September 23rd, 2009

The Relaunch of the New Statesman

Guido v New Statesman v Speccie

The graphic above shows how the New Statesman has lost ground over the last two years.  With the paid-for print circulation now in the low teens of thousands it has only a quarter of the Spectator’s paid-for circulation.   Online the advantage the magazine enjoyed when it was ahead of the game has now evaporated.  It was at one time one of the better online political websites and despite a recent revamp it has continued to lose ground.  “Why?” is the question the new owner Mike Danson must be asking himself.

StaggersThere are two reasons Guido thinks* – the decline of the enthusiasm of the left as a decade of disillusion takes a heavy toll and the fact that it isn’t a very good read.  Serious writers like Martin Bright and the effervescent Nick Cohen have been lost and replaced with new blood who are hardly “must read” material.  Mehdi Hassan is finding his footing, James Macintyre’s articles betray his mentoring by Derek Draper, often reading like the work of a student journalist on a college newspaper.  For a serious political weekly they lack serious political reporters.

The dullness quotient can be high elsewhere in the magazine.  Maguire’s cheeky diary was often a work of fiction, but at least it was entertaining fiction.  Peter Wilby usually has something interesting to say, Pilger is Pilger if you like that sort of thing.  A lot of the rest of the stuff is worthy and boring. The Spectator is far more fun, mischievous and readable.

It is hard to see how even as canny a publisher as Danson can avoid losing money if it doesn’t change editorial course.  If  of course he bought it vainly for influence, fine, though even there how much influence does it have nowadays?  The circulation numbers don’t lie, with a declining readership half the size of this blog’s audience, Guido thinks the announced “greater focus on photography” is unlikely to cut the mustard in Labour’s inner circles.  A political weekly needs to get great political stories to succeed.  When was the last time the New Statesman had a real scoop?

*Third possible reason applies to all left-wing, politically correct publications  since the late sixties – it is hard to be fun when you are earnest and have to watch your words. Fun sells.


328 Comments

  1. 1
    Tachybaptus says:

    The word ‘relaunch’ is now only applied to things that have sunk beyond salvage (such as the career of G. Brown). If they made that film again, it would be called ‘Relaunch the Titanic’.

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      Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

      John Pilger is clinically insane.

      All the other names of journalists employed at the New Statesman, which Guido mentioned, are inconspicuous and unpopular even among Left-wing circles.

      Their new editor, Mr Hassan, even if he were not a complete nonentity (which he is), has been shown by his public remarks to be a frothy, bigoted fanatic. Religious malice does not sell well.

      Finally, their political programme – or ‘philosophy’ – dangerous and absurd on its face, has been further discredited by its application as policy by the criminal Labour Party.

      Specimen from their website: Ken Livingstone says; “The Labour government remains a superior option to the Tories…”, Even Gordon no longer believes this.

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      kill the stoadsperson! (for reasons passing understanding) says:

      Maybe they could start charging online ?
      That sounds like a brilliant idea.

      Or maybe they could get a rich sugar daddy like Ashcroft or Rupert to keep them in print ?

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        Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

        Or George Soros, or perhaps that vigourous and daring plutocrat Richard Branson.

        The US Left could supply you with infinite effusive testimonials about the munificence and wealth of Mr Soros, and Branson’s riches have propelled the Man-made Global Warming belief from a local superstition to a global cult.

        Lastly, recollect if you would, that in 1997 Rupert instructed his papers to endorse Labour. A signal event, I’m astounded you forgot it, in years to come historians will date that as the epoch of universal British enslavement and poverty.

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          Anonymous says:

          British enslavement and poverty. Right.
          Hysterical hyperbole.

          Scientists actually think the earth is over 6000 years old and we evolved from apes. Superstitious cults. Good thing the US right rails against such bullshit.

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          Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

          Simpleton, the phrase speaking of enslavement and poverty is a use of poetic licence.

          If you’re an asserter of the fable that carbon dioxide alone raises world temperatures then you must pause and consider scientific principle and philosophy. Not parrot what someone else has reported or preached on the television or in the newspaper. Temperatures vary, plunge, swell incessantly and denying that clear fact of nature is risible.

          Suggesting that a rational, well-evidenced and thoroughly-considered scepticism of man-made global warming is the equivalent of ‘creationism’ is plainly false and barely congruous to the thrust of my prior comment. Libellous sneers against the ‘US right’, without proof or reason or justice, won’t retrieve your puerile and spiteful argument you deranged fool.

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          So the bastard Branson is to blame for global warming crap. I’d often wondered how the doubts and uncertainties of real scientists, as expressed for example in http://www.climateaudit.org/ , were translated into absolutely no doubt whatsoever by the media.

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        • 262
          Anonymous says:

          Were you born a pompous twat or did you have to work at it ?

          “poetic licence”. Riiiiiight. Do fuck off and don’t make me laugh.
          It’s hyperbole and it’s only your pathetic deluded sense of self importance that makes you refuse to admit it with weasel words Mandelson would be proud of.

          You know who are the real experts in scientific priniciple and philosophy ?
          Scientists.
          Not far-right nutjobs with an obvious axe to grind.
          I’ll listen to the editors of scientific journals before I listen to fucking dimwits like Sarah Palin or you on global warming any day of the week.
          Which was why I brought up creationism since that sailed clean over your head.
          The right in America who still refuse to believe in global warming are led by this creationist, 6000 year old earth, evolution denying, dimwitted wife of a BP worker.

          Even Bush the Oilman admits the obvious now and the next Prime Minister of Britain is famous for his forays into preventing global warming and all things green.

          I certainly don’t give a fuck how many folk on this site rant otherwise because they are pissing in the wind and Cameron will laugh them out of town. Not all conservatives live in the dark ages.

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          Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

          Well, well, it’s no surprise that the vain, supercilious and unreasonable coward who hides behind Anonymity swiftly resorts to crude, unjustified obscenity.

          And how obscene he is! Obscene without clear purpose or memorable wit.

          Evidently you Sir are no Conservative, reviling loftiness and education (as you see it) as ‘pomposity’. I understood your poorly veiled and preposterous importation of creationism and American social conservative thinking into my comment, and I rightly dismissed it as irrelevant and foolish. Opinions are not crimes. You may believe that man is capable of inadvertently and completely transforming global temperature, but I am free to doubt. Scientific enquiry is premised on experiment and observation of nature, and the properties and phenomena of nature change constantly.

          Mrs Palin appears to be a benevolent and gracious politician and one much more reluctant to make laws tending to prohibit and condemn individual freedoms than modern Tories. Mr Cameron betrays his Labour-like aspirations when he advocates the State interfering in commerce and society in order to expiate our ‘eco-sins’ against nature.

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          Mr Butcher's Bag is shitting the Bed says:

          Apologies.
          I actually thought you were serious for a while there.
          Masterful satire sir! I take my hat off to you.

          However with the phrase “Mrs Palin appears to be a benevolent and gracious politician” you rather let the cat out of the bag.

          No-one sane could possibly take you seriously attempting to pontificate on the wonders of the scientific method and education after such mocking gushing praise of a woman who took part in exorcisms, tried to ban books and thinks the earth is 6000 years old.

          You can’t help but stifle a laugh after reading that.

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          barefootcontessa says:

          So you don’t think that ‘ Two Butcher’s Bags for the Ministers’ Heads’ isn’t a pseudonym for anonymous then?

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          Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

          With respect, ‘barefootcontessa’, whilst eminently charming and singular, is also a pseudonym and a means of preserving anonymity.
          That said, a disguise to conceal one’s literary persona is ancient and harmless, remember ‘Junius’ in the 18th Century and Defoe’s nom de plume.
          I correctly brand as cowardice when one flings insults whilst claiming the shield of anonymity for oneself.

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          barefootcontessa says:

          TBBMH – I really don’t see the difference! I’d use my own name if it were as charming as my pseudonym, and I use that name because I personally associate with the picture it conjures up, and it has from time to time been used as my nickname.

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          Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

          Might one ask Mr Anonymous the Pusillanimous, what is your actual name?

          My charge was not that pseudonyms are uniformly craven, but that to assume a mask for protection from rebuttal whilst pillorying others with invective and extravagant insinuations is unbecoming.

          Are you now denouncing the virtues of common courtesy?, as I observe that my sceptical remarks on man-made global warming have been abandoned by your successive tirades. Is that your magnanimity, or your retreat?

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          Mr Butcher's Bag is shitting the Bed says:

          Seriously I’d give it up before you make yourself look any more foolish.
          Though I doubt it’s possible.

          You are weaseling furiously tying yourself in knots trying to avoid the obvious.

          You’re name isn’t “Two Butcher’s Bags for the Ministers’ Heads” so there is no defence in insulting someone because they do not choose an equally silly name and certainly not when they do to mock such obvious twaddle.
          You are a hypocrite and should have left well alone.

          Nor should you pretend a mask of courtesy where there was none.
          You are fooling no-one when it is you who decided to embark on that path by the namecalling “simpleton”. Yet more hypocrisy. You drown in it.

          I couldn’t care less if you are sceptical or not as your posts have proven someone who is so prone to error and hypocrisy that the prospect of taking you seriously vanished long ago.

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        snafu says:

        I enjoy your writing style Mr Butcher, you are most eloquent and it is sad that less well educated types seem compelled to denigrate what they cannot appreciate or emulate.

        I also take your point re global warming having not yet been proven; as a working scientist and someone involved in ascertaining just what standards of truth are appropriate to the task in hand, you are correct. Your adversary appears to be using these terms in a rather less critical manner. Nonetheless, Sarah Palin is a top-drawer nut, an anti-science bigot and a proven liar. And glöobal warming, while not proven, is looking highly and increasingly probable.

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        Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

        My gratitude Mr Snafu and I sincerely blush at your praise. Humility and a keen knowledge of my own defects, and that of my writing, forbids me from ascribing envy to those who ridicule my opinions or character. Such is not fair and may not be true.

        However, decency and good taste teaches me to avoid insulting others not present to defend themselves. I’m sure Mrs Palin would prize the same favour.

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        barefootcontessa says:

        You’re right about Sarah Palin, but she’s worse than a nut, and her life in Alaska has been far too sheltered.

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        Mr Butcher's Bag is shitting the Bed says:

        Don’t see much humility in falsely smearing someone as an obnoxious twat like speedoshorts then trying to weasel out of it with snide excuses.

        And I certainly don’t envy being so hilariously wrong and easily mocked in post after post after post like he is, that’s for sure.

        However if mere flowery overblown prose is what you seek then perhaps those fake plastic blooms and affectations will distract you from the overwhelming stench of bullshit MR Butcher’s Bags exudes.

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        Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

        Crass and witless.

        Moral philosophers suppose that it is malice and fury which dull the intellect Mr Anonymous the Pusillanimous.

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        Mr Butcher's Bag is shitting the Bed says:

        Moral philosophers tend not to hold Sarah Palin up as a “a benevolent and gracious politician” while simultaneously attempting to extoll the virtues of education and the scientific method. A laughable position other posters could not fail to point out to you.

        You’re confusing philosophers with intellectual midgets there.

        Nor would they use mere assertion when all else fails.
        I have your many hilarious errors and mistakes you have made here to back up my judgement thanks.

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      Rufus Stone says:

      You couldn’t make it up – our Great Leader, Gordo McMental is awarded World Statesman of the Year!

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/23/gordon-brown-world-statesman

      I feel sorry for all the other countries whose leaders don’t measure up to Gordo’s high standards.

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        Sukyspook says:

        I still haven’t stopped laughing since I heard the news of his “award” on aljaBeeba….unbefeckinlievable….and from his ‘brother’, Heiny Kissinger, allegedly one of the most evil men on the planet…..of course, Bono was there (yawn) – will he ever ‘get’ just what he’s part of – or does he already know??

        LMAO, ROFL guffaw gufeckinfaw

        Trouble is, the behaviour of these “people” is anything BUT a laughing matter.

        Also strange – the title of his ‘Statesman’ award coinciding with re-launch of The New Statesman…..there’s no such thing as coincidence…but being awake and aware allows one to ‘see’ such ‘coinkydinks’ aka media manipulations – imo, of course.

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        CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

        It’s An Old Boys Club Of The Worst Order ! The Americans Have The memories Of Gold Fish Only A Month Ago He Was The C*nt That Let The Terrorist Go Maybe You Get the award For Giving The Biggest donation To NORAD ?

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          Mr Ned says:

          I think you mean NORAID.

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          Mr Ned says:

          NORAD is the North American Aerospace Defense Command. The organisation that failed to locate 4 large airliners for over an hour on 9/11 when they boast that they can track a 2 inch bolt in space. They also lied that they do not monitor flights within the USA, but only look for external threats, They were however monitoring the flight traffic of the 5 military air defence drills that were taking place on 9/11. Two of which were simulating the actual attacks of that day and these were being co-ordinated by VP dick Cheney from a bunker in Washington DC. This is not my speculation. All of this is documented in OFFICIAL historical records.

          Noraid or the Irish Northern Aid Committee is an Irish American fund raising organization founded after the start of the Troubles in Northern Ireland in 1969.

          It should be noted that NORAID was used as a mechanism for Americans to fund anti-British terrorism and much of their money ended up in the hands of the Libyan terrorists that the Americans are now complaining about.

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          CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

          SO FUCKING WHAT YOU PRICK ! YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN’T NOBODY LIKES A SMARTARSE ! DICK BRAIN !

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        Stu says:

        You couldn’t fucking make this up could you. It’s like a story about a parrallel universe. having said that I couldnt stop laughing when I first read it. Delusional twat probabaly beleives it as well after all Bono was their wasn’t he so it must be true. What is this world coming to?

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          CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

          The Picture Cries Out For A Caption ! How About Mr Bonio I Have All Your Gramaphone Recordings !

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        Brett Allen says:

        Congratulations, Prime Minister Brown.
        You thoroughly deserved this award. It’s time for some recognition of your achievements by your own country.

        I will now go away because I’m expecting some nasty Tory comments any minute now…….

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          Charles Clarke says:

          World Statesman of the Year or not, I’m putting the boot in today. It’s for the good of the Labour Party, er I mean country.

          Link

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        • 154
          Mr Ned says:

          You will get a lot of common sense comments attacking that useless, malignant, curse on our Country, Brown from a lot of people who are NOT tories too.

          The only thing Brown deserves as a strong rope round his flabby neck carrying his full weight.

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      Archie says:

      YAWN!

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      Anonymous says:

      Tsk a tsk! Did you not know that G Brown has just won a World Statesman Award from non other that H Kissinger AND presented by Bono >????!
      The fact that a chap from Lois Vuiton and Coke a Cola also won awards at that ceremony should not deter you from applauding!

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      The Silent Majority says:

      The New Statesman is just fine. It’s not a flash in the pan, like this place

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    Jimmy says:

    It’s not very clear to read. Which one is the blue line that started nosediving in April?

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    Dr Snot says:

    ‘James Macintyre’s articles betray his mentoring by Derek Draper, often reading like the work of a student journalist on a college newspaper…’

    You can say that again. Macintyre’s piece last week (pulled within a few hours) that accused Dan Hannan of racism because Hannan agreed with Jimmy Carter that Obama was subject to some racism was the most fatuous piece of ‘journalism’ I’ve ever seen under the banner of a supposedly serious publication (and that includes Sion Simon’s ‘We cannot be killed’ crap that was also for the NS).

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    A Pensioner says:

    All this boils down to the fact that lefties can’t read or write. Good at yapping though.

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      A Pensioner says:

      As I said, good at yapping.

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      Even more to the point, the Internet itself is a right-wing tool. It defeats the very purpose of lefties – command and control. The Net brings information down to the individual and allows anyone, no matter how small (like Guido himself) to comment. It’s very noticable that in all left-wing countries the Net is either banned or controlled.

      It’s the Internet what won it.

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        Anonymous says:

        I’m sure tiny Guido will be flattered.

        Good thing the far-right aren’t on a power trip to control people or far-right nutters like Bush would have invaded a couple of countries when they had the chance while fucking up the economy then bailing it out.

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          Guido is actually quite tall for a blogger. He is also unique in the only man I have ever met to sport a muffin-top over his shirt collar.

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          Phil O'Pastree says:

          It was the internet what did for Bush, just as it will do for our own home grown nutter, Brown.

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          there’s the rest of the world thinking Bush was merely an idiot who fucked up two wars and the economy when it was actually the internet that did for him. somehow.

          simples innit ?

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          South Shields Shuffle says:

          The rest of the world don’t get to vote for the US President. There are enough people over there who still believe the wars are just. Without the internet the Republicans would probably still be in power.

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          Bush was the most unpopular President in history in case you were in deep sleep for the last few years.

          If there were enough people in the US who thought the Wars were just why did Bush start the pullout of Iraq and Obama continue it while support for Afghanistan is plummeting over there just like it is over here ?

          “Without the internet the Republicans would probably still be in power.”

          How exactly ?

          Did the internet force McCain to pick a moron for a running-mate ?
          Did the internet force Bush to invade Iraq ?
          Did the internet force Lehman, AIG and all the rest to fuck the economy ?

          Cause and effect chum.
          Bush was a Republican disaster and they lost the election because of it.
          Brown is a NuLiebore disaster and he’ll lose the election because of that.

          The internet is not all powerfull it’s just a tool.
          Politicos still know which media they must court most desperately and it sure ain’t the blogosphere.

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          modern history that should be since polling was obviously not around for all 43 US Presidents.

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          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          The internet is the work of the devil. You know theres people who believe the world is more than 8000 years old on it.

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          Phil O'Pastree says:

          Politicos still know which media they must court most desperately and it sure ain’t the blogosphere.

          I suppose that explains Brown’s famous Youtube video.

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          No, Brown’s youtube is famous because he looked like a stupid c’unt on it not because it was ON the internet and youtube.

          All the Parties have had brief flings with youtube etc. by now.
          CCO and Labour headquarters usually get minions to throw speeches and stuff up usually just to say they have and they are “switched on”.

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          Hard-Lazing Voter says:

          What is this cumguzzler on about?

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          Hard-Glazed Floater says:

          Nothing you would understand shit-for-brains

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        Sukyspook says:

        I wholeheartedly agree Major – I think the Net was meant to be a one-way-street method of control but thankfully we’ve learned all about ‘them’ from it and rightly so. I personally believe the Net was a replacement for the confessional – in some cases, I think that’s true. Retaining control necessitates being ‘one step ahead’ which, I believe on one level, is how the confession box worked…

        Sadly though, certain excellent sites are constantly under attack as in ‘the truthseeker dot co dot uk’ which has been down for over a week this time. Youtube has also started censoring and removing videos which, strangely enough, might be a little too enlightening…

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          don't believe the hype says:

          number 1 thing filling the interenet. Spam.
          number 2. Porn.

          some people need to chill the fuck out and get a grip.
          bloggers are hilariously self-absored and prone to delusions of grandeur.

          mass emails will be the most utilised method on the internet by the Parties this election as usual. it’s Political use will be given over to a couple of spotty media PR twats while the real Politics gets done on TV and in the Papers as always.

          it’s a useful adjunct but never believe the hype of those already obsessed by it.

          the Party leaders will throw favoured bloggers a couple of crumbs and try to appear “with it” by an occasional intenet or twitter PR stunt but they take the TV and Newspapers deadly seriously for a reason.

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        Article 38 says:

        The internet and its underlying protocols were first developed to allow the US military to continue to communicate and function even if major command and control locations had been knocked out by Soviet nuclear weapons.

        Along with Pershing, Star Wars, cruise missiles, etc. it was part of the portfolio that meant that the USSR could not compete with the dynamic and free economy of the west.

        Diversified and distributed communication is in the Internet’s very ‘DNA’, the Left with their statist and centralising philosophy will never, ever get this.

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      • 138
        Anonymous says:

        Dubya and Palin may well be redneck submental twunts but they know that there have been 44 presidents thus far

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          depends on how you count. Since George Washington, the first president under the U.S. Constitution ratified in 1789, 42 different men have held the office of president. However, Grover Cleveland had two non-consecutive terms of office and is usually listed as both 22nd and 24th presidents. So George W. Bush is the 42nd man to be president, but the 43rd president by consecutive term of office.

          nice try all the same

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          Dubya and Palin are redneck submental twunts says:

          and Obama hasn’t served his full Presidency yet before you start bleating about that one. I didn’t say thus far I said Presidents.

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          Hard-Lazing Voter says:

          Obama’s a crap president too.

          Serves a good purpose though. We need a Hussein once every few decades to remind everyone what electing weak twats will do.

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      MI5 says:

      The real problem with the New Statesman is that their journalists have not understood that Socialism is dead and buried…it was based on an intellectual error of historic proportions in the first place…

      Even with the most serious crisis of caapitalism since WWII, Socilaists continue to lose ground everywhere (except where they use totalitarian methods like Chavez etc)…

      I thought Socialists might have come up with something better than “yapping”…They have no policy, no intellect and no electorate (except for the illiterate, the Scots (same thing ?) and the NewLabour Tribal Areas…

      The argument now is between the “wet” right and the “hard” right..

      There is no alternative…(and Limpdems are finding out)…

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        Heir-to-Blair says:

        what do you mean the argument “now” is between the wet right & hard right ?

        Cameron doesn’t want to be the heir to Blair for nothing
        NuLabore were always a clone of what used to be called one nation conservatism

        still, what can you expect from a twatty bigot

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    Porn Addict says:

    Solid porn stats, Guido. A few more juicy tit-bits coming into the GE and you’ll be back at April levels… (she’s gorgeous, by the way!)

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      CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

      WHO IS ?

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        Porn Addict says:

        April is. Do keep up at the back!

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          CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

          ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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    Aiden o'fovit says:

    It’s ALWAYS easier to run an operation like TNS when your party of choice is in opposition;watch out for more radical output after the election-they won’t have toe the party line quite so slavishly.

    Alternatively,the whole concept of the political periodical may be a busted flush in the age of the net;most of what gets printed has been done to death on sites like this LONG before they go to press.

    Either way,I couldn’t care less. I read it once,and it was garbage,like a cross between The Mirror and The Guardian.

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    dirtyden says:

    All those numbers seem to be heading south to me, Guido. Including yours. Bummer.

    I think the elephant in the room is the huge explosion of your competitionnot me, obviously).

    And that’s all thanks to you. Well done, sir. You’ll be known as “the half-decent teacher” from now on.

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    Junican says:

    As a new poster, I am confused. I see the graph which has actual dates on the x axis, but I see no actual numbers on the y axis. I also see ‘Google Unique Visitors’ at top left, which I assume to mean ‘visitors to the website’. I cannot see any relationship to actual printed copies, which are said to be in the low teens of thousands. Without the actual number of ‘visitors’, the graph has no more than academic interest in the sense that the variations of ‘visitors’ may be in variations of only tens or twenties or hundreds – hardly enough to get your knickers in a twist about. Why anyone should want to pay good money to buy such a non-entity beats me. Of course, it all depends upon what you pay and what return you expect.

    The FORCE of the Internet as a vehicle for political dialogue is still in its infancy. Hardly anyone in the population is involved and an awful lot of those that are involved DON’T THINK. They say the first thing that comes into their mind without thinking about what they are saying.

    The situation is very complex. For example, what will happen when TENS OF THOUSANDS want to post on, say, this site? Who will moderate the posts? Who will listen? Who will give a shit?

    Eventually, sites like this (Guido, Devil’s Advocate, etc ) will be replaced by people talking among themselves. But, such conversations will have to be disciplined. Only schools can prepare the children of the future to have this discipline. Children need to be encouraged to debate, formally.

    GUIDO! (et al). Ought you not to be part of this process?

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      A Pensioner says:

      Junican – sorry you are confused, being a new poster. We are here to have a bit of fun, let off some steam, and occaisionally learn a little. Nobody is pretending to change the world, leave alone give stuff about page hits or stats.

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      Self Moderator says:

      Junican. You make a good point, but most contibutors have a decent argument, interspersed with some hilarity. Idioitic, racist and boring comments seem to be be erased fairly quickly.

      The internet is not governed (yet) by the State, therefore it should be cherished by the public whilst it lasts. Free speech is at a premium these days!

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        Gordon ( I AM a moron ) Brhoon says:

        @17

        An Internet Tax ?? Brilliant ! It’ll be in my next Budget. Oooops ! I mean Darling’s next Budget.

        But only levied on Tories. obviously.

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      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Here’s some leftie jobsworth wanting to control the internet now.

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        Great Granddad says:

        This site is about free speech. And it is about the nearest thing to true free speech that I have come across in the course of a fairly long lifetime.

        It is so nearly true free speech, that even such as you Junican, who would turn this into a training site for p.c. blogging, are tolerated.

        It is also about fun. Sir Alan Herbert (APH) commented in one of his books that the Government does not recognise fun. “Fun is not mentioned in any act of Parliament”. On this blog fun is permissible.

        It is also a little about enlightenment. When bloggers take the trouble to post links on this site, you will find it sometimes greatly worthwhile to click them. Along with the dross there is the occasional gem. I recommend them.

        If you don’t like euphemisms you are free not to ‘euphemise’. You are pretty well free to use the expressions of your choice.

        Barring boring repetition you are free to show a little of your bigotry. If you don’t like blacks, Muslims, Welshmen, homosexuals, heterosexuals, or people in between, we, the bloggers, would prefer that you don’t make your personal preferences too specific, but you certainly don’t have to hide them away. If you should attempt to overdo it, Guido will no doubt step in.

        In a nutshell, we are here for fun, for tension release, to say what we please, and just occasionally, read something that makes our day.

        And the thanks of all of us are due to the Maestro, Guido.

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    • 65
      CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

      What Is ?

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    • 119
      Four foot lizard with a two foot gecko says:

      not to mention responsibility

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  9. 12
    mitch says:

    Being a lefty is only fun when your in opposition. When you actually have to do anything you begin to realise just how absurd your position really is.

    So most of those students and other tossers who bought it have realised their mistake….the rest due to the snot eating Cyclops policies cannot afford it anymore.

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    • 150
      Siberian Tory says:

      The New Statesman is fast becoming the News on Sunday.

      If you have an hour or so to kill and fancy a laugh at a rag tag bunch of lefty morons watch the following:

      It’s about the bunch of cretins who launched News on Sunday and it’s hilarious watching them try and run a business.

      Apparently, two days before the launch they were wandering around Manchester with ear plugs in on an all day deaf awarness course despite not having any deaf staff.

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  10. 14
    Jimmy says:

    “I see no actual numbers”

    You’ll find that’s something of a recurring theme.

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      Numbers schmumbers, Jimmy. Guido wasn’t boasting about absolutes (for a change) but his/their relative positions. As you grow up and mature, you’ll find much of life outside the twisted world of socialism works on this basis, including F1 racing, first-past-the-post parliamentary elections, and queuing (except at Italian ski resorts for the queuing bit, natch).

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      Except on Saturdays and the first of the month. All the metrics, read ‘em and weep Jimmy. Which you help boost single-handedly.

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  11. 15
    jez. says:

    Dead in the water. A nasty judgmental vicious little rag written by nasty judgmental vicious little people. Few will mourn its passing which can’t come too soon enough for me.

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  12. 21
    Anonymous says:

    “Mehdi Hassan is finding his footing,”

    Mehdi Hassan is an Islamist who thinks non-muslims are inferior. The Staggers should be ashamed of itself.

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  13. 22
    Anonymous says:

    “Gordon Brown turns to Middle England to revive election hopes”

    This from the man that has done more than any other Labour politician(apart fromHarman) to destroy ” Middle England “over the past 12 years

    Gordon – here’s a message from Middle England – “F-U-C-K O-F-F!”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6845112.ece

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    • 26
      nell says:

      If that’s part of mandy’s strategy for winning the next election the tories have nothing to worry about.

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        P1 says:

        If it was Mandy’s idea, I think he must have lost his touch. The “squeezed middle” know who the Squeezer-in-chief was, and they will not be voting for him or anyone who represents him. Interesting to see how this approach plays out in the New Statesman/Guardian world – they’ll probably think it’s a fantastic piece of political tactis……

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    • 109
      Moley says:

      Conservative voters wiped out.

      Half of them are spewing up into a bucket and the other half can’t stop laughing.

      Typical Brown. Typical Labour.

      “What can I say?” not “What can I do?”

      More words from the winner of the “Lying politician of the year award”.

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  14. 23
    nell says:

    Well what do you expect. Any rag that would publish the sort of tripe that Alastair Campbell writes can hardly expect to be taken seriously.

    And as for ‘fun’. What could you write about Labour that was light-hearted?

    Ah well , sun’s up. Another day in Labourland.

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  15. 24
    fucdifino says:

    Q. Why is Gordon Brown walking round with his pr**k in a biscuit tin?
    A. ‘Cos he’s f***in’ crackers

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  16. 35
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Speaking of relaunched statesmen, when Gordon get to meet Obama since he’s in NY at the minute?

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    • 47
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      At the G 20, unless the American delegation can re-arrange the Alphabet. Or change the name to States of America United.

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      • 203
        Hard-Lazing Voter says:

        The pair of them can hobnob about saving the world and other such horseshit.

        Well, they would if even Bummer wasn’t sick of him.

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    • 77
      nell says:

      Omaha has declined gordon’s request for a one to one meeting. I wonder why that is?

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      • 85
        Phil O'Pastree says:

        Because Broon has not so long shaken the hand of a tyrannical hypocrite, one who is hated even in his homeland though none dare express it. The American people would never forgive Obama if he held the palm that recently held Bono’s.

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      • 89
        Ivor Schwartzporsche says:

        Seeing someone chew their fingernails and eating bogies is enough to put anyone off.

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      • 93
        shelling-out says:

        He’s on the “Z” list now.

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      • 100
        P1 says:

        He might not get through US Immigration anyway-funny views on Libyan terrorists don’t go down well with straight-thinking immigration officials at JFK.

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        • 121
          shelling-out says:

          Pretty soon, Gadaffi and other leaders like him will be the only people speaking to Gordon. Obama has already refused a one-to-one meeting with him.

          He’s not exactly Mr Popular, is he

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        • 269
          jgm2 says:

          He was never popular with the yanks. When he gate-crashed Bush at the White House he had to sit around on the tarmac cooling his heels for a whole day while embarrassed British Embassy staff begged their US opposite numbers for a five minute ‘cancellation’ slot.

          Same when he barged off to get his autobiography photo with O’Bama. Just pitches up unannounced and expects the President of the US to clear his schedule while he doubtless talks the same kind of condescending, mendacious bullshit that he gives parliament.

          No wonder no fucker wants to be seen in the same frame.

          International Statesman of the Year?

          Who said the Americans don’t do irony.

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        I'll have some of that says:

        Well obviously Obama doesn’t want to be eclipsed by the International Statesman of the Year…..

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  17. 36
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    when does Gordon

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  18. 42
    Agent 99 says:

    Ed Balls yesterday launched a fresh assault on selective education by holding grammars responsible for failing neighbouring schools.
    The Schools Secretary attempted to blame the 11-plus for poor results by secondaries in popular grammar school areas such as Kent and Gloucestershire.
    He said this was because the exam makes pupils feel like failures even before they begin their secondary careers.

    Nothing to do with us Labour wonk policies then?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215362/Ed-Balls-attacks-grammar-schools-making-pupils-feel-like-failures.html

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    • 53
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Funny how Balls, the son of a Professor, gets into a fee paying grammar school in Nottingham and goes on to Oxford. Did he benefit from a Direct Grant Place or did his old man pay the fees?

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    • 320
      Jim Beam says:

      To Agent 99. The reason Balls wants to destroy grammar schools is because they are one of the last bastions of meritocracy and upward social mobility. I am not saying they are perfect but they gave talented working class people the chance to move upwards and gain a decent level of education.The last thing that a socialist fascist government wants are intelligent people who refuse to obey their stupid laws.

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  19. 43
    Sir says:

    One needs regularly to be able to blow off steam here in the editorial meeting of the New Statesman with a good poke at the minorities. We Nogggers, poofs, muslims, lizards et al need a good laugh owing to the tension being built up stripping you English, Welsh an Scotch of your nations.

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  20. 48
    OKTOBER says:

    Governments may know about Business in the same way I know about Westminster. That however does not make me a politician.

    What many in business and politics fail to grasp is that reputations take time and effort to build, but can be lost overnight.

    Trust can never be bought or traded.

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  21. 51
    CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

    More People Read VIZ Than That Old Rag !

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  22. 52
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    All aboard ‘The Black Pig’,was it called ‘The Scotland’ before?

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  23. 55
    genghiz the kahn says:

    I had thought Rik Mayell wasn’t up to a new series.

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  24. 62
    Sir William Waad says:

    I was sorry to see Guido’s readership declining so much.

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  25. 63
    politically un-correct social worker(retired) says:

    I don’t know anyone who reads the New Statesman, even social workers. I will never forgive John Pilger for hijacking my daughter’s graduation ceremony a few years ago – as the invited guest, he made a dreadfully turgid and lengthy speech, banging on about Third World poverty and injustice, not only was it boring, but totally inappropriate for what should have been an enjoyable celebration for students and their families. He just used the occasion to promote his own views. I thought it was very rude

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      Siberian Tory says:

      Hmmm reminds me of my graduation ceremony where Bill Bryson took the opportunity to tell us about how his friend needs a new kidney and that should any of us die we should give him our kidney.

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    • 206
      Hard-Lazing Voter says:

      John Pilger always was a tosser.

      The leftie media set love him because he repeats everything the echo chamber regurgitates.

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  26. 67
    barefootcontessa says:

    Off topic – Saw our ex prime minister on the tv last night,…….you know the one, that nice kinda guy – Saint Tony of Arsissi. You’ll be glad to hear he was looking bloody awful. Hollow cheeks (probably due to teeth reconstruction/extraction), orange sweating face (due to too much time spent on a yacht in the sun), hair disappearing from the front to the back of his head, and finally lack of the ‘brilliant’ smile originally used to confirm the ‘nice next door boy look and persuade his spineless back benchers and died in the wool poor deluded newlabour voters. Oh, come the Day!

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    • 72
      A Pensioner says:

      The thing that stops me kicking the dogs etc, is the thought that he has to go home to the fragrant Cherie, even if only occaisionally.

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    • 74
      Old Nick Heavenly says:

      The Day comes, Mademoiselle Comtesse des Pieds Nu!

      It’s Nature wot does it, even to the ‘lizards’!

      I will repeat, for the paranoid, Tones chances of being EU Pres are smaller every day!

      Warmonger, anglo saxon economic model, fucking horrible wife!

      It’s a hard sell!

      As someone who has gone native over here I have realised the constraining forces for the French government is Madame Guillotine and for the Germans the utter fear of pushing the population back to the state where they will willingly support another Adolf!

      Her ends ‘Thought for the Day.’

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    • 274
      Sarah says:

      I got modded on the Gruaniad for asking (in all seriousness) if Tone wasn’t a bit too fond of the old Inca powder.
      My (then) teenage son saw him on telly and said – “he’s a coke head”
      Me: “Shut up and finish your homework, and you’re clearly getting too much pocket money”
      Our kid proceeded to point out the following:
      Rictus grin
      Terrible teeth – deteriorated quite quickly once in office
      Weird agressively staring eyes
      Hyper behaviour and body language
      Sex-mad (thanks Cherie)
      Never shuts up once he starts
      Likes hanging out with saddo rock stars (actually the last one was mine).
      So whaddya think?

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      • 321
        Jim Beam says:

        To Sarah.Your son shows remarkable powers of perception.I always thought that Bliar Gorgon and Mandelscum were all part of a gay love triangle but thinking about it I think that both your son and I are correct.

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  27. 73
    CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

    The Next New Series In A Couple Of Years Will Be The EUSSR Version !
    How The Lovely Friendly French And Germans Saved Europe From Their British Oppressors !

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    • 78
      Old Nick Heavenly says:

      Yes indeedy do dah Cappers. I have not objected to dropping bombs on the heads of any population that will let Fascists take over their country.

      United Condom’s turn next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      LA RAVING HONTE!

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    • 90
      CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

      I Think In The remake ED Balls Will Have To Be Adolf Hitler ,Gerard Depardieu as General Erection And Gordon Brown As Baldrick !

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    • 199
      JMT says:

      Read the Aachen Memorandum (1995); brilliant spoof of Britain in the EU.

      History is rewritten to show that Hitler and Napolean were the first great heroes seeking Eurpean Integration – only those nasty little Englander scum stopped them, causing wars and murdering millions in the process.

      Trafalgar Square is now Delors Square and Waterloo Station has also been renamed, prison is reserved for hardened criminals like motorists and anglers.

      Depressingly some of the mickey-takes are now way too close for comfort now.

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  28. 80
    Lady Caledonia says:

    Twatterry by the Twaterati. When does the shit kick off?

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  29. 81
    Baroness de Jockland says:

    ‘fun sells’ – better than cold cells.

    that shit’s only for the little people.

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  30. 82
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    WW2 called Apocalypse, over here, made by the Frogs.

    On how the French singlehandedly liberated their homeland.

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  31. 87
    Fat Pat's parrot says:

    OT

    Richard Littlejohn attacks the charlatan Vince Cable and calls Gordon Brown a sociopath in today’s Daily Mail:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1215157/LITTLEJOHN-Saint-Vinny-simply-bob-politician-make.html

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  32. 98
    Sir William Waad says:

    “If he had bothered to look around his own Twickenham constituency, he’d realise that a seven-figure house price tag is no sure-fire indicator of great wealth.”

    Yes. They ain’t exactly boracic, though, are they Richard?

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    • 106
      Anonymous says:

      Screw the middle-classes and the workers to fund rich spiv bankers and bone-idle, chav benefit scroungers.

      That’s the Labour/LibDem way to do things.

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    • 149
      Moley says:

      The problem with tax rises as an economic policy is that tax can only be paid by people who have money.

      I.e. That part of the population which works, invests, saves, takes a risk by starting a business.

      Green taxes are intended to change people’s behaviour; the congestion charge discourages driving in central London.

      Think about it.

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  33. 102
    Gordon McDoom says:

    More importantly…VERY IMPORTANTLY.

    BROWN is going to give up one of our TRIDENT submarines. Is this a decision that just one man is allowed to make or should Parliament decide?

    How can it be right that a man who is stark raving bonkers is able to deplete Britain’s independent Nuclear deterrent by 25%?

    The TRAITOR

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    • 108
      Anonymous says:

      Ask him. Brown is on the Mayo Show taking calls live on Radio 5 this afternoon.

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    • 113
      shelling-out says:

      It’s got nothing to do with global warming (or whatever the buzzword is at the moment).

      He knows we can’t afford it.

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    • 124
      Maths teacher says:

      I think having three Tridents kind of makes sense.

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      • 130
        shelling-out says:

        So do I. I can’t understand how just three tridents can patrol all our borders. I would have said we needed another one.

        He’s just cutting costs under the guise of something else to make it sound more viable.

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    • 142

      I was under the impression that four had been decided as the minimum number of subs required to ensure that one could always be in deep water, ready to launch, while one was in transit, one potentially having sub maintenance, one having missile maintenance.

      What can we do with three? Have a nuclear deterrent on weekdays only?

      Cockheaded political decision – Brown’s a wanker.

      However, I’m not a ICBM fan actually – a far better nuclear system would eb the cheaper and more flexible option of sea/air/sub/land launchable nuclear tipped cruise missiles.

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      • 156
        Gordon McDoom says:

        You are correct. The RN wanted 5 SSBNs and 4 was the compromise. 3 boats will put a lot of pressure on the crews (and I mean a lot) there are bound to be periods when there are no SSBNs at sea with a fleet of only 3 boats due to mechanical breakdowns. I would have thought that the cost of a 4th boat would be negligable in the overall cost which with the MOD seems to be mainly design.

        Sheer political gesturing folly by Mr Brown, but has mr Cameron the bottle to say so?

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        • 196
          Agent 99 says:

          This just completed the work of the loony left and done for two reasons

          1) As pointed out above the reduction will be a “stealth cut” hidden under another guise. Expect many more like this in Labours dying days.
          2) Had Kinnockio won the GE his first act was to be withdrawl of all the Nuc Subs. I think it is action when announced a few days before the GE more than anything else that cost him dearly.

          Some will have you beileve that the increased effectiveness of the Trident system allows one submarine to be removed. Not the case as a weapons system is only as good as the vehicle or platform from which it is deployed. The reduction of a submarine therefore decreases the effective deployments, hinders weapons distribution and allows any potential enemy a bigger advantage and an easier task to destroy the platforms prior to launch. (They only have to get 3 of them not 4). Subs in transit or in bases although of lower effective capability still remain a threat to any enemy.

          Be assured if one sub goes we could never get it back without being accused off an arms race. McLoony therefore knowing this is just starting the process off before he knows he will get kicked out and make it incrdibly difficult for an incoming administration to make their own policy. As such at such a moment (rather than in say 1998 when they could also have done this) the action can now only ever be construed as the last traitorous attempt to destroy this country, its people and its defences and should never be forgiven.

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      • 284
        Susie says:

        Four submarines: One under the sea on active service (submerged for 6 months), one in refit being readied for the 6 months active service (a huge undertaking), one in transit, one for crew training…

        Just having 3 means that the backup will consist of either having an inexperienced crew or an experienced crew manning an MOT failure nuclear sub.

        They had the revue

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    • 207
      Bullingdon Beefcake says:

      good thing cameron wasn’t thinking about scrapping trident

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      • 276
        Sarah says:

        Deterrent against what FFS?
        Who is their right mind is going to attack/invade a clapped out, third world country like the UK? What are they going to do? Steal our illegal immigrants and carry them off to their own countries? Take the two tons of coal we still own, or perhaps a few orange canisters of our natural gas?

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        • 285
          Susie says:

          Sarah: The main opposition (ask the Poles if you don’t know who they are) has to go past our islands to get to the Atlantic (why do you think we’ve needed to hang onto Ulster?).

          Our permanent seat on the UN Council is because we’ve had a credible nuclear capability for the last 60 years.

          But be my guest, tear it all up and wait and see…

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        • 315
          Sarah says:

          Hmmmm, yes I see what you mean. But why does a certain party need to be kept out of the Atlantic?
          I’m not being deliberately obtuse here. If our nuclear subs are kept running just for the convenience of the Yanks, then why don’t they pay for them?

          The notion of a ‘credible’ nuclear deterrent seems increasingly old-fashioned when any tin-pot dictator (Korea?) can get nuclear capacity.

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      nell says:

      The LibDems seem intent on self destruction.

      They’ve had a rubbish conference, vince is being mauled through the media and nick clegg has abandoned sensible dialogue to spend his time trying to throw mud at the tories.

      I think they’ve let the excitement of a forthcoming GE warp their good sense.

      They have a slim chance of becoming the 2nd party at the next GE. At the moment they’re throwing it away. Disappointing.

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      • 202
        Agent 99 says:

        Quite right Nell.

        They should be realistic and know they cannot win but if they turned all their attention towards Labour I feel they had a really good chance of becoming the opposition. As of now they will fall back to the irrelevant status of before prior to a leader overthrow and another rebranding. Shame because Labour being reduced to an inconsequential 3rd place is all they deserve.

        Limp Dums then for good reason.

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        • 288
          Susie says:

          They’re banking on another Lib/Lab pact… as i’ve said anything less than a Tory 100 seat majority and it’s goodnight Vienna for me.

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      • 209
        Hard-Lazing Voter says:

        Nick who?

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      • 240
        Moley says:

        The Lib Dems are the party of “Education”, Guardian and BBC. Middle class socialists.

        They are lost if they tie themselves to labour and will lose all the support of the Guardian readership (a crushing blow), if they tie themselves to the Tories.

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  35. 107
    CAPTAIN PUGWASH'S SHIP says:

    My House Has Now Become A Seven Figure House Under Labour! Its Now Worth £25,574.27p

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  36. 116
    Prodicus says:

    Doubtless ‘sensible people like Matthew Taylor’ (copyright Sunder Katwala) and Rawnsley are even now galloping to the rescue of the Staggers, at the head of a pink posse… Tom Harris, Denis McShane, Yasmin, Polly… all the hands currently struggling free from the constraints of a balanced site like PoliticsHome and desperate for the liberty of a platform which would positively encourage their delusions and from which they can attack Michael Ashcroft. The Staggers would be a perfect fit.

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  37. 120
    Daryl says:

    a “greater focus on photography”? Eh?! Is it going to turn itself into something of Nuts magazine ilk?

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  38. 127
    Article 38 says:

    A few weeks ago there was a documentary on BBC R4 about a socialist cafe set up in London in the 1950s. Lots of misty-eyed reminiscing about how wonderful it was for like-minded left wingers to have a place to while away hours discussing their political philosophy.

    It turned out it was so badly run that it went bust… plus ca change, plus ca meme chose.

    Can anyone name a single organisation established on socialist lines (whether a cafe, a magazine, or a government) that has proven successful?

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    • 131
      Red Robbo says:

      British Leyland.

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    • 140
      Anonymous says:

      The NKVD was pretty successful (if you count utter bloody slaughter and tyranny as success in the name of sociaism)

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          Article 38 says:

          Up to a point. It was only successful after Stalin was forced to reduce status of commissars and re-introduce a number of Tsarist measures; e.g. badges of rank for officers, unit distinctions, etc.

          Even then it was still driven by a lot of terror, soldiers could be made enemy of the state for being taken PoW. Plus, US assistance was still essential (e.g. food, jeeps and trucks).

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    • 163
      Sir William Waad says:

      “All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need…..and the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved” (Acts 2:44-47) This system was highly successful for a long time, although needless to say some scholars are secptical.

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    • 170
      politically un-correct social worker(retired) says:

      I heard that too – one of the key ‘reminiscers’ about the good old days of this cafe, was none other than Sir Stuart Hall, Marxist sociologist, who came to England from a poor family in the West Indies, and went on to be the darling of academic lefties everywhere (excellent provenance, of course) He is feted in many university sociology departments and especially at the Open University where he occupied a very senior position. The influence of people like Stuart Hall has been enormous, unfortunately,

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    • 213
      Antigone says:

      How fucking stupid do you have to be to think Blair and his merry band of New Labour fuckwits are or ever were socialists ? Does Mandelscum look particularly socialist when he’s doing corrupt deals on yachts with billionaires ?

      Some of the idealogues here are so obsessed with namecalling they have lost all touch with reality. The public isn’t going to tell Brown to fuck off in May because they think he’s a socialist. They are going to kick him out because they think he’s bloody awful and fucked up the economy.

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    • 280
      Sarah says:

      Bonnington Square Cafe.

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  39. 132
    anonny hey no says:

    The New Statesman?

    I stopped taking it when they hired that Islamist political editor chap.

    I was never that enamoured with it anyway – it just used to be one of those publications that you needed sight of.

    Now – forget it.

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  40. 134
    Tony Woodley says:

    British Car Industry – fookin’ world beater.

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  41. 141
    going mental says:

    is this like a brown relaunch ?

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  42. 147
    Yarnesfromhorsham says:

    Guido – off topic but….. Is there a case for a monthly review/update of issues that might start to be moving below the radar. MPs expenses, Peter Hain – a sort of “where are they now or whats happening now” update.

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  43. 151
    Anonymous says:

    The New Statesman suffers from BBC domination.

    I can watch whining, self-indugent, self-loathing Lefties24hs on BBC News.

    I can hear them every day on BBC radio.

    Why would I buy a magazine that says the same thing.

    If I want to hate myself, my country and my culture all I have to do is watch Channel 4 news, where the Left informs me nightly that we White Europeans are the curse of humanity.

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  44. 155
    Papasmurf says:

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23747525-details/Mandelson:+PM+would+have+been+wrong+to+sack+Baroness+Scotland/article.do

    “Lord Mandelson — First Secretary of State and Mr Brown’s key adviser — pointed out that Mr Blair had acted too hastily in sacking him in 2001, only for a subsequent inquiry to clear him of lying. “You have to inform yourself properly before rushing to judgment. That’s what the Prime Minister has done in [Lady Scotland’s] case.”

    But Lady Scotland’s remarks, made within minutes of receiving Mr Brown’s backing, came under fire. One senior Cabinet minister said: “She’s toast.”

    He also says that Bliar was wrong in hastily sacking him over a similar affair as he was later cleared.

    Well, surely being cleared is what they do in any case as the evidence is tainted.

    Secondly Scotland was NOT cleared but admitted her guilt.

    tick tick tick

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  45. 166
    Desperate Dan says:

    A dodgy organisation called the Appeal of Conscience Foundation has just awarded Gordy the World Statesman of the Year Award. What planet are they living on?

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  46. 173
    clearhoney says:

    The fourth reason (apart from as you say the lack of top-ranking and incisive journalists and influential “must read” commentators ) has to be that none of the senior Labour/government figures will go near it. Blair, Brown, Straw, Mandelson, Prescott, etc, didnt and dont want to be seen appealing to the magazine’s constituency and its circulation just isnt big enough among the circles that matter to make them bite the bullet and come through the door. It hasnt really had a consistently entertaining and incisive mix of writers and story-gatherers since the 80s.

    Maybe it should sign up one or two of the leading bloggers (political and non-political) for a quick-fix injection of “fun” while it gathers the cash to go after some of the bigger fish, the writers that Brown etc grovel to most. If that means poaching them from the Spectator, Mail or Telegraph then so be it.

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  47. 178
    Raptor says:

    During the 1960’s-1970’s the New Statesman had a much higher circulation than the Spectator. Indeed, the latter almost disappeared at one point, with sales below 18,000. We must bear in mind that public institutions like libraries, schools and colleges have to buy copies of “serious” magazines and newspapers, which is why the Independent still hasn’t vanished. No one reads them.

    It is true to say that the reason why the New Statesman has declined is because it promotes socialism, which is stupid and doesn’t work. But socialism works for the soft end of the public sector, since that is how they get their jobs and handouts. They constitute what remains of the NS readership.

    New Labour’s achievement was to use capitalism (notably financial services) to generate enormous sums which could be taxed and squandered on Labour’s client state. The New Statesman’s only hope is to find itself an equivalent sugar daddy. It should change its name to The Newstatesgirl, and have lots of pictures of Young Socialist Pioneers in shorts.

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  48. 183
    SCOTLAND MUST GO says:

    Apologies for off topic

    Link to Guardian poll re should Scotland fall on her sword – cuurently stands at some 76%

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2009/sep/22/immigration-lords

    1 day to go

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      P1 says:

      Typical Guardian reaction – introdcuing an element of doubt by asking a question that has such a self-evident answer. She broke the law, she wrote the law, she has shown she has no shame, an she has tried to spin it as a “technical” breach and apparently no worse than not paying the congestion charge. Oh by the way, she’s’ maxed her living allowance as well. Obviously she thinks that she is providing just the kind of inspirational leadership that is called for from the leading legal offiecr in the land. Incredibly, and comically, squeezer-Brown thinks so too!

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      English Liberation Front says:

      23% (New Labour tribal tossers) disagree.

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  49. 191
    No I've seen it all says:

    “Gordon Brown embraces U2 star Bono after being named World Statesman of the Year in New York today”

    Unelected we stand, Unelected we fall.

    What a pair of twats. And Who the Fuck said Gordon was “Statesman of the year”? Some other unelected twat no doubt.

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23747692-details/Brown+should+quit+for+his+own+dignity%2C+says+Clarke/article.do

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      Mondeoman says:

      This sends the wrong message, he will be even more big headed now, crap man gets a gong!

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      • 210
        Mike Gigglesworth says:

        call it a parting gift like a golden watch before his rivals and Mandelbum ‘retire’ him after the conference

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          South of the M4 says:

          Correct. No doubt part of a grand plan so that Brown can ease off the stage with dignity. Probably a plum international job to follow. Personally I think he should be in prison.

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    • 215
      English Liberation Front says:

      Nigel Havers went up considerably in my estimation when he described Bono as a “tosser” on “Grumpy Old Men”. The most impressive thing about these two chumps is their own self-importance – they really do deserve each other and ought to get married.

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        mad fred 2 para says:

        I remember Bono calling the war criminal Blair & the usurping unmandated Brown “the Lennon & McCartney” of politics.

        Correct me if I am wrong, but i dont recall lennon & McCartney forming an “ethical foreign policy” that has been responsible for over 1 million deaths.

        Bono – the guy who pays no tax in the UK, lectures & arselicks Brown & Blair into giving away the accumulated wealth of the nation via the institutionally corrupt DFID.

        Where is Saint Sir Lord Deity Geldof on such a grand photo op occasion?

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        • 243
          Groucho says:

          Bono has got to be one of the most annoying individuals in all of celebdom.

          Bono, you tax dodging hypocritical little gobshite, we all know that the shades you wear are in fact prescription lenses. You are as blind as a bat but too vain to wear ordinary specs.

          And ‘The Edge’ – you are a third rate guitarist who would be absolutely nothing without the effects pedals. And we all know that you wear hats all the time because you are a slaphead.

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    • 218
      shelling-out says:

      Any passing bandwagon. And that goes for Bono too.

      Gordon likes to portray himself as a friend to the stars, revelling in all the glitz, glamour and the oxygen of publicity. In reality, he is a deeply unpopular PM trying desperately to elevate his falling ratings by association.

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    • 235
      Brown's PA says:

      I thought it said G.Brown embraces a boner. But that’s for later, at Cape Cod.

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    • 239
      Sir Bob Geldoff all the little people says:

      that Bono’s a right fecking hoor. Now, give me all your fuckin’ money.

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    • 303

      All you need to know about that cock Bono is here – http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article79141.ece – an eco-nazi hypocrite who flies his hat around first class. He can fuck right off.

      Him and Broon are made for each other. I too would like to see them get married. And then die.

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    Anonymous says:

    you ought to be done under a grill

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  51. 216
    Anonymous says:

    Can someone please explain why on earth we would want to see IP numbers on posts.

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    • 234
      mad fred 2 para says:

      MB,

      Please fuck off.

      Haven’t you got some soldiers compensation to claw back for Labour or something?

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      • 246
        Two Butcher's Bags for the Ministers' Heads says:

        Guido,

        Why is this foul, delirious and loathsome party-bigot permitted to disrupt and defile our online discourse with his revolting effrontery.

        No one should be accused of harming children unless it’s a serious and credible charge. It is not a tag fit for casual, offhand insults.

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      • 251
        Groucho says:

        260 – as we know, there is no depth that Labour attack dogs will not stoop to.

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      • 252
        tat says:

        he is allowed to remain because he is helping pour thousands of labour votes down the drain.
        I say: good work, and long may he be allowed to carry on with his labour suicide mission.
        excellent innit.

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    • 250
      nell says:

      Stilll don’t see the purpose of it. All it would do is inhibit discussion. I don’t know of any other blog site that displays IP addresses so why should Guido?

      Anyway if you don’t like this site, or disagree with the way its run, why are you wasting your time posting, why don’t you find a site you do like or set up one of your own?

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      • 268
        nell says:

        You are a man after gordon’s own heart – you can’t bear anyone disagreeing with you.

        To me you have a whiff of the charliewhlns about you.

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    • 305

      He is a charltan

      Athletic?

      Who cares about numbers dickweed? We’re here. I’m here. I don’t give a flying fuck how many other people are here. Particularly labour-supporting pond-life like yourself.

      I met that Charlie Whelan a couple of times on R5 – he’s a prick.

      Awful bad breath too.

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  52. 217
    ResignJustResign says:

    I notice that the Baroness cleaner can’t be found.. is that because one of the Sunday’s have stashed her away ready for a weekend of juicy revelations?

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  53. 220
    HandsomeDavid says:

    Thats nice – IP numbers on posts – big brother would like very much indeed. Future participants in the Soylent Green project.

    Give them nothing!

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  54. 226
    Engineer says:

    I read the New Statesman once. Never again – it bored me to sleep. Just a lot of pseudo-sociologist drivel with seemingly little knowledge of how the nation goes about it’s daily business of making a living (or at the moment, not making a living).

    Why is a lefty-PC mag called the New Statesman? Surely they should rename it the New Statesperson?

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  55. 230
    mad fred 2 para says:

    IP addresses on posts?

    Are you from the Labour Party policy think tank fuckwonkery unit?

    Stalinist & fascist all at the same time – close down all debate & opinions on the internet by placing a lefty Policeman in everyones head.

    Dickwad wannabe dictators, the lot of you.

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  56. 233
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    I wouldn’t wipe my arse with the News Statesman.

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  57. 238
    Hard-Glazed Floater says:

    I thought it was only American numbskulls who compared everything they hate to Hitler because they have brains the size of walnuts.
    Show me the concentration camps and the invading of Poland then we’ll talk.

    Browns a fucking terrible Prime Minister who is out of his depth in the job.
    Because of that he’s finished.
    That’s enough.
    It doesn’t require fools blunting that obvious truth by sounding hysterical.

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    • 273
      jgm2 says:

      I don’t care that he’s finished. In fact my heart soars at the thought.

      I’m far more concerned that he’s done such a thorough job of destroying the UK’s economy that we might all be finished.

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  58. 241
    It's a funny old world says:

    To-day’s smile Gordon Brown hailed as “World Statesman of the Year” – a piss take or what ??? Bono thinks Gordon is “great”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/23/gordon-brown-world-statesman

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      Groucho says:

      Some quality comments, mind.

      “Who said that Americans don’t do satire?”

      “Its like being given a humanitarian award by Idi Amin”

      etc

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    • 263
      nell says:

      It was an award given by the ‘Appeal of Conscience Foundation’.

      Don’t think either bono or gordon do anything for their honorable aims.

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    going mental says:

    Mrs dale has a story saying that david milliepede is calling all those who want a referendum on the eu treaty are extreamists , he says its on the front of the telegraph , I cant find it ?

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    works for a living says:

    A tale for our times:

    THIS IS LABOUR GOVERNMENT

    REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

    The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

    The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

    The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

    THE END

    ————————————————————————

    LABOUR GOVERNMENT THE UK VERSION

    The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

    Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

    A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

    The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

    The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

    The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel’s house. The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi-cultural choir singing ‘We shall overcome’.

    Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his ‘fair share’ and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London .

    In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

    The squirrel’s taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work. The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrel’s food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

    Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home. The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Britain ‘s apparent love of dogs.

    The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody. Initial moves to return them to their own country were abandoned, because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people’s credit cards.

    A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel’s food, though spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn’t bothered to maintain the house. He is shown to be taking drugs. Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshoppers’ drug ‘illness’.

    The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK .

    The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him.. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.

    A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost £10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up. Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for
    grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased. The government praises the asylum-seeking cats for enriching Britain ‘s multicultural diversity, and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.

    The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison. They call for the resignation of a government minister.

    The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom .

    The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses. Their taxes are increased to pay for law and order, and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

    THE END

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  61. 270
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Seeing as Bono doesnt pay taxe will he feeel happy about McMentals efforts to crackdown on “tax havens” ?

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  62. 275
    Loon Broon says:

    Here is a traffic comparison between gay.com and order-order.com:

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=gay.com%2Corder-order.com&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

    As can be seen, the fags win hands (pants) down.

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  63. 301
    Snarf Snarf says:

    They also seem to have hired a ten year old called George Eaton to pump out some of the most pretentious fucking shite I have ever read. It would be pretty sad if they were actually paying him.

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  64. 312
    Sukyspook says:

    Ahhh, Gordy was initially awarded a silver ‘apple honey dish’ and spoon on 3rd March 2009 as ‘World Statesman 2009’…..here’s the video:

    [video src="http://www.appealofconscience.org/_images/SKYN_03-03-2009_15.12.30.wmv" /]

    A honey dish eh….anyone who has a tin foil hat will ‘know’ the relevance of honey to these ‘types’.

    …and here’s a snip from Uncle Heinz’s address last evening:

    “President Sarkozy has made an invaluable contribution to

    shaping a new world order

    at a moment when major transformations are taking place simultaneously on all continents. Some of them are unprecedented: the Atlantic region, in its internal relations, has overcome the historic bane of war and is dealing with the complexities of a globalization too oblivious to social and political risk;” snip

    http://www.appealofconscience.org/news/article.cfm?id=100169

    TALK ABOUT JOBS FOR THE ‘BOYS’ EH!! pass the sick bag

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  65. 323

    Regarding Mr Hasan, New Statesman senior political editor, and his “suitablity” for that post, have a look at:

    http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2009/09/but-things-which-come-out-of-mouth-come.html

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  66. 326

    NS was quite good at the time of Iraq and for a while afterwards……..when it was a Brown outlet and happily put the boot into Blair each week!

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  67. 327
    kcorrick says:

    My, my Guido this is a very serious post about knocking the NS for being serious and look at all the reaction.

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