Rifkind Chaired Firm Required Sexual Deviancy for Promotion
ArmorGroup is under investigation by the U.S. State Department over allegations that employees of the defence contractor employed at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul were pressurised to participate in naked pool parties and perform sex acts to gain promotions. During the period under investigation Malcolm Rifkind was the non-executive chairman.
Interviewed by ABC News, a guard and former U.S. military veteran said top supervisors of the ArmorGroup were not only aware of the “deviant sexual acts” but helped to organise them. “It was mostly the young guys fresh from the military who were told they had to participate” he told ABC News, “They were not gay but they knew what it took to get promoted..”
The State Department is investigating photographic evidence dating back to 2007 showing naked and barely clothed men fondling one another. In June 2007, the State Department warned “the security of the U.S. embassy in Kabul is in jeopardy” because of “deficiencies” on the part of ArmorGroup. Guido was unable to contact the former foreign secretary, Sir Malcolm, for comment.
More photos ABC News.
Of course, had it been women, there would barely be a murmur.
Except, there would and the news would be full of it.
Sexism works both ways.
Naked pool parties should be compulsary for all companies, but only if there’s a equal number of each race, sex and species.
I put that in our company’s suggestion box last year – I even offered to bring in my own paddling pool, swarfega and gaffa-tape…
I was given a written warning.
(
Except there was women.
Prosttution was commonplace and they weren’t all male.
There are also serious allegations against Blackwater in Afghanistan about underage prosttutes and smuggling rings.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4068124-private-contractors-wild-behavior-and-prostitution
here are details of the “Lord of the Flies” in the Kabul US Embassy
Numerous emails, photographs, and videos portray a Lord of the Flies environment. One email from a current guard describes scenes in which guards and supervisors are “peeing on people, eating potato chips out of [buttock] cracks, vodka shots out of [buttock] cracks (there is video of that one), broken doors after drnken [sic] brawls, threats and intimidation from those leaders participating in this activity….” Photograph after photograph shows guards—including supervisors—at parties in various stages of nudity, sometimes fondling each other. These parties take place just a few yards from the housing of other supervisors.
Multiple guards say this deviant hazing has created a climate of fear and coercion, with those who declined to participate often ridiculed, humiliated, demoted, or even fired. The result is an environment that is dangerous and volatile. Some guards have reported barricading themselves in their rooms for fear that those carrying out the hazing will harm them physically. Others have reported that AGNA management has begun to conduct a witch hunt to identify employees who have provided information about this atmosphere to POGO.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/09/animal-house-afghanistan
Chips and vodka out of butt cracks?
I think I’d rather be waterboarded.
So homosexual buttock fondling is “deviant behaviour” ?
Careful – you’ll have the Political Correctness Police on you …
I think the peeing on people and eating food and downing vodka out of buttcracks would have been the more obvious candidates for deviancy.
Mr Oaten would no doubt disagree though.
However the thing to remember as always with stories of this type, which includes Abu-Ghraib, is that if this was the stuff they were happy to video and photograph can you imagine the sort of things that were going on that wasn’t captured on camera ?
Scorched Earth is dead right.
It’s bad enough to be getting up to this kind of behaviour. But to be so fucking stupid to allow it to be videod. How fucking stupid are these people?
If there’s no photos or videos then they’re just ‘wild exaggerations’, ‘lies spread by the Taliban to discredit us’, etc etc.
These fuckers should be locked up for the newly created offence of being ‘dangerously stupid’ and for no other reason.
That stupid yank woman with a prisoner on a dog leash. Did she really think that would just remain their little secret when she was parading herself for the cameras? They should be fucking steralised these idiots to protect the unborn from their idiot genes.
Rubbish. It would probably have made even more headlines. Are you actually saying this is a non-story?
What is it about the elites that they are so bloody unpleasant and perverted?
I suspect you are wrong. Promotion for sex is always regarded as a scandal, for the bullying aspect as much as for the lewdness.
Especially if you work for the family business…
oh sweet Lord give me strength.
why are you trolls so dim?
new labour start the wars, the tory front bench supply the arms and the americans, the policemand of the world, drop bombs on Afghan weddings, debase humans and totally ignore international law.
rifkind is a war criminal and should be hanged for his crimes against humanity.
david icke was right, these people are cold blooded reptiles.
look at the photo, definitely a reptile innit.
I wouldn’t go as far as calling him a reptile, TaT. A Snake maybe but still a accessory to war crimes
(in hushed tones) A snake is in fact a reptile, Ivor.
You’ve got no sense of humidity
I hear Mandy’s signed up for a tour.
browns just come back, hasn’t he ?
Complete nonsense. If a leading Tory was found to be interested in women it would be front page news.
It was not me, I was not there – I only took the money.
Sounds like Gordoom, then.
I think Rifkind should rightly be pursued to comment about this.
If he claims that he is completely unaware what is going on in ArmorGroup then he is too incompetent to be a non-executive director or work for any serious company or business.
A U.S. State Department investigation is not a trifling matter.
You put you name on a company and take their paycheques then you best show at least some interest in what they are doing. Especially if it is important.
This speaks directly to a state of complete corruption & anarchy in one of the most important places in a country British troops are fighting and dying in every day.
It matters.
Maybe he could be interviewed by his Times journalist son, Hugo.
don’t mention the war
There is something truly strange about our American cousins. This is reminiscent of the Abu Ghraib torture and abuse. What odd repressions lurk in the American psyche that burst out in this way?
If they were drinking perfume and using eyeliner then they’d truly have gone native.
This is what we’re in Afghanistan fighting for.
This what the troops are dying and return to funerals in Wootton Bassett every week for apparently.
Troops out now.
No if’s. No buts.
No bullshit excuses or waffling about a few more helicopters fixing this or a drawdown years in the future.
Out Now.
Well said, that man.
THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT’S (NEW LABOUR) WAR ON THE BRITISH ARMY: http://eotp.wordpress.com/category/the-governments-war-on-the-british-army/
Read it and weep.
Thde Army’s REAL enemies are in SW1 -not Afghanistan.
Like one of England’s rugby team props, do you mean?
Interbreeding up in the Appalachians
American football phallic bats and big helmets probably
A bit like the Muslim world, then, where men marrying their underage female cousins seems quite common.
It’s all within the rules
I thought the way it worked was you swapped one of your teenage daughters for one of your mates teenage daughters.
Marrying your cousins would be just wrong. God would just hate that.
Do Muslims believe in racial purity as well?
No islam is not actually racial, it is a proseletising religion that intends convert all to the ‘truth’ . It just so happens that the arabic fashion have become adopted as a result of their predominance.
“54 jgm2
I thought the way it worked was you swapped one of your teenage daughters for one of your mates teenage daughters.
Marrying your cousins would be just wrong. God would just hate that.”
You need to look up the numbers of genetic abnormalities amongst mothers from the sub-continent in our Midlands ghettoes.
There’s a lass near me with hair all over her face – I shit you not! £2.50 a ticket.
Ickey says: “No islam is not actually racial”
Tell that to the Blacks in the Sudan when the janjaweed drop in for a cup of mint tea. The Arab word ‘abid’ is applied to both a black man and a slave, since they are considered synonymous.
#153. I believe you must live in Guildford and I think you will find the ‘lady’ in question is Ann Milton.
Truly Strange but not surprising White Eagle.
Moralising about other counties behaviour yet legalised prostitution, massive porn industry, colombine etc
All these devout born againers going to war, twice FFS, killing untold numbers of non-mercans
Do not buy mercan goods. Good thing only 10% have passports
I certainly won’t be buying their chips.
In America its normal. They even wear body armour to play rugby……….
Dangerously close to saying: ‘It makes me feel very Eurpoean’. You could get buzzed off here for that.
Is that how Malcom got promoted to Foreign secretary?
He thinks he is uniquely qualified to be Foreign Secretary. He’s even set up his own extramural Foreign Office with a bunch of other egomaniac loons who plan to travel importantly round the world pretending to represent the UK. Its not clear who’s funding them.
The world new order cousel for newts
No, its because he’s a foreigner
Don’t forget he is a Scot
That’s what he means
What’s wrong with that? Blair’s gay. Mandelson. Portillo. In Westminster, it’s called the Gay Mafia. If you don’t grope, you don’t get erected. Mind you, I thought Rifkind batted for the home side.
There are two sections (sextions) in NUlabour. The Bumocracy of all the gays and bi’s and the Cockocracy – the little black book of who’s shagging who, to be revealed whenever one strays outside the groupthink.
He’s been on telly, ergo, he’s gay.
That’s how it works.
so is cameron and osborne and rifkind is a conservative
Non sequitur! Pillock!
Il y en a tant et plus…… out there.
Guido, did your Private Eye subscription get cancelled or something? This was in PE a few weeks ago.
Don’t read it – have an aversion to getting ink on fingers.
Shame. Actually it’s a great shame everybody doesn’t read it. The crooks wouldn’t have got away with their reign of imbecility for quite so long.
PE has been all over the incompetent fuckers since Day 1.
it’s also online BTW
Though most of the serious investigative stuff ‘in the back’ ‘rotten boroughs’ etc. is kept for the print editions
still worth a perusal as we find out this gem about The Sun’s new editor Dominic Mohan “I’m going to pucker up and admit it -yes, I kiss men.”
which sort of ties in with all this rampant hetero behaviour in Kabul
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=street_of_shame&
I still read it to find out what Guido will be talking about the following week.
fred goodwin, you are the midget ian hislop and I claim my £5.
if you want to advertise here then pay the going rate, do not come here bitching and claiming free advertising at the same time. cheeky fucker.
rubber gloves, if you read stories in the private eye first then why come here at all you moron?
DUH!
Private Eye clings on thank god! They walk a thin line. Support Private Eye, it’s virtually all we’ve got that investigates the truth behind corruption.
always a pleasure to hear the attention seeking bleating of a deranged child like yourself thick as pigshit
I linked to a story in the Eye, not the Eye itself you pig-ignorant little twat.
this blog and the comments section are full of such links to stories.
the Mail, Telegraph, Times, BBC,other blogs etc.
all and many more are used when an interesting story comes up.
so either dribble on about advertising every time a link to a story appears on this site or take your twatty attempts at brown-nosing and whining elsewhere thick as pigshit.
and it was a pleasure to pull your chain cripple.
Freddie dear. Have some sympathy for tat. He acquired brain damage as a result of Mandy giving him a seeing to.
There are still a few scandalous topics Private Eye won’t touch… for fear of being sued bigger than big-time. The McCann case is one of them. Hmm it’s quite suitable that topic is referred to in this thread…
pray tell more.
Rifkind was probably just a paid non exec as reward for services rendered but not of a sexual nature.
Of the reptillian nature
He’s just another useless, indolent, incompetent idiot; seems to be our major fucking industry.
Rifkind comes from Edinburgh, is one of the ‘chosen few’. Quite a well educated guy. Strange strangulated accent. Married.
its a bummer if you have to do this type of thing to get promoted
A real pain in the arse
Just widening the circle of their friends.
So this Commando raid that Gordon organised was just a waste of Life as the Kidnappers were abou to release the journo anyway?
I don’t suppose it occured to Gordon the contact the Afghan government first, it’s only their country afterall.
The Afghan government is a bit like our government. A bunch of MPs have become millionaires in a relatively short period of time.
Beyond that, as here, they don’t give a shit. Their biggest conundrum, as here, has been how to make sure they stay on the Afghan gravy train. Their recent election result appears as dodgy as the Glenrothes by-election.
I should mention that the Afghan people have a far more robust approach to their incompetent, troughing politicians.
The Faecal Finger of Fate
Sure is. Everything Gordon touches goes to shite.
That’s no way to talk about Umpire Bowden. If you’re out, just walk and move on.
Then throw your bat across the dressing room and kick the shit out of the locker until you break your toe.
Brown grandstanding again, backfired as usual
You can see it now. The Cobra meetings. The visions in his head of the grateful hostage on the steps of Downing Street with the ‘Courageous’ Prime Minister that ‘OK’ed the operation.
Yeah!! That’s what I’m talking about!! Yeah!! That’s why I wanted the job. Hero of the people. Another photo opportunity for my autobiography in the bag.
And now it’s all gone a bit sour. The journalist is far more likely to be pictured with the widow of the soldier who died rescuing him. The narrative will all be about the valour of the forces and not about Gordon Brown playing soldiers, moving armies around a map.
Ho hum. Oh well, another day another opportunity for reality to fuck up the fantastically improbable scenarios he creates in his fucked-up head.
Was this McDoom’s attempt to emulate the SAS’ successful storming of the Iranian Embassy in 1980 ???
If I am correct it is yet another sad example of Gormless Gordon’s Kiss of Death. Tragic.
It does look that way doesn’t it.
Just as Iraq was Blair’s fucked-up effort to emulate Thatch’s Falklands success and subsequent popularity.
As others have commented we are truly fortunate (although it may not seem that way) to be at the confluence of such a black-hole of idiocy. No idea of any merit seems to emerge. No deed with any redeeming features at all seems to escape the massive gravitational pull of sheer fucking stupidity around this government.
And we were alive to witness it. Years from now folk will be buying us drinks in far corners of the English-speaking world as we detail the utter, utter fucking insanity that we witnessed first hand. Tears of laughter rolling down their faces.
And we’ll be able to say as Max Boyce so often said – ‘I know, cos I was there’.
Let’s hope Fat Gordo McDoom doesn’t try to double up on his stunts!
@jgm2 – art man, fucking art.
Brown has nailed his colours to the mast of courage, but the episode of freeing the journalist in Afghanistan may turn out to be a scandal. Yes, the journalist was saved, but an interpreter was killed a soldier was killed, and other innocent bystanders were killed. Negotiations were apparently already underway when the violent intervention took place. So the king of cowardice strikes again, associating himself with a disaster rather than a triumph.
Don’t forget, he left a British AQ hostage to die in the Sahara earlier this year… The Army were furious, primed with spot-on intelligence and waiting for the ‘go’ that never came.
But of course we can now conjecture why Brown wouldn’t want to use force in anywhere in North Africa.
Yes. Everyone is cross with him.
Brown criticised for journalist rescue, Harman pressures Darling, Cruddas jockeys for postr-meltdown position, will Darling destroy Brown? Before he does it himself?
I’ve never come across the Amour Group before and hope I never shall.
It’s being remaned “Amour Grope”.
Or even ‘renamed’.
No. Remaned was right the first time.
You can safely leave them to come across each other
Can’t keep from dozing off (where’s my extra strong dark roast Italian) after night-time Obama-watching, but your neat repartee made me laugh myself awake.
Deviant acts have been necessary to get promotion in the Conservative Party for years.
How do you think I got my job?
Boring!
Labour supporters are beginning to sound, like, soooo mid-20th Century.
If your talking alternately sexed, corrupt, nepotistic, ‘toff’ idiots in power, there’s only one party that springs to mind – yours!
Morning Dolly.
you haven’t got a job, you’re just a dole boy with a bizarre delusion that you are david cameron.
you’re shit.
It’s a fangless task, TaT.
Yawn
Not impressed. One bad allegation from one individual – but they did use the word “Hazing” ? ie stupid initiation ceremonies that are quite common at american universities. In the UK, I saw nothing more harmful than its a knockout – but then, I never got too close to the rugby club. I don’t know whether they touched each other’s cocks to prove they were straight.
They would fit in just fine with our own Royal Marines, naked roll-mat fighting, cross-dressing, the ‘soggy biscuit’ game, the dance of the flaming arseholes etc etc etc.
Half the SAS are gay. The other half are liars.
said the rimmer.
Are you yet another of the wannabees? How come you are so knowledgeable 53 nd 98?
It’s what men do.
When I was at Uni playing Rugby, we did not. The ladies hockey team though, now that is another matter!
Seargent Bukkake!
Yes Sir
Commence Operation Spitroast
Yes Sir! On the double Sir!
Come on Eileen!
We know where you’ve been….up in Helmand….Come ON Eileen
I can’t believe it’s not Helmans
Hellmanns
Who put helman’s on Eileen?
That ain’t real mayo
Give me twenny, Majo Naise
Does “non-executive” mean someone who’s not really Gay .. but who just helps out when they’re short-handed ? ..
It means they get paid for fuck – or all because the company owners want some kudos or to change government policy in their favour
Wow!
Rifkind has gone up several notches in my opinion!
Really, are you suggesting that he knew and approved of this activity or was it carried out by an underling looking to exploit his own position to get his rocks off?
said the degenerate.
I thought Dee Generate was the next female candidate to be imposed on an unsuspecting public by Dave.
Maybe he just enjoys setting targets?
For an article on the damage that targets do in the public sector and why (with evidence) see:
http://www.thesystemsthinkingreview.co.uk/index.php?pg=18&backto=1&utwkstoryid=187
Phew, that’s better.
I’ve been ‘r’less since booting up this morning.
Count your blessings. Losing the ‘f’ would be much more debilitating, on this blog anyway.
Losing the ‘r’ and ‘f’ = Longhand strife
That’s actually fucking funny, cousin.
Now I understand why the one eyed Scottish idiot keeps going to Kabul
I expect he wished Scotland luck with the football yesterday
It all started with the confusion when senior management requested to see the contractor’s bullet holes
10 out of 10.
The rusty ones?
They have “initiation ceremony” for the US Supreme Court, too.
Always wondered what that was about when it was mentioned in the news.
Scalia’d by moonlight.
The dirty buggers!
That’s nothing – George Osborne’s mum once knew a bloke whose wife knew a copper whose window cleaner was asked once to supply some gear for a Gay party.
Filth – all of them.
Now its getting stupid. Noone would admit to being Georgies mum.
This Western depravity is, along with the invasion of their country exactly what the Afghans are fighting against.
Any wonder why Afghans have an aversion to Western-inspired “democracy”?
And to say British forces suffered one casualty for ever one illegitimate vote: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/uk-suffered-one-casualty-in-afghanistan-for-every-vote/
TROOPS OUT, NOW!
Why do you think the Afghan women did nasty things to wounded soldiers left behind (to coin a phrase)? Afghan men have long preferred the Greek option
This goes into some of the extraordinary barely believable details of the “Lord of the Flies” atmosphere in the Kabul US Embassy
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/09/animal-house-afghanistan
There are also serious allegations against Blackwater in Afghanistan about underage prostitutes and smuggling rings.
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4068124-private-contractors-wild-behavior-and-prostitution
Those “barely believable details” sound like daft shit that hardly surprise me. (note: I’ve never been in a rugby club so its all hearsay mind you).
I wouldnt class them as “sex acts” and its not really what first comes to mind when we’re told people are being forced to perform sex acts.
You think the prostitiution didn’t involve sex acts ?
Daft shit some of it may be but the beatings brawls coercion and people barricading themselves in rooms to avoid it doesn’t speak to it all being harmless fun somehow.
It’s pretty clear that this kind of lunacy in a Warzone is not just irresponsible but dangerous. The idiots in charge obviously shouldn’t be given the $189 million contract for another year.
I don’t think its harmless fun, but its an extension of hazing as done by the military and in campuses, and not particularly surprising.
I didnt think the allegation was that they were forced to have sex with prostitutes.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Mark Oaten in connection with prostitutes and ‘daft shit’.
This is the US Embassy in Kabul not a campus in the US or UK barracks.
It is a constant target for terrorist attacks and British Troops risk their lives to make this place safe for these idiots to act like moronic scum in.
It’s not merely surprising that the US Embasy in Kabul has become a place of anarchic ill-disciplined loutish behaviour, it is shocking.
We are supposed to be fighting a War there not protecting refugees from a teenage frat house movie or worse.
The prostitution tells you that all this didn’t stop at mere “fondling” but if you wish to try and put as benign a spin as you can on it, for god knows what reason, then that is entirely up to you.
You can be certain the U.S. State Department wouldn’t be getting involved if it was all unsurprising or harmless campus fun.
And your source for this is ‘Mother Jones’ magazine, a hippy rag that once fired Michael ‘Sick’ Moore as editor for not being sufficiently radical!
No.
If you do a quick google or could be bothered to read Guidos piece or even watch the CNN Video above you would know this is being reported by all the big Media outlets as well as being the subject for a U.S. State department investigation.
Here’s just one other
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6820942.ece
The e-mail with some of the allegations have been circulated widely and other Media sources have picked up on them. This was simply the first site I could find that went into some detail. Other Media outlets cover it. Even Fox News outlines the most egregious behaviour in the e-mails.
You have been caught trying to rubbish a story because you either didn’t like it or where you thought it came from. No dice. Shouting bias doesn’t work when it’s as widely reported as this and is subject to a State Department investigation.
These private contractors are a menace and endanger British troops.
8 guards have been sacked already and the contract for the private contractor is under review and unlikely to renewed when the investigation is complete.
This is quite weird and rather warped. The “none of them were gay” comment especially reminiscent of the Abu Graib business. Why is it that sexual deprication seems to crop up so often with our American friends?
It’s very warped. Do their future careers really rest upon whether they can perform these acts or not?
God knows what will happen should Kraft Foods take over Cadburys…
Mmmmmm…… Chocolate…..
That’s me and Cream Eggs finished. I should imagine Mr Slater’s Parrot will have something to squawk on the topic as well.
Cream eggs with really whipped cream – Lovely!
RAAAAARRRKK-K! GIZZAJOB!
Kraft mainly churn out disgusting processed dreck like Dairylea cheese and Chicken in a Biskit [sic, and you would be if you ate one]. Americans cannot make chocolate. They are bound to ruin Cadburys and end up selling it off cheap to some other conglomerate.
*Whats got a Hazelnut in every bite?*
Squirral Shit.
It vill be mein. Ja, und mit neuen recipes. Wir shall rename it Lebensbornville!
Kaugummi?
Americans cannot make chocolate
Neither can Cadburys, though there are plenty of good British choccies available!
Malcs cousin is my GP
Having read that Im never going to let him have a look at mini Beast
Give Rifkind a break! His eyes are bad enough already wot wiv them bins wot he wears!
His family were well to do opticians I believe. His eyes should be top notch.
54Guido Fawkes says:
September 9, 2009 at 8:51 am
Later on today there will be a story involving sexual deviancy and a former Tory foreign secretary. Maybe that isn’t much of a shock.
Once again Guido delivers the goods. Jolly good show old chap.
Well spotted. I thought Guido was just ‘aving a laaaarf when he wrote that but this does seem to be the story he promised.
The pics are useful for blackmailing purposes.
Its the sort of thing that happens when you accept an invitation to a rich man’s party and discover when you get there that the place is full of prostitutes and photographers.
I’m inclined to agree with that.
Once photographed in a compromising position, they would have to toe the line for the rest of their working lives.
That’s what most of them are doing already.
What the fuck you talking about? John Prescott here to deliver important speech. Now fuck off and leave photographers and ‘students’ alone.
That’s wot I sed to my mate Silvio, but no, he wouldn’t listen!
They’ve had to deploy the gormless diversionary tacticians so it must be true.
Strange how Rifkind suddenly can’t be contacted. He never loses an opportunity to spout in the media and is usually as ubiquitous as Stephen Pound.
Perhaps he wants to spend more time with his family……
The steel wings of the lizard overlords will descend to protect their vassal.
By the way, have you noticed that since the powerful and emotive anti war images of the flower of England returning through Wootten Basset on their final journey began to have an impact, the images have have ceased to appear on the msm.
The much-maligned Beeb puts it all on rolling news though, from the Landing at Lynham through Wootton Bassset to the drive off to the JR in Oxford.
If Riffers had been to a proper school one might expect this kind of hanky-panky, but it’s puzzling for a day-school boy like him, even if George Watson is a pretty decent independent establishment of the Scotch type.
I’ve just watched the clip again. The parent company is called “Wackenhut”??? Sounds like whacking-nuts… Priceless… You just couldn’t make this stuff up.
Next thing wait for harman or mcshane to write a peice in the gaurdian saying the tories eat babies
There is a piece in the Guardian saying how nice the Communists were in eastern Europe and Russia. No comments allowed on it, funnily enough.
It claims that some people are trying to equate National Socialism with International Socialism. Funny they do that.
Scot loses tennis match
Scots lose football match
Scot loses lucrative illegal war contract
- no, my mistake, last one don’t fit.
Can we move on please?
Please please please Guido
Another subject – anything
Let’s move on!
When’s the next General Election?
Not until the last possible femtosecond.
Not at all. I will be bringing in new anti-terror legislation than will afford me the powers to delay elections for a defined period… indefinitely.
nah, let’s stick with this story for a while.
tory front bench arms dealers. this one will run and run. innit.
Your venom is only interjected with sharp punctureation
Ah come on, lighten up, it’s just a bit of harmeless fun. It’s not as if they’re doing anything unethical like harvesting organs from children. Sheesh.
we shall leave that to the israelis and chinese. the israelis seem to have a thing about taking body parts from Palestinians.
bit like the body snatchers, bloody grave diggers.
but as they are america’s friends it’s okay.
That has always been the custom in that region, going way back to the Hittites, Egyptians and Philistines
seems to have spread to NJ/NY, oh and via Algeria/Morocco to NY/NJ most recently.
Apparently no longer pickled and hidden away after removal, but given a new big friend who’s happy to parade it around.
Where’s there’s blood there’s brass.
How often do the directors and senior management of companies have any idea what goes on “on the shop floor”?
The boys need their R&R. It’s cheaper than providing them with Sky Digital.
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Rifkind has always come across as not quite trustworthy and articulating the question, whose team exactly was he playing on.
rifkind is playing on the arms dealers side.
O/T
Following on from Rich and Mark’s Monday cartoon, notbornyesterday have an update on “PM’S HEALTH: THE STRANGE TALE CONTINUES”
see http://www.www.notbornyesterday.org/brownhealth2.htm
This page seems to have been removed.
Shame that its subject has not been
Remove a www and it works….
http://www.notbornyesterday.org/brownhealth2.htm
A horrible story with some serious implications.Sir Michael’s routine of “not being available for comment” is stupid and damaging to him and this obnoxious company.
The news that the journo Stephen Farrell ignored warnings about the risks he was taking and his subsequent rescue, which cost several lives and was sanctioned by G Brown, I suspect for perverted political reasons, shows what a quagmire Afghanistan has become
Gig Gig Giggidy
He has probably asked MacDoom if there is any spare room in the bunker!
War is NOT nice. People go crackers under the strain.
Read Spike Milligan’s series of war memoirs. It’s all sanitised up to a point but the picture is all there. War is horrible. WW2 was awful. Pacific war even worse (Hiroshima and Nagasaki anyone?); Korea was terrible. Vietnam? Very jolly? Biafra – you should have seen Onitsha after the Federal artillery finished with it, if you could find it; Congo? you have absolutely NO IDEA what went on.
War is the evil, not just the people caught up in it. Get out of Afganistan NOW.
I meant Afghanistan. Got a bit upset there, just as I did about our involvement in Iraq.
Brown`s epitaph should read ” I never told you I was ill “
++APPLAUSE++
In Gaelic presumably so as not to upset the other residents of the cemetary.
There is chain of terror from the Hindu Kush to the High Street of Shithole UK. It is my sworn duty to protect the vibrant, diversified people of Great Britain from Islamic terrorism – besides it’s a nice little earner for ratface Rifkind, bus conductor John Major’s Carlyle Group and all the dope peddlers between Helmand and Notting Hill. Don’t rock the boat, relax, go with the flow, chill out, war is business; how else would psycho c unts like me, Rifkind, Major, the military-industrial complex, the drug lords, the Media’s thousands of middle-class arseholes make a crust otherwise? See sense man, you know it does. By the way do you prefer ‘Chain of Terror’ to ‘Crucible of Evil’? as a psyop tool? It would be so much easier if we could just pretend old CIA asset Binny Loading was still alive to explain to the little people what we’re doing in Afghanistan.
‘Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity’
Uni bog wall circa 1970′s.
130 Well said. War is failure. The human species is 99% vile.
New Labour are 100% vile!
“During the period under investigation Malcolm Rifkind was the non-executive chairman.”
So presumably the CEO ran the show, and Malc just turned up occasionally to referee the board meetings.
These shenanigans may have come to his attention during his time in post (or they may not – something happening and board members knowing about it are not necessarily the same thing) but if he’s a non-exec all he can do is thump the table and shout a bit. The rest of the directors don’t necessarily have to take much notice.
I note that Guido isn’t suggesting that Rifkind condoned these acts.
In all honesty, it’s a bit something-and-nothing, isn’t it?
“…all he can do is thump the table and shout a bit…”
No that’s not right. He could have gone to the press and told them about the criminal goings on at ArmorGroup. He could have informed the police. He could have resigned. He could have returned whatever income he had derived from the company.
He could of also asked fellow board members to lick their mountain spring water from the crack of his arse.
Is that a quotation from Shakespeare or Milton sir?
Dan – how do you know he didn’t do some or all of those things (apart from squealing to the press, which is something few directors would do, or inform the plods – what would they have done?).
the only thing around here that is something and nothing is you engineer.
you claim to be non partisan yet here you are defending a war criminal.
you are a liar engineer and therefore your word cannot be trusted.
piss off you wanker. conservativefoam fits your profile much better than this place.
I’m just stating the obvious, TaT. Any case against Rifkind is, on the evidence presented, tenuous at best. Maybe others have a case to answer.
We don’t know if these acts were a localised problem, or endemic through the company. We don’t know if the board knew about it, or condoned it. We don’t know if the board took action to address the problem when it was brought to their attention. We don’t know why Rifkind left the company; did he resign quietly over this in protest, or did his tenure end without his knowing anything about it, only for him to find out later?
We can’t hang the man out to dry on what we know – maybe there’s more to come, but on present evidence, no.
Fair point but he SHOULD be answering the case, not going silent
He’s taking a suspiciously long time for his lawyers to come up with a suitable rebuttal.
True, but if there’s a confidentiality clause in his contract – and given the nature of the business, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t – he might be legally constrained from making any comment, even if he wants to.
Complete silence isn’t in his political interest if he’s completely clean on this.
DD, he is a lawyer himself as well
DD, your 211 post.Confidentiality clause or not, can you see a gagging order being granted on a matter of Public Interest?
“He’s only obeying a confidentiality clause” sound to me like a variation on “He’s only obeying orders”.
The tories are war mongers and colonialists, and newlabour are exactly the same.
Grytpype-Thynne @11:55am.
Somewhat outside my area of knowledge; the only honest answer I can give is “I don’t know”.
Speculating – the company may take a heavy-handed view and wield the writs, but I would have thought the public interest was best served by disclosure; I wouldn’t have thought government gagging orders would be applied.
All US Embassies used to be guarded by US Marines, including those in war zones.I do not recall reports of such behaviour by them.The antics in Kabul are NOT inevitable but are the result of corrupt leadership at all levels
Although I believe there was some trouble at the White House in the early days of the Clinton administration when a gay rights group visited and it was observed that all the US Marines had rubber gloves on.
Your point being?
None really. Though I gather it was rather amusing as Hilary had to explain this sartorial unorthodoxy to her guests
Oh to be a fly on the wall for that one!
Blimey,
who did Sir Malcolm have to blow to get the non-exec gig?
they don’t call me Dick for nothing.
by the way did you know my daughter’s a fucking lezza? Gee, the sweet irony, I can bomb countries back to the stone age and destroy the US Constitution but I can’t stop my own flesh and blood from being a bull dyke.
Whatever you do – don’t try shooting her or you’ll hit some poor kid in a pram.
Chairmen are normally non -exec, the CEO, or what we used to call the Managing Director, carrying on the business. This does not absolve the Chairman, who is supposed to be there to keep an eye on the CEO.The fact that Rifkind has gone all silent does not bode well
politically speaking rifkind is finished.
He certainly should be! Years vago he was a not too bad SoS for Defence, admittedly in a poor field
why wasn’t this picked up by Brown’s Gaydar?
Many of those employed by the US Contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan had been discahraged by police focrs and the US military – sometimes for psychological instability or criminality inlcuding violence. They were then packaged up and shipped to Afghanistan…. so why the surprise?
If true, that is a damning indictment both of Armorgroup and of US Government (lack of) oversight.However, why did Uncle Sam decide to use contract security instead of the military?Bit different from 1909, when Marshal Bernadotte, French Ambassador to Austria defended his embassy, sword in hand, from a hostile mob (successfully)
Just been a press release from Number 10 – Gordon Brown did NOT I repeat did NOT authorise the rescue operation in which the para died, it was a decision taken by the Defence and Foreign secretaries, he was only ‘consulted’
I find this amazing, it completely encapsulates Browns mindset and attitude to Govt. IE doing anything possible to avoid making a decision, and furthermore to then make sure his name is not attached to any decisions of others.
What kind of bedwetting fairy, is so full of self doubt and inner terror that he needs to make a press release like this?
The government is being run by Blair, Mandelson, Straw and the Milibands. Gordon has been completely frozen out and no-one tells him anything till after its happened.
This won’t wash.All hazardous ops of this nature, which inevitably have political overtones are taken by COBRA, chaired by …. the Prime Minister
I cannot believe that Gordon didn’t make the final decision. A situation as delicate and important as that would have involved the most senior people of, I would imagine, at least two other departments. For him to just hand the final decision over to the Defence and Foreign secretaries, is incomprehensible.
He is not fit for office!
What has happened when the PM has to be consulted by two senior ministers over a minor bit of hostage rescue (2 journalists taking a calculated risk )? Too many people taking decisions here, and a recipe for Order, Counter-order, Disorder.
It was hardly minor. The news intimated that the soldier killed was from the speci*l for*es.
What! No place to comment on Obama’s healthcare speech? Come on Guido!
Can I be the only Brit who watched it in real time at 1:15am in the morning… all through the 90+ minutes…
Dull it wasn’t, and not fanatically over-emotional either, coolly reasoned, and there was little at all in it of which I disaproved… (ducks dung flung by eye-popping Cato-institute libertarian harrumphers and eye-poppers…). Almost, but not quite fair enough… violent action wouldn’t help their argument. As a libertarian of the centrish left I am surprised to find on here not only righty-right proper libertarians, but quite a lot authoritarians of the right and the odd one or two of the left… Maybe all to the good…
If 0 is on the centre of the graph paper, and the X axis goes through it left to right. The Y axis goes from libertarianism at the top through 0 to authoritarianism at the bottom of the page. I thought most Guido fans would be anywhere from L to R but mostly in the top half of the page. IYSWIM.
Anyone else agree?
As for bum and dick fondling parties, I really don’t care, except tor the coercive/’no promotion without’ element… That’s baaaaaad, which I guess is why it is up here as number one. That and the amazing link-in of Malcolm Rifkind! The imagination runs riot.:-D and it is grade A gossip, I grant you.
Obama is an American I believe. What he does with his healthcare has got nothing to do with us. We’ve got our own problems thank you.
I don’t believe he is American, and the hoohaa over the healthcare just shows the power of the corporations have over opinion. How can healthcare free at the point of need be bad thing – even if the example of it is being raped to a slow death here.
198, watching Obama at 0115 for 90+ minutes! No further comment needed
I tend to like to listen before commenting on something… That’s why I apologised for not listening to the whole of the video of the guy who invented the clean water bottle.
Insomnia means you just get more of life to live.
Wedding of the Year takes place! Between The Duchesse of Originals and The Lord of Waitrose. An entirely altruistic marriage!
Don’t care.
I have a somewhat foggy memory of Jerry Sadowitz on (if memory serves) The Tube in the mid 80s saying (I paraphrase):
” Malcolm Rifkind is a Lithuanian lawyer, currently suing his brain for neglect. ”
I wonder how it panned out?
Your tax dollars at work, Amerika pals
You leave Tony’s friend alone.
His only mistake was not inviting me!