September 17th, 2009

Attorney General’s Office :
No Comment on Documentation Question

Just got off the phone with Baroness Scotland’s SpAd.

SpAd : We have no comment to add further to the statement last night.
Guido : So you are unable to confirm that Patricia has a copy of the required documentation?
SpAd : We have no comment to add further to the statement last night.
Guido :
‘Her spokesman could not confirm that the Baroness had the documentation required under the Immigration Act’.
SpAd : No, we have no comment to add further to the statement last night.
Guido : Well that sounds like a non-denial to me.

If they had the documentation they would surely have released it by now…


304 Comments

  1. 1
    Peter Grimes says:

    There is NO defence!

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    • 11

      Her >a href=”http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.uk/attachments/Changes%20to%20role%20of%20Attorney%20General%20announced%20-%20release%2025Mar08.pdf”>oath

      Proposed reform: The Attorney General’s oath of office will be amended to require her to “respect the rule of law”.

      No change is proposed to the role of the Attorney as the Government’s chief legal adviser. But the change to the oath will re-emphasise the basis on which the Attorney gives legal advice and exercises her functions in the public interest, rather than on the basis of political convenience or party loyalty.

      As the oath of the Attorney is currently not a statutory one, this change can be made without legislation.

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      • 64
        fedupwithbrown says:

        If she is not charged under the law then all charges should be dropped against anyone else who finds themselves in the same position. There is not a law for them and another one for everyone else.

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        • 119
          Dave Cropcircle says:

          Well there seems to be though and they don’t seem to care whether we like it or not. That is their intended position as our leaders. We are merely dog ends.
          We have just one more General Election left to vote for sovereignty and a peoples representative Government. (As Ivor Schwartzporsche used to say)

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      • 122
        Road_Hog says:

        Guido, I see Sky have given the hat tip to you and provided a link in their page about this.

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    • 13
      Papasmurf says:

      What about the defence of automatism…. I was programmed to do it, I was programmed to do it, I was programmed to do it, I was programmed to do it, I was programmed to do it, I was programmed to do it,

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    • 25
      Anonymous says:

      Have yet to see this mentioned on BBC News at One so clearly the dusky Baroness is innocent of all wrongdoing. Move along please, nothing to see here, not in the public interest to prosecute, blah, blah, blah…

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      • 41
        The Baiters' Master. says:

        Off topic but well worth a comment; Sky News are reporting that the little ginger kid from the dance grioup Diversity has taken a nasty bump to the head while performing for Gordon outside No 10, he fell awkwardly onto the road surface when a dance stunt went wrong.

        My own view is that the kid never had a chance, the curse of Mcdoom strikes again. Beware….

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      • 63
        Anonymous says:

        Yeah, you’ll find they will post it somewhere on their website, only because it’s everywhere else, but broadcasting this promptly on the news?

        No chance, even though this is obviously newsworthy as hell. Even when they grudgingly have to, it will be in full damage limitation mode, B’ness Scotland “never knowingly employed an illegal immigrant” ad nauseum.

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      • 71
        A BBC News Editor says:

        There’s no story here. That nice woman has made a genuine mistake in good faith.

        You nasty Tories are only being horrible to her because she’s Scottish – if she was English, we wouldn’t hear a peep, would we?

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        • 79
          fedupwithbrown says:

          But doesn’t everyone say the same

          Made a mistake your lordship

          Tough old boy but you are fined £10000. You now have a criminal record.

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        • 120
          Anonymous says:

          iz it ‘cos I is Scottish?

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        • 145
          The Quality of Mercy says:

          Can’t she be let off on compassionate grounds under Scottish law?

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        • 170
          Lola says:

          What utter crap. If I fail to assemble all sorts of fatuous ‘anti money laundering’ ID stuff on client’s that I have know for years and who any sane person would know are not Columbian drug smugglers mostly beacuse they are ladies of a certain age, the FSA Gestapo will shut me down. I cannot claim ‘ a genuine mistake’ because her fascist totalitarian party have created rules that are enforced by quangos with attitudes and power analagous to the Stasi or NKVD.

          In the words of Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz, “Death’s too good for her (them)”

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      • 105
        N18MER says:

        It was finally discussed at 1:25. They the greasy Vaz on to talk about his ‘friend, Patricia…’. I nearly brought up my lunch!!! Instead of talking to the point – that she broke the law – he kept trying to talk up the fact that his committee wanted yet another database for immigrants that would have made it impossible for ‘Patricia’ to break the law. So that makes it all OK then….

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        • 136
          Anonymous says:

          If ‘Patricia’ was aware (like she should be) of the laws she and Vaz made, it would’ve been impossible for her to break the law.

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        • 140
          Oil Beef Hooked says:

          “Nearly”

          I did, all over the dog. Probably the most disgusting man in Britain. No, the world.

          Changed my mind. Balls first, Vaz second

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        • 173
          barefootcontessa says:

          Vaz first Balls a very close second.

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        • 281
          BARONESS CUCKOOLAND says:

          Surely Mangledbum Is The Vilest Of The Vile He Makes My Skin Crawl Every Time He Emerges From The Shadows ! EUGH ! VILE DISGUSTING LITTLE CREEP !

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    • 48
      Peter Grimes says:

      And yet anothe SpAd turns out to be completely fucking useless!

      Whoodathortit?

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    • 88
      RoboSpAD says:

      No, we have no comment to add further to the statement last night.
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      Does not compute
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      Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction
      Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction Malfunction

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  2. 2
    On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

    Cowards in the MSM staying clear of this. Go get ‘em blogosphere!

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    • 6
      Peter Grimes says:

      Despite spouting about it on the 10 o’clock news last night, last time I looked Toenails hadn’t bothered to comment on the leak about McDoom’s lying stats on his blieog!

      He really misses McPoison for his sources/leaks!

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      • 31
        Peter Grimes says:

        And even more for his lying responses!

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      • 61
        Peter Grimes says:

        And having deigned to honour us with his blieog at last today, Toenails spouts on exclusively about Cameron and what he will do if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified.

        Nary a fucking word about McDoom’s lies to the public and Parliament!

        Unbelievable – the sooner the Tories cut Al-JaBeeBa’s funding, the better!

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        • 291
          Mr Ned says:

          Agreed completely. One minister Breaks the law, the Prime Minister deliberately and willfully misleads Parliament (use to be an automatic resignation in more honourable times past), and toenails speculates about how to return to exaggerating the eurosceptic squabbles of 12 years ago in a way to show the BBC’s impartiality.

          I am of the opinion that toenails genuinely believes that the only way to be impartial is when labour fuck up (again) he has to slag off Cameron’s tories.

          The man is a total CNUTING CNUT!

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  3. 3
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    Baroness Scotland? what a disgrace to the country -nothing Scottish about this crook-we don’t want anything to do with Broon either

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    • 138
      Triffid says:

      Fair comment about Baroness Scotland and I think no-one could object if she became Baroness Dominican Republic.

      However, I’m afraid that Scotland has to take full responsibility for Broon (amongst many others in this Government.) I think it only right and proper that he is returned to his country of birth on “compassionate grounds.”

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      • 189
        Jan says:

        Different place…Dominica is part of the British Commonwealth.Dominican Republic isn’t.

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        • 195
          Triffid says:

          Oh. My bad.

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        • 213
          Eric says:

          How come she lives in London but is the Baroness of Scotland. I mean if she’s going to employ an immigrant she should get a Scottish one surely it would be more diplomatic and uplifting for the scots to have a role model with someone cleaning for people in high places in London

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  4. 4
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    oh congrats Guido on bringing this to the fore-just heard it on R4 news few minutes ago-a story the BBC would rather not concentrate on I’d wager..

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  5. 5
    oldrightie says:

    “If they had the documentation they would surely have released it by now…”

    The forger is demanding too much dosh!

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      Sod 'em all says:

      Hopefully after the craven cow has been de-wigged, fined and imprisoned, her DNA can be taken and she can be immediately deported back to whatever shithole she originates from.

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    Throbber says:

    They are no doubt working on the documentation as we speak.
    It will be forthcoming soon.

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    Papasmurf says:

    The Baroness is too busy begging to be protected by McSnot (or is that from McSnot??)

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  8. 9
    PITA says:

    Still not on the BBC front page.
    :shrug:

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  9. 10
    just sayin says:

    God Bless Tim Berners-Lee

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  10. 12

    Great work, Guido! Keep tugging at the guy ropes.

    Who is “Toenails” by the way?

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  11. 14

    Let’s all phone up

    contact the Attorney General’s Office press office on 0207-271-2465 or 2484

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    • 101
      just sayin says:

      Just ‘phoned
      ME
      ” When is Baroness Scotland going to resign? Will it be today?
      THEM
      ” We cannot comment from this office because we do not speak for her on ‘personal’ matters.”

      Has offered to try and find somebody to ring me back.

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      • 131
        Dave Cropcircle says:

        It’s not personel if a crime has been commited it is a duty to inform the Law.

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      • 147
        just sayin says:

        Am I to be the only one?

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      • 288
        Katabasis says:

        I got voicemail, so I left this message:

        “Hello – I’m calling to confirm that the Attorney General isn’t above the law. If she isn’t then I expect to see a press release shortly announcing that she has the documentation to prove that she had been ‘fooled’ by the illegal immigrant in her employ and that she has reported this breach to the Home Office. Thank you.”

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  12. 15
    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:

    Bitch should resign.

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    • 33
      r supward says:

      dream on.
      you credit them with integrity they dont possess. these people have no sense of shame whatsoever. stealing from the public purse and being able to stay on proves that

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  13. 17
    Wong target says:

    You guys are so concerned about another fraudster on the make – this is like rocking up to the bunker in Berlin in May ’45 and complaining that Hitler had no Health & Safety policy.

    Get real and spend the energy ejecting Brown from office.

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    • 21
      Papasmurf says:

      Surely, if he has no Ministers to minister over our Prime Minister will be priming on his own. They are all targets to get this idiot out of power.

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      • 40
        Wrong target says:

        Wrong – these people get away with anything and you have all seen that – they simply brazen it out – keep your focus solely on Brown – keep the pressure up on him and maximise the focus.
        Anything that takes away the firepower raining down on Brown specifically, will only dilute the impact.
        Brown Brown Brown Brown Brown – focus focus focus focus.

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        • 52
          Steve Expat says:

          If Brown wasn’t in such a weak position Scotland would have resigned, The only reason she hasn’t is that she knows Broon can’t sack her.

          Brown Brown Brown, Election Election Election…

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        • 102
          EC1 PhD says:

          Steve E, there was a time when politicians actually had a scrap of decency. The reason she has not resigned is not all about Gordon Brown’s weak position, it smacks more of her arrogance as a tosspot who only in the last few years has surgically installed perma-plums in her mouth to fit in with her new ghetto dwellers in the House of Lords. Lady Scotland (a ridiculous title) is the archetypal champagne socialist who will be the last to step off the ermine gravy train of Ministerial appointments by stooping so low as to adopt a shred of humility and decency that once was demanded of politicians of all persuasions.

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        • 152
          Wankerspotter says:

          She’s called Lady Scotland because that’s her surname, fuckwit.
          Do try to keep up.

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        • 180
          EC1 PhD says:

          Dominica – Antigua – Walthamstow. The irony of the title, which includes the surname, is clearly lost on you.

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        • 205
          Steve Expat says:

          EC1, you’re probably as right about the supreme arrogance of the current crop of hoons, especially the peers who have earned lifelong priviledge for their trouble.

          I’m not sure that this is what most of us had in mind with Bliar’s “reforms” of the Lords

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        • 271
          EC1 PhD says:

          No, but it’s precisely what Blair had in mind.

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    • 22
      Trough Mixture says:

      It’s multitasking.

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    • 37
      Throbber says:

      Its not just Brown – its the whole lot of festering corrupt liebour we want gone.

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    • 80
      IRB says:

      While I enjoyed your metaphor short of (i) an armed uprising or (ii) finding the remains of fourteen prostitutes in his back garden there isn’t much can be done about Brown for a few months yet.

      Until then, goading this crook will have to do.

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        Wrong target says:

        Shit – a fighter jet just went so low over my house it cast a brief shadow on my desk and I live in the busy S E – they must have read my posts and now the bombs will rain down – nice knowing you all…..they are watching us all.

        Don’t forget,it’s Brown Brown Brown.

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        • 130
          Bull Cidered says:

          I’ve got a helicopter over mine.

          I’ll just pop out and offer him a mug of the best.

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          On Harman Pride's Dossier says:

          There was an Apache over Watford yesterday. Probably practising to take out the Vauxhall workers up the road once Mandy’s sold them down the river.

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        • 223
          Dave Cropcircle says:

          I’m still polyfilling the cracks in my house from when Obama entourage flew over!

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  14. 20
    SO17 says:

    If you need to know the best place for a crap in Parliament I am your man. On points of law ‘Fucked if I know’.
    A wild guess would be, this is an Immigration matter and not a Police one.
    Tuscan Tony rightly pointed out that Baroness Scotland cannot be allowed to get away with this otherwise a legal precedent has been set where ‘Ignorance’ IS a defence.
    I think she is boned.

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    • 27
      Papasmurf says:

      Can we watch her get boned?

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    • 28
      Peter Grimes says:

      But ZaNuLieBor have done the ‘ignorance’ defence to death – look at the donations scam. They got away with that, too!

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    • 66
      Huw Jampton says:

      The organisation known as SO17 is part of the Metropolitan Police, and it is made up of police officers who guard The Palace of Westminster. So, um, I don’t quite understand why you’re saying “On points of law, ‘fucked if I know’.

      On second thoughts, maybe you’re not part of the Met’s SO17, but are from Portswood, which has the postcode SO17 . . .

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      • 75
        Papasmurf says:

        On the contrary if he is in SO17 he gave up police work many years ago

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      • 141
        SO17 says:

        Approx 250 Met employed Security officers and firemen (Civil staff) compliment the Met Police officers who look after Parliament.
        A shitty job, but someone had to do it.

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        • 149
          Papasmurf says:

          I remember the days when the Met only employed Police officers within the gates of Westminster.

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        • 192
          SO17 says:

          Bloody hell Papasmurf you must be old.
          Custodians as they were known had been employed by the ‘House’ since the new parliament building went up.
          The Met took over and expanded the ‘Custodians’ numbers in about 1979.
          All our coppers up until about 1993 were still part of ‘A’ division and in the old old days would have had to cover the whole Westminster area.
          I have seen a photo of a ‘Custodian’ handing out gas masks to Parliament staff from WW2 and behind the odd panel wall are Victorian posters instructing the ‘Custodian’ on his duties.

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        • 210
          Papasmurf says:

          Old…… cheeky …. I will admit to pre 1979 and that is that!!

          The Royal A as it was called then was as big manpower wise as some constabularies but could be walked around in 2 minutes flat. Ok I exaggerate slightly, 20 minutes at a stretch.

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        • 233
          SO17 says:

          20 mins depending on tea holes. :)

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        • 294
          Mr Ned says:

          Back in the days when the bobby on the beat was there to uphold the law and had discretion.

          Now they are all revenue generating officers. No discretion, just find a way, any way, to entrap the unsuspecting public into a debt obligation contract, AKA a fine.

          All they want is your money and your DNA

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    • 67
      Steve Expat says:

      It’s an immigration matter for the employee. However for the employer it’s most certainly a criminal matter, under legislation brought in by this government. She has to have copies of the relevant paperwork otherwise she is guilty as charged.

      One more lamp post and some more piano wire needed, maybe outside the new Supreme Court building…

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  15. 23
    News Lion says:

    Wait a minute this not a story that show labour as hypocrites, that are happy to treat people like S@#t. Not labour that’s impossible they treat us scum so well they even don’t beat us on Sundays and they let us(only if we are good) go outside for an hour of supervised recreation every week. I think you’re wrong our benevolent overlord slave masters would never do that.

    http://newslion.blogspot.com/

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  16. 32
    Anonymous says:

    Where the fuck are the Tories on this? There’s practically a D notice on this in the MSM. Go get ‘em Guido!

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    • 59
      English Viking says:

      Blair used all the D notices up protecting his minister from child porn charges. No, really.

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    • 81
      Steve Expat says:

      It’s on the front page of the Telegraph, Times and Mail websites, although the BBC are relagating it as much as they can to the Politics page.

      Sky News also seem rather ambivalent to the story, which is unnusual – maybe she knows something on Murdoch..?

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      • 133
        Anonymous says:

        Well the Guardian have hidden it away good and proper!

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        • 235
          Steve Expat says:

          Grauniad completely ignoring it, it’s the 11th story from the top of the Politics page (obviously nowhere near the front page at all), with the headline

          “Downing Street backs attorney general who hired and fired illegal Tongan maid” – sounds very much like the usual spin to me…

          …never mind, back to the cricket – convicts are 41/2 after 10 overs

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      • 144
        Murdochs PR Company says:

        Er….No Comment.

        Too busy sacking the punka walla

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      • 151
        shelling-out says:

        Haven’t the BBC got round to blaming the Conservatives for Baroness Scotland’s excuses yet?

        Won’t be long.

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  17. 34
    Hilda Rumpole says:

    Difficult to argue “There’s insufficient evidence” on this one.

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  18. 38
    Andy H says:

    How many other politicians are checking their housekeeper / cleaner / gardener’s paperwork today?

    Lots, I’m guessing.

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  19. 42
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    May take a leaf from Bruins book and claim to have a number of documents which vindicate her. The number being 0% of course.

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  20. 43

    UPDATE:

    Apparently, Keith Vaz thinks her passport was “forged”.

    The fat idiot.

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    • 70
      English Viking says:

      Keith Vaztly over-rated because he’s ethnic should be forged. Over an anvil. With a steam-hammer.

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    • 85
      Centre Parting says:

      Scrotland’s or the housekeeper’s?

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    • 91
      Stronghold Barricades says:

      Baroness Scotlands?

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    • 134
      Agent 99 says:

      I will stand corrected here but that may not be such a stupid statement.

      It opens the route for ‘passport so good Baroness could not have known’ and also ‘the WP stamp was very good as well so it doubly shows that the Baroness was doing what she should have done and so she has no case to answer’. Plus they can forge the fucking thing themselves under the same ruse and of course it gets them off the hook when it is seen to be forged when the ‘copied’ part of the passport is finally produced and they state innocently ‘well we said that it was forged in the first place’

      Where is the housekeeper and why did the Baroness knowing the rules release her to go who knows where?

      I can see it coming over the horizon right now or maybe I am just too cynical of anything Labour now say or do. I hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling this is the direction of where we are heading. I am sure AlJabbeba will be the first to spout the line.

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    • 154
      shelling-out says:

      Vaz needs cricket batting.

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      • 206
        Tommy Ache says:

        Please
        No more mentions of the oily cretin Vaz
        My lunch keeps repeating on me every time I read his name

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    • 241
      Anonymous says:

      and a massive trougher, hated thoughout the land, other than by his “own”

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  21. 46
    sconzey says:

    I love you Guido Fawkes, you are a bona fide hero of the republic. ;)

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  22. 47
    Harry Basset says:

    She must have achieved her exalted status on merit as with a face like that she could not trade on her good looks.

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    • 51
      Miss World says:

      Brown became PM with a face like HIS?

      and a personality like HIS?

      and charisma like HIS?

      and lies like HIS?

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    • 84
      Jan says:

      Merit? Hahaha… On Wiki it says her alma mater is Cambridge College of Art and Technology.(Which no doubt some people now refer on their CV as Cambridge University).But as with so many of these places,it is just a load of colleges cobbled together to make a really grand place. They have gone from tech college to college of technology to university.So many people who went to local tech can now say there were at university…….Her alma mater is Mid Essex Technical College.

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      • 139
        Anonymous says:

        If you’re going to appoint a token at least make sure they’re half way competent ffs!

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      • 188
        Bottle-fed Triplet says:

        Hmmmm…. The quibble is not over her place of education but her integrity and honesty. I know lots of people who have brains the size of a planet and whose “firsts” at Oxbridge give them licence to sneer at “technical” college educations, but, I wouldn’t trust some of them further than I can spit.

        British politics is infested with arrogant people so far up themselves they can wear themselves as a hat They think themselves so clever they can ignore normal decency and inflict upon the populace their experiments in social engineering. Experiments that really only amount to a form of self indulgent intellectual self abuse.

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  23. 50
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    She’ll be gone by Monday – but not before Tonybee/Ashley says it’s racism and sexism that drove her out.

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  24. 54
    Hub says:

    warning: Totally off topic but…

    Lmfao. The curse of Gordon Brown has struck again: This time he’s helping finish off irritating child starts:

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090917/ten-diversity-s-perri-falls-on-his-head-ea4616c.html

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    • 218
      SO17 says:

      ‘Diversity’ The only fucking diversity we will have in 50 years is what way round you wear a baseball cap.

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  25. 57

    [...] to have copies of the documentation provided by the employee proving their right to work in the UK. Guido Fawkes has contacted her office to see if she has the necessary documents. They have nothing to add to the [...]

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  26. 60
    gildedtumbril says:

    Bastards all.
    It may be remembered that Our Glorious Cretin claimed “It is a government of all the talents”
    They have one talent. It is the talent for destruction via corruption.

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    • 92
      Stronghold Barricades says:

      I demand a recount

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    • 128
      Trough Mixture says:

      Wasn’t a talent a monetary unit in ancient Greece? Snotty must have meant a ‘government of all the money’. Being a big wheel in Greek circles Lord Lordy Lord would probably know.

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  27. 68
    nell says:

    Drowning Street are saying gordon has ‘full confidence’ in Baroness Scotland.

    What we need to know is how many small businesses have been prosecuted for ‘unknowingly employing an illegal immigrant,’ and what fines have been doled out to them.

    How can an Attorney General stay in her job after also commiting a crime of ‘unknowingly employing an illegal immigrant’? and how can she not be prosecuted just as small businesses are being prosecuted?

    This issue is absolutely at the heart of proper governance. If she does not go and she is not prosecuted then the law is shown to be an ass.

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    • 77
      English Viking says:

      I once unknowingly stole a push-bike. I was so drunk that had forgotten I’d taken it until the Old Bill came round. They were not impressed with my defense.

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    • 93
      nell says:

      The Wall Street Journal says, now that gordon has expressed ‘ full confidence’ in her, she should last about five days before being forced to resign.

      Of course, I can hear mandy whispering consolingly in the PM’s ear ‘ don’t worry it’ll all blow over in 24 hours’

      http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/2009/09/17/brown-has-full-confidence-in-baroness-scotland-oh-dear/

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      • 106
        fedupwithbrown says:

        After she’s gone there will be another scandal to talk about. They just keep on happening and Broon can do nothing about it. One a day until the next election should do it.

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      • 279
        ButcombeMan says:

        Brown lacks the wit to see if he does not get her to resign it will damage him more.

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    • 109
      Jan says:

      As I type this no doubt some dodgy chicken processing plant or Indian take-away is being stormed by the UK Border Police (or whatever their title is) with a team from Sky filming each and every moment.In the back rooms of these filthy places will be hundreds of illegals.Most of them have shredded their paperwork so they can’t be deported as nobody knows where they come from. Each of them has a bounty of £10,000 on their heads. We are told by Timothy Spall in that awful droning voice of his that nobody can escape the fine….Except of course for Lady Muck,the Baroness Scotland.

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    • 123
      jgm2 says:

      The delay will be in creating or using some existing dormant company to claim to be the ‘agency’ for the illegal cleaner. A few reverse-engineered ‘contracts’ and back-dated cheques (uncashed) and there you go.

      Not Baroness Scotland’s cleaner at all. Agency cleaner. Their problem – not mine. Fine the agency. Problem solved.

      Easy peasy.

      Just watch.

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  28. 72
    Jimmy says:

    The part that worries me is that apparently taxpayer’s money is being wasted on someone who has nothing better to do than take calls from you.

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      nell says:

      The part that worries me is that taxpayer’s money is being used to pay housekeepers, illegal immigrant or not.

      It also worries me that the state is using taxpayer’s money to prosecute small businesses who make the honest mistake of ‘unknowingly employing’ illegal immigrants who produce undetectable forged documents, as was apparently the case for the Attorney General.

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    • 126

      That’s because you’re an idiot socialist (I know it’s a tautology).

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  29. 74

    scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp scalp!

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    May the BBC die says:

    If she is not prosecuted – then we need not obey any of their bastard laws either

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  31. 83
    streamfisher says:

    @ Guido… Semantics, Don’t you just love it (not).

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  32. 90
    Mathers says:

    Surely the documents have to be created and photocopied before she can produce them. Just wait until they’ve finished with Mr Word and Mr Xerox. It’s just a matter of timing.

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    • 99
      Anonymous says:

      that’s what I’m thinking – won’t she just forge them? – and now with the police being so closely allied to the labour party they’re unlikely to pursue the matter…? Or am I missing something?

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  33. 98
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Perhaps the good Baroness needs to watch this re-education video.

    She has forgotten BJ4BW.

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    MB says:

    I know that accuracy is not your strongest suit Guido, but as a simple matter of public record, Baroness Scotland does not have a special adviser.

    http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snpc-04810.pdf

    Given that you can’t get that kind of basic factual information right, why should we believe the rest of your account?

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      Tol Piddle Mars Bar says:

      Oh look masterbater aka wanker is back.

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    • 114
      Stu says:

      Don’t be silly

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    • 117
      tat says:

      MB,
      given that you are a complete arsehole why should we believe what you say?
      you are a war crime apogist mb and if I get half a chance I will wrap a noose round your neck and pull the lever. with the court’s permission ofcourse.
      you see, unlike the corrupt criminal Baroness Scotland I follow the law of the land.
      I respect the law but Baroness Scotland does not, that is why she will have to resign.
      innit.

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    • 124
      Huw Jampton says:

      Smokescreen. That link leads to a list of SpAds, which last was updated on 28 July. It hardly shows that Baroness Scotland doesn’t NOW have a SpAd. And even if she doesn’t, it is not really relevant to the main accusation against the Attorney General.

      The best way to test the truth of the account is, of course, for The Attorney General to release into the public domain the copies of the document she was required by her own law to make.

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    • 125
      fedupwithbrown says:

      She hasn’t? Well she certainly needs one. At least to let her know what job she’s supposed to be doing. Give her a brush and shovel and tell her to clean her own mess up.

      Like

      • 162
        shelling-out says:

        Can’t she borrow Bercow’s SpAd? For £100,000 a year, he should be able to look after the Baroness as well.

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      • 182
        Triffid says:

        Perhaps she could hire someone to be her special advisor.

        I am reliably informed that a Tongan Lady is looking for work at the moment. Apparently, she was fired because her employer doesn’t know the law (or something like that).

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  35. 108
    A_Zimbo says:

    If my company made the same mistake then the company would face a hefty fine and directors of the company can face jail sentences. Bet you anything you like this Nu Liebour bitch simply has to resign to get off scot free. C*nts!

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    • 129
      genghiz the kahn says:

      I wonder how many firms have been prosecuted under this law which the good Baroness has managed to break. I would be dismayed to hear or see that the MSM start interviewing employers about their views on Baroness Scotland’s new interpretation of the law.

      Then I woke up.

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  36. 110
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Let me make a prediction about how this will end:

    She’ll have to pay the £10,000 “civil penalty”. Because this is a civil penalty, and not a criminal conviction, she won’t be debarred as a lawyer and therefore will get to keep her job.

    And then she’ll just claim the £10,000 on expenses under “employment costs”.

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  37. 116
    May the BBC die says:

    If this woman was a Tory minister, the BBC and the MSM would be in full cry and make the story run and run and bloody run.

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  38. 118
    A spokes(Pork)Person for No 10 Drowning-in-Debt Street says:

    Togevva wiv Al_Ja_Beeba, we deny we dun anyfing, – it was not nuffin ter do wiv us.

    So shurrup!!

    an that

    Leeve us alone – we ain’t dun nuffin

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  39. 135
    nell says:

    I wondered what a Spad was. So went looking. Here is the answer ‘ the black arts and secret world of the labour spads. And for this, you and I the taxpayers spend millions!!!!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6094173.

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  40. 142
    Article 38 says:

    Just because her name is Baroness Scotland, it doesn’t mean she is actually Scottish.

    By the same logic, someone called Brown would be an odious pile of festering useless shit, and someone called Balls would be a shrivelled pair of testes unfit for even fertilising its ugly boyish wife.

    Ah, on second thoughts…

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  41. 146
    Keith Waz, Liebour MP says:

    I am sure she would have done everything that was proper and right

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  42. 150
    IRB says:

    Stop harassing this woman now! Keith Vaz has cleared the whole sorry mess up:

    “However, he said there were “grey areas” in how the law was being interpreted and a single database was needed to give employers access to information about an individual’s immigrant status, right to work and ability to claim benefits. ”

    So it’s our fault for getting all arsey about the ID register. If we’d bothered to put all our details on their register the poor baroness would have been able to have been able to avoid this whole sorry mess.

    I’m just off to turn myself in.

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    • 155
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      No, there really aren’t grey areas. If she didn’t keep copies of the necessary documents, then she’s broken the law.

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    • 164
      Trough Mixture says:

      Large Ghee with extra Ghee and a side of Ghee for Mr Vaz.

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    • 194
      Andy Carpark says:

      This is reminiscent of the first resignation of Beverley Hughes in 2004. She had been warned a year earlier by Bob ‘Jobsworth’ Ainsworth that visa applications from E Europe were backed by fraudulent documentation. Her department continued to approve such applications with her knowing acquiescence and she claimed she had never received the warning. Slam dunk. I can’t see any difference in kind from the Scotland case. She has casually ignored laws she was responsible for upholding and, surpassing Hughes, in a case in which she has a personal stake. Take her down.

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  43. 157
    Lola says:

    Scotland is Toast! (There, that’s something I’ve wanted to write for a long time)

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  44. 159
    Huw Jampton says:

    Very slightly O/T but still to do with The Attorney general herself, does anyone know what’s the latest on the Carroll Trust investigation ?

    http://www.wikio.co.uk/article/110932013

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  45. 161
    Jockess's SPad says:

    Patricia wants to make it clear that Loloahi did NOt come here directly from Togo – she came via. America, like all of McSnotty’s problems have.

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  46. 172
    Jonah Watch says:

    The prime minister’s spokesman said “that Scotland had hired the woman “in good faith” and that she had seen documents that led her to believe she could be employed legally.”

    If she gets away with this……………………………..

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    • 186
      Dr Harold Shipman says:

      I murdered all my victims in good faith. I believed I was killing them quite legally.

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      • 289
        Agent 99 says:

        Utter load of bollox !!!!!!!!

        Where in her law that she introduced is the clause that states if you break this law as long as you can show you ‘acted in good faith’ then thats ok then.

        Sorry acting in good faith is not good enough. Tell that to the guy who put his wheelie bin out with the lid open 2 inches.

        ‘Sorry mate I acted in good faith’.
        ‘ Of course you did sir and we can see that. Hears your 60 quid fine’

        Lets also not forget she let the illegal escape knowingly (to avoid questions of course) but is that not also against the law.

        Labour Bastards all of them including those at Pravda covering it up

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  47. 176
    Anonymous says:

    The BBC are holding back all Toenail’s latest comments as long as possible but, judging by the usual-suspect names on the list, he’s going to get some stick for ignoring the big story (again).

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  48. 179
    Flavio B says:

    Allo Eeenglish peepulz. Anyone gotta the number for Signor Brown? I understan’ he might wanna some help to win da election – I can ‘elp wivva de accidents (if you know what I mean).

    Ciao!

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  49. 181
    It looks even worse from Tokyo says:

    HoHoHo. Laugh at Lefties.
    It’s all falling apart. Belshazzar’s feast.
    All that’s left is Scheming Lord Mandelsuch and the Monster Raving Labour Party.
    Bring on the Ceaucescu moment and we’ll be rid of these bastards for ever.

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  50. 183
    barefootcontessa says:

    Welcome to the Sodom and Gomorra Show – (UK inc.), thanks to the PSBoys.

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  51. 187
    nell says:

    Home Office advice for employers about Section 8 of the Asylum and Immigration Act.

    ‘Employers must EXAMINE, VERIFY and PHOTOCOPY a Certificate of Registration or Naturalisation stating the holder is a British Citizen , a Letter issued by the Home Office or an Immigration Status Document.

    Employers who employ illegal workers who use forged documents cannot use this as a defense and will be prosecuted.’

    Baroness Scotland has most likely committed two offenses under the Act, not one.

    One , she does not appear to have Examined, VERIFIED and Photocpied one of the three documents listed above . If she had she would have produced the photocopy by now.

    Two, She did employ an illegal immigrant, and according to the Act it is no defense to claim that she did not know she was illegal. Nor is it a defense under the Act to claim that her housekeeper produced forged documents.

    Therefore Baroness Scotland must resign and must be prosecuted.

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      Papasmurf says:

      excellent research, as usual nell

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    • 201
      B.S.Cotland says:

      One rule for the little people; one rule for We the Ruling Classes

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    • 203
      Mandlesonisalyingtwat says:

      Should be £10K and 2 years at her Majesty’s pleasure. Will get away Scot free. Black, female, leftie. If she had one leg and a tendancy towards other wimmin she’d have the lot…

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    • 215
      Anonymous says:

      As an Englishman born and bred who had to provide a photocopy of his passport to his long-term employer, I say “hurrah”

      Has anyone checked the Baroness’s passport?

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    • 225
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      My understanding is that it is a defence under the Act to claim that you didn’t know the worker was illegal, but only if you’d taken all the appropriate precautions first. Those precautions would definitely include keeping a photocopy of all the relevant documentation.

      If I understand correctly, the law acknowledges that employers can’t necessarily be immigration experts, and wouldn’t normally be prosecuted if they’d accepted false documentation in good faith, provided that they couldn’t reasonably have known it was false.

      Mind you, I’d like to hear the Baroness try to argue in court that she didn’t really understand how the documentation worked and couldn’t reasonably have known it was fake.

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      • 242
        Mitch says:

        No, we think it’s strict liability i.e. no defence at all. Designed to sound tough, it now backfires spectacularly.

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        • 283
          DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

          Hm. I thought there was a statutory defence, provided you’d kept all the necessary paperwork (which it sounds like the Baroness hasn’t).

          So I went to look up the act. When I went to https://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1996/ukpga_19960049_en_1, which is where I thought it ought to be, my browser displayed a warning page saying “This site is untrusted!”

          Damn clever things, these web browsers.

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  52. 190
    MaCavity Hunter says:

    Hello….Hello….is there anybody in?

    Er……is that New Labour?

    Yes, but we know nuddink…….not our problem mate…..it’s the Tories fault……we were never here……

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  53. 202
    Boutros_Ab_Nullah_Davis says:

    Let’s not lose out on the irony of the situation.

    The girl comes from an island where foreigners are deterred from settling or buying land for fear the island will become swamped by migrants.

    We live on a small island that sells its housing to the whole world; it advertises its jobs to the whole world; its health service provides labour and succour to the whole world, the cost of which is bankrupting us all. We do not have enough space to park a car and one adult child out of five can not get a job thanks to the immigrants who are willing to work for nothing so long as they can stay here and later have children at tax payers’ expense.

    Tell me I’m just having a bad dream! And our politicians……..

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  54. 211
    Hugh Jardon says:

    perhaps this would be a good time to remind you all that I may have checked Mrs Dolly’s particulars before engaging in some deep throat action upon the bonnet of my spitfire when I was 17 year old.

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  55. 212
    Dan Taylor says:

    Obama’s foreign policy failure on missile-defence: WELL worth a read!!!

    http://ddtaylor88.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/obama-holes-out-to-russian-aggression/

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  56. 217
    Chartered Accountant says:

    ‘No. 10′ has offered its full support to Baroness Scotland.

    If that means Jonah Broon, she’s a goner!

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    SO17 says:

    Was that Chicken licken Muslim from ASDA an illegal?

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  59. 224
    Anonymous says:

    This story is not on the bbc website.

    Joke, innit though ?

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  60. 230
    Gorgon the Snotty Moron says:

    It wasn’ae ma fult ye un’stan!

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  61. 233

    Since 1997 I have had to manage and comply with 3609 new laws, is it any wonder one misses the odd one here and there?

    Anyway I am happy to take full responsibility on this matter and because of that Loloahi Tapui has been sacked.

    Peter, if you’ve sorted the BBC now (which I think you have; say thanks to Keith for me), I don’t think there is anything left to add.

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  62. 238
    Baroness Twatland says:

    It wasn’ae ma fult ye un’stan!

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  63. 239
    LOCHNESS SCOTLAND says:

    I Read Somewhere Last Week That We Have Illegal’s Working For The Immigration Service Etc Also What Is Baroness Scotland’s Immigration Status ?

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  64. 244
    jez. says:

    Baroness Scotland….you’re for it now matey. The wrath of Tonga is arriving in the shape of a VERY LARGE cooking pot. RIP.

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  65. 250
    Anonymous says:

    Your all missing the point, which is the change of definition for the word ‘immigrant’ which was made a couple of years ago.

    It now states that the ‘immigrant must be white, must be born and bred in England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland, must in most cases be hard working tax payers. All others are allowed to reside here legally and become parasites. Any immigrant however will have his/her rights curtailed, taxes increased and observed until they get so pissed off they will leave this land of the free (for all).

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  66. 251
    Joanna Lumley says:

    BREAKING NEWS

    Tongan housemaid’s parents are both Gurkas

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    • 256
      Nelson (Mandella that is) says:

      I see no immigrant !

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    • 259
      Sir Jack Straw says:

      …… from Lancashire !!

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    • 272
      BARONESS CUCKOOLAND says:

      Does That Mean The Government Rushed Through A Bill This Morning Making Her Parents Honoury Gurkas ? So she Can Stay And Nobody Did Anything Wrong! See Lie-Bore Always One Step Ahead Of The Game ! And There Was Me Thinking All The Gurkas Came From Nepal? Silly Me !

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  67. 257
    The luck of the Brown says:

    Hilarious – Brown’s non-existent luck strikes again – another minister nonentity in trouble and her name is SCOTLAND – could be any of over 250 countries but it has to be SCOTLAND,land of the one eyed lying gits.

    If Brown won £100M on a Euro lottery,he would have either used the winning ticket to wipe the snot out of his nose or used it to wipe his arse cos he’s so tight with his money.

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  69. 261
    BARONESS CUCKOOLAND says:

    The Law Clearly States On Page Three Paragraph 6/2*5/ Sub Section 5/9 All Laws Aply To Everyone In The World Except MEand Jack Straw ! Cause I Made Them Up And If I Didn’t ! You Wouldn’t Have Any Laws ! See

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  70. 263
    Papasmurf says:

    New thread

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    • 277
      Max says:

      The old threads are the best!

      What about “cuts” versus “investment” for example? Here’s more along the same lines of lies, damned lies and ZaNuLab lies:

      BBC reports: “The Scottish Government has been forced to scrap plans for the £120m Glasgow Airport Rail Link amid concerns over public spending cuts.

      Holyrood ministers said they had £500m less to spend as a result of Westminster efficiency cuts.

      Labour said the level of cash in the pot would actually go up by £600m.”

      LOL! The link is HERE.

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  71. 268
    Esther says:

    I’ll sort it all out and call a News Conference. It’s what I do.

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  72. 270
    BillyBob says:

    Sinking in a trough of arrogance and excess………….like the rest of the odious turds!!

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  73. 273
    George ... says:

    I really have to feel for Brown & Mandelson – No – really !!

    They must wonder where the next problem will come from

    Shall we re-launch Labour today?

    No – leave it next Monday when we’ve read the Sunday papers – there maybe a window of opportunity

    How about he following week – or maybe fortnight Thursday?

    No chance !!!

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  74. 274
    BillyBob says:

    I presume the Baroness has all the relevant documentation to work here…. oops, I mean the cleaner’s documentation……

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  75. 284
    A Pensioner says:

    How long will it take the Daily Mail to find said Tongan lady. Time we heard her story. Worth a few quid from the Mail.

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  77. 297
    Anonymous says:

    This is all too much

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  78. 298

    [...] III : Just got off the phone again with the SpAd who this morning said (repeatedly) there would be no further statements, she gave a further statement saying “Baroness Scotland has [...]

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  79. 301
    Baroness Welshland says:

    Keep out of Cardiff on a Saturday night.

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  80. 302

    [...] III : Just got off the phone again with the SpAd who this morning said (repeatedly) there would be no further statements, she gave a further statement saying “Baroness Scotland [...]

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  81. 303
    Cerddaf says:

    You are all quite wrong to criticise her.
    Don’t you know she’s more equal than you common people are.

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