Steve Richards Says “No Bank Collapsed”
Steve Richards in the Indy begins his panglossian column with “Labour activists heading for their pre-election conference in Brighton this weekend have cause to be in a mood of giddy euphoria. The Government called it right during the recession. No bank collapsed.”
Apart from Northern Rock of course. Oh, the Royal Bank of Scotland as well. Errrm, didn’t Halifax Bank of Scotland almost bring down Lloyds TSB into the bargain? Almost forgot Bradford & Bingley. Every UK household has the equivalent of £3,000 invested in shares in RBS and Lloyds. The taxpayer 100% owns Northern Crock and Bradford & Bingley because they collapsed.
Giddy Steve Richards’ grasp of the facts is worse than his analysis…
See also The Case for Elite Politics and Not Listening to the People, Steve Richards: Fails Numeracy Test and Steve Richards : “Voters Aren’t As Clever As Me”.
So..is this going to be Labours election strategy?
..and will anyone believe them?
no because steve richard is a prize cock who no-one listens to
the election strategy is to dump Brown very soon
Richards is not only a Labour shill he’s a moron as well.
That is just on a normal day – when he trespasses into the realm of economics – a subject of which he is almost as ignorant as Polly Toynbee – he invariably makes a total dick of himself.
It’s becoming entertaining watching Browns media lackeys like Richards, Jackie Ashley, Toilets Maguire and increasingly Toenails Robinson twisting themselves into ever more convoluted knots trying to paint a glowing picture of McTwat and his band of idiots.
Don’t they realise we are all standing around, pointing at them and laughing.
Options:
They do not realise that we find them laughable.
They do, but do not care that we are laughing at them.
If there is some kind of a Blairite ‘third way’ that displays neither ignorance nor contempt, it does not spring readily to mind.
Toynbee is pushing the same bullshit. The fact is not many banks collapsed and we are all going to be a hell of a lot poorer for it. We are going to have to pay a huge fortune in increased taxes for reduced services so that labour could prop-up the greedy banking class.
IF they had allowed capitalism to work, then a few more banks would have collapsed, we would have had an extra emergency bank holiday or two, then the surviving banks would have bought up what was left of the collapsed banks for a penny on the pound and would have made a profit from picking over their bones. The government intervention did not save anything for ordinary people. It will cost us a fortune as we pay increased taxes for less services. As it is some billionaires have lost a few billion, but have ultimately had their asses saved by the extremely reluctant taxpayer. In reality, if capitalism had been allowed to work, these billionaires should have ended up penniless on the street.
They did not allow capitalism to work as the elite of the global banking classes are no longer interested in true capitalism. They are pushing a global Marxist fascism whereby they no-longer have to compete in capital markets. They are merely extorting trillions directly from the tax-payer via their wholely bought and paid for G20 puppet governments. I mean why compete in open markets when you can steal trillions from the taxpayers?
The new global banking structures, endorsed by the G20, means that the banks are now guaranteed a never ending supply of suckers to bail them out. We will ALL be much much poorer for this going forward.
I only wish the tories had the balls to state this publicly and openly. However they are every bit as much as a paid whore for the bankers as labour and the liberals are.
Absolutely. There probably does come a point when banks are “too big to fail” in that their failure will have a huge systemic impact. Northern Rock, however, was not such an institution, and nor was Bradford and Bingley. Indeed, the evidence tends to suggest not even Lehman Brothers was – it’s failure caused a major headache for all of its creditors (among them, of course, the other banks) but the banking system, despite the headlines, survived intact.
Still, if it weren’t for those pesky bonuses, everything would be alright, eh?
Mr Ned,
as you say!
“Don’t they realise we are all standing around, pointing at them and laughing.”
No, Lady Thingy.
“They” think the pointing and laughing is something to do with “Care in the Community”.
He does a disservice to the Independent, like so many of their writers. Rintoul is not independent either.
Does anyone know the answer to something that has puzzled us for ages?
Did Richards media-coach Blair as so many of their mannerisms are identical and we know that Bliar was/is the consummate ham actor…?
Not to mention Bliar’s equally consummate ability to withhold large chunks of the truth.
good as ever arthur old boy
Uh?
come off it – you know!
don’t mess abaaaaaaaout!
Nope..don’t know what you’re on about.
Try speaking clearly.
Might be..but only with somebody who has a brain..
Sorry..that’s you excluded then.
What’s your point…cat got your tongue?
Alex Salmond ?
Nicola Sturgeon ?
Does everyone have to named after a fish ?
Harpo Hoon the back stabbing clown.
Hmmm..must be the patients hour on the web at Broadmoor.
He looks like a plastic puppet that’s just had something stuck up his bottom – and he likes it.
Mandlebums cock or his hand to work the levers
give the scots back their bank of scotland and we get back our natwest and halifax, I hope so.
So we keep RBS ?
could do
wouldn’t want it.
It’s got all the debt.
Keep out of finance, you don’t understand it
It’s people like you stopping me set up an english parliament.
Mr Richards when he was a little more anti-establishment.
Ha haaa, an error occurred – this isn’t the one “go back to sleep America” is it – I was about to post it myself!!! great minds eh Chronic, if so ;0)
He would not have been able to get a policy for him you shit
He would not have been able to get a policy for him you shit
you sick bastard thats going too far, leave it
Bill Hicks, what a genius! That man really understood what was real.
In other news, apparently Brown has stolen another tory policy of making spending cuts legally binding. I wonder what loophole he will build in?
And Baroness Scotland’s former cleaner has appeared on TV stating that she never presented any passport to Baroness Scotland and is willing to state on oath, and take a lie-detector test.
Will the Baroness last the night?
The government never gets anything right when it comes to the banks.
Michael, did you mean to stop before the “when it comes to the banks” bit?
Yeah, my mistake!
Could be just: this government never gets anything.
This…….GOVERNMENT!!!!!!……………………………..aaaarrrgghhh!!!
It gets my fucking goat. Every time.
Saying the policy was right is a bit like saying the Titanic was a good ship because it only sank once.
Standing on the deck as the ship sinks into the icy waters, but wait! rescue is at hand.. the Brighton conference:
“The government never gets anything right when it comes to the banks.”
Are you sure?
All goverments appear to make mistakes yet the heads of the banks and the board memebers never are allowed to go under, how odd.
Instead the people constantly have their wealth taken and given to the these individuals, be it via direct moeny printing (socialists like this method) or via interest on debt (a firm favourite of past conservatives)
If you entertain their lies you deserve the shit they continue to serve.
The people do not need the elite, the elite need the people and libetarians are waking them all up.
Amen!
It is hilarious to watch these New Labour luvvies delude themselves that Gordon Brown and New Labour are righteous and can be victorious.
New Labour = New Treason = busted balance sheet & contempt for “our boys”.
I’ve just been listening to PM…
“Gordon Brown receive a rapturous reception from Labour Party members upon his arrival at conference this afternoon… blah blah blah”.
The thing that got me was the tone of the female news reader’s voice suddenly went all up-beat and ‘bright’ — you could almost see her producer waving his arms with a silly grin on his face to encourage a happy happy everything’s just great vibe. Really pathetic BBC.
London Scottish Bank
And Lehmans went don because the Government wouldn’t let Barclays get involved.
Shock horror
News just in:
Banks accept money from foreigners.
At least Barclays are still independent of broon
Labour – lie lie lie. Thats what they do.
What a prat
Here’s hoping for another strong performance from Gordon and his Cabinet over the coming week. This collection of fools, half-wits and the deluded have done more to ruin this country than any individual or group in the past 2000 years
Apologies to fools, half-wits and the deluded who aren’t in the Cabinet but you got what you voted for!
What a c*nt, these Labour people live in some kind of insulated (usually highly paid) parallel world.
No bank collapsed, obviously untrue, they collapsed and were then propped up after the event by massive amounts of public money, now we have a situation where the Bank of England has collapsed (or U.K. pc). None of the political parties have the gumption to address our massive level of debt, so it will come down to the IMF again, they will tell us how to run our economy, so when masses of public sector workers find they are being made redundant it won’t be a political issue anymore, just the basic facts of life, chickens, home and roost.
Is he another rear gunner friend of mandelscum of everywhere cept my house?
rose tinted spectacles just doesn’t come close.
Speaking of Mandlescum….where is the little serpent???
Having a Brazilian?
Just finished with him ducky, wiped my knob on a bundle of £50 notes and am now back to business telling my other bum chum Gordy what shit to say before I tire of him and assume my rightful place as Lord PM of transmarche region 7, formerly known as Great Britain.
A manzilian
He’ll be saving jobs somewhere.
His own
He’s saving our souls-not sure of the spelling.
All sing along now
SIX Brown bottle’s hanging on the wall
And if one Brown bottler should accidentally FAIL
There only be five Brown bottle’s hanging on the wall
So Northern Rock and RBS didn’t get into trouble? And what about The Lehmans/Barclays fiasco?
In what way is this plank ‘Independent’?
Proves that it is a worthless PoS rag. lucky it is running out of money and will disappear soon
He’s just as deluded as Brown, thinking that another few photos with him dribbling over Obama is gonna have the electorate swooning at his feet.
Wooden tops the lot of ‘em.
Obama seems to be ignoring El Gordo is it the dribbling or something else, I think we should be told.
The press conferance with obama and sarcozy brown got that close to obama i thought he was trying to shag him
Yes saw it was that a rolled up newspaper in his pocket?
Poor Obama. He looked deeply uncomfortable with Brown hovering so close behind him. The acrid stench of stale piss and BO must have been simply awful.
I’ll have you know that those photos were good with my very good friend and partner President Beach.
(Well they will be as soon as they photo shop out the saucepans and washing up sink)
How does Sarah get McDoom hard ? …….
She sidles up alongside him & whispers “B.O.” in his ear .. (remember the ad) ? ..
Not forgetting the Icelandic banks that Gordon destroyed because they were terrorists.
Gordon is trying to engineer a new commonwealth, we are now twinned with Libya who we all know are squeaky clean when it comes down to terrorist activities. Madman!
Oi! I head that
herd of course! like herd of goats
“They should be partying the nights away in Brighton sensing that, even more than in the previous three elections, their time has come.”
Edgar Allan Poe described a similar rave:
“And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death. He had come like a thief in the night. And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay.”
Like the analogy, The Masque of the Red Death… good Hammer film that… talking of Hammers… I take it “the last of the Gay” will be Mandelson.
Sorry, MotRD was not a Hammer film. Still, maybe after the GE Mandelson could get one of his billionaire patrons to ressurrect the company and launch his new career as a Scream Queen…
When is a collapsed bank not a collapsed bank? When it is rescued by the taxpayer.
And we all become post-forced guarantors for their liabilities.
This is what happens when McMental’s meds aren’t kept under lock and key.
He cannot overdose himself
No, I mean any bugger can neck a few on their way past. 20 odd minutes after ingestion – pure bollocks.
Today I stopped taking the Indy.I have bought the saturday issue since it launched in 1986 and usually buy a couple in the week.Two weeks ago they devoted the first three pages to a climate-change non-story(I e-mailed them to look up the voyage of the Komet which predated their story by 70 years-no response or correction) and yesterday there was a gratuitously unpleasant hatch job on the late Queen Mum by a ghastly little man named Hari.I concluded that I could not contribute to his pay and I am now reduced to the Grauniad.
Apparently it will be closed down by christmas.
@40 “yesterday there was a gratuitously unpleasant hatch job on the late Queen Mum by a ghastly little man named Hari”
They’ve always had what seems a bizarre vendetta against the Royal Family and the monarchy.
hari is annoyed because he too is a bigotted little queen, but he has to pay for his own gin
Hari is a better writer than any of you shall ever be and more influential than even your pin-up boy Guido.
Grauniad will addle your brine.
THE INDEPENDENT: IT ISNT ARE YOU?
A deluded moron with all the grasp of reality of a stunned slug, unable to see further than his socialist party membership card.
No wonder the indy is going tits up soon(sooner the better), this retarded droid is going to have a a job waiting for him in the quango sector provided by a grateful newlabour.
Its a perfect example of why the MSM dead tree press has degenerated into a rotten stinking corpse not fit for purpose.
“giddy euphoria”??? A mental case for a leader, an economy in utter ruins, less popular than Hindly and Brady and the Yorkshire ripper combined, soon to be ejected from office by an electorate that hates them like poison, ooooooh yes eh? giddy eurphoria just about sums it up!
Richards could open the door of “The Bunker” on to a “Nucleur waste Land” and no doubt say everything under Labour was fantastic. The man is so deluded.He really ought to get out into the rest of the Country and away from the “London Metropolitan Set” he inhabits – the result might well shock him out of his complacent and smug attitudes.Labour is finished as a political force – Steve.The best it can hope for is to ditch Brown and at least have around 200 MPs after the election – if it’s lucky
Two hidden threads between saturday seven up and bad al.
Is there a ghost in the machine,or has somebody spilt guiness over the keyboard?
The quote of the day goes into the RSS and the box on the right. Not hidden at all. Just elsewhere.
Go to saturday seven up,scroll down and click on newer post.
Not complaining,just intrigued.
Guido, your Fails Numeracy Test Link is wrong, you want this one, it defaults to the voters aren’t as clever as me.
http://order-order.com/2008/05/06/steve-richards/
That Alex Salmond’s just a big bag of wind
It’s a bit like the Monty Python “What have the Romans done for us” sketch.
“Well, all right, apart from Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley, HBOS, RBS and Lehmanns, no banks collapsed.”
Dunfermline Building Society, West Bromwich Building Society, Icelandic banks, Irish banks ………..
Dont forget the building societies’ bail out
- and also apart from Alliance & Leicester, Dunfermline BS, UK/offshore arms of Icelandic Banks, London & Scottish -et al -
Rover? (woof woof.)
Giddy euphoria??? Regardless of whether or not banks collapsed, the poor man needs to sit down in a quiet corner, preferably with some heavy medication, and reconnect with reality.
I expect Aljabeeba to pick this up and run with it tomorrow in time for the conference. Commie Marr will follow it up after it is touted on Breakast TV.
After all, the Independent is independent isn’t it.
And so is the BBC…..
Daily Politics Show
Proof that Brown was snubbed by Obama (see at 26:50 minutes in). Brown signals to Obama to stand next to him. Obama ignore the pathetic pleading and begging Brown and walks straight past.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00myqjk/The_Daily_Politics_25_09_2009/
good link – brown is beyond ridicule now
True. That was pathetic.
That was a truly excrutiatingly embarrassing moment and should be played and played again all over . The fact no other sensible sane leader appeared to do the same thing demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt Brown was a lapdog and absolutely desperate for some stardust to rub off as a ‘look at me look at me with Mr Obama’. What a total hoon.
It was no different when both of them were walking out in front of the cameras earlier and Obama was waving to the press and Brown was speaking but utterly ignored. Another cringe worthy moment.
The UK are the laughing stock off the world.
Got to hand it to Obama, he’s taking us for everything he can. Like watching a woman pay hard to get, he now has McBust in the palm of your hand.
What’s that dear Barack, you want more English soldiers to go to die in afghanistan? Of course
And you want millions of countrymen’s money to spend elsewhere… be my guest
Just please stand by me for a photo..
Sad, pathetic and I thought there were rules against using public funds for nakedly party political campaigning.
Just watched it. Only a few seconds but quite enough. Dreadful, sickening, humiliating, like a third-rate waiter hoping for a good tip. Beyond embarrassing. Puts the Bush “Yo Blair” episode in the shade. What a grovelling, snivelling apology for a man is our Prime Minister. It is not funny any more, if it ever was. Blair was bad enough but this guy would embarrass a medieval serf.
No wonder the Yanks treat this country with such contempt. We deserve their contempt. Any country which can have Gordon Brown as PM must be a heap of shit and should be dealt with as such, and we are.
Ye gods – that was cringeworthy beyond belief. *Shudders*
And a couple of little tips to Gaby Hinsliff before going on TV again:
1. wash your hair
2. lose the mustache
“When is a collapsed bank not a collapsed bank?”
I would have said when its doors are still open and it continues to trade. Perhaps that’s nit-picking.
Steve Richards really should have included subtitles for the hard of thinking. Guido should probably stick to expenses “scoops”.
at what cost though?
And at who’s cost? Answer – the poor bloody taxpayer. Again.
To the tune of about £500 billion. Not exactly peanuts.
To “Andrew Neil” at 4:34pm.
Real money went into the banks from the taxpayer, for two purposes. Firstly, to strengthen their capital reserves. This kept them solvent – they were technically bankr*pt without, and legally unable to trade, as Lehmanns. Secondly, to enable them to continue lending to their (mainly business) clients, to prevent their insolvency, and thus keep the economy going. This has only been partially sucessful, because banks have become far less profligate in their lending following their bad fright.
Be under no illusions – a lot of taxpayer’s money – about £500 billion – has been thrown at banks. We will all have to pay for this, for a long time.
Come now, Engineer. It went into the banks for two purposes. First, to guarantee their current bets in the scam called OTC derivatives. Second, to allow them to continue with the scam called OTC derivatives.
STEVE RICHARDS NEEDS A NEW HAIRDRESSER
Thanks for the advice – I’ll go out and buy a few shares in RBS, Crock and Lloyds.
Well you would really, wouldn’t you Jimmy, as a full time stooge. Anybody in business would say that a bank with no money has collapsed. The fact that vast amounts of our money have been pumped into them merely allows them to keep trading while insolvent. It would have been more honest, and cheaper, and fairer to their competitors, to have put them into orderly runoff with a compensation scheme.
Who is this “anybody in business” of whom you speak? I don’t believe you know anyone in business at all. I don’t know anyone who would accept that proposition, nor does any serious commentator take issue with the broad thrust of what was done save those who now maintain with the benefit of hindsight that not rescuing Lehman Brothers was a mistake. Only the more swivel-eyed rightie (or George Osborne) would seriously suggest bank failure as a recipe for economic success.
btw I object to “full time stooge” as I aim to maintain my amateur status in order to stooge at the Olympics.
This is actually getting to be a problem – the lefties have managed to push the line that Gordon might be weird, a liar, a smearer, a coward but he at least got the banks right. Utter rubbish
1) He created the system which didn’t watch them properly
2) He ignored the IMF warnings over debt
3) He allowed the money supply to expand relentlessly as chancellor, knowing the housing bubble brought votes in
4) The bail-out was far too costly – as can be seen by the return of bonuses, many of the banks were not that badly off, just like sharks and blood, saw the chance to take from the gullible taxpayer
5) The big mergers have made things worse – will be even harder to let bad banks go bust – as they should
6) The massive money printing will lead to huge inflation and then another boom, followed by another bust
7) the high-tax, high regulation economy Brown has created is particularly ill-equipped to fight back from the recession
Basically, he has got it all wrong. Spending far too much, taking out too much debt and all because he wanted votes. First the housing bubble made people feel the illusion of prosperity. Second he wants a new bubble to make people like him again. He got the repsonse to the credit crunch totally 100% wrong. The only way in which he was right was in the way that an alcoholic will feel better in the short term if he keeps drinking.
It was a golden opportunity to institute sovereign credit – but he bottled it. He could have gone down in history for hundreds of years, but McCourage is just too plain bitter to know when he’s onto a good thing.
Defiant Iran vows to start up ‘secret’ nuclear facility
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6234038/Iran-defies-Obama-and-vows-to-switch-on-secret-nuclear-facility.html
Oh dear, as Labour talk of reduction yet again due to a threat that appears far from being over others seem to be following the expansion route. An interesting situation indeed and one for sure that will cheer up the Israelis no end as well.
They’ll be glad of the chance to road-test all those bunker busting missiles Bush and his chums dished ‘em on the q. t.
Just as well Israel does not have a secret nuke weapons facility and would allow international inspection if it did.
Has Richards updated his CV yet? I hear the Independent will be closing down soon due to lack of sales (and shit left wing reporters) so shouldn’t he be more worried about his own job than that of McGay’s?
The last sentence of Richard’s article has a sting in the tail for McDoom.
“Brown has a case to make. Ironically this makes him more precarious. He has a case to make, but seems incapable of making it.”
A nut case?
Northern Cock failed because it was handing out 125% mortgages left right and centre, Bradford and Bungle were doing self certified mortgages. NONE of that happened before 1997. So what happened in 1997? Can someone remind me?
Your 1996 calendar became obsolete.
We did banished vem tory bastards for gud, no more boome and bust, and we delivered, not like em tory bastards, nasty party, just for millionares who have lots of cars and big houses
It failed because it was lending money it did not have – the 125% mortgages had nothing to do with it. It was reselling the debts then suddenly people stopped buying and Northern Rock was left holding the baby.
If you go to a bank in France in order to borrow money to buy a property they will show no interst in that property.
They do not care, it is your decision.
They will want to see your savings account in order to prove that you are financially competent.
The rest of the long interview is to see if you are the sort of person who will actually repay your debt!
Ps:
People over here buy houses to live in, most generally for the rest of their lives.
That’s not correct, 125% mortgages meant that as soon as the housing market turned south people were in negative equity, it was also lending money to people who couldn’t pay it back.
Other Building Societies seemed to manage. And in any case NR’s lending SHOULD have been picked up by the FSA and stopped. Again this problem didn’t arise until 1997.
Other Building Societies were following the building society business model. That is, they were lending money from their own depositors.
What Northern Rock was doing was getting money from the money markets and from the US in particular. That source of funds suddenly dried up when the sub-prime mortgage scandal broke. So Northern Rock had issued mortgages but could not fund them from its usual sources and so would have gone into liquidation.
The people who borrowed money from Northern Rock were not the problem.
Negative equity simply means you cannot sell your house without getting into debt ; it does not mean you cannot repay the mortgage and that was absolutely not the case with Northern Rock.
The Daily Telegraph did an excellent series of articles on the collapse of Northern Rock but clearly you did not read them.
Yes it does matter because many people COULDN’T sell their houses without making a loss or get another mortgage. No one is doubting that NR’s model was a bag of shit but they were being allowed to do what they were doing because Gordon Brown and his FSA left them do it.
The important point here is that Gordon Brown allowed this mess to go on. Bradford and Bungle were yet another Building Society with a failing model. Why didn’t Brown put a stop to it? The jock Hunt likes to take the credit but not the blame.
Glass-Steagall repealed. OTC derivatives invented. Money for nuffink. Chicks for free.
This Steve Richards fellow obviously has nothing between the ears.
Which one of the three Labour monkeys is he?
See no Labour problems, hear no Labour problems, speak no Labour problems!
Oh and before I forget, don’t forget the “donkey”.
I don’t read Steve Richards.
Thanks for reminding me as to why.
I think you should. I taught him all he knows about crawling up Labour’s rectum in the hope of getting an MBE( in my case a Knighthood)
Has he ever done a smba with Mandy?
If smba means shag my bare arse, Yes.
Richards is the most arrogant, up your own arse prick in the media. Distortions, half truths, oh and lies, permiate evrything he says and writes.
Another against the wall when the revolution comes.
Slightly worse than the criminals in the Labour government are those wimpish journalists who apologise for them, defend them, focus on the faults of others and/or puff them up, including speculating about their tribal wars of leadership.
That this community extends well beyond those who are rabid lefties is a matter of sadness and concern.
O/T, but the Telegraph is reporting that Zanulab PF has only managed to persuade 330 saps to cough £500 apiece for a conference feast to be held in a venue seating 800. Dubbing it “Brown’s Last Supper”…
Should be some cheap tickets coming onto eBay soon.
They could do something really socialist and hand them out to the homeless of Brighton.
I think that might create problems in relation to Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights
Most of the delegates will be homeless come next May.
Except the ones on the stage. Many of those have several homes. At our expense.
Yeah .. and look what happened to the last Geezer who tried organising a “Last Supper” …
I think McDoom would look good on a cross .. with Fondlebum & B’liar either side of him ..
And 150 Judases hanging themselves in the garden!
Why do all these labour cheerleaders look such smarmy, arrogant twats?
He has that self righteous supercilious smirk that armchair socialists have, which is a biproduct of spending other people’s money.
Steve Richards, what a twat!
OT:
Just went to Daily Mail for my dose of total insanity.
Someone please ma
Steve Richards, what a twat!
OT:
Just went to Daily Mail for my dose of total insanity.
Please link top story.
Mrs H’s chin hit floor in total disbelief.
I was trying to explain political correctness to one of the Belgium guys at pre-natal the other day. He just could not get his head around the idea at all!
He wasn’t called Marc Dutroux was he ?
A friend from Luxembourg got busted on the way back from Holland with a largish lump of smoke.
The case got dropped, because the female judge who was investigating her crime was linked to that case. All of her cases got dropped. Nothing ever happened to the judge or the other politicians involved!
Truly, Eng, one of the, words fail me things that I have seen so far!
Jesus laughed cos otherwise He would have cried!
Beyond belief.
On the ‘Apocalypse’ WW2 series, they(Frogs) were describing the spirit of the Blitz in London, the smiing defiance of that lost Nation.
I fucking wept!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216220/Mothers-banned-looking-children.html
It’s worrying Eng. We’re grandparents bring up a disabled grandchild and think we’ll have to register.
What’s happened to the concept of family? Labour’s destroyed even that.
I thought I’d reached the point of being unshockable with all the PC madness, but to use the hackneyed phrase, this beggars belief.
Not sure we could even look forward to a quick return to sanity after the election, either. Unravelling the legislative madness could take years, and the loony lefties administering this stuff will kick and scream.
The one thing decent people must do is stand their ground for as long as they can. Don’t give in to this lunacy without a fight.
Families are a subversive element in society, and are inimical to the rights of homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender persons. They are also a danger to the great socialist revolution.
The destruction of the traditional nuclear family, the march of the one parent family, the feminisation of men and their exclusion from their outdated fatherhood role are all essential elements in the building of a true socialist society where everyone is a servant of the State – which is how it should be.
Of course,now I know why the Great Leaders politburo re-named the dept. of Eduacation.It tells all really when the words children and families are seperated by the word schools as eduacation is viewed as an intervenionist tool/weapon, TO HELL WITH KNOWLEDGE!
Under Socialism the Party and the State are the paramount organs of society. Placing personal and family considerations ahead of the needs and wishes of the collective is individualism and bourgeois sentimentality.
Pure evil, isn’t it?
Why do Liebour scum assume that even if they did get credit for saving the economy, the world etc that they would get re-elected anyway?
in 1997 the economy under Major and Clarke was on the up an economy that allowed Liebour to piss away on crap. But the Tories still lost the election. Why, because people thought of John Major as a loser, just like we think of one eye as a loser.
Let’s face it John Major was regarded as ‘grey’, uninteresting, not really very dynamic.
But gordon? He’s regarded as a REAL LOSER. Unpleasant, dishonest, incompetent – a silly twit who chases Omaha around the UN kitchens for a photo-op. Think he’s going to turn that image around before the next election? Never!
Comparing the economy in 1997 to the economy today……I’ll take ‘grey’.
The Splitting Image character of John Major was entirely grey. The only colour in the scenes was the green peas he was trying to balance on his knife.
But certainly the country’s debt was less then than the now unprecedented levels. Oh for the good old fashioned greyness!
A compelling argument for scrapping democracy. Allowing tossers to pick the next Government based on X Factor style hype and a photogenic leader is as insane as taxing millions of working people absolutely loads so that millions of feckless morons can continue breeding and claiming. No Government in their right mind would allow…….Oh, hang on a minute.
The Marxist trash that is Labour didn’t “save the economy” in fact they’ve been printing money and begging the bank of England to keep interest rates down in a desperate attempt to introduce a phoney feel good factor before the next GE.
But after that, the chickens will come home to roost. Rampant inflation, sky high interest rates, mass unemployment, and snotty and his commie chums will be long gone, sucking on the Euro gravy teat, or some “international” non-job pretending to be important.
…Which is why DC needs to get out of or at least reduce influence of EU to UK otherwise these mad Labour bastards will just be promoted to ruin our lives further from Brussels…
Don’t hold your breath. They are all just front men for real power-brokers, they do what they are told. I don’t think that Cameron, Brown, Blair, Clegg etc actually have ANY convictions about ANY of their policies. They don’t actually believe in them, they just say whatever they think will get them elected, making sure of course not to spoil the plans of those who act behind the scenes. Knowing what craven opportunists these people are, ask yourself a simple question. If any of the ‘big 3′ party leaders announced that they would withdraw from the EU, reinstate the death penalty, halt immigration, reduce the awful levels of deliberate waste in Gov, stop ‘benefits to dole scroungers, repeal dozens of petty and interfering laws passed in the last 10 yrs, etc, etc, would they win an election? I think that any objective person would answer ‘Yes, by the biggest margin in history’. Now ask yourself then why do they not do such a thing? Partly because there are others within their parties who have been selected by the ‘shadowy figures’ to ensure all runs smoothly, ever-ready to put the knife in should things move in the ‘wrong’ direction, and mostly because the policies outlined above would allow the UK to become strong and independent, it’s peoples aware of their identity without having to celebrate everybody else’s, not part of the insane globalisation that is taking place before our very eyes. And that just doesn’t fit with their NWO agenda.
The G20 countries skirted around the issue of ending stimulus packages, or “agreed” with Gordon to continue with them for the time being, as he spun it.
Sad to say it, but Gordon’s only real interest in these packages is to keep the “global recovery” going for a little bit longer, up to the time of the general election, to keep his election chances alive.
He must be absolutely ecstatic that all this money is being injected into economies around the world to keep them afloat long enough to help him get elected next year.
Do you not think he is imploring other governments to his agenda so when the sewerage farm hits the wind turbine he can pass our problems of his creation as an international crisis and avoid owning up as just another socialist arsehole who blew three generations budgets on unsustainable ransom jobs creation.
Called ransom jobs because any honest government will have to p45 all these non-essential facillitators etc and henceforth be known as the nasty party who cut investment,it will be a personal tragedy for each of those laid off and it would be unlikely they would see their way to vote Tory in the future.
That is the booby-trap that awaits Cameron
Who is he ?,is he somebody important?.
Just read the article from tolly poynbe, I don’t know what fucking street she lives on, certainly isn’t on the same planet as the one I do.
Ought to go into this hack business, if a complete tosser like her can make a shed load of money peddling a load of shit, we all have a chance.
That’s what zanulabor meant when they said things can only get better. We can all make money on a load of shit, just like Tolly
HSBC one of the few Banks that didn’t need any UK Government Bail Out has obviously decided that Brown’s Britain is finished as a centre of financial excellence as it intends its Chief Executive to be re-locate back to Hong Kong
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/25/hsbc-chairman-relocate-hong-kong
Steve Richards can do some good analysis when he sticks to politics. But the moment he delves into economics and finance, he pens pure guff. Poor chap.
A reminder Steve: it only in Britain that so many banks collapsed. Half of the high street banks (and some building societies too) ended up insolvent. They needed rescue bail outs. No other country in the world apart from Iceland, Ireland and Latvia has been hit so hard by the crisis, precisely because of Brown’s misguided policies and we can’t compare these tiddlers. Certainly Britain is the black sheep of the G20.
Boasting that Brown “saved” the banks is bonkers when it was his slack regulation and inability to stop the boom that created the mother of all busts.
Brown is the “do nothing” PM: he did nothing about the housing bubble, he did nothing about about the budget deficit, he did nothing about the City getting out of control.
His insight matches his eyesight.
Yes Gordon scuppered the Icelandic banks when he seized all their assets branding them terrorists.
What else did our Dear Leader do nothing about?
Helicopters for our troops in Afghanistan.
Personel carriers for our troops in Afghanistan.
Rover.
Baroness Scotland.
Speaker Martin.
Please feel free to add to this list – Gordon Brown our “do nothing” prime minister would like to know.
Arrogant sod.
Guido.
A couple of “characters” you may like to take a look at with a view to deletion:
Daves Deid Bairn
Equitable Life Protester
Aside from this comedy, todays double act other half – la Toynbee
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/25/gordon-brown-resignation-labour-conference
The woman is a national treasure, beyond parody
The comments are a scream!!
“but most would say his Captain Oates walk earned him a chapter in that slim volume of modern British politicians with true courage”. HHa HHAaaa, Ha Ha. Got to hand it to Toynbee, who needs thedailymash when she is around.
The woman is totally “off her head” and even more divorced from reallthan Steve Richards ! Brown would rather slit his wrists with a blunt pen knife after overdosing on his ant–depressants than stand up at the Labour Party Conference and utter those words.
No sorry Polly -the Labour Party “acclaimed” Brown leader in June 2007.Saner voices(I’m afraid you were NOT one of them – who can forget your piece on Brown being the “wunderkind” of British politics))within the Labour Party counselled against taking such a step after all as the saying goes -”a leopard can’t change its spots” and Gordon had form aplenty of the type of leader he would prove to be. Alas for Labour he’s proven that he was as somebody somewhere said “fatally flawed pyschologically” and totally unable to connect to the British people despite all you and other “tame media lackeys” have attempted.
So all that remains is for he,the Labour Party and you and the other “media luvvies” to sink will as little ill-grace as can be mustered beneath the waves of electoral contempt. But never mind you can always start “toadying up” to Dave or failing that buggering off to play “La Grande Signora” in your Tuscan Villa and await the “second coming” of “Miliboys”;”La Purnell” et al.You may have to wait sometime though.
The reinvention of Sarah Brown
25 Sep 2009: Guardian
Sarah Brown’s impeccable public profile could be the best thing Labour has got going for it with the election looming
*Covers mouth guffaws silently*
I had a point.
Richards is also rewriting history and/or displaying his inability to read when he claims ‘A former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee estimates that if David Cameron had been in power during the recession, unemployment would have reached five million.’
Blanchflower recently wrote that if a future Tory government cut spending too sharply before the economy has started to recover then unemployment might hit 5 million.
Subtle difference!
Press Release about gordon’s speech to the Labour Conference next week says he is pledging £1billion to cancer care. That’s good.
What’s he planning to do about Afghanistan? – probably nothing – he’s not much interested in war.
What’s he planning to do about the economy? Oh print another £175trillion over the next year to fund databases for potentiaally paedophile parents, grandparents, great grandparents, close friends etc.
What’s he planning to do about baroness scotland ?- why nothing !! innocent as the day she was born as are all the troughing mp’s and labour lords.
Political comedy in the making. Bet the BBC won’t be publishing it nytime soon.
£1bn to cancer care. That sounds good. Here’s how it works. More scans, biopsies, diagnoses create more cancer sufferers. As a cancer sufferer you have to have treatment. Treatment includes unpleasant drugs. Big Pharma makes money. Bigger numbers all round – everyone’s a winner.
But think on this – far more men die with prostate cancer than from prostate cancer.
Why the Fuck has Gordon gone to Brighton today? There’s fuck all happening.
http://www.labour.org.uk/fringe/
Unless he’s going out for a gayers pub crawl tonight.
Ha! Mood of giddy euphoria !!?
I think William Rees Mogg has a better take on it – the ship is sinking!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1216272/WILLIAM-REES-MOGG-Rough-seas-captain-Labour-sinking-fast.html
Time to cut my wrists.
The Prime Minister’s private office made five telephone calls to try to get a one-on-one interview with President Barack Obama. The White House agreed to a brief interview in the kitchen of the United Nations, and issued a statement saying that the President, though too busy to give time to the Prime Minister, actually has a high opinion of him
Oh dear
188. Make no mistake – you’ll be down there. And I hope it’s hot.
So Gordon has a maximum of 8 months left. Can we have a countdown ticker please Guido?
Life’s going to be dull without the silly old fart and Mandy around. Never mind I’m sure Boy George and Husky hugging Dave will step up to the plate.
Seconded, a countdown ticker would be good, really bring home that he is clinging on my his fingernails… though I still think he’ll try to avoid having the election, declaring an emergency or something.
Even a used one would do.
http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/bush-countdown-clock
He’s bonkers.
Richards is a bellend.
Well he may but he’s also a liar . He cannot believe the rubbish he is spouting.
o/t but happened to see Watchdog on BBC hosted by Anne Robinson, got to be the weakest link ever to: Alastair Campbell of all people, sat in the studio as if butter wouldn’t melt telling the viewers about the times he had been conned by unscrupulousness tradespeople FFS, Yeah thought like about 60 million of us had already been conned by the likes of you and Blair.
Something rotten in the state of Denmark BBC.
I normally hate unscrupulous tradespeople, but I’ll make an exception in these cases.
Given Campbell’s reputation, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was spinning; maybe he demanded a low price and got what he payed for.
Yes Eng! And Guido has now annihilated him thank goodness!!
Oh Eng it looks as if I’m saying those things to you rather than that unmentionable slug who’s making fun of a poor disabled little boy.
I absolutely hate how he is doing that. How can he do that? He can’t have any feeling.
Thank you Guido . That’s cleaned that up nicely. Although I don’t regret what I said but I accept it is best that all the posts were deleted.
+++chuckles+++
I saw the whole before Guido tidied it up – no offence would have been taken.
Parts of the thread look a bit odd now, but we’re better without the slime.
+++laugh+++ Yep agree. Guess suggestions for poisonous drinks might not be quite the thing – but don’t regret.
Sad how these labour trolls either try to attack disabled children or be offensive over race.
Hello Damien, is that you back again so soon? I was sure I could tell from the stench.
I think it may be CharlieWhln. What foul people they are.
Sickest of the sick. It’s for things like this that they have to be annihilated at the polls. To be governed by such as these is intolerable.
This is the way to go, remember how unreadable this site became when our host took his summer sabbatical and the troll infestation caused posts to be the currency of insult trading.
This is the way to go = don’t feed the trolls, a reply to Engineer’s deleted post.
Big Billy Goat Guido is back – and he’s angry….
I’M TURNING UP THE VOLUME
Damn, meant 193 to go in reply to the arsehole but GF must have removed him as I typed. About time.
I reckon we’re seeing the first cases of DCB syndrome – where, as the first rays of realisation finally light their minds as to how fucked their utterly loathed, failed, and urinously unsexy brand of 1970′s student Marxism is in this, the 21st Century, normally smug, placid and unmasculinated New Labour apologists explode into violent Tourettes-like bouts of impotent obscernity hurled from behind the safety of their keyboards, thereby revealing the true contents of their souls. It won’t be pretty while the epidemic lasts, but at least we can take comfort from the fact the syndrome usually leads to health-wrecking moral degradation and eventual alcoholic suicide
Well spotted Fawkes ! nothing said about sell off strategey , ruin has not told us how, having thrown all the cash at the failed banks , what would be the best way of getting them working .
earth mother polly has writen ruin resignation speech , ed makes call for “more fighters” , ed and danny back brown ! millibands playing it close Alan johnson keeping low , prescott piles into harman , should be fun .
A united labour party Conference – See how we all love one another !!!!
This is going to be entertaining.
As someone else posted earlier (sorry, can’t remember who – apologies for the plagiarism) it’s worth looking up the Comment Is Free page on the Guardian website for Pollytwaddle’s piece. The replies are a hoot.
I notice that the Bum Bandit Corporation keep trying to play the “Gordon got it right about the economy” but play down the robbing of pensions, the flogging off of gold at rock bottom prices not to mention it was the gay one eyed twat that persuaded Lloyds to buy a shit bank up and then trash Lloyds.
That’s what the BBC call ‘off topic’
WTF is Liza Minellis ex husbands photo doing on this blog
What a bunch of miserable tossers the one time labour party are. Tosspot, John,is one of the funniest. He thinks Braun can win. In as much as it does not matter which stupid Bilderberg bastard becomes prime monster, he may be right.
The truth is that (with the exception of HSBC & Standard Chartered) all of the major banks collapsed. That includes Barclays that staved off the receiver by raising new capital from the Arabs, but only by screwing its existing shareholders in the process. Lloyds might or might not have collapsed, but the half witted Chairman, with the gleam of greed in his eye, joined in with the one eyed Scotchman to merge his institution to a bank that was already bust beyond all hope of repair.
The Khaki one, (that’s a dirty shade of brown) would have you believe that the banks have been saved and that recovery is just around the corner. That corner is a long, long way from where I am sitting.
Why assume this is an re-write of the facts?
“A short a time ago as February, the Ministry of Plenty had issued a promise (a ‘categorical pledge’ were the official words) that there would be no reduction in the chocolate ration during 1984. Actually, as Winston was aware, the chocolate ration was to be reduced from thirty grammes to twenty at the end of the present week. All that was needed was to substitute for the original promise a warning…
…Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date.”
Steve Richards, a noob, a rube and a boob.
[...] Steve Richards Says “No Bank Collapsed” Steve Richards in the Indy begins his panglossian column with “Labour activists heading for their pre-election [...] [...]
Steve Richards doesn’t normally look straight at the camera…
Truth is Labour got rolled over by the banks just as in 1931. Brown had not a clue and did a Ramsay MacDonald. Labour is clueless on finance and is in awe of bankers.
The left has no achievements to boast of, so they have to make them up.
Steve Richards is a real toady and a fuckwit.
Richards is not only a Labour shill he’s a moron as well.
One hand washes the other