October 4th, 2009

Government of Lawyers : Equality Before the Law?

Sunday Sleaze
harriet_carAnother Labour minister and QC thinks the laws are for other people. Harman was on the mobile when she crashed into a parked car without stopping to leave her details. Under the 1988 Road Traffic Act, any driver involved in a collision with another vehicle is required by law to stop and give their name and address, as well as details of the vehicle’s owner and the vehicle’s registration.  Not exactly Chappaquidick Bridge, but that she drove off telling a witness ‘I’m Harriet Harman – you know where you can get me…’ is a little high-handed…

target-baronessThe other Labour minister and QC in legal difficulties is the Attorney General, Baroness Scotland. She is now accused of flouting the tax laws; she had no written contract of employment with Lolo, her illegally employed Tongan cleaner, there is firm evidence that no tax was paid for at least 10 weeks and Lolo wasn’t given any wage slips as required by employment protection laws.

Clear breaches of employment law which imply that for a period of time she was effectively paying Lolo cash in hand…


252 Comments

  1. 1
    Great Granddad says:

    I’m Great Granddad. Find me if you can.

    • 49
      Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

      “I’m Harriet Harman, you know where you can get me.”

      “I’m Harriet Harman, you know where you can get me.”

      “I’m Harriet Harman, you know where you can get me.”

      “I’m Harriet Harman, you know where you can get me.”

      YES HONEY, THE JOB CENTER

    • 78
      Yeti says:

      Did Harriet stop to check that the car was empty or no one working under it?

    • 82
      Anonymous says:

      Is it not illegal to drink drive????

      Calling the tea-plot black comes to mind

      • 132
        Rog says:

        Look. She would definitely not have had a drink. The stationary vehicle maliciously collided with her, HER! A Very Important Minister!!

        To suggest alcohol was involved merely shows you to be a sexiist, wimmin-hating counter-revolutionary.

      • 143
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        Difference is, prick, Guido was done for it.

        Ever seen a Labour politico min Court? You will.

    • 185
      Cynic says:

      Isn’t using a mobile phone while driving and then colliding with a parked car dangerous driving?

      I assume the Met are fully investigating and that the CPS will apply the full rigour of the law to her as they would to any other poor sod who did it?

      So that’s:-

      1 count of dangerous driving
      1 count of failing to stop and exchange details at the scene of an accident
      1 count of using a mobile while driving

      and aim for 2 convictions out of three. Given the seriousness – using a mobile in a crowded inner city street and losing control of the vehicles – then making off thats probably worth £500 and a 3 month ban for the accident and a concurrent £250 / 1 month for the fail to stop

      That will do nicely.

      • 193
        Anonymous says:

        Fuck will hapen to her the met will say that any witneses have refused
        to testify and she was using her phone on a matter of NATIONAL
        SECURITY

        • 214
          Anonymous says:

          So lets see if Hapless Harmfull really believes in the equaility that matters above all, ie Equality under the Law or will she claim som special dispensation !

        • 241
          Anonymous says:

          freinds in the eussr mafioso

      • 230

        She should resign. Though as shame is an alien concept to Labour MPs, this is highly unlikely.

      • 242
        Phil Free says:

        But the real question is, did she pay the congestion charge…?

  2. 2
    The Cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    Born to rule………

  3. 3
    Down with Brown! says:

    Dave clearly tells Marr he wants us to have a referrendum on Lisbon and will lead the campaign for No.

    • 5
      The Cunt of Monte Cristo says:

      Has he said ‘listen you jug eared, self regarding, pompous, Scotch adulterer, im gonna fookin smash the BBC’ yet?

    • 8
      Welcome to the machine says:

      Six months from government,and tories are already disintigrating.

    • 94
      Skippy says:

      Dave clearly tells Marr he wants us to have a referrendum ?

      Really? Seemed anything but clear to me, yes, in the unlikely event Dave gets elected before ratification he’s promised a referendum. But his steadfast refusal to say what will happen if the treaty is already ratified when elected was totally incomprensible.

      He asked us to believe he could not say because it may affect the ratification decision in the two other countries yet to ratify. If it had the effect of delaying their ratification, then surely, so much the better. Dave gets elected and we get a referendum. Where is the problem in answering the question? I suspect the Dave would be quite happy if Blair became EU prsident.

      Seems to me we have Blair MKII.

      • 109
        Chump says:

        This is what happens when diplomacy and politics collide. There’s a rather well-established rule that tells politicians of one country not to get involved in the politics of another. It’s a short series of steps from there to sending in your tanks.

        Without getting alarmist, there is a real chance that your intervention will have precisely the opposite effect to that intended: just think how worked up you would be if ‘Brussels’ started telling you what to do, how to vote…

        (Mrs Andrew Marr appears to be debuting her new face on Boulton. New haircut, sharp new wardrobe, only her core political values appear to have been untouched.)

        • 123
          Skippy says:

          I don’t see how Dave answering the question of what he would do if the treaty was already ratified can be construed as getting involved in the politics of another country. It is not in any way telling anyone in any country how to vote. Simply answering a perfectly reasonable question of great importance to the UK voters, how or why exactly, would an answer from Dave alter one way or the other the actions of the Poles or the Czechs?

          It is evasion pure and simple, and shows Dave to be just the same as every other duplicitous phoney canvassing for our vote in the next election.

          Rather, more likely is the scenario where Dave wants Blair as president of the EU, possibly for his own domestic agenda, but can’t say so, and is trying to have his cake and eat it by phoney promises on a referendum.

          Brussels telling me how to vote? Was this meant as irony? Brussels has made voting in the UK pretty irrelevant anyway, the more so with this wretched treaty.

          • Chump says:

            Two timelines:

            1(a). Treaty not yet ratified by countries A and B;

            1(b). CMD states what he would do if Prime Minister in country C, should countries A and B ratify;

            1(c). Countries A and B ratify;

            1(d). CMD becomes Prime Minister and is held to his earlier statement.

            2(a). Treaty not yet ratified by countries A and B;

            2(b). Countries A and B ratify;

            2(c).CMD states what he will do if elected Prime Minister of country C.

            The first is what Marr wanted Cameron to commit to. It presupposes ratification by the two remaining EU states and demands a position binding upon him, in the event that he wins the next General Election.

            Whether or not it counts as attempted political or judicial influence of another sovereign state, it does act to tie his hands in a way which is neither necessary nor timely. And yes, the point about Brussels was meant to give a pertinent example of how extraterritorial influence gets perceived.

            The second timeline is an approximation of Cameron’s position. All hypotheticals are stripped out because second-guessing the future is a mug’s game.

            Bien à vous.

      • 128
        The Ghost of Christmas Past says:

        Camorons gone and done a gordo.

        Referendum dave, and fuck the others.

        Referendum NOW or spend another 20 years in the wilderness.

        Vote UKIP.

      • 194
        pissed off pensioner says:

        Their will be no referendum, Daves “CAST IRON GARENTEE” is all hot air.
        The only way to get out of Europ is to vote for UKIP or the B+P

  4. 4
    Adam "I'm certain Eve was a virgin" says:

    I’m Toemails you know where you can find me

    • 20
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Are you? what about that tete-a-tete with the serpent? And how come she had to show you what to do? Add to that that Westminster is full of lizards and snakes and you have some serious thinking to do, me old mucker.

    • 212
      Fed up to the back teeth says:

      Up Gordon’s arse.

  5. 6
    Great Granddad says:

    “I’m His Majesty’s dog at Kew,
    Pray tell me Sir, whose dog are you.”

  6. 7
    Down with Brown! says:

    MArr doesn’t understand.

  7. 9
    Down with Brown! says:

    Cameron is doing a great job in this interview, calm, authoritive and in control. So much better than Gordon last week.

  8. 10
    How to get rid of Brown says:

    Guido, I’ve had a great idea about how to get rid of Brown – and soon. If Brown were to resign it would force a General Election under Constitutional law. Dave would be swept in with a huge mandate and now he’s declared a Referendum for certain, his installment as new PM is most urgent. This may sound weird, but here’s what we must do:

    Whether you believe this or not doesn’t matter; it’s been proven to work, though no one knows how or why. Every evening at the same time, set aside 10 or 15 minutes (the more the better) to intensely visualize Brown leaving 10 Downing Street having resigned. See the picture clearly in your mind. See the autumn leaves fluttering down; see them decaying on the damp tarmac of Downing Street. See the hoards of pressmen, the flashes of their cameras, their jostling for the best shot; the microphones shoved into Browns face; the clamour for a statement. See him whisked into a car looking totally crushed. See the car in your mind’s eye speeding out into Whitehall with its escort of security vehicles with their lights flashing, slrens blaring. Make this picture big and bright in your mind. See it, feel it, repeat it for as long as you can with as much conviction and imagination as you can. Make it complete.
    If we all do this every night from now on, Brown will soon be history and we shall be saved from the Lisbon Treaty. Do it. Do it today!

    • 13
      Whacko Jocko says:

      fuck off Uri.

    • 22
      Totally Pissed Off says:

      Why Dont We All Do This But Picture Him Face Down In A Ditch Lying Next To Mandelson ?

    • 43
      Sod 'em all says:

      Well I’m up for it. It doesn’t cost anything to try and the prospect of Blair the totalitarian control freak as President of Europe is more than enough motivation! Come on you lot – we must do something more than just moaning.

    • 74
      Finnpog says:

      And that is why an early resignation and GE, is the very last thing which ZNL and the Prince of Darkness want, and hence they will keep sending Winky out there to face the press and make a total chump of himself in the Palace of Westminster.

      You will have to remove the keys to to Number 10 out of Winky and Lady Peter’s cold stiff hands – and only then after Anthony Charles has been anointed as God.

    • 104
      Lil Olmey says:

      Is the car crushed before or after Brown gets into it ?

    • 162
      alex taylor says:

      l’ve tried that trick , but with truck loads of whiskey and a sign saying free to all, then the one about the lotto numbers still fuck all……….. but l might still open a cheese shop and get the first bus to the moon .

  9. 11
    Totally Pissed Off says:

    What Do You Reckon ! Car Was Ilegally Parked So In The eyes Of the Law it should Not Have Been Parked There ?

    • 108
      Joe Public says:

      But from the photo (above) it appears Ms Harperson is parking on double-yellow lines.

      Something Gov Mins are presumably allowed to do?

    • 125

      She was on the mobile? Was it a hands-free mobile, or was she using a hand held mobile? Only, her government passed some laws about that. ROSPA advise:

      The Law

      On 1 December 2003, a law, “The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 4) Regulations 2003”, came into force to prohibit drivers using a hand-held mobile phone, or similar device, while driving.

      The penalties were initially a fixed penalty of £30 or a fine of up to £1,000 if the offender goes to court (£2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles or passenger carrying vehicles with 9 or more passenger seats). From 27th Februrary 2007, the penalty for using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving increased to £60 and three penalty points added to the drivers’ licence.

      Still, I’m sure it’s just a civil matter, like forgetting to pay the Congestion Charge. Oh, no, wait – this one is criminal, isn’t it? She’ll fail a CRB check to look after her own grand children at this rate and won’t be able to go in to schools.

  10. 12
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Everyone knows that Labours’ key workers deserve special treatment so they can just get on with the job. just remember there are people out there that voted for crypto-stalinism THREE times. We live in a country of political chumps.

  11. 14
    Ratsniffer says:

    Marr simply cannot stop questioning Cammo about Europe…..he’s having to give payback to Pravda’s nulabour masters because he asked snotty about his pill-popping.

    • 30
      Dack Blog says:

      Of course he’ll be going after Europe. It’s kinda in the news. Jeez, I know the Beeb is biased but you scupper your argument when you exaggerate bias then say nothing when, for example, Paxo savages Ed as he did the other night. Get some perspective.

      • 43
        oh dear dear me says:

        Over the EU our Dave has just lost me as a voter,what happened to truth.

        • 63
          Dack Blog says:

          He never had me (so to speak). Truth? He’s a politician, ffs.

          • The Ghost of Christmas Past says:

            Yep he lost me months ago when he wobbled on this very issue…he’s been wobbling ever since.

            And hes says he believes in “straight” talking…….what a fucking dick.

      • 138
        Neuroscientist says:

        Paxo’s natural instincts took over because Ed was so crap. If Ed had been even remotely up for it, Paxo would have stuck to the script.

    • 45
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Cutting some slack to beast Cameron while gaining the mawkish sympathy vote for Gordon was always the plot.

      • 75
        Dack Blog says:

        Well, many were claiming that Marr only asked Gordon about the pills to set up Dave for a question about his drug taking past before the Tory conference. I didn’t hear one though.

        • 243
          jgm2 says:

          Yep. That’s what I thought. I guess there are no credible rumours at all about Cameron in that department after all.

  12. 15
    going mental says:

    Ha Ha good news sandwich for gordon

  13. 16
    Gordons Binnacle says:

    Yet another example of these socialist pigs believing they are above the common people and the law.

    Note to Harman: Orwells Animal Farm was meant as a warning about socialism, it was not a guide on public behaviour for cabinet ministers.

    • 35
      Harriet Harman QC(Quality Cυnt) says:

      We make the Law, ergo we’re above it.

      • 90
        Gordons Binnacle says:

        QC? I believe it’s hermetically sealed, this would explain her personality and contorted face. no one, could comment on its quality, including Jack Dromey.

  14. 16
    Down with Brown! says:

    Is Marr employed by the BBC as an impartial interviewer or a left wing commentator?

    • 24
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      I take that as a rhetorical question.

    • 38
      markedman says:

      Listen to Marr! You would think he was totally biased. He gives the pillock Brown an easy ride last week. This week he can’t stop cutting off Cameron when he’s talking. What a f*cking prick!

  15. 18
    Angry says:

    Another example of the contempt shown by this shower for the rule of law and the Birtish people. I hope she gets the book thrown at her but I suspect she will brush it aside and spin the whole situation to prove how difficult her job is and how we should treat them differently than the great unwashed.

  16. 19
    Julian says:

    Not forgetting the 3 points off her licence and the £60 fine for using a mobile phone while in control of a motor vehicle.

    Oh wait!

    She’s a government minister, so ordinary law doesn’t apply to her. In fact I think the police have to give HER £60 and a grovelling apology from the woodentop responsible for daring to question her driving ability.

    • 120
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      But if talking on the mobile lost her concentration-driving with undue care and attention-recklessness-criminal damage. Done up smelling like a kipper

  17. 21
    Stu says:

    Seriously what’s the betting she doesn’t get prosecuted even for a minor offence and this amounts to driving without due care and attention at the least.
    Now for the rant, just like that troughing lieing corrupt bitch Scotland who seems to have gone to ground, this is yet another example of another lieing stupid obnoxious arrogant member of this totally morally bankrupt government flouting the laws they helped to pass and no doubt because they think they are better than the little people, getting away with it.
    By the way Harbitch, there’s an election soon and you and your politically correct nanny state will, along with that one eyed Scottish twat will go into the dustbin of history where you belong. Frankly a bin isn’t good enough for you considering the damage you have done to this once great nation.

    • 122
      Captain Haddock says:

      There’s absolutely zero chance of her being prosecuted .. the CPS will decide that its “not in the public interest” to do so .. despite her appalling driving record ..

      The arrogant bitch deserves a good kicking merely for having the temerity to steal other people’s oxygen ..

      • 206
        Old git says:

        Back in the 70s and 80s there used to be something called ‘Public Interest Prosecution’; something that people entering certain of the ‘responsible’ professions (Military Officers, MPs, Doctors, Solicitors, clergy and the like) were quietly warned about.

        If you became caught up in a situation where you were suspected of committing an offence, the normal rules on whether to bring charges based on teh strength fo the case did not necessarily apply. Because of your position, you were *more* rather than less likely to be prosecuted. The thinking was justice had to be seen to to be done and any suspicion that you had escaped prosecution because of your profession would bring your personal and professional reputation and the operation of the law itself into question. I’m sure the intent of the warning was to make us extremely cautious about contemplating any illegality.

        A number of my colleagues fell foul of this in the 90s and I remember one very difficult magistrates court trial in which the man was acquitted. The prosecution said afterwards that they very much doubted that he should have stood trial, but that the DPP had acted because he held a responsible position. The man himself completely accepted that the prosecution should have proceeded and was delighted and relieved to be publicly cleared.

        It will be interesting to see whether a rapid fine or due process will be applied to Ms Harman, given her responsiblities both as a solicitor and as a politician.

        I am waiting both for her and for the Baroness to ask for full public hearings of the evidence in order that their reputations, that of their professions and of the law can be fully upheld.

        I’m waiting, anyway.

  18. 23
    President Tony Blair says:

    I absolve and pardon her.

  19. 26
    Down with Brown! says:

    Dave knows that our huge national deficit is the great elephant in the room that Gordon Brown and the Labour party will not talk about.

    • 124
      r supward says:

      Mar did a Gordon and lost his temper. how wonderfully professional, even Dave looked a bit concerned for him

    • 244
      jgm2 says:

      Dave is right. The big issue in this election (and the last election) is the economy. The economy is fucked. Labour fucked it.

      This is bad but is being made infinitely worse by the attempted cover up.

      I’d even cut Labour some slack about blaming every fucker on the planet except themselves for their economic insanity of the past decade if they simply ‘fessed up to how serious the situation is and took some credible steps right now to address it. But they don’t. The cover-up continues. And the cover-up involves committing 100’s of billions more cash we aint got simply to dump the ‘blame’ on the Tories when they have to sort it out.

      As with Nixon, it’s not the crime – it’s the fucking cover up.

  20. 28
    Ratsniffer says:

    Marr simply cannot stop interupting cammo, especially when he is saying anytihg against Nulabour policy…….

    • 36
      Anonymous says:

      It will make people more determined to vote Tory. Labour and their pravda apparatchiks at the BBC must be turfed out before it’s too late.

    • 50
      Angry says:

      Now Marr is trying to pin Cameron down on cutting public sector jobs. Do these idiots not understand that we NEED to cut massively in the public sector. We are bankrupt and need radical solutions. I don’t care if some of these people in the public sector think they have an important job- I don’t want a Real Nappy Co-ordinator in my local council; I want to pay lower tax and get value for money for what I do have to pay.

      Unemployment cannot be solved by the public sector. Cut tax, create incentives for business, they create jobs, the country get richer.

    • 55
      Dack Blog says:

      Are you watching a different programme? Yes Marr is challenging (and going on a bit on public sector unemployment) but Dave’s getting more than a chance to respond – and doing okay (and I don’t even like the bloke). It’s quite an interesting and detailed exchange compared to most.

  21. 32
    Down with Brown! says:

    Marr is accusing Cameron of increasing unemployment. No, that’s what the Labour party do. Every single Labour government we have ever had in this country has left unemployment higher than when they came in.

    • 42
      Stu says:

      Cameron is a god i can’t wait for him to be in office he actually has an effect on things even now. Tongue in cheek by the way.
      How the hell can Cameron have incresaed unemployment with a Labour government in power. Defies belief!!!

    • 60
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      I think there’s a little way to go, but by May, they will comfortably return their worst figures sinse 1931

  22. 33
    Anonymous says:

    It’s pitiful the way Labour and their many stooges in the media are desperately trying to invent a Tory split over the Euro referendum issue.

    Marr has obviously had his orders to bang on about it this morning. Cameron has given him a straight answer but Marr is showing his blatant Labour bias as usual.

    First thing Cameron must do in power is sort out plitically biased reporting at the BBC.

    • 39
      Ratsniffer says:

      people like Marr are digging their own graves……roll on the general election…

  23. 34
    Anonymous says:

    Laws are for the little people, not high-flying Labour lesbians.

  24. 37
    Ratsniffer says:

    What Marr is doing is trying to get headlines which Pravda can run all day…”tories admit massive job cuts!” “tories split over europe!” Marr is desperate to follow the NuLabour questioning agenda…

    • 93
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Those headlines will run anyway. It’s a looong time since the Beeb was concerned about disseminating fact where the Tories are concerned. for the record, 9 out of 10 Tories are of the opinion that the EU is a shit-hole. The differences are on how we go about turning the present situation to our advantage.

  25. 40
    Robin Hoodie says:

    Wonder if Baroness Scotland detailed Pension entitlements in the Contract of Employment for Lola?

    It is a mandatory requirement. Obviously not a mandalabour requirement!

    As for HH. It will be interesting to see if anything happens. The Police aren’t politicised are they?

  26. 41
    Geordie Girl says:

    Marr getting rattled because DC is controlling this interview.

    • 54
      oh dear dear me says:

      Too much of what we’ve said and what we’ve promised from our Dave.

    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      Marr has failed to rattle Cameron and instead has shown himself to be a (useless) Labour attack dog and a fool.

  27. 46
    Down with Brown! says:

    Marr isn’t even asking questions any more. He’s just given New Labour response to the answers Cameron is giving.

  28. 47
    dr spock says:

    what is infuriating is if we;
    1 drove into parked cars on mobiles
    2 broke employment laws and paid cash to employees
    3 lied on our mortgage application….
    4 bancrupted our business(a country to them)

    we would be fined or end up in jail,or be broke.

    one rule for them….

    • 96
      Annoymouse says:

      If you or I had previous driving offences and then acted in the way Har(hahahaha!)person has we would be strung up….as you say, one rule for us, free pass for the hoons.

    • 160
      Harman's Blowjob Lips says:

      How about a parliamentary version of the 12 days of Xmas.

      On the first day of Xmas, my true love gave to me:

      1 Tongan Cleaner
      2 dodgy Passports
      3 Mortgages
      4 Mandy comebacks
      5 Years in Jail

      - ?

      12 years in power.

  29. 48
    Ratsniffer says:

    Marr is rattled because if he doesn’t get some bad news headlines about the tories to try to derail their conference, he’ll have Nulabour on his back again…..

    • 65
      Angry says:

      Roll on the Tory conference. I want to hear Cameron say in his speech the following:

      “Labour are all Hoons who have ruined the country. I will undo all of the rubbish they have forced upon us. Vote me in and I will help this country get back to being something to be proud of.”

      No more needed.

      • 77
        Finnpog says:

        Note to editors.

        Please remove “Hoon”, which used to be the new-age acceptable euphemism for ‘Hoon’ and replace with the latest and approved “Chump”

        • 89
          Stu says:

          Well done that made me laugh.

          • Englebert Chumperdinck says:

            Good point, but I wouldn’t like to see the end of the word. It should be allowed to remain as a reminder from history of how a useless, troughing, self-interest promoting, self-enriching chump can be paid so much by us for completely chumping up everything.

      • 129
        Thunderbox says:

        Dave will have my household vote if he just….just hints at closing down or privatising al Jabeba.

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  32. 58
    Robin Hoodie says:

    The BBC is due for Privatisation. Not a moment longer after the GE.

    It will raise quite a lot of cash. What else can benefit from being competitive?

    Would love to see Marr trying to get a job in the real World. Hope he asks

    Cameron about Drugs.

  33. 59
    Ratsniffer says:

    here we go…..Marr to Dave: “you’re a rich man, you’re a toff”

    Classic NuLabour class hatred….

    • 66
      Down with Brown! says:

      Including photos of Dave in white tie at the Bullingdon. It’s the Crewe and Nadwich strategy.

      Marr wants to know how much Cameron is worth?

    • 72
      Angry says:

      So Blair was one step from the poor house was he? What about Deny Irving? Goldsmith? Straw?

      Typical class hate and only the union hardliner actually believe this shite anymore.

      • 161
        Suck this, Harperson! says:

        Isn’t Harperson related to Aristocracy?

        It would explain the inbred features, disassociation from reality, and feelings of superiority.

  34. 60
    Down with Brown! says:

    And Jud unleashes his killer question to Dave: “Are you a toff?”

    “Well it beats being a tosser, Andrew.”

    • 73
      Down with Brown! says:

      On the subject of moving in privileged circles as a student. Cameron wasn’t the one who dated a Romanian princess when he was a student.

    • 76
      oh dear dear me says:

      Did you see the Bullington picure in the background ,oh dear.

  35. 62
    PC PLOD says:

    OH Dear Oh Dear Seems Like Your Parking Permit Had Run Out!
    So You Had No Right To Park There !
    Infact Miss Halfman Will Now sue You For Criminal Damage to Her Car !
    And As For You ! You Are A Danger To The Public !
    Four Years In Prison Ten Year Driving Ban Three Thousand Pound Fine !
    And your Car Will Be Crushed

  36. 68
    Anonymous says:

    What a wanker marr is…complete cnut

    • 165
      Suck this, Harperson! says:

      As he went to boarding school, you can bet the jug-eared midget was bullied by Toffs’ on a regular basis. And hopefully some surprise bum sex as well.

      Cameron was probably half tempted to corner the Oik after the interview and give him a damn good thrashing.

  37. 69
    Ratsniffer says:

    Marr now wants dave to list all his assets and say how rich he is…did be ask brown that question? If not, why not?

    • 88
      nell says:

      He should be asking that question of Tony and mandy – their wealth is greater than Dave’s – and where did their wealth come from ?

      Oh yes it was troughed quietly from the taxpayer.

    • 173
      bandersnatch says:

      Marr is so rich he can afford Carter Ruck.

  38. 71
    Terrible But True says:

    Speaking of car cash politics, might we ask Mr. Brown if Ms. Harman will be driving him around?

    ‘Above the law’ drivers, eh?

    Better make her a Baroness quick-smart, as it seems to be pretty much a licence to enter Death Race 2000.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072856/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/mar/12/lord-ahmed-appeal

    Watching Mr. Marr now.

    His show paper reviewer for the Conservative Party conference… Polly ‘Why pick on Harriet? It’s not news’ Toynbee! There is a surprise. I guess Kevin Maguire wasn’t free for the other slot.

    But what is so funny is her having been programmed (by whom?) to intone, over and over again, the mantra about Tory EU ‘toxins’. To a ridiculous level.

    However, the most important story to our Andrew, is our Pol’s bigging up Dame Ellen giving up her boat for ‘climate (etc)’ promotion. One presumes she will also be giving up sailing (free air) for what mode of transport (hot air?).

    Currently watching Mr. Marr bouncing up on his seat trying to get the next distracting word in edgewise over Mr. Cameron as he tries to reply. I think the poor wee man might even have had an accident. ‘Tell me what you earn… tell me… tell me!’

    He seems, frankly, desperate, and in comparison to Mr. Brown, Mr. Cameron is getting away with a lot simply by being calm in the face of a rabid hamster with tourettes, as opposed to a balanced, competent interviewer.

    • 80
      Ratsniffer says:

      Let’s see what news headlines and clips Pravda run all day from that interview….we’re watching, Pravda…..

    • 135
      Thunderbox says:

      Just bring on Richard Littlejohn- the nemesis of the slag ‘pole dancing’ Toynbee.

  39. 85
    Welcome to the real world says:

    And the final score……..
    Marr 0.
    Cameron 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000………………

  40. 92
    Koba says:

    Don’t they say the Girls are worse than the boys?

  41. 95
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Yippee! Then crosshairs are back.
    Go on Guidy-baby, stick one up with Bruin in – you never know, it might just be the tipping point for the early stepdown we know is coming anyway!!!

    (Cue Guido style one line smartass pithy)

    You’d be doing Britain a far better service than he ever did…

  42. 100
    Stinky New Labour says:

    Stinks don’t it? The CPS will not prosecute Harriet because the head of the CPS is the crooked Baroness who Harriet will not condemn for exploiting an illegal woman immigrant because she does not want to be prosecuted for crashing a care while on the phone and then driving off.

    • 131
      Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

      Yes.

      • 142
        Jack says:

        Actually being a road traffic offence CPS advice for a prosecution would not usually be necessary the decision would be made by the local Police.

        • 225
          Mike Litorus says:

          Any local bobby making this decision will know his career is up the swanee, so it likely will go up to the tax dodging gangmaster…

          BTW, Marr, you were well pwned today, GIRFUY!

  43. 101
    Geordie Boy says:

    Police said they were due to interview Harman last week but didn’t “because of the Labour party conference”. What the fuck. So Chief Inspector Thicko doesn’t interview a potential criminal because it might cause embarrassment at a sensitive time. Three cheers for the boys in blue.

  44. 103
    Zoonie The Loonie ! says:

    Zoonie The Lazoon FromFireball XL5 Is Andrew Marrs Father !
    Check It Out !

    • 168
      Suck this, Harperson! says:

      Looks more like Brains from Thunderbirds. But without the glasses and charisma.

  45. 106
    Doc Trough says:

    Mrs Marr doesn’t think the Hattie story should be a front page splash.

  46. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Women drivers eh.

  47. 111
    Anonymous says:

    Women drivers

  48. 114
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    From Hatties car crash article:

    Normally, Ms Harman has a silver, chauffeur-driven Toyota Prius

    She would, wouldn’t she…..

  49. 116
    Hattie Harperson says:

    I DEMAND that you read this and act upon it! Do you, the lower orders, seriously believe that the law of the land applies to me in the same way as it applies to you? I am the deputy leader of the labour party, have served in the cabinet and have impeccable connections in both the government and the aristocracy. From my lofty position it’s not just the law I look down on!

    I DEMAND that you stop posting these openly misogynist comments about this alleged incident. I further DEMAND that the web master (more misogyny) remove the offending posts immediately. If you fail to comply I will place the mater in the hands of my friend and colleague Baroness Scotland, the Attorney General. A woman beyond reproach, I think you’ll agree.

    • 118
      Procrustes says:

      Beyond reproach indeed. But for an entirely different set of reasons.

    • 228
      Mike Litorus says:

      Herpes Hatesman, you do know you it *is* possible to use the washing machine if JD isn’t up to it you know?

  50. 119
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Some comrades are more equal than others.

  51. 121
    Baron Scotland says:

    I hope the Baroness wasn’t overpaying the serf.

  52. 126
    Anonymous says:

    The whole point of a law against hit & run drivers is that there is a presumtion that they do so because they have something to hide ie no insurance or pissed or both. So Harman were you pissed or had you been drinking ? If found guilty ( and the fact that she is Harriet HARMAN) IS NOT A DEFENCE IN LAW. She should face a sentence of a similar magnitude to a drunk driver, thats how the courts operate for the little people. In other words Harriet Harman should be disqualified from driving for this. Lets see how this pans out, no doubt she will claim reasons of security and such nonsense.

    • 148
      Gordons Binnacle says:

      The fact that she is Harriet Harman, of the Labour party, means the law is unlikely to get involved

  53. 136
    Henry Crun says:

    Luck Hattie Hatemen didn’t kill someone whilst talking on the phone and driving at the same time. She may have been sent to jail for a week.

  54. 139
    Anonymous says:

    As she was unable to prove otherwise you must assume that she was drunk, on the phone and speeding.

    And if she doesn’t own up in 14 days that’s double punishment.

    • 171
      Darth Mandelson says:

      Jack told her to get home and wash the dishes, then get Batman off the damn roof.

  55. 140
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Yes interesting that the plods decided NOT to interview the dyke during Liebour conference week, I will have to remember that one the next time the plods want a word with me.

    Funny they were not so keen to wait for Damien Green though.

    • 149
      Gordons Binnacle says:

      Good point. Not only did they not wait, they sent the heavy mob round to his house to terrorise his wife and daughter. And with that clown Martins agreement, over turned hundreds of years of parliamentary custom to find out who had been telling the truth about the government

    • 181
      AJC says:

      The incident took place on 3rd July. Why were/are the Police so tardy?

  56. 144
    Baroness Walthamstow Central says:

    Ere you honky slags, lay off me an me mate or I give yer a Miss Piggy in de gonads innit.

  57. 145
    Resorting to crude misogynism says:

    Have that Hattyman got lucky legs, eh?

    Lucky they don’t snap and go up her bum.

  58. 146
    snafu says:

    Harriet’s behaviour (and Patty Scotland’s, and all the rest of the NewLab illuminati), beautifully illustrates the depths of the contempt they have for us commoners. When they’re not preaching at us, they’re screwing us. Fuck ‘em all, as Jerry Springer The Opera so delicately put it, up the arse with barbed wire. Any politician who promises to clean out the Augean stables of Westminster has my support, and reducing the number of MP’s is only the necessary opening move.

  59. 152
    Sukyspook says:

    Are We Possessed?
    By Paul Levy
    10-4-9

    “C. G. Jung, the great doctor of the soul and one of the most inspired psychologists of the twentieth century, had incredible insight into what is currently playing out, both individually and collectively, in our modern-day world. He writes, “If, for a moment, we look at mankind as one individual, we see that it is like a man carried away by unconscious powers.”

    We are a species carried away — “possessed” by — and acting out, the unconscious. Jung elaborates, “Possession, though old-fashioned, has by no means become obsolete; only the name has changed. Formerly they spoke of ‘evil spirits,’ now we call them ‘neurosis’ or ‘unconscious complexes.’” To condescendingly think that we, as modern-day, rational people, are too sophisticated to believe in something as primitive as demons is to have fallen under the spell of the very evil spirits we are imagining are nonexistent.

    What the ancients call demons are a psychic phenomena which compel us to act out behaviors contrary to our best intentions.

    To quote Jung, “the psychic conditions which breed demons are as actively at work as ever. The demons have not really disappeared but have merely taken on another form: they have become unconscious psychic forces.” ”

    Rest at:

    http://www.awakeninthedream.com/artis/AreWePossessed.html

    • 218

      Harriet’s defence is that she was possessed by a demon acting through her magical tellingbone?

    • 238
      Atlas shrugged says:

      C.G.Jung ah, perhaps we can make a conspiracy theorist out of you yet.

      I would not suggest that a full understanding of Jung is a good idea. Only a person like Jung could possibly fully understand Jungian psychology, without being, or swiftly going half insane themselves. My-self being a fair example of someone who should never have picked up one of his books, never mind read and understood it.

      I don’t believe mankind is generally psychologically capable of dealing with his own reality. If he ever was in the past, he has most surly has been carefully and systematically conditioned not to be able to any more.

      You see the EVIL lie is now so very big, not even the people who still perpetuate same, can seek to imagine quite how enormously enormous the big lie has now become. Therefore the ordinary people of the western world in particular, can not possibly go anywhere near it, even in their wildest nightmares.

      Hitler,s infamous propaganda minister, had a few enlightening words to say on the above subject.

    • 240
      Atlas shrugged says:

      What I personally believe about Jung is that he misunderstood something that is very fundamental to his own conclusions. I could be wrong.

      That is that the Demons are born within us ALL, or turn up very shortly afterwards. These demons are of unequal power and determination to obey there own god head. The individual also has an unequal amount of power, concentration span, time in the day, selfish self-interest, limited talents, or general self conscious determination to resist the worst aspects of their respective Demons.

      After all it is a generally accepted fact, that EVIL, and especially things such as sexual depravity are far more fun then Sunday School attendance, or running Marathons entirely for so called Charity.

      Therefore people like GB are having the time of their lives shagging the shit out of every soul that voted for them, as well as every soul that did not. This whether they actually feel that they are having a whole lot of fun or not. In Gordon’s case clearly not that much, judging by the state of his face, and steadiness of hand. As I have indicated some resist the powers of darkness better then others, and others have a far darker side of this darkness to be constantly dealing with.

      However and whatever, the darkest of demons inhabiting the weakest, of subservient souls have a well documented and now highly established habit of climbing to the highest reaches of terrestrial power, and staying there by whatever method it takes for them to carry on doing so.

      These demons have a mission on earth, and that mission is to perpetuate the corporate pyramid structures that have ruled the destiny of mankind since the dawn of civilization. The mindless monkey picked up the bone, and the rest is history.

      Why they have done this, and for what ultimate Common Purpose, are of course the big questions.

  60. 153
    CaptainZ says:

    The BBC website and news bulletins make no mention of the alleged ‘mobile phone’ aspect of the Harman story. Interesting. Also, why doesn’t Harman’s spokesperson learn the difference betweer ‘refute’ and ‘reject/deny’. Only by proving an allegation is wrong are you able to refute it.

  61. 154
    Fume de ma taunt says:

    Will Brown be prosecuted for crashing the economy while on the Nokia to Obama?

  62. 155
    Labour Must Die says:

    The truth about Grand Socialists and Socialism is that its always for everyone else, not them. Everyone else has to use public health care, transport, etc, but the Grand Socialist has her Dacha in the country, and airplanes to take her there. The hypocrisy is naturally transferable to other areas, such as there answerability to the law of the land.

    • 156
      Labour Must Die says:

      whoops, look at that, I used there, instead of their – that’s EduKation for you!

  63. 157
    patriotic says:

    In the past not being very interested in A Marr or his lovelife,whats the bits I am hearing about love child,anyone care to enlighten me?.

  64. 158
    CaptainZ says:

    The Mail on Sunday, which has a front-page splash about Harman’s scrape, is strangely omitted from the BBC website newspaper review. It’s the only paper left out. Lots of Tory-bashing stories are reviewed though.

  65. 159
    Mista Harperson says:

    Is that Gordo the Kerb Crawler?

  66. 163
    Astonishing ZaNu Crooks says:

    “she was effectively paying Lolo cash in hand…”

    Exactly why she did not employ her cleaner via a reputable agency.

    No documents needed or provided, cash in hand, the rich effnics, love their slaves and if you can combine it with a bit of tax dodging voila!

    ….and she’s still in office.

  67. 166
    Watt Tyler says:

    Looks like this parasite has really taken the hard-working taxpayer to the cleaners: http://eotp.wordpress.com/?s=baroness

  68. 176
    Derek says:

    Surely it’s a given right for politicians and top state servants to be above the law? Is there anywhere where legislation states …and these laws apply to the political and state service elite?

    Unless it is mentioned we can safely assume they are above the law.

  69. 177
    Obama is a Twat says:

    “I’m Harriet Herman and you know where you can find me”

    Doing tricks on an industrial estate for £10 a time after next June.

    • 220
      Rufus Stone says:

      I’d want more than a tenner to ‘do’ that bitch.

      • 236
        Atlas shrugged says:

        So would I, much more then a tenner.

        I have no doubt that whatever happens to her adopted political ideology, she will forever be more then be able to afford me. This in spite of the fact that I don’t come even slightly quick, therefore I don’t come at all cheap.

        Just thought I would slip that one in (pun intended) for my ever growing amount of female fans out there.

        Oh and by the way, in answer to some of your more popular questions.

        Yes; most surly, some say enormous.

        Yes; it has always been true that size matters big time, but performance and having the given ability to plunge headlong into the deep deep depths of female sexual depravity, can, and in my case always does, transform the utterly sublime into something even better then perfection.

  70. 178
    AJC says:

    The Harriet Harman incident appears to have taken place in July. Why is there any talk of the Police delaying the interview because of the Party Conference?

    Didn’t Baroness Scotland received almost instant justice from the “Border Patrol”?

    • 182
      Terrible But True says:

      Polly Toynbee on the Marr show seemed to think that it had been ’saved up’ for the Conservative conference.

      Go figure.

      Didn’t seem to trouble our Polly whether the story was true or not, or what the consequences might be of a Cabinet Minister doing what is claimed. Andrew Marr seemed onside too.

      Just another one of those trivial things those who are in power and those they feed scraps to need not be troubled about, but which would weigh more heavily on the rest of ‘us’.

  71. 180
    UK Fred says:

    O/T I know, but I wonder if Snot Gobbler wished Celtic chairman John Reid all the best for today’s Auld Firm game. Celtic lost

  72. 183
    Hatties Toyboy says:

    Was it not this harlot who ‘forgot’ to pay a speeding fine in 2007?
    Said to be ‘an innocent mistake’ at the time.
    hahahahahahahahahahahaHarman

  73. 186
    Cynic says:

    “I’m Harriet Herman and you know where you can find me”

    Holloway if you forget to pay the fine again?

  74. 187
    Anonymous says:

    Gentlemen, gentlemen, please. It really is quite amusing to read all this ranting and raving and I could not agree more with all of it. In fact, this is probably the main reason I like Guido’s website so much.
    However, let us take stock.
    Guess who appoints the following:
    Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis.
    Home Secretary.
    Director of Public Prosecutions.
    Attorney General.
    Lord Chancellor.
    Justice Minister. (This is a recent invention, but still a useful one…… for them)
    Do you honestly think that they are going to start prosecuting their own colleagues and derail the gravy train?
    The nomenklatura is above the law. Geddit?

  75. 189
    Jimmy Sands says:

    Good to see someone taking a stand against traffic offenders.

  76. 192
    BBC News Editor says:

    There’s no story here. Mrs Jack Dromey has only broken the law. If it was the sort of scandal we saw under Major – for example if she’d been caught with her knickers down in a love nest with some cage fighter – or having an affair with the PM or somebody like Mandelson, then this would be something to get our teeth into to bring down the government.

  77. 197
    john miller says:

    This happened on July 3, so when the police say they are investigating, they mean that someone has tried to stop them cobering it up.

    Compare and contrast, Baroness Scptland admits to breaking the law, case resolved in 36 hours to prevent further enquiries. Harman commits an offense, police take 3 months to start an investigation.

  78. 199
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    I waiting for the news that Hattie has “reported the incident to the appropriate authorities” and “regrets” what has happened.

    As the prosecution said in the trial of the frame-using pensioner who was conviceted of assaulting (by poking her finder in his chest) a youth who had been throwing stones at her house, and subjected her to racist abuse she should “accept her criminality”.

    I posted this the other night on a different thread. It seems even more appropriate:

    …]the Rule of Law which really means three things:

    1. That everyone whatever their background or religion, whether they are the governors or the governed, is subject to the ordinary law of the land.

    2. That we can’t be punished except when the Courts find the law has been broken.

    3. That if it is to be respected the law must be properly enforced and the guilty person found and convicted.

    No nation ever retained its freedom for any length of time after losing its respect for the law, after losing the law-abiding spirit, the spirit that really makes for freedom without fear.

    1978 May
    Margaret Thatcher
    Speech to Scottish Conservative Party Conference
    http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=103684

    • 221
      mitch says:

      The only authorities she reported that too were the expenses dept for a hire car and repairs……why lose your NCD.

  79. 200
    Anonymous says:

    Here’s an easy one:
    Pretend for one moment that a guy called Joe Bloggs had been driving through Dulwich last July. We’ll make it the 3rd July just to give it a date.
    This guy was driving and using his mobile phone at the same time. We can’t know for sure but let’s also pretend that he was sober when he crashed into a parked car. The crash was witnessed by one or two people who are then told :”My name is Joe Bloggs and if anyone wants to get in touch here’s my business card. Good bye”.
    Do you think that three months later the Metropolitan Police would still be agonising whether or not to take proceedings against Joe Bloggs?
    I said it was an easy one didn’t I?

  80. 201
    Election result like no other... says:

    The scope of the election defeat that Labour are heading for will be so astonishing that people will suspect a vote rigging fraud – the pure HATRED for Brown and his criminal’s is so widespread,across all walks of life,that the loss will be stunning.

    Old,middle aged and just voting teenagers will crucify him at the ballot box.

    Rich,middle income and poor will crucify him at the ballot box.

    This is not so much a case of supporting the Tories as the key influencer,its more about getting rid of a group of hated people.

    The swing will become apparent within 3 hours of the polls closing – 1am on the Friday – perhaps Brown will try to pass a law that vote counting officials can only do it on the Monday after the election and only for 1 hour a day,just to prolong his miserable existence as the most rotten and corrupt person ever to enter No 10.

  81. 217
    Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    To quote the Mail,

    “Police sources told The Mail on Sunday she was due to be questioned early last week, but this was delayed because of the Labour conference.”

    Was this a decision by the Police or did someone tell them to lay off. Can you imagine Joe Bloggs saying to the local copper, “Don’t charge me yet I’ve got a really important event coming up”

    Yeah, right!

  82. 222
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    STOP PRESS … An advance copy of the intensive police investigation has been leaked …

    Its says “no further action will be taken”. You read it here first.

  83. 223
    r supward says:

    I notice she denies the allegation but it hasnt been made clear whether thats the allegation that it was her driving the car or using her mobile at the time or whether she drove off without giving her details. i have a feeling there will be a defence of being afraid for her safety owing to the “angry mob” that gathered round, so she drove off.
    “police are investigating a minor traffic accident”. i seem to remember a certain lord was involved in a major traffic accident where someone died and it was unclear whether the use of a mobile phone was involved. can someone remind me of the outcome of that one??. move along, nothing to see here

  84. 229
    midlifemisfit2 says:

    Don,t get mad….sit and wait for a precedent here…good for the goose,etc.(as if anyone would goose that)

  85. 232
    racialist, sexist, mentalist party says:

    “you can get me”

    at the job centre in 6 months.

  86. 233
    Atlas shrugged says:

    Well at least she did not say ” My people will talk to your people, much rush, urgent appointment”

    A better example of a member of the upper classes pathologically inspired inability to confidently confront a member of the great unwashed without a body guard, has rarely been seen.

    HST in this case it was clearly not because she believed that her life may be threatened. She simply could not deal with the possibility that they might actually touch her, or GOrDon forbid breath the same piece of atmosphere.

    What makes these puffed up puppet rulers so confident that many more then 50% of the population have any idea who they are, never mind their name and where to find them? Many may believe they might have seen the face somewhere before, but would have no idea what the bugger the bitches name was, and why should they be expected to do so?

  87. 234
    Lord Mandelson says:

    Letting women drive eh? They can’t drive, talk and avoid collisions, bless ‘em.

  88. 235
    MikeHunt4u says:

    Hang them!

  89. 237
  90. 245
    jgm2 says:

    That picure looks like one of those generic ones they put up on the BBC whenever the subject of ‘kerb-crawling’ comes up.

    Harriet Harman. Well I never.

    There will be something in her personal history to explain her loathing for all things sex-realted.

  91. 249
    Macthe knife says:

    After Harman gets kicked out at the next election, she will surely get a job as a social worker………long skirt…….black woolly stockings……worn with trainers…..certainly looks the part

  92. 251
    Paul says:

    If the story is true. Which I doubt it is. Never mind, never let the truth get in the way of a good story,mmmm?

  93. 252
    Max says:

    On Baroness Scotland I suggested this when the news first broke; it was an obvious corollary. On Harperson maybe we should offer a prize for the first spot of Jack Straw (or another ZNL numpty; who’s “in favour” at the moment, maybe wee Dougie Alexander?) telling reporters she is getting a hard time only because she is a woman. And no action from PC McPoliticised Plod since July…gosh, what a revelation.







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