Timing is Everything
The Sun stopped backing Labour the day Blair left Downing Street, today they formalised their position and came to a testy accommodation with David Cameron, merely giving him a grudging endorsement.
The Sun is ur-Thatcherite in outlook, reflecting the true beliefs of Rupert Murdoch, who does not deny acting as a “traditional proprietor” setting the editorial direction of the tabloid. Murdoch liked Blair’s hawkishness and is suspicious of Cameron’s timidity on economics. Trevor Kavanagh is also less than impressed with Cameron, don’t forget when Gordon became PM he predicted that Brown would win the next general election and “win big”. The Sun is fallible.
The support of The Sun is conditional, Murdoch wants an authentically radical policy agenda. Cameron is promising only half that agenda.
People who think Andy Coulson is overpaid should reflect on the timing of The Sun’s endorsement. At the most neuralgic point for Labour, in the midst of Mandelson trying to change the media narrative, when party morale just blipped up from flat-lining, The Sun disrupts the storyline.
Spin is about timing, a story works best in the right context, at the right time. Andy Coulson knows a good headline, it is his sense of timing that is priceless. Guido will bet a currant bun that Coulson suggested to his successor on the “Bizarre” column, Dominic Mohan, the new Sun editor, that the night of Brown’s fightback speech might be the best time to knock him back to maximum effect.
Are they attacking Brown, Labour or both?
PHWOOOOAAR!!! LOOK AT THE BIG BOUNCY TITTTIES!!!
what’s that Mr Murdoch ? yes I’m writing it down for the front page now.. and can I clean your arse with my tongue while I’m at it ? No, no problem at all. The usual place then and I’ll assume the position.
Why the surprise ?
The Sun sorry, Murdoch backed Blair so he’s still backing Blair 2.0
Hard to believe anyone could be more lightweight than Blair but Dave manages it
gigantic bouncing booberama!!!
I disagree, Guido. The timing is wrong for a piece of politics & I guess it’s got more to do with News International’s business politics.
Brown’s speech was bad enough to have tanked the party all by itself – Paxman was for once superb on the complete absence of credible content – and the way that the PM was shredded on the morning interviews was evidence enough that there’s nothing left in the bank.
Although it’s bad for labour, it would have done more damage for the debate to have run for a few days with Labour finding out the hard way that Brown’s speech hadn’t cut it at all.
I don’t think Coulson would have wanted the Sun to have gone this early; it actually gets in the way of a Labour implosion. I’d have preferred this to be the story eitehr the day afer Cameron’s speech or the day that Brown or his replacement called the election.
The general debate is now about the Sun and its influence not about Labour and its collapse. If I were Coulson, I would have wanted an endorsement directly on the back of the Conservative conference, a positive choice rather than a despairing one.
Unless of course, either of them has got something else up their sleeve.
The parade of the living dead literally had my toes curling. What were your highlights? The full frontal close ups of the grotesque Kinnocks, imbecilic thieves, or perhaps the cadaverous leering Straw? Broon’s bovine, unprincipled ‘wife’? Obersturmfuhrer Mandleslime? We need a fucking poll.
That’s REALLY funny!
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Do you fear lady bumps?
LOOK AT THE TITS!!!
We love tits at the Sun.
Just look at who we’ve had editing this piece of shit.
My word! This news does seem to have upset the trolls at the NuLabour Rebuttal and Astroturfing Unit.
Personally I wonder whether Murdoch’s decision is as groundbreaking as is being made out. He likes to act the “big influential newspaper tycoon”, but in reality he’s just another salesman hawking his wares round the market.
The public has turned against Brown and NuLabour – are they honestly going to continue buying a paper that carries on supporting him whatever the quality and quantity of the tits?
you think it’s only NuLiebore who think The Sun is a pile of shit ?
Please! don’t embarrass yourself
shit is shit
if you read Mr Fawkes intro you would have realised these Sun fuckwits predicted that Brown would win the next general election and “win big”.
Sun ‘readers’ probably do have to write out Ha Ha Ha as they certainly can’t read the paper without moving their lips
They may well do, but they’ll also play a big part in kicking Brown and his band of merry morons out of government, so don’t knock ‘em too much.
Its that Labour attitude of hatred for the English working class that will see them consigned to the dustbin of political history – they just never completed the plan to replace the working class with Muslims quickly enough.
The working class don’t read the Sun for Politics they read it for backpage sport and entertainment gossip.
You have just reconfirmed your sneering new Labour attitude to them.
Labour has it’s horrible pro-Islam appeasment policy to partly thank for this.
Let’s hope the conservatives take the correct action.
I happily sneer at the tiny minority of tattooed skin’ead rottweiler wielding chavs voting for fat bumboy Griffin but the majority of the working class are smart enough not to get their politics from a titrag
so in that regard they are infinitely more politically savvy then you
The Sun has a daily readership of 8 million, so thats one sixth of the UK written off as rottweiler wielding chavs. And not sure why they would vote for Griffin as the Sun is the most vociferous paper around in its opposition to the BNP?
You wish, Anonymous, you wish. Whether we like it or not, and as it happens I don’t, there will be a significant minority of Sun readers who are influenced by their simple political comments. Should take Zanu down to about 21-23% in the polls and a comfortable third place unless the LIbDems go along with Gordon’s overtures.
“We love tits at the Sun.
Just look at who we’ve had editing this piece of shit.”
Sounds like you’re shit scare you hysterical twat.
Fuck off dickweed
Mordochs Sun editors are world class morons
Rebekah Wade turned down the expenses disk and the new tit Mohan was the celeb gossip queen on the Bizarre pages for fucks sake
here’s one of Dominics more amusing quotes
“I’m going to pucker up and admit it -yes, I kiss men.”
Sounds very metrosexual and Cameroonian of him doesn’t it ?
Does Mohan bat for the other side?
My ENEMIES ENEMY IS MY FRIEND
Yes, quite so, Guido old fruit, but sensible fellow that you are, cannot you see that Murdoch has his own, highly dubious, agenda?
Items: foreigner, republican, anti-Establishment, anti-monarchy, non-British resident, non-British citizen, etc. I for one will never buy a Murdoch owned medium.
Were I asked to fault the Thatcher years, my immediate response would be the selling off of our assets to dodgy foreigners, BAA, The Times, Sun, etc.
Globalisation is Murdoch’s agenda.
Thankfully it is looking like the world is realising exactly what globalisation means and is pushing back.
Logically – Globalisation means that one person will eventually own everything.
Is Murdoch of the Tribe?
All those Lib-Dem friendly policies are McMentalists kiss of death for that party. Vote for Lib-Dem, get Labour. Any wavering Tory who may have thought about voting Lib Dem will now run back to the waiting arms of Cameron.
How many seats will the Lib-Dems lose after this?
did you somehow miss the comparisons to the B&P “Gulags for slags” here ?
I’ll give you a hand. It was the big story BEFORE this one.
Don’t think the cuddly Libs will think much of that one.
They should have changed the headline to “Labour’s lost tit” with an arrow pointing at Gordon Brown and the word “tit” written on his forehead.
And hopefully Sophie Howard somewhere inside the newspaper. I would buy that issue.
“They should have changed the headline to “Labour’s lost tit” with an arrow pointing at Gordon Brown and the word “tit” written on his forehead.”
When can you start Ashley, Monday ok??
Love, Rupy mwa mwa
Headline
“See inside for the biggest Tits in Britain!: Exclusive coverage of the Labour Party conference”.
“See inside for Labour’s biggest boobs! 12 years of nipple-head Brown’s tits-ups (pages 4-50).”
Labour’s knockers exposed
Look at this classic produced by Paxman and Ed Miliband last night. Paxman asks straight forward questions, Ed Miliband tries to answer them honestly. Problem being Miliband is trying to defend Gordon’s dishonest speech. The result is a sheer delight…warning not for those of a nervous disposition
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00n46fm/Newsnight_29_09_2009/
PS view from minute 12.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00n46fm/Newsnight_29_09_2009/
Car crash TV…
Paxman made Miliband look the stupid myopic air-head schoolboy that he really is.
Best interview Ive seen in ages. Paxman did spare him his life. I think he could have easily finished him off !
When he had Miliband on the ropes over this ‘promise of a referendum in the forthcoming manifesto’ why didn’t he finish him off by simply declaring that Labour manifesto commitments are worthless. Why would any sane voter believe you?
You promised a referendum on PR in the 1997 manifesto and you reneged. You had no reason. You had a massive majority and a manifesto commitment and you reneged. Why would anybody believe a single word you say?
Just flat out call ‘em a party of liars. Which is what they are.
at 21.07 he states we should not take the British people for granted.
Yeah right!
Paxman only finishes people off if they’re tories.
My god these are the people we have running the country. Ed Miliband looked like what he is a fresh face lightweight just out of nappies. New policies what a joke this all is and you can tell none of them believe what they are saying.
jgm2 agree 100%.
Unwatchable, he clearly isn’t too comfortable about defending the indefensible!
My file is corrupt, all I get is Shakira’s arse. Bonus.
All I got was some saucy popstrel singing.
More please!
That was almost as painful as watching Joanna Lumley dictate government policy live on TV whilst Woolas nodded it all along during the Ghurkas fiasco.
Errrr….get it right…GURKHAS.
Thank you
Or GOORKHAS if you wish to be pure.
Well, Goorkhas if they are serving in the Indian Army or the now merged 2nd King Edward’s Own. For the rest it’s GURKHA.
Clearly a “must see” for politics watchers, cringing stuff.
Thanks for the video link. you will see the trademark bogie stuck to the edge of the lecturn at 4:17
OMG so there is !!!! A real live Bogie on the edge of Gordon’s lecturn
Yeah-planted. It’s funny how the camera zooms right on innit
The crap re 16/17 yr old pregnant girls is simply breathtaking – £30M support – that wouldn’t support more than a couple of hostels in one town.
Brown claims “from now on” – a complete lie
The local authorities have to come up with the money and it is “a new rule”
Oh shit another new rule – holy cow – this is worst than a car crash – this is suicide.
Wincingly embarrassing. “L-l-l-l-let me finish…” said the rabbit blinking in the headlights.
I think it’s some kind of NLP technique. It’s like when you phone (say) BA or BT or any fucker to make a complaint and they seem to be in a big rush to accuse you of shouting or ‘raising your voice’ or ‘using that tone’ or any fucking excuse they can think of to put you on the defensive. So they can then completely refuse to understand why you might be upset and get you off the phone as quickly as possible so they can get on with their job of not helping somebody else.,
‘If I could just finish…’ is another one of those. It’s designed to make you feel as though you’re being rude when he is the one peddling such an egregious load of bullshit it is astonishing Paxman doesn’t bust the chair into his smug, vacuous, arrogant, leering lying face.
700 million quid to provide free care for all the UK’s elderly? Fucking hell. I think Scotland probably spends that on a population 1/10th the size of Englands. Just pure lies.
‘We will tax the rich to make up the deficit..’. A deficit of 200bn quid and the 50% tax is looking to raise 2bn quid max. Where’s the other 198bn quid going to come from?
They are just pure evil.
Not to mention the disastrous effect the 50% tax will cause to the economy.
Don’t be so rude and horrid to the young man. Once he’s had his cock cut and his bah mitvah he’ll be a nice young boy that any country would be proud to take home and make its next Prime Minister. You filthy mouthed schmucks ought to be ashamed!
Where’s the other 198bn quid going to come from?
- easy peasy, £200 billion freshly printed notes coming right up sir!
Did you not hear Ed. They will save the 198bn by not spending it on the ID cards. Creative accounting. I have, for example, just saved £200,000 by not buying that Bentley Continental GT I was thinking about. …….
Brilliant!
I’ve just saved millions by not buying a Lear Jet!
Thank you so much – my debts will soon be gone
Better than that Phil the embarrassing. “L-l-l-l-let me finish…”
Followed by Paxman saying “I’m waiting for you to finish” followed by…. “ohh,really..erm..ahhh….rm..well…ohhh…It started in America?”
I’ve never seen Ed Milliband give an interview before (I don’t have a TV), but after watching that cringe making performance I’m left with the thought; someone, somewhere, at some point in the past, thought hiring him would be a good idea.
Did he bribe his way into the job? Was it nepotism? Did he suck cock?
The other applicants must have been a freak show.
For a while I thought I was watching a re-run of a ‘not the 9 O’clock news’
comedy sketch. Can a serious politician remain serious when he so evidently just picks figures out of the air? Oh, Gordon does that, and they call him serious……………
And Simpson of the Union says this is the man he wants for the next PM??!!
Another disgusting champagne communist – he would say that, wouldn’t he?
Why did Sarah Brown call Gordon a hero?
Ask the Widows of those soldiers who have given their lives in Afghanistan fighting Gordon’s lost cause what a real Hero is Sarah.
*applause*
hear hear.
and if sarah ‘turkey baster’ brown hasn’t figure out by now that her husband is an habitual liar then she must be a very dim person indeed.
which she is not which in turn means she is as dishonest as her husband.
innit.
Dim? No, dum.
Dummer than manglebums dildo.
I distinctly remember Brownstump saying he wasnt going to “use his family” to support him, yet there it is…again! Second time in as many years.
Mrs Broon giving us a unique insight into Gordons positve attributes.
I notice she didnt mention his small penis tho.
He’s my hero….fuck me sarah, you dont aim too high do you?
By the look of her frock, she had been paintballing before going into the conference hall.
You are quite right that was a sickening moment for me. Sarah Brown proclaiming Gorgon as the hero is a complete insult to those brave dead soldiers. And why oh why has there been no representation at Wootton Bassett from government it is a disgrace. The sooner Brown the zero not hero is gone the better.
Seems to me the man is hopefully suffering, he get greyer by the day. If it was my husband that I supposedly thought was a hero, I would be getting him out of politics before it or the population of this country kills him. Personally I don’t care which, oh and the fragrant Sarah needs a lot of worl to turn her out like that.
Sorry I meant work, I just get incensed when I see, hear or think about Gordon.
good thing call me Dave has decided to pull the troops out then
what’s that ? he hasn’t ? oh well better luck next time
Whilst the death of every British soldier is of course regrettable, it is vital that our troops stay the course and continue to make the big supreme sacrifice, at the lowest possible financial cost, to protect a free and democratic Afghanistan and keep it safe from those fanatical elements who would, for instance, legalise the rape of women within marriage.
So you see; I cannot allow that to happen and that is why I continue to make the big decisions to send our troops off to die.
Tractor production up 15%.
And that is why I withheld money while Chancellor from Tony’s wild military adventures. The idiot wanted to spend money on helicopters and body armour but I diverted it to private financiers who were building our new shiny hospitals!
Hear, hear! Well said!
So Alastair Campbell says the Sun Switch won’t make much difference plus most Labour MPs and supporters are turning their noses up at the Sun’s readers.
I reckon they are on very dodgy ground here, insulting the Sun’s readership, these are the people who vote at a general election, biting the hand that feeds you is madness.
It’s a nasty habit they have. You see the Labour apologists denouncing anybody who dares question their fucked-up world-view as ‘Daily Mail’ readers as some kind of knee-jerk insult.
Now they find themselves doing the same to Sun readers. The problem is that Sun readers are the ‘swing’ voters. The white van men. The ones who actually change their minds as opposed to the Mirror readers and Mail readers who are, shall we say, stuck in their ways.
If these jackasses are insulting Sun readers then they are definitely suicidal – electorally speaking.
Excellent point. I’ve just pulled into a lay-by off the A12 and there’s a white-van man reading the Sun.
Oooh, got your number Ducky! I always pull off in a lay-by. Anyway, Gordon- you know Gordon, big butch acting Gordon, married that very plain girl as cover- he’s going to win thanks to little old me! And when he’s PM again he’s going to make me into Queen Mandy the First!
Well, there’s your proof: The Sun is read by layabouts in lay byes. He was probably dogging or waiting for a prostitute to murder.
And that’s why the Sun’s defection isn’t worrying The Great Leader at all. Not even a little bit. No, Never. Who? Us? Worried? Don’t make me laugh.
They are already leaving comments about sun readers here. Yesterday Labour loved them, today they are just thickos who should not be allowed to vote. This is the arrogance that is Labour.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23750607-gordon-brown-turns-on-media-in-tv-meltdown.do
It’ll probably guarantee the collapse of the Tory vote in Liverpool.
Hilarious!
The Sun has bought Google ad words.
Try typing Labour in to google and look at the advertisments on the left.
*snigger* priceless!
The only thing that McBroon does not seem to done is to go to US and recieve his personal orders from Rupy as B’Liar did, do you remember those, maybe it was the McDoom curse Murdoch was afraid of.
“Gordon Brown has played down the damage to his electoral prospects after The Sun withdrew its support. The Prime Minister has insisted that voters, not newspapers, decide which party will be in Government, and urged people to take a close look at his policies”
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090930/tuk-brown-it-s-people-who-vote-not-paper-dba1618.html
So why dont we get a vote on Liesbon then McDoom. Selective again you see and we have seen the policies and do not like what we see.
BiBi Gordon and Nu Lav good riddance!! You are about to be wiped out
don’t hear Cameron promising a vote on lisbon either
just some wimpy waffle about not letting things stand
He stated clearly on a televised interview that “if Lisbon is not ratified we will be given a referendum”. If ratified it won’t stand there.
I agree theres always a possibility they will do a Labour and ignore it but please get the quote correct and not just the part of it that supports your argument
Before you ask, I dont have a link unfortunately and don’t have the time to look but I assure you I watched it myself when it was said.
Yeah .. and I remember the last Tory Leader who promised us a referendum ..
I’ve still to meet a single person who voted “Yes” to joining the then Common Market ..
Cameron is a wet as a can of piss …
Cameron has promised a referendum on Lisbon if it’s not completely ratified when the Tories gain power.
If it is already ratified, there is nothing that he or anyone else can do about it, referendum or no referendum.
Except vote out Cam and vote in say UKIP next time.
ACOne Ukip will likely be illegal if Lisbon comes in to force because one can’t speak ill of the european union under its conditions. Either Cameron promisses an In/Out referendum this time or he wont get votes.
if if if if if
sounds like leadership and not the caveats and furious spinning of someone frightened of Ken Clarke and his Euro chums doesn’t it ?
“there is nothing that he or anyone else can do about it”
bullshit
Britain is still a sovereign nation and can abrogate any treaty it pleases
Dave just doesn’t have the balls
he could call a referendum and use the mass public support against lisbon to abrogate or negotiate some sense into these corrupt euro fucks
excuses
some people will always be satisfied with excuses even when their corrupt leaders are giving Britain’s primacy and lawmaking powers away
That’s true Expat. His only choice will then be to provide a referendum on leaving the EU and negotiating a bilateral agreement as with Switzerland or Norway as advocated by Dan Hannan and Doug Carswell.
We’ll see how honest he is then???
Cameron has explicitly promised a referendum on Lisbon, he voted for that when labour voted against and the liberals abstained in the commons, and the tories voted in favour when labour and the liberals voted in the Lords against a referendum.
IF the Irish vote no on Friday and the tories win the General Election, we will get a referendum.
IF the Irish vote no, but the Czech President does not ratify the treaty until after the tories have won an election, then we will get a referendum.
That referendum becomes moot IF the all the other nations ratify the treaty, why? Because labour have already ratified, gained royal assent and placed that ratification in Rome. This country has effectively ALREADY Ratified the treaty against the explicit promise in the labour 2005 manifesto:
(how many times have labour lied that they only promised a referendum on a constitution, NOT a treaty?)
IF all the other nations ratify the treaty Before the next UK general election then the treaty will already be law and part of that law is that individual nations will never again hold referenda on EU treaties.
The UK will then be in no position to hold a referenda on the treaty. WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT? The treaty itself already would prevent the UK from having the power to reject the treaty. It also massively reduces our power to re-negotiate, or change or amend how the EU is governed.
Wasting a few million pounds on a useless treaty that cannot in EU law make any difference would be utterly futile and a massive waste of money.
I would dearly love to know what Cameron means by “not letting things stand” but by trying to re-open and re-negotiate Lisbon, they would be onto a guaranteed loser.
IF lisbon is ratified into EU law by the time of the next election, the tories would have to be far more radical about the EU.
They would have to go to the country promising to hold a referendum to withdraw from the EU, and then, finally, we would have a real choice at the next election.
opps…
Wasting a few million pounds on a useless treaty that …
Shoud read:
Wasting a few million pounds on a useless referendum that …
no, you were right the first time
” People don’t kill politicians, newspapers do ”
(credit to original song writer for those who remember).
Wonderful stuff!
Brown admits on the Today programme that “We are insurgents not incumbents”
Now that is a headline!!!
Yes and his tactics are like a ‘Suicide Economist’
What like laying IED’s all around the economy….. Incessant Economic Disasters?
Incredible economic duplicity
Idiotic Economic Destruction
or
Illegal European Diktats
Anybody else feel that Naughtie gave Brown the easiest of interviews? Being charitable, perhaps he felt it was bad form to kick a man when he’s down, but I can’t help feeling that if Naughtie had been interviewing John Major in 1996, things might have been a bit more heated.
That said, Brown carried on digging his own hole. Asked about the televised debate with other party leaders “There’s a time for making decisions, and when the time is right….”
I felt that Naughtie was trying to get into asking the questions, but the trouble with Brown is that he steam rollers over the interviewer. This ‘chatty’ style only works if the interviewee is chatty back. Brown even bullies in the interview……… actually it is insulting to everyone.
I’m sure he said “we” in reference to the Labour parties prospects as well.
Yup, he most certainly did
Interviewing Ed Balls on Toady in 2005.
Here’s the audio file
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/observer/archives/JamesNaughtieWinningtheElec.mp3
Naughtie’s got form for saying ‘we’ when talking about New Labour, he used the term during the 2005 G.E coverage – we’ve just got another one – he said in unconrollable excitement as the results came in. I heard it. A senior Tory noted it when J Humphries was under fire for being biased, for being too ‘harsh’ on some N.L. crap, nutty fruit cake inane stuff everyone is well familiar with.
Thanks for that tip, think I’ll listen to it again.
I was only half listening and thought he had said something quite barmy like that.
Thank you Prime Minister, but I would like the person running the country to be decisive all the fucking time.
Ans who IS the person running the country ? Does anyone still think it’s McBonkers ?
Also said he wasn’t the sort to bring his family into the spotlight.
So who was it that did the warm up act yesterday?
drag artist?
She is a bit “tranny” isn’t she? I know I said that about Yvette Cooper too, but Mrs. Balls is a wee Jimmy Krankie type – “Sarah” is pure truck-driver-with-electrolysis.
Brown never answers a straight question it is so infuriating. In a televised debate he would be toast say what you like about Cameron and Clegg they would both slaughter McDoom. The way he stumble and mispronounces words leaves you thinking his more than a little disabled or perhaps on to high a dose of the pills.
New Labour Old Spin. Some stupid boy pushing Mandy’s line that New Labour are the underdog as this will “appeal to voters”.
New Labour are a dirty, empty shop in bankrupt Soviet Russia where the mad, jowly, thick set proprietor is desperately trying to arrange a few bogus items in the grimy window to entice people in, urged on by his gormless shop boys (political advisors) and shop staff (cabinet).
“We’re all free Mr Brown. There are no customers.”
How can any party with a built-in majority of 44 seats be an underdog?
If the tories and labour got exactly the same number of votes, labour would win an outright majority of 44 seats. The built-in majority in 2005 was 60 but boundary changes have reduced this. The built-in majority in 2001 was 66 I think, bet the boundary changes in Scotland reduced this.
Labour are NOT the underdogs. the fact that they are so far behind even with a whapping big built in majority shows what a shit party they are.
If labour do manage to scrape a majority, but get about a million LESS votes than the tories, then there will be blood in the streets.
They will have NO democratic legitimacy whatsoever.
.. not to forget Liebour’s important new status as the “insurgents” rather than “incumbents” in Mcsickman’s own words to McNasty on Today.
Can anyone explain to me how Labour can have a built in majority? I’ve heard before that the Conervative party need a higher % of votes in order to have a workable majority but am at a loss to understand how this is the case?
(I’m serious here, I honeslty don’t get it)
Labour equates to one of those ridiculous promotional display devices which were a theme of AreYou Being Served? Always being set up on the lingerie counter and watched by a distinctly unimpressed, if not disgusted, Mrs Slocombe, lights would flash hysterically and at increasingly frantic speed under lacy brassieres; lurid mechanical faces would form bizarre rictus smiles; knickers would twirl alarmingly fast and the whole thing would end with twangs and pops and fizzes and a puff of smoke. Then the mess would be swept away by the janitor.
He certainly wasn’t voted in …
Looking forward to pictures of Brown in a lightbulb…
A coffin would be better
Here you go! http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01391/lightbulb-brown_we_1391170f.jpg
It’s not a low energy lightbulb, the EU will prosecute you
The best aspect of the situation is that the more piling up of straws in the anti-Brown wind, the more he hunkers down. The more he does so, the more unseemly and damaging to his party his (increasingly likely to be forced) end will be.
No, don’t force Brown out, he would make a worthy Leader of the Opposition.
That’s Clegg’s job.
What would Compo’s job be ?
winding up foggy as usual.
(harking back to the classic series’ of LOTSW obviously)
Time for someone to look a bit more deeply into Murdoch’s business interests, and what deals have been done behind the scenes with the Cameron team.
Yawn….
I tend to agree however I notice this point was not raised yesterday or after 1997 I wonder why not? Well yesterday they were not in support of the Tories I suppose but technically still ZanuLabour.
Typical and Nu Labour Hypocricy personified.
I wasn’t planning to vote Labour anyway, but the Sun wouldn’t be doing this if there weren’t something in it for their owners, same as in 1997. It doesn’t really matter who’s making the point, if people are trying to influence votes through the press for competitive advantage, at least let’s know what’s at stake.
The Sun do this because they have a history of backing the next winners. That is why this is so significant.
Of course, Labour would never influence votes through the press for competitive advantage. If they did we could ask Campbell what his deals were.
They backed Brown and thought he woudl win big.
Didn’t you even read Guido’s piece ?
“They backed Brown and thought he woudl win big.”
If McBottler had gone to the country when he said he would, in september 07, he would have won.
Luckily the serial coward lost his nerve at the last minute and we all know what has happened since.
“Typical and Nu Labour Hypocricy personified.”
At least Cameron did not have to fly 12,000 miles around the world to meet Murdoch to beg for his support, like Blair did.
That was unseemly, as all the labour faithful were still boycotting the Murdoch press, their devoted leader was giving Murdoch a rim-job in his private jet.
Nu labour, nu depths of hypocrisy.
Cams fucking spin doctor was the News of the World EDITOR
do you need the dots joined up for you ? what a clown
Here are some financials; they have too much debt, TV is under pressure and MSM not for much longer on this earth. They know all this, they are clever boys. They could do with interest rates being low for as long as possible plus a kick in the arse for the BBC would be good, especially BBC online.
Let’s see.
You don’t have to look far into the BBC’s “funding” (read extorting) interests to see why it actively propagandises for the Left.
Lots of things coming together which mean that BBC is toast anyway; you can watch TV off a dongle now for example. If one of those so-called TV detector vans hoved into view you could swallow the fooker and resume normal viewing later. The dismantling will be fun, some bits will sell on well (to cries from ZNL of “the tories are selling off the family silver” etc). Can’t wait. Any bets on who might buy up the online bits? As long as it’s not rigged and at full value I hope.
Don’t sell it, allocate one share to each TV-License payer.
We do just that… the dongle costs £40 and works fine. Google ‘Win TV’.
Great – first we get to watch New Labzi fight for it’s very existence,
Then we get a re-run in a years time with the BBC, glorious viewing, concidering the years gnashing teeth.
Whoope-doo. The tories now get the retard vote.
So you’re voting Conservative now?
bouncy bouncy funbags AND Sun BINGO!!!!
Retrieving it from Labour. Do you think we should have an IQ threshold for voting?
Not if the test is set by Labour.
Guido, do you think having a high IQ is relevant, McSnot is rumoured to have a high IQ.
I rest my case.
There is no fucking way Brown has a high IQ. Maybe he completed one of them five question things MENSA puts in the paper to try and lure in people and, with its generous ‘results’ to appeal to the vain it declared he had a high IQ.
Maybe.
Or possibly, as a kid, before he got kicked in the head he was indeed a child prodigy. But there is no way this fucker has got an IQ of 180.
No fucking way.
Every single IQ test I ever saw has some questions involving numbers. You’ve got to be able to multiply, add, subtract, divide. Know your fractions, know your primes.
This fucker doesn’t know the first thing about numbers. Because if he did. If he understood anything_at_all about maths he would have a simple, basic understanding of economics. And he would know that he was creating a completely unsustainable economy floating on an ocean of borrowed money.
If Brown has an IQ of 180 then I have an IQ of 190. And Maggies’ was 280.
Brown? IQ of 180? Just another BIG LIE.
The closest he’ll get to 180 is a deficit of 180 billion this year alone.
An IQ of over 100 is “high”…
AC1 – it does explain a lot about the state the world is in when one realises that, by definition, the average IQ is 100.
That also goes a long way to explaining why there are still people who will vote for the Labour Party.
The only way Gordon got to 180 was to have the answers beforehand. A little like his education policies where everything is dumbed down to fit his IQ. Its all very simples the man is a total waste of space and soon to be on the political scrapheap where he belongs.
That’ll be it. He’ll have lied and cheated same way he lies and cheats about his ‘miracle economy’ when it was booming and how he lies and cheats and seeks to blame everybody else now it’s bust.
There is an IQ test of sorts – getting the X in the right box is a challenge too great for some.
How do yu spel ‘x’
If you can’t spell it, just put a cross in the box.
And probably for Cyclops too.
How do you vote if you are blind?
A vote is a vote and once they’ve voted the culling can begin.
who are these retards? the sun doesnt think its readers can make their own decisions? i didnt think anybody still read newspapers these days.
Er…. most tabloid readers need to be told what to think. Sun readers more than most.
I suspect, for example, during the Thatcher years when the Sun backed her crew to the hilt, that a far higher proportion of Sun readers went against the paper’s line by voting Labour than, say, far better-educated and perchance higher IQ Telegraph readers did.
Nobody “reads” the Sun. They only look.
Nobody reads the Sun. They drool over parts of it.
It is also useful if the bog paper runs out!
The Sun is not a bad read in parts, just about fills in the time whilst my bacon roll is being done. The political comment regularly makes sense. It’s all very well ZNL having a laugh now they are no longer “on side” but there is no disguising this hurts. And the tits are an irrelevant hangover from the 70′s, an affectation shared with, er, The Mirror. Who I believe are still with The Dear Leader.
From what I’ve heard this is a bit of a climb down for Murdoch. Cameron’s team were on the record in 2007 as saying “we know Murdoch doesn’t like us and we don’t much care” presumably knowing Murdoch would find himself between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I don’t doubt Dave is wetting himself with glee though.
12 years of a mistaken policy by The Sun that has helped put this country well and truly in the Brown stuff.
I knew then they had made a mistake backing the Blair grin. Now we all know!
Cheers to The Sun but a bit late.
agreed I have to say I thought along the same lines. McGurner was on TVAM this morning stating its not papers but the ‘British people’ that decided elections.
WTF? since when do that policy change happen?
Remember that is from someone who bottled out of an election, was never properly installed as PM anyway and deviously re-named a treaty to sneak it pass the people while slithering through the back door at Liesbon to sign away a thousand years of rights. This without the promised referendum as previously promised in a manifesto.
Cnut!! CNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUTTTTTT!!!!
It might not be the newspapers that decide elections but the BBC seems determined to prove that they can decide elections.
Agreed. I could never understand the editorial line constantly slagging off almost every policy (except war) that labour implemented and yet they still backed them. Made no sense whatsoever. They labelled Blair the most dangerous man in Britain and then told their readers to go vote for him anyway.
Fucking nob-heads. The decision to ditch labour is the right decision, but only 12 years too late.
The sun slags off labour and reports an extensive dossier of failure today. But the sun bears a large part of the blame too, for not holding labour accountable much much sooner.
Talking of timing, when does the Irish referendum result get announced?
Depends on the result. A ‘no’ might never get announced!
Is going to be a Yes though isn’t it….
Don’t lose faith yet. There are a lot of undecideds and the no vote COULD still win.
I think they will be announcing a “yes” result just before the polls open tomorrow morning (but embargoed until just after the polls close tomorrow evening).
Saturday afternoon.
……………..in 2015
McStalin on Pravda Toady this morning:
“We (Labour) are the insurgents now”………
…..does that mean we can expect IEDs around Tory Central office in the run up to the General Election?
What a crass thing to say for a Prime Minister – particularly when British troops are in theatre fighting real “insurgents”.
Let’s recall the army from Iraq and let them deal with these terrorist insurgents that we now have in the UK. I’m sure they’d be up for the job, with or without Chinooks.
A bit of dirty CRW is exactly what the Labour Party deserves! Can I enrol as a ‘Son of Iraq’ over here?
Yes, right now, and if ZNL won’t do it then the Army must act unilaterally and pull out. Preferably to surround Leeds and Bolton for a start. This would not be treason, the army swears to defend the Realm, that’s what used to be Great Britain by the way, not Afghanistan.
The slaughter of our lads is criminal, the maiming is sickening, and slimy faced Brown gurgles about saving the World. New Labour hate the Army, the officers, the men. That is why there is no true sympathy and no government presence at Wooton Basset.
I cant help feeling that ZNL get a warm glow everytime a True Brit comes home in a box or with his legs blown off.
This has to stop NOW.
Sickening in a really bad way to hear him say that. No British government has flexed its muscles and used its power as much externally and internally than New Labour.
Insurgents my arse. Oppressors.
1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent
2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one’s own political party!.
Funny use of “insurgent “wonder which version he prefers ,bit sick with our troops being killed fighting “insurgents”.
Good one Rufus. It would be fun to have an interviewer ask McDoom into which definition he intended to fit himself and his fellow scum.
If McDoom wants to stick witht hat description of himself, it seems to me that it is now the duty of every member of the armed services of this country to attempt to “neutralise” him.
No Gordon. Fighting insurgents needs real courage. Perhaps you should speak to whoever wrote this book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Courage-Eight-Portraits-Gordon-Brown/dp/0747565325
The return of Damien Mc Bride and the dirty tricks department. Expect some bad news on Murdoch, Osborne and Cameron.
Lets hope the Tory’s ban big Trade Unions, the massive pay those at the top get, the free houses, the travel.
Did he REALLY say that? If so that is fucking SICK!
Not surprising though from a party that gave in to IRA terrorists and now have hosted McGuinness at a lavish party in the Brighton Hotel he arranged to be bombed!
It will also be interesting to see which way the Financial Times goes. Up to now they have been backing Brown but his u-turn on the City may put this in doubt too. Support from this quarter was indirectly responsible for building the trust of middle England in Labour’s financial ‘prudence’ (bad call btw).
Brown will then have achieved the near-impossible and destroyed the coalition of interests that brought New Labour to power in the first place. Well done that man!
The FT’s gone political?? Fuck me. Can’t trust a word anyone says any more. There’s nowt left now among the broadsheets that isn’t partisan anymore, then. Thank fuck I gave up newspapers 4 years ago.
The FT is sometimes to the left of AlGrauniad!
I’m surprised anyone with a Bloomberg feed ever bothers with it.
I’m with you there, AC1. Gave up on the FT some years back now.
If Britain “leading financial newspaper” couldn’t see years ago that McDoom was the greatest economic catastrophe ever to have been visited upon these shores, then there is no point in reading anything else that it spouts.
Yeah, but he has managed to really piss off their traditional core supporters in the process.
I am sure that the big banking bosses will not give one shit that Brown slags the bankers off in front of the labour delegates, so long as he keeps sending them the tax-payers money to bail them out…
Brown = Billions and Billions and Billions for billionaire bankers and bugger all but a bloody big tax bill for the rest of us!
I forgot to say better late than never and whoope-doo too.
Don’t forget even retards have a vote and they will be gratefully accepted.
Pravda spinning for all their worth this morning but the tone’s distinctly down as they try to prop up the regime.
I don’t know if it was the endless repeat of the “it’s the voters who will decide, not the papers” rebuttal line, the careful framing of the “Securing Britain’s economic future” tag line in as many shots as possible or the interview with unreformed union luddite but there’s a palpable air of desperation in the ranks this morning. Most refreshing.
Sign of the times : AlJaBeeba, scraping the barrel for a supportive headline come up with “Scottish Sun not backing Tories” on the website.
Glama modewl shows us her breasts! in colour!!!
harriet harman keeps hers covered, thank god
Rest assured that they will have the studio full of Zanu’s to interview during the Tory Conference, whereas there was no Tories during the Zanu Conf!!
Normally there is agreement between the parties that each get their “week in the headlines” without interruption.
All parties and party leaders hold to this informal agreement. Except Brown, who uses the tory conference week to try to steal headlines. Remember how he went to Iraq to announce the end to the Iraq war? (when all he actually was announcing was a repeat of the existing Iraq policy)
I am expecting a few labour dirty tricks next week. I hope that the media will deny them the oxygen of publicity.
I must that voters, not newspapers, decide which party will be in Government, and that is why we must keep doing the right thing for as long as possible and postpone the election indefinitely. The hardworking british people cannot be expected to take the time to read our blindingly correct manifesto and they will be dazzled instead by the titties in the sun. As we know looking at the sun can lead to temporary blindness. I have taken steps to remove the electoral cycle of tory boom and bust and the country can now go forward with a leadership message of continuity with change. Change you can always trust. When I lost my eye playing the mans game of rugby, I never thought that my disability would prevent me from being lifelong leader of the UK, but Harriet Harmen’s new disability equality act will prevent the optically disabled from being forced to resign their job – especially when that resignation is at the behest of a tabloid gutter press . ( cue applause).
The Sun in Scotland hs the same headline but is not supporting the Tories, but will not support Labour or the SNP
The Scottish ‘Editor’claims it was his choice, obvioulsy thankful that the dirty digger doesnt listen to BBC Radio Scotland
The “Tits and Bums” may have deserted Labour, but Moredoughs’ broadsheets are still hiding their intentions. King Rupert wouldn’t be playing both ends against the middle now, would he?
Polly and the Grauniad have gone too, don’t forget.
Isn’t the sun a bit homophobic in this day n age? I’m not complaining just asking as its rightfully PC to be concerned about unfairness
nope, I do believe that the sun loves lesbians and has had features about which hollywood totties are bisexual.
What a fickle chap old Murdoch is. I’ll wager the atmosphere in Brighton has returned to the funerial today!
Go Rupert! attack Brown and is Marxist idiot chums by simply telling the truth – Even the tribal labourites of the north, Wales and Scotland might get the message.
If they can’t be persuaded to vote Conservative at least help stop ‘em voting Labour on the day!!!
The unreadable in pursuit if the unelectable.
Isn’t that what the tories have been saying since 1997?
Talking of papers what support parties. Also on Good Morning Scotland the Daily Record (aka Daily Retard) confirmed that it will be continueing to support Labour as it always has. Which is proabably why its in decline in Scotland due to a readership thats increasingly against its readership, who are increasingly fed up with the same old tat from the Retard
Gordon Brown for page 3!
Or his missus!
Sarah is now fair game for a rooting, now she has stepped
into the fray twice, and incessantly Twitters!
They make a lovely coupling!
Much as i loathe Brown and Labour i think you are out of order. Leave it be and focus on him and the party.
Has anyone seen Anne Main MP and Sarah in the same room?
Bairs wife never spoke at labour the labour conferance and she was fair game
agreed, IF Mrs Brown (who only married for convenience) kept out of politics, then she would be wholely out of bounds. But she put herself in the media spotlight and by so-doing has invited the firing squad herself.
She may genuinely see Gordon as her hero, but that only shows what a terrible judge of character she is and how gullible, naive and stupid she is.
As I understand it, a hero’s primary characteristic must be one of courage. Courage is a quality that is entirely lacking in Gordon Brown.
I wonder if she will dump him as fast as the rest of the country when he is not in power anymore.
Totally agree ..
She can’t expect to step into the political “arena” and when whinge to the “Lions” that she’s only there as a spectator … and neither can anyone else .. She’s “fair” game now ..
Though in fairness, if she & McSnot do stay together forever, she’ll be doing womankind in general a huge favour .. in as much as saving some other poor bitch being lumbered with the twat ..
Captain – I don’t think any other WOMEN have to worry about Brown targeting them with his “affections”!
There was a comment on the Graun the other day (which lasted about five minutes before being removed) to the effect that there was a thing called the Black Widow Fund, out of which, it is said, Sarah Brown was paid £140,000 to marry Brown, and an additional £50,000 for each year she remains married.
The fund was allegedly set up to ensure that Labour politicians of an *ahem* different persuasion could ‘encourage’ someone to marry them when the time came.
The comment said it was set up from money raised by Maxwell, stolen from his pensioners.
If you google it, the same comment appears still to be on the end of one of the Independent’s articles on Mrs B.
Hmmmm… interesting …
So when will the BBC stop backing Labour ?
Well the Labour party seems to have stopped backing Labour so I guess it will only be a matter of time
Directly after they stop being publicly funded.
They’re as close to a permanent ZaNu fifth column as you could get.
They already have judging by the way that Sian Williams ripped him to shreds in her interview with the lying twat this morning.
Very enjoyable BBC keep up the Brown-Baiting.
She was bloody good!
GB – no no that’s not true – those figures are wrong
SW – there from the IMF …………..
Beautiful
He couldn’t cope with Sian’s questions nor her technique
and of course – for Brown – she was a woman!
she IS a woman
link?
She might be a good interviewer .. but one has to question her sanity ..
Wasn’t that toss-pot Opik porking her at one time ?
That was Sian Lloyd the weather girl – with the wide mouth.
Don’t ask!
They won’t. The BBC represent the real core of Marxist ideology in Britain. For them the most important thing is to stop the Tories. It won’t matter how bad the New Labour government is.
My alarm clock is the BBC radio coming on with the news and almost every morning I can guarantee that the first two words I hear will be “Gordon Brown . . .”. I have never known a soviet-style “Great Leader” personality cult like it.
I agree absolutely – just remember what you’ve just said and when the BBC is culled – remember how it used to be – surely something to look forward to
Well said ELF. I now just have a good old fashioned bell-ringing alarm clock. Being shattered out of sleep by a loud bell is far preferable to the risk of hearing McDoom’s name when I wake up in the morning!
Obama?
An, empty vessel.
I wonder if the Common Purpose graduates in the tory party have been having words with their Common Purpose brethren in the BBC? They do not care which party is in power, so long as they continue to implement the agenda.
Simply it means that prospective parliamentary candidates standing in any labour seat can kiss goodbye to their deposits and many sitting MP’s will now throw in the towel and take the resettlement funds offered to them on ‘retirement’ . The tories will now have to stop messing around and properly engage in debate and release plans, numbers to be credible…
It’s the SUN wot done it! Gord Bless it!
Now let’s hope they hold Commie Ron (or sib Son me Ron?)
by the throat and make him declare a referendum on LISBON and
expose the cost benefit ratio of our membership of the Evil Union -
THAT will save billions.
Gordon on the Toady Programme this morning was obviously rooting
for World Government. He is one stupid sick dog – how can Sarah say
such things about such a piece of pond slime? Or does she throw the remote
back at him?
How much did he have to pay her for saying all that nice stuff about him?
What she does is called Twitter and that seems an apt description of the drivel that she spouts.
Sarah’s hero is Brown. Well she set that bar pretty low.
Hero? she does not know the meaning of the word. Surely the primary quality of a hero is one of courage? Well that rules Brown out straight away!
I think ‘meal ticket’ is the expression.
And she looks like she’s a 3 meals ahead and 6 shits behind
McSnot has put himself in the role of urban terrorist. Not surprising really after he and his henchmen feted the IRA killer, Martin McGuiness, at the Grand Hotel in Brighton yesterday.
Yeah, but at least he’d be one of the incompetent twats who blew himself up with his own bomb.
Did they?
How many British soldiers wounded in action in Labours wars for the hearts & minds of 7th century intellectuals did they invite to Brighton?
Worse than that Fred, try finding out if the gurning one has actually visited any of the servicemen or women who’ve paid the price for ZaNu’s “policy” anywhere, anytime.
Not only did he put himself in the role of urban terrorist, but he re-affirmed his world following, almost in the same breath. Bliar for President of Europe and McGordo for leader of the world. No wonder Sarah adores him.
I could support Brown for Planetary President
of Uranus.
Ah yes, the New Labour “Ethical Foreign Policy” –
………..is it nigh on 2 million dead in Labours escapades abroad now?
Ethical Foreign Policy – looks so malevolent and Orwellian with hindsight doesn’t it?
I thought it looked like a malevolent and Orwellian con trick in foresight, hence why I can proudly boast that I have never ever voted for the bastards.
I was never taken in by Blair’s fake sincerity and if I had any say, I would sack every media pundit that was. They are clearly sorely lacking in judgement and are far too gullible to write for the masses.
Brown has saved 15 million jobs!!! WTF did that statistic come from can anyone elaborate cos I am mystified by that statement.
Well, there’s all those CCTV cameras. Takes a lot of manpower to review all of that footage. Hard work but someone’s got to do it.
Didn’t *uckin save mine. Nulabours ever-increasing red tape and costs made the UK an uncompetitive place for my business. Thanks Gordon. Twat.
I think he’s saved them from being given to anybody
ROFLMAO!!!! Soo sorry, but that is brilliant dark humour.
15 million public slaves, I mean *servants* jobs no doubt.
He certainely didn’t go out of his way to help the private sector. Just hammered it with more red tape and taxes.
This is what we have been waiting for; a slow and lingering death for the Labour party and a slow and emotionally painful death for Brown.
No longer do we have to listen to Brown, now for a change he must listen to us.
Good on the Sun for rubbing salt into the wounds, the more pain the better, but it was all over for them anyway.
Cameron may turn out to be a useless pile of shit but at least he is a different pile of shit
I am most definately not your typical tory voter, but I have to say for the most part I beleive what I hear coming from Cameron’s mouth, whereas I cannot believe a word Brown says.
more fool you. I cannot believe a word either of them say. Unless Cameron shows by his actions that he will stand up for the people of THIS country, that he will defend this SOVEREIGN Isle from being taken to bits by the EU, that he will completely dismantle the police survielance state and scrap the intrusive “Big Brother” databases, and that he will try to balance the budget and make the tax and benefits system much much simpler and fairer and start getting value for money, efficiency and effectiveness back at the core of the public sector, and unless he demonstrated through his actions a commitment to reducing the size and burden of the state, then he will not get my vote.
It looks like he does not need my vote yet anyway, so although I am not a supporter of any of the three so-called mainstream parties, I shall reserve jugdement and see if he can prove me wrong.
I did likewise in 1997. The labour party failed to prove me wrong for 12 years. I do not expect any different from Cameron, but I would LOVE for him to actually prove me wrong.
Well said indeed Ned .. I’m with you all the way ..
Let the bastards EARN the right to my vote by proving to me that they mean what they say .. and that they can actually do what they claim they can do ..
We all said in July that attacking Coulson, The News of the World and therefore Murdoch was political folly.
Now it has come home to roost.
The election is Cameron’s to lose, lets hope he doesn’t come across as to smug. I hope he doesn’t start using the Mandelson tactic of personal slur and smear, everyone knows Gordon is a moron, we don’t need Cameron trying to reinforce a point everyonme grasps.
Conservatives should differentiate themselves by telling us what they are going to do, not by concentrating on what a discredited bunch on no hoper failures would do.
Let Labour destroy itself – Cameron does not need to get sullied in the mire.
Spot on the BBC tried to take the heat off corrupt Liebour MPs by bigging up a total non story about Andy Coulson made up by the Grauniad, I don’t think Coulson has forgotten that and I can’t wait for Norman Tebbit to kill the BBC.
HERE,S NORMAN………….
Agree. CmD’s best tactic would be completely to ignore him and Zanu like they no longer exist. Everyone knows the crime sheet and that they are guilty as charged. Time to consign then to oblivion.
At the LibDems conference last week there was next to no mention of NuLabour it was full on attack of the Tories. So it is pretty much what is happening. I think the tories next week will have to attack some of the policies and u-turns announce yesterday its to good to miss.
Agreed, he should rise above. Perhaps the tories should prepare a long list of labour failures and publish that online and only refer to it in passing in Cameron’s speech next week.
Something like, We all know that 12 years of labour misrule has been a disaster. We all know what they have failed in and I could spend an age reading out a long long list, but I won’t because it would take too long, it woulld be negative and it would turn many voters off. If anyone wants to read such a list it is on the website, instead I shall focus on the future because that is what the nation really wants to us to focus on. Sure some people will get a kick out of me attacking Brown, but it is far more important for me to focus on how we can rescue this wreck, this disaster, this scorched earth and create and build a Britain to be proud of once more.
and then not mention labour at all after that.
How much would the BBC be worth in an IPO?
The timing feels exactly right.
Give every TV-License holder a share and find out.
So much for the Dead Tree Press
Their influence has shrunk just a touch since 1997
Timing is indeed everything
So you would have thought an internet evangelist like Guido would have spotted the amusing juxtaposition of the Sun story with this story that is in it’s own way equally important and puts this one in it’s proper perspective
INTERNET OVERTAKES TELEVISION TO BECOME BIGGEST ADVERTISING SECTOR IN THE UK
The UK has become the first major economy where advertisers spend more on internet advertising than on television advertising, with a record £1.75bn online spend in the first six months of the year.
The milestone marks a watershed for the embattled TV industry, the leading ad medium in the UK for almost half a century. It has taken the internet little more than a decade to become the biggest advertising sector in the UK.
UK advertisers spent £1.75bn on internet advertising in the six months to the end of June, a 4.6% year-on-year increase, according to a report by the Internet Advertising Bureau and PricewaterhouseCoopers. To put this in perspective, in 1998, when the IAB first measured internet advertising, just £19.4m was spent online.
The internet now accounts for 23.5% of all advertising money spent in the UK, while TV ad spend accounts for 21.9% of marketing budgets.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/sep/30/internet-biggest-uk-advertising-sector
You’ll notice the dead tree press is barely mentioned so little is though of that mediums power these days
Every newspaper also has a website.
And Murdoch’s stupid enough to think he can start charging for that
Think the Admen and their revenue will flock to his papers sites once there is a paywall ? He’ll be lucky to give ad space away
And TV stations, don’t forget about Fox.
Sun ‘readers’ don’t care who runs the country, as long as she has large breasts.
The Times has also become relentlessly anti-Brown, if not exactly anti-Labour. Is it OK for them to be right for the wrong reasons?
Murdoch cannot afford to back the loser.If Cameron won without his assistance,he could in theory have a proper investigation into his companies by the competition authorities .Not likely,but why should Murdoch risk it?
BBC SAVAGES BROWN IN THIS MORNINGS INTERVIEW
Did you see it ??
At 7:45am Sian Williams this morning tore shreds out of the Prime Mentalist. He is such a wounded animal now that even the tamest of interviewers made him look like the lying deceivig bong-eyed koont that he is.
LET THE PHOOKER DIE SLOWLY !
Brown could do one popular thing before he goes. Stand on the empty plinth in Trafalgar Square for just one hour.
The fruit sellers would make a mint.
** claps **
What a waste of good fruit. Shit would be more applicable.
I saw the speech when I got back last night and struggled to keep my chicken curry down. I turned on the TV this morning to see the ugly twat’s gurning face again.
When you are mauled by Sian Williams (hardly Jeremy Paxman) I think the game really is up. He was also given a good drubbing by Adam Boulton on Sky, I think he was sitting in the same chair even. All these reporters must be queueing up to lay into him.
Sian is clearly positioning herself for the post-General Election Apocalypse when the BBC is broken up and she’ll need a job at the UK equivalent of Fox….
Sian is superb and the ONLY TV reporter who has her facts ready to demolish this sack of lying crap Brown.
She is miles ahead of any others and being a woman,she will keep on and on at Brown – I am male by the way,but I have little respect for the somewhat lazy attitudes of Boulton etc.
Sian – take them down!
Link Anyone? I can’t find it on youtube or iPlayer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8282112.stm
I agree, off with her knickers
I prefer to read the headline TEBBIT SAVAGES BBC
who reads that trash anyway ?
Voters mostly. And it is the most popular paper in the UK.
Who reads the Guardian and Independent then? Apart from gay beeboids and badly abused 14 year old rent boys no one I suggest.
So Harperson can stand up this afternoon and declare
Go to your constituencies and prepare for Oblivion
If Brown holds the council and general elections at the same time it could deliver a double whammy for him
How many Labour members does it take to prop up their organisation?
Or Go To Your Constituencies And Prepare For Unemployment !
Do MP’s get P45′s?
I’d sooner they got .45′s .. to the back of the ear ..
How about.
Go back to your constituencies and prepare for years of unpaid ‘work experience’ like current new graduates do.
All this posturing about the minimum wage and they have created a country in which many employers have ‘work experience’ people doing regular jobs that used to be paid. The media are the absolute worst when it comes to such exploitation just as they are the worst for nepotism.
Brown says he is touring the country to take his message out to “the people”
Right,this is where he arrives at Ball’s etc consituency in a hall guarded by police and sits with Labour activists only and they swop kisses.
Notice that Brown has NEVER been on the electoral tour – remember Major with his soapbox – I CANNOT believe Brown will even go out to any area where the public are – he will be lynched and the press will there to watch him being lynched
PHWOAA!!! Look at the tits on that front brench!
Burlesquesoni-like?
The Sun might have deserted McGay but the BBC hasn’t. Check out Nicki Campbell’s phone in with another list of left wing guests (no anti Brown callers or guest allowed) we have Neil Kinnock and Tony Benn’s bitch daughter.
Funny that I left the BBC two text messages on two different phones (anti Brown) neither read out nor a call to ask me to go on air, but I’m betting the BBC will read out plenty of pro Brown texts.
But next week at the Tory party conference there will be plenty of left wing guests on to attack the Tories and I bet if I sent in an anti Cameron text it would get read out.
It’s a fricking joke. isn’t it? It’s like a Labour Love Fest. Any anti callers not reqquired.
The bbc needs to be privateised i chose to pay for sky why should i be forced to pay for the labour love-in channel?
Because it keeps 25,000 left wing losers in jobs. Do you have any idea what would happen to the Cocaine industry in Islington if the BBC were scrapped?
Because Cameron has said he won’t
There is also the £3.5 Billion, privatised ?
PROSECUTED FOR OBTAINING BY DECEPTION.
Is Benn’s daughter as much of a hypocritical shit as he is? I didn’t hear the interview.
are you sure it was the daughter and not granddaughter, who is a PPC?
She’s a leftie turd and full of crap.
I caught the end of both Sky News and BBC News last night – the bit where they read out the next day’s newspaper headlines.
The Sky woman just read them out. The BBC newsreader couldn’t help himself “well thats the Sun headline, others are less biased”. I don’t recall the smug arsewipe making any such comments when the tables were turned.
The BBC will be culled under the Tories
They will be warned!
They will be targeted & monitored
They will be culled
What else can one expect from a grown man who still calls himself “Nicky” ? .. FFS …
Quote of the day must be from The Daily Mash:
“Brown makes the speech of Cameron’s life”
Inspired!
i think the Sun could have done this 24hours earlier for max effect
No, he would have been able to react and deal with in the speech, plus make other changes, like a local 30% Wapping-only Tax on newsprint for instance.
For a moment there I thought you were talking about Clifford…
So says the Guardians new online headline.
Try getting a tan but great for Global Warming
Very few newspapers are influential because most of them have an established political line and an established readership.
The Guardian will never change a reader’s mind because their readers are already staunch socialists.
Mirror like wise; only Labour supporters buy it and McGuire’s rantings won’t change anything.
The Sun is slightly different; it does change its views; its voters are floating and can be influenced.
The thing to watch is the circulation figures for the Mirror and the Sun.
If the traditional Labour supporter is truly fed up, he,(or she) will ditch the Mirror and buy the Sun.
Good point.
With that in mind, the Sun’s change in political nuance is more a matter of pragmatically following the opinion polls, which have been consistently and for quite a time rather poor for Labour.
The Sun’s reputation for backing winners is perhaps as much about following the herd (they pay for newspapers, after all) as about trend-setting. That said, the tone of the Sun’s political comment will undoubtedly influence some of the less free-thinking voters.
Indeed – and to add that Murdock and friends want to be on side with the incoming government, rather than the exprired one we currently have to put up with.
Dearie dearier me: The Love Labour’s Lost. Dumped by the soaraway Sun, with a particulary nasty “Dear John” letter on the front page.
Had to laugh at the stupidity of @kerrymp, who thinks the loss of the Sun doesn’t matter to Labour because “We’ve got Twitter”
Ahahahahahahahahahaha!
Whats up with everyone?
The big story is *BROWN PROMISES A CURE FOR CANCER*.
Didn’t anyone else hear that in his speech? He said it again and again, we are going to beat cancer… he said so!
Or was is so completely mad, stupid and delusional that no one could believe their ears so they instantly forgot?
The big story is *BROWN PROMISES A CURE FOR CANCER*.
Yep, heard that one too. A cure for cancer “within a generation”.
The flying saucer people told him…..
I could cure him – permanent, like
I heard it… I didn’t believe it.. my wife works in the cancer field and she went “What…….??? Dim bastard”
Slightly O/T My Nextdoor Neighbor Two Years Of Tests To Find Out He Had Prostate cancer! After His Chemo Told He Would “Have A Long Productive Life !” Died In Less Than Two Months Buried Him On Monday !
Except we have the worst cancer care/treament record in the whole of western europe And it sure aint going to change under labour. Just more lies, more spin and lies it’s what they do.
Yep, least access to cancer treatment in the world. I thought “you can start by funding cancer drugs on the NHS you tight bastard”!
They do fund all sorts of cancer treatments, many of the very expensive.
I hope you aren’t on about the drugs that don’t really work.
No. I’m talking about the newer biologicals (monoclonal antibodies) such as Avastin in metastatic colorectal cancer and all the ones turned down by NICE in renal cancers etc, which are very effective on criteria such as progression free survival. Also, in the UK, because of the measure of cost per quality adjusted life year being applied, any drug that obtains a licence for one of the many rare cancers (collectively not very rare) is unlikely to get funding. An independent study from Scandanavia recently showed that Britain is bottom of the league in Europe (perhaps not the world) with regard to access to cancer treatments.
Still fairly experimental, and not particularly impressive. Some of them wouldn’t be paid for by any sort of insurance scheme.
Are you saying that there should be no NICE and the taxpayer should hand over a blank check? The reality of the situation is a bit shit, and money can’t save you from renal cancer.
Look, he saved the world and he is World Statesman of the Year.
He is probably stronger than a locomotive and can clear tall buildings in a single bound.
Curing cancer will be a piece of piss.
No, he is according the “Equalities Minister” World Statesperson of the Year
Stupid bint. Sums everything that is bad about the Party and the Government.
She’ll be saying next that Liebour are having next year’s conference in Personchester…
He’s Cured The Problem Of A fully Elected House Of Lords ! Fill It with Unelected Ones ! Sorted !
He will cure all known Diseases in the World by the GE!
Seemples
Today he will be curing world hunger and building a perpetual motion machine.
. . . he had already cured world poverty ‘n ‘unger
I thought the Indians spent the money on Moon rockets instead?
. . . well yes . . . that as well . . . but even UK does that and more . . sputniks broadcasting the Dear Leader’s Voice . . .
This is why UK is TOPP !
innit
If he finds a way of postponing the GE then he will have indeed built a perpetual motion machine.
Perpetual motion machine? Tell me more
He will cure cancer the same way James 1 cured Guy Fawkes’ migraines.
Didn’t the Alien Lizards on that cheesy 70s TV series ‘V’ promise to cure cancer? Or was that the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica? Now we know what he needs his Sky subscription for – it is where he gets his policy ideas -The Sci-Fi Channel.
How Many years Have they Been Funded to Find a Cure ? They Never will The Big Money Is In “control” Same with Aid’s No Money In Cure Or Eradication !
Daft twat.
Cancer is often cured, but cancer is a hard problem. That’s the reason 100% of people are not cured.
My friends child luckily got cured of Leukaemia recently (with the standard of NHS care varying enormously).
However Big Money has nothing to do with it. A bigger factor is probably how socially negative scientists are perceived, this probably deters lots of capable people from becoming researchers.
Big Pharma don’t fund unprofitable cures for unprofitable diseases
they are a business and that’s a simple economic reality
no Lizards required
Hence most western cancers being cured.
Big socialism doesn’t cure FULL STOP.
I don’t think this is the first time – I’m sure he has announced in the past that he has cured cancer.
Guido: I suppose you DO KNOW that Brown is the only politician able to ‘magic’ Baps into Currant Buns?
The plotters, the party, the schemers have all failed to oust the largest turd on the pavement. Finally it is coming down to US, THE VOTERS, to tell this one eyed junkie that we loathe him.
The Tories won’t win the election with lightweights like Giddy Osborne and Cameroon, Brown will loose it.
I agree with you there, but then parties never win elections – the other bozos always lose it.
8 years time we will be going through the same saga, albeit the candidates being EU politburo approved – just like communist Russia.
OT but on the coverage of Brown’s speech on the news last night, I spotted an old work colleague of mine sitting on the front row, applauding enthusiastically.
Turns out he’s a would-be Labour candidate.
He always was a bit of a weirdo, to be honest.
I knew a girl at university whom I saw on the stage during McDooms stentorian conveyor belt of mindless platitudes. Turns out she’s going to be candidate for Wolverhampton East. What a stupid bint.
Was he the whosit with a whatsit hanging from his thingymajig ?
as they used to say in Fife
No, not him. It was the chap who always looks like an unmade bed, even in his best suit.
That’s cos Brown just unmade him
I disagree; Sun readers do NOT need to be told what to think, it’s just that only three of them can actually read
Ah, what a happy day. I reckon we may yet see some cabinet resignations – maybe even this week. Broon is held in utter contempt by everyone with half a brain. His wretched, dishonest, destructive reign is nearing its end.
This feels like Narnia, with the snow beginning to melt.
You are fucked “comrades”, you absurd posturing prats. Fucked.
Resignations? Baroness Scotland perhaps?
That shameless mare? Some hope.
What’s happened to the ridiculous & useless Baroness?? Why has the daily mail stopped covering this story? Has she issued writs to all the msp? Strange that the story has been cut dead in mid flow. So much for democracy!
It was knocked off the front pages by the Brown pill popping story and has stayed off due to the party conference coverage.
The Baroness just needs to keep a low profile for a few more days and she will have got away with it.
Leave off. I need the silly moo out working.
I hope you enjoyed saying that as much as enjoyed reading it!
Thanks
Great article by Peter Oborne in the Daily Mail today attacking Gordon Brown as a liar and a coward and for bringing Britain to the brink of bankruptcy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1217052/PETER-OBORNE-He-chose-save-skin–rescue-Britain.html
Pleased as I am that the Stun has seen some sense at last, it makes one weep to think that a mainstream political party requires the support of this RedTop’s readership to make it into office. One must conclude that the right to vote may have been extended too far among the populace of this once proud and mighty nation.
and one supposes if Samantha Cameron was prepared to get her kit off on page three, the deal would be pretty much sealed.
They should get Lucy Pinder now she is top Tory totty.
http://content.expressen.se/blog/24/53/17/honkensblogg/images/lucy2.jpg
I For One Wouldn’t Mind a Peep ! If She Does Cameron Will Get My Vote !
Bit of face sitting may help.
I find it highly amusing that Queen Nicki Campbell seems to think that Neil Kinnock is some intellectual giant who is a political expert. This is the man who lost an election to John Major when all the polls said he’d win.
Not only that but like all failed corrupt Socialists he pisses off to the EU gravy train.
Jesus now we have even more Liebour politicians on.
It’s supposed to be a phone-in about Brown but it’s just the Kinnochio show so far.
Once the Welsh Windbag gets into his stride, nobody else will get a word in.
Kinnock has no clue how much he is loathed by the voting public does he? This is a guy who contrived to lose an election to John Major. And then fresh from that brilliant act of leadership headed off to Brusselsalong with his equally talentless missus to engorge their sense of entitlement and to sell us further down the river, meanwhile enriching themselves beyond the wildest dreams of most voters.
Oh, and setting their kids up on the wagon as well.
If Nicki Campbell is a Labour shill then he needs to understand that every second that arrogant sack of shit Kinnock is regaling listeners with his faux sonerous, words-of-wisdom, boyo schlik another thousand voters are giving it ‘I’ll wipe the smug leer off that arrogant fuckers fizog’.
Sheffield 92 – well allrightttttt……..
Nobody listens to Kinnock. The blathering welsh hypocrite and his reptilian wife have spent the last ten years ripping off the taxpayer for as much as they can and stuffing the loot down a disused coal mine. It’s now three quarters full and they’re hoping to fill it all the way during the next 8 months. Their verminous offspring will then be set up for the next 5 generations.
I read somewhere recently that the Kinnock clan has managed to skim off about 10 million quid over the years from the UK and EU.
That’ll be the “known” amount then.
They have no need to hurry to fill up the rest of the coal mine, Geordie Boy. Don’t forget that in yet another McDoom master stroke, Mrs Kinnochio is now able to “Lord” it over us (at our expense) for the rest of her misbegotten life from the House of Lords.
Along with scumbags Martin, Sugar, Mandlescum and all the rest of the rotten crew.
“Not only that but like all failed corrupt Socialists he pisses off to the EU gravy train.”
That’s what the EU was created for.
Is anyone else sick to death of hearing about and seeing Sarah Brown? She is a professional public relations con-artist who is trying to kid us into thinking she is just a genuine little wifey. She is Brown’s last desperate throw of the dice.
Paul Dacre may have been fooled by her but I doubt many other people have.
Sarah’s introduction was so cringeworthy, I had to turn the volume off. Surely for any PR person this was an embarrassing mistake. Last year’s introduction was sort of OK, but this second one was dreadful.
Brown’s Back Stabbing Scum Cabinet Will Be Sharpening Their Knives Again But Has Anyone Of Them Got The “Balls” To Challange Him ? I Think Not ! They Will Just Go With Him To The GE “Like Lambs To The Slaughter ! Bye! Bye ! Brown !
I thought that they were bound to get rid of him to save a few seats but I was wrong.This week was their last chance before the election.From now on,a cabinet coup would make things worse.
nope, they have till christmas
after that it won’t happen
Silence of the lambs LOL
Da Glor’us Leeda ! He sho’ am da Main Man !
One day….many moons from now I will sit down with my grandchildren by the fire and tell them the stories of a political party called “The Labour Party”….they will turn to me and say “Grandad that’s a funny name for a political party….are you making this up grandad?”……..Labour must fall like an Icelandic bank and be broken up for good……..after that the Tory party and Lib Dems should be for the chop…..Long live the Libertarians……
The only problem with what was a lovely strory for your grandchildren, is the EU will they allow us to vote for anything but the EU,so you believe all Libertarians will make honest politicians ,psst do you want to buy a bridge.
Except because of NuLabours attack on my pension I will not be able to afford that fire, or the house that surrounds it…………..
I wont be able to afford grandkids.
All humans are flawed lolol so I can’t say they will make honest politicians…..
Murdoch will be dead soon, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray!
The trouble is his equally nasty offspring will take over.
There are two ‘p’s in ‘whipped’.
And we’re not interested in your masochistic tendencies.
Anyone else notice that McDoom, as reported by the BBC, is “off the fence now” and has “decided” what to do about the proposed TV debates?
And his decision is He Won’t Tell Us.
How does he get away with this tripe?
He thinks we are all stupid and the BBC helps him treat us as such.
At Least In The Debate He’ll Find Someone Who Want’s To Talk To Him !
Brown was whinging to boulton that the Media were stopping him getting his message to the people. Well wouldn’t a live debate solve all that? Plus as Boulton pointed out Gordon had one uninterrupted hour of Prime time TV yesterday to get his message across.
He should be grateful-anything which stops his shite spouting drone needs to be encouraged.
I used to read the Sun inside the Guardian so people thought I was brainy until they asked me why I was reading a newspaper 12 months old upside down.
I used to read the Guardian inside a copy of Readers’ Wives.
On the commuting train to London, I used to read the Guardian inside a copy of Playboy magazine so people wouldn’t think I was bent.
I have tried reading the Guardian upside down. And still it makes no sense.
Can YOU guess whose floppity dugs are under the Giraffe print?
The Sun is read by thick, knuckle scraping chavs who will vote whichever way the Sun tells them. And that is the problem for Labour, but seeing as they have created the horrible chav culture in this country they deserve all they get. As a newspaper the Sun is better used as an emergency supply of toilet paper or to clean up dog faeces.
Trevor K’s not a bad lad, though.
he’s a slaphead wanker
The Sun’s got a lot of knockers today.
Indeed, there’s a lot of heavy hangers about.
The Sun’s much more fun to read than the hectoring shite in AlGrauniad.
you put AL in front of Grauniad huuur huuuur huuuuuhhrrr
a job at the Sun awaits
Job Security wise The Sun will be around long after AlGrauniad and the Independent (of Reality) are only to be found in cached Internet searches.
and it would still be dumb shit for morons even if that was true
I thought you were trying to associate the Graunaid with AIG. A lot in common, bankrupt, state funded and full of crap.
Crap I’ve been modded for saying AIG.
The Sun has over 3 million readers, well I think they can read maybe they just look at the pictures.
On Election day they’re going to have special bingo ballot papers with mark X here and a free can of Carlsberg Special Brew.
For the first time in my life I bought The Sun as I felt I owed them something for kicking Gordon where it hurts. Actually it was quite readable and informative (only 20p today as opposed to 90p for The Times) and I do have rather a soft spot for their Defence Editor, Tom Newton Dunn, who appears on the Sky News quite often. Of course, I got a bit of verbal from the family, but I can live with that.
P.S. The page 7 girl was pretty if a little under dressed, but the photo of Gordon and Sarah kissing was very off-putting!
Let me help with that.
spot on guido,this is brilliant fun
GORDON BROWN ATE MY HAMSTER
Noo_Lie_Bore “LOST IT”
Had the phoney funny party EVER “got” it ?
You’ve got to laugh. On social policy, Brown has become more Thatcherite than Thatcher ever was.
Apparently.
Quite, and all the more amusing to compare and contrast the audience reaction to her name whispered by Ben Bradhsaw and the virtually selfsame audience’s reaction to a rollcall of her policies set out a day or so later by Mc Snot. Muffinheads.
There is NOTHING Brown won’t claim to be, if he believes it will help him cling on to power a bit longer.
Brown is beyond shame,embarrassment and parody. After going down on all fours to try to lick Obama’s arse, he then gets his wife to act as his cheerleader. Fucking hell. Has the man no dignity?
Maybe We Could Get All These Teenage Mothers To Become TOPLESS Models On Page Tree Then They Would’nt Need Benefits FWOOOOOOOR !
You wouldn’t be able to see anything through the folds of lard.
FWOOOOOOOR! look at the belly on that
Just glanced at Sky news. They had a building ( The Sun’s I think ) with a chimney with a ‘coolie hat’ on top. Like the Vatican. The Sun’s has blue smoke belching from it.
Titter.
Habeamus Papam!
Ora pro Nobis!
Nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.
Ah… the joys of a grammar school education (abolished by Labour)
Education was abolished by Labour, all kids get now is Indoctrination.
Reducation.
..sed libera nos a malo.
It cannot be right when people receiving benefits are allowed to bring up babies on their own. Insurgent Labour will ensure that every parent who is unfit to bring up their babies will be brought into our National Care homes and looked after until they can pay taxes.
Bringing up babies is too difficult for ordinary Sun readers to do on their own. They need our indoctrination and advice so that they do not foul the streets and cause us to miss our recycling targets.
Our old people need our care also. They should be kept in their own homes so that we can keep them under observation and control their production of greenhouse gases.
The tories don’t care, they would have people driving around all over the place making decisions for themselves. How heartless can they be?
Lebensborn project 258?
Labour policy now lifted from the BNP
Revolting.
This used to be a civilised country with an Empire. This is what happens when the great unwashed, semi educated take over.
Your Children Will Be Educated In The Ways Of The Party And All Thoughts Of Conservatism Removed From Their Minds ! Your Reward For This !Is A Lifetime On Benefits In The Land Of Milk And Honey While You Knock Out The next Generation Of Labour Voters !
COR, WHAT A TOSSER
Move Along Nothing To See Here !
Accolade for Brown. You Gov Poll.
“63% of viewers thought his speech was good or excellent.”
http://www.yougov.co.uk/extranets/ygarchives/content/pdf/YG-today-TopicalQuestions.pdf
Methodology.
They asked 673 adults who watched it.
If that isn’t a self selecting target group, I don’t know what is.
Who but the most die hard Labour Supporter could watch that rubbish?
Exactly. What was the point of the poll?!!
Yes and all 673 of the them were sat watching it in the conference hall.
Yeah. But it’s like all his budget speeches. It’s just all bullshit.
It’s only after folk go away and think about what he’s actually said or what this is actually going to cost that they realise ‘Hold on….’
It’s the ‘Triumph of the Will’ imagery that worked for Blair. Packed halls filled with cheering supporters. People get swept up with the mood.
But once they go home and think about it and once they see the analysis in the papers they’ll realise it’s just the same old lies. The trick for Labour and Brown will be to engineer as many stage managed events like that as they can in the run up to the election. Just as Blair used to have literally a busload of ‘spontaneous supporters’ following him around everywhere gurning into the pre-prepped TV cameras. Everybody loves a winner. Folk get swept up in the mood. They want to believe in the hype.
Leni Reifenstahl would be so proud.
But that is why so many folk are so enraged. They had a massive majority. They could have done anything they like. They could have done so much good. They could as they promised, have swept away devisive party politics and worked for a better, united country.
But no. They did, in fact do everything they liked. It’s just that they are so utterly incompetent and so ideologically raddled that they fucked it all up.
I could weep.
The Government generally can’t do “good” as the state is force and Force is amoral.
Mostly the government does “good” and trumpets it, but hides the bad used to fund it.
The government that does least, does best.
And the City and the Banks do it best of all!
The volume of credit was too large.
Regulators decide on the volume of credit and Banks allocate it.
Banks fighting for deposits to lend a limited amount of credit would be best of all (and was the situation pre Browns FSA disaster).
CDS’s and CLO’s
look them up and stop pretending the poor bankers didn’t have any choice but to leverage themselves to a level gamblers anonymous and loan sharks would gasp at while raking in Billions in Bonuses
Brown was an incompetent buffoon and totally failed with the regulation oversight and credit rating and but the Banks and City made the bets and took the bonuses
you get into bed with the financial sector don’t be surprised when it fucks you and runs off with your wallet
These Muppets were Creaming Their Knickers Over His Speach! Where Have they Been For The last 12 Years ?
As we have seen with the selction of Question Time & other BBC audiences, nothing is left to chance.
These people are selected. All political audiences are selected by Pravda on their allegiance to the Common Purpose.
BBC Pravda radio phone in’s – isn’t it obvious that the Unions & the dying Labour movement are deluging the call centres with fake callers?
YouGov/Sky poll is a load of rubbish. If NuLabour get a bounce from this I will be most surprised. Those propaganda videos before each major speaker were very interesting though, full of usual NuLabour spin and falsehoods. There is no depths to which they will not sink.
Actually I was one of the 660 odd and I can tell you I said I thought the speech was rubbish and made no difference whatsoever to my voting intentions. I am alarmed if anyone can be affected by a speech like this so I suspect those who reported a misty eyed return to Labour were lying for tactical reasons. I respect You Gov and they are usually pretty accurate forecasters. Any bounce will be a dead cat one!
More interested in supporting Norman Tebbit to become DG of the BBC. Go Norman!
I’m surprised they found 673 adults who watched it. Normally they would aim to poll at least 1000, but obviously struggled.
Exactly. I’d like to know how many people replied to the question, ” Did you watch Brown’s speech?” with ” Are you fucking kidding me pal!”.
The only way to watch a Brown speech is with the volume off most of the time, listen occassionally in order to heckle and then off with volume again! It really works. It also helps if you’re ironing, or reading a newspaper or a book at the time – that’s what we ladies call multi-tasking.
So Labour policy is now to copy the BNP over teenage Mums? What the hell is going on in this country?
And here we all are, mostly Tories in various shades of blue wishing on Call Me Dave, who with the greatest of respect doesn’t have a bloody Policy on anything.
All the poor sods, including myself, know is that whichever our next Government is elected those troughing, self serving, arrogant, impressionable, shallow, inexperienced tosser MP’s will do is TAX US MORE.
Our Single Mother Baby Factory Slogan Will Be “LABOUR FOR LABOUR “
What’s the difference between a single mother and a single man?
Single mother’s sperm count is higher.
Didn’t Bonkers Gordon, even by BBC standards, get an amazingly easy ride this morning on R4′s Today?
He did
But Sian Williams on BBC TV roasted him !!
But the BBC News Channel (on repeat) didn’t show the bits that GB badly fluffed
Brown’s speech was wooden and boring – no costings for anything. Sarah Brown – ridiculous, does she want to run for PM? no? well get off then. How much more Michelle Obamaisms could she steal – he loves our Country, he’s messy etc.
He may well be messy – how about ” he is a control freak desperate to remain PM at any cost, please be nice to him…..”
What Mrs Brown meant was that her lad Gordon leaves all his Farmy Farm animals all over No 10, he is so untidy!!
He’s messy and loud. I immediately clicked she meant his farts. Put me off my dinner.
you’re right – ‘hes messy and loud’ – so is Les battersby but I don’t want him wife droning on about it on tv.
She’s very unoriginal.. ……..Michelle Obama has said Obama is messy and had bad breath because he smokes. Might have worked for Michelle but certainly doesn’t for clodhopping Madam Brown. If you saw the Brown’s out together you’d swear they were on day-release from the local asylum. Their body language,their clothes,their general demeanour just shouts freaky and weird.
If The Sun says it then “so be it”. I’m voting Tory next election anyway but The Sun’s backing now has made my decision look ‘gooselike’
I’m so sorry for the state of British Politics
Milliband on Newsnight – this bugger is supposed to be taking decisions on behalf on my family for the future?
My God – simply staggering and simply incredible that this nothing can be in that position of power and influence.
When he was up against the wall,he simply said to the effect “well you’ve got me on the detail Paxman,but we are better than the Tories so there.”
Don’t ALLOW these fools to make decisions for YOUR family.
Take some fucking responsibility back.
Oh I am , I am .
The classic line from Ed Miliband to Paxman ” if you’ll just let me finish !” after about 5 minutes of this and about 5 repeats of the phrase a clearly exasperated Paxman said ” Will you stop saying THAT? I want you to finish what you’re saying……………”
Bloody hilarious ! Car Crash TV at its best.Who said that there is no humour in the Labour Party ?
O/T but really funny.Paxo was walking around the stands at the conference when he came across a woman standing in front of a funny looking little car.Apparently she was from Tameside Council and was flogging some kind of new energy efficient car? Not sure but anyway Paxo asked her how much it cost to exhibit at the conference.She wouldn’t say.Paxo was most upset that council taxpayers were funding this pathetic little stand. So council tax payers are funding the Nu-Liebor conference.Disgusting……..
Murderdoc was the first person the Scottish Monster prostrated himself to before he openly launched his coo to become PM.
Watching the little milliebuttplug last night just shows how far the mighty working class party come, at one time the not spoke about inbred member of the privileged family was kept out of the public eye, down in the country pile, but since the advent of the grinning thing and nulabore the guilt ridden posh fucks believed that even the dodgy mongrel could get his feeble little lilly-white spongy hands on the privileges and benefits of power, something the nobs hadn’t been able to get away with for a long time. But as we see the wheel has turned full circle and the party spoke for the people who once fought tooth and nail to change all this shit now brazenly do it themselves. What’s more, this fatuous little lord Fontlaroy was recently propped up as a successor to the Scottish Monster! can you picture the little wet fart strutting about the globe as Prim Minister of Great Britain, taking the big decisions, and saving the world Ha ha haha arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Brown’s speech required 50 drafts .
Are we being too hard on Brown ?
It isn’t his fault if talented speechwriters are hard to find nowadays is it ?
He has not been in charge of the education depatrment .
As usual poor Gordon cops the blame for something entirely outside of his control.
There is a proliferation of nasty people on this site .
regards ,
Kevin Mcguire
50 drafts of Special Brew methinks!!
Kevin McGuire just another Labour Drone. After the speech he was positively having an orgasm in front of the camera on interview. A complete numbnut.
Don’t say nasty things about me .
It is not my fault that I can see no wrong in the labour party .
Iwas born in the north east and my dad started braimnwashing me before my umbilical cord was cut .
It is unfair that you tory toffs are allowed to make up your own mind about politics .
regards,
Kevin Mcguire
According to Lab09 on twitter Harriet harman is supposed to mention the Sun later – given that it is not likely to be in the kindest of terms may I suggest that ‘The Sun’ do a special page 3 dedication for her and in the interests of equality bring back the page 7 fella for the day?
“Labour’s deputy leader said her party was “angry” at the paper’s decision to desert the party but urged members to use it to inspire them to victory.
“We may be the underdog but we won’t be bullied… this underdog is biting back,” she told the party’s conference.”
Wish the dog would just be put down and out of its misery.
I only hope for everyone’s sake the Sun pays Harperson NOT to get her mams out …
The only time I have met Brown was about two decades ago – outside Harrods trying to flog perfume in the great perfume scam – he had a load of accomplices who would buy the perfume from him to show the innocents that it was bona fide – I watched these same buyers then walk around the corner and hand the perfume back to other accomplices and then return 10 minutes later for a fresh crowd of innocents to be fleeced.
Now 20 years on he is doing the same with us.
Of course we can’t call the police cos they are too busy defending the scum who bullied the Pilkington’s – after all,they have their rights too, you know?
Guido asks if an IQ test should be a pre-requisite for voting. I believe there is a far stronger case for denying the vote from those that sponge off the Country. The long term unemployable, who delight in not working but living off the state.
I do hope that the Conservatives make these people perform work, cleaning streets, grafitti, polishing sewers etc. making local area’s clean and tidy. It would also introduce many to soap and water!
Won’t work – up until the 1960s (if I recall) in the US voting was linked to taxpaying which had the effect of excluding African Americans from the polling booth.
Margot Ledbertter had the right perception on this when she said to Jerry
” Democracy is a wonderful thing . But ,why give it to everyone ?”
No representation without taxation perhaps.
Personally I was rather disappointed that Gordon Brown didn’t get really tough in his speech. I had hopped that he’d step up to the plate and make the 2010 elections interesting but the Labour Party Conference I think has totally failed to make it big in my minds eye.
More of my thoughts here: http://wp.me/pyq3l-3W
You’ll never have it so gooooood.
Gulags for all!
Who will be the First Bonking Labour Minister for a SUN Tanning ?
Gordo???
Labourlist seems to be under a cloud of depression at the moment.
Yippie!
Campbell has just been bleating on ITV ” News” & stated that Blair will come out & campaign for Brown at some time.
If losing the Sun’s support was bad enough…
One can only hope that the widow of that kindly Dr Kelly counters this & smacks bLIAR in the teeth.
Bastard!!!
Would this be the right time to mention what fun I had with the big girlies at the local ‘naughty kids home’ in the early 1980′s?
Gulags for Slags….one way of keeping all the feral lads in one place, “sniffing”!!!
The fact that the Sun has stopped backing Labour since Brown came in as P.M confirms to me what I already suspected, that he is doing a more honest, a more courageous and a more true left-wing labour job as P.M. than TB ever did. Yes it would be nice to have the Sun’s backing but we have to remeber who these Sun journalists really are, a bunch of public-schooled anti-europe, homophobic, racist petty nationalist bullies. Good on Brown for staning up to the Sun and showing a bit of backbone! Just a shame this country is filled with so many twats that agree with the Sun.
guess you felt slightly differently about sun journalists when they were behind Labour huh?
so why dont you just go fuck yourself twat
No i didn’t feel differently about Sun journalists when they were behind Labour, if you read what I said then you’d realise that I didn’t admire Labour for going after the support of the Sun, although I’ll admit it was important
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