September 28th, 2009

Why Hasn’t Clegg Congratulated Guido?

Cameron was quick to offer fraternal congratulations to Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats.  So far no word from Clegg, the Free Democrats are their sister party and sit with the LibDems in the European Parliament.

The German FDP have had their best showing in decades on a pro-business, tax-cutting manifesto which has driven the Social Democrats out of the government. Most LibDems seem disinterested, only LiberalVision is ecstatic. Makes you wonder if they prefer permanent opposition…


143 Comments

  1. 1
    Nick says:

    Congratulations Angela.

  2. 3
    One flew over the German Chancellory says:

    Yes quite so Ms Merkel

    • 29
      Die eiserne Kanzelerin says:

      FRAU Merkel to you sonny. It’s not like Great Britain. The German Chancellor commands repsect. None of this sissy, poofy pc ‘Ms’ nonsense here mate!

  3. 4
    ­Phil O'Pastree says:

    Which of those two is Clegg?

    • 12
      ­cynic says:

      The one who looks like a young Blair.

      • 28
        TROMBONE says:

        clegg is irrevelevant

        but osborne is a useless fuck and will be in government

        CUT TAXES NOW

        • 56
          Fuck 'em All says:

          Will he? I would suggest many will be voting for none of the main three.

        • 93
          Anonymous says:

          Taxes are going up after the election whoever gets in
          FACT

          • Anon says:

            Anonymous says:
            September 28, 2009 at 10:23 pm

            Taxes are going up after the election whoever gets in
            FACT

            Anyone who puts fact at the end of a post deserves a good kicking. Taxes will have to go up. It’s not just about taxes though is it? It’s about what sort of country you want to live in and whether you have confidence in those who are in charge.

            The current showers of shite deserve our contempt and rejection.

            Vote B&P.

          • ­Phil O'Pastree says:

            Paradoxically tax revenue can be increased by lowering tax rates as Maggie proved. If you let people keep a bigger share of what they earn they are inclined to work longer and harder.

            Vote B­NP. FUCT, if I will.

          • Anonymous says:

            Fuck off Nazi scum
            You’re pathetic threats won’t work here
            Go and watch your homoerotic skinhead porn you fucking neanderthal

          • Anon says:

            Hey, swear boy. Big words. Who is threatening whom?

      • 44
        DelBoy says:

        Those were the days. We still had a chance then.

  4. 5
    Dack Blog says:

    Are they auditioning for ‘Fingerbobs’?

  5. 6
    chronic says:

    Envy

  6. 7
    Anonymous says:

    disinterested means something different

    you mean uninterested

    but why would you care…….

    • 14
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      Something completely different…

      • 133
        Watch the Skies! says:

        Disinterested = not giving a fock either way (neutral as to outcome)

        Uninterested = not interested enough to even give a feck either way (watching the other channel with the volume turned up loud)

  7. 8
    A concened parishioner says:

    Lord Mandleson of Boy delivered a great speech, great intonation and control. But, much like listening to the Welsh Wind-bag on Radio 5 he was talking Shite!

  8. 9
    Engineer says:

    The two thumbnail pictures are interesting. By the look of the left-hand one, Call-Me-Dave is getting to grips with economics. Cleggover looks as if he is addressing a lady with a pram, “Me! I’ve never seen you before!”

  9. 10
    Dame Mandy of the Heath and Boy says:

    Anybody up for a bit of underdogging?

  10. 11
    One flew over the No 10 Bunker says:

    Latest quote of the day:

    why doesn’t Charles Clarke just grow a pair and challenge McSnot and have done with it

    He’s as yellow as they all are. No courage and just snipe from the sidelines. How typically nu labour and socialist.

    • 84
      Brighton underground says:

      Clarke would be a stalking horse but it’s unlikely to be him who places his head above the parapet first

      Names are being sought in Brighton Hotels right now by the flunkies of the main challengers. It’s a question of whether Brown can be persuaded to step down but there’s plenty of time before christmas for Brown to crash and burn still further and bow out.

      If he doesn’t quit and the Conservatives get their big Conference boost that still points to an inevitable complete Labour wipeout under Brown then the challengers will have to weigh up their chances of beating the other contenders before the election or after a Conservative Landslide under Brown when there is little prospect of most of their supporters or even them still having a job as an MP.

  11. 13
    Thatcher-right says:

    Having lived in Germany for a while I’d tend to place the FDP roughly in the tory camp and the CDU in the wishy-washy, middle-of-the-bed, liberal area..

  12. 16
    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    Let’s hope that ZanuLieBore share their German sister party’s fate next June.

    Last time the US and UK had leaders with the same initials was in 1979, with Jim Callaghan and Jimmy Carter. Both lost the subsequent election. This time we have had George Bush (lost election) & Gordon Brown (???)

    A good omen ;-)

  13. 16

    You can have all the rules on the planet but unless people are motivated to do the right thing they’ll pull stunts. This can be condensed down to goals, processes, and outcomes. Processes are just action and relations, and that has its root in the self, or mind. But, continuous self-improvement can help drive that shift in perspective.

    Jeez, just let it go.

  14. 18
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Didn’t Mark Oaten get all his ideas from our bizzare German brethren?

  15. 20
    SO17 says:

    You have the right of it Guido.
    The Lib Dems permanent office in the HoC had a very permanent feel about it.
    It was like walking into someones much loved in house.
    I’m sure Clegg would like to be Prime minister but not as much as being a well paid career politician without responsibility.
    And that goes for the rest of his uniform carrying nobodys.

  16. 23
    Obama is a Twat says:

    Of course they prefer opposition, from there you can spout all the bollocks you like without fear of ever having to be accountable to the British public

  17. 26
    Deutschland kann es besser says:

    who cares whether those weirdos send their congratulations to the FDP in Germany. Deutschland mit der FDP kann und will es besser!

    • 137
      Watch the Skies! says:

      Classic spin: just like ‘Coke is it’ – just what “it” is is carefully undefined.

  18. 30
    Picture is a thousand words says:

    http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2009/09/andrew-marr-confronted-by-brown-ally/

    Picture to make your heart warm, even Labour’s most loyal journalist (ok, behind MacGuiver or whatever his name) being haranged for going off message.

  19. 32
    Ex says:

    Why bother? He will never get a phone call in return. These are politicians, they only do what is to their own advantage. There is no point rubbing salt into the realization that clinging to the EU is destroying their chances of ever getting any congratulation calls.

    • 47
      brussels-louts says:

      pity the conservatives are sounding so pathetic on lisbon
      expect the little robots to make a few perfunctory outraged noises at conference while promising and doing nothing substantial to stop the erosion of the UK’s sovereign state

      • 54
        One flew over the No 10 Bunker says:

        Cameron has stated more than once there will be a referendum if the treaty is not ratified. Thats now a good possibility with our eastern neighbours delaying there referendum and even if the Irish vote yes. Hopefully it will be no but still.

        Labour promised a referendum, got re-elected and then moved the goalposts, snook in and kicked the ball in the net, picked up the ball to prevent anyone else doing so and went home.

      • 68
        The Admiral says:

        Ever heard the saying, Keep your powder Dry?

        Methinks DC has heard that one, and probably just smiles to himself.

        Wouldn’t you in his place?…………

      • 95
        Ex says:

        Now that is politics. To look like you are doing the right thing by both sides.

        You can not win anymore with principles. The labour chemical and handout dependency is still the best politics to ensure votes.

        Even the green power subsidies and handouts means no other party can even hint that the policies might be reviewed. Who would vote for anyone that will directly remove an income, it is like asking a junkie to shop their supplier. Opinion polls will be useless, as what happens behind the curtain will be the self centered junkie’s choice. That is the real result of the ME ME culture in a public handout driven society.

        We have a chemical and political junkie society.

      • 104
        brussels-louts says:

        a sovereign state can abrogate any treaty it pleases
        ratified or not a referendum is essential
        everything else is PR bullshit for the little robots to spin and pacify any gullible so called conservative eurosceptics with vague rubbish and hints in the absence of firm policy

        • 138
          Watch the Skies! says:

          There gets to be a point where ‘sovereignty’ is so diluted into the common pool that its exercise becomes as problematic as unscrambling an egg.

  20. 50
    Ratsniffer says:

    BBC Pravda 10:00 alert: Drones, sit in front of your screens Big Brother will address the nation. Tractor production figures at an all time high….

  21. 55
    caesars wife says:

    Angela Merkel is one shrewd cookie , and I hope that she completes the reforms , perhaps the analysis by John Redwood is correct though in that she did get a victory but the vote is changing towards the greens/left out of boredom for the german traditional grand coalitions . So good she is boring is perhaps the highest accolaid available to finance cheifs, party leaders and bundersbank officials . I cant fault Angela Merkel .

    back to FDP , how nice it would be where you could launch a party manifesto on making tax cuts , i have never heard a UK lib dem ever declare tax cutts lead to more wealth , not ever . The Uk liberals are socialists with a european catch phrase (death warrant) they combine the totally unproven ideas that being in the EU and adopting socialist tax and spend is some sort of eutopia.
    The FDP on the other hand are European , but not sociliast in the sense that the state does all the hiring and running.

    the left in germany has always been a risk , over hear i hope that the left is finished , but in germany they never quite got totally ruining the state unless you include the national socialists but that is a different story .

    things look very different on other parts of the EU , as the loss of nation being the enivitable result of EU overreach , CW thinks the politicians can slice it which ever way they want , mass immigration is a mistake , eventually the bits of paper will mean little as the cost of the mass beaurocacies to enforce it will cause further resentment , if personal wealth cannot be entrusted to the individual whose work it relies on (with regulation) then democracy will become meaningless .

  22. 57
    Nick Clegg's tiny and irrelevant little mind says:

    Tax cuts? *bzzzt!* Pro business? *bzzzt!* Sensible policies? *bzzzzt!*

  23. 61
    Tim from Slimbridge says:

    Innit disgusting that MPs are now getting away with accusing Bankers of greed and recklesness?

    Have we already forgotten how MPs defrauded us all with their expense sheets?

  24. 63

    Okay, that’s eight solid minutes of LABOUR on the Pravda Lies at Ten – no balance whatsoever, no criticism whatsoever, no counter to labour claims or assertions, whatsoever.

    Isn’t there something about balance… in their charter somewhere… did I just dream that?

    • 71

      Let’s wait and see what happens next week – if it’s the same 10 minutes of unquestioning coverage of the Tory conference than it’s fair (and I’ll eat my hat!)

    • 72
      nell says:

      Sorry. Not going to happen.

    • 75
      chronic says:

      To be frank Rules and Law don’t apply to Liebour.

    • 82
      Brown Smears says:

      even Adolf only watched News At Ten in the bunker

    • 88
      Constantin Brownienko says:

      Shame the Armed Forces have been run down else the last 22 minutes could have been a parade

    • 99

      Oh, and here we are – back with the “saviour”, Mandy. We’re all learning to love Mandy.

      The BBC says we love Mandy.

      We have always been at war with Eurasia.
      We have always loved Mandy
      We will obey
      We submit
      We worship

      fucking piece of shit BBC.

      You’re living through astonishing times folks – a once free country is being enslaved, right before your eyes. How did the Nazis come to power, people always ask. How did it happen to such a civilised country.

      Well now we know, don’t we?

      • 106
        Godwin's Law says:

        Another fuckwit who tries to raise the Nazi Party as pathetic hysterical hyperbole

        Show me the concentration camps and the invading of Poland or shut the fuck up because being shit and incompetent like Brown is hardly the same as being a Nazi

        • 116
          DelBoy says:

          We all have to start somewhere (said Adie vor Krystalnacht).

        • 123
          Mongrel says:

          Agreed. Brown couldn’t organise a pissup in a brewery, let alone the invasion of Poland.

        • 126
          Anon says:

          Ooh err missus! You’ll be censoring history books next.

        • 140

          Show me the concentration camps and the invading of Poland or shut the fuck up because being shit and incompetent like Brown is hardly the same as being a Nazi

          Prick.

          You think they started shooting people on Day One? You think a country snaps from democracy to fascism overnight?

          Think a little eh? Thinking is so important.

      • 118
        Alcan Inc. says:

        Carry on!

  25. 66
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Being fluent in comic book all I can say is actung, actung, donner und blitzen, dumkopft Cleggie is an englander schweinhundt, nein schnell with the congratulations fur Angela. I hope that’s clear, danke.

    If it’s not I can always say it again, but louder,waving my arms about. I find this very effective.

  26. 79
    Bipolar Bare says:

    Brown agrees to a series of debates with Cameron, some with Clegg some without
    BBC News

  27. 86
    montefiore says:

    +++Erection up for grabs – Mandelson+++ BBC News website.

    • 102
      chronic says:

      And for Liebour they have more chance of getting a 20 pound note from one of them grabbing machines at the end of the pier.

  28. 90
    David Hendon says:

    Never mind Germany – watching Mandelson and Co. on the telly makes me wonder if they are all completely deluded and demented?!

    McLoony maybe is the “right” party leader for them after all!

    The trouble is, I do not care who the heck leads that rabble from the relatively safe position of the opposition benches where they could do little practical harm; what does disturb me and perhaps frighten me is that they are in Downing Street and currently calling all the shots, with a very great deal of power over yours and my lives!

    I have said it before here – and I seriously wonder now – it would not totally surprise me yet if McLoser was working on a “national emergency” strategy to justify not calling a general election in 2010, or else fixing that election in some way.

    I mean folks, look at the way they have held off having a by-election in Glasgow North East for so long, and christ, that is only one seat out of a Commons majority of 60!

    And remember Glenrothes by-election!!!!!!!!!

    Be afraid folks, be very afraid!!!

    • 100

      The only thing I’m afraid of is that fear will overcome anger.

      • 108
        David Hendon says:

        Well yes Frank, indeed!

        I really seriously despair. I was not a fan of Mr Blair by any means. But at least he had a “reasonable” respect for people’s feelings and he knew where to draw a line eventually, unlike McBrood.

        Blair also had some charisma, and I think he was competent at what he did. PLUS, at least Blair was actually properly elected to do what he did, whether I agreed with it or not!

        IF and when we ever do get a free and fair general election, I hope Mr Cameron does not blow it by being too vague or too timid in his promises and in the robustness of the way he manages the Tory campaign.

        Anything less than a military style operation from the Tories and a strategic, purely anti-Labour approach from the Lib Dems and fringe parties would be letting McDoom off the hook, and that would be tragic for this country!

    • 112
      Rip Van Winkle says:

      Agreed 99% DH.

      The only disagreement? You seriosuly wonder whether.. there’ll be a GE. I’m certain there won’t be. Said since the last Bliar Government – ‘If Labour think they can’t win an election, you won’t have one’. Everyone thinks I’m mad, off me rocker.

      Anyone for an election on the Lisbon Treaty? A Labour manifesto commitmnet. And were there any comebacks? Did the media chase the ruling elite to keep their word?

      And you think the media will kick up a stink when the GE is ‘postponed’? Yeah, course, and pigs fly, don’t they?

  29. 101
    Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

    Youhoo-new thread.

  30. 103
    Ratsniffer says:

    Two things made my craw rise on Pravda at 10:00. Mandlesnake’s shit-eating grin as he smarmed his way through a conference speech so oily I am surprised that the delegates were not washed away in a tsunami of slime.

    And, second, there in the wings, Neil Pillock, clapping like a deranged groupie at the Dark Lord’s speech.

    Two Euro lovers, who’ve both benefited from the largess of the EU…it makes you want to reach for the industrial sized sick bucket.

  31. 107
    Hamish says:

    Congratulations to Guido Westerhelle.
    You too, Guy.

  32. 109
    Jimmy says:

    Why has Cameron congratulated an opponent? Wasn’t there some shady nationalist party he could have congratulated instead?

  33. 111
    Shocking... says:

    Disinterested? Good grief. I suggest you spend some time reading an ‘old media’ publication and get a feel for what words actually mean before you use them…

  34. 121
    Mongrel says:

    £3 billion a year and AlJabeeba can’t add up:
    “It is the first time Labour have been in third place since February 1982, when they were on 33% compared to 34% for the Liberal-SDP Alliance”
    So that means at least 102% of those polled expressed a preference.
    And yes, Guido that was an ugly grammatical error.

  35. 130
    sidevalve says:

    Quote: “Most LibDems seem disinterested”

    I think you mean ‘uninterested’. ‘Disinterested’ means ‘impartial’.

  36. 131
    Anonymous says:

    Both sensesare well established in all varieties of English and the sense intended is almost always clear from the context. Quote……….

    Any spulling miss takes are kie bored erors. Honest

  37. 132
    Raving Loon says:

    They probably haven’t congratulated them because the Libdems aren’t liberals, they’re statists through and through.

  38. 134
    Mandlesonisalyingtwat says:

    I know this a bit off topic but can you believe the shit that prick Denis MacShane has written for an Irish newspaper regarding Lisbon…
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0929/1224255442737.html

  39. 136
    Anonymous says:

    And this from a member of a party who excel in vote rigging.

  40. 141

    you mean most Lib Dems seem “uninterested”

  41. 142
    Exiled in Wales says:

    Guido, for clarity, may I suggest you number your references to ‘Guido’.

    Perhaps Guido 1 for you, and Guido 2 for Herr Westerwelle?

    It’s confusing otherwise.

    PS Other referencing systems are available.



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