September 17th, 2009

++ Sunlight Reports Baroness Scotland to UK Border Agency ++

Letter here.

baroness scotlandUPDATE : Now if the standard operational procedure for law breaking by senior government figures as per the New Labour school of spin is followed (as executed in the past by Harriet Harman and Peter Hain) Patricia Scotland will report herself to the UKBA.  They report themselves so they can spin “when I became aware of the technical breach of the rules blah blah.”  They are not rules, they are laws, laws which the Attorney General has sworn to uphold….

UPDATE II : Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling is demanding answers to some difficult questions from Baroness Scotland

“The Government has been absolutely clear that small employers should carry full legal responsibility if they hire illegal immigrants. Baroness Scotland should be no different, she should face a proper investigation by the Border Agency and should face the same sanctions as any other employer.”

UPDATE III : Just got off the phone again with the SpAd who this morning said (repeatedly) there would be no further statements, she gave a further statement saying “Baroness Scotland has reported the matter to the relevant authorities”. How predictable…

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398 Comments

  1. 1
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Gosh, I never realised that schadenfreude could be so much fun. But it really is, isn’t it?

  2. 2
    Michael says:

    But the fact remains she IS one of the Nu Labour anointed ones.

  3. 3
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Let’s see the official receipt

  4. 4
    Mitch says:

    This reminds me of when Hain went. She’s got no chance; it’s only a matter of time.

  5. 5
    Papasmurf says:

    Shit + Fan = Bye Bye Scotland

  6. 6
    Number 6 says:

    Like it action instead of pissing and moaning, more of it. Let’s all get involved there are enough motivated people here to really stick it to the bastards.

  7. 7

    Sorry, I don’t understand what the big deal is. One minute you accuse Labour of passing too many laws and having too much red tape.

    Now you complain when a Labour Minister simply forgot she’d passed one little law? Sheesh.

    It’s the same with the way you treat Gordon Brown. OK. He made one little mistake with the economy. But that’s no reason to condemn the entire Labour government, is it?

    I say give the man 5 MORE YEARS. Just think what he can do.

  8. 8
    Sod 'em all says:

    Have any of these grubby fuckers – ANY – ever been prosecuted for all this thieving and law-breaking??

  9. 9
    Hadrian says:

    If only………

    Oh, *that* Scotland.
    Ho hum.

  10. 10
    SO17 says:

    Bang on ‘Within the rules’ don’t count here.
    Use the wonky system they have created to fuck them with and then scrap the lot.

  11. 11
    Hadrian says:

    It’s fair to say you’re not a fan then?

  12. 12
    ian e says:

    Just wait for the claims of racism against those accusing Baroness Scotland!!

  13. 13
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    I think you will find that Elliot Morley MP has been charged and is currently awaiting a court appearence but great care must be taken due to the Sub Judice
    requirements.

  14. 14
    Anonymous says:

    The ‘FULL CONFIDENCE’ moment has been passed…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8261200.stm

    How long after this can she survive ? 12 hours ? 24 ? 36 hours ? Or 48 hrs ?

    Perhaps Guido should do a ‘straw poll’ ??

  15. 15
    streamfisher says:

    Call me cynical (some people do), but even if she is subjected to the law (which she introduced) and is fined £10,000 pounds, I suspect she will claim it back on ‘expenses’.

  16. 16
    English Viking says:

    Blair shredded it.

  17. 17
    Anonymous says:

    Diversity Star Smashes Head During No 10 Show

    Curse of Gordon strikes again

    The 13-year-old star of dance troupe Diversity was left in tears after landing on his head during a show for the Prime Minister…

  18. 18
    Tavish McTavish says:

    We’ll take independence, you can keep your Sharia Law.

  19. 19
    Mondeoman says:

    12 minutes is to long, if this drags GB down the path a little further, all the better.

  20. 20
    English Viking says:

    Who is number 1?

  21. 21
    Ignorantia Jurus Non Excusat says:

    Whether or not Baroness Scotland faces prosecution is immaterial to whether she remains in post. As the most senior law officer in the government her position is compromised and untenable. Anyone with an ounce of political “nous” would have realised as soon as the Daily Mail approached her office with the allegations that it was only a matter of time before she would forfeit her job.

    He continuance in office whilst proving a continual embarassment to the government more seriously also impugns the office of Attorney General.

    The relevant clause of the act is irrefutable and even if documentation was seen that is subsequently found to be forged that is no defence under the Act .If Patricia Scotland stays in office and also escapes prosecution then effectively this part of the legislation is unenforceable to all intents and purposes. Any “Brief” worth his or her fee would immediately raise it with the judge to have the case summarily dismissed or if that fails make ample use of it in the summation to the jury.

    The whole matter should have been dealt with before 8am this morning by Brown picking up the phone and requiring Patricia Scotland’s letter of resignation on his desk before 9.00am to-day. It is merely putting off the inevitable and damaging the government every minute this continues without resolution. It’s another bad example of Brown’s lack of decison and poor political judgement

  22. 22
    Nail 'em up I say says:

    Irony, like it, like it, nice one centurion.

  23. 23
    Mondeoman says:

    Those Celeb photoshoot moemnets do take their toll, hopefully the young man is OK, but all for the sake of the great leader, it is wrong.

  24. 24
    streamfisher says:

    I always knew the New labour Project would all end in tears.

  25. 25
    Rexel 56 says:

    I remember the good old days when a public prosecutor had to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you had done something…….

    ….. now you get summarily fined up to £10,000 for not being able to prove that you have done something, in this case photocopy a document.

    Ah well, good to see the bastards hoisted on their own petard.

  26. 26
    Dogger says:

    Keith ‘Vazeline’ Vaz doing a great job of defending his mate Baroness ‘Scotty’ Scotland on World at One, never more repulsive. Can we now look forward to ex “Justice” Minister Shahid ‘Shady’ Malik to step in with a good few words, Baroness ‘Udders’ Uddin to fly in from Bangladesh to provide emollient wisdom and Paul Boateng to come out of hiding with some hyper-agressive legal claptrap and we have the makings of an intifada.

  27. 27

    You people should be ashamed of yourselves what with talking down Elliot Morley and all.

    Elliot was a great man and a wonderful MP and just made one little mistake. So what if he couldn’t count? That’s NORMAL in Britain today. Don’t we want our MPs to be just like normal people? Not all toffs with calculators and Macintosh iPhones.

    It must have been difficult for Mr Morley what with being born with the wrong size head and everything.

  28. 28
    Mitch says:

    You summarise the situation very well. She was always toast, and Brown should’ve recognised that straight away.

  29. 29
    EC1 PhD says:

    Let’s have more delay from Brown and ultimately more damage to the Government. However, once the good Lady starts touring the TV studios, aka Mandy of past resignations, it’ll be a matter of hours. Mandy will insist on this so he can then add another brass plate to his shameful return to UK politics.

  30. 30
    albacore says:

    The one between your ears or the one detailing your arty-farty allegations?

  31. 31
    Jimmy says:

    My posts about the Sunlight Centre have mysteriously disappeared. Perhaps there is a fault.

  32. 32

    She won’t go, it’ll be spun away like everything else, or she will quietly disappear and reappear at some stage later in the year like The Prince of Darkness did. Twice.

  33. 33
    Old Rockape says:

    Major Plonker you certainly are.

  34. 34
    Murdochs PR Company says:

    Cynical

  35. 35

    Wow! Is ToryBear a government minister in charge of upholding the law of the land?

    Apart from a habit he seems to share with the current US president, he’s done nothing illegal.

    Is this the best Labours’ Smeerkats can come up with?

  36. 36
    Jordan says:

    It’s true. I was once raped by a famous celebrity. But the other 150 occasions we had sex it was consentual.

  37. 37
    Archie Salmond says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    Baroness Scotland’s Tongan housemaid / cleaner was originally recommended to Baroness Scotland by Lord Fondlebumloaders in order to oust her (not the cleaner – B Scotland!) from her position within the House of Lords – thus making way for Lord Fondlebumloaders

    FREE SCOTLAND

  38. 38
    Steve Expat says:

    Well said, and good name – Non Excusat indeed for the Baroness.

    A round of applause to the Sunlight team, another donation on the way to them this afternoon!

  39. 39
    Murdochs PR Company says:

    Mmmmmm Scotland covered in marmalade

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    I thought what he could do and I broke out in a cold sweat.

  41. 41
    Dave Cropcircle says:

    Fecking pirates they are arrrggggghhh. We want our ship back complete with Union Jack. We should make these planks walk. Arrrggggghh

  42. 42
    Bert the Cert says:

    Couldn’t agree more Major. Bliar was a fantastic pm too.

  43. 43
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    she wiped her arse with the documents by mistake and flushed it away by mistake……..

  44. 44
    Dave Cropcircle says:

    Don’t you mean trojan housemaid?

  45. 45

    I agree. What a racist comment. The woman in question happens to be the Queen of Scotland and you should show a little deference, Jimmy.

    And as for Scotland. Yes, we want independence. We want to ditch the Union so we can join the European Union. Scotland should be ruled in Scotland by Scots and not in London by foreigners like Gordon Brown.

  46. 46
    Anonymous says:

    I think they know that they’re so damaged already, a few more dents won’t make a scrap of difference.

  47. 47
    Retching says:

    Do you see the poor boy on the news last night, literally being poked by Lord Mandelson whilst Brown and Balls looked on, giggling and, no doubt, exploding in their pants.

  48. 48
    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:

    So did mine a few months ago. Must be a bug. :rolleyes:

  49. 49
    Emergency DivEq Team spokesperson says:

    Yeah, wew, – we rushed ‘ere, but Gordo ‘ad already done first aid.

    Nuffin we could’a dun after that!

  50. 50
    David Coultard says:

    Eddie – are you OK now?

  51. 51
    Anonymous says:

    Guido can be a little sensitive about his alter ago at times

  52. 52
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Er, I think you may have forgotten to take your medication. We folks south of the border may seem a bit strange to you (and for good reason), but we don’t have Sharia Law.

  53. 53
    Sukyspook says:

    You missed the first ones already Ian E – come on, keep up!! (Or perhaps you “have a life” other than hanging around here lol).

    No worries, I’m sure there’ll be more – it’s part of the ‘programme’.

  54. 54
    Sukyspook says:

    Doh! beat me to it.

  55. 55

    Cold sweats are a result of global warming. They’re natures way of correcting the balance.

    But just think what Brown could do with another 5 years. Everyone complains that he’s messed up the energy policy. But what with global warming and all, who needs energy?

    The future is Brown.

  56. 56
    Free as a bird says:

    I bet she knows the “keep out of jail” handshake that Harriet Harman and Tervor Philips would promote, you know, among the “oppressed”.

  57. 57
    Trough Mixture says:

    Have No.10 done a proper risk assessment for when young men are called to dance for the rattler’s entertainment?

  58. 58
    Anonymous says:

    Ironic that with so many Scotch hoons in our parliament the one called Baroness Scotland isn’t one (Scotch I mean, she’s definitely a hoon).

  59. 59
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Legitimate research into how the laws she created work in practice. Perfectly necessary and incurred strictly in the line of duty.

  60. 60
    Glad to be of assistance says:

    51 DOM2

    Oh, yes you do!

  61. 61
    StevieB says:

    Very poor show: this ‘Baroness’ should resign immediately, “pending the outcome of any investigation…”

    But of course she will not, and the inevitable will just be a slow, painfully drawn out affair.

    It never ceases to amaze me that when it looks like the game is up, politicians cannot quickly fall on their sword – and get some credit for doing so from the electorate – and they can then slither back at a later date. Sticking your head in the sand just damages you more in the long run.

    Do these idiots not have advisors ? Oh yes, they do have ‘SpAds’. Maybe their advisors need advisors ? Create a few new jobs…?

  62. 62
    Sod 'em all says:

    Don’t panic! Coming soon: The Nu Tories. 12 more years of decay just around the corner under CMD.

  63. 63
    Steve Expat says:

    It says a lot about Broon’s own tenency that he didn’t have the guts to immediately sack her for something so blatant

  64. 64

    I was going to complain about the these comments being racist. Then I realised they’re sexist too. But Mrs Scotland is also a Lady. So maybe these comments are classist? This stuff can do yer nut in.

  65. 65
    Centre Parting says:

    Free Scotland with every four gallons.

  66. 66
    StevieB says:

    Joe – I remember with fondness that goal you scored to get us to the ’74 World Cup.
    Sorry to hear about your bumming.

  67. 67
    Mitch says:

    by mistake, but in good faith, and with no malive aforethough, or in any perjorative sense

  68. 68
    Jimmy says:

    Perhaps someone here can help. Firstly why Baroness Scotland is apparently obliged to provide documentation to some spotty herbert with a blog (or “pressure group” as I think it’s rather pompously called), and secondly, seeing that all Galley seems to do is write one letter a week about whatever he read in the paper the previous day, why haven’t the the financials which guido promised weeks ago been posted yet.

  69. 69

    The Times Law Corner claims she has acted and I quote ‘entirely innocently’ I have told them to go and sit in the corner with a dunce’s hat on.

    They are wrong, no ifs or buts, just wrong. They have obviously not read the Home Office guidelines.

  70. 70
    Number 6 says:

    That would be telling

  71. 71
    Ed Ballsup writing in the new scotsman says:

    Labour
    it’s what we do…….
    it’s what we are……
    do do do
    dah dah dah

    and we don’t like camera

  72. 72
    Anonymous says:

    Oh dear.. Post 9 has disappeared..

    I wonder why ?

  73. 73
    I Have Seen The Future And It Sucks says:

    The future is Brown because we are all in deep deep shit.

  74. 74
  75. 75
    JMT says:

    Rapped, Rapped you dumb b****h. Not singing to you again.

  76. 76

    What’s wrong with Sharia law? Under Sharia you can go down the pub, get pissed as a fart, go home, beat one wife and sleep with the other one. I thought this was what ‘progressive’ politics was all about, eh?

  77. 77
    Dave Cropcircle says:

    Investigation launched now according to Telegraph

  78. 78
    Tongan Cheek says:

    To be honest, I’m glad to be out of that woman’s grip.

    I’m going to let you into a little secret: she’s no more Scottish than I am.

  79. 79
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    59:

    Sorry, must have missed that. Thanks for clearing that up.

    BTW, just remind me which Act of Parliament introduces Sharia Law?

  80. 80

    Was Blair PM? Damn. I must have nodded off. I always thought he was just Gordon’s front man….

  81. 81
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    Majer P:

    Would be most grateful if you would accept one Scottish James Gordon Brown back into the fold!

  82. 82
    fedupwithbrown says:

    Times have changed under labour. Tories MP’s were thrown into jail for far less than this labour lot have done. Not one labour MP prosecuted in the last 12 years as far as I know. We want justice not excuses.

  83. 83
    blumpkin says:

    er… when you put it like that…

  84. 84
    Latin spellchecker says:

    That should be “Ignorantia juris non excusat”.

  85. 85
    Sod 'em all says:

    Just another publicity stunt? Who’d want to poke a dog like that, anyway? Talk about plastic.

  86. 86
    The Cunt of Monte Cristo says:

    Go on love, get some party vermin to hint darkly about media hatchet jobs and ‘racism’.
    After all why should you have to follow the rules, and god forbid resign, you’re a NeoLabour insider innit.

    Can I suggest you consider one of the lice infested Afghans near Sangatte as your next skivvy

  87. 87
    Not impressed says:

    How utterly trivial.

    How the fuck am I supposed to know whether my cleaner is here illegally or not. You really think anyone asks to see their cleaner’s immigration papers?

  88. 88

    TOAST? TOAST? You are a filthy racist. Just because Mrs Scotalnd has brown skin is no reason to call her TOAST.

  89. 89
    Hilda Rumpole says:

    Ahh! The Pete Townshend defence… Nice.

  90. 90
    Anonymous says:

    Arseholes are Brown

  91. 91
    bandersnatch says:

    Waiting for the shit to hit you.

  92. 92
    Jonah Watch says:

    see how long he took to “take full responsibility” and sack McPoison

    (talking of which, how are his & dolly’s court cases going..?)

  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    i think baroness scotland is a pretty cool guy. eh shits all over the statutes and doesnt afraid of anything.

  94. 94
    Trevor Philips says:

    Give ‘er another chance you racist nazi bastard detracters! Discrimination innit. You never complained about Mandy. This is just becos she is black wiv a bad memory.

  95. 95
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Another thought has occurred to me.

    Baroness Scotland claims that she saw documents that led her to believe that her employee was here legally. Of course if she didn’t keep copies of them, that’s irrelevant, but let’s say for the sake of argument that she did.

    There are then 3 possibilities. One is that they were completely the wrong documents, which anyone who knows anything about immigration should immediately know are wrong. That’s something I can easily see a small businessman getting caught up in unintentionally, but the Baroness couldn’t legitimately claim for a minute that she didn’t know they were the wrong documents.

    Possibility 2 is that they were obvious and crude forgeries. Again, the average small business owner could easily get caught out here, but the person who wrote the laws on immigration has absolutely no excuse for not spotting such a forgery.

    That leaves possibility 3, which is that they were sophisticated and convincing forgeries. That’s the only way in which the Baroness might be genuinely innocent. And if that’s true, how come there is no news of an immediate investigation into what would clearly be a highly organised criminal forging operation?

  96. 96
    Steve Expat says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6202306/Immigration-officials-to-investigate-Attorney-General-Baroness-Scotland-over-housekeeper.html – Lead story now, how fucked up is this country when something so serious is not a resigning matter for the person in charge of the law?

  97. 97

    Correct. The problem is that if she resigns, who will rule Scotland?

    The similarities between the good Baroness and William Wallace are astonishing. Started out in Scotland and ended up hung, drawn and quartered in England.

    Will Mel Gibson want to make a movie of her life too?

  98. 98
    Mixed bag says:

    “Scotland was born in Dominica to Antiguan and Dominican parents, but her family moved to Walthamstow when she was three.” Wikipedia (must be accurate). So what passport does she carry then?

  99. 99
    Non-Committal says:

    You lie! The Barony of Scotland is her birthright!

  100. 100
    Anonymous says:

    How the fuck am I supposed to know whether my cleaner is here illegally or not. You really think anyone asks to see their cleaner’s immigration papers?

    Since the law requires you to check your cleaner’s immigration papers, yes, I do expect it.

    Since Baroness Scotland is the most senior jurist in England and Wales, yes, I do expect her to obey the laws under which she and her government regularly prosecute other people.

    I’m sorry you think it’s trivial that people are regularly fined under this law. I’m sorry you think that breaking the laws you have yourself introduced is unimportant. I’m sorry you think it’s acceptable for this phony baroness (herself a Dominican immigrant) to prosecute and fine people for doing exactly what she has been doing.

    I’m sorry that you’re happy to live in a country where we have one law for the common folk and another for party apparatchiks with fake titles. Mostly, though, I’m sorry that you’re alive.

  101. 101
    Sod 'em all says:

    Relax everyone. Sky just reported that Brown has given her his full confidence. She’s done for.

  102. 102
    Anonymous says:

    44 : If she’s the queen of Scotland then that makes her Idi’s husband, right ?

  103. 103
    bandersnatch says:

    Trojan housekeeper… purleas! Let’s have a bit of faux dignity here.

  104. 104
    Sod 'em all says:

    Dunno, but presumably it’s dried out by now.

  105. 105
    Anonymous says:

    The unctous oily Vaz has today given the world the benefit of his considered opinion on this issue. Let us give thanks pray.

  106. 106
    fedupwithbrown says:

    Is a lawbreaker allowed to have the job as Attorney General? If so then our democracy is completely shafted.

  107. 107
    those big cheeks. spread em. says:

    Barons don’t have to wipe their own arses you common prole !
    They don’t call them maids Tongans for nothing.

  108. 108
    Anonymous says:

    Is she related to Vaz? He’s very supportive.

  109. 109
  110. 110
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Will she hung, drawn and quartered at the Tower like what we did to Mel Gibberish?

  111. 111
    Mr Vaz says:

    Dear Not Impressed

    We haven’t gone to all this trouble to pass laws protecting the Nation from Tongan immigrants only to find that people such as the Baroness Scotland and yourself choose to ignore such legislation – please report to your local Police Station if it is still open .

    Really! Some people!

  112. 112
    Cardinal Biggles says:

    Yes indeed, there are remarkable similarities between Baroness Scotland and William Wallace.

    I believe she once showed her a&se to a group of Englishmen in Falkirk.

  113. 113
    Anonymous says:

    Subtle !!

  114. 114
    The Mad Hatter says:

    Under New Labour, of course, it is possible to be innocent and guilty at the same time, and this is what has happened to the Baroness. If we believe her story, then she is innocent under the normal meaning of the word, but guilty under a law that she was involved in passing. In the unlikely event that she is treated in the same way as any other employer, and fined £10,000, I wouldn’t put it past this shower to find a way of sending the bill back to the taxpayer.

  115. 115
    Ignorantia Jurus Non Excusat says:

    Trivial – well you may be right on that and I understand your sentiments BUT the law on this is explicit – as the employer you are deemed to be responsible under the terms of the Act.It is YOUR responsibility to ensure that the said employee is legally able to work in the UK and to take records/copies of any relevant documentation supplied to prove this and check with the appropriate authorities that they are “legit”. If you’re employing anyone my advice(free of charge as you’re on this blog) is check their employment is legal by seeing the relevant documentation and check its not a forgery because YOU will be liable if anything is not as it should be- as the saying goes – “No ifs or buts” you will be committing an offence

    Any complaints I suggest you contact the Government – Attorney General’s Office

  116. 116
    bandersnatch says:

    I myself am utterly assiduous about this: I have ALWAYS asked to see every one of my merry band of cleaners’ immigration papers… Without them the enormous privilege of dragging the hoover over my shagpile, making my beds, wiping my loo out and putting the Harperson it is NEVER ALLOWED.

  117. 117

    M’Lord i understand that certain media types, and dare I say, so called internet journalists.. or bloggers have found my client guilty without hearing the case for the defence.
    if it pleases the court I would like to show precedent in relation to ‘Law versus Office’
    Your honour I cite.

    1} Smith vs Taxpayer – found in favour of Smith’s right to choose any residence, even a skip if she so chooses to be her main residence.

    2} Hoon and Mcnulty vs Ian Gibson – {Quite pertinent M’Lord as this directly relates to different treatment standards relating to Offices held.}

    3} Ahmed versus justice – victory Ahmed

    4}Hoon/Darling vs HMRC – Hoon/Darling no case to answer
    Cooper-Balls – The ‘its complicated’ defence M’Lord. no further explanation required in this case.

    5} Prescott vs impropriety. In summary no case to answer.

    6} Martin vs sanity. Michael Martin made a life Peer m’lud. Despite ample evidence of his unfitness for any office but plenty of evidence of troughing.

    7} Mandelson vs mortgages, Vaz/Blunkett vs Immigration
    and of course the Uddin ‘Bollocks to you lot. I’m untouchable’ case.

    I believe that this will be sufficient for now, but if the court requires several hundred other cases can be cited.

    The defence rests.

  118. 118
    John Evans says:

    She is a true member of this countries kakistocracy

  119. 119
    Anonymous says:

    exactly…. but under rules she made, anyone who hasn’t checked and copied the papers are now liable for a £10k fine.

    So people have been forced into going through the expense (in time and money) of checking, or being fined because they haven’t – except she thinks she doesn’t have to bother.

  120. 120
    Tony B says:

    “Herself a Dominican immigrant” – I thought she looked like my cleaner’s mother!

  121. 121
    Cardinal Biggles says:

    I guess his defence should be that he is a victim of NuLab’s education system, and English and Mathematics are like a foriegn language to him.

  122. 122
    Jimmy says:

    “Just got off the phone again with the SpAd ”

    For heaven’s sake do they not have call screening?

  123. 123
    fedupwithbrown says:

    No they forgot they’d introduced those laws too. Mum’s probably taking legal advice. Hope that stops the Downing Street circus in its tracks. Plebs!

  124. 124
    Anonymous says:

    Is the letter signed by the same Chris Galley who broke the Official Secrets Act – I’m sure he is told to retain a copy of the paper he signed. If so he shoudl be told that it isn’t good form to grass up fellow law breakers.

    Perhaps Sunlight shoudl have asked Ronnie Biggs to sign the letter for them if they wanted a proper publicity stunt.

  125. 125

    Arseholes are not brown. They’re pink. Believe me, I know.

    Pink, however is the colour associated with the ‘Left of Centre’ political movement. Pinkos they are sometimes called.

    If we were to follow your logic then the entire Labour party would be arseholes.

    Surely not?

  126. 126
    StevieB says:

    The follow-up story of course is to locate an unfortunate small business owner who is up on charges for hiring an illegal immigrant, and due in court tomorrow/next week.

    If she has not resigned by then, the media could then have a field day at the Government’s expense: “Do as we say, not as we do…”

    Could be fun !

  127. 127
    The Mad Hatter says:

    …..shit is smelly
    Mandelson’s lower
    Than a snake’s belly

  128. 128
    bandersnatch says:

    Sings: ” Let the sunshine in, let the sunshine in… the Su-unlight in!”

  129. 129
    News Lion says:

    HAHAHA could not of happend to a better person

    http://newslion.blogspot.com/

  130. 130
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Most people check the wine cellar when the cleaner has done her job
    Poor Baroness Scotland,
    As her cleaner was a Tongan she also had to not only check the cleaners papers and then photocopy them but also check the fridge.
    Those Tongan fuckers would eat the entire contents of waitrose given a 5 minute supermarket sweep.

  131. 131
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    How tall is the bint?

  132. 132
    albacore says:

    Only £10,000?
    The possible fine is of an unlimited amount for one who knowingly employs an illegal immigrant.
    How on earth can the Attorney General plead ignorance of the very letter of the law?
    Ergo, if she does not absolutely comply with the law, she knowingly breaks it.

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    Tongan groove says:

    Still nowt on the BBC website then… there’s a surprise.

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    backwoodsman says:

    Nearly as much fun as hunting , with added nulab piquancy !

  135. 135
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Yes. Where *is* the MS of that book he was ‘researching’? He must’ve finished it by now!

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    jgm2 says:

    The law will require you ‘catching’ Baroness Scotland emplying the maid illegally. Since she has fired the maid then it is too late to ‘catch’ the Baroness employing the maid illegally.

    She can’t be required to testify against herself. The maid will say nothing – she’s not going to testify against herself either.

    No crime has occurred.

    Case closed.

    Just you watch.

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    English Liberation Front says:

    Human oil slick “Labour MP Keith Vaz, chairman of the home affairs select committee, said he believed Baroness Scotland would have “satisfied herself” that all the necessary checks were done.

    “I am sure she would have done everything that was proper and right,” he told BBC Radio 4’s World At One. However, he said there were “grey areas” in how the law was interpreted and a single database was needed to give employers access to information about an individual’s immigrant status, right to work and ability to claim benefits.”

    Ah, the old “grey areas” and database routine. Apart from the fact that Vaz the Implier cannot possible know whether the necessary checks were done and therefore his opinion is of no more consequence than the man on the Clapham omnibus, note how he slyly introduces yet more fascist database justification.

    These people are slime. New Labour – the Heir to Hitler.

  138. 138
    Stu says:

    You couldn’t give it away

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    Little Princess on Board says:

    Anything to do with Scotland is corrupt and fucking useless. It’s time to have a referendum on independence -for the English that is.

  140. 140
    Kelly's Japseye says:

    Snotty + Australian Hat = Grave Digger

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    B Scotland's Mum says:

    Oh fuck!

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    You small businessmen shouldn’t do yourselves down. Some of you can be just as successful as tall people. Just don’t employ short illegal immigrants.

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    The Mad Hatter says:

    Of course she doesn’t have to provide documentation to Galley. She just has to resign, whether or not she bothers with Galley, and she just has to be prosecuted. Otherwise as non excusat says, she has singlehandedly destroyed her own piece of legislation.

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    StevieB says:

    Keep to the topic at hand – or your ‘royal’ neck could be on the block.

  146. 146
    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Vinegar!

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    FOUR GALLONS? Wow! That costs more than the whole of Scotland.

    Not a great deal then.

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    bergen says:

    Quite right.We know that Brown has no sense at all but I’d have thought that she would have realised immediately that her position was untenable.She probably thinks she can front it out by playing the race card.

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    Anonymous says:

    You are correct. What the good Baroness gets up to is between her and the spotty herbert from the UK Borders Agency.

  150. 150
    Vic Mellons says:

    NuLab will follow Obama’s lead and say that anyone who’s attacking her is must be because they’re racist.

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    politically un-correct social worker(retired) says:

    I read somewhere that the learned lady got her law degree at Essex Institute of Higher Education in Chelmsford. ?hardly a top notch start to her career I think.
    In fact Anglia Ruskin University as it’s now called, currently ranks 112th out of 114 universities in the Sunday Times 2009 league

  152. 152
    Rexel 56 says:

    From the Attorney General’s website:

    “In July 2009 the Attorney General, Baroness Scotland QC, published a protocol which clearly sets out the relationship of the Attorney General with the prosecuting authorities”

    Well, there’s good timing!

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    A concerned retired limbo dancer says:

    When I came to Britain from over the sea on a heap of bananas no fucker gave me a token degree and a peerage.
    This woman is a disgrace

  154. 154
    The Mad Hatter says:

    Don’t you mean we?

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    Expecting this line to be taken soon says:

    Is it cos I’s black?

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    Vic Mellons says:

    That’s what I said at 150, spoon boy.

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    Mitch says:

    Not even the main story on the politics page now.

    Apparently, the biggest British political story is the American defence system. Er, yeah, I can see that.

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    we'll take her back says:

    Her mum must have had about 8 inches of jock inside her at one time though. A moniker like Scotland. So she can play for Scotland.

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    Sod 'em all says:

    The position is termed, “groom of the stool” – Mandy used to work as one before once again again again attaining high offirice.

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    albacore says:

    It was “ignorantia juris haud excusat” in my day.

  163. 163
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Is it just me (what fancies female lawyers) but doesn’t she look rather fetching in that wig and ruff?

  164. 164
    Steve Expat says:

    It is indeed there, just incredibly well hidden – whereas every other media outlet (bar the Grauniad, naturally) now has it at the top of their front page

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    summer_Breeze says:

    It’ll be even better, when the lot of them have been hoisted upon a very large scaffold!

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    Anonymous says:

    Judging from the picture in that Telegraph article once they’ve finished checking Caster Semenya I think they ought to give the good Baroness the once over.

  167. 167
    Stu says:

    You can’t be serious and she’s the attorney general

  168. 168
    Vic Mellons says:

    I like a bit of ruff.

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    On tax payers' silk cushions says:

    I’m sitting comfortably, thank you.

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    The Mad Hatter says:

    The very same Chris Galley – it’s called retaliation. He had a public interest defence – not sure how strong – while she has no defence at all. Perhaps we should have Ronnie Biggs in government – at least he was prosecuted, convicted and sentenced unlike Uddin, Moran and co.

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    IRB says:

    Before you pop her in your bank go and look at the picture currently gracing the Telegraph’s coverage of the story.

    She looks more butch than that South African runner.

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    A Pensioner says:

    Keeps her double chins and jug ears out of sight.

  173. 173
    Anonymous says:

    O k who let ex president Carter in here?

  174. 174
    Max Boyce says:

    I was there..

  175. 175
    Mitch says:

    And Brown lies story slowly falling off.

    Still, she can’t survive for long now. Even the best efforts of the BBC can’t avoid the inevitable. Ignore it then, you bell-ends.

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    Anonymous says:

    Melons usually come in pairs

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    Shocked of Sheen says:

    Labour MP Keith Vaz, chairman of the home affairs select committee, said he believed Baroness Scotland would have “satisfied herself”
    Did I really read that?

  178. 178
    Shocked of Sheen says:

    Woof woof!

  179. 179
    Steve Expat says:

    Don’t be so harsh on Mr Semanya

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    Trough Mixture says:

    Old H posted her phone number earlier. Give her a bell and see if she needs a hand with her briefs.

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Doesn’t she have Tongan servants to do that sort of stuff?

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    Not long till labour gone says:

    Still can’t believe that the reason the government is always saying immigration is good for the economy and failing to deport illegals is…so they can get their house cleaning done on the cheap!

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    The Sleeper says:

    From BBC News website…..

    “Gordon Brown’s spokesman said: “The prime minister is aware of the statement and has full confidence in Baroness Scotland. He thinks she’s doing a very good job as attorney general.”

    Well that’s alright then.

    I take it that the good job is ensuring all Labour MP’s,Ministers and Peers are completely exempt from English Law

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    KEITH VAZOLINE says:

    No. I’m just genuinely very collegiate. Don’t you just love my grandiloquence and my oleaginous personality ? It’s all genuine; there’s not a scintilla of self-importance anywhere in my very important bones.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    We shouldn’t rag poor Patty Scotland quite so much even if she is some kind of lawyer. This official bumf can be devilish difficult. Volodymyr, my farm manager, used to have a frightful time with the subsidy forms for set-aside and the Suckler Cow Premium Scheme. Then there was all that wretched paperwork for the gun room. Turned out that Volodymyr wasn’t Latvian, as he claimed, but Ukrainian! The poor fellow was arrested one day and had to go back to the tractor factory! At least the Border Agency woman was very understanding. I remember her every Christmas with one of my best turkeys.

    Pip-pip!

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Be fair, they do not set the law exams.

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    summer_Breeze says:

    Acting on intelligence, officers from the UK Border Agency swooped on three branches of Akbars Indian restaurants, in Middlesbrough, Leeds and Rotherham, on Thursday evening (27 August).”
    ( They even allowed the local news to record the raid at the M’bhro restaurant.)

    All in all, the Borders Agency, arrested 13 people. Akbars’ owner will be rubbing his hands in glee that he won’t have to pay the £130K fine now.

    The front page of the Border Agency website features the story about Akbars, pleased as punch with themselves. Shame eh!

    http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2009/september/akbarsraided13illegalworkers

  189. 189
    Gordon ( I AM a moron ) Brhoon says:

    IT’S IN LABOUR’S D-N-A…….

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    shelling-out says:

    Patricia Janet Scotland, Baroness Scotland of Asthal, PC, QC is a barrister and the current Attorney General for England and Wales and Northern Ireland.

    Some kind of lawyer? She’s at the top of the pile.

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    Call me Infidel says:

    Every day UKBA charge truck drivers with civil penalties for having illegal immigrants in the back of their trucks. The “I didn’t know they were there guv” excuse doesn’t work for them and it shouldn’t work for Scotchland.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    I thought the Dominicans were monks?

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    The Dirty Rat says:

    Didn’t Idi Amin, that well known entertainer proclaim himself king of Scotland? Are they related?

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    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Cripes! She looks like one of the Tongan front row.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    If she were at the top of the pile she would be earning a couple of mill a year doing corporate litigation.

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    Anonymous says:

    Why do you keep going on about “her SPAD” when she doesn’t have one?

  197. 197
    Andy Carpark says:

    Has Jimmy Carter played the race card yet?

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    IRB says:

    It was published years back. It was called A Different Drum.

    It wasn’t so muchg a book as a twelve page 4th form essay on why kiddie diddling was bad and people who do it should be sent to the naughty step. It was, as you can proably imagine, pretty dreadful.

    You would have thought with his money he’d have paid a decent ghost writer to do something he could take round the chat shpw circuit. Maybe even a celebrity book signing tour of Waterstones or something.

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    albacore says:

    Well, if Gordon’s former best friend, Mr Omaha, can get away with refusing to publish his full birth certificate, what transpires between the Attorney General and Spotty at the Border Agency is small potatoes and nobody’s business but theirs.
    We’d all just better move along; nothing to see here in the 51st State (or whatever Region(s) we are in the European Utopia – take your pick).

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    StevieB says:

    She has to resign today.

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    Arthur says:

    THE EVOLVING LEGAL REGIME ON UNAUTHORIZED WORK BY MIGRANTS IN BRITAIN.

    Section 21 of the 2006 Act has also introduced a new offense of knowingly employing a person without authorization. Formally, the element of knowledge distinguishes the new offense from that in section 8 of the 1996 Act. As we have seen, however, under section 8, employer knowledge vitiated the defense that they had checked and copied documents evidencing an entitlement to work. The more significant change with the new offense is therefore the possibility of imposing a prison sentence, which possibility is additional to the same fines as before.

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    AnonymousSource says:

    Here’s a possble replacement for Baroness Scotland when she resigns

    Her pedigree is “impeccable”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherie_Blair

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    Extremely Upset Pre-Pubescent Girl says:

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl. Stop saying all these orrible fings bout Jordan. She’s our hero. Just leave her alone. She’s lovely. All the girls wish we was her.

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    IRB says:

    I lied. It was, “A Different Bomb” and it was six pages long. Read it here.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1027061petetownshend1.html

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    Anonymous says:

    No, no. You are fined for employing illegals. There is a defence available which involves the production of documents, but the failure to produce them is not the offence.

  206. 206

    […] Guido Fawkes has a number of posts on the topic, and is pressing hard […]

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    Gordon Brown says:

    what an ugly cυnt. who’d employ that?

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    Papasmurf says:

    Borders Agency “We will not provide a running commentary.”

    So that’s clear then, going take a number of months and buried when some other bad news day is upon McSnot.

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    C. Smallpiece says:

    Youpron awaits the evidence.

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    AnonymousSource says:

    Steve Lamb, Regional Operations Director of the UK Border Agency in North East, Yorkshire and the Humber, said:

    ‘We will not tolerate illegal working which threatens to damage our communities, undercuts the minimum wage and by-passes health and safety laws. The UK Border Agency acts on intelligence to target those businesses that ignore the rules and remove those with no right to be in the UK.

    ‘We work with employers so they understand the rules, but they have a responsibility to carry out the checks before they employ migrant workers. If they don’t, they could end up potentially having to pay fines of up to £10,000 per illegal worker. As long as there are illegal jobs, the UK will be an attractive place for illegal immigrants. That’s why we have to put a stop to employers who don’t play by the rules.’

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    Peter Hitchens says:

    I rarely visit this blog having in the past suffered abuse from some of your more childish posters (you know who you are)
    however ,this vile campaign against a very decent woman makes me foam at the mouth with rage.
    This lady ( In every sense of the word) has done no more than give gainful employment to a woman from a bankrupt nation governed by a fat imbecile.
    Peter Hitchens

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    (optional) says:

    She’ll get away with it. They all do.

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    tat says:

    said the KKK affiliate.

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    Trough Mixture says:

    Went straight in to the penultimate slot in the list on the upper right. With a bullet.

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    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Four Gallons! That’s how much oil is left in Scotland’s oil fields!

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    NuAttackDog says:

    just you I’m afraid – to the rest of us she looks like the bastard offspring of Tina Turner and Chewbacca the Wookie

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    bustop says:

    Just read about the thieving scum owing tens of thousands for food and drink in House of Commons, more than 70 MPs have owed more than £500 each for more than six months. It never ends!

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    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Hunt + one eyed twat = Gordon Brown

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    I hate New Labour says:

    Can’t argue with that.

    I detest the socialist scum with every fibre of my being.

    The sooner they are banished to the dustbin of history the better.

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    Obama is a twat says:

    Has anyone mentioned racism yet? If not can I do it please? I think you’re all having a go at her because she is black.

    OK bollocks over. What documentation did she look at exactly? If she didn’t look at it very carefully I’d never want her as a barrister defending me in a case. Fucking useless.

    Every time I apply for a job I have to produce evidence of my right to live here (I was fucking born here and spent 12 years serving my Country in the forces) yet any fucking Tom Dick or Abdul can turn up here get a fucking NI number at get a job either as a Government Chauffeur, Government cleaner, Government security guard or dogsbody to some over promoted female Lord..

    Fucking Labour, fucking Hunts, piss off back to fucking Scotland you Hunts and take one eye with you.

    Yer Baroness fucking Scotland. I’m fucking fed up of fucking Scotland. Piss off you bastards.

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    AnonymousSource says:

    Whenever I answer the phone to unwanted callers I’m always my assistant – works ALL the time

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    Jimmy says:

    Yes, but Obama hasn’t had a letter from Chris Galley

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    English Viking says:

    Rodney Trotter’s O level is worth more than her degree.

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    Jolyon Wagg says:

    That’s the funniest thing I’ve read today.

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    Fees Office Clerk says:

    She was called to the bar at the Middle Temple in 1977…to be a waitress!

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    The King of Tonga says:

    Fuck off Hitchens
    If I ever see you down the pub I will kick your fucking head in you c unt

  229. 229
    Anonymous says:

    but she won’t.

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    Jimmy says:

    “Has anyone mentioned racism yet?”

    Most of the tories so far yes.

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    Well said #82. Wasn’t Scotland the idiot who wanted the Manchester school kids prosecuted for supposedly planning to blow up their school (she never bothered to find out if the kids actually had any explosives or knew how to use them).

    The BBC is playing down the story, pulling in Keith Vas (!!!) to say employing immigrants is a “grey area”!

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    Australian says:

    Widow, anon. Old Idi’s been dead for a while now. Might have been something in his diet that didn’t agree with him.

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    AnonymousSource says:

    “…………….What documentation did she look at exactly? ”

    Presumably a passport and/or visa suitably annotated with right to work;NI number.

    According to other reports I’ve seen – the woman had actually been issued witha NI number when she entered the country in 2003 as a student.She apparently was refused right to stay at the end of her course and was given 6 months to leave but didn’t and also retained the issued NI number. Is it too much to ask that the DWP would have marked the NI number as withdrawn etc. Stupid question really I know but it bears asking!! and I won’t even ask why she wasn’t located after her 6 months student visa extension had expired

  234. 234
    Roger Daley says:

    8″ = 4 x 2″

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    Rock Solid says:

    I employed a cannibal once, as a nanny.

    I asked her how the children were and she said, ‘Delicious.’

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    Steve Expat says:

    O/T, Jana Bennett ordered to stand down as director of BBC Worldwide over conflict of interest – her husband is a director of a company paid 3/4 of a million by them last year. She remains as director of vision fon the main BBC board, whatever the fuck that means

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/6155642/Moast-pwoerful-woman-at-BBC-forced-to-stand-down-from-commercial-arm-to-avoid-conflict-of-interest.html

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    Prince Phillip says:

    You’ve got it too aqnd if you get idependence it will be enshrined in what was scottish law quicker than white flight.

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    Fruit de loop Napoleon beeble says:

    How right you are Major P – I would willingly give Labour 100% of my income in tax and send all my children to fight in Afghanistan for this wonderful government.

    In fact Gordon and Mandy, my arse is yours as well – it feels like you’ve been making free use of it since 1997 anyway.

    5 more years!

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    Bri says:

    Not sexist until Mrs Scotland takes a gender test.

    I’ve got doubts.

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    L. Izzard says:

    I know who is no 2.

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    nell says:

    Queen of Scotland? The last Queen, Mary of Scots had her head chopped off.

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    Australian says:

    Just think, if only she had picked up the ‘phone to Vazoline or Mandlescum, she could have had a passport arranged, pronto, for her servant/skivvy/factotum (whatever she called the poor Tongan woman) and avoided this little problem.

    Vazo’ and ‘Scum are the “outposts” of the Passport Office for “special capplicants”, are they not?

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    Tony43east says:

    No mention of this on the front page of the BBC Website this morning until the vote of confidence from No 10 statement and the “I’m sure everything is in order” titbit from Vazman

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    Article 38 says:

    OT, but this is interesting…

    Dizzy has found a link to Purnell-Harman-Miliband leadership plot:

    http://dizzythinks.net/2009/09/what-was-harmans-role-in-junes-failed.html

  245. 245
    L. Izzard says:

    Heir Hitler

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    Anonymous says:

    Strange, the Torygraph story http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6202306/Immigration-officials-to-investigate-Attorney-General-Baroness-Scotland-over-housekeeper.html says Scotland was paying NI in respect of the illegal. Was this a full-time gig? To clean one house? Expenses, much?

  247. 247
    John Lewis Cushions says:

    Vaz
    UGH
    Oily venomous snake

    Has he collected from Hoon yet for his U-turn on the 42 days plan?
    Hoon said the oilslick would be ‘appropriately rewarded’
    Has he not been elevated yet? (If not, is that because no-one could lift his lardy frame?)

  248. 248
    L. Izzard says:

    Oh well, nil carborundum grindus bastardi

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if documents appeared in the near future that cleared Baroness Scotland.

    After all, it is the Labour Party!

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    Steve Expat says:

    Good spot – there was obviously something planned which Milliband fucked up by standing behind Broon the Hoon rather than resigning

  251. 251
    L. Izzard says:

    Beware of cheeks imparting whiffs

  252. 252
    On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

    8) Jack Straw – pulled over by the police for doing 103mph while Home Secretary responsible for sticking speed cameras everywhere. Defence: “late for a Labour Party meeting”. Result: “insufficient evidence”, despite the police car video that would be used to give you or I an £800 fine and a 6 week ban.

    Back in 2000: t’was always so.

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    Trough Mixture says:

    It’s usually about 1800hrs when they chuck the towel in – certainly was with Hughes and the window dressing. Just in time for Jon Snow if she does.

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    Bardirect says:

    It should be remembered that the Attorney General is the senior law officer and chief prosecuter. The CPS and DPP are subservient to the AG who has the right to intervene in any prosecution – even a private prosecution – to stop it.

    That is why she must resign. She cannot be both prosecutor and potential Defendant, or a Defendant who might intervene to stop any prosecution.

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    Bardirect says:

    Prosecutor

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    fucdifino says:

    She had better not go anywhere near Tonga

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    Bardirect says:

    The offence under Section 8 (1) of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996 does not allow a defence once the fact of employing a subject to immigration control who either has not been granted leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom or is subject to a condition precluding him from taking up the employment UNLESS the Defendant can prove the documentary evidence exception which required the document to be within certain limited categories which have to be copied and retained.

    The legislation is of course Conservative legislation – which Labour were perfectly happy with.

    What Labour did was change the categories of documents retwice, in 2004 and 2008, required and increased the penalties.

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    Anonymous says:

    That’s the San Franciscans.

  259. 259
    L. Izzard says:

    Grooming the stool is the legal term describing the apprenticeship of Baronless not at all Scotland for its position of obsequious association with Labour.

  260. 260
    Steve Expat says:

    T minus 15 minutes and counting…

  261. 261
    Prince Phillip says:

    Baroness onga bonga carries less gravitas

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    jgm2 says:

    Oh come now tat. I think we can safely say that the ‘race’ card will be played during this.

    Plus the ‘misogynist’ card.

    Are you going to bet against it?

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    Bardirect says:

    From Hansard 11 Feb 2004 Columns1104/5

    “Baroness Scotland of Asthal: My Lords, as I said, we shall shortly be revising the secondary legislation supporting Section 8 of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996. As your Lordships know, that legislation deals with employers and the prevention of illegal working. It will strengthen the kinds of documentation that employers are required to check to comply with Section 8. This will make it easier for the Immigration Service to identify and prosecute non-compliant employers.”

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    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    No, that’s why she’s not going to resign: staying in the job means she has a cast-iron way of making sure she doesn’t get prosecuted.

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    Len Brennan says:

    She’s no vision herself.

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    Australian says:

    No, DoM2, not even in your case 3 could she be innocent. Even if she saw clever forgeries, she is still guilty of an offence under the relevant law. The offence arises in *not taking and retaining copies* of the docments in question. Any employer can confirm this, as can any professional who has to do the same (in connection with anti money laundering laws) regarding identification of new clients.

    Under the current law, any employer who “takes a chance” by not retaining copies of the necessary documents is buying themselves one heap of trouble. This is of course entirely consistent with the Nu-fascist methods of governing/controlling us and should not therefore be alien to the A-G.

    It doesn’t matter how many times she bleats about having seen documents that she thought were kosher, without having taken copies, she is guilty under the law she is responsible for administering. Whether that law is “fair” or “sensible” is also not relevant.

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    On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

    You are a fake – I counted three words beginning with ‘h’ and two ending in ‘ng’

  268. 268
    Papasmurf says:

    Education is a wonderful thing… being able to tease out the evidence and knowing where to find it.

    Game set and match to the bloggers.

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    Australian says:

    Isn’t the Oily One now guilty of attempting to subvert/influence an ongoing enquiry?

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    John Bull says:

    Can I have an English passport as my British one has no value now.

  271. 271
    John Bull says:

    She’s his little piccaninny

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    Stronghold Barricades says:

    A couple of things I now don’t understand:

    The Daily Mail broke this story, why didn’t they report the baroness to the authorities?

    Why weren’t the authorities aware of the allegations in the Daily mail before this letter? Because if it is a civil matter it isn’t like having to tell the police a crime has been committed is it?

  273. 273
    L. Izzard says:

    That’s not Tonga, its Chorlton -cum-Hardy

  274. 274
    Anonymous says:

    Headlines on BBC News at Six, not a mention of the fragrant Baroness!! Just phoned to complain why this wasn’t leading the news!

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    Bardirect says:

    It’s not just civil, under Section 8(1) of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1996 its a criminal offence.

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    Anonymous says:

    All ethnic equality liebourers stick together – its part of the deal. So yes, in a clannish way.

  277. 277
    L. Izzard says:

    Mr Semen Ya – sounds like a successful German ejaculation.

  278. 278
    Australian says:

    Anon: I had understood that your suggested replacement is hoping to be parachuted into the new job as head of the judiciary at the new Supreme Court (which itself was dreamed up on the back of a napkin one evening by our political lords and masters).

  279. 279
    Australian says:

    On the railways, a “SPAD” is a “Signal Passed at Danger” – worst offence a driver can commit. Generally results in a rapid dismissal from the job.

    How appropriate!

  280. 280
    Australian says:

    Are you looking in the mirror again, Gordon?

  281. 281
    Trough Mixture says:

    18:11.

    Bugger!

  282. 282
    Australian says:

    It doesn’t matter what she claims to have looked at. If she didn’t keep copies she is toast.

  283. 283
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    The next question is who will replace her. Personally I’d bring back Blears, the stunted little moron. She was a local government lawyers, wasn’t she, so she’ll know all about it.

  284. 284
    Mixed bag says:

    Takes a while for the ink to dry.

  285. 285
    genghiz the kahn says:

    How on earth can she get out of this?

    Temporary mental incapacity, blame pressure of work, PMT Prime Mentalist Tantrums.

    Line up a few disgruntled employers who have made the same mistake, paid the fines and ask them if they feel that she is lucky in some way.

  286. 286
    pete-s says:

    The special rule CPS (Can’t Prosecute Socialists) will be invoked as usual.

  287. 287
    Anonymous says:

    Vaz work on the basis that if you grease him, he’ll grease you back (an everyone else). Even most MPs loathe him.

  288. 288
    It could have been worse says:

    I am just glad that Baroness Scotland chose the law as a career rather than working Boeing

  289. 289
    Cassandra King says:

    All the petty new laws enacted by newlabour, all the massive fines and restrictive legislation, all the choking red tape and the thousands of jobsworth new stasi enforcers employed by the state, a new East German police state where any old thug can smash down your door as long as the thug is state approved.
    All of this was ONLY meant for the little people, only the little people should obey the law, the new elite are above the law, they are somehow better than the common ordinary person.
    We now enjoy a two tier legal system like the old days where feudal barons lorded it over the peasants and the peasants had to lick it up or else!
    Meet the newlabour boss, same as the old boss!

    She will get off Scot free of course, she is one of the untouchable elite who have the right connections, not for the likes of her is English common law, they are above that, the new elite live by their own law and its called?

    Fuck you, you smelly peasants should fuck off back to your hovels, dont you know who I am? I have connections! I am friends with the chief constable and ill have your job, is it cos I am black?

    The new socialist twin track one law for them and another for us, how long before they get their own ‘Zil lanes’?

  290. 290
    Anonymous says:

    You really believe any thing is going to happen, thats a fuckin good laugh!

    Remember Uddin? still waiting. Remember,MP’s expenses? Still waiting!

    These politicians are so corrupt its all institutionalised corruption as history will show, and as centuries ago all politicians were and are corrupt!

    So don’t hold your breath!

  291. 291

    Indeed.
    I thank my learned colleague for bring this to the court’s attention.
    {Court of public opinion- another useful standby defence if we need it}

    May I also remind the prosecution of the case of the shredded expense receipts. Blair vs Socialism 2009. And also Blair vs Metropolitan Police 2006 – the cash for peerages affair.
    No paper trail = no case to answer.

    I’m sure there are many more if any member of/at the bar can remember them.

  292. 292
    Prezza says:

    I’d give ‘er one.

  293. 293
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Tally-ho Mr Plod!

  294. 294
    Prezza says:

    As I said at the Brighton Conference, Gordon, I’d give ‘er one.

  295. 295
    Steve Expat says:

    18:25 :-(

    Just listened to the whole of BBC R4 news at 6 – not a single mention of this story

  296. 296
    Cassandra King says:

    After a long (non)investigation where (no)evidence is thoroughly looked at, the CPS will decide(after a phonecall from No10)that there is no evidence(all shredded) and no case to answer.

  297. 297
    This is not an aspirational handle says:

    The Baroness can easily take the hit of a fine of £10,000, but her particular difficulty is that afterwards she could no longer participate in the Privy Council. Notwithstanding the tripe about her being Dame of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order, Her Majesty would be within reason not to be amused by the continued presence there of a law-breaker who happens to be the government’s face of the law. The ignominy of being ordered to boot herself off would be far worse for her, and for him who appointed her — the notorious snot-gobbler. (Presumably Her Majesty remains in ignorance about that unamusing peccadillo of her first minister).

  298. 298
    Dack Blog says:

    The accused is denying it.

  299. 299
    Steve Expat says:

    whoops – it was mentioned at the end, Broon is giving his full support – fingers crossed she’ll be gone by bedtime!

  300. 300
    Jimmy says:

    It’s a civil penalty (if that). A parking ticket of sorts. Get a grip.

  301. 301
    Dack Blog says:

    Nor ITN headlines. Is Snow our only hope?

  302. 302
    Niqabi Hoor says:

    Tend to think she looks like an ignorant Dominatrix.

  303. 303
    Blair's Paid Ego Parrot says:

    I complained to the BBC a while ago about them reporting lawbreaking by Labourites as ‘rule’ braking. In their reply they said they meant ‘law rules’. Very strange. Never underestimate the power of BBC editing. If the BBC don’t report it,it didn’t happen.

  304. 304
    Trough Mixture says:

    Or the Inuit.

  305. 305
    Dr Carnivore says:

    In the photo published by the Telegraph, Baroness ‘Scotty’ Scotland seems to have more than a passing resemblance to Mr Choo who owns our local Chinese takeaway, in a bad wig.

  306. 306
    Call me Infidel says:

    National Insurance numbers are meaningless. There are millions of bogus NI numbers out there and there are millions more genuine numbers than there are actual workers. I suspect they are glad for any revenue and that’s why they don’t withdraw the numbers.

    As for finding her once her visa had expired. Needles and haystacks springs to mind. Nevertheless her passport would have to have a visa showing she was entitled to work. So either the cleaner has forged docs or Scotchland is a liar.

    Either way Scotchland has to pay a civil penalty. If she doesn’t then there are thousands of lorry drivers who will launch appeals against civil penalties they have been forced to pay when caught with illegals in their trucks.

  307. 307
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Can’t Prosecute Scumbags.

  308. 308
    Bardirect says:

    But would anyone else want to give her one two?

  309. 309
    Bardirect says:

    if it was a temporary number or with certain suffix letters they are specifically listed as not within the scope of the documenation requirements and never had been.

  310. 310
    Anon says:

    She was probably a plain Jane before she became a Jana.

  311. 311

    > how long before they get their own ‘Zil lanes’?

    The Olympics in 2012. Lanes are to be closed for Dignitaries.

  312. 312
    Laney says:

    Why has that black man breasts???

  313. 313

    It’s not just civil, under Section 8(1) of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1996 its a criminal offence.

  314. 314
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m showing courage by dithering on this. Tory cuts. No more boom and bust.

    It is the right thing to do for hard working families. Started in America.

    I’m going to hide now… will triumphantly return, via youtube, when all this has blown over. Mandy promised.

  315. 315
    Watt Tyler says:

    GUIDO: Top marks for the coverage of this issue today. It’s been replicated over on the Enemies of the People website with appropriate reference to this site.

    Thanks.

  316. 316
    Bardirect says:

    C4News don’t appear to be covering it – is it already subjudice?

  317. 317
    Anonymous says:

    They are totally in the labour party pocket. It’s going to be tough to view it in the more intense reporting surrounding the election – assuming The Gorgon doesn’t cancel it because of the credit crunch which started in america etc.

    The BBC needs privatising. Anyone who wants to watch Labour propaganda – yes without adverts – would then be free to do so out of thie own pocket.

  318. 318

    […] is an update to this article***. Thanks again to Guido Fawkes for his splendid investigative […]

  319. 319
    Cassandra King says:

    Vermin like her could no more make a proper living and create wealth than Brown could wake up one morning and start telling the truth, thats why they are enacting laws to force private industry to employ retarded imbeciles based on their sex/skin colour/party connections/religion.

  320. 320
    Obama is a twat says:

    But an NI number is not enough. If you apply for a job even born here you still have to show other evidence like British Passport or Birth Certificate.

  321. 321
    Obama is a twat says:

    Nope, the beeboids gave it 10 seconds on the 6PM news (where the fuck is Toenails by the way?) ITV didn’t run it at all, they were too busy showing us the funerals of the dead soldiers caused by one eye’s cutting of the defence budget.

    If it had been a Tory the beeboids would have been masturbating over it live on News 24.

  322. 322
    Trough Mixture says:

    Peter. Forgive my lack of eloquence – I am an humble basher of tin and aware that I do not write with style or panache.

    It seems to me that any decency about the woman was more than cancelled out the moment she took a seat at the worst PM in history’s cabinet table.

    This underlined by her failure to protect Aspergers sufferer Gary McKinnon.

    Your last sentence is bollocks of the sweatiest kind. In providing this employment she appears to have breached the requirements of law which she herself manipulated into statute. Whether she did so in a ladylike fashion or not has no bearing on the matter in hand.

    If you wish to leap to a defence, could I suggest that you do so on behalf of your country and it’s fast disappearing democracy.

    Troughy.

  323. 323
    Cassandra King says:

    Ooooh so thats alright then eh? No harm no foul, lessons learned lets move on eh?

    Yeah it was only an honest mistake that anyone could make. The lower orders just dont realise that the high flying elite cannot be expected to check everthing can they?
    Never underestimate the two faced crookedness of the newlabour elite.

  324. 324
    Anonymous says:

    stupid twats

    and Lynndie England of Abu Ghraib torture fame was English

  325. 325
    Bardirect says:

    C4News just gave it 10 seconds too.

  326. 326
    Great Granddad says:

    Whether she stands down is of little consequence. If she does not get prosecuted and get fined the full ten thousand pounds, then, ipso facto, the relevant law has been annulled, since any future prosecution would be impossible. If the person who made the law is immune, then we all are.

    Anarchy is not something that we should fear might manifest itself in the future. The moment that a decision is made not to prosecute in this case, anarchy has arrived. This is not a slippery slope, but a precipice. I desperately hope to see a very early prosecution.

  327. 327

    LOL at the ‘keep out of jail’ handshake.

    Do we surmise that New Labour are all Slavemasons?

  328. 328
    Horatio Bottomley says:

    Looks like “Wonga for Tonga”

  329. 329
    Jimmy says:

    Who said that? If she doesn’t have the document, she has to pay. Not exactly watergate is it.

  330. 330
    UK Overpopulated for the available resources says:

    From Wiki:

    “Scotland was born in Dominica to Antiguan and Dominican parents, but her family moved to Walthamstow”

    Just like that! so how does that work then, UK Border Agency is just a continuation of the same old crap under a new name!

  331. 331
    Jimmy says:

    Fair play, it does seem to be an offence, albeit a summary one.

  332. 332
    Good Lord! says:

    Nice photograph, why is she in facncy dress?

  333. 333
    Jimmy says:

    Government policy is to import black people to annoy people like you.

  334. 334
    The Political Class says:

    Oh this is such a trifling matter, The Law is for the Little people and the sooner you understand that the better. Stuff and nonsense.

  335. 335
    The Political Class says:

    This isnt just any old Law Breaking, this is Political Class Law Breaking and thats different in fact it doesnt count.

  336. 336
    The Political Class says:

    “Meet the newlabour boss, same as the old boss!”

    No the new boss is far far worse, at least the old boss in some cases got punished ie Archer, Aitken. This lot get way “scot” Free ( no pun intended) This is the most shamefull and disgracefull political class in living memory.

  337. 337
    UK Overpopulated for the available resources says:

    It would not annoy me at all if they (immigrants, not just black people) became useful, law abiding citizens which does not seem to have happened in this particular example!

  338. 338
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/09/eu_if_dc_were_t.html

    Toenails is handily ensconced on some Euro jolly..

    Convenient…

  339. 339
    She will resign says:

    She will resign but it will drag out as they all do nowdays, she should be prosecuted but she wont as others have done far worse and escaped prosecution. It is a despicable state of affairs but sadly that is the reality. We are now ruled by a political class who are to all intents and purposes above the Law. A law which is practised by complient placemen with no backbone and with eyes on their next promotion under the patronage of this corrupt stinking body politic.

  340. 340
    Dr Watson says:

    Jimmy = Dolly

  341. 341
    Jimmy says:

    Scratch that. Section 8 is repealed. I was right the first time.

    How could I ever have doubted me?

  342. 342
    Jimmy says:

    Are we all not, in a very real sense, Dolly?

  343. 343
    Cyco Billy says:

    Ho what Sir Wills. Did you catch her riding your best turkey around the farmyard while dressed as the Xmas fairy? Do tell more — it must have been worth a good quid pro quo.

  344. 344
    Agent 99 says:

    My daughter born and bred here has just got a saturday job. They were absolutly adamant she could not so much as lift a finger until she had presented her passport and they had inspected it and taken the details. My daughter tells me it was also photocopied and some other checks were done but she is not sure what they were precisely. She also had to take it in the day before she started work not actually on the day.

    Funny how the little people know the rules yet the one who invented it and sits on top of the festering pile of shit does not.

    Hang the Labour bitch high!

  345. 345
    Donald Fagen says:

    That’s Thelonious, my old friend!

  346. 346
    Agent 99 says:

    No whoops about it Steve

    If it had been a Tory it would have been on at the front for 20 mins at least and then a complete prog on Newsnight.

  347. 347
    Where is Whodini? says:

    Pull the udder one.

  348. 348
    Agent 99 says:

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anyone one but the demented ginger chipmunk.

    (Has she repaired her wheels yet by the way?)

  349. 349
    Precision Grinder says:

    Mandy likes him, he knows that Vazoline’s arse is naturally lubricated, it has the aroma of engineer’s ‘Three-in-One’ Oil!!

  350. 350
    Sunny Jim says:

    Don’t let the door hit yer arse on yer way out, ya trolling prat

  351. 351
    Happy Tyke says:

    I’m still laughing’

  352. 352
    Agent 99 says:

    somehow I just have a feeling that had it been a Tory minister and top of the pile your comments would be slightly different and your post 5 times longer.

  353. 353
    shelling-out says:

    Sir William – she doesn’t have to rough it earning a couple of mill a year doing corporate litigation.

    She’s probably earning a lot more than that now.

  354. 354
    shelling-out says:

    She’ll still get her bloody pension, I’ll wager.

  355. 355
    Irn Bru Snorter says:

    Just heard that her spokespeople have issued a statement that she made “an inadvertant mistake”.

    Well…why not??

    She was behaving completely honestly and “did nothing wrong”….

    Like the “expenses” MPs.

    A side issue here…

    Why is a black woman with a Southern English accent called “Baroness Scotland”?

  356. 356
    Anonymous says:

    Well it fucking works!

  357. 357
    albacore says:

    On 9 April 2009, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales to the 16th Commonwealth Law Conference:
    “Thomas Fuller observed, “Be ye never so high the
    law is above you”. Well the law is above any individual judge too. No
    individual judge is Lex either. The absence of any dispensing power was, and
    remains, fundamental to the rule of law. Judges cannot dispense with it.
    Parliament itself cannot dispense with it. None of our democratic institutions
    may do so. They are, of course, entitled to change it.”
    Was anybody listening?

  358. 358
    Anonymous says:

    ignorantia juris, not jurus. juris is a genitive; jurus is not even real latin.

  359. 359
    Patriotic says:

    Just so I,m clear in my mind about Mrs Scotland or whatever she calls herself.
    1) Is she the employer.
    2)Does she understand the particular act (statutory instrument).
    3)this act requires that an employer satisfy themselves as to the bone fide identity and status of the person they are employing.
    4)What must you do to establish the status of whom you are employing?
    5)Should you for example check with passport details,immigration authorities,visa status etc:.
    As a senior law officer I would expect that this would ABC stuff to such a person,if not what the hell is she doing in the job.
    Of course I may be completely wrong in what I have said so I am relying on you legal eagles out there to correct me.

  360. 360
    Jim Beam says:

    Is that the one that is not known to white heterosexual Englishmen? Yes of course it is.That is why I am getting out of this country in the next three years and taking self and others with me because I have to face the consequences of my actions whereas others can always play the race gender Islam cards. Boo- Hoo I’m oppressed !!!

  361. 361

    Her civil service press officer seems to think that Dorothy is her SpAd.

  362. 362

    Worse than that, she called Guido.

  363. 363
    terence patrick hewett says:

    It’s the same the whole world over,
    it’s the poor wot gets the blame,
    it’s the rich wot gets the pleasure,
    ain’t it all a bleedin’ shame.

    someone else can fill in the naughty bits.

  364. 364
    Foggy Albion says:

    “…employment to a woman from a bankrupt nation governed by a fat imbecile”.

    Are you saying her maid was actually British?

  365. 365
    Jonah Watch says:

    That is the thing about labour politicians they are just too thick a bit stupid:
    this one
    Jack boots Smith
    Haiin
    Laamy
    Jobsworth
    Ginger mnger
    prezza

    it is easy for the cleverer ones e.g. blier, broon, badger, the dark prince, millix2, blinky etc to boss them about…

  366. 366
    I wuv George Bush and the Neo-cons says:

    Of course not. Draper smeared people by false accusations

    Dr Watson must have cast iron proof you are Dolly

    So must all the other spods who throw accusations of anyone they disagree with being Dolly. It’s not a smear thrown about by fuckwits oblivious to irony.
    s’obvious innit ?

  367. 367
    Ilicipolero says:

    Maybe the err, good lady? Nah was “satisfying herself” instead of putting her time to better use making the appropriate checks

  368. 368
    Baronness Houdini says:

    SHHHHHHHHH !!!

  369. 369
    Jim Beam says:

    To Cassandra King.Once again you speak such wisdom and common sense. Your point about employing people not based on ability but on gender /race etc completely sums up what is wrong with the fascist scum of ZanuLiebour. You are a true lady of our nation. Will you marry me?

  370. 370
    Fred Goodwin's Duck Palace says:

    It’s about time a Panorama or Dispatches producer realised that a great many of our MP’s and prominent public figures could be caught breaking the Law here while the public get prosecuted.

  371. 371
    James says:

    Jeez – your boy is hardly playing a blinder on Newsnight. You should have gone on yourself…

  372. 372
    Not long till labour gone says:

    Very disappointed on how Chris Galley came across on Newsnight tonight.

    He should get someone else to represent the organisation who is a better speaking and can get some better points across.

    I fully support what he is trying to do but he needs another face in interviews to create more impact.

  373. 373
    Anonymous says:

    I hear that Baroness Scotland really fancies herself which is a good job because nobody else would.

    I’ve seen better looking hippos.

  374. 374
    All ZuNuLiebor Sleaze floats to the top says:

    Jimmy/dolly – well a least a tad more honest than your man Vazeline® the slipperiest substance on the planet!

  375. 375
    Anonymous says:

    It’s actually a pretentious Anglia Polytechnic, nee Essex Institute or somesuch. anyways, – ideas way above itself!

  376. 376
    Anonymous says:

    I am beginning to think the area inside the M25 is virtually a different country these days. Didn’t Gordon chide her “British jobs for the British?”

    If I had a warrant card I nick her…………….

  377. 377
    John Lyon CB - There Follows A list Of My Achievements For This Year: says:

    .

  378. 378
    Jimmy says:

    Guido sent the gimp? Oh that’s too funny. I hope at least you put him in a suit that fits this time.

  379. 379
    Anonymous says:

    How the fuck does a committed lefty becomes a fucking Baroness for fuck sake. Hasn’t she heard of Class War! Fucking fuck me. Fucking Mao must be turning in his fucking grave.

    Fuckers

  380. 380
    Boudicca says:

    Has anyone seen her NI number, passport, visa and entitlement to be in this country?

    Just asking, like.

  381. 381
    Jimmy says:

    You think someone would be so gauche as to mention race? Here of all places at the GF anti-racist collective? The very idea!

  382. 382
    Cassandra King says:

    Already spoken for I am afraid, thanks for the vote of confidence though, you have made me a very happy bunny although you should know I am ugly, in fact I was so ugly as a child that my mum had to tie a pork chop around my neck so the dog would play with me, so ugly that when I was delivered into the world the midwife slapped my mother not me!

    If the ball and chain should accidentally fall under a bus while coming home from the pub for some unknown reason or is found floating in the Thames with a frying pan sticking in his back I will let you know(after the insurance claim of course)!

  383. 383
    Spider says:

    Where has this story gone on the BBC? is doesn’t even get more than a tiny link on the politics page ffs!

    And sod whether she has copies of the documents. Did this fecking hoon report the illegal immigrant to the authorities for deportation or did she collude in helping her stay here illegally by keeping quiet?

    Prosecute now

  384. 384
    Cynic says:

    Has her home been turned over yet searching for evidence? If not, why not?

    And why is one of the Law Officers (for heaven’s sake) still in office while this is going on? As a minimum she should voluntarily step aside for a few weeks to allow the investigation to be completed.

    And where’s Gordon? Should he not be deciding on something that’s critical to the integrity of the prosecution system?

  385. 385
    Anonymous says:

    Hip Hip *applause*

  386. 386
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    You’re completely right, of course, that if she didn’t take copies then she’s guilty no matter what. As a small business owner myself, I’m only too well aware of that requirement. One of the reasons why this episode makes me so incredibly angry is that I find it a completely unnecessary and intrusive waste of my time that the law expects me to act as an unpaid border guard, when the people who make the laws consider themselves exempt.

    However, note the second sentence of my second paragraph. She probably didn’t keep copies, but we don’t know for a fact that she didn’t.

  387. 387
    Brown Out Now says:

    On R4 Toady it was never mentioned until grudgingly atfer 8:10 and after a main piece on ‘Cuts’ they switched to ‘Toenails’ for a 10 sec comment on the matter!
    Well that’s alright then!
    The BBC have to go, they are not impartial!

  388. 388
    REEVO says:

    Lawmakers are not above the laws they make.

    The mistake is lawmakers, and others thinking they are.

    Its not pleasant finding you have inadvertently broken a law, but then there are so many laws it is inevitable.

    Lawmakers themselves should be the first to respect the Law, judicial ignorance of the law can be no defense

    Or be in contempt.

  389. 389
    Ilyad says:

    If not ignorance then must be incompetence, also no defense!

  390. 390
    Not long till labour gone says:

    I noticed that had moved the story with the picture to a little link that was hard to find.

    Obviously the BiasedBBC thought a non-story about Jordon was more important….

    Stop paying the BBC propaganda machine licence!

  391. 391

    So it’s a thelony to call a Dominican a friar now?

  392. 392
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Galley was crap on Newsnight. Mumbling, shifty-sounding, failed to get over the key point that there is no defence of ignorance, he was swept away on a wave of Vaz oil. Best to keep him off the telly, Guido.

  393. 393

    So she’s a freind of Dorothy is she?

  394. 394
    Australian says:

    Have noted your point regarding copies DoM2 – let’s just say, I will not be at all surprised if we are told shortly that copies of the relevant documents have just been found by the A-G after all (must have fallen down the back of a radiator or some such!).

  395. 395
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    You could well be right about documents mysteriously being found. But I think the interesting thing will then be to see which of my 3 categories they fall into. There would be little point in them being in category 1 or 2, and if they are in category 3, then surely the police should be called on to mount a thorough investigation of where the documents came from. Could be interesting.

  396. 396
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Well, they shouldn’t be above the laws they make, but somehow I suspect the Baroness isn’t going to get prosecuted here.

  397. 397

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  398. 398
    Anonymous says:

    Is this the same UKBA who can’t be bothered to ensure their agents have official identification, so consequently turn a blind eye to them representing the UK around the world on the back of a Surrey County Council library card?

    Thereby allowing every detainee they have transported to foreign shores, the right to contest their “illegal” removal?

  399. 399
    Anonymous says:

    She’s the right color for nicely done muffins, rather than toast!

  400. 400
    Anonymous says:

    Well, fuck my old boot!

  401. 401
    Angus McCoatup says:

    I couldn’t agree with you more 360. This country is now for ‘ethnics’ and gender benders – no one else gets a look in. Oh to be a one legged black lesbian who is also a muslim and has four children of different colours – I would be made in this Country – fucking made!! We ‘ordinary’ English/British might just as well pack up and go to ? as we’re not wanted in this country any more.


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Boris on British Jihadis. Apparently based on MI5 intel:

“If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn. They are literally w***ers. Severe onanists. They are tortured. They will be very badly adjusted in their relations with women, and that is a symptom of their feeling of being failures and that the world is against them. They are not making it with girls, and so they turn to other forms of spiritual comfort — which of course is no comfort.”


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