needs to be open, and above board, and handled by the local councils.
Campbell is a seriously nasty piece of work too!
Where is gordon and his government this week ?
Oh Yes he was in N.Ireland on Monday where his talks on solving the policing problem there er Failed. So he’s still on a losing streak presumably.
And bob aintbustinagut and postman pat have gone to Afghanistan although they seem to have spent most of their time comfortably esconced in luxurious Embassy accommodation in Pakistan where they no doubt felt much safer. So I suppose that means that bob’s not planning to do anything about manpower and equipment shortages for our lads anytime soon.
The only manpower under discussion is postman pat saying he’s planning to send a couple of intelligence people to pakistan to help them coordinate against AlQeda. Not exactly going to do much to help our troops is it?
The dirty Bastard.
I think I catch his drift.
Gordon Brown farts on tv and I have just shit myself at home.
Cheers ‘just asking’.
heard you were constipated!…
An eggy sin of emission. Super!
Derek Draper (aka Guido Sawkes, Master Baiter etc) is an irrelevant little nobody.
The real cancer at the heart of Britain is the sociopath Gordon Brown who is intent on a policy of economic scorched earth in order to blame the Tories when they get in and try to clear up the mess.
Brown is playing political games, of the most damaging kind, with all our lives.
…with the never-ending help of Lord Mandleson.
I wouldn’t put a single thing past him.
Derek Draper ain’t Master Baiter. He’s too fucking stoopid. Anyway MB is a Tory troll.
Then he needs to stopped – march on Parliament NOW – 10 million people – we CAN do it.
Of Draper’s Guido Sawkes = Wreaked of a Gourd’s Piss
1. Balls
2. Mandlebum
3. Brown
4. Cambell
5, Byrne
But there’s not a fag paper between them,they are all wankers.
But only one of them is going blind so far.
That’s because he’s the biggest wanker of the lot.
What IS it about Guardian writers? Charlotte Higgins has launched an attack on Tracy Emin for daring to qestion the wisdom of the 50% tax. Apparently because she went to school she should pay 50 pence in every £1 she earns without even a murmur.
Brown’s dithering is costing lives, Labour group leader pretends to be BBC journalist (defended by Gary Elsby, no less) Tories blindside Labour on third runway and Charlotte Higgins attacks Tracy Emin over 50% tax and Mandelson announces UK goverment policy to the Koreans!
Tracey Emin is a fraud and so is Damien Hurst. Art my arse!
Quite. See today’s Alex cartoon in the Torygraph.
That may well be so. But it is interesting how quickly the Grauniad turns on her when she says: “Actually, I don’t want to have to pay 50 pence out of every £1 I earn to the government.”
Brown, Mandelson, Campbell, Balls, Byrne, they are all sociopaths and so was Tony Blair.
In fact New Labour could rightly be described as “a conspiracy of sociopaths” to take over and grievously damge Great Britain.
They’ve succeeded. Still, so long as house prices don’t crash and my car is better than my neighbours I don’t give a shit.
House affordability* crashed. Moving around the economy will be harder and the economy will suffer.
*Ratio of House prices to wages.
Thing is it doesn’t really matter to me, but it matters to the next generation, but they have been brought up and educated under Nulab. As you sow so shall ye reap!
modded. I reckon we have a labourite manning the modding office this morning!! Let’s try again .
Where is gordon and his government this week?
Oh yes he was in N.Ireland on Monday where his talks on solving the policing problem there er Failed.
And bob aintbustinagut and postman pat have gone to Afghanistan although they seem to have spent most of their time comfortably esconced in luxurious Embassy accommodation in Pakistan where they no doubt felt much safer and probably more wanted.
The only manpower they appear to have discussed out there is postman pat’s announcement that he is sending a couple of intelligence people out to Pakistan to help them coodinate against AlkyAda. I guess that means that bob’s not planning to do anything about troop or equipment shortages anytime soon then?
modded twice!!
Who is manning the modding this morning? I think it’s a closet student labourite that Guido’s left in charge whilst he’s attending the conference.
Wash your mouth out with soap and water nell, tea indeed!
190 – it’s certainly not anybody sane – sure its not yourself nell ?
He should have gone to Specsavers.
Blind rage at tory lies
When they haul Brown out next year,can we get a permanent memorial to him in Parliament Square?
The only cost will be a thick rope and a re-enforced lamp post.
Oh and perhaps some air freshener after a few days…..
If I’ve read the Lisbon Treaty correctly, and I believe I have, it will be perfectly legal to string up lying, cheating politicians by then, so be my guest.
Here are the relevant parts:
Culture 126) Article 151(5) shall be amended as follows:
(a) in paragraph 1, second subparagraph, the word “human” shall be replaced by “physical and mental” and, at the end of that subparagraph, the following shall be added: “, and any politician that the public have reasonable grounds of suspecting are guilty of cheating and lying can be strung up from public street lighting columns.”
(d) paragraph 4 shall be amended as follows: (i) in the introductory wording, the following words shall be inserted at the beginning: “By way of derogation from Article 2(5) and Article 6(a) and in accordance with Article 4(2)(k)” and the following shall be added at the end: ” and in order to meet common safety concerns a sufficient supply of the correct gauge of piano wire to safely support a dead weight not exceeding 300 kilograms will be made freely available to any member of the public requesting it at any Police station.”
Elfin Safety would object.
Kevin Maguire spotted at tory drinks reception
http://poetry.rotten.com/refreshment/
Oi!!!! wwwwwwwWhat’s going on wiv the modding today!!! Fawkes under a table somewhere?
Us here in fairyland are getting SO upset my deeres.
The Latvians did have 60,000 or so citizens in the Waffen SS during the second world war.
Under German occupation, in 1942-43, about 80,000 Latvian Jews were massacred. Latvian extermination squads and police battalions took part in the local holocaust. Several thousand of these killers and war criminals then volunteered for the SS divisions in 1944.
The director of Riga’s Jewish museum, Margers Vesterhanis has some of the names of the thugs who represented a minority but formed the basis of the SS divisions in 1944. He names several “popular” Latvian SS officers implicated in the slaughters in 1942
Your point being?
Latvian Waffen SS slaughtered Latvian Jews.
Latvian Fatherland (!) and Freedom Party cherish the Latvian Nazi Waffen SS.
The Conservitudes took umbrage at Milliband’s denunciation of the the Fatherland (!) and Freedom Party’s association with the Waffen SS. Members of Milliband’s family perished in the Warsaw Ghetto under the Nazi Waffen SS.
Conservitudes, judge them by the company they keep.
That could actually be libel Master Pryor.
Have you any actual facts/links/anything to justify the use of either the word “cherish” or “association”.
” Members of Milliband’s family perished in the Warsaw Ghetto under the Nazi Waffen SS.”
Sadly, some must have escaped.
Don’t know what that’s all about but remember Guardian ‘expert’ who looked liked he hadn’t started shaving yet managed to get in two references to the Waffen SS as regards Conservative link up with Eu dissidents. Must hang on to the revenue generated by the government non-job ads.
Again Master Baiter’s history tells not the whole story.
Compulsory service in the Waffen SS was imposed on the Latvian population by conscription in 1944. The age groups involved in this were quite broad.
In all the countries “liberated” by the Soviets in 1945 several thousand communists siezed power and imposed totalitarian regimes until the end of the 20th Century. These regimes, socialist in aspiration, were marked by state-sponsored oppression and persecution, torture, murder, show trials and the imprisonment of dissidents. No doubt had the Soviets imposed their system on Britain in 1945, communist quislings like Master Baiter would have risen in the hierarchy.
Gordon Brown has done a very good job of dragging Britain back to the post-war, Soviet dominated East European era. Why? Because he is a communist like Master Baiter. Their end to secure power is justified by any means, including lies, propaganda, persecution and endless posting on supposedly right wing blogs to demonise, characterise, discredit and undermine the dissenting viewpoint. This follows a 60 years tradition embraced by such socialist luminaries as Stalin, Cousesceau, Honicker, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh and Mao Tse Tung, all of whom used lies, state oppression and persecution, historical distortions and propaganda to destroy their political opponents.
So, the use of the pejorative, the dismissive diminutive, whether it be rabid, right-wing, Little Englander, etc., is just a linguistic tool long deployed in the communist armoury to discomfort and deceive, to suppress dissent and demonise those who oppose their “system”. The latest in Britain is for the communists to draw connections between the Tories and fascist groups, missing the sad reality that Gordon Brown’s soviet-style government is closer to fascism in reality than David Cameron’s Tories ever will be in theory.
As the election draws near and time for the thinly veiled communist extremism of Brown and his criminal gang runs out, his admirers and henchmen will get nastier, play dirtier and do anything necessary to retain power by undermining the opposition. It was the same in Hanoi in 1945 – it is the same now.
Britain never had the opportunity to purge its communist virus by living under their rule as the East Europeans did. The closest we have come is the long march of the left through our institutions in the last 60 years, a cultural revolution that has left us a majority ruled by a minority, and the excesses of Gordon Brown and his government, shortly to experience their Waterloo.
So hang on in chaps and don’t despair. The propaganda of nasty little communists like Master Baiter represents the last frantic writhing of the wounded beast in England.
Superb analysis. Applause.
Master Baiter is often wrong, don`t rise to it,he`s “only following orders”
As pointed out above, what has Socialism brought to the world;
Lenin
Stalin
Hitler
Cousesceau
Honicker
Pol Pot
Ho Chi Minh
Mao Tse Tung
Kinnock
Blair
Mandleson
Brown
Proven track record, have I missed any?!?
Shirley fucking Williams
I thought america didn’t let socialists in?
Labour really shouldn’t lecture people on their allies in Eastern Europe when they’ve had some very dubious friends there in recent times.
http://gyurcsany.freeblog.hu/Files/gyurcsany_blair_hiller.jpg
A picture of Tony Blair with Gyurcsany Ferenc, the Hungarian socialist leader who admitted that he won an election using hundreds of tricks and was recorded as saying “we have obviously been lying for the last one and a half to two years.” Gyurcsany was President of the Young Communists between 1988 and 1989.
http://www.itnsource.com/compilations/people/politicians/?lr=S31050601
Before that Labour were friends with the Hungarian socialist Prime Minister Horn Gyula who in the late 1950s personally tortured and executed those who took part in the legendary 1956 anti-Soviet Hungarian Uprising.
Oh yes and before that Labour gave an honorary knighthood to Nicolae Ceauşescu, the Romanian totalitarian thug.
Well said!
Which constituency will you be standing for?
‘English Liberation Front’ asserts there are lies posted under the handle Master Baiter but does not site any.
The fact is that the Conservitudes are in bed with fascist sympathisers.
The objective in commenting on this site is to bait dimwits like ‘English Liberation Front’ and others to display for all to see their tiny minds and their limited intellect.
That way normal people can see how stupid they themselves would look if they associated themselves with right wing dimwits.
I bet there aren’t actual real lies, just sentences that egde towards a big lie. Thats called spin.
Have you any actual facts/links/anything to justify the use of the term “fascist sympathisers” – and again you could spin your way out of what you seem to be stating – are you refering to the latvian political party?
By the way intelligent one your spelling needs looking at Site in your terms should be Cite.
Moron!!!!!.
Well when Liebour lose next year you can sod off the Russia.
Bet you won’t like it there though. They lock people like you up in mental asylums.
Bear in mind chaps, withou the sacrifices of the Russian people the war would have had a very different outcome. It is fashionable, or should I say prescribed to demonise the Russians, but it is foolish, they will be needed again to defend the western way of life, or we will be subsumed in to a caliphate.
Their sacrifices were enormous.
Unfortunately the men, women and children that perished during “The Great Patriotic War” were not rewarded by the political elite of the Soviet Union.
The bravery of “common” citizens was purged by Stalin and was forever kept fed on a diet of spin, lies and threat of the GULAG. Normal, everyday Russians are good people, I do not share the same respect for a lot of their political masters.
Has there ever been a time in British history where the previous Head of The Armed Forces accused the PM as Dannat has done today?
Is there anything – anything – that Brown has not ruined?
How far down in to the sewer does our country have to be taken by this fraudster Gordon Brown,before he is simply removed from office with immediate effect?
What will mobilise 5 million members of the British public on to the streets to get him out.
The Romanians did it and we can do it.
May 2010 is too long to wait – he is ruining the country day by day and week by week.
‘Democracy’ means rule by the people, ‘Aristocracy’ means rule by the best, I was wondering what would the polite way of saying that we are governed by the ‘worst’?
How about an Aris-ocracy. To be ruled by a bunch of arseholes.
Bogocrasy?
Faecocracy.
The word you are looking for is kakistocracy.
In other words, rule by cack – stinky brown stuff.
Kevin Maguire arrives at Conservative reception
http://poetry.rotten.com/refreshment/
That was truly awful.
I am having my luncg at my desk.
Perhaps a small warning next time?
Thanks awfully.
Is that Gordon Brown in his hands?
So THAT is what Mark Oaten looks like?
That looks like Nelson Fraser clensing hs pallet prior to indulging in a spot of arse licking
I heard that Dan Hannan was going to speak at the Tory conference,has anyone seen him?
He’s busy filling in his exes.
I thought Melanie Phillips was bull dike with knob made from left over bits after she had a new (giant) spleen grafted into her arse.
Here he is.
Is he kosher?
Anyone know who Michael White was shagging this week?
The English – out of existence.
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