Don’t know why he is getting such a warm welcome. At one time, if Guido recalls correctly, Sir George Young employed both his wife and daughter on the parliamentary payroll. Hired on merit no doubt.
Just the man to reform all those MP’s fiddles..
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Max Clifford says…
“Most people want to read nasty things about people, not nice things.”
Maybe if they really wanted to “decontaminate the Labour brand” with business people, they shouldn’t have totally buggered up the economy?
Just a thought.
Stuff Young get rid of bonkers Brown-NOW give him some cheese
Can any one find out if any of these clowns are being paid by the security services. That seems a very non taxable way to draw down funds from the EXCHEQUER without having to declare. On past experience its a good way to pay these lot to keep their mouths shut.
Poor old Dave – he’s reached into his box of nails to mend a broken stable door, but he’s found all the nails are bent and the hardware shop doesn’t open until next June. So he’s just using the least bent nail he can find.
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george young is a pompous thieving oaf.
unfit for office.
bugger off george, c’unts like you are a cancer on public life.
Well, of course TaT I agree with you as usual; I’m afraid that Dave doesn’t get it (public mood that is) and duncan donut will be back in the cabinet if they get elected in their dreams anyhow. What about our dreams, eh TaT?
You KNOW you like him.
Hi tat, we thought you were on your bi monthly visit to Bangkok.
Young’s daughter is still very much on the payroll at the HoC. Check it out. Wonder if he’ll lead by example? I doubt it.
Can you post the link to search for/find this please?
I have to admit i have heard Mr young in the house a few times comes across as a thoughtful man , If he had done something wrong Surely Mr Cameron would not have promoted him ?
Oh surely not!
Expenses apart, Young is one of the good guys in Parliament.
Compared to Mr Mcsahne most are good guys , Did anyone see the peice he wrote in the Gaurdian about the party that shall not be named
Toilets is upset so it must be good
Certainly did – no better recruiting sergeant for the party in question than McShame.
I would say that quite a small percentage are good guys. The rest are out for what they can get, while they can get it.
Thats like saying Hitler is ok compared to Satan, Fred West is ok compared to Hitler etc.
I agree, he’s one of the people
Ptolemy Soliloquy 11.47am- ‘He’s one of the people. ‘Hams’ People. Get it? Ham/trough….Tits?
He’s a politician for god’s sake! No better, no worse. Just awful.
Left wing Conservatives always get a good press, regardless of merit. Just think: Heseltine, who admitted being a Liberal but just joined the Tories because he wanted power; Ken Clarke, also refused leadership because the membership didn’t regard him as sound; Portillo, loved by the pundits but hated by the people as evidenced by him losing a safe seat – to name but a few.
Cameron doesn’t care about whether people have done something wrong, otherwise Julie McBride, for example, would have been deselected by now. He’s just interested in stuffing the shadow cabinet with fellow travellers and using the expenses scandal as a useful but selective lever.
1. Who is Julie McBride ?
2. If you mean Julie Kirkbride,she’s not standing again.
3.Cameron has no power to ‘deselect’ MPs.
Telegraph didnt get info on MP’s employees did it?
That can of worms will remain shut!
Well at least he didn’t tell any porkies last week
Having 2 family members allows twice as much trousering of public cash – doesn’t that make them utterly meritorious?
Meretriciousness is not illegal.
No it isn’t. But the moralities of employing one’s family members leaves a lot to be desired.
Is that really you Guido? You get by? Glad to hear you’re not going to charge. Radio 4 c12.30.
Pursue every last one of them (regardless of whichever Political stripe) for every last penny they’ve stolen from us ..
Pursue them relentlessly & without let-up .. until the Courts & the various Party Leaders take positive & punitive action against these thieves ..
Make a point of letting the Leaders of all Parties know .. “Take no action .. Get no Votes” .. its the only language they understand ..
great policy dingbat, lets end up with browns’ scorched earth policy for five more years ! Purely on a point of principle , you understand.
The plan is that those guilty of theft are punished and barred from further public office ..
They being replaced by honest people .. who will realise that to be anything other than honest will result in them joining the ones who’ve gone before ..
I don’t see how this equates to a “scorched-earth” policy ..
Apparently some paste-eaters even wanted this nepotistic piggy to be Speaker.
Can you imagine ?
He’d be more opaque than Labourite Bercow
“Aurelia (Mrs. Young) was active in politics and served as a Councillor at Lambeth, alongside George and Councillor John Major from 1968 to 1971. She was a Member of the Inner London Education Authority and of Windsor and Maidenhead District Council. She has also served on the Governing Bodies of a number of schools and was on the Board of Visitors of Feltham Young Offenders Institution.”
She may have been on the payroll, but looks to me like she was rather qualified to deal with constituents’ issues!
Looks to me that she has had life-long experience of non-jobs and sucking on the tired teat of British tax-payer cash.
Happy 5th Birthday Guido!
Cause for celebration 5 years of excellent reporting by this
well informed ‘intruder’ keep up the good work for years to
come!
Rather. Bravo,. Congratulations, Guido and thank you for the stirling service to political debate and gossiping. Very entertaining while you’re at it too.
Another Eton muppet.
lord above, not another one
CMD shoots himself in the foot again
Yes, but he is tall
Good old Guido, keep at em!!!
Next question
Can anyone find out and publish the truth about QUANGO membership
How many quango’s are made up of MPs Friends and relations?
Why do you never see these posts advertised?
Are quango’s just another access to the trough?
It was I believe alleged that at one time David Mellor’s wife was on loads of quango’s.
These are a money spinner for members and it’s our money Start Digging somebody let’s put a stop to all this greed.
Elspeth Howe, anybody?
I assume people are singled out and asked if they would like to sit on a quango. There’s always a Lady or Lord somethingorother, sitting on these things. Jobs for their friends, and families.
Look at the greedy Kinnocks. Classic example.
snoughts?
‘snot the snouts in the trough, so much as all those ‘snoughts after the £-sign.
Is it also true that the house of commons is like a once popular soap Eastenders , They are all related to eachother one way or another .
Hired on merit no doubt….
Quite. The merit being increased family wealth, something we all seek unless we are barking. Your fundamental error is the assuption that MP’s seek their position out of selfless desire to do good. I think you are confusing them with the clergy.
Only a pillock would pass these sorts of opportunities by if they were laid out for the taking and I don’t want a pillock running the country. Hello Dennis Skinner, nice ferret.
Surely he has been hired because he is an environmentally sound ‘bicycling baronet’ ?
What a truly desperate state of affairs parliament has become, if all we have left are a collection of ex-lawyers, who have all decided that they can make a better living in parliament than they can out of their own profession.
Young? If that is a sign of what the Tory government is going to look like I wonder if I’ll bother.
But who else is there? I can’t think of anyone.
Hague is about the most forthright on the front bench, but he already has a job.
There’ll be a lot more Tory MPs to choose a cabinet from after the next election.
To be fair, he had to pick someone from the ranks of Tory MPs for the job. Who exactly could he have picked if he wanted someone honest?
My point exactly.
Well yes thats true hardly anybody would be my guess especially if your camp is renown for looters spongers and thieves.
There is the smell of Rangoon Chutney about Brown
no all socialists smell like that , sniff kinnock
Cock cheese and chutney are a good combination.
Irrelevant.
You say that but it doesn’t mean anything
I’ve been working on a slogan for a new political movement that aims to marshall popular disquiet with Westminster politics into something which stands a chance of actually changing this country – ousting the entrneched establishment in parliament, quangos, media etc. Ideally we’d want decent people of right, left and no ideology to stand behind it.
I think I’ve come up with a line that encapsulates the goals and stragegic approach – please tell me what you think: “Kill them all”
What do you reckon? Pithy enough? Should it be more aspirational?
to left wing for me Frank I at least demand many days of public trial and torture , preferable a fire made out condemed used bank notes
Any used bank notes appearing in public are more likely to be snaffled than burnt.
Soon they will be worth less than toilet paper.
It’s a bit ambiguous. “Kill” could be something quite appropriate for politicians, but it might also mean something quick and painless. That would never do.
I suggest “Crucify them all”.
I would like to see them impaled, Vlad style, because they have been a pain in the arse to us.
I suppose “Pulp them with a baseball bat with rusty nails hammered through it” is too long?
OK, impale them on a rusty baseball bat with rusty nails hammered through it then. Doh…
I worked there for seven years and can confirm what you all already know,
Most MPs are arseholes with a strong sense of entitlement and priveledge.
Nepotism was rife as was the exploitation of unpaid research assistants.
The less significant the ‘Member’ the bigger the ego was.
They just love to put a young security bod in his place for trying to do his Fucking Job.
Good morning seventeen,
Now is the time for putting these troughing bastards where they
belong,under our feet and trampled on.
Show no mercy either prosecute or ensure they are not reselected.
One,six,nine and eleven.
Afternoon VVVFJ
One,six,nine and eleven. Any hints?
I worked at so17 but I didn’t say I was any good.
They were all different Specialist Operations a total
of fourteen years all told.
It sounds a little like something out of The Prisoner now.
Let ‘em know you exist and are on their cases.
Show no mercy,I don’t with my local encumbent.
Nepotism, like incest, is best kept in the family.
Kentucky Freud Chicken,
It’s Muthafucking good.
An unusual choice , I havent heard him speak for a while so first exchanges with Harriet should be interesting , I think David Cameron must be thinking ahead , we shall just have to wait on see .
Darling to outline in a fuzzy sort of way how we are to get out of ecnomic trouble watch for Enron explanations of how the investment in the busted banks is not as much of loss as it would have been if they had done nothing .CW has lost count of total bank bailout so far and how this gov guarentee is working . He is going to talk to reassure the bond markets wich can only mean he wants private finace to take up more bonds .
cameron up as well this afternoon .Alas I too wish parliament was back
How about the Royal family? Total fucking waste of money, during probably the worst financial crisis in the history of England what do we hear from the Queen – f.u.c.k. a.l.l.
so she can f.u.c.k. o.f.f.
afternoon fucking tea? – how about getting the hoover out?
Vince. The Queen has no say in parliament and hasn’t done for centuries. That is why parliament was formed in the first place.
Tourists will come from all over the world to look at Buckingham Palace and other royal homes. They do earn their keep, and up until recently, the Queen worked extremely hard. At 82 she deserves a bit of a rest.
Princess Anne is one of the most hard-working royals we have. Prince Andrew, on the other hand, is a waste of space.
Prince Randy Andy was well acquainted with convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell’s daughter Ghislaine and Donald Trump. Such breeding the Royal Family have.
Tommyrot and Balderdash!
Prince Andrew has bent over backwards to accomodate that rum looking cove in Libya. General Gadfly or wotsisname.
He even took a gentlemans “friend” with him on his lavish jaunts selling BP.
This dusky hued little chap was even a convicted arms dealer if you can believe it.
Just shows how generous of spirit Prince Andrew is to offer such support and close companionship to a bit of rough trade like that.
Chivalry is alive and well in the Royal Household by jove, yes.
Was there a golf course nearby? That would be the primary reason for his visit.
In fairness to Prince Andrew, he did see active service during the Falklands conflict, so not a complete waste of space.
OK. Point taken – he was a helicopter pilot in the 80′s.
His track record since then has been to visit a succession of championship golf courses, en route to being sent somewhere else on official business. He gets to play golf and we pay for it.
Doesn’t sit too well with me.
They’ve got to give him something to do. Other than hanging around waiting for Koo Stark to come back.
Is that a tiger in your pocket? No it’s my BP
petroleum jelly
I think we get the picture all right
Blood pressure, doh….
wasn’t responding to you, doh….
egotistical twat
are you a nuts reader by any chance ?
250 years ago the deal was the Crown handed over its land and investments in return for the Civil List.Ever since, the taxpayer has done well out of the deal so Vince,stop the uninformed sniping at about the only institution we have left (aside from the Armed Forces) that commands international respect
where did they get the land from in the first place Mr Griptite?
are you familiar with the concept of compound interest?
the same place the eton toffs got theirs.
Getting rid of THIS Royal Family would be a great idea, but don’t scrap the monarchy. Victoria would have marched on the commons years ago. I am a great fan of the usual selection process: Anyone with enough bottle and popular support can challenge the current monarch to a fight. Winner takes all. Worked pretty well for about 1600 years.
Are you familiar with the British Constitution?
The Monarch is the Head of State, and represents the nation at formal world events. The government of the country is the responsibility of Parliament, the Executive being drawn from the elected members of the Legislature, and sometimes from the upper house. They do the governing and decision-making.
The Monarch is apolitical, and by convention, makes no political comment. Other members of the Royal Family are given a little more latitude, to enable them to participate in public life.
The overall contribution of the Royals to UK plc is evormous – the Queen has been on of our finest diplomats, and is probably the most respected Head of State in the world.
The Crown got the land because that usurper William the B*stard (1) stole it from the English people and introduced Feudalism.
Vince, I am indeed familiar with the concept of compound interest but wtf that has to do with this subject is unclear.We tried a republic once and it all ended rather unfortunately. The Queen has played a blinder for the last 56 years; other members of the |Royal Family rather less so but let us not confuse the value of the institution with that of individuals
Just heard Cameron refer to expenses as “perks of the job.” disgusting.
Idiot. He really should engage his brain before putting his mouth into gear.
lay off sunshine. Cameron’s ours. A coronation at the next election.
overseas trips as perks of the job.
…..Of thorns I trust
DC will have to work hard to show us he means business. Haven’t seen or heard of much from him thus far.
Saw him on Sky this morning in a short interview about Duncan. He looked absolutely bloody awful. Is he ill?
Yeah, I’m sure he’ll be gutted if he doesn’t win you over.
Actually, Heartface, I’ve been a tory voter for a long time.
There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of us out here who are less than impressed with Dave’s stance on things.
He may not be that bothered to lose my vote, and that’s his perogative, but he sure as hell would be bothered to lose many thousands of others.
CAMERON WOULD AXE MPS’ CHEAP FOOD
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8243780.stm
David Cameron has pledged to end MPs’ subsidised alcohol and food and reduce ministerial salaries if the Tories win power at the next election.
He also said the number of MPs, and ministerial cars, would be cut. The Tory leader conceded the £120m-a-year saving made would be only a “pinprick” in the amount needed to balance the deficit.
But he said politicians had to take a lead and everyone had to play a part in bearing the “burden”.……………….
To do that he would have to change the Rules. There’s the stumbling block. Can’t see them just rolling over.
I think that we should at least see if the wives and daughters are up to being able to contribute before we knock them.
I mention this as I have started five businesses in my life and sold them. I have also been married twice, each time to high powered PAs. In each of my businesses my secretary was my wife, as she was efficient, reliable, and I could trust her to put her interests (which were mine) first.
There is probaly a small percentage of MPs who have similar wives.
The question here is, was George Young’s (a) actually doing any work and (b) was she qualified for the job? Probably not, but I thought I’d introduce this to the conversation.
Andrew Ampers Taylor-So let these entrepenurial policticians go into commerce then instead. Let them take their chances like you did?
I doubt if there are any proper checks made to see if their wives/girlfriends/whoever are actually qualified to do the job. It’s all done on trust – and they’ve proved that they can’t be trusted.
George Young is ever so hoyty toyty, he’d get away with anything, he has the panache. Everything beneath his nose smells.
Oh er Guido happy fifth birthday by the way , No wonder farage is going to go for bercows seat (apart from UKIP mysterious finaces) Mr speaker has hired himself a 100k spad , top city PR smoothey Mr Hames , no one else was even interviewed , no wonder Buckingham conservatives are turning against him !!
Oh dear what an early let down the new Mr speaker has proven to be
What UKIP mysterious finances? Please elbaborate as its a bit too cryptic. I’d be very grateful.
He was probably referring to the famous lady whistleblower of the EU who became the treasurer of UKIP and has resigned because the Chairman of UKIP went on a couse of action which would cost the party a little money and the lady treasurer wasn’t consulted.
She was right to be miffed, but the chairman, as far as I know, wasn’t being dishonest, he just didn’t consult with her and should have done.
I didn’t know she had resigned. I thought she was addressing the Irish about now as a UKIP member and on the Lisbon Treaty?
Marta Andreason has not resigned. How can you come on a political blog and make assertions like that?
She’s resigned her role as party treasurer but remains a UKIP MEP
It was tiresomely predictable.Bercow is there courtesy Liebour; Cameron and co were entirely against him being made Speaker
So what if they employ family members and those people do a reasonable job? The cost to the taxpayer remains the same regardless of whether they employ their wife or a complete stranger. The only person disadvantaged would be whoever would have otherwise got the job. Unfair? Yes, but hardly the biggest problem we have in the UK today.
I suggest we worry about this sometime after we have fixed ‘broken Britain’, Afghanistan, Labour’s immense public debt, etc. etc.
i think your reasoning is a bit askew.
In which direction? Trusting MP’s perhaps?
Its whether taxpayers money is going on someone either not doing a job, or not doing a useful job. The only cases that have come to light are when theres been no evidence of them doing any job.
Like the guy (Derek someone) who’s son was at university, whilst claiming a salary for research.
If they are not doing the job properly then that is a separate issue to family relationship. There are plenty of cases where a boss has been knobbing an incompetent employee (hopefully unrelated!) and he/she keeps her job – surely that’s worse than employing a competent relation?
143/38
Theres various scenarios a bit like that.
Actually the worse thing is employing someone competent, and doing “their job” but that the job is vicious party politics. Now where is that Boy Jonty when you need him?
Off topic I know but is it possible as the election draws nearer the BBC will see the 10 mile high writing on the wall and start leaning towards the tories? Its their skin they have to save. Them ditching the obvious losers hastens the whole process anyway.
would it not be better to honestly report no matter which party; i think the word is impartial.
Yes Arthur.
I think it would be better to burn the BBC down, with all the nobs in it.
Oh look everyone, here comes 09′s version of September Surprise. Dollar falling like a stone, oil ready to vault towards $100/bl and hyperinflation in the cost of living for the little people.
Anyone betting on a ‘bank holiday’ on 11/09/09? – coincidence, of course.
“Great Britain PLC – Come On Down”!
The fact that Catholic Priests rarely have children prevents many of the problems caused by nepostism occuring in the Catholic Church, the fact that it does not allow women in senior management roles also prevents many of the problems that other orginisations experience with hormonal based decisions
I’ll bet there are plenty of Catholic Priests out there who do have children – but none they’d like anyone else to know about.
‘Nuff said.
have children….in what sense?
Think about it…..
In many Catholic countries the priest is provided with a female “housekeeper”.In Rome I have seen nuns wearing makeup and high heels and priests driving Mercedes saloons
Are you suggesting that all politicians should be celibate?
eeeerrrrrrr? no!
I am not suggesting anything other than pointing out nepotism can sometimes cause problems, as can employing women to do important jobs
You’re making the most of anonymous posting, I see. Treading on dangerous ground there…
calibrate
It’s true! We’re far too emotional to be given equal pay for equal work, far too emotional to be given equal representation, far too emotional to become priestesses in the catholic church, members of the masons, etc etc etc,. and we would cry all the time if we were given IMPORTANT jobs.
BooHooooooooo. (leaves stage sobbing bitterly).
Mandy, please give me the solace of your delicate arm.
All politicians should be calibrated? Against what standard?
by what they say and what is fact.
@90
Catholic Priests rarely have children….
You’re ‘avin a larf!
Do me a favour you lot of cynics.
I know that honest George Young advertised both positions, hired a top recruitment company to sift all applications. Spent three weeks interviewing all those on the initial short-list. The final short-list candidates were then put through a rigorous with Psychometric testing analysis.
Only then did George employ his wife and daughter.
SO STOP BEING SO CYNICAL!!!!!
He’s not exactly Britain’s answer to Silvio Berlusconi is he?
GOOD!
Well, a little late into this discussion but then …
I reckon so long as they are competent, there’s a lot in favour of MPs employing their spouse for secretarial work. Juding by my local MP, a huge amount of work is done every weekend and secretarial support would not be available in those hours with someone else. For those in/near London, commuting time with spouse can be office time, too.
There’s way too much self-righteousness and hair shirts in this particular debate. If you want to see snouts in the trough, take yourself down to Canary Wharf, where bankers skim bits off every pension, bank account, ISA, etc and take home “bonuses” big enough to employ several MPs.
said like a true politician
Ah, a content-free objection.
Difficult to argue with that.
The difference is that I am not forced to buy the Bankers products, I am forced to fund all these muppets in Westminster, or I could go to prison for non-payment of taxes if I prefer.
Ahh yes Mr Young, the man who thinks he is entitled to a house in London because he finds it too much of a chore to commute from Andover, something many 1000s of his constituents do on a daily basis.
The man who publishes his expenses before the revelation to much fanfare, but in so little detail it is useless to find out what he has been actually claiming for. He seems quite adept at maxing out his entitlements, check his expenses, done quite nicely out of it to, considering he has not held a real job for over 40 years.
Most worryingly he believes his judgement on votes supersedes his democratic duty to represent his constituents will, he will decide which is correct way to vote, not actually asking his constituents what they actually want. Democratic joke. This country needs more direct democracy, not more of these party led self enriching career comedians, sorry politicians.
> English Viking
Actually, yes you are forced to buy their products.
Got a pension? Gotcha.
Got a bank account? Gotcha.
Got an ISA? Gotcha.
Own shares? Gotcha
Credit card? Gotcha