September 24th, 2009

+++ Source : Tapui Denies Showing Baroness Passport +++


  1. 1
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:


    Back of the net!

  2. 2
    Dick the Prick says:

    With err…friends…err….staff err… is she a Labour PPC?

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    Throbber says:

    Obvious that was going to happen.
    And now she will show it to all of us and there will be no documentation at all.
    So Patsy will be proved to be what we all knew from the start of this – she, (like all of Labour) is a liar.

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    :) says:

    Thank you Guido, that is so sweet.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Oh God: now I’ve told all my chums with glee, pleassssse tell me this ain’t the same source that ‘leaked’ the James Purnell running for leader yarn a few merry months back *chews nails*

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    Anonymous says:

    Baroness Scotland ain’t gonna survive the party conference season, whatever happens – it is too much of a ‘distraction’…

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    Anonymous says:

    One can almost hear Gordon screaming all the way from New York…

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    P1 says:

    Goodbye “Baroness” Scotland. Please hand back the title and the £170k as you leave the office.

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    Vindictive Vic says:

    Gordon, you dozy twat, you could have pre-empted all of this. Now the start of Conference is totally buggered.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha indeed.

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    J lewis-List says:

    Perhaps Brown could offer her a seat in the Lords and make her Minister for Mending Moral Compasses; that should keep her quiet.

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    bergen says:

    I ought to write “if true,she’s finished” but she ought to have gone days ago.For sheer adhesion to the trough,she’s the best yet.

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    Vanity ! Vanity ! ALL is Vanity ! says:

    If correct Patricia Scotland will soon be an ex-Minister not because she failed to ask th question but because she would appear to have lied to the UKBA;Gordon Brown;the Media and the British people – although it is of course the word of an illegal immigrant Tongan cleaner and a Labour Minister, Peer of the Realm, UK Chief Law Officer and Queens Counsel and who would you believe ?

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    Baron Scotland says:

    It’s the woman wot takes the blame.

    Thank goodness.

  14. 14
    Crispy Poo says:

    Does it really matter we are only talking a congestion charge related issue here.

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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Can she be done for perjury or perverting the course of justice?

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    Papasmurf says:

    Why was the solicitor husband arrested?

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    Piggy says:

    Could be that she is so far in that her head is firmly stuck.

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    Willsteed says:


    I saw this coming.

    She’s hooked up with Max Clifford hasn’t she?!

    Bye bye Scotland

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    Anonymous says:

    WHAT – your Source, please

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    Scout master, Cape Cod Troop 666 says:

    He screams with orgasm in Cape Cod.

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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Crispy Poo
    People go to jail for lying about speeding penalties
    This bitch needs a spell in Holloway

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    Papasmurf says:

    doubt that will be given to you

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    Michael White says:

    Look, she is a talented black female lawyer & for that she deserves a second chance.

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    Praguetory says:

    You know when you’ve been Tonga-ed.

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    Anonymous says:

    Watch the NuLabour attack dogs change the tune about ‘thought she was fine, married to an upstanding solicitor fellow, many years of residency, paid her tax…’ to ‘finding out’ what she got up to of an evening, what company she kept, some dodgy photos from her past…

    “Can’t be trusted – mixed with the wrong crowd..”

    Just have to find that a friend of a friend once had sex with a teenager who then slept with someone for money so she could take cocaine once and the character assassination guilt-by-association will be complete…

    Sunday newspaper journalists must be salivating at the chance of some good work with a huge payoff just before the Labour Party conference..

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    Gurner says:

    Can I still get 9/4 she goes anywhere?

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    king chillout says:

    Smithers, release the hounds.

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    Michael White says:

    Or is it a third chance now? What-ever – she is black. And female. She is untouchable & unblamable by Gordon. So nah.

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    Anonymous says:

    In a bizarre way might this not actually be helpful to Brown? The thinking is that now he can say he had decided in all good faith that she hadn’t breached the ministerial code, relying on her assurances that she had seen the woman’s passport, but in the light of this new information etc etc…

    Call me cynical. But I wonder just where this story did come from…

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:


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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    The charlady

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    going mental says:

    sit down with the popcorn and watch the start of the end for new labour

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    Papasmurf says:

    Lying in a criminal investigation is Perverting the Course of Justice.

    The only way of clearing her name is charge –> Jury –> clear / conviction.

    Who do you believe…….. you decide.

    IMO guilty Bye Bye Scotland

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    genghiz the kahn says:

    JCB for Mr Brown.

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    Tony Woodley says:

    Is this cover for the 5,000 jobs going in the West Midlands at the Jag and 1,500 jobs at Vauxhalls?

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    Kin L says:

    So this lady who had free range of the UK’s top law maker’s home had not been checked out by the security services?

    Kin L !!!!

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    Not long till labour gone says:

    Out! Out! Out!

  39. 39
    Mr. Gregory Ditch, advising Al_Ja_Beeba says:


    Cut the crap !


    Give me solutions !

    . . as to how to dump Gorgon !

    NOW !

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    Article 38 says:

    Ha ha, I knew this was coming.

    Baroness Scotland has not only broken the ‘civil’ law, she has lied to the investigating agency. Isn’t that a criminal offence?

    The UKBA said they had satisified themselves with Scotland’s version of events when they hadn’t even interviewed Tapui.

    Let’s not forget that the UKBA Chief Executive Lin Homer was trying to cover for Scotland – I think she may have to go too.

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    Beautiful Day says:

    When she gets done for the criminal offence of employing an illegal immingrant, she (and all the other New Lab shite) will say they chose their words very carefully and were only talking about the “technical breach of the rules” in not photocopying the documents, which was the civil offence for which she was fined £5000.

    Harman will probably be the first to use this excuse on QT tonight.

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    shelling-out says:

    …plus interest!

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    Papasmurf says:

    It’s an offence to claim to be a solicitor under the Solicitors Act.

    What’s Hubby been up to?

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    Brown Out !! says:

    Get some popcorn in, this is going to be a great show !!

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    Stronghold Barricades says:


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    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    LOL Only her trotters are sticking out

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    Onan the Rotarian says:

    Nem con

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    Papasmurf says:

    Exactly. BOGOF. Says it nicely Bog Off NOW both of you.

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    Tractor Stat says:

    oopps – typo there – missing the words :

    ‘run over by . . . ‘

    all better now

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    shelling-out says:

    What’s with the “look” at the beginning of every sentence uttered these days?

    You’re as bad as they are, Michael.

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    Beggars belief says:

    What no security checks? She only had complete access to the house of the Attorney General. Bloody hell you need more vetting to do a school run these days.

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    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    LOL She’ll enjoy it too much in Holloway with all the other strapon bull-dykes

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    Jam (tomorrow) makin' me Hungary says:

    Just a minute – you sayin’ Big Pattie is racist?

    Getaway. Dis cleaner got the job on account of being respectful – and not too dear.

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    mad fred 2 para says:

    ho ho ho

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    cynic says:

    Was that a photocopier being slug across the conference centre in Pittsburgh?

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    Clitty Watch says:

    Com ca ?

    Has he got a cli torus then?

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    Michael Hunt says:

    No wonder fishing stocks are down…

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    Anonymous says:

    There is no situation so bad that it cannot get a whole lot worse.

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    The man at No 47 says:

    Is she an ‘Add to basket’ bride?

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    Crispy Poo says:

    You need one of those ministerial pamphlets to wave at the officer when you get caught speeding. And say those Magical words “It was all within the rules” i think a spell in holloway is being to kind, take the bitch up tower hill and off with her head.

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    Anonymous says:

    . . . from what ?

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    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:

    The illegal immigrant Tongan cleaner, of course.

    In actual fact I’d take the word of a Gorbals Ned against Baroness Scotland.

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    Billy Blofeld says:

    It gives Gordon the opportunity to raise the bar with respect the crimes and misdemeanours a Minister can commit without being sacked.

    Go on – keep her Gordon. It’ll be a laugh………

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    Seasick Dave says:

    Soliciting Tongans?

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    going mental says:

    hey gordons got something to say

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    Michael Hunt says:

    One would hope so.
    Lying to the Borders & Immigration agency… life behind bars.

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    Beria_Pride says:

    Oh you’re all loving this aren’t you! You’re all fascists.

    You wait until Dave’s cousin Harriet is in charge! You’re all going to be denounced and under worked to death in cyberia.

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    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    That was “master baiter” wasnt it.

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    Charlie says:

    When a man entered the Queen’s bedroom , Whitelaw offered his resignation , thought it was not his fault. How the time have changed.

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    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:


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    Mike Rouse says:

    Rotten to their cores this lot

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    Another man laughing at Brown's demise says:

    Nah, she’s only be untouchable if she had those two other mandatory right-on qualities; one legged and lesbian.

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    Anonymous says:

    Michael, nobody has spotted your article today claiming Obama is a Muslim. When people read between the lines of your blog on the Guardian you will be toast as well you wanker. I really wish you were that Hunt WHite .

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    Baroness Lying Kunt says:


    Can anyone explain…. How does an illegal immigrant have “legal documentation”…?


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    Throbber says:

    Who said it was hubby claiming he was a solicitor?
    For all we know it was Trishy-babe that made the claim.

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    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    Sink the Baroness


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    P1 says:

    Juicy. Unless Scotland is out before about 8.00pm tonight, Harman is going have to defend her on QT tonight, whilst appearing not too hard on the poor Tongan cleaner – they’re all women so it’s tough to call. Obviously the non-solicitor husband will cop for it big-time.

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    The man at No 47 says:

    I hope that he puts a window out on the jet.

    *Crosses fingers and toes*

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    Sir Cum Spect says:

    It seems that all our Christmases have come just at the right time!

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    Penfold says:

    Oh dear, that’s Baroness P done for.

    Next scoop will be the Tongan having hired Max Clifford with a kiss and tell in a Sunday tabloid.

    Understand there’s a book out this w/e detailing Labour scandal, combine that with S(r)hitty Vadera leaving, the so-called snub to Gordo by Barack, Hesford’s resignation, Clarke’s loyalty comments re Gordo, Balls and Millipede’s manouvrings, Union hostility combined with policy ransoming for cash…. et al, etc.,

    One can almost see the Black hole appearing at conference, sucking the life out of Gordo and his mates.

    What chance a coup d’gordo……

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    Groucho says:

    Unfortunately its just one word against another, so don’t get too excited just yet.

    However the net is closing…

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    Be Gone Gordon ! says:

    No mention of this on Brown’s Broadcasting Corp as yet – surprise, surprise. They have obviously not had “the word” yet from the “Dear Leader” or Lord Fondlebum.

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    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Dunno but it made me look a prize chump in the local.

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    The man at No 47 says:

    She’s a black, female cleaner so she deserves another chance.

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    Anonymous says:

    Perhaps we could make Alesha Dixon Attorney General and kill two birds with one stone ??

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    Article 38 says:

    This could be why Hesford resigned yesterday. Perhaps he found out more following Tapui’s arrest and couldn’t stomach any further lies and criminality

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    Groucho says:

    Yes, I have beer in the fridge, the kids will be in bed and the dog will have been walked. QT should be a classic.

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    Cyco Billy says:

    Hush now, Troll – no regulars here ever write “Labour Party”.

    As for “dodgy photos”, you should know these are never ever published, as all the other photos of anybody else would be instantly ineffective. If “dodgy photos” are required, they miraculously find their way onto the target’s computer.

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    Ex Home Office says:

    Sorry to be a pedant but she is not an illegal immigrant, she is an overstayer.

    An illegal immigrant is one who enters the uk clandestinely (i.e. in the back of a lorry) or who enters using false documentation.

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    South of the M4 says:

    ‘cyberia’ – is that where cyber space comes from then?

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    thatguy says:

    1. The passport shows the Tongan is illegal and the Baroness didn’t check properly
    2. The Baroness didn’t check the passport

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    The man at No 47 says:

    From the Brown Bullshit Corporation:

    A housekeeper who worked illegally for Attorney General Baroness Scotland has been arrested, police have said.

    Tongan Loloahi Tapui, 27, and a man aged 40 thought to be her husband, were arrested by UK Border Agency staff at their home in West London on Wednesday.

    Police said they were arrested over alleged immigration offences and both bailed until next month.

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    shiela - mad as hell and redundant thanks to Labour says:

    From the article:

    * There will be a referendum on voting reform at the same time as the general election. (BUT NO VOTE ON LISBON, JUST A VOTE ON ELECTORAL REFORM THAT WILL HELP LABOUR MAINTAIN MORE SEATS)

    * Britain will commit to a full network of High Speed Railways. (BUILT BY THE FRENCH WITH NO BRITISH ENGINEERING INPUT EXCEPT FOR FIRMS IN SCOTLAND)

    * Compounding what’s already been said, the PM will speak of a nuclear-free future and fully signal the intention to replace Trident with three new subs rather than four. (HIS SPEECH AT THE UN ANNOUNCING A 25% REDUCTION IN TRIDENT HAS ALREADY STARTED A CASCADE OF DELYED ORDERS FOR BRITISH COMPANIES IN EVERY CONSTITUENCY – AND AS A SUCK UP TO OBAMA FAILED MISERABLY)

    * The PM will accept the challenge thrown down by Sky News to debate David Cameron and Nick Clegg in the run up to the next election. (YES, HE REALLY IS THAT STUPID, VAIN & ARROGANT)

    * He will signal beyond doubt the date of the election. (LOVE THIS ONE – HE WILL “SIGNAL BEYOND DOUBT” THE DATE OF THE ELECTION – FFS!!!!!!!

    If he were a horse you would shoot him – as for those that still support Labour you are all stark staring bonkers in the nut.

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    English Viking says:

    I think she probably has got one of those, NOTW will reveal all.

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    Beautiful Day says:

    Luvely jubbly! Harman was vey uncomfortable defending her when being interviewed by Jane (can’trememberhername) on BBC24 earlier this week – reckon she knew then the shit would hit the fan sooner or later. I’ve got some bottles of Bishop’s Finger ready to go for the show, just right.

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    D L George says:

    Last paragraph from the Mail story…

    “The Home Office confirmed yesterday that she will also be ‘named and shamed’ on a register of employers of illegal immigrants. The list mostly contains takeaway restaurants and massage parlours.”

    It shows the level Zanu’s dropped us to, our PM gets a slot at the UN with prime nutcases I’madinnerjacket and Gaddafi and our TOP law officer is listed alongside criminals illegally importing women into brothels.

    Thanks Zanu, thanks a lot.

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    Engineer says:

    Lord Carrington tendered his resignation when the Argies invaded the Falklands, even though the subsequent investigation showed that he did not know, and could not have known about, the Argie intentions. An honourable man, still active and much respected in diplomatic circles.

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    shiela - mad as hell and redundant thanks to Labour says:

    Surely it is an Asian’s turn now?

    How about Shriti?

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    The man at No 47 says:

    And the Cyborgs.

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    Anonymous says:

    A week ago I would have said that was pretty slim, but having seen Charles Clarke last night, and Lord Mandy just now looking pretty aereated I wouldn’t be quite so sure…

    A ‘conference coup’ might well be on the cards, especially if that Manchurian Candidate Ed Miliband could be programmed to follow Mandy’s instructions..

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    infamy, they've all got it infamy says:

    Were the dying embers of the Major government this bad? There were a few sleaze stories and the electorate wanted change, but this shower are completely incompetent.

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    Praguetory says:

    Just wish I had thought of it for the Orange Hain/Scotland caption competition. Anyway, the cleaner and her husband have now been arrested.

    I expect the Baroness will be taking a very personal interest in this case?

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    Pampas Grass says:

    This ain’t right. The plod are now gathering evidence and will present it to the CPS. The Attorney General is the head of the CPS. And who is the Attorney General?

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    going mental says:

    gets my vote

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    Joe 90 says:

    Shiela (or is it Sheila?)

    From the article:

    But there’s also likely to be substance – and even a couple of new policy announcements. Here a few thoughts on what those announcements might be:


    So, you see, its all Labour hiss and piss as usual.

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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    She needs a good hard reporting to the bar councli
    Just after destroying her career

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    Papasmurf says:

    never found out the winner of that caption competition!!!!!!!! ???????

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    Chubby says:

    Inside, they’re all black female cleaners.

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    Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

    Why am I not surprised?

    Your sins (or in this case lies) will find you out, and they sure have. Resignation by midnight friday?

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    Baroness Scotland says:

    It would not be in the public interest to prosecute me

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    HR Dept says:

    I reckon that Lin Homer (Mr/Mrs?) at the Borders Agency will have a sweaty-palmed evening as well. Looks like a vacancy coming up there as her investigation of Scotland was almost as lightweight as Gus O’Donnell’s rapid assesment that she hadn’t broken the ministerial code! May be someone with a bit more oomph should have that job – I suggest Gen Jackson or Ramsbotham as interim. thinking about it, O’Donnell should be in the crosshairs as well – he has form on this kind of thing (eg “Jacqui” Smith)

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    You left your iphone on the bus?

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    Chairman of the Bored says:

    Auric Gold-Seller perhaps?

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    Purpleline says:

    What’s the betting the Husband is a Serbian spy? Known the MI5/6 and was here on forged papers.

    He could even be here under cover protecting the identity of the Serbian hit man who rubbed out Jill Dando.

    What fun even Lord Peter of foy up the U bend and round the twist could not save brown. The pound is getting whacked very hard because we have a political mess as well as a financial nightmare with a useless Hunt at the BOE.

    Get out of sterling boy’s sign up to a trading account and hedge your savings, pension and house this fucker is going down. Brown has steered the good ship Rule Britannia on the rocks.

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    Gus O'Donnell says:

    I see no conflict of interest here. The ministerial code ahs been fully complied with

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    infamy, they've all got it infamy says:

    But why does she then stand in front of the media and say that she checked the paperwork, but didn’t photocopy it?

    Surely she must have realised that the ex-cleaner would turn up and put her case across.

    Therefore slightly sceptical about this story, unless Baroness of all of Scotland is so arrogant that she thinks she can tough it out

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    Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

    The charlady’s pet hampster.

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    Baroness Sweaty says:

    It would not be in the public’s interest for me to prosecute myself.

    Move along now.

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    Bardirect says:

    He is a solicitor. Guido’s got that bit wrong. He’s on the roll – its easy to check and find a solicitor.

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    Praguetory says:

    Is this the start of a long overdue ‘crackdown’ on illegal immigrants or is it yet more political policing?

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    RabidHamster says:

    … that would still be several steps up from the way zaNU-Liabor runs the country

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    Groucho says:

    Yes and either way its a lot more serious than the inadvertent ‘technical’ breach Scotland claims it to be.

    She could be in deep shit here. Hopefully.

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    Forked tongue says:

    So the Baroness says it is a civil offence. So why do the border agency say

    Employers have had a responsibility to check the entitlement to work in the United Kingdom of all new employees since 27 January 1997, in order to establish a defence against conviction

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    Pete-s says:

    Look up Mrs Homer on Wiki and then follow links to Birmingham council 2005. Very interesting, especially her deep devotion to Labour. Oh come on. how do you think she got the job.

  126. 126
    Chairman of the Bored says:

    ..that’s why the Lady is a Tramp.

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    I used to go to a club called cyberia in soho – I met this french girl in spray on pvc trousers there.

    Being sentenced to more of that would be okay.

    The wife may be displeased though…

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    Santa says:

    Ho ho ho…………….

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    Dack Blog says:

    I thought someone did.

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    Rock Solid says:

    Everyone has missed the really big story.

    Baroness Scotland is an illegal immigrant.

    Tapui was once the Attorney General of Tonga and has been the one making all the decisions.

    She was shortly going to make female circumcision compulsory, that’s why MI5 had to cause a diversion.

    I heard this from Ahmadinijads’s Jewish toy boy.

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    Engineer says:

    Major and his government were never this bad, and remember – Major and Clarke left the economy in remarkably good shape, and improving.

    What a contrast…..

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    Papasmurf says:

    Ok All…… my Petition was rejected But there is one there now to call for the sacking of Baroness Scotland.

    Very funny that this has appeared just at this time…. methinks the door has been opened.

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    Praguetory says:

    Yep. We took that New Labour bitch out of Birmingham City Council as soon as we took control. Similar purges will be required at national level in the near future. McCarthy will be made to look like a doormouse.

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    Solutions not Problems says:

    May be she gets her legal advice form her ex-cleaner’s “husband”?. Probabaly pays cash for it too.

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    Sorry to piss in your Carlsberg, but she’s been *arrested*. You know what Hattie will say don’t you? Even though ti ain’t true? She’ll say, “Oh, I really can’t comment now because it’s sub judice….”

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    Panto Villain says:

    O yes it would!

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    KGB says:

    And the Husband being a bogus Serbian solicitor and all. Jeepers the very bedroom of our Attorney General has been bugged by the sebs.

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    The Public says:

    Oh yes it blood is.

  140. 140
    The Public says:

    y .

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    The Public says:

    We’re interested….

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    Dack Blog says:

    Hmmm… agreeing to the debate? That almost makes me suspect he thinks he’ll be gone before the election. It would be just like him to drop his ‘usurper’ in it.

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    Mandy says business as usual says:

    Peter Mandyfidler was on Sky News just now, hanging around as New Labour MP’s do among children at yet another school.. Are the Labour MP’s and Peers CRB checked to be fit people to hang around children – or is it okay for New Labour politicians to groom children (for votes)?

    Mandy says Gordon Brown was “not” snubbed by his New World Order friend, and with all the Brown troubles, Mandy said he does not want to be PM (as he smiled saying it).

    So business as usual.

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    Technical Breach says:

    I will now have a chuckle during my afternoon 3 flush dump

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    Anonymous says:

    What sort of tosser puts up a headline like this without any detail enabling verification. We all suspect its true but simply starting a rumour (which this resembles) only helps divert from the failings of Scotland. Either show us the meat or pull this item.

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    Siberian Tory says:

    Good point anon sacking Baroness Scotland after the election as part of Gordo’s cuts could be a major manifesto pledge.

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    PM Diary says:

    When’s Brown expected back from chasing Obama around Pittsburgh with his Instamatic? If he’s not been watching telly while he’s away, I wouldn’t want to be the one telling him what’s been going on.

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    Look, this is getting silly.

    I am supposed to be a libertarian, and we are supposed to think that sovereign individuals can say whatever they like about others, but not _do_ whatever they like.

    The Enemy-Class, of which “baroness” “Scotland” is a _General Staff Officer_ , is bending the _rules_ .

    These Enemy-Class droids are now frankly and openly doing what they like. They are perhaps prematurely estimating that the Wireless Tele Vision opiates, that they have been administering on purpose to Teh Masses for some years, are already working on all persons accurately. This is clearly not the case, as some people have noticed, happily.

    I am not yet saying that libertarians ought to publicly give up their non-violent philosophical stance, as regards what will need to happen to members of the Enemy Class, as and when we (libertarians) come to no-power (which will of course not happen like that at all, as it will not as we want no state-power-to-exist.) Although I have had a rant today on our blog, saying that I can no longer “stand idly by” and be….well there you are.

    These droids, who get away with all this stuff, as of now, will have to face some accounting. God measures all, and His Mills Grind Slow and Sure, but I and we have not got all the time in the world. I want to Right The World Now.

    What is to be done with “Scotland” (the peer not the country) and the Enemy Class of which she is a Staff Officer? I invite comments.

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    it's a rat trap says:

    and you’ve been caught

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    Anonymous says:

    Could some malcontents organise and break cover next week ??

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    streamfisher says:

    Thought it was highly suspicious that the Baroness had been fined 5000 pounds in double quick time, these things usually take a public enquiry which lasts just long enough for everybody to have forgotten about the issue in the first place, what a give away!. Yes New Labour we are not all complete idiots.
    Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

  152. 152
    Cyco Billy says:

    Beria was not only a vicious killer but an insatiable and murderous paedophile, whose victims had to be disinterred from his cellar and given a decent burial after the fall of the Communists. You proud still?

  153. 153
    Troughy says:

    McSnot giving the benefits of his ‘beliefs’ to UNSC right now. He’s gone an awful colour. Most gratifying.

  154. 154
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    I think the Attorney General would have to rule on whether that’s in the public interest.

    Remind me, who is the Attorney General?

  155. 155
    Anonymous says:

    Penfold – already done it – picture of her and husband with Clifford on mail website !!! Sunday’s NOTW looks most likely!!

  156. 156
    Engineer says:

    Makes forgetting to pay the Congestion Charge look pretty serious. Any spare cells in the Tower?

  157. 157
    ydnam says:

    I saw that interview too. Mandy looked the happiest and most relaxed I have seen him for years, He really is enjoying all this.

  158. 158
    Auntie Flo' says:

    Baroness Scotland is a director of the Incorporated Council of Law Reporting for England and Wales.

    I wonder if ICLR report this case…..?

  159. 159

    He is a “legal manager” – not a qualified solicitor under the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24.

  160. 160
    Troughy says:

    You need to be ‘suspended’ as well Gusbag.

  161. 161

    No he isn’t, he is a “legal manager” – not a qualified solicitor under the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24.

  162. 162
    James Gordon Brown says:

    I told you so. Remember, you heard it first from Waad Towers. It just doesn’t stack up that a barrister would be taken in by odds and ends of papers that didn’t actually amount to confirmation of a work permit.

  163. 163
    Sir William Waad says:

    Sorry, wrong pseudonym.

  164. 164

    He worked for a solicitors as a “legal manager” – not a qualified solicitor under the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24. Look below his name.

  165. 165
    Beautiful Day says:

    He knows what they’re thinking.

  166. 166
    bergen says:

    No.The Tories do sex scandals-much more entertaining and much less damaging to the rest of us.

  167. 167

    See above, not a qualified solicitor.

  168. 168
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    No no no

    I carry it with totemic pride: a cowrie shell for the modern man-about-town

    But here in my luxury air-conditioned office suite I am entrusted with a computer with keyboard, screen, internet access and even speakers too.

    To think that I would have lived to see such times.

  169. 169
    "Dorothy Goodbody" says:

    I got some local ale.

  170. 170
    Sir William Waad says:

    I hope the French do build the railways. They should work. Sorry, but we destroyed our engineering industries years ago.

  171. 171
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    They were bad in a different way. But on the whole, Aitken and Archer aside, I think the stuff the present lot get up to is more serious.

  172. 172

    He could even be here under cover protecting the identity of the Serbian hit man who rubbed out Jill Dando.

    He was on the other side. If the guy is who I think he is then he was working with western NGOs propagandising against Slobo, and for the KLA etc.

    Feller might be a lawyer, but in order to practise as a solicitor here *if* you’re from outside the EU, and serbia is, you need to work as a trainee for a year. If you don’t, you can’t take the… some kind of equivalence test, can’t recall what it is… QC something QT… dunno… anyway, if you don’t take that, which is pretty much a formality for an EUer, then you can’t call yourself a solicitor.

  173. 173
    Been there... says:

    According to the Law Society he is registered (ID 324573) and specialixes in residential conveyancing, landlord and tennant law, and trust law (how ironic).

    Hopefully the Law Society was more careful checking his documentation than his wife :)

    I imagine his expertise might come in pretty handy for all the labour troughers flipping properties.

  174. 174
    Engineer says:

    If Baroness Scotland isn’t sacked, they have to move, I would have thought. Mind you, I’ve thought this government has gone beyond the pale before, and they’ve blundered on, so who knows?

  175. 175
    Penfold says:

    Can’t have criminal gains from illegal actions….

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    Bardirect says:

    That’s not what that page says. He is a solicitor not a manager. That part of the page is a pro forma and has no actual entry. Every admitted solicitors page is precisely the same – look anyone up – Managers don’t get ADMITTED and dont have a roll number.

  177. 177
    Gordon Brown: Rocking Horse Botherer says:

    Darling, fetch me my horse.

  178. 178
    PC Spy says:

    She might be untouchable as she ticks so many boxes on the Harridan Harpic/Trevor Feelips Positive Discrimination Forms

  179. 179
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    The third possibility is that Tapui had some quite sophisticated forgeries. But if that’s true, then there would really have to be a police investigation into that. If such an investigation isn’t forthcoming, then I think we’ll have to conclude that either one or other of your 2 options is correct.

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    Article 38 says:

    Oh, joy of joys. That means she really has got a juicy story for the weekend. I imagine the bidding war from the Sundays is underway right now.

  181. 181

    If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear.
    If you have something to hide , and you have the backing of the Prime Monitor,then you may or may not have something to fear.
    if you have something to fear but nothing to hide…?

    How does this go again?

  182. 182
    j. McCarthy II says:

    Here how – 3 questions will be put to the retards. 3 yeses will prove their guilt.

    1. Is the Pope a Catholic?
    2. Do bears shit in the woods?
    3. Does the end justify the means?

  183. 183
    NuAttackDog says:

    If the stench of decay coming out NU NSDAP gets any stronger people are going to start thinking Brown has recalled John Smith to the Cabinet

  184. 184
    Master Baiter says:

    Evidently you lot are confused easily.

  185. 185
    backwoodsman says:

    Every incompetent who ever joined the labour party while a student, is now busy making a balls up of some section of our bureacracy. Why did you imagine the Borders Agency would be any different ?

  186. 186
    bergen says:

    I hope to God that Cameron does not bottle out and give the usual peerage to O’Donnell on his retirement.He’s supposed to be a Civil Servant and not Brown’s bodyguard.

  187. 187
    pool says:

    Where is this register?

  188. 188
    streamfisher says:

    Is Baroness Scotland an illegal, got a photocopy Gordon?

  189. 189
    backwoodsman says:

    Sorry, why is his ‘wife’ working as a cleaner then ?

  190. 190
    Peter Handlesmen says:

    ‘Either show us the meat or pull this item’

    Anonymous – you’re hired !

  191. 191
    OKTOBER says:


    The Lord of Darkness must be losing his grip, and possibly the will to live.

    Cheer up Mandy with this lot you cant help but shine even with a coating of green custard…

  192. 192
    Scrobs... says:


    There’s no need to bring the Olympics into this…

    They’ve got their own problems ;0)

  193. 193
    Sod 'em all says:

    All these effin’ foreigners! Why don’t they all sod off and leave the English alone? It’ll be the very death of this once fine country if we continue to be swamped by the influx of these turds who we take in out of kindness, only to find some way down the line that they’re in some way or another buggering the country to hell and back. Bring back Longshanks!

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    Justice Fingers says:

    But who claimed he was a ‘solicitor’ in the first place?

    Also, Guido, note that a ‘passport’ is just one of several documents that the Tongan lady may have shown BS to prove her right to work. Need to watch the wording carefully, here. Still room to wriggle I think.

  195. 195
    Porridge says:

    Rachel Challis, from the UK Border Agency’s Boston-based Local Immigration Team, said: “We are working hard to pull the plug on the illegal jobs which lure illegal immigrants to come to the UK in the first place.

    “Illegal working is unfair on honest employers who recruit staff with the right to work in the UK and who pay them a proper salary.

    “Employers who don’t play by the rules will get struck off our register, lose the right to recruit staff from outside Europe, face on-the-spot fines and could potentially end up in jail.”

    So how is going to jail a civil offence?

  196. 196
    OKTOBER says:


    My cover blown, already.

  197. 197
    Master Baiter says:


  198. 198
    Obama is a twat says:

    But why have NONE of the fucking Hunts in the media asked her the obvious questions? What documentation did she see? Surely a Passport with a valid Visa is the obvious one? And we know her her student Visa was the only Visa and that had expired.

    Brown is a fucking tool as are all fucking corrupt Socialists. Were Scotland not black she’d have gone long ago.

  199. 199
    Ken Lorp says:

    The gift that keeps on giving …

  200. 200
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    Number 4. (perhaps 2b)

    She had a different (legal) Tongan cleaner before and she’s confused.

  201. 201
    Alibarbs says:

    She’s already in the Lords. Just like many of the people Broon forces upon us, she’s never been democratically elected to so much as a cheese committee.

  202. 202
    Tony Blair says:

    “We must be whiter than white”

  203. 203
    Obama is a twat says:

    Arrest Damien Green right now!!!!!

  204. 204
    D L George says:

    Just running through the online press, NOTW ran a story on the 20th about the cleaner. She was said to be on £8 an hour, yet she paid £270,000 for a leashold on a property in London.

    Anyone else have the feeling we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg here?

    Makes me doubly suspicious on the extremely fast fine of £5000, when they hadn’t spoken to the cleaner and they were unable to investigate both sides of the story.

    How much do they know and what is it they’re really covering up?

  205. 205
    Alibarbs says:

    Roll on the Sunday papers – you know they’ll currently be planning the neccessary steps to crucify her. She should be sacked from the AG position and disbarred too, as she’s openly dishonest and therefore not fit to work in any area of law.

  206. 206

    She is an immigrant and she is illegal (=not legal). Can one not use the words consecutively? She is not yet an asylum seeker but one has to believe that it is only a matter of time before Max Clif…., sorry, she plays that card.

  207. 207
    Engineer says:

    Speak for yourself.

  208. 208
    Sod 'em all says:

    String her up. Demolish Bush House and build a new Traitors’ Gate on the site. It’ll be well worth it. She’s not alone and the public spectacle of a series of despatchings would really reinvigorate the country – as well as flushing out the shit.

  209. 209
    P1 says:

    Two questions:

    Did O’Donnell ask the simple, obvious, questions before he cleared Scotland under the Ministerial Code?

    Did Scotland’s hubby not take any photocopies either? Should he be fined £5,000 and eported to the Bar association as well?

  210. 210
    Alibarbs says:

    I don’t believe for a minute she’s actually been fined, as the wheels of justice never move that quickly – caught out one day and fined a couple of days later? Absolute rubbish – just more spin attempting to convince us little people that she broke the rules and was punished.

    Has anyone actually seen any documentation relating to her fine? I suspect not.

  211. 211
    NuAttackDog says:

    If Labour were a dog it would be destroyed. The dog of course would have made it clear he wanted to opt out.

  212. 212
    King Beardy says:

    made my day as well!!

  213. 213
    Oooer says:

    Baroness Scotland has two sons, the two sons live in her house, Surely the Housekeeper would have had CRB checks carried out on her and the checks would have flagged up that she was an illegal. Or is this something else the Baroness omitted to do?

  214. 214
    Been there... says:

    Guido – the disclaimer at the bottom does not necessarily apply. I checked using the names of some lawyer friends of mine and you get the same disclaimer and they are kosher.

  215. 215
    Ctesibius says:

    ‘Tennant law’ is something Scottish, I assume. I hear they drink quite a lot of cans of Tennants there

  216. 216
    Engineer says:

    Doesn’t wash. One of the most senior law officers in the land being confused between two cleaners suggests a lack of basic competence.

  217. 217
    varsteiner says:

    It’s all coming out of the woodwork now – and it’s tongan groove.

  218. 218
    Anonymous says:

    Oh fuck off Jonty – no one cares about your dull offerings. Even your buddies at Labourlist have cut you loose – don’t you have anything better to do, or have you got some kind of fixation with this place?

    Let it go!

  219. 219
    Praguetory says:

    What an enriching tale…

  220. 220
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Just seen the update … this just gets better and better

    What next? The guy’s wanted by the chaps in The Hague as an indicted war criminal?

  221. 221
    Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

    Aitkin, the Hamiltons and Archer were mere amateurs at this stuff.

    That is one thing the LieBour party are REALLY good at is behaving appallingly, and never ever EVER resigning.

  222. 222
    Good buy Lady B ... says:

    Went there – Max Clifford’s in the pic – this guarantees the Sundays will be bidding for the real story

    No Pisspot? What an inderstatement?

    Max – you are a star – how does he do it?

  223. 223
    Special Case says:

    It doesn’t happen like that in the reaL world does it. Their first action would be to slap an on the spot penalty notice on her, which then would have given her 28 days to reply, thgen they would have investigated her reply, then she would have been given 28 days to decide whether she accepted their fine or go to court. This is one helll of a special case.

  224. 224
    Troughy says:

    Are they thinking what we’re thinking?

  225. 225
    Been there... says:

    Sorry – meant Scotland, not wife…

  226. 226
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry I take all that back

  227. 227

    I have read a statement elsewhere the Pat said she had seen the Passport. If Tapui denies showing it to our Pat that is those most damaging claim of all. Pat’s word against Tapui’s – pretty strightforward really. BS – “it was an error when I said I had seen her Passport what I meant to say was that I imagined I had seen her Passport”.

    If Tapui comes out and says she deines showing the Passport Patsy is toast. Even GB couldn;t wriggle her out this time.

  228. 228
    Engineer says:

    And Gordoom’s screwed….

  229. 229

    “‘Either show us the meat or pull this item’”

    Said the Business Sec to to the Brazilian.

  230. 230
    Smithers.. says:

    All hounds released Sir !

  231. 231

    Too late, your cover’s blown Prime Minister.

  232. 232
    MandelHop says:

    Did someone call?

  233. 233
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    I was too soft. I pulled the punchline. Based on a common saying in the 1970s that one never hears anymore, even if it might be true that often people have difficulty in distinguishing certain people’s facial features if they aren’t used to them.

  234. 234

    The Baroness maintains that she was initially shown five different categories of paperwork: a passport; a P45 form from her previous employer; national insurance details; a number of references from past employers and the letter apparently from the Home Office.

    She then asked for the cleaner’s marriage certificate, which confirmed that Mrs Tapui-Zivancevic’s husband, Alexander, is a British national.

    Was she shown the Passport or not. If she was she must be amazingly thick if she couldn’t spot only an expired student visa.

  235. 235
    chronic says:

    The number of swine flu cases is directly proportional to damaging Government news stories.

  236. 236
    The big D says:

    What prevents anyone from surmising that the cleaner may be persuaded to be the fall guy (gal) in exchange for a very well filled paper bag containing bits of paper with ” I promise to pay the bearer….etc?

  237. 237
    Anonymous says:

    UPDATE : There are questions as to the status and paperwork for Alexander Zivancevic. UKBA having problems establishing his right to residence. Oh dear…

    Will the firm that employed Mr Zivancevic be treated as leniently as the Baroness

  238. 238
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    S othe rumour is true, then.

  239. 239
    Hutton says:

    I did my best to help you

  240. 240
    Dick Emery's Cock says:

    gets quite heated …

  241. 241
    It's all Balls says:

    Did she get the mortgage from Northern Rock – 20 times income would do it

  242. 242
    The BBC - doing what we do best says:

    “Well Nick so it appears that the cleaner didn’t actually produce a passport to Baroness Scotland then ?”

    “So it seems – Jon – but I have it in confidence from sources high up in government that this is not as straight forward as it appears and that Baroness Scotland in fact does recall seeing the documentation despite Ms Tapui saying she didn’t so all in all Gordon Brown still has confidence in her!”

    “And Nick it certainly casts doubts on how the Conservatives have responded to this news to-day doesn’t it ?”

    “I think you’re absolutely right Jon – the pressure is building on David Cameron and the Conservatives tonight to come clean about what they would do about the situation were THEY in government! “

  243. 243
    Bardirect says:

    If the actual passport showed an expired visa or an express prohibition about working, Scotland would no doubt suggest that she was shown something different wouldn’t she but as she took no copies she will not normally be regarded as a good witness about what she actually saw.

  244. 244
    Jeez .... says:


    ‘Kinell – I fergot – QT!

    Wont fall asleep 2 night

  245. 245
    South of the M4 says:

    She’ll be decked.

  246. 246
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    All the other “distractions”, which will have to be dealt with by the longest composite motion in even Labour’s history.

  247. 247
    Master Baiter says:

    Oaf, your slip is showing.

  248. 248
    Engineer says:

    Not entirely, Sir William. The rail infrastructure capacity still exists, but our ability to design and build locomotives and rolling stock is seriously reduced.

  249. 249
    Mad Max says:

    So Max Clifford is involved. I wonder what dirt the cleaner has on the Baroness?

  250. 250
    Mondeoman says:

    Unfortunately, we are still short of the killer blow, what does it take to get him to resign and would it force an election? He is an embarrassment, each day our reputation declines. The men in suits should be taking him aside a telling the truth, your time is up.

  251. 251
    Anonymous says:

    Oaf, so thick, so thick.
    Try reading English
    “‘Non-Lawyer’ and ‘Lawyer’ are defined in the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24. ‘Manager’ means a) a partner in a partnership; b) a member of an LLP; or c) a director of a company.”

  252. 252
    Justice Fingers says:

    The difference is in the ‘knowingly’ versus ‘unknowingly’ parts.

    If the Tongan is claiming that BS saw her passport and it only contained an out of date student visa stamp then that starts to look like evidence that BS employed her ‘knowing’ her to be an illegal, and she would slip across from one to the other and be looking at a 6 month jail sentence.

    But there are other documents that BS may be claiming to have seen other than the passport.

  253. 253
    Steve Expat says:

    No chance! Maybe someone will give you 4/9 if you’re very lucky?

  254. 254
    Fair's fair says:

    UPDATE : There are questions as to the status and paperwork for Alexander Zivancevic. UKBA having problems establishing his right to residence. Oh dear…

    I trust the firm that employed him will be treated as firmly and promptly as the Baroness.

  255. 255
    Thats News says:

    Oh, dear.

    It gets worse…

  256. 256
  257. 257
    Baroness Scotland says:

    They all look the same to me.

  258. 258
    Troughy says:

    Hope it’s not so much NuLab jamb tomorrow…

  259. 259
    Master Baiter says:

    Oaf, so thick, so thick.
    Try reading English
    “‘Non-Lawyer’ and ‘Lawyer’ are defined in the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24. ‘Manager’ means a) a partner in a partnership; b) a member of an LLP; or c) a director of a company.”

    The man is a solicitor and that is that.

    Not a pizza delivery boy with a whining voice and a big fat pot belly.
    Ask the breadwinner in your house, she’ll know.

  260. 260
    Engineer says:

    Or nailed.

  261. 261
    NuAttackDog says:

    for Brown to resign we’d need nothing short of youtube footage of him sodomizing the Presidents dog on the Whitehouse Lawn.

  262. 262
    kINELL says:





  263. 263
    Jan says:

    Guido as to his right to be in the UK.Register of Births Oct-Dec 1968 shows one Aleksander Zivancevik was born in Hammersmith.Not sure if this him.

  264. 264
    Unemployed Engineer says:

    Who the fucks “we”.

  265. 265
    tat says:

    gus o’donnell is a war criminal.
    if I were in charge he would be hanging from his neck.
    following due legal process ofcourse.

  266. 266
  267. 267
    Mitch says:


  268. 268
    Bardirect says:

    She only did family work.

  269. 269
    Steve Expat says:

    Oh Dear, oh dear, oh dear….

    Petition signed, let’s all tell everyone British we know, this could go viral by tonight…

  270. 270

    He did do the honourable thing over the Falklands, but let’s never forget that it was Carrington who put Mugabe in charge in Rhodesia, and look what that’s led to?

  271. 271
    Mitch says:

    Hello the Bahama’s

  272. 272
    The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    In the looking glass world of Neolabour I would be deeply disppointed if the Attorney General wasn’t of course a lying, law breaking twat.
    This news is highly reassuring.

    Arrest that Attorney General officer!

  273. 273
    pierre says:

    Your joking = where what (the fuck) jeez tell us now kniell

  274. 274
    Anonymous says:

    presumably Scotland will appear on this page eventually (last updated on 22nd)

  275. 275
    Scarlet Pimpernel says:

    As far as the Law Society thinks Alexander Zivancevic is a solicitor, Law Society ID no. 324573, admission date 3rd October 2005 (source Law Society website )

  276. 276
    Olly boy says:

    Can things get any worse?! HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

  277. 277
    Dr When says:

    and the Cyber Men

  278. 278
    shiela - mad as hell and redundant thanks to Labour says:

    Did Baroness Scotland employ any indigenous anglo saxon British workers?

  279. 279
    D L George says:

    Good question.

    As it’s Zanu inspired red tape, it’s…

    a) likely to be hidden away
    b) for the eyes of certain council officials only
    c) a+b = An absolute waste of time and money (as would be expected from these playground politicos)

  280. 280
    HM says:

    And in black and white it says.

    ‘Where illegal workers are knowingly employed we will take action, and employers could face a criminal prosecution or a civil penalty.

    ‘The wider investigation is ongoing.

  281. 281
    Gooey Blob says:

    Scotland should have gone by now. Allowing her to stay on for this long to stretch out the embarrassment shows just how out-of-touch Peter Mandelson is.

    Mandelson is damaging the government every day he remains part of it. He’s the reason why half of Labour’s own supporters no longer believe what the government says.

    Mandelson must go, and the sooner the better.

  282. 282
    Roger Daley says:

    “Look” – It started with Caroline Flint.

  283. 283
    Harriet's ho says:

    Harriet’s on QT?

  284. 284
    UNSC says:

    We were just thinking what colour we’d like on the tail of our Learjets. What were you thinking?

  285. 285
    bloke with nadgers says:

    They can charge you for having a blocked up nose now?

  286. 286
    Anonymous says:

    there is a god!

  287. 287
    Steve Expat says:

    Sky news saying cleaner has been arrested, presumably for being here illegally – no word on Scotland though, source?

  288. 288
    tat says:

    will that do?

  289. 289
    Lord Lundy says:

    A quart of the best Lidl orange juice and 5 Hamlet. Can’t wait.

  290. 290
    Master Baiter's mum. says:

    Look. I’ve bought you a bin for your tissues. Use it.

  291. 291
    The big D says:

    I still reckon they will pay the cleaner off, to take the rap. Especially if the cleaner’s only alternative is to go for a country walk in the footsteps of David Kelly.

    Strange how Mr Campbell is rejoining Labour at about the same time.

  292. 292
    PJ says:

    I heard this from a man on a 38 bus to Charing Cross – and I didn’t believe it

    What a sorry fool I am – Thank you

  293. 293
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Quite agree. Was it the Border Agency or Special Branch who raided her flat and what were they looking for.

  294. 294
    Missing Hammy says:

    The hamster is awol

    Where’s Richard Gere when you want him?

  295. 295
    Airey Belvoir says:

    And she only ‘took steps’ to check the ‘documents’ – so those weasel words will get her off the hook for lying, as she will argue tha ”taking steps’ to check is not the same as actually checking.

  296. 296
    Ctesibius says:

    She’s not there in her own name. but I noticed in the London and South East section there’s a ‘Highlands Tandoori’. Perhaps that was her maiden name?

  297. 297
    Anonymous says:

    Just seen Brown on Sky News.
    Ye Gods! He looks bloody awful. No neck, curious bags halfway down his face. Hair not brushed. What a mess.
    Standing next to Obama, it’s embarassing!

  298. 298
    Master Baiter says:

    Guidiot the Oaf is wrong, again

    ‘Non-Lawyer’ and ‘Lawyer’ are defined in the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24. ‘Manager’ means a) a partner in a partnership; b) a member of an LLP; or c) a director of a company.

    What a washout!

  299. 299
    Bardirect says:

    His law society entry shows that he’s a UK qualified and admitted solicitor not a registered foreign or european qualified lawyer.

  300. 300
    Aethelred says:

    Archer was merely a twat, his crime was to lie under oath about paying a prostitute. If he had just admitted it, there’d have been no problem (other than his wife).

    Compared to nulabour, Archer looks like the pope.

  301. 301
    tat says:

    mandelson and brown are placing the EU’s interest’s above the national interest.
    they are traitors who should be hanged.
    bugger off mandelson you rimmer. like blair you are not welcome in this country.
    note to mandelson: if I ever see you in the street I will spit in your face you whore.

  302. 302
    Steve Expat says:

    It would be funny to see this drag on into the Liebour conference next week. It’s unlikely Broon will sack her until Saturday as he’s out of the country – apparantly he likes to do these things face to face (or Nokia to face, delete as appropriate) ;-)

  303. 303
    Pro Bourne says:



  304. 304
    The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    Can anything be more demeaning to the UK than this hate filled, bullying, twisted, inadequate, lying, brooding loony chasing Obama around like a fucking stalker?

  305. 305
    Max Payout 4 meeeeeeeee says:

    Max Clifford


    I cannot see the man or hear his voice without thinking of gren noxious slime.

  306. 306
    Mitch says:

    she’s wolfing some of Heston’s ‘cooked’ chicken as we speak

    expect a no-show

  307. 307
    NED says:

    Thanks for that link, seems that the going rate is 5k per illegal.

    I wonder what name the attorney general will use? Labour women seem to like using their maiden name, what is hers?

  308. 308
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Not sure how that would help them get out of this. What would Tapui be paid to say, exactly? Even if she says she showed her passport, it still doesn’t explain why Scotland didn’t notice that it didn’t give her the right to work here.

  309. 309
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Fonddlebum IS the Dear Leader. he has a puppet called Gordo who sits on his knee and says crazy things.

  310. 310
    D L George says:

    That wouldn’t make him resign.
    McMad would bring in Millibrain who’d bring in Hillary to declare He’d “missf*cked”.

  311. 311
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    I really hope you’re right about that, but I suspect you’re making it up, aren’t you?

  312. 312
    Mitch says:

    Guess what, guys………… mention on Beeb

  313. 313
    Anonymous says:

    This one wins

  314. 314
    Sir William Waad says:

    It’s time to give the baroness a bottle of finest Dominican Rum (the Belfast Red Cap) and a pistol to take with her on a stroll in the woods.

  315. 315
    anonymouse says:

    How can the UKBA fine the Baroness if they didn’t have any evidence. Now the cleaner has been arrested they should have a copy of the passport and paperwork. It will be interesting to see what is in it.

    She did of course claim that she had seen a letter from the Home Office; easily available at any corner shop forging department.

  316. 316
    Troughy says:

    Murderous thoughts of course.

  317. 317
    English Liberation Front says:

    What do you think? The police are now effectively the armed wing of the New Labour party.

  318. 318
    Anonymous says:

    At birth

  319. 319
    Engineer says:

    Spit in his face?

    What’s wrong with your usual greeting, splitting of the skull?

    And why didn’t you call him a cripple?

  320. 320
    Groucho says:

    Yes, you’re right. What a stitch up. I note from Guido’s latest update that Ms Tanui’s bloke has also been nicked. So now he is unavailable for comment, too.

  321. 321
    jgm2 says:

    ‘took steps’ doesn’t even mean she saw them.

    Could mean she asked to see them and forgot. Could mean anything she wants it to mean. This kind of deliberately ambiguous speech just comes naturally to Labour politicians doesn’t it?

    You think they’ve answered the question but when you go back and look at the wording it has indeed been carefully crafted to mean nothing at all but with just the right emphasis to let you think they’ve been quite clear.

    Tony Blair was the same.

    Brown, by contrast is just a fantacist. He just decides how he’d like things to be and declares that is what is happening.

  322. 322
    Master Baiter says:

    tat’s on Seroxat, which explains the blandness

  323. 323
    Ctesibius says:

    Yes. But if he’s standing next to President Omaha… he’s happy. Even if it’s just doing the washing-up.

  324. 324
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    But we don’t know because the Author of the Act didn’t follow her own law and take photocopies.

  325. 325
    Stupid is as stupid does. says:

    oh has anyone looked up the cleaner and husband’s facebook page? hysterical.

  326. 326
    WobblyJim says:

    or a terra-alert to fill up the propaganda bandwidth

  327. 327
    There there says:

    Rough as a badgers arse – been up all night – practicing one-eyed juggling of nokias

  328. 328
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    I spy a Foyboy plant, helping Gordon to the lectern and slipping the blade between his ribs.

    Watch him like a hawk for his Foy favouring moves.

    Of course I might be simply living up to my name.

  329. 329
    Mr Ned says:

    We need 645 sturdy trees and plenty of strong rope.

    Then we can renew the Commons for real. We should only elect people who are willing to abide by our own Bill of Rights and our sovereign constitution, whereby our individual soveriegnty resides in the monarch who expresses OUR sovereignty internationally on our behalf!

  330. 330
    Ctesibius says:

    Link please?

  331. 331
    Groucho says:

    He’s quite a big bloke you know. He could probably have you for breakfast.

  332. 332
    jgm2 says:

    I thought a British court had already ruled that a Manifesto Pledge does not amount to a hill of beans legally.

    And since Labour have much form on reneging on the clearest of manifesto pledges then I don’t suppose folk will be too taken in by the piece of shit they produce for the 2010 election.

  333. 333
    Beautiful Day says:

    I’ve got this image in my head of the new Virgin advert – our supreme Gordoom arrives at the airport on the arms of Virgin stewardesses to catch his return flight, 300 passengers storm the desks screaming I need to change my airline. Must be a 12 year old somewhere who can do it and put it on youtube before bedtime.

  334. 334
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Good afternoon TaT.

    Would you kindly tell us which of the following three activities gives you
    more pleasure.

    1. Having a Wank.
    2. Smashing Skulls.
    3. Reading this thread.

    Personally I prefer No.3.

  335. 335
    shelling-out says:

    But it’s very lucrative green noxious slime.

  336. 336
    Master Baiter says:

    jgm2 in this case the fantasist is Guidiot Oaf

    what a prat fall he’s made, again

    read the words Guidiot, read the words

  337. 337
    Deeply Regret says:

    The end started 2 years ago when, during the Tory party conference, Brown popped up in Afghanistan and played cheap politics with troop numbers.

    We are now watching the end of the end.

  338. 338
    Mitch says:

    are you sure?

    have you ‘seen and verified’ their papers? (This is modern Britian you see)

  339. 339
    English Liberation Front says:

    You’re back are you Brigstocke, poking your ugly commie wedge-head where it’s not wanted? Damage control for the comrades eh?

    Master Baiter = tosser

  340. 340

    No he isn’t. He is a “legal manager” if you read to the bottom.

  341. 341
    Groucho says:

    He is now as hard to get rid of as Rasputin. Poison him, shoot him and throw him in a freezing river and the bugger still won’t die.

  342. 342
    Peter Mandelson says:

    I’d have him before breakfast. I like to start the day with something warm in my stomach.

  343. 343
    shelling-out says:

    If he’s practising, he must be here legally, and if he’s here legally and they’re married, wouldn’t that make her legal too?

  344. 344
    Sick of the Greed says:

    also signed.

  345. 345
    Ctesibius says:

    Is the Baroness then an ‘illegal manager’?

  346. 346
    Troughy says:

    With James Gordon Cotter and the lovely Ella on tour, who’s turn is it to record the country’s vital signs on the chart

  347. 347
  348. 348
    Baroness Scotland says:

    Look here – how could I photocopy a pisspot that was out of date and proved that my cheep black Tongan slave-person was an illegal immigrant?

    Don’t be silly – have a heart -c’mon

    ps I have not been arrested (yet)

  349. 349
    Master Baiter says:

    google the name moron

  350. 350
  351. 351
    WobblyJim says:

    He probably just extracted his person from Obama’s ring-piece, only to discover that he’s left his comb and mobile-phone behind.

  352. 352
    English Liberation Front says:

    Confused but not deceived unfortunately for you commie wedge-headed propaganda tosser.

  353. 353
    Trev says:

    FO official faces sack for saying FO Israel (Any SUN sub editors listening?)

  354. 354
    shelling-out says:

    We got a better class of trougher back then.

  355. 355
    Lil' ol' Misssy Shitty says:

    Is it cos’ I is effnic ?

    Or is it ‘cos I fink Gorgon is da Main Man roun’ ‘ere ?

    Or is it ‘cos I is cleva, ‘n that ?

    Anyways, – I has de lavvy seat to wash

  356. 356
    jgm2 says:


    She’s not an Idi Amin tribute act. Scotland is her surname.

  357. 357
    Anonymous says:

    perhaps it’s Zivancevic too, nothing would surprise me in this mess.

  358. 358
    The cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    and the Feds for a giant Ponzi scheme

  359. 359
    Captain Haddock says:

    The charlady’s mop …

  360. 360
    Bardirect says:

    The “Find a Solicitor” search does not lead you to the tens of thousands of unqualified people who work for solicitors but who call themselves “legal managers” – it brings up those who have a current practising certificate.

    He has no business address. Since permanent solicitor employees usually show up under a firms entry he is probably a temp or locum.

  361. 361
    I thank you ... says:


    where is it Guido?

  362. 362
    shelling-out says:

    Nah. I reckon he knew he wouldn’t have a job come next May and needed to sort out his future before the shit hit the fan.

  363. 363
    D L George says:

    Oh hang on, it’s here…

    She’s not there though apparently, it’s only updated quarterly. According to the UK border agency, here real name is Patricia Mawhinney. Might be worth checking in a few months.

  364. 364
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    You know, even if you think you haven’t got a distinctive accent, you have.

    So no more phone call japes for your.

  365. 365

    Great work, Guido! I hope this story runs and runs.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I simply don’t believe Baroness Scotland’s version of events. I don’t believe that she simply “forgot” to take copies of the documentation.

    As I’ve said before, wouldn’t you think that if you were the Attorney General and married to a prominent barrister, you would take extra special care to ensure that the people working for you were in the country legally?

    Round here (in Washington DC) all the cleaners are illegal and everybody knows this. However, those working in government departments or for those in the government do need the right documentation. If this had happened over here, a resignation would have come immediately.

  366. 366
    Ctesibius says:

    Given your inanities I take that as a compliment

  367. 367
    innit says:

    This site is dedicated to rumour and tittle-tattle – have a look at the top right hand corner.

  368. 368
    The Pedant says:

    I was told/ticked off for not knowing. Its Scotland. And I’m still not sure….

  369. 369
    NuAttackDog says:


  370. 370
    WobblyJim says:

    don’t forget the pen-knife with the blunt blade

  371. 371
    Mondeoman says:

    Does he use a comb? Does he know how to tie a tie? He looks a mess.

  372. 372
    Old Sea Dog to M'Lud BlackUdder says:

    And he has a WOMAN’S hands my Lord

  373. 373
    The Pedant says:

    crossed in post…

  374. 374
    Mitch says:

    tut tut, what would his father say?

  375. 375
    Bully Beef says:

    She only SAID that she’d been fined.

    She didn’t even wave a cheque around like the chipmunk Blears.

  376. 376
    udderly 'orrible says:

    He’s on the books of the Law Society.

    Find a solicitor
    ID: 324573
    Admission Date: 03/10/2005
    Higher Rights of Audience: No
    Registered Foreign Lawyer: No
    Registered European Lawyer: No
    Insolvency Practitioner: No
    Languages: Italian
    Areas of law: Conveyancing residential
    Landlord and tenant – residential
    Trust law

  377. 377
    It's a funny old world says:

    Not to worry. As soon as the Irish vote yes and the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by the Czechs he’ll be gone and so will Brown and then the path is clear for Blair to become EU President and Mandelson his “Chef du Cabinet”. You’d think Brown would have learnt from the “Granita Experience” – Tony is still Peter’s best friend not Gordon

  378. 378
    albacore says:

    I thought Harman was doing an Alf Ippititimus impression in that interview.
    Wonder if she’ll be wagging Dimbleby his orders tonight; and which of the two of them will be the more panicked.

  379. 379
  380. 380
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Yes indeed. And anyway, if she really did check the documentation, as she says she did, then she would have known that Tapui was here illegally.

  381. 381
    Scarlet Pimpernel says:

    That is the atandard form that appers after all results. It appears after mine and I know I’m a solicitor

  382. 382
    Master Baiter says:

    How thick a Guidiot is this Oaf?

    The man is a solitictor it doesn’t say he’s a manager, can’t the Oaf read?

    Pithless prattling from Guidiot, dreadful tosh.

  383. 383
    Damian Green MP says:

    Why hasn’t Baroness Scotland been arrested by armed anti-terrorist police, and her office searched?

    I thought Brown was into Fairness™.

  384. 384
    English Liberation Front says:

    No, that can’t be right because it links to Master Baiter’s facebook page.

    Master Baiter (aka moron) is the well known wedge-headed, deeply unfunny communist apologist for the criminal Brown and his disgustingly traitorous closet-Marxist regime.

  385. 385
    Bully Beef says:

    You are Bono and I claim my £5.

    On expenses.

  386. 386
    shelling-out says:

    ….even if he is a temp or locum, surely he must have a practising certificate. Can you get one if you are only in the UK temporarily?

  387. 387
    Mitch says:

    They’re off long term sick

  388. 388
    Bardirect says:

    “Day of the Jackal” anyone?

  389. 389
    udderly 'orrible says:

    He’s on the Law Society register – check it yourself
    ID: 324573 Admission Date: 03/10/2005

  390. 390 or me? says:

    Master Baiter,

    Your party is deep in the shit.

    Guido’s few mistakes here or there in context and defintion won’t change that or decrease his popularity.

  391. 391
    Steve Expat says:

    Offtopic but potentially explosive.

    Iain Dale has a story though his contacts about a political book being released and serialised tomorrow – with no further details and an embargo of even the title from booksellers.

    Could be an interesting week in Brighton coming up ;-)

  392. 392
    Master Baiter says:

    Guidiot the Oaf knows that in fact you are a double agent.

    A ha!

  393. 393
    Mitch says:

    and throw in a dash of jet-lag to REALLY improve his mood

  394. 394
    shelling-out says:

    Blimey. Does this mean he has the right to live here permanently, then?

  395. 395
    It's all Balls says:

    Haruumph! The only ‘ness’ Brown believes in lives in a Loch in Scotland

  396. 396
    Captain Haddock says:

    Especially if McDoom is involved in any way, shape or form .. Hee hee ..

  397. 397
    Ctesibius says:

    I don’t mind abuse from someone who abuses himself

  398. 398
    Roger Daley says:

    “spills sex wee”

  399. 399
    shelling-out says:

    Maybe the £5000 was what it cost her to get British Citizenship, if the comments above are true.

  400. 400
    Chief Engineer says:

    Gordon doesn’t like Engineering.

    As he took 6 years to get a PhD (subject of the Scottish Labour Party 1926 to 1928) very demanding ! he told his academic friends not to go into Manufacturing, because as he put it, it’s dirty and you have to get up early.

    Later he put these thoughts into practice by declaring Engineering a Sunset Industry with no future and therefore put his faith in Wankers (sorry Bankers).

    Now we have almost no industry and no engineers, and unfortunately to be an engineer you need to be able to do hard sums. So education, edukashun, edewkajun took care of that. Most of the peoples now struggle with anything beyond a footy score,

    So that’s alright for Mandlebum and all. Simples !

  401. 401
    chronic says:

    I know ” cripple ” is one of tats favourite put down words but after watching Wounding last night I would urge him to reconsider his vocabulary of intended insults as the two ” cripples ” depicted in this documentary demand more respect than his juvenile name calling.

  402. 402
    Deeply Regret says:

    The Mugabe of 1980 came across as a very different man and Carrington’s options at the time were limited. Just like the Falklands, he did not know, and could not have known about Mugabe’s intentions. I am sure he could have guessed though…

  403. 403
    Onan the Rotarian says:

    Except for the fact that the Mail or NOTW will equally be prepared to dish out similarly large bags of promissory notes, plus all the talk show fees, photo opps etc etc. Deportation anyone? Or a short walk in the woods ….

  404. 404
    Bardirect says:

    There’s no basis to infer that HE is only here temporarily, its an annual certificate , he’s had it since last November and he must also have been up to date with his CPD. There are thousand of solicitors who now work as temps and locums, indeed Mrs Bardirect does so.

  405. 405
    Mitch says:

    not necessarily

  406. 406
    Thunderbox says:

    Patricia Scotland perverting the course of Justice? This could be NewLiebour’s ‘Archer’ moment. She can share a cell in Holloway with that Udin woman. No leather seats for their fat expense fed butts.

  407. 407
    shelling-out says:

    …or dear old Geoffrey. He was always good for a few hundred thousand or so.

  408. 408
    It's a funny old world says:

    “Round here (in Washington DC)……………….”

    You’ve obviously made the mistake in thinking that the UK is actually governed by competent people with integrity or that they actually care a toss what the electorate say or think. BARONESS(the clue is in the title)Scotland was NEVER elected to any office she was appointed by Brown

  409. 409
    Captain Haddock says:

    ‘Ello Mr Draper .. nice to see you still keep up with Guido ..

    Are we ALL to become MP’s or Peers then ? ..

    As that is what would need to happen if we were all to be “under-worked” to death ..

  410. 410
    Master Baiter says:

    English Liberation Front, thick name, thick nature, job done, now do please, please go back to frothing there’s a good trollop.

  411. 411
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    387: who? God?

  412. 412

    Did you read below that – it says clearly he is not a solicitor you turnip.

  413. 413
    Purpleline says:

    Looks like he is now fucked as well as Scotland.

  414. 414

    How many times do I have to tell you twats – he ain’t a solicitor, nor is he on the register. That is a listing for a legal manager who is not a solicitor. READ THE FUCKING FULL ENTRY.

  415. 415
    The Baroness Sleaze says:

    Ha – just as I thought. …..

    Do you think they hoodwinked each other? Marrying, and believing they will get citizenship from each other, and not knowing that they both have forged papers!!

  416. 416

    If there’s too much dirt then she was probably sacked for being a crap cleaner!

    If Max is involved than expect her to be on the front page of one of the Sundays – how convenient for Liebour’s conference next week….!!

  417. 417
    Anonymous says:

    Polynesian actually. No negress she.

  418. 418
    English teacher says:

    Too fucking right!

  419. 419
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Er…. I fear that the section reading…

    “Type of manager

    This information shows the status of managers who are not solicitors. The status may be ‘non-lawyer manager’ or a number of types of ‘lawyer manager’. ‘Non-Lawyer’ and ‘Lawyer’ are defined in the Solicitors’ Code of Conduct, Rule 24. ‘Manager’ means a) a partner in a partnership; b) a member of an LLP; or c) a director of a company.”

    …is not determinative of an individual’s status as a solicitor. A quick check of 3 people I know to be practising solicitors shows they have this garbage in the box under their names, roll numbers and practising addresses…

  420. 420
    jgm2 says:

    Are you saying Master Baiter is talking shit?

  421. 421
    Bardirect says:

    Presumably its text which has been introduced to deal with alternative business structures where non lawyers may become directors etc and might fall within the non qualified definition of manager in Rule 24, in which case those individuals will be identified as such not as admitted solicitors with a roll number.

  422. 422
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    now now, Mr Fawkes

    You appear in danger of becoming… cross

  423. 423
    shelling-out says:

    In a couple of years some little known director will make a film about that, and get rich.

  424. 424
    jgm2 says:

    ‘Green Card’ gone wrong?

    Oh that would be too funny.

  425. 425
    jgm2 says:

    Hey? What happened to the post I was replying to?

  426. 426
    Bardirect says:

    and er wrong.

  427. 427
    D L George says:

    Weird. On the Dale site people are saying they the link comes up 404. Yet the link On the Dale site has been removed.

    Search on Google and you can see the link to Dales site with the phrase “It’s still on the publishers’ website at…”. Click on the link and there’s no such text. Unfortunately, Google hasn’t got a cache page for it either.

    Someone’s going hell for leather keeping this quiet.

  428. 428
    Engineer says:

    Even under Mugabe’s rule, Zimbabwe was a pretty decent country for over a decade. Don’t think you can really pin that one on Carrington. We can never know what the other available options would have been like.

  429. 429
    The sun is shining says:

    What a glorious day!

    The markets have all dumped which has put the only dampner on this story.

    Oh but to see milady bite the pillow for that one eyed Scottish idiot will be most satisfying.

    What a lovely evening, the sun is shining….

  430. 430
  431. 431
    Mongrel says:

    Shurely you mean shiter than shite?

  432. 432
    Fuck the British Government says:

    Does Gooey Blob refer to the shit between your ears?
    Surely the daily damage done to the government by the Slimy Slug is to be admired and encouraged.
    PM for PM. That’ll help ensure, come next GE, the cnunts aka Liebore won’t creep back into power. In Mandelson’s case through the back door.

  433. 433 or me? says:

    ”Can you get one if you are only in the UK temporarily?”

    In ZanuLabour UK anything is possible.

  434. 434
    Anonymous says:

    The Tyburn tree of course no longer exists but there is a large limestone edifice which might do, not far from where the Tyburn tree was

  435. 435
    Captain Haddock says:

    I’d like to see McDoom go the colour referred to in the London Ambulance Service as “Purple Plus” ..

  436. 436
    Master Baiter says:

    Hey Guidiot, check the full entry of anyone who is known to be a solicitor e.g. Jonathan Djanogly MP and shadow solicitor general and you will find the same spiel at the bottom.
    What’s the matter?
    Too much coffee?

    Either way, wrong, again, beetroot.

  437. 437
    Mongrel says:

    Mr Ned I think we need about 1200 trees or lamp posts, as there are 1386 bods in the two Houses of Parliament put together, and no more than 200 of them are clean.

  438. 438
    bloke with nadgers says:

    and the cyber pass

  439. 439
    Carl de Lippe says:

    This is true. Most people only seem to remember the Election That Never Was, but the fatal moment was during that cynical trip to Iraq (not Afghanistan, I think).

  440. 440
    tipple says:

    It’ll be women only cyber-sex in Cyberia.

  441. 441
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Publication moved forward from November to tomorrow

  442. 442
    English Viking says:


    V. funny!

  443. 443 or me? says:

    Master Baiter cheer up old son

    your mascara’s running.

  444. 444
    RavingMad says:

    *****BREAKING NEWS*****

    The bbc have just announced that there are double the numbers of swine flu victims (addicts) ths week than there were last week – about 9000. People are being warned to stay in and blow therir noses in private. The panic has begun………

  445. 445
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    I’ve checked 4 more people, qualified practising solitors all, and it’s the same every time…

  446. 446
    Mongrel says:

    Yes, mr host, I think it might say something alongside “Type of Manager” if he wasn’t a solicitor. Might not be for much longer, though, if he has been aiding and abetting an illegal immigrant to work without papers. Did anyone ever discover which papers the Baroness didn’t photocopy? Reminds me of all the farmers being paid by the EU for not raising pigs or growing crops.

  447. 447
    Mandy says:

    Yes dear Geoffrey, always good for a loan.

  448. 448
    Anonymous says:

    Master Baiter go play with your tool
    you tool

  449. 449
    tipple says:

    Must be like that snake with the weird leg they found the other week. Now we know why Gordo grimaces so often.

  450. 450

    Master Baiter says:
    September 24, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    How thick a Guidiot is this Oaf?

    The man is a solitictor it doesn’t say he’s a manager, can’t the Oaf read?

    Pithless prattling from Guidiot, dreadful tosh.
    What a terminal anus you are Master Baiter !

  451. 451
    Anonymous says:

    A legal executive is someone who has taken the solicitors exams but has not been articled, whether a legal manager is the same I don’t know names seem to change all the time but do the same job

  452. 452
    Anon says:

    It’s a point made for two hours now but falling on deaf ears.

  453. 453
  454. 454
    Mongrel says:

    Sorry Mr F you are wrong – I have looked up 4 mates who are solicitors and they all have this bit below. Don’t give the trolls the satisfaction of being right – it gives them the chance to forget that they are wrong all day and every day on pretty much every other subject.

  455. 455

    Anything to distract attention from Broon and Scotland…

  456. 456
    Anonymous says:

    Mr F

    Why don’t you try looking up any solicitor you know on the same website as this character appears? Notice anything? Ooh, yes – every one of them has the ‘manager’ listing on their entry…Notice anything else? Like the fact that the space next to ‘manager’ is blank…for the very simple reason that the person concerned is a solicitor and NOT a manager….

    Be as abusive as you like – you are wrong, as the Law Society will confirm if you ring them in the morning..

  457. 457
    Jimmy says:

    I’m on the fence until I find out what Blaney thinks.

  458. 458
    Bardirect says:

    A legal executive studies legal executive exams set by the Institute of Legal Executives.

    ILEX is quite rightly protective of its members rights to be called legal executives. They even have fellowships. Some become solicitors.

    Most “Litigation Managers” or “Litigation Executives” are usually wholly unqualified people who used to be called “solicitors clerks” and not the articled kind

  459. 459
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Dusting off my copy of Gatley on Libel and Slander as I type

  460. 460
    Mongrel says:

    OK Wankpot, what documents do you think she saw? She is trying to avoid an outright lie by using the words “took steps”, but in doing so she has convicted herself of negligence. If you haven’t been on the site for a while you might not have seen that the law is crystal clear (albeit absurdly onerous, but that’s her fault, not ours) and she has equally clearly comprehensively broken it.
    You might not care if ministers are dishonest and incompetent – a lethal combination as the families of our soldiers killed in Afghanistan will testify – but the rest us do. This isn’t a fucking game – it is real life and it matters.
    Now piss off to your playground games.

  461. 461
    Anonymous says:

    A legal executive is someone who has done their FILEX exams, not their LPC (‘solicitors exams’). Legal executives do not appear on the Law Society website in any form. The reference to legal managers is just to do with the fact that non-solicitors can now go into partnership with solicitors and it only applies to those people.

  462. 462
    Anonymous says:

    This gets better by the hour.

    All we need is a one eyed snot gobbling person in stripey trousers and a red nose.

    De de de-del del-de de de de …..

    Like a friggin’ circus!

  463. 463
    udderly 'orrible says:

    176 – Bardirect – agree.
    And a phone call to the Law Society will confirm the point. LS is always helpful when called about solicitors on their roll.

    Furthermore a few days back Mail or Teles quoted a solictor friend of his who said AZ was doing freelance conveyancing work from home.

    Matters little in the broader game Mr Fawkes — i.e. forcing ghastly Scotland and McMental out and well done on most excellent work targeting the hoons — but it would not have been difficult to check with direct sources on the solicitor bit.

    (If I’m wrong accept my apologies in advance).

  464. 464
    tipple says:

    Tat, Virgin have taken it down already. The fuckin’ laborites are chummy with all the media scum.

  465. 465
    A. Gilligan says:

    Wrong Guido the guy IS a solicitor The statement below is on ALL of these descriptions

  466. 466
    Bareonarse Scoutlard says:

    Yous only picking on I coz me is blak. Me reportin you to de racey relations bard rightnow soon.

    See if me doun get I off de whole ting, innit

  467. 467
    A. Gilligan says:

    Guido think of another solicitor you know check their entry & you’ll find the same explanation

  468. 468
    tipple says:

    Shush! Don’t mention Rasputin within Fondlebums earshot. He apparently had a very large dong that was cut off by a maid when he copped it & kept in a box. Fondlebum keeps it under his pillow.

  469. 469
    Grandma B says:

    I knew a Shiela once – her father was a bit intoxicated when he registered her name.

  470. 470
    Mongrel says:

    Just hope that nice little trumpet-playing lesbian schoolteacher doesn’t have to share a cell with the Baroness. She’s suffered enough.

  471. 471
    Anon says:

    No need. Guido’s bang to rights. Despite a number of people trying to point him in the right direction about the Law Society entry he’s gone and started another thread. What will M’Lud think?

    Its Guido’s Gordon Brown moment.

  472. 472
    Sid James says:

    Getaway. That’s socialism for you.

    Banish the Zhukovs, promote the Berias. Although Georgei was a little on the mean side, himself, they do say. Still, at least he was competent.

  473. 473
    Grandma B says:

    10% tax change – that’s when I realised Gordon couldn’t do his sums or he was crazy – possibly both.

  474. 474

    […] former housekeeper and her husband – means this story continues to roll. And if what Guido is reporting turns out to be true, surely her career must be over. If the husband isn’t a solicitor, […]

  475. 475
    Jimmy says:

    No, a stubborn refusal to admit fault in the face of overwhelming evidence is far far funnier.

  476. 476
    Bareonarse Scoutlard says:

    Is ver distresin. Everybod tink me is guiti or sumfink. Me am Bar’ness an in de govment innit.? so me just smooth de ripples an smoke me ganga.
    Massa Brown am me fren too. so not gonna quit no time aintit.
    Just got time to making de beds – where me pitchfork?

    Meeja only pick mecoz I is blak innit.

    Snot fare!!!!

  477. 477
    Bardirect says:

    Scotland will be hoping that he is a solicitor (he is) and is looking forward to him developing a family law practice in the near future so that he can instruct her if she is not struck off. Conveyancing can be quite useful in picking up sideline family disputes, estates, which would be right up her street.

  478. 478
    tipple says:

    Master Baiter wiped it away with a kleenex.

  479. 479
    Bardirect says:

    Can there really be any scandal left in expenses. Surely the Telegraph would have used it having paid so much.

    Perhaps the scoop is something else entirely although they did go light on labour so leaving it to conference week would make some sense.

  480. 480
    Mongrel says:

    Looks like Sh(r)iti Vadera is going to advise the Koreans. Didn’t think anyone in business would hire her. But being a bit of an old dog, she had better watch out – if they don’t think she is doing a good job they will probably just eat her.

  481. 481
    udderly 'orrible says:

    That would be the (Cape) Cod Catcher then?

  482. 482
  483. 483


    Thank you for taking the time to clarify with;


    So many people these days just skim badly and therefore miss the golden nuggets.

    Hopefully this instructional experience will benefit everyone.

  484. 484
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    What is it with leftoids and their love of crap alliteration? And they always talk so posh (or what they consider to be toffanese, usually sounding like something out of Billy Bunter, c. 1930). Faces like truck drivers, hands like pianists!

    Show us you hands, Baiter… No, on second thoughts. Too much blood.

  485. 485
    A. Gilligan says:

    Harpies not much of a lawyer then as it doesn’t become sub judice……… until charges are brought

  486. 486
    A. Gilligan says:

    Ah but it isn’t one against the other As the cleaner doesn’t have status then the AG CANNOT have seen valid documents

  487. 487

    If Tongan makes a rather large wedge of cash should she pay off Baroness Scotland’s fine?

    Sensible replies only.

    Ta mucker!

  488. 488
    Boudicca says:

    I have far more faith in Guido and his crosshairs than signing a No.10 petition, but I’ve signed anyway. The only one I can recall the Moran taking any notice of is the one asking him to apologise to Alan Turing – why I don’t know. I don’t think Brown’s old enough to have b+ggured HIM.

  489. 489
    Susie says:

    Whether he is or he ain’t a solicitor, there’s still the no small matter of a un-vetted illegal having unlimited access to the AG’s house and personal documents. And who are the Serbs’ best friends? The Russians!

    Super. I’d imagine John LeCarre would be delighted to write a comedy espionage thriller for a change.

  490. 490
    J lewis-List says:

    I mean the nice lady from Tonga with the solicitor hubby

  491. 491
    Anonymous says:

    Precisely. Mr F could, for instance:

    1. Go to the website of those well-known defamation lawyers, Carter Ruck
    2. Look up the profile of a partner – any partner he likes
    3. Cross check the name of that partner with the relevant entry on the law society website
    4. Discover that the partner’s entry confirms he/she was admitted as a solicitor, and there is a blank space next to ‘manager’, for reasons that all the helpful souls on this post have been trying to point out for hours.

    In those circumstances, Mr F might conclude either

    (a) ‘I am wrong. Maybe I should correct this post. or
    (b) ‘That person at Carter Ruck is clearly only a manager and not a solicitor. I shall start another thread telling the world that all the partners at Carter Ruck are not in fact solicitors. Better than that – I might even phone them up and accuse them of practising s solicitors when in fact they are not. After all, it’s only a criminal offence to hold yourself out to be a solicitor when you are not so it’s not as though someone from a nice cuddly firm like Carter Ruck would sue me for defamation for suggesting he/she was not a solicitor…’

  492. 492
    thick as thieves says:

    and the evidence is that you are a crackhead war crime apologist jimmy.
    I will keep working with you until you get clean from the crack cocaine and heroin that the labour party supplies you with in return for you posting here on their behalf.
    I will make sure you get clean from crack and smack and free from your evil suppliers.
    I give you my word jimmy.
    kill or cure innit.

  493. 493
    A Pensioner says:

    Thats not how I remeber it. Carrington had to cary the can for the whole of the FO who for years had been giving the Argies the nod-n-wink, and closer to the event overlooked the intel. As for Mugabe, Carrington forced that through and ignored the other dark chap who was a rival to Mugabe (whose name I forgot). Carrington has a lot to answer for IMHO.

  494. 494
    thick as thieves says:

    and that post has just exposed you as a war crime apologist, innit.
    oh dear.

  495. 495
    A Pensioner says:

    The Tories were more entertaining (remember Mellor and the Chelsea strip?) They didn’t fuck up the country, which is the important point.

  496. 496
  497. 497
    thick as thieves says:

    point taken chronic.

  498. 498
    Scallywag says:

    I just love the smell of toast…

  499. 499
    Scallywag says:


  500. 500
    thick as thieves says:

    1. smashing trolls skulls.
    2. soapy titwank off jaqui smith. no hands.

  501. 501
    Max says:

    Early drink?

  502. 502
    R.McGeddon says:

    ‘Labour will be purer than pure’


  503. 503
    Anonymous says:

    Excellent Well done George.

  504. 504
    Jethro says:

    charge…discharge…charge…discharge… where’s my tie, my shirt-front? my mouth!

  505. 505
    Why have a register ? says:

    Check here looking for the name Patricia Mawhinney.

    This is the illegal immigrant employer offenders register.

    Is it right that we employ a person as our Attorney General who is on that register?

  506. 506
    A Pensioner says:

    Thomas, easy to tell your a septic – you’re polite, write well and are not abusive.

    Now fuck off.

  507. 507
    Don't take the shots says:

    This is no more that an accidental oversight, just like forgeting to pay you TV license.

  508. 508
    Jethro says:

    …Bishop Abel Muzorewa

  509. 509
    Dame Ealiza-Bit says:

    Because he had a sense of humour

  510. 510
    Bus Anorak says:

    The 38 bus doesn’t go to Charing Cross. It goes from Victoria to Clapton Pond via Islington…

  511. 511
    Jethro's skinny daughter 'Trinny' says:

    …wouldn’t Yellow Pus suit him better, though>?

  512. 512
    Buggers belief says:

    I bet Baroness Scotland has been buggered by one.!

  513. 513
    udderly 'orrible says:

    So they’ll get a PPP like the one she screwed up the London Tube with then. Poor Koreans. Another of MacMental’s overpromoted, race card mates.

  514. 514
    AJC says:

    Report her to Harriet Harman — oops Harriet Dromey?

  515. 515
    polilitikesporno says:

    Remember to tug your balls as you take aim….

  516. 516
    Joe Public says:

    HMP Barlinnie
    81 Lee Avenue
    G33 2QX

  517. 517
    Joe Public says:

    But did he take a photocopy of her assurance?

  518. 518
    Joe Public says:

    BOTH homes, surely?

  519. 519
    Joe Public says:

    Doesn’t pharting Phil-the-Greek have conjugal rights then?

  520. 520
    Baroness Jockland says:

    Indeed – a mere technical breach of the rules. Not really of any importance at all.

  521. 521
    Stephen Brown says:

    It was Joshua Nkomo

  522. 522
    Anonymous says:

    How many more non lawyers can you find on the law society lists, how many of those are illegals?

  523. 523
    nell says:

    Bless the BBC for covering the most important issue tonight!!!

    That is of course trying to divert public attention away from gordon’s embarrassing week at G20 and baroness scotland’s ongoing controversy.

  524. 524
    nell says:

    There is something rotten at the heart of labour.

    The stench is reaching every household in the land now.

  525. 525
    MB says:

    I would have thought that anyone in the legal business would be taught from day one that you check every single document is genuine.

  526. 526
  527. 527
    Bardirect says:

    That’s why the Law Society dont list someone as a Solicitor unless they are.

  528. 528
    Bardirect says:


  529. 529
    An Englishman. says:

    Whitewash on Question Time – not a HARD question put at all. All waffle from all of the panellists.

  530. 530
    An Englishman. says:

    She might enjoy being eaten!

  531. 531
    Foggy Albion says:

    Mandelson will give you 6/9

  532. 532
    Anonymous says:


    Err, had Mr F done that, he would not now be beseiged by solicitors, and the occasional barrister (e.g. bardirect) very kindly pointing out that he is WRONG on this point, unless he has evidence that there is someone else of the same name as our Serbian friend who is purporting to be a solicitor when he is not. Why so stubborn on this point, Mr F? You are, on this point, and without wishing to emulate Edmund Blackadder, wronger than the world’s wrongest wrongster who has wrongly assumed that their inevitable wrongheadedness was not in fact wrong. Mr Z may be many things but he is a solicitor and to suggest that there is no evidence that he is a solicitor is W-R-O-N-G. So – why not correct that error?

  533. 533
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    How do we know that Bardirect is a real barrister?

    As opposed, say, to a Balkan arriviste with Lincoln’s Inn pretensions?

  534. 534
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    Bardirect … not quite like an iceberg but there is only 1/3 of it showing.
    They might have completely used (and over-used) the list of claims they had, but they haven’t got any sort of list about office + communication budgets or … STAFFING

    For example we do know of an MP who employs a full time university student.

  535. 535
    Anonymous says:

    We don’t know. It was an assumption based on the fact that:

    1. ‘Bar direct’ would seem to be a reference to direct access to the Bar, something that is only of concern to barristers
    2. His comments elsewhere on this post suggest that, like every other lawyer on this post, he knows why Mr F has got it wrong on this point.

    Is his profession relevant to the point of this thread though?

  536. 536
    Mal O'Dour says:

    I have just farted in a lift full of people. Of course this is only technically an offence.

    This stinks.

  537. 537
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    (it was but a faux-ironic pastiche of the is he/isn’t he nonsense about the solicitor chap whose name appears to be verboten on these shores)

  538. 538
    BobRoberts says:

    I thought it was meant to be ‘British jobs for British People’ these days?

    The baroness is just letting the side down.

  539. 539
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    So the chap’s kosher after all.

    Any news on his professional status, Guido?

  540. 540
    Jimmy says:

    Now stop that.

    Blogging means never having to say you’re sorry.

  541. 541
    Colonel Nut says:

    So Zivancevic is a Serb born in Hammersmith,and his Dominican born wife has become the Baroness of Scotland.We need a big Tito figure to curb this Balkanisation of the country and ensure effective policing of our borders.Is Brown the big Tito for the job?

  542. 542
    Martin Luther King says:

    I think that you will find that the percentage of black and Asian politicians with their hands in the till, involved with under age boys in the Midlands, claiming for second homes that they have never lived in, is about the same as the percentage of black youths involved in crime. So, Barones Buggery of Shitland, yes it is coz you’re black. It’s not racist it’s a fact.

  543. 543

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  544. 544
    Yossarian says:

    Was she paid minimum wage? If she wasn’t there a whole other new case to follow!

  545. 545
    Anonymous says:

    I failed to appreciate the faux-ironic intention of your post, which I regret. Put it down to me being a ‘newbie’ to this site who was just slightly obsessively annoyed by Mr F’s refusal to concede his error, and not as a criticism of you.

    Still, on the bright side, I see that the title of the post has now been changed. Who knew that ‘turnips’, as those who deigned to disagree with Mr F were referred to, could have such influence, eventually… Woooooh! Go, root vegetables! Go, root vegetables! Go, go, go! We have been unfairly chastised ever since Graham Taylor brought shame on our good name, and it is now time to reclaim what is rightfully ours!

    A good start might be to get rid of Mr Potato Head at No. 10. He is an embarrassment to those of us who are PROUD to be humble, hard-working and self-sufficient vegetables. Let us hope that those of the Potato Head tendency get their chips in the not too distant future…

    I am a turnipista! Who will join me on the inevitable march for victory!

  546. 546
    terrace bar frequenter says:

    if she states she never showed passport and was nevr asked for it and “naively” thought by being married hammersmith serb she was fine she can come out smelling of roses.

    as no proof to the contrary do we believe the baroness, who stole 170k thinking chiswick was near shetland and claimed out of london expenses, or that nice lady who cleaned toilets of rich people to make ends meet?

    my money is on the tongan. an interview with her will be worth a few bob at conference time.

    if clifford is involved he must have some evidence and this will not be good when it comes out.

    being coloured hereself, losing baroness scotland may lose labour some of the coloured vote if she gets sacked. her skin colour is not the issue this time, her thieving and lying is however quite relevant.

    with baroness udders they make a pretty pair.

  547. 547

    […] Source : Tapui Denies Showing Baroness Passport Her word against the Attorney General 546 Comments. […]

  548. 548
    Mark H says:

    Actually, just a few kegs of bang-powder would do although I think it’s been tried before unsuccessfully. Oh well….

  549. 549
    ron Vibentrop says:

    That’s sorted then. The Baroness must be lying.

  550. 550
    Seymour says:

    Don’t you know who is the boss of UKBA?

    It’s Lin Homer.

    Look up voting fraud 2004 Birmingham; she has form and is another labour apparatchick from her student days.

    Amazing how they never take responsibility for what they are paid to be responsible for.

  551. 551

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