They are released here for your reading. Be careful to read between the lines…
UPDATE : Link fixed.
UPDATE II : Let Guido remind you what Lord Mandelson said when it was put to him that there was a deal done: “It’s not only completely wrong to make such a suggestion it’s also quite offensive”.
Lying and feigning queeny indignation…
Digested Read : Maya by Alastair Campbell – John Crace
What Happened To 19 Secretive Tories? – LibDemVoice
Charged MPs Still Take Labour Whip – Paul Waugh
Labour Distances Itself from Official Law Firm – Iain Dale
Labour Party’s Solicitor Defends Theft Charged MPs’ – Telegraph
Doing Emotional – Jon Craig
Gordon Brown’s Policy Inventions - Fink
Conservatives Need Clear, Discernable Principles – Fraser Nelson
Union’s £75 Million Lever on Labour – News of the Screws
Cameron Has to Come Up With Something Better – Fraser Nelson
Republican Twitter Kings – Time
Prosecute Racketeering MPs – Times
Yeo’s Pre-Blogged Ambush – Indy
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Sarah Palin said…
“A year later, I gotta ask the supporters of all that, ‘How’s that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?’ “
-Gilts (Mar)
As of 28 Jan 2010 +5.8%
oil be dammed
I yam what I yam, Olive.
Don’t be crude
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That’s wd40
So persistent
I’ll be refined then………..
If you want to exxonerate yourself, you could always Sound out Plymouth
Canyon bring yourself to vote Torrey?
Oh well…………..
Even distilling a fraction of the truth would be a start
There’s plenty of opportunities both upstream and downstream
It’s a cracker….
That pun’s a fraction obscure I think.
Another Brazilian Blow Out!
Is this the way to Mandelson’s grotto?
I’m tired of this oil-prisoner business
Pushing at an open door
I am dispointed that Labour have not made better use of the word SupossiTory
WTF has supposiTory got to do with this thread? Fuck off and go shine tat’s bollocks.
Oils well that ends well.
It’s abit slippery
The ultimate snakeoil salesman. Shell i go on
dese puns’ll be the death of me dese’ll
its just typical of Julie Kirkbride. if you fail to see the connection you`re politically naieve.
Oil for water
Happy 40th Colonel
I hear Mandy has a new URL … http://www.i.ly
Or in Queen Mandlebum’s words
Oil Beef Hooked! Please!!
(Apologies to our Fenian get host!)
BBC PARLIAMENT’s live feed of the Scottish Parliament’s Megrahi release debate has gone dead.
Move along, nothing to see here….
at least we know the sphinchter holding back the west’s oil supply has been loosened
there she blows
why is it when i listen to Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill it feels a lot like I am shitting glass
Missing link?
You ain’t so far up the evolutionary chain yourself.
Ah, the penny was heard to drop in EC1 then, all the way from Tuscany.
Penny for your thoughts
Penny Lane.
Oh cockney my cockney
Mr Fawkes you mean Tuscan Tony is perhaps a Grease Monkey?
Did you say “minkey”?
Where are the missing letters? Did the government forget to scan them to “prove” that no link existed between the oil deal New Labour brokered and a terrorist.
They are in the shredder along with Tony BLIARS expense claims.
According to David Cameron. “The British Prime Minister has got to be straight with the British people”.
Here goes ‘being straight’
1) The economy is fucked. Brown has fucked it up and it is so fucked up that even that fuckwit Osborne can not unfuck it.
2) Brown told the Libyans that if they made sure that BP was the preferred Seven Sister company for Libya then he would release the Lockerbie bomber. Of course this has nothing at all to do with his future appointment as a non-executive director of BP.
3) British troops in Afghanistan do not have the correct equipment since, (i) Brown and his cronies need a helicopter with a decent range to get around the UK and the only one with that range is the Chinook. That’s why you are more likely to see Chinooks flying over Central London now than over Helmand province and (ii) It costs £1,300 for iOTV Interceptor 2 bulletproof vests and if you multiply that by 9,000 troops then you get the cost of 30 press advisors to the MoD.
4) Brown’ first experiment as the World’s Greatest Commodities Broker was a disaster. His personal portfolio of 50% iof Britain’s gold reserves were sold AFTER he announced that he was going to sell, rather like putting your cards faceup on the table in a poker game and then raising the stakes. In fact it is so bad that when a commodity dramatically dips in price it is commonly known now as a “Brown Bottom”.
There are two missing links:
1. Brown was silent for over a week, thereby giving the impression that there was no involvement by the UK government.
2. Justice administration is devolved to Scotland, but foreign affairs are not.
Apart from the issues of the degree of guilt of Megrahi, the damage to UK-USA relations and the UK government’s sticky fingers, this shows (yet again) that Brown is both cowardly and incompetent. It is also a UK constitutional crisis, which seems to have been overlooked by the msm.
Bongo Bongo.
Oil for wonga.
when will we have a compassionate release
from Gordon Brown?
We’ill need to lubricate his palm
Don’t we have to lubricate Mandy first?
After he’s had time to recover from the recent surgery
You will need a white van, straight jacket and him kicking and screaming, he may even use super glue. Can’t see an early release, on and on and on and on…..
Too true. He won’t leave No10 voluntarily.
I wouldn’t put it beyond the unelected and unelectable McCoward to print a few trillion quid’s worth of 50s and employ a whole new ministry’s worth of lackeys to hand them out at the poll-booths in return for a Labour vote. More or less what he’s already doing, but on a grander scale.
Not sure McCoward has the imagination for it, but one never knows. Mincing Mandy’ll advise him, if the poisonous little shirt lifter isn’t too busy defrauding a mortgage company to offer assistance.
The link dont work for me Mr Fawkes?
http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/announcement010909a.htm
Incomplete tho.
The poisonous stench that is Blair is missing.
Do emails count as letters, Sir Humphry?
No.
OK, we will just publish the letters.
So, this ‘quantitative easing’ thing doesn’t count as real money either, then?
Yes it does when the time comes to pay it all back, and we will have to pay it all back, it will. This coupled with the other ‘off Treasury Balance sheet’ stuff such as the PFi debt is not good, but equally, not talked about. The conservatives and liberals should be banging on about this dya after day, they are failing all of us on thsi important subject of overall debt.
We’ill be paying it back with sweat and blood plus interest on what is computer or print generated ‘money’. Paper if you’re lucky. Paper that they use to buy luxuries for doing nuffin. Ffs.
The cost of decommissioning the old nuclear power stations is also “off balance sheet”. Given they have timescales of up to 100 years for decommissioning, the costs are potentially astronomical.
Well done Gordon!
Darling: I’ll spend our way out of recession
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=490199&in_page_id=2&expand=true
………….He added: ‘In the past 12 months we have committed an additional £5bn to make sure that we don’t leave people to languish on the dole. And in the run up to the pre-Budget report I will consider further measures.
…..’And just like households, our country must continue to live within its means.’…………???????????????
It’s diplomatic speak. Just confiming the bigger conversation with subtle words written into the letter. As Guido states ‘Read between the lines’
Any records of Maldelbums pillow talk?
Do you mean pillow bite?
Matress munch.
The Ministry of Justice need 2 learn how 2 use a scanner properly- not straight at all.
or maybe they think it looks more ‘genuine’ and no-one will guess that they typed them up last night….
If you can’t wait
http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/announcement010909a.htm
Bang to rights, Jack
http://www.justice.gov.uk/news/docs/20080211-jack-straw-to-alex-salmond-prisoner-transfer-agreement-libya.pdf
I wonder how tha slimy bastard will try to worm his way out of that
The minutes of the meeting 12 March 2009 between the Scottish Government and Libyan Delegation
“Mr Alobodi spoke of Mr Bill Ramell’s(Minister of State FCO) visit to Tripoli in February…………….Mr Alobodi confirmed that he had reiterated to Mr Ramell that the death of Mr Megrahi in a Scottish prison would have catastrophic effects on the relationship between Libya and the UK. Mr Alobodi went on to say that Mr Ramell had stated that neither the Prime Minister or Foreign Secretary would want Mr Megrahi to pass away in prison but the decision on transfer lies in the hands of theScottish Ministers.”
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/925/0085862.pdf
Is it me or does the document look a little dodgy.
Ie. created 28/8 but modified today…. all the text looks like a scan, but is selectable as text.
Maybe they just ran it through some sort of OCR before uploading – I’m not up to date with my PDFing.
Old Holborn- The last paragraph isn’t too clear to me; ‘without the consent of both countries’. Is this England and Scotland or Scotland and Libya? If it’s the latter then Jack Straw is off the hook because its passing the ball to Scotland. it’s a bit vague for me but I’m not a politicianian
So, the Scottish Government in Holyrood wrote this and the Scottish Junta in Westminster wrote that?
I hate these scots bastards.
I look forward to the day when we kick them all back up to jockland.
Let them stay down there. It would appear the London elite have accepted them into their circle. We don’t want them thanks.
Amazing what central heating in every house does for one’s sense of responsibility. Not to mention clan solidarity.
Are you saying Mandelson has accepted Brown into his intimate circle?
Where’s Longshanks when you need him?
Hear, hear! I also hope the Scots vote for independence so that Labour are shut out for good.
fick off bigot
anon, doesn’t matter where politicians come from, they’re all shite.
You type good fight, ‘big man’.
However your cowardly rant is misdirected. Scotland has a long tradition of offloading our deranged alcoholics on the English. The fact that you choose to elect some of them to high office is no-ones fault but your own.
Correct Britsetc,….. Longshanks was a murdering English bastard. Oppressed the Welsh, oppressed the Scots, oppressed the Irish, and oppressed the English.
Edward I made parliament a permanent institution laying the foundations for every democracy since.
Your analysis is a little simplistic.
Not all bad, then?
Number 12 referes, Having looked at these letters on the Min of Justice website, they look as if they were printed from a john bull printing set, not very professional looking at all. Read into that what you will, but I sticking to the cover up theory!
And Lord Fondelbum of Fauntelroy’s hand writing is rubbish.
There’s no letters from mandelson here. Get the peer right
Nah, nah, you’ve got us all wrong mate.
Me and my dodgy mates never robbed that post office, honest!
If you don’t believe us we can show you all the emails and texts we sent each other during the period in question. There aint no mention of no robbery, have a look for yourself.
See, we aint no robbers, we’ve got the paperwork to prove it.
innit.
The following seems clear:
1.
If it was nothing to do with Straw, why was he interfeering? They really are morally bankrupt, but Pravda have just explained, so everything is alright then
der , to stick it to mandy, of course !
2.
5?
Numberwang
Wan Ton Pun
He want order 22, 11, 67 & 27 with extra sauce. Then he want 45 (whole duck), 49, 54, 56, 58 & 62, extla bean shoot. Arso, he want Qing Dao beer crate. Shi Shi!
With a side order of viagra
Turns out it was actually 3,313.
Libya will offer these Scottish hoons sanctuary when the English rise up and take our country back.
The following seems clear:
1. Straw made a show of inserting a paragraph into the Prisoner Transfer Agreement to exclude Megrahi, knowing that the Libyans would refuse it;
2. The PTA gave Megrahi legal rights to be considered for transfer to Libya on humanitarian grounds, thus tying the hands of Scottish ministers. Straw writes some humbug about judicial review to the effect that the Scottish Courts could effectively resist Megrahi’s legal challenge to a decision to keep him in Scotland. They couldn’t, if he was dying of cancer.
3. MacAskill is a mug. He could have delayed the process until Megrahi was too sick to be moved. Why didn’t he?
Even better the family could have seen him in his Scottish prison.
The family did see him in his Scottish prison. The family were living nearby in a posh house in Newton Mearns for some years.
So no need to release him then*.
*Except to enlarge the pension of political visitors to large yachts.
Because MacAskill is no more than a country solicitor and is miles out of his depth.
Can’t be bothered to even read the letters. This crime ridden Government only releases what it wants to..and cover up anything else that it doesn’t want the great unwashed to read.
So,what’s the point?
The only thing you can be sure of is that there is greed and money involved.
EOS
I sadly have to agree.
Its obvious they are not going to put out anything that will incriminate themselves. On the other hand maybe they were clean on this but they have lied smeared and deceived so many times no one now believes anything they say.
Hence I could not be arsed to read these even though I happen to still think a sly deal was done but proving it is going to be tricky. Will they now release ALL the letters regading the last Gulf war? Dont reckon so. While they are at it how about Blairs expenses?
They only release clean and totally sanitised information.
hey Guido, do you notice how all these superflous comments have suddenly turned up on a day when politics is back from holiday and there is a damaging story to Gordon Brown.
Can you somehow block the ZaNuLieBore blog trolls like “Cod Liver Oil” “Pop eye” etc.
Otherwise, it is going to be interesting how Al Ja BeeBa report Jack Straw caught with his trousers down for Libya. Kinda makes Alex Salmond look complicite as well, why did he not come forward earlier, what leverage is Gordon exerting on Alex. I can see another FOI Salmond fishing exercise.
This does smell bad.
I love the way you write ‘ZaNuLieBore’ instead of Labour. In no way does it make you look like a twat. Your alternative for BBC is very funny too.
I love the originality of ZaNuLieBore and Al Ja BeeBa as well. I imagine it goes down really well at the Old Craponians sports club bar when they’ve wiped the egg of their cravats.
My cravat doesn’t have an egg, and I try to keep egg OFF it.
Now fuck off you ZaNuLieBor asslicking c.unt!
I vote Conservative – fuck off McGroom you authoritarian boring Jock TWAT, this will be the only reply your posting gets this week
1. I am not Scottish, McGroom is supposed to be the counetrpoint to McBride
2. If you are not a ZaNuLieBore blog troll, stop making stupid comments that make you appear as one. Add to the debate, instead of tossing yourself off to “oil be damned”
3. As you might have gathered, I am no fan of New Labour, but it might be interesting to know why you are blindly giving your vote to the Tories, given that Dave seems to be playing a smaller version of Gordon’s deceitful spin game that we are all very bored of.
SKWAAAAARRKK! OOZAPRETTYBOYZEN!
never heard of you old chap, no need to explain yourself to me
you are a bit of a fucker though to suggest I give my vote blindly
I vote Tory because my mate Kev votes Labour and he is thick as shit – probably a bit like you – now toddle on McGroom
The bastards.
Undermining democracy by posting too many crap puns on a blog that changes the destiny of the country. if not the world.
The bastards.
Arsely it started off on the wrong substrate because the link wasn’t working and we were filling time waiting for the supply to flow via the link.
I thank you!
Has anyone seen him. He’s not in Poland with the rest of the elite. That’s been given to Millipede. Could be in disguise at the Libyan bash.
Third camel dropping from the left.
‘Friends of Jack Straw’ made it known at the weekend that the final decision was made in No 10 not by him
Strangely that correspondence is missing
All correspondence after 21st of November 2008 is missing.
I’d still like to know why Straw decided to reverse his decision to release Ronnie Biggs on ‘compassionate’ grounds one month after refusing the parole boards recommendation. Course, it would have looked really stupid to keep Biggs in prison to die when a 270+ convicted (rightly or wrongly) murderer was allowed to go home.
They’d been planning this for a while.
And it’s staggering how they think we’re so stupid that we don’t realise this. Do the deals, oil for prisoners etc but at least have the decency to tell us the truth. I wonder if Dave would tell the truth?
The letters would never have been published if they’d told the whole truth and nothing but the truth. They’ve been published as a smoke screen (I mean the letters from newlabour). Not sure what they’re screening.
Has it not been said, that rather than it being ‘ friends’of Straw making stuff known, it was in fact, Straw doing his own briefings, in disguise, as it were.
These letters prove what exactly? Gay Gordon doesnt do truth and neither do the rest of em! Blairs stain is permanent, just like Clintons on Monica’s dress.
Too quick to release Megrahi, too quick to release the letters, as proof of what??
They ( our Great Leader and his dishonest, corrupt Government ) could not lie straight in bed!!
The trouble is this will not play well in Scotland, where the Scots Nats (small-minded idiots, I grant you) are (were) the only party who could unseat the standing Labour MPs. Now, God knows what will happen. In Scotland, you have to forget about the tories, ukip, libdems, bnp, etc., etc. – it’s all between the SNP and Labour.
If the price is right the deal will be done.
Pravda BBC are spinning for the home teams – the home teams being the Scottish Juntas north and south of the border.
A few kind words for the sacrifices Libya has made in recent years, poor lambs.
Not a word about British Policewomen being shot though.
The Tartan Tyranny and their friends at Pravda must be punsihed – but by whom?
Heir to Blair Cameron? Doubt it – fucking EU surrender monkey.
Re: British Policewoman being shot
I think that was covered at the time.
It has never been covered. No-one has ever been charged with her murder even though the culprit is known and libya has promised to extradite him for trial, nothing has ever happened.
So we can send megrahi home but they can’t send the apparent murderer here to be tried?
I was referring to BBC coverage of the event at the time. But I agree, an exchange of Libyians would have been more polite. At the moment it seems a bit like one of those embarrassing Christmasses where someone forgot to bring a present. I suppose the oil will do instead.
No I’m sorry I don’t regard the PC’s death as an embarrassment and will not accept that ‘oil will have do instead’.
We lost a life on top of the 270 that died on that plane. Each life is valuable though I do accept not to this government.
To this government life is cheap. Just look at how they’re throwing away the lives of our armed forces because they can’t be bothered to kit them out properly?
Black Flag?
Red Flag?
Just asking, like.
Green flag, methinks.
Just not White Flag.
Yerrow Frag, if you prease.
Red fag more like
Yellow flag if yellow jack is aboard.
LIBYA LINKS CO-OPERATION ON WPC FLETCHER’S MURDER TO GADDAFI CASE
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6816460.ece
Might have been more enlightening to see the exchange of correspondence including emails and notes of meetings, between ,Blair, the British Government and the Libyan authorities.
But naturally they won’t want to publish anything that is too obviously damaging to them.
Yes and I’d forgotten mandy’s to-ing and fro-ing with the Libyans. His emails on this subject would undoubtedly prove interesting.
Has anyone seen Mandelson? Probably in disguise with Gordon at the Libyan bash.
First camel dropping from the left.
For all in tents and purposes
He’s probably stilll having trouble with his under carriage.
I thought that it would have been the Libyans to-ing anf fro-ing with Mandleslime, if you get my meaning.
And talking of Queen Mandybum, what else does she do but…
“Lying and feigning queeny indignation…”?
That careless man that made the mistake and shredded tonibells’ expenses, probably took care of the Libyan corespondence too.
“Notes of meetings” Nell? Note-taking at meetings wasn’t something Bliar was too keen on – you can see why now. All part of his plan to subvert our established procedures in government – only in his case with good cause.
Blair and Mandy will not leave any paper trails. Its all done face-to-face, omerta-like. Why take all the effort of travelling all over the place for meetings (aka holidays).
…..how very dare you………..
Oooooh, “shut that door” ON YOUR WAY OUT!
…….get you………………..
I don’t give a fuck, WHEN IS THE COST OF FUEL COMING DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Likely to rise again soon – gordon needs the petrol tax to help that economic black hole he’s just created.
Fuel duty rises 2p
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/01/fuel-duty-rises-again
Motorist organisations and hauliers last night attacked the introduction of a 2p rise in fuel duty, imposed by the government from midnight.
The rise will be seen from today at the pumps, where the average price of a litre of unleaded will now be £1.05. It is the third rise since December and the government said it was essential to support the public finances.
When C A R T (H) E (L) L freezes over…
it won’t.
Unless:
a) theres another shitstorm on a global level.
b) Speculators decide it should.
c) China decrees “bikes are good”, or collapses in some way.
d) Its discovered in huge quantities in a nice country that doesnt need invading by anyone.
d) Gulf of Mexico anybody?
Never is the answer you are looking for, Mc Doughnut will see to that.
Yeah, and it’s only the beginning. The pips will be squeaking for many years to come. Those who possibly can should sell up and get out now or face the rest of their lives in poverty.
The Philippines looks good to me. If you’re 50 or over you only need $20,000 for a retirement visa. You can get a Filipino maid (6 days a week) for about $25 a month :-)
Sorry to have to tell you but it’s likely to rise to 110p per litre by October
I’d believe that.
Anyone with oil central heating needs to be buying now.
Actually they need to be selling. Selling the house, that is.
They should have ripped out their oil fired boilers back in the 70’s after the oil crisis, as soon as North Sea gas came online
All very well and good,but not much of a solution if there is no gas supply where one lives,eh?
It isn’t unless we stop printing money AKA inflation.
Inflation means higher costs. We might have credit deflation (i.e. no-one wants to lend people money to buy stuff they’re unlikely to pay back) but that was a sign that far too much credit was created in the first place.
If we let bankrupt banks go bust then we could have printed the money and bailed out Depositors, but we bailed out bondholders with taxpayers money and kept bankrupt banks around too. So taxpayers have to pay off the debt and have higher inflation.
Exactly! There’s been little mention of this by the State Broadcaster. Since “global warming” claptrap is now proving more and more difficult to justify, the Government now claims the rise in duty is to fund “services”.
I don’t think this clarifies things at all. As you say reading between the lines – they are desperately putting pressure on the Scots to get this deal signed.
Question – how many other Libyan prisoners does Scotland presently hold?
Is this whole trade deal not entirely conducted on the basis of getting the bomber back in Libya?
Gross hypocrisy!
The smears and innuendo’s that are coming thick and fast from media propagandists about the Megrahi compassionate release are becoming tiresome because of the fact that if this decision had been taken independently by a panel of Scots Judges instead of the Justice Secretary, the decision would have been exactly the same given what Scots law clearly says regarding the terms and conditions for compassionate release.
Make no mistake this is an attack by ill-informed people on the Scots justice system. Scots Justice is not and never shall be at the beck and call of other nations who have different views of what justice should be and Scots Justice most certainly has no place for simply punishing people for revenge sake despite what these ill-informed critics appear to want.
The Scots legal establishment plus most rank and file New Labour and Lib Dem MSP’s know this and that is why they are quietly supporting Kenny MacAskill’s decision.
You cannot pick and choose which laws you abide with and those you will not abide with as David Cameron, and the unionist opposition leaders at Holyrood et al, would appear to want to do. In fact all that the latter have achieved is to demonstrate conclusively that they have no moral compass whatsoever when it comes to the means they employ to uphold their unionist beliefs.
So the only conclusion we Scots can reach is that they are gutter politicking of the very worst kind in order to cravenly appease the ill-informed critics of the decision in the UK and USA.
Bongo bongo
“Make no mistake this is an attack by ill-informed people on the Scots justice system”.
Not really YOU let the motherfucker go who blew up 270 innocent people at 40000 feet. Unless of course he didn’t and it was someone else but of course that can’t be the case as it is further stated Scots justice is different to eveyone else’s because they are so fucking perfect in every way with sugar coated buubbles and teddy bears on top.
You are just a total bunch of Hoons and spineless gutless hoons at that. You caved in too demands which makes you no better than the person you released so just FUCK OFF with you poncy words. This will haunt you for years to come. The bastard should have died in abject pain and indescribeable agony in jail without any pain relief whatsoever. Fuck him!
Quite so. If Megrahi was guilty of the murder of 270 people then he deserves to rot in jail to his dying day. In fact if he didn’t have cancer they should have fucking well given it to him and shat in his drip. So thats minus one for your precious fucking Scots justice.
And if he is innocent (as I and many others suspect and only fitted up to appease the yanks) then that’s another minus one for your fucking Scots justice for banging him up in the first case.
Scots justice has managed to manufacture the perfect lose-lose situation here.
Only an utter fucking moron could claim that Scots justice comes out of this with a shred of credibility.
It would have been better for Scots justice to allow the appeal, find his conviction unsafe and send him home. Then at least they would be acknowledging their original error.
But of course it takes a big man to admit he made a mistake. And between Salmond, Brown and Straw the only big thing about Brown is the fucking enormous cock-up he’s made of the entire economy, the only big thing about Salmondis his fucking enormous gut and the only big thing about Straw is the big surprise that he hasn’t been caught out yet.
verbose shite, it’s a good job Peter Sutcliffe is not banged up in a Scotch prison
The Scots’ unctuousness is a perplexing phenomenon, and the post by Marian above is a cracker of the genre.
Almost Gallowayesque, with a pompous aridity punctured here and there with groaning phrases reminiscent of rigourously orthodox 1970s duckspeak…
Doubleplusshite political jockanese, innit?
Nurse, nurse! I’m being traduced!
Marian: you are a civil servant being paid to prove black is white (clue – no typos, so obviously been through several drafts) , and I claim my fiver.
Well spotted, Pensioner.
We will also assume that the inclusion of an apostrophe in the plural, non possessive form of “innuendos” was not a typo but merely shows Marian to be the product of a know-nothing Labour edukayshun.
Indeed. There is something fishy about the way it’s written. Suspiciously well polished for a blog comment.
Sorry to be pedantic Mr Pensioner but there is a typo in the first line.
I believe the plural of innuendo is innuendos, it’s certainly not inunendo’s.
This doesn’t disprove your hypothesis, because thanks to years of Blair’s Education, Educajion, Edukashun, the population, including civil servants, north and south of the Border can barely read or write, despite having multiple A stars in Communication Studies etc
You might also note that there is no punctation in the whole piece.
I’m a bit slow catching up but I’m glad to see I have only repeated what Mr Australian has said, much more succinctly.
Plus I’ve just noticed there is one lonely comma amongst the sea of words.
Professor, and Australian: my shorter Oxford (printed 3rd Edition circa 1980) interestingly shows the plural forms -do’s and -dos as being obsolete, and the correct form being -does
Scots law put the wrong man in jail which is why the appeal was dropped
You’re not complaining about your free prescriptions and university places, though, are you.
Selective, or what.
Very good piece Marian, I endorse every word.
sad…… shoot the twat
194, you sound more like newlabour’s authoritarian ministry of justice , they don’t allow dissent.
“Well we’re never going to have a proper bloody democracy in this country until we start shooting a few people!”
-Alf Garnett, 1972.
Might fine talk from a bunch of blokes that like to mince about in tartan skirts.
As long as Scotland (and England) remain in the EU, Scottish law (and English law) will be replaced by Napoleonic law due to the Lisbon treaty
I see that some of the unionist rednecks are at it here with their eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth system of justice.
Scots justice may have got it wrong first time when it put Megrahi away for allegedly being the Lockerbie bomber but make no mistake Kenny MacAskill didn’t get it wrong this time with his strictly justice based decision to release Megrahi on compassionate grounds because he is soon going to die of cancer.
Much as I hate to disappoint the redneck faction here, there is no conspiracy here for the SNP for they and New Labour would NEVER enter into any sort of collusion over this or any other matter – such is the politics of Scotland.
However it is clear that the UK government thought it was in the best interests of the UK when it laid the pathway for Megrahi to be allowed to leave Scotland and return to Libya. Only time will tell us whether this was because they thought it would assist with the BP deal, or bringing Libya in from the cold on nuclear weapons etc., or whether it was because they genuinely believed that the wrong man was sent down for the crime.
You may also wish to note that there is a rumour going the rounds that a SNP MSP is going to name the real culprit during a debate on the issue in the Scots Parliament tomorrow using information gathered by Megrahi supporters. It is also rumoured that the person to be named is now strongly suspected of being the bomber by the USA and UK intelligence services. So there may be much more of this sorry tale still to come out and a lot more egg on faces in due course.
Eye for an eye system of justice?
Fucking right. Kill 270 people and only get 40 years in jail? Then get released early ‘cos you’re dying. Awwwww shame.
You have to be winding us up.
Well done. Good job.
If what you say about rumours of an MSP naming the real culprit is true then it won’t come as any surprise to most of us that it was not Megrahi. Which again begs the question – what the fuck was Scottish justice doing allowing itself to be lead up the garden path like this?
So Scottish justice prostitutes itself once to appease the yanks. And a second time to appease the Libyans?
What a fucking comedy system.
Macaskill got it very wrong on the appeal. whicn was dropped mere days after Megrahi revieved a personal visit from Macaskill.
the Lockerbie victims relatives want and deserve an answer to that one, never mind the posturing halfwits in Scottish Labour or the Libs or ScotCons.
the dropping of the appeal suits everyone in power including the US, UK and all those involved in the farcical trial.
the man who will be named is in all likelyhood the nephew of Syrian terror warlord Ahmed Jibril, the founder of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC). Codenamed Abu Elias and who lives in Washington.
sorry love we are not saying anything other than wot u wrote is a carrier back full of dog shit and and a puked McDonalds milkshake
I just hope Marian,that the egg is not on your face, when more emerges on this scandal.
“Much as I hate to disappoint the redneck faction here, there is no conspiracy here for the SNP for they and New Labour would NEVER enter into any sort of collusion over this or any other matter – such is the politics of Scotland.”
How very naive you are, Marian.
Surely just taking the piss. Nobody is that naive.
Marian..may I rephrase part of your post please?
““Much as I hate to disappoint the naive faction here, there is always the chance of conspiracy here for the SNP, for they and New Labour would ALWAYS enter into any sort of collusion over this or any other matter ,if it suits them– such is politics .”
Anyone seen my suitcase ?
Yes Marian, plenty of vile red necks on this blog. Have you ever heard such vitriol? Not nice people to know. Newlabour neo fascists? Certainly wouldn’t let them own a dog, have a wife, or have anything to do with government! Can’t conduct any conversation without swearing, where the hell do they come from? Hope they’re nothing to do with England! Anon at 416, yes the relatives deserve better, and they’ll have to fight for another trial.
Of course it’s not beyond imagination that any of the Labour MPs with law degrees have any knowledge of Scots Law, or access to people who are very knowledgable on the subject.
Having held discussions with Libya, Blair, Straw and co. would never have thought to investigate any avenue to release Megrahi in the hope of improving UK National Interests.
MacAskill was sold a pup by Straw, used Scots Law to free the ‘dying’ man – why was the prison doctor the only medic to examine Megrahi? – and let the Westminster politicians off the hook.
So that greasy crooked spiv finds the fact we have rumbled his scam offensive does he?
I find(and I dont think I am alone in this)the fact that he hasnt died an agonising death yet extremely offensive, I find the fact that he is able to become a multi millionaire by taking generous backhanders extemely offensive.
All in all the fact that he has somehow come from shamed crook to great political power and influence without going anywhere near a ballot box is driving me crazy with thoughts of direct action to wipe that smug grin from his ugly face and I think I am far from alone in this desire.
I can’t understand the fuss. Surely Mr Al McGrahi is Scots, isn’t he?
….and his tartan is red and brown, signifying blood and oil!
70 years to the day when Poland was invaded by Hitler, wreaths were laid in Gdansk by Russian Prime Minister Valdimir Putin, Chancellor Angela Merkel, and UK Foreign Minister David Milliband. Was Brown not invited?
I’m not sure that the Poles would have liked to see Milliband there, given that his grandfather fought for the wrong side in 1919.
The Brown curse was intentionally kept away: there were real fears locally of an unwelcome visit from the Russian Bear, or possibly World War III or even a surprise attack on Gdansk from a wandering Death Star.
Samuel Milliband fought on the side of the Polish Commnunists in 1919. I think Brown has either fouled up, or has been set up by the FO.
Set up I think
Apparently Samuel Miliband treacherously fought for the Soviet invading forces against his own country, Poland, during the Soviet-Polish war. The Soviets lost.
Sir William – do you think we should let Lech Kaczynski know this while Milipede is still in Gdansk? He might do us all a favour and lock Milibrain in a Polish prison as revenge for his Grandad’s commie crimes.
So Milliband is another name changer! Westminster seems full of them!
No, the family have been called ‘Miliband’ for generations.
and been cowardly back stabbing twats for generations as well it seems.
That’s a coincidence. It’s been Jewish for generations as well.
So what you’re saying is that our border controls didn’t work back then either?
What was Straw’s other name ? What was Murphy’s other name? Does anyone know?
Gilbey. Funnily enough Straw’s Jewish as well. There’s a lot of ‘em in Westminster.
I read somewhere Mandy’s one too. Any more for any more?
I,m afraid Brown may just be making a 70th Anniversary Broadcast at 11.00am on Thursday on “the wireless” – let’s hope not as that would be surely chancing fate ?
“Two days ago, I delivered an ultimatum to the British people requiring them to give me their assurance that they would submit in all things to the newly appointed “Dear Leader”, my Lord P. Mandlescum.
“I have to tell you that I have received no such assurance and that therefore this Government is now at war with the British people.”
don’t you mean Mandlesonovavitch?
Seventy years ago my forefathers coined the term ‘Molotov Cocktail’ which was half vodka, half kerosene in a half litre vodka bottle with the burning rag on top. The Irish later adopted it for their own but they certainly didn’t invent it. It proved very useful against the Russian tanks when thrown onto the air intakes. On this anniversary of the outbreak of WWII, perhaps it would be appropriate to remember this little known fact.
Judging by the freshly loaded pic, if this politics gig doesn’t work out for him he’s got a great alternate future in proctology.
There’s a photo of Brown on the front of the FT where someone’s apparently grafted on huge hands, perfect for holding aside the bumcheeks. Plus they’ve underlit him with a ghosty torch.
“It’s not only completely wrong to make such a suggestion it’s also quite offensive”.
He is not saying that there was NOT a deal. He is only saying he felt it was wrong. I.E., not something he wanted. And sometimes the truth does offend…
Apparently Mandelson has been seen around Westminster in a pair of pale blue loafers – Osborne and Cameron.
Is that Etonian code?
Were they on his feet?
very funny!
The Wall Street Journal doesn’t see it jack’s way.
“Regardless of which legal fig-leaf Mr McAskill chose to employ in releasing Megrahi, the Brown Government made clear to Edinburgh, repeatedly, that the issue of Megrahi was subordinate to the UK’s ‘overwhelming interests’ in improving the relationship with Libya. We know from Libyan officials that those ‘ interests’ included commercial oil contracts.
Notwithstanding it is not in the US Administrations interests to fire up this argument again for the following reasons :-
1. Both the UK and USA have interlocking interests from Africa;Middle East;Afghanistan.Despite the furore in the US media the US Administration cannot allow the criticism to get too far out of hand.They need to play the US Domestic Audience but not too far to that it damages vital US interests abriad
2. America surprisingly has good improving relations with Libya and wants to show other so called “terrorist” states such as Syria/Iran that by following the Libyan way there will be benefits.Libya is also a key ally in the fight on terror in the region now according to the US State Dept analysis.
This whole affair will quietly be allowed to “peter out”(no pun intended).In the greater game both governments have decided that 270 lives are the price they have to pay for securing their interests in the region
……………“He lost his adopted daughter in the usual fiasco of mistargeted American bombs in April 1986, when one aircraft attacked his private palace in Tripoli”………………..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/a-very-weird-leader-696691.html
It’s a bit rich for the Septics to get all hot and bothered over Megrahi when they were responsible for shooting down an airliner with 290 souls on board – and far from making any apology or show of regret, they gave the skipper of the USS Vincennes a medal!
Does he ever tell the truth? Yet again, sleazy Mandelson gives Labour a bad name. I’d call for his sacking, but he’d only be back within months.
You can’t sack him – he’s in the House of Lords for life (and at our expense).
Don’t you just love the wonderful, democratic Britain of today?
Lord Whoare Whoare wasn’t sacked either
What a motivation for dave to make the 2nd house elected.
He’s like that last nugget of poo that floats around the bowl and just wont flush.
He’s not LIKE that last nugget of poo that floats around the bowl and just won’t flush.
Sleazy Mandelson IS that last nugget of poo that floats around the bowl and just wont flush.
I wanna know how the fcuk the Queen could allow him into the Lords after TWICE being sacked for his lies/misdemeanors/fraud when in the cabinet ? Or doesnt she have a say ?
Christ! I’ve only just noticed we’ve gained a Ministry of Justice and even worse, slippery Straw the erstwhile commie, is in charge, scary!
The mere fact that this issue bears the fingerprints of Blair, Brown Straw & Mandelson is enough to tell me it’s dodgy from top to bottom ..
Mandypoos being the bottom?
Here’s another ‘take’ – maybe it’s oil + money too? mod this one to oblivion also why dontcha (just kidding….):
WAYNE MADSEN ON RUSSIA TODAY LOCKERBIE BOMBER RELEASED TO BAILOUT BRITISH BANKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W57YrOwuvE&feature=related
Let’s face it – the world is ‘run’ by a global mafia…
Wayne Madsen’s the Man! Halifax, Royal Bank of Scotland, Mandelson, Corfu …
Wheels within wheels. Hamsters, meerkats, East European accents, Icelandic banks, Premier league football, the Roswell incident.
The only problem with conspiracy theories is they rely on competent people to
a) implement them
b) keep them quiet
Our political class is corrupt, but not competent.
our political class are all cardboard cut-outs, owned by big money interests, whose only purpose is to manipulate legislation as per instructions, while pretending to be right or left, red or blue, this or that.
The main requirements for the job are:
A) to be a credible liar.
and
B) a greedy bastard.
They are handsomely rewarded with a de-luxe lifestyle, obscene salaries & benefits with a massive pension to pig-out their rich retirements.
cnuts
Surely this will pave the way for Ghaddafi’s son to purchase a failing London club like QPR or West Ham?
or someone’s property portfolio, which seems to have declined a little in value, eh Tone ?
or pay for a few fcuk-off mansions for the gifted ones. eh pete ?
addendum to my last post – I bet he fcukin hates being called Pete.
So WobblyJim – Pete Mandlescum it is then! It has somewhat of a ring about it eh? (oooooh, matron!).
Perhaps the ironies in “Mexican Pete” would discomfit him rather more.
Aficionados of the classic poem “Eskimo Nell” will understand. For those who don’t, Google it – I wouldn’t dream of lowering the tone of Guido’s dignified blog with a direct quotation.
“It’s not only completely wrong to make such a suggestion it’s also quite offensive”.
So not actually denying it, just telling the person they are wrong to make the suggestion.
Just look at that picture and imagine where that finger has been!
Digital. Well it ain’t ever been in a dyke I’m sure!
Well I’ve pondered that one Ivor, spoken to a few close acquaintances of the Dark Baron and can confirm that during one memorable orgy It has been in one dyke whilst at the same time another has gone around behind, so to speak and given him a damn good rogering with the old ‘Realistic’ silicone strap on dong.
Presumably a long one, hence the shite that comes out of his mouth.
Greg ?
I’d rather not, thank you. Get out the Dettol.
Now we know how Mandleson paid off his mortgage so quickly!!!
Does he have oil fired central heating?
Well, not him himself, but his house?
“In this vein I welcome the offer of your officials to continue talking to the Libyans about any matters in respect of this issue.
Officials in Whitehall remain in close contact with your lead officials and I remain committed to working closely with you, providing support where necessary.”
From Straw’s letter to Salmond dated 21 November 2008.
Translated as:
I suggest you string the Libyans along for a few months, but make sure you let Megrahi go before he dies. Our Whitehall spin merchants will create a conducive climate of opinion and we’ll provide you with political cover if necessary.
I’m almost expecting Scooby Doo and the gang to unmask the villain to reveal Mandelson and the ‘would have gotten away with it it wasn’t for you offensive, pesky kids’ line.
Revelations and more. Shr’aggy Doo?
Mandelson will have to go eventually….and now would be a good time. He’s the ‘liar in reserve’ to bliar who fooled us all for years. I wonder if they have a third choice consumate liar they could produce cos let’s face it, Gay Gordon can’t even speak, let alone lie convincingly.
“Rooby roooooo”
Prescott ate all the scooby snacks
If scooby waits he could have them back.
Ah! so it is true, you can fool enough of the people enough of the time. They didn’t fool everyone though mate, so please dont say “fooled us all”.
No offence I hope sir. Please keep posting!
I would have liked to see the replies.
I also noticed the dates of the letters from Lord Falconer and Jack Straw, respectively. This was being brokered a long time ago.
So there are a few letters. Written stuff in Whitehall is only to paper the files, advance personal careers, and provide fodder for subsequent enquiries/whitewashes. What about the phone calls, and un-minuted face-to-face meetings? All this proves nothing.
What it does indicate, however, is that the civil service has seriously lost its grip.
Update: here we go. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6816943.ece
Much as I’d like to see Mandelson, Straw, et al caught masterminding some kind of conspiracy, I really don’t believe that’s what’s happened here, for 2 reasons.
1. They don’t have the wit to run a good conspiracy
2. Even if they did, no-one has come up with an even remotely satisfactory explanation of how they got the SNP to join in the conspiracy. Remember that New Labour and the SNP aren’t exactly best mates.
….but they are all Scots, and they look after their own. As the saying goes “honour amongst thieves”?!
‘They’ don’t come up with or ‘run’ the ‘conspiracies’ DisgustedofMitcham2….’they’ just perform in front of the camera for the real perps behind the cameras.
There’s only one thing you should remember regarding the word Scottish – that’s ‘rite’…you know what I mean ;)
Disguised of Micthem2. I can think of a motif: You can keep your North Sea oil all to your selves ‘cos by agreeing to this PTA we don’t need it. We can drill cheaper on land in Libra.
The old cliche “follow the money” rings true. But we don’t do bungs, do we?
…and Charlie Falconer has gone to the Lords, so his future is rosy.
Is there no end to the fucking spin and shit this government will waste our taxes on. Look at this latest little pile of crap I found:
http://frontlinebloggers.blogspot.com/
So we cannot afford Helicopters but we can pay for some snot nosed bunch of Labour supporting twots to sit “Twattering” and “Blogging” from the frontline.
ELECTION NOW! YOU C*NTS! WE ARE GOING TO VOTE YOU BACK TO THE STONE AGE!
The area we should all be concentrating on is the Blair meeting with Gadaffi.
No minutes taken apparantly…very safe aint it!!
We should be demanding that the minutes, which must have been taken, are released!
I feel sure there will have been a hand written note from Bliar to mandy about the meeting, given that mandy was cultivating the Libyan leader’s son for the same reasons that Bliar was courting ghadafi and at the same time that the Justice Ministry was dealing with Scotland.
What a very shady world our labour conmen have come to inhabit. As they now face political annihilation and then eventually old age and exposure they need to be considering the epitaphs that they will be remembered by. It sure won’t be ‘rest in peace’ or ‘lies a man who served his country’.
Yes indeed. It’s almost as bad as Thatcher isn’t it? I mean mummy, Mark, the Congo, UAE, “it’s their turn to pay” and so on. I wonder how that will be remembered? Oh it won’t will it, because it does not fit in with your one-eyed and bigoted agenda. Oh yes, and a pointless war too, in the South Atlantic, in a place few had heard of. Will that be rest in peace?
O/T Our energy will be cut by 2017.
Labour have been soooo busy over the last 12 years, that they didn’t have time to rectify this.
Really good planning, that.
60% of Britain will suffer power cuts because labour have failed to make provision for more energy producing industries in order to cover the expected shortfall in energy production.
Ed Miliband contended in one of his wordy little plans that the shortfall would be filled by windpower and then found that it wouldn’t.
So, as is the way with this dishonest government, rather than come out in the open and say so, he hid it away in the small print and hoped nobody would notice.
He knows they’re going to be out of power next year so expected they could then blame labour’s lack of planning onto the tories.
They are pinning their hopes on ditching all those juicy old light bulbs!
Nothing wrong with the low energy light bulbs, except they aren’t bright enough.
Bit like our government.
Leading to a severe ‘dimming down’ of Britain
another load of green bollox, these low energy useless things ALL contain enough mercury to result in a danrerous contamination if broken including a risk to the health of every householder.
If broken onto a carpet it is almost impossible to safely remove using common household tools like a broom or a vacuum cleaner, all these would do is to spread it around into smaller and smaller droplets – making it so much easier to ingest, especially for the bottom feeders like small children and pets.
Think about how many millions of these bomblets are dropped and broken every day across the country – or broken in a waste bin – eventually ending up in a landfill or beneath the ocean ? This concept is another badly thought through set of “instructions for the common man” that is going to result in some serious blow-backs, but of course, that is in the future and a problem for future folks to worry about.
Fond memories of prep done at school desks in the corridors under emergency lighting in autumn 1978 in the power cuts of the Winter of Labour’s Triumph. Same again in ten years but at least next time we’ll all have energy saving lightbulbs instead of normal ones. That’s progress for you.
And low energy bulbs don’t last long so you need to buy more so they need to make more needing more resources causing more consumption and pollutionizing. They’re rubbish and I’ve had to go to the trouble of fitting 150w halogens instead.
New light bulbs developed at Cambridge may save 15% of GB’s energy consumption…
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?id=385782
Only 45% more savings to find then. Surely if they cut all the hot air out of parliament we’d be in the clear.
A tip: Buy a solar panel to charge the battery on your diesel generator. It’s much more environmentally friendly I find.
..but they are so expensive. It would take years to claw back the money spent.
Gaddafi must feel that he demeans himself by dealing with these little slimy craetures.
Would that be Liebore or the blokes in tartan skirts?
surely one of the same ….
It will be a good day when we can bury Mr Al Megrahi.
I fucking dread to think where the wagging finger of little Lord Fondleboy has been.
If I was forced to shake his hand it would be a case of squirting a full bottle of Cillit bang over his hands then me wearing rubber gloves, then nipping over to Saudi Arabia and coughing the job to a long history of theft .
Mandelson has a bit of the Charles Hawtrey about him
In him…surely!
There’s something of the night about him
If only Mandybum was that harmless!
I thought he played the part of the child catcher character in the movie chitty chitty bang bang very well actually?…..oh It wasn’t him sfter all?…..Damn!
The letters from Salmond to Bliar in this pdf make very interesting reading. All of these cnuts are in it up to their necks.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/925/0085873.pdf
All of the Scottish Gov correspondence can be found here.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Justice/legal/lockerbie/correspondence
Funny how the slimey little Bilderbugger invitee goes off to his Bilderbugger Boss’s place in Corfu, all the above Gadaffi deals are done AND they still get time for this little gem:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6814923.ece
Exactly WHAT are we paying Road Tax for? Any opportunity to hammer the motorist.
Now we know what Mandleson was doing on Deripaska’s yacht. This bloody well beggars belief.
George Osbourne was there any totty on the yaught, Yuaght. Yot?
yacht.
yachet?
These guys don’t need totty on the yotty, it’s the smell of male flesh that excites!
Something of the night about him
You’re not saying he’s into cat burglary??
He certainly likes to check out the cat flap
Burgerf me I’fd bethter sthsplit here quithf
I see Gaddafi has written a blank cheque to a British PR outfit Grey to improve their image
http://www.grey.com/ – can’t seem to see Great Socialist People’s Libyan Republic listed as one of their customers.
Wonder why that is?
Talking of oil I’m immensely proud that the morons in UK accept the most expensive fuel in Europe without rioting or lynching the pols and bankers:
German government rejects proposal to increase ecology tax on fuel due to overstretch of taxpayer and damage to prospect of recovery:
http://finanzen.freenet.de/nachrichten/union-spd-und-fdp-gegen-oekosteuererhoehung_903810_662428.html
UK ist gefickt.
Of course we shouldn’t forget that peter brown, one of mandy’s closest friends, is opening a branch of his PR company BLJ in Tripoli Libya.
The company , according to the Daily Mail, has a favoured position with the regime there.
As someone said earlier you only have to folow the money ………….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209939/Peter-Mandelson-s-PR-friend-opens-office-Libya.html
If there’s any dirt to be dished, you can bet Mandleson will be in the thick of it.
That man really needs to be pulled down a few pegs.
what is BLJ acronym for?
Brown Lloyd James .
I hope Guido will be looking at their activities in the months ahead. They are also involved in PR in Iraq.
Funny how they are showing up everywhere that the British Govt has an influence.
Mandy me old son, its YOU who is offensive together with Gay Gordon, Millipede and the rest of the scum in the Labour Camp!
Look at the dirt in here, Oooooo catch if you can. Labour is shit!
You have more chance of finding out what really happened to Dr David Kelly than getting to the bottom of this crap.This Govt have lied almost every time they have opened their great big gobs, and thats lots !
Mandy, you’re a duplicitous fucking сunt.
Is that offensive enough for you, you tart?
The jew looks like he’s just been buggered by a dog.
Has anyone ever in the entire history of the universe ever met a jew that told the truth?
I glad that dirty little lying jew, Jesus, was nailed to a tree. Lying scum jew.
Hello labour troll – you’ve taken a wrong turn in the road – you should have gone left rather than right at that last junction. Then it would have taken you home to LabourList.
Hello, Dolly. Still trying to get Guido in the shit, eh?
Try and be a better left wing sock puppet.
Although I suppose you are being true to the most left-wing of organisations, namely the National Socialists.
It was the left wing Government that didn’t want Megrahi to die in prison according to the left wing paper guardian in the last half hour may I remind you.
Very low quality trolling
Must try harder
It’s hardly conclusive judging by the written correspondence alone.
We all know these dodgy scumbags use secure line, un-recorded phones.
It’s a diversion.
The real issue was the deal for Magrahi to drop his appeal. The consequences of him being found innocent and the actual things the state did, such as bribing witnesses is the real cover up
Nick
Well Magrahi has spoken out since his release and I can’t see him telling falsies with the risk of upsetting his family further. People at near death have nothing to gain by lying I wouldn’t have thought? Maybe we will get the truth.
The truth about megrahi is one thing. The truth about our government’s actions is another.
The question that I find stands out, is why, if blair, mandy and gordon wanted him released didn’t they just say so and allow a heated debate before the decision was taken.? Because they have ended up with a heated debate anyway.
Open question to the British public – Should we release Megrahi (who may or may not be innocent), release means £13billion oil deal plus other commercial spin-offs? At least that would have been up-front and honest.
Now, because of their ducking and diving, they have ended up being shown to have been completely dishonest and manipulative and their every word is being weighed.
They didn’t want a diplomatic embarressment if he died in prison http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/01/gordon-brown-lockerbie-megrahi-libya
306 – diplomatic embarrassment? Nope. They didn’t want their commercial opportunities screwed up!!!!
Backhanders anyone? I wonder who’ll be paying their mortgage off next?
I find the “no appeal” story quite interesting, and before his actual release I heard someone describing McGrachy as “not guilty – OF THAT”.
His wife and family might not get his civil servant’s pension if he rocks the boat, so he won’t be revealing any inconvenient details.
I find an extremely sinister thread in all this now.
Here is a note from the US which has a ‘gagging for it desire’ for as much intrusion as they can get , whereas this little comment buried in the pastry of a rather pudgy pudding seems to suggest that not only were the ‘Scotia Nostra’ in for a chunk of Arabic ‘goodwill’, but one of the names – by coincidence – also appears on both the delegates’ list as well as one of the letters published by Jack Straw.
Where was Mandelson in March, and was Brown aware of the consequences at that time?
02/03/09 – does that mean the 2nd March or 3rd February ?
No matter – well found Scrobs!!
“The (Libyan delegation) visit comes in response to an invitation received from the Secretary from Scotland in order to lay the groundwork for strengthening relations and cooperation and to link the development of investment between the two countries.”
So gordon, mandy and bliar have sold their honour to bring Libya from the dark ages into the UK’s ‘golden age of democracy.’
So how has Libya celebrated it’s 40 years of revolution?
Top billing of guests includes Robert Mugabe. Europe’s most notable attendees, apart from one uncomfortable english diplomat, who has not been named, were heads of fashion houses and luxury goods shops.
And the centre piece of the event was a giant screen showing gory pictures of the hangings of the men ghadafi has killed during his reign.
I think this will make a very suitable retirement home for the likes of brown and mandy.
Oh, if only, Nell, if only.
Comment on Daily Mail pages
Just a quick point,as a pensioner this devious man bought probably many millions of votes like mine when he callously announced before the last election that all pensioners would get £200 towards their council tax but did not say that it was a one off payment,how unkind but typical of this useless spiteful shower
- T.J.B, REDDITCH, 1/9/2009 15:32
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210381/Brown-backs-curb-bank-bonuses.html#ixzz0Pt3ibuUP
If you remember -Blair and Brown did a similar exercise during the 2005 election campaign when it was feared that closure of Rover would cost them several marginals in the West Midlands and so paid a visit promising government aid and that jobs would be saved – Rover is now closed.
Moral of the story – believe nothing this pack of liars tells you and certainly voters in the West Midlands won’t again in a hurry
£4 a week for a vote? stupid old git
Just ask your children (well demand) 4 quid a week.
It’ll be better for you, and them.
what mirth……
uk unelected govt. (mainly) doing dodgy deals with unelected nutter gaddafi
and the saints in the land of milk and honey are upset…..(never mind the millions killed by the cia worldwide or the iraqis afghanis etc)
the jocks of jockland in a tiz with the gay scottish.commie/judeo kabal in westminster……….
all brave honourable men……..not
Where can I get my barrel of free oil?
No need to read between the lines. There is a paper trail.
- Blair brokered the BP oil deal in March 2007.
- Blair signed the MOU on prisoner transfer in May 2007.
- Lord Falconer assured the Scottish Government in July 2007 that any prisoner transfer or exchange would not include anyone convicted of the Lockerbie crime.
- Jack Straw reversed this position in December 2007.
- The BP oil deal was ratified by Libya in December 2007.
The faux-WMD disarmament was announced in 2003, by the way!
http://jess-the-dog.blogspot.com/2009/09/weapons-of-mass-distraction.html
Thank you for the clear summery and timetable. The recent silence and obsfucations are the real damaging part
Bliar was a busy little chap in the final days of his premiership, was n’t he ?
hang the fucker and the hag of a wife he has then mandy and balls hoons
But where’s that finger been?
Oooohhhh Ducky!!!
Deep in Gorgon’s Mucky Muckell perhaps?
Labour have now tainted just about everything in this country. Had to laugh when I saw this headline
Met Office claims ‘barbecue summer’ prediction was right on temperature… just not the amount of rain
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210441/Met-Office-says-barbecue-summer-prediction-got-temperature-right–just-rain.html#ixzz0PtE9LgRO
The amount of down arrows were very suspect!
Probably got confused between Fahrenheit and Celsius
Mr Fawkes do have “Gordon is a moron ” in a mens size and not pink ?
the nu labour experiment has to be pushed through quickly before its too late
Lesbian women undergoing fertility treatment will be able to name female partners as a ’second parent’ on their children’s birth certificates under controversial changes to be implemented next week.
Ministers are pushing ahead with new regulations despite criticism that they represent another blow to traditional family values.
The Government is also removing the need
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209829/Lesbian-birth-rights-law-change-let-partners-parents-childrens-birth-certificates.html#ixzz0PtFqbOUq
Sir this will be defeted in the Lords
I can’t see the problem myself. It’s much better to sort these things out before they happen (i.e. if the birth mother dies).
These sort of contract templates mean less state involvement, not more.
(in different accents)
It was’nae our fult ye un’stan!
Bliar adds: “Look! – it wasn’t their fault! Like me, they are spotless. By the way, did I tell you I’m saved “
What will mandy’s epitaph be
” this man can spin lies more intricate than a spider’s web”
The queen is dead, long live the queen.
The soil here is contaminated. Don’t dig for 1000 years
‘The sod here is contaminated. Don’t poke for a 1000 years’
I’d like my epitaph to read, ‘He was close to brown all his adult life’
cha-cha-cha
Nice work, Guido.
What a thoroughly repulsive little fairy Mandelson is: http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/2009-new-labour-lord-peter-mandleson/
I’m not that saintly !
We have lost our morals , Our dignty and our self respect .
I ask Her Majesty The Queen to lock the goverment in the tower and set the people free .
it all started in America
If you mean send them to Gitmo then The Mike Hunt household agrees
No, no. It all started in Gordon’s FSA; NOT in the USA.
Well it started in Basel, but the FSA made the U.K. best placed to have a disaster.
Mr Fawkes
Over the last few weeks i have tried a few polictal blogs , The most unhelpful thing was that in Mr Dale and Labourlist it takes about 30mins to have a post accepted .
I belive this stiffles debate , However may i say that your blog satifies that and that you welcome all views , this Sir is the best way of debate , I also find the tone and content refreshing and unspun .
keep up the good work
Bloody Hell.
Gordon Brown is really, really faecally challenged in the Megrahi fiasco. Could someone, please, let us know what on Earth goes on in the howling wilderness that sits between Mr Brown’s ears? Gordon Brown is Richard Nixon. How long can he last, now?
Sir typo sixth word in
I did not have my glasses on when I typed it. African Grey Parrot who sits on my shoulder in the evenings thinks it great fun to pull them off and chew them!
Thanks for that. I’ll sort the typo out. Just checked. Not sure it’s a typo, however??
Richard Nixon had a brain.
But Charlie, if Nixon had used his brain, I wonder how well he’d have done?
My aunt met Richard Nixon when hew was president. She was a little Brummie woman living in Flint, Michigan, who headed a delegation of poor people (mostly black) to Washington. She and a couple of the others met Richard Nixon. And although they were given the money they asked for, she told us that she could never take to him as he seemed untrustworthy.
Oh happy days (oh happy days )
Oh happy days (ooohhhh happy dayze)
As I recall, the next line is:
“When Jesus washed, he washed my sins away”
Another Scottish bigwig had a different take on the subject:
Macbeth:
Whence is that knocking?
How is’t with me, when every noise appalls me?
What hands are here? Hah! They pluck out mine eyes.
Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this blood
Clean from my hand? No; this my hand will rather
The multitudinous seas incarnadine,
Making the green one red.
To see your hands awash with guilt you’d have to have a conscience, as Macbeth did.
The Labour Party was send by God himself for our benefit so I can’t see them doing anything wrong or underhanded. To suggest such thing is deeply offensive.
Really.
Dear Myster Guido. I come from loapland and did not speak english I could not read or write but my friend she say to go to your bog which I did and now I am acting like a proper citizen and have learnt many words for my vocabulary from reading the wall in front of my computer. I am very cripple and thank you for me being a Hoon to your kind posters. I never forget their kind words for me.
Tat is dressed up in his monkey suit again.
Nope. Not tat.
Labour troll TWatson or bob’ainbustinagut’.
No you’re right nell. At this time of night Tat’s got his laminator in overdrive, preparing his latest download of pics for tonights undercover activities.
What a guy.
Sorry O/T I must just post this link.
Tony, in a major speech to the catholic church has said ” short term material gain is a threat to human identity”
Tony was speaking on a stopover before he was photographed on the five decked luxury yacht owned by a billionaire and moored near the Sardinia playground of the Italian PM.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/28/tony-blair-catholics-conference-italy
nell, have a look at the previous post. Guido has already covered it. Doh!
Lay off the sauce luv a?
Duplomatic even your name is boring.
Other nights , Labour trolls have been more inventive.
So what was it, a Merlot or a Cabernet?
I think I’m right in saying that tony and mandy don’t drink anything as common as red wine.
I suspect their favoured tipple is ‘Bollinger’ or something even more expensive.
Let them eat cake eh??
Our lads in Afghanistan— what are you drinking?
Neither – water
” short term material gain is a threat to human identity” but long term material gain is Nulabour`s inhumane identity,
Does he believe his own bollocks or what?
Hypocrisy; it’s in Labour’s D-N-A.
Thanks for owning up to the post at 10.26.
BTW, nell called you a,”Labour troll TWatson or bob’ainbustinagut’.”
I wouldn’t stand for that my friend.
I may be short and hairy with long hippy hair but I’m not Labour cave man
In his report on the release of the Lockerbie Bomber letters earlier today, the FOX NEWS British representative directly called Gordon Brown a “liar” straight to screen. Twice. Would that we got such objective reporting on the beeb….
Can anybody locate the clip?
SatNav- It could cost Brown the next election if it went vitriol on youtube!
Could ??
Gordon has put the populist issue of a cap on bankers bonuses at the top of his political agenda.
Oh! Wait a Minute! He says he can’t do it. It has to be part of an international agreement.
More Lies. More Posturing. Well Done Gordon!
You fraud. We aren’t fooled!!!!
You’ve certainly been fooled by Cameron.
What a Labour troll you are!! Have you just come back from Libya?? What a champagne knees up with Mugabe that was!!!!
Cameron’s a lovely chap, never says boo to a goose and never goes too fast on his windpowered-bicycle. Good marks this year in PR studies. Though there were some troubling noises about plagiarism and cheating because of his worrying obsession with the Blair boy.
Might even be head prefect next year.
I regret to say she has.
Ha ha ha. I’m still here! Have you read my book on courage? It was based on my life. Though cowards sneer,and traitors smear,i’ll keep the Brown flag flying here. Did you know i abolished tory boom and bust? I did not have sexual relations with that arab. Arise Sir Edward Kennedy. Get me Andy Murray on the phone,i want to wish him luck,copy to all MSM. What’s a tasty little bogie like you doing on your own? I take full responsibility for the actions of Mr Bush,that’s why the person responsible was sacked. I’ve got a willy. I call it little peter. Bob Ainsworth has my wholehearted support until tomorrow,when he will throw himself on Mr Gaddaffi,in a selfless act of promotion to the other place. I don’t want Salmond to die in Britain,get him a chinook from from the motor pool. Who is Bill Rammel? I’ve never met him. Can i be Prime Minister again tomorrow?
Bill Rammell indeed . Interesting man.
One of bob’aintbustinagut’s four henchmen.
Think he’s featured on here quite heavily tonight.
The sad thing is, that this is how the man really acts
All this just goes to show what a crooked gang of politicians we`ve got. This predictable batch of lies sums up the whole situation. We are in the grips of a dishonest left-wing bureaucracy which perpetrates this nonsense in its own interests of self-preservation and empire building. The Tories are committed to sustaining and bolstering this corrupt system and are terrified of stepping out of line despite the fact that the clear majority is yearning for radical change. In the meantime Dave assures us that the NHS is the envy of the world! And Gordon tells us he has saved the world! And Milliband tells us that Gadaffii is marvellous and a staunch friend of the West! I think the whole lot of them must be besotted by Julie Kirkbride.
Hail the Revolution!
We are not stupid you traitors. Next year the nation is ours.
Let us hope so but it is optimistic.
It is all you neo-fascists who need eliminating. Dave and Gordon are both simply simply wonderful people. I will fight for them, and me, to the bitter end. You silly types who keep saying that I did not vote for Dave as leader should remember that everyone is entitled to change their minds. Dave has promised me that I will get a VERY important job. Principles and integrity do still count, you ignorant snivellers.
I think this woman should be locked in a cell and the key thrown away.
Yeah Julie. Tell us why James T left you at the alter and buggered off in search of short skirted bridge babes, eh?
She should be in a cell but nobody wants to take action against her despite the clear legal evidence. She is still as arrogant as ever and Cameron appears to be protecting her. She boasts that she has got away with everything. What a bizrre situation – does anyone care?
She should be locked in a cell and the key should be thrown away. So should Gordon Brown.
Exactly. Perhaps they could share a cell to cut down on public expenses.
I find Mandleson and the fact that he has been disgraced twice before for acts of dishonesty and yet is now in a senior position in Government whilst non elected fucking offensive since you ask !!!!
Yeah. And they wonder why the public have no respect for them anymore!
I gotta say again; where is Her Majesty in all this? Not a peep from HMG. It’s getting a little unnearving this Royal silence, pardon me.
Gordon Brown should be in a cell as well.
A padded one I hope!
Yes. We care. Boy I hope we get the Government the vast majority of decent, patriotic people deserve next year. We care alright.
I`m pleased to hear it. I care too but cynicism is inevitable in a political climate of left-wing concensus which dominates all major political parties.
What nonsense! If all these closet patriots did care Julie Kirkbride WOULD be in a cell, along with a lot of others!
Completely off topic sorry but there’s breaking news on Sky that Sky News has invited all 3 main party leaders to take part in televised leaders’ debate and that Cameron has accepted!
The fool!
Shall we run a sweepstake on what gorgons excuse for bottling the debate will be?
I’ll go 10p, on him suddenly being rushed to hospital with a bad case of indigestion.
Just what I thought… can’t “empty chair” an ill person that promised to come, can you? (yes)
12.5p on spleen explosion.
Good on the man
Watching that’ll be like being stuck in Hell’s slow elevator for all eternity, listening to The Girl From Ipanema played over, and over, and over….
Good. It will show Gordon up for the idiot he is. He can’t think on his feet, he has to have it all scripted.
Well said Chaim, but she will not `tell` anyone, they will have to be `told`.
What an evil bitch this woman is!
Which woman are we talking about here? It seems to me there could be several candidates.
Its all here folks….
Two words. Exxon and Chevron.
Look em up if you think this is just a UK Oil and Gas grab.
The US are delighted to be courting Gadaffi’s resources again whatever the public bluster for the naive.
Wayne Madsen? Giant Hamster in a suit!
John McCain was sucking up to Gadaffi mere weeks ago
You think it was to get an inside line on Gadaffi’s wacky clothing ?
Or is all this about Brown and Manelson and Prince Andrew lobbying for Oil just a loony conspiracy theory ?
numbskull
Browns banksters bounus contenmplation (BBBC) is a little more useless than the headline suggests .
1 no cap on bounuses
2 bounuses can be clawed back if bank fails .
So its basically a dont screww up lads policy or i will withdraw your bounuses
So we could then just get Fred mk2 who will do it for just the salary ??
Tough on wealth and tough on the causes of wealth .
But let us suspend this disbelief at our Labour goverment , we should forget that most of them are confirmed marxists or left wing student radicals , this Nu labour of suites and yatchs , smear and spin , lies and deception , a goverment hanging on by its finger nails , as they avoid the rage in there voters and constituancies .
CW thinks the letters release is a bit of govt spin , as it seems now Alex Salmond doesnt have a view either , curiouser and curiouser .
I had thought Cameron had been a bit light , but on reflection he was right to highlight this , non view business as being of low standards , Blair brought in the presidential style of UK politics wich seems to have metamorphosised into presbyterian style of goverment . Gordon took to the media podium like a man unafraid of events , now we have heard nothing from him for 2 months , if parliament had been sitting matters would be very different .
Is it a lame duck or just ducking lamely ?? getting on with job does require the Pm to have a view I think on such a change in the treatment of mass murderers that have been tried in court . It does smack a little of the Great leader mentality , deciding fates as he samples yet another quails egg , or even curates egg .
The more he invents these charactures , the more you wonder if he is unable to find the one that has PM on it , “help ime in the lavvie” may court a little sympathy but it seems to be habit now , you get this impression that further communiquies will be written onto sheets of andrex and slipped quietly under the lavvie door at the appointed times to the press officer , so far the thoughts of great chairman brown , have dried up i wonder if hes run out of roll .
Scenario A –
Straw resigns.
Brown’s position becomes untenable. He resigns.
Mandelson takes over as PM.
Mandelson wins general election.
Realistic? Could Mandelson ever get the Labour TU vote? He started off as a trade unionist and his grandfather was a famous Trade Unionist was he not? Don’t put it past him.
Mandelson is an arse bandit, the UK wont knowingly elect one and even if he married Jordan we would still know He would prefer Peter Andre and some KY.
British Government needs British Bulldogs not foreign poodles.
What’s the problem here?
We all know these Labour politicaians are liars. You always seem so surprised when the next pack of lies spews from these self serving scum. Clogs to clogs, that’s the way to keep your sense of perspective. It’s a one generation wonder. Always easier to make than keep – ask any one who has inherited wealth. They spend everyday making sure their wealth isn’t spunked away. So you Labour luvvy diehard lying thieves, you are just maggots.
Now, what is so wrong with Libya and their Mad Dog Leader? OK so they hae no human rights etc but this is Africa. Plus ca change. Seems to me our Colonel has something we need and want. Seems to me we have things he needs and wants. So let’s trade. Great Britian is a trading nation. We’re not like some agricultural peasant society you find in Europe. We’ve been there and done that.
If we don’t get into Libya the Chinese will.
I’d sooner deal with Mad Dog than a Mao lookalike.
Can’t we do some prisoner exchange deal with Colonel Sanders?
I thought that the only deal McBroon will make is with Colonel Bogey.
I have just watched Yvette Cooper on Sky news blaming the Tories for the long term unemployed and thats why they are now taking action (after 12 years) to do somethingabout it. She also blamed them for just about everything else as well.
They really are total utter devious lying bunch of Hoons. When after this long in power they still blame others they know there time is up.
It’s wearing very thin after 12 years. They can’t just own up and take responsibility for anything.
Yvette’s interview just shows how desperate this lot are if all they can do is blame a government who hasn’t been in power for 12 years. I’d love to see them all unemployed.
Roll on the election.
They will probably try to blame the Tories for not ordering enough power stations.
Don’t give them ideas. No doubt somebody is already looking up the stats on this one to blame them for this shortfall.
Agree, Agree, Agree on your three points, well said.
I didn’t think we had any long-term unemployed. i thought they were all disabled.
In regard to the Sky leaders debate it is stated that if any of the other leaders decline the invitation (Cameron accepted right away) they will be represented by an empty chair.
Wil there be a pack of lard (HIGNFY) where Broone would have sat similar to Hattersley as there is no way this guy is going to willingly appear and if he does wait for some emergency to prevent him? (my guess will be security concerns).
Has there ever been a fatter Prime Minister(Elected or Unelected) than
McSnottgobbler in British political history?
Apologies all.
I should have made the previous post a TRIPLE question.
In addition to McMental was. [a]. JacquiFive Bellies the fattest Home(Two)
Secretary ever and [b] Is Sarah McMental the fattest Prime Ministers wife
ever?
Guido,
The Lord of Darkness is gagging to be PM, he wants it, the precious, he is consumed by its power and completeness.
The dreaming path to the precious is fickle and stony.
Desperation and desire are reckless minions, dangerous bedfellows.
The precious makes fools of those that desire it most; its power diminishes flickers and wanes within their grasp.
Sods law!
OK, I’m having second thoughts now about my earlier post (#172). I’ve just heard David Miliband on Today, and the way he went to such great lengths to avoid giving any straight answer to any of Evan’s questions makes me think he must have something to hide.
So I’m now more inclined to believe that something fishy has been going on. However, I still find it hard to believe that New Labour and the SNP could somehow be in it together.
What plausible scenarios are there involving some skullduggery on the part of the government that doesn’t require me to believe that an outbreak of trust has suddenly engulfed Labour-SNP relations?
I listened to Miliband too —– he was trying to say that “Mr Brown does not want the prisoner to die in jail…..” is exactly the same as saying “We would not stand in the way if Scotland wanted to release him…..”
I keep saying it – this NuLabour bunch just don’t care what damage they do to our democratic system. They are incapable – it seems – of telling the truth, and are making the British population despair of our politicians. Couple that with the news yesterday that we can expect power cuts in a few year……… and we are rapidly becoming a third world nation.
It’s just a feeble excuse, and they know we know it. Clandestine meetings and telephone conversations – nothing on paper, which is why the letters didn’t really say a great deal. No replies to Falconer’s and Straw’s letters were published either, which makes me think they contained information which government would rather we didn’t know about.
As for the power, or lack of it, we will become a third world nation under their watch. They have nobody else to blame but themselves.
Shades of the 70’s under a Labour government.
Unlike most of the population the Westminster bubble is oblivious to the obvious, reality is a notion, something that always happens to somebody else and does not apply to them.
Miliband is your typical tart politician, periodically in a self-induced shit storm kafuffle, his G-string of sincerity slips to reveal he has no balls whatsoever.
There are many like him at Westminster.
Could it be that the oil was on its way to be refined in Grangemouth, which recently has had predatory advances from chinese investors?
“It’s not only completely wrong to make such a suggestion it’s also quite offensive”.
But might it also be completely accurate?
They’ve clearly published the letters in order to bore everyone into submission
Labour are really in the shit (again) over this one. Nobody believes a single word they say. Straw looked like a frightened man in his interviews. Must be shitting himself as his carefully constructed political career goes up the Swanee.
So now we have Mandelson lying, Cameron lying (his peers writing to McCaskill pleading for release) and Salmond lying (because primitive instinct is hard to overcome). At least we can rely on good old George Osborne to be too stupid to recognise a lie.
They are all pissing in the same pot the lying bastards. I will vote for Nick Griffins party. If they are facists at least they dont pretend to be socialist or tories or mincing fucking liberals. Most of what they say makes sense it isn’t the mealy mouthed waffle we have had for the last 40 years. Bring him on!
nurse ratched, I have found another spastic, please take him to the treatment room.
we did not defeat hitler to then vote fascists into parliament you cretin.
Nick Griffins mob are certainly into mincing. I believe Martin Webster thought Dick Sniffin a ‘very nice boy’ and, as the blessed Bruno has said – have you ever met a straight skinhead?
ah bless! Another social inadequate who lives with his mother and thinks granny bashing makes him hard.
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Listen tat I doubt you were even alive when Hitler was about, he not only made the trains run on time but he allso cleared all the forigners out of Germany. We cant controll them coming in and as for the trains you couldn’t make it up. Get real and stop falling for all this wishy washy liberal claptrap this country has and is being given away by fucking do-gooders