September 22nd, 2009

+++ UKBA Source : Baroness Scotland Served
With ‘Notice of Potential Liability’ +++

baroness scotlandBaroness Scotland has been served with a “Notice of Potential Liability”. This is the first stage before a decision is made to issue a fine. According to a single source, most of the enforcement team is keen to nail her but Lin Homer (UKBA CEO) is desperately looking for a way to avoid prosecution. Lady Scotland claims that Tapui’s passport was current and endorsed with the correct Home Office stamps, telling investigators she “knows what they look like”. However, she didn’t take copies as required by the Act. The raid only turned up an expired passport.

Tapui is said to have contacted UKBA late yesterday afternoon. Everything is on hold until the UKBA enforcement team speak to her.


282 Comments

  1. 1
    jgm2 says:

    No photocopies?

    Bang to rights.

    Ahahahahahahahahahaha.

    • 3
      Steve Expat says:

      Good to see a hoon have to deal with the same rules they impose on the rest of us.

      NOW will she resign, or is she still hoping that Broon doesn’t have the will to sack her?

    • 17
      • 31
        Road_Hog says:

        Ah but according to the BBC is is only a “technical breach”.

        • 37
          A Pensioner says:

          All breaches are “technical”. Meaningless qualifier.

        • 43
          Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

          I’ll remember that the next time I get flashed by a speed camera.

          It was only a technical breach…….

        • 58
          Old Nick Heavenly says:

          Your government are only ‘technically’ incompetent!

        • 108
          Aberdeen Angus McDayie says:

          BBC spin wants you to focus on “technical”, not on “breach”, ie the wrong word.

          Baroness Scotland is a Privy Councillor. The Privy Council has extraordinary legal powers. It can, for example, overturn any House of Lords ruling — it can, in other words, “break” a law. Such power must be (and is) used sparingly and only in extraordinary circumstances. It requires people of probity whose conscientousness is impeccable. Baroness Scotland has shown that she can break the law — like a common criminal. She is not fit to remain in the Privy Council.

          As for the Border Agency’s Lin Homer. Wikipedia says of her:

          …she went to be the chief executive of Birmingham City Council. Her time there was controversial[1]. A judge described the council as having “thrown the rule book out of the window” after a massive electoral fraud in 2005[2].

          So Lin Homer is to determine the prosecution of Baroness Scotland. Someone tell me I am dreaming…

        • 125
          Clapham Commoner says:

          The BBC is a ‘kin disgrace. Who at that commie infested rat-hole invented the term “technical breach”.

          Just wait until those state-worshipping Mandelson ****-suckers come and ask me for my license fee. I “technically” won’t pay the left-wing toss-pots.

        • 151
          Nation shall speak Socialism Unto Nation says:

          Pravada Breakfast “it was a *technical* breach and will may result in a *technical* fine…(their emphasis)

          And they are *technically* Government Shills

        • 167
          Pool says:

          Little wonder then that they is all Q ing in Calais to get a job in London. Perhaps someone should tell them New Labour is on the way out and they should get a job with a Tory shadow minister.

        • 203
          Anonymous says:

          well it seems this cleaner is a bysexual, not only up for the
          old mutton dagger but is a part time rug muncher to boot.
          I wonder what it says on her CV

    • 75
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      No, the “no photocopies” rule only applies to the little people.

      • 121
        E Z come E Z go. says:

        No deoubt she will put the 5k fine down to expenses.

        • 207
          Anonymous says:

          This is the proof that the culture of fines that has sprung up over the last years is the way of the future.

          5k is a trivial expense claim for some but disaster for most people.

          So the law only applies to the poor. Even the Attorney General just shrugs it off as a technical mistake.

          Now we have proof the lawless elite are here to stay. They did not even offer up a “manager” to take the fall.

    • 132
      Anonymous says:

      If Lin Homer interferes with the judgement of her operational staff as to whether to prosecute, she should be done for perverting the course of justice.

    • 178
      Muffin the Fool says:

      Good night Lady !

      Good night Lady !

      It’s time to say goodbye!

      Goodnight !

      • 228
        Short on respect says:

        25 March 2008
        PACKAGE OF REFORMS TO HISTORIC ROLE OF
        ATTORNEY GENERAL ANNOUNCED
        Following a four-month consultation Baroness Scotland has today outlined reforms that will mean a number of significant changes to the historic role of the Attorney General.
        …….
        Emphasising role as guardian of the rule of law
        Proposed reform: The Attorney General’s oath of office will be amended to require her to “respect the rule of law”.
        No change is proposed to the role of the Attorney as the Government’s chief legal adviser. But the change to the oath will re-emphasise the basis on which the Attorney gives legal advice and exercises her functions in the public interest, rather than on the basis of political convenience or party loyalty.
        As the oath of the Attorney is currently not a statutory one, this change can be made without legislation.

    • 275
      Not at home says:

      Guido – wait a minute. Isn’t there a bigger question here?

      Is the Noble Baroness, member of the House of Lords, the Cabvinet and Privy Councillor, with access to heaven knows what in terms of national secrets, really expecting us to believe that she took on said cleaner, with the free run of the house and all that it contains, without having her security vetted?

      Surely she must have been vetted and if so, surely the vetting would have revealed that her status was not exactly straightforward … ?

      Are there cabinet guidelines on employing staff with said level of access, and did the noble baroness comply with them?

      Dear me …

  2. 2
    Right Bastard says:

    Like Mangledbum did twice, she should resign. That way she could be reincarnated as a bad smell.

    • 115
      Ere cum Uropean gravy train says:

      Yep the head law honcho for Europe is bound to be better paid than the UK’s. Her resignation will be little more than a career move into Europe.

  3. 4
    A Pensioner says:

    She said she’d seen the passport stamps – then she’s a liar as well as guilty as charged.

    • 14
      jgm2 says:

      Doesn’t matter if she did see them. Doesn’t matter if they existed.

      No photocopy?

      Bang to rights.

      Ahahahahahahahahaha.

    • 273
      AJC says:

      Someone is (right now) printing a convincing fake. The could do it in a POW camp – should be a doddle to run one up.

  4. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Lin Homer – the idiot in charge of the UKBA who is turning a blind eye to the activities of G4S, the outfit responsible for physically removing the detainees, e.g., allowing their agents to partake is such work but without the identification required by the Immigration and Asylum Act, 1999!

    Homer couldn’t arrange a piss up in a brewery.

    • 11
      Papasmurf says:

      “Lin Homer (UKBA CEO) is desperately looking for a way to avoid prosecution.”

      Now why does it not surprise me that the top manager wants to avoid upsetting the bosses? Note the team want to nail her ie the honest worker sees it, gets it but the prat at the top doesn’t want to. Time for a change at the top.

      • 34
        Road_Hog says:

        Homer, urbandictionary covers it well.

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homer

        2. Pull a Homer: to succeed despite idiocy.

      • 248
        Anonymous says:

        I can assure you that it has always been thus. The caseworkers want, and try, to enforce the law but senior officers wring their hands, especially once an MP gets involved. Lin Homer has not worked her way up through the system, and nor have a lot of the senior staff these days. That should tell you everything. It doesn’t really change, whatever flavour the government is.

    • 72
      udderly 'orrible says:

      Homer another machine-made Liebour misfit:

      (Wikipedia)
      Lin Homer, CB, is head of the UK Border Agency. She was born in Norfolk and educated in Suffolk. After attending university in London she qualified as a lawyer in Reading before spending 15 years at Hertfordshire and joining Suffolk County Council as chief executive in 1998.

      From Suffolk she went to be the chief executive of Birmingham City Council. Her time there was controversial[1]. A judge described the council as having “thrown the rule book out of the window” after a massive electoral fraud in 2005[2]. However, a former Labour leader of the council described her as “one of the best chief executives I have had the privilege to work alongside”[1]

      After three years there she joined the civil service as the head of the Immigration and Nationality Directorate in August 2005. Her leadership of the Immigration and Nationality Directorate, (later to be renamed Border and Immigration Agency and, later still, the UK Border Agency), has also been marred by controversy, most notably the scandals concerning the failure to deport foreign national criminals which led to the resignation of the then Home Secretary Charles Clarke.

      She was appointed Companion of the Order of the Bath (CB) in the 2008 Birthday Honours

  5. 6
    Throbber says:

    The cleaners current passport will turn up miraculously with the correct stamp in it, just watch.

  6. 7
    Message from Brown to the "Little People" - Piss Off says:

    “A technical breach” only apparently – media whipping things up etc etc- a honest mistake no effect on Lady Scotland performing her job(which of course she does extremely well!)Could happen to any of us.End of matter blah blah blah

  7. 8
    Troughy says:

    (Brought forward)

    “Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said Lady Scotland wishes to apologise for “any inadvertent mistake”. ”

    This just added to Pravda’s report.

    Apology neither believed or accepted. Clear your fucking desk.

    And on a lighter, off-topic note, Dutchman, Henk van Gaddafi has been seeking accomodation in NY:

    http://tiny.cc/ji0dz

  8. 9
    Ctesibius says:

    What’s the story with this Homer woman. Wikipedia includes: “she went to be the chief executive of Birmingham City Council. Her time there was controversial. A judge described the council as having “thrown the rule book out of the window” after a massive electoral fraud in 2005. However, a former Labour leader of the council described her as “one of the best chief executives I have had the privilege to work alongside”

    • 163
      Desperate Dan says:

      He would have regarded her as a ‘best chief exec’ because the postal voting fraud that she refused to investigate favoured the Labour Party.

    • 202
      Thats News says:

      Oh. Would it have been Albert Bore? Mr perfect? Just ask any Brummie. They’ll tell you how respected he is…

  9. 10
    Willsteed says:

    And looking at the BBC right now… you have this piece of Labour-leaning misreporting. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8268101.stm

    ‘Lady Scotland risks migrant fine

    Lady Scotland oversees criminal prosecutions in England and Wales
    The attorney general is in “technical breach” [ah, trying to make light of it] of rules [they're laws and not rules] on employing migrant workers, the BBC understands.

    Baroness Scotland is expected to be fined after employing a housekeeper from Tonga who did not have the right to work in the UK.

    But she has not been asked to resign, according to government sources.

    The minister has said she employed Loloahi Tapui in good faith [that's no get out, you even drafted the laws] and thought [not enough, you need to have inspected and copied and retained proof of the maids right to work] she was working legally following the investigation by the UK Border Agency.

    Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said Lady Scotland wishes to apologise for “any inadvertent mistake”. [mistake!?]

    She had contacted the authorities herself to ask them to conduct a “thorough” investigation in order to assure the country and herself she had taken “the necessary steps” when hiring Ms Tapui, he said. [well she hadn't taken the necessary steps... as has been reported almost ad nauseum. That is precisely why there is such outrage about this].

    Laws [ah its laws now, not rules?] state that employers must check to verify their staff’s right to work in the UK. [they have deeper requirements than just that (refer above)]

    Those who knowingly give take on illegal workers face a two-year prison sentence and unlimited fine, while those who do it unknowingly face a £10,000 fine. [So UKBA... which is going to be? Prepare for neither I reckon...]

    ———————-

    Amazing to see the BBC just publish what is clearly a Downing Street briefing.

    • 15
      Steve Expat says:

      If the passport copy she had is expired, then I would say that’s knowingly employing someone illegally (IANAL) – prison sentence coming up?

      • 19
        jgm2 says:

        If I read the stuff earlier in the thread then there is an expired passport. But no photocopy in Scotland’s possession.

        Bang to rights.

        Better than her have been fined 5,000 quid.

      • 23
        Dack Blog says:

        They were talking two and a half grand on the news this morning. If she’s been lying I’m VERY disappointed. I’m going to be binning my ‘Baroness Scotland’ fridge magnet, no question.

      • 243
        Holey Moley says:

        Prison sentence? Ha. Get a grip son. She won’t even lose her job.

    • 27
      Sukyspook says:

      Ah yes, paying Baal – and yes, apparently ‘bail’ really means Baal!!

      It’s similar to buying your way into heaven through paying other humans for redemption. Trouble is, one day we will all have to pay – but not in “money” or as it’s become of late: “numbers on a screen”…

    • 44
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      Misreporting?

      On BBC by the end of the day it will be “Lady Scotland risks migraine”.

    • 182
      Peter Grimes says:

      ‘Amazing to see the BBC just publish what is clearly a Downing Street briefing.’

      Nothing new in that, is there?

  10. 16
    A technical breach of the rules says:

    Its a technical breach of the rules!!

  11. 20
    Exiled in Wales says:

    Lin Homer (from Wikipedia)

    Another socialist scumbag

    She was born in Norfolk and educated in Suffolk. After attending university in London she qualified as a lawyer in Reading before spending 15 years at Hertfordshire and joining Suffolk County Council as chief executive in 1998.

    From Suffolk she went to be the chief executive of Birmingham City Council. Her time there was controversial. A judge described the council as having ‘thrown the rule book out of the window’ after a massive electoral fraud.

    Her leadership of the UK Border Agency has also been marred by controversy, most notably the scandals concerning the failure to deport foreign national criminals which led to the resignation of the then Home Secretary Charles Clarke.

    Scotland is off the hook.

    • 26
      anonymous says:

      there’s more to this woman than meets the eye …. her time in Hertfordshire was spent as her breeding ground for later actions…..

      • 242
        Susie says:

        Which is why, people, if you notice corruption, even at Parish Council level (as I have), you have to make a stink and expose it. Before they go on the greater things. Leopards never change their spots.

        In this bloody country at every bloody level we are ruled by corrupt, often disguised as incompetent (their excuse) bastards.

    • 82
      Exiled in Wales says:

      @UO- apologies for cross-posting.

  12. 21
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    The raid only turned up an expired passport.

    What a surprise.

    • 30
      Sukyspook says:

      At least M Atta’s passport was in tact and fully up to date as it fluttered down into the debris of the WTC…

    • 42
      A Pensioner says:

      What odds this now morphs into a justification for ID cards?

      • 274
        Frech Frogs ID's that cause says:

        The French have already used that ID card excuse yesterday against the UK. They said that the whole problem with the illegals in France who want to come into the UK is caused by the UK not having ID cards.

        Apparently the illegals are NOT being drawn to the UK as being the ONLY stupid country of the 27 EUSSR countries to offer illegals instant benefits and a place to live.

        ID cards would solve the problems of illegals in Calais!

  13. 22
    Sukyspook says:

    Maybe there’s something in the Civil Contingencies Act to cover employing illegal aliens who are presumably, until “rubber stamped”, potential “terrsts”??

    (the use of that word has probably already set GCHQ bells ringing lol).

    It would be glorious if Ms Scota were to be ‘taken down’ by this guvmint’s fascist legislation bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    • 53
      Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

      I think you mean Terrorist.

      Is that any thing to do with making Bombs or the use of Explosives?

      If that doesn’t get me a knock on the door at 3:00 then I’m a Dutchman

  14. 24
    anonymous says:

    Interesting that the media are highlighting a police raid on illegal immigrants with this story 3rd or 4th in the pecking order. Funny how this medacious government has total control over the ‘news’ we get to hear….

  15. 25
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    I did a search for Lin Homer, and came up with this:

    http://dematerialisedid.com/BCSL/eOdyssey.html

    If it is even half true, then it would seem as if we would be better off without her.

    I know the Government wants to ban BOGOF’s, but in this case a TWOFER would seem to be a desirable outcome.

    • 96
      Blumpkin says:

      good link – thank you

    • 219
      I'll have some of that says:

      Fantastic! While you notice things happening day to day, you forget just what a long, slow disaster of a train wreck this administration has become. Idiocy piled upon idiocy, ministers and bureaucrats never held to account, just moved elsewhere to compound further damage, presided over by a certifiable lunatic abetted by a compliant MSM……great link, thanks

  16. 28
    Give me my t-shirt! says:

    07:30am news on radio4. The newsreader said (paraphrased): Barroness Scotland has a case to answer for employing an im ah a migrant. Those Labour controlled editing suites at the BBC are at it again.Changing an illegal immigrant into a migrant. Change the word,change the emphasis.The sooner the BBC is broken up,the better and these Lefty rats in their nest are exposed (at least for a little while).

  17. 29

    [...] General, Baroness Scotland, is expected to be fined for employing an illegal immigrant; indeed, Guido has just reported that the UK Border Agency has already served her with a formal notice of [...]

  18. 32
    Fred Goodwin's Duck Palace says:

    apparently fined but government “source” says she won’t have to resign
    wonder how many people will cite her case if they fall foul of the law now ?

  19. 33

    And none of this appeared on last nights main news. I wonder why? This country really is in a terminal mess. I don’t want it fixing (too much like hard work) I just want out.

  20. 35
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t get it. Illegal immigrants pay people trafficers many thousands of pounds to get them into the UK just so that they can earn two quid an hour selling kebabs.

    • 46
      Phil O'Pastree says:

      As opposed to a pound a day back home.

      • 78
        Mr Idiot says:

        A lot of them come over here looking for work, and end up being conned into being operated on and having their eyes, kidneys and heart taken out for illegal transplants.

        There was a documentary on BBC1 last night about it… very interesting viewing, and has certainly made me think twice about the whole situation.

        Unsurprisingly, for the BBC, they didn’t mention Baroness Scotland once. Nor did they criticise Labour’s mismanagement of the NHS that has lead to such desperate times…

        (Btw, did her cleaner have the correct amount of organs in her body when the police caught up with her??)

        • 89
          Loonysmurf says:

          Mr Idiot… you are so right and did you notice how the police condoned a murder at the end of the doc? They didn’t even say they were passing the file to the authorities…scandalous.

        • 105
          Mr Idiot says:

          I was shocked and appalled, Loonysmurf.
          It’s made me think twice about crossing our local constable, whose involvement I’m now beginning to suspect in the disappearance of our milkman who hasn’t been seen for a whole week – there’s talk about the village of him having taken off to Spain with his family, but why would a man make such a journey at this time of year? It’s fanciful stuff.
          I’m toying with the idea of contacting Mrs Fletcher, who’s daily documentary on the BBC enthrals me, to come and investigate the case. I don’t know who I can turn to, or who I can trust…

        • 119
          Loonysmurf says:

          I hate to say it but you need to think outside the box. The natural justice you seek can no longer be found in our traditional outlets. Our WI meeting just the other day were debating over tea and scones this very area. They concluded that the offer that these good people offer should start to replace our laws…. http://shariahcouncil.org/Home.htm

          Should we start an agency to investigate ‘happenings’? Any chance of a Government grant?

        • 134
          Mr Idiot says:

          Indeed I have asked for the help of this ‘Grant’. Mr Mitchell has a military background, and since leaving the Parachute Regiment has gained a fascinating insight into the workings of the everyday man during his time running a popular drinking establishment. With skills such as these, he surely would be the man to come to my aid…

          Unfortunately my letters pleading for help were returned as ‘undeliverable’ by the Post Office, who I’m now beginning to suspect of supporting the agents of these heinous crimes. How can a man who was featured on a 4 nights a week documentary on the BBC not be located in London town? I would journey to visit him in person, but alas I fear I could not afford the congestion charge…

        • 143
          Mr Idiot says:

          Indeed I have asked for the help of this ‘Grant’. Mr Mitchell has a military background, and during his time since leaving the Parachute Regiment has gained a fascinating insight into the workings of the everyday man during his time running a popular drinking establishment. With skills such as these, he surely would be the man to come to my aid…

          Unfortunately my letters pleading for help were returned as ‘undeliverable’ by the Post Office, who I’m now beginning to suspect of supporting the agents of these heinous crimes. How can a man who was featured on a 4 nights a week documentary on the BBC not be located in London town? I would journey to visit him in person, but alas I fear I could not afford the congestion charge…

        • 262
          Jan says:

          Surely that was Waking The Dead with Trevor Eve? Fiction I believe.( At least the illegals weren’t VAT registered hard working,honest Albanians as in New Tricks). Over the coming months we will see more biaised drama from Al-Jabeeba showing illegals,benefit cheats,Nu-Liebor,suicide Muslim bombers etc in a good light.

  21. 36
    Form an orderly queue says:

    When we eventually hang Brown,this nonentity will be next

  22. 38

    Outrageous spinning from the BBC on this – a “technical breach”. Reckon if I shot Gordon Brown in the head it would be considered a “technical breach” of the law against murder?

    Cameron has *got* to deal with the BBC; he needs to get on those tossers’ arses on Day One, or he’ll be fighting a rearguard action every day after that. Root and branch reform – explain with a big stick what bipartisan means. And not just in the news – every damn PC drama seems to tell the same bloody dreary story. Men bad, white men worst of all, black women very competant and straight – hey, like Baroness Scotland! Maybe it’s true?

    I hate the BBC more than I hate Gordon Brown – I’m quite impressed with that…

  23. 40
    Enlightened Opinion says:

    Lady Scotland should be fined additionally for being so fucking ugly she’s highly likely to frighten the horses.

    • 94
      MisterE says:

      I’m sorry, but your comment is typical of this blog…
      I’ll have you know that her ‘unfortunate’ appearance in the result of a terrible incident – back during her university days a faulty, overfilled Zippo lighter accidentally set light to her face & the only way to extinguish the flames was to beat them back with a spade. Luckily, at the time, the accident happened right next-door to a building site – it took six of them half an hour before they had the blaze under control!

  24. 40
    Papasmurf says:

    “Everything is on hold until the UKBA enforcement team speak to her.”

    Now that is an interesting development.

    Scotland has now given her account but Loloahi hasn’t. If I were Loloahi I would make a statement stating the Scotland knew all along of her status and was complicit in allowing her to work. Thus this would make her an important witness in the case. THe AG would then have a very difficult task in getting herself out of that. Loloahi may even be allowed to stay in the country to enable a prosecution that “is in the public interest.”

    Roll on the trial.

    • 55
      Steve Expat says:

      Either you’re right, or else Loloahi will be quickly and quietly deported to aavoid causing too much of a fuss.

      As much as we’d all like to see Patty sent to jail, we all know that the rules don’t apply to the pigs. Would be funny if this story is still around for the conference next week though!

      • 65
        Papasmurf says:

        Why would Loloahi be the one to contact the UKBA? Oh I am here please deport me???!!! No, she has got her story sorted and the best form of defence is attack.

        Now who do we believe, the AG who has lied about seeing a valid passport which we know does not exist because it is out of date or was a forgery. There being no valid visa therein and who states she knows what a visa looks like?

        Or

        An illegal overstayer who is working to earn a crust and whose biggest crime appears to be that she wants to stay in a country whose economy is going down the tubes?

        Answer = Loloahi

      • 73

        Tapui is said to have contacted UKBA late yesterday afternoon.

        Who will wager that Ms Tapui didn’t have several conversations with her former employer/ AN Apparatchik (doubtless with the assistance of some schyster of a lawyer) before she deigned to contact the authorities? Further, who’s willing to wager that those conversations weren’t about securing a fast tracked aproval of her request for a Leave to Remain including all proper documentation and registration for her and her extended family?

      • 81
        Road_Hog says:

        Her husband is Serbian born with UK nationality, does that give her the right to stay in the country?

        I could always try asking them on Facebook, they’re both on it, she’s on it with his surname added to hers or alternatively look him up and she’s listed under his friends.

        • 104
          Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

          According to something I saw she has a right to remain here because to deport her would deprive her of her human right to a family life, seriously, I’m not making it up.

          There were suggestions in the Mail article that she was multi skilled.

        • 107
          Papasmurf says:

          what uses TWO hands to clean + uses her bottom to wipe the floor as she goes along?

        • 148
          Right Bastard says:

          She can walk up the stairs and fart at the same time.

        • 155
          Article 38 says:

          Don’t forget Tonga is threatened by global warming sea level rises. Sending her back would infringe her human right not to drown.

      • 122
        Captain Haddock says:

        In the highly unlikely event that Scotland does go to prison .. she might then play her spare “trump” card .. and claim she’s a Dyke ..

      • 133
        STATE MURDERER says:

        There Again She Might Be Found Dead In The woods Who Knows ?

        • 157
          Dysgwrcymraeg says:

          Please dont give these hoons any more ides, they probably haven’t thought up that solution yet.

    • 64
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      More likely to be the other way round – if she tells a story that helps Scotland off the hook she’ll be promised she can stay because her overstaying was only a ‘technical breach’.

    • 87
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      Hm. If she does look as if she’s going to testify against the Baroness, I think she’d be wise not to go for any walks alone in the woods.

  25. 47
    anonymouse in the Treasury skirting boards says:

    What about the £170,000 of expenses claimed in error?

  26. 47
    DelBoy says:

    Go God’s sake go.

  27. 49
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    She didn’t copy the passport because she didn’t look at it.
    The UKBA only found an expired passport because Tapui had overstayed her original visa and passport validity.

    Scotland has rather kindly gone on the record saying that she had seen a non-existent passport and checked visas that were never given, compounding the original error with a barefaced lie. It was ever thus.

    I think that a fine of £170,000 would be appropriate, plus a few months at Her Majesty’s pleasure for reflection and contemplation would be appropriate.

    If Lin Homer persist in trying to bury this then I hope that there are one or two juicy leaks from those good men and women at the UKBA.

    The wall is going to be mighty crowded come the revolution.

  28. 51
    alistewart says:

    So far Sky not touching this story. Boulton is with the Libdems and haven’t seen anything from Bournemouth either. But on the Beeb even Mcguire suggeting it will be tough for her to keep her job. The expenses issue seems to have been dropped for Scotland

    Can it relly be the case that the whole G’vnt and political class is entirely above the laws of their own making?

  29. 52
    Dr Carnivore says:

    The issue is one of her resigning, and apparently she hasn’t been asked.

    I repeat:

    Baroness Patricia Janet Scotland of Asthal, born on the 19 August 1955 in Dominica of Antiguan and Dominican parents and having moved to Walthamstow at the age of three, where you attended Walthamstow School for Girls and having since, by some miracle poorly understood, become raised to the peerage and now occupying the position of Attorney General, yes Attorney General in the Government of the United Kingdom and having ultimate oversight on all law: will you please RESIGN forthwith, without delay, without bitter imprecations of racism, from your employment by said Government and from all public duties where money is involved, and will you further please take yourself back to the land of your birth and STAY THERE?

    No, I didn’t think so.

    • 164
      MrPeregrination says:

      Don’t be a twat. She arrived here when she was 3 for fucks sake – whether you like it or not she’s as British as you are. Her place of birth has nothing to do with anything.

      She needs to resign because she’s a thief who likes to write laws and then not follow them. Once she has resigned she needs to go to jail for the expenses theft. Then, after 50 years in jail she can come out and live happily in this country like any other British citizen.

      • 200
      • 246
        Susie says:

        I don’t think so. At the time (1950s) where you were born mattered a great deal.

        My British parents met, married and lived in Jamaica, I was born in the early 1950s (like Scottie) and my pregnant mother had to cross the Atlantic back to Britain to give birth to me, otherwise I wouldn’t have a British passport and, as my father’s job involved many foreign postings, if I’d been born in Jamaica, it would have prevented me accompanying them.

      • 260
        Dr Carnivore says:

        No, she’s certainly not as British as me, by definition: I was actually born here. I am not an immigrant. Simples.

  30. 56
    JohnOfEnfield says:

    Has Baroness Scotland got ANY principles. Has Gordon Brown got ANY balls?

    I look forward to the first court case where a “white gang master” puts up the same defence as the Attorney General. Who can deny now that we live in a totalitarian state?

    PS – The only good thing to come out of this debate so far is the concept of a
    “Baroness Scotland Fridge Magnet”!

    • 60
      Dr Carnivore says:

      I’ll stick it on my Smeg.

    • 63
      A Pensioner says:

      They don’t make fridges that big.

    • 69
      Steve Expat says:

      No and No, to your two questions.

      Let’s hope this is still live for the Liars’ conference next week, it’s a dangerous precident as you say, not to throw the same book at the AG as they would at others employing illegals

    • 76
      Moley says:

      The white gang master getting ten years in gaol for doing exactly the same as the Attorney general won’t be reported.

      We’ll never know.

    • 88
      genghiz the kahn says:

      What about a Baroness Scotland Midge Magnet?

      At least it could be put to some use in the West Highands.

    • 278
      Stalins Organ says:

      JoE
      Has Baroness Scotland got ANY principles. Has Gordon Brown got ANY balls?

      Nope, they are in Mandelson’s pocket;

  31. 57
    Big Massive Wood says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215198/Baroness-Scotland-facing-10-000-unknowingly-employing-illegal-immigrant-housekeeper.html

    “Gordon Brown, who had earlier expressed his confidence in the minister, pointedly today failed to say if she would keep her job.”

    None of them are going to keep their jobs.

    • 93
      Troughy says:

      08:28 in ‘comments’. Steve Moxon says she’s ‘toast’.

      Sky saying Border Agency has slapped a £5k fine on her ass and ‘she doesn’t feel it’s a resigning matter’.

      That, Pat, remains to be seen.

  32. 59
    Onan the Rotarian says:

    I just could not fucking believe it, it passed even what I had come to expect of this bunch of lickspittle cowardly c’unts at the Beeb. A TECHNICAL BREACH OF THE LAW? A TECHNICAL BREACH OF THE LAW? I naively imagined that even the BBC could not manage to spin this favourably on Gordo’s behalf. Excuse me, I have to go and take some pills, my heart, my heart … oooh ….

  33. 68
    J R Hartley says:

    Unless the passports were forged, Scotland is toast and should resign/be fired.

    There is no technical breach as the BBC is spinning – you check AND copy. No copies = law broken, your own law M’am.

    Things can only get better.

  34. 70
    REEVO says:

    Hahaha

    I love it.

    You always can tell who the establishment are, and when they are in a hole.

    They are the ones covered in crap digging away at the bottom of a hole.

    Technical breach hahahahahahaah

    • 100
      OKTOBER says:

      Err… yes officer technically speaking it was the car that was speeding, I was not moving inside the car.

      Err… yes officer I know but, technically speaking it was the pen that filled in my expenses claim.

      Err yes officer I know but, I am not an idiot MP, its those that vote for me….

    • 266
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Next time they ask you why you haven’t paid the telly tax just say it was a technical breech :-)

  35. 71
    BARONESS STRAP ON says:

    If This “Lin Homer” Wont ProSecute Her Then She Should Be Removed From Her Post ASAP And Replaced With Someone Who Will !

    • 102
      Homer's a Hoon says:

      Homer was the cυnt who broke down in tears when questioned by the judge under oath over ‘banana republic’ goings on in electoral fraud in her job as Birmingham City council chief exec. The judge should have been arrested and jailed for assaulting a poor woman who was only trying to do her job (£250k/yr + exes.), that of covering up the endemic fraud in elections in B’ham. See most recent fraud, continuing – just last week in Roy Hattersley’s old ward, B’ham Sparkbrook – where the police have again been called in over hundreds of fraudulent postal votes.

  36. 74
    BARONESS STRAP ON says:

    Everybody Who Has Already Been Fined Under HER Law Should Apply For A Full Refund !

  37. 77
    anonymous says:

    very little in the MSM on this story. I’ve only found these:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6217039/Attorney-General-likely-to-be-fined-for-employing-illegal-immigrant.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pm-refuses-to-pass-judgment-on-baroness-1791287.html

    there’s nothing inn the Guardian or the Times.

    It comes to something when you can’t even get our own news in our own country – get rid of ‘em all

  38. 79
    I ABBY HUGHES MIKE HOCK says:

    The French Police Will Close The “Jungle” today So Expect Fucking Truck Loads Of Them Comming Over By Tonight !

  39. 80
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Technical breach? WTF is that? Is that the same thing as if I went into a bank with a sawn-off shotgun and came out with a couple of holdalls stuff with cash, then I would have committed a “technical breach” of the laws on armed robbery?

  40. 83
    genghiz the kahn says:

    If you write the laws, then break them. You resign. Even a meerkat knows this. Simples.

    • 208

      In a late development Baroness Scotfree said that Winston Churchill has been forced to resign as Prime Minister following a smoking episode at No. 10, such resignation being backdated to 10th May 1940. As a result the keys to the United Kingdom are being handed over to the successor’s to the National Socialists in Berlin later this morning.

  41. 84
    Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215025/Father-arrested-carrying-citizens-arrest-yobs-threw-apples-wife.html

    What about his one? Nice to see the law applies to everyone, even the innocent.

    • 118
      Old Nick Heavenly says:

      Bog standard story for United Condom.

      I was a serial intervener in ugly situations when I used to live in Shithole UK!

      Big, ugly, samurai hippy!

      I would have been banged up by now!

      Your country is beyond redemption!

    • 251
      Susie says:

      An uncle of my hairdresser who lives in the next village got a visit from the police about an old apple tree in his front garden.

      Apparently motorists had complained about groups of youths throwing apples at passing cars and the police asked him to cut the tree down (even though the youths would have had to trespass into the garden to get the apples). When asked why the police didn’t arrest the youths for criminal damage and trespass, the police said they ‘didn’t have the resources’.

  42. 90
    Moley says:

    This is what happens when you commit a “Technical breach” of EU law and are not the Attorney General.

    Fisherman have boat seized as “proceeds of crime” and are imprisoned for attempting to mortgage their house to pay the fine.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5177478/French-fishermen-speak-out-against-the-frightening-imprisonment-of-British-comrades.html

  43. 91
    Anonymous says:

    £5000… Official.
    As reported by Sky News.

  44. 95

    Let’s face it, this undeserving peeress is guiltier than a puppy sat next to a pile of poo.

    That simple fact notwothstanding, she will not be punishednor will she be asked to resign. The entire corrupt apparat, from Cabinet to the BBC to the political placeman in charge of the Border Agency will all rally around and protect one of their own.

    These scumbags are worse than the bloody Freemasons. Hell! They are worse than most of the corrupt regimes on this benighted continent.

  45. 97
    I ABBY HUGHES MIKE HOCK says:

    Hey Scotland You Fucking Dope ! You Really Should Havr Read The Law Before You Employed Her ! Ha ha Ha ! Cough Up You Plank !

  46. 103
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    If I understand correctly, there’s a huge difference between unknowingly employing an illegal immigrant and knowingly employing one. The former just gives you civil fine, which no doubt she’ll just claim on expenses anyway, and the latter has an unlimited fine and jail time to go with it.

    Now, given that she wrote the laws on immigration and is in a far better position to check passports, work permits etc than almost anyone else, how can she possibly claim that she didn’t know she was employing an illegal immigrant? I really hope she doesn’t get away with the lesser charge. That would be an absolute travesty of justice.

    • 114
      Moley says:

      She didn’t bother because she knew that her position in the Government exempted her from any requirement to obey the law.

      It is now an established principle that the political classes are exempt from the law which is used only as an instrument of oppression and to control the innocent.

      Definition of Police State.

      • 153

        Yup. One law for all or the law is illegitimate. This State has no legitimacy.

        There’s a fine position. Now what do we do?

        • 271
          Mongrel says:

          Whatever we like, I suppose, although a police state will usually try harder to enforce illegitimate laws than legitimate ones, so you are more likely to get away with fraud or mugging than smoking in a public building or chasing foxes.

  47. 110
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    She’ll get away with a slap on the wrist because she is a minority who has some influence and sway.

  48. 111
    the pro from dover says:

    2 points

    1- this is called institutional corruption, better start living with it. Lots of the rest of the world we used to look down on has it. We are now a fully-fledged third world ‘democracy’.

    2- Isn’t the husband a lawyer specialising in immigration? Hasn’t he a case to answer with his professional body? He surely can’t feign ignorance.

  49. 112
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry, not happy with just a £5K fine.

    Want a full DNA swab – get her on the database!

    Also, the small matter of £170,000 of our money she had hed when she shouldn’t.

    I notice she’s now referring to the allowances in legal terms as to whether it was “illegal” for these payments.

    No dear, it something called morals. You may have heard of them.

    Legally, does it say you have to be a member of the house of Lords to get this? Probably not so I’ll have my ~£40k annual allowance please.

    And to think we fine people for putting bins out on the worng day….

    Guido – you know all of this stuff inside out and masses more I should imagine. Don’t you have blood pressure problems from it?

  50. 113
    Peter Grimes says:

    Presumably Lin Homer will want to exercise the same degree of discretion to all other employers of immigrants, thereby blowing yet another hole in our ‘immigration policy’!

  51. 120
    mad fred 2 para says:

    One law for New Labour elites, one law for the rest of us.

    Two legs good…….

    With each passing day that the Attorney General stays in her job thousands more people abandon the idea of a just society where the law applies equally to everyone.

    She is also driving borderline “un-mentionables” voters onto their team.

    If ever a situation showed how weak McMental it is this one.

    Where is the Gorgon? Any comment from him?

  52. 124
    I ABBY HUGHES MIKE HOCK says:

    SACK THE FUCKING LOT OF THESE THIEVING SCUM ! This Country Would Be Better Off Being Run By All Those Nice Old Ladies that Used To work Behind The counters Of Our Now Defunct Post offices !

  53. 127
    purpleline says:

    fined 5 grand technical breach of the rules. so fudge for a fudge packing cabal.
    >>>>>>>breaking news<<<<<<<<<<

  54. 130
    nell says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6217212/Gordon-Brown-fails-to-give-full-support-to-Baroness-Scotland.html

    Gordon’s backtracking! Says he will have to see the UK Border Agency report due out this morning before deciding whether to sack her.

    Dither. dither. dither. This man just cannot take a decision!!!

  55. 136
    Anonymous says:

    Amazing to see the BBC just publish what is clearly a Downing Street briefing.”

    Will-if you are still “amazed” at what the BBC says, after what the rest of us have known for years, then you are clearly a Hoon of the first order!

    • 161

      C’mon – give him a break. There’s millions of people in this country who still trust those bastards at the BBC. We need to get them onside, not to abuse them. It’s going to take time and persistence to convince people that this country has – in one generation – transformed into a corrupt, illegitimate banana republic. Umm. Banana monarchy. The first step is to deligitimise the BBC – every fucking word they say, every programme they make, every question they frame must be challenged. Everyone has to know that this rotten organisation is as complicit in the assault on the British people as the Stasi were in the GDR.

    • 217

      Will you fercrissakes please stop wasting your time referring here to drivel spouted on the BBC “news” website. You might as well report the loon-juice fuelled rantings on Pris*n Plan*t for all the impartial objective sense the state broadcaster imbues the situation with.

  56. 138
    who dealt the smell? says:

    The law relating to Employing illegal immigrants deliberately a clearly defined absolute law, designed to prevent intelligent rich individuals from taking advantage of vulnerable people.

    rather than, as is suggested, Baroness Scotland has “accidently” become embroiled in this case, I would suggest that the law was designed specifically to catch people like Baroness Scotland who would ordinarily worm their way out of legal liability with the use of expensive lawyers

  57. 139
    Dysgwrcymraeg says:

    The faces of the beeb presenters news 24 looking as if they are chewing a wasp, even if only saying it was “technical” is a sight for sore eyes, this morning.!
    Great to see the twats forced to mention the case.

  58. 142
    Anonymous says:

    Even the news on Classic FM talked of a “technical breach” this morning.

    Something fishy going on here, all these media buggers are at trying to cover things up when all right-thinking folk intuitively KNOW shes been caught bang to rights.

    Send her down…

    • 168
      jgm2 says:

      Article in Grauniad explained why the meeja luvvies are loe-key on this one. Because a lot of them will have cleaners, maids, au-pairs and such-like whose photocopied passport is likewise not sitting in a drawer in the filing cabinet.

      A lot of panicked phonecalls will have been happening over the weekend. They’ve only belatedly realised that they too are in the frame for a £5000 fine.

      ‘Yes, hello, hi Bruscellosis, hi, it’s Jane. Jane – your employer – could you be a dear and bring in your passport on Monday? Ciao.’

      • 180
        jgm2 says:

        loe? loe? WTF. low-key. Jeeeesus.

      • 241
        Odds Bodkins says:

        I think you are probably right, our illustrious leaders are probably making a lot more use of the subterranean economy than is commonly supposed. Cheap and probably take a lot of shit too, don’t want to kick up much of a fuss and all that.

        If I was an investigative journalist wanting to make a name for myself, it would feel like a mosquito let loose in a nudist camp, the number of juicy stories out there.

    • 279
      Stalins Organ says:

      on the maid?

  59. 145
    5k isnt enough she should be sacked says:

    Lady Scotland fine 5k according to a poster on pb

  60. 146
    Trev says:

    The Passport Agency should have a record of the passport anyway surely?

    What about her 170k expenses scam??

    • 156
      Steve Expat says:

      Don’t the Passport Agengy deal with British passports, the Immigration Service deal with Foreigners’ passports?

  61. 147
    Marcus Oatckaes says:

    aren’t many breaches of the law “technical”

    for example, any conviction relating to non payment of tax is a “technical” breach

  62. 149
    nell says:

    Oh Dear poor gordon !! He’s in America this week for G20 and now his request for a one to one meeting with Omaha has been refused.

    Apparently Omaha does not share Prezza’s opinion of gordon as a world class statesman and does not wish to meet him!

    • 236
      Brown - the breakfast view says:

      Can you imagine what Obama tells his wife about his views on the fraudster Brown when they are sitting having breakfast;
      “Yeah honey,that slobbering nonentity with the jaw – you know the one – renamed Omaha Beach after me and writes about the very thing he hasn’t got – courage – pass the toast dear….”

    • 269
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      He’s got enough on his plate as it is. The last thing he wants is the curse of Jonah McDoom

  63. 150
    ResignJustResign says:

    Gordon Brown classic spin and attempt to redefine the issue. He told GMTV:

    “The question is whether she knowingly did not look at the passport or the documents of the person that she was employing or whether she did do that but she did not keep a copy of the documents.

    “We will have to find out what has actually happened and I will have to wait for that report this morning and she will want to answer the questions that are put to her. We will have to make decisions.”

    In other words, lets try to redefine the question…. IMHO the question is fairly straightforward – did she break the law..

    • 234
      Murdochs PR Company says:

      “The question is whether she knowingly did not look at the passport or the documents of the person that she was employing or whether she did do that but she did not keep a copy of the documents.”

      By this definition either way she should be up for prosecution and Jail time.
      If she knowingly didnt check, she’s banged to rights.
      If she looked but didn’t keep copies she must have KNOWN she was an illegal, and therfore is banged to rights.

      I think the feacal finger of fate has just UNKOWINGLY condemed the unfortunate Scotland unintentionally

  64. 152
    jgm2 says:

    Sky news website reporting Baroness Scotland has been fined 5,000 quid.

    No grey area there. Is it true or are they trying to ‘bounce’ UKBA into actually serving the fine or are they just trying to flush out an entertaining statement from somebody or other.

    Fucking delicious.

    That list of women that carelessly missed out Margaret Thatcher’s name is going to take a bit of a mauling.

    At least it frees up a few new ‘firsts’

    ‘First Female Asian MP who wasn’t prosecuted for fiddling expenses’

    ‘First Female Attorney General who wasn’t forced to resign after breaking the law’.

    Tee hee.

  65. 158
    John Page says:

    Sky says she’s being fined £5,000. Come on, ditherer, it’s got to be curtains.

    • 165
      Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? says:

      Any one with an ounce of integrity would have realised that their position was untenable the moment this was made public and a resignation should have been tendered immediately – for the “Chief Law Officer” in the UK to have broken any law let alone one she was responsible for framing whilst a Home Office Minister is simply not sustainable with continuing in their job.

      How can she preside over any decision in the future where someone is contesting this law or any other for that matter.They simply have to quote her example

      • 173
        Papasmurf says:

        I have just sent a complain to the Attorney General’s office link here….. http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.uk/contacts.htm

        I suggest we inundate them with complaint for bringing the office of Attorney General into disrepute.

      • 174
        Right Bastard says:

        Quite simple. A classic and stark example of one law for them and another one for us.

      • 194
        Steve Expat says:

        Since when have integrity and Liebour politicians ever been spoken of in the same sentence?

        She’s said she’s not going, and daring Broon to sack her. He really doesn’t want a reshuffle just before the conference and is too weak in his own position as leader to stand up to her.

  66. 160
    The Surgery says:

    NEXT

  67. 162
    Groucho says:

    Gordon Brown: “The question is whether she knowingly did not look at the passport or the documents of the person that she was employing or whether she did do that but she did not keep a copy of the documents.

    “We will have to find out what has actually happened and I will have to wait for that report this morning and she will want to answer the questions that are put to her. We will have to make decisions.”

    Er, no, Gordon. She broke the law. Its so simple even you can understand it.
    Baroness Scotland herself ensured that the legislation made it clear that ignorance of the law was no excuse.

    Grow a pair of nuts and sack her, you useless invertebrate.

    • 170
      jgm2 says:

      Trying to define the parameters of his own trial too.

      ‘The question is whether I deliberately or recklessly fucked the UK economy or whether I did it out of sheer incompetence’.

      It doesn’t work like that – jackass.

    • 210

      “Errr, clearly Baroness Scotland has taken full responsibility for this matter and therefore I can report that, errr, her cleaner has resigned”.

      [left side of jaw drops; camera pans down to reveal trouser leg tucked into sock]

  68. 166
    Unsworth says:

    So she’s been fined before the Borders guys have actually interviewed the Tongan bint? Who made the judgement?

    • 172
      jgm2 says:

      It’s a ‘perfect’ crime.

      No photocopied passport? £5000 quid-fine-thank-you-very-much-don’t-do-it-again.

      Would you like an ASBO with that?

      • 199
        Muffin the Fool says:

        What’s the exchange rate for one Tongan vs one Dominican – I propose that we keep the former and rid these Isles of the latter – it’s certainly cheaper!

    • 192
      Hamish Macbeth says:

      The Tongan Bint has already been interviewed….

      In fact she was interviewed before she was found

  69. 175
    nell says:

    So it’s confirmed.UKBA has fined her £5000 for breaking her own law.

    Well gordon what now? (Or is mandy still whispering in his ear , like he did over the Libya crisis – don’t worry gordon, ignore it – it will all blow over in 24 hours)

    • 181
      Groucho says:

      ‘Courage’ will do what he always does – stay in the bunker and let one of his minions take the flak.

    • 190
      AnonymousSource says:

      Probably all over bar the exchnage of letters -”Cleggy” has now fallen into line after some prevarication earlier behind LibDem Home Affairs spokesman Chris Huhne and Eric Pickles calling for Baroness Scotland to “consider her position” ! The longer this charade palys the worse Brown appears and re-inforces the view that is is a “ditherer”

      • 213
        The Right Ho(o)n Gordon Brown says:

        Er – now look here – what you’re saying is that – if I’ve got you right – that is to say – my interpretation of your views – which have been quite properly evaluated and stress tested against the focus group recently created by myself in view of the not only necessary pre-requiste implications of my role as both elected Leader of the Labour Party but furthermore and additionally only the conclusions of the sub-committe’s conclusions that we should – rather than not – in my opinion!

      • 229
        Baroness Scotland says:

        I’ve considered my position, moron. Here’s 5 grand. Now kindly fuck off.

  70. 177
    Troughy says:

    When – not if, she does go, it is strongly rumoured that Baird will replace her. She will have to liaise regularly with Straw.

    Jack and Vera!

  71. 184
    Baroness Scotland says:

    hehehehehehehe

  72. 187
    Papasmurf says:

    New Thread

  73. 188
    John Fowler says:

    and where is Mister Scotland in all this? did he allow his poor beleagured wife to do ALL the domestic admin? Richard Mawhinney, her barrister husband – was he not able to offer counsel to her? did she ask him? did he not ask any questions? Is he not involved somehow? Perhaps she could afford his fees.

    And what about his brother in all this – he always had a view about everything.
    Anyway as he is having to retire next year from the Football League – perhaps he can become their dog-walker.

    When we had a cleaner – my dear wife and I both employed her – having interviewed her together. Surely this woman worked for the household – not just the noble Robber Baroness.

    and lest I forget – did she ever take work home? And was it sensitive stuff? Did she hear the couple discuss meetings and diary arrangements?
    Was the Tongan woman security vetted? Surely she should have been.

    • 230
      TOO FAR says:

      “security vetted” There’s a thought. Now supposed she was a terrorist, Spy or something! B. Scotland is either incompetent, or tells porkies. (OR BOTH) Maybe just cheap labour…… The plot thickens. Unfit for perpose comes to mind. She should do the honest (ha ha!) thing and resign.

      Come on Guildo take a look, Well pointed out J.F.

    • 237
      Cleaning up says:

      I’ve never had a cleaner – where do you do it – over the oven with some marigolds?

  74. 191
    nell says:

    Now Baroness Scotland’s supporters are saying that her housekeeper used a doctored passport and that the poor dear innocent baroness was duped. The inference being she’s paid her fine and should be allowed to keep her job.

  75. 195
    Groucho says:

    Why just £5000? You can be sure that if this had been an ordinary businessperson, they would have felt the full weight of the law.

  76. 196
    Desperate Dan says:

    In the interests of equality her husband, the practising barrister Richard Mawhinney, should also be held responsible and fined. What does Harriet Harman have to say about poor Lady Scotland carrying the can for employing an illegal immigrant? It’s unthinkable that a right-on 21st century equal opportunities Labour household would leave the lady of the house with sole responsibility for interviewing the servants.

  77. 209
    nell says:

    I bet mandy is spitting mad this morning – he’s just launched a high profile attack on george osborne – along the lines of a ‘ boy in a man’s job’ and the headlines are being dominated by Baroness Scotland instead!

    Never mind mandy you can re-launch your shallow character assassination attempt of george again another time. If you can ever find another time when gordon’s not having a high profile crisis.

    It is, of course, exactly the sort of attack we have come to expect from labour, all smear and spin and no substance.

    • 212
      Steve Expat says:

      nell, are you expecting many days between now and the election when there isn’t a Liebour crisis??

      • 224
        nell says:

        +++laugh+++

        Next crisis already bubbling – omaha has refused a request for gordon to have a one to meeting whilst he is in America this week,

        2nd crisis waiting in the wings – gordon said to be meeting with Libya Qudaffi round about Thursday – watch out for a nice picture of them both doing their weird smiles and shaking hands to a background of placard waving relatives of victims of IRA bombers and Locherbie.

        3rd crisis early next week ?? Hmmm? – well the Labour conference is coming up -knives will be out I expect – that should be interesting.

        I don’t think even Richard III was a crisis prone as gordon , mind he didn’t last long in the job either.

        • 232
          I'll have some of that says:

          Obama’s got enough problems as it is without having a one on one with Gaddafi’s new best mate……luidicrous to even think of asking for one…..

        • 280
          Stalins Organ says:

          Hope he has remembered to take his Saltire with him… to wave back at the Col

    • 245
      Mildred Fish says:

      Yes, but George is an incompetent, chinless toff and everyone can see that.

  78. 218
    Cynic says:

    Surely the fine should be means tested like all the others and when you add in her salary and (fiddled) expenses £5k is nothing

  79. 221

    From Sky News, her statement reads:

    “”She hired Ms Tapui in good faith and saw documents which led her to believe that Ms Tapui was entitled to work in this country.”
    It went on: “Baroness Scotland has paid tax and national insurance in relation to her employment.”

    This doesn’t say that the correct amounts of NI and taxes due were paid.

  80. 222
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Perhaps the wretch has become a personal liablity for Brown.

    She has been caught out by the very law she brought in. If she has any sense left she should go before the mob is readied.

  81. 226
    Road_Hog says:

    No wonder the head of UKBA doesn’t want this one to go any further. Just went back through Friday’s Daily Mail and picked out these two quotes.

    “She was able to do so despite the fact that the Home Office had twice been tipped off that she was living in the country illegally.”

    “The obligatory, subsequent Home Office check would also have revealed that at the time she had already twice been reported as an overstayer, but that the Border Agency had done nothing about it. ”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214298/Baroness-Scotlands-housekeeper-wedding-slipped-legal-loophole.html

  82. 227
    nell says:

    So where’s gordon? Oh yes in New York hiding , dithering, shall I sack her?, shall I keep her? – Oh mandy what to do??!!

    Eeny meeny miny mo ………………………….

  83. 233
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Has the olde Snotgobbler dismissed anyone from the Government throughoutt his unelected tenure?

    I don’t mean McBride & Co. I mean Cabinet and other Ministers.

  84. 235
    purpleline says:

    Brown gives her a free pass, I think this is the classicake that he will have to reverse. It could be the final nail in his coffin. Let’s hope so

  85. 238
    grundy says:

    “According to a single source, most of the enforcement team is keen to nail her but Lin Homer (UKBA CEO) is desperately looking for a way to avoid prosecution.”

    So how is she gonna do that then, WHEN IT’S AGAINST THE FUCKING LAW?!!!

  86. 244
    Mildred Fish says:

    Here’s one just in from BBC. If you don’t know what a non-sequitur is then here is the best example I have ever seen of one:

    “Ms Harman insisted that Baroness Scotland’s position as Attorney General remains tenable, and said a review into the treatment of rape victims by the police must look at catching the rapist after the first complaint.”

    The second clause has absolutely nothing to do with the opening clause. Intent to deflect? Person who wrote it an idiot? Harman oblivious to non-sequiturs? Probably all three, but what a load of bollocks.

    What a shambles. Is there no one willing to stand up and enact the law upon these people?

  87. 247
    Joseph Malik says:

    Laws are for the little people. Anyway, I have it on good authority that Gordon consulted the government’s chief legal adviser on this matter and she said it wasn’t in the public interest to prosecute.

    Ms Scotland may of course decide to stand down voluntarily to avoid confusing any more foreigners regarding her name, title and the bit of the UK she does not have legal responsibilty for.

  88. 249
    Ugly F ucker watch says:

    Why does Noooo_Lie___Bore have scuh ugly f uckers ??

    Just answer that?

  89. 252
    lady jockland says:

    …I’ve been fined because I’m black and a girlie, s’not fair….

  90. 253
  91. 256

    Gordon Brown could have led on this one with a very simple telephone call.
    GB – Pat, have you broken the law?
    PS – I’m not sure, I’m waiting for the Border Agency to report.
    GB – Don’t be ridiculous, you were in charge of this legislation and I presume you have checked, did you break the law? (Nokia flies across room)
    PS – Er yes, I did.
    GB – Do you wish to resign or would you like me to fire you?

  92. 259
    Anonymous says:

    “Lin Homer (UKBA CEO) is desperately looking for a way to avoid prosecution”

    WHY? Are we not equal in the eyes of the law? Either someone is guilty or they are not, or am I missing something? Does Lin Homer’s interfering amount to perjury?

  93. 261
    Born Again Redneck says:

    “According to a single source, most of the enforcement team is keen to nail her but Lin Homer (UKBA CEO) is desperately looking for a way to avoid prosecution”

    You got me thinking. Why desperately try to avoid prosection? Is it in anticipation of a tsunami of similar cases involving the high and mighty employing illegals? Or, as I suspect, because they are both New Labourites, wishing to protect their own?

    Does the imposition of an on-the-spot fine mean Scotland would not have to face the music in court?

    Still watching these lawmakers being caught with their trousers down never fails to cheer me up.

    • 281
      Stalins Organ says:

      Redneck
      Good point. Surely the first check for anybody employed by a Cabinet Minister with access to secrets, be done by Super Plod?
      Bob Ainsworth, you can relax, this does not concern you, employ who you like, preferably an Albanian contract killer.

  94. 265
    Unsworth says:

    When did the passport run out, when did Scotland see it, and when was the Tongan first employed?

  95. 282
    Wessex Man says:

    Isn’t it strange the Tongan has disappeared before here place is searched and kept under wraps until the investigation is finshed. I bet the Spooks haave her to protect Scotland.



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