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Lord Lamont told ITV News…
“I think the PM is just human and Ed Balls is a pretty irritating person”
Gordon hasn’t got any verve.
“pass that Columbian marching powder George, there’s a good chap!”
*sniff* *sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*
“steady on Dave old boy there’s plenty for everyone”
How dare you say that about our future PM and Chancellor?
Its been said now. There is no way to quash the rumour
IS THERE ANY TRUTH IN THE RUMOR….
that Brown and Mandy were caught earlier this year having more than a cuddle in his office at Number 10. Apparantly so if you talk to the lowly office staff there.
IS THERE ANY TRUTH IN THE RUMOR….
that Cameron and Osborne were caught soliciting rough trade in their heady days at the Bullingdon club. Apparently so if you know the correct Piers Gaveston Society gossip queens.
bit toucht this morning Mandy… Wots up a bit grumpy the news channels didnt bother shoing your ra-ra speech ?
Did you see the gorgon? After mandlescum finished his Shakespearian diatribe he gave him a warm if restrained embrace, and pursed his lips, he was pink with excitement.
Mandlescum (unelected remember), gave a speech full of suggested promises, visions of a golden future with newlabour, – we will fight them on the beaches (so to speak), a little suggestive wink here and there, a flirty smile, a camp look, a bitter and twisted comment tossed in about the tories for good measure, he touched on his ‘royal’ labour credentials and his total undying allegiance to the labour party. WHAT A FAKE, he could nearly outdo the maestro liar blair.
The audience though, took the biscuit, (what an ugly lot!) Sitting there with they’re mouths open catching flies, staring up at the scum with total adoration. A religious meeting? Our saviour is born! This is the Labour party double clapping an unelected twice disgraced politician! My god how the mighty have fallen! Let us hope they never rise again.
My mother always warned me against voting labour, ‘cos she’d lived through it all before.
bit toucht this morning Davy… Wots up a bit grumpy the news channels are ingoring you this week ?
Septum up Joe….
Guido is the acid tab popping psychadelia merchant here. Not Brown. Brown studied hard and gave it his best to become something for this country.
What did Guido do? Traded shit and got fat off capitalist excess with banking cronies. Good on him.
You don’t hear Brown disparaging or refferring to Guido’s misfeasance do you? No.
Brown has class. Guido has a glass. One is proactive, the other is reflective, one has courage, the other, simply rage.
It is a testament to the heady arrogance of the young writer he fancies himself such a kingmaker and breakmaker as to begin making such awful youtube videos however.
I for one will not be rushing back here to visit after this distastefu display of slander and self-aggrandising idiocy.
Enjoy yourselves peasants.
Truth Out.
“Brown has class”… “has courage”…
…and who allows for the culture of the McBrides and Drapers of this world to smear the likes of Frances Osbourne and Nadine Dorries in a…
“distasteful display of slander and self-aggrandising idiocy”.
One is nominally in charge of the country’s Government, the other is not. One is a public servant, the other an independent observer. See the difference, right there?
Truth Hurts?
Up late in the Labour Smear and Propaganda department tonight sonny? Must be all the conference overtime.
hahahahahahahahahaha wanker looser truthwanker
Brown has class?
I’ve just spurted coffee over the screen.
Thanks for going, TongueBang
I detest Brown brown and New Labour but some of Truthbangs observations are right.
This video is pretty sick and unworthy of this site. Guido – take a demerit. In posting this you look draper-esque and devalue the rest of your posts.
Disappointed.
Bit of old school Goodbye Mr Chips you-can-do-better-than-this, Master Guido, disappointment affectation. Not bad.
Silver star.
TruthBang gets a gold star for humbug and righteous indignation. He leads the pack.
But the morning is yet young.
And you are aptly titled for your stout, nay groveling, defence of McBridean gossiping smears in a juvenile video form
there is no proof whatsoever
this is simply gossiping smears and we all know what that did to McBride but some here have laughably short memories
Do you think Guido will give you a little pat on the head for your poodlesque defence or does craven brown-nosing and arselicking come as naturally for you as it does for Mr Oaten ?
You said you were not going to rush back here to visit but I didn’t believe it. Shows you can’t believe a thing a Labour toady will tell you.
Throwing cellphones and printers about the room
That Youtube video
Snotgobbling
Selling the nation’s gold reserves at rock bottom prices
“Obama Beach” FFS
His strict dietary requirements
His cadaverous appearance
This is not normal behaviour and in any other job he’d be sent for a medical but then unfortunately Gordo is his own boss.
If we are now to accept political ineptness, incompetence and stupidity as ‘proof’ of drug-taking then George Bush must have been ingesting enough high powered drugs every day to put an elephant into a coma.
And fuck knows who you are confusing me with in your drug obsessed state but I have said nothing about not returning to this blog.
Time to ease of the crack Mr druggie
I never said “political ineptness, incompetence and stupidity” but thanks for reminding me.
I’ll add it to the list.
Oh yes and the GURNING. I know it isn’t “proof” but what the fuck’s that about?
Truth ? .. I doubt you’d recognise it if it bit you on the arse ..
Whatever you’ve been taking should be re-classified as an illicit substance (if its not already) ..
Goodbye .. you won’t be missed ..
Brown and his Government were responsible for the suicide and manslaughter of the mum and daughter in their burning car who were bullied while the authority stood by. This is replicated all over England. They are responsible for business collapses and ruined family’s’. IPCC and the miriad of quango complaints boards aren’t interested. I know this from experience. So Guido is correct and nothing is too much to shame and belittle this sham of a Government.
But they’re treating this type of bullying etc as top priority …..now!
This is the inhumane type of society newlabour has built. More interested by far in the welfare of bankers and the filthy rich, civil servants and their wages and pensions, their own property portfolios , foreign travel etc than the society that they’re paid to represent.
How they’ll fight to keep in power – it’s in their financial interest!
Brown studied hard?
But what did he study? The history of the Scottish Labour Party and even then only in the period 1918 – 1929!
Is that what made him so qualified to be Chancellor and PM?
The normal response to this, would be “deluded fuckwit”. However, in the context of the damage you and your fellow socialists have done in the last twelve years , that seems a somewhat inadequate response.
Luckily it would appear that , despite the beeboids best efforts, you really are going back to the margins of society where you belong.
Gordon has not specifically denied that he is on anti-depressants, either.
He didn’t deny that he had killed Kennedy either
I think we all know what that means
Blimey, did he kill Kennedy?
Yes, Charles.
Having just watched Alan Johnson speaking to both the Beeb and Sky, to replace Gordon with him would be a no brainer. Not sure the Labour party does no brainer though, they seem to prefer suicide to life.
Party booking for Switzerland?
sorry, no bollocks (which is important in a PM). If he did have, he’d have got rid of Brown by now.
Typical New Labour:
“Speaking to BBC News, Mr Johnson said: “This should never have happened and there are no excuses for this and there can be no excuses for this.
“This is an example of a complacency that we are determined to eradicate wherever it is.” ”
If there are no excuses, then you, as the Cabinet Minister responsible, should resign.
Bloomberg has a wonderful picture of the Prime Mentalist here: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aqRvUqkYV8ao
What it doesn’t show is the spit and polish he put on the glass eye before popping it back in.
There are thousands of people ‘out there’ with far worse physical handicaps than a mere gammy eye! He plays on his disability like an old violin. He’s a sham as well as everything else. Unless that is, you believe in the arch queen mandyscum asnd everythinbg she says.
very funny!
So what!
So he can quit on health grounds and you can put your hat in the ring Mr Balls
So you can put your balls in his ring, surely.
what, in the good lord’s ring?
Oi! Have you installed a saloon bar in that office suite of yours, yet?
And while you’re at it, seeing as we’re going through such difficult financial times, perhaps you could include some retail therapy in your complex? A small Gucci accessory shop? A tiny designer wear boutique? A miniature luscious lingerie section dedicated to the exotic designs of Dellolio (name escapes me), or perhaps a mini chocaholic store for the faint at heart particularly for those illegal foreign and other immigrants that so need our mother love.
You’ll upset Tim Montgomerie if you carry on like this Mr Fawkes.
Did you hear that Montgomerie idiot on PM yesterday. What a W@”&£R
Tim I think you can safely say wanker without fear of either moderation and self destruction.
Careful-you’ll go blind. Look what’s happened to McFuckwit.
guido lad can put a link to my foundation ?
http://www.affoundation.co.uk/
Fuck off twat.
Oi! Leave our Freddie alone, you filthy piece of distended rectum.
Fascinating to see man fall apart in front of ones own eyes.I would feel sorry for him, then I am reminded of the damage he has done to the country over the years-and the sympathy dissappears.
Rarely has one man empowered by so few, owed so much to so many.
I like
If McPills doesn’t like it he can always resign. Oh wait, he can’t, because in his own mind he’s utterly indispensible. Nobody else can do ‘his’ job, and he’ll destroy his party or his country sooner than let them take it from him. The Labourites would breathe a sigh of relief if he decided to go, but if they try to force the dog out of the manger he’ll make a horrible mess. A government should run the country, but for this lot it’s all about managing a psychopath’s ego – or rather standing back while Mandy handles him.
In my view his ego would be best ‘managed’ with a length of lead pipe.
He’ll make his horse a senator before it’s all over
Its his cavaliar attitude
Bound to be a Trot.
Spurred on by Mandy in the saddle
This is a bit of a taster of what to expect at the televised debate.
Very unfunny. Badly conceived, scripted and put together. Must try harder!
You fucking snob. I bet you wear green corduroy’s you sniffy сunt.
Swearing will get you nowhere. You must try harder too!
Is that comment the depth of your wit? I’ve had better comebacks from the speaking clock FFS. Try harder? You’re not even trying at all you retard. Oh wait a minute…..you are trying, very fucking trying.
I’m willing to bet you’re like my old art teacher who patted my bottom once when I bent over to pick up a pencil, you bent fuck.
Careful with those errant apostrophes Eric
What? Not with those M and S check shirts surely 13?
it made me laugh !
More like
What the fuck is this shit? I can’t believe I sat most of the way through it? Come on, you can do better than that.
Not your best work.
Mandelson’s anger is quite entertaining though
Brown’s on anti-hallucinogens
He thinks he’s the Prime Minister
Courtesy of ToryBear, I watched the clip of Marr asking ‘the question’ to Brown. It was dire – of them both. Marr fluffed his question, rambling on about Brown’s damaged eye and talking of ‘pain killers’. This gave Brown the excuse to combine his single ‘No’ with the bit about the ‘lexicon of … politics’, but then spend most of his time defending his ability to be PM with only one eye. A complete non-event: Marr obviously competing with Toenails for an OBN.
Has anyone noticed that the Beatles LSD inspired lyrics for Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds include a “Rocking Horse”??????
Gordon’s clearly been whacking off on these pills since the 60′s…………
‘Lucy’s died:
LONDON — The real life Lucy from the Beatles’ song “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” has died after a long fight against lupus.
The death of Lucy Vodden at age 46 has been announced by St. Thomas’ Hospital in London, where she was treated.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gAbXFXFF8Jy8BrOgximM9cVE3nTwD9B0BLHG2
I appreciated the subtleties guido , guardian readers must be choking !
you might this morning indy cartoon “suck it and see”
I found mandelsons speech a little scary “sailing close to the wind” gordon patted him on the back so hard mandelsons quiff slipped .
Darling was alittle more intelliagble paxman didnt quite get the necessary but he came awfully close , this wait for the pre budget report is a bit long winded , CW noted the term deffered spending cropping up , tut tut another case of swine creative accountacy flu could be on the way , a deffered spend is not the same as a cut . yet ed balls has overseen a £3 million (or is it £4 million) of his offices , complete with, wait for it a massage room (no doubt for the treasury stats) . yvettes question time was a bit too much for me , not like the orrid tories is hardly going to wash when your in your 12 year of goverment . They the borrowed a bit merkel magic by saying they hadnt yet completed some things , as though asking us we should take a longer view and that in the months ahead we might come round to thinking “hey you know what labour were right” and with that coco browns magic investment making automobile rose up and was pulled by 6 faires into the clouds and we all lived happy ever after .
CW is absolutely clear , that gordon cannot reduce the deficet by 50% in 4 years , in the next 4 years total borrowing will be £500 bn in “normal circusmstances ” this should be £150 bn , so halving £350bn of debt in 4 years means either he will have double didgit growth or be making £75bn worth of cuts from 2011 onwards .
but then again hasnt this conference so far been luke warm , he says reduce it in 4 years but doesnt show how .
Cw has a special gift for the stasi who are clearly politicsing and trying to gag an bully opponents , did Alan johnson say that he was tearing up the old GP post code system ?? is he paving the way for ta daaaa poly clinics .
mind you with virgin media annoucing a float who knows poly clincis or perhaps even a bank
Wicked
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/28/rumours-gordon-brown-health-blog
“Rumours about Gordon Brown’s health fuelled by unproven claim on blog”
Not sure whether this has been posted earlier.
‘”We have seen out there on the internet, the blogosphere, all these extreme rightwing people trying to put these smears and rumours about, all completely groundless,” he said.’
Brown is almost certianly not on a conventional MAOI, but there is one possibility that has been overlooked: Emsam (Selegeline tansdermal patch). Doses above 6mg per day produce MAOI inhibition and require the sort of dietary restriction Brown is said to be on.
Conventional MAOI drugs are rarely used now, but Emsam is fairly new. It comes in the form of a patch like Nicorette and is not heavily prescribed as it is expensive. It is, however, one of the best antidepressants available: little side effects and very energising with a slight speedy feel.
Were I aDr (despite the handle I am not) it is the antidepressant anyone in a demanding job and needing pharmaceutical treatment should be requesting.
Brown did not specifically deny he was on anti-depressants in the Marr interview.
…it is the antidepressant anyone in a demanding job and needing pharmaceutical treatment should be requesting…
That or a brace of bottles of decent Merlot
I prefer a good shit at about 10.00am,
I’ve diarised it
Class
Can I watch next time?
And it allows one to truthfully deny that they are taking tablets.
Excellent point, my subterranean dwelling friend.
Marred only by the split infinitive.
Actually, splitting infinitives is permissable – it’s a myth that it is ungrammatical. Check Fowler’s Modern English Usage.
It is a great pity for Labour that Marr did not ask Brown why he sold the country’s silver reserves for a song.
I don’t understand the painkiller bit, as I said in my blog over the last several weeks, the problem is not the misuse of painkillers. Rather the allegation is that Brown needs serious prescribed medication to deal with a mental health problem.
to my mind the drugs, which the rumours say are medically prescribed and not misused, are not the point. Brown’s mental health IS the point and relevant.
that is the point Marr ignored, painkillers are irrelevant. Odd that they were mentioned rather than drugs to treat mental health problems. I’m sure Brown would have welcomed the chance to quash the mental illness rumours……wouldn’t he?
“BROWN WILL PUT TACKLING CRIME AT HEART OF U.K. ELECTION BATTLE”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=abUo4SAb49Mc
………….Brown will tell Labour supporters tomorrow in Brighton, according to extracts released in advance by his office. “The decent, hard-working majority are getting evermore angry — rightly so — with the minority who will talk about their rights but never accept their responsibilities.”
The speech is targeted at voters who were attracted by Labour’s 1997 pledge to be “tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime,”
Crime cost the U.K. 78 billion pounds ($124 billion) this year, or 3,000 pounds for every household, according to the Policy Exchange, a research group. The measures announced by Brown could save the U.K. 3 billion pounds, his office estimates.………………………………
Sounds like the Master Hypocrite is at it again.
It’s this ‘government’ that is responsible for most of the crime in this country. Abolish them and we’d save an absolute fortune.
in fact this government are the real terrorists
they have done more to damage the well being of the UK than any small minded middle east group could, ever!
They’re not going to do anything about crime. Criminals are, after all, their client state. The only time they’re not committing crime is when they’re signing on to claim their benefits.
“BROWN WILL PUT TACKLING CRIME AT HEART OF U.K. ELECTION BATTLE”
Yes, anybody found over filling their bin or putting it out on the wrong day will be severely punished.
Meanwhile, if you’re a single mum with a handicapped daughter with a mental age of 4 and you have the local hooligans terrorising you and jumping on things in your garden, we’ll give you the great advice to shut your curtains so that you can’t see them.
Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime, blah, blah, blah, my arse.
Pity they didn’t put crime at the heart of their government in 1997. Hang on a mo’ though – of course they did. Crime has been at the heart of this government for nearly 13 years.
Classic, absolutely classic New Labour. Find the strongest and most emotive headline of the day and then position yourself on the side peope feel most strongly positive about.
BBC headline last night was Social disorder cause of double death in midlands therefore today’s press slant from govt is Brown to act strongly to eradicate the problem. Would this have been the headline without yesterday’s story? No.
If yesterday’s main news had been about the recession, Brown would be talking about acting strongly on help and support;
if the story had been GP waiting lists Brown would be offering to prosecute people who waste doctor’s time
If the story had been about MP corruption he would be offering to reform politics (again).
If story had been about Forumla 1, govt would be telling Eccelstone to get his act on order etc etc.
Whatever story had been., Brown would be preparing to say something strong about it today.
It has been the curse of Govenrment media handling since 1997; being seen to be angry and getting tough about something is better than fact finding and accepting responsibility for government failings. They only feel responsible for ‘sorting it out’, not for their own failings being the cause of it in the first place.
The key word here is ‘talking’.
How about less talking and more ‘doing’. But that requires someone who knows how doesn’t it.
Talk is cheap and for the last 12 years, that is all we have had (apart from hosing everything with huge quantities of tax payers money).
Looks like we are on for 6/5/10.
More ‘crack-downs’, more ‘fight backs’, more vacuous Labour soundbites.
Why, after more than TWELVE years of Labour abject failure to resolve these issues are we having to listen to all this shite about ‘come backs’ ?
Social order in parts of this Country seem to have passed the point of no return. It’s probably too late now to ‘tackle crime’ there; it’s endemic.
New Labour=Total failure
Pity then that the headline wasn’t about people in high office & incapable of doing their jobs .. having the courage & decency to admit such and resign ..
Oh .. but then Liebore in particular and Socialists in general don’t do either decency or courage ..
Why didn’t any of the police at the local cop shop check out the problem at the time? Because they have a civilian jobsworth taking the 999 calls acting as cut out so the boys in blue can get on with their diversity training uninterrupted probably.
Every aspect of public service has been turned on it’s head, and it comes from the top. I listened to a nurse who works in the NHS in some admin job who actually said to us, “If you came into my hospital, we’d refuse to treat you…” when my husband was telling her of the last dismal visit to A&E (a dog bite: waiting 3 hours, no information, no treatment, etc. etc) — I said “Precisely, so why aren’t you honest and save us the 3-hour wait?”
How is the 3 billion worked out? Nice round numbers I note yet again.
I think voters will be atatracted by your 12 year record rather than a soundbite……oh dear
What’s wrong with taking painkillers if you have a pain – a REAL pain? Lots of people take painkillers. Even better if you can take painkillers that kill REALLY, REALLY painful things like the rest of the Labour Party.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with taking prescribed pain killers .. that’s what they’re there for ..
Having had both knees replaced, I can vouch for their efficacy .. I still sometimes get pain from them & require pain relief on occasion .. so I have a “repeat” Prescription from my GP ..
If I’d been McSnot & I’d only been taking prescribed pain killers .. I’d have gone out of my way to clearly say so & if needs be been willing to show my Prescription to prove it ..
But he’s not is he ??
No disrepect Junican, but this is precisely why Marr asked about painkillers – in order to confuse and cloud the issue for people who don’t follow every detail of this sort of thing.
Painkillers have never featured as part of the debate until he raised it, the issue was always, and remains, about the suspected use of powerful anti-depressants.
This is almost like a deliberate dissimulation campaign – where a credible rumour is released to distract from the actual secret.
and suceeded pretty much..
It’s called a ‘red herring’.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, the indy(it isnt are you?) world famous for faked up and rigged polls has come up with one to show how the only hope for the left is a coalition, a liblab pact.
A not so subtle dog whistle to the comrades that defeat can still be staved off, this must be yet another cause for the ‘giddy euphoria’ the indy talked about recently when describing the mood of the conference goers?
The left just love their fake/rigged polls that tell them what they want to hear, what does the truth matter to them? The ends always justify the means with the socialists and that little phrase not only captures the very essance of socialism, it explains the tens of millions of innocent people murdered by the socialist faith.
Let me show you that little statement again folks and ponder its evil intent.
THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS.
The leftist/socialists believe that ANY action they take however evil is justifiable as long as it furthers the aims of socialism be it national or international. In the 20th century the world experienced the mind boggling horror and evil that the above phrase caused, its such a small set of words and yet it caused human misery on a scale still not fully recorded.
Now you may think that such evil is not in the hearts of our modern socialists? Well you are dead wrong and all because of that little innocuous phrase above, it doesnt matter how nice they appear on the surface, how deep they hide their true intent, if they have the power they will use it, if they need to use any method they will use it.
Socialism is a disease, a cancer on society always ready to appeal to the lower base instincts while pretending the opposite.
Only when socialism is eradicated can civilisation move forward.
are you a jonathan bowden fan !
No CW, I am an avid reader of your regular comments which I find among the best on this blog.
Our civilisation still has a perverted fixation with a thoroughly corrupted and corrupting political creed, politics in general is open to corruption but only socialism seems to feed and grow on corruption, it has a peculiar symbiotic relationship with all the negative human emotions like jealousy,hatred,spite,transference,bigotry,arrogance and it feeds off those emotions building around its dark core a thick shell of lies to hide its true intent and in that it has been very successful.
so what do the Lizards and New World Order have to do with it ?
“so what do the Lizards and New World Order have to do with it ?”
Where do you want me to start?
It’s interesting that labour are concentrating on emotional messages which actually inhibits logical thinking.
What makes it worse is that the emotions they are using are all negative; envy, fear, and hatred.
They are saying, “Things are bad now; they will be worse with the Tories. We might be despicable lying bastards, but the Tories are worse”
All the Tories need is a positive emotional message to counter it.
Offer us hope that things will get better. Even on our deathbeds we hope for something better.
things can only get better
yeah, Dave should try that as an official Campaign song and slogan
Agreed. The standard excuse for the political classes is ‘well that’s politics’
Why should we accept this? Why should they have a lower benchmark for civilised behaviour than the rest of us ? It is precisely because we have accepted this excuse that we are where we are.
Smears and dishonesty,rather than clear, practical policies seem to have been rewarded by the power to govern. Why is anyone surprised that that government is then a failure?
Witness this thread – Brown’s health state and medication may be a subject which should be aired but the manner in which it is being articulated is wrong. Would you like to be on the receiving end of such an attack? I think not.
This is also a distraction – the miserable record of this government over 12 years should provide plenty of ammunition.
Guido,don’t fall into the same trap.
Always worth repeating is one of Sir Winston’s better quotes.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery”.
Well said!
Or Auberon Waugh who observed that socialists tend to be either very nasty or very stupid people.
Usually both rolled into one.
was that before or after he was a Liberal ?
Who, Churchill?
“I said a lot of stupid things when I was with the Conservative Party, and I left them, because I did not want to go on saying stupid things.”
that Churchill
That Churchill was a top feller. Spot on with regard to eugenics and all that too – they don’t teach that in school though.
What ever happened to him?
He was annihilated by natural selection.
A vote for the lib dems is vote for labour.
You are correct that socialism is evil – all attempts to impose equality lead to perverse effects, because it is discordant with nature. However, the left are full of their own self righteousness, even to the point where they believe that “intentions” are more important than real outcomes. It does not matter to them how disfunctional society becomes in the spurious quest for equality, it does not matter how dumbed down and debased becomes our educational system, because the intent (greater equality) must be a self evident good right?
The words Baroness and Scotland come to mind…
Cassi – you are 100% on the money with this – Stalin , Pol Pot, etc. etc. = more killed in the name of Socialism than all of Hitlers ‘antics’.
Thankyou for your kind words, there are mass graves the world over full of the bones of the victims of socialism, many of these graves are still waiting to be found.
Millions of innocents still wait for justice in graves around the world, how long will they have to wait?
Pinochet was a socialist ?
3rd division tyrant relative to Stalin and co. Not Thatcher’s finest hour helping him evade justice, though.
National Socialist – a fascist. Fuck all difference really.
Anon121: Whereas Allende was all warm and cuddly was he?
I believe Cassandra K in her diatribe against socialism includes fascism as another manifestation of this evil – the “nationalist” variety. As is said, the difference between socialism and fascism is just a matter of time. We should be careful.
National Socialism is a fusion of left wing, state managed economics with nationalism and racism. Beats me why the media has allowed such politics to be called “far right”, since it is no such thing. Take the current British party whose name cannot be mentioned – their platform is pure old Labour of the Michael Foot variety, combined with immigrant bashing/repatriation rhetoric. They are not “right wing” – they are the racist left!
There are some black Russian citizens, but despite it’s professed record of not only socialism, but hard-line communism, not a single black person holds or has ever held any position in public office in the whole country…
In addition, last year 102 people were killed in racial attacks in Russia, and 450 beaten or wounded.
Why’s that?
Quite correct GordonIsAMoron. This is precisely why the B and P gets up the nose of the left wing media “chattering classes”.
The dishonest scum of the BBC, Labour Party, Grauniad, non-Independent etc etc consistently and deliberately refer to the B and P as “far right” with the barely hidden message underneath that “it is what the Tories and people who vote for them are really like”.
The fact that the B and P simply represents the true colours of the Labour Party (ie heavy taxation, state interference in every aspect of your life and racism) and a large portion of unthinking repeat Labour voters is simply something they cannot abide and so they refuse to admit it.
According to the Beeb this morning, Gordon is going to address anti-social behaviour. I hope he starts with people who throw mobile phones.
And tell lies. And steal things. Publicly.
Will that include the behaviour of the likes of the police at the London G20 summit resulting in the death of Ian Tomlinson??
Or the deaths of that lady and her daughter because of the hounding by local youths when no officer was available when called for??
Or for pushing an agenda of vaccinations in the same sentence as announcing the death of a young teenage girl after a cervical cancer vaccine??
Or for pushing the communitarian/common purpose agenda through “PROGRAMMES” like D A R E which has, imo, created more abuse of drugs and alcohol since its introduction into our schools??
As a parent who takes my responsibilities very seriously, I consider all of the above belong under the banner of ‘anti-social behaviour’…
I don’t consider the deaths of the lady and her daughter to be attributed to anti social behaviour. This was far, far, worse than that.
Our laws are such, that to take someone to Switzerland for an assisted suicide could result in their prosecution.
This lady and her family were hounded to such an extent, that she felt the only way out was to take her own life and that of her daughter. The perpetrators have a lot to answer for. All they were given was an ASBO, when they should have been in Court for far more serious crimes.
Quite. Manslaughter at the very least.
They should be killed
When I went to school, this ‘anti social behaviour’ was called crime, and the police tried to deal with it.
I agree. Anti-social behaviour (IMHO) covers kids hanging about on street corners, shouting until late at night/morning and that sort of thing.
What these thugs did was criminal. I cannot imagine being so depressed and vulnerable, that the only way out was to set fire to my car with me and my family in it.
It’s about time we were a lot harder on these thugs. Getting an ASBO is not a deterrent, it’s a medal in their world, and the sooner we start putting these people behind bars, the better.
It used to be called juvenile delinquency and it could be dealt with by giving the buggers a good slapping around the ear. That worked pretty well. It worked for me, and although I’m deaf as a door post, I do respect old folk.
Isn’t the point that low level criminality or anti social behaviour, call it what you will, is not being dealt with? Police no blaming Councils and vice versa (sheesh!)
We have police speeding past in cars to whatever “incident” or flying like American troops in helicopters and no actual engagement (except Smelly like, hitting women protesters with sticks).
I notice that the police farce turned out PDQ for a letter from a crank saying nasty things about our immigrant friends.
Just goes to show exactly where their prorities are.
You mean things like eating Bogies in a public place, hurling office equipment at your staff or bullying in the workplace?
There’s a new Ipsos MORI poll – CON 36%, LAB 24%, LDEM 25%. Labour’s heading for third place and complete humiliation. Bye, Bye Gordon!
“bye bye Gordon” well just look at the combined poll numbers fot the libdems and newlabour, the temptation for a liblab coalition would be overwhelming for both parties wouldnt it?
If this happened then it would be hello Gordon(or one of his ghouls) in the role of either chancellor or PM depending who got the most seats, the electoral system is rigged in favour of labour, they can get the same percentage in votes but the system means they would get more seats.
The only hope of labour holding onto power is a fixed coalition and they would jump at the chance, the limdems are so desperate for power they would sell their grannies to the glue factory!
The MSM are trying to create a new reality, they are now experts at this poll game that tries to lead public and political opinion into a given direction, the people behind this poll are trying to create a liblab pact reality and the poll is an example, in fact the only poll that matters is the actual on the day.
All polls are not equal, polititians have long since learned how to lead and pervert public opinion using rigged polls.
Make no mistake IF this poll is correct there WILL be a liblab pact with Brown(or one of his ghouls) in a position of No 1 or No 2, and that is scary isnt it?
BTW the BBC are not known for their love of opinion polls are they?
Yet these polls that show the new reality of a liblab pact is being peddled like mad, why is that?
This poll is in reality a dog whistle to the left that defeat is not certain and that a pact between the leftist parties is still possible, they are preparing the proles for the idea.
Notice how the Tory lead has evaporated in this poll and the two lefist parties are now nearly even, it goes against the majority of previous polls doesnt it?
The population is being conditioned for a liblab pact, the supporters of the left are being given new hope that defeat can be avoided.
The libdems realise that their only hope of power is a liblab pact and labour knows their only hope of clinging onto any sort of power is a liblab pact, the temptation to peddle and advertise that reality by subterfuge is just too appealing to both sides to be rejected now.
We can expect a joint attack by the libdems and labour and even an early GE if their leading polls can exert an influence on the voters.
The golden rule is ‘who benefits’ and the political classes thrive on secret deals and backroom dealings, you can be sure that the groundwork has already been done signed sealed and waiting.
Are you on the same pills as Gordon or is it call me Dave’s ‘happy’ powder you are taking in industrial quanitities ?
On what planet is a 12 point winning margin an ‘evaporated’ lead ?
You pontificate about a ludicrous conspiracy theory involving the Media ‘conditioning’ the public for a LibLab pact on the basis of one poll that you don’t even have the common sense to understand.
Every Party will get a bump in the polls after conference due to much increased media airtime and attention. Even the greenest political reporter knows that much.
You also know nothing about Labour and the Lib Dems if you think temporary parity in the polls means they will bury the hatchet and try a pact. Blair thought about it. For all of 5 mins and fooled Ashdown into believing he was serious. Both Parties remember that vividly. There is visceral hatred between huge chunks of the Labour Party and the Lib dems that Clegg or Brown can’t wish away in some bizarre 12th hour pact.
If such a thing were to be contemplated by Labour it would only happen after a crushing Labour defeat and when that happened the Libs would be convinced they could become the official opposition so would hardly be very interested.
The only scenario where a LibLab pact would be almost certain would be if Labour lost it’s powerbase in Scotland completely like if Independence ever came to pass.
If that occured Labour would be a permanent minority party and would likely try a pact to combat this as pretending to be the Tory Party will always work far better if you are the Tory Party so Labour could never outflank the Conservatives to win the hearts and mind of the south.
The polls are meaningless without the methodology.
What was the question?
When was it asked?
How were the respondents selected?
Were all the respondents eligible voters?
Was there any self selection of respondents? (People eliminating themselves by disinterest, hostility, preoccupation etc.)
Was there any geographical element in respondent selection?
and so on.
I agree with Cassandra that there may be thoughts about pacts, but any formal pact would savage the Lib Dem vote which is based not on what the LIb Dems are, but on who they are not.
What part of the evidence do you not understand?
Newlabours only hope of clinging to power is a liblab pact.
The libdems only hope of power is a liblab pact.
IF and I mean IF! the left leaning electorate can be fooled into believing that both parties have a chance of getting a combined share of the vote that is greater than the Tories share it will reinvigorate them and mobilise them to go out and vote at the GE, the greatest danger for the two leftist parties is that their base will stay at home on the day because they feel voting is useless.
That is the key isnt it? the left need to mobilise their core vote and sympathetic vote, how do they create that reality?
Political POWER and the pursuit of political POWER, political parties are governed by the realities of democracy, if they can achieve political power by altering their moral code they will.
Politics has evolved from reacting to political reality to actually attempting to shape it to suit their primary interest and that is POLITICAL POWER.
Nothing else matters if they dont have political power, hence my assertion.
The scenario of a liblab pact makes perfect sense if it becomes in their interests to have that pact, if gaining shared power means they leave behind any previous political positions then they wil do just that quicker than you can write ‘there is no chance’.
I can fully understand that the thought of a liblab pact may be unthinkable to many loyal foot soldiers in each party, I can promise you that IF it promised political power to both then they would grasp that chance regardless.
BTW the hatred between Clegg and Brown would dissapear in an instant IF it was in their common interests for it to dissapear, the feelings of some in each party would be mollified at the prospect of joint power.
Please dont dismiss my assertions so quickly, the history of politics is littered with marriages of convenience between bitter enemies, just look at the CDU/SDP coalition.
Your ‘evidence’ is one poll moley was kind enough to say could be codswallop.
But a bump in polls for any Party after a conference is entirely routine.
You appear to be missing the obvious route to power of a hung parliament which the Liberals devoutly wish for every election.
A hung Parliament certainly won’t happen under Brown but other polls have been indicating that it is not so outre under a different Labour Leader. In fact they have even been saying anyone but Brown could result in such an outcome.
A possibility only but backed up by the existing political realities and not a radical sea change politics has not seen for decades. 1981 to be precise. A sea change brought about by Labours heavy defeat in 1979 and not the tenuous evidence of one poll without the slightest hint such a deal would ever be contemplated by the leaders of either Party.
Have you considered that the secret pact would only be enacted AFTER the election on the basis of MPs elected and share of the vote?
There is a possibility of a secret understanding that AFTER the general election IF both parties get a combined share of the vote greater than the Tories then a coalition regime would be created on the basis of vote share.
This is the key here, a prior pact is unlikely BUT do you think the two parties have not considered the outcome of both parties getting a share that when combined would mean they have a majority to form a coalition government.
In this scenario a common attack policy against the Tories would bear fruit, look at both parties and look how similar they are when compared to the Tory positions.
I am highlighting a possibility here based on history and the evidence, it makes sense that two leftist parties would find more common ground to form a post election coalition.
Interesting the Clegg has just started attacking the Tories really which sort of gives credence to a pact.
However maybe seeing this poll they sniff potential opposition and placing Labour in the corner instead of them. Which way to go will be on Cleggs mind and I suspect if these type of polls hold up then he will go for opposition leader first while blaming Labour for the problems and let the Tories clean it all up ready for 2015.
This time would not be a good time for a pact such that the Lib dummies get partly smeared with the last 12 years and they will not want that.
Just a thought.
I’d like someone to put up or shut up. Even the bloke who started this rumour said it was based on what someone said about Brown’s diet. I can’t stand Brown, but this sort of thing – to this degree – makes us a little bit like them.
Even after all of these years they still cannot prove that Anthony Eden was on amphetamines and barbiturates because, naturally, this information was heavily supressed at the time. Did it affect his decision making?
His decision to send in troops to Suez was considered a serious mistake and one wonders if he would have made the same decision were his mind not clouded by narcotics.
Of course in those days there was no right-wing extremist blogosphere so it was quite easy to keep the public in the dark.
As Labour seek by all means to retain power they are not going to allow little matters like truth, the nation’s well-being or indeed Brown’s health get in the way of that goal.
The man is plainly not well and is quite possibly on some form of medication. Guido did not invent this rumour – millions of people are questioning this as they see his performances on TV or Youtube. You can pretend it isn’t happening or start ferreting around. The latter is what journalists used to do before NuLiebore arrived.
I know Guido didn’t invent (or start) the rumour. I have no time for Brown. I don’t want Labour to stay in – or any other ‘party’ in. Obviously someone’s mental health is relevant to their judgement. All I’m saying is I’d like to be basing all this on a bit more than a comment in a bar (as I understand it) about Brown’s diet – and so far that’s the only ‘proof’ (apart from that in the pudding) I’ve heard about. Unless I’ve missed something.
That’s a crude, childish, vindictive and simplistic video – spot on.
It’s all well and good for you fellers to say it’s beneath Guido, beneath us – but there are millions out there – 2fucking4% FFS – who would *still* vote for these vermin. Rational, well-argued, precise points are not enough. We *know* being right isn’t enough – everything Gordon has touched has turned to shit, we’re trillions in schtuck, the country is on the road to hating itself, being at war with itself, as well as being at war with other nations we have *no fight* with – and yet 24% still back them. Now, maybe 20% would back them no matter what, ‘cus their fucking grandfather did or some other subhuman idiocy, or simply because they are *paid* to back them, but even winning over another 4% could make the difference between a labour loss, and a labour destruction. And destruction is what we want. I want to see labour supporters vomiting in horror on election night. I want to see incomprehending fear.
So, crude and offensive videos? Stick with it. A simple, direct, vicious message.
Whatever is necessary.
Totally agree Frank ..
After all Liebore are past masters of vicious messages .. they understand the concept very well ..
I also agree that anything which will undermine & rid us of Liebore once and for all can only be good ..
(I do however draw the line at voting for or supporting the LiberalDumboPrats in any way, shape or form) .. Lol
Everything he has touched has turned to shit?
I am no Broon apologist, but he wans’t left a very clear desk by Saint Tone, now was he?
Make a Horlicks and skip away – good name for tune.
I want to see labour supporters vomiting in horror on election night.
That would suit me too. Total annihilation. It is the only acceptable result.
Doesn’t work for me. One of my grandfathers was a miner, and the other was a printer on the News of the Screws. I’ve never voted Labour in my life.
Proof would be nice.
There is no proof of anything, ever. Not one of us can prove we’re not dreaming. Descartes thought he could, but had to fake up a faked god in order to do it.
Hey, maybe Broon is his malevolent demon…
That’s thoughtful, and I agree.
Perhaps it might be best for No 10 to issue a clear denial that Brown is taking medication for depression, then we can all move on. The trouble is, if they don’t, the rumour keeps rumbling around; there are always some who tend to make things excessively distasteful, and the clip at the top of this thread gets very close to that.
I suspect that with this government’s track record, if he wasn’t taking the happy pills they would have denied it ages ago, and run round trying to get injunctions or having people’s offices searched, and if he was they would still deny it if they thought they could get away with it, but as they haven’t I am convinced he is taking the tablets as prescribed.
Also note the way the trolls here have been trying to build up a distinction between prescription medicine and the smokes and snorts Dave is alleged to have indulged in as a youth. They wouldn’t do that if it was all a lie. So in that case the video is not in bad taste at all, almost factual.
The challenge is to maintain a sense of decency and decorum in the face of the type of attacks on this site which are revolting and despicable. (I refer to DC’s family).
The crude and offensive anti English comments from the Scots are met with crude and offensive anti Scots comments from the English.
Better to lose your life than your soul.
You are right, Moley. It is disrespectful to Richard Ashcroft’s late father to use the song in this way.
Bloody awful song, but I laffed!
‘By any means neccesary’ springs to mind!
If these fuckwits win again you had better all run for your lives!
Ireland’s so called ‘leadership’ was to guarantee all bank assets to 100% of value (regardless of whether the government had enough reserves to cover depositer’s money) – this caused a catastrophic domino effect in Europe, with every state, with one exception of one having to copy the 100% guarantee.
Brown’s so called ‘leadership’ was to do an “Ireland’ on North America.
When Obama said he was unwilling to sink US taxpayers hard cash to recapitlize the US banks, sneaky Brown went back sank GB taxpayers cash to do just that. America found itself in an impossible position of competitive disadvantage; so had to follow suit – reluctantly.
So there we have it! Ireland – the saviour of the world – by Lord Mandy’s lsd logic at least.
lsd? Are you just showing your age?
to Gordon and New Labour
FUCK OFF
To ‘em all. I say.
Brown has got fat, first leaching off the poor congregation of the church when he was a child and now the taxpayer, the fucking arse think we should all put food on his table whilst he contemplates how to distribute our money.
Bowon must be bewildered. How did it all go wrong? How did it come to this? Don’t the fools know everytihng I do is for their benefit?
Brown the fucking idiot gave the chancellor a Breville Breadmaker for Christmas thinking it would help reduce the fiscal deficit
Wha?
Gordon’s medicine fuelled daydreams:
Picture yourself in a boat on a river,
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly,
Mandelson with kaleidoscope eyes.
Cellophane flowers of yellow and green,
Towering over your head.
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes,
And she’s gone.
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Ahh…
Follow her down to a bridge by a fountain
Where rocking horse people eat marshmellow pies,
Everyone smiles as you drift past the flowers,
That grow so incredibly high.
Newspaper taxis appear on the shore,
Waiting to take you away.
Climb in the back with your head in the clouds,
And you’re gone.
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Ahh…
Picture yourself on a train in a station,
With plasticine porters with looking glass ties,
Suddenly someone is there at the turnstyle,
Mandelson with the kaleidoscope eyes.
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Mandy in the sky with diamonds
Ahh…
That’s where he’d like to be, when in fact, he’s on the ground with pig shit.
Gordon’s speech of his lifetime today – let’s hope that speechwriter of his does a better job that she usually does. This is his chance to turn the polls around and put labour in the lead.
Sadly I think we can expect more of the same ‘ I’m getting on with the job’ etc – rousing stuff!
Repeat, Repeat, Repeat, double speak, double speak, double speak, same old, same old, same old, blame someone else, blame someone else, blame someone else! This is a discredited government in power 12 years+ and still talking as if they had nothing to do with the issues we face today….shameless.
Spot on. Brown is going to talk about anti-social behaviour, presumably as a knee jerk attempt to deflect the appalling story of a woman and her daughter hounded to death by yobs because New Labour’s police did nothing. Too busy arresting people for what they have said and concentrating on diversity targets and other leftist shite to perform the duties they were brought into existence for.
The police have been putting all their efforts into targetting the motorists for some years now. It’s easy money for the government and doesn’t take up too much manpower.
Shadowing thugs would cost too much money.
And require intelligance
It’s not about man power, it’s about direction and management. If youv’e got watch commanders more concerned about ticking boxes given to them by politicians what do you expact. We need a more independant police and juduicary, not automatons.
Nearly New Labour, say anything but do nothing, and they are in power, unlike the baby eating tories
Whenever I’ve witnessed a crime or reported one, I now feel inhibited in what I can say to the police.
There’ve been garden equipment burglaries around here for years which usually happen in the spring/early summer, the police know they’re just the area’s pikeys replacing last year’s equipment so they can get a summer’s worth of gardening/landscaping work. When our neighbour was burgled, they actually used our drive to turn their trailer around, I asked whether it was the pikeys again — and the policeman stopped me saying, “You musn’t start making racist comments of that sort”.
She could write a speech fit for Churchill at the beginning of the war. Problem is, Brown is incapable of rousing anything, even Mandelson’s dick.
Actions speak louder than words.
In Labour’s case, their actions over the last 12 years speak far louder than any words which might make their way past Brown’s lips.
Whatever he says, we absolutely know what labour will give us if they are re-elected, we’ve already seen it.
Trouble is, we lurch from right to left every 5 to 7 years or so and get blood nowhere, no worse, we go backwards.
LOL, “we” do no such thing. All three main parties, are virtually identical.
In this country we are governed by a system of consensual acquiescence, which differs only in matters of application between all three parties.
In America they call this illusion of democracy, the two headed one party system, in short, whoever you vote for in the corrupted and heavily lobby dependant system, you always get the same outcome because in reality the choices offered, are a deception.
The choices are “progressive” parties= Fast track to socialist / fascist / corporatist “utopia” or so called “right wing” though that label is utter horseshit, less “progressive” parties = slow track to said “utopia”.
NONE even contemplate that the road we are on is leading to the most awful destination, instead they all vie with each other as to the best methods of arrival.
Progressive “tories” under CMD offer only superficial alternatives, to ZaNuLabour, or halfwit Cleggs LibDims, while the EU, our real government, steal our liberty one law at a time, the response from all three parties is either, enthusiastic embrace, ecstatic acceptance or grumbling agreement.
Want a different outcome when you vote?
Then stop voting for parties that do not offer real alternatives, instead of just more of the same, just a little better, than the other lot, vote for real freedom and real democracy.
I’m extremely hopeful that Carswell/Hannon’s The Plan will feature large in Cameron’s speech. Democratic unaccountability is at the core of all our problems.
I sort of agree.
On finer points of detail the lurch is pretty pronounced. Take youth justice – something I know about, one minute it’s put ‘em all in quasi prison, then let’s be nicey nicey, then prison works, then it doesn’t. You get pretty pissed off to be honest, fuckwits not knowing what they are talking about buying a few more votes – meantime, cities are no go areas after 9.00 pm society breaking down – good families subsumes by a tide of shittiness. Crap police, no effect of prisons & Youth Custody Centres chuck ‘em out and they come back within days.
Do I sound a bit negative?
Or Brown, even!
Any chance one eye might take an overdose?
One can only live in hope ..
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IS IT JUST ME BECAUSE EVERY TIME I SEE THE OILY MANDY OF RIO ON THE
THE TV I FEEL THE URGENT NEED TO TAKE A SHOWER
It’s probably just your repressed homosexuality rising to the surface.
You’ve just saved me £500 with my anal yst
I’m going to vomit.
Toady puff piece about Brown’s strengths being hidden by the “hurley burley of office”, interview with Kinnock.
This isn’t news, it’s marketing.
I look at these guys and say, should our political system, in the UK and linked with europe, result in the creation of millionaires, I for one think not. Mandy on the stgae yesterday, kinnock on the TV and radio, they make want to throw up, cushioned by wealth, paid from the taxes of the massess, it stinks.
Kinnock said that ‘the people want a strong leader with vision and strong sense of purpose’ Well yes but we dont want Brown as that leader, every poll shows Brown to be less popular than the Yorkshire ripper and people want him gone!
Its a bit rich for that gravytrain riding parasite to pontificate about what the electorate want isnt it? People hated Kinnock and the evidence strongly suggests that Brown is even less popular than Kinnock, then again the parasite classes have no sense of shame do they?
The Kinnock clan are now multi millionaires wholly on the backs of the people they claim to represent, Kinnock represents Kinnock only.
What about a parasite tax of 80% on the global income (including expenses and allowances, minus properly receipted and approved actual expenses)and capital gains for all recipients of money from the Government (UK or EU) above £100K – retrospective for the last 10 years, and for 10 years after leaving the taxpayer funded payroll?
If the Governement can change the rules at the drop of the hat to make it legal for Scotland to claim the £170,000 allowances – completely contradicting everything they had previously said on the matter, I don’t see why we can’t retrospectively tax the parasite class until the pips squeak.
If Gordon thinks that focussing on antisocial behaviour and crime is going to do anything for his or his party’s chances, then he really should be on the pills.
This Government has plundered our national and personal finances for personal gain. Can they really not understand the obscenity of Ed Balls spending £3m+ on an office complex when schools, swimming pools, day care centres etc are being closed down to save a fraction of the cost.
Blair is a multi-million pound tax exile, built on the documented abuse of the expenses system – taking out a mortgage of £30k to buy his house, then increasing it to £90K for “improvements” and finally increasing it to £296K just before he bought his £3.6K house in London. He has subsequently earned £15m in fees.
I feel ill.
If those lovely merchant bankers are so bloody good, why cant they be given a fiver and some magic beans and make (ie replace) our fortune.
It would only take ‘em a year to put or asses back on velvet.
Now where’s Tarquin?
I can’t see bringing Kinnock out for an interview can do any good at all.It reeks of total fear and desperation.It reinforces their only remaining policy-”the opposition are even worse than us”.It did not work for Major in 1997 and has even less chance of working for Brown now.
Nice to see that time hasn’t cured his windbaggery.
The thing is it was true back in 1997.
I want Brown to go but this video was a bit low.
Show a bit more class GF
Phuck off Mandy !
Are you new here?
1) I can’t stand the man and what he has done to my country
2) I can’t wait until his impending defeat
3) I am concerned that a man with possibly mental problems may be in charge of my country
but
agreed with above.. this one was below the belt. If he is ill then he needs to be removed quietly and treated. Mental illness is a serious issue…..
cutting the crap…. you just “punched” a disabled person…….
If Brown deserves pity and protection for being disabled he is not fit to be Prime Minister and should be removed forthwith.
We can pity him and sympathise with him as a human being once he is no longer in control of OUR lives.
That he needs to be removed is not in question…
But ultimatly we are British and (at least at one time) we would have handled this matter quietly and efficiently and with dignity. You do not wash your dirty laundry in public, especially on the world stage.
Gordon Brown (or his carer’s) need to do the right thing, and remove him from office for the well being of the nation as a whole. He then needs to be treated, and treated with the care that an ill person deserves to recieve.
Oh – and how many has the Great Commissar disabled ?
Supposing the alleged disabled person had killed 218 people with his actions. Would you feel like punching him?
Trouble is, there are many of all persuasions (Con, Lab and Lib Dem and many many others – that Farrage for one and the BNP and.. sorry I am boring you) I would like to smack, smack very hard to be honest.
How about a non popularity contest? Gordo might win it now, but I bet there are other favourites.
Quite. Why is Brown deserving of the nation’s sympathy when there are lads on £16K pa getting their arses shot off in Helmand?
He and all his other cronies just want to keep their jobs. If he wants “respect” then he might just get some if he resigns with a humble apology for the state of the nation. Don’t hold yer breath though.
If “he’s ill” then he should GO! Regardless of any PC crap we do not want a mentally ill person “running” the country. Those around him should remove him.
And if he’s not a pill-popping loon then this video does no harm, does it?
Mental illness is a burden not a privialge.
And your point is what?
If Hitler was disabled, I would have punched him.
Pol Pot – him too, no problem decking him.
Osama Bin Laden – kidneys are fucked – but I would definately give him a swift kicking.
I believe that if a member of the public could get close enough to land a good right hook on McStalins nose it may just shatter the cocoon of yes men that surrounds him.
Well said Fred ..
We might have worn different coloured Berets (mine being Green) .. but I’m with you all the way Mate ..
I totally deny that the speech I made yesterday to conference was as a direct result of any mind altering drugs I took after breakfast.
But m’lady, they ALL loved you, loved you to death.
You are the brightest star in the evening desert sky.
Not funny & amateur – sorry Guido – a FAIL here, I think.
Has Brown just bottled his planned October election?
Up till 11pm it was all over BBC that Brown. in his conference spech, will challenge David Cameron to a series of tv debates, starting before the election. Then Sky report that El Presidente has changed the focus of his spechbto policy, buy it comes out that one of Browns many conditions to the debates was that the first head-to-head with Cameron only happens the day after tomorrow. Let’s see, so Brown says well, l’ll be generous and give up the last afternoon of my conference for this debate. I just happen to have a venue, your tv crews are here, and I even happen to have a local Brighton audience that we had the foresight to invite a couple of weeks ago. All seems very planned. Part of the Snap Election Grid, to scupper Cameron before his conference?
What changed? Odd how Gordons plans changed just after the publication of the poll showing Labour in 3rd place
The Bottler done it again?
Cameron will of course be preparing for the Conservative conference so it is a blatantly unreasonable precondition which can only be rejected; (as Brown knows).
Yes but Brown holds our intelligence in such contempt that he thinks we wont realise this and merely conclude that Cameron is a bottler.
Sky have reported that the debate will probably take place, but the format will be tweaked according to what Gordon wants to talk about.
ISo it won’t be a free speech debate, it will be scripted.
If they are going to have an open debate they should publish the preconditions on both sides.
Otherwise it’s a farce.
Nothing to stop the Conservatives from publishing Labour’s preconditions, (and vice versa).
If true S_O ten Dave and the other chap could withdraw very publicly citing Browns preconditions, a good PR could do brown even more danage
If some speakers at conference are te future of Labour, things could get so much worse. The standards of personal hygene and grooming are very poor. Loads of empty seats again!
Listening to Postman Pat on Sky, he must be on reality changing drugs as well
he just holds out the tin mug for me.
That’s all.
Move on.
Whilst this video may have been a jibe at some of the PM’s shortcomings, I wonder if Guido considered the ‘Jonah effect’ on the band singing the accompanying song. Any day now, wait for news of their grizly demise in some horrible accident…
I wonder if he considered the possibility of them suing him…
Has anyone asked Darling to whom, exactly, he was referring to in the Labour leadership with his “lost the will to live” comment? Some names here might help understand what is going on. Who will ask him?
Since Brown avoided answering the direct question from Marr (albeit Marr miscued it), and is asking us all to allow him to keep the top job until the very last moment that he has to hold an election, it seems to me perfectly reasonable to speculate about this subject. Brown has form for misleading and spinning, and so holding off direct and important questions relating to his perosnality and attributes will not do the country any favours. In the short-term the only beneficiaries are Brown himself, and in some ways, the Labour Party. Nice sense of priorities there then!
Pretty poor Guido and not worthy of this site.
It strikes me that – true to form – the spinning is reaching fever-pitch before McHoon’s latest “make or break” address to the few of the faithful who can be bothered to listen.
I’m not sure if the Marr question was a plant or a belated realisation by someone in AlJaBeeba that a new Tory of administration isn’t exactly going to be Beeb friendly after the last 12 years of Pravda-esque activity on behalf of ZaNu.
Either way, it’s all just noise.
What bothers me is that the scorched-earth effort is still in full swing. Lisbon ? Legislate to reduce the debt ? Whatever happened to “no parliament shall be bound by its predecessor or bind its successor” ?
He will DIE on his feet today !
Lets hope the one-eyed, bong-eyed bastard has a stroke !
100-1 stroke
500-1 fifty calibre to the head
300-1 fifty calibre to the chest
250-1 unspecified firearms attack
200-1 grenade/IED
150-1 stabbed by irate pensioner
1000-1 eaten by lizard overlords
get yer money down folks…
Bingo please Guido
I’ll have a tenner on your 1000-1 shot, Frank! “Them’s” good odds mate…
I expect Labour’s lackeys are frantically running around Brighton’s council offices and other government buildings, in order to round up people to fill the conference hall for Gordon’s speech.
I hope they all have better things to do.
Most of them are so fucking fat they won’t need that many.
And the Sally Army shelters .. the Bail Hostels and Half-way Houses ..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1216791/What-Gordon-Brown-got-12-years-power.html
Interesting piece about gordon’s ‘achievements’ over the lasy 12 years in the Mail today.
Let’s see 12 years ago he promised to be ‘the guardian of the people’s money’
He knocked £100 billion off the value of British Pensions.
And there are now, under this government, 8million economically inactive people in Britain.
And Polly Twaddle is wittering on in her newspaper column about seeing labour’s prosperity all around us.
So much for ‘It Can Only Get Better’
Polly Twaddle can see lanour’s prosperity all around her (soft furnsihings, second home in Italy, nice carpets, restaurant bills etc). The rest of us just see reality (national debt, unemployment, social beak-down, rubbish education system, corruption in parliament etc etc etc)
Crappest opening yet Gui. You can do better than this.
Just watch the post count.
T’would have been more though. I nearly just buggered off.
One thing not really discussed about Marr’s interview, is that Gordon was quite clearly aware about all the talk about him taking strong anti depressants. He was not in the least surprised about the content of the question, only the question itself.
Will his aids have briefed him on the chatter or deoes Goron log on and read it for himself. As his missus tweets like a canary I suspect the latter. Hi Gordon have a nice day.
GUIDO !
Please run a piece to allow us to vote for Labour’s crimes against the public.
The only problem I see will be is 100 enough !
Did anyone else hear multi millionaire Welsh windbag Lord Kinnock of Nepatism on Pravda Toady this morning?
It was just a monologue – the BBC Pravda reporter just sitting there doe eyed allowing him to prattle on & on.
I believed it was “Thought For The Day” such was the uninterrupted delivery.
Kinnock may have some credibility in the village, but in the country at large he’s a nobody.
Few will have looked up from buttering the toast as his name was announced.
and a fair few would have stabbed the toast and butter at the very mention of his name
And, he was sweating!
And then thought for the day was a piece on how God voted labour…
The BBC has been uninterrupted labour-rimming for 24 hours now.
Frank,
I forgot about that bit – that bloke was 100% New Labour God Squad.
I almost expected a reference to voting for anyone but Labour was akin to devil worship.
24 hours? 16 years at least
I feel sorry for Glenys. The rest of us can switch him off.
I don’t .. she’s a bad as him when it comes to parasitic behaviour ..
They richly deserve one another ..
Sir William – I am sure the odious Baroness Glenys (now entroughed in the House of Lords for life at our expense) feels that her lifetime sinecure and her share of the several millions that the Kinnochio clan have already salted away for themselves courtesy of the taxpayers of this country goes some way to compensating her for putting up with the Windbag.
Kinnock told us all that in private the ‘real’ Gordon is a really, really nice person who has let the cares and stress of office affect his public persona.
Yeah, right.
What about the tantrums, the ‘hairdryer’ rants, the phone and printer tossing, the smears of McBride and terrorising of all rivals, etc ?
It would be great if the British public could see the real Gordon. Perhaps then a few more would realise that he is a dysfunctional psychopathic weirdo.
you been on the pop again paddy? Jesus, that was embarrassingly bad.
Please Gordon – go stick your head up a rotting dead dogs bum.
Poor dog
Pravda today frantically pumping out their Zanu-approved script for the day, how Snotty will save us all from the feral thugs that, er, his government has created….
The “law abiding majority” – not including most of his government then.
It was only a technical breach
From Bournemouth to Brighton, the conference season rolls on. This week, the Labour Party meets for its annual conference. I expect Gordon Brown’s speech will be stuffed full of statistics about how he’s saving the world. But here are the facts which really matter in Britain today.
This country is in the worst mess it’s been in for a generation. Unemployment is rising and youth unemployment is at its highest level since records began. Violent crime has increased by 70 per cent under Labour and there are more than 100 serious knife crimes every day. The poor are getting poorer, social mobility has stalled, and four in ten children are leaving primary school unable to read, write and add up properly.
And while all this is happening, the Government is borrowing money at a rate of around £6,000 EVERY SECOND. That’s something to think about when Gordon Brown delivers his speech. Last year, Gordon’s conference speech lasted 58 minutes. If he speaks for as long this year, we’ll have wracked up about another £20 million of debt in the same time.
These are the facts and this is the record of twelve years of spin, irresponsibility and top-down state control. And increasingly, it’s clear: if you want to see a real long-term plan for change in this country, and a Party with the guts and the determination to see this crisis through, you’ll have to wait for our conference in Manchester in a week’s time.
look dave you aint the fucking meesiah
Don’t tell him that, it’ll set him off again. Back to the little room now Dave.
Well let’s hope next week”s conference tells the people of this country what they need to hear, how issues like law and order will be tackled with firmness, not by hugging hoodies.
People are sick to death with diversity initiatives, handwringing Pee Cee idiots whose only concern is the welfare of the criminals, not the victims.
And, on the economy: we have approx SIX MILLION people either not working, on long term sick leave, disability pay, economicaly inactive, whatever….and yet we’re being told that we have to have mass immigration because there are not enough people to fill job vacancies! It’s this kind of obfuscation and spin that people are pig sick of….I wonder if this will be dealt with next week….?
You won’t be getting your conference next week Dave. Labour are gearing up for an election starting as soon as Gordon finishes delivering his speech. Basically they’ll have had a one week free campaigning, wipe your weeks conference (and committed hire of facilities out completely, totally wrong-foot you, camapign for a couple o fweeks at which point the ONS will declare the recession ‘over’.
Gordon will claim the credit. And credit is the key word there.
This is Labour’s only hope.
And I’m betting they’ll take it.
When I said ‘betting’ I meant that any rational person would recognise this as the best chance they’re going to get. Especially now they’ve teed up Dave for his drug questions next week. Poor, one-eyed, dishevelled, weight of the world on his shoulders Brown ‘v’ slick drugged-up toff.
You can see the imagery and the pieces falling in to place as I type. Seriously. Recession might be called over but even if not then as long as the figures are better than the 0.6% fall for Q2 then Labour will claim we’re coming out of recession.
Deny Dave his conference ‘bounce’ and free weeks publicity.
It’s the only rational thing to do if your sole goal is to maintain power.
In regards to the all important Lisbon vote for the Irish hat tip to on PB.com for these links.
It seems the EU are trying to force their message across by paying papers to show it. Definetly against the rules and the ‘No’ camp are already crying foul and rightly so.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gLGFa3CNf9wLBB_w8TJs7NvX-LEg
Funding allegations Dominate Debate — Irish Times
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0929/1224255444261.html
TO ALL IRISH OUT THERE PLEASE VOTE NO!!!!! TO LISBON
thanks you
if they vote no they will have to vote again and again and again till they vote the right way
The Irish are being bribed/blackmailed by the EU…the clear message is….oh look….we’re pouring loads more money into your country….you vote no…we turn off the taps.
Vote no anyway…..stuff ‘em.
And the pro EU leftist international marxists criticised President Bush for using “The Politics of Fear”.
The cabal of leftists use fear to sell their doctrine all the time – the EU, Climate Change & a myriad of other politically motivated nonsense that they cannot win the argument on.
So they use fear. Everytime.
aint the cezhs delying as well ?
“Europe will be plunged into crisis” = suits in Brussels and Strasbourg will have to cut their lunch break to an hour and a half.
Now there’s a big possible saving. Tell them to sort out their expenses before we pay them our subs. Is there a nice moley person willing to blow the gaff a la Telegraph? The picnics over boys and girls.
Somebody mention my name?
Pravda were at it doing their bit earlier – carefully selected voxpops about “now we’re in recession, Lisbon looks like the only way forward”.
Nothing short of propaganda for the EUSSR.
Rise up people of Ireland and say NO to the fascist baby murdering beaurocrats of the EUSSR
I see that the UK’s payment (tax) to the EU will increase from £4+bn to £6+bn next year.
Why do all politicians think that they can spend my money better than me?
Snotgobbler gave up our rebate…..and got absolutely ZERO in return….another fine mess etc… (see selling off our gold at rock bottom prices)
sod gordons speech , England are on a roll and they might win (unlike gordon )
Might win what?
3rd game off ICC trophy
Whoop-de-do.
That really is important – isn’t it.
better than listening to gordon the great
It might be 1 or 2 % on the vote – and just enough if they win.
Now, see, I am more of your football man – they could win that too.
There is yet another cartoon about Brown and Dignitas in the Times. I know it’s difficult to think of new jokes but these boys and girls are professionals. There is a quality about Brown that sucks the life out of one, like Harry Potter’s Dementors, that may be partly to blame. How can one be witty about somebody so lumpish and depressing?
That JK Rowling might know more than she lets on you know. Who is Malfoy Jnr?
Lame
Is that pronounced “Larmae” Lord Fondelbum of Boys?
(I can’t do accents on this keyboard BEFORE you say anything)
fuck it we dont want superman to run the country and they dont need to comment of every fucking bit of news , i just want them to run the country the best they can , also the goverment is not the only answer to any crisis sometimes its not the goverments fault but our own , saying that it does show how goverment has grown into so many parts of our lives
i dont want flash or spin just spend our money carefully and dont treat us like hoons
They’ve already unwisely spent all of our money. The IMF bailiffs are ready to move in.
@253 you have hit the nail. We need less Govt. Less interference in normal people’s lives. No ego-mentalists and world statesmen, and nobel peace prizers. Leave us alone, FFS.
That’s where he’s wrong. It hasn’t always been a shit country.
Over the years, our laws have loosened and we are far more lenient with our criminals than we used to be. So much so, that they now have more rights than their victims.
Schoolchildren can abuse their teachers, and their peers, even by text and nothing is done about it.
Our pensioners are physically abused in their care homes, and nothing is done about it.
We are taxed to oblivion, spied on wherever we go, and our police, instead of catching the real criminals, are directed instead to hammer the motorists for every last farthing they can. We can’t even fill our dustbins without carefully analysing the contents first.
I don’t want to start harping on about the good old days, but seriously, we all knew exactly where we stood, and if anyone broke the law, they were punished accordingly.
End of rant.
Bring back hard labour… the only sort of labour I’m in favour of.
Perhaps we should ask Gordon about the behaviour of these goons who were allegedly protecting his kind, the “g20″, from kids in T shirts….
One has to ask the question: are these goons also ‘on something’??
Nice picture of Randy Marr. Caption contest?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23750002-mps-may-boycott-marr-over-pills-interview-with-pm.do
Who is that tosser talking to (berating?) Marr?
You should have asked the final question!
If Brown stays for the election we know that Labour expect to lose it whatever they say.
The public would not vote a party into office with an unknown leader, and after the election, nobody knows who will be Labour leader.
Harman?
Mandelson?
Johnson?
Miliwatts?
Purnell?
Beckett?
What sort of an election strategy is that?
Will there even be a Labour party left to lead?
I hope not.
The next Labour Leader could be none of the above, consider the number of Labour MPs who have decided to step down on grounds of ill health, over generous expense claims etc. Consider the scale of the debarcle which Brown is unleashing on Labour. Who will be left to represent them? Harman may have a very safe seat, but would she really be able to gather enough support from the remnants of NuLabour?
Got this image in my head of Gordo in the bath, off his tits on Mescaline, waving around a Gerber Mini Magnum while begging Mandy to hurl the radio at him when it reaches the crescendo of White Rabbit.
Do it Mandy!
Do it now!
You can’t plot here – this is twat country! As your Attorny General I advise you to claim for Tongan golf shoes.
‘e’
too much free time
Me thinks that black cloud is about to burst later.
Did any one see Polly T and muckguire on newsnight last night? Paxman was actually chatting to them as if he hadn’t a care in the world! He was probably a bit tipsy.
Muckguire smiled inanely as per usual, that smile that likes to tell us he’s really in the know – when we know he isn’t.
Polly, in the pink with round amber balls round her neck, spelt out doom and disaster for newlabour, but the kev was sure everything was going to be alright on the night. Fat chance!.
Paxo gave them such a pleasant easy ride, not hard questions, no questions at all really, just sat there grinning on his red velour seat, showing off his newly straightened whitened set of gnashers.
Pravda’s idea of balance.
Polly and Muck are part of the Beeb furniture. What they say is gospel, never to be challenged.
Is it still rumoured that someone big will resign a la Flint just to spoil Brown’s speech?
What time is this supposed to happen?
Just as Brown gets up to speak to a half filled hall might be a good time.
Any truth in the rumour the teflon one, liar Bliar will be hosting Mcsnots speech.
I’m not sure that Snotty would appreciate the rapturous hysteria that would greet Blair as delegates reflected on how popular their party once was, and what it is like now under the morose bogey-eating one.
That hall will be loaded to the gunwales, with local party activists, public sector workers, anyone who can be cajoled into cheering, and generaly giving AlBeeb the excuse to show lots of cheering faces and proclaim the usual nonsense about a ten minute standing ovation….watch out for carefuly chosen shots of people like Neil Pillock clapping away like his euro pensions depended on it…
Sounds like one of those hundred’s of Michael Macintyre alleged comedy shows on BBC3 where they have seem to use canned laughter and cutaways to members of the audience in various stages of hysteria and apoplecy
Play Broon`s Bullshit Bingo today!
Simply choose 5 of these well-loved phrases and as soon as you fill your card shout Bullshit!
(Winners should note that they may be manhandled by heavies and charged with terrorist offences.)
* Hard Working Families
* Global Solutions
* Walk By On The Other Side
* Do Nothing Tories
* The Right Thing To Do
* Obama And I
* World Leaders
* Labour Investment
*Tory Cuts
* Getting On With The Job
* Our Mission In Afghanistan
* Economic Challenge
* The Party Of Change
* International Financial Crisis
* Greedy Bankers
You missed out the following:
* British Jobs for British Workers (oh sorry, that one is no longer allowed).
* When I lost my eye
* We need experience
* Efficiency savings whilst maintaining in investment in frontline services
* Five year plan
* Tractor statistics
* Election cancelled – new Gulag to be built………
* Where are my pills?
A rather nasty video, which reminds me, if anything of school playground bullying rather than anything interesting like political debate or satire.
Regarding the Brown ‘pills’ rumour, I seem to remember that Guido was as active and outraged critic of Damian McBride and his plans for the Red Rag website. Stange that this correct stance seems to weaken when the target of lies and rumours is the Prime Minister.
What utter childish bollocks!
Why don’t you Tory twats grow up?
Whether the rumours are true or not, it’s disappointing that you published this very poor video, Guido. It has no merit at all in itself, but it has attracted a whole heap of comments ….. was that the reason for publishing?
Can do better.