It Ain’t Over for the Lady
Patricia Scotland is not out of the woods yet – despite receiving the Prime Minister’s backing. Guido has checked with the Bar Council and it is true that she will not have to report herself on the grounds that it is a civil offense to “unknowingly” employ an illegal immigrant. She is making a lot of play of the claim that it is an administrative error and a “technical breach of the rules”, as if she had been caught by the offside trap. It isn’t a game, it is a breach of the law by the highest law officer in the land, a breach of a law she introduced.
The Cabinet Office is trying to defend the Baroness over her expense claims. Ridiculously they are now claiming that all ministers are entitled to claim the London allowance regardless of where they live. Effectively giving all peers who are ministers an immediate pay rise…
How on earth can she claim to have “unknowingly” employed an illegal immigrant, given that she also claims she checked the documentation?
I’d say that there is a pretty good prima facie case that she knowingly employed an illegal immigrant, which is a far more serious matter.
Venal troughing parasitical whore who puts herself above the laws she passes for the little people. Nulabor runs through this specimen like Blackpool runs through rock.
I do get an extra bonus of a few quid for being away overnight for sometimes days at a time. I mean its a few quid but I appreciate the gesture even though it buys a ham sandwich.
If this is the case as Guido states perhaps I need to claim it when at home as well.
B*stards!
GUIDO
Did you see Michael White’s comment on this in the Guardian?
“Scotland is a competent female, black lawyer. A second chance is called for.”
Fancy calling him a racist?
She’s not that competent if she can’t work out from official documents if someone’s an illegal immigrant or not. Or doesn’t remember to keep photocopies. Or deliberately fails to enquire and lies later when she’s found out.
Aren’t there enough unemployed people already looking for unskilled jobs without Government ministers importing people to do the work I’m sure one of the many thousands of unskilled young people would kill to do for a living?
Baroness Scotland is as much of a disgrace as her boss. Aren’t the home-grown unskilled good enough for her?
http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/arent-enough-people-on-the-dole-already/
Michael White is a Labour C*unt – enough said. He shouldnot be a reporter or commentator his bias is there for all to see. Sorry about the C word but it fits in this instance to a T.
Reposted
The Attorney General, Baroness Scotland, has been fined £5,000 for hiring an illegal immigrant as her housekeeper. The Government’s top law officer sacked her housekeeper after it emerged the 27-year-old was in the UK illegally. She had reportedly been living in Britain for five years since a student visa ran out.
It is claimed Prime Minister Gordon Brown has ordered the Attorney General to apologise. A source says he told her he did not take the matter lightly and that neither should she. Baroness Scotland has issued an apology, saying: “I accept it is my duty to pay the fine and I have done so.”
Ho Hum…… back to sleep nothing to see here…
B*stards
Gorgon: ” “She paid tax and national insurance on her earnings. She employed her new cleaner in good faith. But regrettably she did not retain copies of the documents proving the right to work she was given.
“As a result she is paying an administrative penalty.”
Administrative penalty??? It’s called a fine for a criminal offence everywhere else. What is the Law Society doing about this?
Susie
Well said
Its called we are the ‘untouchables’ even when a flagant breach is exposed.
B*stards
Baroness Scotland and a struggling farmer, compare and contrast.
Farmer ‘checked illegal workers’
A farm owner from Devon who is facing a fine of up to £120,000 for employing illegal workers says he had taken precautions to check their credentials.
He told BBC News: “We do our best to comply with regulations.
“We have a very good database of all employees and we have a list of passports and proof of identity.
“But the biggest problem for employers is to prove the identity of the person.
“We are not experts in forgery.”
Mr Coleman was handed an on-the-spot penalty notice by immigration officials that could mean a fine of up to £10,000 for each illegal worker.
A spokesman for the UK Border Agency said: “Mr Coleman was issued with a fixed penalty notice following the raid.
“That civil action is still pending.
“To avoid being fined, Mr Coleman must prove to the UK Border Agency that he has carried out the correct checks before giving the workers jobs.”
I need not ask if Baroness Scotland has been handed a fixed penalty notice do I?
So Michael White is saying that because the Attorney General is black we shouldn’t expect the same level of performance or standard of ethics as we would from a honkie.
A succinct riposte !!!
#178:
No – Michael White is saying that because she is black she doesn’t have to resign after having committed an offence whereas if she were white she would have to resign.
Absolutely not a case of double standards, of course!
Of course it’s her duty to pay the fine. She should know – she pretty much wrote the damn law.
Stunning example of a non-apology apology there.
http://cogitodexter.wordpress.com
Let’s send some illegal Albanian labourers round to the Home Office tomorrow
E-Mail sent today
Correspondenceunit@attorneygeneral.gsi.gov.
Having read that the Attorney General has broken the law regarding the employment of illegal imigrants how can she justify remaining in her job? The honourable thing to do in such circumstances would be to resign, to remain in her position undermines all legislation. From now on anyone breaking the law can claim it was just a mistake pay a fine and remain at their post and those who have recieved heavier penalties for simlar offences must now have good grounds for apeal
The laws no longer just an ass its an almighty stinking cesspit.
Gorgon is just showing how weak he really is and the prepared statement is nonsense and contradictory. The man has no business being PM of this country he is a total lightweight. It’s a total disgrace.
Just read that Baroness Scotland is facing the axe
Seems a bit harsh to make employing a Tongan a capital offence
#296; Flick – Harsh? I don’t think so…
I guess a small business somewhere could claim that, they didn’t fully understand the law so only made partial checks, and get away with a technical breach.
Hard to see how the person who drafted the law could get away with that though.
I drafted so I won’t be shafted.
MOD – Nobody in the controlled media seems to be asking this question.
A very good point Rick
“Nobody in the controlled media seems to be asking this question”
In my work travels again and the only english station on TV was the BBC World. Needs must , anyway….. the latest advert (to promote themselves) on the BBC new World channel is a number of Beeboids giving statements about how they always seek the truth worldwide (I jest thee not, stop tittering at the back there) and concludes with the statement…
“NEVER STOP ASKING”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..arf
If you have a sick bucket see for yourself!
Good luck to the Cabinet Office in trying to defend the indefensible. Surely her domestic staff should be vetted by someone that would have picked up on her status?
She should go or be sacked, it says so much about Gordon’s own position that he does not have the guts to sack her for clearly breaking a law that she introduced – from the position of being in charge of upholding the law!
the rabid carpet munching bitch would probably fcuk him up if he tried , the spineless fuckwit
Much as I hate Brown, in his defense he’s out of the country, and PMs never sack from abroad; the form is to get back to the country and get fully briefed, then act.
On the other hand, if he’d fostered a culture of honour and public service in the first place, she would have resigned herself last week.
He was in London this morning, and I’m sure he got a briefing on the report before he left – there was ample time to sack her if he had the will to do so.
Don’t you just love Scotland with employed servants, labour for the working classes what a load of old bollocks. And why the hell could she not employ someone from these shores.
You pathetic, parochial, white, middle-class Little Englander racists. Go back to twitching your net curtains in your boring, all-white suburbs.
White flight = white racists
http://sidemeat.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/racist.jpg?w=480&h=640
Go fuck yourself commy twat. Your waysism slur says more about the indefensibility of your failed heroes than it does about the people you think you’re insulting.
Your obviously too thick to work out white flight = no more dole money.
The only real racism on here comes from the hysterical left, who indulge an out-of-date racial-stereotype of white curtain-twitching suburbs.
Fuck off twat.
Pricks like you set the fight against racism back decades.
It’s because if pathetic little morons like “coolfonz” that we have so many problems today. Demented lunatics who cry racism the moment anyone questions law breaking by anyone of ethnic origin.
Why can’t you find a place where people actually give a shit about your slanderous views you ghastly excuse for a human being.
How dare you accuse anyone who questions this kind of behaviour of such vile prejudices – you’re a disgrace and you betray the numerous people who have been the victims of genuine racism, and get taken that little bit less seriously because of the race card playing bullshit deployed by oxygen stealing cretins like you.
Now fuck off and find a corner to go and sit in, preferably with a large tumbler of whisky and a revolver.
Am I racist for calling you a floating White turd?
This was a response to the coolfonz creature …
Ah, “Little Englander”. My badge of honour. Yes, I am one of that small band of freedom lovers who believes in a “Little England” free from state oppression by the Scotch communists and other lefto-fascist parasite hypocrites.
And free from the bigotry of trendy little diversity multi-cults like you.
The laws only apply to the LITTLE PEOPLE stupid.
According to Michael White, the laws only apply to white people!
Isn’t she also a barrister? Can she be reported to the Law Society?
It’s the Bar Council. Read the intro.
Perjury?
Does Lord Mandybum claim the Outside London Allowance for Ministers? Someone should ask.
This documentation she checked , the passport for example, hasn’t turned up. This is why she brought in the law. to stop people saying they had seen documentation which didn’t exist.
The cleaners passport that does exist does not seem to back up the Baronesses claims.
So what would Sherlock Holmes make of this? We don’t even need Holmes. Watson can deal with this on his own.
In fact Mrs Hudson can deal with it.
“She did not see any passport,sir”
elementary Mrs Hudson.
Quite possible.
The other explanation, which is also quite possible, is that she saw the passport, knew the cleaner wasn’t entitled to work legally, and thought that she’d better not keep photocopies.
Are there any journalists out there asking these questions?
The cleaner’s married to a solicitor When did that happen?
She must be the only solicitor’s wife to work as a cleaner. Strange one this.
Thenit should follow that the CEO of UKBA Lin Honer should also resign as she has been complicit in not doing her duty.
“I am bitterly, bitterly sorry for murdering all those women in what was a technical breach of the rules” , says Yorkshire Ripper.
I will refer to the case of Baroness Scotland to see if there are grounds to appeal, says the judge,
The Cabinet Office is trying to defend the Baroness over her expense claims. Ridiculously they are now claiming that all ministers are entitled to claim the London allowance regardless of where they live. Effectively giving all peers who are ministers an immediate pay rise…
It stinks doesn’t it?
A payrise for Gordon’s cabal of unelected idiots…
I expect it’ll be to stimulate the economy. Anyone thinking otherwise will obviously be a waysist and a howwid tory.
What is there about this present administration that doesn’t stink?
The allowance in question was introduced by the Major government and is also paid to the opposition chief whip in the Lords and the opposition leader of the Lords. Which is probably why St David hasn’t been bleating about it too much – it’s a nice little earner for his gang, too.
To conclude: Politicians = greedy scum, regardless of colour.
Tried hard but nothing comes to mind.
Would this apply to Lord Peter of hartlebim?
O/T but did you see him on Panorama last night? Not too nifty answering an unexpected question. Bit slow on his feet. Grins inanely and wanders of like.
Sorry scrub the last word. Unless you’re a scouser.
Really pathetic wasn’t he. I definitely think he’s lost it. Had it too easy over the last few years. He looks as if he’s ready to put his slippers on and snooze his time away in the lords.
Yes the miasma has been hanging over Westminster for the last 12 years.
The last miasma was in the 1860s when Joseph Bazelget built a sewer to get rid of it.
No different to a parking fine for her.
Except that she probably wouldn’t bother to claim for a parking fine on expenses. Just wait until her next expense claim is published, and watch for the item “miscellaneous employment costs: £5000″.
First?
I say hang the bitch! “Technical” breach of the rules my pert queer arse!
I claim FIRST – on technical grounds – I’ve just got back from lunch and if I didn’t stay for the extra pint or so would undoubtedly have been first and I call upon all my co-bloggers to support my claim and at the same time promise to do the same for them!
Fuck off !!!
You WERE first. I saw the timestamp but forgot to photocopy it.
Sack her she is a lawbreaker, Brown is an arsehole with no guts
She can not be sacked. It was quite blatantly stated on the Daily politics show that she is keeping her job because she is a Black woman and if she were a lesbian too then she would be bomb proof.
and, of course, some might class that face of hers as a disability…
and those tree trunk legs. needs to go to the Caster semenya finishing school for ethnic ladymen
Totally sexist, but I endorse the comment.
Whether she is pretty or not is besides the point.
Bald as a coot too.
Have you ever tried making a dark-room, Effnic Lesbo? Being bomb proof is no defence against the play of the light. Keep watching. Don’t poke your eyes out before it’s over.
IF?
Such language debases any argument. The comment should not have been published.
Apologies to Effnic Lesbo. My comment was intendded to be a response to 4 Anonomous and the comment on Brown.
Although it was a very true comment.
Is the country’s highest law officer seriously claiming that she wasn’t competent to check the documents?
Yep. That is what she claims. Another total hoon.
I think it’s a bit like top surgeons who can’t change a bed pan.
She can obviously change Gordon’s bed pan.
She didn’t have to check them she only had to copy them and keep them. There’s no need to investigate the facts. One document to prove British nationality or other right to be here, another to prove right to work. Simples.
But why was she scratching around for a cheapo woman servant when she could have hired at the going rate and put it on expenses? Or is there a mish mash between what she paid and what she claimed?
There appear to have been difficulties with the correct interpretation of job specification terms such as “cleaning the rug” and “tossing the salad”, and whether they formed part of the consideration within the contract.
Perhaps ‘Clean me up’ Scottie (that was rather good wasn’t it?
didn’t fancy a plain old Mrs Mop… perhaps she has more ‘exotic’ tastes, i.e. illegal bi-Tongans.
She is claiming that the legislation, that she wrote and promoted, is so shite that even she cannot understand it. Expect loads of appeals.
Most of the legislation introduced over the last 10 years has been over-complicated, shite and open to interpretation. They are just not capable of good governance. Incompetent liars who all need to be destroyed before we reach the point of no return.
Maybe the legislation is overcomplicated to create more work for law professionals. You know, the kind that go into politics.
Such cynicism….but perfectly true. Most of the laws introduced in the past dozen years have been implemented to benefit ambulance chasing shysters like the ex Prime Mentalists wife.
345 Call Me Infidel.At least the ex PMs wife studied at a proper university and has a proper degree (and a First Class one) even though she IS barking. Unlike Patricia Scotland (Mid Essex Tech) and Vera Baird (Newcastle Poly) who could be the next Attorney General if Scotland goes. What else do you expect when people from third rate colleges are allowed to write our Laws? Wonder if anybody from Mid Essex Tech remembers Baroness la-di-da Scotland?
I think we already reached it old boy
No more than we’ve come to expect from this immoral, shameless bunch of useless politicians. Harriett Harperson is truly dreadful – do you think she actually enjoys being sent out to face the media wolfpack to defend yet another indefensible “accident”?
I think Harry Harperson enjoys sticking two fingers up at us proles
She’s done it often enough. Mrs Thatcher should sue for defamation of character for the Harpie’s recent air brushing exploits.
Mrs Thatcher needn’t lose any sleep over it. Like her or not she was a colossus in not just twentieth century politics but British history.
Harman is unlikely to appear or be remembered in any significant document at all. The everso fair minded and concerned left have never felt able to give her any credit. I remember an Observer article for years ago when Mrs Thatcher appeared lower down a list of achieving women than Barbara Castle.
Vote Harman out
Harman is a pimple on the arse of history. Like Brown, who’ll be one of those fly-by-night PMs you learn the names of in your history lessons, but who were truly ephemeral.
Not that he hasn’t totally fucked the economy in the last twelve years.
Harperson is an irrelevent idiot.
They are all idiots, though unfortuantly not irrelevent as they keep shafting us all repeatedly
W.W..
Why not e-mail your local Lab party office and tell them that you will not vote for them in the next GE if Brown doesn’t sack her? Don’t also tell them that you weren’t going to vote for them anyway.
Nice.
No point, as I live in a constituency where the Tories always win by a landslide. The Liebour hoons don’t even bother putting up candidates at the local elections, which are strictly Tory/LimpDum contests.
Any marginal labour Party constituancy will do,it doesn’t have to be where you live they won’t know
WTF?? I mean come ON guys …this is fucking ridiculous……….
Makes you wonder what someone would have to do to get the sack…?
If you’re Labour & black & a wimmin to boot only being found standing over a dead body, with a smoking gun & being prepared to provide a full confession MIGHT cause you to lose your job – but there may be mitigating circumstances that would still allow you to keep your job.
In those circumstances we would launch an immediate investigation to find and prosecute the white Tory public schoolboy who committed the crime.
Such an investigation will of course take several months, cost millions and find that it was Thatcher wot dunnit.
That scenario is not 100% proof. Plod gets a barrel full of fake culprits claiming they did it every time there is a salacious homicide. They would give her the benefit of the doubt. The dead body would have to be of an under-age schoolgirl, whose DNA would have to be found around the culprit’s private parts.
You can’t sack ethnics-they have an immunity certificate as models of high standing which demonstrate that this government is a government of equal opportunity, of all the talents……….
aka “the Community…”
Breaking news…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The Attorney General, Baroness Scotland, has been fined £5,000 for hiring an illegal immigrant as her housekeeper. The Government’s top law officer sacked her housekeeper after it emerged the 27-year-old was in the UK illegally. She had reportedly been living in Britain for five years since a student visa ran out.
It is claimed Prime Minister Gordon Brown has ordered the Attorney General to apologise. A source says he told her he did not take the matter lightly and that neither should she. Baroness Scotland has issued an apology, saying: “I accept it is my duty to pay the fine and I have done so.”
Ho Hum…… back to sleep nothing to see here…
B*stards
The level of racism on this blog is sickening
Quit your jibba jabba, fool
Where is the racism?
everybody knows if you are critical of a non white you are a racist , oh what a load of multi-ethnic shit
But a non-white saying anything about a white – that’s not racist of course under Labour’s ‘equality for all’.
Labour’s ‘equality for all’ – works great as long as you’re not male, white, indigenous British.
… or middle-aged … unless of course you’re disabled
It all started in America…
Having a go at her just becuase she is black is not okay – calling her a prize Hoon because she’s a prize fucking Hoon is perfectly acceptable!!
I couldn’t give a flying fig for their ethnicity but a lying cheating twat is a lying, cheating twat (or, as you say, a Hoon) in any race, creed or colour.
You can’t polish a turd!
This is a bugbear of mine; should we not now say African / English like the Americans casually fling the nicely non-offensive (but very bloody rude!) African / American soubriquet around?
150. I think the term for her Ladyship, the mightily impressive and grand Baroness Scotland is African Caribbean. In some circles I believe West Hindian is not allowed now as it is seen as a racist term.Of course the N word is not allowed unless you are a N. For them it is a term of endearment as has been seen in The Wire.You cannot say half-caste and I think even the term mixed race has now been confined to the dustbin and the correctomundo term is bi-racial.Confusing innit ? Still,I suppose it keeps ethnic minorities at the Equalities Commission in work thinking up new ways of descrbing themselves.
What racism????
Once we have all-black shortlists then we’ll be beyond anything you little-englander net-curtain racists can throw at us. Obama learned that from me.
It’ll come back to bite and guilt trip your children and grandchildren in the ass when they have to face the everyday and everlasting history of being colonisers and race replacers like the world has never seen before.
all-black shortlists? right so segregation along racial lines?hmm what a new idea, god why has no country ?say one with lots of sun and oranges who plays cricket a lot ! done that before?.
By the way – what happened to Boetang?
Boateng:
Not black, BTW. He’s half white, like Obama.
Nasty piece of work (Boateng, not Obama). I believe he mistreated
his employees while in Africa.
The level of showboating by twats trying to play the race card like this hoon shakerbaby is even more sickening. Congratulations – you’ve just chipped a bit more credibility away from people on the receiving end of genuine racism and helped the bigoted scum that engage in it get away with it a little bit more.
MY ONLY “MISTAKE” SHE SAYS TO SKY NEWS
She told Sky News: “I am bitterly, bitterly sorry for what was a technical breach.
“This was a civil matter, not a criminal one, so there’s no question of my resigning.”
Asked if the law was flawed, the Attorney General said: “No, and it’s absolutely vital that everyone takes photocopies of the relevant documents.
“That was my only mistake, I didn’t keep photocopies.”
Gordon Brown said he would take “no further action” against Lady Scotland.
How many businesses have gone under due to this seemingly “workable” law.
Also use the correct words Lady
technical breach = broke the law
mistake = broke the law
rules = laws
humility = nah why bother (seen my bank a/c)
Ignorance of the law is No excuse and how the fuck can you be ignorant of a law that you made?
Except not keeping photocopies wasn’t her only mistake. The other mistake was either not checking the documents in the first place, or checking them, realising they had expired, and going ahead with the employment anyway.
… and getting caught!!
So she is saying that she did check the documents and knowingly hired an illegal?
She is saying she did check the documents. No-one seems to have asked her about what happened next, which is a shame, because I think it’s quite a good question.
Billy SPOT ON!
Actually I think she did not which raises the question why not? who did? who should have? why did they not? etc etc etc.
She needs to ensure she has a good “Photocopier engineer agreement” words of a friend who works as a printer.
B*stards
I will remeber this when I am on jury service next week!
The 5k fine is 10 months free food for a single MP. Or 10 minutes if its Tracey Temples ex boyfriend “gobbledygook” Prescott.
under what breach of law will a minster resign ?
Suicide…?
Please can I be the assistant to the Tartan Muppet and his God- awful cabinet ? PLEASE !!
Sorry MisterE thats actually termed in NuLab speak
“temporarily incapacitated and so incapable of continuance in office”…(for the time being”)
So basically thats the whole cabinet then (Oxegen thieves they are!)
This story still has legs.
The cleaner was here originally on a student visa and then apparently overstayed her ‘welcome’. On the relevant page on her passport would be the student visa stamp stating clearly she wasn’t able to work.
Now, what are the options:
Scotland looked at that page and didn’t spot the disrepancy, which makes her incompetent and not fit to hold office (especially bearing in mind immigrant employment law was her brief when at the Home Office).
She didn’t look at the relevant page on the passport and has therefore lied to UKBA and the public; should proven liars be in Brown’s government? Cynics might say its stuffed with them already.
She looked at the page and it had been altered/forged; again bearing in mind her position/training should we not expect more thoroughness from the Attorney General who spends her working day looking at complex documents and legal issues?
Isn’t it convenient that she DIDN’T have a copy of the relevant pages to show the UKBA?
i lent her my shredder
Quite right. Something really stinks here.
Oh yes it does!!!
Your right it’s the miasma
Take the matter of her “competence” up with the Bar Council.
She’s a FUCKING BARRISTER – do they not know exactly what they need to check and how those checks should be recorded?
There’s a lot more to this, the story is definitely not going away.
As much as I hate journalists with chequebooks, I hope the cleaner lets us all know exactly what documents were produced and how valid (or otherwise) they were…
She is a former Home Office Minister who could very easily have got a member of her staff to put in a call to Lunar House in Croydon which would immediately have told her that her prospective employee had an expired Student Visa. Even if the Student Visa had still been valid she would still have been ineligible to take up paid employment so it seems to me that the dear Baroness never bothered herself with any checking whatsoever. The whole point of the law that she passed was to stop employers saying they had made checks when they obviously hadn’t. Hence the requirement to retain copies. If this stupid woman had any kind of integrity and honour she would tender her resignation immediately.
Not strictly correct. The Tongan passport would most likely have had either an entry stamp from the port where she entered the country or would have a visas in the passport. If she entered as a visitor she would have code 3 or code 5 stamp with no permission to work. If on the other hand she had claimed to be a student on entry she would have a code 1 stamp. Students are in fact entitled to work but only part time. If she had applied for a visa overseas they would have affixed a visa in her passport however Tongans are not visa nationals so do not require a visa prior to entry.
The point is that she supposedly sent her passport in to the Home Office to have the visa renewed. This means that there would be a record of this on the Home Office database. Furthermore the entry stamp or visa she had stuck in her passport would have expired. If the Baroness had bothered look at the passport or contact the Home Office they could have told her the facts. It’s possible the passport had a forged visa and I doubt that she or many people here could spot a good forgery but in any event if she had contacted the Home Office all would have been revealed. However you look at it this affair stinks and Scotland’s position of Attorney General in my view is untenable.
God, she’s ugly!!
Oh come on, even I’m allowed an off day.
Lord, you have to do something with all the left over bits.
…no need to get at me as well.
For goodness sake! What she looks like is immaterial… and anyway, she looks quite ordinary.
Barry Sheerman MP on BBC TV now says Liberals and Conservatives are ‘Making a mountain out of a molehill ‘… ‘We should lift our eyes to the horizon and not be scrabbling in the gutter’… ‘She is irreplaceable.’… Blah blah… THIS tosh is what is worth confronting, not whether she happens to be attractive to you or not!
‘She made the rules and she broke them’ says the newsreader. ‘Mistake’ …
‘Technical infringement’… ‘She has apologised’ etc etc
However, Norman Smith states it could very well seem that there is one rule for ministers and one rule for the rest of us… Gillian Hargreaves is saying now ‘It is going to be very difficult for her to keep her job.’
That’s more like it…
she is very replaceable sadly though a GE won’t do it
B*stards
She is now smearing the Tongan womans character… very dangerous path that. She leaves herself open to the cleaner telling the truth – that no checks were made as the Baroness knew she was illegal.
So typical of this government to smear someone in order to deflect attention from their own criminality.
Typical of Labour that they always blame someone else for their own wrongdoing.
It all started in America.
Hi, I’m Mandy, fly me!!!
If the Tongan talks, what price an ‘inadvertant’ accident in the woods?
You cross these bastards at your personal welfare.
Indeed Rip Van – the Tongan lady has already had her front door smashed in. I am sure a few well chosen words have also been said to her about the “inadvisability” of speaking out of turn!
You mean one of Kelleys heros?
Pravda WATO are spinning like mad for the Baroness – not once did they mention the fact that this was not “a technical breach of the rules”, it is a breach of the Law.
It is the sense of self entitlement to be “above the Law” that really grates on me about these uber socialists – they actually believe the Lawws are for them to make, not to follow.
This is really bleak for our democracy & judiciary – & anyone who knows any London based lawyers will be aware of the great amount of disquiet over Baroness Scotlands appointment to AG in the first place.
She is in the job because she filled a quota tick box, not because she was the best candidate to “serve”.
Bleak, really bleak if she does not resign.
a good post Mrs RRW: I too heard the World at One and they allowed Phil Woolas to get away with defending the Baroness on the grounds that she made a mistake (‘it was unintentional’) and has apologised, so there is no need for her to resign or for any further discussion on the matter. So that ‘s alright then – trebles all round!!!
I very sadly would like to refer to my previous post of a few days ago where I mentioned (in jest but knowing it would end up being true) what would happen is that they would apologise and then issue a statement saying
“Sorry…… no intention of wrongdoing”
Then everyone should move on, line drawn under this (Mandlebums interview on Marr next Sunday) and there are more important things to concern us like how the opposition have by the fact they are the opposition totally trashed the economy for the last 12 years.
Tell that to the Farmer…
B*astrds!
Phil Woolas also claimed that the offence was committed ‘without knowledge’.
As the Baroness helped introduce a law knowing at the time that it was mandatory for an employer to keep proper records, if she doesn’t know this now then perhaps she suffers from pre-senile dementia.
Or maybe she’s just lying.
What has happened to the 800 year old ‘Common Law’ which has served us so well?
Common Law is what it says, the law applies to each and every one of us whoever we are, even and most especially to judges, it is not like Napoleonic Law which may be interpreted by a presiding judge (another reason why we don’t want the EUSSR).
Don’t they have to take an oath to uphold it when they’re admitted to the Bar? What do the Bar Council have to say on the matter. Jeeeez!!!!
ahhh yes common law..Again VERY good point
NuLabour are not common though. They promote that they are and 26% of the brain dead still believe it. What to do? what to do?
But them a Zil and a dhacka I suppose
(no apology for spelling)
Blair scrapped it along with the most important parts of Magna Carta.
If that is true he’d have had to rewrite every statute in the the book as it’s the fundamental underlying principle for every law passed in the UK since the year 1211.
I’m sure quite a few people would have noticed if that was the case.
You must be blind if you didn’t realise that that was happened when he changed the law to enable people to held for a month after arrest without charge, without knowing why they’d been arrested. Also allowing people to fined without a court appearance, just like Baroness Scotland. Wake up. Also, do a bit of research- Magna Carta was signed in 1215, not 1211. No doubt you’re one of sheep that will be voting Tory at the next GE because ‘they couldn’t be any worse than Labour’.
Rubbish – its not a “civil offence” Section 8 creates a criminal offence which can be prosecuted in the Magistrates Court.
Section 8 (4) provides that “A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale. ” ie £5K
Do tell us more. What does Section 8 cover?
(Mines a double by the way – do you use FedEx?)
All this highlights gordons shit judgement
Hi everyone,
I’m rather good at that sort of judgement too!
So, the cleaner – she presented false forged papers?
And she is still here in the UK?
Someone tell me what you have to do to get deported these days?
Gus O’Donnell keeps on helping the snot gobbler let ministers off the hook.
“It added that breaches of the law were taken “seriously” and the PM had consulted the cabinet secretary about whether the ministerial code had been breached.”
I hold no brief for the Baroness but … Why the hell should it be an offence to do anything ‘unknowingly’?
Better ask the lady herself, I suppose. She introduced this bloody law.
She didn’t “unknowingly” fail to copy and keep the documents though did she? That’s what she’s guilty of – a failure to do something which was required by the section which she announced.
Bingo!
B*stards
Why do Labour ministers have servants anyway?
I thought Labour was supposed to be about trades unions, equality and a classless society.
Four legs good…
2 fat legs crap
All these ministers wiv servants – wots that about?
These plastic socialists are scum – come the glorious day we will hang ‘em all with red rope.
looks much prettier with the crosshairs…
Clare Short looks fooked!
I’ll take your word for that.
Any better than Traycee, was she, Prezza?
Stop it you lot, try something different.
A Labour Attorney General, female, coloured? She’s fireproof even before the race card is produced. Why bother?
I asked on another thread earlier this morning,has SnotGobbler ever sacked anyone from Cabinet or Junior Minister Post?
Is it the McBride gang only who were caught bang to rights that he failed to
fully support?
Did McBride not (unknowingly??) resign and save Captain Mainwairing the actual job of sacking him ?
But Brown said he sacked him, didn’t he? I’m shocked!!
Don’t bring Captain Mainwairing into this… he was a patriot.
It is clearly a case of ‘I take full responsibility…and have sacked the person responsible”.
The cleaner was immediately sacked for a ‘technical breach’ of the immigration rules. Can’t see the difference myself…
I hope that she went through the proper disciplinary procedures for sacking, and has kept proper note and records, or can the AG sack by textmessage? What about her rights? She is married to a British citizen, so could reasonably argue that she thought she was entitled to work here now.
by the way, anyone else know of a solicitor’s wife working as a domestic servant?
I did wonder if Loloahi has been wrongfully and Un fairly dismissed. Perhaps we have yet to see Scotland in the Employment Tribunal justifying the method of dismissal?????
I will be in the front seat!
i understand the illegal one is taking Bar(on)rister Tonga-Tonga to the Employment Tribunal for unfair dismissal and claiming 170,000 pounds!
I didn’t understand why she kept on going on about
‘I’m sure all women around the country will be making photocopies’ or similar – she said it a few times in the interview. Also, was it just me or did she sound terrified?
What do expect? An incompetent dishonest minister in an incompetent dishonest government.
She was never going to be sacked, only the little people get sacked – being a dinner lady and telling the truth gets you sacked:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1215095/Sacked-Dinner-lady-told-parents-bullying-seven-year-old-daughter.html
This is an incredible story. Unfortunately it is all too common in the NHS and in education too. Managers get rid of the problem rather than tackle the problem.
And there lies the pattern of behaviour that is human nature in organisations that have grown too large to be effectively managed. Happens in big companies and governments.
The natural order is disorder and protectionism. The Tories will behave the same way in 10 years time if still in power. This country needs to scale down centralised government and spread some responsibilities back to local level.
Poor gordon. Can’t take a simple decision to sack her. Dither. dither. dither.
And now he’s taken the wrong decision it’s going to absolutely overshadow his plan to be seen as the saviour of the world at this week’s G20 summit. Perhaps that’s why Omaha has decided not to meet with him.
It is the failure to have a fireside chat with BO that could damage him more. I hope the media make more of that than of Scotland – and BO repeats his disinterest. Given Brown’s deluded character, this has the capacity to send Brown overboard.
Has anyone noticed that Mervyn King is about to pinch Gordon’s next job?
‘Bank of England Governor Mervyn King could be given a prominent role in European Union super-watchdogs being set up to monitor banks and market risks to win British backing for the plan, diplomatic sources said.
The European Commission unveils its blueprint on Wednesday to shake up monitoring of financial services, creating pan-European watchdogs for banks and a separate body to spot early signs of a new financial crisis.
But backing from Britain — home to Europe’s biggest financial centre, the City of London — will be crucial to plans to set up the new structures by the end of next year. In particular, Britain has taken exception to the fact European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet will head the European Systemic Risk Board, a body that will watch for financial risks.
But diplomats said London’s blessing for the package of measures that includes a new super-watchdog for banks could be secured if European countries back King as the Frenchman’s deputy.’ (Reuters)
Is this why on GMTV this morning Gordon talked about ‘completing the journey’… because his plan to pop off at the new European Supervisory Authority was derailed? Pity, thought we’d be getting rid of him soon.
Who in their right mind would employ GB after the next election? He must be the worst PM ever in the history of the UK?
1 Not involved in Family Law or Child Welfare reform
2 Has employed an illegal immigrant as a cleaner when it was she who put the law in place to stop this £5000 fine probably not noticed as taken from expenses
3 She Claimed £170,000 expenses when she has a £2 million home in Chiswick
4 Worst of all, in my view, is her refusal to put right the poultry sentence on the 3 ‘Guardians’ who were responsible for Baby ‘P’ in life and ultimately DEATH* Murder should mean LIFE*
Lets see the New Supreme Court do it’s work and make her their first candidate!
Don’t bank on it. The race card will be played yader yader……….probably Trevor Phillips will accuse all and sundry of picking on her because she’s an immigrant!
The poultry sentence? Have they been sent to work in a Bernard Matthews factory?
Good one, #163. If a turkey is “poultry”, does that make a chicken merely “paltry poultry”?
By the way, Daveyone, don’t expect the new Supreme Court to take any of the present lot to task. The slot-gobbed one is expecting to be elevated to the bench of that court to dispense Blairite “justice” to us all…
Paltry
Has anyone checked the cleaner’s bi- aspect yet? The Rt Hon lady may have been having an affair with her. Gulp.
You’re just a racist bigot Guido. Anyone can see the the baroness is not white and yet you make a “black and white” issue over a simple and technical mistake. Shame on you! May it never happen to you.
”wacist” ”wacist” oh fuck off before someone slaps some sense into you.
Oh go and learn about figures of speech and how they don’t have the kind of double meanings that twats like you try and give them.
attaboy says: Shame on you! May it never happen to you.
I’m not sure Guido will ever become Attorney General if that’s what you mean. Still, stranger things have happened.
Chuckle! That got you going boyos!
Real “Racists” are white or Aryan Suprematists who believe blacks are “inferior”. You bandy the word “racist” about at anyone you dont like, or who excercises free speech, or free thought. You debase language as all socialists do.
You insult six million victims or genuine racism with your schoolboy taunts. of “racism”. Well go f_ck yourself attaboy, your existence has no purpose and you have nothing to contibute to any discussion anywhere by anyone. You might as well go play with yourself as tap a keyboard. You’ll find it more rewarding. We certinly will.
What do you mean Guido, she’s not yet out of the woods? I saw the woods at Sangatte cleared on sky news.
Is she STILL hiding there ?
We should be told- or is it just a relative or a genuine tuppence- licker escaping homophobic persecution from Africa!!
David Kelly never made it out of the woods
BS,
you are: (tick one or more of the following)
[ ] A liar
[ ] Incompetent
[ ] Stupid
[ ] A hypocrite
[ ] A criminal
[ ] Unfit to hold the position of AG
[ ] All of the above
and for the avoidance of doubt, it is your duty to uphold and obey the law, not just to pay fines when you are caught breaking it.
I am technically a lawyer (i.e. not at all), and claim my Peerage.
Filling out forms is not one of my strong points.
To update the old song:
‘I fought the law and I won, I fought the law and I won’ (some more poetic conspirator can rewrite the whole song to fit present circumstances).
I guess anyone convicted of ‘knowingly’ employing an illegal immigrant (sentence – potentially unlimited fine and up to two years in prison) will now have good grounds for applying for their conviction to be quashed.
“The Attorney General must be held to a different standard of behaviour because of the office she holds. As the Government’s senior legal adviser, her judgement is crucial on great matters of state, including – for example – the legality of our going to war. Such a figure cannot possibly have any taint of illegality”.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100010869/baroness-scotland-has-broken-the-law-and-should-be-sacked/
Here she is ‘in the woods’:
That is a slur on the reputation of all decent mokeys
Baboons please
Actually, it’s a gibbon. Still, good point, #183…
That’s not funny, and it gives all those morons trying to play the race card ammunition – you’re a twat.
It is funny and they can shove their race card where the sun don’t shine.
About as funny as your gaping arsehole. Moron.
They put a monkey up as mayor in Hartlepool. And he won.
I’m not sure I see the humour here.
“Here she is in the woods”.
It’s a slightly amusing video of a monkey.
Is the humour here that you’re likening a black woman to a monkey?
Is that the joke?
If it is then it’s rather pathetic, to be honest.
You’ve let yourself down, my friend.
@336
So it’s ok to call people a moron and to talking about gaping orifices, but not to speak the word monkey in the same sentence as someone who has been caught ‘monkeying about’. You sir, are a gaping………
@366
So it’s ok to ignore the theft, deception, dereliction of duty, irony of the fact that the person who wrote the law, breaks it, etc? It’s ok to ignore all this because she’s black? So what? She is a thief, a liar and a criminal. And you are an idiot who has been programmed to think in bite size pieces. Why is ok to rip the living daylights out of Brown, his illnesses, his disability? Because he’s white? I reserve the right to ridicule all persons, regardless of colour, particularly when they are spending MY money on living the high life and passing laws that don’t apply to themselves. Bite me.
368 is attributable to English Viking and not BS. Apologies.
If the humour behind the video was that she was monkeying around then fair enough.
If it was likening her to a monkey then I stand by that being a bit pathetic, and to be honest only a moron would hold such views.
I posted it
It just gets worse, the fact that grown men can say such words with out laughing?
“Mr Sheerman talking to the BBC said that Baroness Scotland should remain as Attorney General “at all costs”.
He described her as “an exceptionally good woman who’s clever, who has a reputation for integrity, and she’s going to pay the penalty by paying the fine.
“There is a difference between inadvertantly breaking the law and deliberately making a mistake. Do we want to lose a woman of her brightness and her character out of public life because of a mistake
“We should keep her there at all costs. Good ministers are hard to come by.”
She and he needs a fcukint kick up the backside. Talk of integrity surely takin the p1ss?
“Good ministers are hard to come by.”
Of course because none of them want to work fro McDoom.
“There is a difference between inadvertantly breaking the law and deliberately making a mistake”
And she took both situations into consideration when drafting the legislation. Both are illegal and there is no excuse for not knowing the rules.
Nobody knows this legislation better than her. And she still broke it.
“Good ministers are hard to come by”
True, Gordon has not found one yet.
Intentional, and not the slightest bit surprising. He’s been stabbing them all in the back for the last 12 years at least, the minute he imagined they had aspirations for the job he was after.
But we have a plentiful supply of shotguns if they would only use them on themselves……
She no longer has a reputation of integrity!
Keep her at all costs.
So they won’t be doing anything about the fraudulent expenses either.
I am above the law. Can you ignorant proles not see that?
You think I am bothered about this? Ok, I will try to look contrite for a while and get my spokeperson to put together a half hearted apology if it will make you feel better.
But the truth of the matter is that I am in the Inner Party. I couldn’t give a shit what you all think. You are as insignificant to me as that laughable £5,000 fine.
I know that I have taken the piss with expenses. I know that you know that I have taken the piss with expenses. But what are you going to do about it, eh? What can you do about it?
Nothing. Thats right. Now get back to work.
and pay your taxes
and pay your civil fines
…… and student loan repayments
……… and National Insurance increases
Predictably the HARMON HARPIE has squawked her twopence worth in support.
Old slappers club presumably.
Apparently Harman is also a trained lawyer. It would be interesting to hear her justification of the Attorney General breaking the law.
Bastards!
Perhaps I should elaborate or elucidate.
I hate the hideously white harriet hormone. I also detest the creature baroness Scotland. One suspects she was ‘enobled’ out of respect for her melanin and to put two fingers up to the electorate. It has worked well.
Lady Scotland conceded she had misjudged the character of Ms Tapui. “I thought she was a really nice woman, it looks as if I made a number
of errors of judgment in terms of her character,” she said.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23746977-details/Baroness+Scotland%27s+c-charge+excuse+for+5k+fine/article.do
Methinks that we have not heard the last from Loloahi Tapui. Mrs Scotland is making a big mistake in attacking her character, if she starts singing to the sunday papers then Gordon’s lawyer could well be sunk leving lots of floating wreckage..
“Its like failing to pay the congestion charge”
Really? A dawn raid by 40 police officers and a £120,000 fine sounds a little harsh then. Mind you this was just an ordinary farmer, not the Attorney General.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8142103.stm
Baroness? Barren-ness (of principle) more like.
I’d love to leaf through Mandelqueer’s expenses.
Cameron must be laughing his ass off.
Brown’s inability to sack this woman is a political and PR disaster and must be worth another couple of Tory MPs on the coming Conservative majority.
Good Grief! Brogan highlights Gordon Brown’s Newsweek article in this week’s edition. The front page of the International Edition has the headline…..’My Plan to Save the World’ by Gordon Brown.
What was the man thinking? It is beyond parody…
And on the Newsweek website ,next to a photo of the ugly git that is Brown is a link to;
“The Worst Man Made Disasters”
I guess it then talks all about Britain’s worst Prime Minister of all time and his 2 year disaster that will be written about in the history,social and economic books for decades to come.
And in his shitty article he has written on climate change (while the country he is leading so disastrously down the sewer of mankind continues it’s slide down the toilet);
QUOTE FROM NEWSWEEK;
“And if it is necessary to clinch the deal, I will personally go to Copenhagen to achieve it—and will be urging my fellow leaders to do so too.
Brown is the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.”
END OF QUOTE
And Brown is also the colour of shit.
And he’ll fly there from one of those new runways he’s ok’d.
Senor Guido
If you are on the receiving end of a £5,000/£10,000 fine, this does not seem merely a ‘civil” matter
* if you are an Employer struggling to keep your Business going despite this discredited Government’s efforts to tax & over-regulate your Business into oblivion, a £10,000 fine for a “non-intentional” oversight could well tip your Business into bankruptcy and closure
If it waddles and it quacks, it’s either a Duck or a Porking Parliamentarian
If it is a “fine”, it is criminal or (at the very least) quasi-criminal
It is not good enough for our wRetched Prime Minister to dismiss this as “non-intentional” so that this Young Lady can still stay in her Job as this wRetched Government’s Leading Law Officer
It was she that piloted this Legislation onto the Statute Book – perhaps she can now have some comprehension as to the impact of her wRetched legislation on ordinary folk, who have not accumulated loot from thei allowances to pay a £5,000 fine by return of post
She must resign without furhter prevarication
She should go – now!!
“There is a difference between inadvertantly breaking the law and deliberately making a mistake”
Er, how can one ‘deliberately’ make a ‘mistake’?
(Unless you’re Tommy Cooper, deliberately appearing to screw up some magic tricks, only to finish with a spectacularly successful one).
As for keeping the Baroness ‘at all costs’… unfortunately the taxpayer will be bearing those.
Perhaps you could ‘deliberately’ make a ‘mistake’ if you deliberately didn’t copy the documents which would have shown that you would have known the person you were employing had no right to work?
Personally I’m loving it all, like someone else has said they can’t understand that the longer it drags out the mopre seats they loose at the next election.
So then you’re only ‘technically’ in breach of the ‘rules’ – could be.
But, alas, Baroness S will still be in the House of Lords regardless of the results for the Commons.
Baroness Scotland, Alesha Dixon, tick the boxes but not up to the job.
Sputum
“Ridiculously they are now claiming that all ministers are entitled to claim the London allowance regardless of where they live.”
That does sound ridiculous. Do you have a link? The only statement I can find refers to the office holder’s allowance.
Am I alone in thinking that not every housekeeper is necessarily a ‘housekeeper’ ?.
More allowances all round if you employ your spouse, offspring, or ‘significant other’ in some rôle or other.
Not an accusation, but no sign of Mr Scotland sticking up for her as yet. It might explain a few things.
There’s an interesting concept. You run a business either at home or elsewhere and employ your wife / partner who is an overstayer / illegal. You are knowingly employing said partner and liable to a whopping big fine…. tragic best divorce the wife and sack her!!!!
I broke the law, but it doesn’t matter because I never meant to, honest guv.
Utter shite.
“technical breach”? eh? you mean you broke the law you stupid bitch.
Since when was breaking the law not a problem as long as you say that you only committed a “technical breach” ?
It all adds to the intense hatred that the public has towards labour party; they are going to be so massively fucked in 2010.
I wonder what it’s like to be a member of an organisation (labour) which generates more hatred than al queda.
Not many volunteers for door-to-door canvassing next year me thinks. I am practicing the ‘one-handed flip door slam ‘ technique now. The *astards.
If any Labour fucks turn up on my doorstep I will hit them. Simple.
Was Fred West only technically a murderer?
Well you see, technically he wasn’t a murderer as he committed suicide before he was brought to trial. Technically he was that nice friendly good for a laugh builder and a hard working family man.
Nothing will happen to her.
As has been pointed out:
1) she is a she
2) she is an ethnic (black caribbean in this case)
3) she is a labour-luvvie
4) she is a lawyer
She’ll put the fine on expenses, still keep claiming the housing allowance, still lie for broon.
She gives yardies a bad name yet will be held up as an example of how fnics can get on in labour run Britain.
Nothing can eradicate from my heart a deep and burning hatred for the Labour Party
My hatred for Brown is so great it could light up half of Nottingham (the other half’s on fire anyway with the druggies lighting up)
Seymour said
“She gives yardies a bad name yet will be held up as an example of how fnics can get on in labour run Britain.”
shorely “ruin Britain”
I think Guido means it. The crosshair is out.
Well it’s not like him to give up is it?
On a completely unrelated topic, the Dorries letter before action expires today does it not?
She is trying to make out that her only fault was to not photocopy the documents: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8269167.stm
How about all the companies that have gone out of business thanks to her law and the associated fines, all because they forgot to photocopy their employee’s fake documents?
Does Lady Scotland not realise that she is now an object of scorn, and far worse an object of ridicule? If she is ridiculous, she loses all credibility, just like a beat policeman who is laughed at by the crowd. Clearly she should resign.
An afterthought: has she ever been elected to anything?
Yes, the Bar.
Sir Reggie, one is ‘called’ not ‘elected’ to the Bar, she of course deserves neither but that is entirely another matter…
Listen you lot…
1) Baroness Scotland was not elected.
2) She was appointed by the Prime Minister.
3) The Prime Minister was not elected.
So, quite why you think you should have any say in how Lady Scotland remedies this slight technical breach of the rules is quite beyond us. Your comments and behaviour have been noted.
Get back to the paddy fields and shut up…
Spirit of New Labour, as so well illustrated by Mandybum on last nights Panorama, how dare someone ask me a question, I’m a Lord, I’m First Secretary of State, I’m Secretary Of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, I’m Lord President of the Council, in short I’m the greatest Queen who has ever lived, how very dare you ask me a question!
I will pay good money (any I have left after that bastard Brown has stolen it) to be in a room with Mandelson – just 2 minutes to rearrange his head using the instrument seen in a US ball game involving “strikes” etc.
Just two minutes – forget green paint thrown at him – serious rearranging of body parts.
Yeah, a complete tithead.
“You lowly BBC journalist – who gave you permission to speak to me, the almighty?”
I think her UK citizenship, the gift of which should be treated as an honour, should be revoked, she should have suffered a fine more in keeping with the size of trough and then be deported back to Dominica!
I doubt Dominica would have her back. Her standards are far too low and she is tainted beyond redemption by association with the filth who govern us.
Sorry it’s such a short clip:
Look at those eyes roll! She’s not disguising the fact that she sees herself as above this sort of thing. She is seething that she’s been forced to make a public apology. I don’t give a toss what colour she is, I care deeply that she continues to hold a position in which transgression of law – any law, cannot be countainanced. Decent pols……do your duty!
Interesting use of language. Who is ever ‘ bitterly ‘ sorry? You are ashamed, or
humbled, or extremely sorry. You are ‘bitter’ because you feel you are suffering an injustice. As you say, she feels she is above the law and why are the little people asking, why don’t they just go about their normal boring lives.
Country needs rid of her.
“Bitterly sorry”? So maybe her sorrow is phoney.
Bitterly sorry the Daily Mail sussed me out…..
Come on then fellow convicts, who amongst you is bitterly, bitterly sorry you forgot to pay the congestion charge.
No one? What a surprise.
Ah yes, another one of those interesting ZuNu taxes! good on the Yanks for not paying up.
The one and only time that I forgot, I was bitter that there was no second chance, you forget, you get the penalty tax! end of.
She is the sort that would have ‘cloned’ number plates so that she does not have the inconvenience of paying up!
The comment I would like to make would not be allowed to made on any public broadcast media – enough to say that there’s a place for this type of person and her fraudulent sidekick Brown…makes my blood boil.
By the time Brown leaves office after the election thrashing coming soon,there will be so much anger in this country we shall ALL be on the same sedatives that the scottish piece of shit is currently stuffing into his ugly mouth.
That was not an apology.
Bitterly sorry that you got caught
This nothing,piece of shit,nonentity,human flotsam is the prime legal entity in this country?
You must be mistaken – this must be someone on her way to Primark to steal some more clothes for her asylum seeking children,surely?
Where is the REAL Attorney General – cos it ain’t this travesty.
The reporter has obviously made a mistake – I hope he is BITTERLY sorry……
All together now:
Thiiiiings can only get bitter…
I fear not.
It’s all in that face, short and sweet, she wanted a cheap cleaning slave, did not want to pay a decent wage and is bitter that she should be deprived of her rights to that slave in such a public way!
It is even worse because she would be claiming it all back, she could have employed staff via an agency, who could have handled all the difficult to understand paperwork, but no, she wanted save a few pence and thought she could get away with it!
She’s a fucking ugly bitch.
Wait till you see the replacement…..
Oh no….Ive only just noticed Boateng has served out his time of luxury in Pretoria…please, no, please tell me he’s not the replacement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Boateng
She actually looks like the illegal that she employed – perhaps they are the same person?
That photo looks like a Jap sniper looking back the other way.
Yeah but.. you don’t look at the fireplace, doggy style.
Agreed – she should be horsewhipped outa town. Arrogant cow.
Seen Sir Michael White’s pathetic ramblings? he’s getting a *right* kicking on the Guardian. MW thinks we shouldnt’ expect a minister to have to check somone’s passport FFS – it’s not liek they should abide by the laws they push through is it Michael?
What a cockhead.
Saw this on the Guardian comments from “Palinurus”;
Quote;
“The real reason Brown is meeting Ghaddafi at the UN is to learn how to desperately hold onto power whilst simultaneously being a barking moonbat.”
hehe.
Posted a link to this earlier = but worth a second:
http://tiny.cc/zyYxh
“Libyan officials posed as Dutch diplomats to try to find Colonel Gaddafi a place to stay this week on his first visit to the US.
The envoys, including one calling himself Ronald, approached a property agent on the Upper East Side of New York to inquire about renting the Barclay Mansion, a six-storey townhouse on East 78th Street.
Jason Haber, who has a master’s degree from Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs, realised the ruse and the deal did not go through. ”
- The Times
THAT’S why our kids need degrees nowadays – to identify the terrorists camping illegally in our parks!
The terrorists have the best degrees and don’t camp in parks.
The “Baroness Scotland” defence angle is going to come up again & again now.
Our chambers are already re-dressing the strategy in two cases on the basis of this judgement.
The Attorney General has set a legal precedent that has just destroyed the Law she helped introduce.
Excellent.
Can anybody give a link to contribute towards the Devon farmer’s legal costs?
This may be the most significant blog here – how has the hitherto interpretation of the current Law been refracted in the bent light of this case?
Very interesting !!
excellent; so I guess the “I didn’t mean to break the law, honest guv, I’m just a stupid twat that’s all.” is now an acceptable/valid defence.
marvellous.
Just resign.
Does anybody in the governing party have any sense of honour or public service?
Not for the past 20 years or so.
Uddin and Scotland. Both should be booted out of the Lords.
She’s not going to go, is She?
I’m rather amused that the Attorney General actually employs a cleaner without even getting her security checked.
The next thing we know is her advice on the legality of the war in Afghanistan has been nicked.
Clearly she can’t organise a piss-up in a brewery but then GoBro can’t either and he’s the PM; no wonder he let her off.
Stop saying bad tings about me Julie.
Take the shame, man – you is well bad.
Westside!
Where is the housekeeper though? Seriously I’m worried for her safety. She’d be will advised not to go for any walks in the woods.
I hope she does not flirt with Co-Proxamol or blunt knives!
She was in a wood near Calais this morning – well it WAS a wood until the French tested their chainsaws out this afternoon.
My MP claimed for a chainsaw on his expenses – he also bought a house for £2.5M without a mortgage.Just give me a minute with that chainsaw – the entire front bench cabinet could be decapitated within 30 seconds – what a mess that would make.
Compared to the lying, deceiving, bullshitting and wriggling this person has been doing, the original misdemeanor pales in comparison.
I can now see that Rich & Mark capture her likeness rather well on Monday although have to say that in the video clip above there appears to be a bit of a smirk going on!
Forgot to say when I first saw the cartoon I thought, those teeth, surely not, but now, spot on!
BBC:
“The agency’s chief executive Lin Homer said the agency was satisfied Baroness Scotland “did not knowingly employ an illegal worker” and had taken steps to check documents “provided to her as proof of right to work in the UK”.”
But it’s just her word against the rest of the world if there’s no paper trail whatsoever; that’s the whole point of having to make photocopies; that’s your defence/proof that you did actually check the documents. By not having those copies you’re guilty of intentionally employing an illegal worker; she fucking said so when she passed the law in the first place.
Sometimes I can’t believe just how corrupt our government is, but then I remember they’re a labour government and so nothing really surprises me corruption or negligence-wise.
The BBC says that because she’s an individual and not a company that it’s actually all ok and nothing to worry about.
Woe betide the first “Shadow Cabinet ” member to have been found to have not photocopied their cleaner’s passport and checked they have a right to work.
The expected BBC News Report should go something like this :-
“Clearly a very serious breach of immigration regulations – Nick ?” “Yes Jon – whilst the claim that the “Shadow Minister” did not knowingly break the law could be said to mitigate the breach of the law by some it is clearly a very serious matter for someone who could be in the Cabinet next year and I would expect the pressure to build on David Cameron to sack the offender.This of course ignores any matter of legal proceedings against the offender and in confidence I have been told that criminal charges could very well be brought fairly soon following the raid by the UK Border Agency on the front bencher’s home which everyone will have seen on the news report just a moment ago as we fortunately had a camera crew with the agency at the time”
“So to summarise Nick – the Tories and David Cameron in particular is under mounting pressure tonight ?”
“Yes – Jon I think that it questions the claim by David Cameron that he and his party are the ones to trust on the matter of immigration and law and order”
It’s one law for the government and its minions, another for the rest of us. Rather than leading by example as they should be doing, this unhappy and ramshackle mob are just milking the system for all its worth while sticking the proverbial two fingers up to those on whose behalf they are supposed to be governing.
There is something foul and rotten at the heart of this government, and nobody is prepared to do a thing about it. They do not deserve even thew low level of support they are currently getting in the polls.
The hag’s gotta go. Simples.
Yawn.
More Labour low life.
Whatever happened to Baroness Udders ? Anything ?
Last seen shoplifting in the West End
Yeah quite – and the rest of the f***ing troughers. All gone a bit too quiet for my liking!
Is pawning her 23000 quid Beamer on Ebay, no bidders yet
Michael White in the Guardian:
“Scotland is a competent female, black lawyer. A second chance is called for.”
Michael White’s comments are racist by any yardstick
He is quite clearly stating that because she is “black” she cannot be held to the same levels of due diligence & honesty as “non blacks”.
And of course by default he is stating that there should be no second chances for “non blacks”.
Where is Trevor Philips and his £93 million a year budget?
White is at this very moment being gang shafted by his own readers on the Guardian website – superb to read!
Blimey – Brown will be lucky to keep a couple of Labour seats whenever he shows a tiny bit of the thing he loves to write about and actually calls a General Election.
I am going to buy a pile of beer on the Thursday Election Day,plus a box of Pro Plus and sit and watch the removal of the most odious fraudster take place in the following 48 hours (his councils seem to be trying to prolong the moment by refusing to count the votes during the night…delicious!).
That moment is the only thing that keeps me going these days – sad eh?
I am going to buy a pile of beer on the Thursday Election Day,plus a box of Pro Plus
Me too, and some man size scotties to make the enjoyment complete.
Not at all… I’m going to harvest the asparagus (2010 first year we can harvest it) crack open a couple of bottles of vintage champagne and drink them slowly but steadily.
The next day I’m going to drive up to the village shop with ‘Land of Hope and Glory’ blaring from the car CD player, and stick a notice in the window asking everyone to demand the resignation of the Parish Council.
270 where is she??
Like you i find it worrying that this lady and her husband are so quiet on this
Brian
a cleaner or a lover
now that is a question
hmmmm,my thoughts too
a cleaner of a mate who you can claim expenses against
“or a mate” bloody hell my typing is pathetic today
I knew she would get away with it. One law for them, another for
us.
What about her housing allowance? And Baroness Wotsit of Blethyl. Hers as well?
So, the Cabinet chap says the Baroness has got me a payrise .
What a decent auld trout she is. And Gordo too.
Means I can have more time away from boring Scotland. Can it get better??
There was a time when they would drown witches in a pond!
I think this applies more to Harpy Harperson myself.
Funny how Harriet Harman was only speeding at 99 mph when she was caught.
Even Harold Wilson would have sacked Scotland for this. The do as I say not as I do disease seems to have become endemic amongst XaNuLabour apparatchics.
As for Mikail White’s comments, words fail me.
Just another example of the New Labour Caste system which has arisen during their tenure in power. Never has there been such elitism in our society as there exists now.
New Labour, New Aristocracy !
No sense of honour – no backbone…….she is just typical of the new breed of nulabour cowards.
They are NEVER wrong – even when their crime is staring them and the rest of us in the face. At least the tories had the guts to admit their failings and resign, when caught out – something nulabour do not understand.
Why can’t these nasty, dumbed down low lives just admit wrong doing when they are caught out? They are such pathetic examples of the human race. It’s no wonder the social fabric of the country is falling apart with losers like Scotland in top jobs.
Put her on a boat to Australia, one way ticket, stripped of her title, why was she given a title anyway, isnt that where we USED to send convicts to?
The question is did she check the woman’s passport and checked for a valid work Visa? If not why not?
Fuck the photocopy shite, did she check this woman out yes or no. Why can’t our gutless media ask her THAT question or better still can we get to find out what documents she did check?
What are valid documents anyway? I have always been asked for a birth certificate or valid UK passport as the ONLY proof.
Perhaps the woman was a member of the Liebour party?
Seeing as the documents were either fake or didn’t exist in the first place (by definition one of those must be true if she was an illegal worker), I’m assuming that what Scotland saw was something like a hand-written note from her cleaner saying something like:
”
me can workee here. I is aloud to work four monee.
thanks you
”
Scotland saw how cheap she was, and just said “yes, you can workee for me. welcome to labour’s britain.”
House elves, apply here…..
I gotta feeling that she did NOT check. Wait for the Sunday papers to speak to her servant and report back. This story has legs, unless the Baroness buys the servant off in the meantime.
She could find a new role as one of those surly F****RS who man the UK Border Agency airport desks, holding up all the white passengers while planes from Africa disgorge their content unhindered into ZuNuLiebor’s utopia.
Our airports are a fucking joke. Check out the movie ‘airplane’ where the little old lady triggers the alarms whilst all the terrorist scum walk through with their AK-47′s and RPG’s. That movie must be 25 years old yet got airport security right on.
Stop all the Christian whitey’s but let all the bearded Muslims through unhindered.
Never mind the ‘omitted’ photocopies. Where is the cleaner and where are the originals?
If she’s got any sense, cutting a deal with a red top for megawodge.
The originals? What originals? Do you still believe in fairies?
Watch the interview on Sky she is attempting to turn this issue into one about the difficulties faced by “working Women” . Such a tatic is pathetic. She came across very poorly in the interview in General.
Totally out her depth for holding such high office.
There is more to this I agree, the point about her husband being a solicitor has been raised previously and it is certainly a strange one.
More to this than meets the eye.
Finally
Her Name is irrelevant
Her Gender is irrelevant
The colour of her skin is irrelevant
Even her Political persuassions are irrelevant
what is relevant however is the integrity of the office she holds
Do the right Thing Baroness..
by “her husband” I mean of course the cleaners husband.
Sigh. I see Toenails’ blog on this subject has now been closed for comments.
And they haven’t even moderated about half the ones that have been submitted yet!
To be honest I have resieted the temptation to post on apparent Bias at The BBC, beliEving that most such claims are best left to the conspiracy theorist. However it now is so blatantly obvious that I am firmly of the view that such political bias is at work.
.See my post @ 307 above. I did it as “tongue in cheek” but I’m beginning to think that that is how a Tory AG being found to have done the same thing would be reported by the “impartial” BBC
Yeah ‘cos everyone’s screaming for her to go.
Brown should sack the bitch. He won’t because he is gutless.
Scotland has no moral authority. Brown has no moral authority. Brown is off to tell the world how to save itself – the world will laugh straight back.
The more I think about this the more it angers me.
Baroness Scotland ain’t no innocent on immigration law, she made it. Yet she is quite happy for innocent small employers who fall foul of the law to be punished (for them a 5k fine can be the difference between solvency and insolvency). But when it applies to her she becomes a special case.
And why does she meed a housekeeper in the first place, is she incapable of washing up or hoovering?
Its more likely that she doesn’t want to be seen fulfilling the only role she is really capable of.
plotting some kind of internet raid on the conservative party website:
http://www.tinychat.com/btards?n=1keshisafaggot