Hi Dave, Party is That Way
Just slipped out of a packed Spectator party to see Fraser Nelson, the new Speccie editor, standing to attention on a blue carpet. “Where are you going?” he asks an exiting Guido. Somebody has to go report on the Telegraph party is Guido’s retort to his now satisfied smile. Bizarrely scheduled against the premier party (Guido saw Telegraph hacks at the Speccie party) it shows just how out of touch the Telegraph is with the party it once had a monopoly on reporting.
A familiar face approached as Guido exited, he extended his hand, Guido shook his hand, slurred a “hello”, and smiled. God knows what Fraser thought as his star guest, David Cameron, moved down the blue carpet towards him.
Have fun, Guido!
I’ll stop working for a while, just long enough to drink a bottle of imported Nigerian Guinness. Didn’t know about that, saw it on a trip to Tesco on Sunday.
Have fun, Guido!
I’ll stop working for a while, just long enough to drink a bottle of imported Nigerian Guinness. Didn’t know about that, saw it on a trip to Tesco on Sunday.
Can you ask Dave to express his disgust at the racist anti Muslim treatment of Laila Rouass on strictly come dancing.
Fraser Nelson is a scottish poofter
Oooh, goody goody !!
They’re partying like its 1992!
A handshake! That makes it all worthwhile doesn’t it ?
I’ve apologised. OK ?
I’m sure the expenses scandal had nothing to do with Tory coolness towards the telegraph. Nor indeed would any lasting envy or jealousy from other parties still bitter about the Telegraph and how it pays for a story. Or doesn’t.
Kill the infidels!
Can you expres your disgust for your homohobic, anti women, anti free speech rants that go on every week in every mosque in England?
Well said, Sir! Don’t forget the Jew hating, Christian stoning bit though.
Can you ask your lot to stop spouting anti British, homophobic, anti women, anti democratic rhetoric at every mosque in Britain?
You stop that ranting bint Harman first, infeedelll!
Why, or else will you stone her to death
No we will throw Nokias at the beetch, infeedell!
Keeeeel Her!
Clown
No
was there Alcohol
Lovely stuff!
This is a very threadbare story even by GF’s standards
He met Dave.
If I had a blog and was pissed and met Dave I would probably post too…
Yeah. Me too.
and that’s bloggers for you in a nutshell
Dave who ?
Fair point Expat – being in the same room as Dave got me a lot of brownie points at work and I wasn’t even worthy of a handshake.
NOT FREEBIES THAT’S ONLY FOR MP’s
If I was tanked up and had the misfortune to meet the chinless wonder, I would not be responsible for my actions.
Yeah, well it’s specially designed for you, you threadbare twat.
you may have a point there snookums – I just cannot understand why your Uncle Guido said he hates politicians only to drool over one who happens to be called Dave. Does he only hate politicins who are not tories ? Seems to be, my litle chickadee. He’s one weird guy.
There’s no hole like alcohol.
Was there alcohol at a party conference? Is the Pope Catholic??
It’s closed to islamics, don’t get all excited mate.
I wouldn’t be at all suprised – fancy a drink?
Damn. \sorry. I posted that twice. And I ain’t started on the beer yet!
Boris and Paxo. The new comedy duo.
I had tears in my eyes from laughing so much.
Boris and Paxo………… not an image I really wanted to think about………
http://www.premierfoods.co.uk/our-brands/grocery/paxo/
That’s one of the most entertaining interviews I’ve ever seen. The sooner Boris is back on the national stage full time, the better. Politics needs characters like him to keep the punters interested.
Balls and Comedy from the beast with the untamable hair.
Glory is never far away when Boris is on the job.
I love Boris!
He was good in eastenders. Ooh wasn’t he good. No. I’ve seen less woodenness
in an ark
Fitted in well, then!
Biased BBC at its worst again…..?? Finally Paxo meets his match…..
Paxo was a complete cunt – the whole BBC coverage of the first day of the conference has been about the EU.
90% of the electorate are more concerned about spending cuts than EU cunts
their concerned about Pensions now and you can hardly blame the BBC for fleet street monstering on that one
As catalogued last night (see previous post) – BBC R4 ‘The World Tonight’ 10pm spent a solid 9 minutes interviewing and waffling about ‘Europe’. And not a mention of Hague’s speech.
Guido – Anti Politics ?? Like fuck !!
brilliantly done by boris. he’s one of the few politicians who can stick it back up paxo’s arse. in the end he gave boris a 20 second freebie, so quite clear who won that one. paxo is theatre masquerading as serious politics, whereas boris is the opposite.
Surely,surely you must be kiddin’, Boris is a total joke, I wouldn’t trust him to do the weekly shop never mind run a country!
Sorry MB the total joke became mayor and runs London not bad for a total joke.
And it will all end in tears. Boris is typical accident waiting to happen, give him enough rope and he will hang himself and those around him to boot. As for London you chose him and your welcome.
What? Like Harman, Ainsworth, Mandelson, Brown, Darling, Straw, etc? THAT kind of typical accident waiting to happen?
Stick yer bendy buses up yer arse you fucking loser.
TN, Harperson’s accident did happen – but she didn’t stop…
Boris is actually doing a pretty good job in London. He is heavily hampered by a labour Government, of course, but in spite of that massive handicap, he is making good changes.
He is absolutely brilliant. He is real.
We have two many jelly mould politicians, who else would physically assault Andrew Neil on TV to get his point across.
(I know tapping someone with a finger used to be normal, but they just convicted a granny of 71 with a twisted spine of assaulting a thug who was attacking her home. I would have thought finger prodding was a reasonable use of force in a self-defence situation)
Philandering liars who advocate the use of violence (not carried out by him of course, too fat and weedy) to settle personal scores and who appear to have more than a passing resemblance to Koko the clown may good drinking partners, but do we really want them running the country?
Like that one, Boris is serious politics masquerading as theatre, and Paxo blew any reputation he might have had as a serious political commentator with his performance on Newsnight (should stick to University Challenge from now on). All getting desperate down at Al-yaheeb-the-Beeb.
Paxo might as well stick to his fishing which I believe he does,after that performance with Boris.
Why the Brown Broadcasting Corporation employ this stuffing for a turkeys arsehole I know not.
He got a undeserved reputation as a tough interviewer complements of the media,he is nothing of the sort I would imagine that many many ordinary folk would do better.
Example:- I am interviewing Gorgon:
Why Mr Brown did you not let the british people have a say in wether we hand our country to an unelected EUSSR.
Answer it was not the understood constitutional treaty it was a different one called the Lisbon Treaty.
So Mr Brown what is the difference in this treaty to the other one,Brown it provides assurances,question what assurances,reply no answers.
So mr brown you are selling this country down the river on undisclosed promises.
Brown no I am convinced that this is in the best interests of britain.
Question Mr Brown how about asking the people of britain is this their wish seeing they are 60 million against your one,you were appointed to carry out the wishes of the british people were you not.
To all you people blogging on this site I would imagine that you would have asked these simple questions and we are saying that Paxo is Gods gift what a load of cobblers,
The man is a freeloader and not a very good one at that and as for the other freeloading chancers at Pravda time they were required to seek other employment.
Finally I have no time whatsoever for freeloading arseholes who have no value added effect on this country.
BBC employing people on a contract basis stinks to high heaven of tax evasion and me me me mentality,what an institution I ask you,makes me ashamed to be british,(no correction) makes me ashamed to be party to this cynical disregard of what used to be british values.
They are of course all freelance journalists to minimise tax so getting rid of them should be easy and cheap.
OK on Uni Challege, though!
Sorry. Challenge.
Spot on. And Paxo blew it. And knew it.
paxo’s pants.
Any Labour lickspittles hiding in the Pot Plants?
Wonder what the failed Government of to-day will announce to-morrow?
Small wonder the Tories are reluctant to release any Policies at the moment. So bereft of any fresh thinking, or thinking. The Scumbags will lay claim to anything
for a headline.
Such a pity it won’t be in a Murdoch media outlet. Bwaaahh HaaaaaaHHHHHHaaaa!
Gordon will be flying out tomorrow to… err, somewhere he’s not been recently for urgent talks about.. err nobody really knows. Should be worth a headline or two on the BBC.
Just saving the world. It’s the right thing to do
retirement age increase came AFTER the Labour conference. What an amazing coincidence. Guess the data just wasn’t ready. Shame It could have gone into Brown’s long list of Labour’s debatable achievements.
Why did Newsnight have a piece with that that Obama guru about a focus group in Manchester and how they react to posh Tories. Not very well. He would have got £100,000 for that feeble insight.
Manchester 2005 election. Gerald ‘expenses’ Kaufman has a 10,000 majority. 15,800 votes. The Tories have 2,800 and are third.
That Twat could do a poll in Sunderland tomorrow night. “Dave seems too posh to vote for here.” Another £100,000 for yet more obvious insights. He’s a genius this pollster.
Dave doesn’t need to win Manchester . He needs to win back lapsed Tories from the Major years and new voters. That’s the Obama magic. Plus defecting Lib Dems , disolusioned New Labour and some of the Ukippers. It’s a battle for the marginals and the swingseats. not the entrenched heartlands. A voting intention among students or in Rugny, which is a possible Tory take on 33%ish swing, would produce better info.
Newsnight – what a load of cock.
There is a very good reason why the Chancelor chose to announce those cuts last night.
it is either :
(A) because he did not get a leak of Osborne’s speech until today,
or
(B) because it would not make good TV PR to have the entire labour conference (full of the public sector employees) booing him as he was on the platform.
or
(C) Gordon Brown was stirring things up in Northern Ireland and not in Downing Street.
What an enthralling story. You saw a man, who said four words to you, then you saw another man who said one word, then you went somewhere.
Maybe the Telegraph will run it…
The Telegraph will run it as a diary piece, several weeks hence.
The Telegraph should be renamed The Maxhastingsograph
Yeah, well, long day, lots of hospitality innit…….
He’s important you know. He’s got a gaggle of hoons following him too.
The only thing worse than having to suffer any kind of “conference” is to suffer one with a bangin’ hangover….eeooowwww (typed as quietly and gently as possible…)
Am surprised you didn’t stick around longer.
The tories must not tell these Liebour treacherous bastards anything,keep your powder dry and only come up with the blockbusters when these unspeakable arseholes can,t do anything about it.
As for Paxo the only f—-g thing he is useful for is stuffing up a turkeys arsehole.
Cameron a word of advice when you are in power you should really get to grips with this Brown Broadcasting Corporation,scrap the license tax and make this unaccountable bunch of commies stand on their own two feet against other opposition frankly the more I see of them the more it dawns on me they are a national disgrace,talk about impartial reporting they are shitting up our backs.
From now on license fee for me is a joke,won,t pay anymore.
I value the concept of a public broadcaster, but the BBC does a whole host of stuff beyond their remit. I would not scrap the telly tax, but I would cut it to about 25 quid per year. That money would pay for basic public SERVICE broadcasting that is FACTUAL (well that will kill off their AGW religion) and kick the BBC out of all other areas that it is using tax subsidies for. Let BBC World produce their internet and entertainment and sports coverage. The tax funded BBC should produce impartial, factual NEWS devoid of speculation or hype.
I absolutely agree with that aspiration. The party’s over BBC. You blew any chance of a pull this time. #Past few years have been open propaganda and bullshit starting with WTC7
If it was Brown you had shook hands with, you would have had to count your fingers. And that’s apart from any hygiene issues involved.
Of course, anyone who met Gordon Brown would either have refused to shake hands with him, or quickly used some alcohol handwash gel.
errrrr no. alcojel is only good for MSRA. You need plenty of good old soap and water for GB- sorry D&V. And D&V can kill you, as will GB- ….
If I shook hands with Brown with my right hand, then my left fist would make a powerful contact with GB1 (Gall Bladder 1, .5 cun lateral to the outer canthus of the eye in a depression on the lateral side of the orbit.)
That would secure a clean knockout.
It’s Called Doing A Jack Straw For All Cameron Knew You Could Have Been Nick Griffin !
Not at an event with badged security…
“DAVE JUST LOST MY VOTE”
I’m gutted.
One day, hopefully on Tower Bridge, along with all the other criminals who have betrayed their country.
Newsnight feature on polling intentions in Pudsey and Brighton indicated that Cameron still has work to do to convince Northern working class voters who see him as a toff.
I suspect this is a true reflection, but it is very worrying that class attittudes still feature as a significant determinant of voting intentions.
Even after all these years of New Labour we are still a nation divided by class.
Shame he didn’t mention the real working class like Bliar (Fetts),Harperson granddaughter of some Lord and could also be a relative of Cameron,Brown and the rest of the Liebour working class.
A northern old codger who was part of the vox pop group, gravely explained to the others that the reason the Tories were ahead in the polls was because the polling companies carried out there surveys in Harrods.
Bless.
Who am I to disagree with a member of the voting public? At least we now have an idea of the 27% who still vote Labour.
As an import to the north east (from the southeast) I can honestly say i know exactly who the 27% are. You could put a red rosette on Myra Hyndley and she’s get elected in places like M’Boro. How else are they going to prolong their supply of welfare benefits to keep JD Sports cheap and nasty sportswear and Greggs in business?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfDtylU8ZEA&feature=related it’s so true…
Indeed it is. It’s ingrained in their DNA. Brown could eat live babies and then kill them, bleed them, fuck them and bathe naked in their blood on live TV and they would STILL vote labour.
What labour actually does is utterly irrelevant. Most of them do not follow politics AT ALL and never watch the news and they are utterly clueless as to what is going on in the country, let alone the wider world.
They just instinctively go out and vote labour, like lemmings throwing themselves off a cliff.
Well put.
That video just about sums up the labour party.
One bloke was highly entertaining – he managed to get the usual leftwing stuff in about Eton, yachts etc! Just a NORMAL MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WAS HE?!!!!!!
LOooooooooooooooooooooOL!
This country is fucked – I dispise the Leftwing wankers in the press and those who defend Labour.
Fuck the EU, Fuck the BBC, Fuck Labour, Fuck the Lib Dems and Fuck the Stupid Hunts who let them get away with it!
That was clever I did not put ‘Hoons’ in my Text above! I mentioned smelly things that tend to be in Gordon Browns Cabinet!
You can’t mean сunts ‘cos they’re useful, and mostly not smelly. It’s only yeast infections that make them so.
Are fish made of yeast then?
Martin, relax, chill out, sit back and enjoy watching the BBC comit suicide. No way are the Tories going to let them carry on after they get to power. They know that, which is why there getting more desperate every day. The more desperate they get the more obvious it gets.
Are you some kind of oblivious nutter or what? You are concerned that class attitudes will play a part in voting patterns? Wake up, you fool. Do you not think that this board is shot through with some of the most hateful bias possible, and much of it class based? There exist any number of examples. One hoon seems to think everything the Conservatives do is good and other parties do is bad–regardless what it is. Class bias on this site is everywhere; have you not seen the incredibly fawning sycophancy towards Elizabeth Windsor on this site? Is that not indicative enough of class bias? The same people who trumpet “election now please” actually defend the unelected and then pretend that they live in a democracy. It’s astonishing that the human mind can fit such contraditions into any pattern–but they do it here all the time. Get a grip on reality. There is no democracy in Britain and there never has been.
We’re not all stupid enough to be ‘left’ or ‘right’. Or believe we live in a democracy. When you’re riddled with bias you can’t see straight. It overrides the brain.
Stupid post. One of the most stupid posts I’ve seen here. Really stupid.
People like you should fuck off to North Korea.
English Liberation Front – did you actually go to school at some time??????
This is the first time I have read posts on Guido’s blog and I am astounded at the bias and ignorance shown, not to mention the appallingly closed minds.
And don’t get me started on the grammar and punctuation!!
If it matters a jot, I am from a Midlands working class family and able to consider each item of policy put forward by each party rather than simply stating that one is great and the rest not.
Well I’ve just popped a tab of LSD 25 and fired up a David Icke DVD, so that should open mine up a bit, just to please you. ‘From a working class family’… does that make you the rejected sport, then? Not tough enough to stay the course? Sounds like it’s you’re in denial about something!
a diamond in the rough
I think anon has a point. There is a lot of misogynistic, racist, trolling, extremist garbage on here. I guess that’s the price you pay for ‘free speech’.
This was a report by Newsnight that was edited to reflect the angle Newsnight was pushing. One of the many reasons Tony Blair is disliked in the North East is that in all the time he was PM he never once went to the Miners’ Gala.
If you were called Miranda, would you want to go to a Miners Gala?
Miners Gala? Do you need CRB checking before you can ask one of the young ladies to dance?
Boris is smoking out the real tories.
Out they come blinking in the light like a bloody F1 Chief after a night with the slappers.
carefull fawkes I hear its one of those places where you can meet all sorts of conservative politicians , place is bally full of them !
So is being a politico blogger god a euphonism for a chug a lug competion ??
meanwhile over in the bunker admist the piles of cans of special brew and piazza boxes , the ruin is demanding , we need more spin ed and yvette alternate shitfs of heel clicking salutes and blowing on the ruins pottage ecnomics to make it digestable. darling who had been sleeping in the cardbox in the bunker corner , was prodded into action “whats up”darling said rubbing his eyes , “it was nae me and its all gone wrong, my love compass is pointing to manchester , we must arrange an emergency cabinet meeting in manchester immediately” . milliband was still in his shorts after Eric Pickles exchange on politics show put his hand up “cripes gordon you are the great leader I think I have a plan “. The ruin “go on” . DM “cripes youll like this one what about getting barak obama in to announce our new health care plans , ive got the graphic show him injecting £20 notes into lord winstons buttocks”
The ruin “anyone else” (pause) “right then anyone got a catchey name for it ”
EB “oh please please me me me me what about, labour a pleasant pain in the arse” . The ruin “I like it phone andrew marr and book sunday “
Yes, aren’t the Tories a “wonderful party” -very “pro-family”?
The evidence suggests otherwise: http://eotp.wordpress.com/category/conservative-party/
2nd place only to the filth of the Lib-Dems in their rapes and paedophilia. Don’t take my word for it: see the link provided .
The truth doesn’t lie.
Goin to bed now last blog honest,all these politicians who have sold us down the river to the EUSSR politburo should be in a tunbrill heading for their last showdown with the grim reaper.
They are nothing but a bunch of treasonable bastards who will be forever despised by the people of this nation.
Good Night to you all.
ill have an EU rant later in the week , although it is hard to resist one
Cameron still not talking about Europe then?
Silly, brain washed cow comes to mind.
Tankyou Davey, excellent
Yes, aren’t the Tories a “wonderful party” -very “pro-family”?
The evidence suggests otherwise: http://eotp.wordpress.com/category/conservative-party/
2nd place only to the filth of the Lib-Dems in their rapes and paedophilia. Don’t take my word for it: see the link provided .
The truth doesn’t lie.
the stupidity of you people makes me weep
Fuck off and leave the grown ups to the serious stuff you dopey poof.
71 – what is your view on the relative autonomy of the aesthetic intention ?
Well it all points to the fact that you’re a pretentious little wanker, IMHO.
79 – I agree – your opinion is humble – VERY humble. Stop doing FA and take up FE.
Note self: Never try to argue with an idiot, they only bring you down to their level.
You live and learn.
Very wise – if I come across one I will give you plenty of pror warning – in the mean time, especially look out for idiots called Fawkes.
Morning Pa3do. How’s your head? Another night spent sitting up typing a load of wank into your computer! “What is your view on the relative autonomy of the aesthetic intention?” What the fυck has that got to do with the price of chips, or anything else?
Stop doing FE and take up useful work.
Please do not read any more comments by Guido Tawkes. They have been condemned and are in the process of being deleted.
Thank you
If I asked you to knock up a gauge of koshel, what mix ratio of calciferous to sillacious matter would you use, how much hydrogen dioxide would you add, and which grade of silicon dioxide would you use? I’ll let you use millimetres rather than the Krumbein phi scale.
Twat.
stop plagerising guardian blogg posts
72 – you’re the daddy of them all labotomy brain – you depress me.
Let’s hope it leads to suicide then! A nice messy one. Do you find that your obvious, overwhelming intellectual superiority over the common herd of the rest of humanity isolates you from normal social intercourse? Funny how you have to prove it on a blog rather than in the market place of ideas – had anything published?
Fuck off then. The stupidity of socialist scum has made millions weep.
Nothing like speaking truth to power eh?
Yeah, whatever.
this is not the real humdinger
whatever, Yeah
You’re running on empty S’pedo. Time to call it a day, you’re all washed up, and you’re a total bore.
Bye bye.
I think you are suffering from a case of mistaken identity darling. Show us yer knickers.
Guido was right, you’re about as funny as a dose of the clap.
I wouldn’t know – unlike him and you I have never had the clap – would you recommend it ?
Under a new Labour inititive, if you have got crabs you can now claim for the nippers…..
Please do not read any more comments by Guido Tawkes. They have been condemned and are in the process of being deleted.
Thank you.
You usually have to have sex to get VD – which rules out our resident intellectual colossus! BTW, Tawrdrey Tawkes, if you’re in FE, howcomes you ain’t studying nuffink but posting smug shite at two in the morning every night? And what is your chosen area of study? “You” doesn’t count, as that would mean meedja studies.
Birmingham Social Services worst in the UK?
Well with stories such as Khyra Ishaq you would thinks so and hers is not the only storie in the Midlands.
Having inadvertedly researched this topic over the past 6 years through my Family Law studies I can tell you this is only the tip of the iceberg and not only in Birmingham but at EVERY social services in the UK they all have skeletons in their case study cupboard and sadly they are small vulnerable children who deserve better but never will until the system is reformed root and branch!
This is something Ed Balls promised in the wake of Baby P and long after Victoria Climbe in the same borough ( Haringay) years earlier! Balls will have more blood on his hands by the time he leaves office and for so many suffering kids to day what hope
One shinning light in Birmingham you have the best MP in Parliament on this subject and he should be supported to the full if we have any chance of making this cruelty end John Hemming MP Yardley
http://john.hemming.name/
http://forums.sundaymercury.net/viewtopic.php?p=13524#13524
In my opinion the only person in Parliament to take this subject seriously, which in this day and age is a sad enditement that he alone cares about childrens welfare in any party!!
How lovely.
have you had the clap ?
Yes. Have you had sex yet?
You have to wonder just why the Tories are sitting on the fence on the referendum issue, the vast majority of voters demand a vote on the EU.
Does it matter whether its a referendum on the constitution or continued membership of the EU political structure?
If Cameron promised a referendum regardless of what the Czechs/Poles
would do/dont do/might do then he would instantly settle the issue and clip the wings of the eurotrash, it would also mean the Tories would enjoy a massive majority and landslide at the GE.
The UK is crying out for strong leadership with clear goals to dismantle the choking stasi state and the bloated quango gravytrain, that would save many billions of pounds and it would also exterminate the eurotrash quisling collaborator shadow state that now enjoys such huge power over us.
All the UK voter wants and expects is a clear choice between openly set out political visions AND a vote on the EU whether thats on the constitution or continued memebership.
UK politics is a mess of hidden intentions and political games/machinations/scheming/ploys/tricks/secret dealings!
In a “war” which sums up the election and what is going on regarding the Lisbon Treaty, you don’t tell everybody what you are going to do before you do it.
Otherwise, you will be ambushed.
Quite so it would be like telling Adolf in advance the landings will take place at Normandy. If the BBC was as it is now then I guess the line from them would be
“so are you denying you are landing at Normandy?”
How they have fallen
We are not asking for Dave’s plans, we just want to know which side he’s on.
Hey. Thanks for nicking half my name.
and…
By the way you are completely wrong. Down your path madness lies. The best friend of Europe over the past five years has been UKIP. By splitting out the vote they make it much more likely that no referendum will ever take place and give the BBC and NuLabour a much easier target by dividing to conquer.
splitting the vote?
the vote is up for grabs cassandra, it is called ‘democracy’.
labour and gordon brown are despised and the tories have no popular support.
do try to keep up you retard.
thankyou.
On the button again Tat. Vote with your concience whilst you still have the chance.
In principle you may be right, if you believe we really live in a democracy though I am worried for you.
We use a pragmatic system, I don’t think its great, but its what we have to use for now and it is slipping further and further away from democracy towards oligarchy.
You can waste your vote with UKIP if you like, thats democracy, as you call it, and all the time a smaller number of, unelected, people take a greater level of control.
Sometimes you have to make pragmatic decisions to get what you want. If that makes me retarded so be it.
Cassandra Mk 2,
I have been posting for years using MY OWN NAME you pillock! I am using the name I was born with so WTF is your problem?
Your logic is truly misguided, TAT nailed it perfectly BTW its called DEMOCRACY for a good reason, we all share in it and a multitude of voices can be heard through the system, your way is the way of the Stalinists, one voice only.
Apologies for the name thing. My mistake, I thought you were someone else.
However, there is no need to get all uppity and mention Stalin. I am not espousing the views of Stalin, Hitler or any other dictator.
Just stating what is clear and obvious. The UKIP vote can split the Non EU voters. That has no had a good effect over the past five years and potentially we can see the same effect again.
Your appology is gladly accepted Cassandra.
Yes you are correct about the risk of a split, yes it may hurt the Tories chances of a big majority BUT the onus is wholy on the Tory high command to show us what they stand for clearly and honestly, if the Tories wanted a massive majority the answer is to answer the demands of the electorate.
The Tory party has a moral duty to be honest and upfront, the sneaky fence sitting and sly manipulations should be left to the others.
I can see your point though and its a valid fear to hold although I value open honest politics where people know fully what the party stands for above party tribal loyalty.
The Blair years gave us a bellyfull of anti democratic one voice/on message politics where we were all expected to toe the party line and trust the leadership.
IF there is a split vote between the Tories and UKIP its the Tory high command that must shoulder the blame for alienating the rank and file supporters, the vast majority of the population demand a full clear vote on the federal EU and unless Cameron bites the bullet and sets out a clear and honest line on this he is inviting a split.
How does it look to the average voter who wants to vote Tory but cannot be sure that they will abide by the voters wish for a democratic say on the EU federal integration.
The simple way to avoid a split vote is not to invite one.
BTW TAT is one of the best posters on this blog(when he isnt picking fights of course) he often nails a subject because he has no party loyalties to drag him down and that is the key here isnt it?
I’m not a CMD fan, but if I were in his Guccis right now, I’d be keeping my cards close to my chest.
What’s the point of giving everyone a quick thrill now, but allowing all the MSM and leftie business wallas to cry doom & gloom for months, plus the EU then effectively campaigning against Dave.
Best to do it with a big bang when the manifesto is released – max impact, plus noone have time to undermine.
Plus, a cunning plan needs a lot of working on to outwit these euro-nazis.
Cameron just doesn’t want to be PM.
If he did, he’d promise a referendum come what may.
And now the BBC’s reporting that the Tories’ latest vote-winning brainwave is to increase the State Pension age for men to 66 years in 2016.
So, hung Parliament, here we come and long live whichever commie tool the French and Germans slip in to thwart Blair’s aspirations to deification.
What would you prefer?
Taxes to go up, public spending to be cut, or a year on the pension age?
Medical fitness will be taken into account.
Many people do not actually want to be forced to retire.
It will help remove ageism from recruitment. Older people are more experienced, better educated and better motivated than the young.
I’d like to know why Harriet isn’t campaigning for equal retirement rights for women – ie 66 now.
I was wondering the same thing. It seems women only want SOME equality.
If memory serves me, a couple of G.E.s ago the General Populus voted GB back in because the Tories OD’d on the eu. DM is saying nowt as behind the scenes negotiations are in progress and he ain’t daft. So, shhhhh…..
That should be ‘DC’ of course….doh….
Most of the thinking electorate are well aware of the economic conditions, if not always the details. They do accept, albeit reluctantly, that strong measures are needed to address the problem. I’d sooner have a bit of honesty; we’ve had the delusion of ‘everything’s under control’ for too long.
The leftie response will be to jump up and down about how the Tories will steal your pension. The obvious answer is “OK, what are you going to do? Whack up the taxes of an already over-taxed population?”
poor people pay as a percentage of their wage packet more taxes than rich people.
so rich people will have to pay their fair share, they will have to learn to pay their own way. if they do not like it they can always fuck off elsewhere, perhaps dubai?
only fair, innit engineer?
TaT, I’d be more in favour of reducing the tax-take from the poorest, thus giving them more spending-power, more control over their own lives, and more incentive to work for a living, but realistically, the country is so broke that it probably won’t happen for a few years.
The problem with hammering the ‘rich’ is that they can afford the advice on tax mitigation measures, or they up sticks and go abroad, taking their skills and earnings with them. Better to tax them a reasonable percentage of high earnings than a high percentage of nothing-because-it’s-gone.
Dave returned to SamCam that night: “I just met Toby Maguire at the Speccie bash…”
I notice the leftist MSM led by the BBC is trying its best to promote the ‘tory splits’ meme and narrative, it seems every report is based trying to insert the simple phrases ‘tory splits/cuts’.
The BBC and labour working together against the Tories as usual.
No. They are working for their feathered nests and against anyone who ain’t in their club
Lots of people squeeling about the proposal for the pension age to go up. But the sad truth is that Gordon has wasted soooooo much money, that we have to take very drastic measures if we are to avoid national bankrupty. It was Mr Brown who took your pension money away and burden your children with debt.
Amazing stuff from Hague, in case you missed it, like the BBC.
But just a teeny bit concerned that his list of New Labour failures and transgressions did not include the erosion of civil liberties, the explosive increase in bad laws or the surveillance state. Tories very quiet on that – why? Or did I miss it?
it was in the second bit as he did say he would go on if the conference wanted him to. If he had he would have been theire all afternoon to get all the Labour screw ups in and mentioned.
Nothing to see, move along
Well the interview with Cameron on BBC Breakfast was interesting. They kept trying to get Cameron to give the details on what would be in Osborne’s speech later today. He refused to steal his colleague’s thunder. He said, well the speech will be on the BBC later won’t it? The interviewer would only say that some people may miss it because they are at work or something.
Yeah, like the Hague speech… Is it on youtube yet?
And later in the evening Dave set fire to his hand when he realised just who he had touched
Hey Dave listen to this guy, what does he know you don’t?
How to trough at Brussels ?
In his opening sentence he whines about being slandered as a nazi, and a fascist and a nationalist and how the press malign him when telling a truth, and that would never happen in Bitain. Liar he does it all the time to the b np.
The problem Nigel has in Ireland is his name and his accent. It’s like when the Grauniad started a letter-writing campagign to the US to tell ‘em not to vote for Bush.
Errrrr. Fuck off. We had this discussion in 1776. You don’t get to tell us what to do any more.
Same with the Irish. Although Farage was talking sense it was too easy for the Irish ‘YES’ contingent to pull out the imagery of the poor old down-trodden Micks being walked over by the Brits for hundreds of years.
The FACT that they’re swapping one dictator for another is just lost in the the rush to spite an Englishman.
And that fucking Monnet ‘professor’ was fucking disgrace. Nicely ‘outed’ by Farage. See, who knew that the EU was salting our academic institutions with such brain-washed ‘educators’? The degrees they award being biased by how much you sing from the party hymn-sheet.
Beautiful moment from Farage at the start of his response to her “question”. Failure to declare vested interests is a no-no even for Parish Councillors, so how this woman gets to call herself a Professor, implying some sort of education and moral standards, beggars belief. She sounds hugely over-promoted and over-paid anyway, but that’s often the way with bolshy types in academia who like the sound of their own voice.
PS How many Professors of European Studies are there on our University payroll and how soon can thet be removed? This will assist with defecit reduction and have no down-side at all.
Wasn’t it though? He spotted her straight away. Bragging about her academic ‘credentials’ for the lesser mortals in the audience.
I bet she was outraged about being questioned over her impartiality. Arguing, no doubt, that her divine message from the EU was the result of a keen brain rather than the parrotted response of a bug-eyed, brain-washed numpty.
The EU is a cult filled with chumps.
At last !
http://www.conservatives.com/News/News_stories/2009/10/Stopping_the_March_of_the_Fixed_Speed_Camera.aspx
More jam tomorrow.
Good, but shouldn’t she be keeping her powder dry as well.
Don’t bet on it the beeb will trot out every road campaigner for miles to rubbish this !
And they will drag out those environmentalists that claim that helping the motorist will kill polar bears and flood the world.
The same environmentalists that have done NOTHING to halt the destruction of ancient forests all over the world and now many species such as the Urang-utan are on the very cusp of extinction, due to their habitat being destroyed to be replaced by bio-oil plantations to feed the demand for “green fuel” from these same fucking myopic, idiotic environmentalists!
The fact is, anything that gets traffic moving, instead of sitting in jams, REDUCES carbon emissions. Having traffic lights set to stay on red too long, replacing ordinary give-way junctions with traffic lights, extending one-way systems, closing off roads to traffic altogether, all these things increase congestion and emissions.
Opening Motorways faster after accidents is a GOOD common sense idea. Watch the environmentalists hate it!
Does anyone know where I can find a replay of Cameron being interviewed by Andrew Neill on Welfare reform?
The BBC have pulled the plug on it.
Also Boris and paxo
So; “Public Service Broadcasting”?
NOT.
Well the BBC failed to get them fighting like ferrets in a sack about the EU, so they pull the interviews. It’s not good form at the BBC to show a united Tory Party.
‘No British politician would say that about me’ He says it all the time about the bn p when they try for a platform. I also noted he said it without his tongue in his cheek,
Do you not feel we are just being fed the best of a bad bunch? President Obama was credited with giving the US new hope!! Where is our Churchill of new hope?
If you want fairy-tales and “happy ever after”, read children’s literature.
This is real life. It’s messy. You have to make compromises, find the best option, accept imperfections.
Selling insurance(financial product) of course.
Oh Yes. Simples.
Can anyone explain why the BBC doesn’t seem to have realised that all their arguments against raising the retirement age to 66 in 2016 also apply in 2026? Yet the fact that it’s schedueld for 2026 anyway doesn’t seem to bother them? Non story.
Trivial little issue too – let’s have some big fuck-off policies. No DLA for alcoholics and skagheads – that’ll get the human trash round here quivering.
Tories should boycott Five Live, that shower of Celt and Northern gobshytes are so brazenly biased it’s embarrassing
I’m neither a Celt or a Northern person, just a poof. Oh, and a wanker.
Yes. Because increasing the retirement age is a vote-loser for the Tories therefore it is to be highlighted.
Hague’s five minute long list of Labour’s ‘achievements’ is a Labour vote-loser and therefore must be knocked off the news with a ‘spoiler’ announcement from Alistair Darling.
Next question.
Is that speech on youtube?
Why is it a vote loser? It was only last week that help the aged lost a court case where they were asking for peeps to work longer. Plus under the Tories scheme the pension will be indexed to the true rate of earnings and not the present government fudged rate of inflation figures.
So being told you have to work an extra year before you can get your pension is not going to cost votes?
The elderley (or soon-to-be-elderly), the ones who, in all probability weren’t the same thirty-something and forty-something fuckwits who were borrowing money hand over fist this past decade and living the life of a millionnaire on a leveraged-up hospital adminstrator’s salary are going to be full of happiness to find that they’re the ones who are having to pay to bail these jackasses out?
How about if the fucking numpties who are being protected from the full consequences of their idiot economic decisions were the ones who had to pay?
I started buying the Telegraph as a callow yoof to learn about the conflict in Chad in ’87, and me dad got addicted to it very quickly too.
Took it more or less everyday until the craven support for Blair’s bloodlust in Iraq, and now with the anti Tory stance I wouldn’t use it for bog paper.
I prefer make it up Maguire’s rag for me toilet duties to be fair
Barclay bruvvers…Simon Heffer…..Andrew Pierce……….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I find the telegraph balanced. After all they have Janet Daley who was berating the tories yesterday. As for the Iraq attack-many people were taken in by those lies and deceptions. They gave coverage of the debate about the Iraq enquiry of which Hague was outstanding as usual. IMO.
Guido, I’ll tell you what Nelson Fraser was thinking:’ Shall I lick his boots or just prostrate myself before him?’.
So Gordon Brown’s “no more boom and bust” turned out to be nonsense? He is being beaten by UKIP in the last election?
Hmmm Brown has been exposed as a liar for breaking his explicit promise for a referendum? Blair looks set to weasel his way into being European President?
I think the big story here is “Tory split over Europe”
To any who say we’re biased here at the BBC it’s not true, we have other angles to cover it, borrowing from our recent coverage in America we can just swap Obama for Blair – “Is it racist to oppose this man’s policies?”, “Is he superman?”
The articles write themselves. Remember to pay you license fee.
Don’t forget one of Blairs election promises was not only to be whiter than white, but be seen to be whiter than white. Except when it comes to the big black boxes on his expense claims, that is.
Brillo was rubbish last night trying to make a story where there isn’t one and not letting it go. If the Lisbon Treaty is ratified when the Tories get to power, they’ll deal with the situation then. They cannot possibly say what they will do before then as they do not know the legal and constitutional position. Brillo did himself damage by insisting they tell him now what they are going to do.
Has anyone else noticed how all the Labour biased reporters are working on the premise that Cameron will definately be the next prime minister.
It would be nice if they pressed Gordon Brown for answers as vigorously as they pursue the Tories.
At least Cameron answers questions as best he can and actually meets members of the public.
Also, how many of the Labour front bench are millionaires.
These reporters are all tax avoiding, partisan chumps.
Cameron is not a leader. He has some outfit pulling his strings and we are merely the stage. If they don’t win the election it will be entirely his fault.
The posts just get more bizarre
Aww, how sweet. The terror of the political class is star-struck.
Ohmygod, darling, HOW exciting!
So all the reporters and editors in the BBC simultaneously decided that the main story from day one of the Conservative Conference was a damaging EU split? Based on what? Boris (after much harrassment form Paxman) that if the Lisbon Treaty is passed into law when the Tories take power, then Cameron and Hague will need to decide upon a way to ensure that the publics views on Europe are properly represented.
Seems pretty reasonable to me – unless you don’t believe that the public views should be taken into account.
Boris couldn’t have been more supportive of Party Policy. As he tried to say to Paxman, the time for a referendum is now, and there is little point in committing to a referendum on Lisbon once it is passed into law. I am sure that the BBC would be the first to make that point.
“here is little point in committing to a referendum on Lisbon once it is passed into law. I am sure that the BBC would be the first to make that point.”
They already have to a member of the public in Manchester in a vox-pop that stated he wanted a referendum on that treaty even if it is ratified. That was the exact line the BBC reporter came back with. what is the point? waste of money? etc…
Who was the Pravda lady boy whos shrill metrosexual voice could not hide the fact he hated Cameron during the interview this morning?
“What if you are someone who thinks that public spending should not be cut, should they vote Conservative?”
An outrageous question – did said metrosexual Pravda luvvie ask any shrill questions of Labour grandees last week?
No he did not – he sat there at their feet gazing up at them whilst the monologue was delivered to the Nation.
The BBC is an outrage.
I am not voting Tory, but I hope they destroy the BBC when they get in power.
Why not? – just interested as you seem to have all the right credentials to vote Tory.
DC has misled us. His false posturing over Lisbon did it for me.
Its either UKIP or a spoilt ballot for me.
Thank you for your interest.
Good man/woman!
Agreed. I will not only vote UKIP but shall donate and walk the streets for UKIP unless Dave comes to lead this country and serve our wishes.
Aarse have a poll on lisbon and last night it was 90% against. The Mail on-line poll was 85% yesterday against and for a referendum.
If you mean the ‘Today’ programme on Radio 4 at about 8-15am this morning, that was Evan Davis.
I think he was trying to ask searching questions. He didn’t interrupt excessively, but allowed Cameron to put his point of view. “Why should we vote Conservative” is a fair enough question, given that the conservatives have just announced possible changes to state pension provision. Cameron’s responses also seemed reasonable, and he was allowed to put his points across. Why Davis dragged Foxhunting into the debate I’m not sure, that smacked of leftie desperation.
Are the tories advocating the repeal of the Human Rights Act? If so why?
They are and it is because the way the Human Rights act has been implemented as a criminal and terrorists charter.
They want to replace it with a bill of rights that enshrines our ancient and fundamental liberties in law.
I would need to see the text before I gave full and unqualified support for such a move. IF there are weasel clauses that give the EU supremacy over the Sovereign Parliament, then I would vote UKIP.
IF Parliamentary sovereignty is enshrined in this bill of rights, and our liberties and “innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers” then that would be a good thing.
So what sections of the existing act are problematic?
Morning Ned and Delboy,
Just made a trip back from Newcastle airport through driving rain trying to listen to R4, didn’t hear anything about this, are their any links?
We should have means tested legal aid back. No body can afford legal advocacy except those just off the back of a lorry or the wealthy. There is a huge disparity of access to justice in this country. All most have is the Citizens Advice Bureau-who are overwhelmed by immigration matters and anything else they can’t really help with. Its a disgrace.
We were fobbed off with replacement advice from the Legal Services Commission – basically free telephone advice to replace high street solicitors. Try using that in court!
Delboy-That’s right so how can we have a democracy without access to justice? I will give you an example: The case of the mother and child whose lives were lost as a direct result of inaction by police and local services of not dealing with appalling anti-social behaviour. – That is a case where, had access to a solicitor and legal aid for ther poor been available, she may have considered an injunction or at best taken the police and council to court for breach of S17 Crime and disorder Act 1998 and failing in their duty of care.
Mr Ned,
A British Bill of Rights will be subservient to the ECHR legislation.
That is the Law.
A Conservative British Bill of Rights is a fig leaf to cover their complete impotence in removing ECHR – they could remove it, but lack the courage & the committment to do so.
It would be messy, but Europe would eventually fold & allow us to extracate oursleves.
Isn’t there a big difference here though anon?
Zanulabs HRA gives people protection from other people but NOT from the government. eg You have a right to privacy – UNLESS the law says you don’t. Zanu’s been building superhighways through our human rights since they brought it in.
The ECHR is more protective of human rights including those broken by the government. In Zanu’s case, they’ve broken there own human rights law AND the rights given to us by the ECHR.
Perhaps the tories understand this and wish to make something more robust?
I live in hope.
This is why I need to read the text.
As for which parts of the human rights act are problematic?
Well common sense would dictate that any part that grants full human rights to convicted criminals should be removed for a start.
If you commit a crime, then you should only have the right to a roof and three square meals a day. NOTHING MORE.
IF you want to keep your full human rights, then do NOT commit a crime.
In my version of a bill of rights, then if you commit a crime then you would be knowingly and with full consideration be accepting in full the removal of your rights for the term of your prison sentence, (or house arrest if a minor crime until such time as the number of prison places has risen enough to accommodate all criminals warranting a custodial sentence)
These people CHOSE to commit their crime, so they are also willingly choosing to forfeit their rights.
But there’s a problem right there Ned. Our human rights allow us to do certain things with the protection of the law. Zanu have driven a truck through those rights and made laws that now criminilise the decent citizen.
Under your rules above, Decent people will be left without rights, all because our laws have been written by Megamorons for the last twelve years.
A decent well thought out Bill of rights would be great. If the current laws fall foul of those rights they should be laid to rest, if they don’t, they should be strengthened.
As you say, we’ll have to wait and see what they’re proposing.
So why wouldn’t Gordon let the army take another 2,000 troops to Afghanistan?
If the Army have 2,000 soldiers kicking their heels on full pay in Catterick and Aldershot, it ain’t exactly going to cost Gordon very much is it.
The real losers would be the 2,000 soldiers and their families and since when did Gordon care for them?
There are about 9000 troops in Afghaistan at the moment. The MoD policy is that they will do a 6 month tour and have a 2 year gap before re-deploying to theatre. that means that we need 45,000 troops to cover the basic requirement out of a total trained force of 100,000
But
we only have around 28,000 infantry which means that assuming that the infantry was to be utilised at maximum efficiency, then we could deploy 5,600 infantry soldiers at any one time.
We are desperately short of trained soldierswe being around 5,000 short of full manning . The casualty rate is unsustainable – and we are losing the equivalent of more than a full battalion of infanty every year.
Traininig times are being cut – the 6 month requirement has been cut to 6 weeks for the Royal Anglians – 70% of which have not been to Afghanistan before. Tour intervals have been cut – they were last in theatre 18 months ago, and they have’t operated as unit in the intervening period.
This will cost lives.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208426/Troops-sent-Helmand-Afghanistan-just-6-weeks-training.html
But why would the general ask Gordon to send another 2,000 troops if they were not available? Also wouldn’t the extra 2.000 make the the present 9000 a lot safer, thus saving lives?
Also, why did Gordoom decline to accept the request by the military for a specific number of extra troops to do the job. Gordoom has been telling us that the military have always been given what they asked for to do the job. General Dannatt says not. Who do you believe?
Most of the country has little experience of General Dannett – but have heaps of experience of Brown.
Word association; Army General – Diligence, honour to the country, straight-talking. Brown – Incompetent, Liar, circuitous. Seems a simple answer to me.
Here’s the link to the Sun’s story.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/2669655/Ex-Army-boss-General-Sir-Richard-Dannatt-in-blast-at-pathetic-ministers.html
Reserves.
The Argentinians would kick off if we committed any more troops & equipment to Afghanistan.
They know our minimum reserve strength requirement to deter them – once the threshold of reasonable response had been breached Argentina would move on the Falklands.
So Gordon knows better about military matters than the general?
Isn’t it lovely how the extra year Osbourne is telling everyone they must work now is precisely 12 months longer than he’s ever worked in his life. In what way is that different to being lectured by Bruin on courage, being told which laws to follow by baroness scotland, or to be honest by Blair?
he wouldn’t have to come up with such anti-working class madcap shemes if it were not for gordon brown’s useless handling of the country’s accounts, innit?
the tories stupid policies are a product of brown’s mismanagement.
oh and I note that dannat has stated gordon brown refused repeated requests for extra troops in Afghanistan.
is the same gordon brown who said he would take military advice?
yes it fucking is.
gordon brown lies again, but this time his lies have cost brave mens’ lives.
brown is scum.
So then, stupid begets stupider?
don’t worry del boy, you are still the stupidest.
well done!
Are you my dad then?
He’s always been great with his right hand and a turkey baster.
tat..you’re right of course..but, honestly,how can the extra year before state pension qualification an ‘anti-working class madcap scheme’?
Aren’t all people who work..err..’working class’? Is it only the old fashioned class war definition of working class who will be affected?
George forgets that the old age pension is not a freebie. It is a compulsory state run scheme and the premium is docked from all workers salaries by law throughout their working lives. If you have a shortfall in premiums required then the state writes to you with the options of either topping up your contributions or taking a reduced pension payout.
People having paid their full contributions should have a good case to sue george from reneging on the payout.
She was fit, that Sue George.
The trouble is that the state pension is a con. The money docked from your wages doesn’t go into a seperate Pension Fund, it goes into the general pot. In effect, it’s just another tax, and always has been. Technically, it’s a Ponzi scheme, the same as Bernie Madoff was running, but given legitimacy by national law. You have no “rights” other than those the government decide.
“People having paid their full contributions should have a good case to sue george from reneging on the payout.”
Not if the law was changed through the commons.
Any claim to contract would be frustrated in law.
Retirement age will be 75 before too long.
FFS, who will bridge the Gap in Finances otherwise.
Double pay and another free Company Car for all Immigrants on the Social
What a striking contrast between the grey depressing Labour Conference of yesterday’s men/women and the Conservative Conference.
go easy on the superskunk, eh gran?
you must be stoned. and at this time of the morning? fucking hell gran!
let us be quite honest: this is the most anti populist conference in the history of politics.
we are currently witnessing david cameron and gideon osborne throwing votes straight into the fucking skip. work harder pay more tax and have our services cut?
FUCK OFF DAVE YOU USELESS C’UNT.
“let’s go to work” says dave.
which rather begs the question: if they are just going to work now then what the fuck have the tories been doing for the last twelve years?
useless in opposition; useless in government.
Back on form tat…welcome home.
Perhaps the best measure of all, as a measure of how might you govern our green and pleasant land. How effective have you been in opposition? (sound a bit Paxonian?) Not very good at all, by all accounts.
My point? That care in the community didn’t work, as you (and twat) prove so admirably.
oh dear, oh dear, oh dear,
poor old tat can see his gravy train coming off the rails and he might actually have to go and find a job in the real world until he is 66.
12 years of Labour have increased government spending and debt to record levels.
Unemployment has increased under every Labour government and especially under this one.
this government takes a greater share of tax payers money than any other government in history.
There are more labour cabinet minister millionaires than any previous labour cabinet (and most were not rich before accepting office)
blog trolls like tat and media apologists like Toynbee, Robinson, Marr, McGuire, White still think Gordon has run the economy well and has all the answers.
live well while you can
not my gravy train numbnuts. never voted for them. never.
earns me own pocket money I does.
dear oh dearie me mcgroom, let go of all your tribal hatred and do the right thing by the country: vote independent.
and for you to falsely accuse the great and righteous thick as thieves of such tribalism displays two things:
1) you are a lying c’unt and a tory troll.
2) the tories are scared of the great and heroic thick as thieves.
you could ofcourse just be a loudmouthed dimwit who is new here.
yes, I am warming to the last option because you do seem to be exceptionally retarded.
tat (or much better named and described, twat) is the most knowledgable poster in the universe (not) and should not be contradicted, or (s)he will shed a tirade of invective on all our houses.
(S)he knows a lot about boring, as (s)he does it so well.
none so blind as will not see
or
in your case shut up or talk sense
WHAT IS YOUR POINT – CHUMP
Don’t do superskunk tat, mine’s a Scotch and Canada Dry, if you’re paying – Just to clarify my uncontroversial (as I thought) remark, I thought the Tory Conference seems to be a much more cheerful place than Brighton.
Yes, it is a problem for the Tories that they have to try and be honest about our economic problems. Will the voters simply vote for their own self-interests? – I don’t know, but I suppose the Tories have to take that risk. Actually, what a poisoned challice to be in Government for the next 5 years.
I hate to say this, but I still haven’t worked out your voting intentions. Do you swing both ways?
They have been in opposition TaT, or didn’t you notice?
True the tory Conference is totally Black. As Black as Hell
Err.. have I missed something?
yes, a brain.
Paxo should be stuffed up a turkey’s backside.
Impossible. You couldn’t get him to shut up long enough.
how long do you think you can shut up for del boy?
you boring fucker.
Praise indeed, coming from you.
BORING!
Thanks again.
Heston Blumenthal needs a new recipe – sounds like you just gave him one
Arsehole stuffing ala turkey bum
Thought crimes against dumb animals, and against turkeys as well!
Boultons interviews with political leaders.
Last week he interviews our Glorious Leader? Brown loses rag and shows his true colours as a shifty, lying,cheating dullard.Boulton and Brown glare at each other.
Cut to Cameron,one week later. Boulton is smiling..Cameron is smiling. Boulton asks questions..Cameron answers ,clearly. They are both still smiling.
Spot the difference?
It’s a Murdoch edict!
Labour are lost without the SUN. Magic.
George’s cunning plan on pensions is overtly sexist. Men retire @ 66 and women @ 60.
How does one go about getting a sex change recognised in law?
suggest you ring Yvette
I thought the retirement age was being levelled out to 63 anyway? This saves a bit of cash because more women make it to 63 than men who make it to 63.
If they’re going to level it out at 66 PLUS make sure the civil service can’t claim theirs until they’re 66 then they might really save some money. This might be the first step on that path.
Get the general population’s retirement age to 66 and then pull the retire at 55 on full pension rug from under the bedwetters, boxtickers and bastards that are the bane of our lives.
Was the old 65/60 split sexist as well? Was the change to 65/63 split sexist too?
It is. Some dude took the government to court over the fact that his neighbour got her winer fuel allowance at 60 while he was 53 and got nothing. ECJ agreed and rather than pay up the government decided to gradually equal the retrement age. Harriet of course is all up for this….
Labour are very weak on this one: they destroyed pensions, put in place the raising of the retirement age and have leaking hints for ages that the retirement age may have to rise to 70. Cue amnesia from the BBC
Unfortunately labour see no difference between a 65 year-old MP filling out expense claims and a 65 year-old brickie shinning up a ladder, driving a lorry, or working in a factory.
Equality! Luvvly Jubbly!
How’s that one escaped Harriet?
Cos She’s the minister for women, not the minister for equality. In fact, if they wanted someone for the job of minister for equality, HarmMen is the last ‘person’ you’d pick. Typical Zanu.
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