+++ Marr Asks Dave “Are You Worth £30 Million?”
Dave tells him “absolutely ridiculous”.
Dave handled it far more deftly than Gordon took the pill popping question…
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Max Clifford says…
“Most people want to read nasty things about people, not nice things.”
DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:
Maybe if they really wanted to “decontaminate the Labour brand” with business people, they shouldn’t have totally buggered up the economy?
Just a thought.
Bloody shame Dave didn’t ask Marr what he’s worth
Or about his love child
“Because I’m worth it!”
As for Marr, he lives in a lovely house, quite near me in fact!
Guido, have you seen the Sunday Times story about BBC tax dodgers setting themselves up as contractors to duck income tax, creating shell companies so they can bill the BBC for their work? They’re all at it!
He should have asked Polly what she is worth as well.
Marr let him off the hook by not answerign atall — BBC bias again.
the Czech president today sent a message that in a sense was telling the Tories not to depend on a Czech delay. He said that after today’s referendum “there will never be another referendum in Europe”. He was then asked whether he had a message for Britain. “I am afraid, that the people of Britain should have been doing something really much earlier and not just now, too late, saying something and waiting for my decision”.
That sounds like a politician who knows he’ll be signing soon. We shall see. If his words are borne out it leaves David Cameron with an awkward question to answer. What will he do if all 27 countries have ratified the treaty? Some in his party, like the Bruges Group, want him to commit to a “retrospective referendum”. Other politicians will call on him to accept the treaty as “a fact of life” or at least to come clear about where he stands.
He will not answer while the Czechs are still deciding, but that may not be for much longer.
and how much tax the wankers at the Guardian family of companies avoided in last 5 years
For the chex it’ll all come down to money. How much will the EU give them to sign the treaty before newlabour give way to the tories. They are in the perfect position to blackmail the EU.
Let’s face, it the Irish opted for the thought of more money and various anaemic promises. What people will do for money?! Depressing isn’t it? Money does talk. The human species is depressingly dreadful.
I can confirm that, beyond doubt, Dave is not worth £30m. In fact he is not worth 30p. Whether he has assets of £30m is another matter altogether.
Half of fuck all
I think that you are getting confused. ‘Half of fuck all’ is, I believe, Little George’s pet name in the shadow cabinet.
The “Lisbon Treaty” is worth nothing: it is a Scrap of Paper.
If we are worth anything, then whatever “government” is “in power” in the UK will tear it up. Along with Rome, the SEA, Maastricht and Nice.
The EU can be “twittered” that it has been “voluntarily withdrawn” from the UK. With our consent. So it is not rape.
Not yet, unless the Brusselsbastards resist by force.
WE don’t need no referendum…
Fascist – leave them lands alone….
(Another brick in the wall)
Hey!!! Fascist!!!!
Leave them lands alone !!!!
(Another brick in the wall)
Dave should have said “Is the BBC worth £3.5 billion a year of taxpayers money?”
Why ? He’s already said the licence fee and BBC are safe with him.
You want him to lie about that and Lisbon ?
Like Dave, Marr would have had to duck that one.
Dave makes everything clear:
“As for Marr, he lives in a lovely house, quite near me in fact!”
Destroy it.
Give me the postcode and it shall be done.
“Guido, have you seen the Sunday Times story about BBC tax dodgers setting themselves up as contractors to duck income tax, creating shell companies so they can bill the BBC for their work? They’re all at it!”
If they are former employees, they are probably strong candidates for being caught by IR35.
HMRC have already been round and given them a very stern talking to.
Pah. IR35 was only ever about clobbering I.T. Freelancers. Ditto S660a. The BBC fellow-travellers will not be touched.
BBC tax fuckmupery: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6259112/BBC-presenters-set-up-companies-to-avoid-50-per-cent-tax-rate.html
It says Fiona Bruce (the rancid old prostitute who gets £millions of the extortionate TV tax from the poor for reading an fucking autocue) has set up a company called ‘Paradox’ to avoid tax (and probably to sell her soiled pants to wankers).
These fucking slimy Huhne bastards at the BBC are the enemy of the people. The should be wasted.
boring! banking personnel have been doing that since the 80s.
Typical of the BBC to take 30 years to catch up.
the reply thing has gone wonky – answer was to the “working as contractors jab
Absulutely ridiculous isn’t no unless Guido is leaving out the far more important straight denial ?
good point – this Guido won’t ignore it.
We are all a-tremble.
you will be “trembling” come the TV debate when the clunking fist takes him up on it.
When or if? Your faith in Brown’s straightforwardness is touching.
I have seen a u tube clip of El Gordo shaking has he got some sort of illness, he should be used to be used to giving speeches in the H.P. after over twenty years.
The clunking fist? What with those nails?!
Is that you charles??? I thought you had pissed off back to the BBC where your comments were more gracefully accepted as fact rather than fairytales..
What nails?
All I can see are bloodied stumps
Oh dear the cast iron guarentee was left out in the rain and has rusted
“Today, I will give this cast-iron guarantee: If I become PM, a Conservative government will hold a referendum on any EU treaty that emerges from these negotiations.”
David Cameron 26 Sep 2007
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/eu_referendum/article273758.ece
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So what happened to your Cast-Iron Guarantee Dave?
The cost of the ‘Sun’ ‘support’?
Probably the same sort of guarantee B’Liar gave over PR over12 years ago.
Crush Lisbon, crush the EU.
Look, I know it’s disappointing for the UKIPers and NuLab but the British public are not stupid. They understand the following straightforward points:
1) when Lisbon is ratified, it will have been on Gordon Brown’s watch
2) the Tories would have had a referendum, Labour didn’t, end of
3) it is the PM of the day who has betrayed the people, not the leader of the opposition (the clues are in the titles)
4) the UK isn’t going to withdraw from the EU anytime soon, anyone who pretends it’s a prospect isn’t a serious politician
5) the least Europhile of the prospective parties of government at the next GE will be the Tories
6) Blair as President of Europ isn’t going to be blamed on Cameron
My sage advice to any Tory politician who is asked a question on the Lisbon referendum this week: tell the interview to fuck off and ask Gordon Brown why we aren’t having a referendum now whilst it can still have an effect; when we have an answer to that question that will satisfy the electorate, then we can move onto the post-ratification question.
It’s nothing to do with blame, blame achieves nothing and is a looking backwards exercise. It is about the future Sovereignty of Great Britain and the British people.
Vast majority of Tory members oppose position on Lisbon Treaty, poll reveals
The poll of 2,205 Tory members by the ConservativeHome.com website found that more than eight in 10 want him to call a referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon even if it has been approved by the next general election – a pledge he is refusing to make.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-faces-revolt-on-europe-1797042.html
But they are all UKIP or Labour, right ?
it’s the little party line pricks, shills and drones who are trying to sell Britain out to Europe again with Clarke giving them the spin
Oh please! The majority of Tory members are so far into their dotage that if you asked them about European policy they would complain about the Normans. And, of course, a poll by a website is hardly a representative sample. Lets oppose Lisbon by all means but relying on this sort of crap to make a point just weakens the argument.
are they Conservatives at Conservativehome.com?
or is it patently obvious that trying to blame the hugely unpopular Lisbon “policy” on UKIP or Labour is yet more cowardice and spin from the euro-weasels
Good point, Rexel 56.
Not a lot!
your wimp will be crushed by a big clunking fist during the TV debate — DC will resign before it happens, I betchya.
‘Big clunking fist’ Bwahahahaha !!
Don’t tell me you BELIEVED that ????!!!!!! LOL !
Initially Dave said he would hold a referendum as long as the treaty was being debated or discussed. Quite rightly Marr picked him up on this as the treaty was bound to be discussed somewhere in Europe even after ratification. Dave quickly backtracked from his foolish statement and said he would only hold a referendum if the treaty was still not ratified when he came into power.
As for Dave saying he was keeping quiet about what he would do if the treaty was ratified because he did not want to put unfair pressure on the Poles or Czechs is pure bullshit. Dave is not the PM, Dave is not even in the British Government. Boris has more power than dave and Boris wants a referendum come what may.
“As for Dave saying he was keeping quiet about what he would do if the treaty was ratified because he did not want to put unfair pressure on the Poles or Czechs is pure bullshit.”
Not just 100% pure bullshit but 100% pure hypocritical bullshit too
He wrote Vaclav Klaus a letter about ratification for fucks sake!
Does he think everybody is as dim as George Osborne ???
What’s that if it isn’t putting pressure on the Czechs ?
He’s beginning to look as weasely as Blair.
Boris for PM-You are very observant and you make a point worth printing off and keeping in one’s wallet. I don’t mean as a contraceptive but to produce with an argument. Thank you.
Doesn’t bode well — I wrote to Conservative Home in response to Cameron’s e-mail saying that we’d hold him to his promise of a referendum, whether Lisbon was in force or not, and said the country was crying out for leadership on this issue — it got modded.
Don’t miss another open goal Cameron.
Presumably he does think everyone is as dim as George Osborne. If not then why the hell doesn’t he sack the man from the Shadow Chancellor role.
Anyone who trusts that prat Cameron needs their fucking head looking at!
Fuck off, you’re not even a Labour supporter you daft twat.
No labotomy brain – but I am a democrat, geddit ?
Big clunking fist, big clunking fist, no chance, it shakes tooooo much
Big wanking fist more like
Piss off ZaNu
How come No mention of the Bullingdon Club photo Guido?
I thought all copies had been withdrawn from the media under copyright law.
Dave must have been just a tad miffed to see Marr display it on the studio monitor. Bloody shame Marr did’t show a photo of Gordon looking like a depressed junky last week, they aren’t hard to find.
Oi Toffs club you are such a prick, liebour are full of rich chumps, the cabinet are full of unelected Lords and Ladies, the aristocracy under Brown has grown exponentially. Government ministers are Millionaires FFS ! and yet you still trot out this juvinille student politics class war garbage like the good little drone you are. Meanwhile your political masters get fat from the public purse ala Prescott stuffing their fat faces and bank balances all in the name of the working class. You are such a usefuil idiot. Loser !
You obviously did not or can not read my post. PRICK. My apologies if you are dyslexic.
don’t bother Toffs club
anything approaching complexity or satire just confuses most many people here
Dont need to read your post, your name says it all !
Aljabeeba show bullingdon tv show and c4 the boris dave show same week as tory conference, coincidence?
Nope planned spoiler they can be just as bad as rentabeeb!
if it doesn’t matter and the voter won’t care why do you give a fuck?
it matters quite a lot if it is followed up by the pictures all the tabloids have with leading Tories entertaining prostitutes and snorting lines.
I like the Bullingdon photo, shows some very handsome young men!
Ooh Mandy – when did you start calling yourself contessa?
my best friend was in the crab apple society.
is this the level marr is on,hopeless.
Or show a carrier bag filled with bricks and empty cans, whenever Brown is interviewed.
Dave’s wife is worth a few bob. And as for the Boy George well..
Good to see the Clapham omnibus well represented by cudly Dave’s new Tories
Soon to be run out of London Mulsims
Feck off you Huhne
According to Wikipedia Samantha is related to an Astor.
“Cameron married Samantha Sheffield, the daughter of Sir Reginald Sheffield, 8th Baronet and Annabel Jones (now the Viscountess Astor),”
Surely everyone knows what the Astor family are supposed to be ‘one of’…
Call me Dave worked at Carlton the same time I did!! gulp, never knew that! Prior to that he took a trip to S Africa….hmmm.
Dave was a “special adviser” to Norman Lamont who worked/works for N M ROTHSCHILD pre and post Parliament…..
All of the above is freely available, except that referred to in the ‘hmmmm’ which is uncorroborated rumour and speculation as to what C M Dave was actually doing in SAfrica!!
he helped set up the UAF as well young dave did
Although Boy George’s fortune must be well depleted by now with his habits….
As opposed to the Marble Arch bus which your mates blew up, LM.
Yeah! All those public school educated politicians like Harriet Harman! Oh, wait…she’s Labour, isn’t she?
He should have said even as rich as I am if I was a opor sap like you Marr I would have gone private and had my fucking ears pinned back you ugly Huhne. Now about your love child
He can’t help the ears. He has had his head stuck between that old slapper’s thighs for so long they have just got stuck that way.
The Bog Trotters want Blair to be their president. Twats they are certainly taking their revenge on Britain seriously.
http://page.politicshome.com/uk/brian_cowen_wed_be_very_supportive_if_blair_was_a_candidate_for_eu_president_.html
Just trying to annoy the English. Probably why they voted yes in the referendum. We should have said we didn’t want them to vote no!! Contrary marys, the Irish.
Who gives a toss what Brian Cowen thinks.He is more unpopular than McDoom. The ONLY reason that the Irish voted Yes is because they were bombarded by the YES side.Day in day out on RTE and in the newspapers they were lied to by the YES side.They’ve been promised jobs etc etc.It was fear that made them vote yes. As for Blair being president,remember, he is half Irish. Over here, even if it’s only your fingernails that are Irish you ARE Irish.
Another reason for the craven and cowardly Irish yes vote is that Brian Cowen has been blamed for wrecking their economy (none of the dumb fucks who voted yes had the slightest clue that this economic crash happened whilst they were already full members of the EU!!!) that many Irish are desperate for ANYONE else to run their country. They don’t want independence if it allows such a fuckwit to fuck it all up so badly.
Do you think Brown has been attempting the same strategy?
If they like him, why not make him president of Eire? I mean, he’s a Catholic so unless they can’t change the law about being of Irish birth, what’s the problem?
Lots of bloggers thought this was one of Dave’s less impressive performances, I thought it was one of his best. He has now realised that proper leadership isn’t about giving the easy or even popular answers, it’s about doing what is right for the country. Cameron is no longer the blue Tony Blair, he’s his own man. Obama isn’t Cameron’s role model, it’s Robert Peel, Churchill and Maragaret Thatcher. Cameron is evolving before our eyes into a genuine statesman.
Cameron has recognised that he might have to implement all the bollocks policies he has been chatting about…rabbit in the headlights. twat
Their will be no referendum, Daves “CAST IRON GARENTEE” is all hot air.
The only way to get out of Europ is to vote for UKIP or the B+P
Yes.
I didn’t watch the ‘show’ but if he didn’t, the most important question is ‘what will you do about our membership of the EU?’
The secondary question is : ‘how will you get rid or the wogs and kaffers in this country?’
If he can tell us that in 5 years we will be able to walk the streets and not see non-ethnic entities polluting this once wonderful country, then he is on to a winner. Otherwise, we had better start stocking up on ammunition.
John in Cheshire: Now you’re talking!
At last Hague comes to cam’s rescue
Look at what squirmy keep-away-from-children soap-the-child-first-Sopel said today
Not much, I would have thought.
Sorry, please ignore, this was a reply to another post about 988 above this one. Not sure how it finished up at 989….
I was disgusted by Marr’s line of questioning. It would have been one thing to say “you are rich, how can you identify with the common man?”, but to ask exactly how much Cameron is worth is the height of bad manners and grossly impertinent! Cameron should have demanded to know how much Marr is worth in retaliation, but Cameron is too well mannered to do such a thing.
The trouble is that if he is to polite to respond to that, then he is too polite to kick Tony Boney in the balls when he comes lording it as EU Presidente!
O/T but very important! Please sign this petition to back President Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic’s brave stand against the Lisbon Treaty:
http://www.petitiononline.com/sptklaus/petition.html
I think he is worth a hell of a lot more than that to this country especially compared to the clown that we have now.
Dc is not worth a f@ck
I’m worth more than that.
We’re not far behind.
I’m coming in just behind…
BUT none of the above are standing as PM, are they ?!
Wakey, wakey !!!
I am stand for PRESIDENT !!!
Wakey wakey Pawkey. Handlesman has got his hand up the ditherer’s ass pulling all the strings.
Worth more than anyone Labour has at the moment. They’d have replaced the clown if they had anyone better, but they don’t. Their poll ratings will slump even further when Brown goes.
The government is running on empty, and a change of governing party will give this country a much-needed boost. If that’s Cameron, so be it. Labour have done this country a great deal of damage, both by helping to start the credit crunch, and by spending money we never had and couldn’t afford on unreformed and inefficient services. They still don’t know how to stop spending other people’s money either.
Absolutely. A change of government is desperately needed and by clinging on until the very last New Labour have shown just how self-serving and vindictive they are.
Dave isn’t change. Just more of the same.
Oh ffs you have to vote for some one,some body has to try to repair the wreck give them a chance and then moan when they f*ck up !
“give them a chance and then moan when they f*ck up !”
A bit late by then.
At least a change may go some way to lifting the spirits of a down trodden nation and maybe give some hope back which is sorely needed now, not in six or seven months time.
He can lift my spirits by having a europe election decision. After that we can talk about what is neccessary to govern Britain
gordon’s not a clown – gordons’s a tragedy.
He and tone are a canker in the heart of what was a dear old country.
They’ve destroyed everything our families fought and worked for through WW1 and WW2 .
Now our children are going to have to rebuild everything from scratch.
What was the fight in WWI about again? Ah yes, fading empires in their death throes. Your analagies are as false as your comments wrong headed.
It doesn’t matter to most ordinary families what WW1 was about politically.
What matters is what it did to families. In some fen villages, including the one I came from, they lost EVERY MAN between the ages of 19 and 39 .
That trauma shaped what we have become as a family; and WW2 where a number of our young men went but fortunately came home alive, mentally scarred from the Far East , or our very own tail-end charlie with an amputated leg but still patriotic and believing in the country we belonged to.
Those wars wrong as they were, turned us into a nation – tone and gordon have shot that ideal to bits. What have they replaced it with???? – the ideal of I’m alright jack .
I can trough my way to a comfortable old age through the houses of parliament – I’m a minister I can employ illegal immigrants and not be prosecuted – I can have accidents in my car as I talk on a mobile phone and not stop at the crime scene.
Or Prezza – I can eat and get fat but the rest of you have to diet because that’s what we say is right.
Or bob aintbustinagut – I know there aren’t enough helicopters in Afghanistan but I am telling you there are – I’m the minister so you must believe my lies.
Don’t knock the sacrifice those men paid in WW1 for believing in their country Anonymous – that unity and trust in their country is what made us, not as a nation, but as a people , great ( 60,000 died on the 1st July 1916 alone) – Their deaths should never have happened but their bravery and their courage exceeded anything we have ever seen since. Sod the analogy.
As for tone and gordon what have they done for Britain ????? Last I heard Omaha is trying to create a G4 that will exclude us because gordon has made us appear completely inconsequential – a laughing stock of the world to be brutally honest.
gordon and tone Wrong headed? Oh Yeah!!!!
As usual nell,your facts are wrong. 58,000 casualties,19,000 killed.
APPLAUSE ! ! !
As usual CPT you’re reading too much wiki.
Try reading war diaries and real accounts or even better go out there and walk the battlefields, what’s left of them, to see how real men lived and died, much as our men are still doing in Afghanistan .
60,000 is probably an underestimate for that day – but then perhaps you don’t think the other 20 nationalities of all creeds and colours that fought and died that day, mattered! At the end of that battle a few weeks later 1,000,000 were dead, wounded or missing.
Men die in battle when you have political incompetence at home. It’s still happening isn’t it?
troughers were from every party little nell not just the LieBore fuckwits
and if you think Vietghanistan will be turned around by a few more helicopters and call me Dave sending yet more troops into the meat-grinder I suggest you do a bit more research
Actually VietGhanistan – as I’ve said before I don’t.
I think Afghanistan is going to become the West’s next Vietnam. I said it on here a few nights ago. I don’t think we should be there. I don’t think the reasons we are being given by gordon for being there add up. I think we should bring our troops out , now!
But I also know that’s not going to happen and I don’t want to see the troops we have in there , undermanned, under-resources under-supported as they are now. But that just means more men will die.
At the very least we should look after our own Hmm?
And whilst we’re at it why has this labour govt not formed a War Cabinet that meets daily to look at strategy and needs?
Every other British Government that has fought wars over the last 100 years has had a war cabinet in place to try and do the best for their troops that they can. But not this labour government . Why is that?
Men die in battle because of political incompetance. Those men killed in the Falklands died because of the incompetant Conservative Government that gave the Argentinians the belief that they could achieve a long held dream of Las Malvinas. The removal of RN presence,against military advice,led directly to the conflict. But once again,the courage and sacrifice of the forces got Thatchers arse out of the fire. The calculating government that we presently endure probably think that the losses are still within acceptable bounds and is a price well worth paying. War is an extension of politics,and so are expenses. The Conservatives supported Labour all the way on Afganistan and Iraq. All are equally culpable.
The figure of 58,000 casualties is a total of all allied forces,but on july 1st comprised mainly british personel.
My Grandfather fought at Miraumont and Thiepval.
Well said nell.
Not quite. WW! was a nasty little family squabble involving a nasty little German family. Shame millions had to die.
I’m sorry ,Anon 523 but your gross oversimplification of history won’t do. Two World Wars were a direct product of political failure to contain German territorial ambitions.
Thankfully we have had a massive American military presence in Germany since WW2 which has prevented our generation from being destroyed in a further bout of madness.
Nell is absolutely right in what she says about the effect of World War on families, widows and orphans. They were the people who suffered the consequence of war, not the short sighted politicians whose appeasement allowed it to occur.
Yes HB you are absolutely right – but the trouble is, this government, which has absolutely no respect for that history which forged us or for our armed forces that are still putting their lives on the line, are still making the same mistakes.
Look at aintbustinagut, the lack of kit and support, the lack of medical support when soldiers come home injured, the way they have to employ lawyers to fight for compensation for injuries, the way the troops are smeared by the MoD if they try to highlight their problems, the lack of support for families that are left bereaved…………….
N.e.x.t
j e w s caused ww1 and ww2, look up at the holocaust story they created during ww1 and how similair the holocaust in ww2 followed it.
And a big hello to Mr Dick Sniffin, back from choirboys club at the Buggers Nutters and Perverts.
Yeah. It was them. They planned the round-ups and the gas chambers. And then they went and spoiled it by winning more Nobel Prizes per thousand head of population than any other nation on the face of the planet.
Go: J E W S.
Twit.
I suppose the erudite comments from brave Anonymous British commentators demonstrate how they have been brainwashed from the lies now peddled as history by Socialist Edukators .
Thank Christ the past backbone of Britain was able to fight and die to achieve our current paradise where anonymous little wankers can disparage the past.
The last refuge of a scoundrel and all that…….
Well said Eeyore.
But it’s sad for the men who have died both in those two wars and in Afghanistan, and their families, that their sacrifice is treated with so little respect by this labour rabble.
anon 2.16. Use Firefox. It has a spell checker option.
If you’re going to spout bollocks, learn to spell “analogies”. Twat.
What a biased and loaded question. Didn’t ask Brown or Mandelson how much they are worth?
Not only that but the ‘personal’ pills question to Brown was nowhere near as direct.
If wealthy people are not allowed to be politicians as they are not in touch with the poor then how can it be ok for political journos to ask such questions as they are even wealthier. Do Marr, Boulton, Paxman know the price of a pint of milk?
I don’t know how much a pint of milk is, and I bathe in the stuff.
… thought that was Cleopatra.
and Sue at 22 linley lane
And so do I
My dear Beefy NO ONE knows what the price of a pint of milk these days, but they have a very good idea that whatever it was, it may well be a penny or two more then it was last week.
Also the price varies much depending on the size of the bottle, and even more so depending on the greed or need, of the retail outlet.
Therefore asking any politician, or any one else for that matter, if they know what the price of a pint of milk is, will almost always send the victim into a state of panic. I buy my own milk on a fairly regular basis, yet I would struggle to answer the question with much accuracy. The price of a pint in my local village shop in Dulwich is 99p, in the local Tescos 8 pints for £5.00 and the slightly less local Lidal it is sometimes as little as 4 pints for £1.99.
Which is quite amassing, don’t you think? So amassing I think I will write a best selling book on the subject of, the greatest questions that every body thinks they know the answer to, which are in reality impossible to know for sure.
Maybe entitled, The Essence of Faith.
Like
Are we intelligently designed, therefore created?
Are we a product of extreme chance, therefore a supper evolved, and incredibly lucky piece of grey coloured slime?
Are we a product of both of the above?
They were talking about Tory plans on inheritance tax. Vested interest. As far as I know Brown/Mandy aren’t planning to give this tax break. Hence no question?
Dack
So far as you know Broon/Mandy have no plans to give an inheritance tax break – have you forgotten the Broon did indeed greatly increase the threshold when he bottled the election following Cameron’s great conference speach two years ago?
I know – just saying that’s not a current plan. So why ask them that particluar question now if it’s irrelevant?
Brown, mandy and tone – don’t need to.
Brown’s going off to be the chancellor of G20 and no doubt he’ll be living somewhere where UK taxes that he’s brought in , cant get him.
mand’s going off to become tone’s Foreign Minister of the EUSSR and will no doubt end up living on one of those mediterranean islands that he favours so his taxes are safe and tone spends most of his time in the US of A.
David Cameron is likely to be far more subjected to the taxes of this land than most of this troughing labour crew!!!!
What’s a few taxes to a multi-millionaire?
To tone, mandy and brown it’s nothing – they won’t be here to pay them-militwit as well probably – he’s already said he’s interested in going to the UN – they’ll be somewhere abroad still troughing off the taxpayer.
Unfortunately this interview has handed the UKIP a lot of voters who would have voted Tory because of his avoidance of a straight answer on the EU referendum.
Fortunately more like. It would be a disaster if Euro Dave became PM.
Well, who’s the alternative then? McMoron?
Boris, Hague, Davis, Fox, Young, Carswell, take your pick
Coz if Dave thinks he can ignore most of his Party on Europe and do fuck all about lisbon he and George will be the fall guys for a shit economy the unemployment debt and tax tises while someone more in tune with the grassroots will be put in place to make the hard decisions after a couple of years
the public almost expects a PM to last a mere year or two now
only good thing abour lisbon getting ratified is that if the entire shadow cabinet and most of the tory big names EXCEPT for Kenneth Clarke were hit by a bus tomorrow he would still never be leader now.
That’s right Tasker. Eurosceptism is growing as fast as patriotism.
On the other side Dave’s waffling has probably handed quite a few non-euro scepitc votes to the LibDems.
Well it could be argued that Dave posturing could be attracting pro-europe voters ‘cos he comes across as insincere about his wish to support a NO vote if he finds a little window to have a referendum about it.
That’s OK. I want to see them push labour into third place.
at least we know he aint init for the money
you are so very, very naive
Said the man who believes G. Brown.
They are all self-evidently in it for the POWER. When one has POWER in any society the money ALWAYS takes care of itself.
For example it is said that The Queen of England has not ever actually handled the ‘filthy’ stuff. Yet she is still the single most powerful monarch in the entire world, and to my knowledge still resides in palaces, and has servants facilitating her every desire.
To actually have any REAL power in this world or theirs, you dont have to just have a few billion worth of loose change just casually hanging around in your butlers back pocket, you have to personally OWN extremely large tracks of land, and of course the peasants that work it, and on it. Usually also including at least one country, and one or two or more national or multi-national corporations.
BTW
Which begs certain questions, that never seem to get asked.
Why when it seems increasing certain that the UK is to become a state within a constitutional, but highly non-democratic Republic, has the Queen stayed inactive as well as perfectly silent on the whole issue?
Why are the media not so much as speculating as to the opinions of The Queen, or asked that of the Royal Family either individually or as a whole. Except big ears, who seems to believe that the EU is a ‘perfectly spiffing idea all round’?
Why would the future King of England, very likely his mum, along with entire extended family, be so subversively keen on the EU taking effective control over their perceived birth right?
Is there something vitally significant that we are not being told, especially by the BBC, concerning the truthful status of the entire Royal Family?
Is there a far greater connection between the current, and inevitable future form of the EU, and the Royal family then we have been led to believe there is?
What was Rudolf Hess, and his best mate Adolf really up to?
Bumming Hitler Youth like it was going out of fashion.
Old habits die hard for Lefty Marr
Who cares what he’s worth as long as he gets the country out this mess. By the way how much are you worth Messr’s Blair Mandleson and Brown. Fair question I think.
Dave is still a few million behind Her Majesty’s Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. From the expenses scandal we also know that Hoon and Darling have amassed multi-million pound property portfolios at our expense. An old acquaintence in the Lobby once advised that if you go into politics for sex, drugs and rock and roll join the Tories but if you want to be seriously rich join the Labour Party – how true.
Probably because the tories start filthy rich and stay that way and newlabour start filthy poor get into power, say they want to dedicate themselves to the people so end up filthy rich too!
Yes A Marr gave Dave tough time, sure the EU referendum/ratification question seems like a fudge, but in general Cameron kept his cool, and his point about reinstateing the BoE was well made, but come on, Ms Jenkins certainly won my vote…
At last she gave me an election.
She turned down the Labour conference, but appeared on the same show as Cameron. Good taste.
yes totty and Welsh!
What on Earth was the point of that interview? No insight gained. Marr just asked leading questions and then tried to shout Cameron down whenever he spoke.
Marr is obviously trying to rebuild his bridges with Labour after Brown’s interview by being “tough” with Dave.
However, I do think Dave gave a shit interview.
Missed this morning’s interview, but in general,its about time Dave put these media cnuts straight and allowed him to answer a question.Every fucking time he let’s them interrupt leaving him looking bumbly and flaky.He’s doomed if he carries on like this ,Broon will finish him off in a live debate unless he learns assertivness (good idea go on a course Dave)or ave a word with Eric (Pickles)On StraightTalk last night Eric put Brillo fucking straight(quietly but assertively).Watch and learn Dave.
you avin a laugh ?
Pigboy picles was a policy free zone of pure patronising pablum and pap
fat troughing fucker
This interview was a joke as is Marr. I am not at all bothered what DC is worth. I am interested in whether he can do the job or not. If Marr had asked me some of those questions after the third or fourth time I would have punched him on the nose. Marr is a fucking joke. He needs to be replaced with someone who can not only show they are not bias but can offer real substance in a proper Q & A session.
Will Marr ask prrez Blair who much he has earned out of once being PM?
Didn’t earn much as PM,but has made a fortune after.
Payment for services rendered while in power.
That’s more like it!
£10+ million according to the Daily Mail.
And still costing the UK taxpayer £500k a year in police protection.
As is,no doubt, Major and Thatcher. They all reap the rewards of having PM on their CV
I wonder who is going to be the last PM under UK in europe? Also I’ve been wondering what happens at what would have been the next irish general election?
Excuse me CPT? When did you see or have ever seen photos of either Major or Thatcher with their families at their new best friend celeb’s villa looking like they’d won the lottery?
Major was famous for his modest lifestyle preferring a plate of sandwiches to grand dinners or flash restaurants. Thatcher was married to a millionaire and although I agree, her son’s lifestyle may have left a lot to be desired, was personally extremely straight — she paid for No.10′s bathrooms and kitchen refurbishment out of her own pocket and for many years never drew her PM’s salary.
Thatcher did the millionaires lecture circuit that Blair did for big bucks. She also made the shit Mark a multi millionaire from the Al yamah arms deal,and sorted him out a knighthood. Does Major live happily on his pension,or has he various directorships earning him serious coin?
who really cares if the bloke worth a few quid?
Exactly! I’d rather be governed by a man with old money than a man without, who’s on the make!
I’ve had enough of the scheming under-class dragging this country into hopeless wars to secure their own wealth and a Whitehouse internship for their dilettante offspring!
If Cameron is worth £30 Million – what’s to corrupt?
labour mps= go in poor leave rich
tory mps= go in rich leave after fixing the country for labour to fuck up again
All MPs leave richer,than when they arrived
its within the rules right
Also, call me old fashioned, but I would like the country run by someone who has had the best education money can buy.
Like Prince Harry got
Money well spent
Exactly…it was very well spent. Good lad now – cares about those he commands and those he is looking after through his charities. You might not care to believe that, cos you’re a tosser.
those he commands in the nightclubs and the nazi costume parties or when he is having a public relations adventure holiday in afghanistan
b in art & and d in geography a-levels were essential for his merit only promotions and army PR training
Just you leave HRH Leftenant Wales VC DSO and the bar’s open out of it.
So you knock him for going to nightclubs and you knock him for doing his job, or trying to do his job… until whichever press traitor disclosed his active service. I suppose you’ve never been to a nightclub yourself or done a dangerous and difficult job.
Contemptible.
Just like someone who runs in when the fights over to spit on the battlefield? contemptable? You probably are.
The issue is not his soldiering or night club activities. It is the fact that he would never have got into Sandhurst without his family. Like him or loathe him he is as thick as a shit sandwich.
Quite, who cares? Only bitter twisted people with big chips.
MANY of the BBC’s highest-paid presenters have set up service companies that help them to pay less tax and will enable them to escape the full impact of Labour’s 50% levy on the rich.
Long-serving stars including Jeremy Paxman, Fiona Bruce and James Naughtie have set themselves up as freelance contractors rather than staffers.
The device enables the BBC and its presenters to lower their tax bills legally, leaving the rest of the country to shoulder a larger burden.
A Sunday Times investigation has found more than 20 BBC presenters who are classed as freelance for tax purposes and have set up service companies to channel their earnings.
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* BBC’s big guns turn on broadcaster over pay
* Culture Secretary accuses BBC chief of bias
They include Emily Maitlis and Gavin Esler, the Newsnight hosts, and Sophie Raworth, the One O’clock News reader, as well as Sarah Montague, presenter of Radio 4’s Today programme, and Jeremy Vine, the Radio 2 host.
The corporation has also kept hundreds of other presenters off its books by putting them on freelance deals. They include John Humphrys, who has presented the Today programme since 1987.
This weekend politicians reacted angrily. Jeremy Hunt, the shadow media secretary, said: “The BBC should be transparent about the salaries it pays and it is not acceptable to hide that by paying someone as a freelancer. These are salaries in all but name.”
Don Foster, the Liberal Democrat media spokesman, said: “The salaries of BBC staff and their tax arrangements provide yet another reason why all the corporation’s finances need to be opened up to the National Audit Office.”
HM Revenue & Customs has taken a tough line on employees posing as freelances in the IT and engineering professions and last month said it was turning to builders who were incorrectly classified as self-employed.
The corporation avoids millions in employer’s National Insurance contributions by placing presenters on freelance deals. The presenters usually negotiate higher pay, as they have to forgo paid holidays and membership of the BBC’s generous pension scheme.
The arrangement is less beneficial for the British taxpayer. The Sunday Times has discovered that the taxman tried to clamp down on the practice two years ago.
“The Revenue came to the BBC and said: you’ve got a whole lot of people on freelance contracts who are really employees,” said a former senior BBC executive.
“They said this was basically a tax dodge and it would have to stop. In the case of someone like Paxman, who is essentially an employee, the Revenue told the BBC it should either take them on staff or make them set up their own independent service company which trades directly with the BBC.”
Since then many of the corporation’s best known names have founded these companies.Naughtie founded Pagoda Works in late 2007. He was followed by Newsnight’s Gavin Esler, with Eat the Peach; Maitlis calls her company Mouse Inc, while Bruce, who reads the Ten O’Clock News and presents the Antiques Roadshow, has Paradox Productions.
Fearne Cotton and Chris Moyles, the Radio 1 DJs, have similar companies. So, too, do Declan Curry, a business presenter, and Adrian Chiles, presenter of The One Show. Paxman founded Out in the Dark in May this year.
By designating a presenter as freelance rather than staff, the BBC saves the cost of paying National Insurance, levied at 12.8% of salary. An individual paid through a service company pays corporation tax of as little as 21%, with a further dividend tax on any other money they take out.
The tax payable by a star such as Paxman, earning £1m, would be £627,000 from April if he were on staff, compared with £520,100 corporation tax and dividend tax if he used a service company and paid out the entire fee as a dividend.
Richard Murphy, an accountant who campaigns against tax avoidance, said a presenter using a service company could also defer tax and make use of large expenses allowances.
Senior BBC presenters said the corporation had spelt out the financial advantages of being classed as freelance — and warned presenters of the price of joining the staff.
One household name said he was told he would have to accept a 40% pay cut if he wanted to go on staff. Others said they were advised by the BBC to set up service companies to convince the taxman they are genuine freelances.
Tight restrictions make it difficult for most BBC news and current affairs presenters to pick up enough outside work to justify freelance status. Many are barred from working for rival broadcasters and are forbidden to write for the press or give paid speeches in case they compromise their impartiality.
The row is similar to a dispute over the freelance status of John Birt, a former director-general of the BBC, which almost cost him his job. Instead of joining the staff he was initially employed as a contractor through a service company.
While large numbers of presenters are freelance, Huw Edwards, the Ten O’Clock News presenter, Nick Robinson, the political editor, and Evan Davis, a Today presenter, are all staff.
A spokesman said: “The BBC can’t be responsible for running the tax system and ensuring that tax receipts are maximised. These arrangements are legal, proper and commonplace within the industry.”
City tactics
City staff are being advised by accountants to become self-employed to avoid the new 50% tax rate. Other techniques being considered include:
- Paying bonuses or salary advances shortly before the new rate is introduced in April
- Receiving payment in share options on which capital gains tax is imposed at 18% * * * * * Lending an employee money interest-free until the 50% tax is lowered. The loan is written off and liable for income tax, but at the reduced rate
It is within the law.http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6860238.ece
It’s all within the rules.
Actually it is not within the rules. There is a tax clause IR35 which means that they should not be able to leagally do this. Unfortunately, HM Revenue and Customs are more keen on trying to prosecute gueniune entrepreneurs than people taking the piss. As a result so far it has cost more to try to enforce the law (few prosecutions succeed in court) than is recovered from it.
Yes, quite. The Revenue used regularly to tell people who were genuinely self-employed that they should have at least FOUR different clients or run the risk of being considered to be employees (working from home for your company, for instance, is *not* freelance work).
Yes. They’ll go for a chippie or a Brickie, but not a star at the BBC.
I thought tax avoidance was/is legal,unlike tax evasion which is illegal.
Incidentally,will we ever see prosecution of m.p.’s who claimed for non-existent mortgages?
Except they have the personal service company rules to consider
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/ir35/ et al
They are probably better off as employees.
I thought that was quite common with self-employed people? I seem to remember a friend in IT doing something similar.
isn’t this what IR35 was intended to target? Or was that just for IT contractors?
IR35 brought in by the worst chancellor this country has known to appease nuliebor major clients, the IT “Consultancies”. It was intended to clobber IT contractors who ran their own companies and charged half of what the big consultancies charged.
All these Bolshevik Broadcasting Corp clowns should now be caught by the braun/hewitt legislation and should pay tax, NI and employer’s NI on 95% of thier earnings from the Bolshevik BC.
IR35 applies irrespective of occupation.
In theory and in law, but perhaps not in practice, like other laws that turn out to be inconvenient to our self-styled masters.
It didnt look good to me, no straight answer on the EU question, no straight answer on the what you worth question.
What are you worth?
I have a house that is heavily mortgaged. You can come round and look at my bank statements if you like
No just answer the bloody question.
Biased and loaded as hell but why not answer the question instead of that stupid crap about his house being heavily mortgaged, makes him look like he is trying to hide something… or even say “I don’t know and its on no consequence”… I have a big mortgage. fucking condescending rich prick.
And who is paying Dave’s Mortgage? Answer…WE ARE.
Really ? DO tell us more ?
And who is paying Andrew Marr’s wages and Jonathon Woss?
You are.
His house is heavily morgaged,and we are paying the interest.
Doesn’t he get child benefit too ? Sounds like he needs it.
A shame that Vaclav Klaus is also furiously backpedalling and making it fairly clear he won’t hold out very long.
You won’t be able to fudge the question then Davy boy.
Only waiting for the best offer. Won’t be long.
It’s heavily mortgaged when it doesn’t need to be. He and his wife are loaded but deliberately take on an unnecessary mortgage because then they can claim the interest fro the taxpayer. Troughers.
Any comments on the claiming for non existant Mortgages by Labour, on the property swapping practiced by Labour, on the claiming for second houses by Labour MPs and Ministers living within London ?
Or is Labour above criticism ?
I didn’t read that as a defence of Labour. Just pointing out that Dave’s a trougher, too. Which he is. Why does attacking one ‘side’ make people assume you’re a rabid supporter of the other?
They’re pretty much all the same. Dave’s mortgage interest was almost exactly the maximum he could claim in expenses, about 22 grand a year, and was more than he paid for the house. Saves having to compile expenses for anything else I guess.
Not as bad as some of the scams that were going on, but that doesn’t make it right. If it were not for 100 other troughers being revealed at the same time this could have been a big story.
Expenses shouldn’t be used to pay mortgages – I can’t do that and you can’t do that, so why should MPs be allowed to do that??
So in principle he’s as bad as the rest of them. Troughing is troughing. Vote for a candidate if there’s one worth voting for. Fuck the ‘left’ and ‘right’
None of them are perfect, we know damn well that they all saw the allowances and expenses as part of the “package” of being Members of Parliament. I’d still go for the idea of using the Olympic Villiage as MPs’ accomodation after 2012.
If you or I did what Dave did with his mortgage, it would be filed under tax avoidance rather than tax evasion. Doesn’t mean it’s right though, but in a different league to the flipping of homes, CGT avoidance and the non-existant mortgages claimed by others.
Given the choice we face at the next election, I would rather see Labour killed off for good than dilute the right/libertairian vote among several parties. Maybe at the following election we will see more parties with representation.
I agree. But I couldn’t stomach voting for a trougher, however deep they stuck their nose in.
Hope you get a choice in your constituency. There are degrees of troughing, as Steve says, with perhaps 50 – 70, mostly but by no means all labour, who would be considered crooks anywhere else, and a large number of people like Cameron who are just somewhat soiled, and a smaller number who are actually clean. But how can you tell if a candidate opposing a grubby MP will be any better? The selection processes in all the parties are pretty squalid, with an alarming number of lobbyists, PR people, SPADs etc on the lists.
Dave is to Brown as Obama was to Bush: the promise of change, the reality of no change, just a more acceptable persona for the TV watchers.
Obama surges troop numbers in Afghanistan, bombs Pakistan; gets told to shock and awe Iran by Israel lobby; steps up the transfers of taxpayers money to Wall Street. US Fed prints exponential dollars, destroying American middle class.
Cameron ditto, escalation of war in ‘stan; bombing of Pakistan and attack on Iran. more taxpayer money, no proscution of criimnal bankers. Bank of England prints exponential pounds, destroying British middle class.
Don’t vote, boycott The System.
Don’t boycott the system! find out who abuse it and then calculate the number of lampposts and length of rope you require. It’s cheaper to buy in bulk.
Oh dear, really has touched a raw nerve, hasn’t it.
And by your comments you suggest that Bliar, Brown, Harman, and their many and varied cronies are in poverty ?
You really are delusional aren’t you. JUst take a look at the acumulated wealth that the present Cabinet has, both inherited as well as stolen through tax and expenses fraud.
Of course THEY are Labour and therefore above criticism.
Good manners stops me writing down what I think of you and your ilk, so toddle off before Mother catches you playing on the computer.
the only raw nerve touched has been you self-evidently
nobody mentioned Labour because the subject at the top is
“+++ Marr Asks Dave “Are you worth £30 Million?”
Do you want it explained slowly or do you need someone to shout it into your ear ?
Criticism of one Party is only thought to be implicit approval of the other by Party hacks and drones such as yourself.
I’ll make it simpler for you since comprehension isn’t your strong point.
Brown, Harman, and their many and varied cronies are cu.nts
Troughing hypcritical lying thieving taxpayer money stealing cu.nts
Their wealth only makes their odious troughing all the more disgusting as it does with every MP no matter what Party they are in.
Got it ?
Exactly, as I pointed out above. You criticise a Tory without someone going ‘Whaddabout Labour then, eh? Eh?’ every 5 seconds. Or vice versa. It’s tedious.
Marr is just trying to even up the ‘faux pas’ he made last week re pills v gorgon.
Countessa, I rather think Marr asked Brown the question just so he was ‘obliged’ to ask Dave, Marr is key colloborator
When I am in need of any instruction in comprehension then I shall go to someone who is qualified in that field, in the meantime please do not lecture.
The question was quite clearly asked (by a Labour supporting interviewer) in a cynical attempt to make a point that David Cameron is a “rich bastard”, aka he is thus not fit to be PM. This sort of sh*te is straight out of the Left Wing Manual and done simply to attempt to smear.
Its the usual propoganda trick of repeating an untruth until eventually it becomes accepted as “fact”.
Whether or not David Cameron is rich or not is completely irrelevant to the whole subject of the referendum.
but not to the subjects of pork-busting expenses troughing or inheritance and other tax related issues since they affect him
Exactly what the OP was saying.
> Whether or not David Cameron is rich or not is completely irrelevant
Exactly so why didn’t he just say that instead of making some odious attempt to appear to have a “large mortgage” (that we are paying anyway).
I don’t get it, we are not idiots and I don’t care how rich he is, I just like honesty in my leaders
The Q was relevant anyway as they were discussing inheritance tax.
folks i have found gordons insugents
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6860246.ece
Oh.
Daves stuck between a rock and a hard place. Most tory voters are against integration into the EU,but many of the MPs are in favour.
That’s why UKIP are much more of a danger to the Tories than to ZaNu Lie Baaah.
Marr had no choice:
http://prologue.squarespace.com/prologue/2009/10/4/forgive-me-father.html
Why is Andy Marr and Jeremy Clarkson appearing in adverts for Watersone’s plugging BBC books …????
Dave’s plan to abolish the BBC almost tempted me to vote for him (just ‘almost’ then I woke up).
Link please to DC plan to abolish the BBC.
We’ll take your word for it that you are awake.
And stay awake . That posse from the care home is closing in fast .
What is your net worth-Inflation /deflation debate:-</object
Having just watched David Cameron’s interview on the Andrew Marr show BBC1, he acquitted himself well despite the prejudiced inquisition laid on by Marr. At one point it looked like Marr had lost it with his fit of bad temper and constant hectoring. However, D.C came through well with calm, honest answers, overcoming loaded questions and looking more like our next Prime Minister in waiting. Marr was obviously displeased at being ‘bettered’in this contest.
Is your TV on the blink?
his brain is in the blink
I presume you’re talking about Marr – no truer statement!
Just wondering if that was a same interview with our Dave that I watched this morning,As for the EU Lisbon treaty it looks as if our Dave has been taken spinning lessons that Brown had,if he does not let us munkins know what he will do if the treaty is ratified, us munckins might just take our vote elsewhere, the rest of the interview what do you expect from a Liebour lovie.
i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not?
I disagree about who ‘won’. It was an ill-tempered and evasive interview … both sides came out about even…
Dave was stalling, as expected, over what to do about a referendum and about how wealthy he was (so much less important than what he would do if/when he gets/got into power). He had a ‘no interference’ line whilst Poland and the Czech republic still had not ratified the treaty, and he stuck to it… It wasn’t entirely credible…
Obviously the guardian gave him his orders, to make up for last week’s debacle.
The Guardian gave orders to whom: CMD or Marr?
I agree. Marr looked like a clod.
I don’t care if Dave is worth £300 million or £3 billion as long as he gets rid of the Prime Mentalist and stops the ruination of this country which has been in progress for about, I don’t know, 12 years.
Nu Liebour – trashing everything that’s good about Britain – since 1997.
fuckin right , i aint a dave fan but he dont make me throw up when on tv , and anyway if he is worth a few quid dont that mean he and his wife have sucsseful with there businesses?
The only business he’s had is politics. His missus comes from a wealthy family.
It’s like you marrying the publicans daughter.
Career Move 10:49am. – what has a randy blonde publicans daughter got to do with it?
post a pic of yourself to see whether WE throw up lookign at YOU!
but i aint standing to become pm
Are you then an authority on aesthetics ?
what I am leading up to is that you should shut the fuck up
Pawkes,
I have read your entreaties to ‘shut the fuck up’ at various times – Obviously you don’t understand what a blog is. Let me enlighten you:
1. It’s intended to provoke discussion -perhaps you might contribute something reasoned,intelligent or useful? I think you have covered abuse very well.
2. Cunningly crafted names are a feature here – do try harder. Stealing someone else’s and altering one letter rather suggests a lack of effort on your part. Do try harder.
3. At first I thought your link to a non existent page was an attempt at humour. I am coming to the view that it may be technical ineptitude. May I suggest purchasing the excellent ‘The Internet for Dummies’ to avoid future embarrasment?
Procrustes, I endorse your comment. 163
I agree – why don’t the BBC pursue all these taxpayers £millions that tone, mandy and the rest of the labour crew have troughed out of us to make them rich?
Nell – you can’t counter every negative with a negative. Dave’s as bad as the rest.
I don’t see dave’s wealth as a negative. It’s his and his family’s money – it hasn’t been stolen from anyone else (at least as far as we know). I don’t care how much he’s worth.
The wealth the labour crew have accrued to their own pockets , and many of them are now property millionaires, a smaller number are property multi-millionaires, has been troughed/stolen from us the taxpayer.
There is clear moral difference.
Please explain that moral difference to me – because I simply don’t get it.
nell doesn’t think wavy Davey was troughing like the rest of him
because nells Dave’s bestest friend in the world
Nell did explain it.
Tory troughing good,Labour troughing bad.
No she didn’t. I’m not concerned about Dave’s wealth. I’m saying that troughing is troughing – whoever does it, whatever the amount. No moral difference at all. And my point was re every criticism of Dave being countered with ‘but Labour are worse.’ Counter the criticism, don’t deflect it. That’s what politicians do, and one reason why we’re all fucked off with them.
Wrong Anonymous!
All Parliamentary troughing was bad. Dave’s wisteria was wrong.
The whole system of paying for MP’s mortgages and expenses which labour put in place as a stealth payrise to fool the public was WRONG!
The way MP’s have turned themselves into property portfolio millionaires/multi millionaires through the mortgage system is wrong. And hopefully the worst troughers will either not stand at the next election or not be re-elected if they do. I hope Julie Kirkbride is listening!
And things have got to change.
Do we think gordon is going to change it, if we vote him in again?
It’s not likely is it?? – gordon’s sole focus in life in on himself – I am the great one! I have saved the world! I have cured boom and bust! I am Omaha’s bestest friend!
I think we need someone who has a more balanced and wider focus.
They are all handicapped by the fact they’re politicians.
said the immigrant
no racist shit on here
oh, just YOUR shit is it – grow a brain before you talk to me.
Room to let. No whites.
Pawkes? Must be a labour troll… how unoriginal… ‘grow a brain, etc ‘- how quaint…
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So original and creative,Speado.
Pawkes is that imbecile spaedo shorts. He’s been around for a while, and has not posted an original or witty comment yet. He peddles a rather dull and generally unenlightened NuLab line, and generally lowers the tone.
George Osborne on sky no longer looks like a boy …more of a teenager.
Young with fresh ideas that’s just what we need , rather than the burnt out failure of gordon.
Yes one of his better interviews and making good points how all his initiatives are funded and the social economic reasons behind them. Quite refreshing compared to the Brown ducking and diving stuff.
Osbornes a cock
wake up
there isn’t a man in that shadow cabinet who couldn’t do a better job than him
he’s only there because he’s Daves special ‘friend’
Anonymous. You are Wrong!
Yes George Osborne is young, yes he’s rich (well that’s good he won’t need to leech the state to support his lifestyle like mandy and tone have done). And I for one don’t envy his wealth or think that makes him unfit for parliament.
Did he take drugs during his students day? Did he do stupid things in his youth. Did he make mistakes? Well did I? Did you? “He who has no sin let him cast the first stone.” It won’t be me.
I’m happy to give him a chance – in fact I’d go so far as to say that he’s is infinitely better than gordon – with whom I have become completely disillusioned.
gordon is a navel gazing, dithering, cowardly idiot.
You are a fundamentalist who would cause great harm to the Conservative party. The scorn of ignorance is yours. Any comment that even merely hints at an alternative opinion is disparaged and attacked with your obsessions. Anything whatsoever anyone says you misconstrue (misundersand perhaps) and immediately appropriate it via a connection with someone called Gordon and someone called Bob. Give it a fucking rest will ya? No self-respecting Tory will have anything to do with this kind of shit.
The Job ahead is going to be as tough if not tougher than that undertaken by Thatcher in 79.
Has Cameron got the fear/respect that maggie had?
Judging by Ken Clarkes attitude,No.
Over a year ago people on this blog were demanding Cameron be ditched and replaced with a tougher character.
Lets face it, the Conservatives would no longer be up against Blair and in the pretty boy stakes even a horses arse would look better than Brown.
So here we are, going to be stuck with mediocre Dave for possibly12-18 years
and a Conservative Government riven with infighting instead of running the country.
Fucking great.
maybe he might suprise us ? gotto hold on to something or no reason to vote
The only surprise you’re going to get is the realisation that he’s a useless twat.
Let’s give him a chance. People sometimes perform better than expected just as with brown, who was trumpetted as being the’great clunking fist’ , some perform infinitely worse.
Indeed Mrs Thatcher wasn’t expected to do well and it was thought at the time of her first election win that she might only last one term.
She grew into the job so might dave.
Daves a small radish,hoping to grow into a big one.
Let’s remember radishes can be hot and peppery and have real fire – it sure beats gordon the limp lettuce leaf.
Daves a Tesco radish. Wet,no crunch and flown in at great expense
The quiet radish is here to stay and he’s turning up the volume!
Radishes are Red on the outside but white on the inside which is spooky as I used to call Blair a radish
As someone who thinks principles, talent and insight matter more than age – it worries me the number of fresh, inexperienced faces there are, mostly spinning bullsh*t. If the Tories want comfortably in it’s the old guard they need to persuade. If I was a middle class, middle aged voter with half a brain cell I wouldn’t want to risk my future on the basis of what I’ve seen so far.
Middle class and middle aged eh?
What I am is a grown up and I’m sick to death of labour leeching the pensions and stuff we’ve worked so hard for and fed up to the back teeth with gordon’s stealth taxes that drains our income and completely disgusted with a nanny state that tells me what light bulbs to use in my house, what food to eat and not to eat and how many hours of television or activities my child should do each week – I’m prepared to take a risk on dave and hope he gives us back some of our independence and the chance to make some decisions for ourselves.
Nell that wasn’t my point. And I’m not a Labour supporter, so countering with a litany of Labour sins doesn’t answer it.
Then Dack you need to state your point more clearly. As I’ve said I’m a fenwoman I don’t read subtleties.
My point was that I don’t think the Tories are doing a very good job of appealing to their core voters.
Radishes are eaten by Germans (with beer). At least we have that to look forward to.
Isn’t radishing something they do at public school? Eton, perhaps?
No it’s what we working class fen tigers do when we get annoyed!!!!
are they slagging off your boyfriend again nell ?
heartless bastards
Rabbits love radishes!
Leave my auntie Nell alone,or i might,or might not,do something.
I haven’t observed anyone on this blog that I wouild bet on to do a better job than Cameron in taking the tories from behind in the polls to the current position as favs to win the next election . He deserves his chance to show what he can do when he can operate the levers of power .
The only reason the tories are ahead is because of the disgust at labour. Not at Daves inspired leadership. Lesser of two evils is the driving force in the polls.
I thought rabbits liked duracells?
To A Pollster . I’m afraid it is ever true that the incumbent party loses an election. It is rarely a fact that the opposing party wins it.
In this case the labour party has not only lost the election it has wilfully thrown it away.
No doubt all those labour MP’s and Ministers think they have troughed enough money out of the taxpayer ( so much in fact that they have left the economy in tatters) that they can now all retire to a warm climate in comfort.
Some people. Not everyone.
I see the left are out in force this morning…
No doubt under orders from HQ.
And to all of those that think Cameron should’ve admitted his worth..would you..on TV?
I’m sure that moonlighting benefits dodgers would all be absolutely honest if asked whether they get cash in hand work, whilst getting State handouts..wouldn’t they?
Poor old left, you have to feel sorry for them… well, maybe not…
The left run the EU. Even Attilla the Hun becoming PM would’nt stop the march of socialism.
Reality will stop the march of socialism
His wealth is not important it’s family money not state money.
And in any case it’s likely to be less than those millions tone and mandy have troughed from the state to make themselves rich.
his wife is a decendant of the whore Nell Gwynne (sp?) so don’t talk a load of shite, poor little silly nell….she is an age old trougher and he is of a similiar “priviliged” (criminal) background.
‘sigh’
I know – disgusting isn’t it……inherited wealth is criminal.
Isn’t that called the politics of envy..Speado?
GP – Was it Proudhon who stated, ‘Property is theft.’ Like that Casio watch you’ve got, GP: is it yours? Yes? Then, you’ve stolen it from me. Nice gaff you’ve got here, GP: how much did you have to pay for it? As much as that? But it’s your Property – so you’ve stolen it from everyone else – and, at the moment, I represent everyone else, so hand it over.
So family money is ‘criminal’ but troughing from the taxpayer to make yourself rich like tone and mandy, bob aintbustinagut and his sidekick kevan is OK is it?!!
Silly boy!! You’ve got a weirder view of reality than gordon!!!!
a very wealthy man living in a country pad paid for by us. It’s all about public duty,is’nt it?
I care ziltch about his family wealth. But it is relevant. It should be fucking criminal that a millionaire, no matter how they became one, no matter which party they belong to, is getting any mortgage payments paid for by you and me. I’d have thought the 2nd home allowance was intended to allow MPs to ‘afford’ a place to stay in London while maintaining a home in their consistuency, outside london. Not a ‘get elected-have-a-free-house-in-London on the taxpayer fucking trough-fest’.
Modest flats should be bought and owned & maintained by the HoC and allocated out. End of. If you don’t like it, don’t become an MP. If you don’t like it but you are rich enough to get your own place, even better.
Fucking free houses indeed. Labour / Tory or whatever, they are all the fucking same. Thieving bastards. Every single scumbag one of them.
Excuse the language. I forgot how fucking enraged this all made me when it first came out. They can stick my vote.
Well Cross Party Trougher. You’d need to ask that question of someone like prezza with his tudor beams or geoff hoon with his countryside manor and london mansion or tone or mandy with their
multi-millionnaire property portfolios wouldn’t you?
Prezza and Hoon are finished as government ministers. Cameron aspires to lead the country next,representing change. As far as i can see,he has the same morals as them.
Phil Free, I think your post makes very good sense. Best not attack Dave too strongly. We want to get rid ot the ghastly party new labour first.
Hang on! Sexism from a Labour supporter? Any weapon to attack an enemy, eh?
If you really want to talk about referenda, there is no more disgusting an episode than the vote on the EU constitution referendum where Labour and the Liberal Dingbats voted against holding one, despite promising it in their manifestoes.
Labour and the Lib Dems lied to get our votes, then turned round and stuck two fingers up at us when they should have been giving us their votes in the Commons. Once bitten, twice shy.
Yup. Never trust a politician. Never. Just make sure that they can’t wriggle too much by pinning them down
Yes Nobody, makes you worse than sick doesn’t it?
72 Mr Nobody obviously has no memory
Hopefully Mummy will put them to bed early, after all too much playing with the computer is bad for ones development, and after all they have school tomorrow.
Grow up. Most of these comments are coming from Tory supporters. They just want Cameron to be straight with them over Europe. The fact that he is spinning before he even comes into power is not a good sign. It would strengthen Dave’s electoral chances and consequently the Conservatives if Dave were straight right from the outset.
He’s a politician.
A mere politician. No skill, no training, nothing but the gift of the gab – and not always that.
He made a good choice of kitchen toaster. (Could have been Sarah but he allowed her it).
Labour promised a referendum and didn’t give us one. That’s all you need to know.
84 – it is a case of what YOU need to know – shut up and dont embarrass us all any more than you already have you poor fool
It’s the faux aggression that is so amusing…look at me, I’m tough, etc… Sad really… if it wasn’t so funny…
*yawn*
146 *technicolor yawn*
Guido Pawkes is really Gordon Brown on the 09:30 from Kings Cross to Darlington to listen to the faithfull at the The Working Men’s Club and Institute Union Blytheholme Working Mans Club in Stockton on Tees where nobody has ever worked.
He can’t fathom these welded railway tracks asking why they don’t have riveted tracks any more whilst trying to figure out which way up his laptop goes and why he has a backfacing seat. Does he want to know where he’s going or where’s he been.
His scalp will look great on my wall
I do like a laugh at a straw man sock puppet now and again. However, when they post this often without a single valid argument it’s a bit obvious.
Still, it’s worth making the point again. Labour let us down by promising a referendum and not giving us one. Only the Tories and a section of Lib Dems voted in favour when it came to the crunch. Game over.
some labour mps also defied the whip
108 – define a “valid” argument
You would flatter yourself if you claimed YOU were a man of straw when you are actually a man of shit (the shit being mainly for brains it would seem).
you’re shit.
fuck off.
note to reader: the strategy of the above idiot is to disrupt the thread to make it more difficult for the reader to follow.
please don’t bait the cripple.
thankyou.
Great tat’s arrived, he knows how to sort them out!
Sorry Tat – no doubt we should ignore him – but I’d rather hit him with Mrs T’s handbag filled with some of that gold that gordon sold off at rock bottom price.
And to GP who is really spaedo, what ‘valid’arguments have you ever put forward for any political party? – you’re just an immature spoiler, making childish attempts to be offensive. It’s time your mother gave you a smack round the ear.
Yes, well done pointing it out again!
pawkes
i dont get the reason you post , if you are here to try and get us to vote labour then your charming posts insulting voters are not right way to go .
if you are here just to disrupte this blog then you are a sad lonely wanker and will get righlty laughed at .
so what is it ?
You’re his Sunday entertainment.
99 – that is an insight into your own flawed, perverted thiinking – don’t flatter yourself that you could even guess how I think.
You don’t think. You just ejaculate mental cum
115 – thank you – I didn’t know you cared -now fuck off peach arse.
Too easy to guess – the simple mindset gives itself away… but keep on amusing us…
You think? Fuck off! That’s impossible.
and they said education standads had gone up
It’s the naughty boy at the back of the class enjoying all the attention he brings upon himself by acting the goat. Nothing more.
91 – it’s none of the above
I will accept that you are not here to disrupt this blog, but your assertion that you are not a sad lonely wanker is simply unbelievable.
touche
I don’t believe it!
Kinell! Pawkes / paedo back again, and it’s always the same sad shit. Hurl abuse, push the NuLab line, then back off when the arguments get too hot. Quel wanquere, and a waste of valuable web-space.
DC didnt do to badly, specially as Marr kept throwing labour spin as fact towards him, good on DC for not allowing himself to get caught up, it really did just show Marr in a pathetic light.
as for the referendum ;
1, DC has promised a referendum if not ratified, he needs to hold that line until that changes.
2. If and when the czech and pols ratify, then DC will ‘have’ to lay out his plans re that situation.
3. So i suggest to those in doubt, if 1, applies, we get our referendum. if 2, applies and ratification is the state of play before DC gets elected, there will be enough time to look at what the alternative offering DC will give before deciding whether or not he is not worthy, i for one am patient, there is nothing he can do at this present time.
4, if DC does not come up with the goods re both situ’s then thats the time to defect to UKIP.
Well said.
what could be simpler ?
apart from just saying I will have a referendum whatever the circumstance
Ireland had a referendum and said No, computer said: wrong answer, try again., Ireland had another referendum and said YES, computer says: correct answer. You can vote but it will only count if it is the right vote. Deep Thought thinks, yes the answer is (you are not going to like it but..) 42 member states.
” i for one am patient, there is nothing he can do at this present time.”
Lets hope that by the time your patience runs out with his fencesitting,it is’nt too late.
@127 so dave what do you suggest, re my patience,
if you know of an organised protest, or affirmative action plan, i will most definately be there in support. but other than that,???
so dave, what do you think DC should be doing right now that will have any real effect on this current situation?
it seems to me running around like headless chicken’s pissing in our own pool, is what the labour and left wingers would like to see, do you think that is a good idea? all we have is patience. and i have faith that DC has too, slowly slowly catch the monkey.
still please let me know what you think.?
I think i’m not going to vote for a man whose sole policy is wait and see.
Yeah, why don’t you just vote for someone like Cleggy who’ll just keep McMental in power for the next twelve years.
Your grandchildren would count themselves lucky to get employment as goatherders at the end of another 12 years of Labour incompetence.
Or vote for UKIP and get – oh yes Mcmental again- just like 2005
President Bliar and Lisbon guarantee another 12 years of Labour incompetence unless call me Dave suddenly finds a pair of balls
Another 12 years of Zanu and your grandchildren will think a goat herder = sort of horse whisperer, init?
Also, if Zanu can win 12 more years there’ll be no room for goats, only Sheeples.
This whole “will we have a referendum on something that’s already ratiifed” question is nonsense – if it’s ratified then it’s ratified, and only another Treaty with 27 signatures on it can undo Lisbon – not going to happen.
UKIP (and I think Labour spinners in the background) are trying desparately to get the Tories to commit to a referendum on EU withdrawal, which almost nobody wants in reality.
What was wrong with what we voted for in 1973?? A trading bloc not a federal socialist superstate
Even the fat sailor Heath didn’t really believe that old chestnut. It was always going to happen.
what is nonsense is pretending that Britain isn’t still a Sovereign State that can ABROGATE any treaty it pleases
Only the Ken Clarke’s and David Miliband’s of this world pretend Europe is the most powerful force on earth that can never be opposed, ignored or simply told to fuck off
Abrogation is the word you want!
If 4 is the answer liebour will get 5 more years. Demonstrate now for:
1- a referendum and force liebour to honour its promise
2- for a general election now so Dave can honour his promise
@148, south east voter.
re 4 that’s very true, but if DC and tories fail ‘my’ faith in them with regards to the eu, then it really wont make much difference who is in government, as we will be governed by eu.
1, for labour to honour it’s promise?? pig’s may fly.
2, i’m with you all the way GE ‘now’
but once again it’s down to ……?
Gordon McSlob: “Boo Hoo Sob. Obama is a double-crossing bitch. He’s planning to hold a G4 Conference to which I won’t be invited. Grrrr…where’s ma fucking Nokia gone”.
But Mr. G. McSlob; we’ve been told you’re the ‘Great Clunking Fist’.
How could Obama Beach then snub you so disastrously ??
Maybe Gordon’s just a Great Fucking Shit.
Forget what he’s got in the bank. What’s Cameron’s credibility worth? He wriggled like a fish on a hook over Lisbon and the question of a referendum. I’ve just blogged on it here. Suffice to say, I’m not impressed…
See 113 above.
New Labour have wriggled for 12 fuckin’ years so get over it!
Oh great. So because Labour have been deceitful and morally bankcrupt I should be happy to accept that Cameron will deliver more lies and cowardice? Some of us don’t like to ‘get over it’ but to fight it instead. Read the Rhubarb Grumble Blog here.
Why don’t you stay on your own blog, with your own readers- oh, I see
126 – sleeper, wake up FFS
Hiya Spaedo…..still in fine fettle then.
If you’ve got something worthwhile to say,please feel free.
Otherwise,just be a good chap and toddle off please.
140 drop dead ffs.
Unfortunately he’s one of the living dead who still believes Gordon Brown is sane and competent.
Japan’s former finance minister Shoichi Nakagawa, who was forced to resign over his apparently drunken behaviour at a meeting of world powers, was found dead at his home in Tokyo earlier today.
Unlike our politicos, the Japanese lot are extremely proud of their honour.
Zanu by contrast have squeezed every last drop of decency from British politics.
Break manifesto promises = OK
Lie to the voters = OK
Lie to parliament = OK
Lie to the press and even the police = OK
Have the police visit number 10 = OK
Fiddle the taxpayer on masse = OK
Break the law on masse = OK
Ultimate Penalty = promotion to non democratically elected EU President.
That’s ridiculous! Dave is worth 20 times that amount.
In many third world countries rich people are preferred to poor people because “their bellies are already full” and so are less likely to start helping themselves to public funds.
Get the drift but then thought of Prescott so serious flaw in that argument.
Mr Creosote
At least a rich Dave is less likely to steal and be on the take than the Blairs.
Laugh out loud!
Apart from little things like charging us for his Wisteria.
That is precisely the point.
Well said – it’s very noticeable who have been the main parliamentary troughers in the last 12 years. Labour members who came to the job from shop floors and school kitchens and the like , like prezza and bob aintbustinagut, without a penny to their names are now sitting on property portfolios that virtually make them millionaires.!!!!
Get those blinkers off!
‘Tis you who are blinkered. Maybe you are one of them trying to defend the indefensible?
It’s all in the name,Nell.
bit too complicated for nell cross Party trougher
she thinks it’s only LieBore who are expenses piggies
nell, there’s nothing virtual or even virtuous about it. They are millionaires…….and all courtesy of public money.
Blooming odd scanning across the blogs and finding that what Polly tried to serve up as the appetiser and Mr. Marr tried to make the main course is now being trotted out nearly by rote by various ‘posters’ as ‘just desserts’.
I think it might of helped their attempt if they had actually watched the exchange before also mostly claiming Mr. Marr wiped the floor with Mr. Cameron, and took that patent piece of delusional spin off their scripts before posting them.
Mr. Marr got sod all from him…. more’s the pity.
But compared to last week’s effort… by host and guest… talk about an easy pass.
Why are almost all in the politico-media infirmament now either inept, indebted or so hopelessly tribal they are incapable of even basic professional standards, especially in trying to cover their blatant agendas competently?
Stop trying to score silly points. Stop with the p*ssing contests. And get back to holding all our political ‘leaders’ properly to account without going in with the spin to the exclusion of all else.
lib/lab/con.they all want the eu……….
all want POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY DONT GIVE A STUFF ABOUT YOU AND I OR THE COUNTRY!
all little napoleons with delusions of grandeur.
James Bond, your country needs you !
‘Make’em not turd’
Watching Dave being skewered by Marr, and his desperate squirming over the referendum, unemployment and his views on the economy, made me realise how right so many of us were to say that Dave and his fags will be as bad…if not worse…than the current useless shower.
God help us all.
Clearly you were watching an interview in a parallel universe.
Your username seems to say it all….nothing audible,but leaves a rotten stench.
Weren’t you asleep?
Nope..just recovering from the anaesthetic effect of your post.
said Mogadon Man
NOTHING, but NOTHING could possibly be as bad as 12 years of Liebour.
Twelve years of absolute anarchy would have been less destructive.
what did Blair way when the public was sick to the back teeth of the tories ?
THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER!
How we laughed
Dave succeeded by not giving too much away at this stage of the game, and giving the BBC the chance to scream out more negative headlines.
I’m sorry that he doesn’t include many of the disgruntled commentators on here in the loop. Perhaps he should, as they’re views are of course very important.
Anyone who votes Labour at the next election must have a pecuniary interest in maintaining this scam whihc is rapidly dragging the country down into the Third World.
If Labour get in again I’m emigrating to Somalia.
Don’t forget to take your Captain Pugwash outfit.
At the Labour party conference after Browns speech Neil Kinnock was enthusiastically applauding him with a big ginger smile on his face, as well he might as he and Glenys have troughed at least £12 million from being Meps. Today Marr asked the question to Cameron, Marr of the BBC is worth a few bob himself but don’t expect he will be publishing the figures as indeed the BBC are refusing to publish any figures about pay and expenses, then Toynbee who seems to have done a little research into tax systems of European countries, France bad, Tuscan villa in Italy good…… kettles and pots all round
I think the Labour party of the last 30 years will be remembered as a mafia-style crime syndicate. Richard Starkey will be the historian (I think one of the best historians) and each and every of them will be loathed for centuries to come.
Agreed.I’ve long since concluded that HMG has been taken over by a criminal gang intent only on self-enrichment.
Errrrr it’s David..Richard Starkey is the one talentless Beatle.
Probably Dave’s worse interview. I would have though his refusal to answer anything on Europe, would have been worthy of comment Guido? But no.
Thats all you could come up with, still smarting over the Irish U-turn?
Worse or worst?
shittest
Not worse than some other leaders.
At least when Dave got up he had the sense to remove his microphone first and I don’t think he muttered any death threats to Marr under his breath.
Oh… so the option is the best of a bad lot, then. How depressing.
Errr…. that’s always been the case hasn’t it?
In terms of Govt, it seems yes. In terms of candidates, no.
At the end of the day Dack the choice comes down to voting for who you think is going to be best for your interests.
If you are a pensioner, you’re not going to vote for gordon given how he’s devalued and leeched hard earned pensions to ruin.
If you are middle class , you aren’t going to vote for gordon given how he’s kicked everything the middle classes have worked hard for to hell.
If you, like me, are someone who uses the nhs regularly for several permanently disabled members of the family, you aren’t going to vote for gordon because as we’ve discovered the nhs is about putting money into expensive (worthless) managers’ salaries not into patient care.
If you have a rural background you won’t vote for gordon because labour has done everything possible to destroy rural life and I’m NOT talking about foxhunting!! Try prezza’s grand plan to build urban cities across rural green fields or labour’s plan to wipe out rural post offices and on and on……..
And cutting down every tree (they’re all dangerous) and erecting wind turbines which don’t work when it’s cold and expanding airports and taxing us for petrol while local public transport hardly exists.
They hate us because they can’t control us or keep us under surveillance.
Nell – I’M NOT A LABOUR VOTER! Stop telling me why I shouldn’t vote Labour, and tell me why you’d vote for Dave. Apart from ‘why not give him a chance’ and ‘he can’t be as bad as Gordon.’ I’m not having a go – I’m just asking.
Why am I going to vote for Dave, Dack?
+because I expect that at the very least he’s going to put another 2500 troops into Afghanistan and all the kit the lads need as quick as he can ( that’s what he says)
+ because he says he will give us a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty and a date for voting if it hasn’t been ratified by the election
+ because he says if the treaty has been ratified by the election he’ll be looking at what else can be done to regain lost sovereignty
+because he says his party will oppose bliar as president if the treaty goes through
+because he says he will stop gordon’s ‘spend spend spend’policies and make cuts
+because he’s got Ken Clarke on his team who I admire.
+because I actually think he”ll cut backroom excess and preserve frontline services
+because I believe he’ll get rid of many of the quango’s especially the Regional Development Authorities
+because he says he’s going to cut the number of mp’s and the size of government ie number of ministers
+because I actually like the sensible and thoughtful proposals Ian Duncan Smith is bringing forward for Welfare Reform
Thank you. If he does everything he says you won’t be disappointed. Based on experience I’m more of a cynic I’m afraid.
If he does everything he says?
Who knows?
The trouble is Dack we’ve had 12 years of lies and more damned lies.
Will Dave deliver? – He’s a politician like all the rest and we are only able to chose between politicians. It is, as they say, a leap of faith.
So we come full circle to who do we think is worst and who do we think might be better.
I just know that gordon and his crew are proven to be the most dishonest, uncaring, economically incompetent government I have ever seen in my lifetime.
Choose between candidates, Nell. Surely given all you’ve said before you wouldn’t vote for someone you expect to send ‘at least’ another two and a half thousand – even properly equipped – troops to fight an unwinnable war?
Send 2.500 body bags as well.
Guido obviously had his own agenda when it came to the Irish vote. Hardly mentioned it once, like the BBC.
If I was part Irish and in to politics I would be speechless, personally. In shock. Mourning. PTSD and all that?
I don’t ever remember Marr asking any Liebour politicians how much they are worth? Blair, Hoon, Meacher, Harman, and many others are well loaded.
OT but isn’t Harman such a plain and unambiguous example to use when explaining what a runt is?
I want a hung parliament of labour twats and their scalps marinated in in a sauce of donkey piss and regurgitated pig intestines
…….For Sunday Lunch.
Sarah, Gordon wants to know what day of the week one has Sunday Lunch?
Gordon is permanently ‘out to lunch’.
Sarah will be serving up Sunday lunch with her wenches apron and matching expression. Servile, and loving – how she loves him, that large motherly figure of a farmer’s wife. The Yorkshires today are cooked to perfection, the apple pie sits nicely plump in it’s pyrex dish. sarah and gorgon, the perfect couple.
…and afterwards they go for a walk in his country with the dog in tow. “Ahhh my country, Sarah. I’m rich and I shall retire on the proceeds of the sale”
That manifestos got mileage, served with a red hot poker up the anus.
I think this week I’ll be eating mosty McDonalds.
…you goin’ roun’ Trevor’s, then?’
Any chance you could send me the recipe?
Take half-a-pound of gristle, mechanically-recovered ‘meat’, a few slivers of bone to add authenticity, and mince (for U.S. readers, ‘grind’). Add three-quarters of a pound of minced suet, two ounces of minced onion, four ounces of sawdust or other suitable filler, enough MSG, salt, pepper, and tabasco to mask the rancidity, mix well, and press into patties.
Fry the ‘ ‘burgers’ in lard, and place in Buns – or just stick them…
the sesame seeds are put to disguise the tit or willy pimps
More blatant Labour bias as Marr constantly heckles Cameron and asks questions he would never ask a Labour politician.
I am looking forward to the Tories slashing (or preferably scrapping) the licence fee when they get in next year and sorting out the BBC and it’s Labour bias once and for all.
Marr couldn’t heckle a dead sheep.
You see, what they should do is scrap the licence fee and let the bbc fail or compete on equal terms but allow the ‘BBC’ one radio station and a website-the senior management should be made up of cross party folk as board members to ensure integrity. They should only broadcast factural news.
Victory for Cameron. He kept his cool in the face of constant interruptions, heckling, and ridiculous questioning from Marr. Contrast that with Brown’s various meltdowns in interviews last week.
The Tories are well on course for a landslide in May, while Labour are reduced to fighting like ferrets in a sack again.
Are you really sure,I was quite happy to give Camo a hearing,after listening to him over the EU,I am back to being a floating voter.
I really do think it was a draw. I have never seen Marr so cranky and Dave so irritated. Very little further policy enlightenment came from the interview.
I thought Dave wanted to laugh at Marr throughout! And Marr’s performance was funny, wasn’t it?
Marr’s body language said it all — twisting and turning in his chair with his pugnacious little head down — Cameron looked chilled and laid back. It’s only when you see them together you realise what a tin pot specimen of manhood Marr is — what a nerd!
Extraordinary to think that two allegedly intelligent women would breed with him.
A voting floater more like.
Attack a voter,good way to keep them on your side.
Well, Gordon Brown has been attacking your wallet for years, to little effect, and you still haven’t woken up.
Go float.
Marr got more desparate for a soundbite mistake as the interview wore on with DC. He failed. Ironically he looked as agitated as GB last week. He and Polly did their level best to rubbish the start of the Tory conference – we know its going to be the dirtiest election ever but BBC extreme lefties are showing an absolute disregard for our country in their bias and corruption of opportunity. Expose the BBC bias!
Polly won’t like it!
Was the BBC cameraman still drunk from last night? When Cameron was in close up, the shot was constantly being adjusted and reframed, subtly distracting the viewer, throughout the interview. This doesn’t happen with other interviewees. I guess the BBC trying to portray Cameron as ‘shifty’
That was a trick complained about during the american election run up. Dodgy audio, etc, too.
Not only that but you could see reflections from the glass behind Dave of people moving around the studio . The studio technicians would have been well aware of this distraction but did nothing to adjust the lighting. Wonder why?
Indeed.
Cameron was sitting stock still but the edge of window frame was constantly coming in an out of shot. Most irritating and distracting… I’ll watch out for it next time he or any other Conservative’s interviewed, so thanks for the flag up.
Just give up BBC. It’s over.
Pickles saying the same thing over Lisbon,it’s sounding just like McSnot and co.
But presumably without the snot, which is a big bonus.
… or even, a big bolus.
Pickles, another fat fucking trougher and full of shit.
Lamp posts and piano wire, its the only we’ll get a referendum.
BBC = Blair Broadcasting Corporation, Brown Broadcasting Corporation so its got to be Balls or Bradshaw.
Bring out your dead. That’s how they NuLiebor select their leaders, very scientific
Well, for all the BBC bias – Sky’s leader on Dave is very negative too. Now why would that be?
Because that was probably the worst interview Dave has ever done. He was not straight with the viewer and the viewers know it. It is very disappointing to realise that Cameron seems to be a clone of Blair when it comes to spin
Cobblers. He gave Marr as good as he got. No, better, in fact. Marr came over as an anal retentive freak. “Yeah, but I got all this paperwork here.” as he rummaged through an ill-preprepared wodge of crap he had printed off.
Whatever the reason – when I flicked from Sky to News 24 an hour or something ago the Sky leader was more negative than the BBC one. But no one’s crying ‘SKY bias!!!’ Just wondered why. I know one’s taxpayer funded but I’d like to see a bit of objectivity now and again. Some people are so biased themselves that they are incapable of rational thought, and seem to want to see it manifest every/all the time. Which denotes a lack of intellect.
The BBC are more consistently and obviously biased. Does that answer your question?
I’ve aknowledged that. But leaping on every word uttered by an interviewer – whether biased or not – defeats the object and weakens the argument.
Calm down dear, it’s only a blog.
Good point.
Can you imagine Sir Robin Day scrabbling around notes for his facts and figures? He’d have done his homework and it would be in his head, fully prepared and ready to go.
Amateurs.
Exactly! And Sir Robin Day would have ensured his sources were not biased, or would have factored in any likelihood of bias before he used them.
Cos he hasn’t signed up for the full package and its only 60 pounds a month all in.
Just watched Frank Field being interviewed on Brown Broadcasting Corporation.
The guy talks a lot of sense,why are the Nuliebour parasites not listening to him.
Anyone else see it?.
Saw it too. A very good interview. Why Frank still hangs around NewLiebour is a mystery to me. He is a natural Tory, and should be head-hunter by CMD.
The trouble is Frank Field is a good, caring, sensible, thinking MP who doesn’t trough off the taxpayer.
That, of course, is why the Nuliebore parasites don’t listen to him!!!!
Why does he remain affiliated to that shower of shit ? He must know his party has been hi-jacked and ruined forever.
Five minutes of Frank Field’s lucid analysis (a short while ago on BBC-TV) of the very different types of people who end up temporarily, or long term unemployed, and a few likely ways of getting certain groups of them back to work speedily (acknowledging some of IDS’s ideas too) was worth the whole of that stalling and countering Marr/Cameron interview.
We need fewer ‘radishes’ and more like him.
Here is Mr Marr at this years Glastonbury eyeing up the talent
…http://www.flickr.com/photos/benglass/3675727185/
See:
http://order-order.com/2009/07/03/friday-caption-contest-glasto-edition/.
Why the silly prat?
I wish somebody had told me a pic of mine was on this site.
The Politics show appears to be bash the Conservatives show today.
No change there then.
Patriotic ,we posted at the same time and saw the same interview. Field very frequently talks sense.
I can’t remember was it Bliar who chose him to ‘think the unthinkable’ and then fired him when he did?
Yeah, unfortunately Field took him at his word. Oh dear.
Cameron might like to consider creating a poverty taskforce headed by Frank Field
To Bandersnatch.
Yes I remember the think the unthinkable.
Last year I sent an E Mail to Fields around the issue of tax and immigration.
The reply I got which I still have on record was:- If labour dont change we will hit the buffers big time.
Surely, it was a combustible Chancellor whose ‘Great Clunking Fist’ forced Bliar to ‘let Frank go’?
Derek Conway is still earning a nice fat living. What did MPs of all parties do about him?
Fuck all.
And now they pretend to offer a choice?
Another unbiased interview by Mr Marr!
Marr showed a short attention span. Unable to allow Cameron even seconds to answer a question…
Question.
Why aren’t we talking about this?
“Harman questioned over car crash ”
Women drivers huh?
Wimmin drivers shurely?
oi – leave women drivers alone. I’m perfectly fine on country roads. I don’t use a mobile phone and I avoid hitting anything.
I’m not much good at driving in town centres, coping with roundabouts or backing into single spaces but other than that I am perfectly capable.
Furthermore I have no driving convictions to my name despite the fact that I have been driving for hmmm decades.
harpy harriett has THREE driving convictions – one of them for doing 100mph down the A14!!!!!
ANDREW MARR,PLEASE PASS ME THE SICK BAG.
Methinks Marr needs some pills called anti joker ones.
Cameron in power will hopefully cut the BBC bias organisation down to size.
Marr came over as a bit of an idiot. Notice Cameron’s little dig back, though? A well-placed warning for Marr with his: “Oh, I am so holy!” attitude to not throw stones whilst living in his (Marr’s) large glass house?
But whilst Marr asks stupid questions: “Are you a toff?” the counselling scheme for traumatised soldiers has been stuffed by Brown and Ainsworth and democracy in Europe is dead!
The Weekender: Counselling scheme for traumatised soldiers fails, Tories to get Britain working, EU democracy dead, Boris says NO! to Blair for president and Brown even more crap than ever
OT: my suspicions have been confirmed: Obama wants to destroy Britain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217984/Humiliation-Gordon-Brown-US-plan-G4-elite-Britain.html
I know Brown and Darling are useless, but this action by Obama seems churlish.
Obama seems to have a split personality. Although British troops are good enough to get blown up and shot in operations with US armed forces, our diplomats are not good enough to sit with US diplomats.
Brown’s answer should be: “Fine, Mr President. If that is how you see Britain, our armed forces will be withdrawn from Afghanistan immediately.”
Obama is one dangerous son of a bitch. He’s Blair in a black skin – untouchable.
Oh-oh. I’ve been fcuked by Obama Beach.
Browns plan to make Britain into a third world country is working a treat.
No, he wants to destroy America. Britain’s long been finished.
Gordon Brown has beaten him to it
The Beeb have just repeated part of the Marr/Cameron interview, the bit where Dave talks about David Freud’s analysis of the ‘getting people back to work’ problem and his, Dave’s, intentions in the light of it, was not half bad… nowhere near as good as what Frank Field said, but maybe, on a second hearing, Cameron had the edge on Marr after all.
you ought to know, I was a fraud. just couldn’t get enough of family shagging.
Cut to pub in luvvie land. Marr holding court, beer supplied by fawning creeps, much hilarity and talks of good job, well done, that will show them.
Cut to pub in Labour heartland. Few punters, man comes in and tries to swap a ferret for a pint.
‘Fuck off Skinner says’ the landlord,’ pay cash like anyone else, you must have plenty.’
‘Did you see little Lord Fauntleroy Cameron on telly? Given a right seeing to by Marr.’
‘No, turned it off after the footie, do I look like a loser to you? Now here’s a cloth, clear the ferret shit up, fuck off and close the door on your way out.’
If Marr is so interested in a referendum on Lisbon, why did not he grill McMoron last week on why he reneged on the Labour comitment to have one.
Because he is a tithead?
Because like Toenails Robinson and John Pienaar, Marr is a Labour stooge.
Dave should have responded that he was worth a lot more than 30 Million before Brown fucked up the economy so much!!
Agreed. He missed another opo didn’t he.
So no referendum then.
What surprise!
Are you fucking stupid??? It was the current government that promised to deliver a referendum. They haven’t……..
Why not direct your sarcasm toward the one eyed pill popper, lord handlebum and the other liars…
Let’s get one thing straight -
in Labour’s Manifesto 2005 they categorically promised a referendum should there be any further constitutional proposed change to the European Union – when the Constitution was thrown out the eurocrats made a few subtle changes and brought back what was still the EU Constitution but this time called “The Lisbon Treaty” – Labour in their usual lying decietful way then backtracked on their promise citing that this was different to the proposed EU Constitution but then again when has any promise given by Labour ever been worth a lot anyway ?
The LibDems also promised a referendum on the EU Treaty in their manifesto – they also backed out and broke their promise
The Conservatives made a committment to hold a referendum in their 2005 Manifesto if elected but as they weren’t they couldn’t do a lot about it could they ?
The Conservatives have least been consistent unlike the Labour and LibDem Parties
Perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us as to how the Opposition can actually hold a referndum when they’re not in government ?? The failure of defending Britain lies squarely at the door of Brown and Labour aided and abetted by Clegg and the LibDems
Hear hear. But New Labour and the deluded idiots who still support them never let the facts get in the way of a good lie.
For me the New Labour party is synonimous with deceit on a grand scale. They behave just like the Nazis.
The BBC have dug up that old Tory europhile dinosaur Leon Brittan for a quote FFS. Who next, Lady Astor?
They’ll get a medium to see if they can get something from Winston Churchill!
On the eve of the Tory conference, BBC TV and radio programmes today are full of Labour politicians and even Farage from UKIP.
Prior to last weeks Labour conference the only politicians on the BBC were Labour ones.
I really want to know what Cameron is going to do about the BBC when he gets into no.10 next year.
I think it should be privatised. Broken up and Sold off. Maybe american and chinese interests would be interested in bidding for the various parts of it.
Whatever, we need to get rid of this BBC canker at the heart of our political system.
I see Guido’s attending some fringe meeting this week entitled “Disinfecting parliament or politics or something” – the BBC is right there at the heart of that question.
Shut the fucking place down. Immediately they get into power. Period.
His new boss President Blair would never allow it to happen.
I’m available.
oh well see if we can do anything with Wellingtons remains , at least he defeated a dictator
Arrogant Harriet Harman has a record of driving offences:
“In 2003, Harman was fined £400 and banned from driving for a week after being convicted of driving at 99mph on a motorway. She was also issued with a £60 fixed-penalty notice and three penalty points in April 2007 for driving at 50mph in a 40mph zone in the A14 in Suffolk.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/04/harriet-harman-car-crash
ah, another new labour serial offender.
harriet harman and baroness scotland both display a persistent disrespect for the law.
how very new labour.
That one in 2007 she never turned up to court and still got away with it (again)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482607/Labour-chief-Harriet-Harman-escapes-1-000-penalty-dodging-court-speeding-fine-row.html
I didn’t become an ex barrister MP not to be able to cock a snoop at the law.
Bloody women drivers
And they say she doesn’t like me ………..
I wouldn’t want to be driving with my wife and children in our car with the idea she’s on the road driving around without care or consideration for the plebs.
She’s wearing white plimsolls, now wonder she runs in to the back of other vehicles.
It was more likely the mobile phone conversation?
Euughh! Have the shades of the Deben Vale been thus polluted by that harridan?
Labour’s last desperate throw of the dice: get your pals in the meejah to try to invent a split amongst the Tories over Europe.
Pathetic. The sooner we get rid of this useless, dishonest, incompetent government and it’s repulsive leader, the better.
But there is a split.
No sorry there is not, as much as you wish there was
Good try though
I wish there was not a split but there is a split. And not talking about it helps no one. Dave has to fess up about his intentions on Europe so that people can either come to terms with it or look else where to pledge their political allegiance
In any other party it would be described as a healthy debate in the Tories its a ‘spilt’
No referendum. No vote
in labour manifesto still no vote
There is no split merely an enormous crack the size of the San Andreas fault. In fact the Titanic had less of a split in it then the present Conservative party and that was also completely sunk.
Marr interview was a bit rubbish , DC got no chance to for good PR , it was a grumpy marr for me, he should have let lisbon question go way earlier , there is a logic to camerons statement of wait and see , marr just chopped it up with interuptions so that no sound bites could come out it . I expected him to go on bullingdon days and er alledged lines , and he weaved it in a bit , but then why ask him a question on his personal wealth ?? It all started looking a bit desperate from then on as marr couldnt get dave to lose his temper , quotes from 2006 about him being pro lite touch regulation , were all out of context , papers atrted going all over the place , and oh weve run out time there you are Dave I stuffed you didnt I . I dont think the public (not that many watch the marr show ) got any chance to see that the conservatives had some new ideas or had modernised ,or were now ready to tackle labours social problems .
If marr can only come up with tory toff , bullingdon member then all i can think is labour must be so mad that they have cocked it up (and they have its a right ole mess) and the tories have got there act together .
marr and toynbee didnt see or speak it was corrupt , that labour were consistantly lying , nothing from marr on continual none answering of question in parliament , so hes bang out of order on running these stories .
As parliamentary corruption and debt is down to his party , too late to shout toffs when labour have wasted a decade of wealth for the social night mare we now have .
marr is becoming sour grapes
Marr wa nly doing his job. Dave as the next PM has got to be able to do tough interviews, it comes with the job. In short it wasn’t Dave’s finest hour but as he is only in opposition at the moment he still has time to learn from his mistakes.
yes but you can understand why he is so aggressive with the tories and so easy going with new labour: under a new labour government andrew ‘war criminal apologist’ marr has been allowed by the powers that be to run his own sordid sex harem without being exposed as the degenerate sex addict he is.
of course as soon as the new labour warmongers are kicked out of office all their lackeys will be without the protection the establishment has provided to hide their nasty habits.
let’s face it, andrew marr is an ugly, big eared c’unt. it’s the same sketch with nick ‘down’s syndrome eyes’ robinson; both of them look like fucking retards for fucks sake; there is no doubt in my mind that these c’unts would not have got any pussy or expensive wines and meals or access if it were not for the fact that they were quite willing to act as a pair of new labour war party apologists and propagandists.
andrew marr is a degenerate whose sins and character faults have been hidden until now under a veneer of breathtaking hypocricy.
British people do not like hypocrites like marr, a person who questions the integrity of others while he himself organises wife swapping sex sessions.
marr is scum.
deserves hanging really.
Some truth in that tat, nicely put as usual.
He let it go only because he knows Channel 4 is going to do a hatchet job on Cameron and Boris the night before Cameron’s speech next week with their drama doc.
“Marr was only doing his job.”
Yeah, as a Labour apparatchik.
And of course he was only doing his job of trying to save his own skin by scoring an own goal last week.
he’s a dimwit but no-one is going to grovel for the Conservatives or Labour any more
this isn’t the 1950′s with Chumley Warners asking Politicians “could you please tell the great british public your wonderful plans for the country again ?”
This was a very poor performance by Cameron. He really hasn’t got much to offer, he’s got the chinless wonderboy at his elbow, and he’s facing the Thatcher legacy in the north and midlands, where the Iron Lady so wrecked lives that many simply wont’ vote Tory for fear of a repetition. Though they will probably win, a Conservative victory is far from certain because the herberts running the Tory party really are poor indeed.
You’ve obviously got a sneak look at the polls before he’s made his big conference speech. Clever.
Edward Heath to you.
Cameron’s performance was a million times better than Brown last week.
Whoooops
Obama is going to start a G4. Comrising America, Japan, China and the Eurozone countries (those using the Euro) So Gordon won’t get an invite. Interestingly if it were just single countries then Britain would be in the G4 as we are number 4 in the world.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217984/Humiliation-Gordon-Brown-US-plan-G4-elite-Britain.html
Noooo I’ll chase you through the kitchen again
So no referendum then eh Davey Boy?
Come on it’s a simple fecking question you snake eyed gimp!
I’ll give you an answer when I’m PM. Now fuck off.
You can have my UKIP vote after you become PM. Put that on yer bike and poke it.
You stupid boy.
I meant to say You stupid boy-vote UKIP at the next election and the one after that and beyond.
Speaking of stupid boys…………reading an article in the Sunday Times about new MI6 boss. Somebody referred to Dave Millipede as an ALPHA MALE. Hahahaha
He couldn’t get that prominent a role even in an episode of t’ Magic Roundabout
Yes, he promised it alright. And now he seems to be equivocating. Hmmmmm. Surely not a portent….
What part of, “….if the Treaty hasn’t been ratified,” don’t you understand?
Moron.
Our country has just suffered a decade of the most evil government in our history.
Why? Because you Tories where the alternative.
Under those conditions, next time my football team fucks up, they can blame me for being a spectator.
Vote UKIP. Please:)
I loved Samantha Cameron’s reaction when Sky’s John Craig asked her if David was her hero.
She just looked up and rolled her eyes. Very funny.
Sarah Brown was so ridiculous. Fancy saying that ‘gordon was her hero’ in public!!!!!
What man wants his wife to appear in public, just before he does, to say, look I know he’s incompetent and disliked but please be kind to him.
What a wimp that makes him look!!! How would Mrs T or Churchill have looked if their spouses had pleaded with public opinion in this way!!!!
Behind every great man there is a great woman, Brown doesn’t qualify as a great man, and poor Sarah has a great burden to bear…..her husband.
She was lying.
From hero to zero, all in a very short timeframe.
sarah brown is now fair game.
her political interventions on her husband’s behalf mean that politically speaking she should no longer be treated as a civilian but as a legitimate target.
BBC radio 4, true to form have just repeated a programme about Sarah ‘Fergusson’. She was depicted as a very nice gal!
She was of course a high profile and successful PR lady.
Just the sort of really useful person gordon needed when he knew he must marry in order to successfully campaign to become the PM.
I was absolutely struck by his unemotional acknowledgement of Sarah’s ‘hero worship’ of him, on BBC News. He sounded as if he was talking about some of those tractor stats he’s so fond of.
The answer being NO of course.
Very poor interview.
What a weak man, he fell at the first hurdle.
All bluff without any substance.
This will now run and run and overshadow the conference.
Empty promises!
Your medication is being prepared, and will be administered shortly an sharply.
I presume you’re talking about gordon’s interview last week with Adam Boulton.
It has certainly made history as the most cringeworthy interview any PM has ever done. I have no doubt it will become a classic piece for debate in political science for many years to come.
‘How not to do it’
It will indeed – but it assumes greater significance put in the context of the other ranting interviews of GB
No, it wasn’t Adams interview wot done it, It was Sian Willams’ interview. She tore him to shreds! And from hot totty too!
What day to take off next week to tune in to the Conservative AGM. I want to hear about europe referendums and our independent sovereignty
Yes it was Sian Williams’ interview that did it. Her questions were probing, but she was so polite when asking them, that Gordon’s responses seemed even worse than usual. He came over as the rude and arrogant man he truly is.
‘Apparently’ he finds women rather difficult. Feels ill at ease in their company.
Well we might, but on the other hand we might not, only one policy at a time!
Ask me something else, something I can avoid answering less obviously.
Labour bad, us Tories good, not sure how though.
Yes my second home has a big mortgage, not to worry though the taxpayer is paying for it as I’m claiming maximum expenses. Don’t want to dip into the £30,000,000.
Hahahahaha god you are so funny you should be in pr for gorddy or a ditch that contains more crap than you either works for me !.
It’s Europe, Toffs & Fox Hunting – that’s NuLiebor’s attack
Pathetic
Nothing new there then !!
Trouble is the Toffs in England now are not tories – they are the “labour elite” –
Prezza – Harpyharriett – Tone – Mandy with his multi millionaire properties and £21K watch – bob aintbustinagut sitting on his millionaire property portfolio , the balls who’ve double troughed probably enough to see them through to old age if they don’t get elected next time around and on and on…..
Never let the facts get in the way of a bit of honest bullshit eh?
Well Ed ( or your minions/Ishat/Damian) Is anything said in 413 above not true?
If so tell us about it.
Goodness me lots of trolls here today
I wonder why. Normally appear when the Tories are on a roll.
They’re afraid their gravy train is soon going to crash.
And they’re still trying to deflect attention from their mega theft of the public purse and their complete disregard of the laws they have bound the rest of us with.
I see lots of people who thought Cameron sounded like a weasel on Lisbon
But of course for the Cameroonian spinners and party drones that is not simply acceptable since they are stupid enough to believe Guido’s site is the personal property of Mr Cameron all of a sudden
You fuck up you get called out for it
Gordon did last week, Cameron did this week
If you are as thin-skinned as Gordon when it comes to criticism, if you can’t take any criticism of Labour or the Conservatives, then do us all a favour and fuck off to Labourlist or Conservativehome
Well if he can’t cope with Andrew Marr how the feck is he going to deal with Paxo?
He must stop all the blustering.
Straight answers to straight questions!
Stop bullshitting! Stop saying “This is important” “The public want to know this”
Just answer the question!!!
Or else it will be “Defeat grabbed form the jaws of victory!”
gordon is the jaws of defeat for labour. Don’t worry.
John Green Hhahahahaha Just answer the question!!!!!
you surely must be talking about McHero
Brown has been in government for nigh on 13 years. and I can’t remember him being interviewed by Paxman in all of that time, the fucking coward.
Gordon is becoming very precious. All interviews in future will be on his terms only, and only about Labour policy, otherwise interview over. I remember from the Sky interview with Boulton, I, I, I, I, etc etc, Brown is the party and the policies are Brown’s, he has made that quite clear, he exists to save Britain from itself.
M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m Mister Speaker !!!!!
Don’t worry Paxo’s lost his sting. Must be the newlabour party conference, put him off politics for life.
No, it was the thrashing Galloway gave him.
Nobody with any sense tries to answer unanswerable questions.
Ten American troops were killed at the weekend in two surprise attacks that caused alarm in Nato’s US-led coalition.
In one, hundreds of insurgents attacked a pair of isolated outposts in eastern Afghanistan, killing eight US soldiers and several Afghan policemen in the deadliest battle in 15 months. Scores more Afghan policemen were reportedly captured by the Taleban.
In the other an Afghan policeman opened fire on the American soldiers with whom he was working in central Wardak province, killing two and injuring three.
It was unclear whether the policeman was working for the Taleban or simply ran amok but the attack fuelled the distrust that many Nato soldiers already feel for the Afghan security forces that they are supposed to be working with and training as part of the coalition’s eventual exit strategy.
The Afghan police are corrupt scum.
Unlike the British Government.
Can’t we just nuke the place and lay the pipelines with robots and engineers in NBC suits?
We are told that only Nazis enjoy killing on the mass scale you suggest.
They did that to the Russians, too. Classic assymetrical. Infiltrate police, army and strike from within. Creates havoc in morale as every NATO soldier is constantly looking at his ‘Afghan’ partner in a fire fight wondering if….
Andrew Marr lives near me. Once I decide what to write on it I think I’ll go and throw a brick through his window.
smashing !!
DD’s – Bricks for Pricks – Campaign lunched here!
First make sure that the window’s closed – it’s noisier that way !!!
That’s a bit silly ain’t it? Now you have told every reader on GF he will know the brick has been thrown by Desperate Dan
Some of you lot are pretty thick. Down in the bunker we have a good old (and rare these days) giggle seeing the anti EU loons do all they can to weaken the Tory vote and play into our hands. As for UKIP, Gordon loves you guys, he reduces his pill intake on days when you goons get headlines. BTW, have you spanners noticed the fresh from the bunker bogus posters stirring it up today? Boy, are we getting dirty
Yeah, and they’re all just as shite as they ever were.
anyone want me? did you call?
Brown will never take part in a debate live on TV. There will be lots of excuses, he will object to everything under the sun. It will turn into the “Dave and Nick Show”, and the elephant who is not in the room.
BBC reporting that the SNP may mount a legal challenge if they aren’t invited too. Bring ‘em all in, Monster Raving Loonies as well. Still a waste of energy…
SNP aren’t standing in every constituency. They only field candidates in Scotland. Only parties that already have seats and are fighting all (or nearly all) seats across the UK, should be invited IMHO
Oh no! Did you have to mention the elephant? Just as I had got the image out of my head of that cartoon of Question Time where Brown ends up being rodgered on the table by an elephant.
Camerons are worth millions but take on an unnecessary mortgage to maximise expenses claims, troughers
Lets all get a reality check,forget Lisbon We need to focus on paying our debts off cutting spending massively,living within our means,dismantling the client state getting the feckless bastards back to work,getting a proper plan & exit straegy together for Afghanistan,and showin everybody where the billions went & exposing the “ponsi ” scam that was new labour !!
Sorry 3 pts of Timmy Taylors at lunch makes me rant !
If Lisbon goes ahead we won’t have to worry about any of that, someone else will worry about it for us.
Possibly true but bang on about it too much & the issuses will be dealt with by “Ball up” or milliband C*** twins !
Have no fear, El Presidente will take control.
two words
President Blair
If that doesn’t bother you then you must be either Ken Clarke or Leon Brittan
The thing i find most dispiriting about the referendum that’ll never happen is that all politicians of any colour tacitly accept that the UK population will clearly vote against it. It it irrelevant whether that is a good thing or not. They have knowingly prevented the voters from expressing their opinion, and have no credible reason for doing so.
That is the only reason they have avoided it to date, and the main reason we will never get one. Whatever my opinion of the EU, Lisbon and so on, our supposed public servants have deliberately and cynically forced a treaty through against the obvious will of the people. For that attack on democracy alone they should never be forgiven.
that’s because the majority of U.K voters are too ignorant to understand what they are voting for.
With that attitude do you work/trough at the Palace of Westminster? Yes, the average person looks to his/her own circumstance before they vote – that is democracy. By assuming the majority are too ignorant, I assume you mean a)they won’t vote the way you want and b)you consider yourself superior.
Freedom includes the freedom to take the consequences. People should be free to make mistakes. If the case for or against is so compelling in any argument then it should have nothing to fear from an electorate.
The sad thing is that the Faceless Bureaucrats of Brussels would probably make a much better fist of governing the country than our ‘democratic’ politicians. The psephological accident that propels a Blair or a Cameron into power with about 25% of the population voting for their party, just because that party happens to be fashionable with the media for the time being, doesn’t equip them to run anything. Still less does a palace coup of the sort that brought Brown to power give him any mandate or ability. The seasoned professionals in Brussels and Strasbourg might do a decent job.
Of course, Brussels is deeply corrupt and would become much more so if it became all-powerful. Nevertheless, if we prove incapable of governing ourselves, as we have done in recent years, we will have to let somebody else do it.
Possible solutions: more referndums; Parliamentary sessions made shorter and all MPs required to have a proper second job; clearing out the political advisers and returning power to elected MPs and professional civil servants; all of the above.
Marr’s performance was very disappointing. He kept interupting Cameron, shifted a lot, got angry, repeated questions that Cameron had already answered and reheated dull prejudice about Cameron’s student days and wealth. So what if he used to dress up in white tie and tails? Blaming the Tories for the current rising unemployment was frankly ridiculous. How many houses do you own would have been a better question than how much are you worth. Cameron and his family have done well as business people, as long as they’ve paid all their taxes, their financial business is their financial business and no one else’s. It doesn’t effect how he will do the job as Prime Minister, unlike Gordon’s addiction to anti-depressants and tranquilisers.
Cameron did well. I thought he kept his calm and looked authoritive and in control, very different to moody Gordon on repeated occasions last week. He answered the endless Europe questions well. He left no one in any doubt that he is against the Lisbon Treaty and President Blair. He can’t overturn Labour’s decision to ratify the treaty until he is elected. I thought he talked a lot of sense about benefits. We are paying far too much money to people who are work shy and playing the system, but this government loves them because they are their core vote. Most importantly of all, Cameron highlighted the elephant in the room that Gordon and his mates always chose to ignore, that our national debt is rapidly spirling out of control. Dave is our only hope against national bankruptcy.
Are the Sun going to come out FOR the EU, or against?
Barefootcontessa. That’s a good question. If it is to be illegal to criticise or badmouth the EU.
Dictatorships don’t like a vast free press and as seen in Ireland-most if not all MSM was towing the EU line: then there won’t be much need for so many media outlets in Ireland either?
Davey Boy Conman now comes under scrutiny and falls flat on his face!
Watch this space whilst the Tory faithfull start all their U turns.
ie Let’s forget about the Lisbon treaty etc. etc. etc.
Fucking priceless!!!
Troll
Troll’s will be banned in my Europe, tough on trolls tough on the causes of trolls.
In my eutopia I will ban microlite aircraft. Either that or I will give an eussr grant to a facist corporation of mine to invent a big fly swat.
Did you enjoy our U-turn on ID cards ?? If you ever become a taxpayer, that will cost you.
Not priceless, just pricey.
U Turn to where? Back to failed labour?
Yes good plan . Let’s give gordon another five year term.
Yes Please gordon introduce some more of your creative stealth taxes. Take some more of our pensions. Employ another 600,000 in government non-jobs. Encourage another 500,000 teenage girls into motherhood with generous benefits. Keep our troops dying in Afghanistan without back-up or proper kit. Keep on alienating world leaders with your idiocy until we are completely sidelined. Keep raising taxes and NIC. Keep banging on about man-made climate change even though you know nothing about the science of the problem. And don’t forget keep on with your ‘spend,spend,spend’ policy at least until we have beaten Zimbabwe to those gates of economic destruction!!!!
Nell, you forgot. Labour can’t afford another 600,000 non-jobs any more than the Tories can.
Cameron this morning did answer one question without spin. If we don’t get the deficit down and down pretty damn quick, the consequences will be cataclysmic. You won’t get any health service, you won’t get any dole, you won’t get nay education system, you won’t get anything from Government.
The money well has run dry for UK plc. The only way Brown is funding the deficit now is by printing. Without the BoE buying the Government’s debt, the whole facade would have imploded.
Remember it. And remember it well.
RVW. I agree .
gordon has left Cameron/Osborne a poisoned chalice.
Mrs T inherited the same thing from a labour government too. She turned it around after a lot of grief. I’m just hoping Cameron can do the same.
It wasn’t an interview it was an audition. Marr is hoping Gordon’s minders will choose him for the three-way interviews.
i sat there waiting to here Cameron and all i got was the Marr show Pathetic Labour lackey
The BBC likes to claim that Paxman’s finest hour was when he asked the same question over the over again for 17 times. (I thought what a dimwit, can’t he think of anything else to ask)
Andrew Marr obviously admires this sort of waste of broadcasting time and thought he’d bore the audience rigid by asking the same question 50 times – or that’s what it felt like.
And why he wasted half the interview on a question which the vast majority of voters really don’t give a shit about.
Most normal people care about cutting the insane waste of our money, the big nanny state attitude and rising crime, it’s only the media and UKIP who care about Europe above anything else.
Dan Han and Ken Clarke will never agree on the EU, in the same way that Blair and Kinnock wouldn’t agree on much either!
President Blair
the public does care about being run by Europe and even those who usually don’t give a shit very quickly will when President Blair appears
I’m really going to enjoy the next few years.
Watching you Tories squirm and give up on all your so called principles.
Opposition is easy, now the light is going to be firmly on Tory policy, or the lack of it.
Can’t wait to read all the inventive excuses!
only one excuse needed – there’s nothing we can do, it’s all decided by Europe.
Can Cameron from Brown’s Encyclopaedia of lame excuses ?
e.g. ‘It started in America’; ‘ I’ve only been doing this job for five days ‘ etc.etc.
yeah i bet your looking forward to doing what labour do best, take the easy road out before the sh*t hits the fan and sit on the back benches blowing hot air and lie constantly and never have to be in the tough position of sorting everything out.
Yes, John! It’s so easy the Labour government are now claiming to be the opposition as well as the government.
“We are insurgents!”
I think most of the inventive stuff has been delivered in the past 12 years
I now know where my vote is going
The name of the party begins with a B and ends with a P
Most of the Afro Carib folk in my neck of the woods are both British and Nationalists and their have been here for generations, most also happen to be devoutly Christian. Hindus also feel the same way.
If a certain party held out its hand to other races rather than to cretins
It could make real pregress.
They have been forced to by the ECHR to open up the membership, whether they survive the trails they are currently in even by doing this is another thing completely though.
there may not be a party by next year to vote for cause they may be bankrupted completely by the EU by then.
Question to Dave – Are you worth £30million?
Answer should have been – No I’m not but I know a man who is. The last leader of the Labour Party is now so wealthy that most of his taxpayer funded wealth is kept abroad to avoid paying taxes and inheritance tax under the legislation that he introduced.
And let’s not forget we, the taxpayer are still paying £500k a year for the blairs security and body guards. Not to mention bliars pensions etc.
Question should have been:
Why, when you’re worth millions, do you take on an unnecessary mortgage, is it to maximise what you can claim on expenses?
nope the Question should be why are you d*cking around on this blog? and not helping our lord and master crush the poor broken peasants of this once great land ! oh great thinker and font of all pineapples El Presidente!
don’t worry, I’m working on it.
515 El Presidente – Working on it??
The only thing tone, brown, mandy or their cohorts are working on at the moment is where they can get the most money from the taxpayer after labour lose the next election.
prezza thinks he’s going to become an International Star, touring the world talking on ‘man-made’ climate change. He doesn’t understand the science (bless!) but it’ll be a good money earner.
Dave Militwit wants to go the the UN – because he knows he can earn more taxpayers money (salary plus expenses) there than he ever did as foreign secretary.
We already know tone and his ‘beautful’ wife think they are going to become first ‘lord and lady of europe’ with the salary and expenses fit for an emperor and entourage.
mandy is hoping to become tone’s Foreign Minister with a gold plated palace in Corfu or somewhere similar.
And gordon is planning on becoming the Chancellor of the World with the G20 .
Oh Yes this labour manure think they’ve got it made – when they lose the next election.
Wait a minute didn’t labour say they were about representing the poor?
What a laugh!!!
CAMERON = FAKE
Really?god you’d never tell he looks so life like !
the waxy sheen gives it away though
gordon, of course, with his max factor make-up and tendency to hide under the table when the going gets tough is genuine?
He sure is – genuine idiot , genuine liar, genuine fool, genuine bully…………….
I want to know what it is the elderley journalist was referring to when he said “the electorate will get incensed with rage when we find out about it”. “It” is being supressed by a court ruling apparently. What is it?
What.
That was Harold Evans and he said someone had taken out an injunction against a newspaper to stop the publication of something that the public ought to know about. He said the newspaper concerned wasn’t even allowed to say that an injunction had been taken out against them.
I think Guido should contact Harold Evans to get the details and offer to publish whatever it is online.
There was a link in the previous blog to this one, something about a paedophile network. Or perhaps it’s the HSBC/Goldman Sachs figures about what’s really happened to the UK economy — meltdown.
or get a journo abroad to contact him about this.
The only reason i’ll vote Tory is if they do three things;
1. wipe out the bbc
2. scrap most of labours laws
3. get the nation back on track economically
But you have to vote for them FIRST so that they can do that.
It’s nice to see a few Labour supporters posting here. It’s like being at a home football match where there is a small knot of away supporters of some hopeless little club at the bottom of the table. You can’t help having a feeling of admiration, liking even, for them for staying so loyal. Even so, you sing:
“You’re shit and you know you are (you’re shit..)
“You’re shit and you know you are…” etc., de capo al fine.
the small knot of deluded tory fans at the other end are amusing too, the rest of us just look on with contempt and sing quietly to ourselves, “troughers to left, troughers to the right, here I am…”
Are all you trolls on overtime? Well at least it will only be for this week when you will then realise the Labour game is over and finished once and for all.
Call an election if you have the balls but you do’t you snivelling little shit
yeah great, let’s swap one bunch of self interested troughers for another bunch of self interested troughers
Can’t quite understand the focus on Tory policy toward Europe when we all know that Little Georgies priority will be a trade treaty with Columbia.
Conmans new sound bite:
“This is it!”
No Dave, this is definitely not it.
This is SHITE Dave and you’ve fucked up big time.
Even your faithfull supporters are beginning to see ther cracks appearing after just one interview.
Bring on Paxman!!!
“For the 40th time are the Tories going to have a referendum on Lisbon if the Treaty has already been ratified?”
Poor old Dave doesn’t seem to know. Still as he says one policy at a time, and the Tories do only have one policy. don’t answer a direct question!
I refer TTS to the question I gave the answer to earlier.
You are referring to McFuckwit who have never answered a question at any time and stole the very promised referendum on Liesbon from the electorate.
What Cameron will do after its ratified by this governmnet by using stealth methods is quite frankly academic until we find ourselves in that position. If Labour had the courage they would either give us back the referendum or call an election and allow the Tories to do so. They will do neither and ensure the worse possible poistion is achieved which is why so may hold them in utter contempt,
WHERES MY FUCKING VOTE !!! Thats the question Labour should be asked.
PS Has the fuckwit told us how he intends halving the borrowing debt in 4 years. Nope!
Of course if he and Hague can see a way around this, they won’t be giving the game away now, 7 months is plenty of time to close any escape routes we have and Cameron’s not in power yet.
My first reaction was outrage and frustration with their stance, but now I see they’re playing whatever cards they do have (and there must be some) close to their chests.
I may be a senior citizen, but I understood perfectly what David Cameron was saying and why he was saying it. He’s playing the long card. Why should be commit himself further than promising us a referendum if the Treaty is not ratified? One step at a time is all that is neccessary for a party that is not in government.
We’ll get no referendum from slippery Dave, despite his fine words.
We got none from Brown, despite his manifesto promise.
Since 70% of our laws being made in Belgium seems perfectly acceptable to these two parties of prevaricating, thieving troughists, can anyone tell me what’s going to change after the election?
Don’t bother.
Nothing.
You are most unfair. Under Gorgeous George the overseas aid budget will be redirected to Columbia.
Yes, you said that before.
The thieving lying scumbags of Labour won’t be in power thats enough for now
Are lying Tory scumbags better?
One of the things that will happen,the EUSSR will take out a layer of the political pond and that layer will be the MP’s,they already have MEP’s and the county council and regional goverments in place,this will happen when the EUSSR is sure of it’s stranglehold of this fair isle
Alright, alright, I’ve got a deal with the big chees in Czech land, he’s gonna hold it up until we get in then I’m gonna sort out the referendum and stop Lisbon in its tacks. Just between you and me though, if it gets out we’ve done a deal he won’t be able to hold out.
Watched Eric Pickles on The Politics show.
He was dreadful, looked like he was going to fall asleep.
Is he ill???
boring……
Thick
Most definitely ill the result of years of grotesque, disgusting gluttony at the taxpayers expense. This Pork Barrel on legs is long overdue a heart attack and probably won’t make it to the next election. The European Union Commission and President Blair can eat him at the next EU summit Hog Roast celebrating the completion of their new Constitution. .
There is a rumour that he doesn’t eat much, but hasn’t learnt how to shit.
whereas Prezza eats shit and hasn’t learnt much
I’m amazed that in this tv age he hasn’t been forced onto a diet- i’m a bit overweight but that guy just takes it too far, he must be eating literally every moment he isn’t on tv. Please, callmedave, put him on a diet.
Headline on Sky:-
‘David Cameron has again refused to commit to a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, even if it is ratified by the rest of the EU,
Anyone spot the deliberate error?
Yes
what can you do though?
Comma after EU instead of full stop?
I commented on this on the Sky website. They did not publish my comment, but they have changed the headline-so we can hold these people to account!
It has become quite clear to the British public Brown cannot be trusted.
It is becoming clearer Cameron cannot be trusted either.
Facts:
Tax is going up hugely, for all
Less money in your pocket means a stalling recovery
The banks are reluctant, and will contiune to be reluctant to lend
Brace yourselves for a lower standard of living. We are in a bull trap and those out there of you who contue to borrow money to buy those things that are nice to have but unnecessary to have will be hurt first.
This is the time to pay off your debts. Should you not have debts wait awhile longer, deflation is with us for another 12 months or so. Then, my learned friends, you will see inflation come through the system.
Oh and before you think inflation will erode your debt, it only will if you enjoy wage inflation. With 3,000,000 plus out there on benefits I’m sure at least one of them will undercut you in a split second for your job.
I hate to say it but Cameron appears almost a socialist, the Lib Dems further left and the Prime Mentalist a fascist.
Move along, nothing new from the Tories.
Hear Hear
Hatred at the wheel means hazard on the course.
President elect Blair must be wort a good £30 million, thats socialism for you.
Anyone know anymore about Alistair Campbell’s injunction against the Sunday Times?
UKIP and Labour trolls getting increasingly desperate.
There’s going to be no split in the Tory party over Europe so you might as well give up trying to invent one.
I was thinking we have too many Conservative trolls here today,please use a name instead of anonymous ,it’s getting to hard to figure out who’s calling who.
The Labour troll rate is pretty high at the moment for predictable and grubby reasons. Most of it is pretty transparent and some of them like to dress up as UKIP. Awwwww…how sweet
But MB’s mum we have the Labour trolls all the time,they usually come with a name,I can’t keep up with the anons today, any debate (joke) gets lost in the chaos of school boy/girl name calling.
Yes you are correct. There is no way that any once shall split the Tory Party over Europe. David has told us what is what and it is a waste of air going over and over it. He is the leader and that is his job. – To lead us into the future. There is no choice except for voting Conservative at the next election. Europe is best for Britain. Britain will not tolerate disenters and he won’t either. What he tells us is for your best.
PS: I forgot to add that UKIP will be illegal under Lisbon, etc so not worth voting for. They will go out of date anyway once the last general election has been and gone.
They’re all the same.
Heath, Thatcher, Major, Brown have successively handed the reins of power in this country to a small group of minor politicians in Belgium. 70% has now gone.
There’ll be no change under Cameron. The betrayal will continue.
God help us.
Go back to you’re constituencies and prepare for serfdom.
Interesting!
http://www.labour.org.uk/the-leaders-debate
Last week we came together as a party to debate the choice for Britain.
In the next few months I will tour the country, meeting the people of Britain to explain our policies, not just on economic recovery and Afghanistan, but from Sure Start and school standards to social care, the NHS, and action on anti-social behaviour.
I will visit every region and every city to speak to people and discuss with the people of the country the choices we face.
I have already said that we are facing the first General Election of the global age. In it the choices are great: between different directions for our country, different choices about economic progress, different philosophies about the future of our public services, different pathways in our relationship with Europe and the rest of the world.
In momentous times like these, the choices cannot be small choices with small consequences: they are big choices with big consequences. The choices we make in the next year will define the future of our country, not just for five years, but for a generation to come.
So I believe it is also right that the parties debate the issues not just in Parliament but in every arena where the public will join in the discussion.
It is right that we set the issues before the British people. Others can work out the details but what’s important for the country is that there is a wide ranging series of television and radio debates with party leaders that are also able to devote attention to the central issues that matter to families: the economy, public services, how we strengthen our communities, and how we work with the rest of the world.
It is right that there will be a strong focus on the leaders’ debates and it is right that in a Cabinet system of government that ministers and opposition ministers also debate the issues in a series of debates on television and radio too.
I relish the opportunity of making our case directly to the people of this country.
Gordon Brown
Will he bollox, he’ll be sat there with puppet crowds shipped in from every part of the country and UAF body guards to beat up any crowds who heckle him.
like North Korea etc. etc.
A generation to come?
This is the guy who reneged on the promise of a referendum on something that’s going to affect us for all bloody time.
What a cheek.
Yeah,what a losd of bollocks.
During the grand tour will he talk about what happened in the past 12 years, who was in charge during that time, and who introduced the myriad policies he talked of overturning in his conference speech. For example, what genius thought ID cards would be a good, cheap and effective idea?
“I will tour the country”
On second thoughts maybe this is Peter M’s grand plan to have him taken out by some disgruntled taxpayer, thereby achieving all of the following in one fell swoop:
1. martyrdom and the ending of the personal misery of fame and frontline politics for G Brown
2. closure, disposal tarbaby-style of the Maximum Rain Man, and the coveted PM spot for a few months for Lord Mandy
3. a chunky payout and pension for life for Sarah, still young enough to out the horrors of the past few years behind her and reintroduce herself to the concept of a relationship with the concept of a romantic evening that is not a noisy smelly man chasing her round the bedchamber with a turkey baster.
OOps…
3. a chunky payout and pension for life for Sarah, still young enough to out the horrors of the past few years behind her and reintroduce herself to the concept of a romantic evening that is not a noisy smelly man chasing her round the bedchamber with a turkey baster.
Hey Tuscan Tony, didn’t you offer a bet that Gordon would be gone by now? In “three days” I think…
That’ll be a tenner you owe me. Chop chop.
I was waiting for the call, Frank. The nasal recycler survived my expectation, does Western Union work for you?
In what sense has the world suddenly become round?
“the first General Election of the global age”
Could Marr please ask McDoom to explain what this means?
For once I am not being sarcastic or making cheap cracks at Mr. Brown’s expense. I simply do not understand in what sense the ‘age’ has become ‘global’ in a way which it wasn’t five years ago.
Softly, softly catchee monkey.
Even Brown could hardly say, “I’ve seen the future and it works; welcome to the New World Order”.
More like the Hotel California: you can check out any time you like but you can never leave.
Blair and Brown did a couple of these. I covered one for a local paper. It was just the usual local Labour Party members pretending to be the public.
“There’s going to be no split in the Tory party over Europe so you might as well give up trying to invent one”
Oh please, what planet are you living on ?
Of course there is a split in the Tory party over Europe. Nothing new in that but clearly it is down to how Camoron manages it!
Promising a referendum with a massive caveat is not going to be good enough I’m afraid.
Camoron knew he would not have to act on his promise and that will alienate the right wing eurosceptics.
Camoron is Blair mark 2. Welcome to Blairworld!
Isn’t it a healthy sign for a democracy that there are differing opinions in a political party about different issues? Surely this is better than being a bunch of identikit robots spouting identical pre-programmed party lines like Labour?
At least Cameron has the guts to try and lead the nation on this major constitutional matter, and to get stuck into the heart of the European project. And he’s not even in government.
Compare this to Brown, who simply rolled over, signing the Treaty shamefully in a lonely darkened backroom with Miliband, away from the cameras and his European peers, denying the British people (HIS people as he so often proclaims) their promised referendum.
Labour are just as split over Europe, and the unions don’t like many aspects that cover employment.
Marr’s interview technique when up against Brown:
‘Sit back, say nothing, look totally overawed, let him quote tractor production statistics ad infinitum’
Marr’s interview technique when up against Cameron:
‘Interrupt him constantly, don’t let him complete a single sentence, goad him until he looks like he is going to thump you’
Yes, I would invite the supreme BBC luvie to view the Brown interview and the Cameron one back to back, look up impartial in the dictionary, then disappear up his own arse [for a change].
I am sure the two interviews will be brought out after the next GE, when it will be retribution time….
As part of the evidence presented to the commission deciding on the future (or not) of the BBC, hopefully.
Think you are a little biaised ther Fees Office Clerk.
Truth is Marr stuffed him like a fucking turkey because he wouldn’t answer a question that should have been easy for him to answer. After that he was always on the back foot and looked shifty.
Camoron was pathetic. I mean really pathetic. So much for straight talking.
Remember this only the start , wait until the campaign really kicks in.
Referendum or no referendum? Camoron knows but daren’t say! Wimp!
Marr behaved like he’d been rogered all night by Alistair Campbell.
You either have personal experience or a wider imagination then my own!
What have I told you about spouting all that socialist nonsense on the t’internet.
This is an outrageous accusation and completely untrue. Mark Oaten will back me up all the way.
Up to the hilt. Preferably whilst reposing under a glass topped table, too.
You mean like an Alice Miles turkey,shame on you that jug eared arsehole Marr couldn,t interview a microcephelous idiot,turned it off halfway through and peeled some spuds far more productive than watching that halfwit babble on about how much are you worth.
Cameron should have pinned his ears back and replied something like “I thought this was a serious interview but now that I see you are being flippant you can pursue political issues or end this interview right now,your choice”.
If Cameron had done something like this Jug Ears would have shit himself and so would his masters at the Brown Broadcasting corporation.
Next time round Mr Cameron show us you have some balls with this type of questioning.
Not true. Marr lost it, scrabbling through sheets of paper he’d printed off the net. Hardly the sign of a good interviewer.
So now we know Cameron can lie with the best of them – just saying he wasn’t sure what his house off Ladbroke Grove was worth. What is he so ashamed of?
Perhaps he is mindful of how the nasty, spiteful sneering marxists in NuLabour will use it in their class-war campaigning….
Yeah that’s right it’s NuLabour’s fault Camoron is a liar!
Nulabour scum will be mounting another of their cheap marxist class war campaigns…it’s all they have left.
I think it’s Camoron you need to be worrying about now dude!
Why should Cameron be ashamed of his riches if he believes ‘wealth creators’ are so important to society? Or is he like so many of these rich boys who just inherit their wealth?
When did it become necessary to make all your wealth in one generation?
What exactly has the price “value” of a property got to do with the price of fish?
It was a polite way of telling Marr to sod off.
Toenails spouting his usual crap on the BBC 1 news.
How much is Julie Kirkbride worth?
Depends on how many receipts she’s submitted lately.
Absolutely. She`s still at it.
Julie Kirkbride will make even more out of us all now that Dave has agreed that she can still be the candidate in Bromsgrove despite all.
Nearly as much as Andrew MacKay. Dave is way behind the pair of them.
Please don’t conflate “worth” with “net assets”.
There`s no confusion with this one. Kirkbride has it all ways!
Andrew MacKay and Ian Kirkbride have it all ways too!
Leave Julie Kirkbride alone!!!! She is honest, straightforward, of total integrity, morally upright, and above all, a true committed Tory. It is right that Dave should want to keep her in Bromsgrove, where jobs in the party office depend on her.
Cameron doesn`t know what he is letting himself in for. This unpleasant bitch qill wreck the election campaign. Cameron must be ceazy!
You don`t know the real Julie Kirkbride – this scheming woman is the opposite of what you describe
I’d pay a surprisingly large amount. Total MILF.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Some people have scruples and some people use paper bags.
You never see Andrews Marr and Golum together do you?
Nor him and Alice Miles either.
We did this morning.
Golum was the one who looked shifty and lied. Said he believed in straight talking or some other bullshit.
Com’on Randy Andy. Help us which way to vote. WHICH WAS THE BEST SHAG. THE LABOUR OR THE TORY ONE. Good on yer boyo, shows impariality.
you pissed?
Cameron has to be cagey on the EU issue even though a vast majority of Tory voters are hostile toward deeper political integration. He also has to keep his financial backers in big business happy who would have us go balls deep into Europe if they had their way because it would make them so much more money.
Now Marr has adopted the bloggers tactics of asking “outrageous” statements, it spells the beginning end of this blog
a swallow doesn’t make a summer
..but is very good for the lady’s complexion.
not if you swallow what i’ve been swallowing
( apologies to anyone about to have dinner )
So that’s why Ruth Kelly mysteriously left mainstream politics with a large protruding belly – Guido did a Marr on her…
Some facts:
Labour have totally destroyed all the history of our country.
Labour have totally destroyed the future of our country.
How can anybody defend them? Seriously. How?
I have the chance of moving to South Africa, but I don’t want to. This is / was my country, but what do I do? I cannot go on with this!
Marr is either a very very lazy journalist or someone who is trying to deliberately mislead. In 3 minutes on the internet I worked out why people have been saying cameron is worth over £30 million (the Daily Mail I think it was incorrectly picked up on the below from the Sunday Times as they are morons too):
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/rich_list_2009/article6154814.ece
David Cameron is our boy fully signed up to the principles of Common Purpose and ever closer instigation with the European Union. Check out his history he’s not even a bloody Tory he a champagne socialist straight off the same political production line as Tony Blair. Post election victory and under orders from Brussels he will perform the last act in a chain of deceit and betrayal finally twisting the knife in the body politic of little Englanders. The job will then be complete, British Sovereignty completely destroyed in less then four decades and the British proles never even knew what hit them until it was too late.
I agree. Not with dave but with you, ElPresidente 6:59pm
The BBC is nothing more than a collection of leftist Euro-toadies, leeching off the British taxpayer.
The solution is to abolish the TV tax and let the BBC earn its own money, or die.
A similar solution could apply to the EU — no more British tax contributions to their budget until we have held a referendum.
Agree about EU tax BUT NO TO EFING ADVERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
We already get adverts on the BBC – nothing but vapd fillings and nonsense between programmes for minutes on end, insulting our intelligence telling us which channel we have just been watching, what we are watching, what we are going to watch and what we could be watching on some other bloody channel or radio station.
Why can’t the BBC just show what they have scheduled and credit us with the ability to use our own TVs properly and/or look things up in a TV guide somewhere else.
710 – Because it keeps a lot of otherwise unemployable clever-idiots in employment, and because it costs a hell of a lot of money – so must be ‘a good thing’ and, in fact, is in danger of being ‘starved of resources’. Just think of all those people being paid to put on Red outfits (no subtle message there!) and do slow-motion Chinese dances on roof-tops, plus all the ‘Crew’ – and all the H & S experts, to say nothing of all the Diversity whatnots! I used to like the old ‘Special K’ ads. where the slender lovely in a red swimming-costume, leaned back – and just when you were getting a bit interested, she melted into a red ‘K’. ‘Less is more’ indeed. Not that it ever got me buying Mr. Kellog’s salt-laden rubbish: if I want something with loads of artery-stopping salt, I get it with my fish (healthy!) and chips (one of my five portions…)!
That’s me boy
Sorry,
UK’s contribuiton to the EU is going up from ~£4bn to ~£6bn next year.
But that’s not much when you divide it by 60 million people annually. The money would still be prised from your money whether or not you have earned it yet or saved any left over from the tax before and sadly due to falling vAT receipts due to lack of business transactions the extra or shortfall will need to be producedd from other tax whereby if you were allowed to spend your money where you wanted to it would be wasted on paying VAT so its swings and roundabouts what are you complaining about?
German cars
where’s the Aston Martin ?
But there aren’t 60 million taxpayers and it isn’t as if that is the only money we will pay out in taxes. £6bn would be mighty useful in No 11 right now.
I was being sarkoastic. Anyway if the working age started at about five then there would be more men, women and children paying tax and opening bank accounts.
But that’s not much when you divide it by 60 million people annually.
Not to you, perhaps…
Mrs Cameron: David,what would you like for supper?
Mr Cameron: What is the Czech au pair having?
Mrs Cameron: Never mind the Czechs,do you want cold meat and pickles?
Mr Cameron: He’s not coming round is he?
Mrs Cameron: Well,he’s blown octobers food allowance already. He said that he’s wasting away to a shadow minister.
Mr Cameron: Tell him i’m working on my manifesto.
Mrs Cameron: You’ve been on that computer for ten minutes.Surely it must be finished by now.
Mr Cameron: I’m still stuck on the Europe question. How can i convince the voters that i’m all for a referendum,without having to call one?
Mrs Cameron: Why don’t you wait until after the election,and see which way the wind blows?
Mr Cameron: Thats what i’ve been doing,but the faithful are growing restless. Unless i come up with a positive plan of action,Labour will tear me apart.
Mrs Cameron: Well why not try the line “In Europe,not governed by Europe”?
Mr Cameron: No,we tried that one long ago. We can’t use it again.
Mrs Cameron: Why not? If it was good enough for Maggie,it’s good enough for you.
Mr Cameron: Look. I can’t have them comparing me to Baroness Thatcher. I’m on a loser there. It’s got to sound decisive,but without committing myself to a binding promise.
Mrs Cameron: You’ve painted yourself in the corner there,haven’t you? Trust a man to make a pigs ear out of a simple yes/no question. Now,get off that computer,and come and lay the table.
Mr Cameron: I’ll just see if i can get any inspiration from the bloggers. That Fawkes chappie’s site often has some ideas. Georgie posts there under a nom de guerre. He swears by it. Says he got the idea from Peter Mandelson. Now,who’s this tat guy…….
WOLly likes that
Ahahahah. Woot. Encore. It was good. It wasn’t that good. It was pretty bad. It was worse than that. It was terrible.
I think it was aimed at an audience slightly higher on the evolutionary scale than your good self.
Labour supporters and their shrill media puppets are the lickspittle lackeys of the so-called self-appointed neo-aristocratic nomenklatura of bourgeois revisionist class-traitors, and will treated as such by the militant working classes. They have sold public Democracy for the lumpen permanent adoration of their corrupt masters – more titles, Lord Rolex? Look the other way, Baron Harneuter? Fresh slave, Lady Northbriton?
Such treachery cannot and will not be forgotten by the toiling masses of this nation.
Nope, lost it halfway though
He said they’re cnuts.
the so called toiling masses will forget though – that’s the problem.
Anybody read Andrew Roberts’ the Aachen Memorandem? Time to form a new UK somewhere else and let all the fucktards stew in their own shit
Now there’s a thought
Ta
Actually it’s a Patek Phillipe. Surely you don’t expect a NeoComm Lord to wear a common Rolex.
You little people will be taught how to respect your Lords and Masters in future.
It’s written into the Libon Treaty.
Do Timex still exist in Glasgow?
Doubtless in Beijing now. First city of the Empire.
There I go again last Jingo in Britain.
Not quite the last, old chap: down here, we still keep ‘Empire Day’… and – if we’re really angry – shout ‘Hang the Kaiser!’
The Beast goes for Vacheron Constantin
Patek are as plebby as Rolex, all marketing bollocks and no pedigree
and even in the Lisbon Treaty as well 1
Next
REJOICE THE RISE OF SATANISM
Rejoice in the filmography of Norman Wisdom.
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven!
WHat a crock The Lost Symbol is.
Personally I could not care less what David Camerons personal worth is ?
I dare say Gordon Brown is worth quite a bit…especially after writing all those best selling books.
I’ve been selling lucky shamrock down Cricklewood for the last week. I can’t ever return.
Agreed
We will eat you Monbiot if you do not accept Satan as your master.
I vote NuLiebor – does that help?
house prices up! house prices up!
liebore have fucked us so hard we can see stars
Oh dear. You’d better read marketoracle
the problem with socialism is the weak looking after the weak
Gordon Brown cannot organise the cleaning arrangements for his own flat, so how can he look after a country
Prescott eats industrial quantities of food
Go on Prezza stuff all that lovely food into your fat greedy face, go on my son gourge yourself its not as if your payin for it you fucker, yumyum you greedy fat labour bastard. Up the working classes Right fucking up them.
And he is rather noisy
Countryfile what the fucks that all about? stupid BBC going on about wind farms again.
I wanted one till my sodding tree blew down
Remember the BBC in the 80′s telling us that acid rain would kill all our trees, the ozone hole would melt all double glazing and lost tribes would die of the common cold if we said hello?
Bring Back tomorrows world. At least that BBC prog was mainly right , so no wonder the BBC killed it off.
Every bloody programme is about endangered species and now theyre banging on about that crying brat Ellen MacArtur’s enviroMENTAL campaign.
no it bl**dy wasn’t, in 1972 Raymond Baxter said that by the year 2000 I would be living on the Moon, flying a rocket car, with robot servants to cater to my every whim; nine years after that date I’m living in a semi in Stoke with two lazy teenagers that I have to scream blue murder at to even get out of bed in the morning, and I drive a ten year old Ford Focus!
Tomorrow’s World my @rse!
Best way to farm the wind is to grow crops. Man made windmills just polute.
David Bellamy’s not keen on the bird slicers
FFS why try to reinvent solar power?
Don’t trees, plankton, tides, plants, druids and planet earth utilise it well enough already? Or will the SUN be the next thing to have a tax slapped on it?
119
Forget what he’s got in the bank. What’s Cameron’s credibility worth? He wriggled like a fish on a hook over Lisbon and the question of a referendum.
What on earth do you want the question to be in this referendum????
Brown has signed the treaty, without the promised referendum.
The tories promise a referendum if it has not been ratified by the two remaining countries if/when the Tories have the power to.
So if the treaty is ratified when the tories have the power to hold one what is the point of it.
Brown HAS signed our freedoms away already
So stop moaning about Cameron.
Dave has lost all credibility. He can nopt give a straight answer to a straight question.
Vote for Brown then !
dick
Why should I vote for a mad socialist? I want to vote for a sane Conservative. dave is neiether sane nor Tory.
I didn’t see the interview but I share your frustration. I think the problem is if Dave answers any question straight, the Journos go into overdrive calling him a fascist or a Nazi or both.
Let’s hope he gets a grip with the BBC and Channel 4 if he does get in but there again, there’s every suspicion that he will literally be the heir to Blair, and everything will carry on down hill just like today.
How long Oh Lord must we suffer. Where is the new Mrs T.
dick here I mean
Thank you WOL.
I was a bit confused, but then it is all very confusing.
Perhaps Dave should just come clean and explain the dilemma, but that wouldn’t help, AlJabeeba and Channel 4 would have him for dinner.
How the hell do I find 119?
Politics is a waiting game, IF you’re wise. Which by the sound of it DC is, so watch this space, as the saying goes.
If your enemy is making a mistake – don’t stop him. DC is sitting back and watching those NuLiebore buffoons ensure that he will be elected on a landslide.
Yep. Next.
It’s complicated here is it not?
I don’t understand why Cameron is getting all the flack.
People shouldn’t have to rely on Cameron or the Tories when it was Labour who promised us a referendum in the first place.
Why isn’t everyone rioting on the streets?
This is the question of our Age !
Forget ‘Does God exist ?’ It’s ‘Why are the people so supine ?’
It must be the result of 12 years of Education, Education, Education by Alistair Goebbels and Co.
That must be what Bliar intended by the phrase.
Blair cheerfully accepted the nomination for President of Europe in exchange for back-tracking on his commitment to a UK referendum. This was well known in the Blogosphere a good two years ago. If any member state was going to vote ‘no’ it was Britain. Why the sudden surprise?
I notice that Brown has agreed to do the Election debate – can we get David Starkey to chair it ?
Now that would be fun
Now PM – you son of the manse and tosser of a simpleton – can you explain why the fuck you …….. you twat?
The moderator he’d agreed to (Toenails?) would have to be taken ill at the very last minute and Starkey jump in and save the day.
Delicious idea!
But has he? will he?, you would have to examine the small print at the bottom of the contract very carefully for the terms and conditions (known as the get out clause) and Ebenezer has all the copies, guarantee could be void, dodgy company, may do a moonlight.
I’ll believe it when I see it. I just can’t see McGorgon having the bottle unless he’s very pumped full of extremely strong “painkillers” – you can’t ebelive the bloke if he says that sky is blue, grass is green, and cows go moo.
I didn’t see the interview but I share your frustration. I think the problem is if Dave answers any question straight, the Journos go into overdrive calling him a fascist.
Let’s hope he gets a grip with the BBC and Channel 4 if he does get in but there again, there’s every suspicion that he will literally be the heir to Blair, and everything will carry on down hill just like today.
How long Oh Lord must we suffer. Where is the new Mrs T.
I want a government with the fiscal expertise of Conservatives,the social awareness of Labour,the EU policy of UKIP,the immigration controls of the beanpoles,the environmental concerns of the greens,the personal freedoms of the Libertarians and a couple of Lib Dems to take the piss out of.
The Liberals would never agree to that.
Why not? They must be used to it by now.
Wanker.
Tosser.
One hand for the keyboard,and one for yourself?
“social awareness of Labour”!!!!!!!!!!
Nope, lost you there.
O/T ….Over on BBC2 with that leftie luvvie Stephen Fry.Young NZ naturalist explaining why the Kiwi and other flightless birds became increasingly rare.He was explaining it was the arrival of man.Now he started off by explaining that of course with the arrival of the Maoris these birds became rare.Then in jumps Stephen Labour Luvvie Fry chomping at the bit to say it started because of those awful people like Captain Cook (white people) which did for the flightless birds.I mean we couldn’t blame the Maoris for anything that happened to animals in NZ.It’s all whiteys fault. Then this young NZ naturalist said that the Maoris ate these birds which shut the old windbag up.
left to stephen fried bed no-one would have the baby, maybe just a large dicktionary in the spare room
or maybe a large dick in the spare room.
I share your revulsion at this pious hypocritical privately educated creep, and another thing I don’t like him on telly much either.
It was the introduction of shoes which finally polished them off though.
like it ! But surely they didn’t melt them down to make polish, it would have been all messy with their flightless feathers.
Or do you mean the flightless birds were made to wear shoes. some kind shoe correctness regime for walking birds.
Don’t be silly, the feathers went for headdresses and duvets and the rest was used for the polish, the Black Kiwi, the Brown Kiwi and the much rarer White (albino) Kiwi.
So it was partly the fault of the Maoris for insisisting on wearing feather duvets as headdresses.
All wrong you lot. Jeeves KNEW his place.
Maybe as Q as a ferret x badger but he never takes himself seriously.
It’s hilarious the way the BBC try to portray Fry as the ‘quintessential Englishman’. If you look the phony bastard up on the internet you’ll find he’s nothing of the sort. Rather a Jew and former ex-con fraudster who’s found a niche pretending to be something he isn’t. A space should be made alongside Blair, Brown and Mandy for him on the scaffold.
The Maoris ate them all. When this easy food source began to dry up that is when they became warlike to compete for the dwindling resources.
I blame Captain Cook. He should have brought them more food and set up the NHS as well.
Thus sayeth ‘British History Lesson (I am so ashamed ) for Year 7′ and above
Do you mean they ate Stephen Fry et al?! Cor that would be a turn up for the books! First bright thing on the agenda for the week to come.
It’s incredible but true. Huge numbers of species in New Zealand within two centuries of the ‘Maori’ arrival on the islands in the 9th Century. A good example is the Giant Moa. Eaten into extinction. This notion that all was well with the natural world and that non-white people’s nobly co-existed with nature is completely and utterly at variance with all the evidence. Be it the Americas, Africa, Australia, in fact anywhere, a disappearance of fauna, both avian and animal, coincides with the arrival of humans. When Europeans chanced upon these cultures, they witnessed an already degraded ecology.
Back to the theme, now
Rambling bullshit or what?
It was whitey buying slaves on the West coast in Africa, but it wasn’t whitey selling them. Hmmm….surely not the brothas selling off their own??? Tsk…naughty wrongthought *slaps wrist*
i think we need to make sure everybody has plumb, chuckey egg, bread loaf, salt, water, fresh air, lettuce, tomato, beef steak = house room +++the end++
Is that an online suicide note?
i just have co-op pork pie, and a apple blackurant pie and think everybody should have the same opportunity
Dave, don’t be a cunt. Guarantee us a vote on the Lisbon Treaty whatever happens. Failing that we’ll know exactly what sort of a prospective ‘leader’ you are.
I think I already do know but I stand to be corrected along with my fellow and lady patriots
30 million? Well done Dave. I’m still trying to up my wealth; not a thief ,not a ponzi swindler, just a father with kids trying to keep body and soul together, with something to leave to my family when I die.
Is that so strange?
Are you envious?
No, not envious, I’m lucky to have been born in England rather than Somalia say, and Dave is lucky to have been be born to a wealthy family. IMHO the politics of envy are so destructive; real success should be rewarded not penalised. But I agree with Nell, it’s these troughing chumps enriching themselve at our expense, that makes me angry…
Don’t envy dave.
Envy tone, mandy, gordon, aintbustinagut, kevan, geoffhoon, alastairdarling, the balls, (not to mention uddin, scotland, and a score of other troughing labour lords , ladies and ministers) and on and on …..who are all property millionaires/multi-millionaires thanks to us.
And quite right too.
The little people must pay for all the Lords and Mayors of Toytown.
This is what i needed to hear.
Tory Euro MP Daniel Hannan has said David Cameron is “working privately to get a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8289535.stm
So no more comment from me on this subject. I trust Hannan
You poor deluded twat!
Camoron is in the pocket of big business.
There will be no referendum!
This is sh(IT)
That’s why he wouldn’t answer the question!
Simplz!!!
“Tory Euro MP Daniel Hannan has said David Cameron is “working privately to get a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty”.”
Bollocks!
He doesn’t need to work “privately”
Just say he will have a referendum whatever the circumstances.
Hannan is being conned!
How on earth can he unequivocably state that he will have a referendum when(a)the nags are still running (b)the scots mafia are in charge and (c) He hasn’t been elected yet.
I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but even I understand politically that pre-empting what europe would take as a very negative action is pointless if someone else does the job for you beforehand.
Looks like Twatatory has broken into my office again and logged on. I wouldn’t mind so much but he only ever visits a guy called Fawkes and a site called Fighting Cocks. What a bastard.
Extra meds for him tomorrow.
fuck off back to west ham online
twatatory
Mr Cameron has said he will set a date for the referendum during campaigning for the British general election next year.
Meanwhile, Czech President Vaclav Klaus has said his country’s ratification of the Lisbon Treaty is ‘not on the cards’.
Mr Klaus and Polish President Lech Kaczynski still have to sign the Treaty, which must be approved by all 27 EU countries to take effect.
Mr Kaczynski has said he would sign if the Irish vote yes, but Mr Klaus said the Czech constitutional court had asked him to hold off ratification until it passes a verdict on a complaint against the text made by Czech senators.
‘As you have noticed, I am banned from signing (the Treaty) until the constitutional court comes up with something,’ Mr Klaus said
From a BBC source??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s say I will hang on until the day of the General Election then all bets are off, it will be another party that will get my vote,so that will still make me a floating voter.
Why don’t you make it the Monster Raving Loony Party, you’d be well suited?
825. Because they may have little shits like you in it, and one little shit thinking he’s making a sarcastic joke enough.
Oh deary deary me. Is that the best you can do? I’d stick to watching Countdown in your care home if I were you.
Great stuff from Archbishop Cramner.
Tony Blair is the new Napoleon.
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/
Once we had the guts as a country to fight for 13 years to defeat Napoleon, I hope we have the courage to taken Emperor Blair.
Rearrange the following well know phrase.
“Off fuck!”
You are Twatory. I claim a prize.
O dear Guido, you have attracted a lot of leftie trolls today.
It’s a shame they have nothing to offer but abuse. Once the British left had ideas and vision, but sadly the only idea they have left not is to shamelessl cling onto power and patronage.
Oh we’ll have a new European President shall we?
Please tell me when the election is being held so I can exercise my democratic right to vote from a long list of candidates.
Thank you.
Now you’re asking too much. You don’t get nuffin even before Lisbon comes into FORCE
Good things that will come from the end of the union and the break up of England.
1. The reduction in the pensions bill. With the end of the British state there will be no one and no need to pay British civil service pensions. The new Euro-regions will have no reason to pay. England will not exsist so there will be no legal way to force us to pay pensions to Jocks, Taffies or Irish.
2. The Foreign and Commonwealth office can be got rid of as we no longer have a say. Major savings there. (Pensions) Travel costs ect.
3. Just closing down the naval bases in Scotland will save shit loads of cash that can be spent on the Centre of Euro naval training at Plymouth. The office of FOST has been doing a great job for years prep’ing for this any way.
4. All those soliders and marines will have to find someone to look after them and pay for their after care. Lots saved there.
5. But best of all. No British state, so no British state funded Bullshiters on our pay roll. Poor old BBC, how sad, never mind.
6. With a private health care system the stupid and the unlucky will soon die off, saving more. What with making the killing of the old and inferm legal again, we will find that we’ll be back in the blue in no time.
and President Blair can tell us all what to do
You were all ways ahead of the game Alois, if only we had worked together more. What we could have done………
Hitler’s Grandad?
Never heard of the man. Have you Losif ?
It’s comforting to know that whilst our returning soldiers with understandable mental health issues are returned to live in poverty and squalor, Nu Labour has just committed to fund free universal health care in Liberia for a further 3 years (Sky News).
And in Scottishland I am told.
It ought not to be allowed.
Campbell smears the Tories’ Euros allies on his blog thus: “Their European policy consists of sticking two fingers up to serious leaders so that they can jump into bed with a marginalised, marginalising alliance of racists, homophobes and misfits”
The Belgian ListDedecker, the Czech Civic Democratic Forum, the Hungarian Democratic Forum, the Latvian LNNK, the Dutch Christian Union and the Polish Law and Justice party are proud organisations. I hope one of them will take Campbell and his Labour minions to court for their smears.
By the way Alaistair it’s the Labour party who sit in the European parliament with the Hungarian Socialist party and the Bulgarian socialist oarties, who in a previous incarnations were the one-party states that governed those nations as Soviet puppets. The LAbour party are in no position to lecture anyone about their Euro allies.
It’s OK if they’re socialist gangsters surely.
It is illegal to take Campbell to court. He’s a friend of the putative President of Europe for God’s sake.
You little people must learn, it’s not for you to discuss these matters of Serious Leaders.
But it is rather delicious that the deceitful eurostate is about to get Bliar as its President . This is going to make for entertainment if nothing else, and they can’t say they weren’t told.
And if Olde Englande is dismembered, fear not we can all go and live in France.
Much as I dislike the EU and Lisbon even I must admit that any legal action would be laughed out of court. The fact is that Dopey Dave has got into bed with a bunch of nutters.
Oh dear, another simpleton falling for Liebore spin.
Now you listen to me young man. We are in charge of our country-not any politician who doesn’t represent us. Got it?
Mr Cameron has said he will set a date for the referendum during campaigning for the British general election next year.
Meanwhile, Czech President Vaclav Klaus has said his country’s ratification of the Lisbon Treaty is ‘not on the cards’.
Mr Klaus and Polish President Lech Kaczynski still have to sign the Treaty, which must be approved by all 27 EU countries to take effect.
Mr Kaczynski has said he would sign if the Irish vote yes, but Mr Klaus said the Czech constitutional court had asked him to hold off ratification until it passes a verdict on a complaint against the text made by Czech senators.
‘As you have noticed, I am banned from signing (the Treaty) until the constitutional court comes up with something,’ Mr Klaus said
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1003/eulisbonfuture.html
Hello chums “far be it from me to remind the foreign secretary ” It rather looked as mr milliband hadnt done his homework , as it was under a Labour governement (post ww2) that the Lativans were designated as not nazis .
I kept wondering if mr milliband was going to ask jon sopel for game of conkers as he was certainly in shorts and school boy cap at the end of that exchange .
yvette was on sky this afternoon and it was pathetic , “tory cuts” yet totally unapologetic for labour worst debts ever . To make maters worse it seems ruin has made our international club relations somewhat doubtfull , the new G4 will not inlcude us and IMF may kick us out , the awards just mount up dont they is there one for “the most ruined economy during the global downturn ?”
Surely that’s Nigel Lawson.
Looks like Harry Enfield to me, when he was funny.
Could be Leon Bwitton.
Enfield is another leftie luvvie сunt who should have the decency to fuck off to another country when Cammo gets in.
North Korea would be good.
I’m sure that would be too good for him, but I can’t think of anywhere else.
Unless somewhere where he could be subjected to Terry Wogan for ever until his brains fell out. I expect they broadcast Wogan in the North Korean saltmines.
Why is it you have the ability to say Huhne (c.u.n.t.) yet no-one else can?
Such abilities are usually only the preserve of Moderators on a site
Is that you Mr Fawkes?
Like many I am disappointed that Ireland saw fit to go back on their ‘NO’ pledge over Europe but then again what do you expect when we used to get nil pois from them in Eurovision when on avaerage we gave them 5 points! Ho hum but my points here are how come 6 million Irish voters seems to have more validity then potentionally 60 million British votes who I believe, and having read a number of my blogs nationally, would be a resounding NO!!
Where is Farage when we need him?
More to the point my first thought when I got the news was to be reminded of Italy’s change of allegencies during the second world war, but then again it is never clear who they are loyal to;
Then again why did so many allies lose their lives 64 years ago if today we are handing our sovereignty to an unelected Brussels on a plate?
Dave Cameron may not have been keen to talk about Europe with Andrew Marr but Britain will speak to him via Guidos Blog!!
Don’t forget the power of grafitti if done legal like.
Labour are smearing with all their might again. I suspect that one Mr McBride has secretly re-enter the bunker.
McBride has never left – Ishat remains as balls left hand ‘man’ and keeps mcbride in the loop.
This labour cess pit are desperately trying to keep the gravy train running.
Whln, AlstrC, TWATson – they are all still there around gordon – trying to keep him believing he is the Saviour of the World. Talk about the Emperor with no clothes!!!
It’s a pity of course that SirGus ( who should have been a neutral civil servant) has allowed himself to so publicly become a labour supporter. His is the ultimate betrayal of the high principles of the civil service.
The Civil Service is going to have a very hard climb back to belief by the public that they can be neutral.
His finchley labour party membership was never cancelled
clever how these Nulabour scum change the argument. They have everyone now arguing over who is to be EU president rather than arguing even if there should be a president. Watch for more of this as Trolls are pushing the same line and also saying that Cameron did not answer the question when he plainly did.
Takes the heat of Brown though and his stealth signing after creeping in the back door.
Vast majority of Tory members oppose position on Lisbon Treaty, poll reveals
The poll of 2,205 Tory members by the ConservativeHome.com website found that more than eight in 10 want him to call a referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon even if it has been approved by the next general election – a pledge he is refusing to make.
Conservativehome.com being famously full of NuLabour scum
It’s the little party line pricks who are trying to sell Britain out to Europe again with Ken Clarke laughing in the background
You don’t need NuLabour chum, not when you’ve got your neo nazi faction!
Dave just seems a little bit slippery. No doubt he will do a tiny tiny little bit better than Gordon, but I just don’t like him.
Who said the Tories were a Thatcher tribute band? Bah! We wish.
gordon and aintbustinagut seem more than a little bit slippery.
This government is the only government that has not formed a WAR CABINET to look, daily, at War Strategy and Troops Needs and Supplies in the last 100 years.
Every government, including Mrs Thatcher’s , had a War cabinet, that met every day we were at War to look at the needs of our troops.
Why hasn’t this government got a War Cabinet?
Could it be that gordon doesn’t give a toss about our Troops??!!
No war cabinet but the smear cabinet meets daily to counter any descenting voices, so gordon does care about our troops, he takes care that the truth is not out there.
I wouldn’t embarrass yourself speaking of war strategy nell since you seem to think a few more helicopters or troops or a war cabinet can turn around an intractable quagmire.
It’s done. Finished. Over.
No more dead troops for the vanity of Brown or Cameron.
Those who give a toss about the troops want them out of the meat-grinder NOW.
Nobody is claiming a few helicopters will do the trick, but what we don’t like is the constant spin and evasion that surrounds the subject. Brown says they have everything they need (although”they” don’t seem to think so), and then says he ‘s sending more helicopters – so have they got everything thye need Mr Brown?
Look, – just trust me, – won’t you.
That weird witchy woman does.
Mandelson ?
No Georgina – the cross dressing ladyboy.
That woman that cherie showers with – I forget her name????
Carol Caplin. Nice tits.
Thats what she said about Tony and Gordon.
Tony.
Oh dear. Lots of Tory trolls here tonight. They must have been sent out on a damage limitation mission after Daves fuckup this morning.
they think Guido’s site is Cameron’s personal property
they should fuck off to Conservative Home if they want uncritical gushing praise
Euromouse,why dont you try a cyanide pill as a special treat,it worked wonders in the past I believe.
You and your ilk are scum,it has nothing to do with Cameron we are talking here ie: those of us who are rational about the survival of this country against EUSSR a completely unelected bunch of commies who are only interested in dictat eg: Ireland,you need to get your apparently undeveloped brain into gear and realise that nation states are being swallowed up into this unaccountable cesspit of corruption and self centred money grubbing traitors.
You sound like a nonce.
piss off you pathetic little wanker
I’d expect that kind of submental fuckwittery from a little McBride wannabe
Well I turned out to be dead right about that one didn’t I chaps?
A feisty little bitch though. It’ll be fun breaking her in.
You turned out to be a fuckwit who thinks it’s hard to call someone a nonce
You’re a nonce Richard Bacon
that was fun
I’m disappointed, you’re not making much sense now. Not that you ever did in the first place. Cest la vie.
I’m not surprised in the slightest twats like you have trouble comprehending anything, no matter how simple. Plus ça change.
“…….no matter how simple.”
And they don’t come simpler than you poppet. Why don’t you work off some of your aggression by doing some of your husbands ironing, there’s a good chap?
Euromouse,you are scum,sloth springs to mind in bygone society you would be tried for treason with the obvious result.
Crawl back under your stone or better still try a lobotomy although they wouldn,t find much to cut away.
Patriotic and euromouse. Get a room. You know you want to.
Labour trolls only come out of the woodwork when they think their taxpayer troughing is being challenged and their gravy train is coming to an end.
Never mind looking after the country labour believes first and foremost in the adage “I’m alright Jack”
you’re getting confused with CMD.
Most people take out a mortgage because it’s the only way they can afford a mortgage.
CMD is loaded and has no need of a mortgage, it’s just a convenient way of extracting more money from the tax payer.
He’s alright Jack.
Sorry YOU are confused. You are talking about Mandy!!!!!!!!
Tone of course has also been rather good at extracting millions from the taxpayer.
And no doubt aintbustinagut, kevan and gordon etc…… have followed his example on how to get ‘as many millions as possible out of the state before labour collapses’
My mistake then, Dave has paid off his mortgage and stopped claiming then has he?
Well CMD. Question is are people like tone , who have left our political spectrum no longer a charge on the taxpayer??
Oh No!! Wait a moment . Cherie Blair has just demanded, and has been granted £500K per annum for security and bodyguards even though the political view is that it is no longer required.
She needs to be protected from rampaging Fen Tigresses with a lust for blood.
it’s not the security that they want – it’s the prestige of the entourage, the convenience of not queuing for anything, and the luxury of having a car and chauffeur paid for by us.
All right nell. You’ve done enough damage to the tories for today. Time for bed.
dolly darling – you can hope – but you can’t escape the truth.
gordon is a loser. Incompetent chancellor. Failed world statesman. Derided PM.
He has made Britain a laughing stock ( Omaha and the G4 that excludes us )
The Libyan Debacle that he hid under the table from.
The TV Debates that he is so desperately trying to avoid even now.
The Labour Conference that he sent his wife out front first to say that she thought’ he was her hero’
What a Wimp!!
Fuck off Dolly
You need anger management councelling. Fortunately,i might be in a position to help you.
Meant the Trolls Nell.
I always think the scoring for dramatic chipmunk is slightly too slow
the ‘sting’ should come quicker so the headturn is in sync with the sweeping note. (this may perhaps be more analysis than dramatic chipmunk deserves)
Indeed.
By “Dave’s F*** up” I presume you refer to the terrible judgement shown by Milliband on the Politics Show.
I’m glad there are so many leftie trolls on here tonight, they might learn something. How good of you to take time off from taking away our civil liberities, surrendering our sovereignty to Brussels and sandling our children with massive debts to join us.
OI! Some of us are middle of the road trolls.
It helps reduce the European Sandal Mountain
Talk ye not of the EU – rather focus on today’s problems – the massive debt created by Gordon Brown’s regime and the ways we can address it and the associated problems
DROP IT !!! MOVE ON !!!
NOW !!!
we will soon hand over any power we might have had to address it to President Blair.
And yes, stand up and salute when you hear that name.
And what a fuckup it was!
Indecisive twat!
Sitting on the fence? Must be talking about the LimpDumbs.
I wonder why ( well actually I don’t) we didn’t have any labour trolls last week during the labour conference?
And now this week during the tory conference we are inundated with these idiots!!!!
Last week,we were tory trolls,but being a flexible workforce,we go where the money is.
it’s where the agency deploys them
nell has the memory of a goldfish if she didn’t spot mongo shorts last week
Actually like human being’s, fish have been proved to have an intelligence that people like gordon didn’t understand.
gordon thinks the british people are idiots and he can fool ‘all of the people all of the time’
He is being encouraged in that view by people like ishat damian/balls2/whln/ mandy /& twatson
Poor deluded souls. You need to read true accounts of the French Revolution. This socialist gravy train is coming to the end of its road.!!!
I’m just sorry that the end of that road for them does not lead to the guillotine.
and what part of that small rant refuted the fact that speedo and many others always infect this site ? I was gently reminding you that your point was fallacious
indeed what part of my pointing out that obvious fact merits any comparisons to labour trolls or socialists? is that the summit of your ability nell? to yell labour troll or socialist like a demented parrot?
labour are useless bastards but lisbon is a massive issue for conservatives so pretending otherwise or simply not knowing any better does you no favours nell
Lisbon?
No democracy – no peace.
It is that simple.
It is that simple. I don’t like to be told what to do under threat of fines. I do observe what is known as the Ten Commandments and you should see thy neighbor’s wife!
superbly put
and it’s not going to go away soon either -
the Czech president today sent a message that in a sense was telling the Tories not to depend on a Czech delay. He said that after today’s referendum “there will never be another referendum in Europe”. He was then asked whether he had a message for Britain. “I am afraid, that the people of Britain should have been doing something really much earlier and not just now, too late, saying something and waiting for my decision”.
Its not too late people
It is for you. School in the morning
Not before I’ve given him some of my Pawkesword.
The Czech’s wont help a bunch of Limey Losers from failing under the control of a German domimated foreign empire. Not after the way they were betrayed in 1938. Revenge served cold after 70 years. Absolutely delicious.
Nick Robinson has just insulted the Czechs by implying they are still run by the Russians. He suggested the Czech for no was nyet (as in the Russian no), but it is in fact ne. I know you work for Pravda but next time check your facts, Nick.
RIP the nation of Ireland: 1922 – 2009
RIP the Labour Party 29/09/2009.
Throwing of the yoke of British imperialism for French imperialism. I am waiting for Protestantism to be outlawed within the next decade. Sorry I spent too much writing about the counter reformation last semester……….
Andrew Marr – WHAT A WANKER !
He totally lost it this morning. He’s too stupid to realise that its Brown’s fault we aint having a referendum. His line of questioning was a mindless attempt too look hard.
As for questioning how much Cameron was worth ! What a fucking tool ! Who cares how much Cameron is worth.
Im voting for some one who will make Britain Great again…. I made a mistake voting that cock-jockey Blair in, but at least I can admit it & move on.
BTW – can some-one kneecap that annoying prick Milliband. He is a fucking muppet. Will he loose his seat ?
I hope he is worth £30 million, good for him and his family.
But even if it’s only £10 million he can fuck off robbing my tax to pay his (optional) mortgage interest.
But you are quite happy, are you ? for tone to leech your taxes of £500K per annum for his and hers bodyguards ?
And for mand and the rest of the labour crew to keep leeching millions for their property portfolios and first class, private jet air travel, and five star hotel accommodation and meals only in the absultely most expensive , high class restaurants??? ……………………
No I’m not happy, but how can the answer be to replace one bunch of lying troughers with another bunch of lying troughers.
Stop troughing, stop lying and you get my vote.
actually there probably should be a budget for body guards, I’m sure CMD will be grateful when we’re ready to string him up in 5 years time for misleading us and selling us out to Europe.
Sorry to tell you this, since your one brain cell has missed it, but labour has aready sold us out to europe.
And laboor’s major players , bliar, mandy and brown are already moving into those new cushy posts that will feather their nests for life – president, foreign minister and chancellor.
I think you’ll find it was the fat sailor.
damn right. why won’t callmedave point out more that this is all the gorgon’s fault. every time a journo asks about the referendum, suggesting that callmedave is some kind of wacko for wanting to keep an election promise, he needs to turn the fire on mccretin: “brown lied, he promised a referendum and then broke his promise, he created the mess, get an answer from him before badgering me”
‘ Considering I’m heading a group of people who will save the future of every man,woman and child in this Country,I’d say I’m worth a lot more!’
I’m a pretty straight sort of a guy
And of course Blair is a regular kinda guy………regularly corrupt.
I’d say tone and his entrails, including gordon, are worth less, and achieve less, than the most desperate feral child on the streets of mumbai.
Strange how all the Tory trolls thought the sun shone out of Marr’s anal cavity last week, now he is the son of Satan!
Don’t blame him for showing what a novice Camoron really is.
Still if you don’t actually know what your real policy is from one day to the other, and your party is totally split on Europe, then small wonder Camoron bottled it.
I think Cameron’s trouble is he’s seen the lying Labour chumps get away wtih it for over 12 years and so thinks that being a lying weasel is the way to do it, but we’ve had enough.
Yeah I get it, it’s Labour’s fault Camoron is a lying gimp.
If he thinks Marr was tough then he ain’t seen nothing yet.
He should have been able to handle him if he had any political nous.
Camoron is not used to defending nor explaining Tory policy.
This is a step up for Camoron and he doesn’t look up to it.
He’s got all his Europhobes snapping at his heels. They’re his true opposition.
Gordon loses it.
The Sun ain’t gonna shine on Brown or his incompetent government anymore, that’s for sure.
Treasonus hoons like you think you can steal the country without a vote with no consequences?
You are a democracy shy, ballot box averse bunch of hoons & you have lost sight of the bigger picture – democracy – one person, one vote.
Recycled multi millionaire Communists like Barroso will NEVER get control of a substantial hard core of the British people, & as the travesty of EU occupation of the UK grows & becomes more obvious & oppressive more will go into the shadows to fight back – & we will have to fight to free ourselves now.
Imposing a foreign Government onto the British people by deceit is sheer folly, & will bring the continent of Europe to the brink once again.
Now children lets remind ourselves of those other European political movements that thought it was in mankinds best interests to unify Europe by any means necessary:
* Communism
* Fascism
* Nationalsim Socialism
* Socialism
The European Union will prove to be a bigger threat to peace than all of the above put together.
I for one will fight to free my country, & I will not be alone. Afterall, the political elite have conspired to deny me a vote on the future of my country, you have denied me democracy.
What alternative do we have other then to fight to free ourselves from European tyranny?
None mate
I’ve got my pitchfork at the ready.
Count me in, Fred. Independence is precious, and was hard won. It’s worth protecting.
The only troll on here is you.
Gordon’s performance, of showing the world his evil disconcerting eye , with adam boulton , is his own fault.
The fact that he then made his ‘wife’ go on stage before him to say ‘ he’s my hero, I know he’s incompetent and uncaring but please be kind to him ‘ – shows him up for the wimp that he is.
Not someone you’d want to vote for!!!!!
Get him!
It’s a marginally better than bottling a whole fucking election that was there for the winning IMHO.
The trouble is, of course, gordon bottles every major decision.
He hides under that no.10 Drowning Street cabinet table every chance he gets.
Mrs T would have laughed at his cowardice.
This is not a ‘man’ we want in charge of our country is it?
Oh I still look at the video of Thatcher being kicked out of No. 10 by her own backstabbing party.
Fecking ace!
Alrighhhhhttt, alrighttttttttt.
Wait ’till you see Broon kicked out. Not long, now…
You won’t get a video of Brown being booted out. He’ll skulk out the back door.
Broon knows a thing or two about the back-door route….
You sad little fuck.
The No. 10 cellars must be packed to the gunnels with bottled decisions by now. Gordoom’s bottled decisions, however, will not cellar well; indeed, they are probably rather vinegary when bottled, and deteriorate rapidly with keeping.
Dave would do well to ditch the lot on moving in, and not even recycle the bottles. Far too contaminated.
Where have you been today. Conference?
Nope. Giving my time in a voluntary (but non-political) activity.
Is that what you call it?
Tight nuts all round!
Try it sometime. Give your time and skills to something that enhances the life of the nation, such as caring for some aspect of it’s heritage, or doing a bit for the less fortunate in society. It’s life-enhancing, and you’ll meet some really decent people.
“Tight nuts all round!”
So what?
Last post tonight,couldn,t give a shit about all comments today lots of them good lots of them bad mainly liebour arseholes butting in.
Qeustion,do we really know what Cameron is thinking should the chechs sign up,no we do not,the chechs will sign up and then what will Cameron do if he rolls over on this one I would suggest that he will not be sure of winning the next election,I for one will never vote for a party who sells this country down the river for a mess of pottage.
fuck , has anyone read all these comments? if cameron had 30,000 for every comment on here…..
Referendum or Riot.
Thats the choice dave.
Take one.
Another Young Conservative Ball
No, that was the promise of Blair/Brown (Referendum), its still all quiet on the Western front.
Marr “How Much Are You Worth ” Thats Fucking Rich Comming From A Turd That Works For The BBC Who Wont Disclose How Much Their Over Rated Over payedFront Men Are On !
SCRAP THE BBC NOW!
He has.
Fuck it. Deposited in the wrong account.
We am considerowbly richer than yow.
I predict a riot!
That should be the Conference theme song (Kaiser Chiefs)
There certainly will be if Brown cancels the election.
gordon tonight –
“I’ll make you a promise to give you anything you want if you will only say that I am the Hero of the World and give me your vote next time around.
Of course you must accept that I may not be able to keep my promises. I am after all a Labour politician.”
Good Night. God Bless.
Please God look after our Troops in Afghanistan because this government sure isn’t doing that.
All those workshy bastards on incapacity benefit are going to be forced on to the workshy bastards on job seekers benefit. Sorted.
At the very least they’ll be getting less of our fucking tax money.
Will make the unemployment figures look bad though. Imagine how the MSM will spin that. Still,it’s a price worth paying.
They’ll be out on the streets in no time – Trafalgar Square will end up with a dozen empty plinths.
At a cost of at least £600 MILLION ?
yeah, that’ll happen with debt at unbelievable levels
God you’d think the BBC would have given up on the Europe thing, it’s on every news story, fat Huhne Stephen Nolan was shouting with glee “this could damage the Tories” spouts the fat fucking slob.
The irony of the BBC hammering Cameron about what he is worth, whilst the BBC not only uses our money to block us finding out how much beeboids earn, we also see the BBC looking to allow rich beeboids avoid paying tax.
Could you imagine the BBC outrage if a Tory were caught doing that?
I think the BBC need to be a bit careful. If they hammer the Tories too hard – and they seem to be getting very close to that – the ordinary listener will notice the bias. Secondly, if the Tories are returned with a sizable majority at the GE – and that could happen – the Beeb might reap the whirlwind.
They have to be seen to be impartial by the public, otherwise they will loose credibility. They are starting to do just that – speaking from the point of view of a fairly average listener.
Once you start to look for objectivity and impartiality, you start to see just how much it is lacking.
The bias at the BBC is fairly obvious. It’s not always pro Liebour but the BBC is pro left. The BBC is an arrogant organisation that sees its self as above the law.
The Tories must cut the BBC down to size and part of that must be the abolition of the TV tax, the tax was NEVER intended to fund multi million pound wages or the Cocaine lifestyles of some beeboids.
Scrap the TV tax and let the BBC go over to subscription, this would give the BBC the financial freedom it needs and those that like to ring into Radio 5 and say to Nicky Campbell that they’d happily pay two or three times the existing fee for the BBC can do so.
The Government should also ensure that the BBC employs more of a balance of Conservative and Liebour journalists, the only Tory I can think of at the BBC is Andrew Neil.
BBC – the enemies broadcaster of choice.
I lost it with t6hose hoons when they published Osama Bin Ladens poetry without a whisper of complaint from the left – yet a democratically elected British politician who will remain nameless is vilified & denied access to the public.
BBC – support Islamist terror – Its What We Do.
On the eve of the Conservative conference in Manchester Cameron refused to be drawn o Europe during the Andrew Marr show just the day after Ireland voted yes
So I think it is up to us to keep the focus on this key issue as it will have a major impact on the UK if Lisbon is ratified!! ( This is what he said in May)
Well at least he’s being consistant!
So consistantly vague that his own colleagues don’t know what the Tories are going to do.
You daft сunt.
1000?
This has no monetary value (for you).
Oooh – am I the 1,000 the to comment?
Bugger!
1001. I also clean carpets
For Less Than Half A Crown As I Recall !
Geez – and I declined the offer of a blow job for Mrs Sinatra just a minute ago………
Oh well………needs must etc – congratulations ‘Scenic’ (the night is yet young)
Merci, Give Mrs S one for me!
See, I told you I had Camoron by the short and curlies!
And, OhBoy!!! have I got him by the short and curlies now!
You’re not really Ken Clarke are you?
Thought not.
Watched the Marr/Cameron interview again. Marr’s behaviour is frankly astonishing and completely out of character. He’s for some strange reason wierdly hyped-up, unreasonably aggressive, unnecessarily impolite etc.
Boulton was able to spook Brown whilst remaining completely relaxed and Paxman blew Ed Miliband away without breaking into a sweat. Marr must be feeling like the third rate interviewer that he is.
I think the BBC should show us some concrete evidence to support their stance that the entire nation is obsessed with knowing what David Cameron will do in the event of some hypothetical situation in the dim and distant future.
Best comment yet.
Doesn’t matter how many times you watch it, Camoron still fucked up big time!
So where is it written that interviewers have to be polite?
Bring on Paxo, time for a real mauling!
Marr asked Gordon only once whether he was on medication to correct his manic behaviour. He repled No and changed the subject.
Marr should have spent the whole interview asking him the same question over and over again until he broke down and confessed that it was true and that he was indeed a nutter who had no business sitting in Downing Street pretending to be normal.
At least in Gordon’s case its something that’s already happened and not some imaginary future scenario dreamt up by the BBC.
Marr show at 55:45 to 55:52
With ref to banking regulation: Marr “But you did get it wrong I think”
Hmmm – slightly beyond the brief of a BBC interviewer to express personal opinions – particularly when they closely align with the Governments?
What happened to rules regarding bias?
Apologies to any of the above 1000+ posters who have already made this point.
I could also metion putting up the Bullingdon phota as backdrop and referring to Cameron as a Toff and asking him about his personal wealth – but I need my keyboard today
Marr got up my nose when he banged on about Dave being a toff. Then again it should not have surprised me – sums up BBC tribal mentality perfectly. Tosser is what he is.
Dave is probably biding his time until he has the opportunity to smash the BBC.
I had an excellent education at a SECONDARY MODERN SCHOOL in the 50′s, the opportunity to go to grammar school at 13, but went to a good technical college at 15.
What do I care if Cameron was educated at Eton? Good luck to him and certainly good luck to all children who can escape the average state school secondary education.
What if Cameron is richer than average? We seem to have the policy of envy foisted us on by the BBC and Labour. What really gets to me is the hypocr1sy of past and present members of the Labour Party, who got rich at taxpayers expense.
Also isn’t what we did our teenage years/early twenties irrelevant to our more responsible adult life – we all make mistakes when young and, at times. foolish. “Let he who is who is without sin cast the first stone”.
Did you notice how Marr doggedly pursued Dave for answers he wanted, whilst last week letting Gordon not answer any questions at all.
Marr is a died in the wool, socialist disgrace and a does the “unbiassed” Beeb and massive diservice.
I can’t wait to hear Marr ask Mandelson how much he’s worth and where he got it from.
…and how many boyfriends has he had!
That (seriously long pause) is a question (another seriously long pause) that I as Business Secretary (yet another seriously long pause) do not consider (serial seriously long pauser) has any relevance…..
And I would expect it to be asked against a background of a moustachioed Mandelson dancing in Madame JoJo’s.
Why don’t all you simple minded Tory trolls fuck off back to Conservative Home.
It is simple to vote for the Tories.
12 years of Labour have increased government spending and debt to record levels.
Unemployment has increased under every Labour government.
this government takes a greater share of tax payers money than any other government in history.
There are more labour cabinet minister millionaires than any previous labour cabinet (and most were not rich before accepting office)
and trolls like Toynbee, Robinson, Marr, McGuire, White still think Gordon has run the economy well and has all the answers.
The Tories may not be perfect, but anyone has to be better than the Brown/Balls/Mnadelson triumvirate.
Most people on this blog would vote for the “NON OF THE ABOVE PARTY”.